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This is another journal based on William Vale's letter of 1855.

As it is fairly long,in order to help family historians to quickly locate the surname they seek, I have produced an index. Names mentioned within an entry are shown in brackets after the subject of the entry.
1.SETTLERS (with approximate locations.) 2. RUNS. 3. EARLY ROADS AND CANADIANS. 4. EARLY GRANTEES (with specific locations-Davey, Wooley, Isaacs, Vale, Craig and O'Grady, Stenniken, Smith, Lintott, Fulton,Robertson, Yewers, Cobb, George Main,Sykes, Yuille.) 5. McMAHON,CARR AND LIARDET. 6. BAXTER.
7. WEDGE. 8. DAVEY. 9. HUNTER (BUTCHART.) 10.YUILLE. 11. BALCOMBE (Lintott,Cobb,Hann,Downward.)
12.HEARN (Clarke, Boadle, Salmon,Evans, Hann.) 13. RUDDELL (Wilson and many other occupiers of Tuerong.)
14 (and comment 13.)DOREY. 15. JOSEPH HARRIS. 16.J.T.SMITH (Slaney,Mrs Firth's death at the Moorooduc Railway Crossing,reported all over Australia.) 17. Victorian Freehold Land Society. 18. LINTOTT. 19. YEWERS (Grover.) 20. COBB. 21. DAVID KELLY'S MEMORIES OF FRANKSTON.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Thursday 27 December 1855 p 7 Article
... a Bri- tish colony,-that is, according to Chateau- briand, a public house, has made its u|)i>ear ... Mcmahon, Liardet and Carr . The Bay frontage of Mount Eliza forms the pre-emptive right ... 1098 words

I am only going to include the portions of the letter that discuss early landholders;the purpose being to give the locations of their properties and any other details that happen to pop up.

But the other day, and the whole of the distict was divided into squatters runs of which tho owners were Messrs. McMahon, Baxter, Wedge, Davy, Hunter, Yuille, Bal- combe, Hearn, Riddle, and others........

I think Mr Dory in the following is a mistake. The pre-emptive right along the coast of Davey Bay would have to be that of James Davey, as shown on the Frankston parish map. This is the passage from the letter.
The Bay frontage of Mount Eliza forms the pre-emptive right of Mr. Dory. Despite this, the information about the Doery family will be retained.

(After viewing Baxter's pre-emptive right from the top of the mountain.) Returning to the Bay and passing Mr Dory's homestead we come to an allotment belonging to Mr. J. T. Smith who owns another large allotment at the back. Soon we come to Mr. Lintots place who is determined to have a comfortable place, and being an old bushman from the Edward's River, he is likely to succeed. Close by are several small farmers, on allotments of the judicious selection of the Victorian Free- hold Land Society. Further on are the establishments of Mr. Ewers, and of the enterprising Mr Cobb, both of whom seem capable and determined to go ahead. Next we note Hunter's pre-emptive. We come on to a pretty hill, having some fine views on which the proprietor has expended a considerable sum in fencing and building a cottage.

The boundaries of each landholder's property will be given in detail later. I will repeat the above, inserting a melway reference for each property.

(After viewing Baxter's pre-emptive right from the top of the mountain 102 A10?.) Returning to the Bay and passing Mr Dory's homestead101 G8 we come to an allotment belonging to Mr. J. T. Smith 101 D11who owns another large allotment at the back 105 F6. Soon we come to Mr. Lintot's place 105 D1 who is determined to have a comfortable place, and being an old bushman from the Edward's River, he is likely to succeed. Close by are several small farmers, on allotments of the judicious selection of the Victorian Freehold Land Society?. Further on are the establishments of Mr. Ewers 105 A 8, and of the enterprising Mr Cobb 104J8, both of whom seem capable and determined to go ahead. Next we note Hunter's pre-emptive 104 H8. We come on to a pretty hill, having some fine views on which the proprietor has expended a considerable sum in fencing and building a cottage.(The gatehouse at Beleura? Butchardt?)


From north (Canadian Bay-Eramosa Rds)to south (Ellerina-Foxeys Rds)the Tuerong run was almost in the middle of
the parish of Moorooduc. It ran south to Merricks Beach between the Coolart Run and Henry Tuck's Manton's Creek Run. To the west were the Mt Martha Run (Hearn last occupant),Balcombe's Run established by Captain Reid and Davey's Kannanuke Run (in the parish of Frankston near Daveys Bay. The Wedge Run was the Frankston area. Steve 74 points out that the McMahons' run was about1000 acres called the Long Beach Run,perhaps near Carrum
and they later had land near Skye. East of Tuerong was the Run occupied by the Kings and adjoinig Tuerong to the north was Yuille's ill-defined Run. To the east of Yuille was Captain Ben Baxter's Carrup Carrup.



The northern boundary of the parish of Moorooduc at Mt Eliza was originally called Boundary Rd but it was renamed Canadian Bay Rd because of three Canadians who supplied firewood to the Liverpool which anchored a mile offshore at the end of the road.

Alfred Jones and J.Hodgins were two of the Canadians after whom Canadian Bay was named. The third was McCurley, who was also said to have settled in the area afterwards.
I have not come across the name of McCurley yet. I wonder if he was actually Edward McGurk, grantee of 203 acres in crown allotments 61 and 62 Moorooduc, on the west side of Jones Rd south of Bungower Rd.

The Frankston parish map which showed a road north of Daveys Bay Rd which zig-zagged to the coast from Pt Nepean Rd (Old Mornington Rd.) It was closed and replaced by the present road (gazetted 1886/781.) The present Nepean Highway through Mt Eliza was not gazetted until 1922. The route to Sorrento is shown on the Frankston parish map as being (from the south end of Old Mornington Rd)along Mt Eliza Way and Wooralla Drive. This would have led to Three Chain Road,the original name for Moorooduc Rd.


This has been inserted almost at the end of my work on this journal, with only the Yuille entry to complete. Much earlier, I had unsuccessfully tried to establish when William Robertson established his Tanti Sheep Station on the area south of Bungower Rd through which Robertson Drive runs. The following casts doubts on the statement that A.B.Yuille's Ballanrong lease was not cancelled until 1857; I presume his purchases were part of the Ballanrong Run.It could be that Yuille leased the pre-emptive until 1857. It might have been in 1857, (supposedly 1856 according to the female drover) that the Catholic (and later Presbyterian) Quinns started leasing their block on the north west corner of Moorooduc and Mornington-Tyabb Rds where the electricity substation now stands. The Quinns and the Roberts of Roberts Rd (who might have helped Joseph Porta make the colony's first bellows) were related by marriage.

For purchasers not already mentioned*, I will supply crown allotment numbers and locations.

County of Mornington.Frankston, near Mount Eliza, about thirty three miles from Melbourne.
Upset price, £1 per acre.

14. Three hundred and ninety-three acres, three roods, one perch, Wooley and Davey. £511 I8s, 9d. the lot.
This confirms my theory that Wooley and Davey were in some sort of partnership.

15. Three hundred and ninety acres, one rood, twenty-five perches. S. G. Isaacs. £400 I8s. 7d. the lot.*
Crown allotment 2, section 5,parish of Frankston.Fronts north side of Canadian Bay Rd from the highway to the eastern boundary of St Thomas Moore church and school. Humphrey Rd frontage roughly between Fulton and Mather Rd corners.

I6. Three hundred and ninety acres, one rood, twenty-five perches, W. M. K. Vale. £390 8s 2d. tho lot.
Between the grants of Isaacs and Craig & O'Grady. Frontages of 800 metres to the two roads.

17. Three hundred and ninety acres, one rood, twenty-five perches, Craig and O'Grady. £SMSa. 3d. the lot.*
Walter Craig and J.O'Grady.Crown allotment 4, section 5, parish of Frankston. Fronted Moorooduc Highway (1952 metres),with frontages to Canadian Bay Rd and Humphreys Rd of 800 metres. The Frankston and Hastings Shire (18 ac., 1926.), Rye's Ben Stenniken (10 ac. 1894) and the Quarry Picnic Area (23ac. 1933.)later occupied the Moorooduc Rd frontage.

Moorooduc, South of Frankston, from thirty four to forty miles from Melbourne.
Upset price, £1 per acre.

18. Two hundred and eighty-two acres fifteen perches, J. T. Smith. £400 0s. 11d. the lot.

19. Two hundred and ninety acres one rood two perches, E. Lintott, L580 10s. 6d. the lot.

20. Two hundred and fifty-one acres three perches , Fulton and Others. £753 1s. 3d. the lot.*
Thomas Fulton and others. Crown allotment 3, no section,parish of Moorooduc.Between Kunyung Rd and Gunyong Creek. (Melway 101 D5 to B2.)

21. Two hundred and seventy-nine acres one rood thirty three perches, A. Robertson. £14115 5s.9d. the lot.*
Crown allotment 4, no section,parish of Moorooduc. Between Gunyong Creek and Sunnyside Rd. The parish map has the grantee as William Robertson.

22. One hundred and fifty-nine acres three roods , nine perches, Jno. Yewers. £808 0s. 3d. tho lot.

23. One hundred and ninety-two acres three roods two perches, A, B. Cobb. £1010 18s 5d. the lot.

24. Three hundred and seventy acres two roods thirty-five perches, George Main. £689 4s. 0d. the lot.*
Crown Allotment 14, no section, parish of Moorooduc. Bounded by the Nepean Highway, Oakbank Rd, and Bungower Rd east to number 105.East boundary about 100 metres from Balcombe Creek. Main might have been a dummy bidder for the Yuilles,who were selling it a few years later.

25. Four hundred and ninety-six acres one rood sixteen perches, Peter Davis, £615 5s. 2d. the lot.*
C/A,15, no section, Moorooduc. North of Main's grant,between Oakbank and Cobb Rds and the north east corner at the bend in Wooralla Drive. This block was being sold soon after. The advertisement appears in this journal.

26. Two hundred and ten acres three roods,Fulton and others. £410 19s. 3d. the lot.*
Crown allotment 17, no section, parish of Moorooduc. Bounded by the Nepean Highway, Wooralla Drive and Tower Rd.

27. One hundred and twenty-two acres two roods sixteen perches, A. Sykes. £208 8s. 5d. the lot.*
That's got me tossed! John Sykes was granted crown allotment 21, section 24. This 60 acre block fronted Racecourse Rd between, roughly, the Clarica Close and Mondana Way corners, extending west to Harraps Creek (near Layton Crescent.)

28. Four hundred and thirty-seven acres one rood thirteen perches, J.T. Smith. £437 7s. 9d. the lot.

29. Three hundred and ten acres two roods twenty-five perches, A. B. Yuille £347 19s. 7d. the lot.*
The above must be crown allotment (20?) of 316 acres 1 rood and 15 perches, bounded by Wooralla Drive (Moorooduc), Tower Rd, a line indicated by Wynnstay Rd, Moon St and the south west boundary of Mount Eliza Regional Park and Moorooduc Rd to the commencing point.

30. Two hundred and ninety-four acres three roods fourteen perches, A. B. Yuille. £433 14s. 6d. the lot.
The above must be crown allotment 22 of 289 acres and 24 perches which was south of the previous grant and bounded by Balcombe Creek, Wooralla Drive, Moorooduc Rd and Bungower Rd (east to the creek.)

31. Two hundred and fifty-five acres, A.B. Yuille. £522 15s. the lot.
We finally agree on one! This was bounded by Nepean Highway,Tanti Creek/Watt Rd, Racecourse Rd and Mornington-Tyabb Rd. Some of this had already been subdivided and more was advertised by the end of 1858. Yuilles Rd is on this allotment and runs to Pentecost Rd which is named after another pioneering family.

32. Four hundred and seventy-five acres, W. Robertson. £712 10s. the lot.*
This was lot 13 of 475 acres, north of Watt Rd to Bungower Rd and stretching from the highway to Racecourse Rd.This was the Tanti Sheep Farm, which might have included c/a 4 on the north side of Sunnyside Rd. Some old farm buildings have been incorporated into the Currawong St Community Centre.

(P.5, Argus, 27-9-1854. Government Land Sales on the 26th.)

McMAHON.Parish of Frankston.
(Comment after my journal about the MT MCMAHON AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.)
by steve74 on 2013-04-01 01:15:17
James McMahon
Born 1806, Tyrone Ireland
Married Maria Kelly C1835 Ireland
Arrived Port Phillip 1841 "Strathfieldsaye"
1847 listed as "Herdsmen" at Collingwood, Victoria
Died New Zealand, 1872 (visiting a son on the New Zealand Goldfields"
C.1850 is said to have a "Run" that stretched from Mordialloc Creek to Kananook Creek.
Also said to have operated the Half Way House (Carrum Hotel)

It was no co-incidence that these three were mentioned in the same breath by William Vale because their grants (and possibly their Runs) adjoined at Melway 103 A2 in the parish of Frankston.
The land bounded by McMahon Rd,Skye Rd, McLelland Drive and Beach Rd-Cranbourne Rd was divided into four grants, all of 320 acres except for speculator, Byrne's crown allotment 2 at the corner of McMahon Rd and Beach Rd, which contained 258 acres. James McMahon's crown allotment 1 was at the northwest corner, his Skye Rd frontage being the first mile east from McMahon's Rd with John Carr's c/a 4 the next mile to McLelland Drive.Frederick Evelyn Liardet's c/a 3 "Ballam Park" was at the corner of Cranbourne Rd and McLelland Drive and the homestead still stands in 103 B4-5. The eastern boundary of each grant was 4000 links (half mile or 800 metres)but Byrne's western boundary was only 490 metres instead of 800 metres.

The surveyor seems to have given James McMahon's western boundary as 3900 links, and then, realising that the area would be only 312 acres, made the 3 look vaguely like a 4 and the 9 like a 0. Little did he think that I'd discover his cover-up!

This little trick was probably necessary because the three 320 acre grants were pre-emptive rights and needed to be 320 acres. If they were, Carr's and Liardet's Runs may have included land across McLelland Drive in the parish of Langwarrin. McMahon's would have been as described by Steve 74.

steve74, a descendant of Henry Cadby Wells has sent me some great material about the naming of Frankston and the Wells family. As I do not write history if it already exists (and is accessible), I will not repeat all of Steve's information; I await a journal from Steve about the extended Wells family.
C.Evelyn Liardet wrote a letter to the editor of The Argus refuting a claim in the Victorian Historical Magazine (March 1916, vol.5, No.1) by A.W.Greig that Frankston was named after Frank Liardet, and stating that his grandfather and uncle had told him that the town was named after Charles Franks. He enclosed a reply from the Lands and Survey Department regarding Frankston's name. Frankston was so-named almost a year before a Liardet application for land was made on 20-1-1855.Charles Wedge had a run adjoining Franks' near "Mt Cotteril"
but later had a run which included the site of Frankston and may have suggested that the village be named after his unfortunate neighbour of circa 1836.

An interesting feature of the parish of Frankston is that while the northern boundary seems to be Seaford Rd, with Lyndhurst to the north, the parish continues north on Long Island* to the point where Railway Pde meets the railway near Coonibar Ave (Melway 97 D11.) The northern boundary there could be the walking track from the highway to the creek just north of the Riviera Hotel. James McMahon was granted crown allotment 1 of 10 acres which ran south from the aforementioned point for 401 metres. There is no date but volume E folio 550 indicates very early 1850's. (*Between the beach and Kananook Creek.)

BAXTER,Ben, Parish of Frankston. Pre-emptive right,Carrup Carrup of 320 acres, bounded by Sages Rd (from the bend in Melway 106 G5 to the Frankston-Flinders Rd and in the south by the Baxter -Moorooduc locality boundary. The south east corner is just west of the proposed Coolart Rd Re-alignment in 107 A7. B.Baxter was granted crown allotment 25 bounded by Coolart and Frankston-Flinders Rd(107 B8),and M.Baxter crown allotment 19, south of the P.R. and across Coolart Rd from c/a 26 with the south east corner at the bottom of 107 A9. The Baxter family was related by marriage to the Sages, who worked for Ben initially and to surveyor, Robert Hoddle. Edward Sage was granted land west of Carrup Carrup and Hoddle to the east.

See Donald Charlwood's history in comment 5.


by steve74 on 2012-02-02 03:59:57

In the year 1850, John Wedge of Werribee came across to this side of the Bay and established a sheep station, his western boundary being Sweetwater Creek extending out beyond Carrum Downs. He built a sheep wash in the Kananook Creek, where he dipped sheep for tick and other vermin.
This dip was about five chains above Fiocchi Avenue which was known in the old days as the Sheep Wash.

(The above provides confirmation that the Wedge Run indeed included the Frankston village site as stated to me by the Frankston Historical Society. Sweetwater Creek (Naringalling Creek on the parish map) at Melway A 5-8 must have been the boundary between the Davey and Wedge Runs. Fiocchi Avenue, at Melway 99 C-D12, was the northern boundary of the Township according to the margin map.)

by R.V.B. of "The Australasian" and A. S. Kenyon
Misfortune often befell the early pioneers, and many lives were ended tragically. But it is difficult to find a disaster more terrible than that which overtook the Wedge family on May 21, 1852. Edward Davey Wedge arrived in Port Phillip from Van Diemen's Land in 1835 with four of his sons - Charles,Richard, Henry,and John. He had been attracted by, the reports from his youngest brother, John Helder Wedge, who came over earlier, and who became manager of the Port Phillip Association. After camping with his flocks, in which James Simpson held an interest, and living in tents at Williamstown,they moved to the Werribee. Here Edward remained with some of his family until 1852, when the great flood occurred on May 21. Edward, his wife, and his daughter Lucy were torn from the roofs of the house and outbuildings on which they were huddled, and they were drowned. Richard, who was saved by clinging to a limb of a tree; a married daughter, Mrs. King, with Misses Friend and Law and the cook, survived. The Synnots, the Chirnsides, and Mr. Langhorne's shepherds were the rescuers.

The boys, Charles, Richard, and Henry, with their uncle, John Helder Wedge, were the pioneers of the Hamilton district, for by this name their run, The Grange, which they took up and stocked in 1838, is now called. However, they soon sold out, and their property came into the possession of Captain Lonsdale, with John Moffat as manager. Uncle and nephews went to Gippsland, and they occupied the Banyan waterholes, on the Carrum swamp, as well as Bald Hall, and also Balnarring, which they purchased from the Meyricks.

At various periods in the forties they held Raen and Banyenong, on the Richardson; Trio, near Kyneton; and Glenlyon, Mount Macedon. Richard by himself had St. Agnes, near Malmsbury. After the death of Edward, John Helder Wedge sold out and returned to Tasmania, where he died in 1872. The boys dispersed over Australia. Richard died at Sale in 1870. John went to Queensland. Henry's descendants still live in Melbourne. David Charteris McArthur, the first Victorian banker and the father of Heidelberg, was a relative. (P.3, Argus, 21-9-1934.)

John Helder Wedge had definitely returned to Tasmania by 1856, as shown by details of his political career there included in his obituary (below.) I wonder if Bald Hall was meant to be Bald Hill, a name that Andrew McCrae gave to the Red Hill area near Dromana. The information supplied by steve74 is confirmed by the mention above of the Banyan waterholes. Streets are named after Wedge near the Kananook Creek and Skye.

Launceston Examiner (Tas. : 1842 - 1899) Tuesday 3 December 1872 p 2 Article
... THE LATE JOHN HELDER WEDGE, J.P. We regret to have to announce the death of another old colonist, in the person of Mr John Helder Wedge, who for many years took an active part in the political aff ... Mrs Wedge and several other relations. The service was conducted by the Rev S.B. Fookes. D ... 706 words

See Donald Charlwood's history in comment 5.


See comment 5 and my journal DISCOVERING DAVEY etc for more information about the family.

Olivers Hill was originally known as Old Man Davey's Hill.It was part of the Kannanuke Run,held by James Davey, which probably stretched from Canadian Bay Rd to the mouth of Kananook Creek. The reason the hill was named after the father of James Davey Senior, William Davey, is most likely that crown allotment 14, parish of Frankston, which contained Oliver's Hill and consisted of 85 acres 1 rood and 10 perches, was granted to William Davey. It was on the east side of the highway with Maringallang (Sweetwater) Creek being the eastern boundary and the Bembridge Ave/Fleetwood Cres. midline the southern boundary.

James Davey was granted crown allotment 13, section 5, on the coast side of the highway. Consisting of 29 acres 3 roods and 10 perches, its southern boundary was a western extension of his father's, just north of Clyde Court. James also received the grant for the 640 acre pre-emptive right whose north east boundary was Kackeraboite Creek to the point where the future highway crossed the creek (in 101 J9)and then a line parallel to Humphreys Rd and 344 metres south east of it (which probably accounts for the bends in Mann and Amesbury Rds and the length of Darvell Lane.) The south east boundary ran from just south of the Amesbury Rd bend directly towards the junction of Old Mornington Rd and Mt Eliza Way (north). The south west boundary was Canadian Bay Rd.

South east of the pre-emptive right with an 800 metre frontage to Humphreys Rd and 815 metres to Canadian Bay Rd was an un-numbered crown allotment of 393 acres 3 roods and 1 perch granted to James Daley and William Wooley. It was probably c/a 1 of section 5. Its north east corner was between the Bareena Dr and Fulton Rd corners. Its southern boundary was Canadian Bay Rd from Mt Eliza Way to the Nepean Highway.Wooley was granted a further 235 acres adjoining the Davey grants, which leads me to believe that he may have shared the lease on the Run with James Davey.

OBITUARY. MR. JAMES DAVEY. It is with regret we have to chronicle the death, at the age of 56, of Mr James Davey, a respected resident of long standing at Frankston, which occurred at Melbourne on Friday last, Mr Davey, though years ago a sufferer on account of ill-health, had recently been exceptionally well, but an attack of cerebral hemorrhage about a fortnight ago necessitated him entering a hospital, and though he rallied somewhat, the attack proved fatal, as stated above. The deceased gentleman, who had been living in St. Kilda for the past couple of years, was born at Gardiner's Creek, Victoria, but lived the greater part of his life at Davey's Bay, Frankston. He was the second eldest son of Mr Jas. Davey, one of the pioneers of this district, and after whom Davey's Bay was called. For some time the deceased gentleman lived at Red Hill, but the greater part of his life was passed at "Marysville," Davey's Bay, Frankston, erected by his father, Mr Jas. Davey, in 1851. Some interesting facts surround "Marysville," which was built at a cost of £2000, on elaborate lines, the slates and timber being brought over from Tasmania. In the early days "Marysville" was the mansion of the district. The old homestead was dismantled a few years ago by Mr A. H. Sargood, who purchased the land and erected a magnificent residence thereon, shortly after which Mr Davey moved to St. Kilda, after having spent about 40 years in the district. The deceased leaves a widow and family of six boys and four girls to mourn their loss. One of the sons, Mr Len Davey, is a resident of Mount Eliza, the others, as they have grown up, having removed to various parts. The funeral took place on Monday at the Kew Cemetery, the burial service being read by the Rev. Mr Rowells, of East Melbourne.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 4-11-1911.)

