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This warning has been sounded before in regard to registration of births and deaths in country areas, especially in pioneering days where churches and towns were rare. For instance, on the Mornington Peninsula, a birth recorded as being at Point Nepean in the 1850's does not mean that the parents were living there but that an official at the quarantine station was the only registrar available. When townships were proclaimed, registrars, post offices and schools were among the perks but place names on birth and death documents could be misleading. Rye was officially called Tootgarook for well over a decade and a birth registered at Mornington could be described as being at Snapper Point, Schnapper Point or Moorooduc, the name of the parish.
Bullocky Bob White was a resident near Main Creek flowing south from Arthurs Seat for most of his life, maybe from birth and certainly until the last rate record available on microfiche in 1919. His obituary gave his birthplace as Borneo (actually Boneo, a very vague locality circa 1860) and that he died in Rosebud. His death and burial notices described him as a resident of Dromana West! See below.
Often documents and biographies (such as in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS)contain lies. Many bounty passengers lowered their ages on shipping records so they'd qualify for the heavily reduced fare. Bullocky Bob White's obituary's vague year of birth had the same purpose as Robert Henry Adams' lie on his birth certificate that his parents had married before leaving England instead of almost a decade after his birth. My great grandfather gave his year of arrival as 1867 rather than 1864 to hide his indenture to John Hall, being by 1888 a prominent resident and councillor of the Shire of Broadmeadows unwilling to reveal his humble beginnings.
From my CHRONOLOGY (FROM TROVE) OF BURIALS AT DROMANA CEMETERY etc. journal.
5-5-1941. ROBERT JAMES A.K.A. BULLOCKY BOB WHITE.
MR. R. WHITE
Born at Borneo(sic) in the eighteen-fifties*, Mr. Robert White, of Rosebud**,died on Saturday, May 3, at the age of 86*** years. The late Mr. White, whose passing is mourned by a large circle of friends, leaves a widow, a daughter and.seven sons. The funeral took place on Monday, May 5, at Dromana Cemetery.
A service was conducted at the home of Rev. R. C. McLean, who also read the burial service. A tribute to Mr. White's useful life was paid by Cr. Greaves at the graveside. He said that the large attendance at the funeral indicated the high esteem in which deceased had been held by the people in the surrounding districts The late Mr. White had been a good churchman and a fine citizen. Many beautiful floral tributes were sent.
Six of the late Mr. White's sons bore the coffin, and the pall-bearers were:- Messrs. E. Bright, G. James,D. James, J. Hobley, Ivan White, C.White and E. White.(P.5, Standard, 9-5-1941.)
(*Before his mother arrived? **Probably a Rosebud property left to him by Charles and Janet James, his parents.***About 81 if we deduct 1860 from 1941 and if we take his age as gospel, he was born in 1855 when his mother was still in the old country.)
It is generally accepted that Bullocky Bob White was born in about 1860, his mother being Janet White (born 1839 or 1844) who travelled to Australia on the John Linn, arriving in Melbourne on 25-6-1859. His father, Charles James (Born 1831, SALISBURY WILTSHIRE ENGLAND, died 23 01 1907, MORNINGTON VIC) was buried at Dromana Cemetery on what was calculated to be 24-1-1907.
Robert White's birthplace was Boneo, not Borneo but the name was used to describe the area along today's Browns Rd between Main Ridge and Truemans Rd in early days so he could have been born on the James property at Melway 254 J1 or the Cairns brothers' Little Scotland at 170 B10, where Janet's father Robert White (1804-1881) was recorded as renting a hut from the Cairns Bros. in the Kangerong Road Board's first assessment of 1864. As the exact date of Bullocky Bob's birth is not known, Charles White may not have been his biological father; Janet may have become pregnant aboard the John Linn.
The information in Bullocky's obituary was probably the result of his desire to muddy the waters when asked any questions or perhaps on his marriage certificate when he married Hannah Roberts. (Robert Henry Adams of Rosebud did the latter re the year and place of his parents' marriage to disguise his illegitimacy.)
Charles James and JANET WHITE, (Born: 1844 (?) , MENSTRIE CLACKMANNANSHIRE SCOTLAND Married: 25 07 1864, WANNAEUE VIC (MI: 2603) Died: 1921) were not married until after Bullocky was born and their first legitimate child may have been Elizabeth (born 1865) who married William Hobley. Janet's birth year above (1844) was probably from her marriage certificate and another attempt to muddy the waters. Stephen Lynch gives her year of birth as 1839 between Henry (1834) and Ann (1842). Janet' mother, Elizabeth, died shortly after giving birth to Elizabeth (1850-1850) and this was no doubt in her mind when she named her own baby in 1865.
Robert was raised as Robert Charles but that was not what his birth certificate said.He was so incensed at being kept in the dark about the the circumstances of his birth he was said to have cut contact with his mother and changed his name to that on the birth certificate, Robert White. Janet's younger brother, Robert White (born 1849) had probably moved to the Red Hill area by this time and acquired the nickname of Blooming Bob White because he never swore at his bullocks, using this word instead. His nephew, the former Robert James (under which name he was granted 27A1, Wannaeue) was referred to as Bullocky Bob White.
(Sources:PIONEERS OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA Stephen Lynch: charles james - Great Southern Pioneers
I'd tried in vain to find Bullocky's death notice with a WHITE ROSEBUD 1941 FAMILY NOTICES search on trove. No wonder I didn't find it. I seem to recall an assessment for "James" on c/a 19 Wannaeue, between Parkmore Rd and Adams Ave and this was probably where Bullocky was living when he died, and why the funeral procession left from the lighthouse. Only a year or two later his residence would have been described as being in McCrae. Family historians should take notice that the same location was likely to be described by more than one place name until about 1950, that places of birth and death may have been where the event was recorded bby a registrar or a hospital (say in Mornington or Melbourne respectively) where the mother or deceased had been admitted prior to the event because of an expected difficult birth or a serious illness/ incapacity that required expert medical care.
