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PROPOSAL TO RENAME MELBOURNE AIRPORT STREETS AFTER INDIGENOUS, EUROPEAN AND AVIATION PIONEERS CIRCA 1990. (VIC., AUST.)
FROM THE KEILOR ENTRY ON PAGE I-L 52 OF MY DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND.
Rosemary Davidson, librarian, had used the material given to me by descendants of Tullamarine's pioneers for a history week display at the Tullamarine Library in 1989. Anthony Rowhead, an inspector with the Federal Airports Corporation viewed the display and, inspired by it to start a bicentenial project, renaming streets after indigenous, European and aviation pioneers, sought help from Ian Hunter, Wurundjeri researcher, myself and aviation historians. Anthony's letter outlining the final draft may be included with other material I gave to the Hume Global Learning Centre when I moved to Rosebud.
Below are the proposed names, street names or descriptions at the time in brackets, and information supporting the new name. Any comments added are in italics and/or lower case. The information is given as a summary,not verbatim.
AIRPORT DRIVE, (EDGAR JOHNSON DRIVE, AIRPORT ADMINISTRATOR;
MELBOURNE DRIVE, (WOIWURRUNG DRIVE), LOCAL ABORIGINAL TRIBE;
CENTRE ROAD, (BEBEJUNG ROAD), ONE OF THE CHIEFS INVOLVED IN BATMAN'S TREATY. Actually Bebejern, father of William Barak. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barak ;
GRANTS ROAD, (GRANTS ROAD), REMAINS UNCHANGED John Grant's "Seafield was at Melway 4 H6-7 to 5A7, parts 6,8
SERVICE ROAD, (DUIGAN ROAD), DESIGNED, BUILT AND FLEW FIRST AUSTRALIAN PLANE;
LANDSIDE DRIVE, (BONNEY STREET), FIRST AUSTRALIAN WOMAN TO FLY FROM AUSTRALIA TO ENGLAND;
DEPOT DRIVE, (PRATT STREET), FLYING SCHOOL IN GEELONG 1914, R.A.A.F. PLANE CONSTRUCTION;
EAST STREET, (BROADBENT STREET), RECORD BREAKING FLIGHTS ENGLAND TO AUSTRALIA;
MARKER ROAD, (GLENDURA DRIVE), NAME OF JOHNSON's DAIRY FARM ON WHICH THE ROAD WAS BUILT.Olive Nash had never seen the name of the farm,not far north of her former "Fairview" farm,in writing and had taken a guess at the spelling. I did not know at the time that William Dewar had established the farm;
QUARRY ROAD, (QUARRY ROAD) UNCHANGED;
LINK ROAD, (PARR ROAD), NAMES EARLY PIONEERS, JAMES HENRY AND ANN PARR. JAMES AND HIS SON (Bill of "Annandale,
15 C-D1), SERVED MANY TERMS AS Keilor SHIRE PRESIDENT. Link Rd runs south just inside the western boundary of the farm occupied by James Henry and his other son, Sam;
SOUTH CENTRE ROAD, (CROTTY ROAD), RESIDENTS OF TULLAMARINE FOR OVER A CENTURY.The Crotty dairy farm "Broomfield" was on the south side of the western end of Sharps Rd with Tullamarine Park Rd just inside its eastern and southern boundaries;
OPERATIONS ROAD, (NASH ROAD), RESIDENTS OF THE AREA FOR A CENTURY OR MORE. Charles Nash bought land in the early 1850's at Melway 5 F 5-6 (Fairview) and "Bayview", most of today's Trade Park Industrial Estate and west to part of 5 F 11-12. His son Thomas Nash later had land west of the Crotty farm, between Fosters Rd (now Keilor Park Drive) and the river;
CARGO ROAD, (ANDERSON ROAD), ROBERT FOSTER ANDERSON WAS ONE OF SEVERAL PIONEERS WITH THIS SURNAME. Thomas Anderson was an original trustee of Methodist land and one of the access roads in John Pascoe Fawkner's subdivision of that part of sections 6 and 7 Tullamarine within the airport boundary and opposite Wright St (now Springbank St) was called Anderson's Lane by the locals;
ROAD TO NEW HAWKER HANGAR, (REDDAN ROAD), RESIDENTS OF BULLA FROM 1847 AND OCCUPANTS OF BRIGHTVIEW (15 EF2 to 5 FG11),HILLSIDE (Barrie Rd and Allied Drive area east of the Crotty farm) AND SEAFIELD (John Grant's old farm) FROM THE EARLY 1900's.
PLANT ROAD, (GARWARD ROAD), AIRWAYS ENGINEERING ADMINISTRATOR;
TOWER ROAD, (WINDSOR ROAD), L.W.WINDSOR, RESPONSIBLE FOR PILOT TRAINING;
POWER ROAD, (DOYLE ROAD), AVIATION ADMINISTRATOR AND EARLY AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER.COINCIDENTALLY, A DOYLE FAMILY BOUGHT BRIGHTVIEW AFTER THE REDDANS LEFT AND RENAMED IT RISTARO.
AIRWAYS STREET, (WINDSOR STREET), E.W.WINDSOR TRAINED MANY RADIO OPERATORS. It was not very smart proposing the same name for two streets but the aviation historians and Anthony didn't pick this up and I was so absorbed in the early settlers component that I didn't notice it either;
ACCESS ROAD TO F.A.C. ELECTRICAL SERVICES, (GOWRIE PARK DRIVE), SECTION 14 TULLAMARINE (between the terminal building and a northern continuation of McNabs Rd from 4G5 to North Glide Rd) OWNED BY RITCHIES, JAMES LANE ETC., AND USED AS AN EARLY LANDING FIELD CIRCA 1920 DURING LANE'S TENURE. THE FARM WAS CALLED GOWRIE PARK.
Despite the proposal being knocked on the head, Gowrie Park Drive at 5 C5, received its name.
ACCESS ROAD TO FEDERAL POLICE AREA, (MURPHY ROAD), WALTER MURPHY WAS A RENOWNED LEADER OF THE TULLAMARINE COMMUNITY. Known as Major Murphy, although he disliked his former rank being used, W.V.Murphy organised burning of firebreaks, was president of the Tullamarine Progress Association, moved the Broadmeadows Township War Memorial from between the Westmeadows bridge and pub where it was a hazard and cause of bottlenecks to traffic taking the only route, via the Ardlie St hill to Mickleham Rd, the Tullamarine War Memorial from the old Tullamarine S.S. 2613 site on the north corner of Conders Lane just north of Sam Parr's The Elms to the south corner of Dalkeith Avenue, and St Mary's Church of England from the south west corner of Woodlands (yellow part of 177 J9) to 177 B8 in Bulla Village. The Spring St reserve has since been named after Leo Dineen and a plaque on a boulder has been placed in the Melrose Drive Reserve to honour Alec Rasmussen, the other two of Tullamarine's great leaders. Sadly the Major, who was also a great leader in the scout movement was bashed to death by some young thugs.
MELROSE DRIVE, (MELROSE DRIVE), UNCHANGED. Sadly because of airport expansion, many roadways or part thereof such as Grants, McNabs, Mansfields and Barbiston Rds, whose names recalled much Tullamarine history have, or soon will, disappear from maps, which makes it hard to precisely indicate property boundaries. This has recently happened to the Mt.Macedon/Deep Creek/Bulla/Lancefield road, which was again renamed after Jimmy Melrose not too long after the Airport opened. See:
Biography - Charles James (Jimmy) Melrose - Australian Dictionary of ...
Charles James (Jimmy) Melrose (1913-1936), aviator, was born on 13 September 1913 at Burnside, Adelaide, only child of James Melrose (d.1922), pastoralist, ..
CLEAR PHOTOS OF MR.A.McDOUGALL AND MR.H.DELAHEY, JUDGES AT AN R.A.S.V. EVENT IN 1920 AT MELBOURNE SHOWGROUNDS.
TWO WELL-KNOWN JUDGES.
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 2 October 1920 p 29 Article Illustrated
It is likely that these two men were relatives. Alexander McDougall, son of renowned Shorthorn Cattle breeder, Robert McDougall, was an expert horseman, having been the inaugural Master of the Oaklands Hunt from 1888 until he moved to Camperdown in 1900. Moving to W.A.in 1907 he became a stipendiary steward, soon after becoming chairman of stipendiary stewards, retaining the position until he retired in 1928. He died in W.A. in 1937.
There is no proof that the judge was the same A.McDougall and it seems strange that a West Australian would be a well known judge in Melbourne or even be in Melbourne but I believe that Alexander and Jane (nee Forrester) may have visited Melbourne every show week to touch base with relatives and old friends.Alexander's father had been the Secretary of the Moonee Ponds Farmers' Society in 1847 when it changed its name to the Port Phillip Farmers' Society so when this body became the Royal Agricultural Society, Alexander would have been no stranger to its members.
Harry Huntington Peck made a rare mistake in MEMOIRS OF A STOCKMAN when he stated that Henry Delahey had married a daughter of Robert McDougall. Henry Delahey Snr. had married Mary Dodd and his co-grantee of section 10 Doutta Galla, George Dodd, had a son named Robert, a prominent journalist on agriculture, who married Robert McDougall's daughter, Maggie. As the two judges appear to be about the same age, I believe that H.Delahey in the photo was Henry Delahey Jnr.
This journal arose from my effort to find out about Robert Dodd who had married Robert McDougall's daughter Maggie. I suspected that he was George Dodd's son. Little did I know that George had come out with at least two brothers-and a sister! When I was compiling Dodd/ Delahey information from the three Keilor historical souvenirs I had not come across Ray Dodd's research and it turns out that he arrived with his mother, four brothers and three sisters.
On Monday, at the ordinary meeting of
the shire council of Darebin, the presi-
dent formally announced the death of
Cr. Dodd, and moved, " That this council
adjourn for one week out of respect to
the memory of the late councillor, Robert
Dodd, and that an entry he recorded in the
minutes expressive of this council's in-
tense regret at the loss of one of its
oldest members and brightest ornaments."
The resolution was carried unanimously.
The following resolution was also carried : —
"That a copy of the foregoing resolution,
under the seal of the council, be forwarded
to the two brothers of the deceased, viz.,
Cr. Geo. Dodd, of Keilor Shire Council, and
Mr. William Dodd, formerly member of the
late Epping Road Board, and that the presi-
dent be requested to forward a letter of con-
dolence to those gentlemen, expressing to
them the heartfelt sympathies of this council
for their sad bereavement." (P.2, The Age, 18-5-1876.)
THE DAREBIN COUNCILLOR'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number5425 Registration year1876
Family nameDODD Given namesRobert SexUnknown Father's nameWilliam Mother's nameMargaret (Loughnane) Place of birthIREL Place of death Age56 Spouse's family nameJOYCE Spouse's given namesAnne
Robert Dodd had married Ann Joyce* in 1850.
EventMarriage Event registration number791 Registration year1850
Family nameDODD Given namesRobert SexMale Spouse's family nameJOYCE Spouse's given namesAnne
HIS DEATH NOTICE.
DODD.—On the 7th inst, at his residency, Epping,
Mr. Robert Dodd, much respected R.I.P. (P.1, Argus, 8-5-1876.)
After Robert's death, Ann remarried as indicated by a death notice I found while investigating whether George Dodd's missing brother might be named John.
DODD.— On the 9th August at the residence of his
stepfather, G. A. Saxe, No. 91 Johnston-street,
Fitzroy, John Dodd son of the late Robert Dodd, of
Epping, of congestion of the lungs, aged 27 years.(P.1, The Age, 10-8-1882.)
ANN'S SECOND MARRIAGE.
EventMarriage Event registration number1396 Registration year1879
Family nameDODD Given namesAnnie SexFemale Spouse's family nameSAXE Spouse's given namesGeorge Augustus
Advertisement giving details of Robert Dodd's Epping farms. Neither of his brothers were executors.
BROTHER GEORGE; NOTE PARENTS.
EventDeath Event registration number4891 Registration year1884
Family nameDODD Given namesGeorge SexUnknown Father's nameWm Mother's nameMargaret (Loughnan) Place of birth Place of deathKEILOR Age74 Spouse's family nameCOFFEE Spouse's given namesMary
Well, for Victorian BDM, 2 out of 3 aint bad!
As it was not unknown for migrations of pioneers to take them farther from Melbourne along the same arterial roads, such as pioneers near Moorabbin moving to the Mornington Peninsula, it is possible that William moved from Epping to Alexandra in the 1870's and that this is the obituary of his son.
-Friday, May 1, 1942
The death occurred in Melbourne
on April 23, of Mr. William Dodd,
at the age of 77 years. Deceased
was a well known identity of Alex
andra and district, having come to
Alexandra with his parents, Mr.
and Mrs. William Dodd, and lived
here until a few months ago. He
was well respected throughout the
Shire. WM JNR
WILLIAM JNR'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number3931 Registration year1942
Family nameDODD Given namesWilliam SexMale Father's nameDODD William Mother's nameMary (Barrett) Place of birthCAMPBELLFIELD Place of deathNORTHCOTE Age77
See the proximity of Campbellfield and Epping on Melway maps 180-1. The place of birth given was usually where the birth was registered.
WILLIAM JNR'S BIRTH RECORD.
EventBirth Event registration number20753 Registration year1865
Family nameDODD Given namesWilliam SexUnknown Father's nameWilliam Mother's nameMary (Barrett) Place of birthCAMP.
Bearing in mind that there is not yet definite proof that William Snr was the brother of George and Robert, the family had arrived in the early 1840's and he married Mary Barrett in 1854.
EventMarriage Event registration number3318 Registration year1854
Family nameDODD Given namesWilliam SexMale Spouse's family nameBARRETT Spouse's given namesMary
INTERESTINGLY, there was a Cr. Barrett at Keilor in 1907.
KEILOR SHIRE COUNCIL.
The monthly meeting of the above was
held on Saturday last, when there were
present Crs. Taylor (President), Dela-
hey, Harrick, McNabb, O'Neill, Dodd,
and Barrett. (P.3, Sunbury News, 13-4-1907.)
GEORGE DODD'S SISTER.
McIntyre Road honours James McIntyre an early grantee in the parish of Cut Cut Paw across the river from the south west corner of the Dodd/ Delahey land in section 10, Doutta Galla so my eyes nearly popped out of my head when I saw that a Bridget Dodd had married James McEntyre. (Don't the Victorian BDM typists proof read their work? Perhaps that's how it was written in the original document and they have to reproduce it exactly.) Notice her parents are as for Robert and George.
EventDeath Event registration number5710 Registration year1885
Family nameMCINTYRE Given namesBridget SexUnknown Father's nameDodd Wm Mother's nameMargaret (Loughnan) Place of birth Place of deathMAIDSTONE Age65 Spouse's family nameMCINTYRE Spouse's given namesJames
History of the Keilor Hotel
George Dodd arrived in Australia in 1840 aboard the sailing ship Andromache. The colony was 5 years old with a population of just 5000 people He travelled with his mother, three brothers and four sisters. He was 25 years old and single, a stonemason from King’s County Ireland.
He became head quarryman supplying stone to build the first Princess bridge, that bridge was demolished in 1891 (the year of George’s death) to make way for the current Princess bridge. He scoured the colony to find a suitable quarry and ended up in Keilor. The quarry is still operating today (160 years later*) and naturally he built the first stone house in Keilor. He raised money and oversaw the building in stone of St Augustine’s Church in Keilor.
*That must have been the Niddrie Quarry.
Valley Lake - Places Victoria
During the 1970s the Niddrie Quarry in Melbourne's north western suburbs ceased operating and remained vacant for several decades.
George established the first school in Keilor, several years later Mathew Goudie opened a school in the Keilor Hotel. Mathew was a Scottish baker from Ayr who had previously run a bakers shop in Bourke St. Mathew purchased the Keilor Hotel in 1862 for the sum of 1000 pounds, it had been built in 1849, succeeding a timber building erected in 1842 by the Hunter brothers.
Georges son, John, married Mathews daughter, Mary, they had five children and established a farm called Brimbank (because the house was on the brim of the river bank). Today the areas of Keilor and Sunshire are the City of Brimbank.
After Mathew passed away another of his daughters, Jane, ran the Hotel to 1907 when the family decided to lease the Hotel out. Tough times followed with World war 1 and the Great Depression, John & Mary’s son Harry could remember collecting the money from the leasee and picking up 1 keg of beer from Bouverie St in his fathers horse drawn wagon, the keg could last 2 weeks before they had to make another delivery.
Post World War 2 prosperity returned to Keilor and to the only surviving hotel in the area (there were a dozen during the Gold Rush). Now the older generations of the Dodd and Goudie families had passed away, Harry preferred to remain a market gardener and it wasn’t until 1974 that Harry’s son Ray leased the Hotel from the family.
Over the next 20 years Ray managed to acquire all the shares in the Hotel. The clock had turned full circle and he was in the same position as his Great Grand Father was in 1862 but with the responsibility to carry on the tradition of Hospitality left by his family.
When I was asked to comment on the proposal to name a new suburb DELAHEY, I was pleased to offer information in support.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Delahey originally contained several farming properties. The Government acquired the land in the mid-to-late 1980s for re-subdivision as mostly residential properties. The suburb is named after William Delahey, who whilst still a baby, had arrived from Ireland with his parents and siblings Henry Delahey and Mary (née Dodd) in June 1840. Mr. William Delahey had been connected with the Keilor Shire Council for eighteen years and was elected as president during the year 1882–83. The suburb's name was formally adopted in 1994.
The Dodd/ Delahey clan included several other pioneering Catholic families such as the McCormacks, and through them, Maurice Crotty of Broomfield (now the Tullamarine Industrial Estate whose main thoroughfare is Tullamarine Park Rd) and the daughter of William O'Neil of "Horseshoe Bend". Ann Delahey married Patrick McCormack. I hope they had a good reunion! Any Crottys would have told the story of Maurice Crotty's wife racing to Corryong and saving the life of her brother(s?) by placing her body in the way of aborigines from Keilor intent on revenge. The Fitzpatricks of today's Avondale Heights, accessed then by North Pole Road, were also related. The McCoormacks had fled Tasmania to escape arrest for smuggling in Catholic priests according to a Crotty descendant (Glen Cotchen?)who said the McCormack property was Chesterfield of 44 acres south of Annandale Rd to about today's Lambeck Drive, which they would have been leasing from George Annand.
Subject: McCormack Family Reunion - Looking for relatives - Keilor
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:48:55 +1100
Sorry I can't help myself I'm very excited - we are finally organising a
family reunion. I would love to hear from any of the descendants of the
families listed below. The family first came to Victoria in about 1850
after spending 12 years or so in Tasmania. They settled in the Keilor
District and many of the family married into other local pioneering
families. Many of the family memebers also spend a lot of time up on the
high country around Corryong/Omeo and lived on a station called
If any of these names around the Keilor district mean anything to you please
drop me a line.
MARY MCCORMACK was born Abt. 1826 in Co Westmeath, IRL, and died 6 October
1887 in Tullamarine, Vic, AUS. She married MAURICE JAMES CROTTY 11 February
1861 at the House Of Mr McCormack, Keilor, Vic, AUS, son of MICHAEL CROTTY
and BRIDGET HAYES.
Their children were: MICHAEL PATRICK CROTTY (m. JOHANNA FITZGERALD, JAMES
MAURICE CROTTY (m. ELLEN CATHERINE FITZPATRICK) & MARY ANNE CROTTY (m. JOHN
PATRICK MCCORMACK was born Abt. 1829 in Co Westmeath, IRL, and died 22
January 1894 in Hoddle Street, Melbourne, Vic, AUS. He married ANN DELAHEY
Abt. 1860, daughter of HENRY DELAHEY and MARY DODD.
Patrick & Ann did not have any children.
JAMES MCCORMACK was born Abt. 1831 in Co Westmeath, IRL, and died 12 January
1916 in Tylden, Vic, AUS. He married MARY ANN O'NEIL 3 December 1860 in
Keilor, Vic, AUS at the Home Of William O'Neil, daughter of WILLIAM O'NEIL
and BRIDGET GORMAN.
Their children were: PATRICK WILLIAM MCCORMACK (m. MARGARET STOCKDALE),
SARAH ANN MCCORMACK (m. CHARLES GEORGE BARR), JAMES MCCORMACK (m. CATHERINE
ELIZABETH SMITH), DAVID NEIL MCCORMACK (m. LOUISA MARIA HILL), EDWARD ALFRED
MCCORMACK (m. BARBARA ANN MCDONALD), HENRY MCCORMACK (m. MARY ANN SMITH),
ALICE BRIDGET MCCORMACK (m. EDMOND CUSACK), FRANCIS JOHN MCCORMACK, GEORGE
MCCORMACK (m. EMILY ELLEN DONOVAN), SYDNEY FRANCIS MCCORMACK, CHARLES
STANLEY MCCORMACK (m. ABENA LILLLIAN WILSON), EMMA MARY EVELYN MCCORMACK &
EDITH GERTRUDE MCCORMACK (m. ARTHUR SMITH).
The Dodds and Delaheys seem to have run Oakleigh Park as a partnership.
