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There was not one mention of the Kidgells in Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA so why were William and Henrietta buried at Dromana? I wouldn't bother to ask this question on the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook page because the only reply from the so-called true locals would be "because they were dead."
For a local or family history to be published at a price that potential buyers can afford, it must be kept fairly short, so not every early resident is going to be mentioned. Another reason some pioneers are not mentioned is that oral history sources could not be expected to make reference to everyone they knew. Imagine how many families you could recall if you were asked for anecdotes about relatives and neighbours from your childhood days.
Parish maps, post office directories and rate records help greatly in finding some of the early pioneers and once an early family is identified in a particular area, trove can help to follow members of that family as they move away from the nest. Rarely is such migration mentioned in localised histories because few readers (apart from the person's family) would be greatly interested. But apart from many Victorian lads trying their luck in Western Australia during the 1890's depression, finding future wives during both world wars near training camps, and chasing employment opportunities such as Michael Cain of Rye and Edward Jones of Moorooduc at Adelaide,there were teachers such as Richard Gilsenan of Bulla and J.W.Hazledine of Picola and bank employees such as Gerald Richardson, (treasurer of the Mornington Bowling Club who helped to found the Rosebud club) who transferred from one place to another quite frequently.
With the assistance of Scott Jangro and family tree circles, itellya is able to follow these pioneers as they seek opportunities, without the limitations imposed by the need to publish an affordable book. THANKS, SCOTT!
I need to find my full Kidgell biography, which goes back to William Kidgell's father, a minister. However, my failure to find it so far has led to several new discoveries. As I know nothing personally about 99.99% of the pioneers I research, imagine my delight in finding the connection between these pioneers and my old mate,Mawler!
Extracts from my CHRONOLOGY OF BURIALS (WITH BIOGS) AT DROMANA, VIC., AUST.
29-8-1939. MR. WILLIAM KIDGELL.
MR. WILLIAM KIDGELL
Mr William Kidgell, of Dromana, died yesterday at a private hospital in Burwood. Mr Kidgell, who was aged 89 years, came to Australia in 1852, and first lived in Emerald Hill and Brighton. He carried on the business of Morley and Co., contractors, from 1877 to 1930. Mr Kidgell was one of the founders of the Melbourne Savage Club, of which he was honorary treasurer for 36 years, a vice-president, and later a life member. He was a member of the Employers Federation executive for many years, and also a president of the Master Carriers' Association, of which he was one of the founders.
Mr Kidgell has left a widow, four daughters, two sons, eleven grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. Thefuneral will leave the chapel of W. G.Apps and Sons Pty. Ltd., High street, St.
Kilda, for the Dromana Cemetery at 10 a.m. to-day. (P.4, Argus, 29-8-1939.)
N.B. THE FAMILY DETAILS IN THE OBITUARY SEEM TO HAVE BEEN COMPILED FROM THE FIRST DEATH NOTICE BELOW. HETTIE’S DEATH NOTICE (SEE 29-2-1940) MENTIONS ONLY ONE SON (HENRY) MORLEY KIDGELL, THE DROMANA AND SOUTH MELBOURNE FOOTBALLER, AND THE DECEASED MRS DOUGLAS IS NAMED AS LENORA PHYLLIS.
KIDGELL - On the 28th August at private hospital, Burwood, William of Coolamai, Dromana, beloved husband of Hettle M and loving father of Marlon, Ruby (deceased), Morley, Ethel (Mrs A C Smith) Leonard?, Phyllis (Mrs Douglas deceased), Marjorie (Mrs G Rust) and Dorothy (Mrs R,Mcllroy) In his 90th year, a colonist of 86 years. (Private Interment at Dromana )
KIDGELL - On the 28th August William loving grandfather of Alleen (Mrs R J Clarke), Robert, Jack and Joan Kldgell, Harold Douglas, June Smith, William Kldgell, Gwen and Geoff Kldgell, Phyllis Mcllroy and John Rust, and great grandfather of Geoff and Janet Clarke and Robin Douglas. (Both P.8, Argus, 29-8-1939.)
William’s wife Henrietta Maria (nee Morley) was known as Hettie. Their diamond wedding notice has been posted in Hettie’s entry (29-2-1940.)
In 1919, William Kidgell was assessed on 1.5 acres and buildings , crown allotments 3-5, section 12 (Dromana Township.) These allotments fronted both Codrington and Verdon Sts 40 metres from Hodkinson St and extending 60 metres inland. Melbourne Brindle’s pre 1919 map of Dromana shows the Kidgell house (Coolamai) fronting the east side of Codrington St 40 metres from Hodgkinson St. The house was therefore on lot 3, granted to W.Withers. William had probably purchased lots 4 and 5 from descendants of R.D.Quinan, first teacher at Dromana Common School who committed suicide because of the shame of a book keeping error he’d made in his part time job for the Kangerong Road Board.
William and Hettie retired to Dromana but would have been visitors every summer and most likely every weekend during the footy season to see the lad play before and after his stint with South Melbourne. Morley might have been still playing for Dromana when his sister Dorothy married Richard McIlroy a descendant of an early pioneer at Red Hill who may also have been playing for Dromana like one of his Cleine relatives had in 1902; Red Hill didn’t have its own team until 1929.
Spouse's family name- MCILROY…. Spouse's given name-Richd
Reg. year-1924……Reg. no-70
Dorothy McIlroy died in 1985 (reg. no.13963.)
