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This journal results from a private message conversation between myself and Shah, who has consented to her information being published.

Very interested in all you have written about the Mornington Peninsula.
In regard to the Thistles in Boneo Road. My grandparents ran this as a guest house around the 1930s. I understand it was then a double storey house.
Would this be correct and is there anything else you could tell me about it?
Researching Moser, Rogers, Munday, Bennett, Dixon, Pilbeam, Belsar, Parkinson, Fitzgibbon, amongst others.
Thank you

Hi Shah. You referred to "The Thistle" by which I presume you mean "The Thicket". This was bounded by First Avenue, Eastbourne Rd and Boneo Rd and contained the curving streets such as Warranilla Ave. It adjoined the Hope St houses which were part of "Hindhope", a farm which occupied the northern half of crown allotment 14 Wannaeue.

Unfortunately I know very little about The Thicket. The late Ray Cairns told me that the homestead was near the site of the church that stands at the corner of Boneo Rd and The Drive. I need to know the name of your grandfather who ran the guest house in what must have been an extension of the homestead described below. The only mentions of The Thicket seem to be the following sale notice and a fire and a brief advertisement re holiday accommodation in shallays (chalets) in the 1940's. With a bit more information, I might be able to find other articles or advertisements about the property on trove.

At One O'Clock. On the Premises.
McInnes, Whinfield, and Co. (late J.K. Jennings and McInnes) have received Instructions to SELL , on the above date A farm property, consisting of 56 ac. 2 rd. 22 perches, situated close to Rosebud township, and only a stone-throw from the water frontage,
A good house, consisting of 5 rooms and conveniences, is erected on the property, including a garage, extra good well equipped bails and sheds, machinery shed, pig run and sty, buggy shed, chaffhouse, &c, &c.
The properly is subdivided into 7 paddocks. This includes three very good orchards, peaches, apple, pears, and other fruit in full bearing, and is watered by windmill, pipes laid, and an abundant supply.
CATTLE. 14 dairy cows, 3 heifers, 3 bullocks, 1 bull, 4 calves.
HORSES. 1 draught gelding 5 years old; 1 medium draught mare, 7 years old, extra good.
PIGS.-2 sows with broods, 1 boar.
IMPLEMENTS.-Seed drill, disc plough, 2 single furrow ploughs, cultivator, mower, 1 set harrows, 1 grindstone, 1 spray pump, 1 portable engine (Richardson), 1 shellcrusher, I chaffcutter, complete with belt; shovel, forks, garden utensils,
&c, 2 incubators, 3 brooders, pair of scales.
HARNESS. 2 sets of buggy harness, 1 set of dray harness, collars, and hames.
DAIRY.-Separator (Globe No. 1), 2 milk churns, 2 butter churns.
FURNITURE. 4 bedsteads and mattresses, chest of drawers, small tables, washstand &c.
VEHICLES.-1 dray, 1 springcart, 1 buggy, 1 phaeton.
Terms on Land Purchase 1230 may remain on mortgage for 3 years, bearing 5 per cent. interest,balance cash.
The auctioneers have inspected this property, and have to report that it is a snug, comfortable home, well equipped, and a very fine front garden. The land is good black sandy loam, and well suited for growing maize, lucerne, onions, and the like, and, being within a stone-throw of the bay frontage, must eventually command a big price for building blocks. We strongly recommend it as a comfortable home and a good Investment.
Further particulars from McInnes, Whinfield, and Co., 411 Bourke street, Melbourne.
Local representative, Mr. Jennings, land and estate agent, Rosebud.
(P.3,The Argus,27-5-1922.)

Yes, I did mean the Thicket! My great grandparents names were Sydney and Mary (May) Moser. My grandmother Mona Moser was married there. She married Bartholomew Rogers who had bakeries in Rosebud and then managed the pine plantation*. (*See "Bogies and Birdies" the history of the Rosebud Country Club-itellya.)
Are you interested in my grandparents businesses and where they lived etc?
Bartholomew (Barty) Rogers was on many committees such as the building of the local high school and memorial hall. He has a road named after him in Cape Schanck where he owned a lot of land at one stage.
Thank you for your reply.

I'd love any information concerning your ancestors in relation to Rosebud and the Mornington Peninsula. I think I remember Peter Wilson mentioning Bart Rogers in relation to the memorial hall.

Did your great grandparents own just the homestead block of The Thicket or the whole (almost) 57 acres? Did they know Keith McGregor who had probably leased the homestead block from Alf Rawlings while he ran the transport business and owned Hindhope Villa (50 First Avenue) after his return from the Western District?

Who were their friends in the area? Was Cr.Forrest Edmund (Joe) Wood one of them? If you have any anecdotes in the family folklore about funny incidents, accidents, events etc., I'd love to hear about them.

When did the Mosers arrive in the area from Swan Hill and what was M.A.Moser doing at Dromana in 1948? I presume this was Murray who escaped serious injury in 1938 while presumably living at Rosebud. Did Murray run a garage in Rosebud West?
MOTOR Mechanic A grade or equivalent experience Furnished house
available right man reasonable rent Apply giving complete details of qualifications and experience M Moser Chatfeld ave Rosebud West
(The Argus, Saturday 17 July 1948, p 18 Advertising.)

Just in case you haven't used TROVE, I'll include the articles referred to above.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 24 October 1938 p 3 Article
... CAR SNAPS POST ROSEBUD, Sunday.-Struck - Struck by a motor-car when it swerved after a collision lision with another car this afternoon, an electric light pole on the Sorrento road was snapped off at the base. The driver of the car, Mr. Murray Moser, escaped with a cut nose and a passenger ... 80 words

Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 18 March 1948 p 11 Article
... T. Atherton (Rosebud), H. Atherton (Main Ridge), R. Donaldson (B3alnarr ing), J. Fanning, L. ... W. G. Cochrane (Merricks), W. Pedley, W. Brace (Red Hill South), G. Brasser, MA. Moser (Dromana), ... 292 words

I also tried Rogers, Rosebud and found this one.
P G Rogers of Rosebud applied to the board for permission to carry with one commercial vehicle goods within a radius of 20 miles of Rosebud. He applied also for permission to carry goods to and from Flinders and Portsea to places within a radius of five miles of the G P O Melbourne. Tho application was opposed by the railways E G
White. W A Peterson and B A Cairns The board reserved its decision.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 1 September 1938 p 12 Article)

Hello again,
I will have to get back to you re some of the questions. Yes, Murray Moser ran a garage in West Rosebud that has in the past few years been knocked down and there are units and a café there. Dad has just told me they bought a house that was at the back of where the garage was they lived in. I am regularly on Trove.
I have found my grandfather Barty better by searching for BP Rogers. He owned Bakeries in Kilmore and I've found recently Hurstbridge, but not at the same time.
I think the Moser's arrived in Rosebud quite possibly in 1938. I have a photo of my grandmother Mona standing in a garden, that mum thinks was the Thicket. Only shows a palm tree in the background. My grandmother's father Sydney Moser worked on the Rosebud Hotel, bricklaying (I think). They would not have owned the Thicket but probably rented it. They weren't well off due to my great grandfather's roaming.
They lived quite a number of places in Victoria before settling in Rosebud.
His father Herman Frederick Moser was a quite well known photographer and was involved in getting the bridge over the Murray in Swan Hill. He was the first person to take bullocks and dray across it; though I don't think he was supposed to!
The Mosers were distantly related to cricketer (Pontrose?) who owned a holiday home in Rosebud on the corner of Point Nepean Road and Rose Road. Sydney Murray Moser was born in Deniliquin in 1888 and married Mary Ann (May) Bennett in Deniliquin in 1910. May Bennett was a granddaughter of two convicts Elizabeth Taylor and Samuel Benjamin Bellamy Bennett. Her maternal great grandfather has an island named after him near Swan Hill called Belsar's Island. Barty Rogers had two bakeries at different times in Rosebud, one where the now ANZ bank was and the other where the men's wear shop is now next to Peebles. This shop was more of a milk bar/mixed business which granddad owned with May Moser. I rang Dad, Charlie Munday,to ask where grandad's 2nd shop was and he said he thought the information you have about Bill Chatfield may not be correct as he doesn't remember him fishing. He had a truck and did cartage work and put in Electric power poles etc. Murray Moser bought the garage from him and when they extended the garage, this is where the house was moved back. It is no longer there. Chatfield also built a shop next to the garage where a Tattoo place is now. Dad also said there was a man called Chadwick and another man called Lynch who ran the store. Lynch went on holiday to Queensland and drowned. The PG Rogers you found about permission for cartage may well have been my grandfather except they have the initials wrong. He did carry bricks etc. He used to buy concrete bricks my other grandfather Charles Munday made.
Charles Munday (my dad has the same name) used to sell the bricks to Barty and Barty would often return to buy more as he had lost some of his load on the journey.
Dad's side Charles William Munday and Amy Evelyn Munday(nee Parkinson) came to Rosebud on the 12th March 1946 and lived in a shed just behind where McDonalds is now. Grandad then built a house and built units in Fourth Avenue that still stand though are totally changed now. He also built the house opposite which is now behind the Tyre place. My grandparents ran a boat hire place where the Scout hall now stands. They then built a house in Murray Anderson Road and lived there until my grandfather's death in 1976. Barty and Mona Rogers and their children lived in the old pine house that used to stand beside the drive to the Rosebud Football Ground. They then built a brick home opposite the site of the present high school but this was demolished by the power company who used the land. They built another home two doors down that still stands in Boneo Road.
I will speak to my Uncle (mum's brother) as he may remember more.
Thanks for taking the time to record all this; it is fascinating!

This is fantastic because I rely on rates (available only until 1919) and old residents for most of my information, many of the latter having now died. With so many changes (e.g. McDonald's, the transmission station on the Boneo/Eastbourne corner that you mention, K.F.C.-formerly a caravan park mentioned in one of my journals etc),only people that have "been there; done that" can fill the gaps.

In regard to William Chatfield, he had been a fisherman before becoming a shopkeeper,living in a hut on the foreshore which was probably taken over by a (Swede)who is mentioned by Vin Burnham in his memories of Rosebud in the early days. Vin (Owen) had forgotten his surname but I've got it somewhere.(Axel Vincent!)
See "Life in Rosebud in the early years: by Vin Burnham |‎
By Owen Vincent (Vin) Burnham. Unknown-3 When I was quite young (about seven, early 1920s) the Nepean Highway was a gravel and dirt road right up to ..."

In seeking information about William Chatfield, I made the fascinating discovery that residents of Rosebud West and Tootgarook had decided to call the area "Eastbourne".
At a public meeting held at Eastbourne a committee of management, consisting of Messrs D.Cairns, W.Chatfield, F.Luscombe, and W.Truman, was formed to take over control of portion of the foreshore between Rye and Rosebud. It was decided to name the locality Eastbourne.
(P.15, Argus,23-6-1926.)

Eastbourne is the name given to his West Rosebud grant by Sidney Smith Crispo and used by Edward Williams, his great friend when he took over the property before Crispo's death in 1899. Williams had a new limestone homestead built at 17 William Crescent, and the name now applies to the primary school and Eastbourne Rd as well as the historic house.

Eleanora Davey Cairns lived at Eleanora, which was also built in the early 1900's and having been donated to the Alfred Hospital as a nurses' refuge,is now part of the Rosebud Hospital. Luscombe might have been a poultry farmer at Rosebud West,perhaps on "Woyna" east of the Truemans Rd corner. William Trueman had the eastern half of the land granted to his father,James. This land was later occupied by poultry farmer, Alf Doig, who was responsible for the area west of Truemans Rd being officially named Tootgarook. It is possible that the shire had denied a request for Eastbourne as an official name because of possible confusion with another place in Victoria of that name. (The Pascoe Vale Girls' School, established in a prominent house named Mt. Sabine could not be given that name because of such a situation.)

In the Sands and McDougall directory of 1950,Bartholomew P. Rogers is listed as a Rosebud resident and M.Moser, motor garage,was one of 24 Rosebud West residents. Also listed under Rosebud were Charles W. and Ernest H.Munday.

One thing I need to establish is the location of the Narooma Guest House. Jim Dryden said it was between First Avenue and Boneo Rd but his brother, Bill, claims it was on the site of McDonalds.

What I would like to do is write a journal about Rosebud, featuring your families, in the form of a conversation. In other words,to copy and paste our conversation, deleting any info of a private nature or that you don't want published. Something like MOSER, ROGERS AND MUNDAY MEMORIES OF ROSEBUD,VIC., AUST. How does that appeal to you?

Eastbourne Rd was a government road shown in the survey of the parish of Wannaeue. In about 1900,It was known as Ford's Lane because of Cr William Ford who had earlier owned the Wannaeue Estate bounded by Jetty Rd, Hiscock Rd (which continued eastward to the Old Cape Schanck/Jetty Rd corner), Boneo Rd and Eastbourne Rd. Later it was owned by Jack Raper (apparently pronounced Roper for obvious reasons)and the lane was known to locals as Roper's Lane by such as Ray Cairns and Bill Dryden.Jack built the house on the east side of the Olympic Park driveway in which Bart Rogers lived. Its demolition illustrates how little effort the shire has made to document Rosebud's heritage; thank goodness my curiosity has saved the Boyd Cottage in Rosebud Pde!

Hello again,
My father has given me some names and places you may be interested in.
I also know other old locals if you would like their input as well.
Narooma Guest house was on the corner of 4th Avenue where the current Safeway Petrol Station is. Dad also mentioned an old lady that used to live in quite a substantial house on the foreshore where the current Village Green is. He doesn't remember her name but she used to cut men's hair during WW2. She boarded a man by the name of Bucher who drowned when he fell in a drain. (As the village Green was the footy ground, the house probably adjoined the eastern end of it-itellya.)
The body of Lewis Thomas Bucher, 71, of Rosebud was found in a drainage canal near his home yesterday. He had
been missing from his home since Monday. Police said there were no suspicious circumstances.
(P.6, Argus, 23-6-1948.) N.B. The drain was probably Chinaman's Creek. itellya.)
On the current site of Woolworths next to Rosebud Primary School there was the Presbyterian Church and a menswear that used to be owned by the Weatherheads. This was moved to its current site. Patterson's garage also used to reside there (woollies site).
Where there is a doctors surgery near the site of the old Rosebud tennis courts, this used to be the Methodist Church.
Dad mentioned Bill Paige. Frank Whittaker owned a furniture shop amongst other things. Bobby Weatherhead, Ernie Jensen, Bruce Jensen who was a Panel Beater and Micky Dark. I haven't been able to establish if my great grandparents knew the people who you asked about but dad played cricket or baseball (forgotten) with the army person you mentioned. Happy to have the information I provided in the journal.

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You'd reckon that the name of the author of the history would have been given as John G.Mann! He lived in Harbury, Mt Eliza. John was one of the very active members of the the Mt Eliza Volunteer Bush Fire Brigade. He was a member of the Field Naturalists Group as was Mr S.Mann. When St James the Less Church was damaged by an earthquake in 1932,it was reported:"Mr. J. G. Mann who has an intimate knowledge of the history of the
church, has circulated an appeal for funds to repair the building. A ready response to the appeal is expected."
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Saturday 10 September 1932 p 1 Article)

After Frankston High came second in a Wildflower competition run by 3AR and 3LO at the Melbourne Town Hall in 1930,it was reported:"The students have decided to have an exhibition of wild flowers at the school on Monday next, to see how many varieties they can obtain. Mr.Bincham, the local florist, in Young street, who very kindly staged the exhibit at the Town Hall, has agreed to stage the exhibits on Monday. Mr.J. Mann, of Mt. Eliza, who is an expert in wildflowers has consented to attend and name the flowers brought in.
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Saturday 25 October 1930 p 4 Article)

It is fitting that Mann Rd (Melway 101 J 9) leads to a reserve. I hope that the wildflowers that Mr Mann so loved grace the reserve!

Plenty of sources state that Canadian Bay was named after three Canadians who loaded firewood there but it was only the previously mysterious Mr Mann who named names!

Without amateur historians such as L.Wilding of Flinders,Isabel Moresby (ROSEBUD: FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA) and John G.Mann, much of the Mornington Peninsula's historical information would have been lost. How John would have loved to talk to Isabel about the flora and fauna of Rosebud and New Guinea!

I always felt a little silly quoting MR MANN as the source when discussing Alfred Jones of the "Almond Bush Stud" at Somerville and the Liverpool anchoring well offshore in Canadian Bay. At least we know now that the author was not the aborigine referred to as Mr Mann in Marie Fels' "I Succeeded Once."

I will be requesting the Mornington Peninsula Shire to ask the City of Frankston to name the anonymous reserve at the end of Mann Rd in Melway 101 H10, the John G.Mann Nature Reserve.

John Mann even listed the wildflowers which could be planted in such a reserve.
Floral Reserve Proposals
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 1 April 1938 p 1 Article.

The monthly meeting of the Mt.Eliza Progress Association was held at the Mt. Eliza Hall on Wednesday evening last, when a good attendance of members was recorded. The president, Mr. Tyler, presided. The usual business was dealt with.

History of Mt. Eliza.
At a previous committee meeting, Mr. J. Mann presented a manuscript which for the last few months he has
been compiling, and has now completed. It was read and received with great enthusiasm. Mr. Mann has given in his work a very thorough outline of the locality since it first came into being over 60 years ago.It is very interesting reading now, and will prove more and more so as years go on.

Residents of the Mount are very grateful to Mr. Mann for the time and trouble which he devoted to the work. A hearty vote of thanks was passed to Mr. Mann. The cost of publishing of the book,which is to be printed and published by "The Standard" will be under 30 pounds. This is very satisfactory.
(Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 20 August 1926 p 7 Article.)

John Mann's "Harbury" was assumed to be near Mann Rd, but the following account indicates that it was near Old Mornington Rd and about 300 metres from Marathon (12 Marathon Drive) which was built on the site of James Davey's "Marysville" (built in 1851.) James Davey later built another house overlooking the bay which was replaced by Sargood's "Denistoun." Why did James Davey call his pre-emptive right the Marysville Estate?

An old resident and colonist named Mary Davey, relict of James Davey, expired this afternoon at the residence of her son, after a short illness. The deceased was 86 years of age, and came to the district early in the
forties, her husband and she being amongst the first white people to take up their abode in these parts. Mr Davey at one time owned a sheep and cattle station between here and Mornington*, and what was afterwards known
as the Marysville Estate was his original pre-emptive right.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 9 September 1893 p 10 Article.)
*There is no evidence that the Kannanuke Run (from the creek to Mt Eliza) adjoined the Ballanrong Run whose pre-emptive right includes the Mornington Racecourse.)

federation-house - Melbourne's Federation Heritage's+Federation+Heritage

Marathon is a large residence and garden established in 1914-24 in the Federation Arts and Crafts style. The house features a conspicuous gabled roof, a tall broad stuccoed chimney and contrasting textures of building fabric, typical of the Arts and Crafts style. The style is also demonstrated in the garden design by the geometric compartmentalised areas, many with central axes, terracing and use of stone for steps and retaining walls.
The garden style also integrates an uncommon Italian design influence by the use of cypresses, clipped hedges, fountains and statuary . The place is of exceptional interest being one of a few notable homes designed for the Grimwade family and it is one of a small group of large summer residences with extensive grounds erected in the first decade of the twentieth century. [15]
Marathon, constructed in 1914, is significant because of the relationship between house and garden. Designed by the architectural partnership Butler and Bradshaw, with substantial extensions designed by Walter and Richard butler in 1924, it is an interesting example of a large beachside residence designed in the Arts and Crafts manner. The garden, also designed by Walter Butler, with its formal terraces, axial layout, structures, stairs, walls, paths, pergolas and ornaments reflects the Arts and Crafts philosophy of garden design, and of creating outdoor "rooms". It is a fine example of Butler's garden design, having the grandest plan and being the largest and most intact surviving work.[16]

WILLIAM ALP'S house (now 4 Cassiobury Avenue)was on seven allotments.(City of Frankston Heritage Study 1991.)The study assumes that it was the house on Grimwade's almond orchard. It would seem logical that the orchard was on or near Orchard Lane on the south side of Daveys Bay Rd but the study,in discussing "Marathon", states that the Orchard Estate encompassed Harleston Rd.

