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MAR LODGE AND TWEEDSIDE RE OAKLANDS HUNT (2) JOURNAL.
THE IMMEDIATE PURPOSE OF THIS JOURNAL IS TO PROVIDE A MAP SHOWING THESE TWO PROPERTIES TO ACCOMPANY THE OAKLANDS HUNT (2) JOURNAL. SEE ATTACHED PLAN.
MARIANO AND AGNES PIDOTO OF WILLIAMSTOWN, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.
In the last few months there seem to have been some blank and apparently crank comments under my journals* and as my time is too precious to waste, I'm hoping the private message from rosebudtwo wasn't of a similar nature.
(*Two from this person, to whom I sent this private message to which I did not receive a reply:
Subject: ARE YOU HAVING TROUBLE POSTING?
To: Bluryilky
From: itellya
Date: 2017-06-26 20:38:26
There is no message in either comment.)
Subject: carmelo and mariano pidoto
To: itellya
From: rosebudtwo
Date: 2017-07-03 05:24:49
i am the great grandson of mariano pidoto and have lived in dromana and rosebud 51 years most of the data is right some is not
As usual, I replied promptly, supplying my address, email address and phone number.
Subject: RE: carmelo and mariano pidoto
To: rosebudtwo
From: itellya
Date: 2017-07-03 07:33:28
I'd love to find out what is wrong so I can correct it.
Perhaps rosebudtwo was distracted by some problem and just forgot to reply, and this journal will catch his attention.
PIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTOPIDOTO
PIDOTO.-On 10th July, at her residence, 53 Stevedore Street,Williamstown North, Agnes, relict of the late Captain Mariano James Pidoto, dearly loved mother of Vera (Mrs. Geary), Eileen, Leslie (late R.A.N.), James (2nd
A.I.F.), Ann and May; loved stepmother of Rosina (Mrs. F. Patterson), John (dec.), Cecilia (Mrs.C.G.Yeomans, Sydney), William(dec.), Joseph and Ted. In her 85th year. A patient sufferer. Rest in peace.
(P.12, Williamstown Chronicle, 11-7-1947.)
Mrs. PIDOTO.
An old and esteemed resident,Mrs. Agnes Pidoto, died on Thursday of last week as her home, 53 Stevedore- Street, after an illness of only a few days. She was born at Talbot 84 years ago and was the widow of the late Capt.
Mariano Pidoto. She had resided locally for 60 years and leaves four sons and six daughters to mourn their loss. The funeral took place on Friday afternoon, leaving her residence for interment in the local cemetery. Many beautiful floral tributes were received. Ernest W. Jackson & Son had charge of the funeral arrangements and
the Rev. Fr. L. J. O'Neill officiated at the cemetery.(P.2, Williamstown Chronicle, 18-7-1947.)
Agnes' maiden name was Hobson. VICTORIAN BDM.
EventDeath Event registration number6879 Registration year1947
Personal information
Family namePIDOTO Given namesAgnes SexFemale Father's nameHOBSON Joseph Mother's nameMargaret (Bowie) Place of birthTALBOT Place of deathWILLIAMSTOWN Age84
Death record for Mariano James Pidoto.
EventDeath Event registration number14470 Registration year1917
Personal information
Family namePIDOTO Given namesMariano Jas SexUnknown Father's namePidoto Juan Mother's nameRosa (Strana) Place of birth Place of deathWmstown Age77
PETER PIDOTO'S death RECORD.
This shows that Victorian BDM data relies on what informants provide and typos are not unknown. Peter and Mariano's parents were obviously the same.
EventDeath Event registration number10319 Registration year1891
Personal information
Family namePIDOTO Given namesCarmelo SexFemale Father's nameGiovanni Mother's nameRosa (Straus) Place of birth Place of deathFitz N Age60
THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. I THINK PETER'S PLACE OF BIRTH WAS SUPPLIED IN THE JOURNAL I WROTE ABOUT HIM.
QUESTIONSTO ANSWER
Where did Mariano and Agnes meet? Did Agnes remarry or did Mariano? Who were the parents of Agnes' stepchildren, Mrs F.Patterson (Rosina), etc.?
MARITIME HEROES, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA - ROLLS OF HONOUR.
This is the first time I've written about something that never existed (as far as I know.)I have suggested that coastal town historical societies and like bodies compile a roll of honour of maritime heroes who performed rescues at their towns and that an annual MARINE HEROES DAY could be held on November 10-11 when William John Ferrier performed his heroic rescues at Warrnambool in 1905.
City of Kingston historian,Graham Whitehead,thinks it is a good idea and suggested that the late Jack Pompei of Mordialloc would be a good nomination. It should be fairly simple to compile a roll of honour for each town. A trove search "rescue, name of town" should produce plenty of results. This is the case for my Mordialloc search but there is a snag. Whether it was lazy reporting or modesty on the part of the rescuers, the saviours in some cases were identified only as lifesavers.
POSTSCRIPT.3-6-2014.My aim was to show the sterling role of fishermen such as William John Ferrier in saving crews of wrecked vessels. However there were few examples of this in regard to Mordialloc because "watering places",as they were called,past Rosebud from where the shipping channel headed straight to Melbourne, were well away from the route of most vessels. In fact, James Purves had great trouble getting his insurance paid on the "Rosebud" following its stranding in 1855,because insurers claimed that the area was on the east coast of the bay (not covered by the policy) rather than the south. See: " The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 29 November 1855 p 6 Article... the wreck was lying most decidedly on the southern coast, and not on the eastern. The captain of the ... considered the spot where the vessel was wrecked to be the eastern coast. The south coast, if tiny part could "
What the results for Mordialloc do show is social change. The sea was only thought of in regard to transport. Then the affluent citizens of Marvellous Smellbourne escaped the heat, dust, smell,smoke and rat-race lifestyle to relax by the seaside for the lengthy SEASON. Due to prudish regulations,this mainly meant rolling up the trousers enough to paddle in shallow water. The sea views and cool breezes were the main attraction.
Those not so well off could later enjoy a day visit by steamer to Sorrento and other far flung watering places thanks to such as Richmond's George Coppin (whose son was one of our heroes.)They too would enjoy a paddle,the cooler weather,sea views and the fresh air.
As regulations were relaxed regarding bathing costumes, swimming became possible and of course many non-swimmers or weaker swimmers, as well as boat owners, were getting into trouble. Lifesaving Clubs were formed to deal with this problem, some quite early but most when increasing ownership of cars made seaside visits easier. Where there was no lifesaving club, onlookers had the choice of tut-tutting when they saw someone in trouble or following the tradition of William John Ferrier.
I thought I'd get the ball rolling. Here we go! l/s=Lifesaver; *=previously mentioned.
The Royal Humane Society used to consider the degree of risk in determining awards but I'm sure that if I was being rescued my gratitude would be just as great no matter the circumstances. Agree?
LAW OF THE SEA IGNORED
TO THE EDITOR OP THE ARGUS
Sir: During the sudden squall in the Bay on Sunday last, which capsized a large number of yachts along the eastern shores, many rescues were made. This rescue work among watermen is an unwritten law.A unique case to the contrary happened off the Aspendale beach on Sunday. I would like to hear from persons who witnessed this incident of a motorboat passing a capsized crew without making any attempt at rescue, or even a word of encouragement.
-W. TEMPLETON, Hon Sec, Mord 12 Sq Metre Sailing Club (26 William st, Mordialloc).P.3,Argus,28-1-1947.
APOLLO BAY.
HARRY NEAL(Mordialloc),MR H.MYERS (Melbourne). News (Adelaide, SA : 1923 - 1954) Tuesday 17 March 1936 p 6; The Courier-Mail (Brisbane, Qld. : 1933 - 1954) Tuesday 17 March 1936 p 13 Article.
Townsville Daily Bulletin (Qld. : 1885 - 1954) Wednesday 18 March 1936 p 6 Article
BRIGHTON.
ROBERT JOHNSON, aged 28, fisherman, who rescued a father and child from drowning at the Brighton pier on December 26?a bronze clasp to a medal previously awarded. P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
FRANKSTON.
PATRICIA RILEY,13, SGT.D.PLAISTER(l/s). P.3,Argus,28-12-1943.
GEELONG.
Alice Mallard, aged 19, who saved a girl from drowning at Geelong on March 1?a bronze medal.P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
LAKES ENTRANCE.
MR.G.T.GARDNER (Mordialloc), GEORGE ROBBINS (North Fitzroy), JAMES WATSON (Lakes?) Daily Herald (Adelaide, SA : 1910 - 1924) Wednesday 15 January 1919 p 7 Article.
MORDIALLOC.
SYLVESTER JACK POMPEI, Mordialloc. Vic, for service to marine search and rescue activities in Port Phillip Bay.
Australia Day Honours,P.6,The Canberra Times, 26-1-1987. Order of Australia Medal.
PATRICK O'DEA, 14, Malvern. Bairnsdale Advertiser and Tambo and Omeo Chronicle, Saturday 7 January 1888 p 3.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 20 April 1888 p 5 Article (Bronze Medallion,Aspendale.)
MISS JEAN McLAREN. The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954) Monday 31 January 1949 p 1 Article.
GORDON GRIEVES l/s. P.6,Argus,2-1-1945.
CLAUDE QUIST. l/s. P.6,Argus, 2-1-1945.
Claude Quist, of the Mordialloc Lifesaving Club, ran more than half a mile toward Parkdale at lunchtime
yesterday and then swam 150 yards to the rescue of three girls.etc. P.3,Argus,22-3-1948.