A lad named Kidgell shows promise of becoming a footballer. (Morley –surname-was another Dromana footballer mentioned in this 1902 match.) P.4, Mornington Standard, 6-9-1902.
Henry Morley Kidgell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Henry Morley Kidgell (27 March 1881 – 30 January 1948) was a former Australian rule
Henry married Doris Mackenzie of Caulfield in 1908.
A biography giving details of William’s father and containing many other articles such as the above footballer suggesting a bridge between Spencer and Clarendon Sts* has been written. It just has to be found!
* NEW BRIDGE OVER YARRA. Petition by Carriers.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 2 July 1921 p 16 Article
... ' Association of' Victoria, held on Thursday evening, the president (Mr. H. Morley Kidgell) said that the new ..
29-2-1940. MRS HENRIETTA MARIA (HETTIE) KIDGELL (nee Morley*.)
KIDGELL.— On February 28, at Dromana,Maria,widow of the late William Kidgell, loving
mother of Marion (Mrs. O. J. Kidgell), Ruby(deceased), Morley, Ethel (Mrs. A. C. Smith),
Lenora Phyllis (Mrs. H. G. Douglas, deceased), Marjorie (Mrs. G. Rush), and Dorothy (Mrs.
R. McIlroy), in her 85th year. Private interment at Dromana.
KIDGELL. — On February 28, Henrietta Maria, loving grandmother of Aileen (Mrs. R. J.
Clark), Robert, Jack and Jonn Kidgell, Marjorie (deceased) and Harold Douglas, June Smith,
William Kidgell, Gwen and Jeoff Kidgell, John Rush and Phyllis McIlroy, and great grandmother
of Geoff and Janet Clarke, Robin Douglas and Bruce Kidgell. (Both P.1, The Age, 29-2- 1940.)
* Mr. and Mrs, Kidgell. Mr. and Mrs. William Kidgell, who celebrated their diamond wedding at Dromana last week, were married in St.James' Cathedral sixty years ago by Rev. Canon Beecher. Mr. Kidgell is a son of the late Rev. and Mrs. H.Kidgell, and Mrs. Kidgell is the daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. W. Morley, who were among the earliest settlers in Sandridge. Mrs. Kidgell proudly boasts that she attended the ball at Government House, Melbourne, in 1868, in honour of the Duke of Edinburgh. Her father was one of the first mayors of Sandridge. A brother of Mr, Kidgell lived In St- Vincent's' Place, Albert Park, for many years. (P.7, Record, Emerald Hill, 25-4-1936.)
MY MATE MORLEY; WE CALLED HIM MAWLER!
I WAS BORN IN 1943 AND MORLEY WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS YOUNGER SO THIS IS DEFINITELY HIM. John William Kidgell and Myrtle Gladys Meadows had married in 1942. Morley’s dad, son of the South Melbourne footballer and Doris Emma (McKenzie), died in 1975.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 23 August 1945 p 2 Family Notices
... ). KIDGELL.-On July 20, at Queen Victoria, to Myrtle and John-a son (John Morley)
I know nothing about any other people discussed in this chronology except what I have read but this one is personal. When I moved from Ascot Vale to Kensington circa 1950, one of my first friends in the new place was Morley Kidgell. When we had a game of end to end on the South Ken Flat south of Derby St and not far from his place in Tennyson St, he always wore his South Melbourne jumper and now I know why he was so proud of it. Morley and I opened the bowling for the Holy Trinity (C. of E.) Sunday School cricket team. Morley’s family had a T.V. and my brother and I spent many hours watching mainly Westerns. When they finished, Morley’s stepbrother, Normie Meadows, used to make us laugh by pretending to empty the drip tray to get rid of the blood. Morley’s dad was just about paralysed and if I remember correctly, an auntie Vi was helping his mum look after him. When I bought my first car, Normie, who soon after married Florence Hamilton of Market St Kensington, used to keep it running for me. Norm was a very popular leader of the church youth group (Y.A.F.) until he and Florence moved away to establish their own home. Morley was going out with Barbara Goatley of the Oak Park area whom he’d met at a Y.A.F. camp and as I was going out with a girl from Glenroy, I used to drive him home to his new home near the Syndal Station on Friday nights, play cards till 3 a.m. and then be woken by Morley’s mum at 7 a.m. with a hearty breakfast. After almost waking up, I’d drive him to work in the city, maybe first to Myer, his first place of employment, and Dunklings where he forged a successful career, eventually, after studying hard, becoming a valuer of jewellery, and consultant to Dunklings after establishing his own business, with his wife, Barbara. My wife and I enjoyed holidays in Morley’s caravan at Peninsula Gardens and later his holiday home at Rye.
His children displayed similar drive achieving the same sort of success in their careers as their father had. Morley also had success as a basketball coach and referee. The children lived for this sport and no doubt inherited the Henry Morley Kidgell genes regarding sporting ability and height, Melinda, the only daughter, was quite tall when I last saw the family when staying at their holiday home near Thompson St, Rye. Unfortunately, I have lost contact with my old friend as he seems to have left his home by the Yarra where I last visited after the freeway had led to his East Doncaster home being compulsorily acquired.
