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John was a pioneer of the Tootgarook area that I'm sure nobody knew about. The only thing I knew about him was that he was not Lord (or Baron) Clyde's brother but that in 1869,it was assumed by the press that he would inherit the prize money won by Colin Campbell,who was born Colin M'Liver. The surname was actually McLiver but often appeared in newspapers with the apostrophe. He must have been related in some way to Baron Clyde whose father's name was John McLiver. The following is my attempt to provide details about John before and after the widespread publicity in 1869 but I can't guarantee that all references are to the same person.

DAVID HOWELL and Thomas B. Young will hear of imports I have by sending their address to John M'Liver, Williamstown Post Office.(P.1, Argus, 5-10-1853.)

Sir,- Allow us to draw your attention to proceedings that took place at the Police Court,Swanston-street, this afternoon. We attended there to obtain a form of application for a carrier's licence, when a police officer
informed us there were no printed forms to be had. We were leaving, when a carrier, Edward Rowland, of Preston, came out to get change to pay for a form the police officer had written out for him at a charge of 2s. 6d. We told Edward Rowland the charge was only 1s. He stated to the officer the charge was only 1s, when the
officer said; "You may go and get one where you can." We then applied at tho office on tho left hand side of the entrance, and there obtained the printed forms at 1s. each.
We are, Sir, your humble servants, JNO. MARRIOTT,JOHN M'LIVER. 251 Elizabeth-street, Melbourne.
(P.6, Argus, 23-5-1859.)

FOR SALE, a young HORSE, three years old, from Van Dieman's Land. John M'Liver, Armstrong's Stables.
(P.8, Argus, 20-6-1859.)

FOUR-ROOMED verandah COTTAGE, newly built, quarter-acre garden, to LET, at Benevolent Asylum, foot Spencer-Street, rent low. John M'Liver,251 Elizabeth-street.(P.1, Argus, 24-9-1859.)

Contract Accepted. â Extras on John M'Liver's contract, No. 817 of 1860, for fencing batteries at Sandridge, £20, John M'Liver. (P.5,The Age, 7-11-1860.)

...; Sydney and Heathcote roads, erection of mile-posts,£24, John M'Liver; Melbourne district, erection
of mile-posts, £43 15s., John M'Liver ; (P.5,Argus,26-1-1861.)

erection of mile-posts, £52 8s, John M'Liver. Melbourne to Ballaarat :(P.7,The Age, 1-1-1862.)

Mr John M'Liver entered a protest against the selection , Ellen Cecil of lots 4 of sec. 2, and 1 2 of sec. 8, she being under age. (P.25,Leader, 6-4-1867.)

M'LIVER-MAHONY.-On thE 4th ult., at St. Francis',John M'Liver, Kingston, Canada West, to Mary Mahony, Killcommon, Tipperary, Ireland. (P.4,Argus, 3-3-1868.)

The Herald of Saturday states:â"At the present moment a tiller of the soil is about to proceed to Europe to enforce his claim as next of kin to the late Lord Clyde, better known as Sir Colin Campbell. M'Liver, the free selector on Boneo, in the district of Tootgarook, who for some time has been, content to earn his bread by the sweat of his brow, bursts suddenly upon us as the heir-presumptive to the son of Mr John M'Liver, of Glasgow, and; who entered the army as Ensign Campbell in 1808, and who in 1858 was created a peer by the title of Lord Clyde. From what we hear it seems probable that the Australian M'Liver, who until now has been satisfied with the benefits conferred upon him under the 42nd clause of the Land Act, will be able to substantiate his claim to the accumulated prize-money of the hero of Chillianwallah; Alma, and Lucknow.
(P.2s, The Ballarat Star, 30-8-1869.)

Richard Dwyer, a somewhat elderly man, was charged with having stolen a £l note from the dwellinghouse of John
M'Liver, residing near Dromana. He had taken the money during the absence of the prosecutor from his house, and concealed it in his necktie, where it was found upon his being arrested. The note was fully identified by the prosecutor. The prisoner was convicted and sentenced to 12 months' imprisonment. (P.4, Argus, 2-3-1870.)

Letters received-; From Mr..E. M. T. O'Halloran, solicitor,Queen-street, Melbourne forwarding a second application on behalf of Mr. John M'Liver for payment of £283 3s 6d., balance due for work and labour, and intimating that unless the amount with costs was paid within one week proceedings would be instituted against the council.-Cr. Johnston explained that M'Liver had entered into a contract to complete certain work for a
certain sum; the work had not been completed to the satisfaction of the borough inspector, and fresh tenders haIl been invited at his (M'Liver's) risk. He moved that the balance of the contract, less the amount paid to the Second contractor, be paid to Mr. M'Liver. (ST KILDA COUNCIL.The Telegraph, St Kilda, Prahran and South Yarra Guardian (Vic. : 1866 - 1888) Saturday 23 December 1871 p 3 Article)

John M'Liver, farmer, of Villiers-street, Hotham. Causes of insolvency : High rent and bad crops. Liabilities, £92 5s.; assets, £51 ; deficiency, £41 5s.(P.3,The Age,22-9-1875.)

Tbe following forfeited lands will be open
for selection on and after Friday, Nov. 19 Wanraue-John McLiver, 140 acres.

Friday, 6th October.(Before Judge Noel.) Certificates (of discharge from insolvency)were granted to ...; John M'Liver,Hotham, farmer;etc. (P.6, The Age, 7-10-1876.)

Benalla, 9th December.â .. Shepparton. llth December.â John M'Liver, 192a.,Arcadia.(P.9, Leader,6-12-1884.)

At the Hawthorn Court on Tuesday, before Messrs. Walsh (chairman), Wallis(mayor),Harbison, Nichol, and Stackpole, a man named John M'Liver was charged with assaulting Ann M'Ewen and trespassing on her premises. He was also sued for £12 rent. According to the complainant's story, the defendant, who resided formerly at Malvern, came to her house at Glen Iris, and asked permission to place cattle in her paddock for a fortnight, promising to pay £12. He made proposals to lease her farm, but on referring to her landlord's agents she was refused permission to sub-let. Defendant had meanwhile taken up his abode with her. When requested to leave he not only refused to do so, but broke into the house, assaulted thecomplainant, and turned her furniture out.

