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My subconscious tries to help me by producing historical fiction in the form of dreams which are so believable because I am actually reading text during the dream and that text makes perfect sense because it agrees with what is stored in my memory. These local history dreams are a by-product of being a TROVE junkie. Not one of these dreams has proved to be true but strangely they always lead to a discovery that would never have been made without the dream. That is why I still get on the computer as soon as I wake up in the hope that the dream might be true,because it was such a great story; I know that even if it wasn't true,there'll be a consolation prize.
Last night's dream was that Julie Anthony had found the story of William John Ferrier,whom she called Australia's greatest hero,so fascinating that she planned to turn it into an historic novel. That made perfect sense. Julie Anthony had spent holidays at Rosebud where Ferrier had lived for about a decade after becoming a hero and the former soldier who took her, and the object of her affection, on fishing trips might have regaled them with the story of the 1905 hero while they waited for a bite. That much could be true,although there's no proof of the story being told to them by George Jarry. There is absolutely no proof that Julie Anthony wrote a book about Ferrier!
At least I can prove that Julie Anthony was a famous Australian singer.
Julie Anthony (singer)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Birth name Julie Moncrief Lush
Born 24 August 1949 (age 64)
Lameroo, South Australia
Occupations Singer, entertainer
Years active 1960s2000s
Associated acts The Seekers
Julie Moncrief Lush AM OBE (born 24 August 1949 in Lameroo, South Australia), better known as Julie Anthony, is an Australian soprano and entertainer. She sang the Australian National Anthem at the Opening Ceremony of the 2000 Sydney Olympics with Human Nature.
She has also sung with The Seekers, first taking the place of Judith Durham as the lead vocalist in the song "The Carnival Is Over" for the Closing Ceremony of Expo '88. Later, Anthony became a member of the group with Bruce Woodley, Athol Guy and Keith Potger.
Anthony starred in both the Australian and West End productions of Irene in the mid-1970s.
At midnight between 31 December 1987 and 1 January 1988, in celebration of the start of Australia's Bicentennial year, Anthony sang the Australian National Anthem "Advance Australia Fair" on the national broadcaster, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, which continued to show the recording of her performance at the close of broadcasting for many years afterwards, until the broadcaster introduced 24 hour broadcasting.
Anthony is among the most awarded of Australian entertainers. She was made an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) (1980) and a Member of the Order of Australia (AM) (1989) and has been voted by her peers as "Entertainer of the Year" three times and "Best Female vocalist" 11 times. She also appeared in commercials for St.George Bank from 1974 until 1999.
b. Julie Moncrieff Anthony, 23 August 1951, Galga, South Australia. Anthony was born in Galga (population 15) and raised on the family farm. In her teens she began singing with a local band and in 1970 won an amateur television talent quest. Her victory and the first prize ($600 and a trip to Tasmania) led to regular appearances on the Adelaide Tonight Show. She moved to Sydney, making television appearances and performing on the club and cabaret circuit, and eventually embarking on international tours. An engagement at the Hong Kong Hilton in 1973 was followed by the lead role in the Australian production of Irene. Three years later she starred in the UK version at the Adelphi Theatre. The Play and Players of London honoured her with the Best Newcomer (Actress) award for 1976. She returned to Australian television and appeared in three national specials, and in the same year she married her manager Eddie Natt. In 1977 she won the Sammy and Penquin awards for Best Television Variety Performer. Tours of America followed and Anthony worked with Bill Cosby, Roy Clarke and Merv Griffin. In 1980 she was awarded an OBE for services to the entertainment industry. Three years later she accepted the role of Maria in The Sound Of Music; following a season in Sydney, the show successfully toured major and regional centres.
For the 1988 World Expo held in Brisbane, Anthony was invited to sing with the re-formed Seekers, joining the group as lead singer from 1988-89. In 1988 she sang the national anthem at the official opening of Australias new Parliament House. The same year she returned to the stage in I Do!, I Do! In 1990, she was awarded AM in the Order of Australia for services to the entertainment industry. In 1994, Anthony further demonstrated her versatility by teaming with jazz musician Don Burrows (reeds/flute) for tours, including a successful appearance at the Jazz and Blues Festival at the Gold Coast International Hotel in 1995. A year later she returned to cabaret with a season at the Tilbury Hotel in Sydney. In her extensive repertoire she demonstrated great conviction, whether singing Amazing Grace or material ranging from Stephen Sondheim to the Beatles. In June 1996 she accepted a cameo role as a band singer in the Bruce Beresford film Paradise Road, starring Glenn Close and Jean Simmons. Julie Anthony is one of the best and most durable theatre and variety performers in the post-war Australian entertainment industry. She has won the prestigious Mo Award for Entertainer Of The Year three times, and Best Female Variety Performer nine times. An admirable singer and engaging personality, she has successfully blended her career and family duties.
DID YOU SPOT THE DIFFERENCE?
Galga is a tiny farming settlement (that might or might not have a pub)which is 145.1 km from Lameroo,just under three hours away by car. Lameroo is obviously the regional centre so the birth may have been at its hospital or the birth may have been registered there. So the place of birth is not a problem. But the date of birth certainly is!
How did I know about George Jarry and the fishing trips at Rosebud? That was certainly not in any Julie Anthony biography.
EXTRACT FROM MY JOURNAL "ROSEBUD ROLL OF HONOUR,1914-1918."
It cost George (Jarry)ten bob a year to join the RSL at The Old Green Mill in Melbourne. He then took a soldier settlement farm at Willaura for 3 or 4 years before selling up and coming to Melbourne where he purchased an international truck and carted bricks for approximately 15 years. Moving to Rosebud in 1939 George spent the years of the Second World War cutting and carting wood for those in need and essential services. Later buying a 24 foot fishing boat the Georgie (named by a friend after the manageress of the local hotel at the time) George carried passengers on fishing trips up until his retirement in 1963 and it was during this time that he met Ed Natt who was to become the husband of Julie Anthony and when Julie was honoured on This Is Your Life in July 1978 George appeared as a guest.
This website has a photo of Julie with George on his 90th birthday.
(Peter (George Henry) Jarry 605
For reasons unknown, when George Henry Jarry enlisted in the A.I.F. he used his ..... In 1939 he moved the family to Rosebud to a small holiday house he had built ... One of his fishing companions was Eddie Natt who married Julie Anthony.)
Historical fiction is supposed to be based on fact. Only one of the birth dates can be correct! So if anyone wanted to make a movie (historical fiction)about Julie, the correct birth date would be needed.
THE CORRECT BIRTH DATE FOR JULIE ANTHONY. THEY CALLED HER BETTY!
LUSH. On August 24, at Lameroo Hospital, to Betty and Les a daughter (Betty Moncrieff). Thanks to Dr.Cock and hospital staff. (Chronicle (Adelaide, SA : 1895 - 1954) Thursday 1 September 1949 p 44 Family Notices.)
Anzac Day ceremonies are fantastic but one thing that is rarely mentioned is the pain,torment and suffering experienced by families, especially mothers,and the fact that many of those who returned were shattered men,both physically and emotionally. This poem by Jim Brown says it all. Learning this poem could be part of the lead up to Anzac Day in schools and wouldn't it be great for schoolchildren to read a verse each while wreaths are being placed during the ceremony on Anzac Day.
The Anzac on the wall.
By Jim Brown
I wandered thru a country town, 'cos I had some time to spare,
And went into an Antique Shop to see what was in there.
Old Bikes and Pumps and Kero lamps, but hidden by it all,
A photo of a soldier boy . An Anzac on the Wall.
'The Anzac have a name?' I asked. The old man answered 'No,
The ones who could have told you mate, have passed on long ago.
The old man kept on talking and, according to his tale,
The photo was unwanted junk, bought from a clearance sale.
'I asked around,' the old man said, 'But no one knows his face,
He's been on that wall twenty years... Deserves a better place.
For someone must have loved him, so it seems a shame somehow.'
I nodded in agreement and then said 'I'll take him now.'
My nameless digger's photo, well it was a sorry sight
A cracked glass pane and a broken frame I had to make it right
To prise the photo from its frame I took care just in case,
Cause only sticky paper held the cardboard back in place.
I peeled away the faded screed, and much to my surprise,
Two letters and a telegram, appeared before my eyes
The first reveals my Anzac's name, and regiment of course
John Mathew Francis Stuart of Australias own Light Horse.
This letter written from the front... My interest now was keen;
This note was dated August 7th, 1917
'Dear Mum, I'm at Khalasa Springs, not far from the Red Sea
They say it's in the Bible looks like a Billabong to me.
'My Kathy wrote, I'm in her prayers...she's still my bride to be,
I just cant wait to see you both, you're all the world to me.
And Mum you'll soon meet Bluey, last month they shipped him out
I told him to call on you, when he's up and about.'
'That bluey is a larrikin, and we all thought it funny,
He lobbed a Turkish hand grenade into the C.O.s dunny.
I told you how he dragged me wounded; in from no man's land
He stopped the bleeding, closed the wound, with only his bare
'Then he copped it at the front, from some stray shrapnel blast,
It was my turn to drag him in, and I thought he wouldn't last.
He woke up in hospital, and nearly lost his mind
Cause out there on the battlefield, he'd left one leg behind.'
'He's been in a bad way Mum, he knows he'll ride no more
Like me he loves a horse's back, he was a champ before.
So Please Mum can you take him in, he's been like my own brother
Raised in a Queensland orphanage hes never known a mother.'
But Struth, I miss Australia Mum, and in my mind each day
I am a mountain cattleman, on the high plains far away.
I'm mustering white-faced cattle, with no camel's hump in sight,
And I waltz my Matilda, by a campfire every night
I wonder who rides Billy!! I heard the pub burnt down!!
I'll always love you and please say Hooroo, to all in town'.
The second letter I could see, was in a lady's hand,
An answer to her soldier son, there in a foreign land.
Her copperplate was perfect, the pages neat and clean
It bore the date, November 3rd 1917.
'T'was hard enough to lose your Dad, without you at the war
I'd hoped you would be home by now each day I miss you more'
'Your Kathy calls around a lot, since you have been away,
To share with me her hopes and dreams, about your wedding day.
And Bluey has arrived and what a godsend he has been
We talked and laughed for days, about the things you've done and seen'
'He really is a comfort, and works hard around the farm,
I read the same hope in his eyes, that you won't come to harm.
Mc Connell's kids rode Billy, but suddenly that has changed.
We had a violent lightning storm, and it was really strange.'
'Last Wednesday, just on midnight, not a single cloud in sight,
It raged for several minutes, it gave us all a fright.
It really spooked your Billy and he screamed and bucked and reared,
And then he rushed the sliprail fence, which by a foot he cleared'
'They brought him back next afternoon, but something's changed I fear,
It's like the day you brought him home, for no one can get near.
Remember when you caught him, with his black and flowing mane?
Now Horse Breakers fear the beast, that only you can tame,'
'That's why we need you home sonThen the flow of ink went dry
This letter was unfinished and I couldn't work out why.
Until I started reading, the letter, number three
A yellow telegram delivered news of a tragedy.
Her son killed in actionOh! What pain that must have been,
the same date as her letter 3rd November 1917
This letter which was never sent, became then one of three.
She sealed behind the photo's face the face she longed to see.
And John's home town's children, when he went to war,
Would say no greater cattleman, had left the town before.
They knew his widowed mother well, and with respect did tell,
How when she lost her only boy she lost her mind as well.
She could not face the awful truth, to strangers she would speak
My Johnny's at the war you know he's coming home next week.
They all remembered Bluey, he stayed on to the end.
A young man with wooden leg, became her closest friend.
And he would go and find her when she wandered, old and weak,
and always softly say 'Yes dear John will be coming home next week.'
Then when she died, Bluey moved onto Queensland some did say.
I tried to find out where he went, but don't know to this day.
And Kathy never wed, a lonely spinster some found odd.
She wouldn't set foot in a church she'd turned her back on God.
John's mother left no Will, I learned, on my detective trail.
This explains my photo's journey, of that clearance sale.
So I continued digging, cause, I wanted to know more.
I found John's name with thousands, in the records of the war.
His last ride proved his courage a ride you will acclaim
The Light Horse Charge at Beersheba of everlasting fame.
That last day in October back in 1917,
at 4pm our brave boys fell that sad fact I did glean.
That's when John's life was sacrificed, the record's crystal clear.
But 4pm in Beersheba is midnight over here......
So as John's gallant spirit rose, to cross the great divide,
Were lightning bolts back home, a signal from the other side?
Is that why Billy bolted, and went racing as in pain?
Because he'd never feel his master, on his back again!
Was it coincidental? Same time... Same day Same date!!
Some proof of numerology or just a quirk of fate?
I think it's more than that you know, as I've heard wiser men,
Acknowledge there are many things, that go beyond our ken
Where craggy peaks guard secrets, neath dark skies torn asunder,
Where hoof beats are companions, to the rolling waves of thunder,
Where lightning cracks like 303's, and ricochets again,
Where howling moaning gusts of wind, sound just like dying men
Some Mountain cattlemen have sworn, on lonely alpine track,
They've glimpsed a huge black stallion with Light Horseman on his back.
Yes Sceptics say, it's swirling clouds, just forming apparitions.
Oh No, My friend you can't dismiss all this as superstition.
The desert of Beersheba or a windswept Aussie range,
John Stuart rides on forever there I don't find that at all strange.
Now some gaze upon this photo, and they often question me,
and I tell them a small white lie, and say he's family.
'You must be proud of him.' they say I tell them, one and all,
That's why he takes the pride of place
The Anzac on the Wall.
EXTRACT FROM EMAIL.
Maybe you can help me. I am doing bios on the names on the 1st W.W. Honour Roll and the only one I cant find a record for or any information at all is a T.Hutchins.
Would you mind asking your Hutchins contacts if they know of him.
There are two other Hutchins on the roll, Howard and Robert, but cant find T?
The Mornington Historical Society wants to write a biog. for each of the soldiers in the Mornington Roll of Honour for World War 1 as a project for the Gallipoli centenary. One of these is T.Hutchins. Thomas Hutchins, known as "one-arm" Tom would have been about 42 at the start of the war. Thomas William Hutchins,son of John Coxon Hutchins,nephew of "one-arm", and known as "Darkie Tom" would have been about 29 at the start of the war.
Unfortunately neither of them is listed in the A.I.F. PROJECT,or the Nominal or embarkation Rolls. Hopefully some longtime resident of Mornington in early days will have heard tales of the three Hutchins men listed on the roll of honour and would know if T.Hutchins was one of the two named above, or perhaps somebody else. Thomas Arthur Hutchins of South Australia was killed in the war but does seem to be a descendant of George Hutchins, pioneer of Osborne (near Balcombe Creek.)
Unfortunately my Hutchins contacts belong to a branch of the family that has been at Camerons Bight near Sorrento since the 1880's and while Paul has much information re genealogy and the nicknames of the two Toms mentioned above, it does not include war records (for obvious reasons,as I have found in 50 fruitless hours of research.)
If you can help,please send me a private message so I can put you into contact with Val.
Believe it or not,I chanced upon this article while I was trying to establish the identity of T.Hutchins who is listed on the Mornington Roll of Honour (W.W.1). A huge list of names was suggested,many revolving around Tommy Bent, who was the Victorian Premier and Brighton's best-known identity. The journalist who wrote the article analysing the merits of the suggestions had an excellent grasp of history and it's a thoroughly enjoyable and interesting read.
I will not be correcting the digitised text to paste here because that would be a huge task and I don't have time, but the newspaper itself is very easy to read. The local historical society has obviously not come across this so please let them know if you live in the area. Graham Whitehead,the City of Kingston Historian might be interested too although it's a bit out of area.
Naming a Station. FOUR NAMES SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 1 September 1906 Edition: MORNING. p 4 Article
This is a reminder to myself to get cracking. I wrote an email to the Queenscliffe Maritime Museum when I was writing the journal about William John Ferrier,Australia wide hero in 1905 and as a result,Lew has been trying to get a letter to me.Phillip Hutchins rang me today and gave me the phone numbers of Lew and of Pat Hutchins,both of whom will have a treasure trove of memories which must be recorded.
Well, I've made a start. Just rang Lew. He is nearly 90 and why do you think he got up at 3 a.m. this morning? No,not his bladder,he was off to fish outside the Heads,just as he has done every day for 70 years. He no longer lives at "Rosebud" in Beach St,Queenscliff as he did for 70 years but is just over the road and the nice lady, hailing from Portsea, who bought "Rosebud" often brings him some soup etc. and tells him,"Lew,don't forget,this is always your home."
William John Ferrier moved to Queenscliff in 1917,before Lew was born and Lew was never taken back to see the second house west of the Murray Anderson Rd car park near the beach. But he did tell me about travelling in the Weeroona to Dromana as a nine year old and his mother pointing to a big tree in the Dromana cemetery near which three Ferrier girls had been buried. Unfortunately the Dromana cemetery records were apparently destroyed in a fire and no death notices concerning these girls have been found on trove.
Just before William Ferrier moved from Rosebud to Queenscliff he helped to save another life,that of Ernie Rudduck of Dromana. Another involved in the rescue was Mitch Lacco who moved to Queenscliff at the same time as the Ferriers. Old Mrs Lacco used to babysit the Ferrier kids who called her Grandma Lacco although she was not related.
From my journal MELBOUNE BRINDLE (ETC)SAVE NELSON RUDDUCK'S LIFE.
Observing Mr Rudduck's plight from the pier, Ewart Brindle, a lad of about 12, rode to Rosebud on a bicycle to seek assistance. A few minute after his arrival William Ferrier and Mitchell Lacco, well-known fishermen, John McLear, grocer, and Brindle were facing the gale in a fishing boat, and being drenched to the skin as the waves dashed over the vessel.
When Lew told me the limited times during which I could ring him because of his very busy lifestyle,I said that he was a bit of a Percy Cerutty and ,of course Lew had seen Percy running footballers up the Portsea sand dunes.
I await the arrival of Lew's letter with great anticipation!
Where did the Hutchins family first settle in Victoria? Phil Hutchins mentioned members of the family being at Sorrento,Mornington and Williamstown. The link is seen in this obituary.
Mr. R. S. Hutchins
The death took place suddenly on Tuesday morning of Mr. Richard Samuel Hutchins at his brother's residence, 40 North Road,Newport. Deceased was born at Mornington 59 years ago and leaves one daughter and two sons
to mourn their loss, his wife having predeceased him. The funeral took place on Thursday afternoon, leaving his residence for interment in the Sorrento cemetery. (P.8, Williamstown Chronicle,16-5-1947.)
The Hutchins family was involved at Mornington by early 1860 when George Hutchins bought two town lots.
(P.5,Argus, 18-2-1860,CROWN LAND SALE.) George also bought his three blocks at Osborne in 1860.
IN the SUPREME COURT of the COLONY of VICTORIA: In Its Probate Jurisdiction.-In the Estate of GEORGE HUTCHINS, late of Osborne, in the County of Mornington, in the Colony of Victoria, Fisherman, Deceased, Intestate.-Notice is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof application will be made to the Supreme Court of the colony of Victoria, in its Probate Jurisdiction, that LETTERS of ADMINISTRATION of the estate of the abovenamed George Hutchins, deceased, be granted to Harriett Hutchins,of Mornington, in the said colony, the widow of the said deceased.
Dated this 25th day of April, A.D. 1878. (P.3, Argus, 26-4-1878.)
NOTICE is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof application will
be made to the Supreme Court of the State of Victoria, in its Probate jurisdiction, that PROBATE of the WILL
(dated the thirtieth dav of July, 1940) of ELIZABETH HUTCHINS, late of Empire street, Mornington, in the said
State, widow, deceased, may be granted to Howard Seymour Hutchins, of 26 Bundeera road. Caulfield, in the said
State, salesman, and Donald Richard Hutchins, of Mornington, in the said State, fisherman, sons of the said testatrix, the executors appointed by the said will. (P.9,Argus, 10-9-1948.)