WHITE. —On May 3, at Dromana West, Robert, beloved husband of Mary, fond father of George, Chris, Eden, Ern, Fred, Lily (Mrs. Bright), Jack, and Will, aged 86 years. —At rest. (P.4, Argus, 5-5-1941.)
WHITE-The Friends of ROBERT WHITE late of Main Ridge are respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, Dromana Cemetery.
The funeral will leave the South Channel Lighthouse at 3 p m THIS DAY (Monday). HECTOR GAMBLE Funeral Director. (P. 4 as above.)
Donald attended the Keilor school and knew the area,its pioneers and the coach drivers who passed through intimately. He became a pupil teacher at the school in 1876, and soon moved into journalism. Such details are available in his biography*, but not his act of bravery in 1899** at the age of about 40, which prompted this journal.
(*Macdonald, Donald Alaster - Australian Dictionary of Biography - ANU
Professor Ernest Scott wrote a tremendous tribute to Donald (P.7, The Australasian,December 3,1932), starting with:
"The best of companions for a ramble, interested in everything, amusing, considerate, always ready for a chat with any farm hand, sportsman or swagman, and getting something from everybody he met and everything he saw."
DONALD'S BDM RECORDS.
The date of birth given in the biography would seem to be wrong, given his death in 1932 aged 75. No record could be found of Donald's birth in Victoria that conforms to the names of the parents in his death record. Confirmation of his birth at Fitzroy (but not in 1859)is given in one of the many tributes following his death in 1932. "Mr Macdonald was in his 76th year,having been born at Fitzroy in 1857. His boyhood was spent in Keilor." (http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189120892)
EventMarriage Event registration number1017 Registration year1883
Family nameSEWARD Given namesJessie SexFemale Spouse's family nameMCDONALD Spouse's given namesDonald Alaster
EventDeath Event registration number3349 Registration year1932
Family nameMCDONALD Given namesDonald Alex SexUnknown Father's nameMcdonald Donald Mother's nameMargaret (Harris) Place of birth Place of deathBlack R Age75
MR DONALD MACDONALD DEAD
Mr Donald Macdonald, the well-known journalist, naturalist and author, died on November 23.
(P.6, Weekly Times, 26-11-1932.)
RAMBLING NEAR KEILOR AS A BOY.
IN THE ARUNDEL WARREN. RABBITS OR CHINCHILLAS?
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 13 October 1928 p 8 Article Illustrated
Donald's heroic deed was performed at Lorne which is mentioned in this article about early coach drivers and Donald's regard for them.
THE LATE DONALD MACDONALD. TO THE EDITOR OF THE ARGUS.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 2 December 1932 p 7 Article
Considering that Douglas Picking probably helped to maintain tourism in Dromana after the days of the steamers,it is amazing that the only mention of his fauna park in Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA was in relation to a fire described on page 146.
The local police would not allow fire fighters into what old-timers know as Russell's. This had been the site of American Marine manoeuvres in preparation for later Pacific island landings....much live ammunition had been lying in the paddocks. We local children had thought we had collected most of it,but in the face of the firefront,what we had missed was exploding, posing a serious risk to life and limb,hence the police ban. We therefore took ourselves on to Paterson's (sic) opposite Picking's Fauna Park,where with support from Australian troops from Balcombe we battled the fire there.
As rate records and the subdivision plan of Clarke's Estate on the Survey show, "Patterson's" was lots 18 and 19 of the Clarke Estate,286 acres north of Wallaces Rd (known to old-timers as Patterson's Lane), east of Pt Nepean Rd, and indicated by Melway 160 K2, part 1, 161A-B1,2,part 3, 151 B12,west third of C12. Pickings Lane is across Pt Nepean Rd from the south west corner of Patterson's and it is possible that Douglas built Bluestone Cottage (Mel. 160 G2)at the north west corner of lot 9, the old Griffith family homestead block.
To confirm or repudiate this, I will have to find a two or three year old email I sent to the shire Heritage Planning Officer, Simon Lloyd, when I was in the midst of trying to save the heritage of Rosebud and Dromana. Found it!
9/17/11 to Simon
While assembling Safety Beach information from trove, it suddenly occurred to me that Bluestone Homestead might have been a pioneer's home.( Located at the end of Pickings Rd (Melway 160 D2) it might have had a connection with D.Picking's peacock farm/fauna park.)
It requires no investigation as the only item of historical interest is the builder, Hanson, a descendant of Hec Hanson's grandfather who arrived in Balnarring in 1887.It was built in about 1980.
This was run by the owner as Bluestone Homestead cottages, which is still on the internet but has not operated as a bed and breakfast for some years. This information comes from the owner.
I suggest that this house be listed with a status "of little interest" with its only links to history being through the builder's pioneering family and the use of a material (bluestone) that had not been much used for over a century. With this information recorded, much precious assessment time will be saved in case somebody (like me) thinks the house has significance.
The following shows that Douglas had land on both sides of Pt Nepean Rd,perhaps including Godfrey Ralph Patterson's lots 18 and 19 and land farther east through which the creeks flow.
From where did D.Picking come?
Where was his Fauna Park exactly?
Where was his grant near Red Hill?