In cross-examination by Mr. Gillott for the defence, Mrs. M'Ewen swore that she did not put her mark to a document produced, which proported to be a receipt for a payment by M'Liver on account of improvements purchased from her, and which it was represented would alter the aspect of the case.The point-blank denial of the complainant resulted in the case being adjourned, in order to allow of a witness being brought who, it
was alleged, saw her make her mark upon it. (P.10,Argus,1-4-1885.)

IMPOUNDED at Williamstown, June 10th, 1886, by John M'Liver. Trespass, ld. each.N.B.John was not the poundkeeper. (P.3, Williamstown Chronicle,19-6-1886.)

Discovering DAVEY of Frankston AND Red Hill and Jamieson's Special Survey, Victoria, Australia.

I know that I haven't finished listing the Kangerong grantees and their allotments etc, etc but I'm sort of like a dog with a bone when there's a mystery to solve. And I've solved it. I suggested a link between H.P.Davey (at Forest Lodge, Red Hill) who urged donations for the destitute family of William Connell and the two Davey girls of "Marysville" Frankston but I don't need to suggest any more, and boy, have I found some good stuff!
I do not intend starting to use my trusty left index finger on all of this now, it being nearly 1 a.m. Here's the proof of the connection between Frankston and Red Hill.
(Mornington Standard, 4-11-1911, page 3.) James Davey Esq., a resident of long standing in Frankston, died in Melbourne last Friday (this article would have been written on Friday 3rd). He had suffered a long time from illness and had seemed to recover but.. (I'll leave it for you to find out and post it as a comment.)By the way this is not verbatim.He had resided at St Kilda for the last two years. He was born at Gardiners Creek but lived the greater part of his life at Davey's Bay. He was the second eldest son of James Davey, after whom Davey's Bay was named. For some time the deceased gentleman lived at Red Hill but the greater part of his life was spent at "Marysville" , Davey's Bay, built by his father in 1851. Its slate and timber came from Tasmania and it was the mansion of the district. It was dismantled by A.H.Sargood (probably after John A. and James Davey were ejected by court order at the end of February, 1909.)
He had four daughters and six sons, all of whom moved away apart from Len who is a Mt Eliza Resident.

Before I present information from trove and rate books, I think we had better inspect the family tree, starting with the grandfather of the above, William, old man Davey, after whom Olivers Hill was originally named. William's father, James, was buried in a mousehole! I'll give details of this mousehole tomorrow.
APOLOGY. THE MOUSEHOLE WAS WHERE WILLIAM'S FATHER DIED, NOT WHERE HE WAS BURIED. I WAS SO BUSY THINKING OF MY LITTLE JOKE THAT I CONFUSED THE DETAILS! There is a Melbourne in Victoria and a Melbourne in the U.S.A. There is a Mousehole in Cornwall. It is 3.1 miles south of Penzance. The google map of Mousehole shows that is quite close to Paul which features often in the Davey genealogy.

The following genealogy comes from the Kessell family tree:pedigree of Davey of Frankston, Mornington. There is another website about the Davey family on www.gencircles but I couldn't be bothered with more passwords; however I extracted valuable information from the summary, as follows, detailing the names of the Davey runs and explaining why Mornington is mentioned.
Many Frankston websites mention Davey's Bay and land between Frankston and Mornington but do not give the names.
"In 1840, James Davey took up the Cannanuke pastoral run and Cannanuke Inn near Frankston." (It is possible that the Frankston websites' date of 1846 is a mis-reading of almost illegible writing or that 1840 should be 1846.) "He also had the Ballanrong run, four miles west of Hastings from 1846 until 1851."
Bruce Bennett has reproduced a map of runs south of Frankston in "The Butcher, The Baker, The". One thing that I remember clearly is that no boundary was drawn between Tuerong and Archibald Yuille's Ballanrong. Tuerong stretched south to Merricks Beach between Coolart and Tuck's Mantons Creek and it is likely that the northern boundary of the run, as for the pre-emptive right,was the line of Tuerong Rd. Ballanrong probably went north to Boundary Road (Canadian Bay Rd.) The Ballanrong pre-emptive right was bounded by Racecourse, Bungower, Three Chain (Moorooduc) and Tyabb Rds. The Chechingurk run (Balcombe's The Briars) was west of Ballanrong to the beach and Yan-ti-cran probably stretched along the coast from Sunnyside Rd to the Cannanuke run centred along Davey's Bay.
Historic Dams: Family C-32 (a thoroughbred website) states that William C.Yuille sold Ballanrong and Rockbank in 1852-3 and Yuille's biography says that he bought Ballanrong in 1851 and sold it to his cousin Archibald. Valda Cole provided Graeme Butler with data for the Hastings District Heritage Study,Volume 2 (page 7)about the lessees of Ballanrong: Meyrick (of Coolart)1840, Gorringe 1841-5, Jasper Davey 1845-51, W.C.Yuille 1851, Archie Yuille 1852-7 when lease ended. (In 1858, T.J.Sumner of Stony Park, Melway 30 B8, bought the Ballanrong P.R. while Archie bought land to the west between Tyabb Rd and Tanti Ck, and to the north, bounded by Balcombes Ck/ Wooralla Dr to the roundabout, the line of Wynnstay Rd, Moorooduc Rd and Bungower Rd west to the creek. Another buyer of part of the Ballanrong run was William Robertson, through whose Tanti Park Sheep Station Robertson Dr. now runs.)
The above raises two questions. 1. Was Jasper a nickname or did Valda misread almost-illegible type? 2. Why did the Daveys leave Ballanrong?
I can think of two possible answers to the second question. The period 1943-51 was not a good time for squatters. The depression was as bad as that of the 1890's. The banks would not lend money and graziers could not sell their cattle and sheep. Bruce Bennett details how many Peninsula graziers slaughtered most of their stock and boiled them down for tallow. Raleigh (Maribyrnong) and Coghill (Bulla) established boiling down works and the payment of 5 shillings per sheep helped some squatters to struggle through the slump. The funniest thing is that a squatter, on the run that gave Monageeta (near Mt Macedon) its name, whose ruin was prevented by his estate at Melway 16 H6 being in his wife's name, became the greatest opponent of the squatters.Who's going to be first to put his name in the comments space? Davey might have been close to becoming insolvent.This possibility is increased by the property being mostly used by W.C.Yuille as a thoroughbred stud, rather than for grazing.
The second possibility is that the property was associated with a family tragedy and that daily reminders were too much to bear. Rebecca, daughter of Mr and Mrs Furze, died at Ballanrong on 28-5-1851. Why was that a Davey family tragedy? She was the wife of Old Man (William) Davey and mother of James Davey! It seems that the Daveys shared their time between the two runs, living in fairly basic dwellings and that Ballanrong was Rebecca's favourite place. William and James probably retained the run until her death, but disposed of it shortly afterwards.It seems unlikely that the sale was forced by financial circumstances because James built the mansion, Marysville, in 1851 according to the obituary of James Davey of Frankston and Red Hill.