NOTICE is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof application will
be made to the Supreme Court of the State of Victoria, in its Probate Jurisdiction that LETTERS of ADMINIS-
TRATION of the estate of ROBERT HUTCHINS, late of Mornington, in the State of Victoria, retired fisherman,
deceased, intestate, left unadministered by Elizabeth Hutchins, of Empire street, Mornington, widow, deceased, the administrator of the said estate, may be granted to Howard Seymour Hutchins, of Bundeera road Caulfield, in the State of Victoria, salesman, the eldest son of the said deceased. (P.9,Argus,21-6-1948.)
Unfortunately the two blocks purchased by George Hutchins in the town of Mornington cannot be identified because no crown allotment and section numbers were given and no map is available online,but as Empire St was the inland boundary of the town,one of the blocks may have been on the seaward side of this street. (See my Vale, Mornington journal re the boundaries of the town.)However the land granted to George in the township of Osborne can be identified.
Lot 37. 4a. lr. 32p., £9 15s. per acre, George Hutchins.
Lot 38. 4a. lr. 32p,, £0 10s. per acre, George Hutchins.
Lot 39. 4a, lr, 32p., £5 per acre, George Hutchins.
The map showing suburban lands at Osborne is :
Suburban lands at the Township of Osborne, in the Parish of ...
It shows that George Hutchins was granted crown allotments 42 and 43, both of 4 acres 1 rood 32 perches,and crown allotment 38 of 5 acres 0 roods and 21 perches
The south west corner of crown allotment 42 was 19.9 chains (398 metres) from the foreshore and 10.8 chains (216 m) south of Balcombe Creek. I had manipulated the zoom on the Osborne map so that 1 centimetre represented 1 chain and the Melway scale is 1mm to 1 chain. The south west corner of c/a 42 is 60 metres east of the corner of Watson Rd and Wattle Avenue (halfway to Henley Avenue.) Crown allotment 42 and 43 to the east,each had southern boundaries of 6 chains and the south east corner of 43 is exactly the same as that of the John F,Ferrero Reserve. These two blocks had a depth of 742 links (about 148 metres) with a farther fairly clear 80 to 30 metres on the south bank of Balcombe Creek.
Crown allotment 38, whose area was not as stated in the sale report,probably because crown allotment 38 was confused with lot 38, was 15.2 chains (304 metres)east of Maude St and on the north side of Augusta St which met the creek about halfway across George's southern boundary. There seems to have been a ti tree swamp on the road reserve and the south west corner of c/a 38 but owners of allotments further east had about 20 metres between it and the creek to get past this obstacle. Crown allotment 38 is between the Matthew St houses and Citation Reserve as calculated from the distance from Maude St and a frontage of 5.5 chains (110 metres.)
These three blocks were ideal being right on the creek but with clear land where George could pull his boat out of the creek if necessary and spread his nets out to dry. In stormy weather a safe anchorage was provided in the creek,the same as at Mordialloc where many fishermen were noted by the Inspector of fisheries in the 1870's.
THE FISHERIES IN PORT PHILLIP BAY.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 19 February 1875 p 6 Article
This website gives details of George Hutchins, and by clicking on the link*, his parents and his siblings.
Living - Freepages - Ancestry.com
George Hutchins [Parents*] was born about 1832 in Devon, UK. He died on 10 Apr 1878 in Victoria, Australia. He was buried in Mornington Cemetery, Victoria, Australia. He married Harriet Coxon.
George Smale Hutchins was born about 1800 in Hallurley, Devon. He died in Feb 1871 in Devon, England. He married Jane Sanders on 14 Dec 1830 in Devon, UK.
Jane Sanders [Parents] was born in 1806 in Shaldon, St Nicholas, Devon. She died on 26 Jul 1886 in Newton Abbot, Devon, UK. She married George Smale Hutchins on 14 Dec 1830 in Devon, UK.
They had the following children:
M i John Hutchins died on 19 Apr 1903 in Queensland, Australia.
M ii George Hutchins (details as above.)
M iii William Hutchins was born in 1833 in Teignmouth, Devon, UK. [Notes]
M iv Thomas Hutchins (married in Queensland in 1864.)
M v Samuel Hutchins was born in 1838 in Shropshire, UK. He died in 1917 in Queensland, Australia.
M vi Richard Hutchins was born in 1840 in Shropshire, UK.
F vii Jane Hutchins was born in 1843 in Shrewsbury, Shopshire, UK. [Notes]
F viii Charlotte Hutchins was born about 1847 in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, UK.
F ix Mary Hutchins was born about 1848 in Stourbridge, Worcestershire, UK.
M x Howard Reynold Hutchins was born about 1850. He died on 26 Jul 1875 in Townsville, Queensland, Australia. [Notes]
Pioneer Graves in the Mornington Cemetery
Val Wilson has produced this excellent website. Once you have the home page, click on search and type Hutchins. The third result shows George's landholdings on a map (far more extensive than his grants detailed earlier), states that his first purchase at Osborne was made in 1856 and indicates that he combined market gardening with fishing.
I've found George Hutchins' grants in the township of Osborne because of the map on Val's cemetery website. They were crown allotments 1-4 and 8 of section 1 and crown allotment 12 of section 2.
To get the map online, google TOWNSHIP OF OSBORNE, MOOROODUC.
FROM PAT HUTCHINS.
Pat's eldest son Paul has done considerable work on the Hutchins story including a trip to the church in England where George's siblings, who didn't come to Australia, were buried. Pat knows the spot where George's homestead at Osborne was. Charles Hollinshed stated on P. 42 of LIME LAND LEISURE that the Hutchins family arrived at Sorrento in the 1880's and Pat thinks that is pretty accurate.
Pat's father was Robert William Hutchins,his grandfather was William Hutchins and his great grandfather was George Hutchins. George Hutchins, the early pioneer at Osborne and Mornington was his great great grandfather.
GGF George moved to Williamstown and fished from near its jetty. In Spring and Summer GGF George and his brother,Richard, transferred their fishing operation to the head of the Cameron Bight jetty where a 99 year lease was obtained. Eventually they settled there permanently.
LEW FERRIER'S LETTER.
The desire expressed in the email below was also the subject of a request in an email that I sent to the Warrnambool Historical Society. Janet McDonald kindly sent me a large envelope packed with information outlining the tribute paid to the hero of the La Bella tragedy in 1905. This I offer to the Nepean Historical Society,the Dromana Historical Society and the Queenscliffe Maritime Museum. (I'll try to remember to include some excerpts later in the journal such as Western Australia's Memorable Tribute to a Victorian Hero and THE HERO OF THE DINGY, A TALK WITH FERRIER, "NOTHING TO MAKE A FUSS ABOUT.") The latter article's inference that William Ferrier was a very modest man is confirmed in Lew's letter.
Email from me to Queenscliffe Maritime Museum 20-8-2011.
I am trying to have the heritage status of a house in the Rosebud Fishing Village upgraded because of William Ferrier's involvement in the maritime history of Warrnambool, Rosebud and Queenscliff. I would welcome any new information that shows his significance so the house can be elevated in status to "of Statewide significance". If "Rosebud" in Beach St,Queenscliff and the original Ferrier home in Warrnambool are still standing, my attachment might provide a similar service for you.
Undated sheet in the envelope.
Recently an email has come to light from you addressed to the maritime museum. This is now in the hands of Lewis Douglas Ferrier,the last remaining son of William John Ferrier (a historian in his own right.) My name is Ken McNeill and I am a long time friend of Lew. He has quite a lot of information that he could let you have if you will let me know your address. Lew does not have a computer so has asked me to contact you.
As I stated at the start of the journal, Phillip Hutchins contacted me to get the ball rolling and told me yesterday that he was posting the letter; it was in my letter box today.
Lewis Douglas Ferrier born 1-12-1924.
Mr. xxx xxxx.
Thank you so much for your correspondence re the home off Jetty rd Rosebud 1905-1916.. Very briefly I will write why I have taken so long to reply.
I am single and on 1st Dec.,I pray I will be 88.I am still fishing,76 years in Tas., Vic., N.S.W.and S.A. waters. I am well. I awoke July last year with great pain in my left eye. I went to hospital for removal of a tumour. Many trips were required and last Wed., I got a clearance.What a great relief to be so grateful to be alive and still be independent to look after myself. Summer months and autumn were quite rough and spring is not as yet very promising,but my 24 foot coutta boat and gear is all ready to go when finer weather will allow me to get up 3 a.m.fish outside the Rip 4 to 5 miles off and home by 11 a.m. safe and sound.I fish single handed. (itellya-That means on his own rather than with one arm as in the case of Thomas Hutchins!)
Now to details. Dad's home is in great condition in Stanley St,Warrnambool,not far from Ferrier St. My present home (at that time still living at "Rosebud")is excellent,built 1916,25 pounds for four unlined rooms. Twelve months later a builder from Geelong lined the four rooms with Baltic Pine from California, U.S. I am the last of Mum and Dad's family,ten sons and seven daughters. Three daughters were buried in Dromana Cemetery under abig pine tree. Mum took four sons and one daughter to see the spot when I was aged 8 in 1832. We went over on the Weeroona and bus from Sorrento to Rosebud. I thank God my memory is great. I do a lot of public speaking.
Dad died 1937. Little did he speak about the past. He was very modest. After a few years Mum used to speak to me. I was the last to leave home,not married. Mum died in my arms aged 76 in 1956. When we used to sit on the front verandah (itellya-at "Rosebud" not Rosebud) and look at the houses opposite, at the back of the back fences,the waves were only 20 odd feet away and mum would say that in some respects wherever she had lived the sea had always been so near.In fact I was born 20 paces from the sea on the front beach near the pier. (At Queenscliff.)
Mum so often spoke of number seven in the house where Dad and family lived. (Is this referring to a lucky number???????? RING LEW. ) He often brought home odd timber etc,large 10 ft long 2 inches of oregon which were used as hatch covers on the small craft or large sailing ships. Dad used to build ship shape rooms as family increased.
I have record of the Ferrier family from 1500 when the family (who are still to be found in east coast of Scotland,"Arbroath". Nephews and nieces have made trips and visited graves and saw"Ferriers ship chandlery shop" built of white sandstone (painted) on the corner of the harbour of Arbroath.
Dad painted *ships, fishing fleet,and Pt Lonsdale pier and lighthouse on the front bedroom wall,still there today,painted 1933 in our home,20 Beach St,Queenscliffe 3225.
(*That was not the only place that William John Ferrier's maritime paintings appeared.Google:
William Ferrier Ship Paintings - Queenscliffe Maritime Museum
Apr 23, 2010 - Two William Ferrier paintings from the walls of the South Channel Pile ... of the South Channel Pile Light by lighthouse keeper William Ferrier.)
In 1905,the Victorian government was almost broke as a result of the 1890's depression. Patricia Appleford's RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL 1667 gives one example of its cost-cutting measures. The teacher at the Rye school was asked to record how far each of its pupils would have to travel to attend the Rosebud school instead. The teacher at Rye was worried about losing his job so he didn't exactly lie but pretended that the Albress children would travel via Browns Rd and Jetty Rd so the distance would be almost doubled.
In such dire financial times, William's appointment to the lighthouse service can only be seen as a tribute to his heroism. Surely this is a case for the three Ferrier houses to receive the heritage classification "of State significance".
TRIBUTES TO THE HERO OF THE LA BELLA TRAGEDY.
Without being able to change font size and style,it is hard to show exactly what the memorial from Western Australia's parliament,prominent citizens etc.looks like. I could scan it but with only one image per journal,I'm toying with the idea of a photo montage of the three houses occupied by William John Ferrier and perhaps something from the Hutchins family. Here's the memorial as it was presented in a newspaper. The verse is in a box.
WESTERN AUSTRALIA'S MEMORABLE TRIBUTE TO A VICTORIAN HERO.
Address-Letter presented for saving life,through His Excellency the Governor of Western Australia by the Life-Saving Society,to MR. WILLIAM JOHN FERRIER of Warrnambool,Victoria,through His Excellency the Governor of Victoria and the Mayor of Warrnambool.
To MR.WILLIAM FERRIER
l "And how shall fare our Heroes rare?
l When Heaven's Recording Angel writes his shining, sacred scrolls,
l He gives their glorious guerdon due to Earth's heroic souls:
l And deathless deeds of those that yield their lives the doomed to save,
l Shall stand in song and story long,o'er land and world-wide wave!
l So each good deed shall have good meed"
HEROIC COMPATRIOT,- Your brother and sister AUSTRALIANS resident in this Western part of our Commonwealth have learnt with feelings of the warmest admiration of the rare heroism, humanity,endurance and skill displayed by you on the memorable occasion of the wreck of the ill-fated "La Bella" at Warrnambool, on November 10,1905.
WITH every knowledge of the awful danger which you were incurring,and without any other promptings than those of your own noble nature, you repeatedly and voluntarily exposed yourself to what seemed almost certain death in order to save the lives of wrecked fellow creatures in their direst peril who were utter strangers to you.
UNAPPALLED by the fact that the terrible fury of the storm, and danger of the situation had prevented, and
was still preventing, even the specially-equipped and fully manned life-boat from rendering aid to the doomed few left on the wreck,you undauntedly went out several times alone, and with only one oar, to the rescue in your own small and comparatively frail dingey.
WONDERFUL to record, and to your eternal renown, you not only succeeded in thus saving several lives; but whilst engaged in steering your very small boat shorewards, by one oar in a fierce gale and mountainous sea, you displayed still further bravery and the tenderest humanity, by stripping clothing from your own body, and covering one of the rescued, who seemed dying from cold.
THE PRESS and the Public throughout Australasia have vied in their praise of your splendid acts.
WESTERN AUSTRALIA thus adds its heartfelt tribute.
YOU furnish another striking evidence that there are working among us, heroes- men,women , and children-who can win the truest glory by risking their own to save life at the Wreck, the Mine,the Explorer's Track,the Burning Building, aye,in Hospitals, and at our very Hearths and Homes.
IN many a castle and hall there hang swords and similar trophies presented in recognition of valorous acts performed amidst battle-smoke "for King and Country" and extolled in despatch and martial record.
YOUR intrepid rescue,accomplished in times of peace, and in order to save life, istypicalof our highest national characteristics,and by it you have not only restored to their friends those trembling on the verge of eternity,but you have done signal service to the honour of your country.
NOBLE deeds such as these of yours go to keep our Empire a beacon-star for the generous emulation of Mankind, and they make us proud of living in strengthful unity as brother and sister Britons and Federated Australians under its righteous flag.
WE have very great pleasure and pride in sending to you this Address-Letter as further testimony to the admiration felt for you by the PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA.
WHEN, in our own or distant lands, there may be dire danger by wreck or otherwise, may God again give the guidance of a FERRIER!
SIGNED BY THE LIFESAVING SOCIETY PRESIDENT (WEISS),THE PREMIER (RASON) ,THE COLONIAL SECRETARY (KINGSMILL) AND EMINENT MEN AND WOMEN.
THE HERO OF THE DINGY
A TALK WITH FERRIER
"NOTHING TO MAKE A FUSS ABOUT"
(Extract from THE LOSS OF THE LA BELLA IN THE WARRNAMBOOL HARBOUR, 10TH NOVEMBER 1905 compiled in 2005 by Marie Boyle a member of the Australian Institute of Genealogical Society, Warrnambool area, included in the material sent to me by Janet McDonald.)
The "young fisherman" as he is somewhat familiarly termed, William Ferrier,was yesterday induced to break through his modest reserve and engage in a conversation concerning the interesting details which eventually led up to the distinction he has won as the hero of the dingy. It was evidently not a very congenial task,for like most men conspicuous for their bravery in perilous conditions, he has an innate dislike of talking about himself. Besides this he is a man of tender feelings, and would, therefore,prefer not to dwell more than necessary on the terrible tragedy with which he was so closely associated. However,the interviewer's congratulations on the recognition of his heroism by the Governor-General and the State Governor, and the explanation that it was in no spirit of sensationalism, but a desire to stimulate in others the qualities of self-sacrifice and courage,that he was asked to give his version of what took place,finally overcoming his objections, and he replied to the questions addressed to him as follows:-
"I am a native of Warrnambool, and am 25 years of age. I have a wife and two young children. I have been connected with fishing for the last 14 years. About half past ten on Friday night, Constable Trainor called me up. I was in bed and asleep at the time, and,as luck would have it,I had my left hand tied up with a poultice on it.I think I must have poisoned it somehow. However I got up and went down to the breakwater with Trainor.
When I got there I found that the whale boat had left for the wreck. I therefore got my dingy and asked two of the hands standing by to come with me to the rescue.Their names are James Patten and John Mitchell. They at once agreed to come and off we went. When we got as far as the deep hole we could see the wreck, but could not see the whale boat. My companions suggested that the boat may have taken the crew off and gone back to the breakwater.However,we went on towards the ship and could hear the men cheering us. Then the lifeboat came into view. It had been substituted for the whale boat by this time, and the pilot told us to come aboard to take the place of his volunteer men, and we did so. They were volunteers,you understand, and we belonged to the regular crew. We pulled outside the reef and got as near to it as we possibly could.We then dropped anchor.
There was a terrible sea running, and there was no clear channel to the vessel,for any length of time,during the whole night. A few seas broke under the stern of the lifeboat, and we thought we were near enough to the reef. We were about 5 or 6 lengths off the ship then,as far as I can judge. At any rate we were near enough to speak to the men and get an answer notwithstanding the roaring of the breakers. We came in at 3 o'clock to take in two or three fresh men, and then went out again. We came in again at a quarter to five. You know the rest- how we tried the rocket apparatus without success,and how we decided to go off again.
When the rockets failed, I said to Trainor, "How would it do if I took the dingy and got a line attached to her from the lifeboat and let her drift to the wreck?" What I meant was that the men on the ship could get into the dingy one or two at a time and we would then pull them to the lifeboat with the line. Trainor replied, "Go to the pilot and ask him." So I went to the pilot and told him my proposal. He agreed. I jumped into the dingy and lashed a pair of oars in her. I had another pair free but as there was only one rowlock I had to scull her by the stern with a single oar. It was intended that the lifeboat would tow me out but whilst she was getting ready Trainor came up and told me things were desperate aboard the ship and that the men would be washed off before we got there if a minute was lost.
So I decided not to wait for the lifeboat and went off by myself. We didn't carry out the arrangement about letting the dingy drift to the wreck, because just at that time two of the crew were washed off the ship,and I thought the lot would go. I therefore thought it would be better for me to do what I could with the dingy in helping to save the men if they got washed off. I was able to get along faster than the lifeboat, and picked up the captain ahed of her. The lifeboat then took in the second man. I pushed up to the stern of the ship. I did this because I knew the lifeboat was more awkward to handle in a heavy sea than a dingy, and because I thought a dingy could do the work more quickly. I saw that the last man was just about done, and that he didn't seem able to help himself.
When I saw him in this terrible plight my first impulse was to dart up to him, jump aboard the ship and support him until the lifeboat could reach us. I meant to let the dingy go adrift,because I knew I wouldn't have time to fasten her to the wreck. As luck would have it,however,the gunwale of the dingy somehow got jammed under the stern timbers of the ship and was fixed there.
I saw that the man was tied around the waist with a stout rope with which he had been lashed on board, and that he was also getting tangled up in the line which the lifeboat had thrown to him. I don't know whether I put one foot on the stern of the ship or not. It was then close to water's edge,but I got hold of the man,cut his ropes adrift and then he fell into the boat. I then sculled out of the surf and gave the man to the lifeboat.That is all. There is not much to make a fuss about,is there? I am a bit surprised to find myself suddenly looked upon as a hero. I did nothing out of the way. Any other man in my position would have done the same.