ELECTION NOTICE.-KEILOR DISTRICT
ROAD BOARD.-I hereby give notice that the
following persons have been duly NOMINATED, in
accordance with the clause No 84 of the Local Govern-
ment Act, as CANDIDATES for the office of members
at the election for this district to be holden on the
11th August, 1804.
Patrick Phelan, Spring Park
Gcorgo Dodd, Oakleigh Park.
Dugald McPhail, South Park.
The number of members to be elected is two.
The election will be held at the Court-house,
Keilor, on Thursday the 11th August inst., commencing
at 8 a.m. , and closing at 4 p.m.
TOWNSEND SOMERVILLE, Returning Officer.
Keilor, August 4 (P.3, Argus, 9-8-1864.)
DELAHEY. -On the 12th inst., at her residence,
Oakleigh Park Keilor, Mrs. Mary Delahey, aged 65
years. RI.P. (P.1, Argus, 13-9-1876.)
I'm not sure exactly what the eastern boundary of Oakleigh Park was. Was it just in c/a 10 or did it include land in c/a 11A. But I know exactly where Shelton Farm was.
The Dodd and Delahey families owned the northern two thirds of crown allotments of crown allotment 11A Doutta Galla (between Milleara Rd and the line of Westleigh Place)and land west from there to the river in c/a 10, but I was puzzled to find an assessment for one of the Delaheys for land on 11B. This land,bounded by Milleara, Clarks and Rachelle Rds and Buckley St had been purchased by John Pascoe Fawkner and sold to his co-op. members, part of it housing Dr Crooke's sanitorium for a while, but eventually about two thirds of it became John Beale's "Shelton". When John retired to "Shelton" in Ardmillan Rd, Moonee Ponds, James Anderson, another Keilor pioneer, occupied the "North Pole Road" farm during the first half of the 1890's and Henry Delahey probably succeeded him when Anderson moved to James Wilson's old farm on the west side of today's Hoffman's Rd.
DELAHEY.—On the 18th April, at the residence
of his son, Mr. H. Delahey, "Shelton Farm,"
North Pole road, Keilor, William Delahey, aged
89 years. Requiescat in pace. (P.1, Argus, 20-4-1908.)
See c/a's 10, 11A and 11B on the first of the Doutta Galla Parish maps. The Lauricella and Graco closer settlement farms were part of the Dodd and Delahey 588 acre grant of c/a 10. You will also see the Fitzpatrick farm at the end of North Pole Rd.
GEORGE DODD'S MOTHER AND SIBLINGS.
Loughnane - Birr, Co. Offaly Ireland
cathie (View posts)
Posted: 15 Jan 2001 11:01AM
I'm doing a little research on my great-great- great grandmother who was Margaret Loughnane.
According to the 1821 census at Ballybrit Barony. Margaret was 37, and married to William Dodd aged 39. They had 8 children George (15), Mary* (14), John (12), Margaret (10), Bridget (8), Robert (7), William (4), and Jane (2).
(*AHA! It was Mary, George's sister, who married Henry Delahey Snr., joint grantee with George of section 10, Doutta Galla. Her death record shows that she had the same parents as George Dodd and his brothers Robert and William. Her birth place was possibly King's County, Ireland.
EventDeath Event registration number9285 Registration year1876
Family nameDELAHEY Given namesMary SexUnknown Father's nameDodd William Mother's nameMargaret (Loughnane) Place of birthKING Place of death Age65 Spouse's family nameDELAHEY Spouse's given namesHenry)
John married Mary McSweeney* and came to Australia in 1840.
(Hoping to find where George's brother John had died, I found Mary's death record but as Murphy's Law would dictate, the one detail missing was her place of death!
EventDeath Event registration number5288 Registration year1859
Family nameDODD Given namesMary SexUnknown Father's nameMcsweeney John Mother's nameEliza (Horan) Place of birthKIN Place of death Age38 Spouse's family nameDODD Spouse's given namesJohn
Despite the lack of a given name in the funeral notice of John Dodd's wife and the lack of a death notice, I believe the whereabouts of George Dodd's third brother has been found.
THE Friends of Mr. JOHN DODD are respectfully
invited to follow the remains of his late wife to
the place of interment, Melbourne General Cemetery
The funeral to move from his residence, Yarra Falls
near Dight's Mills, to-morrow, Friday, at 2 o'clock
JOHN DALEY, undertaker, La Trobe and Spring
streets, Melbourne. Page 8, Argus, 15-9-1859.
THE Friends of Mr. JOHN DODD are respectfully
invited to follow the remains of his late son, John,
to the place of Internment, Melbourne General Ceme-
tery. The funeral to move from his residence. Yarra
Falls, near Dight's Mills, this day, Friday, 25th inst,
at 3 o'olock p.m.
JOHN DALEY, undertaker, La Trobe and Spring
streets, Melbourne.) Page 8, Argus, 25-10-1861.
Unfortunately there was no birth record of John and Mary's son William*- see below-who must have been born in Ireland.However,disguised by Mary's maiden name being recorded as SWEENY, they did have a child born at Merri Creek and as shown at Melway 44 F3, the junction of Merri Creek and the Yarra is right near DIGHT'S FALLS. I wonder if they were on the land where William Thomas made his last efforts to save his beloved indigenous friends from extinction.
EventBirth Event registration number41878 Registration year1848
Family nameDODD Given namesMary SexFemale Father's nameDODD John Mother's nameMary (Sweeny) Place of birthMERRI CREEK
It could take years to find which of the countless references to JOHN DODD on trove after 1861 apply to George's brother.
*John married Mary McSweeney (also born in Ireland) and emmigrated to Australia in 1840.
Their son William Dodd married Margaret Ritchie in New Zealand in 1886. He is my great grandfather.
William Dodd - Message Boards - Ancestry
I'm interested in finding out info on the Loughnane side and what happened to Margaret and William and the rest of their children.
Re: Loughnane - Birr, Co. Offaly Ireland
Christine Perkins (View posts)
Posted: 28 Dec 2013 08:29PM
Surnames: Dodd Loughnane
You have probably already discovered the following Cathie, but just in case.
Your (any my) great great great grandmother Margaret (Loughnane) Dodd immigrated to Australia with her children after her husband William died. She arrived on the ship Andromache in Jun 1840. She died in Melbourne in 1852. Her children settled as farmers in various places north of Melbourne, Keilor, Campbellfield, and later Benalla and Cashel. Some of her descendants still live in those areas but of course the families have spread far and wide by now.
MAGGIE McDOUGALL AND HER FUTURE HUSBAND GREW UP ABOUT HALF A MILE APART.
During the 1860's, Maggie's father, Robert McDougall was leasing the Aitken Estate, section 8 of the parish of Doutta Galla each side of where the Maribyrnong River comes within 240 metres of Buckley St. The north west corner of section 8 is opposite the south end of Rachelle Rd. The south east corner of section 10 Doutta Galla granted to George Dodd and Henry Delahey, Robert Dodd's father and uncle, was near Rita Court, just west of Arcade Way. His father and uncle were granted the northern two third of 11A, north of Lauricella St. and West Gateway which would be slightly closer, 1500 metres. We should make a history series about the countless brides and grooms who grew up near each other, and perhaps call it NEIGHBOURS!!!
The following confirms my suspicion that Robert Dodd was George's son. My word, Keilor can claim some renowned journalists as early residents: Edward Wilson, Donald Macdonald, C.P.Blom and ROBERT DODD.
MR. ROBERT DODD : FOR MANY YEARS AGRICULTURAL EDITOR OF
" THE AUSTRALASIAN."
Died July 14 at his residence, Mandeville-crescent, Toorak.
MR. ROBERT DODD.
THE DEATH OF A POPULAR
We have to record with deep regret the
loss of a valued member of "The Austral-
asian" staff—Mr. Robert H. Dodd, agricul-
tural editor, who died at his residence.
Mandeville-crescent, Toorak, on Friday
night, the 14th July, aged 56. He had been
connected with this journal for 14 years,and
was widely known throughout Victoria and
the other States as a man whose experience,
soundness of judgment, and uprightness of
character placed him among the first in his
branch of the profession. In his earlier
days Mr. Dodd had had a great deal of
practical acquaintance with farming and
dairying—he was the second son of the late
Mr. George Dodd, of The Oaks, Keilor—
and there was very little touching the rural
industries on which he was not able to give
a reliable opinion. Apart from his profi-
ciency as an agricultural expert, he had
other qualities which won him in a singular
degree the liking—rather the affection—of
all who came into contact with him. Every
acquaintance came quickly to look upon him
as a friend. Quiet and equable in his man-
ner he had a never-failing spring of humour,
which made him the pleasantest of conver-
sationalists and raconteurs. As his gift for
mimicry and witticism was wedded to the
kindliest disposition, no one was wounded
ever so slightly by the mirth be made; in-
deed, no man could be more considerate
than he to the feelings of others. There
was much virility and determination in his
character—he was a strong man, with well
defined views en most matters, yet the free
expression of them never appeared to make
him enemies. The wide circle who valued
him as a genial companion and warm-
hearted friend had watched for some years
past the courageous fight he made against
a severe malady which attacked him, neces-
sitating two surgical operations. His in-
domitable resolution bad a great deal to do
with the recovery be made. The heart was,
however, affected, and be succumbed to a
siezure which occurred some four or five
days before his death. Although his medi-
cal adviser. Dr. E. Barrett, had hopes of a
rally, a relapse occurred on Friday evening
last week, and the end came suddenly. Mr.
Dodd leaves a widow, who was Miss Mar-
garet M'Dougall, daughter of the late Mr.
Robert M'Dougall of Arundel, Keilor, one
of the pioneer breeders of shorthorn cattle
The funeral of the deceased took place in
the Melbourne Cemetery on Sunday, and
was attended by a very large gathering of
journalistic friends and members of the
Yorick Club, of which Mr. Dodd was a most
popular member. The burial service was
read by the Rev. Dr. Marshall. The chief
mourner was Mr. John Dodd, a brother of
the deceased gentleman, and the pall-bear-
ers were Mr. David Watterston (the re-
presentative of the Edward Wilson estate
on "The Argus" proprietary), Dr. E. S.
Cunningham (editor of "The Argus"), Mr.
E. T. Fricker (editor of "The Austral-
Fix this textasian"), Mr. W. Moxon Cook (sporting
editor of "The Australasian"), Mr. H.
Burrell (printer of "The Argus"), Dr. E.
Barrett, Mr. W. Davidson (inspector-gene-
ral of Public Works), and Mr. W. J.
Fookes. Among other old friends and col-
leagues present were Messrs. D. H. Maling,
Donald Macdonald, George Bell, F. M.
Robinson, and F. W. Lydiard. (P.32, The Australasian, 22-7-1911.)
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BITS AND PIECES.
I finally got around to reading the Brimbank, Delahey and Dodd entries in my Dictionary History of Tullamarine and Miles Around written in late 1989 and early 1990 from multiple sources, but not the internet of course. I found several references that I just searched for, without success, on trove. For example, the Dodd Brothers had established the Keilor Dairy in St.James Street,Moonee Ponds in 1891 according to the Essendon Gazette.
The 1868 Bailliere directory for Keilor listed John and Robert Dodd of Mount Rivers. I found no reference to such a farm on trove and it could not have been part of section 10 Doutta Galla, known only as Oakleigh Park with the Dodd southern 294 acres later being dubbed The Oaks. My conclusion therefore is the same that I came to in 1990, that Mt Rivers was all or part of the land in the parish of Maribyrnong granted to Henry Delahey's wife, Mary, George Dodd's sister. (The link for the Maribyrnong parish map is given in my final comment about Mary and George's sister, Margaret, who married Richard Fitzgerald.) Whether the said residents of Mt. Rivers were George's brothers is not my concern at the moment. I have made the statement that the Dodds and Delaheys were concerned in the doings on both sides of the river, which explains why this fellow was killed on Ballarat Rd. Many references to the Dodd family may be similarly disguised.
Raymond Richard Dodds, 26, dairy
farmer, of Keilor, was killed when a
motor cycle he was riding came into col
lision with a motor car on Ballarat
Road, near Sunshine. (P.8, Weekly Times, 26-5-1934.)
I couldn't find a death record for RAYMOND RICHARD DODD in 1934, so I deleted the given names.
EventDeath Event registration number4248 Registration year1934
Family nameDODD Given namesRichard Ray SexMale Father's nameDODD John Mother's nameMary (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathSUNSHINE Age27
I presume that his mother was Mary or Marie(Goudie) and he was born on "Brimbank" about two years before her death on 14-11-1909, aged just 42*. (P.1, Argus, 15-11-1909.)
DODD. –On the 18th May result of an acci-
dent, Richard Ray, loved youngest son of John
and the late Mary Dodd, of Brimbank Keilor,
and loving brother of Doris, George, John, and
Henry, aged 27 years.--R.I.P.(P.1, Argus, 21-5-1934.)
John Dodd died in 1945 and luckily his son Henry, known as Harry, stated writing a history of Brimbank, the Dodds, Goudies and Delaheys, continued by Harry's son, Raymond who later bought the Keilor Hotel and filled it with historical photos. The motor cyclist was obviously referred to by his second given name.
DODD.-On March 28, John Dodd, of
Brimbank Keilor, beloved husband of the
late Mary, and loved father of Doris, George,
John, Henry, and Raymond (deceased).
-Requiescat in pace. (P.2, Argus, 29-3-1945.)
This journal is about George Dodd and his siblings so I have not ventured into detailing their descendants but, as you will probably have guessed, John was George's son.
EventDeath Event registration number2816 Registration year1945
Family nameDODD Given namesJohn SexMale Father's nameDODD George Mother's nameMary (Coffey) Place of birthKEILOR Place of deathFITZROY Age81
The Brimbank Homestead is beautifully restored, as shown here.
Some of the information given by Harry and/or Ray Dodd, include detail about the stone walls used to separate paddocks, Richard's Lookout (probably on section 20, named after Richard Delahey), a later transition to market gardening (like the Borrells of Gumm's Corner) and John Dodd building a suspension footbridge across the river from Brimbank to the school- a photo of this bridge exists somewhere.
The school was between the river and Bonfield St at the top of the Bonfield Reserve from 1875 for about seventy years until relocating to the bottom of the reserve where the Church of England school had operated in earlier days. Therefore John Dodd's footbridge was probably below today's Garden Avenue with the children accessing the school via Horseshoe Bend Rd.
Donald Macdonald and George Dodd's son, Robert, (who married Maggie McDougall),must have attended the Church of England School unless they went to St.Augustine's School."The Anglican and Catholic churches opened schools in 1853." (http://www.victorianplaces.com.au/keilor) A different obituary for Robert Dodd (P.4, Benalla Standard, 18-7-1911)than the one included above seems certain that Donald and Robert attended the same school.
"Mr. Dodd, who for years resided at Sama-
ria (where he may be said to have gradu-
ated as a journalist, as correspondent for
the ' Standard'), was the second eldest
son of the late Mr. Ceorge Dodd, of 'The
Oaks,' Keilor, and was induced to adopt
journalism as a profession on the urgent
representations of an old friend and
schoolfellow, Mr.Donald Macdonald."
Donald would seem to have attended the state school according to his obituary below*, or rather the common school which the C. of E. school might have become in 1862. If I remember correctly William Savage taught at St Augustine's until state aid was withdrawn,and ran night classes to supplement his income. (I have no idea of the source of this information about William Savage. It may have come from the Keilor State School entry in Vision and Realisation published to celebrate the centenary of the Education Department circa 1972 or articles by Chris Laskowski in Keilor Historical Society newsletters during the early 1990's, compiled from articles that are obviously not on trove, where the only mention of William Savage, teacher, follows the name of George Dodd, as a donor to Catholic fundraising in 1868. At least this shows that William was a Roman Catholic. Page I-L43 of my dictionary history of Tullamarine and miles around has the following entry:
William Savage, the teacher at St. Augustine's school, became the first teacher at Keilor's state school in Bonfield St. on 5-7-1875.)
"Donald Alaster Macdonald (1859?-1932), journalist and Nature writer, was born probably on 6 June 1859 at Fitzroy, Melbourne, elder son of Donald Macdonald and his wife Margaret, née Harris. His father farmed near Keilor, but after their mother died Donald and his brother lived with an aunt in the town. He was educated at the local state school, becoming a pupil-teacher in 1876 "(adb.anu.edu.au/biography/macdonald-donald-alaster-7335)
THE LATE MR. ROBERT
The remains of the late Mr. Robert
McDougall, who died at Ellora, Moonee
Ponds, on Saturday last, were buried at yester-
day in the Melbourne General Cemetery. The
funeral service was read by the Rev. H.
McKail of Bulla, the deceased being in-
terred in the Presbyterian division, imme-
diately in the rear of the grave of the late
James McPherson Grant. Amongst those
who attended the funeral were nearly all the
members of the council of the National Agric-
ultural Society of Victoria, of which body the
late Mr McDougall was a few years since an
active member. Many residents of the Keilor
district, where Mr. McDougall had lived for
some 15 years past, also took part in
the last rites. The pall bearers were all
relatives of the deceased, amongst them
being his only son, Mr. A McDougall; his
father-in-law, Mr. E.(*sic) Rankin, of Ascotvale;
and his sons-in-law, Messrs. A. Cameron and
A. Smith. The late Mr. McDougall was born
on the 16th April, 1813 on a cold sheep farm
at the foot of Shiechallion, in the parish of
Fortingall, Perthshire. The first 17 years of
his life were spent on the farm, and then he
removed to the western isles of Inverness
and Ross, where he remained for six years.
At that time the immense fishing capabilities
of the seas in which these isles are situated
were unknown, save to a few sportsmen.
Here Mr. McDougall, who was an
enthusiastic fisherman, spent his time
pleasantly enough fishing and otter hunting.
In 1836 he sailed for Canada, and for three
years lived on the Huron Track, then a new
settlement. He did not take to Canadian
life, and returned to his native land. Finding
that many of his acquaintances had, during
his absence, departed for Australia, he decided
to follow their example, and emigrate.
After a 16 weeks voyage, he landed in Port
Phillip in November, 1841. He found the
pastoral interest in a very depressed
condition, owing to the sudden and great
depreciation in the value of both live stock
and wool. Soon after landing Mr. McDougall
undertook the management of the herd of
cattle kept by Messrs. T. and S. Learmonth,
at Ercildoune. Like most Highlanders he
was an expert manager of cattle, and in 1848
he commenced cattle-breeding on his own
account, renting a portion of the Glenroy
estate from the late D. Kennedy, and his
first stock were a dozen well-bred heifers,
which he bought from Messrs. Gardiner and
Fletcher, of Mooroolbark. The prosperity
consequent upon the discovery of gold in
Victoria gave him
the opportunity he had looked for,
and in 1853 he went to Tasmania, and
bought the two Auroras, mother and daugh-
ter, from the late Mr. Theodore Bartley, of
Launceston, whose stock were from the Van
Diemen's Land Company's stud. In 1855 he again went to Tasmania, and bought from the Van Dieman's Land Company eight very fine cows,
and from these are descended the finest
animals in the Arundel herd. From Cona,
Mr.McDougall removed to a property near
Essendon, which he rented from the late
Mr. Aitken, who came to the colonies in the
same vessel as Mr. McDougall. Another
fellow passenger was the late Mr. David
McLaws, of Tower-hill, near Koroit, and it is
a notable thing that several of the passengers
by this ship, who came to Australia equipped
with little more than stout hearts and
willing hands, all became successful colonists,
and died wealthy. About 16 years ago Mr.
McDougall purchased the Arundel estate
from the late Mr. Edward Wilson, and he
resided there till a few days before his death.
The story of his life from 1853 is a record of
the stud herd he founded; a herd that is
favourably known to cattle-breeders through-
out the wide bounds of Australia. When the
prospect looked darkest for the owners of
cattle, Mr. McDougall never relaxed
in his efforts to improve his herd by the
importation of the best blood he could secure
in the old country. In 1859, Mr. McDougall
visited England, and purchased some stud
bulls, but in this, as well as several other
shipments, he had more or less misfortune
through high-priced animals dying on the
passage to the colonies. He was in England
a second time in 1870, when he bought from
Mr. T.C. Booth, of Warlaby, the white bull
Field Marshall Booth, then a calf, and Major
Booth, both of which sires proved of immense
value in the Arundel herd. His last import-
ation was in 1883, when he brought out the
Farewell bull Sir Roderick, which soon after
arrival took champion prize at the National
Agricultural Society's show in Melbourne. Mr.
McDougall was a thoroughly skilled stock
breeder, and had made a careful study of the
subject for the greater portion of his life. He
had great knowledge and experience, and on
all matters relating to cattle breeding he held
strong opinions, which in public controv-
ersy he was apt to urge with more force of
language than those opposed to him liked.
For over 40 years of his life his best efforts
were given to improve the breed of cattle in
his adopted country, and owing to his energy,
skill and great judgement he achieved a great
success. For a short time Mr. McDougall
sat in the Victorian Parliament**, but politics
were not to his taste, and it is as a breeder
of stud shorthorns that for many a year to
come the name of Robert McDougall will be
familiar 'as a household word' with the
breeders of high-class cattle in Australia. For
many months past Mr. McDougall has been
in failing health. He was in his 75th year, and
leaves a widow and six children, one son and
five daughters, to mourn their loss. (P.9, Argus, 29-6-1887.)