Morley’s given name came from the maiden name of William Kidgell’s widow. The South Melbourne footballer was named Henry Morley Kidgell, the first given name being the masculine version of his mother’s first given name and the second his mother’s maiden name. William Kidgell spent his working life working for Morley Brothers prior to retiring to Dromana and like his son,(Henry) Morley Kidgell, was president of the Carriers’ Association. H.M.Kidgell was responsible for suggesting that a bridge be built to link Spencer St., Melbourne and Clarendon St., South Melbourne and you’ll be surprised how recently the bridge was built. Details such as above, their location in Dromana etc. will be found in my extensive KIDGELL/MORLEY BIOGRAPHY; once I locate it, I will paste it here or provide a link. The biography came about when I stumbled on an obituary for William Kidgell before I started this chronology.
A "Kidgell, Dromana" search on trove illustrated just how limiting the quotation marks are, but also showed that apart from William retiring to Dromana, his descendants became permanent residents of Dromana.
Larry's given name was often given as Lawrence but I have decided to accept, as the correct version, the spelling inscribed on the two adjacent gravestones at Dromana Cemetery.
I have stated countless times that Laurence was a coach proprietor before running the Arthurs Seat Hotel (formerly Scurfield's) at Dromana and then the Dromana Hotel. I couldn't remember where this information came from, and when I discovered that it hadn't been mentioned in Victoria and Its Metropolis, I suspected that it must have been in an obituary. I was looking for confirmation that his first wife, Annie, was actually buried at Dromana, and although I haven't found it, it seems that she was. The memorial stones actually indicate the graves of Lawrence in 1911 and Annie in 1899. A memorial does not always indicate that a person was buried there as in the case of 7 year old Ronnie Hipwell and, probably, the son of Judge Henry Bournes Higgins who was killed in W.W.1; his memorial being far more grand than that of his famous father. It has taken me hours to find the obituary, during which time I have discovered that he had married again, his second wife's name being Ann. The death of Lawrence in 1911 does not appear in the Victora death index; perhaps his name was recorded as Larry! His second wife died in 1918 and I have been unable to confirm the maiden name of Larry's first or second wives. Perhaps LARRY might be the golden search term, as KIRKPATRICK'S was in finding the obituary.
The obituary was included in one of my journals years ago, but goodness knows which one. Larry deserves a journal of his own!
MORNINGTON'S GREAT LOSS.
SUDDEN DEATH OF MR L.MURPHY.
It is with profound regret we record the death of one of Mornington's most popular citizens, in the person of
Mr Larry Murphy. The sad event took place at his late residence, Kirkpatrick's Hotel, Mornington, on Friday
night, May 26th, after one day's illness,the cause of death being heart failure.His demise came as a great shock to the whole community, as Mr Murphy was about as usual the day before. As the sad news spread, great sorrow was
expressed everywhere, as his kind and genial manner had made him many friends,and he died as peacefully as he lived, at the age of 62 years.
The late Mr Murphy was born at Ballinatona, County of Wicklow, Ireland, and arrived in Australia 35 years ago. He took up farming at Benalla, and afterwards ran Cobb and Co's.coaches at Kilmore, and was then transferred to Mornington. In 1886 he went into partnership with Mr.Rooke, and ran vehicles from Mornington to Frankston and Dromana.
In 1892 he took over the Arthurs Seat Hotel at Dromana, and four and a half years later assumed possession of the Dromana Hotel, where he remained until 18 months ago, when he came to Kirkpatrick's Hotel, Mornington.
While at Dromana the late gentleman always took a lively interest in sport and the advancement of the
place generally. He was the chief one in the erection of the Catholic Church, and gave half an acre of land,
upon which it is built. He was also a great supporter of the church at Mornington, and his loss there will be
On Sunday the body, which was encased in a massive oak coffin, was conveyed to the Dromana Church,where service was held previous to the funeral which took place at 2.30, the remains being interred in the Dromana cemetery. The cortege was a lengthy one, and representative of the whole of the district. Several drag loads came from Mornington, including representatives from the Mornington Football and Athletic Sports Clubs, of which
the deceased was vice-president, the Mornington Racing Club, of which he was a patron, and a large number of
The coffin-bearers were Mr Hazledine (Dromana), Messrs Austin,Cooper, and W. Hurley (Sorrento),and Messrs J. Conroy, M. Daley, E.Burne (Byrne?) (Mornington). The Rev. Father O'Hagan officiated at the grave, and the mortuary arrangements were carried out most satisfactorily by Mr Summerland, of Mornington.Amongst the floral tributes was a magnificent wreath, sent by the Mornington Football Club. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 3-6-1911.)
MURPHY.— On the 5th March, at the Dromana Hotel, Dromana, Annie, beloved wife of Laurence Murphy. R.I.P.
(P.1, The Age, 6-3-1899.) There was no funeral notice and an obituary does not name the cemetery in which she was interred.
MURPHY. -On the 28th August at private hospital,South Yarra, Ann relict of the late Lawrence Murphy, late of Mornington, the loved mother of Sister Lawrence and Jack and Henry (on active service), and the beloved sister of Mrs Eliza O'Brien 8 Crown street Richmond and loved aunt of Jack O'Brien,aged 70 years. R.I P.(No flowers.)P.1, Argus, 29-8-1918.
The above makes it possible that Ann was the widow of a Mornington storekeeper (The Railway Store)whose son, one of the many Mornington footballers to drown in the 1892 was, strangely, buried in the DROMANA cemetery.