Asked if he felt any sense of the risk he was running,Ferrier at once replied, "I didn't think about the risk. Isaw the man on the wreck,and I felt he had to be saved.I realise now there was a bit of a risk about it, because the ship was surrounded by a mass of floating timber and things,and if you pitched into the water and sank beneath that mass of woodwork you might have some trouble in getting to the surface again. Anyhow,that didn't happen so it's all right,and you needn't say much about what I did at all. Yes,I have received the telegrams sent to the Mayor by the Governor-General and the Governor of Victoria, and I need not tell you I am very proud to get them ,although,I think, they have placed far too high a value on my services,and I suppose they will become a sort of heirloom.
Ferrier was then asked what he thought of the work done by the lifeboat in view of the adverse criticism that has been passed by some of the public. "All I can say is that I think everything that could possibly be done was done. The pilot was very cool right through,and was always ready to listen to any suggestions that might be made. Then,how about John Fisher,the coxswain. He is as experienced as anyone here on the water,and knows the bay as well as anybody.He isn't the man to shirk a little risk,I can tell you. If he thinks a certain place can be reached,he is the man to get there in spite of everything. I don't think there is any justification for reflections passed on the conduct of the lifeboat. It only wanted one sea like those that were running to swamp her, and she certainly would have been swamped had she gone nearer than she did.
(The above is quoted verbatim from pages 18-20 of Marie Boyle's THE LOSS OF THE BELLA IN THE WARRNAMBOOL HARBOUR, 10TH NOVEMBER,1905, compiled in 2005, a century after the incident. I have taken the liberty of providing bite-sized paragraphs.)
In the above account,William Ferrier gave some idea of the conditions on that night. Those who have never been on a reef may not understand his use of "seas" and "water's edge". The La Bella apparently was stuck quite close to the offshore side of the reef where the energy harnessed within relatively harmless swells is transformed into explosive breakers or seas which would have enough force to smash a ship to bits (producing the mass of woodwork described above) and to sweep crewmen overboard. On a decked ship this water can run off through the scuppers but a boat like a dinghy or the lifeboat could sink quickly if enough water accumulated inside it. All of the rescuers would have been drenched and possibly been shivering with cold (as was the man to whom William Ferrier gave his coat,as mentioned in the Address-letter.)
Included in the material forwarded to me by Janet McDonald is the following description of the scenario.
TERRIFIC POWER OF THE WAVES-ANCHOR AND DONKEY ENGINE SENT SPINNING.
Some idea of the fearful force of the breakers as they dashed against the ill-fated ship may be formed from the fact that the anchor,weighing a ton and a half,was wrenched from its fastenings and shot clear over the side of the vessel,while a massive donkey boiler was unshipped amidships and sent spinning right up to the weather side of the house near the bows,whilst the ship was lying at a steep incline. It was,therefore, carried bodily uphill,as it were, by the resistless force of the breakers.
The men were frequently stretched out horizontally under water,being swept off their legsby the rush of their current, and were only saved from going overboard by their rope lashings and clinging tenaciously to the railing.The house on deck, around which the battered group took refuge, was built of iron and firmly rivetted to its foundations, and just as the men cleared from the wreck one of the sides buckled up into a shape of a letter V.
(It is unclear whether the above came from Marie Boyle,Philip J.Gray (THE BARQUENTINE "LA BELLA",1976) or another author.)
REMEMBER AND IMAGINE.
Remember that time you got a rose thorn in your thumb and you couldn't do the simplest thing that involved the use of this thumb for a week or more without a rush of pain shooting right up your arm. Imagine if your whole arm was infected or poisoned. You'd probably feel the same intensity of pain but constantly. The arm would be completely useless. To use it for any task would be agony. One account said that Ferrier had it lashed to his mast (so it could at least stop him being swept overboard,I suppose.)
Ever tried rowing a boat in breakers. Now imagine doing it with only one oar AND WITH ONE ARM! Do you remember rowing an inflatable boat near the shore and a wave suddenly flipping it over or filling it with water. Ferrier made much of the lifeboat being certainly swamped if it was taken too close to the wreck but surely a lesser sea could have swamped his own frail craft. Imagine the pain William John Ferrier was feeling when Constable Trainor summoned him from his bed. It would have caused him pain just to get a shirt on. How much pain did he suffer during the long hours of extreme exertion during the rescue?
In fact, I brand William John Ferrier a LIAR! He said, "I did nothing out of the way. Any other man in my position would have done the same." Damn certain I wouldn't have!
If William John Ferrier's modest heroism is not enough to win a heritage status of Statewide Significance
for his houses at Warrnambool, Rosebud and Queenscliff, I think the whole system stinks. I am proud to claim him as a Rosebud resident! I gave Simon Lloyd,the shire's heritage planning officer, information about William and his house, requesting that it be given statewide heritage status. He has resigned but I will contact his replacement,Mr Kelly,and the municipalities at Warrnambool and Queenscliff in the hope of having all three houses and the ship paintings in the Queencliffe Maritime Museum accorded a status of STATEWIDE SIGNIFICANCE because of their connection in the theme of VICTORIA'S MARITIME HISTORY.
FERRIER GENEALOGY COMPILED BY LAURENCE FERRIER OF WARRNAMBOOL.
Anyone requiring sources can private message me so we can arrange a chat.
P.1.Robert Ferrier was born 21-2-1798 in Farnell, Angus, Scotland, and died 13-7-1855 in St Vigeans,Angus. He was christened on 24-2-1798 in Farnell and buried in July 1855 at Marywell,St Vigneans,his occupation given as weaver. He married Ellen (Helen} Milne,daughter of James Milne and Jane Anderson, on 10-6-1820 in Arbroath,Angus,Scotland.
Ellen was born in 1799 in Scotland and died 29-3-1881 in Marywell,St Vigneans.
P.2. Their children were:
1. William Ferrier born about 1821,Angus,Scotland.
2. David Ferrier, b. 1822, Arbroath,Angus.
3. Robert Ferrier b. 1823 Arbroath,died 1824,Angus.
4. Alexander Ferrier b.1827 Arbroath, died 11-2-1901 Arbroath.
5. Not named Ferrier b.1829 and died 1829,both Angus.
6. George Ferrier, b.about 1830 Arbroath (Forfarshire), died 4-7-1856, Warnambool.
7. Elizabeth Ferrier b.about 1831 Arbroath.
8. John Ferrier b. 21-4-1832 Forfarshire/Arbroath, died 18-5-1900 Warrnambool.
George Ferrier, their sixth child (b.about 1830) married Julia Sweeney in 1853 in Warrnambool. Julia was born in Cork,Munster,Ireland in 1832 and died in September 1909 in Geelong.
Report from Warrnambool Examiner of 8-7-1856 re inquest into the death of George Ferrier,a small farmer at Wangoon, (which is described in comments but does not give his brother's name.)John Ferrier gave evidence that he was a boatman for HM Customs and that his brother,George, was intoxicated,and after having a cup of tea at John's house*, George asked if John would accompany him home. The accident happened very near to George's house when George said "Gee" and the horses got out of control and ran up against a stump. (*Henna St,Warrnambool in 1856-see below.)
P.3. George was 36 when he died and was buried in the Presbyterian section at Warrnambool on 6-7-1856.He was described as a labourer in 1854 but as a farmer in 1856. (If I remember the article in comments correctly,he'd made a successful trip to the diggings!)
Their first child, Ellen was born on 17-3-1853 and died in the same month. Her grave has not been found. A second child ,also named Ellen,was born in Warrnambool on 25-1-1854.After George's death,it is possible that Julia returned to Ireland and married James Carey,later settling near Geelong.
P. 3-4. John Ferrier (child 8 above,born 21-4-1832,died 18-5-1900 Warrnambool)married Catherine Mary Dowling 11-1-1855 in the Roman Catholic Church in Warrnambool. The daughter of Hugh Dowling and Ann Biggers, she was born 26-4-1833 in Clane,County Kildare, Ireland and died 22-10-1912 in Warrnambool. They were living in Henna St,Warrnambool in 1856.
John became a boatman with the Customs Department in June 1854 and became a highly regarded coxswain in the 1860's before losing his job in 1865 for being Len Dunk (Rosebud cockney rhyming slang!)The incident regarding the counterfeit sovereigns in 1855 has been previously mentioned in the journal or comments but it's nice to know that the charge was abandoned and John was discharged with no imputation on his character.
P.5. In 1863, John and others were praised in regard to the wreck of the Golden Spring (as I have mentioned previously),also the Peveril, and in 1864,he rescued the harbour Master from drowning at the wreck of the "Fair Tasmania". (William John Ferrier had no choice in 1905; the family tradition set by his grandfather demanded heroism!)
Is this just unbelievable coincidence? You will recall that John's sister-in -law,Julia (nee Sweeney) is believed to have married a James Carey. The crew of the rescue boat at the wreck of "Fair Tasmania" were coxswain,John Ferrier and John and Richard Carey !
In April of 1878 the first attempt to open up shipping business between Port Campbell and Warrnambool was tried. Messrs R.and C.Patterson chartered John Young's lighter,a small cargo boat,the "Asia". Carrying a cargo of general merchandise,she was manned by two efficient and popular lightermen,John Mitchell*(in charge) and John Ferrier Senior. The trip was a success. During October 1880,John captured a gigantic albatross on a reef near the island. In 1886, John,a laborer, and Catherine were living at 1 EDINA ST. John died at 69 as a Roman Catholic having been a labourer**,fisherman and farmer and was buried at Warrnambool on 20-5-1900.
(*The Mitchell and Ferrier names have been linked in at least two rescues. **At the time of a rescue about which I have written recently,John was described as a stevedore,so that might be what is meant by labourer.)
P.6.Catherine was 22 years old and working as a housekeeper when she married John. She may have been known as Mary as she was buried as Mary Catherine Downing, She seems to have come to Australia on the "John Bunyan" in November 1852 from Kilkenny. She was 20 years old,Roman Catholic,single and engaged to work for Mr Trainor at Kilmore. (How did John meet his future bride? I suspect that it has something to do with Constable Trainor being at Warrnambool in 1905. Was he a descendant of Billy Trainor who rode in the first Warrnambool Cup? See: THE EARLY DAYS OF WARRNAMBOOL. SOME INTERESTING REMINISCENCES.
Warrnambool Standard (Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Saturday 13 July 1918 p 4 Article.)
Catherine died at the age of 89 and was buried at Warrnambool on 23-10-1912. She and John were married by Father Slattery. The children of John Ferrier and Catherine Mary Dowling were:
1. Ann Jane Ferrier b.12-7-1855, d. 15-2-1865 aged 10,buried 15-2-1865 at Warrnambool.
2.George Ferrier born and died 6-7-1856. May have been buried with his uncle George on 8-7-1856 or in the grave in which Ann (above)was buried in 1865.
3. George Ferrier b.5-7-1857, d.20-11-1934 Perth,W.A. [Obituary inserted on page 9.]
4. John Robert Ferrier b.4-8-1858, d.21-4-1950 at Warrnambool.
5.William Alexander Ferrier b.25-1-1860,d.15-7-1888,burial possibly recorded as Alfred.
6. David Patrick Ferrier b.21-4-1861, d.23-8-1928.
7. Mary Elizabeth Ferrier b.23-4-1863,d.1919 South Melbourne.
8. Alice Catherine Ferrier b.14-7-1864,d.1921 East Melbourne.
9. Annie May Ferrier b.12-4-1866, d.1949 Northcote,buried Melbourne.
10.Stephen Hugh Ferrier b.10-8-1867, d.1-10-1954.
11.Alfred Edward Ferrier b.21-4-1869, d. 1942 Fitzroy.
12. James Peter Ferrier b.18-6-1871,d.5-3-1936. Married Sophia Mitchell(b.1874,d.1912 Fitzroy)1895 Warrnambool.
13.Winifred Ellen Ferrier b.10-10-1872,d.11-11-1872.
(All events at Warrnambool unless otherwise stated.)
John's brother George (b.Arbroath about 1830)had a daughter,Ellen (b.25-1-1854 Warrnambool) who married Daniel McCarthy 1871 in County Clare, Ireland.
(Her mother Julia,nee Sweeney is thought to have returned to Ireland and become Mrs Carey as in bold type on page 3.)Their son,George William McCarthy was born in 1873 in Sandhurst (Bendigo)in 1873 and died in 1950 at Wangaratta. Their daughter,Mary Ellen,was born and died in Melbourne in 1876, surviving only 10 months. Ellen was buried in the Eastern Cemetery,Geelong.
John and Catherine's third child and eldest son,George (b.5-7-1857)became a solid plasterer when he left school and some of his work survives today,mainly the ornamentation in the (Warrnambool?) Town Hall ,now called the Performing Arts Centre. (I presume that more work in this trade took him to Melbourne.) George married Elizabeth Wilson on 19-8-1879 at 4 Henry St., Fitzroy. Their first child,Alice Muriel Ferrier was born on 9-8-1881 at George St, Stephney, Adelaide, and it was at Norwood,Adelaide that John Wilson Ferrier (4-9-1883) and Florence Jane Cathcart Ferrier (4-6-1886) were born.
The fourth child,Gertrude May Ferrier was born at Henry St.,Fitzroy,most likely Elizabeth's mother's home,on 18-5-1887. By the time their fifth child, George Grey Dixon Ferrier, was born on 17-7-1889, George and Elizabeth's home was in Botanic Rd., Warrnambool.
George's sixth child was Hugh Alexander Ferrier, born on 13-7-1889 at Springs Gardens,perhaps the Botanical Rd. house. By the time their seventh and last* child, Wilfred Harry Ferrier was born on 9-1-1895, they had moved to Lake St,Perth. George died on 20-11-1934 and Elizabeth on 6-6-1945,both being buried in Karrakatta Cemetery, Perth. (*Two more children seem to have been found See next page.)
Their great grandson, Richard Ferrier and his wife,Julia,of 8 Glendale Avenue,Hamersley,W.A. supplied information about George working in South Africa for about five years from approximately 1900. Let's have a look at George's obituary.
The Late Mr. George Ferrier.
The funeral of the late Mr. George Ferrier, a highly esteemed resident of Cottesloe, took place in the Presbyterian portion of the Karrakatta cemetery on November 21. The late Mr. Ferrier was born in Warrnambool 78 years ago and came to this State in the nineties, and later went to South Africa, returning to Western Australia in 1908. He left a widow and a grown up family of four sons and three daughters. The cortege left his residence at 8 Griver-street, Cottesloe and his remains were laid to rest in the presence of a large gathering of friends.
(P.9,The West Australian,23-11-1934.)
George and Elizabeth's children; birth details are given above.
1. Alice Muriel did not marry and was cremated after her death in Perth on 1-1-1975,her ashes released to the wind.
2.John Wilson did not marry and died on 20-2-1967; his ashes are in the Rose Garden, Perth.
3. Florence Jane Cathcart died 18-8-1947 Perth and was cremated.
4. Gertrude May married William Peacock of Perth in 1926 but had no children. Died 28-10-1955 in Perth. Cremated and ashes in Rose Garden,Perth.
5. George Grey Dixon died 25-1-1960,Claremont,W.A.
6. Hugh Alexander (born 1889) died 6-8-1897 in Perth where he was buried.
7. Wilfred Harry died 10-11-1967 in Manning,W.A. and was cremated.
8.Robert Louis Ferrier b. 5-7-1897,Lake St., Perth , d.11-7-1992,Perth.
9.Dorothy Isabella Ferrier b.5-9-1899,Aberdeen St, Perth, d.8-1-1900 Perth and buried Perth.
JOHN ROBERT FERRIER was the fourth child and second son of John Ferrier and Catherine (nee Dowling.) He was the grandfather of Lewis Ferrier, Queenscliff's barefoot fisherman and Laurence Ferrier of Warrnambool who compiled this genealogy. J.R., born in 1858, married twice and died on 21-4-1950 in Warrnambool.
His first wife was Eleanor Conn (daughter of William Conn and Catherine, nee Morrissey) who was born on 23-5-1857 in Mt.Taurus*,Woodford,via Warrnambool. They married on 30-6-1880 in the Presbyterian Manse,Warrnambool.
(*Mt Taurus was accidentally written as Mt Taurut on an early map as explained in a comment under the journal.)
It was after Eleanor's death on 8-6-1920 at 5 Stephen St,South Warrnambool that J.R. married again in 1923, aged about 65. His second wife,Georgina Hurst nee Phin, was born about 1877 in Victoria and died in June 1963 in Warrnambool.
J.R. and Eleanor must have lived at 1 Edina St with J.R.'s father, John, because the 1884 voters' roll described both men as labourers of that address. (N.B.The notes for John Robert Ferrier referring to the voters' roll describe the younger labourer as John Robert Junior but J.R. did not have a son called John Robert (see pages 12-13) so the labourers were John (b.1832)still living at 1 Edina St in 1886 (see page 5), and his son,John Robert (b.1858.)
J.R.'s father, coxswain of the harbour master's boat, had rescued the captain's wife and four year old daughter at the wreck of the "Fair Tasmania"on 27-5-1864.
John (J.R.) had bought a grave before his death but there is no headstone because his estate had passed to the Hirst (Hurst on P.10)family which would not pay for one.
John Robert Ferrier,a Presbyterian, was aged 91 and his last occupation was given as farmer when he died (21-4-1950.)His military record shows that he had also been a fisherman and labourer. He was buried at Warrnambool.
The large Conn family lived at Dennington. Ellen's father was a blacksmith and two of her sisters became Mrs Hart and Mrs Goodreid. Ellen's middle name may have been Elizabeth. The corner of Conn's Lane and the Princes Highway west of Dennington was known as Conn's, and Blacksmith's, Corner.When Eleanor married,she had been living a servant at Winslow. (Mt Taurus,near which Eleanor was born, is near Winslow.)
Eleanor's birth place was recorded as Koroit (birth certificate 1857 15758). N.B. This differs from the birth place given on page 10 (reg. 12994). It is likely that she was born at Mt Taurus and the birth was registered at Koroit. Eleanor's parents seem to have been Church of England adherents.
J.R.'s second wife,Georgina Hurst nee Phin had six children by her previous marriage. Doreen said they called her Grandma and she was a lovely lady.Aged 86 when she died,she was buried,on 28-6-1963, in the Presbyterian section of the Warrnambool cemetery in grave 41 in row 34.
The children of John Robert Ferrier and Eleanor Conn,with events at Warrnambool unless otherwise stated, are:
1. William John Ferrier b.25-1-1881 d. 19-12-1937 Geelong Hospital
2. Ellen Catherine Ferrier b.7-11-1881 d.25-6-1912
3. Winifred Annie Ferrier b. 26-2-1883 d.8-11-1912
4. Albert Stanley Gordon Ferrier b.4-6-1885 d.2-2-1887
5.Alice Meta May Ferrier b.20-5-1887 d.1953 Parkville
6.Stephen Alfred Ferrier b.1-10-1891 d.1-7-1970
7.David Ferrier born and died 6-4-1892
8.Harold James Ferrier b.2-3-1893 d.Feb. 1957 Stawell
9.Madge Evelyn Ferrier b.1-10-1895 d.1-9-1967 Brunswick (married Syd Ellis who unloaded coal at the Warrnambool breakwater until it was no longer transported by ship and then moved to Melbourne to continue as a wharfie. Both buried at Warrnambool.)
10. Joseph Edward Ferrier b. 12-4-1897 d.1898 buried 11-2-1898
John Robert Ferrier's brother, David Patrick Ferrier, a plasterer, (see top of p.7) married Sarah Rebecca Jewell and they had seven children all of whom died in Warrnambool except the fourth,Leo Patrick who died in Melbourne. Details available on request.