*EventDeath Event registration number1516 Registration year1913
Family nameMCDOUGALL Given namesMargt SexUnknown Father's nameRankin Jno Mother's nameJean (Cance) Place of birth Place of deathEsdon Age79
**MLA West Bourke 1st Nov 1856 1st Aug 1857 Resigned
At Roseneath Cottage, near Flemington, on Wed-
nesday, 20th inst., by special license, by the Rev.
John Reid, Minister of St. John's Presbyterian Church,
Doutta Galla, Robert McDougall, Esq., of Glenroy, to
Margaret, eldest daughter of John Rankin, Esq. (P.4, Argus, 26-7-1853.)
McDOUGALL - On the 16th February, at her home,
"Corswall," Moonee Ponds, Margaret widow of
the late Robert McDougall, of "Arundel,"
Keilor, aged 78 years. (P.1, Argus, 18-2-1913.)
John Rankin was one of the earliest residents of Kensington and was the grantee of land at the south corner of Princes Street (later renamed Rankins Road) and Macaulay Rd. Roseneath Cottage provided a pleasant view of Edward Byam Wight's "The Ridge" at the top of Kensington Hill but by the time that Peter Eadie of Ben Eadie at Sunbury became his brother-in-law, the view was interrupted by the Kensington Railway Station.
EADIE--RANKIN.--On tho 24th inst., at Roseneath-
cottage, Kensington, by the Rev. A.D. Kininmont,
Union Church, North Melbourne, Peter Eadie, Esq.,
merchant, Sunbury, to Jane, second daughter of
John Rankin, Esq., Kensington.(P.4, Argus, 25-2-1864.)
Thus Robert McDougall was the uncle of Robert Eadie, who not only saved Winston Churchill's life during the Boer war but set up the platypus habitat at the Healeville Sanctuary.
The obituary stated that Robert McDougall had one son and five daughters. As indicated below they were:
SON. Alexander McDougall, married Jessie Forrester.
DAUGHTERS. 1.Caroline, married Alexander Cameron; 2. Jeannie (Jane) married Sandy Smith; 3. Maggie, married Robert Dodd; 4. Grace (d.1940 aged 77 unmarried.) 5.Helena, youngest daughter, d. 1950 aged 79 unmarried.
Birth records of children (1854-1879) born to Robert and Margaret. Victorian BDM has only three records, as below. There are 8 records for Alexander McDougall but none with the right parents named.There were no Carolines. There was only one result for Helena, with the wrong parents named. I'm sure that Robert, author of the shorthorn stud book, would have registered the births of these three, so the lack of them on the index would seem to be the fault of Victorian BDM.
EventBirth Event registration number372 Registration year1856
Family nameMCDOUGALL Given namesJane SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameMargaret (Rankine) Place of birthGLENROY
EventBirth Event registration number17766 Registration year1860
Family nameMCDOUGALL Given namesMargaret SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameMargaret (Rankin) Place of birthGLEN
EventBirth Event registration number20589 Registration year1862
Family nameMCDOUGALL Given namesGrace SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameMargaret (Rankin) Place of birthESSE
While at Glenroy, Robert stood for parliament, not being afraid to take on his landlord, Donald Kennedy.
The only other election on account of
resignation is that of a member for North
Bourke, in room of Mr. John Thomas
Smith. The candidates for this seat already
in the field are, Messrs. Donald Kennedy,
of Melbourne, A. Mackillop, R. McDou-
gall, of Glenroy; and Wm. B. Burnley,
of Richmond. (P.4, Argus, 9-6-1853.)
Robert and his landlord,Donald Kennedy,both of Glenroy, were appointed magistrates in 1857.
P.3, The Age, 27-8-1857.)
He'd been involved in trying to improve things as early as 1849 when he wrote a very detailed open letter to John Pascoe Fawkner, whose grant was across today's Victoria St/ Rhodes Parade from the Glenroy Estate.
Paste http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4774200 into your search bar.
An advertisement placed in about 1852 by Robert McDougall showed that he was taking a keen protective interest in the Bulla area. He warned that people removing timber from the properties of Alexander Kennedy (north end of the parish of Tullamarine, including the Inverness Hotel) and John Cameron (grantee of c/a 11 Bulla Bulla, which became Robert's Warlaby) would be prosecuted.For some weird reason I can't re-find this notice. He was later to buy Cameron's grant and name it Warlaby after the stud of Major Booth. The following comes from my dictionary history of Bulla journal.
WARLABY.(Section 11, Bulla Bulla; Melway 384 J8-homestead.)
See the heritage study:
[PDF] Place: Warlaby - Hume City Council
Warlaby is of State level heritage significance for the evidence of its use as a ..... that the Bulla property was named Warlaby after the Booths' stud, probably to ...
The study stated that not much was known about Maurice Quinlan. See my journal about him. Maurice was a bookmaker and for a time lived in James Robertson Jnr.'s Aberfeldie mansion that gave the suburb its name. According to one of my informants,probably Bob Blackwell,Quinlan's son became an Australian boxing champion.
The name, Warlaby, came from the stud of Major Booth who developed the Booth strain of shorthorns of which Robert McDougall was the prime breeder in Victoria and probably Australia. This brought him into conflict with Niel Black (grantee of the northern 777 acres of Gladstone Park and Western District squatter) and Henry Stevenson* of "Niddrie" who favoured the Bates strain.
The heritage study states that Isaac Batey gave John Cameron's name for Warlaby as -- but death notices indicate that the original name was "Tobernaroy".
DIED. On the 26th inst., at Tobernaroy, Bulla Bulla, Deep Creek, Mary, the beloved wife of John Cameron, aged 42 years.(P.4, Argus,27-9-1854.)
In "Memoirs of a Stockman", Harry Peck tells us that Frank Goyder, who was on Oak Park in 1880, bred racehorses and raced a few good ones such as the big chestnut, Sussex. Harry makes the apparently strange claim that Robert McDougall of "Arundel" (Melway 4,H/12) and Henry Stevenson of "Niddrie" (16, A/9) were neighbours. However they had adjoining land at Strathmore in 1880 with Henry on St. Johns and Robert on 200 acres to the north or east. Both probably bred Shorthorn cattle there, but there the similarity ended. Stevenson followed the Bates strain and was therefore a declared enemy of McDougall who supported the Booth strain.
Sandy Smith grew up on "Norwood" on the south side of Buckley St, between the Aitken Estate and North Road, Avondale Heights and would have seen plenty of his neighbour Jeannie.
SMITH - McDOUGALL - On the 24th inst., at the resi-
dence of the bride's parents, by the Rev. Hugh
M'Kail, Bulla, Alexander Smith, of the firm of King
and Cunningham, stock and station agents, Mel-
bourne, to Jeannie, second daughter of Robert
McDougall, J.P., of Arundel, Keilor.(P.1, Argus, 29-11-1881.)
Paste http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/74589268 into your search bar to see Alexander Smith's 1915 obituary.
Sandy or Jane later moved to Coilsfield which was later demolished for the construction of the Essendon Hospital. Old residents of Ardmillan Road to the north told me that a lane on the downhill side of number 39 was known as Smith's Lane because it connected the Smith house on the site of the 1857 Ardmillan mansion with Coilsfield. The owner of the Ardmillan Rd house, Sandy and Jane's only son, was named after his maternal grandfather and the house was obviously named after John Rankin's Roseneath Cottage at Kensington.
SMITH.— On February 4, at his
home, "Roseneath," 33 Ard-
millan-road,, Moonee Ponds, Robert
McDougall, only son of the late
Alexander and Jane Smith, "Coils-
field, Moonee Ponds, and brother
of Heather.(P.2, The Age, 6-2-1952.)
DODD - McDOUGALL - On the 21st December, at
Corswall, Moonee Ponds, by The Rev. Alex.
Marshall D.D., Robert Dodd to Maggie, third
daughter of the late Robert McDougall, Arun-
del. (P.9, Argus, 13-1-1900.)
MAGGIE'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number6800 Registration year1935
Family nameDODD Given namesMargaret SexFemale Father's nameMCDOUGALL Robert Mother's nameMargt (Rankin) Place of birth Place of deathHAWTHORN Age74
McDOUGALL (MacDougall) - On June
28, at her home, 9 McMillan street,
Elsternwick, Helena, youngest daughter
of the late Robert McDougall, of
Arundel, Keilor, and late of Holmes
road, Moonee Ponds, in her 79th year.
McDOUGALL - On June 28, at Elstern-
wick, Miss Helena McDougall, vice-
president and foundress (with her sis-
ter, Miss Grace McDougall*) of the
Melbourne Branch of the British Union
for Abolition of Vivisection (By re-
quest, no flowers.) (P.19. Argus, 30-6-1950.)
* EventDeath Event registration number6010 Registration year1940
Family nameMCDOUGALL Given namesGrace SexFemale Father's nameMCDOUGALL Robert Mother's nameMargaret (Rankin) Place of birthESSENDON Place of deathMOONEE PONDS Age77
To identify the fifth daughter of Robert and Margaret McDougall, I assumed that A. Cameron, the other son-in-law at Robert's funeral, was Alexander and searched marriage records for this name. I then found the death record for Caroline Cameron.Her address was given in her death notice. She was buried in the Melbourne Cemetery, Carlton.
EventMarriage Event registration number6547 Registration year1885
Family nameCAMERON Given namesAlexander SexMale Spouse's family nameMCDOUGALL Spouse's given namesCaroline
EventDeath Event registration number13848 Registration year1942
Family nameCAMERON Given namesCaroline SexFemale Father's nameMCDOUGALL Robert Mother's nameMargaret (Rankin) Place of birthGLENROY Place of deathELSTERNWICK Age88
CAMERON.-On December 20 (suddenly),
at 9 McMillan street, Elsternwick, Caroline,
widow of Alexander Cameron, and eldest
daughter of the late Robert and Margaret
McDougall, of Arundel, Keilor, aged 88
years.(P.2, Argus, 22-12-1942.)
Robert and Margaret's only son (to outlive his father, at least)was Alexander, known as Sandy, who lived at Warlaby after his marriage before moving to Western Australia in about 1900. He probably met his future wife while on the Aitken Estate. The Forresters were early residents on James Watson's grant between McCracken St and Lincoln Road, Forrester Street, named after them, being continued west through Mar Lodge and Butzbach to Hoffmans Rd as those farms were also subdivided.
McDOUGALL—FORRESTER - On tho 9th August, at
Blairgowrie, North Brighton, by tho Rev. J. Hay, Alex
ander, only son of the late Robert M'Dougall, Arundel,
Keilor, to Jessie, youngest daughter of the late Charles
Forrester.(P.5, The Age, 11-8-1888.)
Jessie would have been soon immersed in the activities of the newly formed Oaklands Hunt Club which had been formed after a paper chase ride organised by Farquhar McCrae, who was in charge of the hunters at Glenara, which started at Warlaby. And who do you think was the first master of Foxhounds?
MASTERS OF FOXHOUNDS
1888 – 1900 Alexander McDougall (https://oaklandshunt.com.au/)
Much information about Sandy, and probably photos, will be found in THE OAKLANDS HUNT, D.F. Cameron Kennedy, the centenary history of the club.
While Robert was on the Aitken Estate he'd issued strict instructions about what to do with straying cattle so that his breeding program wouldn't be compromised. Endeavouring to follow instructions cost a new employee his life. See http://www.familytreecircles.com/dr-john-dunbar-tweedale-pioneer-of-essendon-and-the-mornington-peninsula-vic-aust-67582.html
ROBERT McDOUGALL AND JOHN AITKEN.
A passage in Robert's obituary at the start of the journal concerns me regarding its accuracy. The claim that he arrived in November 1841 could be accurate or just a little bit out but the main concern is that John Aitken was said to be a fellow passenger.
Mr.McDougall removed to a property near
Essendon, which he rented from the late
Mr. Aitken, who came to the colonies in the
same vessel as Mr. McDougall. Another
fellow passenger was the late Mr. David
McLaws, of Tower-hill, near Koroit, and it is
a notable thing that several of the passengers
by this ship, who came to Australia equipped
with little more than stout hearts and
willing hands, all became successful colonists,
and died wealthy."
John Aitken of Mount Aitken arrived much earlier, from Van Dieman's Land, soon after John Batman had signed his treaty and had decided where he'd squat before his sheep, the ones that survived, had to carried ashore near Arthurs Seat in 1836 when the Chili went aground on a sandbank. An article, or perhaps a heritage study, about John Aitken or Mount Aitken that I read some years ago, stated, as I remember, that he had crossed at Solomon's Ford, heading west to the east branch of Kororoit Creek and then north towards Mt Aitken following a track that became the Calder Highway. This was the basis of my assumption that he had purchased section 8 Doutta Galla, (whose south west corner at the bottom of Melway 27 F8 was only 1200 metres from Solomons Ford) as a depot to rest his sheep being driven to market.
FROM DHOTAMA, PAGE Mc.33.
Robert McDougall's biography in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS 1888, stated that he arrived in 1842. It is possible that his ship was placed in quarantine for a month or so before he was allowed to go ashore to explain the variation from the claim in his obituary that he arrived in November 1841. Unfortunately, I only copied snippets of Robert's biography, such as Robert being on Glenroy for 14 years and the Aitken Estate for 10 years, but 29 years later, I still recall that it mentioned the success achieved by many of his fellow passengers. I did not record this but I'm sure that if John Aitken's name had been mentioned as an example, I would have done so.
Of interest is that Harry Peck had stated in MEMOIRS OF A STOCKMAN that Harry Delahey had married one of Robert McDougall's daughters. H.H.Peck was wrong but not by much because the Dodds and Delaheys were related and Robert Dodd (probably the son of George Dodd)married Maggie, the third daughter of Robert McDougall.
Most of the genealogy that I have provided here was in the DHOTAMA entry, obtained from Angela Evans' KEILOR PIONEERS:DEAD MEN DO TELL TALES. Margaret Rankin had been born in Hobart on 14-12-1835. There were also photocopied excerpts from Harry Huntington Peck's book and the catalogue of the Arundel herd to be sold on 1-12-1887, maps showing properties, rate book details etc*. Any descendants who would like the Mc. file could private message me requesting it and providing an email address to which I can send it.
*For example, Alexander McDougall was born at Glenroy in 1859. He did not move to Western Australia in 1900 as I wrongly stated before. In 1900 he moved to Camperdown but by 1907 he was a stipendary steward of the Western Australia Turf Club. Appointed chairman of Stipendary stewards in 1909, he retained the position until 1928 when he retired. He died while visiting a friend aboard S.S.Chitral at Fremantle in 1938* aged 79.
*This is wrong! Alexander died in 1937. Thanks to Janilye, I might be able to give the link for the report of his funeral. Trove
Were there two John Aitkens? A trove search in the 1840's revealed that there was a John C.Aitken but Isaac Batey referred to the grantee of Mount Aitken in this way. I have found no reference to John Aitken returning home circa 1840 which would account for a return voyage to Port Phillip in 1841-2.
While trying to confirm or disprove the claim that Robert McDougall had come out on the same ship as John Aitken, I found that Robert McDougall had been an auctioneer and was secretary of the Moonee Ponds Farmers' Society when it had changed its name.
TO-MORROW, JULY 14.
Unreserved Sale of first-rate
MR. R. MCDOUGALL
Is instructed to sell, at the Market Yards,
TO-MORROW (Wednesday), 14th. Inst ,
at One o'clock, p. m.,
30 VERY SUPERIOR DAIRY COWS
springing, and with young Calves.
July 12th, 1847.(P. 3, The Melbourne Argus, 13-7-1847.)
THIS DAY, (Tuesday), 14th INSTANT,
at the Market Yards,
TWO TEAMS OF WORKING BUL-
September 14, 1847 (P.3, The Melbourne Argus, 14-9-1847.)
THE (late) MOONEE PONDS FARMERS
To the Editor of the Argus.
Sir, — At a meeting of the Committee of Ma-
nagement of the above Society, which took place
pursuant to advertisements, at the store of Messrs
Thomson and Duncan, Great Bourke-street, Mel-
bourne, on the 18th of August last, the enclosed
Rules und Regulations, for the ensuing match,
were approved of unanimously by the Committee.
The most important alteration from the original
Code, as you will observe, was changing the name
"Moonee Ponds Farmers' Society " to " Port
Phillip Farmers' Society."
The Committee sanguinely hope that by thus
changing the name of the Society, the sphere of
its operations and usefulness will be extended ; and
that outlandish folks will have no plausible ex-
cuse for not furthering the good cause. The
Committee also confidently expect that the Editor
of the Argus (from his having from the outset
taken such a warm interest in the proceedings of
the Society,) will give an insertion to their Rules
in his far-famed journal. Hoping yet to have the
pleasure to meet you " amang the rigs o' bar-
I remain, Sir,
Your most obedient servant,
9th October, 1848.(P.2, Argus, 10-10-1848.)
Neil Mansfield's magnificent Bulla Cemetery Index shows that one of Alexander McDougall's sons died while he was on "Warlaby" whose homestead at Melway 384 J8 is heritage-listed.
1345 McDOUGALL Archibald William 3M 00/10/1895 00/00/1896 06/01/1896 Presb. 1 13 Son of Alexander McDougall & Janet Forrester. Died in Bulla, Victoria, Australia.
This is the death record of John Dunbar Tweeddale/ Tweedale.
EventDeath Event registration number2471 Registration year1897
Family nameTWEEDALE Given namesJno Dunbar SexUnknown Father's nameTweedale Jas Mother's nameMargt (Dunbar) Place of birth Place of deathMelb E Age82
It is possible that the doctor's father was a Melbourne merchant who had died by 1868 and the J.W.Tweeddale listed on the Wannaeue parish map as the grantee of crown allotment 1 of section A bounded by Old Cape Schanck, Grasslands and Browns Rds south of Rosebud of which the Tudor Caravan Park at Melway 170E 7/8 was part.
While researching for my review of Rosalind Peatey's SETTING THE SPIRIT FREE, I discovered that one of the Southern Peninsula pioneers had died, probably in Melbourne, despite the efforts of Dr. Tweedale of Essendon, and, as they say, curiosity killed the cat! I found a great story about the doctor and other pioneers living near the junction of Steele Creek and the Maribyrnong River at Melway 27 J4.
Paste the following into your search bar to get the Wannaeue and Doutta Galla parish maps:
digital.slv.vic.gov.au/dtl_publish/simpleimages/30/2611207.html See c/a 1 of A south of Jetty Rd.
digital.slv.vic.gov.au/dtl_publish/compleximages/46/2442850.html Map 1.
Before we get to the story, here is much information about the doctor such as his background as a Naval Surgeon, his family and various residences over the years as well as his having been "Acting Health Officer and Superintendent of the Quarantine Station at Point Nepean 1885, 1888, 1890, 1896 (VGG)"
ABOUT THE FARMS AND PIONEERS IN THE STORY.
Section 12 Doutta Galla was known as Main's Estate. It was subdivided in quite early days. Between Rosehill Rd and Buckley St were two farms: Sinclair's farm of 114 acres from Rachelle Rd to Steele Creek and 112 acres 2 roods and 19 perches owned by Dougal McPhail from the creek to Hoffmans Rd.
South of Mains Estate was the Aitken estate, by then leased by Robert McDougall who had commenced his renowned breeding of Booth-strain Shorthorn cattle in the early 1850's on "Cona" on the Glenroy estate and in 1872 would move onto Arundel in Tullamarine where he'd built a mansion that survives today with the balconied facade replaced by fenestration as the architects call it. Main had possibly bought his estate because of the bluestone available in Spring Gully and John Aitken would have bought section 8 as a depot where his sheep could rest on the way to market after crossing the original Solomons Ford at Melway 27 C9 (not 27 B8 as claimed.)
Peter McCracken, who'd rented Stewarton (today's Gladstone Park) 1846-55, owned "Ardmillan" the south half of crown allotment B section 6 and had moved from his dairy south of Derby St at Kensington into his new mansion which was located on present 33-37 (if I remember correctly) Ardmillan Rd, on the uphill side of Smith's Lane in about 1857.
Doctor Tweedale, having been a naval surgeon, would have needed and gained knowledge of European languages and was thus able to translate for the court.
The black man who'd been assaulted could well have been another Cape Verde Islander and speaking Portugese rather than Spanish; he was employed by Robert McDougall on section 8. Catherine Sinclair's maiden name was McIntyre as shown by the court report but I could not find her death record to confirm this.
SOMEONE WAS TELLING A LOT OF BULL.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5738984 MELBOURNE CRIMINAL SESSIONS.
Paste the part in bold type into your search bar to go directly to the letter about the various McCrae homesteads on page 25 of The Australasian of 23-10-1915. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/142981457
This letter was found by chance while I was searching for information about the original Cape Schanck homestead, and past experience has taught me that it is far easier to take a side track from any current research to record such discoveries than to rediscover the source later on.
It is in the last paragraph of the letter that the confusion is revealed. Both "Moreland" and "La Rose" were in the parish of Jika Jika. To access the parish map, paste the following into your search bar.
The last paragraph of the letter follows.