The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879 - 1954) Monday 27 February 1950 p 1 Article.
MESSRS. E.ALICA, A.SINGLETON, J.MILLAR, T.BALL l/s. P.16,Argus,7-12-1944.
JAMES THOMAS MURRAY (Newport Workshops).P.10,Argus,4-1-1926.
WILLIAM HALKERSON,71, East Brunswick. P.8, Barrier Miner,4-1-1945; The Argus, Friday 5 January 1945 p 5.
HARRY NEAL (at Apollo Bay). News (Adelaide, SA : 1923 - 1954) Tuesday 17 March 1936 p 6 Article
ERNEST MITCHELL (Fitzroy), LEMS HENN. P.6,Argus, 14-2-1916.
MISS MARIE AGNES CONROY (Mordialloc). Barrier Daily Truth (Broken Hill, Tuesday 7 January 1941 p 4 Article.
G.T.GARDNER (Mordialloc). See Lakes Entrance.
TEDDY SWORDS,14, Dandenong. Daily Herald (Adelaide, SA : 1910 - 1924) Saturday 8 December 1923 p 7 Article.
P.11,Argus, 4-12-1923.
ALFRED DIXON (Carlton). Cairns Post (Qld. : 1909 - 1954) Monday 13 April 1936 p 7 Article (Alfred's name.)
Chronicle (Adelaide, SA : 1895 - 1954) Thursday 16 April 1936 p 3 Article. (Mordialloc pier.)
FREDERICK HILSDEN COPPIN (Richmond, George's second son.) P.6,Argus,4-8-1881; P.11,Argus,17-9-1881 (certificate from Victorian Humane Society.)
ALBERT ALEX. STEPHENS, aged 12, who saved a boy from drowning in Mordialloc Creek on March 6, a bronze medal. P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
GEORGE COOTE. -One of Victoria's most outstanding life savers, George Coote, of Mordialloc, 25 miles from Melbourne, carried an unconscious man on his back in a mile swim to shore at Mordialloc today.etc.
Morning Bulletin (Rockhampton, Qld. : 1878 - 1954) Monday 27 February 1950 p 4 Article.
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954) Tuesday 28 February 1950 p 1 Article.
ALEX.FERGUSSON (at Mentone.) The Mail (Adelaide, SA : 1912 - 1954) Saturday 17 April 1943 p 3 Article.
P.3, Army News,Darwin,21-4-1943.
MR.F.WALKER (Korumburra). P.6,Argus,27-2-1900.
R.GARRARD (Olympic wrestler), J.BAILEY, R.JOHNSON,E.ALLICA*, l/s. P.2,Argus,21-3-1939.
MR.A.BOWDEN,KEITH GLENISTER,JACK RICHARDS (pictured.)P.1, Argus,6-2-1956.
JEAN McEACHERN, young l/s. P.3,Argus,28-12-1943.
CLAUDE QUIST*,JOHN CARTER l/s. P.5,The Mercury,Hobart,12-3-1951.
DOUGLAS NORMAN,14,Malvern. P.9,Argus,18-2-1916.
MISS MARY HOWARD.P.4, Argus,15-12-1908.
EDWIN HARRY,Mordialloc scout (at Mentone). P.9,Argus,14-3-1927. (silver cross.)
MR. LESLIE WATKINS,L/S Pres., at Mentone. P.15,Argus,13-1-1947.
MISS CONNIE HASTINGS,JAMES LENNON,L/S.P.3,Argus,31-1-1949.
MARGARET CAREY,16. P.3, Argus,15-11-1951 (photo.)
JOHN ARIES,14, P.4,The Canberra Times, 30-12-1939.(Saved 13 stone woman.)
FIRST CONSTABLE HODGSON,HARVEY (KLAUER?), WILLIAM,JOHN AND EDWARD?,CYRIL HARDY,FRANK (RICHARDSON?)
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 1 May 1936 p 1 Article.
AND THAT'S ONLY A START!
MORNINGTON.
MR H.FURZE, Leongatha. P.8,Argus,8-7-1913.
PORT ALBERT.
MR.H.AVERY,FITZ. WRECK IN THE PORT ALBERT HARBOUR.
Gippsland Times (Vic. : 1861 - 1954) Wednesday 15 June 1887 p 3 Article
PORTSEA.
LOUISA RIPKEY, aged 15, who rescued a boy from drowning at Point Nepean on January 19?a silver medal and
JAMES MOORE, aged 28, mounted constable, for assisting Miss Ripkey in the previous case?a bronze medal.
both P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
QUEENSCLIFF.
MESSRS. W.BREEN, G.MARABELLA (MIRABELLA?), W.MOUCHEMORE (at Torquay.) P.7,Argus,11-11-1936.
RYE
MR.C.P.GARTSIDE M.L.C. P.5,Argus, 6-2-1951.
EDWARD GLOVER 3rd mate of dredge.P.11 Argus, 11-2-1926.
TORQUAY.
MESSRS. W.BREEN, Q.MARABELLA (MIRABELLA?), W.MOUCHEMORE (Queenscliff.) P.7,Argus,11-11-1936.
WARRNAMBOOL.
Charles Dingle, aged 25, mate of the steamer Investigator, who saved a man from drowning at Warr- nambool on March 1?a bronze medal. P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
WILLIAMSTOWN.
WILLIAM DUNN,12. [ re-find source!!!!!!!]
MARTIN LAVARS' FARM ADJOINING BROADMEADOWS TOWNSHIP, VIC., AUST. IN 1889: WHICH FARM WAS THAT?
This journal is dedicated to Elayne Whatman of the Broadmeadows Historical Society, now in a nursing home, whose dedication over many years has encouraged my continued research into the history of the Broadmeadows area.
MARTIN LAVARS' FARM ADJOINING BROADMEADOWS TOWNSHIP, VIC., AUST. IN 1889: WHICH FARM WAS THAT?
It was "CHANDOS".
Broadmeadows Ploughing Match.
The Broadmeadows annual ploughing match took place on the 6th inst., on Mr. M, Lavars's farm adjoining the township of Broadmeadows, and passed off very satisfactorily. There was a large attendance of the public and a first-class muster of ploughmen.----- etc. (P.3, Weekly Times, 22-6-1889.)
Anybody researching the Lavars family could make a wrong assumption given the location of Martin's farm in the report of the sale of the property* and finding Lavers (sic) Place at Melway 6 A5.** My immediate reaction was that the farm must have been Willowbank immediately north of Kenny St but that farm was owned by the heirs of Donald Kennedy until the Dundonald estate was sold in 1929***.
* Two fine subdivisional properties at Broad-
meadows were offered, both close to the town
ship, the one comprising 498 1/4 acres, having
nearly a mile of frontage to the road from
Broadmeadows to Donnybrook and let under
lease, having yet twelve months to run, to Mr
Martin Lavars at a rental of £200 per annum,
and the other 360 Acres immediately opposite
tho above, which is occupied by Mr Williamson
at a rental of L175 per annum. The former of
these was sold for L45 per acre, and the second
for L30 per acre. The buyer in each case
being Mr Croker, solicitor, making in all a
total of about L36,000. (P.3, The Herald, 29-3-1888.)
Croker, Tommy Bent, Marks Herman and G.W.Taylor were just a few of the speculators snapping up land along two proposed routes for a railway to Bulla Township. The 1890's depression arrived before the route could be decided and the railway never eventuated despite another push for it in the late 1920's- just before the next big depression. Ownership of the first property returned to the Peter Estate. The Williamsons were probably on Camp Hill but may have been leasing Edmund Dunn's "Viewpoint" between Camp Hill and Stewarton which was indeed opposite the southern portion of the first property. I believe the second property was Camp Hill (later renamed Gowanbrae).
** When Willowbank was subdivided as the Alanbrae Estate in the 1990's, the council put me in touch with the developers who were keen to have the area's history recalled by its street names. I suggested that streets be given the names of pioneers (CHADWICK, LAVARS, GILMORE, MITCHELL, JOHNSON)and farms (WILLOWBANK, CHANDOS.) They obviously checked rate records and got the wrong spelling of Lavars there. I selected Chandos as a name for personal reasons, as an alternative to the surname of my maternal great grandfather, John Cock, which would have not appealed to residents of COCK STREET!
*** WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 27.
At Half-past Two O'Clock. At Scott's Hotel,
Melbourne.
SALE OF GROUP OF
SPLENDID FREEHOLD FARMS
AT BROADMEADOWS,
Comprising:—
KIA ORA, Containing About 359 Acres.
WILLOW BANK, Containing About 299 Acres.
WATTLE GROVE, Containing About 195 Acres.
ANNETTE, Containing About 291 Acres.
SPRING BANK, Containing About 304 Acres.
DUNDONALD, Containing About 399 Acres.
Aggregating About 1848 Acres.
Forming a Compact Group, Separated Merely by
the Main Road.
Under Instructions from THE TRUSTEES, EXE-
CUTORS, AND AGENCY CO., of 412 Collins
Street, Melbourne, in the Estate of Messrs.
D. C. and D. Kennedy, Deceased.(P.2, Argus, 9-11-1929.)
In 1882, Mary Peter, nee Bent, had been farming on Chandos in partnership with Martin Lavars.
7 do (bullocks) for Mrs Peter and Mr Lavars, Broadmeadows (P.9, Argus, 16-11-1882.)