John Robert Ferrier's sister,Mary Elizabeth Ferrier married William Alexander Swanston at South Melbourne and had seven children born in that suburb,where Mary and William died in 1919 and 1894 respectively. Details available on request.
John Robert Ferrier's sister,Alice Catherine Ferrier married a local of about 28, Charles Bolden, in Warrnambool in 1890 and their four children were all born there in 1891-5. Charles must have sought employment in Western Australia during the depression and was buried at Fremantle on 6-1-1896. Alice died in East Melbourne in 1921 and only the third child,Joseph Charles Bolden, died in Warrnambool,aged about 83. The first two, Dorothea (Mrs McGrath) and Gladys died at Parkville and the fourth,Fred, died at St Kilda. Details available on request.
John Robert Ferrier's brother,Stephen Hugh Ferrier, married Alice Sarah Carter,a local girl,in Warrnambool in 1892.Alice's mother,Charlotte (nee Davies) may have been Welsh and influenced Stephen and Alice's Wesleyan leanings. The first three of their children were born 1893-1898 in Warrnambool but the fourth,Annie May,(b. 1900 Victoria) may have been born elsewhere,although the third,Charlotte, died in Warrnambool on 19-1-1900. It is known that Stephen was at Queenscliff by 1907 (his boat having escaped its moorings)and their first was buried there in 1909.All four of their offspring died of T.B., aged 16, 27,13 months and about 22. Stephen and Alice died in Warrnambool in 1954 and 1967 respectively. Details available on request.
John Robert Ferrier's brother,Alfred Edward Ferrier, married a local girl, Julia Frances Kennedy in 1896 in Warrnambool.Three and possibly all of their first four children were born in Warrnambool between 1896 and 1901 but the next three were born between 1904-9 in South Melbourne.
PAGE 20. WILLIAM JOHN FERRIER (see child 1 on page 12)married Frances Elizabeth Aikin 1902 in Victoria.
Frances, daughter of Joseph Aikin and Emily (nee Pout) was born in about 1882 in Queenscliff and died in Queenscliff on 25-8-1959.
"After shifting to Queenscliff,Bill would return to Warrnambool every year for the May races. He would stay at his brother, Stephen's home. Of note wasthe fact that he wore a bowler hat. His son,Val, would do the lighthouse check around Queenscliff and was a bit of a character as his nephew, Jack Ferrier said.
(DETAILS OF THE LA BELLA RESCUE-available elsewhere.) This is the citation for the award,taken from the 1906 annual report of The Royal Humane Society of Australasia.
WILLIAM JOHN FERRIER, of South Warrnambool,fisherman, aged 25 years,who rescued GEORGE MYLUS and RICHARD PAYNE,Captain and Seaman of the barquentine "La Bella" from drowning,at Warrnambool,on November 10. FERRIER assisted, as a member of the lifeboat crew, all night,in attempts to rescue the sailors. Next morning, in his dingy,he sculled out,accompanied by the lifeboat. The ship was breaking up,and the lifeboat was impeded by the floating timbers, which had come out of the wreck. FERRIER sculled on ahead into the breakers, and single-handed, got the captain into his dingy,and rescued him; subsequently he rescued PAYNE as well.
AWARD GIVEN-----SILVER MEDAL.
Soon after the rescue, William moved from Warrnambool to live in.....
....Queenscliff on the Bellarine Peninsula. The Ferriers at Queenscliff and Apollo Bay are his descendants. All his sons were involved in activities that had a nautical vocation. (DETAILS OF WILLIAM'S DEATH-already recorded.) In 1874,a three roomed octagonal pile light house was completed by Robert McColl of Little Bourke St. It was situated 4 kilometres off shore from Rosebud in the south channel. William and Frances lived there and operated the light house on a rotating 3 month roster system."(DETAILS OF SHIP PAINTINGS INSIDE THE PILE QUARTERS AND GENEALOGICAL DETAILS FOR WILLIAM AND FRANCES.)
CHILDREN OF WILLIAM FERRIER AND FRANCES AIKIN ARE:
1.George William Valentine Ferrier b. 1903 Queenscliff* d. 30-3-1989 Victoria.
2.Ellen Isobel Ferrier b.1906 Queenscliff d.15-7-1927 Queenscliff.
3.William John Ferrier b 3-3-1907 Rosebud d. 1-11-1979 Apollo Bay.
4. Alice Edna Ferrier b.10-12-1908, Mercer St, Queenscliff ----
5. Frank Bernard Ferrier b.21-2-1911 Rosebud d. 11-8-1996 Pt Lonsdale (hostel).
6.Stephen Alfred Ferrier b.24-6-1912 Rosebud d.16-11-1990 Victoria.
7. Colin Lester Ferrier b.1913 Dromana --------
8.Jack Ferrier b. 1916 Victoria d.1970 Ballarat.
9. Allan Nelson Ferrier b.11-2-11-2-1920 Queenscliff d. 31-10-2010 Ann Nichol House Portarlington.
10. Mansley Edwin Ferrier b.19-12-1922 Victoria d. 21-6-2002 Victoria.
11. Olive FrancesFerrier b. about 1923,place not known d. 1971 Norlane,Geelong.
12. Lewis Douglas Ferrier b. 1-12-1924 20 Beach St,Queenscliff and still fishing outside the Heads in his "Rosebud".
13.Geoffrey Bruce Ferrier b.about 1925 d. August 2006.No details available.
*The first birth indicate that William and Frances were living in Queenscliff before the 1905 rescue. The second may have occurred while William was serving at the Cape Schanck lighthouse and Frances probably spent the latter part of her confinement at her mother's house. I was under the impression that William had 17 children altogether and he stated after the rescue, "I am a native of Warrnambool, and am 25 years of age. I have a wife and two young children." This means that another child was born in 1904 or early 1905 and she must have been one of the three girls that Frances told Lewis was buried in the Dromana Cemetery. Two others were probably still born on the Pile light or at 858 Pt Nepean Rd (NUMBER SEVEN)Rosebud,perhaps in 1909,1914 or 1915.
CONTINUE WITH SELECTED INFORMATION E.G. LAURIE'S FAMILY.
BACK TO THE HUTCHINS FAMILY.
I've been bombarding Pat Hutchins' eldest son, Paul, with articles including an insolvency case in 1857 which may have involved (Osborne pioneer) George Hutchins and his brothers and their mother's possible move to Australia. Hence Paul's reference to a clue in this email which just arrived.
From our tree
George Smale Hutchins.
Born 1801 and Died 27 December 1870 (We saw it on his headstone at St Nicholas in Shaldon, Devon,England). He was an Excise Officer. He married Jane Sanders in 1830 and was Buried 31 December 1870.
George Smale and Jane had 10 children.one was George.
Georges Hutchins B:1832 had a younger brother William John born 1834 Devon died 1862 in China. (Another clue perhaps??) His other younger brothers, Thomas born 1836 in Devon died 1887 in Maryborough Queensland John born 1842 in Shrewsbury Shropshire England & died 1903 in Bundaberg Qld and Howard Reynolds born 1850 in Stourbridge England & died 1875 in Townsville Qld. Other siblings were Richard, Sam, Jane, Mary Selina, and Charlotte Eliza.
His son George Hutchins was
B: 24/10/1832 Teignmouth Devon
D: 8/4/1878 Brighton Victoria (See detail of inquest in Steve Johnson's contribution.)
M: Harriet Cox 28/9/1855 in Sydney.
Their children were:
George B:1858 Williamstown M: Elizabeth Garlick 1880
Richard B: 1860 Osborne D: 1944 Mornington
William B: 1864 Osborne D: 1864 Osborne
Robert B: 1865 Mornington D: 1939 Mornington
Mary Jane: B: 1867 Mornington
Annie Louisa Cox B: 1869 Ballarat D: 1870 Ballarat
Ann Charlotte B: 1870 Osbourne D:?
Thomas(One Arm Tom) B: 1872 Mornington D:19/6/1953
Henry B: 1874 Mooroduc D:1874 Moooroduc
Catherine Charlotte B: 1877 Fitzroy
Jane B: 1856 Sydney D: 1862 Osborne
Sydney Howard B: 1875 D: 1937?1957? Dromana
John Coxon B: 1862 D: 1934
George (fisherman)B: 1858 Williamstown married Elizabeth Garlick 1880 and had 7 children
William George (Bill) Hutchins (fisherman) B:1884 Mornington D c 1943 (and 6 others.. I have their details if relevant)married Ellen Elizabeth Onge 1906 who lived at the house opposite Camerons Bight (Newberry Hill). They had Robert William(Mick) Hutchins (fisherman) (only child)B:1907 D:18/8/1971 who also lived at Newberry Hill and also had the house/fish shop at the head of the jetty on the beach at Camerons Bight.
He had 3 children Phillip Gray (Pat) Hutchins (fisherman) who lived at Willunga opposite Camerons Bight B: 1931, Phyllis B: 1934, and Kathleen B:1933 D:31/8/84.
Phillip Gray(Pat) has 3 boys, Paul William (me), Phillip Mark and Adrian Peter.
STEVE JOHNSON'S CONTRIBUTION.
HUTCHINS, KEVIN JAMES : Service Number - VX52137 : Date of birth - 03 Jan 1921 : Place of birth - MORNINGTON VIC : Place of enlistment - ROYAL PARK VIC : Next of Kin - HUTCHINS MARY
HUTCHINS, MAURICE JOHN : Service Number - VX4421 : Date of birth - 03 Aug 1917 : Place of birth - MORNINGTON VIC : Place of enlistment - BRIGHTON VIC : Next of Kin - HUTCHINS THOMAS
HUTCHINS, WILLIAM THOMAS : Service Number - VX4470 : Date of birth - 28 Apr 1919 : Place of birth - MORNINGTON VIC : Place of enlistment - BRIGHTON VIC : Next of Kin - HUTCHINS THOMAS
HUTCHINS, WILLIAM THOMAS : Service Number - V215777 : Date of birth - 28 Apr 1919 : Place of birth - MORNINGTON VIC : Place of enlistment - MORNINGTON VIC : Next of Kin - HUTCHINS ELLEN
I will have a look tomorrow if I have any information on the Hutchins. It appears Robert is the brother of Thomas (both fisherman of Mornington) There are two Thomas Hutchins who died in Mornington 1953 and 1948 (according to Wills & Probate). A lot of the Hutchins boys joined the Royal Australian Navy. I assume that the Hutchins from Sorrento and Mornington are related
I have been working on The Second World War enlistments on the Mornington Peninsula. Send me any details that you can.
ROBERT & ELIZABETH HUTCHINS
HUTCHINS.On June 10, at her son's residence, Empire street, Mornington, Elizabeth, loved wife of the late Robert, and dearly beloved mother of Howard, Grace (Mrs. W. Humphries, Moonee Ponds), Maggie (Mrs. J. Coates, Traynor's Lagoon), Robert, Don, and Alex (deceased), aged 86 years. -In God's care.
HOWARD SEYMOUR HUTCHINS
26th June 1909, Mornington & Dromana Standard p.2
Mr Howard Hutchins, son of Mr R. Hutchins, of Mornington, has been successful in passing the examination for the Royal Australian Engineers, and left Mornington last Monday to take up his duties at Swan Island. Mr Hutchins was the champion quoit player of the Mornington ?(Lodge)? and also a coming footballer.
ROBERT SYDNEY HUTCHINS
Service Number: 3043 Royal Australian Navy
Born Mornington 20th September 1895
Next of Kin: Maisie
The Argus 27th January 1950, p.11
HUTCHINS.-On January 26 (suddenly), at. Mornington, Robert Sydney, loved second eldest son of the late Robert and Elizabeth Hutchins, of Mornington, loving brother of Howard and Grace (Mrs.Humphries), Margaret (Mrs. Coates), Donald, and Alec, (deceased), late R.A.Navy, aged 54 years. Fondest memories.
27th June 1914, Mornington Standard, p.3
HUMPHRIES-HUTCHINS. A very pretty wedding was celebrated on Wednesday afternoon, 17th inst., the contracting parties being Miss Grace Hutchins, eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs Robert Hutchins, of Waterloo Place, Mornington, and Mr William Humphries, third son of Mr and Mrs Humphries, of Riddell. The ceremony was performed by the Rev, G. Carson, and the church was crowded with friends and acquaintances of the bride. The bride, who was given away by her father, looked charming in a gown of white silk with train, with the usual wreath and veil, and carried a shower bouquet of white chrysanthemums. The bridesmaids, Miss Maggie Hutchins (sister of the bride) and Miss M. Humphries (sister of the bridegroom),were both attired in white silk, with pale blue caps, and carried shower bouquets. After the ceremony break- fast was served at the residence of the bride's parents, and as the happy couple left by the afternoon train for the city the station was crowded with friends who showered confetti most liberally. The bride's a travelling dress was a navy blue costume with tango velvet hat.
RECEIVED FROM STEVE ON 21-5-2014.
12 April 1878, The Argus p.6
An inquest was held on Wednesday by Mr. Candler, at the Plough and Harrow Hotel, South Brighton, on the body of a fisherman named George Huchins, 46 years of age, residing at Balcomb's Creek, Mornington. It appeared from the evidence that deceased was driving home quite sober, and when at South Brighton he pulled the near rein, causing the cart to go on to the footpath. The jerk threw him out on to his head, killing him instantaneously. Information was given to Constable Cowan, who obtained the attendance of Dr Goldstone. He at once pronounced the man dead. The jury returned a verdict of accidental death.
SAVED BY THE HOLIDAY SEASON?
3rd January 1883, South Bourke & Mornington Journal
MORNINGTON POLICE COURT.
23rd December, 1882. Before Wm. Grover (Chairman) and S. Lancashire, J. P. Four young men, viz.. W. J. Stevens. D. Allison, Robert Hutchins, and John Hutchins, were charged on summons by Police-Constable Thompson with insulting behaviour in the Main street on Sunday evening, the 17th inst., and stated in his evidence that the defendants with a number of others were congregated near the Atheneum whilst Divine Service in that building was taking place and making use of disgusting and insulting language and annoying passers by. The defendants denied having used the language imputed to them, and the Bench in view of the Christmas holidays, took a lenient view of the charge and dismissed the accused with a caution.
***Obituary for W. T. Hutchins of Williams Road Mornington 2nd December 1948, Frankston Standard, aged 63 years. (Itellya- The obituary, in the last column on page 4 of the Standard,mentions that he lived in Williams Rd and was a long time member of the Mornington (Fire?) Brigade but does not mention service in World War 1. Unfortunately the names of some of his four sons and three daughters cannot be seen. If T.Hutchins on the Mornington Roll of Honour for W.W.1 was Thomas William Hutchins,he would more likely be the one who died in 1953.)
Compared with England, most European countries, Egypt and so on,Australia is a very young country. There are a great many reminders of this fact in England, France,Italy, Greece,Egypt and along the great rivers of Europe etc. where there are many buildings older than our country. Many Australians spend considerable amounts of money visiting these countries to see history such as castles, houses in which famous people lived, the Colosseum,the Parthenon, and the Pyramids. They come together every year on January 26 and April 25 to celebrate significant parts of Australian history. Many Australians are engaged in researching their own families' histories.
But they are missing out on a great love affair. They get up in the morning to go to work or school and then come home to their enclosures like prisoners in a low security prison where they are allowed into the community to perform work or play footy at weekends. They might be lucky enough to have good neighbours with whom they enjoy life but they don't really LOVE THEIR COMMUNITY!
It is probable that residents of Melbourne's leafy eastern suburbs love their communities more than most,partly because they are beautiful but also because of the prestige and snob value they present. The opposition to the Camberwell Station development is a good example of a community coming together. What about the other suburbs? Is there no reason to love them? Are the residents of Broadmeadows and Frankston going to put up with Sam Newman's put downs of such suburbs in the street talk segments on the Footy Show. I wonder if Eddie Maguire, a Broady boy, agreed with such nonsense in the early years of the show. Shane Crawford feels no need to demean suburbs when he replaces Sam on street talk.
Tommy Lahiff loved his Port Melbourne but he could not understand it when Yuppies started paying big money for its humble dwellings. (This was decades before big developments such as Docklands.) Kensington was a similar suburb,whose house values increased dramatically a few decades ago. Why? Proximity to the city,certainly,but also humble but pretty cottages which have been beautifully restored.
Some of the yuppies may have explored the history of these suburbs but many would probably not know the name of the street at the next corner. If they wanted to find some information or if a professional historian was conducting a heritage study on a house,a suburb or an entire municipality, where would they turn? The local historical society of course!
Churches are dying with most members of congregations well over even Joe Hockey's suggested retirement age. Here's why Australia needs to wake up,because historical societies are in exactly the same boat. The members were much younger when they preserved the historic houses for our friends,the yuppies. Why does Anzac Day draw countless thousands, including very young children, to ceremonies all over Australia every year? Our much maligned schools are partly responsible but it is the parents who actually take their youngsters to the ceremonies.
People at the ceremonies do not ask the marchers to continue their sacrifice but are quite content to let others of the same age, members of historical societies, continue their sacrifice of time and energy to preserve and make accessible the heritage of (in total)this great nation. This is often continued despite severe handicaps which I don't think I could overcome. For example,Jenny Nixon of the Nepean Historical Society is almost blind and Margot Hitchcock of the Blackwood Historical Society has suffered a stroke which has affected the left side of her body.
You cannot imagine how much museum volunteers appreciate visitors with whom they can share their LOVE OF THEIR COMMUNITY! My fellow Australians,all I'm asking you to do is to take your family to your local museum so they can have this opportunity. There is no longer a Rosebud Historical Society and within a decade its demise will be shared by many others unless you WAKE UP, AUSTRALIA. You will learn to love your community and show your appreciation of the historical society members who ask only for your interest.
Elayne Whatman of the Broadmeadows Historical Society prompted this journal when she sent me a flyer.(Below.)
Society Inc. & Museum
Museum: 9302 1456
Mobile: 0487 371 543
THE BROADMEADOWS HISTORICAL
SOCIETY INC and MUSEUM
(Broadmeadows Town Park, Pearcedale Parade)
(Melway Map 6 G7-8)
NOBODY SEEMS INTERESTED IN THE HISTORY OF BROADMEADOWS, SO WE MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS WONDER IF IT IS WORTH KEEPING THE MUSEUM OPEN.
WE HOLD PHOTOS, MEMORABILIA, WRITTEN INFORMATION BUT NO ONE SEEMS TO WANT TO SEE IT. WHY?
ALTHOUGH OUR OPEN DAYS ARE MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY 10:00AM TO 3:00PM, IT DOES NOT MEAN WE CANNOT OPEN ON A WEEKEND.
MOB: 0405 371 543
While I was on duty at the Dromana museum on Easter Sunday we had a visitor who was chasing information about Safety Beach. She was a descendant of James Manson Sharpley after whom Sharpley Avenue (Melway 150 E10) was named. I referred her to my journals about Safety Beach and told her that I'd try to find out the name of the previous owner of the land. James,a butcher, had accepted the land in lieu of payment of a debt.
She gave me her number and also wrote her name. Noticing that her surname was Matheson, I asked if she was related to Margaret Matheson who was granted crown allotment 11,section 23, parish of Moorooduc,on the south west corner of Three Chain Rd (Moorooduc Rd)and Mornington-Tyabb Rd. Just to prove that it's a small world,she replied, "No,the Mathesons were from Trentham." That's when the penny dropped. I remembered that the Matheson family was also involved at Blackwood and when I mentioned Margot Hitchcock, Sandra said that she'd read Margot's histories. And guess where I was off to as soon as I left the museum- Blackwood! On Easter Tuesday I was admiring the polished granite seat in memory of the Matheson, Cann (and Byers?) families installed near some Matheson graves.
