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I wish to draw the attention to " MIRACLES TAKE A LITTLE LONGER"

Hello FTC members . today I started on a request for a new member wanting info on ( 16 surnames ) not one detail was given to assist I took the first name of ALLEN , put it on the world net ( could'nt do anything else that would make sense . UP came the answer = over 4,000,000 = , FTC at this stage has over 90,000 members . If we divide this up , just the first surname , we will over ( 44 ) to do each -- OR -- if I worked on it everyday for a year I would need to turn over Over 10,958 a day . AT this early stage MY Cat " Jasmine " has fainted
( she reads everything ?? can see she might not get fed for a while ) And " old faithful " my other workmate - Computer . said " dont look at me _ I AM out to this one " I am asking all members to have alook at this and any kind suggestions are acceptable . KEEP OFF THE HARD STUFF !!!!! I will ask for my details . what do you think her answer will be ??????????? regards to all edmondsallan

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International Research on DNA

Hello to all . If you wish to get some great background and history on DNA researching may I recommmend an article put on line by the editor of " FINFACTS " web address = http://www.finfacts.com/irishfinancenews/article_10009121.shtml. Their is ( ii pages )

Shortly , ( 4 ) friends ( IQG') will be up dating our reference folders in the east coast of the united states and also parts of italy

Have you tried the New = familysearch.org website = 15,000,000 updated names and places etc I have found after using the new site for nearly a year It has a lot going for it - O k till we meet again Regards edmonds allan

HOLIDAY IS OVER -from edmonds allan & " old faithful "

hello to all . had a great break AT PARIKI . BEAUTIFUL WHITE SAND AND RUGGED surf . My daughter was back home from LONDON with her first child A beautiful grand daughter . I called the Personal family ( 30 )in to have get together and some of the other children to see what their eldest ancestor looks like i got lots of hugs and told them all a few stories on the edmonds clan . we all had a great time and my daughter shed a few tears at the welcome she and hubby recieved . Somethings are just so simple to do . and make this world a beautiful place . Ok I wish to thank my assistans ( including "Old faithful " for looking after everything . What a great team they are . Give me a day or two to build up steam and once again we will do our best to assist FTC members in many ways and also my other work internationally . Great to be back !!!! come on Ed - up and at it !!!! regards to all allan edmonds

Canadian Research

Hello to all members . The following may assist FTC members . My ( 4 ) colleuges and my self have just finished after 4 months doing a deep research of the " Canadian Chronicles " and Canada itself . we have found some ancestral knowledge we may be able to assist FTC members with . some of it includes Ancestral trails of Canada / England / united states / France I am un able to answer by the comment section . and lately, over the last 6 weeks , my Journals are not getting onto the ancestral board ( they being held in " Pending Preview " ) However if you wish you can contact me. use our FTC private message system and I will get back to you . I am still assisting FTC members in their research , from 7 am to lpm , 6 days a week and sending them the results by email as our message system is not mean't for that sort of volume reply. This month , at the ancestral hard face . I have been able to assist with deep research ( 43 ) and now they asking for more assistance with some of their other ancestral searchings. One was a beauty , we got back to 1180 in france . our FTC member was so pleased and grateful . great to see how happy it made her . I close hoping this will go onto the board to assist others - regards edmondsallan

LIEUTENANT EDMONDS- Royal navy - b-1768 england

Amongst our private family collection we have many stories ( especially on any one in our clan mentioned for bravery - etc )as well as ancestral detail . Here is a story on
" Lieutentant Edmonds , commander of the Royal navy ship " HMS- ASP " in 1798 . His mission , with also another navy Vessel " HMS Wolvereene " was to assist , 1100 infantry land on the port of Ostend Belgium and if possible stop the French Guns from firing on the british infantry . Their purpose was to land at Ostend - Belgium - destroy the sluice gates at , Bruges canal Locks . These sluice gates controlled and allowed vessels to be transported from the North sea to the Belgium Coast without passing through the English channel . Napoleon's invasion of Briton forces were estimated to 2000 vessels - and 200,000 troops . Lieutenant Edmonds was successful in completeing the mission however the losses were terrific . Napoleon did not invade Briton because of this action that destroyed the sluice gates at Ostend .Lt' Edmonds was wounded in this action and was mentioned in despatches on his bravery . We also had another Edmonds that was honoured with medals for bravery . however that is another story .