GENEALOGY. It seems that I don't need to present much Davey genealogy as it is all available on the web. Many of the descendants of the James Davey who died in Mousehole went to South Australia. His son William (Old Man Davey) and accompanying family seem to have spent time near Gardiners Creek before moving south.
If you google JAMES WILLIAM DAVEY, the first listing will be janilye's journal on Family Tree Circles. The writing on his mother's death certificate must have been hard to read and nobody seems to be sure what was the place of death of Rebecca (nee Furze); janilye made the logical assumption that it was Balnarring, the only current place name that bears any resemblance to Ballanrong. She has provided much information regarding the ships that carried Old man Davey (William)and his relations to Australia and where they settled. She also has a picture of the Davey house in Cornwall.
As mentioned before, PEDIGREE OF DAVEY, FRANKSTON, MORNINGTON has extensive genealogical detail, although full details are not available about every family member.
Many descendants of the Davey family have posted in a conversation on Genforum. This will come up first if you google DAVEY, CORNWALL, FRANKSTON.
My immediate task is to find if there is any relationship between Henry Pearce Davey of Forest Lodge, Red Hill and the Frankston Daveys. WATCH THIS SPACE!
Janilye said that H.P.Davey did not seem to be related to the Frankston Daveys and there seems to be no direct relationship.He was apparently born in South Melbourne in 1879 to Mary Ann (nee Pearce) and Thomas James Davey . This is interesting because there seems to be a strong connection between old man Davey's relations who went to South Australia and the Pearce family. His name was Henry Pearce Davey and he married Vivienne Eva Jeannie Thompson on 2-9-1908. The marriage notice is on page 11 of the Argus of 12-9-1908. The strange thing is that a Thomas James Davey born in Bristol in 1844, who came to Australia in 1857, started as a storekeeper at Sale but became an accountant and Lord Mayor of Melbourne 1911-12 and 1912-13, and married three times, had a son called Mr H.P.Davey from his first marriage to a Miss Davis of Tasmania.

My inspection of rate records this morning aimed to locate the properties of H.P. and James Davey at Red Hill. We already know the time of Henry's departure from Red Hill and that he had been there for about ten years (I hope I've told you!)

I discovered that Henry had 190 acres, Kangerong. J.Davey was granted 22 A and B of 78 and a bit acres each. The parish map gives no indication of when these were issued.The western border of this land is that of the Kangerong Nature Conservation Reserve extended north onto Melway map 161 and south to a point where it would meet a line (parallel with the south boundary of the reserve) drawn north west from the bend in Red Hill Rd just north of Darling Park Wines. The north east corner was 120 metres north of the Craig Avon Lane corner. How the rate collector arrived at 190 acres is a mystery. I thought that he had 44 acres to the north of Forest Lodge as well (200 acre total minus now-closed road), but the 1900 rates show that Charles Fritsch had this as well as his other grant, almost 103 acres to the north and fronting Myers Rd from 8 Myers Rd to the Wallaby Downs entrance.Robert Coxon Young's grant of 121 acres to the west of Forest Lodge was not separately assessed and my best guess is that Henry, or J.Davey, had bought 34 acres and the McIlroys (who now had almost 300 acres more than they were granted)had bought the other 87 acres. This 190 acre property was definitely Forest Lodge according to Keith Holmes, who said it was the first property on the right as you entered McIlroys Rd from Red Hill Rd and that the Haigs had owned it later. Strangely Bertram John Davey had land at the south west corner of Jamieson's Special Survey, not far north of Forest Lodge.

James Davey was leasing 160 acres Wannaeue from the Crown by 1875.By 1882, he had only 158 and a bit acres, probably because of road making. Between the time that the 1886-7 and the 1887-8 assessments were prepared, he had become the owner.In 1896-7, James Davey was recorded as the owner of 158 1/2 acres Wannaeue.This was blatantly incorrect! In 1896-7, James Davey, farmer, Frankston, was recorded as owner and occupier of 28a Wannaeue, the only property in the Riding of that size. In 1900-1 and the next year Watts and Stephens, executors of the Davey Estate were assessed on 28a Wannaeue. Where was 28a? It was between Main Creek Rd and Willian Rd, with its north west corner opposite Whites Rd and the south east corner near the end of William Rd. This Wannaeue map also contains the information that James Davey obtained title to the 158 acre 2 rood 7 perch property on 5-9-1878. (It took quite a while for the rate collector to become aware of this, didn't it!)

The family connections entry in my Peninsula District History seeks to explain how the bride and groom met.
Sometimes they had been schoolmates but in a high number of cases they were near neighbours.This is such a case. James Davey (1845-1911), grandson of Old Man Davey and 2nd son of James Davey (depasturing licence for Ballanrong and Cannanuke after whom Davey's Bay was named), married Mary Ann Hillis/ Hillas in Melbourne in 1871, according to Janilye.And where did Mary Ann live? On the other side of Main Creek Rd on 23b Wannaeue who noth and south boundaries were a western extension of those of 28a.William Hillis received the grant for 23b on 10-12-1885 and gained title to 23a on 12-11-1888. The latter block, 480x 500 metres and containing almost 60 acres, could be accessed from Purves Rd via Wilson Rd at its south west corner.
Hill Hillas (as Colin McLear calls him) married James McKeown's sister, Mary, in Ireland and arrived in Red Hill in 1855. (P. 86 A Dreamtime of Dromana.)