N.B. The reason James Jnr had moved to St Kilda is that he and John A.Davey had been ejected from Marysville.
Mark Brody, as agent, applied for an ejectment order against John A. and James Davey, occupiers of premises known as "Marysville," Davey's Bay. Mr Wolaston appeared for ap- plicant, and a warrant of ejectment was issued, to lie in abeyance for 14 days.(P.2, Mornington and Dromana Standard, 4-12-1909.)

See Donald Charlwood's history in comment 5.

A.M.Hunter's Run probably ran along the coast from Beleura Rd to Canadian Bay Rd, adjoining Balcombe's run in the south and James Davey's Kannanuke Run in the parish of Frankston. His pre-emptive right, consisting of 180 acres, is between Beleura Rd and Carar Creek. Attempts to find when James Butchart bought the P.R.have so far been unsuccessful but did turn up something not seen elsewhere. James built Beleura in 1863 with a fortune made by selling mutton to miners according to one Beleura website. No mention was made of the very successful stock and station firm he formed in partnership with William Kaye,which no doubt added considerably to his initial fortune.

MONEY WON'T BUY HAPPINESS is a saying that certainly applied in the case of James. James Hawkins Butchart married Margaret Sarah Lupton in late 1864 and no doubt carried her proudly over the thresh-hold at Beleura.
(P.4,Argus,21-12-1864.) A little over two months later,oh dear!

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Monday 6 March 1865 p 4 Family Notices
... DEATHS. BUTCHART.-On the 4th inst., at Somerset-place, Richmond, from injuries sustained by fire, Margaret Sarah, aged twenty-eight years, the beloved wife of James Hawkins Butchart


BUTCHART. -On the 27th inst., at Grey-street, East Melbourne, the infant son of Mr. James Butchart.
(P.4,Argus, 28-3-1865.)

Three years later the clouds revealed their silver lining.

BUTCHARTAINSLIE. On the 28th inst., at Chalmers' Church, Melbourne, by the Rev. Dr. Cairns, James Butchart, Esq., of Beleura, to Anne Brodie, eldest daughter of James Ainslie, Esq., of Waihaka, New Zealand.


Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Friday 12 November 1869 p 4 Family Notices
... DEATHS. BUTCHART-On the 11th inst., at his residence, Beleura, Mornington, James Butchart, Esq., late of the firm of Kaye and Butchart, Melbourne, aged 47 years.

Talk about steak knives!There seems to have been another marriage and tragedy between the two already mentioned.

BUTCHART.-At sea, on board the True Briton, on her passage to England, Jessie, the beloved wife of Mr. James Butchart, of Melbourne, deeply regretted by a large circle of friends. (P.4, Argus,15-5-1866.)

And,if each was the same James Butchart, there must have been another wife before Margaret who bore three children in 1854, 1858 and 1859.


There is excellent biographical information on Archibald Buchanan Yuille and his younger cousin,William Cross Yuille on the internet. William named Ballarat and Lake Wendoree was originally known as Yuille's Swamp. William (and James Purves) imported many of the first thoroughbreds to the colony and William wrote The Stud Book.

The following comes from Graeme Butler's Hastings Heritage Study. The detail previous to it dealt with the King Run in the Tyabb area and the Meyricks' Coolart which was later run by Hann* and then by Benn and T.J.Sumner until 1875. (*See the Balcombe entry.)
The Meyricks also took up the Ballanrong license in 1840, before passing it on to Thomas Gorringe in 1841. Jasper Davey took over Ballanrong in 1845, but sold it to William Yuille in 1851. From 1852 to 1857, when the lease was cancelled, Archibald Yuille held the run.

See EARLY GRANTEES (near the start of this journal) for details of Archibald Buchanan Yuille's grants in the parish of Moorooduc, purchased in 1854. Why was it that William Cross Yuille was selling these grants, and George Main's, four years later? William was about to leave for England. Where was Archibald?

Archibald had returned to the Old Country with marriage in mind.This information comes from:
Helen Mary Yuille was born on 11 Apr 1863 in ... - Freepages
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Archibald Buchanan Yuille
2nd son of George Murdoch Yuille and Matilda Buchanan,was born 2/1/1812 in Blythswood District, Glasgow and died 30 December 1881, South Kensington, London. He married Janet Ritchie Buchanan in 1857 the daughter of Hubert Buchanan and Frances Cooper. Archibald was the 7th successor to Darleith House as the first Yuille to arrive in Australia. He sailed from Liverpool aboard the 345 Ton bark Statesman, Captain Rowett on 23rd
August 1836 and arrived in Hobart on the 9th December (Victorian Men of the Time 1882 and the Hobart Town Courier). He later met with his younger cousin William Cross Yuille. Whilst in Australia he held many properties by himself or with his cousin. Archibald held 25 acres in Geelong West, Victoria. There today
Yuille Street off Pakington Street is named after him.

Another Yuille genealogy site (Yule Newsletter-Issue 6)states that Archibald and his younger cousin, William Cross Yuille, came out together and confusingly gives the year of Archibald's marriage, 1857, as the year of his birth.

THIS DAY. Schnapper Point .
Important and Unreserved Sale of 720 Acres of Land at Schnapper Point. Farms. Farms.
Eligible Building Sites, Commanding Beautiful Views of the Bay.
To Gentlemen and Merchants Requiring Sites for the Erection of Marine Villas, Capitalists Seeking Profitable Investments, or Farmers Requiring Moderate-sized Farms of Rich Agricultural Land.
EASEY and Co. have been favored with Instructions from W. C. Yuille, Esq , to SUBMIT to PUBLIC COMPETITION, at their rooms, 88 Collins street west, on Thursday, Novem ber l8, at 12 o'clock,
The following valuable Government section; agricultural land :

Lot 1.
Being portion of Government section 14, parish of Moorrooduc, at Schnapper Point, containing 320 acres 2 roods 35 perches, situate adjoining Mr.Hunter's pre- emptive right, is half a mile from the sea and the Tanti Hotel, and only 1 mile from Schnapper Point jetty. Tho position of this section is most elevated, and commands de- lightful views of the Bay and surrounding country. The soil is of a rich agricultural desoription, beautifully studded with park-like timber,and in every respect a very valuable section for the erection of villas or as an investment for subdividing into allotments.

Lot 2.
Being Government section 22, parish of Moorrooduc, at Schnapper Point, containing 289 acres 24 perches, and adjoining the north side of Mr. Yuille's pre-emptive right. This section is of a particularly rich soil, and for tho purpose of an agricultural or dairy farm far excels any land around this part of the country, and for such would be invaluable, being within one mile of Schnapper Point.

Lot 3.
Being portion of Government section 12, parish of Moorrooduc, at Schnapper Point. This lot is particularly eligible for subdivision into allotments, being within 1 mile from Schnapper Point jetty, close to the Tanti. Is very rich soil, lightly timbered, a very elevated position, and is the remaining portion of the section of which the previous subdivisions were sold by Mr. Yuille, at from 10L to 28L. per acre, and which have since changed bands at very high rates.

The auctioneers particularly beg to call the attention of gentlemen, capitalists, and farmers to the aboye important sale. The quality of the land is of a good agricultural description, elevated, and lightly timbered, and commands some beautiful sites and views of the Bay ; and their Instructions are to dispose of the whole without the slightest reserve, in consequence of Mr. Yuille's immediate departure for England.
(P.2, Argus,18-11-1858.)


Dromana, Mornington and Rye were declared townships in 1861. They celebrated their 150th anniversaries in 2011 but the settlements were probably much older than that. Fred Vine was supposed to have been the first resident of Rosebud Fishing Village in 1855, having been a crewman on the stranded Rosebud, but the village was not declared until 1873! Most inland townships sites near Melbourne were declared in 1850, usually straddling streams on well-used routes, and it is likely that there were grog shops and stores there before they were declared, such as Tulip Wright's pub at Bulla.

The bayside sites were not on well-used routes but there were probably collections of huts at the three places mentioned. All three would have had fishermen's huts,probably on the foreshore or the beach itself. Some of the lime burners near Rye were near the bay, two erecting a hut between the cemetery and Napier St.Robert Rowley's first hut at Rye was on the foreshore. Dromana (see my journal about neighbours near Carrigg St)had a store whose patrons would have been tenants on the Survey, but also the many getting timber from Arthurs Seat and loading it into boats for piers, railway sleepers and so on. Mornington got its pier in 1857 and no doubt there would have been many men unloading the timber Ben Benton had brought from the Moorooduc Plains and using it to build the pier. They would have erected dwellings within the tiny Town of Mornington.

At part of the southern boundary of the tiny Town (the Empire St Mall) there is a water fountain erected to the memory of Alexander Beatson Balcombe, the plaque stating that the area was part of his Run. Alexander was the man to whom the community turned when there was a problem. Mt Martha Park was first reserved for the site of the Governor's summer residence but this never came about, although the Esplanade had been made to provide access. Robert Byrne was one of the three trustees of the park and the community was hopping mad when it found that Byrne had given Sam Sherlock of Green Island permission to strip wattle bark in the Park (probably as Byrne's employee!) No prizes for guessing who chaired the meeting! (Shire of Mornington Heritage Study,trove.)

A common accusation about our legal system is that there's one rule for the rich and another for the poor. This champion of the downtrodden was determined that this should not be so. One tactic used by the rich to stop any attempt by the poor to bring them to justice was to delay proceedings and blowout legal costs. In one particular case, Hann of Coolart would have found out on the 1st about an imminent trial on the 5th, so he immediately left for Melbourne with cattle so the trial would be delayed. The Sheriff did not deliver the notice until the 4th and of course Hann had not returned.

Despite Hann's absence on the 5th, Alexander, Yewers and Cobb heard the case and ruled for the plaintiffs. Hann appealed, knowing that those who heard the case would not share Alexander's concern for the downtrodden.

Sir -On my return today, after a short absence from home, I first saw a report of the case Re Balcombe and others ex parte Hann, in your paper of Saturday, November 23, in which an affidavit was made, stating that the Court was requested to adjourn the case, and had refused to do so. Allow me to assure you that, had any person made such a request on behalf of Mr. Hann, it would, of course, have been complied with. And was there no justice due to the plaintiffs - a young couple just arrived in the colony, hired from the Depot, unable to procure work in the district, and living on charity till the case was decided? On hearing the case, it was proved to the satisfaction of the Bench that the plaintiffs had been forced to leave the station,and threat- ened with violence, with out receiving any remuneration for their services, instead of "absconding, " as The Chief Justice in your report is made today.

In your " Town Talk' of the same day, you remark, " that the magistrates of Schnapper Point have received the distinction of discriminate, but severe, censure by each of the three judges, and of pecuniary burden in costs by the Case. It may be a distinction, but I think, a poor reward to gentlemen who, at considerable cost, give up their time in endeavouring, to do justice to their fellow men.

As a lover of fair play, you cannot refuse to insert this statement.
I am Sir., Your obedient servant,
Nov. 30.

Balcombe, Alexander Beatson (18111877)

by Kathleen Thomson

Alexander Beatson Balcombe (1811-1877), pastoralist, was born on St Helena, the youngest of five children of William Balcombe (1779-1829) and his wife Jane, née Cranston. William senior had settled at St Helena in 1804 as a merchant and was also superintendent of public sales for the East India Co. When Napoleon was exiled to the island Balcombe became purveyor to his establishment. Before Napoleon moved to Longwood in November 1815 he lived in a pavilion on Balcombe's estate, The Briars, and became attached to the family, especially the younger daughter Lucia Elizabeth (Betsy) who later wrote Recollections of the Emperor Napoleon (London, 1844). The friendly association ended abruptly in March 1818 when Balcombe was dismissed from the island on suspicion of acting as an intermediary in clandestine French correspondence with Paris and of negotiating bills drawn by Napoleon. Although never charged with any offence, Balcombe was regarded by Lord Bathurst and the governor, Sir Hudson Lowe, as at least a dupe of the French, and was not allowed to return to St Helena. He remained in England with a dwindling income, acute gout and continual fear of positive punishment until in 1823 Lowe relented under strong pressure from Jane Balcombe and her parliamentary friends. Balcombe was then appointed colonial treasurer of New South Wales. With his family he arrived in the Hibernia at Sydney in April 1824. His elder daughter died on the voyage and Betsy, who had married Edward Abell in London on 28 May 1822 and had been deserted by her husband, soon returned with her child to England.

Balcombe died at Sydney on 19 March 1829, leaving his affairs in disorder. Creditors took most of his livestock, and his widow, left only with his land grants, petitioned for a pension without success. Unabashed she went to London to renew her plea; the Colonial Office gave her £250 to return to Sydney with her daughter and granddaughter and promised land and government posts for her children. Betsy and her eldest brother, William, were given land adjoining their father's 6000-acre (2428 ha) grant, Molonglo, near Bungonia, County Argyle, where they lived for some years. Long before William died at the Turon goldfields aged 44 on 29 January 1852, Betsy had gone to France where she was favourably noticed by Napoleon III who granted her land in Algiers; she died aged 69 on 29 June 1871 in London.

The second son, Thomas Tyrwhitt (b.1810), had attended the Sydney Grammar School and, while working for the Australian Agricultural Co. at Port Stephens, injured his head in a fall from a horse. In September 1830 he was appointed a draftsman in the Surveyor-General's Department with a salary of £150. By 1833 his work was unsatisfactory but he was saved from dismissal by the promise to his mother and put on field work. By 1837 he had won repute as a spirited painter of animals; some of his work is at the Mitchell Library. He was praised for his pictures in the Aboriginal Exhibition in 1848, did a portrait of Edward Hargraves in 1851 and illustrated (G.F.P.), Gold Pen and Pencil Sketches: Adventures of Mr. John Slasher at the Turon Diggings (Sydney, 1852). On 27 June 1840 he married Lydia Stuckey; they had three children. In 1858 the death of his eldest daughter intensified the fits of mental aberration from which he had long suffered. He continued as a government surveyor, but after many threats to end his life deliberately shot himself in the head on 13 October 1861 at his home, Napoleon Cottage, Paddington.

Alexander, named Beatson after a governor of St Helena, attended Sydney Grammar School and became a clerk in the Commissariat Department. He was dismissed 'for negligence' in April 1831 and, after his mother returned from England in 1833, joined the family at Molonglo. In 1839 he went to Port Phillip with William Rutledge and party, and liking the country returned to Molonglo to make preparations for permanent settlement. On 30 August 1841 at Bungonia, County Argyle, he married Emma Juana, second daughter of Dr David Reid, of Inverary Park. Alexander bought livestock and took his wife to Port Phillip in 1842; they stayed for some time at Merri Creek and in 1843 settled at Schnapper Point, which Balcombe named. In 1846 he took over the run Chen Chen Gurruck, or Tichingorourke, changing the name to The Briars. The property extended from the present Mornington to Mount Martha and was held under pastoral licence until 1854 when he bought 1000 acres (405 ha).

In the 1850s Balcombe joined the search for gold. In his absence, Emma Balcombe, who was a friend of Georgiana McCrae, displayed great courage when raided by bushrangers. On his return from the diggings, somewhat disillusioned, Alexander settled down to pastoral pursuits and the life of a country squire. He was appointed a magistrate in 1855 and was first chairman of the Mount Eliza Road Board formed in 1860. He also experimented unsuccessfully with wine production. He died aged 66 on 21 September 1877 at his home, Eastcourt, East Melbourne; his widow died on 3 June 1907. They had two sons and five daughters and Dame Mabel Balcombe Brookes is a granddaughter. (AUSTRALIAN DICTIONARY OF BIOGRAPHY.)

Chechingurk (as on the parish map)was due west of the Tuerong pre-emptive right,with a 163 acre property, crown allotment 26B, which became Cheshire's "Ellen-----" in between. This property was granted to S.H.Cohen on 14-7-1879. Bounded on the east by a line from the top of 151 K1 through the Red Hill Estates Vineyard in Melway 151 J3 to the bend in Vineyard Lane, and on the south by that lane to the creek that flows along the east side of the freeway, this would have been part of the Wilson family's Tuerong, but when they were declared insolvent, it came under the control of Cohen,an official assignee.

The Chechingurk P.R. was in three parts:
A of 332 acres,granted on 24-8-1854,whose western boundary was a line due magnetic south from where the Nepean Highway crosses Balcombe Creek to the left edge of 151 D3 at the highway's most easterly approach. The southern boundary of parts A and C was a road 1760 metres long to the creek at the top left corner of 151 J4.
C of 272 acres, granted on 9-1-1856. The boundary between A and C ran due south (not magnetic)from the Chechingurk Hide (145 F12)to the middle of 151 F3 where the creek and the closed road intersected exactly. The north and east boundaries were creeks.

Well might you ask,"Where is part B?"

South of the pre-emptive right was crown allotment 32 of 291 acres, bounded by the closed road described above, the creek near the freeway in 151 H4 and G5, Range Rd and the highway in 151 C3-4.

(Range Rd acquired this name in world war 2 as it was a short cut from the Balcombe barracks to the rifle range to the east of Andrew and Peter White's grants. It was originally called White's Lane, just as Balcombe's Creek was known as Quinn's Creek. The White's and Quinns were the FEMALE DROVER'S ancestors.)

The eastern boundary of part A was not the highway. According to the parish map, Bay Rd was supposed to continue east to the highway. (It was easy enough for Surveyors to draw a road up a cliff,such as Burrell Rd at Dromana,but a bit harder to build one!) Between part A and the highway was part B of 36 acres, granted on the same date as part C.

That's 931 acres, all adjoining. But wait, there's more.

North of the pre-emptive right Alexander was granted three allotments between what I presume was Harrap's Creek
and Balcombe Creek in 145 H12 and J11. They went roughly halfway to Craigie Rd and contain the Kur Bur Rer and Woodland Walks. West of Racecourse Rd were crown allotments 1 and 24 of section 24 consisting of 33.1.0 and 47.3.16, which is close enough to 48 acres. On the other side of Racecourse Rd (of 2 acres 2 roods and 11 perches,closed, and granted to J.E.Murphy on 17-9-1914)was crown allotment 1 of section 23, granted to Alexander and consisting of 62 acres and 2 roods.

That takes the total to 1074 acres. But wait,there's more, much more.
Andrew was granted crown allotment 48 of section 22 (the Township of Mornington) consisting of 48 acres 2 roods and 12 perches. It was bounded by Strachans Rd, the highway , the line of Wills St and the north-west boundary of Neptune Reserve. The second time this property was put up for sale it was referred to as Redgum Flat. The neighbouring property, fronting Wilsons Rd was Alf Downward's "Redwood"!

Alex was also granted crown allotment 17 of section 24, consisting of almost 101 acres. This fronted the north side of Bentons Rd from Dunns Rd to Racecourse Rd extending about a quarter of the way north to Tyabb Rd. The northern boundary is a line joining the end of Cootamundra Court and the southern boundary of Benton Junior College.

That's 1223 acres and our final total will be over 1385 acres. Crown Allotments 8 and 9 of the Township of Mornington were between Tanti Creek and Beleura Hill Rd. The first, fronting the highway, consisted of 92 acres, and the latter, of nearly 71 acres, was between Barkly St and the Esplanade. Andrew was also granted 17 acres between Tanti Creek and Tanti Rd now occupied by the retirement village (c/a 4 of 10.3.38),Strattons Lane (the boundary) and the motor inn (c/a 5 of 6.0.3.)


James Hearn was a nephew of Big Clarke. Lazily relying on 20 year old memories, I may have wrongly written that James was his son-in-law. Leslie Moorhead wrote in one of the school histories, (possibly Osborne State School)that Big Clarke's Jamieson's Special Survey (Safety Beach and east to Bulldog Creek Rd)and James Hearn's Mt Martha Run were combined for a while under the title of the Mount Martha Sheep Station and that Henry Dunn had leased the Mt Martha Run (possibly from 1851 when his lease of the Survey had expired and it was leased in parts to Brown-Lee (or whatever), widow McLear etc.)

Another connection between Big Clarke and James was "Roseneath", a house on a large block next to the water reserve (Woodlands Park, Melway 28 F1)at Hawstead, which today is occupied by Salmon Ave, named after William Salmon,a later owner who donated Salmon Reserve to Essendon Council. If my memory is correct, the block was granted to E.Clarke. W.J.T.Clarke's brother, Lewis, died there in 1858 and W.J.T. moved into the house in 1870. Whether this was due to his health is unclear. George Evans of Emu Bottom would have been able to suggest another reason why Big Clarke and his wife lived separately. (THE SHIRE THAT TOOK OFF,unpublished history of the Shire of Bulla by Grant Aldous,probably still in the local history room of the Sam Merrifield Library. The anecdote about Annie Holden and the pistol on the table every time Big Clarke visited was probably the reason I.W.Symonds' BULLA BULLA was chosen.)

Mr W. J. T. Clarke, whose name has been almost a household word with Victorian colonists for many years past as the richest man in Australia [he was generally known as "Big Clarke"], died at his residence, Roseneath, Essendon, yesterday afternoon, at 20 minutes to 2 o'clock, in the 73rd year of his age. For tho last four years Mr Clarke's health has been in a very critical condition. Slowly but surely he lost the use of his limbs, till at last he was unable to move in the slightest degree without assistance, and it was found neces- sary to keep relays of attendants to wait upon him day and night. (P.6,The Brisbane Courier, 24-1-1874.)

29 Apr 1886 - Family Notices
HEARNBOADLE.On 26th ult., at North-park, Essendon, by the Rev. J. Burchett, James Hearn of Roseneath, Essendon, to Mary Helen, second youngest ... (North Park was Alexander McCracken's home,now the Columbans Mission in Woodland St, Melway 28 J1.)

HEARN.On the 30th ult., at Roseneath, Essendon, the wife of James Hearna son. (P.1, Argus, 14-4-1887.)

Biography - William John Clarke - Australian Dictionary of Biography
Apart from visiting his mainland stations for shearing, Clarke lived in Tasmania until 1850 and in 1870 he made his home in Melbourne at Roseneath, Essendon.

I had always assumed that the grantee of the following property in the parish of Yuroke was Big Clarke's nephew. However this James Hearn died in 1857.

There is definitely some sort of connection regarding a large property at Rochester and the Riverina with James P.Hearn (son of James Hearn and the former Miss Boadle (who has different given names on a genealogical website)and a link with the Mornington Peninsula as Thorngrove and Coolart were hardly near each other! Perhaps the lessee of the Mount Martha Run was James Hearn (d.1857) of Thorngrove and the grantee of most of the Run was James Hearn (born 1842,married 1886)of Roseneath.