The present Health Retreat on the south corner of Daveys Bay Rd may have been the Childrens' Hospital orthopaedic section mentioned in the same paragraph as Toorak College.

Big Blaze at Mt. Eliza
Stern Fight to Save Property
The most serious outbreak of fire in many years occurred on Monday afternoon when some of the finest homes in the Mt. Eliza district were threatened by a fire which broke out in the dense scrub between Harbury,Mr. John Mann's residence, and the new Pt Nepean road; fanned by a moderate breeze the flames were carried toward the old Mornington road.

Firemen and volunteers waged a stern war with the fire to prevent it reaching Mr. Mann's house. Those who
could bear the terrific heat did what they could to check the advance of the fire while others worked hard
with, axes to. cut away the tall tea tree which grew~ within a few feet of the rear of the house.When it seemed certain that nothing could save the property a slight change in the wind caused the flames to subside a little and the face of the fire nearest to Mr. Mann's was beaten out.

While the fire was at its height in this section, burning leaves or bark were carried by the wind to Marathon,
the beautiful home of Major General, H. W., Griinwade, which stands about one and a half furlongs from Harbury, and ignited the dry grass at the rear of the property. Fortunately the outbreak was seen before it had gained a firm hold and was beaten out. While one party was striving to save Mr. Mann's property another was having an equally stern struggle on General Grimwade's property adjoining Harbury, an almond orchard containing about 500 trees was slightly damaged, but the clearing enabled the fighters to prevent the fire reaching one of houses on the estate occupied by Mr. William Alp.

The fire engine, which could not be used earlier because no water was available, was then taken to a point near Davey's road where a fire plug was found. The value of the new engine was soon demonstrated. Pumping from a main in which the pressure was low an excellent flow of water was delivered from the hose at high pressure and the fire was soon under control at that point.

In the meantime the fire had spread along the bed of Kackeraboite creek and the brigade was recalled to Harbury which was again in the path of the flames. The engine was attached to a private hydrant near General Grimwade's home and water was forced through 600 feet of hose to Mr. Mann's. The pressure was so poor, that the hose itself could not be used, but men ran from the end of the hose to the fire with buckets and succeeded in saving a small cottage and preventing the further advance of the fire in that direction.

The dense scrub in this area was the sanctuary of hundreds of birds that had been encouraged by Mr.Mann to visit his home and to come to him when he whistled. For years he has spent part of his leisure in training the birds to overcome their fear of human beings. Much of the scrub near the house is unharmed, and it is to be hoped that the birds have not perished.

While one face of the fire was being brought under control the other had spread toward the home of Mr.I.Walters and adjoining residences. The fire engine had just been brought to this point when another alarm was given from Miss Violet Teague's property where burning leaves had ignited the scrub about a quarter of a mile from the main fire. This outbreak was beaten out. Had it gained a firm hold several fine homes, the Toorak college and the orthopaedic section of the Children's Hospital would have been endangered. Residents became so alarmed that
the Mornington brigade was summoned but the outbreak was under control when it arrived.

When the wind died down at night the fighters were transferred to the new Pt. Nepean road where the fire was burning fiercely. Working along the face of the fire men and boys beat out the flames and shortly after midnight ,the last of the men were withdrawn. On Tuesday morning many trees and logs were still burning. Some firemen returned to the scene of the fire and extinguished burning trees that were near enough to the edge of the burnt area to cause a fresh outbreak.
(Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Saturday 11 February 1933 p 1 Article.)

Shortly after "Mr Mann's" history was published, the progress association was discussing sales and associated matters.
Cr. Montague suggested that Mr.McIlroy be asked to take the books in hand also. From what he could gather the booklet was being well received. He had heard several remarks that were complimentary both to the author, Mr. Mann, and Standard Newspapers, the publishers of the work. Many members of other associations had told him that they should be very proud of the booklet.
(Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 17 December 1926 p 7 Article.)

As well as his community service at Mt Eliza, John Mann was also much involved in Frankston itself. The Frankston Progress Association was keen to assist his efforts.

The Secretary urged members to assist in every way possible for the Annual Flower Show to be held in the Mechanics' Hall next month, and suggested that they get in touch with Mr J. G. Mann and other members
of the committee.
(Frankston Progress Association
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 22 August 1924 p 2 Article.)

Wild Flower and Daffodil Show
"In the
From 2.30 p.m.
In the Evening:
Microscopic Slides will be shown by Mr. Jas. Lambie.
All information from-Messrs. P.W. Bartlett, J. Haggart, J. G. Mann,A. Montague, Committee of Management.
(Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 12 September 1924 p 2 Advertising.)

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I don't often write journals about a particular person but there was something special about Mr Wilding, which will become evident when the full title of this journal is given.

After the termination of the Flinders Race Meeting on Friday, 3rd inst., some gentlemen assembled in the State School building, and a presentation of a purse of sovereigns was made to Mr L. Wilding, who left the district for Castlemaine on Monday last, after fifteen years' residence in Flinders. On behalf of the subscribers,
Mr Cooke wished Mr Wilding every success in his new vocation, and expressed regret at his departure from Flinders.

During the time he (Mr Cooke) had been in the district, Mr Wilding had always been very willing to do a large amount of work for the good of the place which many people were inclined to shirk, and he would certainly be very much missed. In replying, Mr Wilding heartily thanked the people of the district for this token of their
goodwill. There were very many things which he could not do, and there was certainly no necessity to explain that to make a speech was one of these things. A certain gentleman in the room would be quite equal to such an occasion, and be able to give voice to proper sentiments for any space of time from a few minutes to a few hours, but he was sorry to say he was not built on the same lines.

He had always been glad to think that he belonged to the place, and to have a hand in anything that was going on. It had been a pleasure to himself to be able to do any work for Flinders. He hoped to visit the district a good many times in the future. (P.5, Mornington Standard, 11-3-1905.)

Flinders ratepayers in the centre riding of the Flinders and Kangerong Shire in 1899 included:
Mrs Ann Wilding 3 acres and buildings, and Robert Wilding 16 acres.

WILDING Joseph 1892-3*
Flinders and Kangerong Shire- In this shire there is a contest in one riding only, viz., the Central ; Mr Tas. Wilding nominating in opposition to the retiring member Cr Brown.(P.2, Mornington Standard, 25-8-1892.)

SHIRE OF FLINDERS AND KANGERONG. The only contest was in the Centre Riding, where Joseph Wilding defeated the retiring Cr W. Brown by 21 votes. This result was almost anticipated, as a good many ratepayers desired a change. In the East Riding as usual, that popular representative Robert Stanley had a walk over, and the same be said of Cr John Cain who was again re turned unopposed, a well-deserved recognition of an able councillor. this occasion George McLear has been re-elected auditor without opposition. A good man in the right place.
((P.2, Mornington Standard, 1-9-1892.)

For the vacancy in the Centre Riding representation in the Shire of Flinders and Kangerong, caused by the resignation of Cr. Wilding through severe illness, two candidates have been nominated Messrs.T.Darley and
J.Pullin, both residents of our town. (P.2,Mornington Standard,26-10-1893.)

No L.Wilding yet,you say!
After the termination of the Reform League meeting in the Mechanics' Hall on the 4th inst., a suggestion, which
had previously been privately discussed,was made, that a fund be organised for the benefit of the widow and young family of the late Frank Culliver who recently lost his life through a lamentable accident. As the sadness of the occurrence has elicited general sympathy and the bereaved family are now left without means of support, the project at once found favour. Mr L.Wilding undertook the duties of honorary secretary and treasurer of the movement, and the following gentlemen, living in different parts of the district, to whom subscription lists have been issued were enrolled as a committee :-Messrs C. T. Cooke, T.Darley, L. Nowlan. F. T. Prebble,J. Simmonds (SYMONDS), J. Guest, H. James(Flinders), R. G. Edwards, L. Murphy(Dromana), J. Crichton (Boneo), and A. Sutherland (Shoreham). (P.6, Mornington Standard,19-12-1903.)

This is not part of one of L.Wilding's articles but he has already solved one mystery for me. Forest Lodge was a well known property at Melway 161 F-H 11 but Bill Huntley told me that it fronted the north side of McIlroys Rd. Crown allotments 23A and 23B Kangerong between J.Davey's grants and that road were granted to William McIlroy. Davey must have bought or leased McIlroy's grants.

TENDERS will be received by the undersigned up to 6 p.m. on WEDNESDAY, the 7th SEPTEMBER, for the LEASE for a period of 12 months of Crown Allotments 23a and b, parish of Kangerong, containing about 156 acres,and known as "Davey's Paddock." L. WILDING, Agent, Flinders.(P.2,Mornington Standard, 27-8-1904.)

- After the New Year, we shall print a series of articles dealing with this subject which Mr L. Wilding, of
Flinders, has undertaken to prepare. The narration of the adventures on the shores of the Peninsula, and in the adjoining portions of Port Phillip and Western Port Bays, of several of the very early explorers of Victoria, and also their impressions of this part of the country, will be dealt with, the occasion of the first attempt at settlement in Victoria, when Collins landed near the present township of Sorrento in 1803, and other memorable historical events also necessarily receiving attention. As it is desired to recount as many interesting incidents regarding the pioneering and settlement of the Peninsula as practicable, for the benefit of our readers, we shall be very glad if old residents and others will extend us their cooperation, and kindly forward any particulars of which they are in possession, and deem, worthy of inclusion, either to Mr.Wilding or to this office as early as possible. (P.2, Mornington Standard,10-12-1904.)

HISTORY OF THE Mornington Peninsula. (Copyright.) INTRODUCTORY.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 24 June 1905 p 5 Article.

Grant's discovery of the bay, Murray's naming of Arthurs Seat,Flinder's ascent of Arthurs Seat* and so on can be found in many histories (particularly in 1934) and even on the Matthew Flinders memorial near the Old Shire Hall at Dromana. A trove search for L.WILDING, HISTORY,MORNINGTON PENINSULA, will produce all of his articles, but here I will focus on articles containing information that is available nowhere else.
(*Wilding mentioned Flinder's 16 year old nephew, midshipman John Franklin, who repeated the ascent after his term as Governor of the Apple Isle.)

Charles Graves was obviously one of Mr Wilding's informants but did not mention his stint as a hawker, in partnership with Mary McLear,servicing the whole peninsula, before establishing a store at Shoreham and buying "Woodlands" in the parish of Flinders. Colin McLear did,in his A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.

Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 2 September 1905 p 6 Article

HISTORY OF THE Mornington Peninisula.
[By L. WILDING.](Copyright.)
EARLY SETTLEMENT : Mr Andrew Buchanan, the well-known Ayreshire cattle breeder, is also a holder of what was once - before the time of the Government land sales -a part of this very early established run. Captain Reid, late of the 45th Regiment, who held what was known as the Mount Martha (* sic) run, had also a considerable slice of the Peninsula in the very early days. The property was afterwards sold to Mr Balcombe, who took no small part in the early history of the Peninsula, and was for some years member of Parliament for the very large electorate in which the subject of these articles are included.
(*The Mount Martha Run, last held by James Hearn, was south of Whites Lane (Range Rd) to Ellerina (Bruce) Rd. Reids run which included the future Mornington Town and township was north of Range Rd. I cannot access the internet at the moment to check the correct aboriginal name* for the run, the pre-emptive right of which was named The Briars by Balcombe after his ancestral property where the imprisoned Napolean Bonaparte was befriended.)
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squatters. on. the. Mornington. Peninsula. It was a fact that the Aborigines of the Port ... with Robert Jamieson), Captain Reid (Tichingurook), Captain Baxter (Carup ... The Western Port squatters impressed Richard Howitt on a walk to Western ..

The lime burners seem to have been among the very oldest settlers. In 1840 there were a good many engaged at this occupation at the site of Collins' old settlement, including Mr Henry C. Wells**, who is still living, and resides at Frankston. Mr William (* **sic) Cain, father of Cr John Cain, J.P., of Portsea, was also one of the very earliest settlers engaged in this industry.
(**Henry Cadby Wells walked to the FUTURE Sorrento in about 1841 with his pregnant wife to burn lime with Robert Rowley, returned to Richmond after the 1843 depression reduced the demand for lime to pursue his trade as a bootmaker and returned with a boat in 1849 to crayfish with Robert Rowley and (as confirmed by Christine Nixon, Sorrento historian) built the first limestone house in Sorrento, which became Lugger Jack Clarks CLARKS COTTAGE, demolished when Clarks Mornington Hotel became the Koonya. Henrys daughter was the first white child born in the future Sorrento in early 1842.
***Owen Cain, who soon after arrival, was searching frantically for his 4 year old daughter, Sarah Ann.)

When the lime burners first fixed their????? nearly all the old buildings built by Collins' men were standing, though they were all demolished before very many years. By 1845 there were 17 kilns in full work. Each kiln would employ from 10 to 20 hands getting stone, wood, and doing furnace work. In the early days of Sorrento the place was beautifully grown with sheoak and other trees. The lime burners, however, soon made use of these, and then came the present strong growth of ti-tree, which now covers so many miles of this part of the country.

Evidently the first purchase of land on the Peninsula was in 1841. The special survey system, previously confined to South Australia, was then resorted to in Port Phillip. A person paying £5120 into the Treasury had the right of directing the authorities to make him a survey of eight square miles of unreserved territory, subject to certain provisions relating to water frontages and other matters. Between March 17 and May 1 in that year eight special surveys had been applied for in Port Phillip. One of the applicants was Mr. H. Jamieson, who chose his 5120 acres between Mount Martha and Arthur's Seat*. His area included Hobson's Flats, and was bounded on the west by Port Phillip Bay. A very well-finished house, costing £500, which was put up on this survey, was at that time considered a very fine structure, and was probably as good a dwelling as any in the colony. The survey was occupied for some time by Jamieson Bros, and later on passed into the hands of the Bank of Australasia. In the middle of January, 1851*, Mr Graves, now of Woodlands, Flinders, entered into a tenancy of 4120 acres of the area. The other portion, including the house, was rented by Connell Bros. When Mr Graves and his partner, Mr Brown Lee (who at the start, went in extensively for wheat growing), had occupied the place for about five years, it was purchased by Mr Clark**, the grandfather of Sir Rupert Clark*, the present owner. Five years after the sale Mr Clark (sic x2), Mr Griffiths, and Mr Gibson, whose families are still in possession, became the tenants of the property. The rental paid by Messrs Graves and Brown Lee in the early days was 10s per acre.

*The southern boundary was the present east-west section of the Nepean Highway, otherwise called Bittern-Dromana Rd, with the eastern boundary being Bulldog Creek Rd. Henry Dunn, after whom Dunns Rd in Mornington is named, leased the survey 1846-1851. The homestead might have been (Kangeerong?) homestead built on Edmond Hobsons run in the late 1830s before he moved to Tootgarook. (See "I Succeeded Once" by Marie Fels about Assistant Protector William Thomas.)
**William John Turner Clarke, known as Big Clarke who died at James Hearns residence near Salmon Avenue, Essendon. Hearn was related to Big Clarke, probably through Clarkes brother.
By 1864, Edwin Louis Tassell was leasing the northern 1000 acres from Big Clarke but the ownership of that portion later passed to John Vans Agnew Bruce. Walter Gibson had washed his sheep in the southernmost creek of Safety Beach. Thus the origins of the names of Bruce Rd (the sea lane or Ellerina Rd and boundary between the parishes of Moorooduc and Kangerong) and the three creeks are explained. The subdivisional sale of the Clarke Estate took place in 1907 and the Bruce Estate slightly earlier.
(sic x2)
An owner cant be a tenant on his own property. Clarke was assessed on portions of the estate not being occupied in any given year. By 1851, Mary McLear was leasing The Willow on the north bank of Dunns Creek just east of the freeway and William Marshall, her former groom (who witnessed her husbands murder at the Plough Hotel on the Plenty River on Boxing Day 1849) was leasing land between Pickings Lane and the beach so either of these could have been named as a tenant in 1856 and the Brown Lee and Connell leases were not occupying all of the survey south of Tassells Creek.

One of the founders of the Peninsula was certainly Captain Baxter, whose sheep, which had come overland from Sydney, were pastured at Carrup Carrup (now for many years past known as Baxter's Flat) in 1840.Mr Sage (who is still hearty, in spite of 70 years in Australia, since he landed in Sydney as a young fellow in 1835) made the overland trip with the drover of the Captain's sheep, and was then left in charge of the property, which he managed for 10 years. He afterwards became the Captain's son-in-law, and bought his present land near Somerville, building his slab house from timber cut from the bush in the vicinity. This is a very quaint old place - typical of the early Australian settler's residence.

To return to Captain Baxter's. So many incidents of his life are of especial interest by reason of their connection with the early days of the colony, that the temptation to go beyond the Mornington Peninsula, before the writer passes on to some of the other pioneers, cannot be resisted. Benjamin Baxter was born in Ireland, and joined the 50th West Kent Regiment during the reign of George IV. He saw service in Jamaica and India, and afterwards arrived in Sydney in charge of a company of his regiment on board the Royal George, a transport ship laden with convicts. Mrs Baxter, who followed her husband in the ship Hope, arrived about the same time. On his regiment afterwards being ordered to India, the Captain sold out, and was appointed by Governor Bourke to the combined offices of clerk of petty sessions and first salaried postmaster at Melbourne in the year 1837; at a salary of £200per annum. Mr E. J. Foster and Mr Eyre, a storekeeper, had both previously acted as postmaster in an honorary capacity.

Mrs Baxter (who was born in Bolton, Lancashire, England, 1813) did all the work of sorting and delivering letters, and managed the establishment. The "establishment" was a small wooden shanty of two small rooms, with a loft above and skillion at the back, and situated where the Royal Highlander Hotel, in Flinders street, now stands. A part of the living room, partitioned off with sheets and furnished with a small table, constituted the office. The letter delivery was made through a window, a section of which was on hinges and opened as required.

When the mails, which arrived by trading vessel or overland from Sydney by rider, were being delivered there was always great excitement. The whole township would attend outside the primitive building. It was the rule for a large cavalcade to go out and meet Johnny Bourke (no connection of the illustrious Governor of the period, it will be surmised) when it was known that he was approaching with the overland mail, and escort him to the post office.