I was hoping to meet Margot when I arrived. We've communicated by email but I'd never met her. Having arrived at dusk, I started my hunt on Monday morning. The chap in the general store told me about the book launch on Sunday and said she'd probably be at the museum.He gave me directions that made no sense at the time because I didn't know about the new C.F.A. building. The historical society building next to the adventure playground was closed and a notice referred to the Stables Museum being opposite Cobb and Co.,which I thought would be the pub. However,I saw it on the corner of Simmons Reef Rd and a brief conversation with a bloke loading his earth-moving machine led me to Margot's house,immediately across the (no through-) road from the historical society building (which WAS the Stables Museum.)
I'm still reading the book but I intend to mention the pioneers involved as witnesses apart from Billy,his wife, and the (almost)minister.Extensive genealogical detail is given about the families of Billy, his wife and the lay-reader, also the mental health issues that led to the tragedy and will not be repeated here. The book is available for purchase at the Garden of St Erth. The museum is open on the first Saturday of each month.
Margot's website is: Blackwood Publishing | Genealogical and early history of ...
Page numbers will be given here for each reference to Blackwood pioneers other than the Pincombe, Robinson and Saunders families. The book has an index.
P.8. Map showing the location of the vicarage and the Pincombe and Hayden houses nearby as well as the Vigor house.
P.10.Mr J.Byres,captain of the Rifle Club, reporting Billy's 7 consecutive bulls eyes.
P.16. Nurse Plews of Blackwood looked after Billy's wife in 1906 after her child was born.
P.37. Michael Hayden and his two sisters were often threatened by their neighbour,Billy.
P.38. Michael Hayden kept his gun loaded and within easy reach. Billy had a confrontation with the Rev. Father Collins and threatened to fight him in a duel. Constable Charles Henry Saunders of Blackwood (photo on cover) interviewed Billy about this threatening letter.
P.42. Mitchell Armstrong who had been mending a fence between Billy's house and the vicarage reported that the shot came from Billy's place.
P.43. William Aston, a local resident, ran to the constable's aid. William Cann searched Billy, finding a loaded revolver and pockets of cartridges.
P.44.Charles,20 year old son of Mounted Constable Charles Henry Saunders went with his father to arrest Billy.
P.45. Dr Anderson of Trentham was sent for to attend to the critically wounded Billy.
Inspector Beck and Constable Kroger of Trentham arrived. Rev. Father Collins was probably the "Roman Catholic priest,then resident in the district" that Billy had allegedly threatened to murder.
P.46. Pincombe accused the Hayden family of hypnotising him. Beck and Kroger found a real arsenal in Billy's house. Mitchell Armstrong heard the shot but saw nobody when he looked toward the source of the noise. Mrs Herbert Cann heard a shot and then the sound of something falling on her roof which was 500 yards from Billy's house but no bullet was found.
P.47. The constable's son Charlie waited outside the Pincombe house but rushed inside when he heard the shots and was relieved to see his father still standing.
P.48.Billy's house and the vicarage were 70 yards apart with a lane in between.
P.49.Mitchell Armstrong was Mr.M.A.Armstrong who was repairing the church fence. Much detail about the slain preacher.
P.50. Billy's claim about the Hayden's hypnotising him are repeated.
P.51.The captain of the rifle club,probably J.Byres,was in the habit of supplying Billy with just enough ammunition for the day. The funeral service was conducted by Canon Bishop of Kyneton,Rev.G.A.Rowell-incumbent of the parish (Trentham?),and Mr Morris of Eaglehawk (who had previously been a lay reader at Blackwood.)
P.52. Detective Sexton was assisting Constablr Kroger to investigate the case. Pincombe wasformally charged before Mr.J.H.Terrill,J.P. Mrs Dr.Plews has been most attentive to the prisoner who would have bled to death without her treatment. (She is called Nurse Plews on page 16!)
P.55. Rev. Father Collins was based at Trentham.
P.57-61. Much detail about the slain preacher, his Reverend-stacked family and his wife's family.
P.62-4. Mr H.E.Hyde had been reader-in-charge at Blackwood in 1905-6 when Canon George Watson visited.Watson, then at the vicarage, Rochester,wrote a letter claiming that if Billy had been put away by Constable Saunders when he fired(at cats!) and hit the vicarage in 1905, lay reader Robinson would not have died.
P.64-5. The Robinsons from a Brunswick perspective.
P.66Mrs Plews,the doctor's wife of Blackwood !!!!
P.72. Photo of the vicarage as seen from the Pincombe house taken in 1976 by Margot. (Ditto P.73 in 2009.)
P.75.Testimony of the lay-reader's wife;Mrs Byrne (Byres?),Mrs Vigor (to whose houses she ran for assistance), Messrs. Aston and M.Richards arrived shortly after her husband was shot,followed by Constable Saunders.
P. 77.Mitchell Armstrong's testimony.
P.78. William Aston's testimony.
P.79.Testimony of Jane Vigor and John Byres.
P.80. Billy's brother's testimony.
P.81.Testimony of Dr John Anderson and William Cann.
P.82-5.Testimony of Constable Saunders.
P.86-7. Testimony of Henry Kroger,stationed at Trentham who gave very precise distances between various buildings, the bullet that killed Robinson having travelled 63 yards (not 70) and Vigor's house was 150 yards from the vicarage.
P.89-98.Official Inquest Reports,Telegrams and statements from Harriet Robinson,William Cann,Morris Richards (store manager for W.J.Anderson at Blackwood), William Aston,Jane Vigor,Jessie Byrne, Michael Hayden (cattle dealer),John Byres, Constable Saunders and his son,John Anderson,Henry W.Kroger, John Byres again, William Aston (who mentioned Mr Livy crossing the road near Cann's hotel),William Cann,John Anderson again,Billy's brother,Constable Saunders again.(P.93.Photos taken by L.V.Terrill of Blackwood for the inquest.)
P.101-111. Extensive information from the police historian and genealogical detail re Constable Saunders.
P.112-116 Death of Billy and burials of Billy,his parents and Mr Robinson in the Blackwood cemetery.
P. 117-127. Details about the religious book that the bullet passed through before killing the lay reader. It was bought by a priest in the Ballarat diocese and then the Rev. Don Hardy who gave it to Rev. Phil Savlin of the parish of Woodend,which included All Saints,Blackwood. When Phil retired in 1984,he gave the book to Bert Oliver for safe keeping but when Bert moved to Adelaide the book did too so Tom Garnett, another All Saints parishioner retrieved it and minded it until it was displayed in the general store in a display case made by Jack Langford,one of the church wardens.
(P.119. Tom Garnett and his wife,Penny, made the special trip to recover the book,despite Tom's ill health. Tom established the Garden of St Erth at Simmons Reef. He was once headmaster of Geelong Grammar and in his retirement wrote articles for The Age including Godly Book Fails to Stop Vengeful Bullet on 6-3-1984. No prizes for guessing what that was about!)
P. 128-9. Pincombe's House. This was vacant because the Pincombes left soon after Billy's brother, Henry, had done his best to make amends for the tragedy,and was dismantled and re-assembled at the Cricket Ground as a club house. When tenders for this task were called for in the Bacchus Marsh Express of 7-11-1908,the Recreation Reserve Trust consisted of M.T.Vigor (Chairman),M.M.J.Croker (Hon.Sec.)and Messrs H.H.Cann and H.H.Terrill. Mr.W.Croker was paid 12 pounds for forming a bicycle track and tenders were to be called to relocate the cottage. Soon after the cottage was removed,Bill and Frank Matheson built a stone cottage on the site, the stones brought from the Lerdederg in a wheelbarrow.(Photo of this house taken in 1976.)
P.130. Those who gave to Henry Pincombe's collection to support the lay reader's widow were J.P.,A. Buchanan,F.Hodgkiss, Mrs Bates,J.Matthews,C.H.Derrick,S.Taylor,Mrs Mackie,E.E.Hosking, J.H.Terrill, T.A.Matthews, W.Broad,A.Duncan,W.H.Miller,Mrs Whitford,G.H.McPherson,J.Skinner,A.Skinner,W.Alcorn and four other named as Sympathy,Friend or Anon.
The rest of the book concerns Pincombe/Morrish genealogy,asylum records and Billy's brother's's war service.
P.137. The Blackwood State School Honour Roll is kept in the Blackwood Hall.Here's hoping my magnifying glass is good enough to read the photo.
Asterisks indicate that the name is later repeated.
ARMSTRONG A.M.*, ARMSTRONG T.M., ARMSTRONG W.E., BYRNE J., BROAD W.J., BYRES W., CARRUTHERS G.R.*, CARRUTHERS H., CHERRY H., COCCIARDI A., DAVEY R., DAVEY L., DOWNING A., DOWNING G.T., DOWNING R., HALL R.W.M., LAWRENCE W.*, MORRISH H.C., MARSHALL A.S., MURPHY T.*, McCRACKEN J.N.*, NELSON S., NELSON H., PERRY H., PATTINSON A.O., PATTINSON J.H. It seems to be implied that those following "Greater love etc" had been killed in the war.#.Those already named will be indicated with an asterisk above.SKINNER W.F., SEYMOUR J., STEPHENS I., WHATMOUGH R.H., PEARCE R.L., PEARCE L., PINCOMBE J.R. (Billy's brother), RAE F., SPEARY N.J.W., (SKINNER W.F.repeated), SAUNDERS G., SHESLER G., SMITH M.M., SMITH T., SMITH E., SEYMOUR E., (SEYMOUR J. repeated), SUFFERN G.E., SWEET J., (STEPHENS I. repeated), STEPHENS C.R., VIGOR A.J., (WHATMOUGH R.H. repeated), WHATMOUGH W.J., WEBSTER?.T.
#As John Ridd Pincombe died in 1934 aged 66,the honour roll is a nice job of lettering (except in the case of both the Stephens men and Webster) but cannot be relied on as to who died during the war. The desire to have the "Greater love hath no man etc" bit as a centrepiece and the name of A.M.Armstrong being repeated under it, gave the impression that he and all those under his second appearance did not survive the war. IT'S A PITY THAT THE USUAL PRACTICE, OF INDICATING THOSE WHO HAD MADE THE SUPREME SACRIFICE WITH AN ASTERISK, WAS NOT FOLLOWED.
Last year's edition about Christie Johnstone, the Tucks etc was superb and this year's is just as good.
There are some articles of general interest such as the first shots in both world wars being fired from Pt Nepean, the fact that those who survived the conflict still paid a price mentally and physically,a look at the Nazi mystique outlining novels based on the regime's evil intentions,Alan Moore of Mt Eliza, a Frankston recruit who changed his name, and a drum that barked like a dog.
Once again,there are also articles which contain well-researched local history and genealogy. Articles about Anzacs from the Coxhell and Brunning/Shaw families take us back to the arrival of these families on the peninsula. Thomas Coxhell, who was born in Middlesex in 1825, married Theresa Anne Tynan on 17-9-1857 at St Francis Church,Melbourne. Theresa was born in Dublin in 1831 and arrived in Port Phillip in 1855,her passage on the "Western Bride" having been paid by Mr Balcombe of "The Briars" with whom she had contracted to work as a ladies' maid for a year for 20 pounds. In 1862,Thomas bought land at Osborne which overlooked The Briars. He worked as a brickmaker at the Mornington Brickworks. The Brunning family arrived in Somerville in 1866 and as detailed by Leila Shaw in her THE WAY WE WERE, achieved fame as nurserymen,the Brunnings gardening guide becoming the bible for keen gardeners.
William Shaw, who was born in Maffra in 1890, was a farm labourer living with his father in Oakleigh when he enlisted in 1916 at the age of 26 but his father had moved to Tyabb during the next two years. William was shot in the knee while carrying a message to H.Q.near the River Jordan at 8 a.m. on 1-5-1918 and it was several days before he was brought in. Ironically he survived because of the maggots which fed on the infection but his leg had to be amputated. It was doubtful that he would survive and as he lay in the tent hospital at Gaza, he pledged to call his first son Gaza if he pulled through. William Jnr,known as Gaza,married Leila Brunning and served in W.W.2.
Leila Shaw's father, Bill Brunning, donated land for a Soldiers'Memorial Park at Somerville in 1949 but because the returned servicemen from W.W.2 wanted the memorial to be of use to the community,it was to take the form of an infant welfare centre. What a mistake! I'm a big fan of Aldi supermarkets but they don't make me think of our ANZACS!
Every Anzac Day, a large crowd assembles near the Edna Dunk memorial clock to honour our Anzacs. Tonight I discovered that the Dromana Historical Society and the Dromana R.S.L. have received funding for an Anzac Centenary project but the Rosebud lads will not be included. This has prompted me to write about those named on Rosebud Primary School's ROLL OF HONOUR. Few of those who assemble for the Anzac Day ceremony would be aware of the roll of honour and the Rosebud R.S.L. may well be unaware of its existence. Those most likely to know about the Roll of Honour are the youngsters from Rosebud Primary School where it is displayed prominently near the office. It honours former pupils of the school. In 2010,I recorded the names of those who served in W.W.1 when I started my research into the history of Rosebud and the Mornington Peninsula and last year,on Anzac Day, I wrote a short journal about the Anzacs from Rosebud and Tullamarine.
My search for information about the roll of honour and those named on it is not going to be as easy as I thought it would be, but the following is of interest.
Land subdivision in the Rosebud area made building blocks available and additional families settled in the area. Rosebud State School, number 2627, was served by a number of Head Teachers over the years and when war broke out in 1914 Mr Charles Perrin was in charge. He volunteered for war service in the last term of 1915 and was replaced as Head Teacher by Mr Andrew Allingham who was to stay on as Head Teacher until the end of 1927.
(Postscript, 8:20 a.m. 25-4-2014. After checking the details of the service at Rosebud, I thought I'd google ANZAC, ROSEBUD, HOBLEY to see what would come up. It seems that Dick Hobley and A.A.Allingham, of Rosebud who died circa 1992, were associated with a unit based in Western Australia during W.W.2.
PioneerStory#21 History 2:2 - pioneerbattalion.com.au
Aug 2, 1992 - from Dick Hobley from Esperance with apologies. )
Local men who joined the Army are listed on the 1914-18 Honour Roll which has been kept at the school. For many years it hung over the fireplace in Room 2 but is now mounted on the wall outside the office.
Mr Charles Perrin, the former Head Teacher, was killed in action in 1918.
(History - Rosebud Primary School
ROLL OF HONOUR 1914-1918.(*= SUPREME SACRIFICE.)
ADAMS R.W,; BAKER E.; CAIRNS G.B., C; CARLETON G; CONNOP J.E.; COUPER G.; CORNELL P., JAMES, JOHN;
DUNK L.A.; HOBLEY R.?*, G.,J; JAMES E.; McCORMICK K.; McGILLVRAY JAMES*,JOHN, ARCH.,ALF.,ANDREW;
PEATEY J.E.*,G.; PERRIN C.R.*; PETERS S.; POTTON S.; RIGG N.,C; WICKHAM G.,W., H.
POSTSCRIPT 31-5-2014,ROSEBUD R.S.L. ROLL OF HONOUR.
See comment of this date (American time)regarding George Parry, J.E.Peatey's death and discovery of the following information. Those listed on the R.S.L. Roll of Honour enlisted at Rosebud. The information is placed here for easy comparison of the two rolls.
R.S.L.ROLL OF HONOUR.
W.R.ADAMS, G.B.CAIRNS, *R.D.CAIRNS, F.CHILTON, R.E.CHILTON,E.J.EDMONDS, C.W.GREENFIELD, A J.HOUNSLOW, E.JAMES, A.PEATEY,G.PEATEY,*J.E.PEATEY, *C.R.PERRIN, S.POTTON, R.TUTE. (PRESENTED BY MR.JAS.LOGAN.)
FRAMED NEAR THE ROLL.
ROSEBUD'S A.I.F. CONTINGENT.
KILLED IN ACTION.
REUBEN CAIRNS,CHAS. PERRIN,JOHN PEATEY,RICHARD HOBLEY.
RETURNED FROM ACTIVE SERVICE.
GEORGE PEATEY-MILITARY MEDAL AND BAR,FRENCH AND BELGIAN (DUAL) CROIX DE GUERRE.
CHAS. CAIRNS-MERITORIOUS SERVICE MEDAL.
WM.ADAMS,FRANK AND RICHARD CHILTERN, CHAS. GREENFIELD, ERIC JAMES, ARTHUR HOUNSLOW,ALFRED PEATEY, HAROLD McCORMICK,WALTER STOREY,CLIFFORD TUTE, STANLEY POTTON,EDWARD EDMONDS.
All enlisted from Rosebud.
Peatey is written as Peaty in the framed information and the spelling of Chilton/Chiltern* also varies. E.J.Edmonds (or his son)was known as Ned and was related to the Williams family of "Eastbourne".Arthur Hounslow was probably related by marriage to the Peateys.
(*The correct spelling would appear to be Chilton and the family may have been living on Tute land west of Jetty Rd.
Bush Fires. ROSEBUD.
Mornington Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1911 - 1920) Saturday 31 January 1914 p 2 Article
... Bush Fires. ROSEBUD. A fire, which threatened for a time to cause serious damage, occurred at ... of wind carrying the fire to the west caused the house occupied by Mr Chilton to be in danger for a ... 294 words)
I had recently stumbled across an article involving Rosebud's Mrs Tute and the Empire.
Fine weather favored the Empire Day celebrated at Rosebud on Friday, 22nd May. In the morning the scholars, under their teacher(Mr Perrin) assisted by the members of the school committee and a number of parents and friends assembled in front of the school to perform the ceremony of saluting the flag, followed by three hearty cheers for " King, Queen, and Empire."
The gathering then proceeded into the schoolroom, which was gaily decorated for the occasion. Here interesting addresses were delivered by Mrs Clifford Tute (late of India) and Mr Alexander, J.P. Mrs Tute spoke of the power of the British Empire, its vast extent and its varied peoples.(P.2,Mornington Standard, 30-5-1914.)
It was no surprise to find this.
A meeting of the Rosebud Patriotic Committee was held in the hall on 3rd February. Mrs D. Bucher, one of the
vice-presidents, occupied the chair, and there was a good attendance of members.A letter was read from Mrs. Clifford Tute resigning her position as President of the committee, owing to her approaching visit to Europe. Mrs Tute's resignation was accepted with regret, and Mrs.D.Bucher was elected President in her place.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 20-2-1915.)
On 29-1-1937,K.Tute was granted 626 acres 3 roods and 18 perches south of Waterfall Gully Rd.The Tutes were not assessed in 1910 but in 1919,Mrs Katrine Tute paid rates on 610 acres (crown allotments 30,30A,17A,16,section B,Wannaeue) and Mr Tute (probably Clifford) on 660 acres (crown allotments 3AB,4,7, 9E,9A,part 5,section B,Wannaeue.)Descriptions of properties were unreliable but the 660 acres seemed to be near Boneo Rd,part of it farmed by Donald McGillvray* in 1910.
(*See the five McGillvray boys on the state school roll of honour.)
Mrs. R. Clifford Tute, of Camphill, Dromana, is staying for a while at The Gables,Domain road, South Yarra.
First World War Embarkation Rolls - Richard Clifford Tute
Rank: Lieutenant Quartermaster
Roll title: 4 Field Ambulance (December 1914)
Conflict: First World War, 1914-1918
Date of embarkation: 22 December 1914
Place of embarkation: Melbourne
Ship embarked on: HMAT Berrima A35
Richard Clifford Tute was 40 when he embarked in 1914. He seems to have come from a very clever family which absorbed the culture of India while there. The author's birth year (1874) matches that of the Rosebud resident.
Details - The AIF Project
Richard Clifford TUTE ... Next of kin, Catherine Tute, Rosebud, Victoria ... Embarkation details, Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board Transport A35 ...
Permalink to this record - State Library of New South Wales ...
Selections. Translations from Omar Khayyam / by Richard Clifford Tute, Clifford Sherlock Tute. ... Published, Malvern, Vic : McKellar Press, 1919.