To avoid doing my head in, I'll leave the Hearn descendants to examine the evidence below and just supply details of Thorngrove, if I can find the Yuroke parish map.Bob Chalmers of the Essendon Historical Society will, I'm sure,supply details of Uardry at Essendon.

Messrs. Campbell and Sons, Kirk's Bazaar, report having sold, on account of Messrs. W. C. Hearn and Thomas Wragge, trustees in the estate of the late James Hearn, their farm, situate at Somerton, and known as the Thorngrove Farm, and containing 338 acres. Mr. John Hearn was the purchaser, at a satisfactory price.
(P.4,Argus, 18-2-1892.)

THE FRIENDS of the late JAMES HEARN, Esq.,are respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, the New Cemetery, Mel- bourne. The funeral to move from his late residence, Thorngrove, Sydney-road, on Thursday, (this day) at Ten o'clock a.m., and past the Campbellfield toll-gate about Twelve noon, 3rd September, 1857. ((P.8,Argus, 3-9-1857.)

The friends of Mr. James Hearn, of "Uardry", Essendon, will regret to hear of his death, which occurred yesterday, as a result of an attack of pneumonia contracted a few days ago. Mr. Hearn was an Australian native, having been born in Melbourne in 1842. He was well known in pastoral circles. Some 40 years ago he took up,in conjunction with his brother, Mr.John Hearn, and the late Mr. William Wragge, the "Uardry" Station on the Murrumbidgee and stocked it with sheep,and the threeafterwards owned "Cultowa", a cattle station on the Darling, "Tom's Lake" in Riverina, and "Restdown," and "Wharparilla," near Rochester in Victoria. The late Mr.Hearn eventually became the sole owner of Restdown, which he held at the time of his death. He was an enthusiastic follower of the hounds 20 or 30 years ago and was for many years a leading spirit in the Oaklands Hunt Club. He always took a lively interest in the Old Colonists Association and was for some time a member of the council of that body. Mr. Hearn has left a widow, and family.

On the 3rd inst., at Thorngrove, by the Rev. M. Clarke, of Castlemaine, William Hann, eldest son of Joseph Hann, Esq., of Coolort Station, Western Port, to Mary Burge, eldest daughter of the late James Hearn, Esq., of Thorngrove, Yuroke.(P.4,Argus, 4-9-1859.)

Surprise, surprise! James Hearn was not the grantee of Thorngrove, W.J.T.Clarke had been granted crown allotment J of section 4 on 14-2-1848. I must have got the Hearn-Thorngrove connection from my Broadmeadows rate transcriptions (which I no longer have.) Thorngrove was bounded by Somerton Rd, the original line of Pacoe Vale Rd (indicated by the line of the north-south part of Mitchell Crescent West in Melway 179 K11), a southern boundary joining the ends of Burgan Place and Dakara Close extended east to Tarcoola Ave and the transmission line in 179 F9-10. Thorngrove (part of Meadow heights) was directly across Somerton Rd (which did not then exist) from D.Cameron's "Stoney Fields" (later renamed Ruthven by the Camerons and Roxburgh Park by Thomas Brunton), also granted on 14-2-1848.

The Hearn grants in the parish of Moorooduc were along the Mt Martha coast from Bay Rd to Hearn Rd, extending east to the highway, and south east of Forest Rd/Drive to Moorooduc Rd (north of Ellerina Rd.)Crown Allotment 29A of 330 acres 3 roods,east of Moorooduc Rd to Melway 151 H 8-10, included the Tubbarubba diggings. The Hearn grants passed into the ownership of Robert Watson in the 1870's; I won't be more exact because the heritage study gives two different years. The VALE journal gives more detail.


The location of the Tuerong Run is described under RUNS near the start of the journal.The centre of the pre-emptive right was at Melway 152 B3, with Tuerong) Rd (to the Barrymore Estate Vineyard) being the eastern half of the north boundary, Gillett Rd running to the south east corner and the bend in Vineyard Rd being the south west corner. The homestead now houses the office of Dromana Estate Vineyards which has produced a history of the property.

TUERONG.xxxxxxxxxx (Me.) 22-3-2011
Tuerong was the name of a squatting run
Established before the gold rush had begun.
The pastures grew bountifully; no need for fallow,
But the cattle had to be boiled down for tallow.

Ralph Ruddell bought the station when demand had returned,
But Murphy's Law still applied, as he learned;
Insolvency, within a decade was his fate
But T.J. kept the farm's name (near his Auburn house gate).

John Wilson turned from cattle grazing to sheep
And soon Tuerong was gripped by mystery deep;
Wilson helped search for John Moriarty
And Patrick Shannon became the suspected party.

With plenty of water and pastures rich
Later owners seemed to find a regular hitch
And Tuerong Park changed hands every few years
Despite its regard among grazier peers.

Pitt, Matthews, Andrews, Dobie, names pass in a haze,
Clark and then Ken Moore of Two Bays,
Paton, whose horse, Tuerong, was fine
And raced many times in 1949.

And then Jack Edgar (Edgar's Special Survey?)
Who made it a venue for Society Day,
Where the men played polo and the women paraded
And partied long after, no matter how jaded.


The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Tuesday 16 April 1861 p 3 Advertising
... tho First Mortgagee. RUDDELL'S PRE-EMPTIVE RIGHT, Of 640 Acres, and Improvements, , Near Schnapper ... on Thursday, April 25, at twelve o'clock, That most desirable and valuable estate known as RUDDELL'S PRE-EMPTIVE BIGHT, On the main three-chaln road to tho Heads, Containing 640 acres with ... 10299 words

The Wilsons purchased Tuerong in 1869. A terrific history about this family BONNIE WILLIAM FROM DUNDEE is available online. Charlie Wilson, after whom the C.B.Wilson Reserve in Mornington was named, was born to a member of this family and a member of another old Mornington Wilson family. The Wilsons were key witnesses in the (first) SCHNAPPER POINT MURDER in 1874.

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I believe that the Mr Dory mentioned in William Vale's letter was actually Charles Dorey who must have purchased James Davey's pre-emptive right (crown grant 54?)soon after Davey gained title. See the inquest report in comment 13.
MORNINGTON SHIRE COUNCIL. Monday, 26th June, 1882. Present: Councillors Lancashire (President), Box, Young, Spargo, Prosser, and Turner.
South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 5 July 1882 Edition: WEEKLY. p 3 Article
encroached upon, also pointing out there was a Shire road running through the property of Mr Dory, ... 1792 words

This is the pertinent passage from the above,and as there is no crown allotment 54,it mean must the 54th grant issued, and I found no information about that.
From Registrar o! Titles Office, in re encroachment upon land part of Government road at Frankston, stating the original plan showed a road at the pre alluded to I chain in width, and it was for the Council to take action, should that be encroached upon, also pointing out there was a Shire road running through the property of Mr Dory, from the Point Nepean Main road to the sea as per Crown Grant 54.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Tuesday 3 April 1855 p 9 Advertising
... - 44G Beaumont Edward 447 Beaven Mr Slelaoy l18 Beek John 449 Becker C & V 450 Becker Mrs Eliza 451 ... Donnison Wm 315 Boogan Jamos 310 Doran Alexr Mooro 317 Dory Charles

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Saturday 31 July 1852 p 4 Article
... cabin-Mrs Cleveland and family, Messrs Ar- nold, Nane, Hennah, Dory,

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Monday 7 March 1853 p 10 Article
...p; Messrs. Dory, (FROM TASSIE)

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Friday 28 December 1855 p 3 Advertising
... of ; Melbourne, Diggings, &c, that we have I ulinqiiisbed business in favor of Messrs. ! JOHN DORY" ..
(AT END OF trade addresses. dory/dorg?)

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Friday 24 November 1854 p 8 Advertising
... oxpense«, and applying to Cliarlcs Dory, Brighton Beaoh. 81 FOUND, running upon my land, n'black Mare, ... 9652 words(Charles found a black boat.)
Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Wednesday 23 June 1948 p 7 Family Notices
... Do^ry, of South road. Brighton Beach. IS IT DOERY?
Edward Doery, of Doery and Tilley, Flinders Lane, asking council to pass a by-law prohibiting use of firearms between Brewery road (Mr Harris' property*) and the bay shore. While in his residence, - 'Miramee," Esplanade, he had some nasty experiences. Twice shots have ploughed up the footpath and a number of pellets
em bedded in the w.c. door. He advised laying poison for the rabbits, which would stop the shooting. Letter to be handed to the police,with a view to necessary action.

(P.2, Mornington Standard,18-10-1913.) *See MR HARRIS below.

DOERY-A tribute to the memory of Mr Edward Doery of Canterbury who passed away on the 19th July -A much respected friend Mr and Mrs Norman Spencer of Brighton Beach. (P.1, Argus, 22-7-1935.)
This,one of several death notices re Edward in the same issue, links Edward to Brighton, and as a result,Charles Dory (sic) of 1854.

Now where was Miramee? And where was Coronation Park?

INSPECTOR OF NUISANCE'S REPORT. The Inspector of Nuisances (J.W. Stephens) reported :-I have made enquiries into the complaint by E. Dorey re shooting near his premises at Coronation Park, and I find that it is correct. I warned the persons who were shooting, and would have prosecuted, but on inquiry from Mr Crosbie, shire secretary, we were unable to prove the town boundary, which is necessary before obtaining conviction. I would like to have boundary defined, and suggest it should extend along foreshore from Joseph Harris's to Beleura, thence to Nepean road, and along that road to road leading to Harris'corner.-Report received, steps to be taken to have boundary defined. (P.3, Mornington Standard, 22-11-1913.)


It is likely that Edward Doery's Miramee was near Mornington and near "Marina" the residence of Joseph Harris.
Joseph,after whom the Joseph Harris Scout Camp at Mt Martha is named, was heavily involved with Mt Martha Park and was a J.P. He appeared to live at Mornington, rather than just holiday there, as his address was given as Mornington in reports of elections described below.

MORNINGTON, Tuesday-The seaside home of Mr Joseph Harris, chairman of directors of the Victoria Coffee Palace, and formerly a member of the Legislative Assembly, was destroyed by fire early this morning. In half on hour only the chimneys were standing. A buggy shed and its contents were saved. Mrs. Harris and Miss Lawrence, who, with a maid, were the only occupants of the house, escaped with a few clothes. The house was insured but the furniture was not covered. The loss is estimated at £3,000.(P.12, Argus,4-3-1915.)

And where was this house? Passing these (pavilions etc in Mornington Park) you walk along the Esplanade till you come to Fisherman's beach, the favourite spot of the bathers. Resuming your walk, you pass Mr Harris' residence, with its lovely shrubs and hedges. A little further on are the picturesque ruins of the ancient cement works, where fossils can he found in greater profusion than anywhere else in Victoria.
(Part of prize-winning essay by 15 year old Hector Kirkpatrick; P.2, Mornington Standard, 18-10-1902.)

Noted Horticulturist.
News of the death of Mr Joseph Harris which occurred at his residence, Marina, Mornington yesterday morning will be received with widespread regret though it was not altogether unexpected. Mr. Harris who throughout his long life (he was in his 93rd year) had enjoyed almost perfect health had a slight paralytic stroke on Christmas Day and though he rallied and was able to leave his bed it had left him extremely weak. The end came painlessly.
Mr Harris was born near Bristol, England in 1833 and he was educated at Henbury College. His father had a large nursery garden so young Harris had been able


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to get a thorough training in practical horticulture before he came to Australia. He left England in 1856 by the ship Morning star. On reaching Victoria he tried his fortune as a prospector on the Korong diggings. Meeting with no success he returned to Melbourne where he took a position in the seed shop of Messrs. Smith and Adamson, Collins street. In 1862 he went into business on his own account by purchasing the nurseries of Handasyde, McMillan. This proved to be a profitable venture for, after 23 years Mr. Harris had made enough money to enable him to retire.

It was in 1873 that Mr Harris made his first entry into public life through his election as a member of the Prahran Council, and during two following years he was mayor. In 1880 when St Kilda, Prahran, South Yarra, Toorak and Armadale formed a single electorate of the Legislative Assembly, he was elected by a large majority to the seat. There were two representatives of this electorate and his colleague was Mr. G. D. Carter. When the electorate was subdivided into four - that was in 1889- Mr Harris stood for South Yarra, and again he was returned by a large majority. Altogether between 1880 and 1900 he contested eight elections and only on one occasion (in 1894) was he defeated. However, in 1897 he won the seat again, and held it until 1904, when South Yarra and Prahran were formed into one constituency. In politics he was a Liberal. It should be added that during his long Parliamentary career the exceptional ability of Mr. Harris was always recognised, as well as his sterling character. Though he had opportunities of accepting a portfolio he always declined to assume office.

Although a member of the Church of England, Mr Harris was for 20 years on the board of management of the South Yarra Presbyterian Church. He sat, indeed, on numerous boards, and on all those that were appointed by the Ministry of the day to report on horticultural and agricultural subjects. In these he took the greatest interest and he was a recognised authority far beyond the bounds of the Commonwealth. He was also Government nominee of the Council of Agricultural Education. His specialty was tropic vegetation, and to study this he travelled much in the north of Australia, and he also made several voyages to the Pacific Islands.

About 30 years ago Mr Harris accepted the position of horticultural editor of "The Australasian" a position that he occupied until February 1920. Although at that time well past his 80th year his faculties were absolutely unimpaired-they were, indeed to the day of his death - and the proprietors of "The Argus" and of "The Australasian" were desirous that he should remain in harness. Mr Harris who had a number of business interests, said, however, that at his age he deserved some relaxation; he adhered, therefore, to his determination to retire from a position which, for more than 25 years, he had filled with distinguished abilty and success.

Mr Harris married Miss Eliza Nicholson. His wife died nine years ago. Two daughters -Mrs Rosa Pitt and Mrs T.P.Long, survive him and one son - Mr F. Harris. The third daughter, the late Mrs F. Vanderkelen was the wife of Mr. Vanderkelen who for several years was the Belgian consul in Melbourne.(P.21,Argus,11-3-1925.)

N.B. One of Alfred Downward's daughters (Ivy?) also married a Pitt lad and Pitt St, near Downward St off Wilson Rd (on the "Redwood" 10 acre homestead block) is named after her. The redwood Gums at the end of Downward St, the only ones known to have grown south of Frankston, are heritage-listed.

A lot of unanswered questions about Mr Doery/Dorey! (See comment 13!)


16. SMITH.
John Thomas Smith was granted crown allotment 1, no section, on 12-1-1855. Today known as the Ranelagh Estate, this consisted of 282 acres and 15 perches. It was bounded by the south side of Boundary Rd (Canadian Bay Rd), Mt Eliza Way south, 70 metres south along the present Nepean Highway to the northern tributary of Erimil Creek and west along the tributary and creek to the coast.Smith called his homestead "Nyora" and this name described the estate at the time of Henry Slaney's death, soon after which the Ranelagh Estate was developed.

The "back lot"referred to in the letter was crown allotment 19 of 437 acres 1 rood and 13perches.It was bounded by Canadian Bay Rd (N/E),Three Chain Road (Moorooduc Rd)(East), a line commencing 374 metres south of the railway crossing (where Mrs Firth was killed*) to the top of Tower Rd (S/W),and Wooralla Drive (West.)

If you click on the self guided tour of the Ranelagh Estate (on the website below)and then on the map link, you will find precisely where J.T.Smith's bayside grant was.
Walter Burley Griffin Society - Self guided tours
Ranelagh Estate is at Mount Eliza which is adjacent to Port Philip Bay on Melbourne's southern fringe and provides the gateway to the western part of the ...

The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954) Saturday 10 February 1923 p 8 Article.

MOTOR AND TRAIN. Lady Driver Killed. Melbourne, Feb. 9.
The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879 - 1954) Saturday 10 February 1923 p 8 Article

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) Saturday 10 February 1923 p 4 Article

J.T.Smith, seven times Mayor of Melbourne,arrived from Sydney to teach at George Langhorne's mission for the aborigines on the Botanical Gardens site. He soon became a businessman and received grants for land at Green Gully near Keilor in the parish of Maribyrnong; North Essendon,and Kensington (including the State School site) in the parish of Doutta Galla and what became the Ranelagh Estate, Mt Eliza, at the north west corner of the parish of Moorooduc.
At the time of this meeting, he was probably living in Melbourne,possibly in the oldest surviving house in Melbourne, photographed by the wonderful MUZZA OF McCRAE. He later built Ascot House in Fenton St Ascot Vale. In the early 1860's, he was a foundation member of the Borough of Essendon and Flemington and became one of the three M.L.C.'s for West Bourke. He was accused of bribing voters with inducements such as oranges that he grew; his orchard was probably near Cranwell St, North Essendon not far east from the Irish Dr Harbinson's orange grove (Melway 16 E12.)The Fitzroy Historical Society website states that he was also an alderman in that area.His portrait can be seen on the internet. Edward Wilson, editor of the Argus, constantly criticised J.T.Smith.(Sources: The Stopover That Stayed" Grant Aldous;parish maps; Keilor Centenary Souvenir 1950? eMelbourne past and present website under Mayoralty etc.)



A Land Distribution will take place at the Society's Office, 38 Collins-street east, on Saturday, Dec, 9th, at three o'clock p.m., when the following members will be entitled to participate in the land undermentioned :-

Moorooduc near Mount Eliza,

- Class A. Mr H.S.Shaw ... 1 Mr. G. C. Young ... 1 John Holland... 1 F. Barnard ... 1
John Grinrod ... 1 W. Green ... 1 John Mason ... 1 P. Jones... 1 J. T. Pender ... 1 G.E.White ... 1 Miss M.M. Anderson... 2
(I have deleted members entitled to land at Caulfield and Emerald Hill i.e. South Melbourne. I have also deleted quite a bit that follows this paragraph and shows how wide-spread the Society's purchases were.)

The Society has recently purchased 60 acres of land suited for market gardens in the parish of Prahran, adjoining Caulfield, which with farms at Kororoit, at Doutta Galla near Essendon, and township lots at Northcote, will be distributed on an early day. (P.8, Argus,8-12-1854.)


Edward Lintot was granted crown allotment 2 between Smith's "Nyora" and Kunyung Rd, the Erimil Creek (and its northern tributary)dividing the two grants. Lintot's "Earimil" consisted of 290 acres 1 rood and 2 perches. St James the Less church stands in its north east corner.

DEATH OF A GIPPSLAND PIONEER. CAPTAIN LINTOTT OF BRANDY CREEK. Shortly after midnight on Sunday there passed away at the advanced age of 82, in the person of Captain Lintott, of Brandy Creek, one of the oldest pioneers of the Gippsland district. The deceased gentleman, who was widely respected, had been suffering from weakness of the heart's action, and for some days previous to his death had been in a very low condition. He leaves a widow and a daughter, the only child, who is married to Captain Gabbett, of the Mounted Rifles. Captain Lintott was formerly in the East Indian Service, but relinquishing seafaring life some 42 years ago he settled in the Twofold Bay district of New South Wales. where he owned the Double Creek Station which adjoined that of Brogo, belonging to Mr. S. W. Pollock, now of Warragul. Some years later he left this locality and settled in Riverina, on the Edwards River, joining partnership with his brother Stephen on a sheep station. After this, we understand, he lived at Schnapper Point, and subsequently moved to Brandy Creek, where he has for many years been regarded as the father of the district. He was an old identity, in fact the name of Brandy Creek could not be disassociated from that of Captain Lintott. He was a man of fearless conduct and remarkable integrity, and as straightforward a gentleman as the district possessed. For many years, in fact until quite recently, he carried out the duties of lay reader at the local Anglican Church. Some 17 years ago he was appointed a territorial magistrate for the whole of the colony of Victoria, but later, when the bailiwicks were determined upon, he received his commission as a justice of the peace for the Eastern Bailiwick, and, notwithstanding his advanced age, even until quite recently he was remarkable for his punctuality and attendance both at Brandy Creek and Drouin courts, to say nothing of other duties appertaining to his office. For many years, together with Messrs. Jas. Copeland and C. Sargeant, he adjudicated at Brandy Creek long before the railway passed through Gippsland, and when the now decayed township on the main Sale road was in the height of its prosperity, being the principal stopping place between Dandenong and Sale, he was one of the first members of the Buln Buln Shire Council prior to the severance of the Warragul territory therefrom. He was also an active member of the Buln Buln Agricultural Society, and his venerable figure was conspicuous at each of the society's shows. In fact, in every instance, he displayed remarkable vigor in connection with all movements concerning the progress of the district. The members of the legal profession, the public officers, police, etc.,have always entertained the very highest respect for his opinions, whilst his decision on the bench were characteristic for their attention to the equities of the case, rather than to points of law and legal technicalities. Some three years ago Captain Lintott was entertained at a banquet by a large number of friends, when he was the recipient of an illuminated address and a purse of 120 sovereigns, in recognition of his public services to the district. The funeral takes place to-day, but will be of a private character.((P.3,Warragul Guardian and Buln Buln and Narracan Shire Advocate, 12-5-1891.)

The captain's given name was Edward.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Wednesday 9 December 1863 p 5 Article
... Lintott, William Preston Cobb, and James Butchardt, to be a committee of management of the site at Schnapper Point, (Mornington) reserved as a park for public recreation.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Thursday 2 January 1862 p 2 Advertising
... January S. EARIMIL HOUSE, near Schnapper Point, will BO- BE-OPENED, as a LADIES' SCHOOL, after the Christmas holidays. For terms and particulars address Mrs. Lintott, Schnapper Point.

Mount Eliza Sightseeing, Canadian Bay, Daveys Bay, Sunnyside ...
Continue down Kunyung Road to Earimil Drive. At number 8 you will find a delightful cottage built in 1854 by a Welsh sea captain, Edward Lintott. At the north ...

A rule nisi to prohibit E. B. Balcombe, Edward Lintot, and W. P. Cobb, justices of the peace, from executing a conviction made by them in petty sessions at Schnapper Point, against the complainant, in his absence, on an information by servants claiming wages.Mr. Chapman for the rule nisi, and against the conviction; Mr. Fellows in support of the conviction, and against prohibition.

