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ELTZSCHNER is an alternate spelling for the surname ELSCHNER. In the Elschner family history book I have both spellings are used. It appears as if there were two branches of the family (one 'ELSCHNER' woman married an ELTZSCHNER man - possible cousins).
A story circulating in the family is that two ELSCHNER/ELTZSCHNER brothers had a falling out and split the family into two branches which never seemed to reconnect. Possibly brothers named Max and Morris, although these do not seem to be family names and I cannot find a reference to them.
There are also several other spelling options,but the only one I have reference to in the family history book is OELSCHNER.
The Elschner family has (in its possession) a Coat of Arms, but no references can be found that tell us what it was awarded for or when or any history of it. (Image with my profile).
There is a family 'story' about the Coat of Arms, but I have yet to be able to substantiate it.
Anyone with anything that may help, please contact me.
If you are fairly new to genealogy you may be enticed to purchase one of the many books promoted across the internet, in email, and in junk 'snail' mail. Please BEwArE! No, I haven't bought any of the books on my family, but my mom (she wanted to help) bought a "Brooks Family" book for me as a gift. Although it contains some very general info on the Brooks name (how much of which is true I can't say)the book is primarily a phone/address book of all Brooks families / persons in the US.
While this might assist in some way, especially if you have a VERY unique name (although those aren't usually offered) I would advise you to beware. At over $50, these books are a total waste of money for the serious researcher. (You can send a lot of document requests with return postage that would better serve your needs).
I hope this helps someone avoid being taken in, after all, we all want to know our roots, and making GOOD connections is vital.
Does that box of unlabeled photos haunt you? Most genealogists learn very quickly to label their photos with names, dates and places, but what about your parents, or grandparents photos?
Often, old letters and circulating family stories may help you to identify old photos from the descriptions they contain. Of course, there is nothing that can beat the memories of older relatives. If possible, make a little trip to grandma and take those photos with you. Remember, storage in acid free media (pages or boxes) and labeling with acid free ink will help preserve those priceless images.
You may also want to scan your photos and save a couple of copies on disks.
Here is a portion of a letter My grandmother (Irene Rogers 1900 - 1978)wrote to my father (Franklin Miller 1929 - 1973)when he began asking about her relations many years ago.
as noted by Mabel Irene Rogers
Benjamine Rogers was born in Caernarvonshire, North
Wales and married Marguerite Jones also of
They appear to have migrated to Prince Edward Island
Canada and settled on :Lot 16", county unknown.
The Rogers men were described as:
Huge with big, red or black curly beards and brillint
blue eyes. They looked like Pirates. All were musical
and sword melodiously in rumbly bass voices--Irene
Benjamine Rogers had black hair and beard, son Joseph
had red, and son Thomas had blond (light) hair and
Researching my Husband's family (maternal line).
FAMOLARE, ANTHONY and FICARRA, ANTONIA, his G-G-Grandparents.
His mother, Marie FAMOLARE 1935 is the daughter of Anthony Joseph FAMALORE (1905 - 1978)and Mary TRICHITTA(1908 - 1996).Anthony is the son of Joseph FAMALORE Jr. (1873-1950) and Josephine SILVA (1873-1970). Joseph FAMALORE Sr. was born in Sicily, but so far no other info.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
(Note: a vowel followed by 'e' (ue,oe,ae,) replace the umlaut vowel)
Anyone researching their German ancestry has experienced the frustration of the proverbial brick wall. Perhaps the following will help some break through.
As most of us know it is probably harder to research family in Germany than anyother country. Face the facts. Germany was an undivided nation from 1871 to 1945, only 74 years.In the 17th and 18th centuries what we now consider Germany consisted of 1789 kingdoms, principalities,grand duchies,dukedoms,electorates,and free cities, right down to tiny personal estates. Although census were taken in Germany in 1871,they did not really cover all of Germany. For example, Wuertenbuerg had census as early as 1821, Prussia in 1831 and so on. The only centralizing force in the Germanic area wha the church, first the Catholic and then Lutheran.
Germany was only unified for a short period that ended in 1945.During that time little or no attempt was made to centralize records in one place, instead they remained in capitol cities of the original states. Therefore, even though your roots are German, your ancestors may have roots in other parts of Europe. Tens of thousands settled in Ukraine and the Volga Basin area, others in Transylvania (Hungary until 1919 and Romania since) and more in Hungary and Yugoslavia. Nearly 4 million Germans settled in Czechoslovakia but were expelled by force after WWII.
