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I'm seeking any information on Lizbeth (sp) and Allec (sp) Zam. My grandfather Joseph Zam arrived to Wellington in 1916 with his sister Lizbeth - probably came via Scotland from Theodosia in Russia (now part of the Ukraine). They were both tailors and Joseph had a suit and uniform factory in central Auckland. He passed away in 1959. What I was told by my grandmother was that Joseph's sister married a Jack (Jacob?) Mann and they removed to Australia where they had two daughters, Nita and Freda. I have no information on Allec except he may also have lived in Australia for a time. And no leads on the Manns. Spelling of my great-aunt's name could be Lizbeth, Lizbet, Lispeth, Lizabet. Who knows - I've tried them all and turned up nothing!
Allen Norman Young born 1920, died in 1942 a casualty of WWII.
Son of Thomas Young and Julia Mary Young (nee King).
Known siblings of Allen: Thomas Joseph Young (b 1911),Leslie John Young, (1913-1995) Colin, Nola and Esma.
Family lived in Manurewa, Auckland, New Zealand.
Father Thomas (Tom) Young's parents Elizabeth and Thomas Young.
Known siblings of father Tom Young: Jane Anne Rowe (Ann Young) 1892-1976,Joseph Henry (Joe)Young 1890-1931, Mary Flannagan (Mary Young), Elizabeth Teward/Barnett (Elizabeth Young) Jack Young, Bill Young.
Elizabeth Teward/Barnett was my great-grandmother. Tom Young and his siblings my great-great-uncles and aunts.
The only record I have found of a Thomas and Elizabeth Young arriving to New Zealand:
Queen of the Mersey
Ship: 1227 Tons
Departed London July 3rd 1862 - arrived Lyttelton October 19th 1862
Young, Thomas 27 Berwickshire Farm Labourer
Young, Elizabeth 21
If this is the right record they probably came from Berwick-On-Tweed in Northumberland, Britain. They had no children when they arrived to New Zealand.
Births of all the children that were born to a Thomas and Elizabeth Young in the entire NZ records:
1873/41936 Young, Adam - Parents Elizabeth Thomas
1864/14787 Young, David - Parents Elizabeth Thomas
1863/15030 Young, John - Parents Elizabeth Thomas
1870/31655 Young, Eupheure - Parents Elizabeth Thomas
1868/28872 Young, Catherine - Parents Elizabeth Thomas
1878/14669 Young, Thomas - Parents Elizabeth Thomas
1890/7166 Young, Henry Joseph (should be Joseph Henry(Joe) - Parents Elizabeth Thomas
1892/14365 Young, Jane Ann (Ann)- Parents Elizabeth Thomas
I know it's not unusual for families of that time to have many children over up to a thirty year period or more - but most of these names, excepting the last three make no matches with the family tree as remembered by my grandmother, and no corresponding records to be found such as marriage, death etc. I am taking into consideration middle names, being used as forenames, or "nicknames", or just basic errors (I've already found one above with Joseph Henry). At this time I can't tell and Young is not exactly an easy name to narrow down!
Please contact me if you have any further family tree info or can make any connections.