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Mornington News 10-9-2013. "100 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK."
A meeting of the Beachdale Progress Association was held at Latimer's store etc.

Where the hell was Beachdale? Beachdale was the original name of Seaford!

Moved by Mr Hall, and seconded by Mr Erwin, " that the name of the
Association be changed from Beachdale to Seaford, which is the name of the new station." Carried.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 8-11-1913.)

How long had residents called the area "Beachdale" and who were they? This was the article reproduced in the Mornington News,which would have been useless for family historians researching Seaford pioneers unless they knew the area's original name.

Beachdale Progress Association.
A meeting of the above association was held at Mrs Latimer's store on the 6th inst, when there was a large
attendance of members, and the following business was transacted:
Mr Martin moved that the secretary (Mr Wilson) interview Cr Ritchie, and point out that the Government reserve between the railway line and Kananook Creek may be suitable for an approach to the new railway station, from Martin's road, instead of a road to the east of the line; also to urge the opening up at once of the entrance to the station from Broughton's road. Mr McInnis seconded the motion, which was carried.
Mr Hall moved that the Hon. A. Downward. M.L A., be asked to assist in securing a school for the district. Mr McInnis seconded the motion, which was carried.

Mr Klauer moved, and Mr Martin seconded, that the secretary write to the secretary of the Carrum Downs Progress Association, requesting a delegate to attend next meeting, to confer to Abbott's road, which is a new outlet to the new station.Carried.

Mr Klauer moved, and Mr Roche seconded, that the secretary write to the proper authorities, and ask that a
quantity of scrub cut and stacked on the Government reserve, between the creek and railway line, near the new
station, be removed, as it is a harbour for fires.-Carried. Mr Wilson drew attention to what he considered a criminal neglect on the part of the authorities in allowing such a quantity of dry wood and rubbish to gather on the foreshore, between Frankston and Carrum. Should a fire start through some careless person there would be no possible chance of saving the whole of the reserve. Houses are now being erected on the opposite side of the road to the reserve, and the owners are in constant dread for fear of a fire starting in the reserve and sweeping all before it. Other members spoke, supporting Mr Wilson's contention.
Mr Wilson then moved that the Frankston Council be urged to form a deputation and wait on the proper authorities, with the view of having what is now a wilderness transformed into a beautiful seaside park of Mel-
bourne, of which thousands of city people would gladly take advantage of during the summer months. Mr M'Innes seconded the motion, which was carried.
(P.3,Mornington Standard, 13-9-1913.)

Beachdale Progress Association.
On the 2nd inst the Beachdale Progress Association again met at Mrs Latimer's store. The President, Mr.H. Broughton, occupied the chair. Mr Martin moved that the secretary write to the Frankston council and ask that their officers pay a visit of inspection to roads leading to the new station between Carrum and Frankston.-Mr McInnis seconded the motion, which was carried. The President (Mr Broughton) moved that the Railway Commissioners be asked to erect a milk dock at the new station.--Mr Martin seconded the motion, which was carried. Mr Wilson (secretary) moved that a letter of thanks from the association be forwarded to the-Hon. A. Downward, M.LA., for the great amount of work and trouble he had to secure the erection of the new station between Frankston and Carrum.-Mr McInnes seconded the motion, which was carried. Mr Wilson (secretary) moved that the Frankston Council be written to with the view of urging the Government to clear all dead timber and
rubbish from the Government Reserve, which extends along the beach between Carrum and Frankston, and thereby make it a beautiful seaside park, which would be visited by thousands from the city every summer. Also to have notices posted cautioning persons from lighting fires. The cost of clearing the dead timber would be paid for by selling the timber gathered for firewood. Also, it would give employment to numbers of persons.-Mr Klauer seconded the motion, which was carried. Mr Martin moved that the Education Department be again written to,
with the view of obtaining land for a school -Mrs Latimer seconded the motion, which was carried.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 9-8-1913.)

No wonder the progress association was willing to change its name. Beachdale was not a traditional name for the area and was only used for about two months. It would seem that the council was allowed to choose the name of the new council and decided on the one which recalled Assistant Aboriginal Protector, William Thomas, wading waist deep across the Kannanook Creek, at the north end of Long Island, in 1839 on the way to his protectorate at Kangerong.

Sir,-As secretary of our newly formed Beachdale Progress Association between Frankston and Carrum I have been instructed to furnish you with a few particulars. The new railway station between Frankston and Carrum will be completed in about 6 weeks. It will be the means of opening up without exception the finest beach in the Commonwealth. The public during the summer months will find the benefit of 2 miles of beautiful shelter, the ti-tree being all Government reserve. No such advantages are to be had at other watering places. Therefore, this new station should be one of the busiest on this seaside line. I might state that a name has not yet been selected for the new station, but several names are at present being considered by the Frankston council.