My apologies for the over-emphasis on one person,but my curiosity knows no bounds.
A BIT OF LOCAL HISTORY.
You may be thinking that the roll of honour does not contain many names. This is why.
At the start of world war 1, Rosebud was a sleepy fishing village with most of its residents living in the fishing village itself,that is the house blocks fronting the beach between the present Village Green and the east end of the foreshore board walk. The Peateys, whose tale is told in Rosalind Peatey's PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS (available in the local history room at the Rosebud library) had been living across McDowell St from the school since 1888 but they were among the very few living on the inland side of Pt Nepean Rd.
Captain Henry Everest Adams was probably the first resident of Rosebud* but the year of his arrival is unclear; the Dromana Pioneer Pathway gives it as 1845. He is said to have beached his schooner at Adams' Corner (site of the McCrae carwash) and used its timber to build a cottage. With the help of his son,Robert Henry,the cottage was extended or replaced with a larger dwelling that served for many years as a guest house named Hopetoun House (later Merlyn Lodge), named in honour of the Governor, Lord Hopetoun, who often stayed there on the way to inspect the fort at Pt Nepean. The land between The Avenue and Parkmore Ave,,crown allotment 20, Wannaeue,seems to have been reserved for a village (and may have been leased from the Crown by the Captain) until about 1877 when lots in Wannaeue Village were advertised for sale. By 1864, the captain owned crown allotment 19, east to Adams Avenue, which had been granted to his friend, Isaac White. In the land boom of the 1880's a developer had bought crown allotment 19 and some blocks between South St and the beach were sold but when the bust hit,most of the land reverted to Robert Adams' ownership. Parkmore, built by Albert Holloway in 1896, was on this early subdivision.
(*Edward Hobson had earlier squatted on the Safety Beach area and then Tootgarook, built a lime kiln near Marks Ave, Rosebud West, and Hobson's Flat near Rosebud was named after him, but he did not seem to have lived in the Rosebud area.)
The Cornells were holiday makers (as far as I'm aware)and must have stayed for some time if the children attended school at Rosebud. A street is named after the family. (Melway 159 B10.) In 1910 June Connell of Caulfield owned "6 acres and building" which according to ROSEBUD:FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA was on part of a large tract of land on Arthurs Seat where George Smythe , a Flemington tanner,had planted a wattle plantation and built the hut for his caretaker. William John and Mrs Caroline Coburn were farmers living at Springbank
(88 acres) whose homestead was burnt to the ground only a few years later. The Coburns were related to the Burrells and had bought some of the Arthurs Seat pre-emptive right,Catherine Burrell retaining only 70 acres.
The Burrells, Cornells and Coburns seem to have been the only families occupying houses on the bay side of the road to Cape Schanck between the rocks and Adam's Corner. The Arthurs Seat homestead, now on only 40 acres, was advertised for sale in 1925.
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 1925
At Half past Two O Clock On the Property I Have Received Instructions from The Trustees Executors, and Agency Co. Ltd., of 412 Collins Street, Melbourne, as Executors of the Will of the Late Miss Burrell, to SELL by PUBLIC AUCTION the Property Described Hereunder: -
All That Piece of Land, being Lot 3 on Plan of Subdivision No. 3123, Being Part of Crown Portion 1, Sec. B, Parish of Wannaeue, Containing 40 Acres, or Thereabouts.
This property, Known as Arthur's Seat, is Situated on the Rosebud Road (Opposite Light-house) 2 Miles from Dromana P. O., Excellent Panoramic Views of the Coastline from Higher Portion of Property, 5 Minutes from Beach.
The Buildings Consist of on Old 8-roomed Wattle and Dab Homestead, with Cowsheds and Fowlhouses of Iron, ¼-acre Orchard, Fences in Fair Order.
Title, Certificate. TERMS.:- One-quarter Cash, Balance in 30 Days. Immediate Possession.
Solicitors:- -Messrs. W. S. Cook and McCallum of 60 Queen Street, Melbourne.For Further Particulars Apply to
S. L. BUTLER, auctioneer, and estate agent, Mornington. Tel. 131.(P.3, Argus, 28-10-1925.
The land between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd,crown allotment 18,was subdivided before 1875 when it was bought by Robert White but only one block,lot 86 was sold. This two acre block on the FJ's corner was the site of a shop built by Jack Jones,Rosebud's only shop for many years. In about 1892 the remaining 150 acres passed into the ownership of the Bamford family and later the Potton family of Brunswick. An entire chapter of the late Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD is devoted to HENRY POTTON'S FARM. This area was subdivided by DeGaris, a developer who committed suicide twice. Obviously his first effort was faked and he was nabbed as he disembarked in New Zealand. His house (19 Mitchell St), which he called Wahgunyah is heritage-listed and was probably the only house standing on c/a 18 at the start of the war.
Between Jetty Rd and the line of Norm Clark Walk was c/a 17. This had been subdivided before 1878 when George and Susan Peatey bought lot 76. A much smaller school site was bought in the 1880's but this subdivision was not much more successful than that on c/a 18. Vale,the estate agent, revived the subdivision about three decades later. Between Norm Clark Walk and First Avenue were crown allotments 16 and 15 which were subdivided as the CLACTON-ON-SEA ESTATE, which is also the subject of a chapter in Peter Wilson's book. Despite raffles conducted on steamers and competitions on the radio with free blocks as prizes this subdivision also met with little success. Many who did buy blocks forfeited them through non-payment of rates and Peter detailed how the shire and charitable groups redeveloped the Banksia Place area near Eastbourne Rd in fairly recent times.
At the start of world war 1,there were two houses between First Avenue and Boneo Rd,Hindhope Villa (50 First Avenue) and "The Thicket", situated on the large round reserve at the end of The Drive. Crown allotment 14 had been split into four properties of 29, 29,40 and 16 acres. In 1910, one of the first two was owned by Gregory Rigg,farmer, and the other was bought by his wife soon afterward. Together,these made Hindhope,which fronted Pt Nepean Rd and included 50 First Avenue and all the Hope St house blocks.Also in 1910,Ramsay Couper owned the 40 acre block and Nora Couper the 16 acre block which together constituted "The Thicket". Last night,I found an article about the Rosebud Park Estate,which was almost certainly The Thicket.
SITES AT ROSEBUD.
Old Homestead Property.
Community settlement methods have been applied to the lay- out of the Rosebud Park Estate. An old family home has been made the pivotal point of a plan which begins with a direct avenue from the house to the Rosebud beach, and extends in circular and radial roads over a wide area of beautiful timbered country, with a
long frontage to the Boneo road...... A very large central recreation park been preserved around the
old homestead, which is to be used probably as a cafe or clubhouse.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 20 December 1927 p 6 Article.)
The land from Boneo Rd to Chinaman's Creek contained two houses at the start of world war 1,"Eleanora Davey Cairns'"Eleanora",which still stands in the Rosebud Hospital and the Wong-Shing house on the market garden near the creek.
The known houses on the south side of Pt Nepean Rd at the start of W.W.1, from the rocks(Anthony's Nose) to Chinaman's Creek, were therefore the McCrae Homestead,the Cornells' house, the new Springbank, Hopetoun House, Parkmore, Wahgunyah, the schoolmaster's house in the state school grounds,the charred remains of the Peatey house on lot 76 of c/a 17 behind the school,possibly the McDowell house (lots 77,79 and part 75 with building on c/a 17 in 1919), Rosebud Ted Cairns (lots 49-54 of c/a 17), the homesteads of Hindhope and The Thicket, Eleanora and the market garden house. The residences of soldiers listed on the roll of honour not known to have occupied any of the above houses were most likely in the fishing village, farming properties (to be specified) or on crown allotment 17.
Many of the fishing village blocks had become holiday homes or vacant blocks owned by such as the Buchers, Judith Mavis Cock's great grandmother (Emily Durham),Eva Dunk of Williamstown, George Fountain (North Melbourne's last Mayor) and Arthur Boyd's maternal grandmother (Mrs Evelyn Gough of St Kilda.)
Thus the names on the roll of honour constitute a considerable proportion of Rosebud's permanent population.
Service details come from THE A.I.F.PROJECT.
R.W.Adams was almost surely Robert William Adams, better known as Billy, who is not listed in the A.I.F. PROJECT. Billy who bought Keith McGregor's carrying business (see under Len Dunk) was born in 1886.He married a Miss Pain,who died, and later Miss Hill.
"Robert Henry Adams'youngest boy Robert William Adams would have been the Billy Adams,Mabel's brother, who bought Keith McGregor's run to the city. Born at Tootgarook in 1886,he married a widow (nee Pain) in 1914,who gave birth to Edith in 1915 but died two days later. Billy went to war in 1916 leaving the baby with her maternal grandmother. He returned minus a foot. In 1921 he married Mabel Gertrude Hall. Dorothy Mabel,their third child was born in 1926 at Boneo and married Fred Parker. They had a son,whom they named Dean."
ADAMS-On the 31st March at his son's residence, Rosebud, Robert H., beloved husband of the late Mary Jane*, of Hopetoun House, Rosebud ; loved father of Henry, Emma (deceased), Eva (Mrs. Dunk) Flora (Mrs Freeman), Mary (deceased) Helen (Mrs. Harvey), William (of Rosebud), May (Mrs McGregor),Edith (Mrs Reeves), aged 96 years. Very old resident. (The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 1 April 1937 p 1 Family Notices)
There was more than one Baker family in Rosebud.
PAGE 86,ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD,Peter Wilson.
A wound to his ankle suffered during W.W.1 caused Harry Baker to walk with a limp,throwing his right leg forward. Harry lived in a house situated at 9-11 Rosebud Pde and rented a shop in the Broadway Theatre building, almost opposite his house, where he sold green groceries. He used a Dodge ute to buy stock at the Victoria Market and to do Saturday deliveries. On the last school day in 1939, the pupils at Rosebud State School were surprised at a visit from Father Christmas but were probably equally surprised to find that there were two men who walked exactly the same way. The smarter ones knew immediately that Santa was Harry!
I have suggested in another journal that there was a relationship between the Cairns family, early pioneers of Boneo, and members of the Cairns family living in the parish of Lyndhurst. This seems to be confirmed by Godfrey Brown Cairns' name being on the Rosebud roll of honour. Godfrey Brown Cairns was involved in a story that I have called SHOVEL TROUBLE AT ROSEBUD, which was almost warfare between Robert Henry Adams and Back Road Bob Cairns (Godfrey's father) where the latter had diverted storm water across the former's crown allotment 19 land. William Henry Hobley was caught in no man's land, being a neighbour of both, and the unpleasantness may have prompted his move to the Leongatha area. The whole story may be found by googling HOBSON'S FLAT DRAINAGE, Hobson's Flat road being today's Bayview Rd.
ASSAULT AND THREATENING LANGUAGE.
At the Dromana Police Court on Tuesday before S. Smallman, Esq, P.M., and Mr Rudduck; J.P., Godfrey Brown Cairns, Rosebud, charged Robert H. Adams, Rosebud, with assault on July 18. etc.
(P.5, Mornington Standard,5-8-1905.)
16080 CAIRNS, Godfrey Brown Lyndhurst, Victoria Field Artillery Brigade 4, Reinforcement 6
2785 CAIRNS, Christopher Ernest Flinders, Victoria 37th Battalion, 6th Reinforcement
The following are not on the roll of honour but are members of the same family.
27757 CAIRNS, Archibald Flinders, Victoria Field Artillery Brigade 15, Reinforcement 6
3535 CAIRNS, Ernest Charles Joseph Boneo via Dromana, Victoria 8th Light Horse Regiment, 31st Reinforcement
603 CAIRNS, Reuben Rosebud, Dromana, Victoria 9th Light Horse Regiment, 2nd Reinforcement
I wonder if this was supposed to be Chilton. See comments.
1058 CARLETON, Gordon Henry Glenarm, Sorrento, Victoria 6th Battalion, C Company
No connection between G.Carleton and Rosebud has been found on trove. I therefore did a search for Carelton, Sorrento. There is quite some detail about the Carleton family in Jennifer Nixon's SORRENTO, PORTSEA, FAMILY, CONNECTIONS. The link with Rosebud could be through the Hiscock family.
HISCOCK-CARLETON -On the 20th March, at St. Andrews Church, Middle Brighton, by the
Rev. Canon Hancock, Rupert Dolphin eldest son of the late W. H. Hiscock and Mrs. Hiscock, of Middle Brighton, to Aileen Mary, third daughter of the late Mr G. Carleton and Mrs H.Thompson, of Sorrento.(P.11,Argus,7-5-1921.)
On the 22nd December, George William, Abbotsford road, Mayne, Brisbane, late of Sorrento, Victoria, eldest son of Geo. Carleton(Sunbury) and Helen Thompson (deceased, of Sorrento), brother of Grace (Mrs. Chaffe), Ida (Mrs. Glenwright), Gordon, Aileen (Mrs. Hiscock), and Vivian (Mrs. Peasley), aged 43 years.
(Inserted by his loving sisters and brother.) P.1, Argus, 24-12-1931.
Mornington Peat Deposits. Fertiliser Plant to be Installed. LONDON, Oct. 27.
Mr Walter Hiscock, of Melbourne, in conjunction with Mr E Lloyd Pease, of Stockton-on -Tees chemical works, has arranged to establish a plant at Mornington Peninsula for the production of a new fertiliser from Mornington's unique peat deposits.
The site selected by Mr Hiscock lies between Rosebud and Rye, in what is known as Boneo Swamp, on the Mornington Peninsula. In the district there is an immense deposit of valuable peat composed of decayed vegetable matter, guano and sea shells, which tests have shown to be of a great value, after a process of destructive distillation as a fertiliser. The deposit is from 1ft to 8ft in depth, and extends towards Cape Schanck. In places it is exposed on the surface. Up to the present the output has been limited owing to the difficulty of handling and transport. It is expected that within 12 months the works will be established.
HISCOCK -On October 16 at his residence. Nee Morna, Sorrento, Walter George, loved husband of Florence, and father of Maud, May, Dorothy,Reita, Dick, and Pegs.
Although his involvement at Rosebud West may not have started before W.W.1, Walter Hiscock was probably known in Rosebud before that. He was the Crown grantee of the whole of section 10, bounded by Pasley St, Palmerston Ave (the freeway), Grant St and Clarendon St, in the township of Dromana, on 13-2-1906.
Ron Doig told me of the tram line that ran up the east side of Truemans Rd to transport the fertiliser. He also told me that a plane that had crash-landed in the Boneo swamp had taken off on the south side of Hiscock's house, roughly the course of Broadway. Hiscock had been the manager of the Tootgarook Land Company. It is possible that Carleton had been included on the Rosebud roll of honour because of his connection with Hiscock, just as Bill Parr's son in law, Furphy, had been included on the Tullamarine War Memorial.
4676 CONNOP, Jack Edward Moorooduc, Victoria 23rd Battalion, 12th Reinforcement
It is likely that Edmund Connop was related to the above.
799 CONNOP, Edmund Moorooduc, Victoria 22nd Battalion, D Company
Edward Connop married Ellen,daughter of Ned and Mary (nee Campbell)Williams.In 1900,Edward Connop occupied land on Browns Rd,east of Truemans Rd,that had been granted to Ned.
WILLIAMS.-On September 9, at Eastbourne, Rosebud West, Edward Thomas son of the late Edward and Mary Williams, beloved brother of James, Caroline, Ellen(Mrs. Connop, deceased), Marion (Mrs.Edmonds, deceased), aged 91 years. -At rest.(P.11,Argus, 10-9-1947) P.S. James Williams died the next day!
The following death notice proves that at least one of the Moorooduc Connops was the son of Edward and Ellen.
CONNOP -On October 13 at the residence of her son, Mornington road, Tyabb, Ellen wife of the late Edward Connop, in her (89th?) year.(P.4, Argus,14-10-1941.)
The only P.Cornell listed was from New South Wales. As June Connell of Caulfield was assessed in 1910,it is highly likely that the following soldier was related to her.
35014 CORNELL, James Leslie Kooyong Road, Caulfield, Victoria Field Artillery Brigade, Reinforcement 27
Despite the Murrayville address,the following may have been the letter writer (below) of 1941 and also related to June. As he obviously preferred his second given name,he was probably the P.Cornell listed on the roll of honour.
22226 CORNELL, Henry Percy Murrayville, Victoria Engineering Field Companies, General Reinforcements
The Roll of honour lists P., James and John Cornell so the next entry is indicative that Percy and John had left home together in search of land or employment and that their mother might have been a Coburn.
2114 CORNELL, John Coburn Murrayville, Victoria 7th Battalion, 6th Reinforcement
R2114 CORNELL, John Coburn 7th Battalion, 21st Reinforcement
The Cornell family's contribution was obviously not confined to World War 1.
MONEY FOR WAR EFFORT
Sir,-Few people admit a responsibility for maximum war effort. An authoritative leader is required to compel all to do what is advisable. The energies of the Australian people are being directed to a war effort thus:
-(1) The men who have enlisted are obviously all in. (2) Those in factories producing war material are doing something. (3) Those who are producing and distributing may or may not be diverting any service to war
ends. The only way to divert the people's services to a war effort is through the pay envelope. Don't leave it to individuals to invest or not in war savings certificates. Assess the soldiers' effort as datum and compel groups Nos. 2 and 3 to contribute all income above that of No. 1 to war savings certificates. Non-war services
should be reduced to the minimum. After the war many may have to stand down for returned men, and this would be
offset somewhat by substantial credits in war savings certificates
-Yours, &c, Rosebud. H. PERCY CORNELL. (P.8, Argus,26-4-1941, MONEY FOR WAR EFFORT.)
These are the only two whose given names start with G.
2347 COUPER, George Arthur Kelvin, Banksia Street, Botany, New South Wales 4th Battalion, 7th Reinforcement
11692 COUPER, Guy 64 Station Street, Box Hill, Victoria Supply Column 3, Army Service Corps 26
After a tedious examination of genealogical websites,I have found that Ramsay and Nora Couper died in the Donvale area and that they and their son,Guy and other family members are buried in the Box Hill cemetery. Guy's father was R.G.H.Couper (Ramsay George Henry!)
Couper Doris 2001 AIL 0659
Couper Guy 1973 CE 1945
Couper Nora 1925 CE 1944
Couper Ramsay George Henry 1949 CE 1945
Couper Sybel 1976 CE 1944
7000 DUNK, Leonard Alexander 24 Hunter Street, West Brunswick, Victoria 14th Battalion, 23rd Reinforcement
Len Dunk had followed Jimmy the Squid Williams of Eastbourne and Keith McGregor in providing a passenger service to the Mornington railhead,also picking up the catches of fish from the side of Pt Nepean Rd. Keith,who had married Mabel Adams, introduced motorised transport while living at the homestead of "The Thicket". When Keith moved with his brother to wheat farm near (Stawell?) in about 1922,he sold his business to Mabel's brother Billy (who was probably R.W.Adams,the first entry on the roll of honour but not listed in the A.I.F. PROJECT.) Billy must have later sold it to his brother in law,Len Dunk.(Billy and Mabel's sister,Eva, had married Andrew Dunk.)
Len's run was timed to meet the train at Mornington but did not allow for punctures!
TRUCK DRIVER FINED
RUSHING FISH TO MARKET.
Leonard Dunk, carrier, of Rosebud,was charged at the Frankston court with having driven a motor truck weighing less than three tons and fitted with pneumatic tyres at a speed in excess of 30 miles an hour on Pt. Nepean road on April 2. Constable Fraser said he followed defendant's truck along Pt.Nepean road towards Frankston for two miles. The speed registered ranged from 35 to 46 miles an hour.