The first mail which went direct from the young settlement to England was despatched by Mrs Baxter, in total disregard of official red tape, and without consulting her husband. A wool ship was leaving Melbourne for London in 1839, and Mrs Baxter took the opportunity of saving a great amount of time, and conveniencing the people of Melbourne, by making up the mailbags and sending them on board this craft, instead of forwarding them via the head office at Sydney, in the recognised way. The authorities evidently did not regard this breach of discipline very seriously, and Mrs Baxter continued to be the guiding spirit of Melbourne's postal arrange-ments until her husband retired from his billet in 1839.

The family lived for a year or two in the house built by Batman, the pioneer of Victoria, whose property the Captain had purchased. Another interesting fact relating to the early colonial life of the Captain was that he held for a time a cattle run stretching from the site of Princes Bridge to near Brighton, his stock-yards being situated on the site of the now fashionable suburb of St Kilda.

The family settled at Baxter's Flat in 1842. The old homestead which still stands near the Mornington Junction railway station - is on the same plan as when erected from shingles and slabs cut from the surrounding bush in those early days. There are certainly very few buildings of this age to be found in the state ; though, however, the original slab walls are covered with weatherboards on the outside and the inside is papered. It was for a long time the only house in the district, and before the advent of made roads, was a hard day's journey from Melbourne. For several years assigned servants did most of the farm work, and blacks hovered about the place.

Mrs Baxter is still alive, and resides in the old homestead. This lady and her eldest daughter (Mrs Sage), who was a very young child when they came out to Australia, are very probably the only survivors of the white people in the Port Phillip district previous to 1838. The only son, Mr Benjamin Baxter, now resides at Frankston, and several daughters (one of whom married Mr Robert Hoddle, the first Surveyor-General of Victoria) are living in different parts of the state.
To be Continued.

As well as presenting work by early amateur historians such as Mr Wilding, and Isaac Batey re the Sunbury area,I feel an an obligation to correct any errors and to confirm claims that are made. I have decided to do this before the next article rather than interrupt the narrative. The Keilor Plains entry re Pain has been included because the Westernport District was very misleading, including squatters such as Dryden at Hanging Rock and the Westernport Barkers' brother near Castlemaine. "Payne",the correct spelling in the article was on Coolart.

551 Babinton & Carpenter, 'Glenlyon' run, squatters in Westernport District ...... 551Manton, Charles, 'Big Plains, (Tooradin)' run, squatter in Westernport District.

Eastern Portion of Australia, East 1849/1 (1848/2)
In Westernport, French Island is named, and nearby Jameson and Berry, Dodd and McCrae appear on the Mornington Peninsula. (Jameson on on the Cape Schanck run and McCrae on the Arthurs Seat run. Berry?)

Pastoral Properties: Grazing on the Keilor Melton Plains ...
Jan 1, 1993 - A few monuments to the wealthy squatters survive along with more ... so expeditions to the Port Phillip district which demonstrated vast areas of open ... The earliest areas to be settled in the Port Phillip area were in the open basalt ...... believed to have been Pain's original homestead are located at Grid Ref.

1849 Squatter's Directory - Port Phillip District
1849 SQUATTERS' DIRECTORY OF THE PORT PHILLIP DISTRICT ...... District (image) PAYNE, William - "Coolort" - Western Port District (image)

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Yal Yal, heir to Bobbinnary, clan head (Barwick 1984: 117); no date Henry ... 10 Dec 1840 Yal Yal was among a party of Western Port Aborigines who came .

HISTORY OF THE Mornington Peninsula. [BY L. WILDING.](Copyright.)
A man named Manton (after whom the present Manton's Creek was named) spent a short time in the Flinders district in the early days, but, apparently, only pastured his cattle in the locality for a time and
then left the district (FOR TOOROODIN!). Another person named Dodd, who hailed from the Isle of Man, occupied
a small run including the site of the present township of Flinders, and built a hut near West Head, some
times called Dodd's Point. Though Mr Dodd was certainly a pioneer, being the first white occupier of a part of
the Peninsula, he moved away too soon to take a large part in its development.

In 1846 the Manton's Creek run was taken up by Mr Henry Tuck, a native of the Isle of Skye, who had landed in Melbourne in 1838 from Tasmania, to which colony he had emigrated in 1830, when a youngfellow of 20. Before taking up the run Mr Tuck had spent several years on the Peninsula in the employment of Captain Reid and Messrs Barker and McRae. In connection with this run there is an interesting document in the possession of Mr Samuel Tuck, a son of the original owner. This is a license given under the hand of Charles FitzRoy, "His Excellency the Governor of New South Wales and dependencies," on the 9th day of December, 1846, permitting the holder to occupy "certain waste lands of the Crown situated in the district of Western Port, in the colony of New South
Wales," upon payment of the sum of £10, which amount had to be deposited each year.

The "certain waste lands of the Crown" comprised an area of 10 square miles, a good part of which was really splendid land. When the run was cut up and sold, Mr Tuck retained a portion of this, upon which his sons now reside with their families. The whole of the run was thickly timbered, and the first house was by the mouth of Manton's Creek.

At this time Mr Payne had a run stretching from Tuck's boundary to Warrandyke,(MUST BE AN EARLY NAME FOR COOLART WHICH RELATIVES OF MAURICE MEYRICK OF THE BONIYONG RUN ARE KNOWN TO HAVE OCCUPIED) which had previously
been occupied by a person of the name of Merrick (sic). A strip of land along what is now known as the Main Ridge, which lay between McRae's and Tuck's runs, was never taken up as a run.

In about 1850, besides the settlement of lime-burners and some small clusters of habitations, the Peninsula
was principally tenanted by persons on the runs of Captains Baxter and Reid, and Messrs Barker,McRae, Pain (sic), Hobson, and Tuck. (Hobson had been managing his brother's run near THE RIVER OF LITTLE FISH, "TRARALGON" and in 1850 transferred the Tootgarook run to James AND PETER Purves. The Barkers had the Cape Schanck and Boniyong (Boneo) runs.)

Some pioneers who had seen trouble with the ancient lords of the soil in other British possessions experienced
a very pleasant surprise when they came to deal with the blacks in most parts of the Port Phillip district. This was especially so within the bounds of the Peninsula, where the blacks were never a menace after the
time of Collins' attempted colonisation. The Mornington settlers never dreamt of harm from the apparently harmless beings whom they saw going about wrapped first in 'possum skins, and later on, when they began to barter with the whites, often in dirty blankets reaching nearly to their knees. When they learnt a little
English the blacks would go meekly up to the houses and plead - "Will gibbit flour, will gibbit sugar ?" in a
very plaintive way. They also soon began to cultivate a taste for " baccy," and other tokens of civilisation.

Vide The Mornington Standard of September 6, 1902, Mr Wells (who has been previously mentioned as one of the early Point Nepean lime-burners) recollects a corroboree taking place at the foot of Arthur's Seat,soon after he came to that part in 1840, at which fully 400 blacks took part. One very old resident averes that the largest number of blacks he ever saw together was on an occasion when he counted 36, including lubras and picanninnies, coming over Baxter's Flat. Another old identity says that after the Peninsula settlement began
the blacks were rarely seen together in numbers of more than 10 or 12, including lubras, and that they had
altogether disappeared by 1856.

No doubt Mr Sage (whom they called Mr Tooce) has come into contact with the aboriginals as much as any man now living in the Mornington Peninsula. He made friends with several of them, especially Yal Yal, a very great man in the tribe, and learnt a good bit about their language. The Peninsula tribe were, as was commonly the case, almost strangers to the members of the neighboring tribe. They were, for instance, quite foreigners to the members of the tribe inhabiting the districts round about Cranbourne, and had several different words in their language. In the early part of Mr Sage's residence in the Peninsula there was great warfare between the tribes, and the kidney fat of a dead opponent was in great requisition, and was supposed to confer a good many benefits on the proud captor.

A primitive postal system was in use with the tribe when Mr Sage first made their acquaintance. Two young men were employed as postmen to go about from camp to canp, circulating news and delivering messages. Bobanardinwas the medicine man. Mr Sage's friend, Yal Yal, very earnestly impressed upon him the
desirability of never walking in front of a blackfellow until he had become very well acquainted with him. One
day he illustrated the probable result of such an indiscretion in a rather startling manner. Mr Sage was sitting writing in his house, with his back to the door, when a voice close to his ear remarked - "Could kill him, Mr Tooce, that time." Looking round, Mr Sage saw Yal Yal standing over him, playfully poising a waddy close to his head. However, the broad grin spreading over the features of his aboriginal friend soon dispelled any alarm which Mr Sage felt.

An old resident, when going over Baxter's Flat on one occasion, was rather perturbed at a lot of blacks crowding around him and making energetic supplication for "white money." He made a bolt through the dusky circle surrounding him, and fully expected to feel some spears in the small of his back as he rode away. However, the blacks evidently had no such intention. After they began to pick up English words the blacks gave themselves such names as Toby, Ben Benzie,Mr Mann, &c.

As an evidence of the quickness of their movements when hunting for food of any kind, though they were sluggish enough at most times, they were often seen wading along the beach, and then, stopping still for
some time in one place, suddenly plucking a spear from between their toes where they had been dragging it along. A further investigation as to the sudden flight of the spear into the water would discover the fact that they had secured another fish for the next meal.

For a good many years the Peninsula was very roughly timbered, and by no means easy of access. There were for a long time only cattle tracks, and the journey to Melbourne was of considerable difficulty - bullock wagons were the only carriages. When a small steam mill was established at Brighton many residents who had previously ground their own flour made a great saving of labor by taking their wheat to that place.

Over a large portion of the land it was impossible to go about much without a good axe*. A disaster, not without its amusing side, happened to three men who essayed to go for a shooting expedition with a spring cart. Though this attempt was not made in the very early days, the roughness of the country materially detracted from the usefulness of this vehicle, and, to add to their inconvenience, the party soon got bushed. Leaving the cart
and harness they took the horse, and eventually extricated themselves and found their way back on to a more
beaten track ; but they could not afterwards locate the abandoned cart, and its whereabouts were not discovered for some 10 years or so, when it was found to have been left near where Mr George Wilson* built his house later on at Shoreham.
To be continued.

*Pt Leo Rd was called the Blaze Track.
**If I remember correctly the spring cart discovery and location is mentioned in Petronella Wilson's GIVING DESTINY A HAND, a history of Sarah Wilson's descendants (Connell,Young,Johnson>Johnstone.) Christie Johnstone married a Tuck girl and is the subject of my journal HOW SARAH WILSON LED ME TO HENRY TUCK.

HISTORY OF THE Mornington Peninsula. [BY L. WILDING.](Copyright.)
TheSchnapper Point (actually Tubbarubba) murder. The Mr Threader mentioned who was said to have quit as rate collector may have been John Threader who was the retiring auditor in 1892 but re-standing,
(The old ex-officer, Mr. Threader, who for the past two years has filled the position of local auditor, was again elected to the position without opposition. MORNINGTON.
South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 5 August 1885 p 3 Article)

and the same J.Threader who provided mile posts two decades earlier. The route would have been along Old Mornington road,Mt Eliza Way, Wooralla Drive and the Three Chain Road (Moorooduc Rd.)
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 11 November 1870 p 3 Article
... DISTRICT ROAD BOARD. MOUNT ELIZA,-An ordinary meeting was hold at the board room, Mornington,
mile posts between Frankston and Schnapper Point, 21s. per post, J.Threader ; )

This story is told in LIME LAND LEISURE. The two escapees landed at Bushrangers Bay and climbed the cliffs to
the homestead of Robert Anderson's Barragunda which occupied much of Jamieson's old Cape Schank run in the parish of Fingal. Sam Sherlock, the subject of one of my early journals, later had the Rye to Cheltenham horse-back mail run, at that time probably living near the start of Melbourne Rd in Rye with his elder sister who had married Ben Stenniken.

" Mr Anderson and Mr Sam Sherlock (who was then a young fellow of 18), father of Mr S. Sherlock, J.P., of Frankston, were the only persons on the premises at the time,and went out to interview their uninvited visitors, who said they had been thrown on the coast."

"Their next stop was at the Boneo Station, then kept as a dairy by a Mr Mitchell, and also part of Mr Barker's
property. Mrs Tuck was looking after the house at the time. Bradley walked in and asked for a loaf of bread, which was given to him. When, in accordance with the traditional country hospitality, this was refused, Bradley
remarked - "I can't help you if you won't," and then trudged off with his mate.

They made off to Balcombes. In this instance the sailors who rowed them ashore had got ahead and warned Mr Balcombe, who armed some of his men to be in readiness. However, the bushrangers got away without there being any adventure."

" The whaleboat which brought the worthies ashore had two planks stove in, and, in order that she might be
used for fishing excursions at Flinders, Mr Tuck* was commissioned to take her to his home and repair her. She was dragged up the cliff with block and tackle, and put in a bullock dray. Whatever use was made of her in the
meantime, she was eventually turned upside down and made of practical use as a roof for a pigsty."
(*Henry Tuck was a carpenter who with the little assistance that a lawyer could provide, built the McCrae Homestead on the Arthurs Seat run, during which time his son Henry, was born there.)

Mr Wilding wrote about the various land acts which had made it easier for the battlers to settle on the land but without the assistance of the internet and trove could not have been expected to know why Sorrento did not celebrate its 150th in 2011,along with several other peninsula townships.Charles Gavan Duffy, an Irish land rights hero bought much land in the area now occupied by the Sorrento district and William Allison Blair,a lime merchant, bought much land between Elizabeth Drive, Rosebud West and Tyrone with the aim of creating a lime burning monopoly. When Blair's eyes roamed farther west such as near Swan's, each accused the other of employing dummies and a huge court case ensued. Duffy and Blair were in dispute about who had first applied for a particular parcel of land and there was no evidence to support either case. Sidney Smith Crispo of the Victorian Coastal Survey suggested that the disputed land be declared the village of Sorrento and it was,in about 1869-and it sold like hot cakes.

Of the several seaside resorts in the Peninsula which are the scene of inundations by holiday makers in the season, Frankston is a very extensive place, owing a considerable number of private villas tenanted in the summer time by the families of many of Melbourne's most prominent citizens, and also some first-class hotels and boarding houses. One of the oldest buildings, if not the oldest building, is the Bay View Hotel, erected over 52 years ago. The first proprietors of this house may, therefore, be considered the pioneers of Frankston, both as a seaside resort and as a township.

The importance of fishing to early Frankston residents needs to be emphasised. Olivers Hill was originally known as Old Man Davey's Hill but was renamed because a member of the Oliver family used the hill for fish spotting. Extract from young Don.Charlwood's history of Frankston written in 1929.
It was no uncommon feat in these days for fishermen to sail from Frankston up the Yarra to Melbourne, returning with supplies. These excursions stopped when Thomas and James Wren commenced running a cart to Melbourne with fish. They sold out to the Frankston Fish Co. in 1867. This company consisted of: Henry Prosser (who arrived in Victoria in 1844), James James Croskell (arrived in 1859), John Dixon Box (who later purchased Frankston's first bakery from Ritchie and Croskell), Phillip Renouf, Thomas Ritchie (arrived in 1852, and owned Frankston's first bakery, which was under Frankston House). Mr.Ritchie built Frankston and Osborne Houses.

In 1835 Mr. Tom McComb arrived in Victoria from Tasmania, and some years later moved to Frankston, where his wife, Mrs.Mary McComb, was a charitable and efficient nurse.
Mr. Henry Cadby Wells arrived in the early days(his history is referred to in another special article.-Ed.)
(P.13, Frankston Standard, 5-10-1949.)

Very early in the history of Melbourne* several gentlemen of that place built houses at what is now Sorrento. The Sorrento Hotel - the forerunner of the numerous houses of accommodation which are standing in the locality and adjacent seaside township of Portsea - was erected soon after.

1869 was 34 years after the establishment of Melbourne and a year or two after S.S.Crispo declared his private village of Manners Sutton,(renamed Canterbury as soon as the Governor became Viscount Canterbury) and built the original jetty that gave Canterbury Jetty Rd its name. It was Coppin's vision of the possibility of the narrow strip of land, and the amphitheatre, to attract day trippers and willingness to take Crispo's advice to run his own steamer offering cheaper fares,that made Sorrento a famed watering place. Sorrento was named by Duffy who was impressed by the place of that name in Italy on his way out. Portsea was named by James Ford, a convicted machine breaker. Members of the Watson family were early and longtime fishermen in both places.

Mornington, another pretty and much frequented locality, was for a good number of years practically the only township in the Peninsula, and, under the name of "Schnapper Point"(usually contracted to "The Point,") was the centre of what was then a very meagerly populated area. Probably the first church in the Peninsula- the whole of the funds for which were raised by private subscription -was erected about the year 1859. The clergyman was a Mr Robertson. With the exception of the frequently-changed men at the Quarantine Station - which has since the very early days been used as the temporary home of luckless emigrants who had the misfortune to be passengers by a ship on board which there was a case (or supposed case) of contagions disease- Mornington claims to have possessed the first qualified physician on the Peninsula in the person of Dr Rodd, who
came about 1856. The first building of consideration at "the Point" is said to have been the Tanti Hotel.

In the late 1850's when Mornington got its pier,Dromana residents,being more populous because of tenants on the Survey and timber getting on Arthurs Seat, were most upset they'd been overlooked. The Town of Mornington which extended (when surveyed later) only to about Empire St was surrounded by large rural landowners but their advantage was due to the existence of the Mt Eliza Road Board and their rates could be loaded to help pay for a pier; Dromana did eventually get its sorely needed pier,because much of the timber, firewood and wattle bark so necessary for the development of railways,piers for other coastal places,and Melbourne industries such as bakeries,tanneries etc,came from Arthurs Seat.

Another seaside township - Dromana- is claimed to be the locality of the first hotel on the Peninsula which was
known as Skirfield's hotel, and was erected in 1856 or 1857. After this a settlement of fishermen was established. The next building of consequence was the State school. A school had been kept up for a long time by a Mr Pyke, who was a pedagogue of a type not to be met with in the present day.

Many children of Survey residents went to a school near Wallaces Rd (Melway 160 K3)and Mr Pyke may have been the master whose wife was buried on the site according to Colin McLear.
William Dixon Scurfield did indeed have the first hotel, between Permien and Foote St, at the time specified and one of the first licencees was Watkins who established the Dromana Hotel in 1862. A Catholic priest disgraced himself at Scurfield's hotel. The hotel was renamed the Arthurs Seat Hotel but burnt down during the 1897-8 summer. (No fire swept down the slope as claimed by Spencer Jackson in his BEAUTIFUL DROMANA OF 1927.) There were fishermen at Dromana but as stated above most constant employment of labourers was provided in timber-getting. The first store at Dromana was probably the one run for so long by Mrs Holden near the Carrigg St corner.

A few miles out of Flinders - which is certainly not the least picturesque of the Peninsula watering places - Mr Graves, who has been previously mentioned as one of the early tenants of Jamieson's Special Survey, erected the first store south of Schnapper Point. This business is still conducted by him.
At Shoreham.

The first private school - and also the first school of any kind - at Flinders was held in a wattle and daub hut close to what is now the Cemetery Reserve, and the first store-keeping business in the bounds of the
present township was conducted in a hut put up by Mr.William Moat. The stock of this establishment was not
very extensive, and consisted, probably, of two or three bags of flour, a few bags of sugar, and small supplies of other very necessary articles. The Flinders residents of that time did not indulge in luxuries. The next general store was Brent's - which business under a different proprietary is still in existence. Over 30 years ago a station of the Eastern Extension Telegraph Company was established at Flinders, and has ever since been the telegraphic connecting link between Tasmania and the mainland. Mr W.Segrave, the present superintendent,
who was installed at the inauguration of the station as the operator, has ever since been in charge of the establishment, which has now grown into a very large concern. About the first person to embark on a regular boarding house keeping business was Cr L.Nowlan, the proprietor of The Bungalow.