Soon afterwards, Mary Peter died.
MRS. MARY PETER Deceased.— All persons having CLAIMS against the estate of the late Mrs. Peter, of Chandos House, Broadmeadows, are requested to SEND PARTICULARS to Andrew Macgregor, Esq., care of Messrs. Taylor, Buckland & Gates, William-street, Melbourne.(P.3, The Age, 16-12-1884.)
From another journal.
MARY PETER (NEE BENT) AND HER BROTHER JOHN, DIED AT "CHANDOS", TULLAMARINE, VIC., AUST.
Journal by itellya
PETER.—On the 23rd inst., at her residence, Chandos, Broadmeadows, Mary, relict of the late John Peter,
formerly of Tubbo Station, New South Wales, aged 73 years. R.I.P. (p.1, Argus,25-9-1884.)
Funeral Notices.
The Friends of the late Mrs. MARY PETER are invited to follow her remains to the Spencer-street railway station (en route to Wanga Wagga* Cemetery).
The funeral will leave her late residence Chandos,Broadmeadows, THIS DAY (Friday, the 20th inst),at half-past 11 o'clock.(P.1,Argus, 26-9-1884.)
A stained-glass window in Wagga Wagga's Roman Catholic Church (St Michael's, was provided by Mary Peter's grandchildren. ST. MICHAEL'S CHURCH.
Wagga Wagga Advertiser (NSW : 1875 - 1910) Tuesday 30 August 1887 p 2 Article.
Chandos was one of the street names that I suggested for the Alanbrae Estate,the subdivision of "Willowbank" north of Kenny St and the old Broadmeadows Township, now known as Westmeadows.
John Peter bought "Chandos" from the grantee of sections 6 and 15, parish of Tullamarine, John Carre Riddell, the transaction recorded in the memorial volume 170 folio 2. It was part of Riddell and Hamilton's Camieston Estate. It fronted the west side of today's Mickleham Rd from the midline of Londrew Ct. and Freight Rd.(where it adjoined the Junction Estate) north to the Moonee Ponds Creek. Its western boundaries were Derby St (where it adjoined the one acre blocks in Hamilton Terrace)and Wright St (west of which were blocks of about 6 acres that were consolidated into farms such as Wallis Wright's Sunnyside and Charles Nash's Fairview.)
I had always assumed that Bent St in Broadmeadows Township was named after Tommy Bent, politician, but perhaps it was named after Ann Peter's brother.
BENT - On the 10th inst, at the residence of his sister, Mrs. J. Peters, Broadmeadows, John Bent,aged 68 years, NSW papers please copy. (P.1, Argus, 21-2-1880.)
THE Friends of the late Mr. JOHN BENT, are respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, Keilor Cemetery. The funeral will move from the residence of Mrs.J Peters, Broadmeadows, THIS DAY, 21st inst., at 3 o'clock. (P.5, Argus, 21-2-1880.)
The children of Broadmeadows Township had a favourite swimming hole on Chandos that they called Peterson's Hole. Rate records revealed that nobody named Peterson occupied Chandos so the hole most likely got its name because Mary Peter's son swam there.
Consisting of 467 acres, Chandos was mainly in section 6. John Cock who was leasing Gladstone (formerly Stewarton and now the northern 777 acres of Gladstone Park) leased Chandos from the Peter Estate. It was later divided into three farms which became known as Wright's "Strathconan", Bill Lockhart's "Springburn" and Percy Judd's "Chandos Park" of 142, about 188 and 123 acres respectively, Judd's being in section 15.
THE PURE CLYDESDALE STALLION,REVOLTER, Will travel the Broadmeadows and surrounding districts this season.
For pedigree, terms, and .particulars see cards.
MARTIN LAVARS, Proprietor.
WM. WOODYARD, Groom.
"Chandos," Broadmeadows,
23th July, 1885. (P.3, The Australasian, 15-8-1885.)
When I suggested Lavars for a street name on the Alanbrae Estate, I was thinking of John Lavars and his hotel at the south west corner of Mickleham and Somerton Rds, wrongly shown on the north east corner by Annette Davis in her manuscript of her history of Greenvale, GREENVALE: LINKS WITH THE PAST. Hopefully, her history, published under the name of Annette Ferguson shows the correct location. I think Annette mentioned Martin having a farm farther south; I wonder if she knew it was CHANDOS.
Martin's 1888 biography in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS:PAST AND PRESENT states that he commenced farming on his own account in 1879,leasing 500 acres from the D.Kennedy estate, but doesn't indicate whether this was at Glenroy or Broadmeadows or how long he continued this lease.
Martin's claim was correct, the 500 acres were part of the Dundonald Estate on the east side of Ardlie St north of Kenny Street and the lease was to end in March 1886. He was obviously moving onto Chandos whose homestead would have been fully furnished and had given up hay- growing. Willowbank in 1885 seems to have included Wattle Grove of 1929: (WILLOW BANK, Containing About 299 Acres +WATTLE GROVE, Containing About 195 Acres.=494 acres.)
Wattle Grove, between Willow Bank and Glen Allan, was later accessed by a northern extension of Elizabeth St in Broadmeadows Township that became the pipeline from Greenvale Reservoir. Ed Hoctor recalled the Walsh family being on Wattle Grove. William's Station View may have been all or part of John Twomey's Glenallan of 1928.
NOTICE is hereby given that the PARTNERSHIP heretofore subsisting between the undersigned William Walsh of Station View Broadmeadows and John Walsh of Wattle Grove Broadmeadows carrying on business as dairymen at Broadmeadows under the name of William Walsh and John Walsh has been DISSOLVED by mutual consent as from the thirty first day of January 1947.(P.21, Argus, 29-1-1947.)
John Walsh was still on Wattle Grove in 1953.
MARTIN LAVARS HAD BEEN ON THE 500 ACRE WILLOWBANK FROM 1879 TILL 1885 BUT BY 1889 WAS ON CHANDOS WHERE THE PLOUGHING MATCH WAS CONDUCTED.
TO LET.-Broadmeadows, FARM,
500 acres, now in occupation ot Mr. Martin
Lavars, one year, possession March 1 next. Apply
Lynch and M'Donald, Collins-street west, Melbourne.
Sales by Auction.
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 20;
BROADMEADOWS.
CLEARING-OUT SALE at WILLOW- BANK FARM.
flAMPBELL, PRATT, and Co. are
instructed by Mr. Martin Lavers to SELL by
AUCTION, on Friday, 20th February, at eleven
o'clock,
The whole of his valuable
FARM STOCK,
Comprising
10 head dairy cattle
10 superior draught horses, real good farmer's
sorts, including pair by Pride of the Shires,
suitable for a lorry; mare, 1 yrs, by Pride of
the Shires, foal at foot by Pride o' Dee, and
served by Pride of Victoria; mare, by Young
Cowden Lad, and others, all real pullers.
IMPLEMENTS.
2 hay drays with frames, tip-dray, seed-sowerand
cart, stack and field elevators, treble-purchase
winch, Musgrove mower, iron-tooth drag,
double-furrow plough, by M'Calman and Garde,
single plough, Lennon's three-horse harrows,
iron roller, chaffcutter and horseworks, hay
rake, stack-cover, first-class, 72 x 30; dray and
bench covers, Lennon's grubber, sets of buggy,
cart, plough, and leading harness, 1 double
buggy, nearly new, by Geo: Parsons ; 1 single
hooded buggy ; a lot of well-bred fowls, and
quantity sundries.
Lanre stacks first-class hay, about 130 and SO
tons respectively.
HOUSEHOLD FURNITURE
Parlour, dining, bed room articles, grand piano,
and sundries.
Note day of sale, Friday, 20th February.
Luncheon Provided.(P.45, The Australasian, 14-2-1885.)
THE LAST MENTION OF MARTIN LAVARS IN CONNECTION WITH "CHANDOS" WAS IN A STOCK REPORT IN 1893.
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 4 March 1893 p 27
My great grandfather had bought Chandos in 1902 but obviously did not occupy it until Martin's lease had finished.
SALES OF LAND.
Messrs. A. E. Gibson and Co. report having sold "Chandos " Broadmeadows, containing 454 acres,or thereabouts to Mr. John Cock.(P. 14, Argus, 8-2-1902.)
MARY DOWLING OF FLINDERS MARRIED JOHN CALVIN GRIFFITH OF DROMANA, VIC. AUST.
JOHN CALVIN GRIFFITH'S WIFE, MARY.
A photo of Christie Johnstone on the History of Flinders-Crib Point page reminded me that I had discovered Mary's ancestry by chance.
In A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, Colin McLear gave details of all the children of Cr. John Calvin Griffith of Dromana and Mary. Mary Who?
Having all the details of Christie Johnstone's descent from Oliver and Sarah Wilson, I entered "Henry Tuck, obituary" and got what seemed at first hand to be a useless response. But it wasn't, despite the journalist's usual error of rendering Griffith as Griffiths. Mary must have been Mary Dowling!