An information was laid against Mr. Hann by two persons whom he had engaged as labourers on a hiring for a term. A summons to attend was issued to Mr. Hann on Saturday, the 28th September. Mr. Hann started from his place* at Western Port with cattle to Melbourne on Tues- day, the 1st October. The summons issued to him on Saturday, the 28th September, was not served by the constable until Friday, the-4th October. It was served on Mr. Hann s daughter, at his house at Western Port, sixteen miles from Schnapper Point, and Miss Hann informed the constable that her father had left with cattle for Melbourne, on the 1st, and would be back on the

7th. On the 5th, the case came on for hearing at Schnapper Point. The constable,who served the summons, informed the Bench that he had served the daughter of the defendant, and been informed by her of his having left for Melbourne with cattle on the 1st, and of her expectation that he would be back on the 7th. The Court was asked to adjourn. Adjournment was refused the case was gone into in the absence of the defendant; and an order was made for such a sum , and costs that he could not appeal. After Hann's return, he applied for a rehearing, and was refused. It was sworn by Mr. Armstrong, clerk of the bench, that no depositions were taken in writing ; and that this step was taken in this case by the express directions of Mr. Balcombe, J. P.
(Part of report; P.6, Argus, 23-11-1861.)


John Yewers was granted crown allotment 5 Moorooduc, consisting of 159 acres 3 roods and 9 perches. It was between Sunnyside Rd and Manmangur Creek (the eastern boundary of the Mornington Golf Club.) This property became known as "Sunnyside".

It is uncertain at the moment whether John had much to do with crown allotment 5. His purchase may have been for speculative purposes like the house blocks he bought at Donnybrook in 1855. His hotel would have kept him busy.

December 25th, on board the Yarra Yarra steamer, on her passage to Launceston, Emily Hayson Yewers, youngest daughter of Mr. John Yewers, late of the Albion Hotel, Bourke street.(P.4, Argus, 5-1-1853.)

Was Henry's presence at Somerville in 1859 linked with John's application for a licence for the Yewers' Family Hotel being refused? (P.6, Argus, 2-3-1859.)

Not deterred, John was running the bridge Hotel at Echuca in 1865 when he became insolvent.
(P.6, Argus, 6-2-1865.)

John was not the father of Henry, so they might have been brothers.

On page 17 of THE BUTCHER THE BAKER THE, Bruce Bennett provides the following information about the Yewers family.
Henry Yewers was among the first subscribers to the Somerville school in 1859. Henry had a butcher's shop in Main St, Mornington by 1869.In about 1873, Robert Lawson Yewers was a butcher at Mornington while Henry at Somerville and Alf at Yarraville carried on the same trade. Robert also owned the Somerville shop and had slaughteryards and land at** Moorooduc.
* Probably on c/a 5. Bruce several times failed to distinguish between the parish of Moorooduc and the locality of Moorooduc (based on Jones Corner.)

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Wednesday 13 March 1878 p 1 Family Notices
... YEWERS-GROVER.-On the 7th inst, at the residence of the bride's parents, by the Rev Jas Caldwell, Robert Lawson Yewers, of Footscray, to Mary Ann, second daughter of Mr W Grover, of Mornington ...
(William Grover was a builder and built Beleura for James Butchart.)

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Saturday 23 March 1878 p 1 Family Notices
... months. YEWERS.-On the 22nd inst, at his son's residence, Nicholson-street, Footscray, Henry Hayson Yewers, late of Mornington, in the 69th year of his age. ... 422 words

MORNINGTON. - Councillors Jones* and Yewers were proposed, and the voting being equal, the decision by lot fell to Councillor Henry Yewers. (P.10,Argus, 19-11-1874.) Henry became the Shire President.
*Cr Jones was probably Alfred Jones of the Almond Bush Stud at Somerville,English-born but resident in Canada from the age of about 10, and one of the three Canadians who gave Canadian Bay its name.


William Preston Cobb was a Justice of the Peace and sat on the bench with Alex Balcombe and Edward Lintot. (See article above under LINTOT.)

William was granted crown allotment 6, between Yewers' grant and Hunter's pre-emptive right. Bounded by Manmangur and Caraar Creeks, it consisted of 192 acres 3 roods and 2 perches. He named it Preston Grange. Today it houses the Mornington Golf Club , Mornington Secondary College and a small residential area with Jacaranda Crescent the main street.

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Wednesday 8 August 1860 p 4 Family Notices
...nbsp; Evangelist, Emerald Hill, by the Rev. R. B. Dickin- son, William Preston Cobb, Esq., of Preston Grange, Schnapper Point, to Emma Mansfield, daughter of the late Venerable Henry Jeffreys, ..

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Saturday 8 June 1861 p 4 Family Notices
... BIRTHS.COBB.-On the 5th inst., at St. Kilda, Mrs. W. Preston Cobb, of Preston Grange, of a daughter.

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Wednesday 25 February 1863 p 4 Family Notices
COBB.-On the 22nd inst., at Preston Grange, Schnapper Point, Mrs. W. Preston Cobb of a son.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Saturday 15 September 1860 p 5 Article
... William Preston Cobb, Esq., Preston Grange, Schnapper Point; William Henry Robertson, Esq., Moorab- bee, ..(The Argus listed the new Justices of the Peace whose appointments were in the Government Gazette.)

COBB.-In February, at Acomb, near York, Emma Mansfield, tbe beloved wife of William Preston Cobb, Esq., late of Preston Grange, Mornington. (P.4, Argus, 24-5-1870.)

11th November 1921 Frankston & Somerville Standard
D Kelly, Playne" St, Frankston, writes:-I notice in your last Langwarrin Budget that Mr John Clark is claimed as a very old resident of the district. I also read with interest and amusement his memoirs of the early days. He says there was a native camp on the site of Keast Bros' store. I have resided in Frankston for the past 60 years and I never saw a blacks' camp on the site mentioned. Two blacks (Jimmie and Liza) camped on the site of the Temperance Hall-that's all I ever saw. And about those corroberies at Carrum. My aunt owned the Long Beach Hotel (now known as the Riviera) over 65 years ago and she never witnessed any corroberies there, Mr Clark claims to have planted the wonderful pear tree on Miss Latto's property. When I came to Frankston some 63 years ago, the tree was then about five years' old; having been planted by an American negro, Adam Orange (or Black Adam), employed by the Lyarid family. So, Mr Clark is either older than he looks, or he has lived since the days of our venerable friend, Noah.


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By some fluke, when I was researching the reason for Gomms Rd being north of Eramosa Rd, rather than on "Glenhoya", I found the Frankston parish map online. Luckily I superimposed the Gomm and Firth grants on my Melway maps in SUPERPAGES (and the nearby Baxter, Sage, Sumner etc grants) because subsequent attempts to find the map failed.

Before I detail the maps available online, I will tell you how I manage to superimpose crown allotment boundaries on Melway and warn you about the Melway maps on Superpages. Having found the Frankston parish map again last night ( because I remembered that the word PARISH did not appear on it but COUNTY OF MORNINGTON did), I was excited to find that the grants of McMahon, Carr and Liardet adjoined each other.They all had eastern boundaries of 4000 links so it was going to be easy to find out the dividing boundaries; Skye Rd and Beach St-Cranbourne Rd were exactly a mile apart.But when I put my ruler on the map in SuperPages, it told me that the roads were 1400 metres apart. So I tried it in Melway and found that they were actually 1620 metres apart. This showed that (a)the SuperPages maps are only seven eighths of the scale of Melway maps; (b) the surveyors were a chain (cricket pitch) out in their measurements or one of the roads has been re-aligned further away from the other.

A mile equals 80 chains or 8000 links. Sharps Rd, Tullamarine, west of Broadmeadows Rd, (the south boundary of Section 3 Tullamarine)was 8000 links. When I decided to transpose the parish map onto Melway, I imagined complicated calculations on a calculator being the order of the day. But when I measured this distance on my ruler,it was exactly 8 centimetres. As the scale is one millimetre to a chain (20 metres), it is fairly easy to plot boundaries and accurately describe road frontages (if measurements are given on parish maps!)

If you happen to google FRANKSTON PARISH MAPS, you will find (a)four 320 acre crown allotments east of Frankston Village with description of the land; (b) two village maps that seem to be almost identical and name many grantees; and (c), after THE WELLS STORY and ST PAUL'S ANGLICAN CHURCH, a map showing crown allotments in the parishes of Frankston and Moorooduc. The last map (1854) shows only one grantee, Yuille,who seems to have preferred his grant over the homestead block (Pre-emptive Right)of Ballanrong, which was granted to T.J.Sumner two years later. This map shows how Old Mornington Rd led to the Three Chain (Moorooduc) road via Mt Eliza Way and Wooralla Drive. It also shows fences and other features as well as how the government roads followed old tracks with a few modifications.

If you want a map, with grantees,measurements etc. that will show where your pioneering ancestor was granted land, you need to google:

The maps are there waiting for you. Go to it, Frankston "diggers".


Would you believe it? This journal was to be about ROSEBUD:FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA and now I can't find it. However, while I stumble around trying to find it again,here's something to go on with.

Early days in Rosebud, Victoria |‎
The T-Model Ford was owned by Bert White (I think, I'll check), and the tree had grown over the road, been blown over a little more as far as it would go as a ...

Life in Rosebud in the early years |‎
By Owen Vincent (Vin) Burnham. When I was quite young (about seven, early 1920s) the Nepean Highway was a gravel and dirt road right up to Frankston from ...

In the latter, Vin is confused regarding Judith Durham. The house was a timber one on the west side of Durham Place midway between the highway and the beach according to Judith who spent her first six summers there before her family moved to Tasmania. The Mr Durham mentioned was Tony Durham, Judith's grandfather. Tony was the child of his mother,Emily (nee King)and a Greek fisherman, whose surname is unclear. After his death, Emily married Mr Durham whose surname was adopted by Tony. His daughter married William Alexander Cock and in July 1943 Judith was born (Judith Mavis Cock) in Essendon while her father was earning his the war. Her great grand-mother,Emily, was the sister of Elizabeth who married Forti Lacco,original grantee in the fishing village on the very block on which Emily's house stood,and patriarch of the famous wooden-boat building family.

I mentioned Chatfield's hut on the foreshore at Rosebud West in my journal about Rosebud Ted finding James George dead. When Chatfield turned to store-keeping, Axel Vincenttook over his foreshore hut and presumably his boat and gear.

Finally found it. Google: <vp1414.pdf>. Then click on "View a 9.6 MB pdf file of the pamphlet."

My aim in this journal, covering the area north of Eastbourne Rd,is four-fold.
1. To outline the squatting era,the parish and grantees and explain why the population was so small.
2. To deal page by page with any errors in ROSEBUD: FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA and provide extra detail.
3. To deal page by page with any errors in Vin Burnham's history and provide extra detail.
4. To describe detail in a map drawn by an unknown pioneer of residents in the fishing village and across the road.

Wannaeue is the name of the parish bounded by Burrell Rd in Dromana (*which you won't find on Melway), Mornington-Flinders Rd and part of Main Creek, Limestone Rd and Weeroona St/Government Rd in Rye and the Port Phillip Bay coast. Fingal was to the south, Nepean to the west, and to the east Kangerong and Balnarring separated by Arthurs Seat/Red Hill Rds.
*Burrell Rd is shown on the Dromana Township map as its western boundary between the Esplanade (as the beach road was named in Dromana,Rosebud and Rye) and the north-south section of Latrobe Pde.

As the Sullivan's Bay settlement near Sorrento was in the parish of Nepean, and Matthew Flinders and his nephew (later Sir John Franklin) were in Kangerong when they used Arthurs Seat to survey the bay, it is probable that the first white men to set foot in Wannaeue were sealers. Hollinshead mentions that an early explorer (Captain Murray in 1803?) found huts near the mouth of Chinaman's Creek (which at that time and until Ned Williams dug the channel was opposite the Rosebud Hospital site.) William Buckley's trek around the bay probably came after the sealers had killed off the seals and abducted many Boon-wurrung women whom they took to Tassie;this is why most Boon-wurrung descendants come from Tassie.

After John Batman had made his one-sided treaty to obtain a huge area north and west of the bay for the Port Phillip Association, he boasted in John Pascoe Fawkner's Cornwall Hotel in Launceston that he was the greatest landowner in the world. (THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JOHN PASCOE FAWKNER by C.P.Billot.) Fawkner may have already hatched plans for his own invasion but you could imagine how this spurred him into action. He immediately chartered a vessel but unfortunately it had to finish a previous charter. Eventually Fawkner and his party boarded the Enterprize but the Master refused to take Fawkner,who was put ashore in Queens Town to settle his financial affairs. Fawkner later gave sea-sickness as the reason he went ashore!

Captain Lancey was put in charge of the party which included Evans who established Emu Bottom near Sunbury. He was given instructions to try Westernport first but was unimpressed and entered the bay. A 1935 article,based on Lancey's diary gives exact dates for this and other incidents as they sailed up the bay and can be retrieved from my DROMANA ROSEBUD AND MILES AROUND ON TROVE if requested. The party landed near Rosebud but was also unimpressed by their walkabout.

Wannaeue included three squatting runs and possibly five. The Boniyong Run included part of the parish of Fingal,Tootgarook was in the area now carrying the name, Arthurs Seat probably included the parish of Kangerong (except for Jamieson's Special Survey), Wooloowoolooboolook was probably between Old Cape Schanck Rd and Boneo Rd and Captain Henry Everest may have had a 750 acres Run adjoining the Arthurs Seat Run at Adams Creek (The Avenue) and extending south to Hove Rd.

In 1843, Owen Cain established Tyrone west of Rye, and soon after, his four and a half year old daughter, Sarah, went missing for four days and nights.She heard searchers calling but didn't answer because she feared that the sounds came from aborigines. Near dead she was taken to George Smith's Wooloowoolooboolook Station where Mrs Smith (related to Captain Hobson of the Rattlesnake,according to Spencer Jackson in BEAUTIFUL DROMANA)nursed her back to health.

The date of Captain Henry Everest Adams' arrival at Adams'Corner (Wattle Place) is shrouded in mystery. The amazing thing is that Adams' folklore mentions a 750 acre property (which is wrongly called a grant.) It was supposed to have been given to him as a reward for carrying convicts. Victoria prides itself on not having been a convict colony and turned away the Pentonvillians but I know when convicts were imported. It's all on trove! In about 1841 there was a severe labour shortage and the authorities imported ticket of leave men from Van Dieman's Land until the Bounty passengers from England ( such as Oliver and Sarah Wilson, subjects of one of my journals)started to arrive.

The Dromana Pioneer Pathway plaque states that the Captain arrived in 1845 but later the Dromana Historical Society decided he had beached his ship in the area about five years earlier. The home he built with the ship's timbers was on the site of the McCrae Car wash. This was on crown allotment 20 Wannaeue, between The Avenue and Parkmore Rd and South to Cape Schanck Rd (the freeway)which was not available for selection in the 1850's and was sold as the Village of Wannaeue in about 1877.

Next paragraph in comment 1.(Purves,Barker, Burrell.)

When the land in Wannaeue was made available for selection, crown allotment 19, between Parkmore Rd and Adams Avenue, was selected by Isaac White. It is not clear which Isaac White this was but it could have been the following:
On the 33rd inst., suddenly, at Prahran, of apoplexy, Mr. Isaac White, aged 58 years. Friends please to ac-
cept this notice. (P.4, Argus, 25-7-1854.)

In the first Kangerong Road Board assessment of 3-9-1864,Henry Everest Adams was rated on a seven roomed house and 91 acres (N.A.V. 30 pounds) but the NAV was unchanged on 5-9-1865 when the assessment included 191 acres (Isaac White's grant.)

Crown allotment 18, between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd, and consisting of 152 acres 2 roods and 16 perches, was granted to G.H.Warren. Between Jetty Rd and the line of Norm Clark Walk was c/a 17 of 129 acres 2 roods and 28 perches, granted to R.Glover and J.Wallace on 16-5-1856. Between there and about Fifth Avenue was c/a 16 of 115 acres, granted to H.Stratford and J.Ridgway on 13-6-1856. Crown allotment 15, of 101 acres 1 rood and 8 perches extending west to First Avenue,was granted to R.M.Owens on 13-6-1856. Crown allotment 14 of 116 acres 3 roods and 38 perches was granted to Hugh Glass.

All of the allotments mentioned (17-14) extended south to the government road (Eastbourne Rd.) Hugh Glass probably bought c/a 14, between First Avenue and Boneo Rd, as a holding paddock for stock being driven to Melbourne COMMENT 2.


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by bluestonedreaming on 2012-02-04 22:02:25
Hi itellya,
just joined up family tree to tell ya thta i am enjoying your Tullamarine history notes very much! SInce moving to the corner of Melrose and Tadstan drive(Broombank I am so far gathering?) ten years ago , i felt a lot of history here that appearances did not indicate was so. Have looked sporadically for information on th e internet mainly, as being oft housebound, google has been the extent of "research". . So excited to be able to read your fascinating insights and wealth of knowledge, thankyou so much for sharing! You have inspired me to make the plan for the Public Records Office this year, although I may not need it as your findings are so thorough. Marvellous!
by bluestonedreaming on 2012-02-04 22:04:20
*make the plan for a visit to the PRO!
by itellya on 2012-02-05 00:58:03
Ben Kelly was one of the buyers in Ray Loft's subdivision of Broombank. He had a large block at the corner of Lancefield Rd (Melrose Drive) and Tadstan Drive.
Ben's eccentric ways are described by Leo Dineen in the following. Google "Ben Kelly, rowing" and you'll get an idea about how extraordinary this pioneer of the suburb of Tullamarine was.

by me, 1998.
Tullamarine grows.
There were attempts to develop Tullamarine in the early 1890s and the mid 1920s. Speculator,G.W.Taylor, bought Gladstone and many farms along Bulla Rd.(Melrose Drive) because his politician mate, Tommy Bent, intended to build a branch railway line to Bulla, perhaps passing through Broadmeadows Township (Westmeadows). The depression of about 1892 put an end to the railway and Taylor lost his deposit and other payments to the farm owners who regained ownership.
Soon after moving to Tullamarine in the early 1920s, Tom Loft subdivided part of his farm, Dalkeith, with lots 1-16 being bounded by Dalkeith Ave., Broadmeadows Rd., Sharps Rd. and Eumarella St. Lots 17-32 were between Eumarella and Gordon Streets. As in 1890 the land boom was followed by a bust and the depression of the 1930s, followed by a shortage of building materials during and after the war meant that little new housing was seen in the area till the 1950s. It is unlikely, however, that Lofts Subdivision would have sold even without these impediments; people just didnt know where Tullamarine was!
Returned servicemen making up for lost time had caused a demand for housing in the 1920s and this situation was now repeated. Stanley Korman bought Gladstone, Palmers land and Gowanbrae, Denhams Land (Catherine Ave. and Trade Park Industrial Estate) and Strathconnan as well as Woodlands and other land to the north. His efforts to develop Gladstone Park were thwarted by the M.M.B.W.s inability to extend a water main to the estate. Thousands of small investors in Stanhill lost their life-savings but after a decade Korman sold Gladstone Park, which was in the name of a family trust, to Costains for an 8000% profit.
Joe Thomas of Carinya Park in Sharps Rd. was able to purchase Mansfields Triangle, Bill Parrs old Annandale farm at the west end of Sharps Rd. and land further west, but only the first of these became a housing estate. It was part of Carinya Park which started the first real burst of development in Tullamarine; Ray Loft had sold Broombank in the early 1950s to Ben Kelly and Walter Murphy but the people who settled here usually knew the area already. Established in March 1955, Caterpillar of Australia Pty. Ltd. purchased 110 acres and by November, the first steel had arrived for the 100 000 squ. ft. plant and before this was completed the construction of a second plant of the same size was authorised. The first grader was completed in January 1957 and by the time the factory was officially opened by the Governor, Sir Dallas Brooks, on 11-4-1960, the number of employees had risen from 55 to 650.
Another local landmark was commenced in about November 1955. This was the Village Drive-in, which occupied the site of Forum Dr., Paramount Ct. and Columbia Cl. houses. As no patrons were likely to travel to the unknown Tullamarine, it was called the Essendon drive-in to convey the impression that it was not far past the Essendon Aerodrome. Residents across Bulla or Lancefield Rd.(as it was later called) such as Alf Murray were not impressed by some patrons; not because they tested their suspensions inside the theatre but because they tried to beat the land-speed record as they took off on the gravelled exit.
No doubt many of the Triangular Estates first residents moved there because of the employment provided by Caterpillar. Many of them were migrants such as Ilko Romaniw who moved to the Triangle in 1949. Other migrants, such as Stella Collins in 1953, settled near Malvern Ave. on an estate sold by Bruce Small, manufacturer of the famed Malvern Star bicycles and later Mayor of the Gold Coast. The resulting increase in the number of children presented a twofold problem for Tom Dunne, the teacher at Tullamarine State School 2613 at the corner of Bulla Rd. and Conders Lane (the north corner of Melrose Dr. and Link Rd.) Many children could not be accommodated and many of the new enrolments could not speak a word of English.
One child in the overflow forced to attend Essendon North Primary School was Jan Hedger who now under the alias of Jan Hutchinson carries on her late fathers fine record of community service. However Jan was not always so virtuous!
Ceremonies lasting four days will give Caterpillar dealers, customers, officials of local,civic, trade and social organisations, employees family and friends, the opportunity to tour the manufacturing building and also see the display of equipment So said the newspaper. It is unlikely that Jan and her fellow educational exiles did much touring or inspecting but upon alighting from the bus they treated themselves to the sort of afternoon tea that dreams are made of, four days in a row!
By 1959, subdivisional plans had been drawn up for 20 000 homes, new schools near the west end of Catherine Ave and in Western Ave. and Gladstone Park, and a Shopping Centre near Phelan Crt. Crottys Broomfield and land further south to Spence St were included in this grand plan, which encompassed the area between Moonee Ponds Creek and the west end of Sharps Rd. Locals, who were worried about rumours of a gasometer being built, were staggered when surveyors told them that land was to be acquired for an airport.
This halted work on the Tullamarine hall whose foundations had just been poured on the Bulla Rd Recreation Reserve. It also spelt the end for farms such as Bayview, Sinleigh, The Elms, Ecclesfield, Gowrie Park, Glendewar, Seafield, Oakbank and Ristaro where hay-growing and dairying had been carried out for well over a century with some pig and poultry farming commencing in the 1920s. Perhaps it had been an omen when James Lanes Gowrie Park was used as a landing field even before Essendon Aerodrome opened; watching planes landing at Tullamarine, one is looking at the former Gowrie Park. A proposal to rename airport streets in 1989 was abandoned but my suggestion of Gowrie Park Dr., near the Liquor Locker, sneaked through somehow.
Walter Murphy led a committee of citizens opposing the Jetport with the backing of Korman and others but their suggestion that Avalon was a better site was not accepted. Walter was a great leader of the Tullamarine community who organised the relocation of the Tuulamarine and Broadmeadows Township war memorials and St Marys Church as well as heading the committee which had reached the foundations stage for the hall.
Stanley Korman was having trouble in getting a water supply but he was not on his own. Triangle residents and those near Malvern Ave. had to cart water from a standpipe which I believe was near the Carrick Dr. corner. Residents had lengthy waits before power could be connected as well. Other problems such as poor drainage and a lack of rubbish collections made our recent week of cold showers seem fairly insignificant. Sid Hedger was later to play a huge part in getting sewerage for residents at a reasonable cost.
Roads were a nightmare. The sealed middle section of Lancefield, Broadmeadows and Sharps Rds. was only wide enough for one car and drivers using the shoulders felt that they might roll over as the camber was so steep. It was not until the early 70s, when Cr. Leo Dineen persuaded the Commonwealth to give a substantial grant because Sharps Rd. provided access to the airport, that any of the main roads became more than goat tracks. In 1974, Cr. Gibb was riding his motor bike across the one-way bridge in Fosters Rd. on the way to a council meeting when a drunk driver sped onto the bridge, knocking him off the edge to fall several metres into the creek; bruised and soaked, he made it to the meeting but was carted off home to recover.
By 1957, Lofts Subdivision boasted six houses, occupied by the Lloyd brothers, H.J.Bond, Frank Place, K.M.Wilson, L.Greenaway (Broadmeadows Rd.), Joe Crotty (3 Eumarella St) and Alf Cock (2 Gordon St.). Percy Hurren, who owned Dalkeith, lived in the homestead on the north corner of Dalkeith Ave. By this time, Mrs. Watson who had run the post office attached to 318 Melrose Dr., had transferred to the General Store on the site of the present liquor store in the triangle. Later, the rest of Dalkeith was developed as the Broadwood Park Estate.
In the first couple of years in the 70s there was a huge sign on the Honda corner advertising Twentieth Century City. This was the old Crotty farm, Broomfield, which is now the Tullamarine Industrial Estate. A road directory of the time shows Moore Rd extended to Fosters Rd. with Erebus St. and Kingsford Smith Drive running between it and Sharps Rd. Keilor Council had been forced by planning protocol to grant permits for this area despite being aware of its unsuitability, because of lack of consultation between the Dept. of Civil Aviation and the M.M.B.W. (which was the only body with the authority to ban housing). Rezoned from rural to residential on September 1966, it was purchased by D.D.Schoenbergs Tullamarine Syndicate in October 1967 with the encouragement of the M.M.B.W. and the state government. However, after spending $630 000 for sewerage, water mains and other development by June 1968, the syndicate voluntarily refrained from selling house blocks, which they were legally entitled to do, because of a warning from D.C.A. in May 1968 to halt development.(Minutes of evidence to the Commonwealth Parliamentary Standing Committee on Public Works 1971 re proposed development of runways etc).

