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I no longer have my cubic metre of notes compiled from hundreds of sources,which were used in the writing of my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND. Thus,most of what I write comes from memory of what I wrote in those 2500* handwritten pages, a 20+ year old memory which is pretty good, but as demonstrated in this instance,not quite perfect, and genealogy needs to be perfect.
(*More like 3000 pages when all the newspaper articles etc. stuck on the backs of the foolscap pages are counted.)

I have stated in several journals that James Anderson married Dugald Stewart's daughter and that Dugald had come to the area because of involvement in the construction of the Mt Alexander and Murray River railway. Nearly true,but it was DONALDStewart, not Dugald.That is why James Anderson's wife was not listed as a family member in any death notices re Dugald Stewart and his children, which I mentioned was strange!

When I moved to Rosebud,I had no room for my notes (cubic metre), DHOTAMA (a metre-high stack),parish, geological survey, ordnance and airport acquisition maps (in cardboard tubes)etc. so most of the material (which might make sense to anybody else)was donated to the Tullamarine Library (formerly part of the Moonee Valley Regional Library but by this time part of the Hume Library)and was sent to the Hume Global Learning Centre near the Broadmeadows station.

When I wrote a history of the Horseshoe Bend Park at Keilor (involving William O'Neil who purchased all of the 19 acre Keilor Township suburban allotments,most granted to F.D.Wickham) in the present park,I was contacted by John Shorten of the Friends of Horseshoe Bend Park. It turned out that John was also president of the Keilor Plains Pioneer Family History group and that he asked for a lend of DHOTAMA.

That was when John decided to take on the mammoth task of scanning and digitising DHOTAMA so I entrusted the metre high pile to his care. He did it! John sent me copies of the files and made this correction possible.

ANDERSON.James,Don,Peter.(Keilor) (PAGE A18 DHOTAMA.)
James Anderson of Braeside was the son of Mr William Anderson and was born in Fifeshire in Scotland in 1847. He arrived in Victoria at the age of seven and his father set up at Keilor as a blacksmith. His father was killed as the result of an accident at the toll gate at the bridge.James was a versatile man and followed many rural occupations,including that of shearer. He owned several racehorses and won 21 steeplechases with the noted Springfield trained by Wally Cox, father of Mr.W.S.Cox, secretary of the Moonee Valley Racing Club. Another of his horses to be successful on the Victorian Turf was Zircon.

James Anderson'swife was the daughter of Donald Stewart who came out to Victoria in early days and teamed up with Cornish and Bruce, contractors for the construction of the Bendigo railway. Mr. Stewart remained with the construction as far as Sunbury and was there associated with the railway for the rest of his life.
(Keilor Centenary Celebrations, 1950)

(19-1-2014.The following might be a death notice for James Anderson's niece.
"STEWART.' - At Kelvin Grove private hospital, Margaret Stewart, only daughter of late D. C. Stewart and M. P. Stewart, of Sunbury, and the loved sister of Malcolm and David. P.13,Argus, 8-7-1933.

To cut a long story short,James Anderson occupied James Wilson's old farm on the west side of Hoffmans Rd, Niddrie for many years before moving to Braeside. Wilson's farm is described in my journal "1888 GEOGRAPHY WITH THE MELBOURNE HUNT", as is James Anderson's mother's death at "Shelton".

His son, Don,(obviously named after Donald Stewart)provided for many years the most picturesque entry to Keilor from Melbourne every spring,with the blossom of his apricot orchard on the present Horseshoe Bend Park greeting travellers as they descended Curleys Hill. The Horseshoe Bend Park office is Don's old home.A history board nearby provides details.

Don's son Peter, who was living on a corner house on the south side of Church St, Keilor, by the 1990's, Braeside to the north having been sold, had married the daughter of Ina Henderson from Tullamarine. The Hendersons owned the land now occupied by Henderson Road and ran the brick post office (demolished for the construction of the road in 1956) and lived in a beautiful Victorian house on the north corner,later occupied by Ben Hall,grandson of the bushranger, before it too was demolished. Geoff Henderson from Gladstone Park brought a painting of the old post office to the 1998 BACK TO TULLA.

SECTION 12 (East Keilor west of Rachelle Rd, Niddrie south of Farrell St.)
Bounded by Rachelle Rd., Buckley St., Hoffmans Rd. and the latitude of the north side of Farrell St., this was granted to James Patrick Main in 1846. He was probably related to Patrick who built the first bridge over the Moonee Ponds Creek at Flemington, still known as Mains bridge after it had been swept away by floodwaters and rebuilt.
James P.Main, builder and settler, Moonee Ponds in 1841 and 1847, may have been living on Mains Estate. At the latter date, Thomas Anderson, dairyman, was on Mains Estate, Moonee Ponds. I wonder if Thomas was related to James Anderson (a later occupant of Mains Estate.)

James Wilson, who came to the colony in 1847 at 21 worked as a shepherd etc., and ran the Golden Fleece hotel at Pentridge for 5 years before buying 185 acres on Mains Estate in 1857. (In 1868, James Wilson was only assessed on 100 acres so he was obviously leasing a part of his land to somebody.) The farm was called Springbank and the homestead, a two storeyed brick mansion, was on the south corner of Hoffmans Rd. and Teague St. until it was demolished in the 1930s and replaced by a garage which was itself demolished in early 1992.
Keilors 1868 ratebook shows that Wilson had 100 acres. His known neighbours on Mains Estate were William Hoffman 100 acres, Dugald McPhail 221 acres, Thomas Cox 50 acres, James Collier 46 acres.
Possible occupants of the remaining 123 acres of Mains Estate in 1868 were Thomas James Trahey (Saimey?) 60 ac. and John Foley 70 ac. (This gives a total of 647 acres; the extra acres are probably because McPhails land was actually 212 acres, that is Rosehill of 112 5/8 acres plus two blocks of just under 50 acres each.) p.s. Cox and Collier occupied the site of the Niddrie quarry. (Title information at end.)

Blacksmith, William Anderson was killed in an accident near the toll gate at the Keilor bridge (Brees 1854 bridge) on 25-2-1862, leaving his wife Catherine (nee Clark) and children, Janet, Catherine, Margaret, Alex. and James. The widow was Keilors midwife for thirty years until dying in September 1892. The daughter named after her seems to have been a pioneer of Ardmillan Rd from 1877 until 1894 (at old No.81, now 65 and 65A and from March 1909 Miss Morriss Blinkbonnie Ladies College), when she probably moved back into her late mothers Keilor residence. James worked at many occupations including that of shearer, was an overseer at Arundel in 1868, and in 1882 bought a butchers shop in Keilor. When that was sold, he and his wife (Annie Grace, daughter of Donald Stewart) went to a farm on North Pole Rd (50 acres in section 12 on the west side of Spring Gully) and afterwards to Springbank.
A press report of the Oakland Hunt Clubs meet of 20-5- 1899 says that the quarry was chased around Pinnacle Hill to a slaughterhouse, then east to Andersons well-kept farm etc. James later, some time after 1930, moved to a farm called Braeside (the 30 acres in Keilor containing Meehan Ct, Watson Rise, Fleming Ct and Tan Ct), where he died on 2-6-1943 at 96. His son Don bought a part of William ONeils Horseshoe Bend Farm in 1937 and his orchard became a feature for those descending down Curleys Hill into Keilor. Dons son, Peter, married a daughter of the Hendersons from Tullamarine and still lives across Church St from his grandfathers Braeside land.
In 1900 James Anderson was farming Springbank of 179 acres and 214 acres (probably Sinclairs Farm of 114 acres and two farms of about 50 acres each fronting the north side of Rose Hill Rd. He also had 50 acres accessed from North Pole Road (Coxs Farm, lot 10 of section 12). He later owned Braeside on the hill overlooking Church St. and Green Gully Rd. at Keilor.
James Wilsons old Spring Bank farm was put up for sale, obviously in 1918. The claim is made that the 179 acre farm had been in family ownership for 80 years; nonsense unless Wilson was related to J.P.Main, the grantee (and occupier since at least 1841).