The Moats are remembered by Moats Corner at Melway 160 H5. William Moat's sons were at the Tubbarubba diggings during the 1890's depression,probably working for Bernard Eaton, when they found a clue (Moriarty's watch if I remember correctly)that had not been found before the trial ,held at Schnapper Point decades before, and confusingly called the Schnapper Point Murder for this reason. Planck is a name also connected with the telegraph station.

The first settlers in the vicinity of the present township of Hastings were two brothers named Wren, one of
whom caught fish and the other drove them to Melbourne. The first hotel was established by a person named
The hotel keeper may have been J.Rodgers who was granted 296 acres in the parish of Balnarring (Melway 162 J-G12 and extending 1060 metres south from the PRESENT road. See Frankston re the Wren brothers.

It may be noted that the earliest orchards of any size in the Somerville district - which is at present one of the leading fruit - growing places in the state, but has, from all appearances, a coming rival in the district of Red Hill- were planted about 1868. The honor of being the pioneer orchardists and nurserymen of this locality seems to be divided between Messrs Shepherd, Thornell, and Clark, whose families are still carrying on the businesses.

Somerville's advantage was having a railway thirty years before Red Hill. Somerville could probably thank Henry Gomm for that; he was a boyhood friend of Tommy Bent. What a pity for Red Hill that the Hurleys of Hillside Orchard didn't use their relationship to Tommy to provide similar leverage.Bill Huntley of Safety Beach has an oil portrait of Tommy in full regalia in his lounge room!

The writer can now only regret that he was not enabled to collect a more adequate stock of information regarding the latter history of the Peninsula, and finishes his task in the hope that some latter and fuller account of its settlement and development will be forthcoming from some other source.



I asked a question about Sarah Wilson when I was writing the PIONEER PATHWAY journal some time back. I now know all the answers thanks to Petonella Wilson's GIVING DESTINY A HAND and the Rosebud Library manager's consideration. In 2010,I had a problem after reading Leila Shaw's THE WAY WE WERE. Henry Gomm was the harbour master at Rosebud and was also at Somerville. Was it the same man? Leila could not help me much so I rang a young lady at Pearcedale who happened to have that surname. She said that her uncle Murray might be able to help.Thus Murray became the first descendant of pioneering Peninsula families with whom I came into contact.

Today, Somerville played the mighty Buds and I told Murray about the Gomm bit in GIVING DESTINY A HAND. I told him I'd photocopy and post it to him. Later, I thought I'd trace his mother's ancestors (from the book)back to those who arrived in the country. Having done that, I decided to make it a journal.I will do the same for his father, George's, side of the family later on. Last year Somerville had a shocking run with injuries but that hasn't deterred Murray and he was hard at work in the coach's box today. What else would we expect from someone with the bloodlines of so many Peninsula pioneers to whom overcoming adversity was a simple fact of life.

Petronella's book said that Murray's brother, Raymond George, could turn his hand to anything and that Murray William was great with horses. It gave great detail of George's dairy and the pub but it was probably written before George and his brother, Billy, were elevated to the status of Legends of the Somerville Football Club.

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LOCAL FOOTY HERO Murray Gomm (Somerville FC)
Murray Gomm has been a player, official and all-round tireless worker for the Somerville Football Club since 1967. But Murray is merely following a family tradition. The Gomm family has had a constant presence at the Somerville Football Club since the club was born in the 1890s, with Murrays father, grandfather and countless other family members heavily influential in the clubs development. Congratulations Murray on being named as this weeks Bendigo Bank Local Footy Hero.

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Club legends. Somerville FC is a family club through and through, evidenced by many of its club legends. Both the Gomm (George and Bill) and the Armstrong ...

Lila was born in 1920,the third child of James Wilson(1884-1954) and Barbara Scott, nee Purves (1878-1934.) The 1919 assessment records that James was farming 163 acres (part 23B and 23B2, section B, Wannaeue) which probably means that his "50 acre property, "Fernlea" on which James and Barbara lived out their lives" was part of 23, on the south side of Whites Rd and west side of Main Creek Rd or 23A of 59 acres 3 roods and 34 perches (roughly Melway 171 H6) whose south west corner is the end of Wilson Rd. (There is no 23B2!)

James Wilson was the 8th of nine children born to George Wilson (1833-1905) and Mary Jane,nee Connell(1844-94.)
Barbara was the 7th of 10 children born to James Purves (29/9/1835 to 6/11/1913) and Emily Caroline,nee Quinan
(16/3/1844 to 4/8/1910.)

George Wilson was the first child of Oliver Wilson and Sarah,nee Spence who arrived landed at William's Town on 12-4-1841 having falsified their ages to qualify for a bounty,Sarah's up and Oliver's well down.They rented a house in Flinders Lane and Oliver continued his trade of shoemaking until his death in 1851. Soon after they leased a small farm on Jamieson's Special Survey (Safety Beach and east to Bulldog Creek Rd.)George selected land in the parish of Balnarring in the early 1860's and Sarah and siblings moved there with him.He married Mary Jane Connell in 1866.

Mary Jane Connell was a daughter of Anthony Connell, another early Survey tenant who bought much land between Old Moorooduc and Balnarring Rds in the parish of Moorooduc and called it Nag(g)s Hill. Some of his family later moved to Mornington and Red Hill. His son Lou (and Phillip Jackson) had a fox shooting contest that led to the creation of Foxey's Hangout.

See comment 1 for the parents of Barbara's parents.

Henry Gomm's biography, as at 1888 can be found in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS:PAST AND PRESENT but his surname has been given as GOMIN. It states that he was born in 1839 (correct) and that he came to the colony in the same year (wrong.) It gives extremely little detail. As I wanted to find out how he was connected to Henry Gomm of Rosebud, I consulted GOMM genealogy and discovered Convict Henry Gomm. Thinking that Somerville Henry's incorrect and far-too-brief 1888 biography might have been a cover-up attempt,it took me six months to write my diary of discovery, THE MYSTERIOUS HENRY GOMM.

If Henry's biography had been like his obituary (below), I probably would never have discovered that William Gomm of Rosebud and Hastings, Henry Gomm of Rosebud and Thomas Gomm of Dromana were all sons of Convict Henry and totally unrelated to Somerville Henry.Nor would the City of Kingston's historian, Graham Whitehead, have written about the two unrelated families whose members were neighbours for about 60 years until their deaths.
(People: Two Gomm Families - City of Kingston Historical Website).

The Late Mr Henry Gomm. By the death of Mr Henry Gomm,Somerville has lost one of its oldest identities and one of its oldest benefactors. As the late gentleman was a colonist of 74 years, the story of his life is very interesting, especially to residents of this district. Leaving England with his parents in the ship "'Wallace" he arrived in Victoria in November 1843, being then five years of age. His parents settled in Melbourne and the boy received his early education at St James' School, West Melbourne. When he was 11 years old, his parents removed to Cope Cope where his father was employed as a bunder on Sutherland's sheep station. Gold having been discovered at Bendigo the family resolved to try their fortunes on the goldfields. They remained there about one year and then proceeded to Collingwood where Mr Gomm Senr. bought land and erected houses. Some time later the family shifted to Cheltenham and Mr Gomm who was then 15 years of age, became engaged in fishing pursuits at what was then called Schnapper Point. Subsequently he and his father in conjunction purchased a craft and visited Mud Island in search of guana. After several successful trips the vessel was wrecked at Davey's Bay, near Frankston and all the belongings of the crew were lost, as was also the craft. After the loss of the boat he entered into market gardening but on the outbreak of the Port Curtis diggings in Queensland, he journeyed there to try his luck. The venture proved a disastrous failure and Mr Gomm returned to Cheltenham. The following year, 1859, he married Margaret Monk and settled down. Mr Gomm afterwards built a home in this district and 51 years ago last November he brought his wife and family to live at what is now Somerville where all but two of the family were born. The late gentleman was very enthusiastic in all matters relating to the welfare of the district, his time, money and assistance being always proffered with the greatest willingness and alacrity. His liberality is too well known to require much comment as he donated the ground where stand both the local Mechanics' Institute and the Church of England. He leaves a widow, four sons and five daughters also 27 surviving grand children and two great-grandchildren. Mr Gomm was an only son, he and his three sisters being the total family of his parents. He was of a very bright and cheerful disposition and was keenly appreciative of a good joke. In boyhood he spent much time amongst the blacks and could speak the language of the aborigines; also he could throw the boomerang and other native weapons. Of his sons one is now fighting France, whilst a grandson took part in 'the landing" and fought for 6 months in Gallipoli and is still on active service. A second grandson only 18 years of age, is now in camp preparing to do his bit for the Empire. So far as Somerville is concerned,it may be truly said that the late Mr Gomm has left his "footprints on the sands of time."
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 28-4-1917.)

Within hours of reading my email, Neil (Mansfield) responded- with the names of Henrys parents. They were George Gomm and Ann Teagle, who married at Hedington, Oxfordshire in March, 1839. Ann had been born on 22-10-1815 in Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire. Henry was actually born in 1840, but the place of Birth was Oxford as stated by Henry. George, who died in Fitzroy on 5-10-1898, became a widower when Ann died at Collingwood in 1887. He was not alone for long, marrying Mary Catherine Hoffman (born 1826 Stepney, London) in the same year.
George Gomm (1814), his father (Thomas, 5-7-1785), and his grand father (William, 5-4-1747) were all born in Wheatley, Oxfordshire. Margarets father, James Monk, was born at Brierton, Bucks in 1811 and married Eliza Clanfield at Tring Hertfordshire on 13-10-1831. Elizabeth was born on 7-5-1809 in Fyfield Parish, Berkshire.
Margaret Monk was born in 1838 in Brierton, Buckinghamshire.
This must sound like a lot of county hopping in days when some people spent their whole lives without travelling more than ten miles from home. However Oxfordshire shares boundaries with Wiltshire (sw), Berkshire (s), and Buckinghamshire (e) with Hertfordshire being on the other side of Bucks.
The above, obtained from rootsweb, proves conclusively that Somerville Henry was not Convict Henrys son. Apart from Somerville Henrys mothers place of birth, there seems to be no link with Wiltshire.
Henrys father and mother brought young Henry out on the Wallace, arriving at Port Phillip Bay on 16-4-1844. Georges occupation was listed as Stonemason. This seems to be the information that Aussie1947 gave but certain details are different.
Rootsweb states that Henry and Margaret married on 17-10-1869 at St Peters Melbourne. The year should be 1859. Witnesses were Alfred Monk and Fanny Gomm. They were possibly siblings of the bride and groom. Their children are listed and further details provided.
1. George b. 1860 Moorabbin. Married Amelia Andrews.
2. Un-named b. 1862 Moorabbin.
3. Frances Elizabeth b. 1864 Moorabbin. Married George Vincent Coate at Ballarat in 1891.
4. Minnie Ann b. 12-8-1866 Frankston. Spouse George Edward Shepherd. Death/ burial 30-8-1955 at St Kilda.
5. Henry Ernest b.1869 Collingwood. Died 1869 Collingwood.
6. Angelina May b.1870 Cheltenham. Died 1952, Victoria. See death notice.
7. Harry Falby b. 24-2-1873 Frankston. Married Catherine Rogers at Albany W.A. in 1900.
8. Charles Edward b.1875 Somerville. Died Chelsea 1960, Married Annie Julia Henderson 1899, Langwarrin. (Probably Pearcedale.)
9. Isabella Jessie b.1878 Frankston. Married Oliver Percival Devlin in 1901 at Sth Fitzroy.
10. William Herbert b.1880 Frankston. Married Jean Firth 1915 Vic.
11. Beatrice Ethel b.1882 Frankston. Married David George Graf (born 1872 Shepherds Flat, Vic. ) in 1909 Vic.
The children of the above are listed following the fathers surname and the mothers maiden name.

CHILDREN OF THE ABOVE. Same number as for the parents.
1. GOMM (Andrews). Henry George, born and died 1889, Schnapper Point.
Amelia, born 1891 and died 1892, both at Tyabb (parish!)
Francis Elizabeth, born 1892, Tyabb.
Marguerite, born 1897, Tyabb.

3. COATE (Gomm). Louisa May, born 1894, Warrnambool.
Frances Evelyn, born 1896, Kensington Hill, Vic.
George Henry, born 1898, Kensington Hill.

8. GOMM (Henderson). Elsie May, born 1899, Frankston.
William Henry, born and died 1901, Frankston.
Henry Ernest, born 1904, Frankston, died 1908, Kew.
George Roy, born 1907, Frankston Died 1981, Mt Martha. Married Theresa Frances Marshall 1931, Vic.

9. DEVLIN (Gomm). Marion Isabel, born 1901, Sth Fitzroy.

10. GOMM (Firth). William Henry, born 1917, Hastings.
George Edward Clarence, born 1918, Frankston.

11. GRAF (Gomm). Henry David, born 1910, Hotham West.
Raymond George, born 1913, Flemington.

The Gomms were related by marriage to many other pioneering families in the district. Paddy's wife was the daughter of William Firth from the Orkney Isles who had married Ann Scott, the first white girl born in the Somerville area, and had established Orkney Farm at the west corner of Eramosa and Coolart Rds. The Shepherds had established their Perfection Nursery in early days and it was continued in recent times by David Shepherd and his brother on "Penbank" at Moorooduc. It took a few generations for the descendants of Henry Gomm and Sarah Wilson to hook up but they were hardly neighbours. It was probably because of the famous Somerville Fruitgrowers' Shows and later the Red Hill Show that the two families became acquainted, the Gomms being involved almost as much as orchardists as with milk production and horses.

One in-law that wasn't a local was young Graf but that was because Henry Gomm thought the young station master at Somerville was not a suitable beau for his daughter. During his teens at Cheltenham he had become a mate of
young Tommy who later became the subject of a book called BENT BY NAME AND BENT BY NATURE. That's right, Sir Thomas Bent,minister for Railways and later Premier. Henry had only to ask and his wish would be granted.His first wish was that the Somerville station would be a stone's throw from "Glenhoya" (west corner of Eramosa and Jones Rds) rather than near Lower Somerville Rd, which was the centre of population according to Leila Shaw in THE WAY WE WERE.

Wedding. GRAF-GOMM. A wedding of local importance was celebrated quietly at St. Mary's Star of the Sea, West Melbourne, on Wednesday last, the contracting parties being Mr David J. Graf, of Ascot Vale and Miss Beatrice Ethel Gomm, youngest daughter of Mr and Mrs H. Gomm, "Glenhoya" Somerville. The bride, who wore a handsome dress of cream crepe de cheyne, over glace silk, was given away by her brother, Mr C. E.Gomm, Mr W. H. Gomm acting as groomsman. The bridegroom's gifts to the bride were a handsome pearl pendant and beautifully bound prayer book. The happy couple left by the Sydney express for the Blue Mountains where they will spend their honeymoon. The bride's travelling dress was a tailor made costume of Navy blue with wedgewood blue hat. The presents were numerous, many being received from the Victorian railway staff.
(P.2, Mornington and Dromana Standard, 14-8-1909.)
No Henry! I bet Margaret wasn't too happy missing the wedding! Charles Edward was commonly known as Edward and Edward St,between the hotel and Fruitgrowers' Reserve is named after him. The groomsman was Murray's grandfather, Paddy.

The second wish was to get rid of young Graf and he was posted to Ascot Vale station.It didn't do much good because Beatrice fled to the big smoke to join him despite being warned that she would no longer be part of the family. Unknown to Henry, Paddy and her other brothers used to give her food and other goodies every time they went to Melbourne. (See verse1 below.) It was not until after Henry's death that the Grafs were welcomed back into the fold, a member of the family being in Somerville's cricket premiership team in the first year. Graf Rd is named after Shaun Graf, a descendant of Beatrice, at the suggestion of a Somerville Cricket Club official (not a Gomm.)

The third wish was probably that the Somerville Fruitgrowers' Show would be opened by the Premier of Victoria.
(See verse 4.)

Murray's grandfather was generally known as Paddy but also sometimes as Herb.
The wedding of Mr Wm Herbert (Paddy) Gomm, 'Glenhoya,' Somerville, to Jean, eldest daughter of the late Wm Firth and Mrs Firth. 'Orkney Farm.' Somerville, was quiety celebrated at St Anslem's Church of England, Middle Park, on November 20, the Rev A P McFarlane being the officiating clergyman.
(P.2, Dandenong Advertiser and Cranbourne Berwick and Oakleigh Advocate Advertiser, 9-12-1915.)

Charles Edward Gomm was known as Edward or Ted. His "Pine Side" was across Eramosa Rd from Glenhoya, being on Crown allotment 22, parish of Frankston, granted to Henry Gomm on 22-9-1874. The triangular block is labelled Township of Somerville and may have been resumed by the Crown in 1891 and the township gazetted in 1901. Obviously,despite the nearby railway station, the township did not take off and closer settlement blocks were consolidated in Gomm ownership. Ted, along with Alf Jones and later J.E.Sage of Almond Bush Stud, spend quite a bit on advertising pedigree stallions, so an extra plug among items of news was common. Ted also ran cross-bred sheep on Pine Side.

Mr C. E. Gomm. of " Pine Side." Somerville, is to be complimented on having introduced in the district a fine Clydesdale strain in the three-year-old stallion, "The Black Prince". This superb colt has youth, beauty and symmetry of action and appearance on his side, and as this is supplemented by a high-class pedigree, the colt can be confidently recommended to breeders.(P.2,Mornington Standard, 30-8-1900.)

IMPORTANT TO STOCK OWNERS. Attention is directed to the extended advertisement appearing in our advertising columns advising that Mr C. E. Gomm's stallion, "Favourite Lad," will-stand this season at "Pineside," Somerville, and, if required, travel the district. "Favourite Lad", foaled in 1922, was imported from New Zen land, having been bred by Mr. R. Paton, of Papakaio. His sire was "Knockinlaw Favourite," and his dam, "Abbotsford Flora," by "Black Knight." "Favourite Lad" holds the Government certificate,-and full particulars may be obtained from the proprietor, Mr. C. E. Gomm, "Pine side," Somerville. "
(P.2, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 1-10-1925.)

Ted also dealt with straying cattle as a ranger appointed by the shireof Frankston and Hastings.
IMPOUNDED at Somerville-1 black heifer, earmarked ; 1 black and white yearling steer and 1 yellow heifer, no visible brands on either.-C. E. Gomm, ranger, Somerville. (P.2, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 16-9-1921.)


1.When little sis Beatrice went to Graf at Ascot Vale
Paddy gave help so their marriage wouldnt fail;
Her rejection by Henry was a sorry tale
So hed take her food when he went to a Newmarket sale.

2.Big sis Minnie Ann witnessed three deaths by suicide:
Stan Clarke and Janet Ross when their love expired, 5-11-1921
And hubby, George Shepherd, when his pain grew too great,
Made use of a shotgun to seal his fate. 28-6-1932.