(24-5-1892. ALFRED HERBERT LAWRENCE, AGED 19.) However attempts to find a Jack/John or Henry Lawrence born at Mornington in the A.I.F. Project have been unsuccessful.
Larry would have been born in County Wicklow about 1849 and arrived about 1876 when he would have been about 27 years old. His first wife Annie was born in about 1855 and would have been about 21 in 1876 so she might have been already married to Larry or perhaps met him near Benalla. Annie's death notice,and gravestone, make no mention of children but her obituary does.
Quite a gloom was cast over the district when it became known that Mrs.Murphy, wife of Mr. L. Murphy, of
Dromana Hotel, had died suddenly. Some months ago she underwent a severe operation successfully, but it
apparently left her in a very weak state of health. However, it was not anticipated that her end was so near.
Last Saturday, whilst she was out mushrooming with her little daughter, she was seized with a fit. Dr. Somers was quickly called in attendance, but he gave up all hope and she passed away early on Sunday morning, never having regained consciousness.
The deceased lady was popular with everyone throughout the district, and was always ever ready to assist in any movement without any consideration for class or creed. Her many acts of kindness will long be remembered, and her demise is looked upon as an irreparable loss to the district. Great sympathy is evinced for her husband and family.
A large number of residents representing the whole of the peninsula, attended the funeral and the cortege was one of the longest ever seen in the district. The Rev. Father O'Hagan officiated at the grave, and delivered a most impressive service. (P.3, Mornington Standard,9-3-1899.)
Larry's second wife, Ann,would have been born in about 1848 and would have been about 51 years old when Larry's first wife died. It is unlikely that she and Larry would have had any children together, so Sister Lawrence, Jack and Henry must have been offspring from a previous marriage.
I had to include Larry's death notice (English version) here because it seems certain now that Jack and Henry, on active service in 1918, were sons of Larry's first wife and that the little daughter who was picking mushrooms with Larry's first wife in 1899 became a nun (not a nurse as I had first supposed) named Sister Lawrence. The second wife regarded the three children as being her children. That's why Larry's gravestone is inscribed "Erected by his loving wife and children.) Perhaps Anne had known and loved Annie's children for ages!
And here’s Larry’s death notice translated into English!
MURPHY.— On the 26th May, at Kirkpatrick's Hotel. Mornington, Lawrence, the dearly beloved
husband of Anne Murphy, and father of John, Henry and Annie, aged 63 years.
(P.13, Argus, 27-5-1911.) It would seem that Larry’s second wife had borne no children before her marriage to Larry and that Annie was the little daughter who was mushrooming with Annie, the first wife, in 1899 and became Sister Lawrence by 1918.
One of Annie's two sons (on active service by 1918) regarded as her own by his stepmother, Anne, was:
3878 MURPHY, John Lawrence National Trustees Company, 113 Queen Street, Melbourne, Victoria 23rd Battalion, 9th Reinforcement (details below.)
Regimental number 3878
Place of birth Mornington Victoria
Religion Roman Catholic
Address National Trustees Company, 113 Queen Street, Melbourne, Victoria
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 28
Next of kin Step-Mother, Mrs A Murphy, 10* Crown Street, Richmond, Melbourne, Victoria
Enlistment date 14 July 1915
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 23rd Battalion, 9th Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/49/3
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A69 Warilda on 8 February 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll Private
Unit from Nominal Roll 23rd Battalion
Fate Returned to Australia 6 November 1918
Place of burial Tidworth Military Cemetery (Row A, Grave No. 66), North Tidworth, Wiltshire
Panel number, Roll of Honour,
Australian War Memorial 99
*Next door to her sister, Eliza (Mrs O'Brien)of 8 Crown St.
Henry might have been married, his wife given as next of kin.
ALF DOWNWARD, HIS SON-IN-LAW, WILFRED PITT, AND THOSE HISTORIC REDWOOD GUMS AT THE END OF DOWNWARD ST, MORNINGTON.
Wilfred Pitt probably grew up on Tuerong Park, as I’ve just discovered. When Joan Downward told me in 2010 about the bloke that Ivy Downward had married, I had probably not known about the Pitt tenure on Tuerong Park. Excellent articles by Joan about the Downward genealogy and land near Tubbarubba can be found in BALNARRING BYWAYS AND MEMORIES. The following results from Wilfred Pitt’s association with the Mornington Bowling Club which celebrates its centenary in 2017.
Mr. Walker moved a vote of
thanks to Messrs Pitt*, Scott,
Ward and Mills for the work
they had done as committeemen
during their term of office.
(P.14, Standard, 23-9-1948.)
*On the south side of Wilson Rd was a property named Redwood which adjoined a property, granted to A.B.Balcombe, and fronting Strachans Rd named Redgum Flat. Both properties were named because of the ancient river red gums at the end of Downward St. Redwood, granted to T.W.Birmingham and F.Prickman (did I hear somebody laugh?) was bought by Alf Downward. Pitt St was named after Alf Downward's daughter, Ivy. (Source: Joan Downward.)
PITT (nee Ivy Downward).—On the 18th May at Santa Rosa private hospital, to Mr. and Mrs. W. Pitt, Redwood, Mornington—a son (Alfred Downward Leonard—prematurely). (P.1, Argus, 25-5-1947.)
WILFRED PITT WAS FROM DEVON IN ENGLAND. His best man, Arthur Pitt, was probably his brother.
