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The Ship THAMES 1826

Journal by janilye

Please contact me if you had an ancestor who arrived on the THAMES

The Irish immigration ship the Thames which brought wives and children from Cork Ireland to Sydney to unite with their husband/father who had been transported prior to 1826

The Thames was the first immigration ship to carry families directly from Ireland.

The Thames sailed from Cork 14 November 1825 and arrived 11 April 1826 and carried 37 wives and 107 children. There were also 16 paying passengers and crew captained by Robert Frazier and Surgeon Superintendant Dr. Linton R.N

There is no official passenger list existing in the NSW State Archives, the National Archives in Canberra or the National Archives in Dublin Ireland .

The purpose is to locate extended family members of those that immigrated on the Thames with the view to drawing together background information on what has happened to those Thames families and their convict husbands since 1826.

The objective is to document as many as possible Thames family stories and provide this information to the Mitchell Library and to the Society of Australian Genealogists (SAG) in the form of a manuscript.

A researcher named Lyn Vincent of Lyndon Genealogy has managed to reconstruct a passenger list through using the 1828 Census, the Ship Surgeon's Report, Birth, Death and Marriage Indexes and the Australian Biographical & Genealogical Record.

A Constable Michael Sheedy in the 1830s also compiled a list of family names that travelled on the Thames .

Unfortunately there were 16 deaths on the voyage (3 wives and 13 children). Close analysis of the Surgeon's Report (Dr. Lynton) has identified 2 of the wives and 8 children) on a microfilm held by the Mitchell Library. It would seem that not all of the Surgeon's report has been copied to microfilm

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by janilye Profile | Research | Contact | Subscribe | Block this user
on 2011-04-16 05:09:06

janilye - 7th generation, Convict stock. Born in New South Wales now living in Victoria, carrying, with pride 'The Birthstain'.

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by 1bobbylee on 2011-04-26 20:02:34

An informative journal. To have first ship THAMES to carry immigrants from Ireland. Amazing!!

by thames on 2012-02-15 17:22:44

Hi Janilye

Do you have an interest in the Irish emigration ship "Thames". Did you have relatives arrive on the ship?


Robert Clayton

by janilye on 2012-02-15 23:26:07

My 3rd. great grandmother Mary McCarthy 1795-1870 the wife of Ribbonist John Kilduff 1793-1854 was onboard but that was not why I was collecting names. The list was for someone else who is researching the Thames and I posted this for him. Although now, I have no idea who it was because someone HACKED my email and deleted all my folders and my contacts. - all is not lost though, I can send it a distant cousin John Kilduff he's in the loop!

by nerrie on 2012-09-30 08:28:30

Mary McCarthy was great, great grandmother. William (John and Mary's son) was my great grandfather. Frank was my grandfather and Alfred Martin Kilduff was my Dad. Thank you for your interesting articles on all things history.

Neridah Ford - nee Kilduff

by janilye on 2012-09-30 13:15:00

I haven't added beyond your father on my tree (privacy and all that). Thank you for your comment. Glad you think they're interesting.
Do you live in Grafton?

by PaulDon on 2016-04-25 10:34:36

Dear Janilye, My name is Paul Donohue and my GGG Grandfather James (possibly with alternative 'Donohue' spelling) was transported to Sydney on the 'Mangles'in 1822.

He applied to have his wife and family sent to Sydney on the 'Thames' in 1825.

I would be so grateful if I could find out if his son James (my GG Grandfather) born in Limerick in 1820 and other family members were among the passengers on the 'Thames' which arrived in Sydney in 1826. Does Lyn Vincent have such a list?

by janilye on 2016-04-25 13:55:18

or try
Bob Starling
6 Cecil Avenue
Wangi Wangi NSW 2267
[email protected]
I have 2 of Clayton's documents on my old computer, I think one 'Thames passenger data Base' an XLS file I can't open. The other is the Thames ship's surgeon's report. I'd forgotten all about this research.
Private message me your email address and I will send them to you, perhaps you can open them, I don't think they will be much as I've had them since the very beginning of the research. I don't know how far the list has progressed.

by janilye on 2016-04-25 15:05:17

DONOGHUE, James. Per "Mangles", 1822
Trial Place: Co Limerick
Trial Date: Spring 1822
Sentence: Life
November 1822: On list of convicts landed from the "Mangles" and forwarded to Airds for distribution (Reel 6009; 4/3506 p.431)
10 April 1824 On list of prisoners on establishment at Bathurst with sentences not transmitted (Reel 6028; 2/8283 p.103)

James Donoghue Mangles (2) According to State Records, family came free on the Thames.

by PaulDon on 2016-04-26 12:35:48

Thanks so much, Janilye. I really appreciate your wonderful, quick response. I'll email Robert Clayton first, to try and get his passenger lists for the "Thames". If this doesn't work out, I'd like to try to open the old Excel files you mentioned. I'll let you know what happens. Of course, I'll be only too happy to share with any other interested people whatever information I have and/or new info I might find out. Although I now live permanently in Bulgaria, I also proudly wear the 'birthstain' which I only recently discovered I have.

by PaulDon on 2016-05-04 06:46:10

by PaulDon on 2016-05-11 05:55:34

Hi again, Janilye,
I've been in touch with Bob Starling and he is very graciously doing some research to more accurately and fully identify my Donoghue ancestors, as they should appear on the "Clayton's" 1826 "Thames Passenger List".

I'm greatly indebted to you and FamilyTreeCircles for this marvelous assistance.

by janilye on 2017-04-28 20:55:39

The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser, Wed 12 April 1826

Yesterday arrived the ship Thames, Captain Robert Frazer, with stores for Government.
She sailed from Cork the 14th November; from Teneriffe 29th November; and from Pernambuco 11th January last.
By this conveyance are forwarded 37 women, the wives of free men and prisoners, who bring along with them 107 children.
We are sorry to say that 3 women and 13 children died on the passage. Passengers, Mr. Raymond, Mrs. Raymond, and 9 children, and Mr. James Richards, saddler. Surgeon Superintendent, Dr. Linton, R. N.
Another vessel, with male prisoners, was to leave shortly after the departure of the Thames.

Once again! here is the PASSENGER LIST (the McCarthy's are mine!)

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