4. Tommy Bent, Paddys dads old mate
By 1906, was Premier of the State
And opening the Annual Fruitgrowers Show
Told why his Brighton cabbages did abundantly grow. P.4,15-3-1906.

to be continued
The Oh Noes page strikes again. See Comments for MURRAY GOMM'S TEA CHESTS.
The Oh Noes page strikes again. See Comments re the year of Henry's arrival in Somerville.
The Oh Noes page strikes again. See Comments for Murray's lineage.

Plans for the Smoke night for Henry Gomm reveal the kangaroo hunts as part of three-day entertainments provided by Henry.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Friday 25 December 1903 p 5 Article
... unanimously. agreed to tender Mr H. Gomm, sear., -a smoke nirght suliper'on Saturday. 2nd °January, in the new hotel :'- Mr- Gomm has al l ways been first and foremost as a will ing helper where his ... old faces who used to patronise the good old three days' entertainmert provided by Mr Gomm twenty ... 370 words

The following webpage has excellent photos of Henry Gomm and the Glenhoya homestead.
Henry Gomm - Pioneer Graves in the Mornington Cemetery‎
Five-year-old Henry Gomm arrived with his parents aboard the ship Wallace, in 1843. ... Photo courtesy of Somerville & Tyabb District Heritage Society ...

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Alec Rasmussen transferred from Couangault, south of Gisborne,to Tullamarine S.S.2613 in 1909 and taught there for nearly twenty years. His picnics at Alexander McCracken's Cumberland(probably for his pupils but involving the whole community)were just a small part of his service to Tullamarine. Alec was spoken of in such glowing terms, at the 1989 and 1998 Tullamarine reunions, by every one of his former pupils, that I became infected. My attempts to have the Tullamarine Reserve in Melrose Drive, which the community gained because of Alec, has failed but I hope to have a playground on that reserve or nearby named after him.

The old Social Studies course started with the family with horizons expanding every year,Grade 5 studying Australia. The Grade 4 focus was on the local community. Kidding Mr Hardiman didn't get me fired up with his stories about the past. If he hadn't, I wouldn't be writing my journals. I thought of him and decided to write this journal a few nights ago. Mr Hardiman explained that Bank St,in which the school is still situated,got its name from the bank on the Mount* Rd corner which was built during the gold rush. I vaguely remember seeing 1869 on the bank and naturally concluded that it was not the original bank building. What I found the other night was an article about the E.S.&A. bank being built on the site of a hay and corn store in (1869?) I've spent an hour trying to find it again,to no avail.

Without the resources available today, Mr Hardiman's mistake can be understood, and his slight debit on this account is completely outweighed by the love of history that he engendered in me.

Phrases, clauses, similes,etc. seemed strange stuff when Mr Good introduced them but I picked them up.He must have done a good job because, blow me down, he was the English lecturer at Melbourne Teachers' College when I arrived. And the first thing he did was to administer a Grammar test.Guess who blitzed the field.

After Dad died we moved to Kensington and attended school there from the start of third term (early September.)
If the class worked hard and behaved well,Mr Williams would perform his party trick,playing the bagpipes on his violin. I don't remember much else,but we were extremely industrious angels!

GEORGE MURRAY,UNI HIGH,1950'S. Umpiring,dedication.
Caught, sir
Daryl Foster had the laugh on his University High
School teacher George Murray yesterday.
During school hours George is chief, but on the
cricket field it's everyone for himself.
Daryl plays district cricket with Essendon, and
Murray is Footscray pennant team's captain-coach.
For more than a season Daryl, a medium-pace
bowler, has been trying to get George's wicket in a
pennant match.
They met again yesterday in a U.H.S. firsts versus
the seconds and teachers, and Daryl got his wish . . .
he had'George caught at point.
Although it wasn't a pennant match it was still
a terrific "kick" for young Daryl.
, [In the picture above Daryl Foster (centre) smiles
as his teacher, George Murray (left walks back to the
pavilion after falling victim to his 16-year-old pupil.
George Karanichols (right), another University High
student, who is in St. Kilda's pennant team, also
thought it was a "great joke."] (P.18, Argus,3-11-1955.)

George K.(see below*) was just one of the Uni. High lads who benefited from George Murray's refinement of their natural talent. Tony Leigh,whom I brilliantly leg glanced for 4 in a house match (snicked with my eyes closed in absolute fear), played under George Murray at Footscray. Arthur K. also made the grade in cricket a few years later and I think he also played footy for North Melbourne.

*The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 16 February 1955 Section: SPORTING SECTION p 2 Article about George K. making the St Kilda 1sts aged 15 and some of the other Uni High teenagers also playing at the top level. Daryl Foster was later the W.A. state coach for many years.

The Commanding Officer-Faraday St. Donkey Serenade.
Murray didn't teach me, being a fellow student at teachers' college, but I would have loved to be in his class; it would have been fun! I knew him well, being in the same group and sitting next to him in the tenor section of the choir. A Korean War vet., Murray was well established (at Maribyrnong I think) and threw parties for the members of our group. At every one, Murray would be badgered until he sang The Donkey Serenade,which was just made for his superb voice.

At the start of our second year, the whisper went around to stay on the second floor and keep a lookout. The bell rang and the new students gathered in the assembly area outside. Suddenly a commanding voice started barking orders to straighten lines,improve posture and so on. Stifled sniggers from upstairs seemed about to give the game away but when the column was marched, to Murray's "left, right" across Swanston St to the old Faraday State School, we laughed our heads off.

During the 1960's, Kensington changed considerably. The flats overlooking the South Ken. flat, now Holland Park, had brought more disadvantaged families into the area, many struggling to learn a new language. When Bryan Quirk of Carlton Football Club had his jaw broken in a game, I took over the coaching of the cricket team. The boys loved our after school practice sessions, the same later with footy, and it was then that I discovered how many of the children were latch-key children; they arrived home to an empty house because both parents were working.One of the boys, Kevin,was so disturbed that he took to one of his parents with an axe and he was just one of many troubled children. It was depressing so a bit of levity would not go astray.

We locked the deputy principal and the infant mistress in the tiny strongroom in the first production of the big brother house. But the funniest thing ever was Peter Dunleavey's classic impromptu one -liner.

The staff kitchen was separate from the staff room and if you had forgotten cutlery,you had to go back to get it. I think the sick bay was between the two rooms. One day I'd heated my lunch but had forgotten the cutlery. When I returned,my lunch was missing. My colleagues kindly showed me where it was,in my locked classroom! You guessed it,my key had also disappeared from the staff room table.

On the Friday before my wedding, I was looking after two grades (of 36 or more),Maureen Ginifer being away and relieving teachers unheard of, when Peter came down and said that Quirky needed to see me. He wasn't in his room (his grade being probably at Art and Craft)so Peter said that he was probably in the staff room. As we walked past the sick bay two figures emerged like lightning to assist Peter in his dastardly purpose. I breathed a sigh of relief when I found they were only going to tie me up; far better than the usual buck's night prank.

I'd almost untied myself when a check by my assailants found the bonds needed attention. That had just been done when a girl from Maureen's class asked Peter if I was in the sick bay. "Yes,but he's tied up at the moment!" Ya gotta laugh!

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I never had great sporting ability, despite my father being named in Bunyip's football team of the era 1902-1940, but had reasonable success in cross country at University High, C Grade footy at Doutta Stars, cricket and football boundary umpiring. I was prompted to write this article as I enjoyed a coffee after a trip to Red Hill today to wander down Prossors Lane and to discover William Henry Blakeley's post office and bakery. Crackers Keenan was retelling his memories in sport on SEN 1116 and my memories started coming back. Hopefully some of my memories will be helpful for descendants of those I mention when they are writing the family history.

My chief memories of sport at Bank St, Ascot Vale (till the end of second term in grade 5) and Kensington Primary and Central School involved end to end footy. At Ascot Vale State School we had to "take something off our kicks" as Denis Cometti would say, so the footy wouldn't finish up in the caretaker's residence. At Kensington the footy was always going into the boys' toilet and shelter shed. After sport at Ormond Park, the boys would walk back up the hill along Lovers' Lane on the south side of Ormond Rd to find out why it had such a funny name. The Footscray (now Kensington) Road hill would provide a challenge of one's boyhood after sport at the South Ken. Flat, to ride a bike (or wobble more like it) all the way up to Derby St.

While we were living in North St, Ascot Vale, Peter O'Sullivan used to visit his girlfriend,((Rosemary Armstead?), who lived further up the street. Peter played for Essendon and were were thrilled when he joined in our end to end.

Dad barracked for South Melbourne and wanted to buy Swans' jumper for my brother and me. Mum said that she wasn't washing white jumpers so we ended up as Essendon supporters. Mum often took us into Dicky Reynold's newsagency on the south side of Puckle St, Moonee Ponds. The Thirds used to play the curtain raiser to the senior game and Les Pridham's grandmother, who used to sit near us in the grandstand, used to yell out "Lessie, you're blood's worth bottling!" every time he did something for the young bombers.It is well dcumented how the crowds used to swap ends each quarter with the great John Coleman but I also remember how he'd squat on his haunches in the goal square chewing P.K. and Juicy Fruit from the many packets thrown to him by adoring fans. I remember the spot at Windy Hill just south of the true centre half forward position at the Napier St end where he suffered the tragic knee injury. I remember him playing in the annual old boys' game against the school team but he couldn't even get off the ground; Hasting's Deadshot Jack was no more!

At Uni High, the sportsmaster was George Murray, who was captain-coach of Footscray Cricket Club for many years. In fifth form I made it to the seconds in cricket. We used to practice with the firsts and one day my hand was nearly broken when I fielded a drive hit by Graeme Beissel; it had travelled about 90 metres all the way along the ground and was still travelling at about ninety miles an hour. Graeme was equally good at football but retired from football after coming second in the Brownlow while playing for Essendon.

I boundary umpired for the Uni. High footy team while I was in form 5. They gave the Public Schools a lesson. Members of that team would have included Ron Carruthers (Collingwood), Terry Rodgers (Essendon), John Booth (Fitzroy) and Barry McAuliffe (North Melbourne). John Booth must have pulled off the worst kick in history when he missed from the goal square against Melbourne Grammar.

In the same year (1960), Holy Trinity started an under 16 cricket team in the Churches comp. Three of the grounds (at least)involved getting wet if you let the ball get past you for a four; they were Ormond Park, John Pascoe Fawkner Reserve and Lebanon Park (homes of Moonee Valley, Oak Park and Strathmore Football Clubs.)Fielding improved out of sight to avoid a wade in the muddy bottom of the Moonee Ponds Creek to retrieve the ball. Footballs would have often finished up in the creek too. One day we played at Lebanon Park. I thought it was strange to call an oval after a country, not knowing at the time that Lebanon was the town on the Mascoma River in New Hampshire, U.S.A. from which John Murray Peck of Cobb&Co. fame had come. One of the Strathmore lads hit a six which hit the wall of a house, just inches from a window, on the other side of Mascoma St. The lady of the house came storming across the road threatening all sorts of retribution but to no effect because young Daryl Gerlach launched a never-ending stream of sixes in the same direction. Daryl was a star footballer for Essendon not too much later.
DARYL HASLEM was very much a part of our cricket team despite being born with a disability that claimed his life quite early. We played our first season at the South Ken. Flat, having mowed a pitch on the grass. The flat frequently flooded and on the Friday before a match, perhaps the first, we went down to see how the pitch was. To our dismay we found that the council was pumping the water away from a flooded area-right onto our pitch. What to do? Dazza solved the problem quickly , taking the end of the hose back to the flooded area. This reminds me of an incident in 1951 when Phillip Holden, my brother and I found an old bathtub dumped at the flat when it was severely flooded. The next morning we tried a bit of rowing before school, arriving there half an hour late and covered with mud. We were not congratulated for our endeavours at an Olympic sport! Talking of rowing, I wonder if the Aussie rower at the London Games with the surname of Booth is related to John Booth of Uni High who was an excellent rower as well as playing footy for Fitzroy.

In 1961, I started at Teachers' College and became a V.F.L.Reserve Grade boundary umpire. Many of my games were in the Federal League but it was a thrill to do league thirds matches at Hawthorn, Collingwood etc. I used to do extra training at Royal Park with Lindsay Sullivan a senior V.F.L. boundary umpire and met many umpires on the senior list. Bobby Dumbrell was a fitness fanatic who could do sit ups and push ups for extra periods at extraordinary speed. Stan "Comfy" Tomlins was an ex V.F.L. footballer who could smoke a fag under the shower without getting it wet. Kevin Sleeth was a jovial fellow, not really a fitness freak like Bobby, but still had a great career with the V.F.L.
JACK POTTER was just one of the great sportsmen who graced the playing fields of University High School. I think I recall George Murray saying in an interview that Jack Potter was the best cricketer he ever coached at the school. Jack was several years ahead of me and had left school before I started but qualifies for these memoirs because of our joint involvement in umpiring. As a eighteen year old, to meet Jack had me in awe and despite our age difference we trained together and sat together at the meetings. Of course we had the connection of Uni High but we shared a passion for umpiring.
When I had a bye in umpiring, I used to have a game of footy with Flemington and Kensington Methodists which played at Debney's Paddock in Flemington. My brother and many of the lads I had been to school with or knew in other ways played for them. It must have been in 1962 that Jack joined the Reserve Grade list. I can't recall whether it was the first game of the season, in other words, Jack's first game, but it was certainly early in his career.
Flem. and Ken. Meths. played in a northern metropolitan churches comp. and Jack was appointed to their game, away, against Croxton Meths. Many of the early football teams, such as the two that merged to form the all conquering Tullamarine team of 1975-9, Essendon Baptists-St Johns and Ascot Vale Presbyterians (3 churches), were composed of members of congregations and it is likely that Ken Fraser and Ron Evans attended church parades with EBSJ players as 17 year olds before joining the Bombers. However the connection between church and club was decidedly looser in the case of Croxton Meths.
Now Jack had a great personality and, I believe, had every chance to rise quickly in umpiring ranks. Unfortunately many of the Croxton Meths. players had spent several hours in the pub before taking to the field. There had been several fiery episodes in the first half but the Croxton players came upon an alcohol fuelled strategy at half time; to thump an opponent each as soon as the ball was bounced. This happened and for the protection of the victims Jack was forced to call the game off. And as far as I know, that was the last game that Jack umpired. As sport fans would know, Jack was the captain of the Victorian cricket team for a great number of years, when the annual Boxing Day clashes with New South Wales featured most members of the Australian Test team.

As I lost about eight hours of typing last night and the Tulla and Red Hill journals are screaming, "What about me?", I am going to abandon the narrative for note form. To make sense of the chronology, I will briefly outline my residence and footy/umpiring involvement through the years and influences on my attitude to umpiring.

RESIDENCE. Ascot Vale 1943-September 1950; Kensington till 1964 with a brief break at Ballan; Castlemaine 1965-6; Maldon 1967; Flemington 1968- mid 1971; Tullamarine till recently.

FOOTBALL/ UMPIRING. V.F.L.Reserve Grade boundary (U)1961-2; Essendon District Football League field (U) 1963-4; Bendigo Football League boundary (U) 1965-6; Maldon (F)1967; V.F.L. Reserve Grade field (U) 1968-9; V.F.L. field (U) 1970; E.D.F.L. field and boundary for most of 1971 ending with Ascot Vale Presbyterians playing at Tulla; Doutta Stars 1972-4 (F); 1975-6 Tullamarine (F); E.D.F.L. field and boundary (U) 1977- mid 1983; V.F.A. boundary till end of 1990; A.F.L. boundary umpires' observer with responsibility for V.F.L. list 1991-2.

INFLUENCES ON UMPIRING. When I started with other youngsters such as IAN ARTSO, attending lectures at Richmond Postal Institute under advisor Harry Clayton (whose son Ian was a V.F.L. umpire and star athlete over longer distances), and read my first rule book, one line seeped into the depths of my brain: "The spirit of the laws is to keep the ball in motion." Thus rule 14b (a player lying on or over the ball is deemed to be in possession) became central to my thinking. My spirit of the laws also included unspoken aims that the lawmakers had obviously had in mind, namely to promote spectacular aerial contests and hard physical contests that would not cause serious injury. Then there was one more aim that almost every footballer or fan would agree with:look after the player going for the ball.

From the start, I umpired with my voice rather than my whistle. "Don't hold or shepherd, eyes on the ball, run and jump" in ruck and marking contests, saying and meaning "get it out" when a player was tackled. Nobody wrestled like Wayne Carey and Gary Ablett. Bodywork in ruck and marking contests was legitimate. I would average four ball ups a game. I once did a game while on holidays in Rockhampton in 1978, because two of the four umpires were unavailable, the fellow who'd done the first game had left and the bloke doing the second game was almost out on his feet at half time. I raced home to grab some gear and got back in time for the third game.The players afterwards told me that they had not believe a game of footy could flow so freely and complained that they wouldn't be able to walk for a week.(Major Queensland towns had six teams, thus three games each week , all played on the same ground. They also had six Rugby League teams.)

Harry Beitzel started the rot for me when he limited V.F.L.umpires to a maximum of 50 free kicks a game. That meant that in the split second of decision time in the first minute of a game, when a tackle was laid, the umpire would think "Gee, if I pay this one, I'll have to do it all day" instead of did he have prior opportunity and is he REALLY trying to handball. He'd end up balling it up, thus creating packs. The next player would hatch the ball rather than giving it up as a loose ball, knowing he would not be penalised. Commentators praised such hatchers. The tacked player's team mates would not bother to get into position for a handball because there was no need to do so any more.
Apart from my desire to keep the ball moving, I also wanted to prevent serious injury and it concerned me that Carlton's Adrian Gallagher used to duck his head to evade tackles. The advisors instructed the umpires not to give him a free for around the neck but I went a step further, penalising a player who ducked and was tackled with fair intention and announcing, so every player would hear, that I would not allow players to deliberately put themselves in danger and cause opponents the emotional trauma that Essendon's Jim Carstairs suffered when he accidentally blinded Brian Johnson of North Melbourne.

When the two umpire system came in, I could not operate with most umpires as they were turning the beautiful game into the rugby described above. Imagine what a farce it would be: footy at one end and rugby at the other. It wouldn't lead to consistency of decisions and would be terrible for the players. Therefore, I lost ambition to get to the top as a field umpire and dropped down a level every time two umpire games were introduced.My new ambition was to have the captain of the losing side congratulate me after the game. Then I fell in love with the Under 16 competition. This was the last the E.D.F.L. saw of the really good players. I remember with fondness a game at Oak Park (captain, Andrew Coates) when a skinny little Anthony Rock was introduced to me as Hadfield's captain. When I walked onto the ground, there was a fellow with a video camera, Ian Coates, who with Billy Dellar had made me so welcome on the A.F.L. list in 1970. Sadly Ian already had the motor neuron disease that killed him but I was to run many V.F.A. games with Andrew.
Paul Chapman played Under 16footy with Blessed St Oliver Plunkett's (BOPS), now North Coburg Saints, in the 1980's. I remember a game at Tullamarine in which the crew-cut Paul took two screamers. Paul umpired at the same time in the Oak Park social league and used his experience to invent a new way to draw a free for around the neck, bending his knees to lower his very erect head. Now of course the Selwoods of this world simply raise their arms so the tackle slides up. How easily most umpires are sucked in!

