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ENGLAND: Some notes on Medieval English Genealogy
Some more interesting sites:-
Medieval Genealogy
Some useful links
Gen-Medieval/Soc.Genealogy Medieval Website
This site is brilliant...
Good Web Guide Review of Medieval Genealogy Websites!
DINNER / DENNER Family Devon & Cornwall, England 1790--> SA, VIC, NSW & QLD Australia
Dear FamilyTreeCircle Members, Hi. I'm looking for any connections with these families:-
DENNER/DINNER
Richard DENNER (my 4g grandfather) was born abt 1790 England (probably Cornwall) occupation Labourer 1841 Census, married unknown unknown. Had at least one child that I can find at present, James DINNER^ also known as James DENNER (my 3g grandfather) born 1818 Newton Abbot, Devon, England.
^ PANDORA - Australia's Web Archive Click on BROWSE ALPHABETIC LIST, then SELECT THE LETTER OF THE SURNAME YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
Information from this website is listed as under in italics:-
"FIRST FAMILIES 2001
First Family Member Details
Surname: DENNER
Given Name(s): James
Occupation(s): Steam engine maintenance
Birth Details
Birth County,
Region, Province: Devon
Birth Country: England
Death Details
Death Town: Kialla West
Death State/Territory: Victoria
Death Country: Australia
Death Date: 1898
Immigration Details
Air/Port Landed: Adelaide
Ship/Plane: Canton
Year Arrived: 1846
Canton 1846 from London 27 - 04 1846 via Plymouth, Captain Daniel Friend, arrived Port Adelaide on 31-07-1846
Bound for South Australia
Surname: PYNE
Given Name(s): Mary Ann
Birth Details
Birth County,
Region, Province: Cornwall
Birth Country: England
Death Details
Death Town: Kialla West
Death State/Territory: Victoria
Death Country: Australia
Death Date: 1896
Immigration Details
Air/Port Landed: Adelaide
Ship/Plane: Canton
Year Arrived: 1846
Family Stories
Life in Australia:
James & Mary Ann came to South Australia with others from Cornwall in answer to the call for men who were accustomed to working deep lead mines. James was not a miner: he maintained/worked the steam engines, but soon after coming to Australia he was listed as a farm labourer. When gold was discovered in Victoria the family came to the Daylesford area; James was known to work a dredge at one stage, then had a farm. When eldest daughter Lavina married, the family settled on a neighbouring farm at Kialla West, where Eliza married another's neighbour's son, William McCarron, to become my grandmother.
You and Your Family:
Our story is told under the name of McCARRON
Life Before Australia:
Nothing concrete is known of the life of James and Mary Ann in England. James could not read and write, so there are no letters, but the family "legend" says the Denners came as Hugenots from Alsace to Somerset, then to Devon. This is denied by the Hugenot Society in England, which says no refugees came to England from there! The family legend continues that James, as a boy of 16, went to Cornwall to learn to work the steam engines. There he married Mary Ann Pyne,obviously,but no documents can be found. His death certificate lists two children born in Cornwall (just the county given) and apparently Richard died, because only Lavina was with them when they landed in Adelaide in 1846. We do not have a location for them in either Devon or Cornwall. James's death certificate says his father was Richard Denner, bootmaker, but he does not appear in any list we have found so far.
Descendants
Children
DALDY, Emily DENNER, Charles DENNER, Elizabeth
DENNER, Henry DENNER, James DENNER, Richard
DENNER, William MCCARRON, Eliza PETHYBRIDGE, Lavina
NB: Superscript behind each descendant name represents the lineage number of that descendant.
This family information was last updated by LILIAN BEATRICE KIRK on the 23 December, 2000. "
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Building on the above information, this is my research as follows:-
James DINNER married 4 April 1841 Stoke Climsland, Cornwall (died 1898 Euroa% VIC Australia) to Mary Ann PINE born 17 Dec 1820, South Hill, Cornwall (died 1896 Euroa VIC Australia). Mary Ann PINE was the daughter of Richard PINE and Elizabeth CRUSE. (Elizabeth CRUSE had first married George JANE 1759-1808). Mary Ann PINE had two known elder siblings, Elizabeth PINE born 1811, and Henry PINE born 1814 all born South Hill, Cornwall.