Dunk, on oath, said he had some trouble with a tyre on his truck which caused him to miss a train at Mornington. As he had fish on his truck for the Melbourne market he drove on to Frankston in an endeavour to catch the train there. Defendant, who admitted prior conviction for a similar offence was fined £4 with 12/6 costs. (P.1, Frankston and Somerville Standard,18-7-1931.)
In 1920, Mrs Eva Dunk of West Brunswick was assessed lot 8 and buildings,part Crown allotment 20, section B,Wannaeue. ( Lot 8 of C/A 20 is roughly indicated by the northern end of Lonsdale St.) Eva was the wife of Andrew Dunk whom she had married in 1902 and it is possible that Len had moved to the big smoke in search of a job and was staying with them. (ADAMS' CORNER,R.F.Gibb,2010.)
Pasted from my journal about Frederick Hobley.
Frederick Hobley was a prominent member of the Victorian Police Force. The Chief Commissioner,who had come from Scotland Yard where forensic science was well developed,reorganised the Criminal Investigation Branch in 1938.Detective training courses, run by Frederick Hobley, were organised at the headquarters in Russell St, Melbourne. Frederick was an expert in photography and ballistics. He spent much of his time in investigating baffling cases and giving expert testimony in courts.(Trove.)
Frederick's father was William Henry Hobley, who was born at Schnapper Point(Mornington)on the Mornington Peninsula,Victoria,Australia in 1857. William married Elizabeth James at Main Creek (possibly Red Hill) on the Peninsula on 11-6-1884.By 1885 William and Elizabeth were settled at Rosebud on land for which William received the grant in 1890. The International Genealogical Index-Southwest Pacific shows that their first child, William Henry Hobley, was born there on 31-8-1885. Then followed George (2-2-1887),Ethel May (2-5-1889), Joseph (1-5-1894), Charles (9-8-1896), Frederick (4-10-1898), Elizabeth Violet (26-1-1901),Harold (20-6-1904)and Samuel (17-5-1906), all born at Rosebud. Their next child, Ernest, was born at Leongatha in Gippsland on 24-8-1908
The following information was supplied in comments under the journal.
by estevard on 2012-02-09 03:24:24
William Henry HOBLEY and Elizabeth JAMES had another son, Richard, who was born around November 1891 near Dromana (presumably at Rosebud). He enlisted in the AIF on 19 September 1914 and served with the 8th Light Horse Regiment. He was at the Gallipoli landing and was killed in action on the Sinai Peninsula on 9 August 1916. His service record can be accessed at the National Archives of Australia. There is also an entry for him at http://alh-research.tripod.com/Light_Horse/index.blog/1944364/8th-lhr-roll-of-honour-richard-hobley/.
Two of his brothers, George and Joseph, also served in the AIF. Both survived.
by itellya on 2012-02-09 06:39:42
Extracts from emails sent to the editor of the Great Southern Star (Leongatha area.)
Rosebud did not forget the Hobleys; all three boys were remembered on its Roll of Honour.
If you google "Hobley, Leongatha" you will find much of the information I sent you on the first page and the 7-7-2010 (page 2, Soldiers Worth Remembering) article as item 7 on page 2 with the heading GREAT SOUTHERN STAR.
As I've stated, Joe's name was on the list, but George's wasn't. He was born in Rosebud in 1887 and the family moved to the Leongatha area sometime between the births of two children in 1906 and August, 1908. This would mean that George was about 20 when they arrived there. He enlisted in Western Australia and died there but it likely that he spent some time in your area before moving to W.A. Even though he may not have been a longtime resident, his family connection would have entitled him to inclusion under the rationale applied with most war memorials. If you google Hobley, George, A.I.F., the first three sites will be the service records of George, Joe and Dick.
In relation to George's residence in the Leongatha area, the family was there by Feb., 1907. (Morwell Advertiser 15-2-1907, page 2; Palmros v Hobley case over a lease. When George was listed as dangerously ill and then recovering, his address was given as Leongatha in both reports.
I'll attach a bit of background. I thought William Henry Hobley had drowned himself in a waterhole in 1921 during a visit to Rosebud but notices indicate that he might have resumed cab driving. He was certainly not in financial strife judging by the estate he left Elizabeth.
There were Wickhams at Rosebud at the same time as the Hobleys and both families were members of the Methodist congregation. It is interesting that there were Wickhams at Sale. It was probably W.H.Hobley's son in law who saw Jim Melrose crash at Melton South.
The Leongatha police and school and the communities at Mardan (where Fred's dad was living when he died by drowning at Rosebud in 1921) and Koorooman East (where his widow was living when granted probate of his will) might like a copy of Who am I?
William Hobley and his son were praised for travelling from Rosebud to fight a fire that started on the area now called Safety Beach and split into two fronts that threatened to engulf Dromana. (Mornington Standard 21-1-1905.
by ngairedith on 2012-02-09 06:48:07
RICHARD 'Dick' HOBLEY
Regimental number - 390
Place of birth - Rosebud, Victoria
School - Rosebud State School No. 2627, Victoria
Religion - Methodist
Occupation - Farmer
Address - Leongatha, Victoria
Marital status - Single
Age at embarkation - 23
Next of kin - Father, William Hobley, Whelans Ro, Leongatha, Victoria
Enlistment date - 19 September 1914
Embarkation details - Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board Transport A16 Star of Victoria on 25 February 1915
Rank from Nominal Roll - Sergeant
Unit from Nominal Roll - 8th Light Horse Regiment
Fate - Killed in Action 9 August 1916
Place of death - Bir-el-abd, Sinai Peninsula, Egypt
Age at death - 24
Age at death from cemetery records - 23
Place of burial - No Known Grave
Commemoration details - Jerusalem Memorial, Palestine
Panel number, Roll of Honour, 6 Australian War Memorial
Regimental number - 5116
Occupation - Farmer
Address - Nyabing, Western Australia
Marital status - Single
Age at embarkation - 29
Next of kin - Father, Mr W H Hobley, Leongatha, Victoria
Enlistment date - 12 February 1916
Embarkation details - Unit embarked from Fremantle, Western Australia, on board HMAT A9 Shropshire on 31 March 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll - Private
Unit from Nominal Roll - 11th Battalion
Fate - Returned to Australia 22 February 1917
JOSEPH 'Joe' HOBLEY
Regimental number - 2027
Religion - Methodist
Occupation - Farmer
Address - Wheelan's Receiving Office, via Leongatha, Victoria
Marital status - Single
Age at embarkation - 21
Next of kin - Father, William Henry Hobley, Wheelan's Receiving Office, via Leongatha, Victoria
Enlistment date - 6 August 1915
Embarkation details - Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A32 Themistocles on 28 January 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll - Sergeant
Unit from Nominal Roll - 3rd Field Artillery Brigade
Recommendations (Medals and Awards) - Distinguished Conduct Medal
Refers 3 December 1917.
Recommendation date: Unspecified
Fate - Returned to Australia 12 May 1919
* Distinguished Conduct Medal
... 'For conspicuous galantry and devotion to duty. While his battery was in action a box of bombs close to one of his gun pits was set on fire by an enemy shell. He at once left his gun pit under heavy enemy shell fire, and, with the assistance of one man, carried four burning boxes of bombs away from the position. He showed total disregard of danger and great courage and initiative.'
Source: 'Commonwealth Gazette' No. 110
Date: 7 August 1918
by estevard on 2012-02-10 16:52:26
Further to 2012-02-09 06:39:42
The death registration for William Henry HOBLEY shows him dying "on or about 10th November 1921 near Rosebud", the cause "suicide by drowning. Verdict of inquiry held by Mr. A. V. Shaw J.P. on 12th November 1921".
On another matter Hobleyesque --
The Edward WICKHAM mentioned in newspaper reports of the Melrose air crash, and ensuing inquest, in 1936 is almost certainly Elizabeth Violet HOBLEY's husband. The 1936 Commonwealth electoral roll for the division of Corio, subdivision Melton, lists just one Edward WICKHAM and he appears with Elizabeth Violet WICKHAM, living in Melton South. He is shown as a labourer which more or less tallies with newspaper descriptions of him as a mill-hand.
Edward had an earlier brush with mortality. The Bacchus Marsh Express for Saturday, 3 January 1914, reports that three lads, including Edward and his twin brother George, discovered the body of an "old man" (it turns out he was only 60) while out rabbiting on Christmas Day 1913. It reminds one slightly of Hitchcock's The Trouble with Harry.
by skater on 2012-11-11 01:14:06
Hi - great to see this wonderful research. Edward and Elizabeth (Ted and Vi) were my grandparents. Gran had a wonderful big picture of Richard, George and Joe in uniform on her wall. I can remember my Pa talking about the plane crash - I think he was more frightened giving evidence at the inquest! I have pictures of both William and Elizabeth Hobley hanging on my wall. thank you
709 McCORMICK, Keith Herbert Rosebud PO, Rosebud, Victoria 8th Light Horse Regiment, 2nd Reinforcement.
Keith Herbert McCormick was a farm labourer and a nephew of Mrs D.James of Rosebud.
The family of the late MR.DONALD JAMES, of Rosebud, desire to thank all kind friends who sent expressions of sympathy in their recent sad bereavement. Will all please accept this
as a personal expression of thanks. E. JAMES.(P.2, Standard, Frankston, 12-8-1948.)
The James family was related to two other pioneering families in the area,the Whites and the Hobleys. Bullocky Bob White was brought up as Robert James and was actually granted land under that name. (27A,section B, Wannaeue on the east side of Main Creek Rd.) D.James was granted 19A (south of the Ditterich Reserve at Main Ridge) on 21-1-1878. Charles James was assessed on 272 acres in the Wannaeue Division on 3-9-1864 and in 1879,Daniel James was leasing 100 acres from the Crown, the rate collector being unaware that title had been granted and that 19 A consisted of 105 acres 2 roods 13 perches.
P.15,ROSEBUD FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA. (From my notes,not verbatim.)
"On the far side of the road (from the fishing village) lived Granny James,who saw and rode on her first train at 80.
In 1910 Mrs(David?) James was assessed on 3 acres and building at Rosebud and Donald James,a contractor of Rosebud was assessed on 1 acre and building owned by Robert Henry Adams but it was discovered that Donald was not in occupation. Charles James was assessed on Fleming's crown allotments 8 and 9 of the fishing village and another lot and building in Rosebud. Keith was 19 when he embarked on 12-2-1915.
(McGILLVRAY JAMES*,JOHN, ARCH.,ALF.,ANDREW; )
There is only one entry in the A.I.F. PROJECT.
616 McGILLVRAY, John 236 Sydney Road, Brunswick, Melbourne, Victoria 23rd Battalion, C Company
John was a leather worker and his father was Mr McGillvray,of the same address, which is a fat lot of help.
In 1900,Donald McGillvray had just replaced John Cain as the occupant of 316 acres, 5, 6,section A, Wannaeue.
By 1910 he had been followed on 5 and 6 by Andrew Buchanan,a grazier of Flinders.
Crown allotments 5 and 6 were bounded by Boneo Rd, Hiscock Rd, and Cape Schanck Rd,extending 4960 links (992 metres)south of Hiscock Rd. (Roughly Melway 170 B-D 8-9 including the Wedgewood, Cleek and Mashie subdivision and the southern part of the Country Club course to the west.)
6080 PEATEY, Alfred William Rosebud, Victoria 6th Battalion, 19th Reinforcement
1164 PEATEY, George Rosebud Post Office, Victoria 7th Battalion, 1st Reinforcement
5682 PEATEY, John Edward Rosebud, Victoria 21st Battalion, 15th Reinforcement
7289 PEATEY, William Stony Creek, Victoria 6th Battalion, 24th Reinforcement*
(*William Peatey had a brother named E.Peatey and may have been the son of Edward Norman Peatey (born 1855, Tarraville-see below.)
From PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS by Rosalind Peatey which is available at Rosebud Library but may be archived, as I suggested, so it is advisable to check at the information desk first.
George Peatey (born 19-2-1832),who was 7 feet 1 inch tall and had been a member of the Queen's Own Regiment, and his wife, Susan, left London on 31-7-1855 aboard the Royal George. By the end of the year,they were at Tarraville in Gippsland where Edward Norman was born. By April 1857 they were back in Melbourne where John Henry was born. (No note made but I think they were living in a tent so they were probably at Canvas Town at Emerald Hill, i.e.South Melbourne). By 1858 they were on the Survey (Safety Beach to Bulldog Creek Rd,exact location shown on P.27 of Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
George no doubt engaged in farming but like many locals he also earned money supplying timber to George McLear that was conveyed to various locations around the bay by Peter Pidoto for the construction of piers. Susan was well-regarded as a midwife and on 8-9-1867 delivered Rose Ann Bucher who was deemed to be the first white baby born in what became Rosebud. (Details of other births available.)
George and Susan's other children were Maria (b.1859), Charlotte (b.1861, died aged 20), and Alfred William (b. 1871). Maria later moved to GIPPSLAND to live with Ted and his wife, Ellen. Ted and Jack had moved to Gippsland in 1879.
George and Susan settled on Crown Allotments 27A and 27B,Kangerong (Melway 160 K6, Dromana Estate and Karina Vineyards and Dunn's Croft B&B sites) but due to the run off from Arthurs Seat (illustrated by the need for the drain shown in 161 A6),it was too wet for agriculture,so with a loan from Dromana's Nelson Rudduck, they bought lot 76 in Woolcott's subdivision in 1878 and moved in ten years later when the loan had been repaid. Lot 76, of 2 acres 26 perches, was on the south corner of Jetty and McDowell Sts and later became Don Miller's caravan park. In all likelihood, the latter street would have been called Peatey St if the cottage had not burned down in 1912, which was probably some years before Robert McDowell's family took up residence. On 9-2-1888 title to lot 76 had passed to Susan Peaty,producer. The Peatey's became Rosebud's first producers and retailers of potatoes and onions. [No doubt many Rosebud Fishing Village residents traded fish for these commodities but Emily Durham (great grandmother of Judith Durham of "The Seekers") and Evelyn Gough (grandmother of Arthur Boyd,famous artist and Australian of the Year)most likely paid cash.] When George died at the age of 73 in 1904,Alfred and his mother continued to farm on lot 76. After the cottage was burnt down, Alf and Susan moved to Beachside where Susan died aged 83 in October 1914.
Alf, who attended school in Dromana,later drove a passenger coach between Dromana, Mornington and Melbourne, which ran three times per week. Alf was called up in 1916 and served three months in France. He suffered an ankle injury. In August,1922, Alf was granted a licence to cut 50 tons of dead wood from the foreshore. He died in 1962 at the age of 91.
Jack married Mary Anne on 4-11-1884. Their children were John Edward,born on 20-11-1886,William Henry,22-?-1888, Susan 1890, and George 1892 (all born in Gippsland) and twins,Mary and Ann born in 1894. The twins were born at Beachside. Jack was almost an invalid and Rosebud fisherman, Fred Vine,carved him a walking stick.No doubt,Jack helped as much as he could but Mary Anne was mainly responsible for the success of their produce business conducted at Beachside,supplying milk,cream,butter, chickens and ducks. They had two more children,James and Charlotte,but both died in infancy. Jack's concertina, a piano played by Rosie Bucher and a violin (probably played by Joe Peters the black fiddler)supplied the music for Rosebud's dances 1900-1920. Jack's health improved and he took out fishing parties in summer.
Jack and Mary Anne's eldest daughter married Bill Dryden from Kyneton. Bill, who had been captain of the Seaford Football Club (probably to obtain employment in the sand pit which is now the Seaford Football Ground) had just moved to Rosebud to work in a sand pit for Tom Maw* when he was tragically killed at work leaving young Bill and Jim without a father. This did not stop the two boys from becoming champs for the Buds.
(*Detail supplied by Jim Dryden-who did not tell me he was a champ; the honour board in the clubrooms told me that!)
Regret was expressed on the Peninsula, last Saturday when it was learned that Mr. W. Dryden had met his death by accident at Rosebud. The deceased was a well-known footballer around the district, having played with the Rosebud team a year or two ago, and last year captained the Seaford club. He had just recently left Seaford to accept employment at Rosebud. He leaves a widow and two young children. Deepest sympathy is extended to his parents,widow and children. (P.4, Frankston and Somerville Standard,25-11-1933.)
In about 1912,Cr Terry resigned from the Flinders and Kangerong Shire Council. The shire was almost broke and in order to determine who owed rates he had moved that descriptions of properties be improved,but his campaign was being thwarted. His campaign must have succeeded and in 1919,the following assessments were recorded. Only east half lot 2 makes no sense, but Mary might have been on 5A instead of 13A.
Mrs Mary Peatey,Rosebud, east half lot 2??? and crown allotment 13A, section A, Wannaeue.
Alfred and John Peatey,lot 76,part crown allotment 17,section A, Wannaeue.
George Peatey, Rosebud, lot 13,Rosebud.
Edwin Naylor, crown allotment 5B,Rosebud.
As you would know from the details above,the second entry is correct. I had marked my transcription of the third assessment with an asterisk because I hadn't heard about the Jetty's Cafe site having anything to do with
the Peatey family. Crown allotment 13 is now on two (or more)titles,the two double storey town houses also being on crown allotment 13. Assessment 2466 of 7-12-1918 shows that the name of Mrs Winifred Gomm had been crossed out and replaced with the name of George Peatey, so there is no doubt that George was on the block granted to William Gomm*. William had moved to Hastings and married a daughter of pioneers in that area with his brother Harry* then fishing and acting as pier master from his c/a 13 house. Naughty William, at an advanced age left his wife and finished up marrying 20 year old Winifred who sold c/a 13, Rosebud(Fishing Village) after the deaths of Henry (who had been renting the property) and William (who had retained ownership.)
(*William,Harry, and Thomas (who died at Dromana) were sons of Convict Henry Gomm and unrelated to Henry Gomm of Somerville. See their story on Graham Whitehead's City of Kingston heritage website.)
It is fortunate that the lady barber next door to Henderson's Real Estate knew I was interested in local history. She showed me a map of early Rosebud and eventually remembered who had given it to her. It was Harvey Marshall of HOPETOUN HOUSE (at least that's what the sign on his front gate in Wattle Place said.) Harvey is a descendant of Captain Adams,as was the first entry on the roll of honour,and has many documents regarding the Adams family history.
The map shows the occupants of fishing village blocks. The block on the east side of the extension of Murray Anderson Rd (which is two chains or 40 metres wide) was divided into 5A near the beach,granted to M.Latross in 1887, and the much larger 5B,granted to E.Naylor in 1884. Antonia (sic) Latros(sic), fisherman, had been living in 5A in 1879 but it is likely that a fisherman such as Andrew Nicholas or Joseph Silver (sic,Silva) was living on 5B because there is no assessment of E.Naylor. (Wannaeue Parish map,rates.) On the Early Rosebud map 5A and 5B are shown as a single block labelled "cows, dairy,poultry slept in trees,Peaty's. Murray Anderson Rd is labelled "Peaty's Creek, foot bridge, now Murray Anderson Rd."
On page 8 of ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD, Peter Wilson gave details of the creeks which emptied into the bay:
Peaty's -west side of Murray Anderson Rd; Eeling -Tom Salt Park; Adams-near The Avenue,McCrae; another at Coburn Ave. This confirms the map's information about the Peateys being on the east side of Murray Anderson Rd. Additionally,Rosalind Peatey states: "In 1894,Jack,Mary and their family settled on the beach front block on the eastern side of the creek which became Murray-Anderson Rd."
My theory is that Antonio Latross has died by 1887 and M.Latross paid the rest of the purchase price, and that from 1894 until 1920 Jack and Mary leased 5A and 5B from Latross and Naylor. Rosalind states that in 1920 a 21 acre farm, with fresh spring water, was bought where the scout hall and pony club are now.This would explain why they would not have extended their lease. Mary might well have continued her lease on the Beachside house which was most likely on 5A but it is possible that she was in a house on the Jetty's cafe site that was later occupied by Henry Thomas according to the early Rosebud map.
