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Tracing my gg grandfather,Francis Colgrave in UK. b 1806 transported to Australia in

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on 2013-03-16 18:42:16

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by janilye on 2013-03-17 11:39:25

by myrelies on 2013-03-18 18:49:39

Thank you. I had Most of this information. I have his birthdate as 4. 3. 1806 but I don't know where. A lead for his father also Francis 1. 8. 1701 -- His wife Mary Cooper 1705-1776. Again nothing else.
Were Thomas Colgrave and Margaret Pettitt and their son Tommae - 1604 - in the Parish of Oxford, Church of All Saints/St Thomas, Francis' family? I don't know if 1604 was a Baptism of Tommae,or the marriage of Thomas and Margaret. I also have 1602 as the birth date of Thomas and Margaret?? and were these people his - Francis' - parent Tommae and Mother ?? and grand-parents?
I also have 1571 a date for Thomas Colgrave ?The father of Thomas of 1604, but again no residential or name for a mother. So frustrating!

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by janilye on 2013-03-19 08:15:31

I've seen the name Frances Bourne put forward as their mother on a tree researched by Joyce Austin a decendant of Highgate Colgrave 1772-1818, brother to Francis Colgrave born 31 August 1770 baptised 19 August 1771. with a marriage 19 August 1798 in Thurleigh. There was also a sister called Frances Bourne Colgrave 1809-1877. I know children are often given the mother's maiden name as a second forename. Another sister was Susan Payne Colgrave, named after her grandmother Sarah Payne 1746-1795 Sarah was born in Felmersham and died in Thurleigh, married Samuel Colgrave 1745-1784 in Felmersham in 1767. His mother was Mary Cooper 1705-1776. Father Francis Colgrave baptised 1 August 1701 at Sharnbrook, Bedfordshire and the marriage 13 July 1723 in Dunstable, Bedforfshire.
This note attached to Francis 1701:
"Details of the baptisms of the children of Francis and Mary Colegrave were supplied to me by Lyn Scadding, County Archivist for the Bedfordshire County Record Offiice, Bedfordshire in 1997 and were taken from the Parish Registers for Bletsoe, Bolnhurst, Sharnbrook and Thurleigh. There is also a burial for a Cooper Colegrave on 21 January 1738, however I think this should be 1739. Joyce Austin"
Joyce may be contacted on ancestry.com where she has one public tree, with the ID joycefrankie1

by myrelies on 2013-06-30 00:32:23

Hello Janilye and Noggin, I have been doing a little digging and found something more. Francis Colgrave born 4.3.1806 and baptised 6.4.1806 in Thurleigh, Bedfordshire. His Father Francis born 1770 Mother Ann Smith born 1780.(Convict Records,Van Diemens Land)so Frances' children were his half-siblings. I have not so far heard of the twins born to Ann later (Benjamin and Charles 14.4.1816)Father Francis Colgrave.(coldgrove, which is the literal meaning of the Anglo-Saxon, which came out of Oxford in the 1100s - findmyroots. There are other spellings also.
I too contacted Lynn Scadding but her Parish records do not go past 1602 with Thomas and Margaret Pettit both born that year and married 1624.Their son Thomas born 1640 married Juditha ? born 1643. Their son Thomas b 1663 married Rebeccah ? b 1671.
Do you mind if I print out your Journals please?

by myrelies on 2013-06-30 00:34:51

Hello Janilye and Noggin, I have been doing a little digging and found something more. Francis Colgrave born 4.3.1806 and baptised 6.4.1806 in Thurleigh, Bedfordshire. His Father Francis born 1770 Mother Ann Smith born 1780.(Convict Records,Van Diemens Land)so Frances' children were his half-siblings. I have not so far heard of the twins born to Ann later (Benjamin and Charles 14.4.1816)Father Francis Colgrave.(coldgrove, which is the literal meaning of the Anglo-Saxon, which came out of Oxford in the 1100s - findmyroots. There are other spellings also.
I too contacted Lynn Scadding but her Parish records do not go past 1602 with Thomas and Margaret Pettit both born that year and married 1624.Their son Thomas born 1640 married Juditha ? born 1643. Their son Thomas b 1663 married Rebeccah ? b 1671.
Do you mind if I print out your Journals please?

by myrelies on 2013-07-08 02:20:25

Hello Noggin, Your journal posted 19.3.2013.

The twins Benjamin and Charles christened 14,4.1816 could not have belonged to the Francis 1806 as he would have been just 10years old at the time.

The names Francis and Ann were obviously very popular in the Colgrave families.

Myrelies.

by amanda0712 on 2014-01-04 05:28:41

Hi myrelies,

My name is Amanda. I live in Tasmania and Francis and Isabella were my 4th great grandparents. I actually have quite a bit of info on the Colgrave family, most of which I have picked up online (not all of it is confirmed as yet, but may give a place to start). I would suggest having a look at Sue Wyatt's website, wyatt-family.com. She has a fabulous pedigree of the Colgrave family on there, mostly just names with some dates included back to Thomas Colgrave and Margaret Pettitt. Also there is a really good thread on Ancestry, if you have access, regarding Francis' possible illegitimacy and also the fact that he may have also had an illegitimate child before transportation.

Good luck with your research and please feel free to get in touch if I can help in any was.

Cheers
Amanda

by myrelies on 2014-01-28 07:27:25

Hello Amanda, Thanks for your additions. Francis 1806 was my 3rd ggrandfather.His father Francis was married to Frances Bourne who already had three daughters at the time when 1806 Francis was born to Ann Smith.
Francis and his half-brother Samuel were convicted at about the same time and were transported to Van Diemens Land.
I know nothing of Samuel other than that they were raised together by Frances and Francis. Jan

by YALLAMBEE on 2015-08-19 22:11:20

Hello Amanda, The Colgrave and the Burford family have a connection via Gordon Burford marriage to Mary Ann Davey she being the daughter of Geo Davey and Martha Jane (nee Colgrave)

I am endeavouring to trace a Willie Colgrave Born 2/10/1882 son of Robert Arthur Colgrave 1857 1904 and Mary Dacie 1856 1884. ....Robert Arthur was son on Francis Colgrave and Issabella Watkins.

You will see that Willies mother died 2 years after his birth but there dosent seem to be any trace of what happened to willie after ie marriage, death etc . Perhaps you have some trace of him.

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