James DENNER died aged 79years, 28 March 1898 Euroa VIC Australia. He is buried at the Kialla Cemetery. His wife Mary Ann died aged 76years, 25 Dec 1896 also at Euroa. I haven't found a burial location as yet.
% Historical Fact: Euroa was where famous Bushranger Ned Kelly and his gang stuck up the local bank.
James & Mary Ann DINNER had 9 children. First 2 children born England, last 7 born Australia. Family settled Adelaide, South Australia; various parts of Victoria and New South Wales.
1.Richard DINNER chr. 5 Dec 1841 Stoke Climsland, died 1844 Eng.
2.Lavina DENNER born 1843 unknown, England
married 1860 at Tara VIC to Richard PETHYBRIDGE, issue...
James and Mary Denner, and child (Lavina) arrived in Adelaide SA from Plymouth 31.7.1846 aboard the ship "Canton", the journey taking some 3 months.
3.James DENNER born 1847 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1875 Christina LAW. They had two children.
1)James 1876-1952
2)Henry Thomas 1878-1953 married Emma LANGTON
4.Henry DENNER born 1849 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1874 VIC to Charlotte Sally DIXON, issue 9 children.
1)Sarah Kate DENNER married Albert PROWD @ (probable relations)
2)Thomas Charles DENNER ...died young
3)Mary Ann DENNER married Walter WALKER
4)Charlott Fleming DENNER ...died young
5)William Henry DENNER married Elizabeth PROWD @
6)Harry James DENNER married Elizabeth ONELY
7)Charlotte Emily DENNER married John PASS
8)Richard John DENNER ...died young
9)Lillian Maud DENNER married William HARVEY
5.Elizabeth DENNER born 1850 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1878 VIC William MCCARRON issue...
6.Eliza B. DINNER born 3 Dec 1856, Back Ck, Bourke, Victoria, Australia *
7.William DUINER (sic) born 1860 Tara, Victoria, Australia
8.Emily DINNER born 1862 Malm, Victoria, Australia
married 1882 Kialla West VIC to Vincent DALDY, died 1884 in childbirth, had daughter named Emily who died young before her 3rd birthday 1884-1887.
9.Charles DENNER born 1864 VIC, died Condobalin NSW
* gg grandmother, married John Henry PARKER
PARKER/DINNER
John Henry PARKER born abt 1850, Australia married 8 Oct 1877 at Grenfell, New South Wales to Eliza B. DINNER. I've only been able to find seven children, but my grandmother, who is 93 yrs old, tells me there were more!
1.Susan Jane PARKER born 1878 Grenfell NSW Australia (10368/1878)
2.Esther PARKER born 1879 Grenfell NSW Australia (11133/1879)
3.Caroline PARKER ** born 3 Aug 1883 Grenfell NSW Australia
4.Ellen E. PARKER born 1887 Grenfell NSW Australia (22194/1887)
5.John H. PARKER born 1890 Grenfell NSW Australia (15133/1890)
6.Phebe A. PARKER born 1892 Grenfell NSW Australia (15481/1892)
7.Violet M. PARKER born 1895 Grenfell NSW Australia (3737/1895)
** g grandmother, married Henry AMOR
PHOTOGRAPH is of my grandmother's parents...Henry AMOR & Caroline PARKER. If the photo looks a little odd it is because it was restored. Pic was in dreadful condition and was exceedingly small in size. It lay in my grandmother's drawers unknown to myself, the firstborn grandchild (and family historian), until an appearance just recently. With the wonders of modern technology, a fireplace was inserted in the background and pretty flowers added to the mantle. And Great Gran was given a new dress and body! It's kind of like breathing new life into one's ancestors.
Caroline PARKER married 4 Jul 1904 to Henry AMOR born 1876 Rochester VIC Australia. He was the son of William AMOR and Ann Priscilla WHEELER of Wiltshire, England. Henry & Caroline AMOR had five children, of whom four have now passed on, leaving my grandmother the last of her generation.
Regards, Alison
QLD Australia.
ENGLAND: Did your ancestors come from Devon?
Dear FamilyTreeCircle Members,-
If your ancestors came from Devon, it is highly likely that one name studies have already been undertaken. Major surnames have been added below in the SURNAMES section of this journal.