It could be dangerous to state emphatically that any Davey who appeared in the Frankston and Red Hill areas was totally unrelated to the Daveys of Frankston. Henry Pearce Davey of Forest Lodge, Red Hill was the son of Thomas Henry Davey, born in Bristol, which is 275 km from Mousehole. It could be that T.H.'s father had originally lived near Mousehole but had fled to escape arrest for smuggling.The Davey and Pearce families had a connection in South Australia.
Another case is that of Bertram John Davey who had 446 acres and buildings, lot 13 and part 14, survey, Kangerong in 1919-20. He was the Managing Director of Edwin Davey and Sons, flour millers and seems to have come from near Burra in South Australia. Lots 13 and 14 in the subdivision sale of the estate of Sir William J.Clarke in 1907 are indicated by Melway F-K 4-6, not far north of lots 23a and b Kangerong and not far from John Oswin's Newstead near Tubbarubba, where Henry Pearce Davey spent a holiday about five years after he had left Forest Lodge.
Henry Pearce Davey was involved at Balnarring where he was a very efficient Secretary of the committee that ran the Sports (athletics etc.) Mary Karney, the author of "The Golden Plains Tabbarubbarel" tells me that the Davey family settled in Balnarring in the 1860's alongside the Oswins and Buckleys etc. (Part of Balnarring Rd was originally called Buckley Rd.) Perhaps J.Davey, who was granted Forest Lodge, was a member of the Balnarring family, brother of Henry Pearce Davey and father of James Davey who found the coral encrusted coal a mile inland near Warrawee. (Wrong, see below!)
Keith Holmes told me that Forest Lodge was the first property on the right when you turned into McIlroys Rd from Red Hill Rd, confirming my description of its location.
The Cannanuke Inn was established by local pastoralist, John Davey,in the 1840's and was the only substantial building when Permien surveyed the township of Frankston, according to the Frankston City Council website. Its site, 1R Plowman St, is heritage listed. Georgiana McCrae of the Arthur's Seat run described Davey's Inn as flea-riddled and spent a sleepless night there on the way to Melbourne. When young George McLear took a fresh horse to Frankston for Charles Graves ( who was due to return soon from Melbourne with goods to hawk all over the Southern Peninsula), he made his way home on foot rather than share Georgiana's problem. Was this the inn that Frank Stone's father ran?

I'M OFF TO THE DROMANA MUSEUM TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE DAVEY FAMILY OF BALNARRING! What a fizzer! It was the Davies family that pioneered in the Balnarring parish. There is good family history in the museum, bound in a green cover. Keith Holmes was at the museum and when I pointed to Davies, Red Hill, in my rates transcriptions, he told me that the surname was actually Davis.

I've now been able to confirm that James Davey (the second son described on page 5) was the grantee of the crown allotments detailed below. A curious thing is that Henry Pearce Davey (son of Thomas James Davey from his first marriage to Miss Davis of Hobart) was a subsequent owner of Forest Lodge. Thomas James Davey was born in Bristol in 1844 and came to Victoria in 1857, starting as a storekeeper in Sale. In 1891 he was elected a Lonsdale Ward councillor and became Lord Mayor of Melbourne in 1910-11 and 1911-12.

Henry Pearce Davey also offered one pound per acre to buy block 55 (242acres) of the Clarke Estate but his offer was knocked back.(P.2, Mornington Standard, 27-4-1907.) To save Davey researchers a lot of frustration, I must point out that there is no lot 55 on Land Plan 4916 (The Clarke Estate.) The lots are numbered 1 to 54 with lots 25 to 54 mainly consisting of 5 acres along the Safety Beach coast.No lot consisted of 242 acres.

I can only guess that H.P.Davey was offering to buy part of lot 14 of 532 acres 3 roods and 32 perches, part of which is now Wallaby Downs (Melway 161 H5.) Lot 14 was about a mile north along Junction Rd from James Davey's grants in the parishes of Kangerong and Balnarring. H.P.Davey was apparently a friend of the Oswins of "Newstead" which was just east of James Davey's grant that became "Seven Oaks", and spent a holiday with them after he had moved to St Kilda.

Davey St, Dromana (Melway J-K 7) on Spencer Jackson's Panoramic Estate (1927), was probably named by Spencer, and suggested by the Dysons who had a keen interest in the area's history, to honour James Davey.

James Davey's grants near Red Hill.
Kangerong 23 a, b 158 161 F-J 10-11 "Forest Lodge". Bisected by DunnsCk Rd.
Balnarring 14a 121 161 K 10, 11 (Gr.20-1-1874) Became Kentucky&Rosslyn.
Balnarring 79a 128 161 J 11,12. Became A.E.Bennett's "Seven Oaks".
Wannaeue 28a 158 190 pt.A, B 5,6 (Gr. 5-9-1878) Later Bullocky Bob White's.

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This warning has been sounded before in regard to registration of births and deaths in country areas, especially in pioneering days where churches and towns were rare. For instance, on the Mornington Peninsula, a birth recorded as being at Point Nepean in the 1850's does not mean that the parents were living there but that an official at the quarantine station was the only registrar available. When townships were proclaimed, registrars, post offices and schools were among the perks but place names on birth and death documents could be misleading. Rye was officially called Tootgarook for well over a decade and a birth registered at Mornington could be described as being at Snapper Point, Schnapper Point or Moorooduc, the name of the parish.

Bullocky Bob White was a resident near Main Creek flowing south from Arthurs Seat for most of his life, maybe from birth and certainly until the last rate record available on microfiche in 1919. His obituary gave his birthplace as Borneo (actually Boneo, a very vague locality circa 1860) and that he died in Rosebud. His death and burial notices described him as a resident of Dromana West! See below.