Today (since the unification of Germany in 1990) the districts of Germany were replaced by five original provinces or Laender) They are (with their capitol cities):
(Those marked with * are the ne political divisions of the Old East Germany which replace the 15 districts. The names of these Bezirkes within each of the five provinces are:
Brandenburg: Berlin, Cottbus, Frankfurt, Potsdam
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern: Neubrandenburg, Rostock, Schwerin
Sachsen: Dresden, Karl-Marz-Stad (now referred to Chenitz), Leipzig
Sachsen-Anhalt: Halle, Magdeburg
Thuergingen: Erfurt, Gera Suhl
By now I'm sure you are totally confused, but don't be discouraged. There is still lots of hope. You just need to take the time to find out the location of your family and then head for the churches. See my journal : German records in local Churches.
I hope this helps someone narrow down that missing conneciton.
I have now posted the scanned pages as well as a large print version on my website. Here is the direct page link. Hope this helps some.
From "SKETCHES OF THE BOZEMAN FAMILY" by Loraine Bozeman Walker. 1956.
This is a continuation of the work by the Reverend Joseph W, BOZEMAN, D.D. to 1885.
The BOZEMAN Family in the United States
Howell BOZEMAN, 1780
Meady BOZEMAN, Jr.m 1784-1857
Luke BOZEMAN, abt. 1791
Colonel John BOZEMAN, 1793-1848
Sally BOZEMAN, 1795 - 1835
James BOZEMAN, 1796 - 1843
Nancy BOZEMAN, 1785
Elizabeth BOZEMAN, 1799 - 1823
Meady BOZEMAN, Sr., 1745 - 1809
"In 1985, the Rev. Joseph Woodruff Bozeman, E.E., while pastor o fthe First Baptist Church of Meridian, Mississippi, completed a family history of the Bozeman Family in the United States." Rev. Bozeman was born in Lowndes County, Alabama on 1 Nov. 1833.
He was a noted educator and preacher until his death about 1900. According to is research the first BOZEMAN immigrant came from Holland or Germany about 1650, and settled either in New York or Maryland.
"There were a number of BOZEMANs in the USA duuring the time of the Revolutionary War who fought and served with the Continental Armies." This is substantiated, according to this volume, by substantial records from Halifax, Chowan, Washington, Bladen and Columbus Counties of North Carolina, 1756.
Rev. Joseph Woodruff BOZEMAN presents an unbroken chain of this family back to 1730 when Samuel BOZEMAN was born in Bladen County, North Carolina in 1750. He married Ann RICHARDSON and they had nine (9) children.
Joseph BOZEMAN (oldest of Samuel and Ann) married Miss Wood in 1784 and their son Nathan BOZEMAN was the father of a celebrated surgeon Dr. Nathan BOZEMAN of New York.
PRESENTED WITH PERMISSION 1999
I will be scanning this book in its entirety over the next few weeks and will post a link to the pages asap. Meanwhile, if you need info that may appear in this volume, please contact me and I will be glad to do a lookup.
When searching for German Ancestors it is important to remember the history of the German contry and people. (Refer to my journal :Finding Records of German Ancestors).
We are lucky that the Churches of Germany kept records. Keep in mind that it was common practice in the 1700's to use only the second baptismal name in official records later in life. The first name was that of a parent or grandparent and was given as a compliment, but never used officially so Johannes Georg Weber would appear only as Georg Weber.
Before delving into a particular church's records, it is important to understand the organization and archival policies of the various churches.
The Evangelical Church (Evengelische Kirche in Deutschland)
This is a union of independent territorial Lutheran, Reformed, and United churches and the various secitons are not officially unified, but are in close cooperation. There are eight United Evangelical Churches: five more are members of the World Federation of Lutheran Churches: others belong to the Evangelical Lutheran Church; and others to the Federation of Reformed Churches, the two branches of the Moravian Church, and other independent sects. To get addresses (they change all the time) check the Evangelical Lutheran Church web site at www.velkd.de.
German Lutheran Churches in Memel. Although the registers for the area churches disappeared after 1945, it is probable that the records are now in the State Parish Register Archives of Lithuania. The parishes concerned are: Coadjuthen, Dawillan, Crottingen, Heydekrug, Kairinn, Karkelbeck, Kinten, Laugszargen, Mattkischken, Nidden, Paleiten, Pasziesen,Piktopen, Plaschken, Plicken, Prokuls, ramutten, Rucken, Russ, Saugen, Schwarzort, Szugen, Wannagen, Wieszen and Wischwil.