These links will take you straight to the Devon GenWeb, which is part of England's GenWeb Project.
Devon Surnames
Devon Family History Society
This link is to some of the beautiful scenery in Devon:
From Dartmoor to Exeter
Cheerio, Allycat.
Do you have this surname in your tree? Doudswell, Doudeswell, Dowdeswell, Dowdsell, Dowdswell, Dowdiswell
Looking for ancestors/descendants of the following:-
Thomas DOWDSWELL born abt 1778 probably Gloucestershire England
married 24th November 1803 at St Mary De Lode Gloucestershire England to Ann HEWLETT. The couple had three known children: 1.Thomas DOWDSWELL christened 24th November 1803 St Mary De Lode Gloucestershire died 1804, 2.Ann DOWDSELL (sic) christened 25th December 1804 Stroud Gloucestershire, and 3.Thomas DOWDSWELL born 1806 Gloucestershire.
Not much is known about the other two siblings, but Ann DOWDSELL married 17th October 1825 at St Mary De Lode Gloucestershire to George DAVIS christened 12th June 1796 St John the Baptist, Gloucester City, died 19th December 1884 Barton St Mary, South Hamlet, Gloucestershire.
George & Ann DAVIS had 10 children:
1.Harriet DAVIS b 1827
2.George DAVIS born 1828
3.James DAVIS born 1830
4.Ann DAVIS born 1832
5.Ellen DAVIS born 1833
6.William DAVIS born 1835
7.Jane DAVIS born 1837
8.Wiliam DAVIS born 1839
9.Alfred DAVIS born 1842
10.Hannah DAVIS (ancestor) born 23/5/1847 Barton St Mary, chr 13/6/1847 St James
Hannah DAVIS emigrated to Australia, entry details unknown at this stage. She married Charles Robert JACKSON who was born 14/6/1842 Stockport, Cheshire. They had at least one known daughter, Esther JACKSON born 23/8/1869 Majorca, Victoria, Australia. Hannah JACKSON nee DAVIS died 16/11/1928 Warragul, Victoria and Charles JACKSON died 6/7/1917 Warragul, Victoria, Australia.
Their daughter, Esther JACKSON married 18/12/1888 at San Remo, Victoria to Frederick William AMOR born 1868 NSW. [More info available].
Are there any connections out there?
Allycat.
ENGLAND: The Weald of Kent, Surrey & Sussex (updated)
Dear FamilyTreeCircle Members, Hi there. Hopefully you've all been enjoying my website links...
If your ancestors came from these areas, please do have a look at this beautifully constructed website. It contains clickable data such as: Census; Maps; Documents; Pictures; Genealogy; People of Note; and more importantly has Genealogical Pedigrees of more than 1500 families.
Areas of the Weald: Ashdown Forest, Frant, Sevenoaks, Buxted, Groombridge, Speldhurst, Crowborough, Hartfield, Tonbridge, East Grinstead, Hever, Tunbridge Wells, East Hoathley, Horsted Keynes, Uckfield, Edenbridge, Isfield, Wadhurst, Eridge, Little Horsted, Waldron, Fletching, Maresfield, Westerham, Forest Row, Mayfield, Withyham, Framfield and Rotherfield.
UPDATED ... Link to 'The Weald'
Looking for ancestors/descendants of Ernest JAHN & Elizabeth HANSFORD
Ernest (or Ernst) JAHN was my 2g grandfather born 1851 in the Harz Mountains (Kingdom of Hanover), Germany. It is not known when he emigrated to England but he married my 2g grandmother 16 May 1875 St.Lukes Church, St.James, Westminster, England, Elizabeth Mary HANSFORD born 8 Jun 1854 47 Great Peter Street, Westminster, England died aged 71yrs 26 Apr 1923 at 34 Racton Road, Fulham, London, England from acute bronchitis. Elizabeth was the daughter of Alfred HANSFORD 1824-1858 and Ellen MCFARLANE born 1820 Harwich, Essex, England.
Another family member has supplied parents names of Ernest - August JAHN and Emma RUEPING. However I do not have any supporting documentation to back this up.