Often documents and biographies (such as in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS)contain lies. Many bounty passengers lowered their ages on shipping records so they'd qualify for the heavily reduced fare. Bullocky Bob White's obituary's vague year of birth had the same purpose as Robert Henry Adams' lie on his birth certificate that his parents had married before leaving England instead of almost a decade after his birth. My great grandfather gave his year of arrival as 1867 rather than 1864 to hide his indenture to John Hall, being by 1888 a prominent resident and councillor of the Shire of Broadmeadows unwilling to reveal his humble beginnings.

Born at Borneo(sic) in the eighteen-fifties*, Mr. Robert White, of Rosebud**,died on Saturday, May 3, at the age of 86*** years. The late Mr. White, whose passing is mourned by a large circle of friends, leaves a widow, a daughter sons. The funeral took place on Monday, May 5, at Dromana Cemetery.
A service was conducted at the home of Rev. R. C. McLean, who also read the burial service. A tribute to Mr. White's useful life was paid by Cr. Greaves at the graveside. He said that the large attendance at the funeral indicated the high esteem in which deceased had been held by the people in the surrounding districts The late Mr. White had been a good churchman and a fine citizen. Many beautiful floral tributes were sent.
Six of the late Mr. White's sons bore the coffin, and the pall-bearers were:- Messrs. E. Bright, G. James,D. James, J. Hobley, Ivan White, C.White and E. White.(P.5, Standard, 9-5-1941.)

(*Before his mother arrived? **Probably a Rosebud property left to him by Charles and Janet James, his parents.***About 81 if we deduct 1860 from 1941 and if we take his age as gospel, he was born in 1855 when his mother was still in the old country.)

It is generally accepted that Bullocky Bob White was born in about 1860, his mother being Janet White (born 1839 or 1844) who travelled to Australia on the John Linn, arriving in Melbourne on 25-6-1859. His father, Charles James (Born 1831, SALISBURY WILTSHIRE ENGLAND, died 23 01 1907, MORNINGTON VIC) was buried at Dromana Cemetery on what was calculated to be 24-1-1907.

Robert White's birthplace was Boneo, not Borneo but the name was used to describe the area along today's Browns Rd between Main Ridge and Truemans Rd in early days so he could have been born on the James property at Melway 254 J1 or the Cairns brothers' Little Scotland at 170 B10, where Janet's father Robert White (1804-1881) was recorded as renting a hut from the Cairns Bros. in the Kangerong Road Board's first assessment of 1864. As the exact date of Bullocky Bob's birth is not known, Charles White may not have been his biological father; Janet may have become pregnant aboard the John Linn.

The information in Bullocky's obituary was probably the result of his desire to muddy the waters when asked any questions or perhaps on his marriage certificate when he married Hannah Roberts. (Robert Henry Adams of Rosebud did the latter re the year and place of his parents' marriage to disguise his illegitimacy.)

Charles James and JANET WHITE, (Born: 1844 (?) , MENSTRIE CLACKMANNANSHIRE SCOTLAND Married: 25 07 1864, WANNAEUE VIC (MI: 2603) Died: 1921) were not married until after Bullocky was born and their first legitimate child may have been Elizabeth (born 1865) who married William Hobley. Janet's birth year above (1844) was probably from her marriage certificate and another attempt to muddy the waters. Stephen Lynch gives her year of birth as 1839 between Henry (1834) and Ann (1842). Janet' mother, Elizabeth, died shortly after giving birth to Elizabeth (1850-1850) and this was no doubt in her mind when she named her own baby in 1865.

Robert was raised as Robert Charles but that was not what his birth certificate said.He was so incensed at being kept in the dark about the the circumstances of his birth he was said to have cut contact with his mother and changed his name to that on the birth certificate, Robert White. Janet's younger brother, Robert White (born 1849) had probably moved to the Red Hill area by this time and acquired the nickname of Blooming Bob White because he never swore at his bullocks, using this word instead. His nephew, the former Robert James (under which name he was granted 27A1, Wannaeue) was referred to as Bullocky Bob White.
(Sources:PIONEERS OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA Stephen Lynch: charles james - Great Southern Pioneers

I'd tried in vain to find Bullocky's death notice with a WHITE ROSEBUD 1941 FAMILY NOTICES search on trove. No wonder I didn't find it. I seem to recall an assessment for "James" on c/a 19 Wannaeue, between Parkmore Rd and Adams Ave and this was probably where Bullocky was living when he died, and why the funeral procession left from the lighthouse. Only a year or two later his residence would have been described as being in McCrae. Family historians should take notice that the same location was likely to be described by more than one place name until about 1950, that places of birth and death may have been where the event was recorded bby a registrar or a hospital (say in Mornington or Melbourne respectively) where the mother or deceased had been admitted prior to the event because of an expected difficult birth or a serious illness/ incapacity that required expert medical care.

WHITE. —On May 3, at Dromana West, Robert, beloved husband of Mary, fond father of George, Chris, Eden, Ern, Fred, Lily (Mrs. Bright), Jack, and Will, aged 86 years. —At rest. (P.4, Argus, 5-5-1941.)

WHITE-The Friends of ROBERT WHITE late of Main Ridge are respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, Dromana Cemetery.
The funeral will leave the South Channel Lighthouse at 3 p m THIS DAY (Monday). HECTOR GAMBLE Funeral Director. (P. 4 as above.)


Donald attended the Keilor school and knew the area,its pioneers and the coach drivers who passed through intimately. He became a pupil teacher at the school in 1876, and soon moved into journalism. Such details are available in his biography*, but not his act of bravery in 1899** at the age of about 40, which prompted this journal.
(*Macdonald, Donald Alaster - Australian Dictionary of Biography - ANU


Professor Ernest Scott wrote a tremendous tribute to Donald (P.7, The Australasian,December 3,1932), starting with:
"The best of companions for a ramble, interested in everything, amusing, considerate, always ready for a chat with any farm hand, sportsman or swagman, and getting something from everybody he met and everything he saw."