The answers to these questions disappeared when I lost my internet connection and had to reboot my computer to regain it. Wisely I had copied it but unwisely I didn't paste it into a word file and lost the lot.
When I saw yesterday's Southern Peninsula News (24-3-2015) the first question was answered. What part of Frankston? Long Island according to Doug's wedding notice. Pickings Road and Lane give an indication of the
location of Doug's 1000 acres on the survey, fronting Pt Nepean Rd. The creeks named seem to indicate that his land was near Tubbarubba. Doug's 2.125 acre grant (28C Kangerong) near Red Hill was between White Hill Rd and Old White Hill Rd west of Melbourne Water's Dromana Reservoir.
WEDDING BELLS. PICKING—PHILLIPS.
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Wednesday 18 October 1922 p 2 Article
... . Pick-ing, of Long Island, Frankston, and brother to Mesdames J. L. Pratt and J. B. Jolly, of Frankston.
AUSTRALIAN FAUNA PARKS DROMANA PROJECT SPECIAL SECTION FOR KOALAS Living Under Natural Conditions
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 14 August 1933 p 10 Article.
(1000 ACRES,PT NEPEAN RD, BULLDOG, TUBBARUBBA AND MOSQUITO CREEKS, ETC.)
TO BE RESUMED WHEN JOURNALS ABOUT DROMANA AND ROSEBUD HERITAGE WALKS,MEMORIES OF RED HILL POST 1940 AND VIN JERVIS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
Douglas Picking,his wife Beatrice and, presumably, his second wife, were buried at the Mornington cemetery.
1247 PICKING Douglas Robert 6/7/1971 72 Drom
1247 PICKING Beartice DeCardi 5/6/1956 56 nee Phillips*, Morn
3145 PICKING Lily b1908 d1996 Nee Moses
The wedding of Mr. Douglas Picking, son of Mr. and Mrs. R. T. Picking, of Long Island, Frankston, and brother to Mesdames J. L. Pratt and J. B. Jolly, of Frankston, and Miss Beatrice Phillips, daughter of the Rev. and Mrs W. A. Phillips, of Glenhuntly, took place recently at St.Agnes' Church, Glenhuntly. Canon Langley officiated. The bride was frocked in ivory satin with beaded georgette, side panels, and carried a pink and white bouquet. Mrs. Picking, senr., was attired in nigger* brown velour, and Mrs. Phillips, sen.wore blade charmeuse. (P.2,Frankston and Somerville Standard, 18-10-1922.)
*No journalist would dare write that apt description of colour today!
PICKING.-On June 5, at Mornington, Beatrice De Cardi Picking,darling wife of Douglas Picking,Fauna Parks, Dromana, aged 56 years. -Those glorious years we had together, dearest. You know I will always love you sweetheart mine. (Doug.)
PICKING.-On June 5. at Mornington, Beatrice De Cardi Picking, the devoted wife, a brave and loving mother of Robert, Douglas(U.S.A.), Bruce, Marianne (Mrs.J. Cameron-Begg), and Warwick,mother-in-law of Molly and Cam,
grandmother of John, Lynette,Juanita, Ann, Jeanie (U.S.A.) and Warwick.
PICKING.-On June 5, at Mornington, Beatrice de Cardi Picking, loved mother of Bruce and Val.
Mr Robert T. Picking
Mr Robert Thomas Picking, who died at Frankston on Friday last, was on the staff of Lamson, Paragon Ltd for about 40 years. He retired about 12 years ago. Mr Picking, who was in his 84th year, is survived by a son, Mr Douglas Picking, of Dromana, and two daughters, Mrs J. L.Pratt and Mrs J. B Jolly, of Frankston.
(P.6, Argus, 18-2-1947.)
Mr Douglas Picking, now residing at Dromana, still has at heart the success of the Frankston New Year's Day sports, hence Portsea, Rosebud,Dromana and Mornington are displaying widely the programmes in connection with Frankston's big New Year's Gala Day.
Mr. R.T. Picking has posted New Year's Day sports programmes in business windows in many towns of the State, from the seaside town of Queenscliff to far distant Mildura, and this effort on behalf of the well known traveller serves to at least advertise Frankston in the inland towns of the State.
(P.3, Frankston and Somerville Standard,30-11-1923.)
Doug's son flew the coop. Does the Dromana R.S.L.Branch know about Robert and Doug junior.
PICKING-DWYER. —On October 23, at St.Andrew's Church of England, Summer Hill, Sydney, by Archdeacon Bidwell, Amelia Mary, only daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. J. T. Dwyer, of Dulwich Hill and Tamworth, to Robert William Leith Picking (R.A.A.F. returned), eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. Douglas Picking, of Fauna Parks, Dromana, Victoria.(P.2,Argus, 20-11-1943.)
Water birds, such as young Doug, were also involved in aviculture! Both Robert and Doug Junior had Leith as a given name so I suspect this was the maiden name of R.T.'s wife.
GOOD NEWS FOR DROMANA FAMILY
Mr. and Mrs. Douglas Picking were the recipients of good news this week,when a letter was received from their
son, Douglas, from New-York. Almost in the same mail, they received a letter from a lady in East Africa, who had entertained Douglas whilst his boat was in port there. Doug. is in the Merchant Navy, and his parents had not heard from him for two years. His brother, Bob, who is in the RAAF, and has seen active service, is at present in Dromana with his young wife.(P.4 Standard,Frankston,16-3-1944.)
DOUGLAS LEITH PICKING AND HIS OLD ENGLISH SHEEPDOGS,AMONG THE SPRING FLOWERS AT GLENKINDIE. DROMANA (V.)
(P.23,The Australasian, 8-10-1932.)