OBITUARY. DEATH OF MRS. C. DOWLING, By the death of Mrs Catherine Dowling, as mentioned in our last issue, another very old resident of the Mornington Peninsula has been removed from our midst. Mrs Dowling had reached the ripe old age of 86 years at the time of death. Although she was not suffering from any painful illness, she had been gradually failing under the pressure of her advanced years for some considerable time, and her death was not unexpected. She was possessed of an exceedingly kindly, warm hearted disposition, and very many old residents of the district, as well as the younger generation, will remember her as a true friend who had always a kindly word, and was ready to do a kindly action for anyone with whom she came into contact. The deceased lady was born in County Wicklow, Ireland, and reached Melbourne with her husband-who predeceased her by some nineteen years-in the ship " Marco Pauls " on Christmas Day, 1852. She was thus a colonist of nearly 59 years. After spending eight years, in other parts of Victoria, the Dowlings came to Stony Creek, now known as Shoreham, in the year 1860, and they were the first settlers to actually reside on their own holding in this locality, which was a portion of Tuck's Old Manton's Creek run. The country was, at the time of their acquiring the land, in a very rough state, and Mrs Dowling had many interesting incidents of hardships to relate. Her quaint sense of quiet humor always made these reminiscences pleasant to listen to. Their first homestead, a slab erection on the banks of the Creek, was totally destroyed by the collapse of a giant gum tree one very stormy night. In this instance Mr and Mrs Dowling had a very narrow escape from death. A large fork of the tree came down on each side of the bed upon which they were sleeping. Upon another occasion Mr Dowling, when some little distance away from the homestead, was forced by the ferocity of the dingoes to take refuge and spend the night up in the branches of a tree. Of Mrs Dowling's family three daughters and one son, all of whom are well known throughout the Peninsula, are surviving. These are Mrs J. C. Griffiths (sic) of Dromana; Mrs.Joseph Stanley of Balnarring; Mrs West, and Mr Christy Dowling, who was living at "The Glen" with his mother at the time of her death. The recent demise of one daughter, Mrs Henry Tuck, of Flinders, is sadly re- membered by her friends, as is also that of another daughter, Mrs J. West. A son, Mr Thomas Dowling, died some years ago, and another son expired in infancy. The remains of the deceased lady were interred in the Flinders general cemetery, when a very large number of people attended the funeral to show their last respects.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 5-8-1911.)
Since I wrote my journal (type SARAH WILSON, HENRY TUCK in your search bar because the link doesn't work), I have discovered VICTORIAN BDM which helped me to realise that, according to page 70 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, John Calvin Griffith married Mary and sired 11 children AFTER HIS DEATH IN 1872!
EventMarriage Event registration number1672 Registration year1873
Personal information
Family nameGRIFFITH Given namesJohn C SexMale Spouse's family nameDOWLING Spouse's given namesMary
JOHN CALVIN GRIFFITH DIED IN 1927!
EventDeath Event registration number14132 Registration year1927
Personal information
Family nameGRIFFITH Given namesJohn Calvin SexMale Father's nameGRIFFITH Abraham Mother's nameRebecca (Hurley) Place of birth Place of deathDROMANA Age80
i COULDN'T FIND MARY GRIFFITH'S DEATH RECORD BUT THEN I REMEMBERED THE USUAL INCORRECT SPELLING OF THE SURNAME.
EventDeath Event registration number15605 Registration year1940
Personal information
Family nameGRIFFITHS Given namesMary SexUnknown Father's nameDowling Thomas Mother's nameMary* (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathDromana Age87
(*Mary's mother's full maiden name may have been Mary Christine DAVIS.)
This was Mary's brother, not her father.
EventDeath Event registration number7427 Registration year1889
Personal information
Family nameDOWLING Given namesThos SexMale Father's nameThos Mother's nameCath (David*) Place of birth Place of deathFlinders-balnarri Age28
(*Obviously a typo for Davis, the D and S keys being adjacent on keyboards.)
Mary's father, Thomas, died on 11/04/1892, aged 77 and is buried in the Flinders cemetery with many other family members.
http://www.australiancemeteries.com.au/…/morni…/flinders.htm
John and Mary Griffith were buried at Dromana but as the gravestone has no details there are none on the ozgen list.
There are photos of John and Mary on page 71 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.
DEATH RECORDS OF MARY'S PARENTS.
EventDeath Event registration number6312 Registration year1892
Personal information
Family nameDOWLING Given namesThos SexMale Father's nameThos Mother's nameMary (Bolger) Place of birth Place of deathFlinders Age77
EventDeath Event registration number8956 Registration year1911
Personal information
Family nameDOWLING Given namesCath SexUnknown Father's nameDavis Thos Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathFlinders Age86
On 6-2-1884, Thomas Dowling was granted crown allotment 3, section A, parish of Flinders, consisting of 109 acres 2 roods 39 perches bounded by the top of Melway 255 G1, Main Creek, a closed road running south west from the creek in the middle of J2 to the middle of H3, and Tucks Rd. He'd selected this land in about 1860.
MARY O'BRIEN, NEE BOURKE, BORN GLENGYLE, KEILOR 1847, DIED DIGGERS REST 1937 (VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.)
O'BRIEN.--At her residence. Digger's Rest, Mary, daughter of the late Michael and Margaret Bourke, beloved sister of Kate (Mrs. Kane), James, Margaret (Mrs. Leyden*), Bridget (Mrs Connell), Michael and John (all deceased), born at Glengyle, Keilor*, 17th October, 1847. R.I.P. (P.15, The Age, 5-6-1937.)
*This location seems to be a correction of a mistake made on 31-5-1937 in The Age and The Argus. There was no "Glengyle" in Kilmore, the only result for "Glengyle,Kilmore" was in those two 31-5-1937 notices.
Family Notices
Family Notices - The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954)Monday 31 May 1937 - Page 1
... Glengyle, Kilmore, 17th October, 1847. R.I.P. O'BRIEN. — On the29th May, at her residence. Diggers' Rest ... 841 words
Text corrected by 4 Voluntroves
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Family Notices - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957)Monday 31 May 1937 - Page 1
... ), Bridget (Mrs Connell), Michael and John (all dcccascd) born at Glengyle Kilmore 17th October 1847 -R I P ... 5237 words
* HO210 Former Leyden Building 670 Sunbury Road, Bulla (https://hdp-au-prod-app-hcc-participate-files.s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/6916/9076/3114/4bc4464ab6b231a69b401bca3231beff_C266_Factsheet_and_list_of_affected_places.pdf )
MARY'S BIRTH RECORD (VICTORIAN BDM ONLINE)
BOURKE Mary Ann Birth
mother: Margaret nee MURPHY father:BOURKE Michael
place of birth:GLANGILE*, 1847, 41840/1847
The VicBDM typists make many transcription errors, but I believe the error in this case was the registrar doing his best to turn what he had heard (the property's name) into written form.
Glengyle was section 1, parish of Tullamarine. Enter this (in bold type) into your search bar to access the parish map.
https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-232027662/view
Section 1 was one of only a few portions of the parish alienated before the 1843 depression. Richard Hanmer Bunbury, a retired Naval man, may have been a friend of the next owner and soon transferred the title to him.
MORE ABOUT GLENGYLE LATER.
Young Emperor was shown at the Cirencester
Agricultural Meeting in 1842, and then gained
the prize as the best two-year-old Cart Stallion,
and now travel in place of his sire, imported to
this Colony.
This celebrated Cart Horse will stand this
season at the low price of Three Guineas each
Mare, at A. Campbell's, Esq., near Keilor, and
at the station of J. Bathe, Eq., Western Port.
Mares will be received at Kirk's Bazaar every
Friday, and forwarded to the Horse free of ex-
pense. (P.3, Port Phillip Gazette,11-9-1844.)
THE CAMPBELLFIELD SHINTY MATCH. (3-7-1850) link-https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4770349
The sports finished, the company adjourned to Messrs Barber and Lowe's mill, which the proprietors had kindly placed at the disposal of the Stewards, where an ample cold collation, provided by Mr. Yewers. the confectioner in Elizabeth street, awaited their attention, and was done ample justice to under the admirable presidency of Colin Campbell, Esq. of Glengyle.
Others owning portions of the Glengyle Estate in the early 1850's were A. and J. Guthrie and Thomas Bertram (after whom Bertram's ford,near the east end of Browns Rd and the present Arundel Bridge) was named.
It seems that at the time of Mary's birth, her parents were working for the Campbell family.
DIGGERS REST.
This area acquired its name because of Caroline Chisholm. As many women had no choice but to follow their husband to the diggings. Caoline had shelters built near the site of the Essendon railway bridge, just over the Maribyrnong in Keilor Village
(Melway 14 K7), and- in the north east half of Melway354 H2) etc. to provide them with a modicum of privacy and comfort.
I thought that Mary's father would have been the Michael Bourke who built the Manchester Hotel at The Gap but the report of this man's Golden Wedding https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/70070479 states that he did not arrive until 12-9-1853.)
He probably had nothing to do with Mary's move to Diggers Rest.
However, many years ago I read an article about an O'Brien family (linked with John Daly) who settled near the site of the Sunbury Pops Festival and I will endeavour to find it.
From the DILLON entry in my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF BULLA journal.
"The deceased's hat was found about five chains down the stream and next morning the carcase of the horse, was washed to O'Brien's ford,...."
The O'Briens had two properties of which I'm aware, Craigllachie and Glencoe. Craigllachie was east of Loemans Rd and fronted Deep Creek just north of the ford connecting with Mansfields Rd in Tullamarine. They had inherited their "Glencoe" from John Daly,the grantee; it was just east of the Page "Glencoe" pre-emptive right and O'Brien's Ford was most likely the Batey/Page ford whose location was within the Holden Flora and Fauna Reserve in Melway 352 J2.
