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The Descendants of John Henry Leer and Mary Ann Box

Journal by quirk_cantwell

As accurate as I can find. Would love to make contact with other descendants and share info. or to correct any mistakes.

John Henry Leer was born 26/5/1804. He was the son of William Richard Leer and Charlotte Sutton who married in 1804 Rotherhithe, London. John Henry Leer married Mary Ann Box c 1826.


1.Sarah Mary Anne Leer 19/8/1827 St Mary's Lambeth/Newington.
Married DecQ 1851 Newington Charles Cornelius Klumper. She died
1899 Islington.
1. Charles John Klumper SeptQ 1855 Strand, London married JunQ 1874 to Elizabeth Easton
2. Dirk (Dick) Frederick klumper born 27/12/1857 bapt 24/1/1858
St Olave, Southwark, Surrey married Emma Oakes MarQ 1886 Poplar, London.
3. Henry Cornelius Klumper MarQ 1860 Bermondsey married Rosina
Gibbs DecQ 1883.
4. Mary Anne Klumper DecQ 1869 Poplar may have married DecQ 1896 Poplar
5. Alice Klumper DecQ 1869 Poplar

2.John Henry Leer c 1829 married Eliza Jane Full 2/10/1855 Plymouth. He died 1864-1868.
1.John Henry Leer c 1858 Aldershot, Hampshire
2.Grace Sophia Leer bapt 13/3/1859 at St Bartholemew,
Salford, Lancashire m Edward Wall JunQ 1876 Plymouth
3.William James Leer bapt 27/11/1864 Kingston, Ontario,
Upper Canada m Annie Dooley 28/9/1892 Church Hill, Sydney

3.Charlotte Jane Leer 1831 James St, Lambeth. She was bapt 27/3/1831 St Mary's Lambeth and married 7/1/1854 St Giles, Camberwell to John Thomas Boyce Miles. She died DecQ 1872 Lambeth.
1. Charlotte rebecca Miles b 8/2/1855 bapt 6/4/1855 All hallows the Less, London. She died SeptQ 1858 Newington.
2. Edwin Miles b SeptQ 1860 Newington.
3. Annie Miles b MarQ 1862 Newington
4. Louise Miles b MarQ 1869 Newington.

4.William Richard Leer 4/6/1834 St Mary's Newington may have married Sarah William 22/6/1862 St Mary's Lambeth and/or Ellen Brennan 7/9/1869 in Bunbury,WA. He died 1900 Parramatta.
1. Mary Ann Leer c 1871 Albany WA died 6 days old.
2. ? John Leer c 1872
3. Margaret Alice Leer c 1872 Albany WA married William Hurditch
1896 Sydney.
4. Mary Ann Leer c 1875 Wallsend. Died 1923 Auburn Dist.
5. ? Francis Leer c 1878 (? England)
6. William Richard Leer c 1879 Redfern
7. Ellen Leer c 1882 Redfern.
8. Dorcas E Leer c 1885 Sydney. Died 1886 Waterloo
9. John H Leer c 1890 Sydney (mother Margaret WA)

5.James Joseph Leer c MarQ 1838 St Mary?s Newington
Married Sarah Crabb JunQ 1858 St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey.
Sarah Leer nee Crabb died DecQ 1871 Poplar aged 41
1. Sarah Ann Leer JunQ 1859 Southwark dist
2. Thomas (James?) Joseph Crabb Leer c JunQ 1861 St George
Southwark, Surrey m Alice Maud Scaysbrook
3. John William Leer c SeptQ 1863 Newington m Jane Stanbridge
4. George Frederick Leer c DecQ 1865 Lambeth m Annie Maria Blackley
5. Charlotte Ruth Leer c DecQ 1867 Lambeth.May have married Geoge Bowers. She died Vic, Aust
6. Walter Thomas Leer c JunQ 1870 St Saviour, London, Surrey. May have immigrated to USA

6.Elizabeth Leer born and died c 1840

7.Fanney Leer c 1842 Walworth m James Holmes SeptQ 1860.
1.James Holmes c 1862 m DecQ 1885 Lambeth Clara Matilda Palmer
Son George James Holmes c 1886 Lambeth m 4/12/1915
Tufnell Park Ethel Minnie Hoare. Son Ronald George born
JunQ 1919 Islington
2.George Holmes c 1873 Lambeth.
3.Louise Charlotte Holmes b DecQ 1875 Lambeth
Fanney died 1879 DecQ Lambeth aged 37.