N.B. It was the boy's father's success (retold 100 years later in the Southern Peninsula News) with his old English sheepdog, Frankston Lorna Doone,that led to this journal.
Val,one of the article I found last night was a photo of several Mornington Shire councillors at the fauna park
with Mr Kirton. That's what I've been looking for.(Picking, Dromana search on trove.)I'd better get back to my Memories of Red Hill journal or I'll be lynched.
Val Wilson, whose fabulous research into the pioneers buried in this cemetery can be found on the website below, has been informed about the Douglas Picking story in an email containing the part in italics above.
Pioneer Graves in the Mornington Cemetery
Here Mrs Valerie Wilson of Mornington & District Historical Society, documents the known details of a selection of pioneers and early settlers now resting in the ...
Who's Doug Bachli?
Sport Australia Hall of Fame - Athlete Members
Bachli MBE, Mr Douglas, Golf, 1987. Baker, Mr Reginald 'Snowy', Boxing, Rugby Union, Diving, Swimming, Polo, 1985. Bannerman, Mr Charles, Cricket, 1986.
A EUREKA MOMENT! BUT WHERE DO I POST IT?
The rough location of the Patron Park Stud was discovered during my research for the HERITAGE WALK, ROSEBUD journal. As the stud was actually in Dromana but my HERITAGE WALK,DROMANA journal deals with sites on or near the Esplanade, I thought a new journal was the best idea.
The Rosebud journal gives much information about the Bachli family under the ROSEBUD HOTEL entry. Both Rosebud and Dromana had their share of famous people and we Rosebud residents are willing to share Doug with Dromana.
The Bachli family seems to have been involved in the hospitality industry for some time before Doug's father, John Phillip (Phil)took on Rosebud's long- awaited hotel in 1941. Frank (probably Doug's great uncle) ran a hotel at Ararat pre 1916, Doug's father had a hotel at Shepparton before moving to Canberra in the mid 1930's,probably to look after his father, William, and run Brassey House for him. After leaving Rosebud,Doug, three years after his marriage to Dorothy and living in Surrey Hills, took on a hotel in Melbourne in 1956.
Phil and Doug were passionate about the Sport of Kings but I have found no evidence of their involvement in this pursuit before their arrival in Rosebud. Their horses certainly competed after this time at Canberra and no doubt the opportunity was taken to meet old friends still living there.
While the Patron Park Stud was being established, Doug was probably running the hotel and helping Phil to erect stables, fencing etc. on the 48 acre stud whenever he could so the footy ground across the road from the Rosebud Hotel was probably instrumental in honing the skills that won him the 1954 British Amateur Championship. Along with this and his service in W.W.2 (see comment under the ROSEBUD journal), Doug spent precious little time on golf courses in the first half of the 1940's.
Trove searches for the location of the stud involved many fruitless hours and the following was discovered in a google search for PATRON PARK STUD,DROMANA. Of course Harbison Rd had to be Harrisons Rd. The stud was probably being sold by the Doody family which had bought it from Doug; they had another stud at Diggers Rest.
"patron Park" .Harbison .Road Dromana Stud .Farm, Freehold.
PAGE 14, THE AGE, JUNE 10, 1964.
AUCTION - DROMANA
THURSDAY, JUNE 18,at 2:30 p.m., on the Property
Firstly to be offered in one lot of approx.48 acres but if not sold to be offered in two lots.
COMPRISING: (1)36 acres 3 roods 33 perches approx.; (2) 12 acres approx.
LOT 1 (a) Delightful 6 roomed weatherboard dwelling with 3 roomed S.C. flat. Together with all floor coverings,light fittings, and shades, blinds and drapes.
(b) Complete stud farm consisting of 10 divided agistment paddocks,loose boxes,State Rivers water connected to each paddock,Saddling yards, stables, feed sheds &c.
LOT 2 is a vacant lot of land divided into approx.four paddocks with State Rivers water connected to each paddock.
Terms 10%deposit,balance 60 days.
For inspection and prior offers,please contact:
SAVOY-ALWARD PTY. LTD. 505 ST.KILDA ROAD
Phone 24 6681 or 28 Chester St,Oakleigh. 569 0661.
The actual location of the 48 acres is yet to be pinpointed. A possible Doody descendant at Sunbury or Doug's son,Paul, might be able to help me. What is of interest is that no training track was mentioned. My guess is that the stud was close to Melway 160 H-J 7-8 where 117 acres,DROMANA RACECOURSE was gazetted in 1872.
WITH THANKS TO THE GOLF SOCIETY OF AUSTRALIA*, MARK BACHLI, PAUL BACHLI AND FRANK HILLI.
*pdf 525kB - Golf Society of Australia
Mar 10, 2000 - Vale - Douglas William Bachli - (1922 - 2000). The Golf Society of Australia lost ... of his son Paul, “I have lost my hero” - we have all lost a hero.
There was only one Bachli in White Pages for the whole of Melbourne. He was Doug's son but he had never seen Patron Park Stud. However,he gave me the mobile number of Doug's youngest son,Paul. I rang Paul but there was no answer and I left a message. Paul rang back first thing this morning. He knew where it was and spoke of black gates and the new name of Palimino Stud. He said the stud was near the Tech.School. As I drove north past the school, there was no sign of black gates. When I reached the north end of the recreation reserve with the subdivision of the Moat family's grants on my left,I knew it was time to turn around. That was when I saw the sign: PALiMINO STUD. It was 59 Harrisons Rd. Then I saw a Californian Bungalow with a four wheel drive in front of it but no driveway. This had to be the delightful weatherboard house of 1964 but I had to drive past it to the black gates with Palimino Stud wrought upon them.