"Some time in the forties - or, indeed, it
may have been in the latter thirties (for
Dr. McCrae first arrived in Melbourne in
1838) - he built a house called 'La Rose' on
a property of his which he named 'More-
land' (and known as such to this day), after
one of the estates of his grandfather in
MORELANDconsisted of crown portions 133 and 126, containing 323 and 316 acres between the Moonee Ponds Creek and Sydney Road, extending, respectively, 2000 links (400 metres) north and south of today's Moreland Road. Michael Loeman, later a pioneer of Bulla, managed and then leased "Moreland" for about 14 years before purchasing "Glenloeman" on Loemans Rd which straddled the boundary of the parishes of Bulla and Tullamarine between Deep Creek and Jacksons Creek. (VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS: PAST AND PRESENT, 1888.)The Moreland Road bridge over the Moonee Ponds Creek linking the parishes of Doutta Galla and Jika Jika was named the Loeman Bridge to honour Michael's early association with the estate.
LA ROSEwas portion 141 of 270 acres and being elevated presented a far superior site for a homestead with views in mind. Farquhar McCrae purchased the grant and had built what is believed to be the core of what is now called WENTWORTH HOUSE before he dudded John Fitzgerald Leslie (Alphabetical) Foster regarding the transfer of the Eumemmering Run near Dandenong (in which town streets are named after both), was horse whipped by Foster and fled for his life to Sydney where he obtained a prominent position at its hospital. The extant bluestone mansion was completed by Coiler Robertson.
22 LE CATEAU STREET PASCOE VALE SOUTH, Moreland City
Statement of Significance
Last updated on - July 2, 2004
What is significant?
Wentworth House at Pascoe Vale, known as La Rose during the nineteenth century, was built from c1842 for Dr Farquhar McCrae. He was the brother-in-law of Georgiana McCrae, who made several references to Farquhar and La Rose in her diaries. Farquhar had migrated from Scotland in 1839 with his mother, wife, sisters and children, and moved to La Rose in 1842. He was from the Scottish gentry, and was immediately successful in the colony, becoming a magistrate and the director of several companies and a bank, and was prominent in early colonial society. He got into financial difficulties during the depression of the early 1840s, and in about 1845 moved to Sydney, where he practised medicine. During this time the property was leased and farmed by Coiler Robertson, who purchased it in 1852, after McCrae's death. It passed in the mid 1850s to James Robertson (probably Coiler's son*), a partner with Robert and Peter McCracken in one of Melbourne's most successful brewery companies. The property of more than a hundred hectares remained intact until 1899, after which it was progressively subdivided, after 1920 by the War Service Homes Commissioner. The house is now on about an acre. It was renamed Wentworth House between 1908 and 1911. etc.
(*James, described as a brewer aged 17 upon arrival, who was probably instrumental in the early success of the McCracken brewery, was indeed Coiler's son and the brother of Peter McCracken's wife. He is not to be confused with James Robertson Snr and Jnr of Upper Keilor and Aberfeldie (also related to Peter McCracken as J.R. Jnr's daughter married Peter's son, Coiler) or James Robertson of "Gowrie Park", now the suburb north of Hadfield.)
N.B. The source of the horse whipping of Farquhar McCrae by Alphabetical Foster cannot be found on trove and may have been in Sam Merrifield's Annals of Essendon or a history of early Victoria such as Bearbrass. However, while looking for it I discovered an article which gave detail about Andrew and Farquhar McCrae's brother, Alexander (obviously Thomasann Blackburn's ancestor, Captain McCrae*) who also settled in Melbourne, although I have seen no previous mention of him.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/141768540 (P.4, The Australasian, 25-1-1936.)
REVIEW OF ROSALIND PEATEY'S "SETTING THE SPIRIT FREE; THE PIONEERS OF THE SOUTHERN MORNINGTON PENINSULA" (VIC., AUST.)
Rosalind Peatey's PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS was a wonderful history of George and Susan Peatey and their descendants. I discovered it soon after I had started my research on the Mornington Peninsula in 2010. I was really excited when I discovered that Rosalind had written another history in 2004.
The CONTENTS are as below.
Introduction page 9, Port Phillip 11, John Batman 14, Joseph Gellibrand 17, John Fawkner 18, The Henry Brothers 20, Armytage and Franks 21,George Smith 22, Sir Richard Bourke 25, Magistrate William Lonsdale 30, Cape Schanck 37, Edward William Hobson: Kangerong and Tootgarook Runs 40, Maurice Meyricks (sic): Boniyong Run 46, Captain Henry Everest Adams 48, Andrew McCrae: Arthur's Seat Run 50, James Purves 56, Edward Latrobe Batman 58.
Apart from the subjects in bold type, this is more a history of the Port Phillip District than the Mornington Peninsula and new information was limited. In this journal, I will detail information that has not been seen in readily available sources and point out errors that could lead readers astray.
Page 14. "John Batman, who was born at Parramatta in 1801, the son of a freed convict, who had been transported for receiving stolen saltpetre, and a mother who had paid her own way out from England, with two children, to be with her husband. In 1816, Batman was apprenticed to a blacksmith in Sydney. This came to an end when he had to give evidence against his employer. In December 1821, John with his brother Henry, moved to Van Dieman's Land."
These facts are in his biography, http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/batman-john-1752 but are not often mentioned in articles about John Batman.
Pages 25-7 and 30-33. Rosalind gives an interesting perspective of the difficulties faced by Sir Richard Bourke and William Lonsdale to impose order in the Port Phillip District. While they had authority, anything that might cost money, such as a court and police to enforce proclamations, had to be approved by the Colonial Secretary in England. Lengthy delays in getting such approval were inevitable. Such delays were the main reasons that the Hentys, Port Phillip Association (i.e Batman's group)and Fawkner had decided to settle at Port Phillip without permission- as mentioned earlier in the book.
The New South Wales Government Gazette of 19-4-1837, pages 309 and 303, makes very interesting reading, being scans of the pages rather than a digitised version. Items mentioned include Captain Hobson's plotting of the position of the Crocodile Rock in Bass Strait, the naming of Hobson's Bay, William's Town and Melbourne, and notice of a sale of Melbourne town allotments on 1-6-1837.
Page 32. Dr Thompson and Dr Cotter- see under pages 35-6.
Pages 34 and following folding sheet. The census of 9-11-1836. Luckily this too is a scan rather than the digitised version which cannot reproduce columns. It lists the 43 "occupiers in town or proprietors in country" with the number of persons under and over 12 on each establishment, all free with no convicts. The only heads of establishments connected with the Mornington Peninsula's history on the list were George Smith (from 1843 to 1850) and William Buckley (in 1803.) Buckley had escaped from Collins' settlement and made his way around the bay to the Bellarine Peninsula. This trek has recently been commemorated with a William Buckley Walk inaugurated by former councillor Graham Pittock and the construction of a WILLIAM BUCKLEY REST near the boat ramp at Safety Beach. John Pascoe Fawkner is conspicuously absent from the list. He'd most likely planted his crop on the Crown Casino site and built his inn in Market St.(P.18) which Smith was probably occupying, but he had probably returned to Launceston to wind up his affairs there and obtain necessities such as a printing press for his handwritten newspaper.
The folding sheet has a plan of the part of Melbourne bounded by King, Bourke, Swanston and Flinders Sts., showing sections, crown allotments and purchasers. It shows Fawkner's c/a 14, section 3 in Market St, purchased for 10 pounds, where he built his inn, probably occupied by George Smith on 9-11-1836. Fawkner eventually had Smith evicted from this inn so Smith then built the Lamb Inn. The Lamb Inn might have been built on Crown allotment 2 of section 2, 40 metres east of William St between Collins St and Collins Lane, for which Smith paid 46 pounds. The waterfall at the foot of William St played a significant part in the history of Melbourne. It ensured a supply of fresh water upstream and a wide turning basin for ships where wharves were built, the very reason that the Customs House was at the east corner of William and Flinders Streets and the general market was north of it, between Flinders Lane and Collins St and fronting Market St of course. The rocks were eventually blasted and used to line the Coode's Canal in 1886*.
I've often wondered where St James Old Cathedral (where Henry Everest Adams was belatedly married in 1855 when his son Robert was about 9 years old) was originally located. Perhaps it was in section 15 fronting the west side of William St between Collins and Bourke Streets, reserved for CHURCH OF ENGLAND. Interestingly CHURCH STREET, named on the plan as the west boundary of the block north of Little Collins St, has retained its name and can be seen at Melway map 2F,B5.
This map alone makes Rosalind's book valuable as a source.
Pages 35-6. William Lonsdale's return of dwellings, stock and cultivation in 1836-7 (from the 9-11-1836 census) shows that John Batman's statement to Fawkner (recounted by Fawkner in his memories) that Batman had obtained in his treaty any land worth having is confirmed by most squatters having settled in the Geelong and Dutigalla
area (this having been the original name of Batman's Port Phillip Association.) The area on the west side of Port Phillip Bay must have been prized because access was difficult, involving a trip toward Mount Macedon as far as today's Buckley St West, Essendon, known then and for several decades as Braybrook Road and then west to Melway 27 C9 (not 27B8 as wrongly assumed by several municipalities for whose findings the Victorian Heritage Council takes no responsibility.)
"Dr. Alexander Thompson was appointed assistant colonial surgeon by William Lonsdale but (Lonsdale) was to recommend Dr Barry Cotter over Dr Thompson as medical practitioner in charge of the colony." (Page 32.)
Londale's decision* was probably based on the fact that Alexander had already moved to his run by 9-11-1836 and would not be in Melbourne to perform this role. Alexander had arrived in February 1836 but by November his residence was given as Barwon. His trip to "Kardinia" in January, 1837 as described in his biography must have followed some months spent preparing accommodation for the 11 people on his run.
*The following states that Alexander Thompson had resigned.
Pioneer Public Health Practitioners in the Port Phillip District
Presented by Dr Walter Heale.
Dr Alexander Thomson was employed by the Port Phillip Association to provide health care to new settlers. Arriving in March 1836, he was briefly employed by Government, resigning to pursue pastoral interests. His temporary replacement was Dr. Barry Cotter responsible for the care of military personnel and prisoners, and re-employed in 1840 during the quarantine of the fever ship the Glen Huntly.
Pages 44-5. Edward William Hobson's application of 22-6-1850 for the Tootgarook Run to be transferred to Mr James Purves of Melbourne. The second sheet is a declaration that Edward had held the licence for the previous 12 months, apparently a lands department memorial, volume 51, folio 834.
Pages 48-9. Captain Henry Everest Adams.
"We shall probably never know what drew Captain Adams to the Arthurs Seat area in 1842. Even his descendants have little to fall back on in actual facts.... Among the very first settlers on the Port Phillip side of the Peninsula, they chose the western side of Arthurs Seat where they took up a large area from the corner of Wattle Rd (Wattle Place since Lonsdale St. was built) and Nepean Rd, back to Old Cape Schanck Rd."
Luckily some descendants have worked hard to dispel myths in the family folklore, such as the captain being the illegitimate son of Lord Vivian and receiving a 750 acre grant from the Government in New South Wales. When Dromana was proposed on the other side of Arthurs Seat, it seems that the Village of Wannaeue was proposed on the west side. The captain may have obtained a LEASE of the village reserve until such time that there was sufficient demand to ensure good prices for blocks. When the village was alienated in the mid 1870's, the Captain and his son Robert received the grants for all that part of Section 20 Wannaeue between South Road and Old Cape Schanck Rd. Isaac White, the grantee of section 19, between Parkmore Rd and Adams Avenue was a friend of Henry and his wife and may have acted as a dummy to ensure that Henry could acquire that land too. There is no real proof of when the family arrived. Henry was also the grantee of 36 acres on the west side of Tower Rd on Arthurs Seat and 56 acres between Diamond Bay Rd and Mission St. near Sorrento. There is an interesting fact about Henry's marriage in my comment about the folding sheet after page 34 which explains why Robert Henry Adams and Mary Jane, nee Hopcraft, would want their descendants to have such a hazy understanding of the family history.
A family history may well be underway but anybody wanting genealogical information urgently may private message me.
Page 50-54. Andrew McCrae: Arthur's Seat Run. Very rarely do I read information about the peninsula that I have not already seen. Rosalind has done some great research here. Until I read this book, I was unaware that Farquhar McCrae (about whom I became aware in 1988) and Andrew McCrae had a brother, Captain Alexander McCrae who gave one of his daughters the strange given name of Thomasann. Rosalind can be forgiven for stating that Farquhar's "La Rose" was in Moonee Ponds; Moonee Ponds meant in the early days anywhere near the Moonee Moonee Chain of Ponds, not today's suburb, an assumption made by professional historian, Andrew Lemon, who assumed that Glenroy Farm was in Moonee Ponds. Andrew's son, George Gordon, himself made an even worse mistake, assuming that La Rose was on Uncle Farquhar's other property, "Moreland". See:http://www.familytreecircles.com/george-gordon-mccrae-s-boo-boo-about-his-uncle-farquhar-s-la-rose-homestead-victoria-australia-67571.html
Rosalind puts Andrew's decision to take up his run in context with her knowledge of the depression of 1842-3. I was thrown into confusion when I read: "Captain Cole had married Thomas Ann McCrae." I thought Rosalind was referring to Captain Alexander McCrae's daughter, Thomasann, who wrote a letter in 1933 signed as Thomasann Blackburn. This letter, http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/203820343 shows that George Ward Cole's second wife was one of two sisters of Andrew, Farquhar and Alexander, who had come to the Port Phillip District with them.
GEORGE WARD COLE'S WIFE.
EventMarriage Event registration number645 Registration year1842
Family nameMCCRAE Given namesThomas Anne SexFemale Spouse's family nameCOLE Spouse's given namesGeorge Ward
Cole arrived in Melbourne on 4 July 1840 in the schooner Waterlily, of which he was part-owner. He set up as a general merchant, and in 1841 bought land on the Yarra River near Spencer Street, where he built Cole's Wharf. In 1842 he married for the second time. His first wife had been a widow, Eliza Cantey, the daughter of Colonel Charles Brietyche. His second wife was Thomas Anne, daughter of William Gordon McCrae, formerly of Westbrook, Midlothian, Scotland. He had one son by the first and three sons and three daughters by the second marriage.
CAPTAIN ALEXANDER McCRAE'S DAUGHTER.
Thomas Ann(sic) Cole MCCRAE
Female 1852 - 1945
Birth 1852 Collingwood, Victoria, Australia
Christened 1852 St Peter's Church, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Died 1945 East Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Person ID I656 Victoria Pioneers
Last Modified 10 Sep 2008
Father Capt Alexander MCCRAE, b. 1789, d. 1861, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Mother Susannah DANWAY, b. Abt 1812, England d. 1870, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Family ID F73 Group Sheet
Family Maurice BLACKBURN, b. 3 Oct 1848, Campbell Town, Tasmania, Australia d. 1887, Avoca, Victoria, Australia
Married 1880 Victoria, Australia
Page 55. See digital.slv.vic.gov.au/dtl_publish/simpleimages/30/2611207.html
The Arthurs Seat pre-emptive right became crown allotment 1 of section B (331 acres fronting the bay) and crown allotment 2 of section B (309 acres adjoining Seawinds, south for 395 metres from a line (1160 metres long heading east from the intersection of today's The Avenue and the freeway)to another line 1940 metres long heading east from about Banks St.
Document showing that Joseph Brooks Burrell who had bought 331 acres in 1850 was applying on 16-4-1859 to purchase a further 309 acres to take his P.R. up to the allowed 640 acres, a square mile.
P. 10. Discussing the Rosebud area, Rosalind stated, "The struggle to survive in a not so paradisical land was possible, and survive they did, as many of their descendants are part of the community today. Of these, the most prominent are the descendants of the Cairns, Patterson and Crichton families from Boneo, the Adams, Bucher, Freeman, Lacco and the Peaty families from Rosebud, all here between 1850 to 1890." The error lies in the Freemans being given as much prominence as much earlier pioneers.
All apart from the Freeman family were very early settlers, some a decade or more before the Rosebud Fishing Village was alienated in 1872; in 1899, John Freeman had purchased 16 acres in the part of section 14 Wannaeue (between First Avenue and Boneo Rd)south of 50 First Avenue and the Hope St house blocks, that became part of Ramsay and Nora Couper's THE THICKET by about 1908. After Hugh Glass's death, his creditors had divided section 14 into parcels of 29 and 29 acres that became Hindhope, the northern half of the grant, and parcels of 20, 20 and 16 acres that became The Thicket.
In 1893,the Landhold Investment Co.was rated on 56 acres, Wannaeue, almost certainly Hindhope. Mrs Alfred Hicks (Harriet) owned one of the 20 acre farms and Ramsay Couper the other. In 1894 Jeremiah Brosman of South Yarra was assessed on 16 acres Wannaeue. This remained the case until 1899 when John Freeman bought the 16 acre property. In 1900 Ramsay Couper was assessed on Mrs Hicks' 20 acres which for years had stupidly been described as being in Rye (where Harriet actually owned another 4 acres.) In 1908 the 16 acre property had the rate collector guessing and assessment No 831 had Couper Freeman as the person to be rated on 16 acres; in 1909 Nora Couper was assessed,Ramsay having the other 40 acres of The Thicket."
Page 12. The term "De pasture licences" is used on the first of many occasions. The correct term was "depasturing licences".
Page 15. The impression given is that the Port Phillip Association was formed after Batman's treaty was accomplished and "private settlers were steadily arriving at Port Phillip." The land acquired by Batman was stated as being "the Bellarine Peninsula and the coastal strip from Geelong to the Yarra", quite ignoring that the treaty took place on, and included, land well north of the Yarra(such as the parishes of DOUTTA GALLA and JIKA JIKA.) The Henty Brothers were said to be members of the association which seemed strange because they had settled near Portland* before John Batman came to the Port Phillip District. (*Edward went first on the Thistle with labourers, stock, potatoes and seed. After a voyage of 34 days the Thistle arrived at Portland Bay on 19 November 1834 at 8 a.m. EDWARD HENTY, WIKIPEDIA.)
The Port Phillip Association (originally the "Geelong and Dutigalla Association")  was formally formed in June 1835 to settle land in what would become Melbourne, which the association believed had been acquired by John Batman for the association from Wurundjeri elders after he had obtained their marks to a document, which came to be known as Batman's Treaty.
The leading members of the association were John Batman, a farmer, Joseph Gellibrand, a lawyer and former Attorney-General, Charles Swanston, banker and member of the Legislative Council, John Helder Wedge, surveyor and farmer, Henry Arthur, nephew of Lieutenant Governor George Arthur of Van Diemen’s Land, and various others including William Sams, Under Sheriff and Public Notary for Launceston, Anthony Cottrell, Superintendent of Roads and Bridges, John Collicott, Postmaster General, James Simpson, Commissioner of the Land Board and police magistrate, John Sinclair, Superintendent of Convicts, Michael Connolly, Thomas Bannister, and John and William Robertson.
Page 17. Joseph Tice Gellibrand only had one connection with the Mornington Peninsula but the page about him dealt with Hesse and Gelliband's disappearance west of Geelong, not his trek through the peninsula.
Joseph Gellibrand - Wikipedia
Joseph Tice Gellibrand (1792–1837) was the first Attorney-General of Van Diemen's Land ... In January 1836 he crossed Bass Strait and, landing at Western Port, walked with companions to Melbourne.
J.P.Manifold and J.B.Were were mentioned as others who arrived from Tasmania. The latter was a major grantee in the parish of Fingal near Cape Schanck so another peninsula connection was missed.
Page 19. "(John Pascoe Fawkner) was one of the Port Phillip Association." Oh no he wasn't. Before law was established, the Association had forced Fawkner to move to the south side of the Yarra* where he planted the colony's first wheat crop.
Melbourne Cricket Club was founded in November 1838 when the population of the Port Phillip District was only about 2000.
The first cricket match was played between the MCC and a military team on the Old Mint site in William Street, Melbourne.
However, this area proved unsuitable and in January 1839 the club established its second ground at the foot of Batman's Hill, now Spencer Street Railway Station.
This was Melbourne's cricket ground until October 1846 when impending acquisition for railway use forced a transfer to the southern bank of the Yarra near the present Crown Casino site.
John Pascoe Fawkner had planted the colony's first wheat crop on this field, but it was susceptible to flooding and the club had to advertise more than once for the return of its dressing shed when the Yarra broke its banks!
Page 22. "(George) Smith's first move was to apply to the Governor Sir Richard Bourke for a de pasture licence, 'beyond the bounds of settlement.' Land at Woul Woul a Ballack, along the southern shore of Port Phillip Bay (seemingly from the early settlement of Lieutenant Colonel Collins at Sorrento.)" The assumption that George Smith's run was near Sullivan's Bay comes from the part of the following passage given in bold type.