James Patrick Main mortgaged section 12 to John and John Pinney Bear on 26 Jan., 29 July, and 3 December 1847 and on 4-4-1848 he made a Conveyance of Equity of Redemption in which the Bears paid him 1030 pounds. (D 801, E 252, E 601, E 956.) The last memorial apparently put the grant into the Bears ownership and they sold some of it as detailed later. On 10-1-1854, Main seems to have regained ownership, from Charles Kilburn, of the land that Blair was later to buy from him (49 259) and the southern part of Springbank, which he later sold to Wilson.
On 19-4-1851, Main mortgaged part of James Wilsons later purchase to James Graham and Alexander McLean Hunter for 325 pounds (M 277). On 10-5-1854, he mortgaged both pieces of Springbank to Thomas Clark, a further amount being paid to him on 10-7-1854 (11 450 and 14 310).
On 9-8-1855, James Wilson bought Spring Bank from J.P.Main for 4732 pounds. Wilson claimed to have established the farm in 1857 (Victoria and Its Metropolis 1888). Did he mortgage it straight after the purchase and take two years to pay it off? This land ran south 4008 links from the northern boundary of section 12 to the northern boundary of Niddrie Secondary College (29 662.) These boundaries explain the bends in Newman Cres. (north) and Garnet St (south). It is of interest that John Wilson started leasing 18c (which touches the n/w corner of section 12) from J.P.Bear on 31-7- 1855, just over a week before James Wilson bought Springbank.

Wilsons family seems to have owned the property until 1918. James Anderson was occupying Springbank, possibly by 1895 (1918-23 years) and certainly by mid 1899 (Oaklands Hunt report) and was still there in 1930, his address being given as Buckley Park (Vol.534 fol.973). No mention of Springbank is made in the James Wilson or James Anderson title index but Sam Merrifields House Names Index contains an entry claiming that Anderson owned the farm. (Owner Mr Anderson. Occupier Mr Swan, butcher of Essendon. Vide Essendon Gazette 8/2/1900. 2 storied brick mansion. Abuts Conniston Ave. Demolished 1930s.) Conniston Ave. could have been Hoffmans Rd or Teague St.
Land Plan 10004, lodged by C.R.Anderson on 27-11-1923, deals with the subdivision of Springbank. The plan shows that the northern boundary of section 12 was the front fenceline of houses on the north side of Farrell St. The south boundary of Springbank was at the southern end of the bend in Garnet St. See further details at end of Section 12 entry under Hoffmans Rd heading.
Peter Anderson told me that James Andersons youngest son was named Colin when I asked if hed heard of C.R.Anderson. However, the second Christian name of Colin, born in 1900 at Keilor to James Anderson and Annie (nee Stewart), was Lindsay. C.R.Anderson lodged many land plans and was probably no relation of the Springbank farmer.
An undated entry on P. 32 of Sam Merrifields House Names Index (L.Frost) seems to date from 1918 and, as well as making the ridiculous claim that Springbank had been owned by the same family for 80 years (possibly a typo for 60!), states that the same lessee had been there for 23 years. The previous entry (in brackets above) says that James Anderson owned it and the second seems to indicate that James was only a lessee. Was James Wilson related to James Anderson? Was Anderson sub-letting to Swan?



By the way, James Anderson married Donald Stewart's daughter,ANNIE GRACE.

ANDERSON. Annie Grace. - On November 14, at her daughter's residence, 5 Grice crescent, Essendon, the dearly beloved wife of the late James Anderson, of Braeside, Keilor, and loving mother of James, Leslie, Florence (Mrs. Dawson, deceased). Donald, William, Gordon, Colin, and Janet (Mrs. Yates), aged 90 years 3 months. -Peacefully at rest.

ANDERSON. Annie Grace (of Braeside. Keilor). -On November 14, at the residence of her daughter, Mrs. C. Yates. 5 Grice crescent, Essendon, wife of the late James Anderson, fond and devoted mother of Les, mother-in-law of
Phyllis, and loving grandmother of Marie, Lesley, Judith, and Stewart.' Our beautiful mother.
(P.16, Argus,15-11-1952.

James Anderson's father, William, had married Catherine Clark, as stated above,and her christian name was passed on for generations. It seems that the Ardmillan Rd resident, Catherine Anderson, was the sister of James, who called one of his daughters Florence Catherine. Catherine (nee Clark)died at Shelton, the former farm of John Beale who had moved to Ardmillan Rd, Moonee Ponds. The resident of Miss Morris's Blinkbonnie College in Ardmillan Rd (until 1894 according to directories)must have been the sister of James as his mother died in 1892.

Shelton was all of the land bounded by North Pole (Milleara) road, Clarks Rd, Rachelle Rd (named after one after John Beale's twins who both died of Diptheria)and Buckley St,except for the portion south of the Dinah Pde. corner and west of Quinn Grove.As stated earlier James was assessed on land other than Springbank and he was certainly the son on Shelton.

ANDERSON- On the 10th inst., at her son's residence,Shelton Farm, Keilor, Catherine, relict of the late
William Anderson of Keilor, aged 87 years. (P.1, Argus,12-9-1892.)

DAWSON -Sacred to the memory of our dear sister Florence Catherine, who passed to a higher life, September 28, 1931.
Three little words,
Forget me not,
They don't seem much
But they mean a lot.
-(Inserted by Colin and Donald Anderson,Keilor.)

David Yates is the third eldest of Josiah and Mary Ann. He married Bessey Smith, who was 17 years, at East Charlton, Victoria. Bessey being bought up with not much money signed her name with cross signaling that she could not write. Both the Yates family and the Smith family wrote false details on the wedding certificate. Bessey's mother Isabella who was the widow of John Smith and the wife of Theophilus Haylett gave her name as Isabella Smith not her married name Haylett which caused a lot of curiosity. Also David wrote that his father was a drover and his mothers maiden name was McGown instead of O'Connor. Although no officials caught them lying it was a big scandal in the town as no one new what was going on behind closed doors. David Yates was also the owner of the Keilor Racecourse Hotel and it was there that two of his young sons drowned in the creek. David and Bessey had a big family of eleven children. Their children are David William, Joseph John, Kenneth, Edward Humphries, Bessie Ellen, Sophia, John Smith, Clyde Stephen, Charles Adrian, Herbert and Thelma.

It was just as well that David and Bessie Yates had a large family because they tragically lost three children in two years.

YATES.-On the 19th December, accidentally drowned, at Keilor, David and Joseph, the dearly beloved children of Mr. and Mrs. David Yates, of Racecourse-road, Keilor, aged respectively 10 years and 8 years.
(P.1, Argus,21-12-1896.)

YATES.On the 15th January, at her parents' residence, Racecourse Hotel, Keilor, Sophy, dearly beloved youngest daughter of David and Bessie Yates aged 15 months. (P.1, Argus, 17-1-1898.)

Racecourse Hotel, Keilor. Flemington Spectator (Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Thursday 8 July 1915 p 2 Article ... Racecourse Hotel, Keilor. D. Milburn, a native a Keilor and a well-known resident, advertises that he has taken possession of the Racecourse course Hotel, Keilor, which has been carried on so favourably for the past 29 years by Mlr. D. Yates, and trusts, by strict attention to business and by ... 64 words

Keilor Sports Ground
The Keilor Sports Ground together with the Keilor Primary School site originally formed the Keilor racecourse.
(Source: KHS newsletter, September 2004)(Keilor Sports Club - Vicnet‎)

APRIL, MAY 1998. Harrick's Cottage restoration became possible on 14-5-1998. Bulla Directory of 1868. (This includes landowners around Bulla but does not seem to include residents up Oaklands Rd; they would have been listed under Oaklands Junction. The Reddans were north of Dickins Corner -Melway 176 D7- one of their farms being "Holden View" and John Dickens (sic) on Coldingham Lodge south of the bend. Walter Clark of Glenara is listed but his neighbours to the south such as the Mansfields, Grays, Charles Farnes, the Ritchies etc would have been listed under Tullamarine. *One family with a connection to Keilor was the Tate family of "Pleasant Vale" (on Tullamarine Island north of George Randall), related by marriage to the Milburns. Some of the Wildwood Rd residents were the McAuliffes of "Wildwood", David Patullo of "Craig Bank" and John Fanning of Emu Flat. Edward Fanning's family still had "Sunnyside" south of the Loemans /Diggers Rest Rd junction in the 1990's and probably still owns it after over a century and a half of occupancy;See Kathleen Fanning's FANNING FAMILY website which has a good Bulla parish map.) Memories of old Keilor resident,William Johnston, which indicates that the Eldorado Hotel was later John Eagling's Waggoners' Arms and David Yates Racecourse Hotel on the west corner of Arabin St**. The Eldorado was run by Donald McDonald's father for some time; Donald wrote a nature column in The Argus.