The Progress Association had ground to a halt in the early 1960 as families moved away, with their farms having been taken for the airport, or stalwarts, such as Alf Cock who had been an office bearer since its inception in 1924, just plain growing old. In the mid 1960s, the T.P.A. was given a new lease of life by triangle residents such as Leo Dineen, Ron Langtip and Sid Hedger.
The October 1965 Annual Meeting was attended by: Leo, Ron, Sid, H.Hutchinson, Ben Kelly, Ken Boots, Sid Wheller, K.Tyler, W.Walden, M.Kerschbaumer, David Axon, I.Romaniw, N.Royle, Ian McNab, D.L.Morgan, J.A.Paul, E.F.Bray, W.H.Ruszowski, C.McClusky, N.Potter, L.Heskes, Les McClusky, D. Garnar, P.&A.Murray.
Other early members, and the year of their first meeting, are:
1971. GIBB

As can be seen, the greatest influx of members occurred in the mid-60s. At this time there were plans for three different halls in Tullamarine. The original committee consisted of members of the Heaps, Nash, Henderson, Morgan, Thorburn, Craig, Swartz, Eddy, Denham, Rhodes, Crotty, Thomas, Doyle and Cock families with Walter Murphy as Chairman. It had received Health Dept. approval and a Broadmeadows Shire permit in 1957 but as the foundations were being poured it was announced that a jetport was to be established in the area and that the recreation grounds were within the area required as Walter Murphy put it in a letter to Tullamarine Progress Association secretary, Leo Dineen, on 3-5- 1966.
Walter went on to say that when it became apparent in 1965 that the reserve would not be required, the committee again approached the council. In a previous reply to Leo on 20-7-65, Major Murphy, as he was commonly known,stated that the hall would cost 4000 pounds, that council assistance was likely and that a change of plans would further delay the work. The change of plans was probably a request for the hall to be built further south, as by this time the post office was on the triangle and the school on Dalkeith with the majority of Tullamarines population now living south of Greens Corner.
The letter of 3-5-66 mentions a T.P.A. request for the money raised to be used for building a hall ¾ mile away and the difficulty raised by the request because so many of the old people who donated money had died or moved away. An enclosed legal opinion from Messrs Podem, Blaski & Co. stated .. it would be illegal to utilise money raised for a hall on the Recreation Reserve for the purpose of erecting a Public Hall on another site, even on one only ¾ of a mile away.
On 28-6-66 the T.PA. set up a provisional hall committee comprised of Ken Boots, Len Garnar, Ben Kelly plus the secretary (Leo) and President (Sid Hedger?). It was realised that fund-raising would be difficult after many residents had contributed to two hall funds which have not been fruitful.
The second fund, raised to build a hall on the Carol Grove Reserve, had collapsed but proved to be the key to a solution. Leo and the President met Mrs Kelly (Ruth?) and the treasurer of the Triangle Committee, Mr Bray, on 28-2-1967 and suggested that their money be donated to Major Murphys committee to allow commencement of that hall; Mr Bray undertook to send a circular to residents to gauge their approval of this plan, which he clearly supported.
It was Len Garnars suggestion that residents be asked to support a 20c per week donation scheme and support it they did. The Tullamarine Community Hall in Spring St. was officially opened on Saturday, 15 August, 1970.
In 1971, these were some of the people keeping Tulla ticking:
MOTHERS CLUB- PRES. MRS.J.ALLEN, SEC. MRS. DORIS RORKE.(who planted the garden around the school buildings.)
The position of secretary of the hall committee also involved being booking officer which is a great job if you enjoy talking to people- at all hours of the night. Bev Large took over this role for several years before moving to Romsey and was followed by Barbara Newland. The Hall Committee had representatives from all the groups which used it and it was because of this that Jan Hutchinson, a Brownie leader, became involved. She has served so long as booking officer that Im sure that even Caterpillar would now forgive her pigging-out indiscretion in 1960! Leo Caton was a wonderful worker in the early days of the hall, almost single- handedly transforming a mere shell into an attractive, well- equipped function centre.

.Tullamarine has grown tremendously over the last twenty years Those of us who can remember that far back can also remember the open paddocks and the chatter of the Americans who were living in the area while the Airport was being built. (The Theresa St. area was developed to accommodate them. R. Gibb) The cows from the nearby Moonya dairy used to graze on the open paddocks which now are occupied by the houses in Micheline and Dawson Streets. It was not unusual to wake up in the morning with a cow peering in your window.
Many sporting teams were started by some of our energetic residents. One such club which came into being in the late 60s was the Tullamarine Little Athletics Club.. Some of those who played a major part in getting the Tulla club started were the Dineens, later to become the mayor and mayoress of Keilor, the Langtips, Petersens, Bennetts, and Bradleys. Later on there were the Masons Frys, Halls Aylmers, Allisons, Rentons, Gibbs and Kerschbaumers.
(John wrote much about the merit of every child in little aths. being rewarded and the long-lasting friendships which developed through the club as well as apologising to anyone hed left off his list of stalwarts.)

This popular community newsletter, published monthly by the Progress Association and the Youth Club was just one of the things the Dineens got off the ground. Leo and Shirley probably had purple fingers and unwanted highs after nights spent working on the old spirit duplicator which was used at first but they would have had little trouble compiling news from the various organisations; they were on most of them. When I took over as editor, a more advanced spirit duplicator was housed at the house of Youth Club stalwarts, Trev. And Val Mason. A year or so later, Peter Ogiers expertise gave the Sonic a more professional appearance with a fancy coloured letterhead. Some of the busy typists who helped in this valuable community links production were Pat Street, Kaye Caton, Val Mason, Bev. Large, Barbara Parker and Pam Dosser.
Yearly T.P.A. membership collections helped to finance the Sonic but advertisers helped too. They included:Chris & Venus Koutsovasilis (milk bar), Ross Scaffidi (greengrocer), John Osborn (chemist), Elaine Jones, G&C Camping Gear (17 Theresa St.), Moonya Farm Dairy, Tullamarine Plant Farm (Sid Wheller, 8 Sharps Rd.), Tulla Self Service, Chris & Helen Dzolis (milk bar on Spring St cnr.), Tulla Hardware, Joe & Ivan Kaytar (engineering), Ampol Service Station (Clarke, at cnr. of Sharps & Lancefield Rds.), Mobil Service Station (Peter Woods), Alan Kirby (T.V. repairs, 3 Fisher Gr.), Delicatessen & Milk Bar (next to butcher, Noel, Charlie &Marcel Zeidan), Electrician (5 Londrew), Removals (Noel Grist-the Kindergarten Associations first life member), Jeannies Driving School, Niddrie.

The November 1973 issue of the Sonic mentions:
Many lawns being overgrown. Leo Dineen, Cr Ernie Angel, Leo Caton and myself visiting the airport to discuss the aircraft noise problem with bush- basher, Leo Caton, getting bogged in Derby St on the way home. Vice Principal, Alan Hewitt, coming to the rescue when a house in Eumarella St. lost its tiles. The Kindergarten Associations Dinner Dance, Paper Drive and film festival, Gordon Henwoods civic spirited action, the eyesore north of the newsagency. Mrs Dianne Goodalls thanks for Sonic and applauding the many community activities. Convenor, Leo Dineens notice of a meeting on 14 November to form a tennis club with those unable to attend being asked to contact Leo or Jeff Chivell. And the Youth Clubs football, gymnastics, ballet, table tennis, guitar classes, cricket, and basketball. The Progress Association Committee consisted of C.Warne (P), R.Gibb (S), Cr. Dineen, R.Watts, I.Romoniw, K. Critchley, L.Garnar, L.Caton, and Bev. Large (A.S.). Thanks were extended to Ron Langtip for his long service as Treasurer and the retiring President, Leo Caton. Elected to the Hall Committee were: Bev Large, Ruth Kelly, Pat Street, Rhonda Lilly, Len Garnar, M.Rogan, G.Lofts, C. Warne, Reg Pryce, J.Young, Ray Cannon and L.Dineen. T.P.A. requests included vehicles not entering the proposed Derby St development (Ansair) via Derby St, the M.M.T.B. to extend their services to Gladstone Park and a sign and historical board to be placed at Greens Corner.
The November, 73 issue continued a history of the early days of the youth club, which I will quote.
Well there we were,a totally inexperienced committee of ten people (Mr Stephen Wenczel had by then been introduced to and accepted onto the foundation committee.)
However, lack of experience was well compensated for by the enthusiasm shown by all.

SATURDAY, 21st JUNE, 1969.
The day started very early for some. Bread, donated by a Coburg bakery,had to be collected. Also a portable gas stove on loan from friends in Essendon, frankfurts from Flemington, drinks from Ascot Vale.
At 8:30 on the dot, Brian Bennett was loading his trailer with portable goal posts, footballs, basketballs, tug-o- war ropes etc.
Activities began at 9 a.m. Children! They were everywhere. Brian Bennett, Cr. Leo Dineen, Martin and Tom Allison and Stephen Wenczel volunteered their time to coach the boys at football. Christine Kennett, Dianne Tucker and Jenny Dinsdale led girls in basketball (netball). They were assisted by Mrs. Smith,a senior basketball coach.
The hot dog stand proved an outstanding success. By the time the last one was dispensed, the toilers, Mrs. Muscat and Mrs. Allison were in a state of collapse. The children also accounted for 12 dozen soft drinks. This is a quote from the Keilor Messenger which started early in June 1969, Editor, Cec. Rowlands was giving the club a much appreciated burst of publicity. Indeed he continued to do so for as long as we supplied him with material. Mr Keith Johnson M.H.R., a former Broadmeadows councillor, was in attendance and offered to help the club in any way possible. At this stage activities were free. The Clubs sole source of income being special efforts, the hot dog stand and donations. (If I remember correctly, Val Mason was writing this history; it is typical of Trev and Val that their names are missing!)
News and issues mentioned in other issues of the SONIC follow:
April, 1973.
Children riding mini bikes on footpaths. Cyclists riding near shop doorways. Design of the Kindergarten was underway and steps were being taken to rezone the Dawson St. site.Council officers had been instructed to contact the C.R.B. re alignments to spreed up the commencement of construction of Fosters Rd. (Keilor Park Dr.). Work on Broadmeadows Rd. would start when Fosters Rd. was finished. People were asked not to park on the service road at the Melrose Dr. shops as it endangered children going from the (mud/ dustbowl ) car park to the shops.


The treasurer, Rhonda Kuflik and her husband, Richard, were thanked for putting up with a backyard full of bottles for so long; as they wanted a lawn, the bottle drive had now ended. (I seem to remember Bev Lindsey using her garage as a drop off place on nominated dates after this.)

Thanks to Monica and Frank Place and Faye and Ron McDonald for donations. Presentations were made to the children with the Sextons, Howes, Bants, Posts, McFarlanes, Eriksons, DAgatas and Lillys being among those not mentioned previously in connection with Little Aths.(Incidentally, Carey Hall who was a junior footy champ and handy at aths. became an international cyclist.)
Little Aths. was still part of the Youth Club at this stage.

Jenny Godber was to be the new ballet teacher and the committee was comprised of Mesdames Croce, Aikas, Taylor and Pereira. The T.Y.C. football committee consisted of John Pearson (P), Ray Lofts (VP), John Petersen (TR.), Marty Allison (Sec.), John Hall, John Amott, John McDonald and Wayne Whiting; retiring officials, Ken Boots, Don Tudor and Ken Davies were thanked for their efforts. Jenny Savill, Kerri Pearson, Billy Keegan and Anthony Armstrong represented the club at a Government House function. Local children who assisted in the Red Cross Doorknock were Pam Rossely, Debra Kovac, Ian Scown, Brendan Mason, Robert Pezeli, Grant Tudor, Colin and Randall Todd and Steven Collins.
In presenting cricket trophies to Anthony Armstrong, Phillip Briggs, David Jones, John Bennett, Stephen Davies, John Wenczel, Peter Daniel and Mark Pearson, Cr.Cliff Harvey spoke glowingly of the service given by the late Sid Hedger and Ivor Anderson after whom shields had been named. President, Ken Boots, thanked coaches and the committee.
Jenny Abdillas gymnastics classes were popular. Volleyball would be starting soon.

May, 73 SONIC.
A Personality of The Month article featured Leo Dineen. Grandson of the Tullamarine S.S. 2613 teacher in the 1920s (and an early Progress Association auditor and committee member), and son of a teacher, Leo settled in Tullamarine in 1961. Seven years later, he moved to Theresa St. Having joined the Progress Association in 1962, Leo started the SONIC in 1963 and served many years as T.P.A. Secretary in the 1960s.
Inaugural President of the Keilor Little Athletics Centre, trustee of the youth club and a member of just about every committee in Tulla, Leo conveys hosts of noisy young footballers to games in his station wagon as well. First elected to Keilor Council in 1967, Leo served as Mayor in 1970-1. His close co-operation with the Progress Association has led to better lighting, the service road in front of the shopping centre, the Triangular Estate drainage scheme, and the Spring St. drain being undergrounded. To come in the near future are a pavilion, sealed car park,a storeroom added to the hall and other sporting facilities.
His wife, Shirley, the proud mother of Mike 12, Tricia 10, Tony 8, and Kevin 5, is also very active in Little Athletics activities as well as coping with her young family while Leo spends nearly every night of the week at meetings.

Kindergarten Association.
For the second month in a row over 2 tons of newspapers has been collected. The Gala Day on Queens Birthday will feature a womens football match, again, a bike-a thon, and pony rides (provided by Peggy Ball).

Tullamarine Volleyball Club. Wednesdays 8:30- 10:30. Ph. 338 4148 for details.

BALLET. Mrs Barbara Potter, liason officer, has not been mentioned yet.
CONTACTS. Little Aths.-Shirley Dineen Cricket- George Armstrong
Football-Marty Allison Gym.- Mrs Pomroy
Badminton- Betty Davies Volleyball- Ray Gibb
Table Tennis- Steven Baric Ballet- Sandra Taylor
Prospective new activities- Trevor Mason
A teacher is wanted for guitar classes.
Thanks to Ian McFarlane, Wayne Martin, Cyril Milne, Frank Place, John Hall and Trevor Mason for assistance with the weekly special effort.
Basket Supper Dance 30th June. Ticket secretaries- Ian McFarlane, Val Taylor, George Armstrong, Barbara McColley, Ronnie Crawford.
First round of footy- best: U9. N.Allison &C. Hall. U11. M. Allison, J. DAgata, E.De Francesco

AROUND AND ABOUT. Milton Cooper (Boxer) and Paul Sproule (footballer) are two residents having success in sport. Greenvale reservoir opened on 18-4- 1973.

The last document of this era that I have found is the Kindergarten Association Annual Report of 19-3- 1973. It gives some insight into the activity taking place at the time, both to raise funds and make Tullamarine a community. It is unsigned but I am sure that Sandra Braun was the Secretary.
We are now about to enter our third year...This past year has been marked by many and varied functions.Ben Halls bazaar..was also affected by bad weatherThe early part of winter seemed to be the time for demonstration parties.
The highlight of the year was without doubt the Gala Day held on Queens Birthday weekend. All members of the committee co-operated very well to make this day the outstanding day it no doubt was, but special thanks are given to Mr. Ray Gibb who donated so much of his time towards making this day a function to be remembered. There were stalls set up inside the hall and afternoon tea was provided also; however during the morning the local children took part in a runathon which raised a considerable amount of money, then the parents and other interested people enjoyed a barbeque whilst the children queued eagerly for hot dogs and pony rides! In the afternoon much hilarity was seen at the ladies football game against the lady members of the local youth club, who took the field under the name of Masons Mashers.September was again a busy month for the committee with a baby show and a fashion parade. Thanks are extended to Mrs. Elaine Cardona for all the effort she put into making the baby show a success- and it only went to show how many babies there were in Tullamarine.and thanks are extended to Mrs. Lyn Milley who undertook the organising of the successful fashion parade. ..Early in November there was a luncheon showing of the Myer spring catalogue and all who attended expressed their enthusiasm. Two street stalls were held and thanks are given to those who man the stall and local residents who donate the wonderful cakes which are no small part of the success of such stalls. Cookery books were typed , run off and sold.
During the latter half of the year Mr. Ray Gibb and Mr John Storey organised several paper drives and bottle collections. Thanks are extended to both and especially to Ray, for the immense amount of work involved in the paper collections. Also we must thank the local husbands who assisted, and Mr. Noel Grist for the frequent use of his furniture van for removal of the papers to the depot.
As regards the bottle collections, thanks must be given to our President (Bev. Cassar) and Treasurer (Rhonda Kuflik) who have done most of the collecting alone and even risked a fracas with the garbage collectors to make a few extra dollars for the kindergarten. Toy parties were held shortly prior to ChristmasThe local chemist Mr.J.Osborn was nominated to pick the winner which turned out to be a committee member!
Everyone in Tullamarine will agree that the year was finished with a rousing send off at the Community Centre with our first ever cabaret ball. Socially this was about the most successful function ever held by the Association and the thanks for this must go to Mr. John Storey who not only worked to make the administrative arrangements a success, but also took time off work to assist in decorating the hall.
Financially this year has been extremely successful, but this is due in the main to the wonderful support received towards our weekly donation campaign, which is nearing its final stages now. Especial thanks are given to all our tireless workers who unfailingly give of their time and efforts each week, and we must also thank the local residents who have so willingly donated this money. It is thanks to these people that our bank balance now stands in excess of $3,500. (This amount would have bought a house block in Tulla in 1971!)
During the year we regretfully accepted the resignation of our inaugural President Mrs. Deanna Johnson, who due to family circumstances, moved back to Queensland. Rhonda Kuflik has been an able and energetic treasurer. I know I speak on behalf of all committee memberswhen I express our very sincere thanks to our President, Beverley Cassar, who stepped into Deannas shoes when she left and has unfailingly given of her best to make sure the various functions are a success.
(Three people who worked hard for the kindergarten were Alan Kirby, Carol Wright and Doug Fraser, especially in the paper drives. Maureen Leahy also gave great service, as did Bev. Lindsey who was also a prime mover with the scouts.)

As sure as women gossip, Ill leave somebody off the list but chats with Frank Thom, Maureen Leahy and Bev Lindsey today have oiled my rusty memory.

SCOUTS. Penny and Wayne Killen, Dora and Trevor Still, Cliff Staggard, Mick Dowell, Ivan Gellie, Molly and Eric Allen, Stan and Ellen Wright, Gary and Bev Lindsey, Ian McFarlane, Gordon Henwood*, Pat Pieroni, Bob Ratten, Bill and Audrey Walden, Frank Thom, Ross and Ron McDonald (unrelated), Mal Fry, Dawn Torode, Ivy Lilly.
KINDERGARTEN. Ian Goudie (who also gave the football club long service as a trainer and served it as secretary), Bill Collins, Roy Hollis, Ron and Anita Dawson, Prue Hicks, Ron Farrugia, Graeme Smith, Doug Fraser, Mike and Heather Keenan, Richard & Annette Benson, Mike & Dianne Leahy.
SCHOOL. Doug Fraser, Kevin Jones, Ray Lofts, Vivien Sutherland (canteen), Doris Rorke (garden), Reg Pryse, Peter Gordon, Ray Gibb, Frank Thom (sprinkler system).
GUIDES. Mrs Gregg. HALL COMMITTEE. Ray Cannon.
(*Without Gordon's help in 1988 I would not have been able to start my historical research!)