FROM PAGES 208-9 OF "I SUCCEEDED ONCE"
Contrary to what is widely asserted, he (George Smith) did not hold a licence for Wul-Wul-aBulluk
on the Mornington Peninsula: a thorough search of the original Pastoral
Run Papers produced no papers for Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk in the box which holds
all the original ‘W’ Pastoral Run Papers.50 Wul-Wul-a-Bulluk is not a pastoral
run; it is the name of the house at Capel Sound where he lived in the 1840s.51
He did hold the licence for Tootgarook through the late 1840s,52 and he is on
Commissioner of Crown Lands Edward Grimes’ list for 1848 of people who have
not paid their licence fee.53 George Gordon McCrae described him as a ‘settler’
whose ‘little station’ was seven miles* from Arthurs Seat, the first establishment
past the Old Settlement site when travelling towards Arthurs Seat from Point
Nepean. It was ‘called by the natives Wul-wul-buluk’, and it was a little to
the south of what used to be called the Big Swamp**.54 George D Smythe’s 1841
‘Survey of the coast from the west side of Port Phillip to Western Port’55 locates
the first establishment past the old settlement site when travelling towards
Melbourne as Dr Hobson’s sheep station. It is perhaps a quarter of a mile from
the eastern sister on the track to Arthurs Seat and Melbourne, with Cameron’s
station*** a little further on, about midway around Cameron’s Bight.56 Smythe’s
map also locates Tootgarook but he records it as a place or an area with a native
name, not as a run; in fact he makes three of his characteristic dots for locations
of settlers, only one of whom he names, Freeman**** (Thomas records Freeman as
The simple, though for the time, extraordinary explanation is that George Smith
lived with Malvina Hobson nee Lutterell, mother of Edward and Edmund at
Capel Sound. George Gordon McCrae devotes pages to describing their lovely
house and garden and view, and Mrs Smith’s culinary achievements and her
kindness to the McCrae boys. But there is no record of a divorce from Edward
Hobson senior and she died as Malvina Hobson, as indicated earlier.
*SEVEN MILES FROM ARTHURS SEAT.
George Gordon McCrae was a boy, and even adult country people were said to be notoriously bad at estimating distance. Furthermore Georgiana's journal stated that these seven miles were from the Arthurs Seat Homestead ON THE ROAD TO CAPE SCHANCK! This was in relation to four year old Sarah Ann Cain being nursed back to health by Mrs Smith at Wooloowoolooboolook (George's spelling)after being lost in the bush for four days. Seven miles measured from Anthonys Nose extends to Dundas St Rye, and as the McCrae homestead is 60 chains (three quarters of a mile) east of The Rocks, George's seven miles would take us to the left edge of Melway 168 C3 just past Cain Road. As Owen Cain was on Tyrone by this stage, it was unlikely to be part of Smith's run but as C.N.Hollinshed stated in LIME LAND LEISURE that the Tootgarook run extended west to White Cliff, the first measurement (from the rocks) might be fairly accurate, the western boundary of the run being near Dundas St.
However, the following, which has little to do with the peninsula, should serve as a warning that George Gordon McCrae should not be accepted as the ultimate authority on the locations of properties.
**THE BIG SWAMP. Known as the Boneo or Tootgarook Swamp, this was between Boneo and Truemans Rds. Not having a map to consult, young George McCrae presumed that Smith's house was south of the swamp when the Tootgarook pre-emptive right starts roughly 3000 links (600 metres) WEST of Truemans Rd. Complicating matters, Rosalind was unaware that Edward William Hobson had left Tootgarook for Gippsland in about 1843 and been replaced by George Smith while Edward Hobson was managing the RIVER OF LITTLE FISH (Traralgon)* for his brother, Dr Edmund Hobson. She therefore plotted Smith's supposed Run much closer to Sorrento than it really was.
***CAMERON'S STATION could not exist if George Smith's supposed WOUL WOUL A BALLACK run was where it is plotted on page 24.
**** FREEMAN. It is possible that this Freeman was an ancestor of the Freemans named as pioneers of Rosebud, in which case, I'd need to retract my comment about them not being early pioneers, but proof would be required.
Page 23. About this time (circa 1838) Smith's wife, Mary, died."
There is only one death record for a Mary Smith between 1836 and 1843* and as George Smith had a son, apparently approaching manhood,this one would seem to be too young to be George's wife. As the so-called Mrs Smith (Malvina Hobson, nee Lutterell) who nursed Sarah Ann Cain back to health at Wooloowoolooboolook circa 1844 was born in 1799 she would have been about about 44 when she and George moved onto Tootgarook and it could be assumed that she would have been about the same age as George Smith, whose genealogy is a mystery. Malvina died in 1866.
EventDeath Event registration number159 Registration year1839
Family nameSMITH Given namesMary SexFemale Father's nameUnknown Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birthUNKNOWN Place of deathMELBOURNE Age20 Spouse's family nameSMITH Spouse's given namesUnknown
P.24. A map shows George Smith's Woul Woul a Ballack Run. Its location could be between Canterbury Jetty Rd and Portsea or west from Boneo Rd depending on whether features on the north or south coast are used as indicators. As in the case of all run locations shown, this is too vague to be of any use. Transposition on a present day map is the only way to indicate run locations properly but, as Rosalind mentioned, descriptions of run boundaries are so vague that they are useless. For example the Cape Schanck run description below should state how many miles the run extended west from Main Creek and how far north from the "salt water" to the "unoccupied barren land."
FOLDED SHEET BETWEEN PAGES 36 AND 37.
Early runs (approximately.)"As there is little to go on, positions of runs can be only approximate.George Powlett was the District Commissioner for the Southern districts in 1841 and later when Andrew McCrae's run was visited. Marks used to certain gum trees leave present day residents in confusion."
Irrespective of the accuracy of the run locations, Jamieson's Special Survey was not a run. Runs were leased from the Crown; special surveys were purchased not leased.The Arthurs Seat run is not in agreement with the 1848 description as in http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/225706715 because George Smith had transferred the land west of the rocks between the Cape Schanck road and the Bay to Andrew McCrae's run, as stated by Marie Hansen Fels in I SUCCEEDED ONCE. This former Tootgarook run land is tacked on after the semi colon as an addendum.
" ; also that piece of land
between the Cape Schank road and the
sea, commencing near the rocks or the
point known as St. Anthony's Nose,
and ending at the creek* at the junction
of the Point Nepean and Cape Schank
roads nearly opposite the end of the
(*Adams Creek, roughly THE AVENUE, McCRAE. Wattle Road must have provided access to the back road to Cape Schanck.)
The south west corner of the Arthurs Seat Run was at Melway 170 E 7-8 where the Old Cape Schanck Rd crosses Drumdrumalloc Creek (as stated below) but the map seem to show the south west corner just west of Boneo Road.
"On the north by Mr. Jamieson's spe-
cial survey 4 miles, on the west by the
coast line of the bay to the nose of the
mountain called St. Anthony's nose,
from thence along the Cape Schank road
to the Drumdunnuallock creek, being
boundary line with Mr. Barker, and on
the south by the creek to its source,"
No source is given for the locations of runs but since Marie Hansen Fels has mentioned Smythe's survey of 1841, let's see if it shows the WOUL WOUL A BALLACK AND CAPE SCHANCK runs extending almost to Point Nepean.
N.B.Some idiot in the lands department has transposed James Purves' Tootgarook pre-emptive right, purchased on 22-10-1855, onto the original map!digital.slv.vic.gov.au/dtl_publish/simpleimages/33/1690433.html
It must have been this second version of the map that Marie Hansen Fels discussed. It shows Dr Hobson and Cameron's establishments. digital.slv.vic.gov.au/dtl_publish/simpleimages/35/1690435.html
The following map shows that the Tootgarook run extended to the Bass Strait coast near St Andrews Beach. This completely dismisses the assumption that the Cape Schanck run extended almost to Point Nepean,and explains why the survivors of the ELIZABETH were given refuge by George Smith and why George bought the wreck.
The 'Elizabeth' Brig. — The wreck of
this brig, cast away on Sunday week, on the
shore near to Cape Schank, has been sold by
Mr G. Ralston, by public auction, and rea
lised the sum of £30 10s. The purchaser is
Mr. George Smith, Settler, at Point Nepean,
the gentleman who gave refuge to the ma-
riners shipwrecked in the above vessel. (P.2, The Melbourne Daily News and Port Phillip Patriot, 8-11-1848.)
P.38 (Re Cape Schanck.) "New laws had reduced the area to 960 acres. Barker gave the property to his daughter Edith, who had married Robert Anderson, and it was in their time that Barragunda was built. It was designed by Edward Latrobe Bateman, who shortly afterwards designed Heronswood in Dromana."
Robert Anderson married Edith Howitt*. There is doubt expressed in many sources that Bateman was wholly responsible for the design of Barragunda with a suggestion that he was responsible for the interior design. The original homestead of the Cape Schanck run was at Cape Schanck and it was the subject of a painting by Edward Latrobe Bateman.(http://www.wikigallery.org/wiki/painting_124949/Edward-La-Trobe-Bateman/Homestead%2C-Cape-Schanck)
A history of Boneo, discovered by the late Ray Cairns when he was clearing out Maroolaba before his departure to Rosebud, claimed that Barker had wanted Cape Schanck as his pre-emptive right but the surveyor did not allow this because he wanted treasures from the Angel Cave to decorate his garden. Howitt and J.B.Were were granted the portion of the run in the parish of Fingal and Barker's new homestead (which eventually became Clondrisse) was built east of Main Creek in the parish of Flinders.
*EventDeath Event registration number14385 Registration year1884
Family nameANDERSON Given namesEdith Mary SexUnknown Father's nameHowitt Godfrey Mother's namePhebe (Bakewell) Place of birth Place of deathTOOTGAROOK Age50 Spouse's family nameANDERSON Spouse's given namesRobert
EventMarriage Event registration number2825 Registration year1866
Family nameHOWITT Given namesEdith Mary SexUnknown Spouse's family nameANDERSON Spouse's given namesRobert
Also on page 38 is a map showing the Cape Schanck Run running north west along the Bass Strait coast from Cape Schanck. On Page 37, Rosalind states,"Cape Schanck Run was an area of approximately 9600 acres.." so it was the same size as described in 1848.
Name of run—Cape Schanck Estimated area—9,600 acres
Estimated grazing capabilities—600 head of cattle
Bounded on the W by the Wooloomerang Creek, on the N & NE by unoccupied barren land, and on every other part
by salt water. (P.1, Argus, 26-9-1848.)
The western boundary of the run was the boundary between the parishes of Flinders and Fingal, shown on the Fingal map as Main Creek south to Melway 260 B2 and Wallermeryong Creek from there to 259 J12.
The Flinders part of the Barkers' run must have been originally called the Burrabong run but when the parish of Finders was alienated crown allotment A of B (roughly Melway 260 A-D 10-11), consisting of 640 acres and granted to John Barker on 15-10-1855, was described as CAPE SCHANCK P.R. Therefore the Barkers' Cape Schanck run eventually extended east to adjoin Henry Tuck's Manton's Creek Run.
Page 40, EDWARD WILLIAM HOBSON.
"The records only state that Edward Hobson bought Tootgarook Run from Smith in 1838." Which records?
"Tootgarook and White Cliffs were runs that seemed to overlap." I have seen no reference to a run called White Cliff. It is possible that Owen Cain's lime licence was for a portion of Tootgarook but he called his property TYRONE, not White Cliff.
"It was in 1844 that Hobson overlanded sheep from New South Wales for himself and the Meyricks. His own were driven to Tootgarook."
I have read plenty about E.W.Hobson and have seen no reference to him overlanding sheep from north of the Murray.He was no longer at Tootgarook from 1843.
His younger brother, Edward William Hobson (1816-1890?), grazier, was also born at Parramatta. As a youth he served as a sailor on ships plying between Tasmania, New Zealand, Western Australia and Port Phillip. Early in 1837 he established a small run on the Darebin Creek, near Melbourne. By June 1837 he had moved to the south-eastern shores of Port Phillip Bay and held a run, Kangerong, on the slopes of Arthur's Seat. This was followed by the establishment of Tootgarook, a run between Rye and Point Nepean.* In 1843 he also took over a run at Tarwin Meadows, on Anderson's Inlet and held it until January 1845. (*Actually between Anthonys Nose and about White Cliff until George Smith transferred the bay frontage (east of Adams Corner to the Rocks) to Andrew McCrae.)
In June 1841 he visited parts of Gippsland, in the area of the Latrobe River. In April 1844 he left Port Phillip with a large mob of cattle, paused at Tarwin Meadows, and then moved on into the Traralgon district. Four months later he took up, on behalf of his brother Edmund, a run of 19,000 acres (7689 ha) in this area. On Edmund's death in 1848, the control of this run passed to his executors, J. H. N. Cassell and J. R. Murphy, although Edward remained in occupation. In 1853 the run was divided into Traralgon East and Traralgon West, Edward Hobson occupying the latter for a few months. Although reasonably successful up to this time Hobson, who had been made a justice of the peace in 1847, now lost substantially in investments in shipping*.
(*The oft-repeated claim that he owned the Rosebud when it was beached in 1855 and it was uninsured is wrong. He did own it in 1854 but had obviously sold it to James Purves who had insured it for 700 pounds with a group of a dozen brokers, some of whom would not pay their share of the payout, thus providing terrific evidence of these facts.)
Page 42. "The name Woul Woul a Ballak had been dropped." George Smith, from 1843 to 1850, called the run TOOTGAROOK. As Marie Hansen Fels concluded, the W word was the name of his homestead, not his run.
"Hobson had already transferred his horses to Tootgarook by 1840. His very enterprising attitude and aptitude always alert, for he now discovered he also had lime deposits on his land at Tootgarook. (That sounds fair enough!) He erected three kilns and put in tramlines across the foreshore (there was no coast road then)at Boneo Rd, Truemans Rd and White Cliffs (where a restored Kiln is on the foreshore.) The last Kiln at Truemans Rd was there until as recently as 1997-8."
The tramlines may have existed and lime was certainly loaded at Boneo Road, by the Cairns family and possibly by James Patterson who was an early lime burner too. The tramlines folklore and the 1997-8 kiln were more likely to do with G.W.Hiscock and the 1920's tramline his Cicada fertiliser company built from the swamp along the east side of Truemans Rd to their manufacturing plant on the motel site. I'm not sure whether the kiln on the east side of White Cliff is a restored one or just a replica. He would have needed an awful lot of workers if he established three kilns and it is more likely that the lime loaded at White Cliff was Owen Cain's; if I remember correctly, today's Centre Drive was Owen's loading road.
Page 43. "In 1850, James Purves, an estate agent and auctioneer in Melbourne, whose brother Peter had managed Tootgarook for Hobson for the past few years was to purchase it and continue to raise bloodline horses."
Although there was a notice re payment required for depasturing licences from George Smith in 1850, Smith may have already left for California by then. Without any certainty about when he'd be back, Smith had probably asked Edward Hobson if he wanted to take over the lease, but still being on the run named with a corruption of the aboriginal phrase for RIVER OF LITTLE FISH (TRARALGON), he would have needed a manager for Tootgarook until he could dispose of the lease. Peter Purves would have been running Tootgarook for only about a year before Edward sold the leasehold to Peter's brother. Two years later, Peter was joined by James Purves, his long-alienated son, after whom Purves Rd on the south slope of Arthurs Seat was named.
Page 46. Maurice Meyricks (sic):Boniyong Run. THIS COULD NEARLY HAVE BEEN PLACED UNDER NEW INFORMATION APART FROM THE SPELLING OF MEYRICK AND THE IMPRESSION GIVEN THAT THE MEYRICKS AND EDWARD WILLIAM HOBSON WENT TO GIPPSLAND AT THE SAME TIME. IT CERTAINLY CONTAINS INFORMATION THAT WAS NEW TO ME AND HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.
The Meyrick information generally agrees with that found in biographies and heritage studies but the surname does not end with S. "In 1845, Hobson and Maurice Meyricks travelled to Gippsland to investigate grazing there" needs some clarification. Edward William Hobson had INVESTIGATED Gippsland in 1841 according to the portion of his biography pasted above and leased land at Tarwin River from 1843 before arriving at Traralgon (Doctor Edmund's run)in late 1844 while, following the arrival of Brodribb, Bennett, Gorringe and Turnbull, "Another settler who came here towards the end of 1845 was Maurice Meyrick. The Meyricks were friends of Hobson. There were three of them. Alfred and Maurice were brothers, and their cousin was Henry Meyrick. Henry Meyrick wrote some very interesting letters to his people at home in England while he was staying at Hobson's and they have all been kept for us to read, and are in the La Trobe Library in Melbourne.
Maurice Meyrick thought that there was enough room for him to squeeze in between Traralgon run and Hazelwood run, but he had to get out, and Hobson let him run his sheep on Traralgon run while he looked for another place for them.",according to THE RIVER OF LITLE FISH, CHAPTER 2 (http://www.traralgonhistory.asn.au/rolf/chapter2.htm)
Rosalind mentioned that because of the harsh conditions Alfred became ill and died and Henry's loneliness was eased by the arrival of Eagle, a young man from their home village, but Eagle died shortly afterwards as well. The above source confirms and adds to this information. "Early in 1846, Henry Meyrick set out from Port Phillip for Gipps' Land with his sheep. He came round through South Gipps' Land like all the others, and left his cousin Alfred in Melbourne to collect their cattle and to follow on. Henry had, as one of his assistants, a young fellow called George Eagle, about whom I will tell you more later*. Eagle also had 200 sheep in the flock. The Meyricks had decided to take up two runs on the Macalister River called Glenmaggie and Glenfalloch. Of course you have heard of those names even today.
Well, Henry Meyrick eventually reached Hobson's with his sheep in April, and in his letters he tells his brother in England how he has lived under a tarpaulin for the last twelve months. The way of making a camp in those days, was to throw your tarp over your dray, and you had a ready made home. He had three flocks of sheep, one each Alfred, Maurice, and himself - but he had only had one man to help him look after them. He had 1500 lambs born to his sheep in 1846, and 1350 of those lived !"
*"Henry Meyrick kept the sheep on Hobson's run during the winter, and decided to go on to his runs up the Macalister after the shearing in the spring. But, on 31st July, 1846, death came to Hobson's. George Eagle and Henry were working together when about four o'clock in the afternoon, Eagle felt ill and lay down. He died within an hour. Nowadays we think he may have been bitten by a snake, but it was in the wintertime and there should have been no snakes about. Henry thought he had burst a blood vessel. Henry and Hobson got some boards to make a coffin, but when they went down the next day to where he had died, they found the poor fellow's body in such a condition that all they could do was put him between some sheets of bark and to bury him where he lay. If you are allowed to pass through Mr. Gilmour's farm, and go down onto the creek flats, you can see his grave. For over one hundred years there was just a grassy mound, and nothing more to show that there lay George Bolton Eagle, the first pioneer to die here at Traralgon, far away from his home in England, with just his two friends here, Edward Hobson and Henry Meyrick, to bury him."
Rosalind mentions that Henry drowned later riding for a doctor to attend a neighbour's wife. This too is confirmed by THE RIVER OF LITTLE FISH.
"After leaving Glenmaggie, Henry and Alfred Meyrick went to live for a while with the Desaillys at their station on the Thomson River. It was here that in May, 1847, a further tragedy occurred. Mrs. Desailly became gravely ill, and Henry insisted on riding all the way to Alberton to get a doctor, there being none anywhere else in Gipps' Land at that time. The Thomson River was in flood, and in swimming his horse across, he drowned. A coffin was made for his body when it could be found, but poor Mrs. Desailly died a few days later, and his coffin was used for her. His body was found later and was buried on the banks of the Thomson River."
In looking for an account of the Port Phillip Association "persuading" Fawkner to relocate to the south side of the Yarra, I stumbled upon Fawkner's memories of the events leading up to his desire to relocate to Port Phillip, his attempt to reach an agreement with Batman, his supposed sea sickness which prevented him accompanying Captain Lancey, the Jacksons, George Evans etc. Fawkner lists all the members of the Port Phillip Association (not including the Hentys as I had earlier speculated.) Above all, his account betrayed his jealous obsession to belittle the role Batman had played in the founding of Melbourne. Did you know that Batman's Hill had originally been named Pleasant Hill?
"On Saturday the 28th of August, the ‘Enterprize’ was duly moored to the growing trees close to the shore opposite to a Hill on which my men pitched their first tent and called by them Pleasant Hill, this hill subsequently by Mr B's toadyism, finding Milk, Butter, eggs and Poultry &c to the ruling powers that arrived in 1836 got changed to Batmans Hill."
A very interesting read.
Re Edward William Hobson, the Desaillys and Robert Jamieson. The Christmas dinner at Hobson's place is mentioned on page 41 of Rosalind's book. She wrote about the hardship (the struggle to survive)faced by the early settlers on page 10. The following article describes the party and the ordeal faced by Hobson's friends just to attend it. https://issuu.com/morningtonnews/docs/mn_20_december_2016/30
Just like George Smith's so-called run WOUL WOUL A BALLACK, the Desailly run TONDOMOHUE seems to have been a rumour rather than a fact. After two whole days of research on trove, no mention was found of Tondomohue. (It has been found now. See below.) Marie Hansen Fels seems to provide an explanation* for the naming of Desailly's Waterhole (Melway 252, bottom of J5)in I SUCCEEDED ONCE.
*Edward William Hobson sent the Desailley brothers to Capel Sound to erect some dwellings there. Bear with me while I search for this reference. On page 176 the first reference to Capel Sound appears."He" is Dr. Edmund Hobson.