(*A reference to James Anderson and Dugald Stewart of Fleetbank has been deleted for obvious reasons.)
(** The editor, Susan Jennison O.A.M., wrote some notes at the end of William Johnston's story,including this:
David Yates was a great sportsman and trainer of horses. He built a race track
at the rear of his hotel on the corner of Macedon and Arabin Streets, Keilor in 1888. At the age of 75 he was still winning harness races. He died in 1934 aged 82 years and is buried in the Keilor General Cemetery.)


If you google, John Kernan, itellya, you will find many results which include the false claim that John Kernan of Merai Farm died in 1879. This claim was caused by the error detailed below. Genealogists face enough problems without being led astray so this correction is necessary. Unfortunately, as in the case of Sumner of Moorooduc and Brunswick,the year is not corrected in the summaries if it corrected in the actual journal.

Andrew Lemon was wrong on P.76 of BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY when he stated that John Kernan, who had occupied Merai from 1856, died in 1879. He died in 1877 at the age of 48. Perhaps he was also wrong about the widow of John being Mary? (P.14, Illustrated Australian News, 24-7-1877.)

The Moreland City Council has been informed of this and another Andrew Lemon error quoted in their heritage study.


Charles Hollinshed had presented about a truckload of papers to the Victorian Historical Society and was selected by the Shire of Flinders to write its history:LIME LAND LEISURE. I had been researching Mornington Peninsula History for about a month or so when I read his book, rather made notes from it, and although I found a few boo boos, such as Ned Williams' biography appearing in the WHITE entry,I was quite prepared to accept everything in the book as Gospel. Boy, I was excited when I found out that the first Rye Hotel was in Dromana some time before 1859! The alarm bells tingled when Charles called William Cottier JAMES Cottier. The Kangerong parish map, which I had obtained from the Rye Historical Society,made it quite clear that William Cottier was the grantee of the land that became Walter Gibson's "Glenholm". It is doubtful that William Cottier's supposed hotel was on the foreshore (actually the Survey) opposite the Dromana Bush Nursing Hospital;it would more likely have been the squared-log core of the Glenholm homestead (bottom of 160 D5,under the freeway.) William had received the grants in 1857.

James (sic) Cottier (pronounced "Cutter")and his wife came to Dromana in 1850.They may have begun as tenants on the Survey but built on the foreshore where Dromana Hospital is now. James (sic) took up timber getting and presumably stayed in that trade because he is said to have had bullocks hauling piles from the back country when the Dromana pier was being built in the 1870's. However he or perhaps Mrs Cottier soon began to take in boarders.

SOME TIME BEFORE 1859 A LICENCE ISSUED AND THE COTTIER HOUSE BECAME THE RYE HOTEL. (Charles then mentioned Cottier's grants which became Walter Gibson's "Glenholme", sic, Glenholm.)

IN 1866,IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A MR. CAMPBELL, HE PUT UP A BUILDING SPECIFICALLY TO BE AN HOTEL,AND ON TRANSFER OF THE LICENCE,THIS BECAME THE RYE HOTEL. Eventually the new hotel deteriorated and Campbell, probably still in partnership with Cottier (unlikely,see below), built the White Cliffs Inn,presumably on a site next to Cliff House (which was) on the(east)corner of Napier St. THE COTTIERS WERE AMONG THE FIRST SETTLERS AT RYE AND IT IS SAID THAT THEY WERE THE FIRST TO USE THAT NAME INSTEAD OF TOOTGAROOK.

Pencilled in one of the four copies of LIME LAND LEISURE in the local history room at Rosebud library are the following comments written by somebody who was obviously a frustrated Cottier family historian.

Who is the William Cottier who married Margaret Owen and had two children born at Tootgarook, Emily in 1872 and Mary Jane in 1869. A William Cottier paid rates on 564 acres at Fingal in 1865. William leased land in Rye from W.A.Blair in 1874,1 acre 3 roomed house.

The following is copied from my HERITAGE WALK, DROMANA journal.

According to Colin's map, William Cottier's house on the Survey was near today's Balmoral Avenue. William signed the 1861 petition in support of Robert Quinan's school becoming Dromana's Common School (P.133 in Colin's book.) William Cottier (pronounced Cutter)received the grants for crown allotments 9 and 10 section 1, Kangerong and built the initial part of what became Walter Gibson's Glenholm homestead. C/a 9 is now the Dromana Industrial Estate and c/a 10 is the Monaco Estate including all Lombardy St house blocks.

What did surprise me is the following grant in the parish of Fingal, south of the Boniyong (Boneo) pre-emptive right.
Lot 32. One hundred and twenty two acres three roods five perches, 22/- per acre.William Cottier.
(P.5, Argus, 19-2-1858.)

In another journal I have warned family historians about taking lot numbers to be crown allotment numbers. William Cottier's Fingal grant was crown allotment 13 of 122 acres 3 roods and twenty five perches.It was a triangular block fronting the west side of Truemans Rd south of the St Andrews Golf Club's Gunnamatta Course, indicated by Melway 252 B10 and C 10-11.

When I added Kangerong as a search term, to avoid millions of shipping intelligence articles in the 1850's (Captain William Cottier), I discovered that William had bought his grants between Collins Rd and (inclusively) Lombardy St in early 1857. Lot 5 is c/a 9 and lot 6 is c/a 10 (both section 1 Kangerong.)

Parish of Kangerong, County of Mornington. Upset price £1 per acre.
Lot 5,151a. Sr. 8p, William Cottier, £1 per acre.
Lot 6,116a. 2r., William Cottier, £1 5s. do. (P.6,Argus,26-3-1857.)

LIME LAND LEISURE has much detail about Cottier and John Campbell (who also signed the 1861 petition in support of Robert Quinan.) Charles Hollinshed relied on the memory of elderly descendants and called Dromana's pioneer James Cottier. However he must have seen documents or articles to support his claim that Cottier established the RYE hotel at Dromana and that the licence was later transferred to Tootgarook where he and John Campbell (who built Rye's first pier in 1860) built the RYE HOTEL east of Napier St. (The present Rye Hotel is on the site of Patrick Sullivan's Gracefield Hotel, built about 15 years later, whose name came from the Dromana property that his father in law,William Grace, had sold in about 1871 before moving to Rye.)

Rye was known as Tootgarook, but as in the case of Rosebud, where people said that they were going to THE ROSEBUD,thirsty limeburners probably said ,"I'm going to THE RYE" and in each case THE was eventually deleted. Thus William Cottier is credited with giving Rye its name. So what's this?

FOUND, A quantity of SPARS. Owner can have a claim by applying to Mr. Cottier, Tootgarook Hotel, Tootgarook.
(P.1, Argus, 8-6-1869.)

LICENCE.-To the Bench of Magistrates. at
Mornington.-I, WILLIAM COTTIER, farmer, now
residing !nt Ryo, in tho colony of Victoria, do hereby
give netico that it is my intention to APPLY to the
justices, sitting at the Court of Petty Sessions to bo
holden at Mornington, In tho said colony, on tho 20th
day of Juno noxt.'for n CERTIFICATE authorising
the issuing of a PUBLICAN'S LICENCE for a house
situated at Rye aforesaid. The houso Is built of wood,
consisting of two slttlngrooms and six bedrooms ex-
clusivo of thoso required for tbo use of tho family ;
occupied and owned,by mo. It is not licensed. To
bo know n as tbo Tootgarook Hotel. i
Tho 14th'day of Juno, A.D. 1807. ,
- I ' (Signed) . WILLIAM COTTIER. (P.8 Argus, 21-6-1867.)

NOTICE.-The PARTNERSHIP hitherto subsisting
BELL, trading as " Wm. Cottier and Campbell," at
Tootgarook, has this day been DISSOLVED by
mutual consent.
All liabilities will be paid and all moneys received
by William Cottier.
Melbourne 18th April, 1870. (P.3, Argus, 14-4-1870.)

William Cottier, of Rye, near Point Nepean,
limeburner. Causes of insolvency-Long de-
pression of trade and losses in business.
Liabilities, £480 12s. 6d. ; assets, £30 ; de-
ficiency, £150 12s. 6d, Mr. Goodman, official
assignee. (P.5, Argus, 26-10-1870.)

A special examination was held in the
estate of William Cottier, of Rye, labourer,
late publican. The insolvent was brought in
custody from gaol, where he was imprisoned
on a charge of stealing meat, and was ex-
amined by Mr. F. Stephen in reference to his
transactions as a publican at Rye, and also
respecting, a lime-burning business that he
had been engaged in. (P.7, Argus,23-12-1870.)