Alf Downward had much property near Tubbarubba, (near the junction of the parishes of Moorooduc,Balnarring and Kangerong) and Ivy possibly met Wilfred during a trip to visit her brother, Herbert, at that locality as there was a Pitt property, Tuerong Park, on Three Chain (Moorooduc) road, by 1906. H.G.Pitt was probably Wilfred's father and would have been Alf's colleague on Mornington council.
Pitt St on the homestead block of "Redwood" was named after Ivy and Downward St was named after her unmarried sister, Elsie May*, who lived in the homestead with Ivy following Wilfred's death.
After the sisters had died, developers wanted to remove the Redwood Gums but a storm of protest saved them. (Cutting provided by Joan Downward and included in my THE FEMALE DROVER: A HISTORY OF MOOROODUC, 2010, provided to the Mornington Historical Society.)
GERALD HOUGHTON RICHARDSON, FIRST MANAGER OF ROSEBUD'S NATIONAL BANK IN 1946.
Did he stay long enough for anyone to remember him and Mona?
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 22 October 1955 p 8 Family Notices
... -GRAY. - The engagement ls announced of Mary Yvonne, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. G. H. Richardson, National ... Bank, Healesville, to Maurice Peter, youngest son of Mr. andi Mrs. A. .Gray, Donnellys Weir road .
The opening of the 1947-8 season revealed for the first time the name of the SMART greenkeeper and links with other clubs that were soon to form the peninsula association. Was a former Mornington treasurer involved in the formation of the Rosebud club?
CLUB'S OFFICIAL OPENING.
Before a record number of play
ers and spectators, the Morning
ton bowling green was oflicially
opened by Cr. B. I. Watson (Mornl
ington Shire president) last Satur
The greens looked a picture, and
the attractive appearance was
most favorably commented upon
by the large assemblage: The new
pavilion is an added attraction,
and a delightful afternoon tea was
The president of the Club (Cr.
A. J. Kirton) welcomed the visi
tors, among .whom were bowlers
and their wives from Frankston,
Sorrento, and Rosebud. Mr Ger
ald Richardson*, who was treasurer
of the Mornington Club prior to
removing to Rosebud, took part
in the day's enjoyment.(etc.)
(P.6, Standard, 16-10-1947.)
* NATIONAL BANK AT ROSEBUD.
The National Bank of Australasia
Ltd; will open a new branch at
Rosebud on Monday, June 3. This
establishment represents a conver
sion of the receiving office services
which the Mornington Branch has
conducted at Rosebud since 1927.
The new branch will be under the
management of Mr. G. H. Richard
son, formerly accountant, Morning
ton Branch, with Mr. A. B. Evans,teller.
(P.6, Standard, 30-5-1946.)
Unfortunately the Rosebud Bowls club history on the internet
does not mention the original committee but it's a fair bet that Gerald was involved. Gerald was working for the National Bank at Yarrawonga in 1934 when his wife (nee Mona Severin) gave birth to a daughter on 12 March. The birth was announced in a South Australian newspaper because Mona Mary Severin had been born at Eudunda, S.A. on 8-10-1899 and married Gerald Houghton Richardson in 1925, also in South Australia. Mona's parents were most likely descendants of early German pioneers.
RICHARDSON, Gerald Houghton & SEVERIN, Mona Mary
BOTTLE MESSAGE FROM THE SEA How Pirie Housewife Received It After 22½ Years
Recorder (Port Pirie, SA : 1919 - 1954) Thursday 26 May 1938 p 2 Article
In 1938 Gerald and Mona were in Swan Hill, according to the above article, so they obviously moved from one branch of the bank to another fairly regularly. This is a fascinating story about the husband of Mona's sister, Gladys.
RED HILL REUNION OCTOBER 2017.
The last reunion in March 2015 was well-attended despite many people having prior commitments, the Prossor clan being rather reunioned-out and the Rosebud High School and Hilli reunions being on the same weekend.
Another Red Hill reunion is planned for OCTOBER 2017. Could anybody planning another event which would clash with it ring or text me on 0490 253 134 so it can be arranged that those interested aren't forced to choose which one to support.
Readers will be able to alert distant relatives and friends about the "back to" and tell them about the wonderful histories that have recently been written, with details about pioneers such as Hill Hillis, the Daveys of Forest Lodge, the McKeowns, McIlroys, Blooming Bob White, the Blakeleys and Edward Barker, H.B.Simon, Watson Eaton, Thomas Chapman, the scalped Arkwell lad, George Cussons, the postmaster and his wonderful paintings of James Wiseman's homestead and the original Red Hill school, Barry Wright's family of Wildwood- with a huge collection of photos,and informative maps etc. Helen Blakeley's marvellous book will be launched at the reunion.
As soon as the possibility of a clash of local events has been prevented, I will provide updates (IN COMMENTS) regarding date and venue, If readers and the former residents with whom they're in contact know of a planned wedding etc it would help if they can let me know the date so a clash can be prevented if possible.
P.S. I don't know how many of the longtime residents have computers, so can readers who live near any of them please let them know if they don't read HILL 'N' RIDGE.