"He accompanied Lady Jane Franklin on her overland journey from Port Phillip to Sydney in 1839, and while on a stopover at Port Phillip, he visited Kangerong. In 1840 he returned permanently to Port Phillip with his wife Margaret, spending time at Kangerong while he was convalescing from pulmonary disease. While at Kangerong he travelled by gig to Wul-wul-a-bulluk, the station at Capel Sound, for which he held the licence with his brother, and the place where a substantial house was built by the time the McCrae family took up their run at Arthurs Seat."
This, at the bottom of page 176 would seem to disprove any claim that Hobson bought the lease of the run at Capel Sound* from George Smith in 1838.
"Edward Hobson was the first squatter on the Mornington Peninsula, and the extended families, together with their connections, were deeply engaged with the Bonurong."
(*As shown on the Melway key map, the western end of Capel Sound, accessed from the Rye and Sorrento Channels, is at the most, just east of Canterbury Jetty Road where George Gordon McCrae's seven miles from the Arthurs Seat homestead would have been.)
Aha! I would far rather prove than disprove unsubstantiated claims. Tondomohue is said to be shown on Smythe's 1841 survey for which I've provided a link, but the spelling used was Tondanue.
I found some labels in the first map (with Purves' P.R. superimposed)and can find labels approximating Boniyong and Drum Drum Alloc Creek (emptying into the swamp)but I can find nothing resembling TONDANUE.
The second map (untainted)only goes as far east as Freeman's station and Tootgarook as mentioned by Marie Hansen Fels and does not include the area where TONDANUE or Tondomohue was supposed to be.
Page 181."George Desailley
George Desailley was another youngster, just 17 years old when he crossed
over from VDL. His father was Dr Francis Desailley and his brother was Francis
Junior. They arrived in the ill-fated Britannia on 1 April 1839: the father went to
the Glenelg River, then to Gippsland. The two young brothers went to Edward
Hobson’s Kangerong station and seemingly formed an outstation for Hobson,
marked on Smythe’s 1841 map as Tondanue at the back of Rosebud, en route to
Boniong. The connection was a family one; Edward Hobson’s grandfather, Dr
Lutterell, was a friend of both Dr Francis and Dr TA Desailley. The Desailley
brothers ended up in the Riverina holding 2,000,000 acres – the largest
landholding in New South Wales.31 Desailley’s hut is shown near Tondanue at
the back of present Rosebud on a Thomas map.32"
CAN'T WIN 'EM ALL!
I failed to find the reference to Hobson sending the Desailley brothers to Capel Sound to erect dwellings in I Succeeded Once , heritage studies or my journals but I know that I have given the source in a reply to Clive Smith of the Nepean Historical Society in a Facebook group in regard to Hobson's kiln and associated huts on section 13 Wannaeue (Melway 170A 2,3 west to about Chinamans Creek.)
According to Victorian BDM, Nathan Page did not die in Victoria but he certainly did. According to one report of his death, he left no family* so it would be reasonable to assume that he never married. That's what I thought when I first wrote about Nathan's death and knew nothing of the availability online of Victorian BDM.
*A case of determined suicide was discovered on the 17th inst., when an old man named Nathan Page was found
dead in his hut at Canterbury, about three miles from Sorrento, with a bullet wound through his head. He was dead when found, and was lying across the bunk, with a revolver grasped in his right hand. One chamber was discharged. Death must have been instantaneous,the bullet having passed through the brain, and out at the top of the skull. Deceased was about 70 years of age, and an old resident of the place. For years he had been employed by Mr Cain, as storekeeper, but about two months ago he left, and started lime quarrying. He leaves no family. A coroner's inquiry was held yesterday, when a verdict of suicide whilst of unsound mind was returned. (P.15, Weekly Times, 25-2-1899.)
I had found this death notice during my earlier research but there was no information that Bridget was the widow of the early limeburner. But it was enough to produce the sort of loose end which I detest!
PAGE. — On -May 26th, at her residence,63 Hawke-street, West Melbourne), Bridget, relict of the late Nathan Page, and dearly loved mother of Louisa(Mrs. Noonan), Elizabeth (Mrs. Childs), Edwin, Sarah, Fred, James, Dan, and the late Mary (Mrs. Brazil),and Will- May her soul rest, in peace.(P.18, Advocate, 9-6-1917.)
Having been unable to find Nathan's death record*, I wondered if there was a marriage record and without limiting the search to any time frame, I found just ONE marriage record. (*Eventually found. See end of journal.)
EventMarriage Event registration number1249 Registration year1853
Family namePAGE Given namesNathan SexUnknown Spouse's family nameGILDAY Spouse's given namesBridget
Unfortunately marriage records do not detail locations, but birth records do! There is no doubt that Bridget and her husband were our Mornington Peninsula Pioneers. Elizabeth's death record proves that the subject of the death notice was indeed Bridget, nee Gilday.
EventBirth Event registration number4917 Registration year1855
Family namePAGE Given namesWilliam Nathan SexUnknown Father's nameNathan Mother's nameBridget (Gildey) Place of birthPT NEPEAN
EventBirth Event registration number4740 Registration year1857
Family namePAGE Given namesMary SexUnknown Father's nameNathan Mother's nameBridget (Gilday) Place of birthMELB
EventBirth Event registration number14129 Registration year1859
Family namePAGE Given namesHarriett Elizabeth SexUnknown Father's nameNathan Mother's nameBridget (Gilday) Place of birthPOINT NEPE
EventDeath Event registration number4350 Registration year1925
Family nameCHILDS Given namesHarriett Elizabeth SexFemale Father's namePAGE Nathanial Mother's nameBridget (Gilday) Place of birth Place of deathBRUNSWICK EAST Age63
EventBirth Event registration number16762 Registration year1862
Family namePAGE Given namesLouisa SexUnknown Father's nameNathan Mother's nameBridget (Gilday) Place of birthPOIN
EventBirth Event registration number14792 Registration year1864
Family namePAGE Given namesEdwin SexUnknown Father's nameNathan Mother's nameBridget (Bilday) Place of birthDROM
EventBirth Event registration number24488 Registration year1866
Family namePAGE Given namesSarah Ann SexUnknown Father's nameNathen Mother's nameBridget (Gilday) Place of birthTOOTGAROOK
EventBirth Event registration number12163 Registration year1869
Family namePAGE Given namesClementina Gertrude SexUnknown Father's nameNathan Mother's nameBridget (Gilday) Place of birthTOOTGAROOK
(EventDeath Event registration number8147 Registration year1870
Family namePAGE Given namesClementina Gertrude SexUnknown Father's nameNathan Mother's nameBridget (Gilday) Place of birthTOOT Place of death Age1)
NATHAN PAGE'S DEATH RECORD.
This was eventually found by deleting his given name and specifying 1899 as the death year.
EventDeath Event registration number3896 Registration year1899
Family namePAGE Given namesNathaniel SexUnknown Father's nameUnknown Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathTootgarook Age77
WHY WAS EDWIN'S BIRTH IN 1864 REGISTERED AT DROMANA?
Nathan had selected crown allotment 21A, section B, Wannaeue of 130 acres 2 roods 32 perches, part of the subdivision of the Arthurs Seat Run. Its north west corner is opposite 284 Main Creek Rd with a road frontage extending 465 metres southward and a depth two thirds of the way to Mornington-Flinders Rd. Main Creek probably forming the eastern boundary. It is indicated by Melway 190 A-C 8(bottom), 9(top.)
Paste http://digital.slv.vic.gov.au/view/action/singleViewer.do into your search bar to see c/a 21A labelled Nathan Page.
The land was granted to John Cain on 5-3-1895. It is possible that clearing the selection had been too difficult for Nathan and that John Cain had taken it over, promising Nathan steady employment as long as he desired it, which he certainly did provide. It is also possible that Nathan and Bridget missed their old lime burning friends near Rye. It was probably because of this property that John Cain called his heritage-listed cottage in Boneo Rd just south of Bunnings "Midway".
THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT NATHAN AND BRIDGET HAD SEPARATED.
Perhaps Nathan liked his life in the bush and remained there where he was assured of regular income during the 1890's depression, and Bridget had moved to the city to care for an elderly relative, supported by Nathan's earnings.
WHY DID NATHAN COMMIT SUICIDE?
There were countless reports of Nathan's sad end and I am fairly certain that one, perhaps the report of the inquest at Sorrento, mentioned that he was in great pain. Suicides were very common in those days, the cause usually being pain, bereavement, financial problems or romantic obstacles.
AFTER WHICH BRUCE FAMILY WAS BRUCE RD NEAR MT. MARTHA, VIC., AUST. NAMED? (Also CONNELL, TASSELL, STENNIKEN.)
N.B. The designations of three generations of J.V.A.Bruce as J.V.A.Bruce 1, 2 and 3 apply only to those in Australia. The father of John vans Agnew Bruce 1,(d. 1863), was also named John Vans Agnew Bruce!
NO PROOF HAS BEEN FOUND OF A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE FAMILIES OF JOHN VANS AGNEW BRUCE AND STANLEY MELBOURNE BRUCE.
"Bruces of Paterson, Lang and Bruce, the well-known merchants of Flinders Lane, Melbourne, had a house on the Survey just to the south of what is now known as Ellerina Road, the boundary between the Shires of Flinders and Mornington. The Bruce family was that to which Lord Stanley Melbourne Bruce, one time Prime Minister of Australia belonged." (P. 45.)
The above quote is from Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA. The only other reference to Bruce in the index is for page 177 but I also recall it being mentioned that Big Clarke had given a portion of the Survey as a wedding present to his son in law, and this could only have been in Colin's book. A half hour's search has failed to find this claim. Interestingly C.N.Hollinshed, who based most of his information about Dromana in LIME LAND LEISURE on Colin's manuscript, often verbatim, must have also seen the claim and has presented detailed information on page 38 of his LIME LAND LEISURE, which I will paraphrase from my notes.
W.J.T.Clarke bought the Survey in three parts, the southern portion in 1851, the central part in 1852 and the northern part in August 1856. He sold the northern part to (Robert*) Vans Agnew in September, 1856 at a 600 pound profit.
* This is the only death record for Robert Vans Agnew Bruce on Victorian BDM.
EventDeath Event registration number6087 Registration year1881
Family nameBRUCE Given namesRobert Vans Agnew SexUnknown Father's nameRobt Vans Agnew Mother's nameMargaret (Mcfarlane)** Place of birth Place of deathST KILDA Age25
The obvious conclusion would be that the above deceased could not have bought the northern part of the Survey in 1856, because that was roughly when he was born, and that the purchaser was his father. However, the birth record features just one of the many mistakes in Victorian BDM. His father's name was John, not Robert, as shown by the death notice.
BRUCE.—On the 23rd inst., at St Kilda, Robert, the younger son of the late John Vans Agnew Bruce,aged 25 years.
(P.1, Argus, 25-4-1881.)
Robert's father had died in 1863, also at a very early age.
BRUCE -On the 5th inst., at his residence, Essendon, of apoplexy, John Vans Agnew Bruce, Esq., of the firm of Messrs. Cornish and Bruce, railway contractors, aged forty-one.(P.4, Argus, 6-4-1863.)
THERE ARE SEVERAL OBITUARIES FOR J.V.A.BRUCE 1. Born in Edinburgh and having received the sound education expected in Scotland, he followed mechanical pursuits with several railway companies there and after arriving in Victoria circa 1851 constructed roads and in 1858 with Mr Cornish won the contract for building the Mt Alexander and Murray River Railway as far as Sandhurst (Bendigo.) The obituaries mention his benevolence. (Such empathy was obviously not extended to the mainly Irish workforce on the railway as illustrated by the revolt of these workers soon after the line had reached Sunbury.*)
*http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/199607254 (Paste into search bar.)
It appears that from some reason or other, Messrs Cornish and Bruce thought it would be more to their interest to pay their men monthly instead of fortnightly, their ostensible excuse being that it was impossible in such a large contract to make out the necessary accounts more frequently. On various grounds the men protested against this. In the first place they alleged that as Cornish and Bruce received their payments fortnightly from the Government, they would suffer no inconvenience by paying their workmen at the same intervals. With respect to the impossibility of getting their accounts ready, it was urged that as English contractors, where the amount of wages, or at least the number of men employed, was fully treble that of the present contract, could pay not only fortnightly but weekly, without either trouble or inconvenience, it was not too much to expect Australian firms to at least pay as they were themselves paid. It was also reasonably stated that those engaged on the railway works were not in a position to obtain credit from storekeepers, butchers, bakers, or other tradesmen, and that really they could not support their families with the paltry assistance promised to bo advanced in the interval by the contractors, unless payments were made at less distant periods.
EventDeath Event registration number4125 Registration year1863
Family nameBRUCE Given namesJohn Vans Agnew SexUnknown Father's nameJohn Vans Ag Mother's nameCatherine (Robertson) Place of birthEDIN Place of death Age41
Robert's mother died in 1868. Was the whole family doomed to die young?
BRUCE.--On the 4th inst., at her residence, Tintern,Toorak, Margaret Macfarlane, widow of the late John Vans Agnew Bruce, Esq., aged forty-seven years. (P.4, Argus, 5-10-1868.)
EventDeath Event registration number7648 Registration year1868
Family nameBRUCE Given namesMargaret Menzies SexUnknown Father's nameMcfarland Pete Mother's nameSarah (Biffen) Place of birthIREL Place of death Age47
Margaret's death was recorded twice, the second record (number 9930) being identical.
The earliest recorded assessment (3-9-1864) of the Kangerong Road Board claims that Louis Edward Tassel was leasing a house and 1000 acres, net annual value 45 pounds, from William John Turner Clarke but as the tenant's name was actually Edwin Louis Tassell, it is probable that the landlord was wrong too, actually being "the estate of the late John Vans Agnew Bruce."
In 1879 John Bruce had been assessed on the 1000 acres, the northern fifth of the Survey. This was John Vans Agnew Bruce Jnr. Edward Louis Tassell had died young and the northern part of the Survey, known as the Brokil Estate was occupied for several years by a butcher.
EventDeath Event registration number1337 Registration year1871
Family nameTASSELL Given namesEdwin Louis SexUnknown Father's nameJames Mother's nameJane Place of birthKENT Place of death Age37
MOUNT MARTHA- tenders invited and received up to 12th Nov, 1874 (answered on 15th), for a three years LEASE of BROKIL ESTATE(lately occupied by R. B. Riddler, Esq , butcher, previously late E. L. Tassell Esq) containing 1024 acres good pastoral land, well watered and subdivided, J. VANS AGNEW BRUCE, Fletcher street, Essendon.
(P.3, Argus, 29-4-1874.)
JOHN VANS AGNEW BRUCE 2.
It stands to reason that John Vans Agnew Bruce 1 would have been a civil engineer and that his son J.V.A.Bruce 2 would have followed the same profession. In 1874, he was living at Essendon but two years earlier he was in financial trouble and living at Cranbourne*. Because of this temporary residence, I came across JAMES BRUCE of Sherwood Park in the parishes of Sherwood and Langwarrin. As this James Bruce probably died in Europe, it is not possible to determine from Victorian BDM if James Bruce of Sherwood Park was related in any way to the owners of the Brokil Estate.
*The following is a statement or schedule of the estate of Mr. John Vans Agnew Bruce, of Cranbourne,engineer, which had been filed in the Insolvent Court, in accordance with the provisions of the Insolvency Statute,1870 :
-Liabilities, £2,345 19s. 7d. ; assets, £135 ; deficiency, £2,210 19s. 7d. Mr. E. J. Powell,trustee.
(P.5, Argus, 25-10-1872.)
Both Cornish and J.V.A.Bruce 1 had died before their railway contract had been completed and in 1866 their executors sued the Crown for unpaid progress payments. The government's reluctance to do so may have been the reason behind the financial plight of J.V.A.Bruce 2 six years later.
THE GREAT 'TRIAL AT BAR' CORNISH AND BRUCE VERSUS THE QUEEN. Supreme Court--Thursday, Feb. 1. (Before the Chief Justice, Mr Justice Williams, and Sir Redmond Barry.)
Mount Alexander Mail (Vic. : 1854 - 1917) Friday 2 February 1866 p 3 Article
BRUCE.—On the 26th inst., at Spring Meadows, Cranbourne, the wife of J. Vans Agnew Bruce of a daughter.
(P.4, Argus, 28-5-1872.)
There are no names supplied for the mother or daughter but those details will be on the child's birth record, won't they? There is no birth record!
BRUCE—EADES.—On the 10th ult., at St. Paul's Church, by the Rev. S. Lloyd Chase, John Vans Agnew, oldest son of the late J. V. A. Bruce, Esq., to Jennie, eldest daughter of the late Richard Eades, A.M., M.B.
(P.4, Argus, 4-2-1868.)
EventDeath Event registration number2135 Registration year1893
Family nameBRUCE Given namesJno Vans Agnew SexMale Father's nameJno Vans Agnew Mother's nameMargt (Mcfarlane) Place of birth Place of deathHawth Age44
BRUCE.—On the 19th inst., at Currajong, Riversdale-road, Hawthorn, John Vans Agnew Bruce, aged 44 years.
This would seem to be John Vans Agnew Bruce 3.
EventMarriage Event registration number289 Registration year1891
Family nameBRUCE Given namesJno Vans Agnew SexMale Spouse's family nameWAYMAN Spouse's given namesSarah Grace
BRUCE—Wayman.—On the 24th ult., at St. Peter's Church, Eastern Hill, by the Rev.-Canon Handfield, J. Vans Agnew, only son of J. V. A. Bruce, of Rose Hill, Kew, to Sara Grace, second daughter of the late Thomas Wayman, of Rheola, Victoria.
EventDeath Event registration number9911 Registration year1901
Family nameBRUCE Given namesJno Vans Agnew SexUnknown Father's nameBruce Jno Vans Agnew Mother's nameEssie Jane Susannah (Eades) Place of birth Place of deathHawth Age32
The matter of another route to Dromana from Mornington along the foreshore, which will save a couple of miles and be one of the most beautiful drives in Victoria, is slowly working its way forward. The way is now
practically clear, as Sir Rupert Clarke is agreeable to give up land for a road through his property, and the executors of the late Mr Bruce are also agreeable to do the same. Before,Mr, Bruce opposed the road along the
coast; and gave £400 for one acre to effect his purpose in blocking it.
The.property of the late Mr Bruce, known as Sea and Spring Paddocks, is being subdivided into small blocks,
and will be offered for sale by John Buchan and Co., at the end of Jan.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 19-12-1901.)
EARLY IN FEBRUARY,
At 2 o'clock. on the Ground.
DROMANA, near MOUNT MARTHA.
Unsurpassed as Sites for Marine residences
In Lots to suit the Smaller Farmer, Market Gardener and Others Practising Intense Culture.
RICH ALLUVIAL FLATS,
Part of Jamieson's Special Survey, Renowned for the Excellence and Productiveness of the Soil, Especially that of the Well Watered Flats.
JOHN BUCHAN & CO. are instructed by the trustees of the late J.V.A.Bruce to sell by public auction, on the
ground early in the month of February, at 2 o'clock afternoon,
7 MARINE RESIDENCE SITES,
containing from 4 to 7 acres, fronting the Esplanade or Foreshore-road, running from MORNINGTON TO DROMANA on the southern slope of Mt. Martha, and commanding an uninterrupted view across the Bay, embracing the South Channel, the battery, Mud Island and the coast line, with its hamlets and towns, and ever varying objects to and through the Heads, as beautiful in detail as it is vast in extent, and presenting a never ending feast to the eye, while the grand ranges which divide Dromana from the ocean, and such a romantic character to the island scenery, temper the south-west gales. Some of the lots actually go to the water's edge, thus giving the fortunate owner the EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO THE SHORE which in older countries would be deemed invaluable. Being close to the town of Dromana, there is during the summer months daily access to the city by steamer and at all times by tram and coach, and as for rides and drives, no watering place compares in that respect with DROMANA,
Also ABOUT 1000 ACRES IN 16 LOTS agricultural, fruit growing and grazing land, subdivided as follows, viz.:
400 ACRES RICH ALLUVIAL LAND,
divided into 8 lots of about 50 acres each. This land is flat, well watered, is all cleared, has been fallow for many years, during which time stock has been depastured thereon, and it only requires to be ploughed and sown to produce for a certainty an ABUNDANT HARVEST, as when some years ago part of the land was cropped it gave a phenomenal return. Or for market garden purposes a supply of vegetables can be assured all the year round.
84 ACRES FRUIT GROWING LAND,
In Two Lots on the side of Mount Martha; light friable soil, kept moist by soakage from the mount, which also protects it from the hot winds, thus trendering (sic) it peculiarly adapted for fruit growing.
426 ACRES GRAZING LAND,
Lightly timbered, and of a fair agricultural character, divided into 5 blocks, varying from 40 a. to 130 a.,
suitable either for grazing or agriculture, or as park lands surrounding COUNTRY HOUSES.
This land occupies a more elevated position. is slightly undulating, and the prospect from every point of the compass is enchanting, while the district is proverbial for the purity of the air and the Salubrity of its Inhabitants.