Certificate Meetings.
Certificates of discharge from their debts were granted to the following insolvents :
....... ; John Blair, of Melbourne, surgeon*; ....... William Cottier, of Rye, limeburner ; F. W. Wilks, of Collingwood, commission agent. (P.6, Argus, 10-6-1871.)
*Blair,like Cottier,recovered and bought Villa Maria, naming it Blairgowrie, which eventually became the new name of Sorrento East.

Until documentation of a licence being issued for William Cottier's house near Dromana under the name, Rye Hotel, is found, this claim must be treated as the type of myth that finds its way into family folklore, such as Rosebud's Captain Adams being the illegitimate son of Lord Vivian and receiving a grant of 750 acres. As William's application of 1867 shows, he intended to call the hotel the Tootgarook Hotel;he did not mention transferring a previous licence.

However,the fact that a "Tootgarook Hotel" had been operating earlier*(on part of the Tootgarook pre-emptive right, near the future Leonard St) might have required a different name to be used.
*Peter Purvis**, Tootgarook, Tootgarook Hotel.Granted.(P.5, Argus, 22-4-1857.) **Peter Purves d. 1860.

Since not one of the 170 results for "Tootgarook Hotel" in the 1860's mentioned a hotel of that name until William Cottier's application in 1867,the need for another name seems unlikely. It also means that Patrick Wee Wee and the four quarrymen who drowned on the way to the quarantine station in late 1869 had met in William Cottier's TOOTGAROOK HOTEL, which, by the way was probably built on John Campbell's grants, crown allotments 6 and 7 of section 1, extending from The Esplanade to Nelson St. They had a 40 metre frontage to both streets between points 60 metres east of Napier St and 100 metres west of Lyons St.

Was William Cottier ahead of his time in naming the area Rye? He used the name twice in his 1867 application. There was no mention of either Tootgarook or Rye Townships in The Argus in the 1860's,the only indication that a township was even in the pipeline being the following advertisement:

extension on mail road between Cheltenham and Tootgarook (in consequence of removal of post office, Tootgarook to another site), at contract rate per mile, from 1st of July to 31st of December, 1860, £8 6s. 6d,Henry Dunn ;
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 17 October 1860 p 7 Article)

In 1868 the school at Rye was still called the Tootgarook school when John Watt (whose house now stands next to the Sorrento Museum) was appointed to the committee.
Tootgarook, No. 623 -Robert H. Kelly, John Watt ;(P.7, Argus, 24-6-1868.)

RYE. County of Mornington, parish of Nepean, in the village of Rye, on Port Phillip Bay.Upset price, £8 per acre. Allotments 4, 6,7,8, Section 2 ; 7,10, Section 3. 2 roods each. (P.3, Argus, 21-4-1869.)

Now realising why I'd found no mention of either Tootgarook or Rye Townships,I entered VILLAGE OF RYE and the Cottier claim of giving Rye its name was shot down in flames.

COUNTRY LOT. NEPEAN. Situate on the southern shore of Port Phillip Bay, west of the village reserve of Rye, about seven miles east of the Sanatorium.Upset price, £1 per acre. Allotment 12. 163 acres.
)P.7, Argus,17-8-1865.)
(Crown allotment 12,parish of Nepean was on the north east corner of Melbourne and Canterbury Rds and became part of Owen Cain's Tyrone.)


It could be presumed that the people who signed the petition of 9-3-1861,scanned onto page 132 of Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, had children enrolled at Robert Quinan's school at Dromana. It was signed by both William Cottier and John Campbell. This would indicate that both families were still living at Dromana in 1861. It is possible that Master Mariner, John Gibson (whose son,John, born in 1859 on the Survey later became a Kiwi) had a vessel and took Campbell to Rye each day, or the pier was built later than 1860. (John Gibson also signed the petition!)

Did the village of Rye have that name while John Campbell and William Cottier were still living at Dromana? Yes, in early 1860!

Nepean, situate from 8 to 10 miles south-easterly from Point Nepean adjoining the village reserve of
Rye, and west of Mr. Purves's pre-emptive section :etc.
(Column 4 about a third of the way down in the second MELBOURNE sale after GISBORNE, P.7,Argus,23-4-1860.)

Jennifer Nixon's FAMILY, CONNECTIONS, SORRENTO AND PORTSEA probably has much information about the Cottiers but let's see if trove can add anything.


COTTIER.-In loving memory of our dear sister,Lily, who passed away on the 25th August, 1924,at Frankston; and our dear mother, who passed away on the 23rd August, 1913, at Sorrento; and our dear brother, Walter, who passed away on the 17th September, 1916, at Sorrento.(P.13,Argus,25-8-1928.)

Possibly related to William.
COTTIER.-On the 3rd inst., at Queenscliff, James Cottier*, aged thirty-one years. Gipps Land and
New Zealand papers please copy.(P.4, Argus,9-2-1867.)
*His son, James Edwin, was still at Queenscliff when he married in 1885.

COTTIER. -On the 11th Mar, at the Children's Hospital, Melbourne, Alan William, dearly loved grandson of Edwin John (deceased) and Josie Dark, Ophir, Sorrento, and William Cottier, Frankston* and the late Elizabeth Cottier, aged 9 years and 11 months. (P.1, Argus, 12-5-1925.) The boy's parents, John and Elizabeth, who placed the previous notice in the same issue,lived in Richmond.

*Possibly son of William in previous notice.
COTTIER, James.—On March 10,at his residence, Lewis street,Frankston, loving husband of Isabella (Queenie).
COTTIER. —The Funeral of the late Mr. JAMES COTTIER, of Lewis street, Frankston, will leave Cain street, Sorrento, THIS DAY (Thursday), after a service commencing at 2.45 p.m., for the Sorrento Cemetery.
(P.12, Argus,11-3-1954.)

Grandfather of Alan William.
COTTIER -On the 7th September at Charlescote, 23 Hope street Spotswood, William, the dearly beloved husband of the late Elizabeth Cottier and loving father of Jack and Ethel (Mrs W.R.Anderson), aged 77 years -Mother and
father reunited. (P.1, Argus, 8-9-1932.)

The late Elizabeth Cottier (nee Dark) above(Lily.)
COTTIER. –On the 20th[?] August, at Fndley? street,Frankston, Elizabeth Hester (Lily), dearly loved wife of William Cottier, loving mother of Jack and Ethel (Mrs. Anderson), loved sister of Ted(deceased), Walter (deceased), Charlie, Minnie (Mrs. White), Annie (Mrs. Skelton), Frances (Mrs.Johnstone), Effie (deceased), and Harry, aged 65 years.(P,.1,Argus, 26-8-1924.)

Edwin John Dark's grandson.
COTTIER.—On August 25, at Sydney, Edwin John dearly beloved son of Elizabeth and John, brother of Allan (deceased), Florence (Mrs.Gillson) and Charles aged 28 years. -Loved by all. (P.22, Argus, 1-9-1951.)

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I can't blame Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS A FORGOTTEN HISTORY for my boo boo. Andrew gave me no grounds for assuming that there were no denominational sections at the Will Will Rook Cemetery. He may have given me that impression with his emphasis on the prominence of Scots in the area, such as John Kingshott's appointment to the Broadmeadows (Westmeadows)school committee so it wouldn't consist entirely of Presbyterians. Somewhere,probably in Sue O'Callaghan's BROADMEADOWS HISTORY KIT (which I read in 1988 in the Gladstone Park High School library),it was mentioned what a turn-around it was for the Will Will Rook Cemetery when Kerrsland became the St Joseph's Foundling Home,the resting place of Presbyterians becoming the final abode of infant Catholics (or words to that effect.)

However the main reason for my assumption was the burial of many Broadmeadows Catholics at Bulla and Keilor cemeteries,such as butcher, Bob Cargill's son at Bulla after he was accidentally shot by young Graco.

The following comes from Beryl Patullo, whom I have never met though we have been history colleagues for over a quarter of a century. She is one of the dedicated FRIENDS OF WILL WILL ROOK CEMETERY, along with another colleague of similar vintage, Elaine Brogan, secretary of the Essendon Historical Society for many years.

Hi XXX, been reading your article on Mickleham. Your comment regarding no designation in the cemetery.
Originally it was 10 acres: 2 acres Presbry, 2 acres C of E, 2 Acres RC, 1acre Wesleyan, 1 Independent & 2 acres other denominations..... It was cut back later to 4 acres in total. which was because there was no one buried on the side closest to the creek the area which is now the parkland. from the existing Headstones in the cemetery to the creek. . We are able to pick where the designated areas are because of the headstones or known graves exist.There are some Darmody children buried in the cemetery, but the parents are in Keilor.
regards Beryl.