Amongst those who have worked very hard and lent great assistance in the search were: Messrs, J. Duncan, C.M'Kenzie, J. White, M. O'Brien, T.O'Brien, J. Cahill, C. Honan, J. Phelan, M. O'Brien, J. Cahill jun., M. Leyden, J. Scannell, Fannings (2), Reddan (2),Mi'Leod, J. Murphy, Fuller, G. Gillon,M. Allen, C. Taylor, Bell (2),Byrne, Forbes (2).
UNDER TULLAMARINE ISLAND FARMS.
12 A Craigllachie (pronounced craig el ockie) or Deep Valley.
My Tullamarine Parish map gives the names of grantees and the dates on which grants were issued. Surprisingly, I could find no mention of E.F.N.Clarke in the first series index. I had wondered about the year of issue, 36, but concluded that he was related to W.J.T.Clarke and had claimed pre-emptive right on land he had occupied in 1836. While I was talking with Henry Bedford about his time growing up on Fleetbank, I asked about occupancy of Craigllachie and his reply (that the Clarkes had been there for as long as he could remember) started me thinking. Was 36 actually 1936? I dug out a Tullamarine parish map given to me by Gary Vines of the Living Museum of the West. Apart from being handwritten rather than typed and not giving dates, it seemed at a glance identical to mine. I accepted Garys kind offer because it showed the locations of four squatters buildings: Sherrits hut on Glenloeman, and the stations of Hunter on Arundel, Downie on Glendewar and Hall on Stewarton. It said the grantee of 12 A was John Daly. The spelling (as in the case of John Pascoe Fawker for section 7) was wrong but the information was correct.
*In her Broadmeadows History Kit, S.OCallaghan states on page 17 that Arrott (Arnott?) and Daly were bakers in Broadmeadows Township. This was probably the same J.Daly (sic?) who was granted 5H of the parish of Yuroke, of 366 acres. Today 5H in Meadow Heights and Coolaroo is indicated by the southern Norval Ave corner (south west cnr), a point 180 metres west of the weighbridge in Maffra St (south east cnr) and the east-west parts of Lightwood Cres. and Paringa Blvd (north). Presuming that the baker had bought both grants, it is reasonable to suppose that both were used to grow wheat.
That grown in Yuroke would have been milled on the site of the Pipeworks Market (Melway 7, J/10), and that grown on Craigllachie would have been sent to the mill on Lochton (Mel.111, D/4) The latter mill was opened in 1856 by Lochtons grantee, Capt. William Morrison Hunter. It was taken over in the same year by Bell Bros. with Straughans and D.R.Bain as millers. The mill was later owned by W.B.Gadd, who closed it in 1861. (Bulla Bulla P.50). That Craigllachie might be suitable for wheat growing is indicated by the fact that Michael Loeman cultivated a good deal of Glenloeman from 1850 until 1863. (Gadds mill closed 1861!)
John Daleys daughter, Mary, married Michael O'Brien. This may have been the Michael OBrien who was leasing a house in the Strathmore area from G.Urquhart in 1863. (Broadmeadows rates.)
On 16-3-1869, John Daley conveyed Craigllachie to Michael OBrien and his wife Mary:
In consideration of the natural love and affection which the said John Daley hath for his daughter, the said Mary OBrien, and for the said Michael OBrien and for divers other consideration thereunto moving.
(* See Heritage study re the Glencoe Homestead and the Diggers Rest Primary School newsletter article about John Daly, the O'Briens and the homestead in comments. As they lived on Glencoe, they leased Craigllachie to the Heagneys.)
PROBABLY ABOUT A HUNDRED COMMENTS CONTAINING INFORMATION THAT WOULD NOT SUBMIT IN THE JOURNAL. JOHN DALEY'S SON IN LAW COULD BE YET ANOTHER RED HERRING. BACK WITHIN A YEAR!
by itellya on 2013-11-12 07:35:41 (NEAR END)
History and Description:
The disused homestead stands on allotment A of Section 16 in the Parish of Holden.
This section and the surrounding area was surveyed and sold by the Crown in the early 1850s but the use and occupation of this land dates back to the earliest days of settlement in thedistrict. The land in the area was first settled on and grazed by the Page brothers who were born in Kent, England. They are said to have come to the area in early 1836, first setting down on the Deep Creek near Bulla where the Brodie brothers later set up their homestead (allotment A of Section 20 in the Parish of Bulla1), and then moving further west to settle on the south side of
Jackson's Creek. Their run at its greatest contained about 7000 acres on which they kept some7000 sheep and several horses. 2
They called the run Glencoe, which Isaac Batey (a resident in the district from 1846) described as 'an appellation that one would imagine Englishmen would not adopt'. According to an anecdote written up by Batey, Edward Page was in town drinking with fellow squatters, one of whom Batey said was 'doubtless a Scottish man'. Apparently this man asked Page the name of his run and upon receiving the reply that it had no name as yet he responded with the challenge ''Call it Glencoe and I'll stand a bottle of rum'.' According to Batey 'this was agreed to
and the station duly christened'.3
In May 1852, the Page brothers and other early settlers such as George Evans and
Martin Batey received only a months notice to take up their homestead blocks before the wealthy landowner William John Turner Clarke applied to have them put up for sale. He subsequently succeeded in purchasing much of their former leasehold pastoral land.4 The Pages' run was surveyed into sections in the Parish of Holden and sold by the Crown from 1852 onwards. The Page brothers bought their homestead block under pre-emptive right in 1855.5
This land was the 640 acres of Section 15 in the Parish of Holden, which is directly west of the location of the present Glencoe homestead. Batey described the Pages' homestead, a wattle anddaub structure, as located some 600 yards back from a cliffy edge, and slightly over a mile dueeast from Diggers Rest, which places it within this section.6
In June 1854, W.J.T. Clarke bought the 216 acres of allotment A in Section 16 for someL874. At the same time a John Daley bought the adjacent 147 acres of allotment B for someL676. John Daley was born in Co. Galway, Ireland and had arrived in the Colony in the early1840s. He married a Catherine Brehemy in Melbourne, and they had three children - Jane,Michael and Mary. In June 1857, Clarke sold his allotment to a William Speary, who in turn sold it to John Daley and his wife in March 1862. Some years earlier, in September 1856, Daley had also acquired part of allotment C; he paid the owner, Angus Ross, ?95 for an unknown number of acres (possibly about 18-20 at the approximate going rate of over ?4 per --------
VERY LONG WINDED, BUT IT HAS PROVEN THAT MICHAEL BOURKE OF THE MANCHESTER HOTEL AT THE GAP WAS NOT THE FATHER OF MARY O'BRIEN, NEE BOURKE (1847-1937) AND THAT SHE WAS NOT THE MARY WHO MARRIED MICHAEL O'BRIEN OF GLENCOE IN DUNCANS LANE.
It would have been better to find Mary's marriage instead of trying to connect her story to dim memories.
BOURKE Mary Marriage OBRIEN, Martin, 1885, 2487/1885
O'BRIEN. - On the 29th May, at her residence, Diggers Rest, Mary, wife of the late Martin O'Brien mother of William, James, and Francis, in her 90th year. - R.I.P. (P.1, The Argus, 31-5-1937.)
O'BRIEN. - At her residence, Diggers Rest,Mary, daughter of the late Michael and Margaret Bourke, beloved sister of Kate (Mrs
Kane), James, Margaret (Mrs Leyden),Bridget (Mrs Connell), Michael and John (all deceased) born at Glengyle Kilmore* 17th October 1847 -R I P. (P.1, The Argus, 31-5-1937.)
*There was no "Glengyle" in Kilmore. See start of journal. It was corrected to Keilor in The Age on 5-6-1937.
Mary's husband Martin had some bad luck at Diggers Rest, such as anthrax and a stone chip lodging in his eye.
UNABLE TO FIND BIRTH RECORDS FOR THEIR THREE SONS, WILLIAM, JAMES AND FRANCIS AND HAVING NO IDEA WHEN MARTIN DIED (SEE FIRST 31-5-1937 DEATH NOTICE JUST ABOVE) I DID A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR-
MARTIN O'BRIEN, DIGGERS REST MARRIED MARY BOURKE IN 1885, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA
and on https://www.ancestry.com.au/search/collections/1093/?name=_Bourke
and found two photos, one a gravestone at Sunbury Cemetery and the other of a house with the accompanying text for each as below.
Headstone Michael Bourke, Margaret nee Murphy (Headstone) Cemetary: Sunbury Location: Sunbury cemetery
In loving memory of Michael Bourke late of Diggers Rest who died 16 Oct 1890 aged 79. Also his beloved wife Margaret Bo...
Mary Bourke (born 1847)
To save you going to the top of the journal, here's Mary's birth record again.
MARY'S BIRTH RECORD (VICTORIAN BDM ONLINE)
BOURKE Mary Ann Birth
mother: Margaret nee MURPHY father:BOURKE Michael
place of birth:GLANGILE*, 1847, 41840/1847
Martin & Mary Obrien Farmhouse (SiteBuildingPlace) Date: 1919 Location: Diggers Rest, Victoria, Australia
They grew wheat and bred horses. Original photo B&W. Mary Bourke (born 1847)
WHEN DID MARY'S HUSBAND, MARTIN O'BRIEN, DIE?
ANSWER. 21-6-1919.
THE EVIDENCE DID NOT SUBMIT, AND AS ANOTHER ADDITION ALSO FAILED TO SUBMIT, I WILL PLAY IT SAFE AND PUBLISH THE DETAILS RE MARTIN O'BRIEN'S DEATH IN COMMENT 2 UNDER THE JOURNAL.
