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I have Fancis Meakins 1803 - 6 married to Lettice 1808 -11 (maiden name not known). I don't know when they were married, it woulf be about 1829. They had 6 children bewteen 1830 and 1850, one being Henry Makings, who I written about previously.

1841 census Meakins
1851 census Makins
1861 census Makings
1871 census Meakings and Makings

I believe Francis's father is Robert Makings (or similar spelling) 1761 born in Stanton. I do not know the name of his wife or when they got married.

How do you search for persons born before 1800's? I can only find family search web site, but this is not complete yet and doesn't contain the persons I am looking for.

Can any one help?

Regards

Stephen Smith

I have found Charles and Hannah Smith marriage in Maccelesfield Jun 1852. In the 1861 Census There are three children listed Thomas (1848), Mary (1855) and George (1851). I do not believe that Hannah is the mother of Thomas.

In the 1851 Census Charles (1822) and Thomas (1848) are living with George & Sarah Beath and their daughter Ann, also living in the same houshold are Thomas Lowe, John Rothwell, Francis Wilshaw and William Wilshaw.

Could Charles and Thomas be brothers?

Could their parents have died, if so wasn't their any family they could have lived with?

How can I find out their parents names?

Stephen Smith

Many thanks to Boru, just the key to inlocking my family tree.

Albert (1865) and Ada Sturgess (1866) were married in Oldham, registered Sep 1885. Albert was born in Mscclesfield and Ada in Cheadle Staffs.

In 1891 or there abouts they moved to Salford, Gertrude birth was registerd in Chorlton in Sep 1890. Bernard birth was registed in Oldham in Jun 1896, Arthur birth was registed in Salford in Dec 1891. My Grand father, Edward was born in Ardwick, registered in Chorlton Jun 1902. I should know his date of birth, but can't put my hand on it at present.

In 1881 Albert was living with his sister, Mary 1856 and her husband Frederick Lees 1857 with brother George 1861 and Sarah 1869. Alberts father Charles 1822 died in 1874. I do not know eher his mother Hannah 1834, I can't find any record of her death. May be she was in a home.

Stephen Smith

I'd like to recognise the help recieved from Julie Reagan who provided details of my ancestor for the Irving family.

My grand mother Hilda Irving was born 1901, she had 5 sisters and 2 brothers Ada 1892, William McDonald 1893, Jessie 1897, Nellie 1898, Lillian 1903 and Frederick 1913.

Hilda's mother and father are William McDonald 1869 born in Liverpool and Georgina Gleadell 06/02/1869 born in Salford. William had a brother Robert 1865 and sister Ada 1873.

Williams parents are Robert McGuffick 11/01/1838 born in Treggiles and Elizabeth Jane Tollitt 06/02/1845. Robert had 3 brothers and two sisters.

Roberts parents are John 1813 born in Ruthwell and Jane McGuffie 1817. John had 6 brothers and 3 sisters.

Johns parents are David 1788 born in Ruthwell and Elizabeth Hall 1802.

Irving is a popular name in Scotland and it is hard to trace ancestors in Scotland. Does any one know how I can trace earlier Irvings?

Stephen Smith

My grand mother is Elsie Makings born 16/07/1900, she was one of many children which all had middle names, Elsie didn't. She is the daughter of Samuel 1858 and Sarah Ann Brown 1860.

Samual and Sarah were married in 1881, registered Mar 1881 in Basford, Notts. Samual had a Brother James Henry 1863 who married Annie Maria Hodgkinson in 1884. I do not know all the children they had but I have listings for births of Makings in Nottingham in addition to children of Samuel. Samuel also had a sister Fanny Maria 1856.

Samuel's parents are Henry 1833, he married Betsy Cooper nee Berrington (1827) on 23/10/1856. Betsy was previously married to Joseph in 1847 and they had a daughter Ruth born in 1853. In 1881 census they have listed a Edith Annie Severn as grand daughter. I believe this is a daughter of Fanny.

I have found that Henry's parents are Francis (1805) and Lettice (1811), they married in Nrton Suffolk on 15 January 1830. The had 6 children (including Henry), Susan 1830, Henry 1833, Sarah 1837, George 1840, Jemima 1843 and Anna 1850.

I have found that that the surnames changed and some birth years changed between cencus. In 1841 Francis 1806 and Lettice 1811 surname as Meakins. In 1851 Francis 1803 and Lettice 1808 surname Makins. In 1861 Francis 1805 and Lettice 1809 surname is Makings. In 1871 Francis 1804 and Lettya 1809 surname as Meakings.

Lettice maiden name is Slebblings.

I believe that Robert Meakins 1761 is the Father of Francis. I do not know the name of Francis mother. I do not know if Francis had any brothers or sisters.

With the surnames changing I am having trouble trying to trace the families of Susan 1830, Sarah 1837, George 1840, Jemima 1843 and Anna 1850.

Any help verifying what I know (or think I know) and information on their ancestors would be appreciated.

Stephen Smith

I am stuck tracing my family tree with my Grandfather Edward Birchenough born in 1902 in Ardwick Manchester. I understand that he had a sister and three brothers, Gertrude, Bernard, Arthur and Thomas. I can find Edward and Thomas on freebmd. I have no idea when his sister or two brothers were born. Nor do I know who their parents are.

From Familysearch;
Edward Birchenough
Born :02 Jul 1902
baptism : St. Silas' Church, Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Parents : Albert Birchenough + Ada

From this information, I have found the rest of Edwards family;

Albert (1865) and Ada Sturgess (1866) were married in Oldham, registered Sep 1885. Albert was born in Mscclesfield and Ada in Cheadle Staffs.

In 1891 or there abouts they moved to Salford, Gertrude birth was registerd in Chorlton in Sep 1890. Bernard birth was registed in Oldham in Jun 1896, Arthur birth was registed in Salford in Dec 1891. My Grand father, Edward was born in Ardwick, registered in Chorlton Jun 1902.

Regards

Stephen Smith