As I walked up the driveway two pairs of eyes watched me warily. I introduced myself and explained my purpose to the older pair of eyes which filled with enthusiasm. Their owner showed me the stables (feed room,tack room,stalls with sliding doors which still slide beautifully and the concrete pad outside the feed room on which stood a silo which fed the feedboxes. Then he escorted me through the self contained three roomed flat attached to the north east corner of the house,and told me that the foundations of the six roomed weatherboard house had been compressed when somebody had substituted heavy terra cotta tiles for corrugated iron. The house, flat and stabling were all on five acres with grapevines on a paddock behind them. There is a lane on the north side of the house along which feed could probably be carried to each of the specified 10 agistment paddocks but Patron Park probably also extended to the south as well as east.
As we walked toward the black gates, I asked the owner his name and how to spell the surname. It was Frank Hilli* and I knew immediately why he hadn't been to the BACK TO RED HILL reunion on March 22, 2015. He mentioned the old passion fruit factory in Harrisons Rd and I told him about Barry Wright's photo of it in my MEMORIES OF RED HILL,POST 1940 journal. He told me it was now the Whispering Vines Cafe,done up beautifully with brick cladding and it certainly does look great,up the long drive from the impressive brick entrance (TOLLEO ESTATE?)
*There was a four day Hilli/ Cleine reunion on the same weekend that I only found out about after the hall had been booked and the date of the BACK TO RED HILL was publicised.
This is the death record of John Dunbar Tweeddale/ Tweedale.
EventDeath Event registration number2471 Registration year1897
Family nameTWEEDALE Given namesJno Dunbar SexUnknown Father's nameTweedale Jas Mother's nameMargt (Dunbar) Place of birth Place of deathMelb E Age82
It is possible that the doctor's father was a Melbourne merchant who had died by 1868 and the J.W.Tweeddale listed on the Wannaeue parish map as the grantee of crown allotment 1 of section A bounded by Old Cape Schanck, Grasslands and Browns Rds south of Rosebud of which the Tudor Caravan Park at Melway 170E 7/8 was part.
While researching for my review of Rosalind Peatey's SETTING THE SPIRIT FREE, I discovered that one of the Southern Peninsula pioneers had died, probably in Melbourne, despite the efforts of Dr. Tweedale of Essendon, and, as they say, curiosity killed the cat! I found a great story about the doctor and other pioneers living near the junction of Steele Creek and the Maribyrnong River at Melway 27 J4.
Paste the following into your search bar to get the Wannaeue and Doutta Galla parish maps:
digital.slv.vic.gov.au/dtl_publish/simpleimages/30/2611207.html See c/a 1 of A south of Jetty Rd.
digital.slv.vic.gov.au/dtl_publish/compleximages/46/2442850.html Map 1.
Before we get to the story, here is much information about the doctor such as his background as a Naval Surgeon, his family and various residences over the years as well as his having been "Acting Health Officer and Superintendent of the Quarantine Station at Point Nepean 1885, 1888, 1890, 1896 (VGG)"
ABOUT THE FARMS AND PIONEERS IN THE STORY.
Section 12 Doutta Galla was known as Main's Estate. It was subdivided in quite early days. Between Rosehill Rd and Buckley St were two farms: Sinclair's farm of 114 acres from Rachelle Rd to Steele Creek and 112 acres 2 roods and 19 perches owned by Dougal McPhail from the creek to Hoffmans Rd.
South of Mains Estate was the Aitken estate, by then leased by Robert McDougall who had commenced his renowned breeding of Booth-strain Shorthorn cattle in the early 1850's on "Cona" on the Glenroy estate and in 1872 would move onto Arundel in Tullamarine where he'd built a mansion that survives today with the balconied facade replaced by fenestration as the architects call it. Main had possibly bought his estate because of the bluestone available in Spring Gully and John Aitken would have bought section 8 as a depot where his sheep could rest on the way to market after crossing the original Solomons Ford at Melway 27 C9 (not 27 B8 as claimed.)
Peter McCracken, who'd rented Stewarton (today's Gladstone Park) 1846-55, owned "Ardmillan" the south half of crown allotment B section 6 and had moved from his dairy south of Derby St at Kensington into his new mansion which was located on present 33-37 (if I remember correctly) Ardmillan Rd, on the uphill side of Smith's Lane in about 1857.
Doctor Tweedale, having been a naval surgeon, would have needed and gained knowledge of European languages and was thus able to translate for the court.
The black man who'd been assaulted could well have been another Cape Verde Islander and speaking Portugese rather than Spanish; he was employed by Robert McDougall on section 8. Catherine Sinclair's maiden name was McIntyre as shown by the court report but I could not find her death record to confirm this.
SOMEONE WAS TELLING A LOT OF BULL.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5738984 MELBOURNE CRIMINAL SESSIONS.
A well attended working bee in connection with the new golf links was held the other afternoon, and under the direction of the president of the club, who was a most energetic toiler, a very creditable amount of work was done. Messrs Shaw, of the Kangerong boardinghouse, kindly dispensed refreshments during the afternoon. Needless to say these were highly appreciated by the heavy grafters.
The new links should prove attractive to golfers, as they are conveniently situated in a picturesque spot in one of Mr Gibson's paddocks*, close to the sea shore. The annual meeting of the Dromana Golf Club was held in the hall on Tuesday week, the president (Mr Welling) in the chair. The treasurer submitted last year's balance-sheet,which showed a credit of 13s. 6 d. Mr Welling was re-elected president, Mr G.H.Rogers** secretary and treasurer,and Messrs W. Gibson and A. V.Shaw auditors. (P.5,Mornington Standard, 18-11-1905.)