IS THERE A DEATH NOTICE OR RECORD FOR MARY'S FATHER?
BOURKE.—On 16th Oct., at his residence, Digger's Rest, Michael Bourke, farmer, aged 79. R.I.P.
(P.2, The Bacchus Marsh Express, 15-11-1890.)
THE Friends of the late Mr. MICHAEL BOURKE
are respectfully invited to follow his remains to
the place of interment, Sunbury Cemetery.
The funeral will leave his late residence, Diggers'
Rest, THIS DAY (Friday, 17th inst.), at 1 o'clock.
JOHN DALEY, Undertaker, Latrobe and Spring
streets, Melbourne. Telephone 827. (P.1, Argus, 17-10-1890.)
Mary's 2nd oldest sibling (Start of journal) was James.
It is with much regret that I announce the death of two old residents, viz., Mr. Michael Bourke, who for a long time represented the East Riding in the Shire of Melton. Deceased was father of Cr. James Bourke. of Coimadai. He was buried at Sunbury. A large assemblage followed the remains to the place of interment. Also Mrs Beattie, wife of Cr. H. Beattie, of Mt. Aitken,who died at her residence. Mt. Aitken, on Sunday.26th ult. (P.7, The Bacchus Marsh Express, 8-11-1890.)
BOURKE Michl Death
mother: Bridtnee MCMAHON father:Jas
place of death:Sunbury, 79, 1890, 17809/1890
MARY PETER (NEE BENT) AND HER BROTHER JOHN, DIED AT "CHANDOS", TULLAMARINE, VIC., AUST.
PETER.—On the 23rd inst., at her residence, Chandos, Broadmeadows, Mary, relict of the late John Peter,
formerly of Tubbo Station, New South Wales, aged 73 years. R.I.P. (p.1, Argus,25-9-1884.)
Funeral Notices.
The Friends of the late Mrs. MARY PETER are invited to follow her remains to the Spencer-street railway station (en route to Wanga Wagga Cemetery).
The funeral will leave her late residence Chandos,Broadmeadows, THIS DAY (Friday, the 20th inst),at half-past 11 o'clock.(P.1,Argus, 26-9-1884.)
Chandos was one of the street names that I suggested for the Alanbrae Estate,the subdivision of "Willowbank" north of Kenny St and the old Broadmeadows Township, now known as Westmeadows.
John Peter bought "Chandos" from the grantee of sections 6 and 15, parish of Tullamarine, John Carre Riddell, the transaction recorded in the memorial volume 170 folio 2. It was part of Riddell and Hamilton's Camieston Estate. It fronted the west side of today's Mickleham Rd from the midline of Londrew Ct. and Freight Rd.(where it adjoined the Junction Estate) north to the Moonee Ponds Creek. Its western boundaries were Derby St (where it adjoined the one acre blocks in Hamilton Terrace)and Wright St (west of which were blocks of about 6 acres that were consolidated into farms such as Wallis Wright's Sunnyside and Charles Nash's Fairview.)
I had always assumed that Bent St in Broadmeadows Township was named after Tommy Bent, politician, but perhaps it was named after Ann Peter's brother.
BENT - On the 10th inst, at the residence of his sister, Mrs. J. Peters, Broadmeadows, John Bent,aged 68 years, NSW papers please copy. (P.1, Argus, 21-2-1880.)
THE Friends of the late Mr. JOHN BENT, are respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, Keilor Cemetery. The funeral will move from the residence of Mrs.J Peters, Broadmeadows, THIS DAY, 21st inst., at 3 o'clock. (P.5, Argus, 21-2-1880.)
The children of Broadmeadows Township had a favourite swimming hole on Chandos that they called Peterson's Hole. Rate records revealed that nobody named Peterson occupied Chandos so the hole most likely got its name because Mary Peter's son swam there.
Consisting of 467 acres, Chandos was mainly in section 6. John Cock who was leasing Gladstone (formerly Stewarton and now the northern 777 acres of Gladstone Park) bought Chandos from the Peter Estate and divided it into three farms which became known as Wright's "Strathconan", Bill Lockhart's "Springburn" and Percy Judd's "Chandos Park" of 142, about 188 and 123 acres respectively, Judd's being in section 15.
N.B. IN ONE OF MY JOURNALS ABOUT BROADMEADOWS I HAVE INCLUDED AN ARTICLE (FROM A BIT OF LOCAL HISTORY OF A NORTHERN AREA, WITHIN VICTORIA IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY), THAT CREDITED THE PETER FAMILY WITH BEING PIONEERS THERE AND MENTIONED THEIR BROADMEADOWS AND N.S.W.CONNECTIONS.
MATTHEW FLINDERS' BIOGRAPHY, WRITTEN BY A CHILD, EDITH TAINTON OF ASHBY STATE SCHOOL, IN 1928. (GEELONG, VIC., AUST.)
Some historians tend to be a bit pompous in their writing but this young girl's story was a delight to read.
LIFE OF FLINDERS
It was found by chance in a Newberry search on trove and I hope that you enjoy it as much as I did.
Wikipedia is very good at pinpointing the locations of old Victorian place names.
Geelong West, Victoria - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geelong_West,_Victoria
Ashby was once a suburb of Geelong located in the area of Geelong West, west of Latrobe Terrace, between Aberdeen Street and Church Street. By 1850 this area had become known as Little Scotland, and Kildare. At this point, Ashby referred to the area between Autumn Street and Waratah Street. In 1875, the entire ...
HISTORY OF ASHBY PRIMARY SCHOOL
HOW OLD WAS EDITH TAINTON WHEN SHE WROTE HER PRIZE-WINNING ESSAY?
I found the answer quick smart. If Edith was still at State School she was most likely in Grade 8, the last grade,and an absolute certainty to gain her merit certificate. She would be about fourteen years old but to be on the safe side, I searched for her birth record between 1913 and 1915.
EventBirth Event registration number22384 Registration year1914
Personal information
Family nameTAINTON Given namesEdith Marianne SexUnknown Father's nameChas Albt Mother's nameUna Blanche (Thurrowgood) Place of birthGEELONG
A BIT OF EDUCATION HISTORY.
Little Athletics rewards every child for having a go and is mirrored today by almost automatic promotion from grade to grade at Primary Schools, on the basis that social and intellectual development is more likely if the child is with age peers. In the old days children had to earn their promotion from grade to grade with the result that there seem to be giants in old class photos. The greatest aim of most pupils was to gain the Merit Certificate before leaving school at 14 to work in a reasonably interesting job guaranteed by it. Those who missed out, still in grade 6 when they turned 14, became factory fodder. However some sympathy was shown in some decisions about awarding the certificate, and by the greatest coincidence this example features another Ashby State School pupil.
MERIT CERTIFICATE.
Another pupil of the Ashby State School, Fred Cowling, in addition to the nine who received their certificates on Monday last, has been successful in obtaining his card: - The youth, who is about to leave school had missed the certificate by half a- mark, but on fresh perusal of the examination papers these showed general proficiency; and when the attention of the inspector (Mr. A. B. Rowe) was drawn to the fact he immediately recognised the justice of the claim, and made the award. (P.3, Geelong Advertiser, 22-9-1911.)
By about 1911, several High Schools started as Higher Elementary Schools so that those who had gained their Merit could continue their education and thus the first intake was in form 3. Later grades 7 and 8 in State Schools were replaced by forms 1 and 2 in schools central to regions and thus called Central Schools.
Successful students at Ashby State School such as Enid might have gone to a private school but Enid had another option.
GEELONG HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY
EXTRACT.
Our History
In the early 1900's schooling was compulsory for children 6 - 14 years at State Primary Schools. For those who couldn't afford private education, there was nowhere they could continue their education until they were 17 and could attend the Gordon Technical College. In 1909 community concern grew for this gap to be filled and this saw the establishment of a Continuation School to provide an academic education for trainee teachers and a general education for those wishing to go on to the Gordon.
On February 8 1910, 79 students together with eight teachers and an Acting Headmaster, began classes in a couple of disused rooms at the Gordon. John William Gray was appointed Headmaster in April with an annual salary of £345 ($690.00). Twelve months later, enrolments has increased to 150 and 12 rooms were being used at the Gordon. The school was renamed the Geelong High School and so became Geelong's first State Secondary School.
ABOUT EDITH.
Edith was only about seven years old when her mother died.
TAINTON. - On the 24th February, 1921, at private hospital, Geelong, Una Blanche,the dearly loved wife of Charles Albert Tainton, of 35 Clarence Street, Geelong West, and devoted mother of Stanley, Una and Edie, and loved sister of Minnie(Mrs. Nicholls), of Leopold, and Nellie(Mrs Cuddy) W.A. Aged 40 years.
(P.1, Geelong Advertiser, 25-2-1921.)
Una would have been born in about 1881. Her maiden name was Saunders but she may have been Mrs Thurrowgood when she married Charles in 1909*.
EventDeath Event registration number1787 Registration year1921
Personal information
Family nameTAINTON Given namesUna Blanche SexFemale Father's nameSAUNDERS James Mother's nameMary Ann (Harrison) Place of birth Place of deathGEELONG Age40
*EventMarriage Event registration number2868 Registration year1909
Personal information
Family nameTAINTON Given namesChas Albt SexUnknown Spouse's family nameTHURROWGOOD Spouse's given namesUna Blanche
Edith's father almost certainly died in 1928 leaving Edith an orphan. He drowned in Corio Bay. There was no death notice.Edith was only about 14.