Thanks for that Beryl!

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TALK ON CHANGE. "I will buy with you, sell with you, talk with you." SHAKSPEARE. "Quamquam ridentem dicere verum, Quid vetat?"HORACE.
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 5 January 1884 p 17 Article

And the talk is of Dusky Joe, who owns the pleasure boat from Rosebud, and who plays seven musical instruments.


CRICHTON - SHAND. On the 24th September, at St. Peter's, Mornington, by the Rev. Thos. Quinton, Hugh, youngest son of Mr. John Crichton, Glenlee, Dromana, late of Ayrshire, Scotland, to Ellen, second daughter of Mr. Alexander Shand. Wannaeue. (P.182, Illustrated Australian News for Home Readers,3-11-1875.)

I found this while I was researching Finsbury estate, Dromana which I found while researching Railway estate, Dromana which came to mind while I was researching agitation for railways on the peninsula. I wanted to record the above marriage notice in case I never found it again; I've corrected the digitisation in the article but not the summary. Thus this very short journal.

The late Ray Cairns told me of several family relationships before I turned my voice recorder on,so they probably didn't make it into my transcript: TALKING HISTORY WITH RAY CAIRNS. He told me that a Crichton had married a Shand and that a Barker had married a Shand.

Glenlee fronted the west side of Boneo Rd between Browns Rd and Limestone Rd and the Shands were obviously near Shands Rd, quite some distance apart. However John Crichton's family had also bought John Lovie's grants north of Glenlee and received grants for bush paddocks near Main Ridge, one of which is now bisected by Valleyview Lane (Melway 254 H,2-4)and John would earlier have ridden east to visit his good friend, Thomas Ormiston Martin, who appointed John as one of his executors.

Thus Hugh and Ellen most likely met in the vicinity of Main Creek which the Shand and Martin properties fronted. Alexander's farm straddled Main Creek and was in the parishes of Wannaeue and Flinders.

There is much information about the Shands and Crichtons in my other journals including a very long report of the marriage of another of Alexander Shand's daughters.
N.B. As in many early ratebooks the Glenlee family's surname was written as Crighton in the family notices!
Glenlee was a heck of a long way from Dromana but the steamer destination was often tacked onto Red Hill, Main Ridge, Rosebud give some indication of their locality.


I have read bits and pieces of your journals and find them fascinating. I am trying to ascertain where the farms of John Crighton and Henry Parker exactly were along Saltwater. I believe John Crighton was born at sea however on his marriage certificate (1880) to Rebecca Rachel Parker, both state their places of birth as Keilor, Vic. Rebecca's birth place is registered as Saltwater (b.1859).

I'm wondering with your knowledge of the areas, if you could help me find the locations please? Any information would be of great interest and much appreciated.

No longer having access to my rates transcriptions, I cannot be certain, but I don't remember either family being assessed in the oldest records available circa 1989 (Keilor 1868, Broadmeadows 1863.)I had , however, seen the name, Crighton.

The boundaries of section 22 are indicated by: Thomas St/Barrie Rd, Sharps Rd, Nomad Rd. and the Fraser/ King St. midline. Information regarding its occupants comes mainly from Keilor Shires rate records except for lots B and D, which were in Broadmeadows Shire.
ALLOTMENT F of 147 acres between Fraser St. and Parer Rd., was granted to early squatters, A.Wright and J.& T.Crighton in 1848 and in 1868 it was being farmed by John Commons. Its eastern boundary was the same as for allotment E.
ALLOTMENT E consisted of 128 acres and extended north to Moore Rd. In 1868 it is likely that Sam.Mansfield had lot E as well as his 56 acres in section 16 and 87 acres in 22c as another property of 130 acres is listed. At the turn of the century, Robert G.Stevenson was leasing lot F, part of St Johns between Bulla Rd and Treadwell Rd (Wirraway and Nomad Rds.), lot E (which was mistakenly called lot G) and a few small blocks between Bulla Rd. and a now-closed road*. This gave him a total of 329 acres.
(* This road left Bulla Rd. at Webb St. to run to the corner of English St. and Nomad Rd., the n.w. corner of section 16. The 1860 survey map shows this road finishing at the north boundary of 17B. It may have been the original road to the Springs or the old Macedon Rd,which title deeds show to have cut, respectively, though section 15 and section 21.)
Rupert Percy Steele was leasing Niddrie and a memo reveals that Steele had taken over lot F and Maurice Quinlan lot E plus the s.w. corner of St. Johns.
ALLOTMENT C, between Moore St. and Dromana Ave., granted to J.P.Fawkner, was occupied in 1868 by: Sam. Mansfield 87 acres, J.B.Howse 17 acres and Catherine Howse 9 acres and licenced house.

Maps cannot be pasted.
ALLOTMENT A of 87 acres, was granted to W.Hall according to the parish map.
On 25-9-1851, Joseph Hall mortgaged it to Charles Payne for 100 pounds and Payne
reconveyed it to Hall on 13-1-1853 (N 614 and T 654). On 10-7-1877, it was sold to James Sharp.
It is advisable to read section 21 regarding James Sharps Hillside at this point.
It is unclear who had lot A in 1868 but in 1889, J & A. McNab were leasing 187 acres
from G.W.Taylor (Hillside including 22A apart from Sharps 8 acre homestead block).
By 1992 James Sharp seems to have used G.W.Taylors forfeited payments on Hillside
to extend his farm. At this time, Thomas Nash had begun a lease on 294 acres of the
expanded 302 acre Hillside.
This continued into the next century. Nash was followed by P.R.Johnson before 1913.
The Thomas Family bought Hillside in about 1940 and called it Carinya Park.
Thomas St in Airport West is near the s.e. corner of James Sharps original 133 acres
of section 21.
In the mid-1950s Joe Thomas sold lot A to Caterpillar.

Family historians must be very careful regarding parish maps. Updates were often produced, particularly during the boom decade of the 1880's. There are two maps of the parish of Doutta Galla available online and neither is the one showing the date on which the grant for 22F was issued. This map was among the material that I gave to the Hume Library system when I left Tullamarine. I have no further information about the location of the Crighton farm. I would presume that the grantees were relatives, friends or business associates. This is not necessarily so though. George Coghill(squatter) and John Pascoe Fawkner (avowed enemy of squatters) jointly received the grant for 13A, Tullamarine, the northern part becoming part of Glencairne soon afterwards and the southern half, part of Fawkner's subdivision straddling Mansfields Rd.

Allotment F of section 22 may have been the pre-emptive right and Wright and the Crightons may have held a depasturing licence from the Crown for all of section 22, and perhaps adjoining land, prior to 1848. This could be checked by entering the surnames and depasturing licence on trove.

The Parkers could have been longtime friends of the Crightons living on 22F. If they had their own farm, there were only certain areas of the parish of Doutta Galla where it could have been.
Angela Evans' website BIRTHS REGISTERED IN THE KEILOR DISTRICT (from 1851)lists Margaret Parker born in Doutta Galla in 1863 . Her parents were given as Henry Parker and Mary Rogerson . Aha!, I thought, I'll just refer to my BLAIRS OF ESSENDON journal and find exactly where John Dick's land was. However ROOTSWEB WORLD CONNECT makes it clear that the mother's maiden name was actually Rogers, not Rogerson. This website, which gives Margaret's birth as 1864 ,has two other bits of information about the children of Henry Parker and Ann Rogers that interest me. Mary Ann married James Patullo (also detailed in PATILLO FAMILY), and Sarah's second given name was Beale, suggesting a relationship by marriage to the family of John Beale of Shelton.

Jessica is not listed as a child of Henry and Mary so she may have been their niece. Just as James and Thomas were grantees of 22F, the Parker brothers may have settled together.

I would suggest three areas in the parish of Doutta Galla where the Parkers may have settled.
1. Section 16, bounded by English St, Carnarvon Rd, Woodlands St, Keilor Rd and TreadwellSt-Nomad Rd which almost adjoins the Crighton's 22F.They may have been leasing land from the Crown and then from David Mairs.
2. Crown Allotment B of section 11, bounded by Clarks Rd, Rachelle Rd, Buckley St and North Pole (Milleara) Rd. Much of this became John Beale's "Shelton" but was another J.P.Fawkner subdivision (circa 1850) aimed at helping his beloved yoeman farmers to obtain freeholds.References to Saltwater River would make this location more likely than number 1.
3. Land between St Augustines and the river, leasing from David Mairs or others.

See the Patullo journal.