The date of birth given in the biography would seem to be wrong, given his death in 1932 aged 75. No record could be found of Donald's birth in Victoria that conforms to the names of the parents in his death record. Confirmation of his birth at Fitzroy (but not in 1859)is given in one of the many tributes following his death in 1932. "Mr Macdonald was in his 76th year,having been born at Fitzroy in 1857. His boyhood was spent in Keilor." (

EventMarriage Event registration number1017 Registration year1883
Personal information
Family nameSEWARD Given namesJessie SexFemale Spouse's family nameMCDONALD Spouse's given namesDonald Alaster

EventDeath Event registration number3349 Registration year1932
Personal information
Family nameMCDONALD Given namesDonald Alex SexUnknown Father's nameMcdonald Donald Mother's nameMargaret (Harris) Place of birth Place of deathBlack R Age75

Mr Donald Macdonald, the well-known journalist, naturalist and author, died on November 23.
(P.6, Weekly Times, 26-11-1932.)

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 13 October 1928 p 8 Article Illustrated

Donald's heroic deed was performed at Lorne which is mentioned in this article about early coach drivers and Donald's regard for them.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 2 December 1932 p 7 Article

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Considering that Douglas Picking probably helped to maintain tourism in Dromana after the days of the steamers,it is amazing that the only mention of his fauna park in Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA was in relation to a fire described on page 146.

The local police would not allow fire fighters into what old-timers know as Russell's. This had been the site of American Marine manoeuvres in preparation for later Pacific island landings....much live ammunition had been lying in the paddocks. We local children had thought we had collected most of it,but in the face of the firefront,what we had missed was exploding, posing a serious risk to life and limb,hence the police ban. We therefore took ourselves on to Paterson's (sic) opposite Picking's Fauna Park,where with support from Australian troops from Balcombe we battled the fire there.

As rate records and the subdivision plan of Clarke's Estate on the Survey show, "Patterson's" was lots 18 and 19 of the Clarke Estate,286 acres north of Wallaces Rd (known to old-timers as Patterson's Lane), east of Pt Nepean Rd, and indicated by Melway 160 K2, part 1, 161A-B1,2,part 3, 151 B12,west third of C12. Pickings Lane is across Pt Nepean Rd from the south west corner of Patterson's and it is possible that Douglas built Bluestone Cottage (Mel. 160 G2)at the north west corner of lot 9, the old Griffith family homestead block.

To confirm or repudiate this, I will have to find a two or three year old email I sent to the shire Heritage Planning Officer, Simon Lloyd, when I was in the midst of trying to save the heritage of Rosebud and Dromana. Found it!
9/17/11 to Simon
While assembling Safety Beach information from trove, it suddenly occurred to me that Bluestone Homestead might have been a pioneer's home.( Located at the end of Pickings Rd (Melway 160 D2) it might have had a connection with D.Picking's peacock farm/fauna park.)
It requires no investigation as the only item of historical interest is the builder, Hanson, a descendant of Hec Hanson's grandfather who arrived in Balnarring in 1887.It was built in about 1980.
This was run by the owner as Bluestone Homestead cottages, which is still on the internet but has not operated as a bed and breakfast for some years. This information comes from the owner.
I suggest that this house be listed with a status "of little interest" with its only links to history being through the builder's pioneering family and the use of a material (bluestone) that had not been much used for over a century. With this information recorded, much precious assessment time will be saved in case somebody (like me) thinks the house has significance.

The following shows that Douglas had land on both sides of Pt Nepean Rd,perhaps including Godfrey Ralph Patterson's lots 18 and 19 and land farther east through which the creeks flow.

From where did D.Picking come?
Where was his Fauna Park exactly?
Where was his grant near Red Hill?
The answers to these questions disappeared when I lost my internet connection and had to reboot my computer to regain it. Wisely I had copied it but unwisely I didn't paste it into a word file and lost the lot.

When I saw yesterday's Southern Peninsula News (24-3-2015) the first question was answered. What part of Frankston? Long Island according to Doug's wedding notice. Pickings Road and Lane give an indication of the
location of Doug's 1000 acres on the survey, fronting Pt Nepean Rd. The creeks named seem to indicate that his land was near Tubbarubba. Doug's 2.125 acre grant (28C Kangerong) near Red Hill was between White Hill Rd and Old White Hill Rd west of Melbourne Water's Dromana Reservoir.

Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Wednesday 18 October 1922 p 2 Article
... . Pick-ing, of Long Island, Frankston, and brother to Mesdames J. L. Pratt and J. B. Jolly, of Frankston.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 14 August 1933 p 10 Article.


Douglas Picking,his wife Beatrice and, presumably, his second wife, were buried at the Mornington cemetery.
1247 PICKING Douglas Robert 6/7/1971 72 Drom
1247 PICKING Beartice DeCardi 5/6/1956 56 nee Phillips*, Morn
3145 PICKING Lily b1908 d1996 Nee Moses

The wedding of Mr. Douglas Picking, son of Mr. and Mrs. R. T. Picking, of Long Island, Frankston, and brother to Mesdames J. L. Pratt and J. B. Jolly, of Frankston, and Miss Beatrice Phillips, daughter of the Rev. and Mrs W. A. Phillips, of Glenhuntly, took place recently at St.Agnes' Church, Glenhuntly. Canon Langley officiated. The bride was frocked in ivory satin with beaded georgette, side panels, and carried a pink and white bouquet. Mrs. Picking, senr., was attired in nigger* brown velour, and Mrs. Phillips, sen.wore blade charmeuse. (P.2,Frankston and Somerville Standard, 18-10-1922.)
*No journalist would dare write that apt description of colour today!

PICKING.-On June 5, at Mornington, Beatrice De Cardi Picking,darling wife of Douglas Picking,Fauna Parks, Dromana, aged 56 years. -Those glorious years we had together, dearest. You know I will always love you sweetheart mine. (Doug.)
PICKING.-On June 5. at Mornington, Beatrice De Cardi Picking, the devoted wife, a brave and loving mother of Robert, Douglas(U.S.A.), Bruce, Marianne (Mrs.J. Cameron-Begg), and Warwick,mother-in-law of Molly and Cam,
grandmother of John, Lynette,Juanita, Ann, Jeanie (U.S.A.) and Warwick.
PICKING.-On June 5, at Mornington, Beatrice de Cardi Picking, loved mother of Bruce and Val.
(P.12, Argus,6-6-1956.)