One great influence on my umpiring came about in 1965-6 when I boundary umpired in the Bendigo League. It did not have its own umpires group so the field umpires such as my old mate Max Beer were sent by the V.F.L. and each club had two boundary umpires who did only home games. I trained at Castlemaine's Camp Reserve and knew the players well through this, travelling to away games, activities such as car trials (where I won but lost!), basketball and the social interaction that is a part of country towns. I didn't want to report my mates, so to be fair, I didn't want to report anyone. This meant that I had to develop a sixth sense so that incidents could be prevented. Much of this was the backward look a split second after the ball had been propelled down the ground (See John Knott.)

This sixth sense was best illustrated by an incident in the 1987 V.F.A 2nd Division Grand Final between Brunswick and Oakleigh. Steve Parsons, a key participant in the infamous Windy Hill bloodbath while playing for Richmond, was trundling the ball out of Brunswick's last line of defence only metres from the left hand boundary line with my attention being on the line and the ball which inevitably cross the line. When I signalled to the field umpire I noticed a strange look on Steve's face. I immediately stepped between Steve and the Oakleigh player to whom he was bound and settled him down. That night the videotape revealed the reason for his silent agitation, a punch in the guts.

Generally the game sucks at the moment. The ruck wrestling between Dempsey and Moore decades ago is still far too evident and the player who desperately dives on the ball IN ORDER TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT is treated like a criminal while his opponents who jump on his back, tackle him around the neck, push the ball back under him and basically do everything in their power to break the spirit of the laws (to keep the ball in motion) are rewarded with a free kick for holding the ball. Unless umpires are instructed to remove the death penalty for diving on the ball and to ensure he is tackled properly, a rule needs to be introduced that a player in possession on the ground may only be tackled by a player who remains on his feet. This would probably remove 50 per cent of ball ups. Cox and Buddy Franklin throw their opponent out of aerial contests (surely you firstly HOLD something to throw it!

LES KANE. Former Hawthorn full forward coaching Castlemaine in 1965.
DEREK COWAN. Succeeded Killer Kane as coach and twice won the Bendigo League B&F, the Mitchelsen Medal.
KEVIN DELMENICO. The Delmenicos were prominent and were probably another Swiss Italian family that pioneered the Yandoit/Franklinford/Hepburn area. Kevin played for Footscray.
ROBBIE THOMPSON. Robbie was a star rover who went to Essendon. I think he played for High School in basketball.
PETER HALL. Peter was a tall player, like Kevin, who went to Carlton. Victoria's Minister for Education looks remarkably like the handsome young bloke I knew.
IAN SARTORI. Ian was a speedy skilful magpie, who like Kevin was probably a descendant of Swiss-Italians. (See Franklinford journal re Sartori.)
ROBBIE ROSS. I'm fairly sure Robbie was No 23 for Castlemaine. He was the receiver for High School's quick breaks that made opposition sides attack with only four players. (See Tarz Plowman.)
DAVID BROAD. David, like Robbie, was playing for Castlemaine as a 17 year old and was also in the High School basketball team. After a game one night, he took me into a meeting of the Develop Castlemaine Committee, and with such an interest in community affairs as a teenager, it was not surprising that he became a Shire Secretary.
KEVIN SHEARN. Kevin who was a mate from teachers'college could kick a country mile and played for Golden Square and I think was the coach. He had played for Northcote.
BRYAN CLEMENTS. Bryan was another teacher college mate, a ruckman who had played for Fitzroy. I think he was playing coach of Eaglehawk.
GEOFF BRYCE. Geoff worked for the S.E.C. and started basketball in Castlemaine. I hope their stadium is named after him. Geoff was not really tall and had some fingers missing but his rebounding and ball control was first class. He obtained the use of the Drill hall for our second season.
JIM BERRY. Jim, a policeman, and I were Geoff's lieutenants in getting the basketball association up and running,the three of us refereeing with a novice while they mainly observed until they had grasped the rules and gained confidence. Three of the teams were The Rebels, Fosters United and High School. The first season we played outdoors at St Mary's and then we moved into the Drill Hall. The High School team was mainly made up of young Castlemaine footballers such as Robbie Ross and his brother, Possum.Jim Berry was killed in a road accident not long after I left the 'Maine.
KEN HOWARTH. Ken, known as Lanky, was obviously tall and I believe played for Fosters United, in the basketball. Like Jim Berry, he was later killed in a road accident.
GEORGE SKINNER. George Skinner and John Bassett were the much feared opening bowlers for Muckleford. George went down to Melbourne to play District cricket if my memory is correct.
JOHN BASSETT. John and his wicket keeping brother, Graeme, made Muckleford a powerful side. Sadly, Graeme is very ill.
CHARLIE OLIVER (STEPHEN)The funny thing is that I never met Charlie. He was a cricket and footy legend. He played cricket for North Castlemaine which played in B Grade while Guildford and Maldon, for which I played, were in A Grade. In footy he was probably playing for Harcourt, Campbell's Creek or Newstead if he wasn't retired. During the summer, I couldn't wait to get my Castlemaine Mail and see if Charlie had made another century. Sadly Charlie lost an arm in an accident. His son Stephen, (presently C.E.O.of the Bendigo League?), was chased by Carlton and played a handful of games but preferred the country life and coached the maggies for some time. That reminds me of two other stars in the area, Ron Best and Doug Cail, century kicking full forwards, the latter playing for Northern United.
IAN O'HALLORAN Ian was a lovely fellow whom I think I met through basketball but it could have been footy. He was a former Geelong player.
TARZ PLOWMAN. Tarz (short for Tarzan)was Kyneton's full forward and was built like Sorrento's Scott Cameron only on a larger (not taller) scale. Not matter how high Robbie Ross jumped' he couldn't spoil Plowman's marks because Tarz was about a metre from back to front. Yet he could develop considerable speed on the lead and dish off a handball quickly to a team mate running towards goal.
RAY McCUMBER. I have a feeling that Keiran Keogh played for Maldon but the player that I remember best was Ray McCumber. His magnificently timed drop kicks usually travelled at least 60 metres and I never saw him fluff one.
REX BEACH. Rex Beach was the Shire Secretary at Maldon and was the captain and a very good batsman for Maldon during my season there.

JACK IRVING. Roughnut was a former V.F.A. umpire with a considerable playing background, who had much success as a V.F.L. umpire. When I returned to the Reserve Grade in 1868, he was the adviser.
BRYAN QUIRK. When I gained promotion to Kensington State School in 1968, I was Bryan's Grade 5 co-ordinator. He was a young man from Morwell making his mark on the wing for Carlton. Peter Dunleavey, the Art and Craft teacher, came to me on the last day of term 2, the day before my marriage, and said that Quirky wanted to see me. Reluctantly I left the two grades I was teaching (about 72 grade 5's) because Maureen Ginifer was ill. Quirky wasn't in his room.Returning, I was just about to pass the sick bay when its door opened and I was dragged inside by a host of bodyless arms which proved to belong to Dunleavey, Quirky and one or two others. They tied me on the bed which I regarded as being superior to being stripped. After they'd left I'd almost done a Houdini when they returned and retied me.Soon after a child from Maureen's grade came up and I asked if I was in the sick room. Peter's reply was a classic: "Yes but he's tied up at the moment." Bryan and I enjoyed recalling this incident much later when he was coaching Oakleigh in the V.F.A. Bryan had been the coach of the footy and cricket teams until his jaw was broken but was content to leave this task in my hands after he was able to resume teaching.
LAURIE DWYER. This speedy, skilful North Melbourne winger often conducted footy clinics at our school. Twinkletoes used his ballroom dancing experience to evade opponents in the heat of battle. What a true gentleman Laurie was!
ALBERT SCHOLL. Albert was the longtime secretary of the Churches Cricket Comp. and when I was 17, he arranged for me to play with North Essendon Meths. whose base was the Cross Keys Reserve. Our fast bowler was Vic Bubniw who was later a ten pin bowling champion. Vic was so fast that little me acting as fine leg/longstop often had to stop the ball which had only bounced once(on the pitch) inches from the flags.
BOB CHALMERS.Albert's death caused great sadness but Bob Chalmers was to fill the void. He was not only a longtime secretary of the comp. but wrote its history and that of the Aberfeldie school. His work in recording the history of the Essendon area is extraordinary. He also gave great service to Sport as secretary of the Essendon and District School Sports Association.
ALAN NASH, ROSS SMITH. When I was promoted to the V.F.L. list Alan was the adviser. I remember him telling the umpires not to pay free kicks for kicking in danger when somebody (St Kilda's Brownlow Medal winner, Ross Smith, was given as an example) dived for the ball when an opponent had commenced to kick it off the ground.
BILL DELLAR, ANDREW COATES. Some umpires get big-headed when they reach the top but these two certainly didn't. They were welcoming to the most insignificant list novice such as me.
BILLY RYAN'S TWIN BROTHERS. A mark that Bill Ryan took in the 1st semi in 1968 is on the wrbsite called A.F.L. Greatest Marks. It is far from the best mark that Billy ever took; it would rank about 50th in the marks I saw him take. He was spectacular five or six times a match! He had twin brothers that played in the Mallee. One match that I had in the area was a bit fishy: Rainbow v Bream. They might have played for one of those teams, or perhaps Chinkapook. Anyway, I had one bloke pegged as best on ground by quarter time. He'd take a stratospheric mark at centre half back and pass to the wing, a few tackles, a hand pass, a blind turn, another tackle, a handpass, a pressured high kick to the goal square, and, blow me down, that high flier at C.H.B.has plucked another mark from the clouds 15 yards out. This had gone on for twenty minutes and I thought I'd better have a look at his number, not an easy thing for a fieldie if he's in the right position. He took a mark near the centre and I pretended to run the wrong way. At half time, the team sheets arrived and I said to the bloke from Superman's club, "That number ** is sure taking some speckies!" The team manager replied,"He's Billy Ryan's brother. So is number**; they're twins!" That solved the mystery but now I had a problem. They had already taken about fifteen marks each so I had to work out who was to get the three votes. If you think I'm exaggerating about their marking numbers, consider that brother Bill took 22 marks against Hawthorn in 1968.
GRAEME LEYDIN. Graeme Leydin had been a year or two ahead of me at Uni High and had probably played in the same team as Bobby Clark (Footscray) and Ron Evans (Essendon.)He had been a former pupil at Flemington State School and was teaching there when Bryan Quirk's jaw was broken and I was propelled into the job of coach of the Kensington State School footy team. I taught the boys how to tense themselves when bumping, how to lead with the shoulder rather than the head when entering a pack and to always back up team mates in case of an overcooked pass or an errant bounce. We walked to the quaint ground next to the Flem and Ken bowling club, practising moving the ball from one end of the ground to the other against the stopwatch and playing practice matches against North Melbourne Colts. We played Graeme's team in the first game and beat the nineteen goals to one. In congratulating my boys after the game, Graeme said that he had been confident that his boys could win the premiership. As it turned our neither of our teams did so. Moonee Ponds West had about six boys a foot taller than any of ours and the ball never got low enough for the Kensington boys to reach it.
Graeme and I would meet at every meeting of the Ascot Vale School Sport Association, of which I became the secretary. When I started at Doutta Stars, Graeme was the coach.

JOHN SOMERVILLE.Our Club song was often sung after the senior side's games but rarely after my C Grade team's games. The tune was that of the Theme of The Mickey Mouse Club (D.O.U. T.T.A. S.T.A.R.S.) One memorable day the whole club celebrated as if a premiership had been won. That was probably the day that former Essendon star, John Somerville kicked about five goals from outside 50 yards to obtain victory for the C Grade side. As one would assume it was his only game for my side.
RAY FAIRBAIRN. Itchy was a veteran when I arrived at Douttas but was still a very good defender. His family had a bit to do with areas of interest for me, having been pioneers near Ballan (using Fairbairn Park as a holding paddock) and at Mt Martha.
MARCHESI BROTHERS.These two were tallish players who took fine overhead marks and probably sons of the North Melbourne player of a decade or so before.
ALAN GRACO. Alan Graco was a former Essendon player and his grandfather was probably the grantee of a closer settlement farm at East Keilor between the future Western Ring Rd and Norwood Drive houses (inclusive). The family had previously lived in Broadmeadows Township(Westmeadows) until 1919. Ten year old Norman Graco had accidentally shot David George Cargill, the son of the township's much loved butcher, Robert Cargill on 4-10-1919. The family was shunned by the townsfolk so they moved away. (The late Jack Hoctor, Google CARGILL, GRACO on trove.)
BOBBY PARSONS.Bobby was a ruckman and later acted as a trainer for the Stars before taking up umpiring with the E.D.F.L. with some success.
TAMBO, NARRER. Tambo was a very good player for the senior side and Narrer, a thin ruckman for the C Grade side. Someone on finding out that I played for Douttas asked me if I knew (whatever Narrer's real name was). I eventually found out that this person was actually Narrer but I've forgotten his real name now. It's very rare that anyone is actually called by his real name at a footy club!
PETER OWEN. Peter struggled to get a game in the under 17's (I was told) but I have never seen such a complete footballer outside the V.F.L. His disposal on his non-preferred foot under extreme pressure was something to marvel at. He was captain-coach of Tulla's last two or three of their fivepeat and then coached Strathmore to a premiership in 1980.
ROBBIE EVANS. It never occurred to me but it is possible that Robbie was related to Ron Evans. Ron and Ken Fraser had been recruited from Essendon Baptists-St John's and formed the attacking part of Essendon's spine for many years. Robbie was a high marking forward for Tulla but at Coburg he was a star full back for many years.
PATTY POTTER. Patty wasn't a footballer but he was part of the fabric of a great Club. Thanks to Patty, Tulla was one of the first local clubs to have every game videotaped for the coach's review and for fans to view in the clubrooms.
RAY CAMPBELL. Ray wins my label of most determined player ever. Some (I never heard them)said that he wasn't an A Grade player but I'd be a rich man if I'd got a quid every time I saw him beat three A Grade opponents all on his own.
TED JENNINGS. Ted Jennings was the President of Tulla during its fivepeat (1975-79)and set the tone of sportsmanship for every player and fan. He acted as goal umpire for the Tulla-Ascot Vale Presbyterian under 11 side years earlier when they broke the ice at the Lancefield Rd (Melrose Drive) Reserve at 8:30 or some such ungodly hour on Saturday mornings with me on the boundary, Betty Davies yelling and Marty Allinson coaching.
RUSSELL PARKER. Russell, who ran a place in the Stawell Gift and organised the Tullamarine Gift, was a dedicated secretary and trainer for the Demons for a great number of years.I hope he has been given a life membership. He was a good player, who with his brother, Robbie McDonald etc came from Ascot Vale Pressies.
LEO DINEEN. Leo's grandfather was the teacher at Tullamarine (Coders Lane; S.S.2613) in the 1930's and Leo was an early suburbanite on the Triangular Estate. He started Little Aths.(as part of the Youth Club with his wife Shirley) and was involved in the formation of almost every sporting body in Tulla. He started the SONIC a monthly community rag that let all the fledgling community organisations gain support. The Spring St Reserve, and probably the merger of Tulla-Ascot Pressies and E.B.S.J. to form the Tullamarine Football Club, were largely due to Councillor Leo Dineen.
In about 1990, two years into my research, I requested Keilor Council to rename the Spring St Reserve as Leo Dineen Reserve but they replied that they did not name things after people who were still alive. However his son had read in my histories that I hoped this would happen, and after Leo's death, he approached me to support his move to resubmit my request. Luckily my "The Suburb of Tullamarine", produced for the 1998 Back to Tullamarine had much material from Leo detailing how the Commomwealth had paid most of the cost of Broady, Sharps and Lancefield Rds and so on. I had researched Leo's negotiating skill that had solved Tullamarine's Battle of the Halls in old Progress Association minutes. With such evidence of Leo's great contribution to Tullamarine and Keilor Council, how could Hume Council refuse his son's request?
LINNY WESTCOMBE, BRENDAN SMITH. Linny and his brother (Rod?)played for Glenroy and Brendan Smith played for West Coburg. They both had short fuses and my sixth sense, developed at Castlemaine needed to be on full power when I did the boundary in their games. They were both great players.
CAN I HAVE MY FOOTY BACK UMPY? The mention of Glenroy has refreshed a funny game I did at the oval near the Oak Park Swimming Pool. Glenroy U.18's played their home games there because there were too many teams to fit on Sewell Reserve. This was before the freeway and there used to be a procession of trucks up Pascoe Vale Rd. The match ball very soon found its way onto Pakka Rd and went off with a wonderful bang. The spare ball met the same fate not too long after. The closest description of the atmosphere would have to be the current Mars Bar Advertisement when the mountaineer compares the brakeless train's woes in the frozen mountainous wastes with his experience on Mt Everest but says to a nearby youth: "But you have a Mars Bar son!" The difference in this situation was that the lad was a 10 year old with a full size football. He yielded to his "responsibility" but held his breath every time the ball went a few metres east of the goal to goal line!

(JOHN?) KNOTT, RICKY McLEAN.I think his name was John, but I'm not sure. He was one of the best field umpires I saw while boundary umpiring. He had great control and was onto behind the play stuff. Once we had Ascot Vale at the Walter St Reserve. Ascot Vale was a really historic club and had celebrated its centenary before it was booted out of the E.D.F.L. Their ground was used for umpire training, tribunal hearings and grand finals during my time.
After his V.F.L. career, Ricky McLean had gone to Ascot Vale , joining one or two brothers there. In this particular game Ricky McLean had used his strength and skill to gain possession and kick it, under pressure,60 metres down the ground where it was about to be a certain mark to an Ascot Vale forward, when the whistle blew. Ricky had a go at the opponent that had legitimately bumped him as he kicked and Knotty paid the free kick to the opponent. From then on, Ricky was an angel.
I had been told that Knotty had coached Yarraville to a premiership and when I entered Knott, Yarraville on trove, I discovered that the Knotts were a fairly old Yarraville family, a brother in law of Joseph Knott having drowned in 1919, a member of the family having transferred from Footscray to Yarraville in 1928 etc.
Postscript. Knotty's name was John, he replaced the leading goalkicker as Yarraville's spearhead in 1963 and became umpires' adviser of the Western Suburbs League for seasons 1981-2. (google.)

BARRY HARRISON RICHARD VANDERLOO ANDY CARRICK. Richard Vanderloo was the son of a Glenroy man awarded an O.B.E. (or O.A.M.?)for his services to the Glenroy community. I think Richard was a Pro runner and he had a beautiful running style. He and I did the boundary in the interstate game against(Norwood, S.A.)and A Grade grand final in 1981 but in the first game or so of the 1982 season, the adviser, Barry Harrison, told us both that we were far and away the best boundaries but he was starting a youth policy and we would not be getting the top job again. I was disappointed but he had a point because I was about 39. Barry was later a V.F.A. observer (See Ronny Chapman.) In 1982, to keep my morale up, I set myself a challenge, to run to suburbs alphabetically. Somehow or other, this scheme found its way into V.F.A.folklore and I blame Andy Carrick. I think I remember Andy coming over to the V.F.A. for a while. As well as running alphabetical suburbs (Kew for Q because Queenscliff was a bit far), I used to do hill climbs (10X Afton St etc)in preference to swallowing rubberised bitumen at Aberfeldie Park. One night I talked Andy into doing the Gaffney St hill ten times. We only did it once and he said he'd never do another road run with me unless I carried a cab fare.
JACK HARRIS. Jack was the E.D.F.L. Administrator. Barry Harrison decided to devote a meeting night in about May to goal setting. Umpires were challenged to achieve the highest possible goals. David Richmond, a colleague at Gladstone Park Primary was umpiring with the V.F.A.and I had intended to have a run with him at Royal Park. I went a few days after the motivational meeting but found they'd left the rooms. I caught them and as I made my way through the group looking for Dave, I was impressed with the atmosphere of comradeship that was so evident. Arriving back at the rooms, I met the Adviser, Jim Chapman, the equally little bugger I could never beat around Albert Park Lake.