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CJ. And T. HAM are instructed by Mr. W.Cripps to SELL, as above,
Land, comprising 101 acres 1 rood 4 perches,being Sections 18.A1 and 30C, parish of Wannaeue, having a frontage to the Cape Schanck-road, at Wannaeue, Mornington*, within four miles of Dromana. The extension of the railway to Schnapper Point must tend to benefit of this land. Title Crown grant.
(* Mornington means county of Mornington, a huge area including the peninsula, part of Gippsland and north at least as far as Mordialloc.)

Land being portion of Crown Allotment 8, parish of Moorooduc, having a frontage of 180ft. to Tanti-road by a depth of 133ft.(P.2, Argus, 5-6-1886.)

I am not sure whether the Tanti Rd land was being sold for Mr Cripps as well, but just in case: Crown allotment 8, Moorooduc of 92 acres 1 rood and 5 perches and bounded by Barkly St, Beleura Hill Rd, Nepean Highway and Tanti Creek, was granted to A.B.Balcombe.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 1 December 1877 p 2 Advertising
CJ. and T. HAM havo received Instructions from. tho executor and executrix of the estate ol thelate A. B. Balcombe, Esq , to SELL by PUBLICAUOIION, at tboir rooms, 46 Swanston street, on Thursday, 13 h December, at twolvo o'clock, the undermentioned properties, viz.: (only two pasted!)

3.All that piece of land, being Section No. 8,Moorooduc, 92 ACRES 1 ROOD 5 PERCHES,nearly opposite tho Tanti Hotel, having frontages to tho main road and two Government roads; gently undulating land, well timbered,
and securely fenced.

5.Part of subdivision of Section 4 and 5, Moorooduc, fronting the main road, two allotments,each containing about half an acre. (This means sections 4 and 5 of the Township of Mornington,between Tanti Rd and Tanti Creek separated by Strattons Lane and consisting of about 11 and 6 acres respectively.)

I believe the Tanti Rd block being sold by Ham in 1886 was on sections 4 and 5 of the township, not crown allotment 8, Moorooduc.

Just the other day I came across Cripps' grant (30C)in reference to a land department clerk accidentally confusing crown allotment 18 Wannaeue with crown allotment 18 Wannaeue and describing it as 159 acres instead of 150 acres (to which it was later amended.)If that confuses you, it will help you to understand the clerk's confusion. Cripps' land was in and near c/a 18, section B and c/a 18, section A was between Jetty Rd and Ninth Avenue building blocks. The parish map shows no boundary between section A and B, but I believe that Section A was north and north west of Cape Schanck Rd, formerly the Tootgarook Run, and section B was on the other side,being the former Arthurs Seat Run.

This journal would never have happened if steve74 had not sent me an email reporting a blue between John Cripps and Back Road Bob Cairns. This and another case involving Robert Henry Adams will be included in my future journal STORIES FROM THE ROSEBUD DISTRICT but a sneak peek can be obtained in the following:
South Bourke and Mornington Journal 18th October 1882 P.3;
South Bourke & mornington Journal 15th November 1882 p.3.

The Government road heading south from Rosebud, and known as Jetty Rd, originally continued south past Limestone Rd into the parish of Fingal, the haunt of graziers. Past the junction of Cape Schanck and Jetty Rd
(hence in Section B Wannaeue) the road was named Grasslands Road but the part between this point and Drum Drum Alloc Creek is now closed.

William Cripps was granted c/a 18A1,section B Wannaeue on 7-10-1878. On 1-10-1884 he was granted 30C, adjoining it to the north. The total area of the two blocks was 102 acres 0 roods and 20 perches. Adjoining 30G (the present Amberley Caravan Park), Cripps' land is indicated by Melway 170 F 7-9.

John Cripps was the member of the family brought before the court by Robert Cairns in 1882,but it was actually William. The judge allowed the case to proceed. The court report shows that William had sons named William Thomas and Albert. The Adams case seems to indicate that there was a third son named Joseph. The first case shows that William Cripps, who had a licence to cut timber from crown land, made a track through (what was to become) Back Road Bob's selection in about 1870.

Just fishing here: could William Cripps have moved to Gippsland, as so many peninsula pioneers did, and been an ancestor of Winsome Cripps, a female athlete of the 1950's whose name is lodged in my memory with those of Marlene Matthews, Shirley Strickland etc?
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 12 December 1896 p 10 Article
...; Joseph Cripps, allotment 7, 25 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora; William Cripps, al- lotment 6, 20 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora; Frederick C. Cripps, allotment 8, 26 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora; George Cripps, allotment 10, 13 acres, Bowen Reserve, Toora;

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 20 December 1954 p 9 Family Notices
... misted by a long tulle veil. . A "snowstorm" of confetti greets Olympic runner, Miss Winsome Cripps, ... daughter of Mr. and Mrs. F. G. Cripps, of Toora, Victoria,

Approval of William Cripps' application for a lease on 18A1 was published on page 2094 of the Government Gazette of Friday, November 5, 1875. The date of the lease was 13-9-72 and he had to pay 5 pounds 8 shillings rent per year. Unlike most of the applicants there was no rent due.
(PDF, 4.1MB - Victoria Government Gazette‎)

After resorting to genealogy pages linking CRIPPS with Mornington, Dromana etc with no success, I realised that the closest postal town was Tootgarook (Rye) and tried that. This is definitely the right family. Children 1 and 4 were witnesses in the 1882 court cases. Children 4,6,7 and 10 were born in the Rosebud area between 1869 and 1886 when he was definitely at Rosebud. (He had made the track through Robert Cairns' future selection in about 1870. I don't know where the court reporter got John and Joseph from. Unfortunately my fondly-remembered athlete does not seem to be a descendant.

From: "Carolyn Harris" <[email protected]> (by way of "Rob Nelson, Perth WA" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: DPS-CHAT: Cripps research
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:34:24 +0800

Have been seeing quite a bit of queries about CRIPPS and wondered why it
sounded familiar. I did research for a friend years ago and that was one
of the surnames that she had. For any one who has Victorian CRIPPS this is
a cut down version of it.

William CRIPPS (1822 - 1898) {1861}
D. Geelong
Thirza WELLS(1840 - 1921)
D. Mordialloc

1. William Thomas CRIPPS (1861 - 1885)
D. Snapper Point
2. Jacob John CRIPPS (1864 - 1866)
B. Melbourne D. Melbourne
3. Eunice Ann CRIPPS (1866 - )
B. Brighton
4. Albert CRIPPS (1869 - )
B. Tootgarook
5. Alfred Walker CRIPPS (1870 - 1939)
D. Richmond
6. Minnie CRIPPS (1872 - )
B. Dromana
7. Georgina CRIPPS (1874 - ) {1896}
B. Dromana
8. Victor Emanuel CRIPPS (1878 - 1954)
B. St.Kilda M. St.Kilda D. Edithvale (marine engineer)
9. Lesl;ie CRIPPS (1878 - 1904) {1902}
B. St.Kilda D. Melbourne
10. Eva CRIPPS (1881 - 1925) {1907}
B. Dromana D. Werribee


Carolyn Harris - (Westoz) - Australia


It has not been determined how long William Cripps stayed in the area after the advertisement appeared in June 1886. He applied for a carrier licence in 1887, but along with that of Henry Prosser, his application was postponed.He must have been well known to John Cain (municipal representative since the Kangerong Road Board first sat in 1864)who in 1899 asked that improvements be made to the road between Cripps' and Blair's estates.
The latter (6oo acre) estate was at Melway 171 G-K8 and to the south, bounded by Purves and Main Creek Rds.

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Grace E. Caldwell's 1921 letter about Dame Nellie Melba's concert, which she organised when she was a girl soon after the Continental opened and Hughes was mine host, to raised funds to fence the Sorrento cemetery, might have been held in January 1885 when Helen Mitchell was a married woman, Mrs Armstrong, aged about 24.Either Grace was wrong to describe her as a girl at the time or there were two concerts, one in about 1876 and another in 1885. See my comment of 2014-12-27 19:39:52.

THE FOLLOWING PAR LED TO MY ASSUMPTION THAT NELLIE WAS ABOUT SIX WHEN SHE ORGANIZED THE SORRENTO CONCERT.It is now clear that her first public performance at the age of six,when a playmate saw her drawers,was at Richmond and that her performance at Sorrento to fence the cemetery was as Mrs Armstrong,hardly a girl as Grace Calder described her. Sydney Smith Crispo wrote much verse and conducted a one man show consisting of twenty versatile items that got rave reviews so "the man in the street" was taking a cheap shot at him.

