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Clan/Family Histories - Thomson/Thompson/Thomas/McTavish/MacThomas

"We're all Jock Tamson's bairns" suggests not only that we are all God's children and in the same boat, but that there are lots of Thomsons around. And indeed "son of Thom" has only recently dropped from 3rd to 4th place in the league of most common surnames in Scotland at the General Register Office in 1995. Thomson (without the 'p') is the most frequent spelling in Scotland; Thompson is found more in the North of England and Thomas in Wales.

The name is found most in central Scotland - there was a John Thomson in Ayrshire in 1318 who led part of Edward Bruce's invading army in Ireland on behalf of Robert the Bruce. There are Gaelic equivalents in MacTavish (son of Tammas) and McCombie (son of Tommy) and MacLehose is from the Gaelic 'mac gille Thoimis" or son of St Thomas.

Clan MacThomas was descended from Clan Chattan Mackintoshes and was based initially in Glenshee. The MacThomases supported King Charles I and the Marquis of Montrose but after the defeat of Montrose at the Battle of Philiphaugh, the chief withdrew his men and extended his influence into Glen Prosen and Strathardle. The chief approved of the stable government brought about by Oliver Cromwell and the Commonwealth. Consequently, after the Restoration of King Charles II the MacThomas fortunes declined and the clan drifted apart - some clansmen moving to the Lowlands and changing their name to Thomson or Thomas.

James Thomson (1700-1748) was a poet who wrote "The Seasons" which is regarded as a classic of English literature but is best remembered now for writing "Rule Britannia". Alexander "Greek" Thomson was a 19th century architect of note who is becoming more recognised at the end of the 20th. Robert William Thomson invented the pneumatic tyre in December 1845 and scientist and inventor William Thomson, though born in Belfast, became associated with Glasgow University and became Lord Kelvin. He gave his name to the measurement of temperature "Kelvin".

Clan McThomas, which is the only variant of the name recognised by the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs, has a motto "Deo iuvante invidiam superabo" - I will overcome envy with God's help".

There are Clan MacTavish/Thompson web sites here and here.

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County Wicklow Ireland Census Records & Substitutes

A government census was taken of the all of Ireland in the years 1821~1831~1841~1851~1861~1871~1881~1891~1901 and 1911. Unfortunatly 1821~1831~1841 and 1851 were almost compleetly destroyed in 1922 in a fire at the P.R.O. (Public Record Office). Even worse the census records for the years 1861~1871~1881 and 1891 were completely destroyed earlier, by government order.

What this means is that the earliest surviving compleet census records are for 1901 and 1911. The original 1901 and 1911 Census can be consulted at the National Archives of Ireland. A microfilm copy of the 1901 census is available at the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City or at a LDS Family history Center.

Wicklow Census Substitutes

1641 ~ Book of Survey and Distribution. Available at the National Library of Ireland.

1669 ~ Hearth Money Roll. Available at the National Archives of Ireland.

1745 ~ Poll Book. Avalable at the Public Records Office Northern Ireland.

1746 ~ List Of Wicklow Ireland Noblemen. On Line At Ancestors At Rest.Com

1766 ~ Parishes of Drumkay, Dunganstown, Kilpoole, Rathdrum, Rathnew. Available at the Wicklow Heritage Centre.

1798 ~ Persons who suffered losses in the 1798 rebellion. Available at the National Library of Ireland.

1823,37 ~ Tithe Books. The Tithe Applotment books were compiled between 1823 and 1837 in order to determine the amount which occupiers of agricultural holdings should pay in tithes to the Church of Ireland. There is a manuscript book for almost every parish, giving the names of occupiers, the amount of land held, and the sums to be paid in tithes. There are copies in the National Archives of Ireland.

1842,48 ~ Emigrants list. Available at the National Library of Ireland.

1852,53 ~ The Primary Valuation (also known as Griffith's Valuation) was published between 1847 and 1864. There is a printed valuation book for each barony or poor law union, showing the names of occupiers of land and buildings, the names of persons from whom these were leased, and the amount and value of the property held. These records are now available on microfiche at the National Archives of Ireland.

do you know how tall Viking where ????