Also, 42-ACRE HOMESTEAD BLOCK* bounded on 3 sides by Government roads and securely fenced. It is beautifully situated, with clumps of trees thereon; in fact an IDEAL RESIDENCE SITE.
The whole of the 1000 acres is fenced and fronts Government roads, so that each block (except the Bay frontages) will have a fence at two sides. It has all been surveyed by Mr H. E. Moors, engineer, and pegged out so that no difficulty can be experienced with regard to the blocks. It is part of the celebrated Jamieson's Special Survey, in the parish of Kangerong, and the land will be pointed out by the driver of the coach from Mornington to Dromana, or by Mr J. W. Hazeldine, electoral registrar and agent, Dromana.
Lithograph plans at auctioneers, 91 Queen street, Melbourne, where samples of the soil may also be seen.
The Crown certificate, at Messrs J.A.Wilmeth & Son. solicitors to the estate.No. 418 Little Collins street. Melbourne. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 26-12-1901.)
*SALE OF PROPERTY.-Messrs John Buchan and Co., of Melbourne, report having sold a block of land at Mount Martha, fronting the Dromana road,and known as the " three corner paddock," containing 42 acres 2 roods 5 perches, being part of Jamieson's special survey, and of the late (H.?)Bruce's estate. The price paid was £3 2s 6d per acre, the purchaser being Mr James Connell**, of Tuerong.(P.2, Mornington Standard, 29-8-1903.)
**You may recall that C.N.Hollinshed stated in LIME LAND LEISURE that Big Clarke had purchased the Survey in three parts in 1851, 1852 and 1856, the south, central and northern portions respectively. Colin McLear stated that W.J.T.Clarke wanted the survey to rest stock being driven to Melbourne from his Gippsland properties. As many graziers had such "Depots" so stock could regain condition on the way to market this was a reasonable assumption, but as there was no jetty at Dromana at the time and the Survey was so far from the shortest route, it may have been bought in the hope that the proposed Town of Dromana would result in a profitable land speculation. From 1846 to 1851 the whole 5120 acre Survey was leased by Henry Dunn but Jamieson became insolvent and the administrator of his insolvent estate was probably looking for increased revenue so that creditors could be compensated. In 1851, the whole survey had been leased out to three men, so Clarke was probably buying land with an assured rental income. It is no surprise that James Connell had bought the homestead block. He'd probably grown up there!
Evidently the first purchase of land on the Peninsula was in 1841. The special survey system, previously confined to South Australia, was then resorted to in Port Phillip. A person paying £5120 into the Treasury had
the right of directing the authorities to make him a survey of eight square miles of unreserved territory, subject to certain provisions relating to water frontages and other matters. Between March 17 and May 1 in that year eight special surveys had been applied for in Port Phillip. One of the applicants was Mr. H. Jamieson, who chose his 5120 acres between Mount Martha and Arthur's Seat. His area included Hobson's Flats, and was bounded on the west by Port Phillip Bay. A very well-finished house, costing £500, which was put up on this survey, was
at that time considered a very fine structure, and was probably as good a dwelling as any in the colony. The
survey was occupied for some time by Jamieson Bros, and later on passed into the hands of the Bank of Australasia.
In the middle of January, 1851, Mr Graves, now of Woodlands,Flinders, entered into a tenancy of 4120 acres of the area. The other portion, including the house, was rented by Connell Bros. When Mr Graves and his partner, Mr Brown Lee (who at the start, went in extensively for wheat growing), had occupied the place for about five years, it was purchased by Mr Clark (sic), the grandfather of Sir Rupert Clark(sic), the present owner. Five years after the sale Mr Clark (sic), Mr Griffiths(sic), and Mr Gibson, whose families are still in possession, became the tenants* of the property. The rental paid by Messrs Graves and Brown Lee in the early days was 10s per acre.
(P.6, Mornington Standard, 2-9-1905. Leonard Wilding's History of the Mornington Peninsula.)
N.B. Clark should be Clarke, Griffiths should be Griffith and the Clarkes couldn't be tenants as they owned the property.James Connell, who died in 1926 aged 73, played in the first football match FOUGHT OUT on the peninsula.
Being of magnificent physique, he was an athlete of no mean repute, and took part in the first historic football
match played on the Peninsula. This was when two teams, captained by the Barker brothers, of Barker's station, Flinders, just home from college - from the Flinders and Balnarring districts met at Balnarring. Football was played for ten minutes and then the two teams fought each other until dark, some players even being chased to their homes.(P.6, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 25-6-1926.)
The homestead block or triangle paddock was almost certainly the triangle north of McKenzie's Junction (Melway 151C11) bounded by the Nepean Highway, Old Moorooduc Rd and a line connecting Bruce Rd and Foxeys Rd. Brokil Creek (renamed after Edwin Louis Tassell near its mouth) runs under Nepean Highway at the north west corner of the triangle.
It seems certain that this was the "triangular block, the base of which was formed by Nepean Highway and the sides of Moorooduc Road and the higher reaches of Tassells Creek" which Samuel Stenniken "had" near Dromana according to page 45 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA. He was obviously leasing the paddock from J.V.A.Bruce 2. I recall that Sam had purchased land farther north and he may have used these as depots when taking stock to market. The advantage to John Bruce 2 would probably be that when he arrived for "the Season", the homestead would not be surrounded by long dry grass, presenting risk of a wildfire, as well as rental paid. Colin McLear continued, "When the Bruces holidayed there, (Sam's daughter) Maria (1855-1927)worked as a maid in their house." This would have been before her marriage to Godfrey Burdett Wilson in 1878.
JOHN MUNRO BRUCE.
Stanley Melbourne Bruce (1883-1967), businessman, prime minister and public servant, was born on 15 April 1883 at St Kilda, Victoria, youngest of five children of John Munro Bruce and his wife Mary Ann, née Henderson. His parents were comfortably circumstanced, his father having become a partner in the softgoods importing firm of Paterson, Laing & Bruce in 1878. (Australian Dictionary of Biography.)
Was John Munro Bruce a brother of J.V.A.Bruce 1?
This would seem not to be the case.
BRUCE.—(By cable)—On the 3rd inst, at London, Susannah Herbert, widow of the late William Duff Bruce, C.E., brother of the late John Munro Bruce and George W.Bruce, of Melbourne ,and sister of William Henry Lloyd, "Wimmera," Geelong. Deeply regretted.(P.1, Geelong Advertiser, 6-4-1907.)
Nothing in his obituary points to any similarity in his background and that of J.V.A.Bruce 1.
DEATH OF MR. J. M. BRUCE. OCCURS SUDDENLY IN PARIS. LONDON, 6th May.
Leader (Melbourne, Vic. : 1862 - 1918) Saturday 11 May 1901 p 27 Article
Mr. John Munro Bruce was born on 10th October, 1840, at Brooklawn, County of Leitrim, Ireland, and was educated at Madras College, St.Andrew's. Scotland. In 1853 he went to Newry, where he was apprenticed to Henry Hawkins and Co. for five years. A few days after completing his apprenticeship he sailed for Melbourne, in fulfilment of a desire of long standing, in the Ellen Stuart, arriving here 8th December, 1858.
JAMES BRUCE OF SHERWOOD PARK.
FOR SALE by PRIVATE CONTRACT.
Parish of Sherwood.
- Near Cranbourne,
Close to Dr. Adams's woll-known Homestead,
That First-class Grazing Estate, Known as
The Property of James Bruce, Esq. (now in Europe),
3691A. 1 R. 25 P. (P.2, Argus, 18-7-1876.)
A man named William Anderson was driving
a horse and cart along the Keilor road, on the
15th. inst., when the horse, which was a young,
one, and not much accustomed to harness, got
frightened and bolted. The man was thrown out
of the dray, and on being picked up he was found
to be insensible; his foot was also dreadfully
smashed. He was removed to the Hospital, and
as soon as he had rallied a little from the shock,
amputation was performed. He progressed fa-
vorably for a few days, when he grew worse,
gradually sank, and died on the 25th inst. An
inquest was held on the body yesterday, and the
jury returned a verdict in accordance with the
evidence. (P.4, The Age, 28-2-1862.)
EventDeath Event registration number2306 Registration year1862
Family nameANDERSON Given namesWilliam SexUnknown Father's nameU Mother's name Place of birth Place of death Age56
One of the Keilor historical souvenirs had the family's story and stated that the accident happened near the Keilor bridge. The death was obviously registered at the hospital in Melbourne.
From the Keilor Centenary Souvenir 1950 transcribed by hand into D.H.O.T.A.M.A. in 1989,sourced for this passage on page 54 of my EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA and copied to here.
Blacksmith, William Anderson was killed in an accident near the toll gate at the Keilor bridge (Brees’ 1854 bridge) on 25-2-1862, leaving his wife Catherine (nee Clark) and children, Janet, Catherine, Margaret, Alex. and James. The widow was Keilor’s midwife for thirty years until dying in September 1892. The daughter named after her seems to have been a pioneer of Ardmillan Rd from 1877 until 1894* (at old No.81, now 65 and 65A and from March 1909 Miss Morris’s Blinkbonnie Ladies College), (when she probably moved back into her late mother’s Keilor residenceX). James worked at many occupations including that of shearer, was an overseer at Arundel in 1868, and in 1882 bought a butcher’s shop in Keilor. When that was sold, he and his wife (Annie Grace, daughter of Donald Stewart) went to a farm on North Pole Rd (50 acres in section 12 on the west side of Spring Gully) and afterwards to Springbank.
* POSTSCRIPT. This Miss Catherine Anderson (in the directories) was obviously Mrs Catherine Anderson who still owned her Ardmillan Rd house in 1892 but had moved into the homestead of Shelton Farm with James and Annie. After her death, she'd still be listed until someone like Miss Morris replaced her as occupant. William and Catherine's daughter, Catherine, had become Mrs Aitken and died in 1884.
A press report of the Oakland Hunt Club’s meet of 20-5- 1899 says that the quarry was chased around Pinnacle Hill to a slaughterhouse, then east to Anderson’s well-kept farm etc. James later, some time after 1930, moved to a farm called Braeside (the 30 ½ acres in Keilor containing Meehan Ct, Watson Rise, Fleming Ct and Tan Ct), where he died on 2-6-1943 at 96. His son Don bought a part of William O’Neil’s Horseshoe Bend Farm in 1937 and his orchard became a feature for those descending down Curley’s Hill into Keilor. Don’s son, Peter, married a daughter of the Hendersons from Tullamarine and still lives across Church St from his grandfather’s Braeside land.
In 1900 James Anderson was farming Springbank of 179 acres and 214 acres (probably Sinclair’s Farm of 114 acres and two farms of about 50 acres each fronting the north side of Rose Hill Rd. He also had 50 acres accessed from North Pole Road (Cox’s Farm, lot 10 of section 12). He later owned “Braeside” on the hill overlooking Church St. and Green Gully Rd. at Keilor.
SPRINGBANK.(From EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA.)
LOTS 11?,9?,7. SPRINGBANK.
On 9-8-1855, James Wilson bought Spring Bank from J.P.Main for 4732 pounds. Wilson claimed to have established the farm in 1857 (Victoria and Its Metropolis 1888). Did he mortgage it straight after the purchase and take two years to pay it off? This land ran south 4008 links from the northern boundary of section 12 to the northern boundary of Niddrie Secondary College (29 662.) These boundaries explain the bends in Newman Cres. (north) and Garnet St (south). It is of interest that John Wilson started leasing 18c (which touches the n/w corner of section 12) from J.P.Bear on 31-7- 1855, just over a week before James Wilson bought Springbank.
Wilson’s family seems to have owned the property until 1918. James Anderson was occupying Springbank, possibly by 1895 (1918-23 years) and certainly by mid 1899 (Oaklands Hunt report) and was still there in 1930, his address being given as Buckley Park (Vol.534 fol.973). No mention of Springbank is made in the James Wilson or James Anderson title index but “Sam Merrifield’s House Names Index” contains an entry claiming that Anderson owned the farm. (Owner Mr Anderson. Occupier Mr Swan, butcher of Essendon. Vide Essendon Gazette 8/2/1900. 2 storied brick mansion. Abuts Conniston Ave. Demolished 1930’s.) Conniston Ave. could have been Hoffmans Rd or Teague St.
Land Plan 10004, lodged by C.R.Anderson on 27-11-1923, deals with the subdivision of Springbank. The plan shows that the northern boundary of section 12 was the front fenceline of houses on the north side of Farrell St. The south boundary of Springbank was at the southern end of the bend in Garnet St. See further details at end of Section 12 entry under Hoffmans Rd heading.
Peter Anderson told me that James Anderson’s youngest son was named Colin when I asked if he’d heard of C.R.Anderson. However, the second Christian name of Colin, born in 1900 at Keilor to James Anderson and Annie (nee Stewart), was Lindsay. C.R.Anderson lodged many land plans and was probably no relation of the Springbank farmer.
From page A.17 of DHOTAMA but not mentioned above, sourced from Keilor Centenary Souvenir 1950.
James Anderson of "Braeside" was the son of Mr William Anderson and was born in Fifeshire, Scotland, in 1847. He arrived in Victoria at the age of seven and his father set up at Keilor as a blacksmith. James's father was killed as the result of an accident near the toll gate at the bridge. James was a versatile man and followed several rural occupations including that of shearer.He owned several racehorses and won 21 steeplechases with the noted Springfield, trained by Mr. Wally Cox, father of Mr.W.S.Cox, secretary of the Moonee Valley Racing Club. Another of his horses to be successful on the Victorian turf was Zircon.
James Anderson's wife was the daughter of Donald Stewart who came out in early days and joined up with Cornish and Bruce, contractors for the construction of the Bendigo railway. Mr Stewart remained with the construction as far as Sunbury and was there associated with the railway for the rest of his life. James Anderson who died on 2-6-1943 at the age of 96 was buried in the Presbyterian section at the Keilor Cemetery.
The Anderson family (i.e. James) had their dairy farm on the present area of the Hoffmans Rd shopping centre. The Anderson home was on the site of the service station*.(Proclamation of the City of Keilor 1961.) (*Postscript 22-10-1992. On the south corner of Teague St and Hoffmans Rd, demolished nine months ago.)
The Keilor ratebook of 1868 shows that Catherine Anderson paid rates on a house on half an acre in Keilor Village. She was probably William's widow. The 1868 directory listed: J.W.Anderson, overseer, Arundel. This was probably James, born in 1847 and thus about 21 years old.
IN 1950 THERE WAS A HOUSING SHORTAGE DUE TO W.W.2 RESTRICTIONS ON THE AVAILABILITY OF MATERIALS, BUILDERS STILL NEEDING A PERMIT TO PURCHASE SAME FOR SOME YEARS THEREAFTER.
The housing problem in 1882 was just as acute as it is now, and Mr and Mrs Anderson bought a butchery business in Keilor to get occupation of the residential portion.When it was sold, they went to the farm on the North Pole (Milleara) Road and later to Springbank.(Keilor Centenary Souvenir 1950.)
I had earlier thought that this North Pole Rd farm might have been Cox's farm accessed from North Pole Rd along the present Clark's Rd, UNTIL I found the death notice of William's widow, the mother of James. Crown allotment 11B, Doutta Galla was bounded by today's Milleara, Clarks and Rachelle Rds, extending south to Buckley St. It was granted to John Pascoe Fawkner with blocks allocated to his land co-op. members. John Beale finished up owning at least two thirds of the land and called his farm "Shelton". He later retired to Admillan Rd,Moonee Ponds, naming his new residence "Shelton". Another early resident of this street was Miss Catherine Anderson, who has been mentioned before.
ANDERSON.—On the 10th inst., at her son's residence, Shelton Farm, Keilor, Catherine, relict of the late
William Anderson of Keilor, aged 87 years.
The Friends of Mr. JAMES ANDERSON are respectfully invited to follow the remains of his late beloved mother, Mrs. Catherine Anderson to her place of interment, in the Melbourne General Cemetery.
The funeral will leave his residence, Shelton Farm,Keilor THIS DAY (Monday, 12th inst.), at 1 o'clock.
(Both P.1, Argus, 12-9-1892.)
CATHERINE'S MAIDEN NAME IS CONFIRMED IN THE DEATH RECORD OF JAMES.
EventDeath Event registration number10668 Registration year1892
Family nameANDERSON Given namesCath SexFemale Father's nameClarke Hy Mother's nameCath (Spence) Place of birth Place of deathKeilor Age87
EventDeath Event registration number5543 Registration year1943
Family nameANDERSON Given namesJames SexMale Father's nameANDERSON William Mother's nameCathrine (Clark) Place of birthSPRINGFIELD SCOTLAND Place of deathKEILOR Age96
JAMES ANDERSON'S AUNT. Shelton was an aged care home for two years!
WILKIE— On the 24th July, at the residence of her nephew, James Anderson, Keilor, Mrs. Janet Wilkie, in her 93rd year, late of Edinburgh. Home and New Zealand papers please copy.(P.5, The Age, 25-7-1891.)
CATHERINE'S DEATH AT SHELTON in 1892 ties in with my assumption that James was on Springbank from about 1895. He'd certainly left Shelton by the end of 1896.
HUMPHREYS - On the 17th November, at 19 Byron-street, off Chetwynd-street, North Melbourne, the wife
of W. J. Humphreys, of Shelton Farm, Keilor, of a son. Both doing well.(P.35, Leader, 28-11-1896.)
Google http://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-232024795/view .
By 1885, James was the grantee of lot 20, section A, parish of Maribyrnong, of 20 acres, bounded by Sunshine Avenue, Stensons Rd., Driscolls Rd. and a line joining Cook and William St. (Melway 14 F11.) In 1900-1, James O'Donnell owned this grant. James Anderson now owned lots 21, 22, 23 and 24 (which I now, in 2017, understand to be those suburban lots of Keilor Village bounded by Church St on the north and Green Gully Rd on the west and extending east just past Kennedy St. In 1900-1, Thomas Dargan was leasing this property (Braeside) of thirty and a half acres from James.
WHAT HAPPENED TO JAMES IN 1889?
SHIRE of KEILOR.
RIDING of MARIBYRNONG
Notice is hereby given, that at the annual election for Maribyrnong Riding, held before me this day, the
number of votes polled by each candidate was as follows :
Alfred Henry Padley .. .. .. 39
Edward Hassed .. .. .. .. 33
Majority for Alfred Henry Padley .. 6 (P.5, Argus, 10-8-1889.)
ELECTION NOTICE, MARIBYRNONG RIDING.
Whereas,James Anderson, of Keilor, farmer, Edward Hassed, storekeeper, Keilor, and Alfred Henry Padley, of St. Albans, banker,have been nominated for the office of councillor of the said shire, at the election to be held for the Maribyrnong Riding of the said shire. A POLL will be TAKEN for the ELECTION of one COUNCILLOR,at the court-house, Keilor, on Thursday, the 8th day of August, 1889, between the hours of 8 o'clock a.m. and 4 o'clock p.m.DAVID MILBURN, Returning Officer. Keilor-grange 30th July, 1889. (P.12, Argus, 31-7-1889.)
It may be that there was no preferential voting in those days and James decided to withdraw so that the votes of the true locals would not be split between himself and Edward Hassed. Alfred Hadley was so eager to ensure municipal support for his company's grand plans at St. Albans that he became a councillor of both the Braybrook* and Keilor Shires. It was not long before the company was asking for the private streets on its subdivision to be declared as public roads (with upkeep of them becoming a shire responsibility.) Luckily Cr.Michael Fox opposed the request.
(* Braybrook Shire Council. MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, 1889. Present—Crs. Barnett, Derham, Padley. Christie, W. Hopkins, Mullenger, and Dickson.
Independent (Footscray, Vic. : 1883 - 1922) Saturday 7 September 1889 p 2 Article)
James had another try in 1894 but was beaten by 7 votes by David Milburn.(P.9, Argus, 25-8-1894.) In 1895, he tried again in the Doutta Galla Riding but was convincingly beaten by William Delahey.
OFFSPRING OF WILLIAM AND CATHERINE.(Janet, Catherine, Margaret*, Alex. and James.)
*Mo family notices have been found re Margaret (marriage or death.) As Marriage records do not specify place of marriage or parents, and there is no clue as to how long she might have lived even if she didn't marry, I've reluctantly abandoned my search for Margaret.
On the 30th inst., by the Rev. Dr. Cairns, Mr.Andrew Duncan, Keilor, son of Mr. William Duncan,Dee Castle, to Janet, eldest daughter of Mr. William Anderson, of Keilor, late of Springfield, Fifeshire. (P.4, Argus, 31-5-1856.)
Two years or less in Keilor and Catherine would have been over the moon with happiness at her daughter having found a good man so soon.
AITKEN-On the 28th inst., Catherine the beloved wife of Alexr. Aitken, of Heathcote, and daughter of Mrs. Wm.
Anderson, of Keilor (late of Springfield,Cupar, Fyfeshire, Scotland), aged 45 years. Home papers please copy.
(P.2, The McIvor Times and Rodney Advertiser, 1-8-1884.)
AITKEN.— On the 28th July, at Victoria Hill, Heathcote, Catherine, beloved wife of Alexander Aitken,and eldest surviving daughter of Mrs. Wm. Anderson,Keilor, late of Fifeshire, Scotland.(P.39, Leader, 9-8-1884.)