FATHER HORACE TUCKER, VICAR OF CHRIST CHURCH, SOUTH YARRA. It's a bit of a stretch to say that Father Tucker was a pioneer of the Mornington Peninsula but he was the reason that the Boyington lad plays footy for Rosebud. My former neighbour at Rosebud, Gordon, spent much of his childhood at the Tucker Village Settlement at Carrum during the 1930's depression, and then Frankston, where he lived until his wife died. As a teenager, Gordon Boyington roamed the the area near Frankston, including Mt. Eliza.
When I was researching the Red Hill Village Settlement, I was puzzled by an article about a Government party inspecting the Village Settlement at Red Hill and then being driven a few miles to the railway station. It turned out that this was not the settlement to which Prossors Lane provided access but was near Longwarry.
Helen Blakeley's family history supplies much information about OUR Red Hill but also adds greatly to Michael Cannon's description of the misery caused by the 1890's depression. The Government set up Village Settlements so the starving families could grow their own food but Father Tucker probably did this first.
THE TUCKER VILLAGE SETTLEMENTS. FIRST ANNIVERSARY AT WONWONDAH.
The Horsham Times (Vic. : 1882 - 1954) Friday 26 May 1893 p 4 Article
I'd never heard of Father Tucker until Gordon Boyington told me his life story which I have retold in my journal:
If I had not been asked for information about Ne Mourna at the Sisters near Sorrento, I would never have fluked discovering Father Tucker's details or the fact that his compassion dated from the earlier depression.
Biography - Horace Finn Tucker - Australian Dictionary of Biography
YET ANOTHER CONNECTION BETWEEN TULLAMARINE AND THE PENINSULA. When I was writing my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND (pages D 86-7) in about 1990, I had no idea where Jamieson's Survey was and I'd never heard of Henry Dunn.
Henry leased Jamieson's Special Survey (Safety Beach area, east to Bulldog Creek Rd) from 1846 to 1851 according to Colin McLear.Henry later received the grants in Moorooduc which led to the naming of Dunns Rd and "Four Winds" in Kangerong on the south corner of White Hill and McIlroys Rds at Red Hill. Edmund Dunn of Viewpoint at Tullamarine might have been Henry's brother.
As the 3000 plus pages of DHOTAMA are handwritten, I can't copy and paste but I'll transcribe the start of his biography on page 424 of VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS: PAST AND PRESENT. According to Edmond, he leased land on Jamieson's Survey for FIVE years before buying Viewpoint in 1849. The year of purchase could be right because the two grants comprising the farm were issued in 1843 and 1846 (one of the grantees being Andrew Baxter who was related to Ben Baxter of Carrup Carrup/ Mornington Junction/ Baxter according to a Baxter descendant.) The details of Edmund's native place, voyage and arrival might apply to Henry.
DUNN, Edmond, Broadmeadows, is a native of Devonshire, England who arrived on the WESTMINSTER in 1841 after a voyage of 100 days. He resided in the metropolis for a few years, working for other and doing a little farming on his own account, growing oats on a small patch of land on which Coburg now stands. After leasing some land on Jamieson's Survey for five years, in 1849 he purchased Viewpoint Farm at Brodmeadows and commenced growing wheat. The area of his farm is 325 acres and he also owns 3000 acres and leases 5000 acres on the Loddon. He was married in 1847 to Miss George, a native of Somersetshire, who came out on the same ship with him etc.
As expected, Valerie Wilson O.A.M., has written about Henry Dunn on her excellent Mornington Cemetery pioneers website.
The Dunn Family
Henry Dunn was born in 1808, the son of Charles and Thomasina (Hooper) Dunn.
He was a farmer and grazier, and a very early pioneer of the Mornington area.
From 1846 until 1851 he leased the land known as Jamieson’s Special Survey at Safety Beach, south of Mt Martha.
William Dunn was born to Henry and his wife Catherine in Moorooduc, in 1865.
Henry Dunn died in 1891 and he and Catherine are buried in the Mornington cemetery.
Oak Hill, Mornington – Tyabb Rd.
It is believed they are in the same grave as their son and his wife, but the headstone only acknowledges the presence of William Henry and wife, Betsy.
William Dunn purchased the property known as Park Hill in 1890, to run as a pastoral lease.
The property stretched from Mornington-Tyabb Road along Dunns Rd, to Bentons Rd, to Moorooduc Highway, and passed through three generations before being subdivided.
The homestead built on the property by William in 1892, is now the Oak Hill Gallery.
This is on part of the property which became the Mornington Peninsula Shire Civic Reserve in 1999.
William Dunn married Betsy Harrap in 1894, and together with his son Howard, later ran a dairy and a milk run from the property. The Dairy run was sold to James Sawyer in 1920.
William was also the local Pound Keeper.
William died in 1934 and Betsy in 1943.
Henry Dunn's biography was not in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS. It is significant that the Harraps had lived a few miles north of Tullamarine before moving to Mornington. The source for this is Neil Hamilton Mansfield's 700+ page THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY. As Harrap is not in the index, it will take many hours to find the reference. Henry Harrap's wife (nee Bennett, I believe) was born at Kilmore and buried at the Keilor Cemetery. In a roundabout way, she was related to me.
Edmond Dunn died in 1891, the same year as Henry.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 22 May 1891 p 1)
In 1868 the Melbourne Hunt whose master was Samuel Waldock caused much destruction as they rode through Viewpoint and Edmond's testimony at the trial in which he sued Waldock for damages shows that he retained links with the peninsula.
"Edmund Dunn, who stated,-I am a farmer at Tullamarine, in the neighbourhood of Broadmeadows." (He described the damage.)