A very large gathering of residents met on the 11th last at Mr Latimer's store and a progress association was quietly formed, Mr Harry Broughton being elected first President and Mr W. Wilson secretary and treasurer. The name of Beachdale was selected as the name of the progress association,pending the naming of the station. Business was gone into and the Education Department is to be urged to open a school. Aspendale, Chelsea and Carrum Progress Associations have done a great deal for those parts, and before very long our Beachdale Association should be one of power.
Yours, etc., W. WILSON, Secretary of Progress Association.

(P.2, Mornington Standard, 19-7-1913.)

The Seaford Post Office opened on 6 March 1914.[3] (Wikipedia.)

by itellya Profile | Research | Contact | Subscribe | Block this user
on 2013-09-12 20:51:01

Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.

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by itellya on 2013-09-12 23:49:17

Edits re Klauer, Abbott,Wilson etc won't submit so there's no point doing further research. Sorry.

by tonkin on 2013-09-13 06:58:38

Hi itellya.

Interesting journal.

This may not help but there was a birth recorded for Percy Byron MCEVOY in Seaford, Victoria, in 1867. This indicates to me Seaford must have been known as Beachdale before 1867.

by itellya on 2013-09-13 11:06:00

It seems to me that human error is responsible for the birth record. The only Seaford in Victoria found in over an hour on trove was William Cherry's Seaford House, presumably near Altona. It is possible that Percy was born in the area now known as Seaford (although I have found no result for McEvoy combined with Lyndhurst or Frankston (parishes)or carrum swamp, place names that would have been used at the time.) If he was, someone might have chosen to use the current name to more clearly indicate Percy's birthplace. There were plenty of other Seafords, the town in New Zealand, the parish in Tasmania, in Sussex etc. and someone might have assumed that Seaford (without further detail) was the present Victorian locality.

I believe that the McEvoys were in the Nth Williamstown area if Percy was indeed born in Victoria. Cherry's estate obviously was named after his house:

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 16 September 1902 p 9 Article
... HUNTING. THE MELBOURNE HOUNDS. Recent rains having softened the ground, the Melbourne Hounds will hunt again this n thin week. The meet will be at Seaford via North Williamstown, on Thursday morning at 10 o'clock. ...

There are 24 results for "Seaford, Victoria" in 1912 on trove and not one of them refer to the locality that now carries the name.If anyone would like to try the 9,189 results available in total to prove me wrong,you're welcome; I confidently state that the suburb straddling the Lyndhurst/Frankston parish boundary (Seaford Rd) was never called Seaford until 1913 when that name was given to the new railway station.

A name that was used for the Seaford area prior to 1913 was South Carrum. William Armstrong and W.J.Klauer were responsible for much of Seaford's progress, as stalwarts of the progress association and as very popular councillors.

Mornington and Dromana Standard (Vic. : 1908 - 1911) Saturday 12 February 1910 p 2 Article
Wm. Armstrong, South Carrum, on behalf of several ratepayers, bringing under council's notice the desirability of cattle pits ..

by tonkin on 2013-09-13 22:00:20

From the Victorian Birth & Death Indexes.

Name: Percy Byron MCEVOY
Born: 1867 - Seaford
Father: unknown
Mother: Jane Louisa MCEVOY
Ref: VBI #24935

Name: Arthur Gamble CHERRY
Born: 1879 - Maidstone
Died: 1880 - Seaford
Age: 08 months
Father: Robert CHERRY
Mother: Eliza BLAIR
Ref: VBI #17514 & VDI #1810

Name: William Archibald NEWTON
Born: 1905 - Seaford
Father: William Thomas NEWTON
Mother: Christina GILLIES
Ref: VBI #21930

Re: William Cherry's 'Seaford house' presumably near Altona.

There was a William CHERRY and Louisa DOHERTY having several children in Maidstone between 1870 and 1876. Maidstone is near Altona. I'm now thinking this may be the same William with the Seaford house.

Looking at Arthur Gamble CHERRY again.
Born: 1879 Maidstone.
Died: 1880 Seaford.

I'm now wondering if 'Seaford' and 'Seaford house' is one of the same.

by itellya on 2013-09-14 01:12:51

The locality probably gained the name of the house/estate among the locals in the same way that the area near the southern end of the parish of Yuroke,near Somerton Rd became known by the name of John McKerchar's "Greenvale".

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