*In 1910, Walter Gibson was assessed on 447 acres and buildings, 400 acres and 670 acres, all described on being in Kangerong (parish.) Glenholm consisted of only 268 acres. Much of the extra land would have been leased on Clarke's majority portion of the survey where he washed sheep in Sheepwash Creek and straightened the last mile of Dunn's Creek but the 1879 rates seem to indicate that he owned 365 acres exclusive of Glenholm.
In 1919-20,William Gibson was assessed on 659 acres on the survey (exact locations given), while Margaret Gibson (probably Walter's wife, Margaret, nee Purdie)was assessed on 166 acres, c/a 4 section 2, east of Glenholm across Collins Rd. William Gibson had land near post office (N.A.V. 35 pounds and crown allotment 10 section 1, Walter J.Gibson crown allotment 2 section 19, Jessie Gibson 164 acres and buildings c/a 9 and 9a, section 2 (actually section 1,the eastern portion of Glenholm fronting the west side of Collins Rd)and Adam Gibson 116 acres and buildings,c/a 10,section 2 (actually section 1,the western part of Glenholm, consisting of 116 acres and 2 roods, which included today's Rainier Ave and Lombardy Ave sold as the Monaco Estate. Even the critical Cr Terry, who had resigned about a decade earlier because of inadequate description of properties, would have though things had improved by 1919.But without a parish map and knowledge of the location of Glenholm (William Cottier's grants),he would not have noticed that the two parts of Glenholm were incorrectly described as being in section 2 (east of Collins Rd)and that William Gibson was wrongly assessed on the Western part of Glenholm (on which he was was living) because Adam Gibson paid therates on the buildings and the entire 116 acres.
However we are concerned with determining the new golf course site " conveniently situated in a picturesque spot in one of Mr Gibson's paddocks*, close to the sea shore." and the two best possibilities,in light of Melbourne Brindle's map, seem to be :
William Gibson's land near post office (N.A.V. 35 pounds)
and Walter J.Gibson's crown allotment 2 section 19.
**Mr Rogers was the teacher at Dromana State School for 12 years until mid 1906,and was very involved in community activities, such as serving as secretary of the Show committee. (See: Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 21 July 1906 p 2 Article.)
His son,Hunter Rodgers, wrote a history of the peninsula in 1961.
The early history of the Mornington Peninsula / by Hunter ...
Also Titled. Early history of the Mornington Peninsula : Westernport, Frankston, Geelong & Queenslcliff. Author. Rogers, Hunter. Edition. 8th ed. Published.
Ewart (Melbourne) Brindle grew up in Dromana between 1904 and 1918 and the power of observation that made him renowned internationally for his illustrations on American magazine covers is displayed in a map of Dromana drawn nearly three decades after he left for America. The map,available from the Dromana Historical Society shows every tee,fairway and green of the first Dromana golf course.
The first tee was on the west side of Arthur St quite near the present George St corner. Arthur St had a slight dogleg to the left and met Palmerstone Avenue slightly more to the east than it does today, possibly because of boggy or rocky ground,and the green was near the present corner. The second fairway ran along Palmerston Avenue stopping just short of Boundary Rd and the third was a short one over today's Boundary and Caldwell Rds. It is unlikely anyone using such streets and roads was in danger of being collected by a topped drive!
The third hole was in the township of Dromana, whose eastern boundary was McCulloch St,with the part of modern Dromana to the east being properly called section 1,Kangerong. The fourth fairway was from just south of Arthurs Seat Rd to the Glenone Avenue corner.The fifth hole went from near the present Rosebud- bound on ramp to near the corner of Foote and Claredon Sts. The sixth was very short but a test of nerves existed in the form of a dry gully. The seventh crossed Heales St to a part of the present schoolground opposite the James St corner, the creek, which provided mudfight fun for the scholars such as Ewart and his sister, requiring a confident pitch onto the green. This hole was Miss Noble's* Waterloo,even from the ladies' tee which was on the east side of Heales St.
The eighth crossed McCulloch St with the green near the midpoint of the length of James St. Jolly Barker's house was at the corner of the non-existent Thomas and Francis Sts; The ninth ,starting near the present freeway went north on the east side of Jolly's house nearly to the bend in George St.
*Despite her bogie hole, Miss Noble was a very good golfer.
Her timing was often astray on the seventh but what about the timing of her trip to England?
Departure of Miss Noble from Dromana.
A very pleasant evening was spent on Monday last to bid farewell to Miss Noble, late matron of the Convalescent
home, ". Airlie, " who left on Wednesday by the " Orvetes," on a pleasure trip to England.(etc.)
(P.2,Mornington Standard, 16-5-1914.)
Miss, Miss, Miss; didn't the matron have a given name? It was probably Edith?
DEATHS. NOBLE.—On the 27th December, Edith Noble, of "Airlie," Dromana, (P.1,Argus,28-12-1918.)
Edith was obviously an independent spinster and may have been living at Dr Weld's
PROPERTY SALES.-The 6-roomed villa known as "Airlie," situated in Palmerston avenue, Dromana, has been purchased by Miss Edith Noble, of Dromana.(P.2,Mornington Standard,18-8-1906.)
OPENING AND CLOSING.
This is the last mention of the original golf course.
The opening tournament of the Dromana Golf Club was played on 25th ult., for the trophies donated by the Club. The following are the results :-Nine holes. Mixed Foursome-Miss McKewen (McKeown, of the Aringa guest house) and A.V. Shaw (25 handicap, 44 net), Miss Hazeldine and W. Evans(scratch, 47), 2nd; Miss Ritchie and Mr McWilliams (8 handicap, 52 net), 3rd. Twelve pairs competed.