MID 1883-1990.
TERRY WHEELER.DANNY DEL-RE. After a handful of games in the Panton Hills League, and some seconds games, glowing reports from observers such as Billy McWilliams saw me appointed to a Yarraville game in the last home and away round of 1983, not bad for a 40 year old recruit. I had to report a Yarraville player, the last V.F.A.umpire to do so as it was the club's last game. The next year I became a regular on the first division panel and as a Williamstown supporter in the glorious 1950's, looked forward to doing a Willy game. Despite my reluctance to report players, Danny Del-Re was a naughty youngster and I had to do my duty. Terry Wheeler defended Danny to no avail but I became a fan of his that night. His pre-game whispered instructions (audible through the thin umpires' room wall)were just so logical and measured, just like his defence of Danny at the tribunal. When Terry coached Footscray, I became a doggies fan. I think Terry had respect for my efforts as a boundary umpire as well because of comments I heard him make to his assistants.

PHIL CLEARY. He was a cheeky little mongrel. This incident would never happen today because umpires are required to stay detached from scuffles. But as you know by now, I wanted to prevent reports not make them. Terry Wheeler and Phil were wrestling on the ground and I crouched down, practically kneeling so they could see and hear me, and told them to cut it out. Cheerfully Phil, who was on top, agreed and carefully placing his hand on Terry's face, he stood up. I think Terry was laughing too hard to seek retribution.
KENNY MANSFIELD. I should have reported Kenny but I was laughing too hard. I don't know whether it was Phil's idea or just popped into Kenny's mind at that instant. Two tactics that I would never tolerate as a fieldie were very common in the V.F.A. and V.F.L. in the 1980's. The most serious one was the swinging tackle with a closed fist, such as the one that lit Steve Parson's fuse in the 1987 Grand Final. The other tactic was to stand over an opponent who had been awarded a mark or free and was on the ground. The opponent had to walk backwards, doubled over, to get out from between the legs of the man on the mark.
Kenny didn't back out and did not stay doubled over, he just stood up, with his neck and shoulders hoisting the "groinal area" (as the SEN1116 boys call it)of his opponent, and not really gently either. I really should have reported Kenny for misconduct but I'm glad I didn't because that was the last time I ever saw the Stand Over tactic used in any competition.
MARTY ALLISON CAREY HALL. Marty Allison coached the under 10 boys, who became under 12's with much success. The boys then moved up to the Tulla-Ascot Vale Presbyterian under 13's, with Geoff Chivell as coach. Three of the very good players at the time were Bryan Allison, Carey Hall and Ian Scown. Bryan had a long distinguished career with Coburg. Carey Hall became a champion cyclist and married Kathy Watt. Ian Scown had talent to burn and was able to evade opponents with clever weaving and sheer speed but thought he'd get away with it forever. In the school team nobody was allowed to bounce the ball unless a team mate had told him to; if this rule had applied elsewhere, Ian would have played in the V.F.L. Instead he gave the game away in the under 16's when opponents (now catching up in maturity) managed to chase him down.
RINO PRETTO AND BUTCH LITCHFIELD.The V.F.A. game that gave me the greatest enjoyment was a second division game between Oakleigh and Sunshine at Oakleigh. Rino kicked 10 goals for the Oaks and Butch kicked 10 for Sunshine. Sometimes numbers of goals kicked can seem better than what they really are. Such as when an unopposed player is running towards goal and the full back has the no-win situation of deciding whether to just let him kick the goal or to try to put him off and see a handpass lobbed to the full forward.
The game was a non-stop series of fierce man on man contests with hardly an uncontested possession any where. There were no players 30 metres away from an opponent as we see in many games today and the only way a player would be set free would be as the result of a great handpass or shepherd. The leading and footpassing was superb all over the ground but the passes to the full forwards were so clever. A lightning quick lead would be acknowledged with a grass cutter that required a dive forward,Or there would be a long kick to the spearhead whose making a spoil impossible. Or there would be a long kick to the spearhead, whose opponent had taken front position and would be held out of the drop zone by legitimate bodywork . Don't ask me who won. When football is played so beautifully and you are part of the game, what do scores matter.

JOHN SUMMERS, DOUG GOWER. As mentioned before there was tremendous friendship between everyone on the V.F.A. list. At training, people preferred to run with people who would help them gain maximum fitness and with whom they had a special bond. I made the finals panel in my first full season and was in it till my last season, 1990, when I received the token appointment of emergency boundary for the grand final. And when the sun and new- mown grass announced the start of the finals, I didn't need to find new training partners; the three amigos were all in the finals panel again. John and Doug ran many First Division grand finals. Johnny knew every player and every player knew him.
RICHARD LESLIE. Richard Leslie and Richard Vanderloo were the most stylish boundary umpires I ever saw. Both seemed to float across the ground. Richard Leslie had a fine A.F.L. career.
RON CHAPMAN. Ronny Chapman must have been one of the earliest triathletes (or perhaps he did biathlons, that is, running and cycling.) One day he turned up for training after a fall from his bike and looking at his lacerated skin nearly made me faint. I often did road runs with him when the hockey ground was too sloppy to run on but used to leave plenty of room between us or I would have finished up with cracked ribs as Ron's arm swing had his elbows always 30 centimetres from his body.
Ron's mother must have forgotten to wash his mouth out with soap when he was young, if you know what I mean. Ron and I were to run together one day and someone on the panel knew that Barry Harrison was observing. Barry had a passionate dislike, swearing, and some of the panel, who knew about this warned Chappie to watch his tongue. Did he? Not @$%^&*$% likely! Barry went red!
STEVE DONOHUE. Having umpired the 1985 and 1987 V.F.A.versus and 2nd Division grand finals, I decided that I had achieved all I could have visualised at Barry Harrison's motivation night and it was time for this 44 year old to retire. Part of the reason was that the V.F.L. was going to take over the V.F.A. and call it the Victorian State Football League.
I went back to the E.D.F.L. and did the first practice match at Strathmore. They hadn't even bothered to mark the lines properly and I was disgusted with the lack of the professionalism I had known in the V.F.A. So I pushed to the back of my mind the thought of the V.F.A. haters gloating over their revenge for Footscray's defeat of Essendon in the 1924 charity match and the defections of Ron Todd, Bob Pratt, Laurie Nash, Des Fothergill, Soapy Valence etc to the V.F.A.
Steve Donohue was the boundary umpire adviser for what was called the Development Squad, which was made up of promising youngsters from local leagues and some V.F.A. umpires who had remained. I think there was only one division now, and Steve told me that I'd have to start at the bottom and work my way up. It didn't take long until Steve was ringing Bill Dellar and telling him that there was a new boundary on the senior panel. When Steve answered Bill's query about how old he was, Bill spluttered, "Forty four, that's too old to be a goal umpire!"
BILL SUTTON. Bill was the boundary adviser for the V.F.L./A.F.L. Confusing isn't it? The V.F.A. became the V.F.L. and the V.F.L. became the A.F.L. How are footy historians going to explain what V.F.L.means when talking about the number of games played by a footballer in the last quarter of the 20th century. Was Barry Round a V.F.L, V.F.A. V.F.L. player? Bill was a top official in the professional running game.
At the end of the 1990 season, Steve Donohue, who obviously had respect for my dedication as a boundary umpire, since he made me the emergency in the Grand Final, asked me if I would help him as an observer. He had already used me as a mentor for youngsters such as Richard Leslie's brother, Sam.
Luckily there were several grounds near Tullamarine, such as Coburg, Preston and Brunswick, most of my observing being done at Coburg but Frankston and Preston were the best grounds for a good view. I would observe the last half of the reserves and the whole senior game. After a while Steve saw that I was capable of looking after the V.F.A. (that's what I still call it!) and he could help Bill with the senior boundaries.
ADAM McDONALD. There was one boundary that looked older than he probably was but the first time I saw him, I gave him my maximum rating of ten. And that happened every other time I saw him. A rating of 8.5 would probably get you onto the finals panel. I'd submit my finals panel at a meeting in early August and then we'd have another meeting early in our grand final week. "Are you sure?" asked Bill, Steve and Laurie Pope when I told them that I had nominated Adam McDonald for a grand final spot. I told them exactly why I was sure and Adam was in.
RABBIT FOOD.I quite like salad but after a long day,but you need something a bit more filling at 8p.m. The A.F.L. was so lousy that we struggled to get sandwiches or pies for our meetings, and don't forget that the travelling to observe was done at my own expense.We got a ticket to the grand final but there was no reserved seat so you had to get there at 9 a.m. and ask somebody to mind your seat while you went to the toilet.
I resigned after the 1992 season. I often wondered what had happened to that young fellow I had gone to bat for when others doubted his ability. The trouble was that I couldn't remember his name. Much later (2011) it popped into my head and I googled AFL, McDONALD. Well done, Adam!


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What do you mean by "That's not good Grammar,"; I bet you wouldn't say that to Granpa! Sorry, my attempts at humour take control at times.
I strive to provide some sort of detail for family historians but when I wrote FOOTBALL NEAR TULLAMARINE, I knew nothing about some of those who attended the 1915 meeting, namely Islip, Fitzgerald, Hillary and Campbell. I had seen the first and last names and Bob Blackwell told me something about Felix Fitzgerald 22 years ago but my mind was blank.

ISLIP. Christopher Islip attended the Broadmeadows Court in 1908 to apply for an old age pension on behalf of James Waylett of Oaklands, who was 95 and couldn't leave his room. Constable Walsh (who would have been stationed at Broadmeadows Township but covered Bulla) stated that Waylett was an old and respected resident who had been a gardener at Oaklands since 1852.(Sunbury News 12-6-1908, page 3.)

C.W.Islip did contract work, probably road making or supplying road metal, for the shire and the final payment on one contract was nearly 26 pounds, which was a lot of money.(Sunbury News 24-10-1903 page 4.)

Mr Islip was one of a large group at the Bulla Shire meeting who were opposing the appointment of a ranger in the east riding. They wanted their cows to continue grazing on the roadside. (This was a common practice and Symonds wrote about certain roads being called Pender's Run for this reason.) Islip must have lived near the Oaklands Rd corner because Cr Brannigan would have turned off Bulla Rd there to go to St Johns Hill. Brannigan said that Islip's cows camping at the corner posed danger on dark nights. (Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter, 22-1-1914, page 5.)

Ethel, the second daughter of Mr C.W. and Mrs Islip married Leonard P.Schiffman of Port Melbourne at St Mary's Bulla on 4-12-1911. (The Argus, 27-11-2911, page 1.) Ethel's older sister was Ivy, who attended the Bachelors' Ball in 1909 and was accompanied the next year by Ethel.Ivy won the under 14 girls' race at the 1907 school picnic, with 1908 seemingly her last year at the school. Oaklands Hunt reports indicate that the Islips, Fitzgeralds and Campbells lived near each other.

Thanks to Neil Mansfield, I can now access the information in my DHOTAMA (DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND.) This reveals that in 1882-3, Joseph and Chistopher had land at Oaklands Junction with nett annual values of 6 pounds and 10 pounds respectively. In 1914-5, L.J.Islip was leasing 46 acres from W.J.White. (Bulla Rates.)

FITZGERALD. The land on which the Islips, Fitgeralds and Camerons etc had their small farms was formerly the town common as shown in the map on Kathleen Fanning's website. I obtained a different version of the parish map from P.R.O.V.It shows three Fitzgerald's blocks and indicates that the common was subdivided by 1870. I do remember the late Bob Blackwell pointing out a brick well dome that William Bedford had built for Felix Fitzgerald but I can't remember whether it was in Oaklands or Somerton Rd.A block in Oaklands Rd started 84 metres north of the Cemetery Lane corner and adjoined a Campbell block which fronted the westernmost point of the curve. Two adjoining blocks were in Somerton Rd between points 458 metres westof Oaklands Rd and and 108 metres east of Blackwell's Lane.The first block was bought in 1874 and the other two in 1876 and 1880. The Ralstons ran a creamery near the Fitzgerald blocks and Bob Blackwell said that Mrs Ralston was a hard taskmaster. Apparently some of them had deserted from ships. When one of them pointed out that the Gilligans' workers, on the north side of Somerton Rd (Greenvale Lane), had knocked off, she replied, "Don't worry, they might have finished earlier, but you will start earlier than they do in the morning!"

So far I have seen about six Oaklands Hunt reports of pursuits across Fitzgerald farms, in one case two Fitzgerald farms.
R.Fitzgerald later bought 40 acres on Oaklands Rd at 12 pounds per acre.(Argus, 30-9-1920, page 10.)

Mrs Fitzgerald, wife of a farmer of Oaklands Rd Bulla, was talking to her husband, who was loading a dray with hay when a truss of hay fell on top of her, fracturing her thigh.(Argus, 23-5-1895, page 7.)

R.Fitzgerald was in Bulla's best when they played a combined Greenvale-Broadmeadows football team. (Sunbury News, 27-5-1905, page 2.) J.Hillary, mentioned later, was also among the best players.

James Gerald Fitzgerald, the second son of the late Mr and Mrs R.Fitzgerald formerly of Oaklands Junction, married Elizabeth Theresa, the only daughter of the late Mr W.P. Fanning and Mrs J Fanning of Sunny Side, at St Patrick's Cathedral yesterday. (Argus, 28-3-1952, page 6.) Google "bulla parish map" and you will find Kathleen Fanning's FANNING FAMILY HISTORY first up.

CAMPBELL. Wise's directory of 1884-5 lists Duncan Campbell, farmer, as a resident of Oaklands Junction. Archibald Campbell was assessed on 10 acres in the Oaklands and Green Gully subdivision of Bulla Shire in 1914-1915.Archie used to work at James Musgrove's implement factory (177 K5) but his boss would never call him Archie, as James regarded shortened versions of names as being disrespectful, according to Bob Blackwell.Buried in the Presbyterian section of the Bulla Cemetery are: Duncan Campbell (died 24-10-1908 at 76; Mary Campbell (died 10-9-1875 at 36); Marion Campbell (d. 24-1-1959 at 84)- all in row 1; Mary Elizabeth Campbell (d. 6-10-1937 at 69-row 6); Archibald Campbell (d. 18-4-1940 at 69 - row 7.) (DHOTAMA page C.19.) The above cemetery information was transcribed from (often- broken)headstones circa 1889 and fatigue may have caused an error. Neil Mansfield and John Shorten have produced a wonderful register of burials at the cemetery. Entry 279 is Mary Isabella Campbell; I wrote Mary Elizabeth. The register indicates that Duncan married Mary, the daughter (born in Scotland) of Duncan Cameron and Marion (nee McConichie.) Duncan's parents were Alexander and Mary (Gilchrist.) Marion (1867),Mary Isabella (1868) and Archibald ( 1870) were Duncan and Mary Campbell's children.

I had recorded two trove entries that I assumed were related to the Oaklands Junction Campbells; it did puzzle me how they could have thousands of sheep grazing on a tiny paddock! I will preface these entries with information from pages 15, 27 and 100 of Harry Peck's "Memoirs of a Stockman" that I have detailed on page C.19 of DHOTAMA.
Six Campbell brothers were early settlers in the Sunbury-Gisborne area. Hugh and John fattened sheep at Riddell's Creek and Dugald and Nichol at Traralgon Park. Incidentally the latter pair was probably on land first grazed and named by the Hobsons, subject of another journal.
(Argus 27-12-1893, page 6.) H. and J. Campbell of Bulla had sold 4700 wethers which had been delivered to "The Meadows" near Cobar.
(Argus 23-7-1891, page 1.) Mary Stewart Campbell, 11 years 9 months, daughter of John and Mary Campbell, died on the 2nd at Bulla Bulla Station, Cobar, New South Wales.

These Campbells were obviously not related to Duncan, Archie etc. It is likely that they were squatters west of Konagaderra Rd and that they called their run Bulla Bulla. The parish of Bulla Bulla adjoins the parish of Bolinda and it is possible that Hugh and John's run straddled the parish boundary. If they were there when Governor Bourke visited John Aitken at Mt Aitken, the Gov. might have heard the name and suggested that Hoddle use it for the land north of Tullamarine parish. Clarke's Special Survey probably took their run. If you google "Bulla parish map" and click on the first site (Kathleen Fanning's)you will see Bolinda Parish and Clarke's land (probably a pre-emptive right)that became Brannigan's "St John's Hill". I do not intend to investigate my suspicion that Hugh and John Campbell were the originators of the name "Bulla Bulla" at this stage. The words supposedly mean elbow or reclining on the elbow (rather than TWO HILLS as Symonds stated) according to a Donald
McDonald nature column in the Argus. (Although, if one reclined on an elbow, one cheek and feet, the trunk and knees would resemble two hills!)

HILLARY. John Thomas Hillary died at his residence, Bulla, aged 64 on October 15. He was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Hillary and brother of Hannah. (The Argus 16-10-1946, page 19.) What about Bridget?
John was was one of Bulla's best in the footy game against Greenvale- Broadmeadows, as mentioned earlier.

(Sunbury News, 22 and 23-10-1910 etc.)
Martin Lawlor, J.M.Hillary, and Patrick Honan were neighbours near a closed north-south road that led to a creek. Lawlor saw Honan opening Hillary's fence.Hillary had a lease on the closed road and had installed a swing gates but as this had been taken off the hinges, he had replaced the gate with fencing. This had caused trouble for Honan in regard to his children getting to school and watering his cows at the creek.
The closed road may have been Quartz St which still exists or Felspar St which was shown on a Bulla Parish map (including township streets and blocks)that I gave to the Hume Library System. The closed road, which ran from Mica St to the common, had a gate at the south end and the north end ran into the creek.It could have been a portion of Trap St north of the Deep Creek crossing.(My kingdom for that map!)
Incidentally, Quartz, Mica and Felspar Streets were so- named because of the rare white Kaolin Clay which was mined for some time. Trap St may have been named because of the gold-escort troopers stationed nearby before they were relocated to Keilor, Trap being the diggers' term for a trooper.

I CAN KEEP MY KINGDOM. Maps and text in DHOTAMA (H 56 for Hillary and H 86 for Honan)show the following. Felspar st is the present main road that went downhill to the creek with William Bethell's bluestone store on the left. I always wondered why there was a coffee palace in Trap St. This would have to be because it was intended to be the main street, crossing the creek. Quartz St ran north to where the public section ends (177 A5)and then ran westward along the middle of the horseshoe bend.T.Hillary was granted lots 5 and 6 of section 2 of this western extension and in 1914-5, J. Hillary was assessed on this land. T.Hillary was also granted lot 1 of section 3 bounded on the south by Mica St(almost the course of Sunbury Rd as it climbs towards the west just over the bridge) and on the west by that northern extension of Trap St. The Honans were south of Mica St on lots 1 and 2 of section 6 leased from Slattery. Lawlor had a good vantage point to see Honan interfering with Hillary's fence because his land fronted the north east side of Sunbury Rd(176 J5, part K 5 and 6.) Hillary had probably fenced the northern part of Trap St off right at the Mica St corner and the present start of Sunbury Rd at Troopers Bend may not have been made (with the resultant discovery of gold rush skeletons). Why this would require Honan, and his children, to go around the north (uphill) side of Hillary's land is hard to understand. Perhaps he had also bought a block south of Mica St (which is slightly south of the present road)and blocked that street too. I can't be sure but I believe that the Bulla State School was still on the north side of the east end of Mica St (177 A6.)
Too many things don't make sense but next time you cross the bridge and start to climb, visualise Honan on your left, and on your right, Hillary, with Lawlor (the witness)up near the Loemans Rd roundabout.