Tay Pay O'Connor, M.P., who has started a new journal in England, has just published a chapter of history of
Madame Melba, Australia's Queen of Song. By Nellie's own account she was an incorrigible child, and the only
thing in which she showed a reasonable interest was music. At the age of 6 she made her first appearance singing Shells of Ocean and Comin' Thro' the Rye, but on asking a playmate how she sang, the latter replied with scorn "Nelly Mitchell, I saw your drawers!"

Strange that the first public performance she gave was for the fence round a cemetery in our own district (at Sorrento). She saw the fence was in a dilapidated condition and determined on getting up a concert. She did the bill posting herself, and the result was a profit of £20. Perhaps Nellie's success in the world of song has inspired St Crispo to endeavor to make himself famous in poesy.(P.3,Argus,1-9-1898.)

MORE ABOUT MELBA was the title of another fascinating article in the Balnarring and District Historical Society newsletter of August 2011. It is about a concert that Melba gave at the Flinders Naval Depot. It was broadcast by 3LO but a crying baby and interference caused by the telegraph to Tasmania affected the quality.The stamp to commemorate the 150th anniversary of Melba's birth was designed by the great-great -granddaughter of Septimus Planck, Balnarring's first school master. Other details of the concert had obviously been given in a previous issue.

S.Planck,possibly the Balnarring teacher, Septimus, was granted crown allotment 104A of the parish of Bitten on 25-3-1876. The acreage is not recorded on the parish map but it had to be 95 acres 1 rood and 20 perches.It had a frontage of 706 metres to the south side of Myers Rd and today would be occupied by the Bluestone Lane Vineyard and,at the middle of the frontage, No 265 Myers Rd, (roughly Melway 163 B8.)

FLINDERS. Last Saturday morning, a very severe accident befell Eric, the 14 year old son of Mr Chas. Planck of the Telegraph Company.(P.2, Mornington Standard, 15-7-1905.)

A pleasant social gathering took place at Balnarring, on Tuesday evening last, the occasion being a complimentary farewell dinner to Mr S M Planck, head teacher of the Shoreham State School, he having been a teacher in the district for upwards of 11 y ears, and is, it is understood, about to be transferred to a school in a more populous locality, at Avenel. The chair was occupied by Mr Robert Wighton.
(P.9, Argus, 26-6-1883.)

RECOLLECTIONS. " To the Editor of "The Standard." Sir,-The football match, Frankston v Balnarring was a very pleasant game from the start to the finish. I am glad to see such good feeling between these teams, as it reminds me of old times, about 30 years ago, when we used to meet the Frankston cricketers, with either Ben Baxter or Johnny Box as captain of the F.C.C., and S. M. Planck skipper of the Balnarring team. We always had very pleasant meetings for years. Those were the good old days; and I hope the good feeling of last Satur-. day will always remain between those two football teams. I was glad to see our old friend,Mr B.Baxter, sen;, present but we miss a few of the old faces. I will say nothing about the young barrackers this time.
Yours etc.,. - - ROVER. Balnarring, 20 /7 /1910.(P.3,Mornington and Dromana Standard, 23-7-1910.)

Septimus may have left the district but the family remained for some time, with C.Planck acting as treasurer for the Flinders Mechanics' Institute and library.

Mornington and Dromana Standard (Vic. : 1908 - 1911) Saturday 12 June 1909 Edition: MORNING p 2 Article
... Valedictory. MESDAMES PLANCK AND SAVAGE, FLINDERS. Owing to the closing down of the Eastern Extension Cable Co's local branch at Flinders, Messrs Planck and Savage (who were on the cable staff) together with their wives and families, are leaving Flinders for the metropolis, where they intend mak ... 318 words


Sir-Son onto in Mr MueDonnld s line phrase is the adie, of the State Die iirst mai nugi heiviee wai, s ilenimsetl hele and on Oitiber ii the 1 ill and Countess of stiidbiolL mtenil 1 nig piescnt at the hcrviee that mail (his hist inc event

Another thing, Dame Nellie Melba Queen of Song, gave her first concert in this the queen of watering places. The Continental Hotel had just been erected* (Hughes being mine host ) and Melba was here with her father. Walking one day they came across the grave of a member of the crew of a recent wreck and being told it was a cemetery which they were going through, the girl exclaimed, "And without a fence!" It was explained that it was probably owing to lack of funds that the cemetery was not closed in. She decided to give a concert, and wrote the placards herself being wise enough not to mention her own name for "singing in public makes a young girl bold" was the father's opinion who was then in ignorance of his daughter possessing "a singing voice." The concert was held, and a sum made that erected the fence that is still there, whilst today if Dame Melba repeated the performance, two people would have to occupy one chair, so great would be the enthusiasm to rehear her-
Sorrento, Sept. 26.
(P.10,Argus, 28-9-1921.) My apologies for not correcting the text in the first paragraph but you can see how much fun I had doing the relevant bit!

*The Continental Hotel was built in 1875 by Ocean Amphitheatre Co Ltd of which George Coppin was the Managing Director.( Continental Hotel - About‎).

Melba, Dame Nellie (18611931)
by Jim Davidson
Dame Nellie Melba (1861-1931), prima donna, was born Helen Porter Mitchell on 19 May 1861 at Richmond, Melbourne, eldest surviving of ten children of David Mitchell, building contractor, and his wife Isabella Ann, ne Dow. (Australian Dictionary of Biography.)

Mitchell, David (18291916)

by Joan Campbell

David Mitchell (1829-1916), builder, contractor and businessman, was born on 16 February 1829 in Forfarshire, Scotland, son of William Mitchell, tenant farmer, and his wife Anne. In 1846 he was apprenticed to a master mason and on completing his indenture sailed from Liverpool on 6 April 1852 in the Anna, arriving at Melbourne on 24 July.

Mitchell worked as a mason and saved money to build a shanty on a lot in Burnley Street, Richmond. Next year he visited Bendigo and near-by goldfields but returned to set up as a building contractor at his Richmond site, which became the centre of his business operations. In 1856 he married Isabella (b.1833), daughter of James Dow, an engineer at Langlands Iron Foundry, and built a new home, Doonside, to replace his shanty.

The next forty-five years saw his active and successful participation in a variety of business ventures. Work had been started in 1850 on rebuilding St Patrick's Cathedral, Eastern Hill, and in April 1856 Mitchell won the tender for the masonry work for 7760. By mid-1858 he had completed this work on the first stage of the building but it was then decided to demolish the existing structure and to start again with W. W. Wardell as architect.

By 1859 Mitchell had a factory for steam-made and pressed bricks at Burnley Street. In 1874 he became a shareholder in the Melbourne Builders' Lime and Cement Co., formed to break the monopoly of the Geelong limeburners. By 1878 he had bought Cave Hill farm at Lilydale and began working its limestone deposits, later also handling the distribution. In 1888 his extensive workshops at Richmond were destroyed by fire. He rebuilt the works and added two new ventures, the production of 'Adamant' plaster and in 1890, with R. D. Langley as a partner, a Portland cement factory at Burnley using materials from Lilydale.

In 1890 Mitchell formed a company to mine a channel and tunnel on the Yarra River at Pound Bend, Warrandyte, and employed gangs of Chinese to work three miles (4.8 km) of riverbed for gold. By 1894 he had cheese, butter, bacon, ham and soap factories at Cave Hill, housing them in a complex of well-designed brick buildings. In 1888 his dairy had operated the colony's first mechanical milking device. By 1900 he owned vineyards and wineries at Yeringberg, Coldstream and St Hubert's. He acquired several large stations in various districts, including the Bethanga estate on the upper Murray, Jancourt in the Western District, Gooramadda, Dueran, Barjarg and Colbinabbin, most of which were subdivided and sold.

Among his many large structures Mitchell built the Menzies Hotel in William Street (1857), the Paterson, Laing & Bruce warehouse, Flinders Lane (1871), Scots Church, Collins Street (1873-74), the Presbyterian Ladies' College, East Melbourne (1874), Prell's Buildings (1887), the Masonic Hall, Collins Street (1888), the Equitable Insurance Building (1893), the National Bank and the New Zealand Loan Co.'s wool and grain warehouses at Kensington. His grandest venture was the Exhibition Building, which employed 400 men and was opened in 1880. He retired from building in 1899 and concentrated on his other business interests.