The score of 47 put up by Miss Hazeldine and Mr Evans (the local scratch players) was a great performance, and has reduced the record for a mixed foursome from 52, held by two players from the Riversdale Club, Melbourne.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 4-7-1914.)
The second and third courses were those of the ROSEBUD COUNTRY GOLF CLUB and the SAFETY BEACH COUNTRY CLUB.
The following seems to indicate that a course was to be built on Arthur's Seat,(perhaps on Seawinds.) This was the only mention of it that I have found. Perhaps the depression stymied their plans.
ARTHURS SEAT ROAD.
Opening Before Christmas.
The continuation of the Arthur's Seat
road at Dromana is being completed, and
it is proposed to have the official opening
before the Christmas holidays. The
tower on the mountain is being repaired,
and a nine hole golf course is being laid
out A rustic kiosk will be built.
(P.13, Argus, 8-10-1929.)
DROMANA -Nearly 70 acres at Safety Beach has been set aside for a golf course, and a club has been formed under the name of the Dromana Country Golf Club. The designing of the course is left to Mr A. Russell and the links will be open about the middle of December. It will be available to visitors and members alike.
DROMANA COUNTRY GOLF CLUB.
New Links at Dromana.
Golfers and others from all parts of the peninsula
attended the opening of the new links of the Dro
mana Country Golf Club. The course, which is
in a rough state is situated at the foot of Mount
Martha, and the nine holes all command beau
tlful views of Port Phillip Bay, Arthur's Seat
and Mount Martha. The nature of the soil and
the layout of the course proved a surprise to the
many golfers. The club is applying for affiliation
with the V.G.A. (P.3, Argus, 22-12-1930.)
There is much more detail about the course in my journal about SAFETY BEACH such as the location of the course and the extant clubhouse which later served as a guest house.
"Between the wars a course was constructed on part of Bean's Safety Beach property.It was thickly studded with clumps of reeds,silver tussocks and bracken fern. After W.W.2 the Bean property began to operate as Locksley Chase Guest House." (P.171, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
The aforementioned journal spills the beans on Mr Bean and the R.A.C.V. speed trials, proceeds from which went to the bush nursing hospital,Lou Carrigg using the course to promote his hotel, and the probable involvement of the McDonalds* of Rye in the last few years of the course.
SAFETY BEACH AND THE SURVEY NEAR DROMANA, VIC., AUST.
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(*The McDonalds' course at Rye, bounded by Dundas St and Golf Parade, became the Ryelands Estate and was sold by Bill Prentice who drove down every week andparked his car at the end of Lyon St to serve as an office.
SAFETY BEACH COUNTRY CLUB.
Safety Beach Country Club started its life under a different name and as the grand vision of property developer David Deague to create one of the first integrated housing and sports facilities in Victoria.
Following the example of the Gold Coast’s Sanctuary Cove, David planned an estate of some 400 homes intertwined with a nine hole golf course, and boasting a spectacular club house/function centre now known as The Atrium.
Five floodlight tennis courts and a swimming pool between the course and the function centre added more sporting facilities. The Mt Martha Valley Country Club, as it was then named, was for the use of all residents and land owners who were to bel contracted to pay yearly maintenance fees.
During construction more than 1,000 palm trees were transported to the site. Coco palms were sourced from northern New South Wales and Canary Island date Palms from Queensland, all of which led to a very different and stunning look for the locale. Land sales were promoted around Australia and in Asia.
CHANGE OF DIRECTION
Unfortunately the original project was before its time and fell on hard times. Slow land sales meant that income to support maintain and enhance the golf course was not sufficient. To protect their lifestyle a group or residents and estate land owners formed the company Mt Martha Valley Estates Limited which purchased the sporting facilities and the function centre from the developers.
To become viable the club needed to open all facilities to the public; to be competitive with other Mornington Peninsula golf courses and attract golfers, it upgraded the golf course to eighteen holes.
Over a period of two years, and the majority of work being accomplished by the dedicated team of four grounds staff, nine new holes were constructed without interruption of play on the existing nine holes. The original holes were sown with seaside bent and the new greens with Penn links bent. Fairways are sown with fine ryes, all cool season. Some 200 palm trees were relocated to define the new fairways, and over 3,000 native trees and bushes have been planted.
A new club house and ProShop built by volunteers from the Estate blends into the panorama, along with the New Atrium restaurant/convention centre, and the valley resort with its fine accommodation units.
Safety Beach Country Club's Story & History
Safety Beach Country Club started its life as the grand vision of David Deague to create one of the first integrated housing & sports facilities in Victoria.)
DUNN'S FARM OF 123 ACRES AT STRATHMORE, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA INCLUDED 12 ACRES THAT BECAME PART OF "LEBANON".
MOONEE PONDS as used in the first decades of Victoria's permanent settlement did not mean the present suburb but "somewhere near the Moonee Moonee Chain of Ponds" (Moonee Ponds Creek.)
Today's Strathmore consists of the part of section 16 Doutta Galla east of Bulla Rd, section 15, east of today's Carnarvon/ Arvon Rd to the Moonee Ponds Creek, and section 23 (known in early times as St John's) north of section 15 to the Moonee Ponds Creek, whose south west corner was just south of the Nomad Rd, Vaughan St corner.