Tullamarine Progress Association.
The minutes book reveals some of the communitys concerns.
19-4-73. Airport noise, poor state of road shoulders near railway bridge.
17-5-73. Drains in Lancefield Rd. north of Greens Corner.
21-6-73. Police station needed.
19-7-73. Stop sign at Carrick Dr, flat policy and Tadstan Dr. sewerage requested. Residents asked for suggestions re renaming Lancefield Rd.
15-11-73. Council workers strike for eight weeks. With the approval of state union secretary, Neil Cole, Ray Gibb organises a collection of Tullas maggot- ridden garbage. With Dave Calders truck and collectors such as Carol Wright and Dieter Behrendt, after a threatening confrontation at Keilor tip, all of Tullas rubbish was disposed of.
21-2-74. Police asked to supervise traffic leaving drive-in. Lancefield Rd. beautification (mounds).
Railway station requested near Caterpillar.
21-3-74. Need to solve traffic problem near bridge before Cadbury Schweppes opens. (It opened in January 1975.)
18-4-74. Cleaning of Spring Creek needed.
20-6-74. Whistling noise from Frozen Foods is annoying residents.
18-8-74. Sewerage in the Malvern Avenue area.
31-10-74. Kindergarten Association asking for temporary use of hall.
4-12-74. Slowness in installing requested stop signs due to need for traffic counts say the councils. Fence needed for creek in Dawson St.
28-3-75. Lack of action by Keilor City Council re storage room for hall. Ron Langtip and Cr.Gibb attended the first meeting of the Keilor Park Progress Association.
26-5-75. T.P.A. presses for duplication of the railway bridge. Oval at Spring St. to be ready for next football season and the pavilion by Christmas. Youth Club Storage shed. (It was placed about where Tulla players enter their change rooms.)
28-8-75. A special meeting is held so that ward councillors Dineen, Tagell and Gibb can explain why they, with Crs. Hall, Free and Heinze, called for the sacking of Keilor Council. Municipal Administration Inspector, B.C.Kellehers report in September confirmed claims about council officers: attempting to discredit councillors and the Town Clerk, having suspicious land dealings, responding Bullshit to a statement in a meeting by the Town Clerk with the Mayor taking no action. He also stated that the Mayor had not exercised the degree of authority necessary to maintain even reasonable control over meetings. The guilty officers had sided with the City Engineer in a power struggle with the Town Clerk some years earlier, as had the councillors with whom they were conspiring.

By this time, Tullamarine was filling up and most of the facilities, such as the library in 1978, had been provided. This meant more time could be spent in the home and the frenetic hard yakka, which had developed Tulla so quickly, was no longer necessary. But those who shared this toil have fond memories of mates and achievements.

The tyre service south of the K.F.C. site and the frequent black-smoke fires.

Social basketball on the outdoor court at Spring St. and then at Niddrie High.

Youth Club Basketball teams playing at the Showgrounds (teenagers such as Kevin Morrison playing open age) and later younger lads at Morgans factory in the creek valley.

Youth Club Coffee Nights every Friday night until mid 1978.

The first under 13 football team starting games at about 8:30 every Saturday morning with Jeff Chivell as Coach, Noel West and Ted Jennings as officials and Betty Davies providing 100 decibel support.

The houses that used to be where the Melrose Drive Shopping Centre is now.

The open drain that ran through the Spring St. Reserve; the children used to have great fun chasing rats.

Tullamarine- Ascot Vale, coached by Ken Newton and with a nippy young rover named Robbie McDonald, playing at the Melrose Dr. Reserve in about 1972 before moving to Fairbairn Park. This club merged with Essendon Baptists- St. Johns with the new club commencing at the newly- finished Spring St. oval and immediately setting about smashing Douttas E.D.F.L. consecutive A Grade premierships record. The oval was constructed by Frank Thom who served the scouts, School and Kindergarten well: his wife Carol was a member of the Kindergarten Association committee. Those who contributed to the five consecutive A Grade flags were: A.BENT 75-9; P.OWEN 75-9; T. HOPE 75,6,8,9; T.HERSBACH 75-9; A.FISCHER 75,6,7,9; J.GLEN 75-9; S.SPARK 75-9; G.OBRIEN 75-8; A.DELALANDE 76-9; R.McDONALD 75-8; B.PATERSON 75-6; A. PATERSON 76-8; G.PATERSON 76-8; J. ANDERSON 76-8; P.WHITE 77-9; P.MUTIMER 75,6,9; I.LUMSDEN 75,7,9; S.DAVIES 77-8; R. PARKER 76-8; G.HARRISON 75,8,9; B.TREGONING, S.BORDINGNON, C.SMITH, J.BORDIGNON(C.C.), C.FRASER IN 1975; J. FLETCHER, R.WOODS, R.JONES 1976; L.FROST, D.LOVECOTT, M.PEARCE, J.WELSH 1977; P.SMITH, G.LARKIN 1978; J.EDWARDS (COACH),M.CLARKSON,A.SIMIC,T.LAVERDE, J.POTTER, M.DUNCAN, K.ROBERTS 1979.

Peter Owens dazzling play for Tulla. For one who couldnt get a game in the under 17s, the level of skill and determination he displayed was amazing. He coached the last two premiership sides and coached Strathmore to the next years flag.

Tullas miraculous effort to come back from a seven goal deficit in the last five minutes and win the B Grade flag under Gary Cranes coaching in 1981. The clubs other B grade premiership was won with Graeme Harrison at the helm in 1993.

Of course I forgot some workers. Here are the ones Ive recalled already.
Alma Prest (Guides) and her husband, Gordon (school committee).
Linda Smith (Sonic typing and Guides)
Heather Keenan (Hall booking Officer between Bev Large and myself)
Frank Townsend ( Teenage Coffee nights )
Doug Troon (Teenage Coffee Nights) and Glenys (Brownies).
Colin and Grace Miller (Stalwarts of Neighbourhood Watch for ages.)
Ray Scicluna (Kindergarten committee)
Spouses such as my wife,Val Gibb, and Charlie Cassar etc. who gave much behind the scenes support.

(Unfortunately this had to be summarised due to limited space.)

One of the most remarkable community achievements resulted in the building of the Tullamarine Hall. Keilor Council agreed in 1967 to build a hall if the community raised $4000. The Progress Association hall committee, led by Len Garnar, asked each resident for 20c per week which was collected from the meter box every Sunday morning, mainly from the Triangle Estate and the area near Gordon St.

One of the identities of the era was Ben Kelly. Often seen working in his vegetable garden in the early hours of the morning and returning to his home at the Tadstan Dr. corner, in his uniform of blue overalls and army coat, with a wheelbarrow of purchases from the shopping centre, as Progress Association president, Ben demanded punctuality and at 8 p.m. a line would be ruled in the attendance book to indicate that any further signatures were of latecomers. (Much more on Ben in Before The Jetport.)

The early meetings of the Progress Association (formed at a meeting convened by Tom Loft in 1924) were held on the first Monday night of the month MOONLIGHT PERMITTING.

The organiser of the 22-11-1998 reunion was one of the hardest workers for the community but arrived at a council meeting one night appearing as though he had gone five rounds with a crocodile, having been forced off the narrow Fosters Rd. bridge by a speeding car.

Tullamarine in 1960.
A milk bar/ garage (Greens Corner) at the corner of Mickleham and Bulla Road.
Housing only as far west as Gordon St. and Christopher Crescent, with other houses past Tadstan Dr. and on the Triangle Estate.
Unmade streets on the Triangle with stagnant water in poorly drained gutters.
One small Infant Welfare Centre off Carol Grove.
No Broadmeadows Rd. School as the old school (S.S.2613) was in its last year of operation at the Conders Lane corner. (Nth. Corner of Link Rd. and Melrose Dr.)
NO hall, tennis courts,kindergarten,doctor, chemist, sporting teams, youth club or sewerage and only a couple of shops.

Did you know that the architect of the original pavilion building designed the Great Southern Stand at the Melbourne Cricket ground? His name. Darrel Jackson.

by bluestonedreaming on 2012-02-06 04:01:54
That is fascinating and fantastic amount of info! woow thanks!
I googled ben kelly quickly and found a trove piece that mentioned him. He sounds a character form your descriptionindeed! He must have been on t he land opposite me, as i am the east corner of melrose and tadstan(closest to broadmeadows Rd0. Units are popping up everywhere, i am a little sad all the houses are being purchased and demolished. looks like the house next to northedge units (next to 7-11,the old Greens corner i now know) has been sold in readyness for more units.So between my place and ht eocrner, i notice on my walks thta one house remains - obvioulsy quite strong to resisit the real estate harassment i imgine. i have had cold callings even at my unti form Agents tryign to entice to sell! Such is "progress" eh?

How interesting that some things have changed yet others not! there is still so much talk of a railway,now propsed behind my parents house in Churchill Ave, alhtogh many believe it won't eventuate. Reading about a station once asked for at Caterpillar factory is interesting, as my family an dI have often discussed some kind of action group to get a station there. Also there was talk of *if* the train line eventuted behind Churchill and onto th eairport (proposing underground station and tus,perhaps partly under the gorund through those paddocks..which are rapidly being eaten up by fatcories built ont he once designated land of clearance / no buildings by the airport), we would try to rally for a station for Tulla at the veyr least! it would make sense at Caterpillar now what with Westfield being right there and the gowanbrae estate flourishing.

Very sad on people losing life sacings on investments. My parents lost house deposit savings when first married to a man who "sold" thme land in lancefield thne fled with the cash back to ireland ! Grandparents led a life of poverty due to hard earned savings being lost in a similar fashiomn. Very sad those things happen.

i wonder what Walter Murphy would htink of melbourne's second airport finally eventuating at Avalon when he fought so hard for it to be THE Melbourne airport!

Sewerage probelms gosh!!! We have had small sewerage and drainage problems on this block of unit shere at Tadsrtan drvie ove rth elast decade, how curious.

WHat a shame your suggestion of aero names for local streets was not taken on board! however, I do appreciate the names along melrose knowing they come form history and the farms thta wer eonce there named accordingly. I ma curious as to what tadstan Drive is named after? everythign else seems to have a family name or property name as street name, so I am curious to know if you can enlightne me on Tadstan?? have mused if it was part of a reference to Stanhill?
by itellya on 2012-02-06 06:22:25
The house next door to North Edge was Major Murphy's. It should be preserved and I intend to write a letter to the Hume Leader about this.
You could be right in your theory about Tadstan Drive being linked to Stanley Korman. The maps on pages 196 and 197 show land purchased by Korman's companies between 1954 and 1959. The first shows that he bought land right up to Hughie Williamson's "Dunvegan", by then owned by Hill, and confirms that he indeed purchased Strathconnan and Denham's land (now Catherine Ave and Trade Park.) You will notice that Broombank and the 18 acre Junction Estate (to Londrew Court)are not included in either map.
Ray Loft had subdivided Broombank in 1952, most likely along Millar Rd (named after his wife's family) to start with. My reason for believing this is that, at this time, the centre of activity was still to the north with the school at the Conders Lane (Link Rd) corner and the post office on the site of Henderson Rd until, (perhaps late) 1959. Perhaps Korman purchased the Tadstan Drive portion in about 1960 to join onto "Strathconnan".
Incidentally, Strathconnan is shown as having been purchased from Kay but the owner's name was actually Kaye. He was probably a Pole (like Ilko Romaniw and others on the triangular estate)and when he first bought Strathconnan his name was recorded in rate books as Kowarzic. He was the manager of Australian National Airways until Reg Ansett took it over to form Ansett-A.N.A.
by itellya on 2012-02-06 06:30:44
I forgot to mention that there is not even one white pages entry for TADSTAN, residential or business! The only result on google for TADSTAN (apart from street names) is an entry in the Cairns Post which is so blurry that the surname might not even be Tadstan. There are streets in Clayton South and Donvale with the name.
by bluestonedreaming on 2012-02-08 07:02:34
i do hope Majot Murphy's house can be prserved! i do recall seeing a very small red placard asking for objuections to be submitted to the ocuncil ,maybe in december? All the trees along the fence shared with Northedge have been removed. I have laways liked that house,it's roses and concrete fornt fountain.

Interesting Tadstan missing from the white pages. I noticed as I checke dout many of your melway refernce shere on the net, tadstan drive is missign from the initial look at pg 5. Odd.
by itellya on 2012-02-18 03:54:14
I made a mistake about Bridget Madden being Maurice Crotty's daughter. She was his sister. This mistake will be corrected in bold type in the journal when I have time. I will also be adding information about the Maddens in this journal and the one about the Inverness Hotel. The Maddens were related by marriage to the Daniel family of Narbonne.
by jadethan on 2013-07-30 18:53:31
I have a photo of old Tullamarine taken around 1960 or perhaps earlier. It looks like it was taken from the top of the old drive in screen. I can send it to you if you can provide an email address.

My family lived at 76 Broadmeadows Rd from 1953 till the 80's or later. My mother Ruth Kelly was involved with the Tullamarine Progress Association for a long time. There was a thermometer in the window of Garner's newsagency for quite a while showing how much money had been raised to build the community hall.

My father, Frank Kelly, ran a welding shop behind the service station at the corner of Bulla and Mickleham Rd's in the 50's and early 60's. I believe the original service station was the same building that used to be the old pub which, legend has it, was once frequented by Squizzy Taylor.

I can remember picnicing by the creek when the western side of Broadmeadows Rd was largely farmland. There used to be a nice spot where it ran under Sharps Rd and there was a stand of large pine trees providing shade. It's just a dip in the road now.

My eldest sister could provide a lot of information on what Tulla was like back in the 50's and 60's.
by itellya on 2013-07-31 12:13:33
I knew Ruth and her mate, Rhonda Lilley well. They loved badminton and were heavily involved with the Hall Committee.Do you remember the putrid burning tyres in the yard near the shops? Cec and Lily Green ran a garage/shop in the old Junction Hotel and one day had a visit from a retired policeman who showed them a bullet that lodged in a door when the police tried to arrest Squizzy Taylor.

Mom worked briefly at the drive in canteen.. also at Dugans chicken farm... then at TAA in the technical library... her boss was Mr Harvey who also lived in Tulla. She was a teacher at Niddrie High School for many years too. And here is Alena Karazija's story in her own words.

Early days in Tullamarine
Early in the 1950s my father took me to Airport West, as far as the tram would go. We then walked to the bridge over the railway and my father said: "See those big trees over there? That's where I put a deposit for your block.
That block was in the Triangle Estate, part of a new subdivision of farmland, The address was Lot No. 9 , Bulla Rd.
Father also put deposits on several blocks for his friends, because in those days we tended to keep close to friends, like a substitute for our lost homeland. The full price of our block was 100 pounds. My brothers was a corner block, so it cost 120 pounds.
There was no water, no sewerage, no gas and no footpaths, so it was not surprising, that the others sold their blocks very soon.
We desperately wanted to build our home, but had no money. My husband went from Building Society to Building Society trying to join one, but you could only join, when a new one was being formed. Finally he found one, but was told the block had to be fully paid off first, so we borrowed the enormous sum of 100 pounds. With that out of the way, we were allowed to pay the 3 pounds fee to join the Society and that was the deposit for our home!
By the time we started building, there were still no amenities, so a watertank was part of the building contract .If you get water in the meantime, I will put in an electric stove of your choice instead of a watertank, said the builder.
The block at the time belonged to the shire of Keilor, and there we got our building permit. As the frame was being put up, a building inspector came and ordered us to pull it down, because the outer walls were only 8 feet high. The building regulations required all walls to be 9 feet. We had 10 feet middle walls and a sloping ceiling together with the roof , but that did not cut any ice with the inspector. Lucky for us, we found a by-law which permitted one 8 ft. wall, if the room was built into the roof. I went to the Council and argued that our whole house was built into the roof! After several trips and arguments, we were permitted to go on with the building. Some months later I noticed a few more buildings being built into the roof
One day my husband saw workmen digging trenches in the road. They were for the waterpipes for the new airport! And what about the residents?, asked my husband. All the residents will get water as well, was the answer. Hurrah! We shall have our stove!
We had to get to know the area. The first to make contact was our 4 year old son Algutis. In no time there were several boys running around; none spoke English, but all communicated perfectly in German, Dutch, Hungarian and Lithuanian. A Scottish boy introduced them to English.
There were no neighbours next door, but a few doors away was a milkbar (still in the same place!) and further on a greengrocer more like a market stall, than a shop. But at the end of the street , about where the hardware shop stands now) was a real corner shop. One could buy a newspaper and postal stamps, a jumper, fresh meat and groceries. The proprietess, Mrs. Garnar, was an institution : she knew the people, and who was looking for a job and who could offer one. She also knew what interesting activities were held in the neighbourhood and informed the people.
Going the other way towards Sharps Rd., was a house with a plaster stork in the front garden. The children enjoyed going for a walk to look at the stork.
There was a fairly large expanse between our house and the road, and in the mornings we often found cows grazing and looking in through the window. When we built fences, we sometimes saw families sitting outside our front fence having a picnic.
A short while later Don Williams started building a house next door to us, and moved in with his family. That was a lucky day for us, because they turned out to be the best neighbours imaginable.
Behind our block there was nothing no houses far and wide, just large paddocks and a very small creek running in the middle, providing us with flies and mosquitos. However, a perfect place for our older boy Vyt to build and fly model aeroplanes.
In front of our house, just beyond the road, was a little pond. Our boys would go there and catch yabbies. Little field mice used to come into the house, Algutis would catch them and let them run outside.
Once a year there used to be a Gymkhana at Thomas Barn. We did not know the people, but everybody was welcome and no introductions asked for. (Only a few years ago I was introduced to Mrs. Thomas. What a surprise for me! I always thought she was Mrs. Barn).
Once a year on Guy Fawkes day all the residents grabbed whatever spare wood they had and gathered at a big paddock for a bonfire. After the merriment at the bonfire,the very popular local celebrity Major Murphy would come and entertain everybody with his skilled display of fireworks, which we never wanted to end. Ah, Major Murphy! Not only was he a civic minded man, doing a lot for the community, but also not above helping kids with their model aeroplanes or inviting our Vyt to go fox hunting with him.
Every Friday we watched an old man with horse and buggy go past our house to Victoria market We only stopped seeing him when the Tullamarine freeway was built. I heard he was stopped on his way and not allowed to go that way.( Or it may have been just a rumor).
Tullamarine kept changing gradually. In 1972 I came back from a long holiday and could not believe my eyes: our street, from Broadmeadows Rd. to Sycamore Ave., was paved, the sewerage laid on (and we could build an indoor toilet!), footpaths and kerbs made. The changes came about because the shopkeepers complained about the dust in the food shops. There were no shops beyond Sycamore Ave., so the residents were told they had to pay for the paved road, if they wanted one. We were the lucky ones.
Tullamarine has changed even the main street name. Our address changed from Lot 9 , to Bulla Rd., then to Lancefield Rd., then finally after many aviators names were suggested, it became Melrose Dve, without us moving from the spot. A service road was built and a huge pile of rubbish piled between it and the main carriage way. It looked horrible, but very quickly the rubbish was covered with earth and planted with grass, shrubs and flowers. Now we had quite a nice street and did not live on the main road any more.

The garage on Greens corner is still there, but the chicken farm on Mickleham Rd. (opposite Gladston Park) is gone. The old school, of which our younger son was the 547th enrolled pupil in 1957, has been demolished and a new school was built a couple years later in Broadmeadows Rd., on the former paddock behind our house. The trees, planted around the new school by its students, are growing strong. The dairy farm, where we used to buy fresh, unpasturized milk every day, is gone. The drive-in theatre, opposite the Tullamarine shopping centre, (free entertainment for kids sitting outside) was built , used and demolished for housing. Little landmarks, like the Dutch windmill near the railway overpass, has disappeared. And now our family has left Tullamarine as well, but pleasant memories remain.
Im 91 now and life goes on.
A. Karazija

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I am often prompted to write a journal by something I read in an old newspaper on trove. The spur for this journal was an article about fly-fishing on page 15 of the Sunday Herald Sun of 12-2-2012. I quote: 'Trout were introduced into Australia in 1834 by Edward Wilson, editor of the Argus newspaper,"to provide for manly sports, which will lead Australian youth to to seek their recreation on the river's bank and mountainside rather than in the cafe and casino."

Geoffrey Searle and K.B.Keeley would have been delighted with that bit of trivia but would have been quick to point out, as I now do, that Edward did not arrive in Australia until 1841. Keeley would probably have added that the importation would have been in 1854 when Wilson was enjoying the peacefulness of "Arundel" at Tullamarine.When he was retiring as editor of the Argus, he recommended 10 or 12 mile rides to his successor; this would be the distance from the Argus office to "Arundel" via Keilor and Bertram's ford. In his A.N.U. biography of Edward Wilson, Geoffrey Searle mentions that Wilson became a model gentleman farmer at Keilor but does not name the property or explain what model farm meant. He also gives little detail about James Stewart Johnston, Wilson's original partner in The Argus.

I will not give any detail about Wilson's life story because Searle covers it all.My focus is on local history. I will paste some information from K.B.Keeley's architectural thesis on Arundel, circa 1961 and from Tony Cockram, owner of Arundel Farm, circa 1990. Wilson's squatting and newspaper partner James Stewart Johnston established the Craiglee Winery, across Sunbury Rd from the Goonawarra Winery (established by Francis, a fellow politician) and just east of the Jacksons Creek crossing, (Melway 382 H5.) The bluestone building he had erected 1865-8is shown on the Victorian Heritage Database, Heritage overlay number H.O.58.

MODEL FARM. The description "model farm" could mean good fencing and buildings, the use of modern equipment or experimentation such as H.B.Slaney's trials with superphosphate on "The Ranch" at Moorooduc. In the early days, the term was used in conjunction with acclimatisation, a movement started in Victoria by Edward Wilson. I think I can remember one of the McCracken letters referring to the zoo as the Model Farm. No doubt, as pointed out by Keeley, Edward Wilson'a aims on Arundel were those listed on the website called VICTORIAN ACCLIMATISATION SOCIETY.

SECTION 1, known in early days as the Glengyle Estate, went west from the most northerly point of Annandale Rd to the river. Its northern boundary is indicated by Localiser Rd (Melway 4 K10) and the southern boundary by a western extension of Sharps Rd, except that the farm originally known as Glengyle (Guthries) and Ellengowen (Bertrams)which became the blocks in Browns Rd were also in section 1.

This was granted to Richard Hanmer Bunbury who obtained it by selection and paid 907 pounds, one pound per acre. Bunbury, after whom streets in Gladstone Park and Williamstown are named, became harbour master and chief of water police. Later owners were Colin Campbell (1843), Donald Cameron (1851), Edward Wilson (1853), Robert McDougall (1868) and Robert Taylor (1889). Wilson, Argus editor and a leader of the acclimatisation movement, had a virtual zoo on the model farm as well as importing crops to trial and breeding chinchilla rabbits. He sold Ellengowen (Browns Rd area) and Turners (south of the e-w section of McNabs Rd). McDougall was the expert regarding the Booth strain of shorthorn cattle but had only contempt for the Bates strain of which his western neighbour (in section 23 Doutta Galla), Henry Stevenson was a devotee.
In 1904 Arundel was resumed by the Crown and, in 1910, J.B.McArthur bought lots 21, 22, 3 and 4, a total of 291 acres 3 roods 25 perches. This included 112 ½ acres north of Wallaces Elm Grove as well as the homestead area enclosed by Arundel and McNabs Roads. Owner of Hosies hotel in the city, McArthur was Moonee Valley Racing Clubs first vice president from 1917 and, I believe, succeeded the first chairman, Alister Clark, following the latters death in 1949. He was also involved in the Oaklands Hunt Club which often enjoyed hospitality at Arundel farm. Other longtime Closer Settlement pioneers were Cock, Wallace, McFarlane, Fox, Hassed, Birch and Brown.
Later owners of Arundel Farm were: Arthur Wilson (1925), Frank Smith (1935), W.S.Robinson (1949) and W.W.Cockram (1962.) Robinson unfortunately remodelled the façade of McDougalls graceful 1872 homestead in 1950. (K.B.Keeleys architectural thesis C 1963 and Tony Cockrams notes re ownership.)