Evangelical Churches in East Prussia (Ostpreussen)
Prior to the invasion of the Red Army the parish registers were moved to West Berlin. This move included the Kirchenbuecher (church books) from about 500 parishes.The are located in the Central Archivves of the Evangelical Church. Due to the war it is not surprising that there are some missing records and gaps in others but if you had ancestors that were Evangelical and from east Prussia, you may want to contact the Central Archives. There are over 6,800 books involves, so be as specific as possible with your request. You may also want to ask about the possibility of Kirchenbuechduplikate, duplicates of records sent each year to the nearest headquarters of a particular church.
The Catholic Church
Organized under each archbishop in ecclesiastical provinces and local parishes the Catholic Church in germany has twenty-seven (27) archives. These have parish registers, confirmation and communion records. In many cases there are also family books which were first admitted in about 1614 and include full details of each family in the parish with names of servants and occupation of the head of the house. These were in Latin and German and are more complete in some areas than others. The division of Germany after WWII, and the reunification in 1990 did not affect the boundaries of the various dioceses.
Look to the nearest large city near your relative for the records of that area. Use any good map to figure this out after you cross reference to discover any name changes.
It is impossible to address all options here, but I hope this will help some of you resume your search for your German ancestors. Please remember that you will need to include a return/postage paid envelope with any request and that due to the large number of remaining records, PLEASE be as detailed and specific as possible.
I hope this helps.
I am trying to discover information on the family of my first husband, Richard Eugene Scott 1953 - 1978. His mother, Margaret L Gueisendorff (or Geisendorff) married Virgil Eugene Scott. Her parents, I met them once in 1972, Were Richard and Maggie Gueisendorff. I also recall she had a sister Sharon and a cousin Richard.
Virgil died about 1985 and although I believe Margaret has passed on, I cannot find anything on her, yet.
Because I have two sons, Ricky and David Scott, and a grandson, Jackson Scott, from this line, I would really like to include at least a few generations for the future generations.
My husband had a sister and three brothers. Christine Scott m- Dudley with son Mark Dudley. Patrick Dale Scott - deceased, Rex Barry Scott - deceased, Michael Scott last known to be married with 2 children in Alaska, in the US Air Force I believe.
ANY information would help.
Looking for my mother's gggrandparents and back.
Clara Hedwig Wihelmine HENGESBACH 1846 - ? married Emil Theodore ELSCHNER 1869 in Dommitzsch, Germany.
her father was Johann HENGESBACH 1797 - 1896 Siedlinghausen, Germany, son of Henrich HENGESBACH 1780-1862 and Regina RITTER (or RIDDER or RIFFER)1779 - 1857 son of Casper HENGESBACH 1745 - ? and Gertrude RICKERS abt 1750.
all from Germany in Siedlinghausen.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Recently at the request of my former brother-in-law, I began researching his family line. Although he is no longer 'officially' a member of our family due to divorce, he will always be integrated through the child he fathered with my sister.
Recently this child welcomed a child of his own. Almost 3 months early, she is doing well and growing stronger each day. You are now probably noticing that I have omitted names. This is for the privacy of living members however, I have some ancestors that I can report on from this new avenue of research.
Our 'Jones' is the son of JAMES LINCOLN JONES (1863 - 1957) and HALLIE ROOF (1917-1977), the daughter of JOHN R ROOF and DELPHA COATES.
Delpha Coates (1900-1971) is the daughter of THOMAS C. COATES and PHOEBE A. STURGEON.
Thomas C. Coates(1852 - ???) is the son of SIMEON COATES and SARAH ELIZABETH ???.
The mother of John R Roof (1890-1955) is HARRIET FRANCES DAVIS (1866-1922).
Harriet Frances Davis is the daughter of JOHN WHITE DAVIS (1842 - 1909) and MARY ANN HAZELIP (1841 - 1904)
and Here the wall emerges. If you have any information that can help me move through this family line, it would be appreciated.
Meanwhile, back to the research.
If you haven't visited my Family Genealogy site yet, you are welcome to drop in and see what has been added, including the new section, MyTrees which I am building to include the majority of results I have gathered in my research. Grab a free gift while you are there and you can also access the documents I have uploaded, such as the BOZEMAN family tree book.