Mr Robert T. Picking
Mr Robert Thomas Picking, who died at Frankston on Friday last, was on the staff of Lamson, Paragon Ltd for about 40 years. He retired about 12 years ago. Mr Picking, who was in his 84th year, is survived by a son, Mr Douglas Picking, of Dromana, and two daughters, Mrs J. L.Pratt and Mrs J. B Jolly, of Frankston.
(P.6, Argus, 18-2-1947.)

Mr Douglas Picking, now residing at Dromana, still has at heart the success of the Frankston New Year's Day sports, hence Portsea, Rosebud,Dromana and Mornington are displaying widely the programmes in connection with Frankston's big New Year's Gala Day.

Mr. R.T. Picking has posted New Year's Day sports programmes in business windows in many towns of the State, from the seaside town of Queenscliff to far distant Mildura, and this effort on behalf of the well known traveller serves to at least advertise Frankston in the inland towns of the State.
(P.3, Frankston and Somerville Standard,30-11-1923.)

Doug's son flew the coop. Does the Dromana R.S.L.Branch know about Robert and Doug junior.
PICKING-DWYER. —On October 23, at St.Andrew's Church of England, Summer Hill, Sydney, by Archdeacon Bidwell, Amelia Mary, only daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. J. T. Dwyer, of Dulwich Hill and Tamworth, to Robert William Leith Picking (R.A.A.F. returned), eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. Douglas Picking, of Fauna Parks, Dromana, Victoria.(P.2,Argus, 20-11-1943.)

Water birds, such as young Doug, were also involved in aviculture! Both Robert and Doug Junior had Leith as a given name so I suspect this was the maiden name of R.T.'s wife.
Mr. and Mrs. Douglas Picking were the recipients of good news this week,when a letter was received from their
son, Douglas, from New-York. Almost in the same mail, they received a letter from a lady in East Africa, who had entertained Douglas whilst his boat was in port there. Doug. is in the Merchant Navy, and his parents had not heard from him for two years. His brother, Bob, who is in the RAAF, and has seen active service, is at present in Dromana with his young wife.(P.4 Standard,Frankston,16-3-1944.)

(P.23,The Australasian, 8-10-1932.)
N.B. It was the boy's father's success (retold 100 years later in the Southern Peninsula News) with his old English sheepdog, Frankston Lorna Doone,that led to this journal.

Val,one of the article I found last night was a photo of several Mornington Shire councillors at the fauna park
with Mr Kirton. That's what I've been looking for.(Picking, Dromana search on trove.)I'd better get back to my Memories of Red Hill journal or I'll be lynched.

Val Wilson, whose fabulous research into the pioneers buried in this cemetery can be found on the website below, has been informed about the Douglas Picking story in an email containing the part in italics above.
Pioneer Graves in the Mornington Cemetery
Here Mrs Valerie Wilson of Mornington & District Historical Society, documents the known details of a selection of pioneers and early settlers now resting in the ...

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Who's Doug Bachli?
Sport Australia Hall of Fame - Athlete Members
Bachli MBE, Mr Douglas, Golf, 1987. Baker, Mr Reginald 'Snowy', Boxing, Rugby Union, Diving, Swimming, Polo, 1985. Bannerman, Mr Charles, Cricket, 1986.

The rough location of the Patron Park Stud was discovered during my research for the HERITAGE WALK, ROSEBUD journal. As the stud was actually in Dromana but my HERITAGE WALK,DROMANA journal deals with sites on or near the Esplanade, I thought a new journal was the best idea.

The Rosebud journal gives much information about the Bachli family under the ROSEBUD HOTEL entry. Both Rosebud and Dromana had their share of famous people and we Rosebud residents are willing to share Doug with Dromana.

The Bachli family seems to have been involved in the hospitality industry for some time before Doug's father, John Phillip (Phil)took on Rosebud's long- awaited hotel in 1941. Frank (probably Doug's great uncle) ran a hotel at Ararat pre 1916, Doug's father had a hotel at Shepparton before moving to Canberra in the mid 1930's,probably to look after his father, William, and run Brassey House for him. After leaving Rosebud,Doug, three years after his marriage to Dorothy and living in Surrey Hills, took on a hotel in Melbourne in 1956.

Phil and Doug were passionate about the Sport of Kings but I have found no evidence of their involvement in this pursuit before their arrival in Rosebud. Their horses certainly competed after this time at Canberra and no doubt the opportunity was taken to meet old friends still living there.

While the Patron Park Stud was being established, Doug was probably running the hotel and helping Phil to erect stables, fencing etc. on the 48 acre stud whenever he could so the footy ground across the road from the Rosebud Hotel was probably instrumental in honing the skills that won him the 1954 British Amateur Championship. Along with this and his service in W.W.2 (see comment under the ROSEBUD journal), Doug spent precious little time on golf courses in the first half of the 1940's.

Trove searches for the location of the stud involved many fruitless hours and the following was discovered in a google search for PATRON PARK STUD,DROMANA. Of course Harbison Rd had to be Harrisons Rd. The stud was probably being sold by the Doody family which had bought it from Doug; they had another stud at Diggers Rest.

"patron Park" .Harbison .Road Dromana Stud .Farm, Freehold.

PAGE 14, THE AGE, JUNE 10, 1964.
THURSDAY, JUNE 18,at 2:30 p.m., on the Property
Firstly to be offered in one lot of approx.48 acres but if not sold to be offered in two lots.
COMPRISING: (1)36 acres 3 roods 33 perches approx.; (2) 12 acres approx.
LOT 1 (a) Delightful 6 roomed weatherboard dwelling with 3 roomed S.C. flat. Together with all floor coverings,light fittings, and shades, blinds and drapes.
(b) Complete stud farm consisting of 10 divided agistment paddocks,loose boxes,State Rivers water connected to each paddock,Saddling yards, stables, feed sheds &c.
LOT 2 is a vacant lot of land divided into approx.four paddocks with State Rivers water connected to each paddock.
Terms 10%deposit,balance 60 days.
For inspection and prior offers,please contact:
Phone 24 6681 or 28 Chester St,Oakleigh. 569 0661.