The two photos below are from K.B.Keeleys thesis. They show (a) the Arundel homestead in which Edward Wilson lived and (b) the homestead built for McDougall and shown during the ownership of J.B.McArthur, who often hosted Oakland Hunt Club members. See P.100 of The Oaklands Hunt by D.F.Cameron- Kennedy for a better view.
The photos could not be pasted but are in Keeley's thesis, a copy of which I put into the (safekeeping???) of the Hume Library when leaving Tullamarine.

One final point. Mornington's first motorised fire engine was provided by the EDWARD WILSON TRUST.

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Drowned at Broadmeadows, on the 18th instant,William, aged 3 years and 3 months, third son of Peter M'Cracken, of Stewarton. (P.4, Argus, 20-10-1852.)

It was nearly twenty five years ago that I discovered in Broadmeadows' rate records that my great grandfather, John Cock, started leasing Stewarton in about 1892 and that in the next year or two the name of the farm changed to Gladstone. Stewarton was section 5 in the parish of Tullamarine and consisted of 785 acres according to the parish map which records George Russell as the grantee. The oldest available ratebook was that of 1863 and Maconochie was assessed on 777 acres. This shows that Broadmeadows Rd (now called Mickleham Rd)had been made along the 8000 link frontage between the Lackenheath Drive and Forman St corners and was one chain wide,exactly accounting for the loss of 8 acres from the property.

It was a few months before my discovery about the name change that I read A.D.Pyke's THE GOLD THE BLUE,a history of the Lowther Hall school in Leslie St. in Essendon. Ealsbrae, the historic house in which the school started was built by Peter McCracken's son, Coiler (named after Peter's father in law, Coiler Robertson of La Rose.) Mr Pyke,a teacher at the school, mentioned that Peter had a farm in Moonee Ponds called Stewarton. I racked my brain for ages trying to work out where in the parish of Doutta Galla it might have been. So you can imagine my Eureka moment when I discovered that my great grandfather's farm,bounded on the east and partly on the north by THE MOONEE PONDS (named after an aborigine,which I discovered only days ago)had been Peter McCracken's farm.

Coiler McCracken had married Margaret, daughter of James Robertson. Peter's brother-in-law was James Robertson, (son of Coiler of La Rose) who had arrived as a 17 year old brewer and may have been partly responsible for the success of the McCracken brewery. Another James Robertson owned Gowrie Park at Campbellfield (north of today's Hadfield.) This was getting ridiculous!

My second (very long) eureka moment was provided by Deidre Farfor of Malvern. I think Deidre was referred to me by the Broadmeadows Historical Society's Jim Hume but any help I managed to give her was a drop in the bucket to the help that Deidre provided to me. Genealogical details about the Gibbs and Robertsons of Campbellfield (and the Coupar link), about the family of Peter McCracken's wife (La Rose/ Trinfour),and Deidre's own Robertson family (Upper Keilor/Mar Lodge/Aberfeldie.) But most of all, countless pages of photocopies of THE MCCRACKEN LETTERS.

There were three McCracken brothers, Robert (on whose Ailsa paddock,on the north side of Kent St,Ascot Vale,the Essendon Football Club played its first seasons), Peter,and Alexander Earle McCracken,who leased William Hoffman's Butzbach (east of Hoffmans Rd and halfway to Lincoln Rd) for most of the 1850's and was at the forefront of what became the Royal Agricultural Society until his wife's ill health forced a return home.

Many of the letters were to Alexander Earle McCracken and sent from Peter's Ardmillan in the SUBURB of Moonee Ponds. However there were earlier letters, about the sorrow caused by the drowning of young William (and how the infant had walked part of the way to the school in Broadmeadows Township with his older siblings),Peter quitting Stewarton in 1855 (after nine years there) because Neil Black (the real grantee)had not got back to Peter about extending the lease,and the dairy at Kensington being unprofitable.

I recently made a comment about itellya actually being a team and Deidre was one of my first team mates!

When I was writing the McCracken entry in JOHN THOMAS SMITH AND HIS ELECTORS over two years ago, I had been reminded about the drowning when I discovered that Peter Young of Nairn in Bulla had taken the chair in 1852 at a meeting (to honour David Duncan, grantee of the central,major part of Melbourne Airport) because of a domestic tragedy in Peter McCracken's family. I don't know how but I actually found the death notice that starts this journal. As my aim that night (morning!) was to finish the Young entry, I filed it in my memory bank for the next day. I did not find the notice. In the last week,I tried again, once more without success.

Tonight, while half-watching TV, I decided I'd check family notices of the 1850's re Broadmeadows to make sure I hadn't forgotten any township pioneers. I saw this.
Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 20 October 1852 p 4 Family Notices
... MARRIED. At Melbourne, Port Phillip, by special license, on the 16th instant, by the Rev Irving Hetherington, minister of the Scots' Church, Agnes Bell to Mal- Mal colm Troubridge. DIED, Drowned at Broadmeadows, on the 18th instant, William, aged 3 years and 3 months, ... 63 words

Why had McCracken, Stewarton and McCracken, Broadmeadows produced absolutely no results? ANSWER. M'Cracken! Using this spelling of the name, the contents of the letters can be confirmed on trove and correct my faulty recollection of the time of the haystack stack fire on the dairy at Kensington; the fire had occurred after Peter's move to Ardmillan. James Hyslop (Victoria and its Metropolis biography) may have been looking after the dairy at the time.

CRIMINAL SITTINGS. TUESDAY, APRIL 15. (Before his Honour the Chief Justice.)
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 16 April 1862 p 6 Article
...wis was found " Guilty" of having set fire to a haystack, the property of Mr. Peter M'Cracken, at Kensington, on the 9th March. The facts of the case were fully reported recently in our columns, in connexion with the burning of a wooden bridge across the Essendon Railway, near Kensington station.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 26 June 1857 p 5 Article
...RES OF CULTIVATED LAND. We award the prize in this class to Mr. Peter M'Cracken, for his farm of Kensington, Mains, containing about 130 acres. We found this farm very well and regularly ploughed,

Poor Peter had no more luck with his fourth son.
On the 15th instant, of croup, John, aged two years and seven months, fourth son of Peter M'Cracken, of
Ardmillan, near Essendon.(P.4, Argus, 16-4-1860.)

I wondered about the location of Peter's dairy at Kensington and this curiosity led to my EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA. I had supposed that it would have been near McCracken St but it was actually bounded by Footscray Rd,the road to Raleigh's Punt, the private Essendon Railway to the south east end of Bellair St and Swamp road (known today as Kensington Rd,Macaulay Rd, Bellair St and Dynon Rd.)Peter's lease would have ended soon after the haystack fire and as he had no desire to renew it, the Cox family started its 20 year lease from J.R.Murphy of the former dairy and the rest of the Kensington Park estate extending to Lloyd St.

(Extract from SECTION 2.)
This land, bounded by Macaulay Rd, Dynon Rd, and the lines of Lloyd St and Hampden Rd, was granted to John Robert Murphy at about the time he was granted a 2 acre block at the south east corner of Stubbs and Parsons St in 1949.
Allotment 17 was leased by Anah Lewis for 14 years. Allotments 18 and 19 were leased to A.E.Brodribb for 14 years but it is known that by 1855 the 132 acres comprised all or part of McCrackens dairy. (McCracken may have been leasing the crown land west of Rankins Rd too.)
In 1855, Peter McCracken quit his lease on Stewarton (Gladstone Park) and lived on the dairy while his mansion was built on Ardmillan in Moonee Ponds. In 1861 a fire burnt all the haystacks and by the end of 1862, Peter was thinking of giving up the dairy because the grass was poor and it was costing more for hay than the milk was worth. Soon after, James Hyslop, who had worked for Peter since 1858, was out of a job (P.233 Victoria and Its Metropolis).
When Anahs lease finished, and McCracken quit his dairy, the whole 198 acres was leased by cattle salesman Samuel Cox. He probably fattened cattle and sheep on it. Pigs might have been kept there too by pork butcher, William Samuel Cox. Three years later, in 1867, W.S.Cox took over the lease, and in 1872, he extended it for five years with an option of another five years. In 1871, hed moved from Abbotsford St to Kensington Park. The KENSINGTON PARK RACECOURSE commenced operation in 1874. The racecourse was situated partly on E.B.Wights portion of allotment 20 as shown by the map on the next page. When it closed at the end of 1882, Cox took out a lease on, and then bought, Feehans farm (now called Moonee Valley Racecourse).

(Maps can be emailed to M'Cracken and Cox researchers. Send me a private message.)


While I was looking for William's death notice, I noticed other area pioneers such as poor McFarlane and decided to write a journal about non-township residents.


BRYANT. (Possibly Bryan.)
CONTRACTS ACCEPTED. Isaac Bryant, 44 pounds for eradicating thistles at Broadmeadows. (P.5,Argus,19-12-1857.)

John Crowe died fairly early in the district's history and although Mt Yuroke (like Mt Gellibrand) was downgraded from a mountain to a mere hill, the locals honoured his memory by calling it Crowe's Hill and this became the name of a farm on the hill. Rate collectors, obviously thinking the hill was named for big glossy black birds that made rude Graham Kennedy-like calls, invented their own version,Crow's Hill.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 19 January 1857 p 8 Family Notices
... Funeral Notices. THE Friends of the late JOHN CROWE, Esq., are respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, this day, Monday, the 19th instant. The Funeral procession to move from his late residence, Mount Yuroke, at ten, passing Broadmeadows etc.

Richard Gage of Broadmeadows was granted a carrier's licence. (P.6, Argus,26-5-1859.) See my journal SOME FARMS IN BROADMEADOWS SHIRE etc.
James and Daniel Milne of Broadmeadows were also granted carrier's licences. Was Darren Milne,a pupil at Tullamarine in the 1970's, descended from one of these pioneers?

"Greenvale" has always been associated with John McKerchar who is discussed extensively in Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY and GREENVALE :LINKS WITH THE PAST by Annette Davis. It was crown allotment Q of section 10,consisting of 328 acres on the north side of today's Somerton Rd,which was 748 metres west of Mickleham Rd and extended 810 metres farther west and 1.62 kilometres to the north.The property between Greenvale and Mickleham Rd,crown allotment 9P, was called Greenan and was associated with John McKerchar's brother,Donald. John and Donald McKerchar were co-grantees of both 10Q and 9P but there is no date on the parish map.(google "Yuroke,county of Bourke.)

Edwin Gill's property was most likely 10Q. Trove seems to be useless in determining when John McKerchar settled on Greenvale,so let's consult DHOTAMA. My suspicion is that John and Donald McKerchar had received their grants
by 1854 when Edwin and Greenvale were first mentioned in tandem and were jointly developing Greenan while leasing Greenvale to Edwin.

DHOTAMA, page Mc.55.
McKERCHAR, John, Broadmeadows, is a native of Perthshire, Scotland,who landed in Melbourne in January, 1840. He acted as a shepherd at Moorabool and on the Wimmera for seven years with Austin, McPherson and Taylor and was afterwards for 15 months with Dr. Drummond on the Merri Creek. Then in partnership with his brother,he opened the Crown Hotel on the corner of Queen and Lonsdale Streets,Melbourne; and conducted it for three years at the end of which time he purchased land and settled in his present home of 365* acres at Broadmeadows ...etc.

(Jan. 1840 + 7 years +15 months+ 3 years=Jan. 1851+ 3 months=April 1851 if the above description is correct.)
This would allow three years for John to erect a Greenvale homestead before Edward occupied it. Was Edwin just a lessee or perhaps a relative of the McKerchars? Was Edwin related to Dr.W.R.Gill?
*Broadmeadows rate records show that Greenvale consisted of 328 acres (10Q exactly) in 1879-80 and 300 acres in 1900 and when Alex. Millar,who renamed it "The Elms",was leasing it in 1920.

On Sunday morning, 27th inst., in Melbourne, at the residence of D. R. Long, Esq., Arthur Edwin, the only
and beloved child of Edwin Gill, Esq., of Green Vale, near Broadmeadows, and late of Richmond.
( The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 29 August 1854 p 4 Family Notices.)

EAST BOURKE.A meeting was held at the Broadmeadows Hotel, Broadmeadows, on Wednesday evening, Donald Kennedy, Esq., was unanimously voted into the chair, and briefly introduced Mr. Cooper to a numerous assemblage. The candidate went into the leading subjects now occupying public attention, and at the close of his address answered satisfactorily numerous questions touching the impolicy of devoting large sums of money for railways, until the roads of the colony were rendered passable; reserved to himself the right to form his own judgment
on the expediency of appointing a minister for agriculture as a separate department of Government; was in favor of local road boards.

Numerous other questions being disposed of, Edwin Gill, Esq., moved, and Donald M'Kerchar, Esq., seconded, a motion to the effect, "That Mr, Cooper is a fit and proper person to represent East Bourke in the Legislative Assembly," which was carried unanimously. A vote of thanks, passed by acclamation to the chairman terminated the meeting. (P.5, Argus, 30-8-1856.)
Dr.Patterson of Flemington claimed that Dr. Gill was responsible for the death of a woman and despite Dr Barker
(who was perhaps the most prominent doctor in early Melbourne and a pioneer at Cape Schanck, who fought with Maurice Meyrick of Boniyong (Boneo)in Victoria's second duel)vindicating Gill in the post-mortem report, Chandler suggested that a charge of manslaughter might be in order. Dr. Gill's complaint against Chandler gives an indication of how distance, circumstances and the inability to be in two places at once might lead to charges being laid against the most dedicated and skilled medical practitioner.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 5 January 1859 p 5 Article
INQUEST.-Yesterday, Dr. Candler held an inquest, at Broadmeadows, ... desired olfeot, was repeated on Monday. She still continued ill, and on tho 80th December Dr. Gill, of Broadmeadows, was sent for. He came and prescribed for her.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 13 January 1859 p 6 Article
... CORONERS AND THEIR PROPER FUNCTIONS. TO THE EDITOR OF THE ARGUS. GILL, beg to lay before you as ... obedient servant. W. R. GILL, Member of the Royal College of Surgeons of England, Licentiate of the Victorian Medical Board. Broadmeadows, January 9.

At St. Kilda, by the Rev. Wm. Miller, Thomas Fairbairn, Farmer, Pentland Hills, third son of Andrew Fairbairn, Primside, Roxburgshire, Scotland, to Margaret Grant, second daughter of Lachlaine Grant, Broadmeadows.
(P. , Argus, 31-10-1856.)

The western boundary of Broadmeadows Township was named Hackett St. It was never made because traffic using Tullamarine's Lady of the Lake as a landmark would travel to the north west boundary of Stewarton, turn right (Forman St), and immediately veer left into Turner St taking them to Ardlie St where the 1854 timber bridge connected to the portion of the street in the parish of Will Will Rook. Near the Broadmeadows Hotel they would join travellers using the original route to Sydney (passing Pascoeville's Young Queen Inn) for the "steep pinch" up the Ardlie St hill to where it met Mickleham Rd.

From 1869, those approaching the township from the parish of Tullamarine had a new stone bridge accessed via
Fawkner St and after crossing the creek,they would turn left to climb the Ardlie St hill. From shortly after W.W.1. they would turn left at THE WAR MEMORIAL. This and the lamp lit by young Jack Hoctor were in the middle of the road. As motorised traffic became more powerful, the memorial was a hazard and caused congestion so it was moved by Major Murphy of Tullamarine to the town's old windmill site where it stands today.

Eventually, after a century,with Hughie Williamson's old Dunvegan being developed as the heart of the new Greenvale (the new school retaining the number of the former school at the north end of Section Rd, i.e. 890)and traffic increasing dramatically, Hackett St was made and with Broadmeadows Rd (from Tullamarine Junction) was renamed as Mickleham Rd.
(Sources: the late Jack Hoctor and Harry Heaps; George Lloyd's MICKLEHAM ROAD 1920-1952;
Township of Broadmeadows, Parish of Will-WIll-Rook, County ... - Slv;)

Hackett St was named after the presiding magistrate of the District Court. See STABBING AT BROADMEADOWS,
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 16 November 1855 p 5 Article.

The original route to Mickleham Rd through the township and bypassing the unmade Hackett St can be seen in the Keymap of the first edition of Melway.

On the 26th inst., at Lonsdale-street Congregational Church, by the Rev. Thomas Odell, Mr. Alexander Prain, of Campbellfield, to Miss Mary Hendry, of Broadmeadows. (P.4,Argus,28-3-1857.)

(John?) Hendry was the post master at Tullamarine in 1864 but the rate collector did not seem to know this until 1867. Because assessments were listed geographically,it is highly probable that the post office was on or near the site of the present 711 service station (formerly Mobil.)

Some Hendry boys later appeared in court for misbehaviour at the local pub. (I can't remember if it was the Beech Tree or the Junction,the latter on the 711 site.)Here it is.
North Melbourne Advertiser (Vic. : 1873 - 1894) Friday 5 October 1883 p 3 Article
... and Filson, J's.P.) Alexander Hendry, James Hendry Joseph Jackson were charged with using obscene language on the 30th September at Tullamarine. RIichard Glazer, licensee of the Bench Tree Hotel and Richard Craven of the Junction Hotel stated the prisoners canme to their respective houses at one ..

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 4 July 1855 p 4 Family Notices
... special license, by the Rev. Thomas Odell, James Purvis*, of Tullamarine, to Christina Hendry, youngest daughter of Mr. James Hendry, of Perth, Scotland. ... 94 words

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 23 April 1864 p 6 Article
... Gap - James Baring, the Gap. Tullamarine - James Hendry, postmaster. Tullamarine. Wyndham - Thom ... 459 words

*Thomas Purvis bought lots 14, 27 and 28 of John Carre Riddell's Camieston Estate (Melway 5,partsF-G 8) with frontages to the west side of Wright's/Heaps' Lane (today's Springbank St) and the now-closed continuation of Derby St. Thomas also bought about 10 acres* of today's Trade Park Industrial Estate (Melway 5 parts F-G8), very close to the Hendry residence,which would explain how James met Christina. (*Volume 30 folio 772.)

Michael Paul Henessy, Victoria Hotel, Broadmeadows. Granted. (P.6, Argus, 16-4-1856.) Hennessy didn't last long. PUBLICANS' TRANSFERS. Michael Paul Hennessy, Victoria Hotel,Broadmeadows, to John Bryant : granted.
(P.6, Argus, 5-12-1856.) Bryan(t)may have pulled a swifty because he had twice been refused a licence for his Tanners/Farmers Arms.

Philip Ryan, for an aggravated assault on Police Constable King, at Broadmeadows, was sentenced to one month's imprisonment with hard labor.(P.4,Argus,28-1-1858.)

Andrew Lemon's prologue to his BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY, set in 1857, involves a severe falling out between Constable King and his superior,Senior Constable McCarthy. Dr Weston,attending the latter's sick child, witnessed King's "You be damned and go to hell.You know as much about a horse as I do.Go and clean him yourself!"


On the 15th inst., at her brother's residence, Stewarton, Broadmeadows, Margaret, daughter of the late
Alexander McConochie, farmer, Buteshire, Scotland, aged 30 years.(P.5, Argus, 16-9-1858.)
Peter McCracken was on Stewarton from 1846 to 1855 and it is likely that John McConochie, who was assessed (as Maconochie) in the oldest available ratebook (of 1863) was the next tenant.

Death and funeral notices for the six year old son and 21 year old daughter are the only results for the family or the property, Strathoer. Can you find two reasons that the following letter was not one of the results?
To the Editor of the Argus,
Sir,-I think it my duty to inform the public, through the medium of your journal, that no census-paper has ever been left with me or my adjoining neighbour, and I have no doubt that many are in the same position.
I am, dear Sir, yours, etc.,JUSTICE. - Strathore, near Broadmeadows, 4th May, 1857. (P.5, Argus, 5-5-1857.)

THE Friends of Mr. WALTER MACFARLANE, of Strathoer, near Broadmeadows, are respectfully invited to Follow
the Remains of his late Daughter to the place of interment in the New Cemetery. The funeral to move from Bignell's Family Hotel, Cardigan-street, North Melbourne, this day, Monday, the 29th inst., at eleven o'clock.
JOHN SLEIGHT, undertaker, 71 Collins-street east ._126 (P.8,Argus, 29-9-1856.)

On the 17th inst., at St. Kilda, of congestion of the brain, Dugald, eldest son of Walter Macfarlane, of
Strathoer, near Broadmeadows, aged six years and one month.(P.4, Argus,18-10-1856.)

Although Strathoer ,being described as "near Broadmeadows" was most likely a farm, a member of the clan (with scribbly initials)received the grant for a crown allotment at the top of Fawkner St. (See township map.)

William Mackintosh, of Broadmeadows, clerk. Cause of insolvency-The pressure of a creditor who has caused the insolvent to be arrested. Liabilities, £122 ; assets, £6 ; deficiency, £117. Mr. Laing, Official Assignee.
(P.6, Argus, 29-10-1859.)


William Mitchell, charged with fighting at Broadmeadows, was fined 10s., and 10S. costs.
(P.1s,Argus, 25-11-1858.) William was probably related to Peter Mitchell who received grants for many blocks in roadmeadows Township. See my journal SOME FARMS IN THE SHIRE OF BROADMEADOWS etc.



STONEMASONS.-TENDERS WANTED, for BUILDING a stone OUT-HOUSE, Apply Robert Shankland, Euroke, Broadmeadows.
(P.7,Argus, 8-10-1859.)

Yuroke was often rendered as Euroke. Robert's farm, Waltham,will be discussed in my journal, SOME FARMS IN THE SHIRE OF BROADMEADOWS. I don't think it was a stone dunny! Robert's 1888 biography in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS claimed that in 1852 he built the original portion of Dean's Hotel at Moonee Ponds (today's Moonee Ponds Tavern on the south corner of Dean St near the racecourse.) My EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA
(not a journal)contains title information about his purchase of the hotel's site.

THIS powerful cart stallion will stand the season at Mr. Samuel Thorpe's farm, near Broadmeadows, on the Moonee Ponds, ten miles from Melbourne. This horse gained the prize at the Midland Agricultural show in Van Diemen's Land, as the best stallion in the Island. Brilliant was got by that celebrated imported horse Lincoln, out of an imported Lincolnshire mare, is now rising five years old, and allowed to be the best cart horse ever imported to this colony.(P.1, Argus, 6-11-1850.)