"The examination of skeletons from different localities in Scandinavia reveals that the average height of the Vikings was a little less than that of today: men were about 5 ft 7-3/4 in. tall and women 5 ft 2-1/2 in. The most extensive recent anthropological study was carried out in Denmark, but the situation must have been similar elsewhere. Skeletons of people as tall as 6 ft 1/2 in. have been found, and those in richly furnished Viking graves - belonging to high- ranking people - were on average considerably taller than those in the more ordinary graves, undoubtedly because of better living conditions. A double grave on Langeland in Denmark contained two adult males, typically, the smaller one had been decapitated, and had probably had his hands tied behind his back, while the other was interred with his spear in the normal fashion - obviously a case of a slave (measuring 5 ft 7-1/4 in.) who had to accompany his master (5 ft 9-3/4 in.) in death. However, the skeleton found in Jelling church, thought to be that of King Gorm of Denmark (later known as Gorm the Old), was only of average height. This man was 5 ft 7-3/4 in. tall, with heavy, robust features, but not heavily built."

Douglas Thompson of Fitzwilliam N.H.

Hello Thompson's, I am Douglas Thompson
My Family was from Fitzwilliam N.H. 1960's - Date
some in Florida . Thompson is a Viking name ,N.W. Europe at the last Ice age or the (the Last Glacial Maximum) People must remember that the Ice Age (the Last Glacial Maximum) muddied the waters when it comes to developing an entirely orderly evolution within our Haplotype.On the Roche side of my Family is Haplogroup R, spawned R1a, R1b, and Rb2. R1b, before the Ice Age, is thought to have existed in four regional variants :

Russian-Baltic
North-Sea Baltic
Alpine-South German, and
Atlantic
In Europe, R1b was thought to have entered from the east as pre-historic hunter-gatherers. They migrated along rivers, coastlines and high ground to the Baltic, Med and Atlantic. All were thought to have lived originally in Russia near the Volga River, migrating in two tranches, west to the Russian-Baltic area and southwest to the Black Sea and South Germany.
A Haplogroup is a population of varying size descended from a common ancestor, as evidenced by specific mutations. Haplogroups are NOT cultural, although a haplogroup can be strongly represented by a cultural population.

Starting with myself hear are 5 gen.Back Douglas John < John Willy < Harry < Samuel < Abraham

Douglas Thompson

fitzwilliam n.h. thompsons

Looking for Thompson's Herbie e. Thompson st.Augasine Fl., Lilly Thompson , George Thompson, Phillis Thompson Sabastain,Jannice Thompson All Brothr's of my Father John Willie Thompson Born in Whitingsville mass.
Thank you all if you have info.
Douglas Thompson
cell 904-662-1943 24-7

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fitzwilliam n.h. thompsons

Looking for Thompson's Herbie e. Thompson st.Augasine Fl., Lilly Thompson , George Thompson, Phillis Thompson Sabastain,Jannice Thompson All Brothr's of my Father John Willie Thompson Born in Whitingsville mass.
Thank you all if you have info.
Douglas Thompson
Jaxcskonville Florida U.S.A.
cell 904-662-1943 24-7
Also looking for Roche's present or past if you can help call me
the name in the Roche family are all in my family tree at (my heretige)
under thompson(douglas john-1965)=thompson,s are also in it!

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FITZWILLIAM N.H. U.S.A. IN 1776

Fitzwilliam was a small town in the years leading up to the Revolutionary War, its population was only 250 in 1774, but those 250 residents were committed to supporting the rebel cause. When news of the battles at Lexington and Concord reached Fitzwilliam in April 1775, the town was ready to mobilize its militia and join the fight. In May 1775, the New Hampshire Provincial Congress voted to raise a 2,000 man army and help their fellow patriots in the war for freedom.The 2,000 man army was split in to three regiments with the 2nd Regiment being commanded by Fitzwilliam's own Colonel James Reed.

James Reed was the second person, and the only one of the original proprietors to settle in Monadnock No. 4. In 1755, during the French and Indian War, he was an officer in the army and received the commission of Lieutenant Colonel. Then, at fifty, he served in the army during the Revolutionary war. After he heard about the battles at Lexington and Concord, Reed raised a Company of volunteers and marched them to Medford. He continued to enlist more volunteers, many from Cheshire County, and soon had four companies under his command. The New Hampshire Provisional Assembly even appointed Reed Colonel of a regiment in 1775. He became known as General Reed later in the War when he was appointed a brigadier- general. However, during the war he was sick much of the time and end up almost blind, forcing him to retire from active duty before the end of the Revolution. He later died in Fitchburg.