The actual location of the 48 acres is yet to be pinpointed. A possible Doody descendant at Sunbury or Doug's son,Paul, might be able to help me. What is of interest is that no training track was mentioned. My guess is that the stud was close to Melway 160 H-J 7-8 where 117 acres,DROMANA RACECOURSE was gazetted in 1872.

*pdf 525kB - Golf Society of Australia
Mar 10, 2000 - Vale - Douglas William Bachli - (1922 - 2000). The Golf Society of Australia lost ... of his son Paul, “I have lost my hero” - we have all lost a hero.

There was only one Bachli in White Pages for the whole of Melbourne. He was Doug's son but he had never seen Patron Park Stud. However,he gave me the mobile number of Doug's youngest son,Paul. I rang Paul but there was no answer and I left a message. Paul rang back first thing this morning. He knew where it was and spoke of black gates and the new name of Palimino Stud. He said the stud was near the Tech.School. As I drove north past the school, there was no sign of black gates. When I reached the north end of the recreation reserve with the subdivision of the Moat family's grants on my left,I knew it was time to turn around. That was when I saw the sign: PALiMINO STUD. It was 59 Harrisons Rd. Then I saw a Californian Bungalow with a four wheel drive in front of it but no driveway. This had to be the delightful weatherboard house of 1964 but I had to drive past it to the black gates with Palimino Stud wrought upon them.

As I walked up the driveway two pairs of eyes watched me warily. I introduced myself and explained my purpose to the older pair of eyes which filled with enthusiasm. Their owner showed me the stables (feed room,tack room,stalls with sliding doors which still slide beautifully and the concrete pad outside the feed room on which stood a silo which fed the feedboxes. Then he escorted me through the self contained three roomed flat attached to the north east corner of the house,and told me that the foundations of the six roomed weatherboard house had been compressed when somebody had substituted heavy terra cotta tiles for corrugated iron. The house, flat and stabling were all on five acres with grapevines on a paddock behind them. There is a lane on the north side of the house along which feed could probably be carried to each of the specified 10 agistment paddocks but Patron Park probably also extended to the south as well as east.

As we walked toward the black gates, I asked the owner his name and how to spell the surname. It was Frank Hilli* and I knew immediately why he hadn't been to the BACK TO RED HILL reunion on March 22, 2015. He mentioned the old passion fruit factory in Harrisons Rd and I told him about Barry Wright's photo of it in my MEMORIES OF RED HILL,POST 1940 journal. He told me it was now the Whispering Vines Cafe,done up beautifully with brick cladding and it certainly does look great,up the long drive from the impressive brick entrance (TOLLEO ESTATE?)

*There was a four day Hilli/ Cleine reunion on the same weekend that I only found out about after the hall had been booked and the date of the BACK TO RED HILL was publicised.

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This is the death record of John Dunbar Tweeddale/ Tweedale.
EventDeath Event registration number2471 Registration year1897
Personal information
Family nameTWEEDALE Given namesJno Dunbar SexUnknown Father's nameTweedale Jas Mother's nameMargt (Dunbar) Place of birth Place of deathMelb E Age82

It is possible that the doctor's father was a Melbourne merchant who had died by 1868 and the J.W.Tweeddale listed on the Wannaeue parish map as the grantee of crown allotment 1 of section A bounded by Old Cape Schanck, Grasslands and Browns Rds south of Rosebud of which the Tudor Caravan Park at Melway 170E 7/8 was part.

While researching for my review of Rosalind Peatey's SETTING THE SPIRIT FREE, I discovered that one of the Southern Peninsula pioneers had died, probably in Melbourne, despite the efforts of Dr. Tweedale of Essendon, and, as they say, curiosity killed the cat! I found a great story about the doctor and other pioneers living near the junction of Steele Creek and the Maribyrnong River at Melway 27 J4.

Paste the following into your search bar to get the Wannaeue and Doutta Galla parish maps: See c/a 1 of A south of Jetty Rd. Map 1.
Before we get to the story, here is much information about the doctor such as his background as a Naval Surgeon, his family and various residences over the years as well as his having been "Acting Health Officer and Superintendent of the Quarantine Station at Point Nepean 1885, 1888, 1890, 1896 (VGG)"

Section 12 Doutta Galla was known as Main's Estate. It was subdivided in quite early days. Between Rosehill Rd and Buckley St were two farms: Sinclair's farm of 114 acres from Rachelle Rd to Steele Creek and 112 acres 2 roods and 19 perches owned by Dougal McPhail from the creek to Hoffmans Rd.

South of Mains Estate was the Aitken estate, by then leased by Robert McDougall who had commenced his renowned breeding of Booth-strain Shorthorn cattle in the early 1850's on "Cona" on the Glenroy estate and in 1872 would move onto Arundel in Tullamarine where he'd built a mansion that survives today with the balconied facade replaced by fenestration as the architects call it. Main had possibly bought his estate because of the bluestone available in Spring Gully and John Aitken would have bought section 8 as a depot where his sheep could rest on the way to market after crossing the original Solomons Ford at Melway 27 C9 (not 27 B8 as claimed.)

Peter McCracken, who'd rented Stewarton (today's Gladstone Park) 1846-55, owned "Ardmillan" the south half of crown allotment B section 6 and had moved from his dairy south of Derby St at Kensington into his new mansion which was located on present 33-37 (if I remember correctly) Ardmillan Rd, on the uphill side of Smith's Lane in about 1857.

Doctor Tweedale, having been a naval surgeon, would have needed and gained knowledge of European languages and was thus able to translate for the court.

The black man who'd been assaulted could well have been another Cape Verde Islander and speaking Portugese rather than Spanish; he was employed by Robert McDougall on section 8. Catherine Sinclair's maiden name was McIntyre as shown by the court report but I could not find her death record to confirm this.


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