Mitchell had given support to the eight-hour movement in 1856 but was not very active in public affairs. He was a member of the Council of the (Royal) Agricultural Society and of the Builders' and Contractors' Association. As a Presbyterian he was a long-time member of Scots Church choir. His musical interests included playing the violin at home and encouraging the talents of his daughter Helen, later Dame Nellie Melba, but even when she became world famous his natural reticence prevented him from openly praising her singing. Predeceased by his wife in 1881, he died on 25 March 1916. Of his ten children, he was survived by Frank, Charles and Ernest, Dame Nellie who travelled extensively after 1886, and three married daughters living in Melbourne.

A portrait is held by the David Mitchell Estate Ltd., and another by Hugh Ramsay is in the Castlemaine Art Gallery. (Australian Dictionary of Biography.)

P.226, MEMOIRS OF A STOCKMEN, Harry Peck (available online on trove, digitised newspapers and more.)
David Mitchells name so far has only cropped up incidentally
as the holder at different times of Yering, St. Huberts, Dairy, Killara
and Pendleside, but in reality David Mitchell for fully half a century
was the colossus of the Upper Yarra, standing head and shoulders
over all of the district in his multifarious transactions. He was also
widely known as the father of the world-famous Dame Nellie Melba,
herself born at Lilydale. F o r many years David Mitchell was a
member of the Council of the Royal Agricultural Society and, as a
member of the works committee, was a host in himself, for be it
remembered that as the contractor he built both the Melbourne
Exhibition Building and the Equitable (now the Colonial Mutual
Assurance building) at the corner of Elizabeth and Collins streets.
Like his famous daughter he had a voice of silver, and sang for years
in the choir of Scots Church in Collins street. His speaking voice
was equally mellow and soft and his whole personality pleasant.
W earing the full beard of his day, slightly titian and early tinged
with silver, of medium height and weight, David Mitchell was ever
a man of easy approach, even for the most humble. He held a number
of stations, owning Jancourt near Camperdown, Dueran near
Mansfield, Bethanga Park and Gooramadda in the north-east, and
Colbinabbin near Rochester.

No doubt the great Cave Hill lime quarry on the boundary of
Lilydale township and still going strong after 80 years working, was
the foundation of his fortune and it is still worked by his trustees.
In connection with the lime quarry and works there are about 1000
acres of well-grassed lands and 50 to 60 years ago Mr. Mitchell sent
drafts of fat sheep and lambs fattened thereon regularly to
Newmarket by hoof, before the Lilydale railway was built. As is
generally known Dame Nellie Melba bought a property of about 1000
acres just beyond Coldstream some 10 years before her death, and
built thereon a fine home (Coombe Cottage), where her son Mr.
George Armstrong now resides. He has improved the property
considerably by top-dressing and has been a regular supplier of fat
bullocks to Newmarket.

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steve74 keeps feeding me info. so I might as well use it. So the Darley/(Sarah) Wilson connection goes back well before their time near Westernport shores! I've written plenty about the Darleys including the location of their grants in the parish of Flinders and the boy almost crippled by a boar who became a champion golfer and had one of the holes at the Flinders Golf Course named after him. (Flinders Golf Champ Dies; 72 . - Google News;
Flinders golf champ dies; 72 . Bill Darley, of Flinders, one of Victoria's best known golfers died in his sleep early yesterday, aged. He played his last round of ...

This information is in my SARAH WILSON journal,courtesy of Petronella Wilson's fantastic book.

Jamieson's Special Survey was the Safety Beach area, extending east to the line of Bulldog Creek Rd.

Hi xxx,
Its a shame this article is so hard to read but still interesting.

Mornington & Dromana Standard 16th January 1909 Page 4

Mrs Annie Darley, relict of the late Mr. Jonathon Darley (who died in the year 1873) passed away at Flinders S..- December last. The deceased, who was in her 91styear ai the time of her death, had led a wonderfully active life right up to the last. The late Mrs Darleyemigrated to Tasmania with her husband and chil- dren in the ship Sir Charles Napier, in the year 1843. Conditions of life, both on board ship and in the island colony, were at that time very rough and ready, and involved a considerable amount of hardship on the part of the early colonisers. Upon arrival in Tas- mania, Mr Darleyv took up land at New Norfolk, where he engaged in farming and fruitgrowg pursuits, and had the distinction of being the first hop grower in that district, which has now gained such notoriety for its extensive hop gardens. Being such early settlers and pioneers , Mr and Mrs Darley came into contact with many of the best known people connected with the colonisation of the island. The famous Sir John Franklin, then Governor of Tasmaniia, was in their house previous to his leaving the coluny to embark on the ill-fated Arctic exploration, in which he lost his life. Mrs Darley often had visits from Messrs O'Brien, McManus and O'Mara, the famous Irish patriots. As her husband was local representative of the company owning the bridge across the Derwent at New Norfolk, and the house was si- tuated only a short, distance from the toll gates, she was in touch with the traffic along one of the principal thoroughfares of Tasmania. In 1853, when such glowing accounts were heard of the pogress of Victoria, the Darleys disposed of their interests in the island colony, and crossed the straits to the new land of promise. Soon after Mr Darley went to Dro- mana with his wife and family, as'a lessee from the late Mr W. J. T. Clarke (grandfather of Sir Rupert Clarke), of a portion of Jamieson's Special Survey. This was before the Peninsula was properly surveyed and laid out for settlement. Many persons interested in the early historyof Vic- toria will remmember that Jamieson's Special Survey, which afterwards passed into the hands of Mr Clarke, was one of the areas originally sur- veyed and granted under special con- ditions before the lands of the colony were cut up and alienated from the Crown subsquent to the undisputed reign of the old time squatter. Mr Darley went in for extensive farming operations on his section of "The Sur vey," as Jamieson's old grant is still locally known. Dromana was then in its infancy, and Schnapper Point was the post town. In addition to farming Mr Darley also had several crafts ply- ing between Dromana and Melbourne with timber. After seven strenuous yeas at Dromana, Mrs Darley Was ??????????????????????? Flinders as a tenant of the late Mr John Barker. The vicinity of the township of Flinders was then a dense forest. The Darleys farm, which was then known as "The Round Hill Farm," included "The Pinnacles " and a good bit of adjacent. and around the present Cape Shank road, the house being situated at Double Ceek. Mrs Darley also resided for a time at "The Cups,'" near Boneo, where her husband leased some land from Mr Barker for dairying purposes. For a great many years before her death Mrs Darley had been living in the Flinders township, and had therefore the distinction of being a very early settler and resident of the Peninsula of 55 years standing. She could also claim to have been an Australian colonist of 65 years. Of her family, some of whom were born in Tasmania and others in Victoria, three are now surviving. These are Messrs Thos. and Wm. Darley, and Mrs Beecher, all of Flinders, with whom much sympathy is felt in their sad be- reavement. The body was interred in the Flinders general cemetery on the 23rd ultimo, a large number of resi- dents following deceased to her last resting place.

Do you know anything on the Darley Family? Annie Darley married to Jonathon Darley and I just found a Mrs S. E. Darley married to John Darley (Both of Flinders) Both die within a year of each other

22nd February 1908, Mornington Standard
FLINDERS. Very much regret will be felt by her numerous friends in all parts of the Peninsula at the death of Mrs. S. E. Darley, relict of the late Mr. John Darley, which occurred at her late residence, "The Rest,"' Flinders, lastTuesday morning, after a long and painful illness. The deceased lady, who had attained an advanced age, was extremely active, and took a keen interest in anything pertaining to the good of the district until shortly before her death. She was of a very chari- table and kindly disposition, and will be much missed by the residents of Flinders. Any charitable or other useful local movement had her finan- cial assistance and earnest help in other ways if she were not also the actual originator. She took a special interest in the children, who had many picnics and other enjoyments through her kindness and generosity. When the news of her death was received,the flag at the state school was hoisted half-mast, and general expressions of regret were heard on all sides. After the death of her husband some years ago, Mrs. Darley built the villa near the Flinders township known as "The Rest," where she has since resided with her daughter (Mrs. Falkingham) and granddaughter (Miss Martin). Mrs. T. Holland, wife of Mr. T. Holland, of "Mitford," Flinders, is also a grand- daughter of the deceased lady. In all her good services to Flinders of late years, she has been assisted by Mrs. Falkingham and Mr. and Mrs. Hol- land. The remains were interred in the North Brighton cemetery last Thursdasy and a large number of residents assembled at "The Rest" at 8 o'clock, when the body was removed, to pay their last respects to one who had won the esteem of all who knew her.

Regards Steve

ME:Not really,genealogy does my head in; that's why I do LOCAL history. Thanks for this. I'll add it to the DARLEY journal.

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