It is thought by several branches of JAHN descendants in England and also Australia that one of the JAHNs (who were bootmakers) made the shoes for Prince Albert upon his marriage to Queen Victoria.
Ernest and Elizabeth JAHN had 6 children:-
1.Louisa JAHN born 1 Aug 1876 37 Princes St, Westminster, died 4 Feb 1956 married 4 Aug 1895 Charles WOODCOCK born 18 Mar 1873 28 Wilton Street, Westminster, and had 9 children: Louise, Daisy, Macey, Margaret, Gladys, Charles, Isabella, Beatrice and Pauline. Louisa died aged 80yrs 4 Feb 1956 at 24 Pownall Place, Fulham, London, England. Charlie died aged 79yrs 3 Dec 1952 Fulham, London, England.
2.Mary JAHN born 12 Jun 1878 37A Princes Street, Westminster. Birth: GRO Sept 1878 Westminster 1a 482; Occupation: Tailoress. Note: She may be 'Aunt Polly' that is mentioned of by other family tree researchers. Polly is another form of Mary. If this is so, then she married and went to live in Switzerland and is believed to have had three sons.
3.Annie Elizabeth JAHN (my g grandmother) born 5 Oct 1879 59 Wardour Street, Westminster, England married my g grandfather 12 Apr 1903 Parish Church of St. Anne, Soho, Westminster, England Alexander WOODCOCK born 19 Jun 1877 16 Vincent Street, Westminster, England. Annie's occupation: Tailoress. Alexander's occupation: Electric Light Wireman. Annie & Alexander had 8 children: Annie, Bertha, Dorothy, Alexander, Edgar (my grandfather), Stanley, Phyllis and Betty.
4.Emily JAHN born 17 May 1885 chr. 10 Feb 1904 Soho St. Annes
5.Ellen JAHN born 14 Jan 1888 23 Great Windmill Street, Westminster, London, England chr. 10 Feb 1904 Soho St. Annes married Sept Quarter 1913 Fulham, London, England to Edward BANGETER born 1890 Sweden.
6.Ernest Alfred JAHN born 28 Jan 1892 33 Great Windmill Street, Westminster, London, England. Occupation: Bootmaker. According to family members, Ernest changed his name to Ernest JOHNS and became a singer (musical hall?).
My Genealogy Notations:-
*Two JAHN sisters married two WOODCOCK brothers. Louise married Charles WOODCOCK, occupation a lithographic printer; and Annie Elizabeth married Alexander WOODCOCK occupation an electric light wire man. They were the sons of George James WOODCOCK occupation Butcher and Isabella BUCHAN.
I have the WOODCOCK line back to 1777 Winfarthing, and the BUCHAN line back to 1600s Aberdeenshire.
Ernest Jahn - born abt 1849 Harz Mountains, Germany. Family legend has it that he came to England from Germany with his brother to escape conscription. It is said that he came from the Harz Mountains area but, in the 1891 Census for 33 Great Windmill Street, Westminster, London, his place of birth is stated to be Hamburg though this may just have been his point of departure. (Jan 1998 - not yet found in Shipping Lists for Hamburg departures). He is reputed to have made boots and shoes for the British Royal Family. His daughter, Louisa, was apprenticed to him and sewed the buckles and the gemstones on the shoes of Princess Alexandra (wife to Edward VII) and Princess Mary of Teck.
DEATH: Certified Copy of an Entry of Death, given at the GRO, Application No.G00593/B, Registration District Fulham, 1908 Death in the Sub-District of North East Fulham, in the County of London, No.307, When and Where Died: 11 Nov 1908 at 31 Racton Road, Fulham, London; Name and Surname: Ernest Jahn; Sex Male; Age 58yrs; Occupation: Shoemaker; Cause of Death: Found dead, syncope, Pneumonia, natural pm; Signature, description and residence of informant: Certificate received from C.Lusmoore, Drew Coroner for London, Inquest held 13 Nov 1908; When registered: 14 Nov 1908.