Title documents for section 23 mentioned a 123 acre farm leased by a Mr Dunn which became known as Dunn's Farm but I was not sure whether this Mr Dunn was Henry Dunn or a Thomas Dunn AND there was no way that the whole farm could have been in section 23. Sir John Franklin was the owner of the 123 acre farm and title documents regarding section 15 showed that 12 acres of Dunn's farm was actually the northern portion of section 15 which John Murray Peck had fenced in 1882 when he moved onto the part of section 15 purchased by William Smith and immediately south of Sir John Franklin's section 15 purchase. Peck paid the rates for this 12 acre block but never claimed title. After Peck's death, J. English bought Lebanon and claimed title for the 12 acres through adverse possession.
Across the creek from St John's was John Pascoe Fawkner's grant, crown allotment 151 Jika Jika of 709 acres, north to the line of about Victoria St/Rhodes Pde where it adjoined the Glenroy estate and east to Northumberland Rd, Pascoe Vale. In about 1842, Fawkner was forced to sell the land east of Pascoe Vale Rd because of losses from his squatting venture near today's Monegeetta but his Belle Vue Park across the creek from St John's was in his wife's name and could not be sequestered. Fawkner had established the Pascoeville Village just north of the Pascoe Vale bridge and the Young Queen Hotel became a landmark. William Smith (from whom Peck purchased his section 15 land in about 1881) was running the hotel when in 1847 he was accused of murdering his servant, which might account for Mr Parslowe being in charge of the hotel at the time of the robbery at THOMAS DUNN'S farm in 1848*.
Major St John's corruption as a Crown Land Commissioner was exposed by Fawkner who was sued by St John, found guilty and fined a token pittance. Disgraced, St John left the colony. Sir John Franklin added section 23 to his several purchases in the area and leased Dunn's Farm to the mysterious Mr Dunn. Thomas Dunn's home would have been near today's Lebanon Reserve, just across the creek from the Young Queen.
* ROBBING A DWELLING HOUSE WITH VIOLENCE
SNIPPETS FROM "EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA".
This was granted to corrupt magistrate and Crown Lands Commissioner, Major G.F.B.St. John in 1843. J.P.Fawkner exposed his bribe-taking and he fled home embarrassed in 1848. Lady Franklin bought the 516 acres.
Sketch of Title 11578 seems to indicate that St John made Charles Hotson Ebden a dower trustee on 25-2-1843 (B 304). On 17-12-1844, section 23 was conveyed to Sir John Franklin by Ebden, Frederick Armand Powlett (who was probably also a trustee) and St John (c 341).
On 31-3-1852, Sir John and Dame Jane leased 414 acres of section 23 to Thomas Lawson for 10 years at a rent of 100 pounds p.a. This land went east to “Nursery Corner”. On 17-3-1862, Henry Mawbey (mentioned by Harry Peck) started a 5 year lease of 123 acres commonly known as Dunn’s Farm and recently occupied by Eliza Guest. As mentioned before, section 23 only consisted of 525 acres, and these two farms had a total area of 537 acres. Dunn’s farm actually comprised 111 acres of section 23 plus the northernmost 12 acres of section 15.
UNDER SECTION 15.
SIR JOHN FRANKLIN.
On 15-2- 1847, Sir John Franklin bought the northern 12 acres of section 15. From Brewster memorials it has been established that the northern boundary of section 15 is indicated by the intersection of Esmale, Lebanon and Amar Sts. From this line, Franklin’s land went 295 links (59 METRES) south to the e-w section of Lebanon St (D 847).
46645. John M.English.
Part allotment 15 Doutta Galla.
Claim by possession.
L.R.O. Sir John Franklin
(see D 847* set out on ??) also see 11578 from which it appears that his widow Jane Franklin is interested.
John Morgan English, the registered proprietor of abutting land in 9 T? Vol. 2209 Fol 441708 (records available only go to volume 999) from which the land applied for was with other land excised **thus necessitating this present application
(* D 847 records the sale of the 12 acres to Franklin by Brewster.)
(** Broadmeadows Rate books show that in 1900 Alex Robertson had just replaced dairyman, Robert G.Bryant as lessee of “200 acres Doutta Galla” owned by the Hodgson executors. It is known that this was Thomas Kelly’s former eastern portion of section 23, which was roughly between the Strathaird/Menarra St corner and Lebanon Reserve.
His application states (inter alia)
That Crown Grantee was Edward Jones Brewster- But he conveyed
That he has never acknowledged ownership or been called on to do so and no rent or payment has been made by or claimed from him except rent under lease from Land Investment Coy to whom he has sold under contract of sale dated 4 Dec 1923
He occupies under Co lease-
That from 1902 or sometime prior unto: up to 26 June 1918 land was occupied by himself and his brother (probably Joseph English) for grazing purposes and since that date by himself as owner? or lessee as ###? for same purposes:
All rates paid by him or his brother till 1918 and from 1918 to 1923 by him since then by Co. ?? Coy.
Since 1902 a fence has always stood on south boundary of land on south of land applied for- red on survey plan (survey plan not enclosed) and was erected on line upon which an old fence had stood for at least 15 years prior to 1902.
19 Dec 1925 Staty Decl of Harry Huntington Peck
456830 He well knows land in survey plan ???A
(Of course the future author of “Memoirs of a Stockman” should have known the land; his father had squatted on it for about 20 years.)
He is joint owner of land abutting (on portion of south side ) of red and blue and first became acquainted with (said?) land in 1882 when such land was enclosed by fences on south, west and north west sides shown on plan and land has been enclosed by fences from 1882 (to date?) except that about 1902 a new fence was erected on south on line on which original fence stood since 1882.
Thomas Dunn later bought portions of section 15. Details can be supplied on request.