I wonder if the Aitken presence in that area influenced Gordon Roy, the son of James and Annie to move in that direction.
In view of Catherine's marriage, the Miss Catherine Anderson, listed so long in Essendon directories as a resident of Ardmillan Rd., must have been Mrs Catherine Anderson, William's widow.
JAMES ANDERSON'S SISTERS IN LAW (NEE STEWART.)
KING.—On the 12th of February, at her daughter's residence, Bourke street, Korumburra, Nurse Margaret King, late of Malvern, dearly beloved mother of Marion (Mrs. L. Dawson, Korumburra), dearly loved sister of Mrs. J. Anderson, Keilor) and Mrs. Young (20 Davey avenue,Oakleigh) P.1, Argus, 14-2-1927.)
YOUNG. - On July 13, at Oakleigh,Mary, dearly loved sister of Annie Anderson, of Keilor.(P.2, Argus,15-7-1948.)
Plus 8 detailed death notices on page 8.
ANDERSON.—On the 10th April at his residence, 21 Moor street, Fitzroy, Alexander Leslie loved elder brother of James Anderson,Braeside, Keilor, aged 91 years.(P.1, Argus, 24-4-1935.)
MARRIAGE OF JAMES AND ANNIE GRACE.
EventMarriage Event registration number743 Registration year1882
Family nameANDERSON Given namesJames SexMale Spouse's family nameSTEWART Spouse's given namesAnn
On the 17th January, 1882, at the residence of the bride's parents by the late Rev. Hugh McKail, James Anderson, of Keilor, to Annie Grace, second daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs.Donald Stewart, Holden.
(P. 15, Argus, 16-1-1932.)
THEIR CHILDREN. (From the death notice for James near the end of the journal:
James (1st A.I.F.), Leslie, Florence (Mrs. Dawson, deceased), Donald (1st A.I.F.), William (1st A.I.F.), Gordon (1st A.I.F.), Janet (Mrs.Yates), and Colin.)
EventBirth Event registration number19375 Registration year1886
Family nameANDERSON Given namesLeslie SexUnknown Father's nameJames Mother's nameAnnie (Stewart) Place of birthKEIL
EventBirth Event registration number4297 Registration year1891
Family nameANDERSON Given namesDonald Clarke SexMale Father's nameJas Mother's nameAnnie (Stewart) Place of birthKEILOR
EventBirth Event registration number21922 Registration year1895
Family nameANDERSON Given namesGordon Roy SexMale Father's nameJas Mother's nameAnnie (Stewart) Place of birthKEILOR
EventBirth Event registration number4126 Registration year1900
Family nameANDERSON Given namesColin Lindsay SexMale Father's nameJames Mother's nameAnnie (Stewart) Place of birthKEILOR
FLORENCE DAWSON: D.28-9-1931. NOTICES INSERTED BY BROTHERS, L&D (i.e. Les and Don) ANDERSON, KEILOR; COLIN (BRAESIDE); AND WILL, IRENE AND BETTY- plus ANOTHER ONE in which she is called "DEEDS". (P.1, Argus, 1933.)
EventDeath Event registration number9162 Registration year1931
Family nameDAWSON Given namesFlorence Catherine SexFemale Father's nameANDERSON James Mother's nameAnnie Grace (Stewart) Place of birth Place of deathESSENDON Age42
DAWSON.—A tribute of respect to our loved son-in-law, Peter Dawson who passed away at 5 Grice Street, Essendon, on July 23, 1935.(Inserted by Mr. and Mrs. J. Anderson, Keilor.) P.1, Argus, 24-7-1935.)
DAWSON.—In sad and loving memory of our
dear daughter Florence Catherine, who passed
away on September 28, 1931, at 3 Richardson street,
Our wonderful girl.
And the stately ships go on
To their haven under the hill,
But oh ! for the touch of a vanished hand
and the sound of a voice that is still
-(Inserted by Mr. and Mrs. J Anderson, Brae=
DAWSON.—A tribute to the memory of my only
sister Floy, who passed on September 28, 1931, at
3 Richardson street, Essendon
You may break, you may shatter
The vase if you will
But the scent of the roses
Will hang round it still.
-(Inserted In Janet, Glide, and baby Florence
DAWSON.—Sacred to the memory of our dear
sister Florence Catherine, who passed to a higher
life, September 28, 1931.
Three little words,
Forget me not,
They don t seem much
But they mean a lot.
-(Inserted by Colin and Donald Anderson,
DAWSON.—In loving memory of our dear sister,
Floy, who died on September 28, 1931, at Essendon
For her sweet rest
For us just memories
-(Inserted by Jim and Elsie and Gordon and
DAWSON.—In fond and loving memory of my
dear sister, Florrie, who passed away on September
28 1931. My beautiful sister, (Inserted by her
loving brother, Les )
DAWSON.—In proud memory of Flo, one of
nature's gentlewomen, who passed into a higher
life on the 28th September, 1931. —The measure of
her life was the well spending of it, not the
length. She died as she lived, everyone's friend.
(Inserted by Will and Rene.) My good Aunty
Flo. (Little Betty) P.1, Argus, 28-9-1932.
MR JAMES ANDERSON
At the ripe old age of 96 years there passed away in his sleep this week, Mr James Anderson, a pioneer dairy farmer of Keilor. He was the father of Mr Gordon R. Anderson, of Undera, a candidate in the Rodney election. Mr Anderson cancelled election meetings at Lockington and Bamawn in order to attend the funeral,which was held in Keilor today. (P.2, Shepparton Advertiser, 4-6-1943.)
MY INFORMANT'S ENGAGEMENT.
HENDERSON - ANDERSON. -The engagement is announced of Beryl, youngest daughter of Mr.and Mrs. J. Henderson, Tullamarine, to Peter, youngest son of Mrs. R. Anderson. Keilor.(P.9, Argus, 19-12-1955.)
With some of my questions unanswered, such as a birth record for Peter, above, so I could find his parents, a sudden inspiration was to search for Braeside, Keilor on trove.
Wedding Bells - -
MISSEN - ANDERSON
THE marriage of Miss Maria
Patricia Anderson eldest daugh-
ter of Mr. and Mrs. L. Ander-
son, of "Braeside" Keilor to Mr.
Mervyn Keith Missen was sol-
emnised at Christ Church of
England, Keilor, on Saturday,
the 19th of September, 1953, by
the Rev. D. Ganley. (P.3, Sunshine Advocate, 25-9-1953. A very long detailed report of the wedding.)
The Missens were from Taylors Rd., St. Albans. Siblings of bride and groom named.
Mr James Anderson, of Braeside.
Keilor, celebrated his 94th birthday
on Wednesday^ He is a regular at
tendant at the" Newmarket sales of
dairy cattle on Fridays. He arrived
in Australia" with his parents in
1854.(P.2, Camperdown Chronicle, 29-3-1941.)
The above was virtually copied from P. 4, Argus, 26-3-1941.
Engagement. — The engagement is
announced o£ Miss Violet Potter,
daughter of Mr. and Mrs. R.H. Pot
ler, o£ Narandera, to Mr. Gordon R.
Anderson, of Gillieston, Victoria, son
of Mr. and Mrs. James Anderson, of
'Braeside,' Keilor, Victoria. (Narandera Argus and Riverina Advertiser, Friday 28 April 1922 p 2 Article)
Esscndon. — The monthly meeting was
held at the home of the secretary. The
president (Mrs Orr) presided, and be
fore commencing the business, asked the
members to stand in silence as a token
of respect to the late Mrs Dawson,
daughter of Mr and Mrs J. Anderson,
"Braeside," Keilor. Mrs Dawson, who
was a branch member, will be greatly
missed. She was always in her place at
meetings, socials, or any entertainment
that the branch was holding, and was a
delegate to the district council since its
formation, and was most liberal to the
funds of all.
RURAL WOMEN'S ORGANISATIONS Branch Activities and Local Reports COUNTRY WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION
Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954) Saturday 7 November 1931 p 20 Article
ANDERSON. Annie Grace (of
Braeside, Keilor). --On November
14, at the residence of her daugh-
ter, Mrs. C. Yates. 5 Grice cres-
cent, Essendon, wife of the late
James Anderson, fond and devoted
mother, of Les, mother-in-law of
Phyllis, and loving grandmother of
Marie, Lesley, Judith, and Stew-
art. Our beautiful mother. (P.16, Argus, 15-11-1952.)
SEE ALSO P.14, ARGUS,17-11-1952, RE AGE (90 Y. 3M.) AND HAMLON GRANDCHILDREN.
ANDERSON.-On June 2, at his home,
Braeside, St. Albans road, Keilor, James,
dearly beloved husband of Annie Grace
Anderson, and loved father of James (1st
A.I.F.), Leslie, Florence (Mrs. Dawson, de-
ceased), Donald (1st A.I.F.), William (1st
A.I.F.), Gordon (1st A.I.F.), Janet (Mrs.
Yates), and Colin, in his 97th year. Peace-
fully at rest. (P.2, Argus, 3-6-1943.)
The Anderson boys certainly did their bit in W.W.1.
ANDERSON.—Mr. and Mrs. James Anderson
announce with pleasure the 60th anniversary
of their marriage at Holden on January 17,
1882. (Present address, Braeside, Keilor.) P.2, Argus, 17-1-1942.
Holden is the parish on the west side of Jacksons Creek between the Calder Park Thnderdome and, roughly, the northern boundary of Sunbury Cemetery, including Diggers Rest.
Flo's death notices (P.5, The Age, 3-10-1931) reveal that her brother James G. was at Gilleston with Gilbert Roy and that she was indeed the "Deeds" who seems to have been a nurse.
wILLIAM HOFFMAN'S grants went east from Hoffmans Rd halfway to Lincoln Rd, adjoining the Mar Lodge estate, which went east to McCracken St. Hoffman called his estate Butzbach. He also bought land across Hoffmans Rd on Mains Estate. At the time of W.W.1, BECAUSE OF ANTI GERMAN SENTIMENT, the Hoffman land on both sides of Hoffmans Rd was renamed the Buckley Park Estate, probably by the Croft family.
For that reason my search will continue as ANDERSON, BUCKLEY PARK.
You might have noticed that James Anderson's wife has only ever been referred to as the daughter of Donald Stewart, her mother's given name not being mentioned. Annie didn't help me much with this notice. However, Annie's mother's death record reveals the given name and Annie's death record reveals that Donald Stewart had married CATHERINE McLEAN.
STEWART.- In loving memory of my dear
mother, who passed peacefully away at "Spring-
bank", Essendon, on the 20th August, 1915,
Then why should our tears run down,
-And our hearts be sorely riven
For another gem in the Saviour's crown,
And another soul in heaven.
—A. Anderson. Buckley Park, Essendon.(P.6, The Age, 25-8-1917.)
How lucky was I, that the first of 37 Stewart death records in 1915 was the right one.
EventDeath Event registration number9634 Registration year1915
Family nameSTEWART Given namesCath SexUnknown Father's nameUnknown Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathKeilor Age80
EventDeath Event registration number14007 Registration year1952
Family nameANDERSON Given namesAnnie Grace SexFemale Father's nameSTEWART Donald
Mother's name Catherine (Mclean)
Place of birthDIGGERS REST Place of deathESSENDON Age90
Sergeant J. G. Anderson, son of Mr.J. Anderson, of Buckley Park, writes from England, where he is on sick furlough. Sgt. Anderson enlisted soon after the start of the war, leaving Victoria on October 20th. 1914. He has
been on active service ever since, in Egypt, Gallipoli, Egypt and later inFrance. He was quite well at time of
writing, and expected to rejoin his unit. He appreciates the "Essendon Gazette," which he receives regularly,
thus keeping in touch with matters in the district. He has met several Essendon boys, including Sgt.-Maj. R.Gordon, Ralph Clark and E. Morgan.(P.1, Flemington Spectator, 4-1-1917.)
From "Colin Anderson" (Buckley park, Essendon).-''Dear Patience'-I would like to become one of your correspondents. I am twelve years old, and in the fourth class. I have two lambs; one's name is Cheeky, and I would like you to give me a name for the other one. I have two sisters; their names are Florrie and Janet. Florrie is a trained nurse. My father owns a large farm, and he has 56 cows milking. Our crops are coming up nicely after the rain. Your new correspondent. 'Colin.'
"-You are now enrolled as one of my correspondents, Colin, and I hope you will often write. Call the lamb Caper.'"Patience." (P.56, The Australasian, 19-10-1912.)
This family connection makes me wonder if Ralph Dixon an early resident of Niddrie (west side of Hoffmann's Rd, not the farm)who was mentioned in one of the Keilor historical souvenirs was a member of the same Dixon family.
Mr Ralph Dixon, aged 81 in 1961, set up his homestead in what is now Gilbertson St. (Melway 16 C12) in 1912. In 1923, he and his wife moved to Hoffmans Rd.On the five acre property, he operated a pig and poultry farmafter laying 3600 feet of water pipe from the nearest main in Hedderwick St.
(P.6, Proclamation of the City Of Keilor, 1961.)
In 1951, when Eddie Deutcher moved into Hoffmans Rd, only two residents lived there, Ralph Dixon, opposite May St. at what became number 47, and Harry George on the corner of Mary St. James Anderson's old homestead was painted pink and owned by a woman named Merle who sold the property to Shell in 1954-5.
(Page D.95, DHOTAMA.)
ANDERSON—DIXON.—On the 8th October 1913 at Scots Church, Collins street, by the Rev. W.Borland, M.A., James Grant eldest son of Mr.and Mrs. James Anderson of Buckley Park, Essendon, and Keilor, to Elsie, youngest daughter of Mr. Robert Dixon and the late Elizabeth McLean Dixon of 51 Bowen street, Moonee Ponds.At home Wednesday, December 3.(P.13, Argus, 15-11-1913.)
LES ANDERSON'S "FAIRVIEW".
FAIRVIEW-, MR. NICHOLSON'S FARM.
Mr. Josh. Nickolson is better known, perhaps,as a manufacturer of agricultural implements than as a farmer, but his title to rank in the latter calling is solidly based on the ownership of rather less than 200 acres of land in his own occupation. The farm is on the left of the Keilor-road, about seven miles from town, and was for some years tenanted by Mr. John Dick who resigned it to Mr. Nicholson rather more than two years ago ; the present crop is, therefore, the third since it came into his hands. The valley known as Spring Gulley (sic), runs through the western portion of the land, and, as the banks are covered with boniders, there is an area of twenty-fire acres still remaining in natural pastures, the extent under tillage this season being 120 acres. The homestead, most of which is of bluestone, is conveniently placed,it being nearly in the centre of the farm.
(Hamilton Spectator and Grange District Advertiser (South Melbourne, Vic. : 1860 - 1870) Wednesday 6 September 1865 p 3 Article)
See map 1: paste digital.slv.vic.gov.au/dtl_publish/compleximages/46/2442850.htmlinto your search bar.
Fairview consisted of crown allotments 17 D and C, parish of Doutta Galla, a total of 188 acres 3 roods 0 perches on the south side of Keilor Rd from Hoffmans Rd, west to, inclusively, Spring St. house blocks, with the southern boundary indicated by the line of Clarks Rd extended east to Hoffmans Rd.
The eastern half of Fairview was immediately north of Wilson's "Springbank" which James Anderson had leased for 23 years from 1895 to 1918. The western half of Fairview was north east of the North pole Road farm "Shelton" which James Anderson had occupied before moving to Springbank. Leslie had been born in 1886*, possibly in the residential portion of the butcher's shop in Keilor Village but as a boy grew up a stone's throw from Fairview, on Shelton and Springbank!
*EventBirth Event registration number19375 Registration year1886
Family nameANDERSON Given namesLeslie SexUnknown Father's nameJames Mother's nameAnnie (Stewart) Place of birthKEIL
MR. LESLIE STEWART ANDERSON TO MISS ALMA ADA SKINNER
A very pretty and interesting evening wedding was celebrated at St.John's Church, Essendon, on the evening of 22nd December, between Mr. Leslie Stewart Anderson, second eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. James Anderson, of Buckley Park, Essendon, and Miss Alma Ada Skinner, youngest daughter of the late William Skinner and Mrs. Ada Skinner,
of South Melbourne.etc. (P.3, Record, South Melbourne, 16-1-1915.)
Would this be the last Annie Grace would see of her son as he forged his own way in the world? Not really; his brave new world was next door, at least until Springbank was sold, with James and Annie probably moving to Braeside after the clearing sale in 1918.
SPRINGBANK CLEARING SALE.
ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL EVER HELD.
EVERYTHING SOLD RIGHT OUT.
Paste http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/154596525 into search bar.
EVERY SILVER LINING HAD A CLOUD!
Two clouds in fact, with Annie's mother later dying at Springbank in August 1917.
SKINNER. —On the 28th December, Ada, widow of the late William Skinner, late of South Melbourne,loving and devoted mother of Mrs. Charles Damyon,St. Kilda; Mrs. Charles Browne, Keilor; Mrs.Arthur Irvine, Kalgoorlie, W. A.; Mrs. Leslie Anderson,Essendon: and William and Ernest Skinner,Melbourne Harbour Trust, aged 58 years.
SKINNER. —The Friends of the late Mrs. ADA SKINNER are respectfully invited to follow her remains to the place of interment, the Melbourne General Cemetery.
The funeral will !eave the residence of her daughter (Mrs. Leslie Anderson), "Fairview," Keilor road,Essendon (one mile and a half from Keilor road tram terminus), THIS DAY (Thursday, 30th inst.),at 3 o'clock.
(Both P.1, Argus, 30-12-1915.)
LOOK FOR ONE THING AND FIND ANOTHER.
I can find no birth notice for Peter Anderson, whom I interviewed in 1989 which agrees with the statement in his engagement notice that he was the son of Mrs R. Anderson of Keilor. I'd assumed back then that he was Donald's son. Peter is not listed in White Pages and may have passed away. I thought I might get a lead to Mrs R.Anderson's identity with an "ANDERSON, KEILOR" (luckily not restricted to Victoria) search on trove. If I'd discovered this article before I found out that James Anderson's wife, Annie Grace, was the daughter of Catherine Stewart, NEE McLEAN, it wouldn't have made half as much sense.
Fine Veteran Sportsman
NINETY-FIVE AND STILL GOING STRONG
One of the most interesting persons to meet in Victoria to-day is Mr.James Anderson, of Keilor, and, although in his 95th year, Mr. Anderson still retains every faculty. His memory of early days around Melbourne and on the goldfields is remarkable. Arriving in Australia at the age of nine* years Mr. Anderson with his father and mother went to reside at Keilor, and this old gentleman is still in residence there. He can point out today the places where the blacks held their corroboree, and that, in itself must take the mind back at least 80 years. For many years Mr. Anderson has been a dairy farmer and never misses a Friday at Newmarket, which is cow market day.
In his younger days Mr. Anderson did a lot of shearing and also some gold mining. He looks with pride at a gold ring he now wears, having dug the gold himself from a mine at 'Dead Horse Creek,' now known as Heathcote. Mr. Anderson is also proud of a feat he performed as a shearer. This was at Longoornong in the Wimmera district. This station was at this time managed by Mr. John M'Lean, and his brother, Mr. Allan M'Lean, was overseer. His record tally was 186 in a day — this, of course, was done with the blades; machines were not used at that time. Of these he had 28 shorn by breakfast, 90 at lunch hour, and 186 by the evening. He shore at many sheds, and well remembers having as a pen-mate 'Wild' Wright at Yanoo Station when this place was one of the biggest stations in Australia.
Mr.Anderson once bred and raced two well-known and successful jumping horses. They were Zircon and Springfield. They were trained by the late W. S. Cox, father of the present well known secretary of Moonee Valley. With Zircon he won four hurdle races, while Springfield was successful in noless than 21 steeplechases. The dam of these two horses was named Milkmaid, having been christened this because she pulled Mr. Anderson's milk cart for many years. The old gentleman chuckles greatly when these horses are referred to because of the fact that when they were winning races most racing folk spoke of them as 'half bred' horses. There is another side to this, however. Mr.Anderson was once looking for a horse to pull his spring cart, and was told by a friend of the late Mr. J. O.Inglis that there was a mare running in a grocer's cart that would suit him. Mr. Anderson secured the mare for £10. He used her in a milk cart,and then decided to breed from her with the happy results mentioned
above. In those days registration of horses was not in force, but he was well aware when he bought the mare
that she came out of J. O. Inglis' stud, and was not only a thoroughbred, but closely related on her dam's
side to Malua. it is therefore little wonder that Mr. Anderson smiles when people referred scathingly to his
He is hale and hearty to-day, and says that down to his knees he feels 18, but below his knees 118. In his
long life he has never had to seek the aid of a doctor, and he admits that he has had a hard but a good life.
He has reared eight sons and two daughters, and is proud of his family and help they have given him. His wife, who is 87, is still with him, and to use his own expression, he has been married over 60 years, and there has
never been a blow struck in his house yet. He is one of the best known men to attend Newmarket on Fridays,
and it is no exaggeration to say he is one of the best, if not the best, liked men at these sales.
(P.6, Daily Advertiser, Wagga Wagga, 28-5-1941.)