OBITUARY/INQUEST: RACTON ROAD MAN'S PEACEABLE END - The sudden decease of Ernest Jahn, aged 58, a bootmaker, of 31 Racton-road, Fulham, was inquired into at the Fulham Coroner's Court on Friday. - Elizabeth Jahn, wife of the deceased, said that her husband was a sober man. He had had a cold a fortnight before. Deceased was worried over losing his work after being constantly employed for thirty years. - The Coroner: Hadn't he a pension? - Witness: Oh, no - Proceeding, she said that on the Wednesday previously, she went to her work at a quarter to seven in the morning and did not return till eleven o'clock in the evening. She was surprised to hear of her husband's death. - Ernest Alfred Jahn, son of the deceased, said that on the Wednesday he got up at eight o'clock and called his father. He heard him stirring in his room. He had his breakfast and read the paper, and about ten o'clock went up to his father's room and found him dead, lying on his back - Mrs Deane, a neighbour, of 22 Racton-road, said she had known Mr Jahn for three years, and always thought him cheerful and healthy. - Dr A C Shaw-Mackenzie, of 2 Racton-road, said he was called to the house and found the man dead. He had made a post-mortem examination, and found that the deceased had acute congestion of the lungs and pneumonia. The cause of death was heart failure, consequent on the congestion of the lungs. - A verdict of "Death from natural causes" was returned. [Source: COPY OF THE FULHAM CHRONICLE dated 20th November 1908]
Photograph below is of Ernest JAHN, my gg grandfather. I'd only just received this portrait from another of his gg granddaughters in England via our mutual trees at Genes Reunited. The photo was in poor condition and I had it professionally restored for free RootsChat.com - Photograph Restoration.
I might add that I'm delighted to be able to find out more on my JAHN and HANSFORD ancestors and hope to get in contact with descendants of Mary, Emily, Ellen and Ernest JAHN wherever they may be.
Alison QLD Australia.
The AMOR family of Bishops Canning, Wiltshire England 1562-->1876 VIC Australia
Dear fellow FamilyTreeCircle members, since posting this message I have been able to stretch my tree out to the 1500s to my AMOR ancestors at Bishops Canning, Wiltshire.
Looking for any links with this family:-
George AMOR (3g grandfather) born 1780 Bromham Wiltshire England married 24/12/1804 Bromham to Rebekka KNEE. (She was most probably the daughter of Benjamin KNEE source: 1772 Poll of Knights Wiltshire). The couple probably had two children, my ancestor George AMOR born 1805 Bromham, Wiltshire and Jane AMOR born 1814.
George AMOR b1805 married at Bromham 22/07/1833 to Rebecca ABRAMS of Bromham and they had 7 children that I can find.
1. Mary AMOR b1823
2. John AMOR b1824
3. Carraline AMOR b1827
4. Ena AMOR b1829
5. Ann AMOR chr. 22/07/1834
6. William AMOR chr. 09/07/1837-1913 my 2g grandfather
7. Elizabeth AMOR chr. 05/09/1841
William AMOR 1837-1913, occupation farmer, (my ancestor) married 13/10/1856 at Chittoe, Devizes, Wiltshire, England to Ann Priscilla WHEELER born 1835 Arnecliffe, Westbury, Wiltshire, England to parents: John WHEELER born 1801 Bremhill & Ruth BANCROFT born 1806 Bremhill. There are also marriage links with the FORTUNE family of Derry Hill, Wiltshire.
The couple (PHOTO attached), William AMOR and Ann Priscilla WHEELER (my gg grandparents) came to Australia when they were newly married, on the 'Beejapore' from Yorkshire. The 'Beejapore' arrived Botany Bay NSW 14 Mar 1857. The journey usually took about 9 months from England.
In Australia they settled in the State of Victoria and had 11 children in 18 years.
1.Elizabeth Jane b1858-1945 .. married 1882 Peter GIBSON from Scotland
2.George b1859-1860 ... died young.
3.Ellen b1861-1934 .. married 1881 John MITCHELL
4.William b1863-1932 ..married 1883 Louisa PRIDMORE
5.Annie b1865 ..married William SMITH
6.Frederick William b1868 ..married Esther JACKSON
7.Rebecca b1869 ..married Michael GRIFFIN
8.Martha b1871 ..married George BEARDSLEY
9.George b1873 ..
10.Robert b1874-1902
11.Henry AMOR b 12/6/1876 ..married 1904 Caroline PARKER *
*My Great Grandparents.
All replies answered. Thank you, Allycat in Australia.