"Cross-examined by Mr. FELLOWS.-I paid 6s. each for the sheep.
Mr. FELLOWS.-They were scabby, were they not?
Witness.-They were not. I bought them at Cape Schanck, from Mr. Anderson. I don't know why they were so cheap. I got them at 6s., because I suppose Anderson could not get more. They never had scab, and were never treated for it." (http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5831477…|||l-state=Victoria|||l-year=1868)
Edmund's brave stand against the prominent gentlemen of the Melbourne Hunt led to the formation of an organisation with a strange name but plenty of clout.
PAGE 3, ARGUS,4-8-1869.
The FENCE, HELD, and CHATTEL PRESERVATION LEAGUE.
A genealogical website indicates that Henry arrived on the same ship as Edmond (http://australiansurnamesgroup.yuku.com/topic/3696…)
her arrival in victoria in 1841 on ship Westminster - assisted immigrants victoria PROV
DUNN EDMUND 22 JUL 1841 WESTMINSTER 1 60
DUNN ELIZABETH 26 JUL 1841 WESTMINSTER 1 62
DUNN HENRY 28 JUL 1841 WESTMINSTER 1 56
DUNN MARY 38 JUL 1841 WESTMINSTER 1 56
Another genealogy website stated:
An Elizabeth and Edmund DUNN (brother and sister) arrive in Victoria 30 July 1841 aboard the WESTMINSTER Elizabeth aged 26 a housemaid living with her brother, Edmund aged 22 a lab. Both were protestants who could read and write. Also aboard the ship were a couple Henry 28 and Mary 38 also from Devon - can't say if they were connected as they are all listed separately. Edmund was to go to work for Dr THOMPSON. Henry was not engaged. (He was protestant who could read and write also)
It seems Henry died in Sn Point, Vic 1891 #17893 aged 83 parents Charles DUNN and Thomasina HOOPER (so born about 1808)
I checked and now I have found
Edmund DUNN baptised 17 Oct 1819 Sampford Courtney parents Charles and Thomasin (farmer) making Thomasin 48.
Henry and Edmund had the same parents, so I guess that made them brothers!
LAW REPORT. - SUPREME COURT. SITTINGS IN EQUITY. NEW COURT-HOUSE.—MONDAY, Nov. 2. (Before His Honour Mr. Justice Molesworth.) COLLINS V. ROB[?]INS. - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 4 Nov 1868
I often go exploring on trove while sipping a coffee if I'm not in the middle of a particular line of research. Entering Dunn, Mornington, I stumbled on the death of Henry Dunn's wife* and realised that I'd provided very little detail about Henry and Edmund's wives and children.
HENRY DUNN'S FAMILY.
*Death has again suddenly visited this locality, the deceased on this sad occasion being Mrs. Dunn, wife of Mr. Henry Dunn, of Park Hill, who was found dead in bed on Thursday morning last, having expired during sleep. She retired to rest the previous night. in her apparently usual health, and with several lady friends drove into the Point and made several calls only the previous afternoon. The cause of death is attributed to heart disease. Deceased, who was highly respected, was interred in the local cemetery on Saturday last, the cortege being a very large one. (P.2, South Bourke and Mornington Journal, 24-10-1888.)
Val Wilson stated (above) that William Dunn was born to Henry and Catherine in 1865 and that Henry died in 1891.
It appears from William's birth record that Catherine had been married previously and that her maiden name was Peters BUT her maiden name was Peters and Hallett was her MOTHER'S maiden name, according to Catherine's death record. Henry and Catherine were married in 1864.
EventMarriage Event registration number981 Registration year1864
Family nameDUNN Given namesHenry SexMale Spouse's family namePETERS Spouse's given namesCatherine Hollett (sic)
CATHERINE'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number15888 Registration year1888
Family nameDUNN Given namesCatherine Hallett SexUnknown Father's namePeters William Mother's nameBetty (Hallett) Place of birth Place of deathPARK HILL Age66 Spouse's family nameDUNN Spouse's given namesHenry
HENRY'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number17893 Registration year1891
Family nameDUNN Given namesHy SexMale Father's nameChas Mother's nameThomasin (Hooper) Place of birth Place of deathSn Point Age83
Edmund's biography stated that he was a native of Devonshire and Henry's death notice seems to confirm that Henry was too. I wonder if other members of the Dunn family had settled in South Australia.
DUNNN-on the 16th October, at his residence, Park Hill, Mornington, after a short illness, Henry Dunn, aged
83. Deeply regretted. A colonist of 50 years South Australian and Devonshire (England) papers please copy.
(P.1, The Age, 19-10-1891.)
EventBirth Event registration number11666 Registration year1865
Family nameDUNN Given namesWilliam Henry SexUnknown Father's nameHenry Mother's nameCatherine Hallett (Peters) Place of birthMOOR (Parish of Moorooduc.)
No other children born to Henry and Catherine were found up to 1885.
This is the death record of William Henry's wife, Betsy, who died in 1943 according to Val Wilson.
EventDeath Event registration number20439 Registration year1943
Family nameDUNN Given namesBetsy Maria SexFemale Father's nameHARRAP Henry James Mother's nameSarah (Bennett) Place of birthMORNINGTON Place of deathMORNINGTON Age75
WILLIAM HENRY'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number18772 Registration year1934
Family nameDUNN Given namesWilliam Henry SexMale Father's nameDUNN Henry Mother's nameCath Holliet (Peters) Place of birth Place of deathMORNINGTON Age69
WILLIAM HENRY'S DEATH NOTICE.