Till we meet again - Regards - edmondsallan

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" ARNOLD 'S " Burial Records , Waitakere city - NZ

I have compiled this list from the online records at Waikumete cemetery , Waitakere city NZ on the
" ARNOLDS " to assist any one who may be researching for information on their " Arnold Ancestors " From
- 1893 --to-- 2008 in NZ
M/F Surname Forenames Age Year Of Death

Male ARNOLD ALBERT 52 1929
Male ARNOLD ALBERT 1981
Male ARNOLD ALFRED GEORGE 80 1971
Male ARNOLD ALFRED JASPER 65 1910
Male ARNOLD ALFRED N. 0 1891
Female ARNOLD ANNIE FLORENCE 64 1942
Male ARNOLD BARRY ERNEST 68 2007
Female ARNOLD BEATRICE EMMELINE 75 1969
Male ARNOLD BERNARD PHILIP 65 1977
Male ARNOLD BRUCE RIDDETT 61 2010
Female ARNOLD CAROL MARGARET 45 1985
Male ARNOLD CHARLES DOUGLAS WILLOUGHBY 83 1959
Male ARNOLD CHARLES LE NEVE 99 1955
Female ARNOLD CHARLOTTE PHILADELPHIA

Male ARNOLD David 2006
Male ARNOLD DAVID ARCHER 52 1958
Male ARNOLD DAVID GEORGE 80 2009
Female ARNOLD DOROTHY NINA 77 1972
Male ARNOLD DOUGLAS NICHOLAS 54 1969
Female ARNOLD EDITH 77 1985
Female ARNOLD EDNA MARGARET (KEMP) 78 2007
Male ARNOLD ERIC 80 1997
Male ARNOLD ERNEST 47 1943
Male ARNOLD ERNEST HARRY 72 1980
Male ARNOLD ERNEST WALTER 22 1937
Female ARNOLD EVANGELINE EMILY 79 1966
Male ARNOLD EVERARD WALTER 63 1987
Female ARNOLD FLORA


M/F Surname Forenames Age Year Of Death
Male ARNOLD FRANK 1988
Male ARNOLD FREDERICK ARNOLD 68 1966
Male ARNOLD GEORGE 83 1950
Male ARNOLD GEORGE JOSEPH 87 1975
Female ARNOLD GLADYS GWAVAS 88 2006
Female ARNOLD GLADYS VERA 0 1893
Male ARNOLD HAROLD 76 1962
Male ARNOLD HAROLD HORACE 84 1984
Male ARNOLD HAROLD THOMAS 67 1981
Female ARNOLD HEATHER ELIZABETH 0 1916
Male ARNOLD HORACE WALPOLE 65 1948
Female ARNOLD IVY IRENE HANNAH 79 1975
Male ARNOLD JAMES 87 1944
Male ARNOLD JAMES WILLIAM

Male ARNOLD JOHN DAVID 44 1994
Female ARNOLD KATHERINE 55 1933
Female ARNOLD KATHLEEN EDITH ELEANOR AGNES 81 2005
Male ARNOLD KEVIN MICHAEL 18 1972
Male ARNOLD KEVON ROSS 59 2008
Male ARNOLD LEO CLEMENTS 76 1999
Male ARNOLD LEONARD ALFRED 50 1973
Female ARNOLD LEONIE ANNE 60 2005
Male ARNOLD LESLIE HENRY 72 1992
Male ARNOLD LEWIS HAINES 68 1983
Female ARNOLD LILIAN MARGARET 54 1995
Female ARNOLD LUCIE RAIHA 61 1977
Female ARNOLD MARGARET 85 1990
Female ARNOLD MARGARET ANN 63 1999