EventDeath Event registration number14915 Registration year1928
Personal information
Family nameTAINTON Given namesCharles Albert SexMale Father's nameTAINTON Richard Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathGEELONG Age60
CORIO BAY DROWNING
He was a widower and lived with his two children
A POETIC BENT.SHIPS
Her crossword puzzle at age 17. CROSSWORD
This is just a sample of Edith's contributions to newspapers, her address written as 17 Preston St., Geelong West. The big question is who was looking after her. Did she have to leave school after her father's death?
No wonder I saw no mention of the academic success I'd expected to find. How sad!
MAURICE QUINLAN AND FARMS IN OAKLANDS RD, BULLA, VIC., AUST.
Refer to my earlier QUINLAN journal and the ones about AIRPORT WEST and ABERFELDIE.
WEDNESDAY, MAY 14
At Quarter past Two O Clock. At SCOTTS HOTEL MELBOURNE.
GREAT REALISING SALE of VALUABLE LANDHOLDINGS
In the Estate of the Late Mr Maurice Quinlan
Under Instructions from the NATIONAL TRUSTEES, EXECUTORS and AGENCY COY of AUSTRALASIA LTD
A E GIBSON and Co will submit "WARLABY", "'ST JOHNS HILL", " AIREY'S", "WILDWOOD", DONNYBROOK ", "NORTH
ESSENDON" and "ABERFELDIE ".
"WARLABY" is a noble property, consisting of about 648 ACRES having an elegant W B villa, containing 8 lofty rooms thereon with beautiful return verandah surrounded by handsome jarrah picket fence, has also extensive bluestone cattle sheds, stabling, loose boxes, milking sheds, men's quarters, and piggeries.It is situated at Oaklands Junction, in the centre of a flourishing farming district, and renowned for hunting and sport. The country is of volcanic nature, sweet and sound for stock of all descriptions, and is about 7 miles west of Craigieburn railway station and 10 from Essendon by fine metalled road right to the gate.
ST JOHN' S HILL adjoining Warlaby" and Mr Dennis Brannigan's estate, contains about 235 ACRES mostly volcanic land having extensive frontage to the Deep Creek with rich flats and banks thereon admirably adapted for dairying and mixed farming. There is a W.B. house and extensive outbuildings on the property, but in a state of disrepair.
AIREY'S BLOCK, adjacent to the above, is situated on the Wildwood road, about 5 miles from Sunbury, and contains about 18O ACRES of sound grazing and cultivation land having extensive frontage to Deep Creek, with rich irrigable flat thereon, equal to anything in the county of Bourke. This property is fenced and subdivided. Subject to lease expiring 31st March, 1921.
DONNYBROOK. contains 780? ACRES of sound volcanic country, situated on the main Sydney road, about l8 miles from Melbourne, and within 1 mile of the Donnybrook railway station. It is well fenced and permanently watered by the Merri Creek, which forms its eastern boundary. It adjoins the famous Hayesmount Estate of Mr W.Hayes. There is a small W.B. cottage and very fine stockyards erected on the property.
NORTH ESSENDON comprises about 26 ACRES, situated on the main Bulla road, about 1 1/4 miles from the Keilor road electric tram terminus. This property is beautifully fenced, and bordered with live hedges and groups of flourishing handsome gums. Also, about 160 acres separated by a road. It is proposed to subdivide and submit this latter block into 10 allotments, in areas of from about 9 acres to 28 acres each, thus affording persons in quest of farmlets or accommodation paddocks near the city the opportunity of participatlng in the distribution.
"ABERFELDIE", Essendon, the residence of the late Mr Quinlan consisting of handsome bluestone dwelling, containing 9 rooms, bathroom, pantry,scullery, and large vestibule, bluestone stable (5 stalls, loose box, feed room, harness room), man's quarters, and sheds. Land 300ft frontage west side Aberfeldie street situated within ten minutes' walk of Essendon railway station, off Buckley street, and commanding a position that is entitled to be designated as superb.
It is almost superfluous to make further comment on this fine group of freeholds. The brief description given will suggest the importance and value of each property to be submitted. They represent the effort and judgment of one whose knowledge of lands in the county of Bourke was universally recognised.etc.
(P.3,Argus, 26-4-1919.)
The un-named road separating the 160 acres from the 26 acre triangle described as North Essendon was Treadwell Rd. Both of these properties were described in detail in my earlier QUINLAN journal.
"Donnybrook" probably included Donovans Rd north of which the Merri Creek is further from Sydney Rd and a 780 or 730 acre property could fit between the road and creek.
OAKLANDS RD FARMS.
I owe my knowledge of these farms to the late Bob Blackwell who drove me all around the district telling me about its history. If you google FANNING FAMILY HISTORY, click on MORE BULLA PARISH MAPS on the right hand side and go to the second map,you can join me on my tour of the area. Right click on VIEW to enlarge the map.
Section 1 was alienated in these small blocks,probably having been the town common or perhaps a timber reserve originally.Section 2 was William Pomeroy Greene's "Woodlands" on which his pre-fabricated house still proudly stands as the focus of Woodlands Historic Park (the Dundonald homestead on Gellibrand Hill and the Cumberland homestead not making the cut!) The east end of Somerton Rd linking with Bulla Rd was named after the family but somehow was rendered as Green, and is now just called Somerton Rd.Rawdon St in Bulla is named after his son.Greene St led to Hunter's "Lockton"(5A), north of which was Captain Airey's grant (5B). If my memory is correct David Patullo of "Craigbank" (across Emu Creek) owned Airey's for quite some time.
Section 4, east of Lochton and Airey's was granted to Ann Greene, W.P.Greene's widow. I think Walter Clark of Glenara bought it as part of the Clark Estate and I am unaware if it ever had a name. Across Oaklands Rd is section 3, granted to Bulla's pioneer, Tulip Wright.This was subdivided quite early with the Daniel (of "Narbonne") and Carroll families being early settlers. James Musgrove, a famed implements maker, settled in its south west corner.
Section 8 and 7B were granted to Peter Young who is mentioned quite extensively in one of my journals,and called his property "Nairn". Section 9 was called "Dunalister" by Walter Clark when he purchased it. The name was possibly associated with Walter's son,Alister,breeder of the black rose and Chairman of the Moonee Valley Racing Club until his death. Bob Blackwell later managed the property until it was sold and when the new owner decided to call it Balbethan, Bob used the name for his farm at Elmore.
Cameron's section 11 became Robert McDougall's "Warlaby" from which the Oaklands Hunt Club's first event (a paper trail laid out by Farquhar McRae) commenced in 1888. Section 10 was "Oaklands" which gave the road its name. I.W.Symonds' "Bulla Bulla" states that the Brannigans owned St John's Hill(17A) and they certainly did as Maurice Crotty (later of Broomfield on the HONDA corner of Sharps Rd and (now) Keilor Park Drive) worked for the horse-mad Brannigans before moving to the "Springs" at Tullamarine. St John Rd(off Wildwood Rd) was a short cut to the property. The Brannigans had obviously moved to 17B by the time of the above sale.
Section 18 was Harpsdale, Dyson Holland's closer settlement farm (18A)being called "Dunoon" if I remember correctly what Jack Simmie told me over 20 years ago. Jack showed me the Brodie crest set into the floor tiles near the entry of the Harpdale homestead.
McCOMBE ST, ROSEBUD DISRESPECTS PIONEERS OF FRANKSTON, VIC., AUST.
In 1912-13, a Seaford farmer was the last to occupy the 57 acre Hindhope Estate at Rosebud, bounded by First Avenue, Pt Nepean Rd and Boneo Rd and extending south to Hindhope Villa (50 First Avenue) and all Hope St house blocks. When section A was subdivided shortly afterwards the developer (Thomas)obviously wanted to honour John McComb*, but unfortunately the surveyor called the first street on the estate McCombe St.
*The Shire of Flinders rates until 1919-20 are available on microfiche in the local history room at the Rosebud Library. Gregory Rigg and his wife Eleanor had 29 acres each in 1911-12,having purchased one block from the Randalls (who gave Hindhope its name)some years earlier and the other later from an unestablished vendor. Names of ratepayers were listed alphabetically and there was no Rigg entry in 1912-13. A search of every entry in the West Riding established that John McComb, Carrum, (assessment number 1152)who was assessed on part crown allotment 14, Wannaeue (nett annual value 25 pounds)was occupying Hindhope. From memory,I'm sure Ramsay and Nora Couper still had "The Thicket", the other 54 acres of crown allotment 14 between the present Hope St houses and Raper's Lane (Eastbourne Rd.) Also, newspaper articles make it clear that the Riggs owned Hindhope and I have titles documents recording change of ownership of Hindhope from the Riggs to Arthur A.Thomas of 19 Queen St Melbourne.In 1913-14 John McComb's name had been entered (and that's probably where I got the description of "Seaford farmer") in its appropriate place under M, but it was crossed out and replaced by that of Thomas. The above makes it clear that John McComb leased Hindhope from the Riggs for a year. It is possible that the lease was cancelled by agreement between the Riggs and John McComb and that it had been a condition of the sale to Thomas that the first street was to be named in honour of John and his pioneering family. The Riggs and McCombs could well have been friends. Arthur A.Thomas probably didn't know John McComb, otherwise he might have detected the incorrect E at the end of the street name on the subdivision plan for Block A. Many street names honour longtime owners of land in the area but there would be few that recall people who LEASED the land FOR A SINGLE YEAR. Therefore the people who decided the name (probably the Riggs)must have had a special reason. Was it to honour a family which was among the earliest pioneers of the Mornington Peninsula? What would even a young child make of the logic of a statement such as: McCOMBE ST IN ROSEBUD IS NAMED AFTER JOHN McCOMB, A DECENDANT OF A PIONEERING FAMILY OF FRANKSTON. Perhaps we could have Wedgee,Daveye and Wellse streets too, to honour other Frankston pioneers! The big hill south of Frankston could be renamed Olivere's Hill to continue the joke!