Getting back to the roll of honour,Rosalind also states:
Alf,Jack Jnr and George enlisted in W.W.1.The loss of two sons,one killed and another gassed and wounded, Uncle Alf with his injured ankle, and a (?-can't read my scribble!) father whose health was never robust and now 65, meant that the best use was not made of the farm.
Rosalind Peatey's father,William Henry Peatey,married Sarah Ellen Coe on 23-2-1916 with Ted Green of Main Ridge (i.e.Green's Bush)as best man. They had a working holiday roaming as far as Queensland with Sarah's dressmaking skill highly appreciated by the mistress on many isolated stations. They returned to Rosebud in 1919 and lived in Lacco's Pier Cottage (later Edward Campbell's and now the site of the proposed apartment/cafe complex at 1A and 1B Jetty Rd which was so opposed by the Rosebud community.) Bill bought a huge coutta boat from Mr C.Watson of Queenscliff. (Jim Dryden has a photo of this boat which was used to perform many rescues on the bay.It must have been Jim who told me that Edward Campbell spent nearly every day at Rosebud on the Peatey boat. I wonder if Edward was really sick, when the following was published, or out fishing!)
Regret at the illness of Councillor E.Campbell who is confined to his bed at his house at Rosebud was expressed at a meeting of the City Council yesterday. On the motion of Councillor Sir William Brunton it was agreed that a letter of sympathy should be sent to Councillor Campbell. (P.8, Argus,30-1-1930.PERSONAL.)
Edward Campbell was Lord Mayor of Melbourne in 1937-8. I wonder if Edward's malady was sea sickness!
Search for Name: PERRIN Charles
Search for PERRIN.
This would be the Rosebud teacher, aged 38 when he embarked on 2-10-1916 and killed in action 9-8-1918. Before embarking, C.R.Perrin was involved in fundraising for the patriotic fund and for cots in military hospitals, as shown by the two articles below, which also confirm the Rosebud/Elsternwick link.
2747 PERRIN, Charles Reginald Elsternwick, Victoria 58th Battalion, 6th Reinforcement
Mornington Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1911 - 1920) Saturday 29 August 1914 Edition: MORNING. p 3 Article
... Mrs I) a James secretary, and Mr W, L,. i'wyford treasurer. (C. R. Perrin, Rosebud.)
Shepparton Advertiser (Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Thursday 13 January 1916 Edition: EVENINGS. p 6 Article
... hospitals:--Base Hospital, St. Kilda road: Prailran Children's Patriotic League, £2oo; Mr C. R. Perrin (Elsternwick) (Rosebud and district), £23;
There is no indication of a connection with Rosebud in any of the A.I.F.PROJECT entries which might be S.Peters.
The Peters family had a shop on the corner of Ninth Avenue as mentioned in a history and was related to the Freemans by marriage but the only mention on trove seems to be in regard to playing footy for the Buds in the 1930's. Remembering that there was a marital connection between the Peters and Freeman families,I managed to find the following. Flora Emma was a daughter of Robert Henry Adams. Neville Freeman married one of the Peters girls.
FREEMAN, Flora Emma. On May 26, at Rosebud, loving friend of Mrs. E. J. Peters.
FREEMAN, Flora Emma. On May 26, at her residence, Daveen, Nepean Highway, Rosebud beloved wife of the late George, loving mother of Karl (deceased) Mervyn, Neville, Marjorie (Mrs. Kyle), and Phillip aged 73 years At rest. (P.14,Argus,27-5-1954.)
6625 POTTON, Sidney St Albans, Rosebud, Dromana, Victoria 8th Battalion, 21st Reinforcement
The Pottons seem to have given the name "St Albans" to their 150 acre property, between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd. Sidney's father was Charles Henry Potton.
I am fairly sure that this was C.Rigg because of his second given name. By 1916, Joseph McComb was occupying "Hindhope".
33233 RIGG, Colin Gregory 63 Manning Road, East Malvern, Victoria Field Artillery Brigade, February 1917
There is no match for N.Rigg. His name was almost certainly Norman. He, Kenneth and Colin performed a comedy sketch at a concert held in the Rosebud Mechanics' Institute in aid of the Dromana Roman Catholic organ fund.
A sketch in character, "The Gridiron," by the Masters Kenneth, Norman and Colin Rigg, was very amusing and
received great applause.(P.5,Mornington Standard, 20-5-1905.) Presumably the three were brothers.
The following is pasted from a comment under my EARLY ROSEBUD journal.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 28 June 1902 Edition: MORNING. p 2 Article
Gregory B. Rigg, of Rosebud, for 19 19s damages, by reason of a breach of contract defendant Rigg, who had a cottage at Portsea, on the Back Beach road. He gave witness authority to let this cottage last November, saying that he was moving into Rosebud and would not require to use ... 1573 words
Gregory Brennan Rigg, retired Station manager lived in a cottage on Back Beach Rd but because he was moving to Rosebud, he agreed to let it to a clergyman from Lake Rowan. When Rev.Rev. Johnston arrived, the cottage was occupied by a Mrs Buchanan. The clergyman was to pay 2 pounds per week for a fortnight to rent the cottage but had to find lodgings for his family in a detached part of the Portsea Hotel.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 6 June 1903 Edition: MORNING. p 3 Article
Greg Rigg was a member of the Rosebud Mechanics' Institute, against which Ernie Rudduck brought a charge of illegally detaining a organ belonging to Rosebud's Wesleyan Church. The case was struck out because the summons was signed by a clerk of court instead of a J.P. However, the attempt to regain the organ had caused Ernie's father, Nelson a pillar of the Wesleyan Church in Dromana, Red Hill and Rosebud, a generous and respected Dromana resident, to lose his cool. Nelson, of course, apologised to the President of the Institute but Smith still wanted damages. Mr Smallman,the police magistrate said the case was a trivial one and fined Nelson one shilling without costs.
The committee then had Nelson up for knocking off the Institute's piano. Strangely it was Alf Peatey who served a notice on Nelson to return the piano; Alf's parents, George and Susan would probably never have been able to purchase their 2 acre block at the McDowell St corner if their old friend, Nelson, had not given them the loan. I doubt if Greg (G.V.Rigg), H.A.Braddy (the Rosebud teacher if I remember my trove),Robert Cairns and William Jamieson had much to do with the demand; it sounds like another attempt by Mr Smith to belittle Nelson. Evidence showed that there was no Institute committee, and thus no use of the hall. Nelson bought the unused piano.
When a new committee was formed, Nelson paid for repairs necessary so the Health Department would not take action (the work being carried out by Mr Holloway, who had authorised the sale of the 'illegally detained' piano.) Mr Smallman was equally impressed by this "tinpot' case.
Rosebud Football Club was not formed until 1929 so sturdy little Ken Rigg played for Dromana, the only other club near Rosebud being Sorrento.
Watty Gibson played brilliantly throughout, and in the last quarter especially showed a lot of his old time cleverness. H. Hoskins worked like a Trojan and covered himself with glory (as well as mud). R. Wyatt was not quite up to his usual form-a wet ball and slippery ground are not to "Trotter's"liking. W. Evans on the back line played well, although he erred in judgment on a couple of occasions. Ken Rigg, the sturdy little Rosebud player, is improving with every match. J. Rudduck played his first game this season, and showed promising football. W. Gibson put plenty of dash into his play. A. Gibson S. Wilson, and A. Mcllroy put in some useful work.(P.3, Mornington and Dromana Standard, 10-7-1909.)
"Doreen" was sung by Mr Bayford, a humorous recitation was given by Mr Tippett, a pianoforte duet by Miss Roberts and Master Colin Rigg, and pianoforte solo by
Master Colin Rigg.(P.2,Mornington Standard, 9-9-1905.ROSEBUD.)
A meeting was held in the Mechanics' Hall on Saturday evening, for the purpose of considering the formation of a tennis court, on the Village Reserve, for the use of residents and visitors. Mr Budds (State school teacher) was voted to the chair, and a very enthusiastic and representative meeting took place. Mr H.Hunt, who generously donated 2/2/,was elected president of the club ; Mr Budds, secretary; Mr Kenneth Rigg,assistant secretary; and Mr G. B. Rigg,treasurer.
(P.3, Mornington and Dromana Standard, 10-10-1908.)
A meeting was held in Boneo Hall yesterday week to consider a proposal for holding a school and district picnic, Mr Rigg (president of the board of advice) in the chair..(P.2, Mornington Standard, 2-12-1905.)
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 21 October 1885 p 1 Family Notices RIGG-BRAITHWAITE.-On the 13th inst., at Went- worth, N.S.W., by the Rev. - Long, Gregory B. Rigg, of Bunnerungie Station, N.S.W., to Eleanor F ... 592 words
RIGG -On the 8th. February, at Alfred Hospital, Gregory Brennan Rigg, loving husband of the late Eleanor,loving father of Kenneth, Norman, Colin, Rebecca (Mrs. G.W.Evans) and Donald[deceased], aged 77 years.(P.1, Argus,10-2-1930.)
(WICKHAM G.,W., H.)
2649 WICKHAM, Gilbert Melton Railway Station, Melton, Victoria 15th Battalion, 8th Reinforcement
I suspect that the following is H.Wickham and that he was Gilbert's brother,both having a mother named Mary Ann.
9 WICKHAM, Frederick Horace 'Ideal View', May Street, Deepdene, Victoria Australian Army Pay Corps
This is definitely W.Wickham. Click on his name and his address "Melton Railway Station" is revealed.His father was G.Wickham and I suspect he was a cousin of Gilbert (aged 27) and Horace.
417 WICKHAM, Walter Artillery Barracks, Melbourne, Victoria Siege Artillery Brigade
See George Henry Jarry,the W.W.1 imposter who settled in Rosebud, in comments.
Last night I chanced upon a notice of the marriage of Robert Rowley and Christina/Christena Edwards which I added to my MALLEE TO RYE:THE ROWLEY CONNECTION journal. I also sent a copy of the addition to Linda Berndt, who with Phil Cain, does much research on the area west of Rosebud for the Rye Historical Society, whose museum in the grounds of Rye Primary School is well worth a visit.
Linda replied to my email providing much information, demonstrating why I like to connect people who private message me about the same family. Each person might not necessarily double previously found knowledge but the pool of information will certainly be bigger.
One thing that perplexed me was that the two Williams brothers died only one day apart, according to the late Ray Cairns, but only one was named on the grave inscription where he was buried in the same grave as his sister Carrie. Linda supplies the reason! The Rowley, Jennings and Williams families are discussed in several of my journals.
NOTE THAT WALTER JENNINGS, NOTED TENOR AND LEADER OF THE FRANKSTON CHORAL SOCIETY, WAS NOT RELATED TO THE JENNINGS FAMILY OF RYE, MEMBERS OF WHICH LATER RAN A DAIRY AT THE CORNER OF PT. NEPEAN RD AND ROSEBUD PDE, OUTSIDE WHICH STANDS A STATUE OF JACK JENNINGS AND A POTTED HISTORY OF HIS FAMILY.
Walter Jennings formed a touring company in about 1914, and in the absence of Walter and the accompanist,the Frankston Choral Society was forced into temporary recess. Decades later,Walter was still in high demand to perform in concerts and was advertised as a drawcard.
Rochester Express (Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Tuesday 26 May 1914 p 3 Article
... Walter Jennings, who possesses one of the most beautiful tenor voices at present in Australia ETC.
Heyfield Herald (Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Thursday 9 April 1914 p 2 Article
... Mr Syd Stewart, clever comedian and female impersonator; Mr Percival Wilmot (bdsno), Mr Walter Jennings (tenor), and Miss ilosa Walton, in charming monologues and songs at the piano.
Frankston & Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 29 January 1937 p 3 Article
... Nellie Melba. It is probable that Mr., Walter Jennings, the noted tenor, will also appear, if .
(Wally needed a lift to Somerville, most likely from Rosebud, in order to appear!)
Here's Linda's reply.
Do have Ronnies details through Dad. Most interesting. I know Bob Rowley always said his great grandparents were married in Tasmania and his writings attest that. Havent written much about the Rowley's because Bob wrote so much. It is his writings in Nells book. Nell Arnold you may like to know is now 103!!! Although in care she is still with it mentally.
I was looking at your writings this arvo. I can clear up the Williams cemetery story for you. It is common knowledge around the older Rye folk that the two Williams boys always fought. When they died Caroline said she would be buried between them to keep them apart in death. The reason one doesnt have a headstone and the other does is because one saved his money so Caroline bought him a headstone. The other was less frugal so she didnt get him a headstone and wouldnt outlay the cost herself. The kids at school love that story!!! We do a working bee in the cemetery every week and that story gets told EVERY week.
xxx, I was also having a look at the Jennings bit. Although there were also Jennings at Rosebud in the early part of the 1900s, this family is not related to us in any way. Walter Jennings had a beautiful singing voice and was a fine musician. I know he played a lot around Frankston. I have copied across the ones that arent relevant to my lineage. You may also be interested to learn that although the newspaper article states Cec married in Portsea he was actually married in Northcote, about 3 days after that article appears! Just goes to show you cant believe all that goes in the papers.There may have been a pre wedding gathering at the Tucks in Portsea but not sure, certainly no wedding there.
K. Jennings, the hiker was Kath (Hannah Katherine Mary) Jennings, daughter of Cec. She ended up marrying Wally Faux from Horsham and settling there, her sister and a brother also ended up in Horsham. That is how Clarrie ended up there for a few years.
Our Jennings family arrived in 1914 and until the 1920s when they leased the Tootgarook Run from the Purves family (by then named Rye Park) and my great grandfather bought a milk round from Rowleys they only lived in Rye on the farm boarded by Dundas, Weeroona (then Jennings Rd) and Browns road.
The Rye farm which was first known as Milangil then changed to Kariah after old Dod died was sold by Cec in the 1950s. My great grandfather Ern sold his part to Cec in the 40s. The family had the chance to purchase the land in Tootgarook which extended from Government Road to Morris street and back as far as Brights drive for a pound an acre but my great grandfather said no because the land would never amount to anything!!!!! The original homestead on the corner of Leonard street was knocked down about 4 years ago. (#@**%$ Shire). It was a wattle and daub place which had been bricked around, the original fence posts were there until the place was knocked down also. This was the site of the first licenced inn.
Jennings book being launched at the Family reunion on the 26th April. I will make sure Rosebud Library get a copy.
I enjoy your writings, every now and then I click on to see whats there, keep it up!!!
Those assessed in 1919 on land in section A# were:
A.L.Adcock, Red Hill, 6, 7, N.A.V. 2 POUNDS!; H.Cairns 14, c/o Mrs Papper, 433 George St.,Fitzroy; Mace, Wangaratta, 84, 85,86; W.R.Mullens 17, 18, c/o Jennings Rosebud; J.Patterson,Rosebud, 13; Mrs Emily June Ada Nethercote, Hawthorn, 12.
Not all of the above gained title. H.Cairns could have been Harry or Helen, neither of whom died for some time so the partly paid-off block may have been sold because of financial difficulties or an offer that couldn't be refused. The Mullens and Jennings family were related by marriage as shown in part 1*.
(# Of the Hindhope Estate)
15--- 9-3-1921 --Gladys Iris Jennings-50'-----Plaza Car Park to east kerb of entry/exit separator.
16--- 9-3-1921----Gladys Iris Jennings---50'-----to diagonal crack in footpath west of entry/exit.
JENNINGS CONNECTIONS (FROM HINDHOPE PART 1. which specifies the land bought north of McCombe St. by Gladys.)
ALWAY-JENNINGS.-The marriage of Betty Irene, elder daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Alway, Hillside avenue, East
Malvern, to Frederick Rowland, youngest son of the late Mr. Walter Jennings and Mrs.G.Jennings, Rosebud, will be celebrated at St. John's Church, Finch street, East Malvern, on Monday, April 15, at 5.30 p.m. (P.10, Argus, 12-4-1946.)
JENNINGS (nee Gladys Mullen). On the 10th November, at Nurse McInne's private hospital,Box Hill, the wife of Walter Gordon Jennings,of "Dalgabeena," Blackburn a son (Gordon Roberts).(P.11, Argus,12-12-1914.) So that's why the Mullen assessment was to be sent to Mrs Jennings in 1919!
MULLEN.-On March l8, at Hobart, Lt.-Col. L. M. Mullen, loving brother of Gladys (Mrs. W. G. Jennings. Rosebud,
Vic). -Duty nobly done.(P.2, Argus, 20-3-1943.)
ROBERT ROWLEY'S MARRIAGE.
ROWLEY-EDWARDS - By the Rev. J Smithies, at the house of Mr Joseph Tongs, Illawarra Christina Edwards, the only daughter of Mr William Edwards, of Newborough, Fife, Scotland, to Mr Robert Rowley, of Dromana, Victoria.
(Launceston Examiner (Tas. : 1842 - 1899) Tuesday 22 January 1861 Edition: MORNING p 5 Family Notices)
There was an identical notice on 1-1-1861 but I could not re-find it.
You got me wondering about the Rowley marriage. Have done a check on Ancestry and also with the Tasmanian Records online. Robert Rowley married Christina Edwards at Longford, Tasmania on 28 Dec 1860 rego number 553.
Cheers (from Linda Berndt.)
The following makes it possible that Robert Rowley worked for Peter Pidoto at Dromana for 15 years or more. He received the grants for 46A and 46 Wannaeue on 13-2-1883 and 7-7-1886 respectively. It would seem that Robert left Dromana soon after Emma's birth, built a house on the foreshore while continuing his aquatic activity,as a fisherman,and then turned to farming,settling and building a house on 41A before 1879. (See below.) The spelling of his wife's given name is given as Christina in all family notices seen so far;Christena could be an error made by the carver or transcriber of the grave inscription.
Mary Christina Rowley BIRTH: 1866 Dromana, Victoria, Australia ...
10 Records - Born in Dromana, Victoria, Australia on 1866 to Robert Rowley and Christina Edwards. ... Potential photos and documents for Mary Christina Rowley.
Emma Rowley BIRTH: 1875 Dromana, Victoria, Australia DEATH
Emma Rowley. Found 10 Records, 4 Photos and 582,137 Family Trees. Born in Dromana, Victoria, Australia on 1875 to Robert Rowley and Christina Edwards.
ROBERT ROWLEY'S SECOND HOUSE IN RYE.
Ron Doig,a Rowley descendant told me that Robert's first house in Rye was on the foreshore opposite the post office,his second house was near the southern boundary of 41A (south of Belar St near Carboor St, Melway 169 C8) and his third at 17 Lyons St.
The second house would have to be the one referred to below.
"Tourism commenced in a small way late in the 19th century,in the form of an old pioneer's house which was owned and built by Robert Rowley before 1879,being converted into the "Alma Guest House" (sic?).
(2461 - 5 PNR Rye HERITAGE ASSESSMENT 090522 - Mornington ...
The crown allotments on the west side of Truemans Rd between Pt Nepean Rd and the freeway reservation were granted to Ben Stenniken,James Trueman and Robert Rowley. James Trueman's 112 acre crown allotment was subdivided as the Doigs' Oceanaires Estate (eastern half) and the western half as the Almaray Estate. The latter estate name combined the names of Panda's hairdresser,Raymond Guest, and his wife Alma. The origins of other street names on the two estates are explained elsewhere. Houses on both sides of Bona and Guest Streets are on the Trueman grant. It is likely that Alma and Ray Guest bought all or part of the land south of the Guest St houses and that ALMA GUEST lived in Robert Rowley's pre-1879 homestead. It is possible that the house was used as a guest house by Robert Rowley because James Little Brown "stayed with Robert for a few weeks" when he arrived in Rye from the Mallee. It is also possible that Robert named it Alma House but I believe that "Alma Guest House" means a house belonging to Alma Guest.