M/F Surname Forenames Age Year Of Death
Male ARNOLD MARK DORION 39 2008
Female ARNOLD MINNIE 72 1952
Female ARNOLD OLIVE MAY 95 1993
Female ARNOLD PAMELA 82 2008
Female ARNOLD PAMELA OLIVE 82 2008
Female ARNOLD PATRICIA MARY 48 1984
Female ARNOLD PAULA 88 2008
Male ARNOLD PERCY FRANKHAM 81 1948
Male ARNOLD RALPH 0 1905
Male ARNOLD RAPLH JOSLING 45 1932
Male ARNOLD REGINALD 55 1955
Female ARNOLD RENEE MARGARET 2003
Male ARNOLD ROY LINDSAY 47 1963
Female ARNOLD SARAH ANN 71 1933

Female ARNOLD SHIRLEY ROSEMARY 69 1993
Male ARNOLD STANLEY 65 1971
Male ARNOLD THOMAS NAYSMITH 57 1939
Male ARNOLD THOMAS NEIL 57 1978
Female ARNOLD VIDA COCHRANE 44 1939
Male ARNOLD WALTER 78 1953
Male ARNOLD WALTER JOHN 70 1937
Male ARNOLD WALTER MATTHEW 0 1915
Male ARNOLD WILLIAM ARCHIBALD 64 1968
Male ARNOLD WILLIAM ARCHIBALD 79 1929
Male ARNOLD WILLIAM ROY 78 1970
Female ARNOLD WINIFRED BEATRICE 91 1987
Male ARNOLDSON LOUIS 63 1933
Male ARNOLDT GERALD 0 1900

Female ARNOLD SHIRLEY ROSEMARY 69 1993
Male ARNOLD STANLEY 65 1971
Male ARNOLD THOMAS NAYSMITH 57 1939
Male ARNOLD THOMAS NEIL 57 1978
Female ARNOLD VIDA COCHRANE 44 1939
Male ARNOLD WALTER 78 1953
Male ARNOLD WALTER JOHN 70 1937
Male ARNOLD WALTER MATTHEW 0 1915
Male ARNOLD WILLIAM ARCHIBALD 64 1968
Male ARNOLD WILLIAM ARCHIBALD 79 1929
Male ARNOLD WILLIAM ROY 78 1970
Female ARNOLD WINIFRED BEATRICE 91 1987
Male ARNOLDSON LOUIS 63 1933
Male ARNOLDT GERALD 0 1900

Till we meet again - Regards - edmondsallan

Early settlers in Ragland , Waikato .NZ

source: -waikato early history - This Journal is a story in brief, of three brothers who came to NZ from Scotland . Some one out there in the Waikato or some where else may be a relative. The early scotch emmigrants were exceptionally hard working people and usually got moving very quickly .

They were the "Stewart " brothers . John , Robert , Thomas . They were born in Rothesay on the Isle of Butt
off Scotland's West coast during the 1820's. Their father was a sea captain of a fishing vessel and at an early age his sons were put to hard work to assist the family make a living The brothers decided to emigrate to New Zealand while still in their twenties . They arrived in Ragland on the west coast of the waikato area , which of interest was then called " Whaingaroa " where a maori settlement had been established over -800 years - before. the first white people there were Wesleyan missionaries.
The " Stewart " brothers soon started making life's for themselves and took up many new challenges.
John - started surveying land thro out NZ on behalf of the New Zealand Government. various roads , bridges , railway lines were constructed under his supervision and when he retired in 1889 , he still took up many public duties in his home town of Wanganui. NZ, Robert became a magistrate and Thomas worked as a labourer around the Waikato and Auckland . John died in 1914 , out living his other two brothers who were both buried in 1902 Thomas the youngest was the first to die and is buried in Waikumete Cemetery in the Presbyterian section . In RAGLAND - Waikato - NZ a street still remains named after them to
commemorate them being one of the early settlers in that area of NZ