Lovers of historical accuracy, especially Frankston residents who are proud of their town's history, should contact the Mornington Peninsula Shire in great numbers to demand that the spelling of this street name be corrected. Read about this pioneering family. There are several photos.
N.B. South Melbourne was known as Canvas Town,the Governor having had the area surveyed for a tent city to cope with the incredible influx of new chums who had been lured by the prospect of striking it rich at the diggings; permanent dwellings were fully occupied despite outrageous rents. Emerald Hill was South Melbourne's second name.
Grace McComb Was Frankston's Florence Nightingale
Tribute to Oldest Family of District Pioneers
An inscription on the stone wall of the main entrance to the Frankston Cemetery reads: "This entrance was erected in August, 1926, by grateful friends, to the Memory of the late Mrs. Grace McComb for her goodness," while on a grave just inside the entrance appears the words: "Erected to the Memory of Thomas and Grace McComb, Pioneers of Frankston, 1852."
Only a period of a few months separated the arrival of the first settler in Frankston, Mr. James Davey (Oliver's Hill), and the McComb family, whose first home was a tent on the beach, near the Fernery, held under a Miner's Right, at payment of ?10 per year to the Crown. The noble deeds of Mrs. Grace McComb, as maternity nurse, and only "doctor" for 40 years in Frankston district, establish the everlasting glory of her name as the greatest woman in all Frankston's history
Frankston's Florence Nightingale.
"Lives of Great Men."
Her husband, Thomas, and all members of the pioneer McComb family, have likewise left their mark of fame on the scroll of district history, progress, and achievement, to be admired by a grateful public and generations
to come.
An Adventurous Scotswoman.
Far back in 1833, a young Mate on a windjammer, Thomas McComb, sailed in his ship to Tasmania from Greenoch (Scotland). Thomas liked Tasmania so much that he did not return to Scotland with his ship, but transferred to a Government boat at Port Arthur. Here he married his wife, Grace, a Tasmanian girl, on August 20, 1844.
At the outbreak of the gold rush at Forest Hill (Castlemaine), Thomas McComb came to the mainland to prospect for gold, but finding it too expensive, he returned to Tasmania, and came back, with his wife and family, in 1851, to Melbourne, where their fourth child was born.
MR. HARRY McCOMB (photo.)
Dear Rents Then, Too.
Evidently rents were dear, long before the present 1949 era, as the McComb family paid ?1 per week for one room in Bourke Street, Melbourne, in 1851. Ejected from the room by a "tough" landlord, they were forced to pitch a tent on the banks of the Yarra. Thomas McComb got a job in charge of a lighter on the River Yarra, and the family moved to Emerald Hill (now South Melbourne). When Grace McComb developed "Colonial fever" a doctor advised residence at the seaside, her husband bought in with a company of fishermen, and came to live at Frankston, in a tent near the Fernery, by permission of Mr. Wedge, who rented the ground from the Crown.
Three Great Veterans.
For the wonderful story written here, "The Standard" is grateful to the three surviving members of the McComb family (there were originally 11 children). They are Mr. Harry McComb, 87 years, and Miss Agnes McComb, 84 (both of 26 NolanStreet, and Mrs. Martha Grace Pitchford, 82 (William Street).Despite their great ages, all are hale and hearty veterans, who have worthily upheld the tradition, of their famous parents. And so we continue their fascinating story:
Nursed Frankston's First Baby.
Only the day after the arrival of the McCombs in Frankston, a baby arrived to the Davey family,and Mr. Davey made an urgent call on Mrs. Grace McComb, who safely delivered the "new citizen" to Frankston. The nurse had a
hurried walk up the steep and rough Oliver's Hill of those days,(then known as "Old man Davey's Hill"-itellya)
but she was to be richly rewarded, for the strenuous exertions of the night journey to the top cured the "Colonial fever." The first McComb baby born in Frankston was Helen (deceased). Frankston in those early days
was a great place for visitors, who used to journey up from the Heads on foot, or per horseback, and some by boat. Mrs.McComb had a busy time serving them with meals.
First Land Sale.
The first Frankston land sale was a wonderful affair, with a big crowd. Many of them had walked all the way to Melbourne where the sales were held. Thomas McComb found the land too dear at the sale,but later bought five acres in William Street, on which he built his home.
Grand Fishing Tradition.
Fishing and wood-cutting comprised the only employment in Frankston in those early days, and the fishing industry, pioneered by Thomas, has continued down the ages to the present day in the McComb family, with
popular "Old Ted" McComb (grandson of Thomas McComb Senr., and son of Thomas McComb Junr.) and his sons ably
carrying on the great sea tradition of Frankston. In his retiring years, Thomas McComb, who died in 1889, at the age of 81, performed the duty of lighting the lamp on the Frankston Pier. Grace McComb died in 1915, at
the grand old age of 88, and with the noble record of Australian womanhood referred to above.
Only Two Shops.
For many years there was not a formed road or a fence in Frankston district, only sand tracks. For a very long time, there were only two shops in Frankston -Yockins in Davey Street, and Patterson's in High Street. Mr. James Davey had the first hotel - the old "Bay View" (now the Grand).
The First School.
The first school was a Common School, at the rear of the present St. Paul's Church of England. Carrying a baby in her arms, Mrs Grace McComb trudged round the sand tracks till she obtained the 20 signatures required for the first State School, on its present site. The three surviving McCombs were amongst the first children at the first school. The first teacher was a former tutor employed by the late Mr. Frank Stevens (Oliver's Hill), now
Grimwade's property.
Blacks' Camp at Mechanics'.
Tribes of blacks came to Frankston whenever the eels came down the Kananook Creek. They camped in mia mias, under a big honeysuckle tree, on the ridge in front of the Mechanics' Institute, and always had a large
pack of dogs. One son, the late Jim McComb, was one of the founders of the Mechanics' Institute in Frankston, when "penny entertainments". were a feature of its early revenue activities. Jim was later Shire Engineer at Lilydale. Brother Joe was a great student of politics, and a keen member of the Taxpayers' Association, with Mr. Charles Gray. John had a successful career on the railways, retiring as a roadmaster. His death occurred
at 84 years.
Each of the three surviving veterans were loath to speak about their own achievements, but from here and there we pieced together a series of wonderful facts.
Founder of Housewives' and Baby Welfare.
Miss Agnes McComb, whose house and effects were totally destroyed by fire two years ago, was treasurer of the Housewives' Association (which she founded) for over 20 years, and retired from the position only last year.
Miss McComb was also the prime mover for a Baby Health Centre in Frankston, and went round, as first secretary, for 12 months, till the Centre was established.
Her sister, Mrs. Pitchford, is known as a great Red Cross worker. All three, like the McCombs before them, and other relatives, are keen members and workers for the local Methodist Church, and have always helped to their utmost in all movements for the benefit of the district, and its community.
Where Were "Those Good Old Days?"
Mr. Harry McComb told "The Standard" representative, wistfully, that he wished the present time had been his hey-day, as in his time men never got very much, either in work or wages. He spent 16 years as Shire foreman, but prior to that had to leave the town in search of work.
A Fine Cricketer.
In his day, Harry McComb was a noted cricketer; cricket being always his hobby. He played for many years with the Frankston team, since its inception (from
approximately 80 years ago), when the present Cranbourne (Cranbourne Rd? Possibly Samuel Sherlock Reserve,where the new Peninsula Aquatic Centre now stands-itellya) Oval was cleared. His best year was at the age of 19, when he won the batting average trophy (a bat given by Mr. Lawrence, a MR. TED McCOMB. (photo)Mordialloc banker) with an average of 54 runs for five matches (prior to leaving the district). His brother Joe, with an average of 51 for seven matches, won the trophy given the same year by the Fishing Company. Harry was an opening batsman, for Frankston, with the late famous Jack Sadlier (first bank manager).
Harry generally tossed with Sadlier as to who would go in first. Harry was also a good left-hand bowler.
Harry McComb played later with the Contemplar Lodge team, Prahran, for three years. On the wall of the McComb home is a large framed group of cricketers, with Harry's photo in the centre. The inscription reads: "Victorian
Lodge Cricket Club, 1889. presented to H. McComb, (Captain) as a token of esteem for past services rendered.
Best Footballer and Cricketer.
Asked for his opinion of the best footballer and cricketer in Frankston's history, Mr. Harry McComb declared enthusiastically and unhesitatingly for "Joker" Cameron (football), and Ben Baxter (cricket).
A Symbol.
The tides will wash away many things from Frankston beaches for generations to come, but the great honored name of McComb is indelibly written in our sands for all time, and as a symbol for all who will follow them as
citizens of Frankston. (P.43, Frankston Standard, 5-10-1949.)
Let's hope that one day the Rosebud street named after this pioneering family will bear the correct name!