To Farmers, Stockbreeders, Carriers, and Others. Important Sale of Stock and Farm Produce.
LILBURNE, ANSLOW, and Co. will sell by auction, in consequence of the expiration of the Lease, on the farm of Samuel Thorpe, Esq., at Broadmeadows, formerly known as M'Nall's farm, ten miles from town, on Friday, 8th February, at twelve o'clock sharp,
All the produce, consisting of 3 stacks hay, horses, cattle, poultry, implements, &c, as under :
200 tons hay, in 3 stacks 100 bushels wheat 100 do barley 1 entire draught horse by Blythe, warranted 9 first-class draught horses 15 well-bred milch cows 8 young cattle 1 winnowing machine Ploughs Harrows Carts Bullock-dray Roller, together with the whole of his farming implements, not enumerated. (P.2, Argus,31-1-1856.)

I have found no mention of McCall prior to 1850 but 10 miles is a clue to the location of Thorpe's farm. Due to the yield of hay, I would presume that the farm was part of the Glenroy Estate. Samuel might also have been leasing part of Riddell and Hamilton's Camieston Estate. (See the Camieston Estate journal re its location.)

J.Weston Esq. had been appointed public vaccinator for Broadmeadows.(P.4,Argus,31-10-1857.) See KING.



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After purchasing three lots of the section 13 subdivision,if William Trotman and his wife Kezia lived at
Tullamarine,however it was not for long as they moved to Springvale.By 1867, Mrs. Trotman was widowed,and she sold a total of seven lots (another four had since been purchased, a total of 42 acres) to Walter Clark
of Glenara (Moloney & Johnson, 1998)
(Historic Sites Assessment - Department of the Environment

Now I don't list every one of my sources as professional historians do, but if I do make an error,such as calling Peter Blom "Percy",I will correct it. The following is fact.

William Trotman was the purchaser of lots 1-4 in John Pascoe Fawkner's land co-operative's subdivision of the southern half of crown allotment 13A, Tullamarine. These FOUR blocks,bought on 1-10-1853 (Volume 171 folio 346) front the south side of the east-west runway and extend south about a third of the way to the bottom of Melway 4 G3. SPRINGFIELD, not Springvale,was the longstanding name of the farm in Euroke/Yuroke between Glenarthur and Mickleham Rd,of which the northern half later became the Gamble family's "Brocklands" (purchased recently for Aitken College)and the southern half,as French Rd indicates, Wal. French's dairy farm.

TROTMAN -On the 1st inst, at Tullamarine, Mrs Joseph Trotman of a daughter; both doing well.
(P.4, Argus,4-2-1862.)

TROTMAN.--On the 15th inst, at Tullamarine, after a long and painful illness, William T. Trotman, aged
fifty-seven years. Gloucestershire papers please copy. (P.4, Argus,24-3-1864.)

SWANNELL-TROTMAN -On the 1st inst, at St Peter's Church, by the Rev. H. H. P. Handfield, James Swannell, of Essendon, to Sarah, second daughter of the late William Trotman, of Bulla Bulla. Gloucestershire papers please copy.P.4, Argus,25-11-1865.)

If I remember I.W.Symonds' BULLA BULLA correctly one of the Swannells married a Dean and people with both surnames were buried at St Mary's at the south west corner of Woodlands. When Walter V."Major" Murphy relocated the church (crumbling because of aircraft-caused vibrations) to Bulla circa 1971,their remains were reinterred in the Bulla Cemetery. OOPS,IT WAS STANDEN,NOT SWANNELL!

Let's have a squiz for TROTMAN burials.

2134 TROTMAN Aubrey Horace 3Y2M 00/00/1877 05/08/1880 07/08/1880 Meth. 1 1 Son of Joseph Trotman & Elizabeth Celia Stanlake. Born in Broadmeadows, Victoria, Australia.
2135 TROTMAN Clifford John 33Y 00/00/1911 00/00/1944 00/00/1944 Meth. 1 22 Son of Leonard Robert Trotman & Ida Mary Vincent. Born in Essendon, Victoria, Australia. Memorial only - buried in Germany.
2136 TROTMAN Edmund Atholstan 'Athol' 79Y 00/00/1890 09/10/1969 13/10/1969 C of E 8 21 Son of Thomas Robert Trotman & Elizabeth Bethell. Born in Greenvale, died in Brunswick, Victoria, Australia.
2137 TROTMAN Egbert William 4Y 00/00/1884 25/08/1888 28/08/1888 C of E 8 28 Son of Thomas Robert Trotman & Elizabeth Bethell. Died in Moonee Ponds, Victoria, Australia.
2138 TROTMAN Enoch 26Y 00/00/1840 05/03/1867 19/07/1972 C of E 8 20 Son of William Timbrel Trotman & Emma Keziah Williams. Died in Bulla, Victoria, Australia. Enoch was first buried in the grounds of St. Mary's Church of England, Bulla and was transferred to the Bulla Cemetery when St. Mary's was relocated.
2139 TROTMAN Ethel 11W 00/03/1873 28/06/1873 29/06/1873 Meth. 1 1 Daughter of Joseph Trotman & Elizabeth Celia Stanlake. Born in Yuroke, Victoria, Australia.
2140 TROTMAN Leonard Robert 53Y 00/00/1882 30/04/1936 02/05/1936 Meth. 1 22 Son of Thomas Robert Trotman & Elizabeth Bethell. Born in Greenvale, died in Richmond, Victoria, Australia.
2141 TROTMAN Maud Sylvia 4Y 00/00/1896 00/02/1901 05/02/1901 Meth. 1 2 Daughter of Arthur Bertram Trotman & Josine Augusta Fredda Vonerx. Born in Broadmeadows, died in Melbourne South, Victoria, Australia. Name not recorded on grave.
2142 TROTMAN Thomas Robert 80Y 00/10/1857 04/06/1938 06/06/1938 C of E 8 27 Son of William Timbrel Trotman & Emma Keziah Williams. Born in Bulla, died in Canterbury, Victoria, Australia.
2143 TROTMAN Wilfrid Robert 52Y 00/00/1910 00/03/1962 27/03/1962 Meth. 1 22 Son of Leonard Robert Trotman & Ida Mary Vincent. Born in Broadmeadows, died in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
2144 TROTMAN William Timbrel 57Y 00/00/1806 13/03/1864 19/07/1972 C of E 8 20 Son of William Trotman & Unknown. Died in Bulla, Victoria, Australia. William was first buried in the grounds of St. Mary's Church of England, Bulla and was transferred to the Bulla Cemetery when St. Mary's was relocated.
2145 TROTMAN (nee ?) Ida 79Y 00/00/1885 01/03/1964 00/03/1964 Meth. 1 22 Daughter of John Turner Vincent & Sarah Anne Dunstan. Born in Coburg, died in Kew, Victoria, Australia.
2146 TROTMAN (nee BETHELL) Elizabeth 77Y 22/04/1858 16/12/1935 17/12/1935 C of E 8 27 Daughter of William Bethell & Frances Barker. Born in Bulla, died in Camberwell, Victoria, Australia.
2147 TROTMAN (nee FROST) Irene May 97Y 00/00/1888 13/01/1985 17/01/1985 C of E 8 21 Daughter of Raymond Nicholl Frost & Emma Jane Collings. Born in Sandhurst, died in Essendon, Victoria, Australia.
2148 TROTMAN (nee VONARX) Josephine Augusta Fredaricka 33Y 00/00/1870 14/05/1903 15/05/1903 C of E 9 28 Daughter of John Michael Vonarx & Ann Grossmein, wife of Arthur Bertram Trotman. Died in Broadmeadows, Victoria, Australia. VEI incorrecly records death under surname 'FREDRICKA'.


TROTMAN.---On the 5th inst., at his residence, Springfield Farm, Broadmeadows, Enoch, second son of
the late William Trotman, of Bulla Bulla aged twenty-six. Blessed are the dead that die in the Lord.
(P.4, Argus,23-3-1867.)

Before Joseph Trotman decided to trot, man,he was a successful farmer on Peter McArthur's grant, Glenarthur, now covered by the western half of today's Greenvale reservoir (Melway 179 B-C 5-7.)

A summons was issued yesterday by Mr Call, P M , against C R Smith, the manager of the National Labour Exchange, 40 Lonsdale street east, charging him with having obtained the sum of 12s 6d from a man named Thomas Harigan by menus of false pretences. It appears that Hangan arrived in the colony by the s s John Elder, and was engaged by Smith to go to Broadmeadows, to work on a farm at 17s 6d per week, and for doing this Smith charged 12s 6d. He gave the man the following memo addressed to Mr Joseph Trotman, Broadmeadows -

'The bearer, Thomas Harigan, is a competent farm hand, and is engaged for you by your orders to bag chaff and fork hay, "c , wages 17a fld per week He has paid his fee, so be sure and give him a fair trial -C li. SMITH "
Harigun went out by train to Broadmeadows, and walked to Mr Trotman's farm, when he found be was not required Mr Trotman endorsed on the memo , "I do not require a man just now. I did not tell you to send anyone." Hangan returned to town yesterday morning, and reported tho affair to Mr Cull, who granted the summons, and the case
will be heard in the City Police Court tomorrow. (P.6, Argus, 18-10-1883.)

My apologies regarding correction of digitisation. The article was actually on a following page and there was no FIX THIS TEXT link. Why did Joseph Trotman not require a worker? He was hot to trot!

Mr Henry Stevenson reports the sale to Mr Joseph Trotman, of Broadmeadows, of Mr John Jones's estate, Wangaratta, consisting of 1,335 acres, having a frontage of six miles to the Ovens River, at £5 15s. per acre-£7,078.(P.6, Argus, 11-10-1883.)

This John Jones was most likely related to Joseph by a recent marriage.

JONES-TROTMAN -On the 11th March last, Harry,eldest son of H. B. Jones, Esq., of Fitzroy, to Ada,eldest daughter of J. Trotman, Esq., of Glenarthur,Broadmeadows. (The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 24 June 1882 p 7 Family Notices)

MACFARLANETROTMAN.On the 9th inst., at Waldara, Wangaratta, by the Rev. J. H. Macfarlane, B.A., Archibald Martin Macfarlane, M.B.,youngest son of the late J. A. Macfarlane, Brighton, to Alice, third daughter of J. Trotman, J.P. (P.1, Argus,26-9-1885.)

TROTMAN. On the 14th ult., at Glen Arthur, Yuroke, the wife of Mr J. Trotman, farmer, of twin sons. All doing well.(Illustrated Australian News for Home Readers (Melbourne, Vic. : 1867 - 1875) Saturday 12 September 1868 p 14 Family Notices)

TROTMAN. On the 20th September, at 316 Lygon street, Carlton, tho wife of Mr. Joseph Trotman, of Glen Arthur, Euroke, of a daughter.(Illustrated Australian News for Home Readers (Melbourne, Vic. : 1867 - 1875) Wednesday 6 October 1875 p 159 )

At the ordinary meeting of the council of the shire of Broadmeadows yesterday, Mr.Stevenson, of Tulloch, was elected president for the ensuing year by a unanimous vote.Mr. Stevenson, having briefly acknowledged the compliment, proposed a vote of thanks to Mr. Trotman, the retiring president after two years' service. The motion was unanimously adopted. (P.6, Argus, 26-8-1876.)

Just in case you're wondering,the above was referring to Joseph.(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 4 August 1875 p 8 Advertising JOSEPH TROTMAN, President. Glenarthur, August 3 1875, SHIRE of BROADMEADOWS) Later,other members of the Trotman kept up the tradition of municipal service.
TROTMAN.-- On the 13th May, at her residence "Latch Wood," Glenroy, Josephine Augusta Freda, the dearly loved wife of Councillor Arthur B.Trotman, aged 33 years 10 months.(P.1, Argus,15-5-1903.)

TROTMAN -On the 6th Inst, at Glen Arthur, Broadmeadows, Aubrey Horace, beloved son of Joseph and Celia Trotman, aged three years and two months.(P.1, Argus, 7-9-1880.)

TROTMAN. On the 4th inst., at Waldara, Wangaratta,Osmond Ernest, twin son of Joseph and Celia Trotman, aged 24 years.
" Though Thou hast called me to resign
What most I prized, it ne'er was mine ;
I have but yielded what was Thine.
Thy will be done."
(P.1, Argus,7-6-1893.)

TROTMAN.- -On the 10th June at Waldara, Wangaratta, the wife of Joseph Trotman Esq JP,and mother of Mrs.Seymour Fergie of Mon Sejour, Brunswick street, Fitzroy, after a severe illness. (P.1, Argus,11-6-1897.)

TROTMANKERR. On the 25th October, at the Parsonage, Lonsdale street, by the Rev. A. R.Edgar, Joseph Trotman J.P., of Waldara, Wangaratta to Margaret Grace, widow of the late John Kerr, J.P., of Kerrsland, Broadmeadows,
and only daughter of the late Rev. John Currie. (P.1, Argus,6-11-1897.)

TROTMAN.-On the 7th April, at his mother's residence, St Helen' s, Boomahnoomoonah, result of an accident, William Trotman, aged 43 years. (P.1, Argus,11-4-1900.)

TROTMAN.-On the 15th September, at her late residence, St. Hellens, Boomahnoomoonah, Kezia Trotman, beloved mother of Joseph Trotman, Waldara; Robert Trotman, Broadmeadows; Helen Trotman, and Emma Kingston, of Boomahnoomoonah, aged 83 years. A colonial of 60 years. (P.1, Argus, 18-9-1901.)

MOORE - TROTMAN. -- On the 9th December, at St.John's Church, Fremantle, by the Rev. George Wheately, William James Moore, W.A., to Ethel May Trotman, fifth daughter of Joseph Trotman, J.P., Waldura, Wangaratta.
(P.1,Argus, 1-1-1902.)

John Kerr's widow had children to whom Joseph Trotman became stepfather.
SCOTT-KERR.-On the 24th April, 1902, at "Waldara," Wangaratta, the residence of Mr. Joseph Trotman, J. P., step-father of the bride, by the Rev. L. T. Copeland, of Chiltern, Fred J. Scott,youngest son of the late William Scott, of Kongwak, Gippsland, to Jessie M. Kerr,youngest daughter of the late John Kerr, of
"Kerrsland," Broadmeadows. (P.9, Argus,10-5-1902.)

A brief report of the wedding (The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 10 May 1902 p 47 Family Notices-actually P. 48) shows that R.O.Peck was best man; unless my memory is playing tricks, this was Richard Peck, son of John Murray Peck of Lebanon and brother of Harry (author of MEMOIRS OF A STOCKMAN)of Hiawatha, both in today's Strathmore. My guess is that the Scotts were stock and station agents like Harry and his father but I think Richard Peck was an architect.

SLOAN-TROTMAN. - On the 27th June at Claremont, WA, in Presbyterian Church James Macome Sloan, eldest son of James Sloan, Esq., Wangaratta, Vic, to Celia Gertrude,daughter of Jos. Trotman, Esq. J.P.,"Waldara", Wangaratta, Victoria.(P.1, Argus, 23-8-1906.)

Who needs it when you've got Neil Hamilton Mansfield's magnificent THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY. As soon as I saw the Bethell/ Trotman connection in the cemetery records,I was reminded of Neil's staggering genealogy.

P.85. Elizabeth Bethell was the fourth of eight children to William Bethell and Frances (nee Barker). She married Thomas Robert Trotman at Tullamarine in 1880. Thomas was born in 1957 on lots 1-4 (on the south side of the future e-w runway)at Tullamarine,the last of seven children to William Timbrel Trotman and Emma Kezia(nee Williams). Details re the children of Elizabeth and Thomas (Edith Maude, Leonard Robert, Egbert William,Edmond Atholson)are available on request.

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I came across these in the National Library of Australia newsletter. You can access them by googling the words above (in upper case.) There are 20 photos per page and I have only included photos of people here. From first impressions the photos mainly concern N.S.W. (*Unless another place is specified in the summary,it can probably be assumed that the person was in N.S.W.and to save the time spent repeatedly typing N.S.W., I will not do so even if it is specified.)


P. 5.
American wrestler, John Killonis 1927; Conductor, Sir Hamilton Harty, 1934; Cricketer, Tim Wall, 1933; Archbishop Michael Kelly, 1920; Sir Norman Kater, 1932; Rugby Union player, Syd King, 1930; Rosemary James with dog, Cobbity, 1936; Frank Harvey 1936; Athlete, F.W.O'Brien, 1931.
Fisherman,Charlie Messenger, 1930; Mrs Agnes(Goodsin?)on ship, 1925; Miss Preston Stanley 1933; Aust. golfer, J.Ferrier, 1934;Tennis player, Lethersley, 1930; Rev. Canon R.B.Hammond 1929.
Senator P.F.Mooney 1931; Dr William Robert Maloney 1930; Mr and Mrs W.Fairfax 1928, Sprinter, Eileen Wearne (x2), 1932; Victorian cricketer, Mr Bromley, 1933; Cricketer, E.P.Whitfield, 1933; Prof.G.L.Wood 1933.
Mr Fox and man 1925; Cricketer, Archie Jackson, 1933; Athlete, F.W.O'Brien again, 1931; Writer, William Hatfield in Darwin, 1931; Sir Hugh Denison, 1920; Dr Arthur John Waldock,Canberra,1944.



Because,in order not to exceed the capacity of the surnames list,I have been covering four pages per journal, I will need about 500 journals to detail all the people appearing in the photographs. Therefore I have decided to conduct an experiment. The first person, not already mentioned, to appear on page 9 is Sir Isaac Isaacs.

If I do a search for him on trove there are 183 760 results, and as anyone who has used trove a lot would know, a lot of them are about Sir something else, Isaac someone else etc. The summaries of these results may not indicate whether there is a photo with the article. There are some photos on the right of the newspaper articles but not many and the Fairfax Collection is not mentioned. However it is unlikely that any photos would be found there for some of the people recorded in the Fairfax Collection.

What if we do a trove search for "Fairfax, Isaacs"? A bit better, with one photo at least implied in the summaries of the first 20 results. The information regarding photos and data sets to the right of the articles does not mention the Fairfax Collection. The aim of the experiment is to find not only the Fairfax collection but all the photos of Sir Isaac Isaacs within it (to avoid the necessity to scroll through all 3994 photos to find them.)

Now we try "Fairfax, negatives, Sir Isaac Isaacs". Only 79 results, one photo and no mention of the collection.

Now "Fairfax collection of glass plate negatives, Sir Isaac Isaacs". Absolutely useless.
The same search terms in the pictures, photos, objects category rather than digitised newspapers and more. No!
The same search terms on google. No.
A search for FAIRFAX COLLECTION OF GLASS PLATE NEGATIVES on google. Plenty of results but the aim of finding all the photos of a nominated person in the Fairfax collection has not been achieved.

It is great that the N.L.A. has digitised the collection but to save family historians having to scroll through 3994 photos to find the photo they seek (or to find if there is one there at all) more needs to be done. That was the aim of my journals about the collection. Have they helped? Let's try Mr Bromley.

First result on trove under pictures etc.:
Victorian cricketer Mr Bromley, 1933
Fairfax Corporation
[ Photograph : 1933 ]

Let's try a search for Doug Nichols (No 171 on page 9) in the same way.
Fourth result but others as well:

Photograph of Doug Nicholls
[ Object, Photograph ]
View online
At National Museum
Photograph of Doug Nicholls

Lois Briggs
Herald and Weekly Times
[ Photograph : 4 images : 1961 ]
Keywords: Briggs, Lois.; Models (Persons) - Victoria.; Aboriginal Australians.
... and Mrs Selwyn Briggs, shows her diploma to her uncle, Pastor Doug Nicholls, right, and Mrs Nicholls, left ...

Indigenous Victorian Australian Rules footballer Doug Nicholls, 15 August 1931
Fairfax Corporation
[ Photograph : 1931 ]
View online
At National Library

Now I'll try Thomas Dunbabin (No.3981 on page 200.)

Thomas Dunbabin at his desk speaking on the telephone, New South Wales, ca. 1915
Fairfax Corporation
[ Photograph : 1900-1930 ] This was No.3981.

Miss B. [Beatrice] Beedham (later Mrs Thomas Dunbabin), Tasmanian Exhibition, 1894-5, Season Ticket Holder - Warick Street
[ Photograph ]

Thomas Dunbabin with W.R. Sudgrove, Captain Green and an unidentified man on the deck of a ship, New South Wales, ca. 1915
Fairfax Corporation

Now I'm pretending to be a family historian and I haven't a clue whether the collection contains a photo of this person. THOMAS SMITH.(I just made the name up.)

Thomas Smith
Duryea, Townsend, 1823-1888, photographer
[ Photograph : 1870 ]
Keywords: Smith, Thomas
... Thomas Smith, Bank Manager at Gawler ...

[ Photograph : 2 images : 1895-9402 ]
Keywords: Smith, Thomas (Portraits); portraits; beards
... Mr Thomas Smith posing in his Masonic regalia

It works. I don't need to do another 498 journals.


I came across these in the National Library of Australia newsletter. You can access them by googling the title of this journal. There are 20 photos per page and I have only included photos of people here. From first impressions the photos mainly concern N.S.W. (*Unless another place is specified in the summary,it can probably be assumed that the person was in N.S.W.and to save the time spent repeatedly typing N.S.W., I will not do so even if it is specified.)


Herbert H.Fishwick; Archbishop John Charles Wright of Sydney 1930; Sir James O'Grady Gov of Tas.
Miss Frances Bult N.S.W. 1934; Breakspear at tennis N.S.W. 1931; Jockey Shelton * 1934; Judge Beeby 1927.
Mrs Roland Kitson 1932; Cricketer, Alexander Hurwood, bowling, Queensland, 1927; Miss Gladys de Haviland, 1929;
Charles Haywood, radio announcer, 1932; Jockey, W.Eastburn, 1934; Indigenous sailor 1932; Olympic swimmer, Noel Ryan, 1930; Sir Robert Garran 1932; Jim Mollison's plane, Mascot, 1931; Distance runner, Jack Sheaves, 1932;
Cricketer,Norman Falk, batting, 1934.
B.Kelly (no given name) 1932 (cricketer?); Aust. cricketer, B.J.Tobin,1933; Mrs Mares, 1931; Sir Hugh Poynter, 1931; Rev.Dr.Edward Griffith,1928; Swimmer, Edna Davy, 1928; F.C.Thompson batting in Queensland,1927; Pianist, Wilhelm Baukhaust, 1926, Jockey O'Shea, 1934; Rev. David Flett Brandt, 1927.