Till we meet again - Regards - edmondsallan

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Waikumete Cemetery Records - Waitakere city - For " EDMONDS"

Compiled from the Waikumete Cemetery records on Line- to assist others researching Death Records of the
67 " EDMONDS " ancestry in NZ. When I researched this cemetery, I found 13 of the earlier deaths of the Edmonds had been buried in 2 graves . This was not unusual in the earlier days.

We also have " Edmonds"
still buried in Symond st Cemetery .and other cemeteries in Auckland Nz

M/F Surname Forenames Age Year Of Death

Female EDMONDS AGNES 42 1908
Male EDMONDS ALBERT 77 1990
Male EDMONDS ALEXANDER 79 1949
Male EDMONDS ALFRED JOHN 40 1941
Male EDMONDS ALFRED JOHN 76 1931
Female EDMONDS ALICE MAY 67 1967
Male EDMONDS ARTHUR CHARLES 67 1977
Male EDMONDS ARTHUR ROBERT 91 2010
EDMONDS BABY 0 1941
Male EDMONDS CECIL TUCKER 37 1950
Female EDMONDS CHARMAIN ANN ISOBEL 53 2003
Female EDMONDS CONSTANCE HARRIET ANNIE 95 1967
Female EDMONDS DAISY HELEN 80 1966
Male EDMONDS DESMOND HIRA 48 1992
Total Records : 67
M/F Surname Forenames Age Year Of Death
Female EDMONDS DORA ELIZABETH MARY 77 1965
Male EDMONDS EDWARD HUGH 65 1953
Female EDMONDS ELLEN 92 1990
Female EDMONDS ELLEN 67 1938
Female EDMONDS EMILY EDITH 65 1940
Female EDMONDS EMMA ISABEL VICTORIA 74 1970
Female EDMONDS EMMELINE MARIE 89 1910
Male EDMONDS ERNEST JAMES 84 1965
Female EDMONDS FLORA ROSE 54 1929
Female EDMONDS FLORENCE 44 1936
Male EDMONDS FREDERICK GEORGE 68 1944
Male EDMONDS FREDERICK JAMES 84 1992
Male EDMONDS GEORGE ARTHUR 83 1955
Male EDMONDS GEORGE FREDERICK 56 1948
Male EDMONDS HENRY AUGUSTUS 82 1946
Male EDMONDS HOWARD MILSON WHITE 71 1971
Female EDMONDS ISABEL JANE 26 1936
Male EDMONDS JAMES GEORGE 81 1987
Male EDMONDS JAMES GRAHAM 22 1962
Male EDMONDS JOHN 85 1988
Male EDMONDS JOSIAH JOHN 73 1953
Female EDMONDS KATHLEEN BERTHA 86 1993
Female EDMONDS LAURA 65 1913
Female EDMONDS LEILA MAUDE 19 1934
Male EDMONDS LEMUEL JOHN 80 1957
Male EDMONDS LLEWELLYN 50 1933
Female EDMONDS LURLINE KATE 75 1959
Female EDMONDS MABEL 51 1943
Female EDMONDS MABEL ISABEL DEVINA 61 1962
Female EDMONDS MARJORIE 74 1987
Female EDMONDS MARTHA 1 1981
Female EDMONDS MARY AGNES 60 1935
Female EDMONDS MARY MATILDA 69 1945
Female EDMONDS MAVIS EMILY 76 1988
Female EDMONDS MAXINE CHARMAINE NEHUPO 56 2009
Male EDMONDS NORMAN 30 1952
Female EDMONDS NORVAL PAULINE 70 1986
Male EDMONDS PATRICK HORACE 54 1969
Male EDMONDS PETER WILLIAM 0 1942
Female EDMONDS RAWINIA 51 2008
Male EDMONDS RICHARD PAHORA 74 1978
Female EDMONDS RITA 66 1986
Male EDMONDS ROBERT MCKEOWN 0 1929
Male EDMONDS RONALD WILLIAM 68 1962
Female EDMONDS ROSA 32 1919
Female EDMONDS ROSE VICTRESS 39 1936
Male EDMONDS SYDNEY ADOLPHUS 50 1930
Male EDMONDS THOMAS ARTHUR 87 2002
Female EDMONDS URANUS JOHANNA 24 1904
Female EDMONDS VIVIEN MAY 78 1988
Male EDMONDS WILLIAM 66 1897
Male EDMONDS WILLIAM ALEXANDER 82 1989
Male EDMONDS WILLIAM JOHN COLE 90 1953