8.George Leer c 1845 Southwark/Lambeth m Charlotte
Preston JunQ 1867 Newington, Lambeth. He died 1908 NZ
1. Charlotte Annie Preston Leer 19/2/1871 St John Walworth,
Southwark, London m David Caskey 1894 Sydney.
2. George Henry Leer c 1873 Poplar m Fanny E Fowler 1894 Balmain Sth
3. Fanny E Leer c 1875 Poplar who married Charles E Brenneke 1892 Paddington.
4. (Arthur) Alfred Edward Leer c 1879 Poplar married 1st Agnus McMahon 1900 and 2nd Clara Isobela Owens 1906 Sydney. Arthur died 1925 North Sydney.
5. Arthur William Leer 7/12/1880 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,USA married Elizabeth (Ellen) E Smith Paddington 1903. He died 1930 Granville

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quirk_cantwell , from Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since Feb 2007. is researching the following names: CANTWELL, MANN, DOOLEY and 15 other(s).

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by AliceAnn on 2008-10-01 06:39:05

Iam looking for information on my great grand parents. Alice Maud Scaysbrook and James Joseph Leer. Met in London, married and moved to Australia. I have been told James came from Philadelphia or at least was on a boat trip from America when he met Alice in London.
Hope you can help.
Alice Ann.

by quirk_cantwell on 2008-10-02 18:22:50

by AliceAnn on 2008-10-27 22:21:44

Hi Shauna,
Thank you for your information I will get back to you as soon as I manage to get my Aunt Shirley to answer her phone, she is the last living relative on mums side, the youngest daughter of Alice Edith Cairns,from second marraige surname Dickens, need to clarify Grandads name, thought it was William John Cairns could be w
rong,We have the right family as Grandma Alice Edith Leer was born 13 7 1890. My mother was her eldest child Alice Maud Cairns born 29 8 1909 thats why I was named Alice first daughter of the first daughter went down for generations,finished with me I have 3 boy
Shauna are we related,
Hope to hear from you soon.
Alice Ann

by quirk_cantwell on 2008-10-28 22:31:17

Hi Alice Ann,
Yes we are related our great grandfathers would have been 1st cousins which makes us fourth cousins I think. Have you seen your grandfathers war records on the National Archives of Australia website. His service number is 4748. He enlisted in Lithgow.I have a lot more info on the Leers and a little on the Scaysbrooks. I will send you a personal message tomorrow.Did you see the post I put on John Scaysbrook and Maria Ferris? I could not find Alice Maud's birth so I am guessing she maybe changed her name from Alice Maria when she married.Thats if I am right?
Cheers cousin
Best wishes

by AliceAnn on 2008-10-30 06:34:56

Hi Shauna
Good to know we are related. Could you back up a little and tell me, who is Alice Maria? This is wonderful to get all this information on Alice Maud Scaysbrook [my great grandmother] as I have a ring and bracelet that belonged to her, and as strange as it may sound I feel close to her, dont know why, she died before I was born.[weird].
No I havent seen the post on John and Maria yet also I havent seen grandads war records either, but I will, thanks to you.
Talk soon cousin
Alice Ann.

by AliceAnn on 2008-10-30 06:44:30

Hi Shauna
Its okay just read your post,I see where Alice Maria fits in.
bye for now,
Alice Ann.

by victoryoung07 on 2009-08-30 01:36:30

hi shauna
i dont know if we are related could you back up a little bit and tell me about the leer famley
was fanney leer any part of yr tree
she was born 1842 walworth (m) james holmes
spet 1860 childen
james holmes (b) 1862 he (m) dec 1885 lambeth
in st andrews church to clara matilda palmer
her son george james holmes (b)1886 lambeth
(m)4/12/1915 tufnell park to ethel minnie hoare
there son ronald george holmes (b) 1919 islington
(m) 18 dec 1948 to doreen agnes jackson
they passed away this year but had 3 daughters
hope to here from you to know if we are ive got a lot of info as well
bye for now vic

by victoryoung07 on 2009-08-30 01:39:04

i forgot fanny had another son george holmes (b)
1873 lambeth and they lived in princess street
then 6 coin street lambeth
yours vic

by rpielli on 2010-12-14 01:31:41

Hi Shauna,

I am also in Australia and a decendant of Dirk Frederick Klumper, the son of Sarah Mary Ann Leer & Charles Cornelius Klumper.

I am trying to trace the Klumper side, but can't get passed Charles Klumper's father Dirk and his marriage to Elizabeth Shephard in circa 1814.


by quirk_cantwell on 2010-12-14 05:24:37

Hi Rebecca,
I havent gone any further back on the Klumper side as it is not my line however, I will send you an email with what I have. I will try and contact a lady in Adelong who knows a Klumper descendant that may know more.

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