OUCH! Mrs Hillary of Bulla suffered a compound fracture when one of her fingers was caught in the cog-wheel of a wool press. (Sunbury News, 13-10-1900, page 2.)

TRAGEDY . Mrs Thomas Hillary and her daughter were both drowned while bathing in Deep Creek.
(South Australia Register, 5-2-1895, page 8.)

(Sunbury News and Bulla and Melton Advertiser, 9-2-1895, page 3.)
At 3p.m. Mrs Hillary and 11 year old Mary Lawlor went to Deep Creek to bathe just below Mrs Scannell's house . After half an hour they were joined by Mrs Hilary's two daughters, Hannah and 9 year old Bridget Annie. The latter got out of her depth and Hannah also got into trouble trying to help her, and when their mother went to her aid, she and Bridget both disappeared in the water.Mary Lawlor ran to Scannell's but Mr Scannell was not home so Miss Scannell ran 300 yards to the Lawlor house. Mr Lawlor and his son, Daniel, got Mrs Hillary's body to the bank and rescued Hannah from neck-deep water. Daniel then dived and found Bridget Annie's body which James Cahill of Sunbury helped him remove from the water. Several neighbours and state school teacher, Mr Meeking, attempted resuscitation but in vain. John ,12, and Hannah,10, are now motherless. Mr Hillary is in the employ of the Shire as a roadsman.


I happened to notice that a large proportion of the surname list for the ASCOT VALE HERITAGE WALK journal had disappeared. The missing surnames are listed here and in this surnames list so I can check that none disappear from this surname list too.


The same thing happened here so I will break this into part 1 and part 2.
Part 1 will contain a surnames list for the first 24 surnames (Higgins to Drew) above.


I happened to notice that a large proportion of the surname list for the ASCOT VALE HERITAGE WALK journal had disappeared. The missing surnames are listed here and in this surnames list so I can check that none disappear from this surname list too.



The same thing happened here so I will break this into part 1 and part 2.
Part 1 will contain a surnames list for the first 24 surnames (Higgins to Drew) above.

This journal (part 2)is to place ( and hopefully keep)the following surnames in the surnames list:DIXON, BREEZE, FLEMING, BLOOMFIELD, BULLEN, BRUNTON, LEITH, MCCULLY, CURRIE, TAYLOR, FENTON, COLE, MCDOUGALL, POMEROY, CLARK, CAMERON, BUCHANAN, TURNER, PUCKLE, RILEY, WREN, NATHAN,(22 names.)


It is very difficult to ascertain the first use of present names of streets and roads in the shire on trove. There would be no record of why streets were so named, so assumptions need to be made. Unfortunately,it is very highly unlikely that Joseph Banks' botanist mate, who climbed Arthurs Seat with Flinders, was the person being honoured.

I believe that the Rye end of the road, where James Little Brown turned burrows and scrub into beautiful pasture was first named, with perhaps other names applied east of Weeroona St. Later it would have made sense to apply one name to the whole length of the road as seems to have happened between Truemans Rd and Rye where Guest St, named after the family of Ray and Alma Guest,extends outside the Almaray Estate into the pre-emptive right and east into Alf Doig's Oceanaire Estate.

When Flinders (and Kangerong till 1914)Shire let contracts for roadworks they would state how many chains and the names of residents at each end of the stretch of road BECAUSE VERY FEW ROADS HAD NAMES.

As late as 1943, some roads still had different names than they bear today and they were probably not official. See George Hill's death notice below. Rye Rd was most likely today's Melbourne Rd.

HILL.-On April 28, at his residence, Rye road, Sorrento. George, dearly beloved husband of Elizabeth, loving father of Lucy(Mrs. Waldon) Ethel (Mrs. Cain), William, Charles, Arthur, Bob, Mary (Mrs. Aslin), Eric, Len, aged 77.(P.2, Argus, 29-4-1943.)

Eastbourne Rd in Rosebud was called Ford's Lane in about 1902 because Cr William Ford had owned the 660 acre Wannaeue Station on its south side from Jetty Rd(the road near the state school) to Boneo Rd (which was known as the Flinders road) a couple of decades earlier. By 1920 Jack Raper, a former Essendon Football Club player and official, whose embarrassing surname was pronounced by Rosebud oldtimers as Roper, owned the Wannaeue Estate and the road was called Roper's Lane. It is now named after S.S.Crispo's grants, which he named Eastbourne and where he wanted the new nation's capital to be sited and named Federanium. Edward Williams, whose new homestead (17 WILLIAM Crescent- how stupid!) was built a few years after his mate's death,retain Crispo's name for the property.

In about 1904 when Robert Henry Adams and Back Road Bob Cairns were having a huge drainage dispute, today's Bayview Rd was called Hobson's Flat road by Robert Anderson of Barragunda, Cape Schanck (to which the road led, meeting today's Boneo Rd at Melway 253 C 9-10.) (P.2, Mornington Standard, 29-10-1904.)

Weeroona St, Rye was called Jennings Road, after the family went to Rye from Camperdown and bought land rehabilitated by James Little Brown to establish "Kariah". It was between Weeroona Rd and Dundas St (which was originally known as Browns Rd.)

It is unknown when Dundas St became known as Browns Road but one would suspect that it was after the c.1909 arrival of JAMES LITTLE BROWN.

BROWN James Little J.P. 1915-22
(Postscript. Despite being called John in a long succession of assessments, the man after whom Browns Rd was named was James Little Brown.)

ROSEBUD. Mr J. L. Brown, who is opposing Mr Marsden in the West riding of the Flinders and Kangerong Shire, addressed the ratepayers on Tuesday evening. (P.3, Mornington Standard, 29-8-1914.)

At the last meeting of the Shire Council Councillor A.D.Forbes of the East Riding and Councillor J.L.Brown of the West Riding announced their intention of not seeking re election. The president (Councillor Macfarlan) and other councillors expressed regret at the announcements. In the Central Riding Councillor Wettenhall is opposed by Mr Holland of "The Rest" Flinders,and the contest is likely to be very keen.
(P.14, Argus, 17-8-1923, BALNARRING.)

LIME LAND LEISURE discusses at great length how James Little Brown arrived in Rye in 1909 on a pushbike, having previously been in the Mallee. He noted how similar the ti tree and rabbit infested area south of Rye was to King Island and bought much land that had passed into the hands of creditors. Patricia Appleford's RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL 1667, gives the same information but adds more detail.

Jim stayed for 18 days with Robert Rowley on the west side of Truemans Rd, south of Trueman's grant.Then he went to Melbourne and bought 1500 acres from banks and trust companies. In very short time, land was cleared, burned, fenced and sown with grass. The wire netting fences kept rabbits out and those trapped inside could not escape the inevitable.Overseen by James Cain and Robert Myers, well were dug and windmills installed to pump water into concrete troughs.

Within 12 months, Jim was selling fattened beef cattle. The rate collector may have made a mistake in 1910, unless Jim had a son called John. John H.Little Brown was assessed on:
245 acres (33AB, 35), 164 acres (29A), 102 acres (28A), 95 acres (26A) all in Wannaeue, and a total of 853 acres in the parish of Nepean (west of Weeroona Rd.)The strange thing is that there was no member of the Brown family assessed in the Wannaeue parish part of West Riding in 1919, with one exception! The location of each piece of Wannaeue land, with the name of the grantee, follows.

35, 173 acres, P.Sullivan, Melway 168 H-J11-12, 251H-J1,adjoining The Dunes.
33A, 148 acres, P.Sullivan, 251 J 2-3, K3.
33B, 40 acres, J.B.Davies, 251, K2.
29, 164.5 acres, J.Spunner, 252 D1-3.
26A, 21.5 acres, W.A.Blair Jnr, bottom third of 252 F-G 1 with a 228 metre frontage to the west side of Truemans Rd and extending to the east boundary of the Eagle Ridge Golf Course. The rate collector had it wrong; Crown allotment 26, granted to Edward Ford, consisted of 95 acres 2 roods and 20 perches and was obviously the land being assessed..
26, 95 acres, E.Ford, 252 G2-3, with frontages of 784 metres to Truemans Rd and 334 metres to Limestone Rd.

Nepean Land.
The rate collector took the easy way out by writing only "853 acres Nepean".

It is stated in LIME LAND LEISURE that the first land that James Little Brown improved was south of Rye Township between Dundas St and Weeroona Rd. Whether this included suburban lots 10,11 and 12 of the township (roughly 200 acres) which became the Ryelands Estate (McDonald's former golf course) is unclear, but a map in the book seems to indicate that it adjoined the cemetery. South of the Golf Pde corner were crown allotments 4, 20 and 21 of the parish of Nepean, a total of 374 acres,212 acres of which became Dod Jennings' Kariah in 1914. (See below for clarification.)

This SEEMS tobe blatantly incorrect, as does the claim that it was James Little Brown doing all the reclamation. There is only one mention of James Brown in the rates and that was in 1919, a decade after the reclamation commenced! John L.Brown was written as the ratepayer to be assessed on crown allotments 1, 2, 3 and buildings section 5 (under the heading of RYE, FOLIO 95, ASSESSMENT NUMBER 1882.) John is crossed out and James written above it. (I assumed that James was either the father or son of John Little Brown. If John was a rate collector's error, it is hard to imagine it being repeated for ten years. It was! See below.)

To confirm the claim that Brown arrived and bought land in 1909, I checked the 1909-10 assessments and found the Wannaeue details as in 1910 but also details of the land in the parish of Nepean; there were no entries for 1908-9. The Nepean details were:
24, granted to J.Purves, 99 acres, Melway 251 E1, fronting Dundas St, adjoining The Dunes.
17, 18, James Purves, 282 acres, Melway 168 B-D11,fronting Browns Rd, adjoining Ocean Reserve.
25, J.Purves, 82 acres, Melway 251E1, fronting Dundas St.
26, J.Purves, 111 acres, Melway 251 F2, fronting Dundas St.
32, John Cain, 176 acres(actually about 27 acres), Melway 167 F5, Miller, Topaz and Bath Sts to Harleian St.(See correction below.)
10, 11, Owen Cain, 103 acres (actually 177 acres), Melway 167, J-K 3-4, south to Fern St playground.

Section 5 of Rye Township is that area bounded by Collingwood St, Napier St, Ballabil St (and the south boundary of Kanasta Caravan Park) and Dundas St. James Brown was occupying the whole of section 5's 13 acres in 1919, after his name had replaced John's, and it may well have been the first area restored by James Little Brown but every other piece of land was supposedly turned into beautiful pasture by John Little Brown. Danny Jennings thinks that the Brown homestead on section 5, which is still standing, is 1 May Ave.

I have followed the progress of John Little Brown in 1909, 1914, 1917 and 1919 as he transformed rabbit and ti tree wastelands into this beautiful pasture. By 1914, he only had 202 of the 853 acres on which he had been assessed in the parish of Nepean, part of Owen Cain's Tyrone. He still had it in 1917 but not in 1919.By 1914, he had added land, south of Limestone Rd in the parish of Fingal. This land consisted of crown allotments:
5B, granted to E.Ford, 63 acres, Melway 252 H-J4, bounded by Limestone and Sandy Rds; a maze ing!
8B, granted to J.L.Brown on 1-12-1916, Melway 252 G7, fronting Maxwells Rd from No.131 to about a third of the way between No.180 and No.239. The Fingal land was retained in 1917 but sold by 1919.

By 1916, 28 AB and 29 Wannaeue were occupied by James and John Orr of "Kia Ora", Broadmeadows (Melway 5 H4.) By 1919 the 323 acres were occupied by Tommy Loft who had land at Greenvale, moving shortly afterwards to "Dalkeith" at Tullamarine (Melway 15 G-H 1-2.) Tommy started the Tullamarine Progress Association and was the Methodist Sunday School Superintendent for umpteen years; the late Ray Cairns remembered Tommy fondly.

JUSTICES OF THE PEACE MELBOURNE , Monday. The following were appointed justices of the peace at the meeting of the State Executive Council today: J. L. Brown of Rye, T. Falls, Caulfield. Central Bailiwick; II. S. &�~btnoo etc.(P.4, The Ballarat Courier, 10-10-1916.)

SWAN HILL HOSPITAL MONTHLY MEETING. The monthly meeting of the committee of management of the Swan Hill District Hospital was held on Friday night. Present-Messrs. Chas. t M'Donald (in the chair), ,W? Moore, J.. a Wright, T. M. Ghisholm, P.-Real and F.' arris. Correspondence. From J. L. Brown, Rye, in relation to septic tanks, and stating that tanks at certain hotels and other places at Sorrento were given satisfaction. -Mr. Brown to be thanked for the information supplied. (P.2,Swan Hill Guardian and Lake Boga Advocate, 16-8-1915.)
This seems to indicate that Brown had retained links with the Mallee town. I'm sure the journalist was responsible for the use of given instead of giving.

FLINDERS AND KANGERONG SHIRE. Mr Brown, Rye, applying for wire netting.-To be attended to.(P.4, Mornington Standard, 11-3-1911.)

Railways Standing Committee at Flinders. The members of the above committee-Messrs Cameron (chair man), Hicks, Melville, Billson, Ward and Hutchinson-visited Flinders on the sth inst, to take evidence on the question of railway extension on the Peninsula. Though the notice was short the residents submitted a splendid exhibition of all varieties. The fodder, root crops, and vegetables were remarkable ; and if anything, superior to those forward at any local show. The general and comprehensive exhibits of Messrs Barger and Buchanan were conclusive proof of the suitability of the district for a wide variety of products of the highest quality. Messrs Higgins, Kennedy and Davies submitted fine samples, and Mr D. Cairns showed one stool of wheat showing 64 stalks. Mr Brown's mellilotis grown on the hitherto useless sand drives at Rye was much admired.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 15-2-1915.)

I rang Linda Berndt to check on the ancestry of Cr Graeme Jennings and as an afterthought, asked if she knew anything about John/James Little Brown. She did!
James Brown's father was James L.Brown (c. 1821-Nov.1895)and his mother was Jane (nee McGuffie, c.1825-March 1911.) James was their first child, born in 1866 at Glenlyon, but was virtually an only child because Robert (c.1868-5-9-1869) died in infancy. The Rye pioneer's parents and brother were buried at Glenlyon.

In 1903,James was enrolled as a voter at both Bunyip South and Swan Hill; Jane Brown, possibly his mother, also being enrolled at Swan Hill. In 1909 he was described as a grazier and enrolled at Bunyip South and Bendigo, his address at the latter being Bayne St, as it was for Jane Brown.

James Little Brown married Margaret Annie Short in 1911. She was the sister of Rye identity, Tommy Short, who used to drive all the Rye youngsters to dances at Boneo etc. See pioneers' recollections in RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL 1667. This year also saw the death of James' mother, Jane. His wife's name was recorded as Anne Margaret or Annie Margaret on electoral rolls in 1911 (Rye), 1919 (Rye), 1924 ("Inverleigh", Thomas St, Dandenong),
1931, 1936, 1937 (5 Trentham St, Sandringham, 1936, 1937, and 1942 (88 Bay Rd, Sandringham.) In 1954, James was still living at 88 Bay Rd but Margaret's name was not on the electoral roll.

Thank you Linda!

Further rate research revealed the following.
J.L.Brown must have told the rate collector in 1911 that his name was actually JAMES because John was crossed out and James written very faintly above it (Assessment No.823.) Too faintly it seems because when he was preparing the next assessment, he must have missed the alteration and perpetuated the "John" myth. It seems that James was sick of this nonsense by 1919 when John was again crossed out and replaced with James. You'd think the rate collector would know the councillors' names, wouldn't you?

The 1911-12 rates also demonstrated the new occupants of the many properties that Jim Brown had remediated. My notemaking is unclear about William Dawson but he seemed to have had part of 35 Wannaeue. George Ball had 245 acres(33a,b and 35 Wannaeue), and 176 acres(32 Wannaeue-see below.) Jim Woonton had 164 acres (29), 102 acres (28A), and 95 acres (26A), all in Wannaeue. In 1912-13, George Ball had 245 acres, Andrew Leonard Ball* 214 acres, and Andrew, George and Hector Ball 261 acres.

Crown allotment 32 Wannaeue was not mentioned previously because the rate collector called it 32 Nepean in 1909 (assessment number 714.) This land consisted of 176 acres as the rate collector stated; he just had the parish wrong!Granted to J.A.Jenner in 1877, it fronts the east side of Springs Lane and the north side of Limestone Rd, its northern boundary adjoining The Cups Vineyard and Winery and its east boundary indicated by the west end of Kingston Heath. (Melway 252 B 1-3.)

When James Little Brown first arrived in Rye, he stayed with Robert Rowley for a while. The connection between the Doigs and Rowleys took place in the Mallee, and also the Shaws and Rowleys but I had assumed that was post world war 1. James obviously knew Robert before he arrived. It is possible that the family of J.L.Brown had previously lived on the Peninsula. James was obviously as keen to hear Robert Rowley's stories as Robert was to tell them. Thank you to Steve Johnson for another gem.

9th September 1924
Sir,-In the interesting article, "The Gippsland Mystery," on Saturday, by Ernest McCaughan, it is stated that a party of five whites and ten blacks were sent out under the leaderhip of De Villiers, an ex police officer who kept the extraordinary named No Good Damper Inn. Apropos of this, a story was related to me by the late Robert Rowley, then of Rye (a very old colonist who had known Buckley, the wild white man). The story, which may be of interest, is that about the year 1840 lime was being burnt about Sorrento and Rye. A layer of sheoak logs was laid on the ground, then a layer of limestone. Another layer of logs, then again stone, and so on, until there was a considerable stack. Fire was next applied. By this rough and ready, though wasteful, system, lime used in the building of early Melbourne was then burned. The lime was then "slacked", afterwards sieved through a fine sieve, and forwarded to Melbourne by ketch. One of these old windjammers had the misfortune to go aground near the site of Frankston. The lime was taken off undamaged, stacked, and care- fully covered a little way from the shore. A number of blacks were in the vicinity.

They had had some little experience of the white fellow's flour. When they found the lime, sieved and done up in small bags under a tarpaulin, they were sure they had got the genuine article in plenty. So they mustered in force, took away all they possibly could, and, fearing pursuit, did not stop running till they put about 12 miles between them and the stack of lime. The blacks then mixed their flour with water upon their 'possum rugs and put the dough in the ashes to bake, the result being spoiled rugs and bad damper. In the words of Mr. Rowley, "they called that place Dandenong," which means "no good damper.
-Yours, &c., J. L. BROWN, Sandringham, Sept. 8.