Till we meet again - Regards - edmondsallan

A Short story : South Island - Black ice escapade- 1950

At this very moment at this prime time to go on the net around the world , Jasmine ( our cat -one of them ) whom I usually take for walkies every day Is looking out the window , with me , at the weather . It is raining cats and dogs, the trees are bent over and the wind is icey cold -Reminds me of the days I was working in the back blocks of the Southern Alps , putting in all weather metal roads to the high country .We usually stayed on a the sheep & cattle station themselves while in their area . What great folk the were . They treated us like royalty . They provided Excellent accommodation at their staff quarters , were their staff had a cook etc, the food was out of this world . Wild pork , deer , trout , mutton and beef. I think from memory we actually started to put on the flab , even tho 'we were on contract and worked damn hard On Sundays the the local lads use to take us out shooting at the big game , Deer , accasional Thar . odd goat and definetly the pork for next two weeks for cookie's larder . In the summer it was out of this world working up their in the high country - In the winter You froze and work never stopped . every one just hit the straps and did their best . Many of us became great mates of some of the station staff.
Of interest One very huge station we stayed on was owned by the same family , who lived in England , never came to see their huge station of ( then 280,000 acres ) over four Generations of their family . It was all government lease at a pepper corn rental back then . The other unusual thing was their managers were of the same family for the same time ,They ran it as if they owned it and lived in palatial homesteads provided. I can remember to this day some of their station staff rescueing me One foul winter evening . It had been snowing lightly most of the day and i had remained behind to get things ready for the next day .When you are in this type of country -99 % the experienced ones who know the conditions and country ,look after the green horns ( the likes of us )It is just auto matic - no thanks required They do ( especially in winter ) to agree to a be home time , this is for your own safety . NO one breaks that rule !!! except me who was abit of 24 hr bossy B !!, a rebel , a know all , ( gosh how i have changed to being a very quite oldy poppa to the gran _ kids .
OUR pick ups ( trucks )to carry our tools etc - were internationals with very powerful 6 cylinder work horses and quite often did a 100,000 Miles __ yes miles , before the needed anything major . Any way I was heading back to the station , about an hour or so later than normal , came down this hill hit the
" black ice " and slide out of control a couple thousand yards . missed the little bridge and landed on the vehicle side in some very icey mountain water in this small stream . I couldnt get out and i was thinking of pushing out the front window with my boots . I had been thinking about for a while , but also had condemplated about being exposed to the very freezing weather ,I suppose 1.1/2 hrs had ticked over when next a see a couple of the station work staff knocking on the vehicle , giving me the thumbs up sign . They next ( their were three of them ) next all hooked onto the service wagon and pulled it up the bank onto the paddock with their horses . next the tied a rope onto the door handle and yanked that open with the same moke's!! ,The first thing one of them said to me , Was " have you got a licence mate to drive that thing . hell man it is not that hard to drive down the road and drive over our Bridge . ( nothing like - are you ok - or anything ) they slapped the extra clothing they had with them on me .put me up on behind one the guys on his horse and headed for the Staff Quarters back at the homestead, took about another good hr . Nothing was said as they stripped me bear and put me in the moveable bath by the huge log fire . Cookie was their ( wife of one of the men ) directing operations , grinning all over and scrubbing me hard in that hot water . gradually I started to un thaw . . But the kept me in that bath for sometime adding hot water . They had also plied me with a good amount Rum toddies . Next the men hauled me out of that bath, put heated towells on me for a while then dressed me in some of their winter gear , then into bed . i was not allowed to get up till late next day , my staff had gone to work and were on their way back just as many of the station hands were coming in . Cookie put on a terific meal and we knocked off a bottle or two . Before going to bed the station foreman came over to me and very quitely spoke to me . " He said - " don't ever break the rules in this country mate !!! you can be alive one minute and dead the next . you were lucky this time . By the way one of your boys rang your boss , He sending out another service truck and pick up the banged up one . Now you be back on time tomorrow. cookie hates the the people she is feeding being late for their evening meal , Says it spoils the meat or something . Ok mate . remember what I said . Next day on we went with out work . I cannot recall ever being late again for tea while we were in that area up high in the Southern Alps in NZ. Wonderfull memories ! ok

Till we meet again - Regards - edmonds

The "MAYFLOWER PILGRIMS" -1620

My research into an ancestor has opened and made way for this journal

I have no doubt many Americans know the story of the The Mayflower story and their fight and travel to a foreign land, america to to have their own freedom of thought , religion , and way of life . In reading and compiling this historic event , I thought there are many in the Southern Hemisphere who have no knowledge at all of what I am refering to . Even tho most humans love their own freedom to ( within reason ) think and do things their own way in their daily lives at what ever they may be participating in . I believe this was the drive behind the Mayflower Pilgrims to America. Today one of the great beliefs of its population , is its freedom for all people and their way in general , Providing they are within the laws of the country . In writing this journal , my purpose was to inform many in the southern Hemisphere who may not know , that many of their ancestors could be related to the original
Mayflower Pilgrims who sailed to united states from England to stop being perscecuted. the following material has been compilied from parts of the Wikipedia Encyclopedia which can be refered to by all .
I see they sailed to america in 1620 and established an area they called Plymouth Colony now Massachusetts.
the following is a general list of the passengers from the Wikipedia
Of the passengers, 37 were members of the separatist Leiden congregation seeking freedom of worship in the New World. The Mayflower launched with 102 passengers, as well as at least two dogs, and a crew of 25-30 headed by Captain Christopher Jones. One baby was born during the trip and named Oceanus Hopkins. Another, Peregrine (meaning "wanderer") White, was born on the Mayflower in America on November 20, before the settlement at Plymouth. About half of these emigrants died in the first winter. Many Americans can trace their ancestry back to one or more of these individuals who, 'Saints' and 'Strangers' together, would become known as the Pilgrims.

When we look at the toll it took , in that voyage & 1st winter , to have their freedom we can understand the reasons generally on why we defend our own so .fiercely on many things . In case you wish to see by name if you may be a descenant or before you go into serious research , should you wish. , they have the list available on the net for viewing and more on the wikipedia encyclopedia on the Mayflower
Recently I found out that one of my own Ancestors a Captain Robert Edmunds may be related to one of the original Pilgrims . It is at this stage only a rumor / heresay / notation etc That has not been followed up ., Hence my query on our website Looking for CAPTAIN ROBERT EDMUNDS Descendants I have seen the odd enqiry on our website on the Mayflower etc and I believe Scott , The owner of this website is also a descendant of those pilgrims who travelled to another country to have their freedom in all things way back in 1620 .
Perhaps even yet and with more research I will find the answer of another relative of mine who may have came from those early fighters for freedom;

Till we meet again regards - edmondsallan

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