DUNN.—On the 26th November, at his residence, Park Hill, Mornington, William Henry, dearly beloved husband of Betsy Maria Dunn(nee Harrap), loving father of Howard, Dagmar (deceased), Lynette (Mrs. Brown), and Henry, loving grandfather of Joan, Kevin, and Lynette, aged 69 years.(P.1, Argus, 28-11-1934.)
EDMUND DUNN'S FAMILY.
Edmund's biography in Victoria and Its Metropolis: Past and Present (above) stated that Edmund had married Miss George.Her given name was Maria.
Edmund and Maria were married in 1847.
EventMarriage Event registration number17B Registration year1847
Family nameDUNN Given namesEdmund SexMale Spouse's family nameGEORGE Spouse's given namesMaria
EDMUND'S DEATH RECORD. (Edmund died in the same year as Henry.)
EventDeath Event registration number6010 Registration year1891
Family nameDUNN Given namesEdmund SexMale Father's nameUnknown Mother's name Place of birth Place of deathEsdon Age66
EventBirth Event registration number6124 Registration year1855
Family nameDUNN Given namesEmma SexUnknown Father's nameEdmund Mother's nameMaria (George) Place of birthM.PONDS
(Moonee Ponds meant anywhere the Moonee Ponds Creek and as Henry had purchased Viewpoint in 1849, that was probably the birthplace.)
EventBirth Event registration number8887 Registration year1857
Family nameDUNN Given namesHenry Edmund SexUnknown Father's nameEdmund Mother's nameMaria (George) Place of birthM.PONDS
EventBirth Event registration number18596 Registration year1859
Family nameDUNN Given namesMaria SexUnknown Father's nameEdmund Mother's nameMaria (George) Place of birthM PONDS
EventBirth Event registration number3777 Registration year1862
Family nameDUNN Given namesSamuel SexUnknown Father's nameEdmund Mother's nameMaria (George) Place of birthTULL
EventBirth Event registration number16477 Registration year1864
Family nameDUNN Given namesAlfred Alexander SexUnknown Father's nameEdmond Mother's nameMaria (George) Place of birthTULL
EventBirth Event registration number6808 Registration year1867
Family nameDUNN Given namesCharles Edwin Hooper SexUnknown Father's nameEdmund Mother's nameMaria (George) Place of birthBROADMEADO
Having been unable to insert new information into the existing journal or break this journal into parts (pre 1900 etc.), I decided to copy the existing journal into a word document. This is now (12-4-2017) up to the end of stage 1 and consists of 379 pages. In the word document, the surnames index is placed at the start so that burial entries can be located quickly for anyone requesting information regarding a particular surname.
In stage 1, I have examined all 2000* results for DROMANA CEMETERY, (limited to Victoria)on trove. Not all results concerned burials at Dromana but some burials would have been missed by searching for "DROMANA CEMETERY" for which there were only 855 results.
*There are well over 8000 results but trove only shows 2000. As it would be far too time-consuming to search for any burials that might have been missed, I will move to stage 2.
Stage 2 will involve those on the ozgen list for Dromana Cemetery, for whom there is no burial entry yet, buried before the mid 1950's and those with known connections to pioneering families. Hopefully some genealogical and biographical detail can be provided for each of these.
CURRENT (at 12-4-2017) ALPHABETICAL SURNAME INDEX.
ADAMS 1-4-1937, 1-11-1946; AUST 1970, 1979; ARKWELL 6-8-1951; BAKER 23-11-1938; BALDRY 5+-10-1932, 29-2-1936; BARKER 17-1-1948; BARNETT Late April, 1884; BARTHOLOMEW 25-7-1956, 1966; BENSON 7/8-4-1931, 2+-6-1934; BERTUCH 14-9-1953; BEST 8-8-1950; BIRCH 11-6-1953; BRADY 11-10-1887; 13-1-1888, 1891; BLACKER 6-2-1952; BLAKELEY 14-5-1949; BOAG 18+-8-1903, 27-5-1926; BOLDEN 12-12-1932; BOWRING 21+-8-1908; BRADY 29-10-1953; BREAR 16-7-1936, 19-1-1948; BROWN 15-3-1947, 23-6-1956; BRYAN Mid July 1907; BUCHER 17-5-1928, (4?-7-1930-extensive genealogy re Henry and Ann’s offspring), 4-6-1943; 3-7-1944; BUCIRDE 28-2-1938; BURCHETT Late March 1945; BURNHAM 4-4-1919, 11-4-1951, 12-6-1951; BURRELL 24-5-1892, 27+-11-1906, 11+-4-1910, 30-3-1953; BUSH 24-7-1946; CAIRNS 27-7-1922, 21-5-1927, 23-3-1935,1-8-1937, 4-8-1937, 29-12-1943; CARRIGG 15-1-1941, 27-10-1944, 29-12-1944; CHADWICK 14-1-1943, 21-9-1956; CHAPMAN 3+-2-1898, 24-6-1940, 26-6-1940, 4-4-1947, 7-7-1950, 7-3-1953, 28-6-1956; CLARK 27-9-1937; CLAPHAM 28-2-1952; CLARKE 25-1-1924; CLYDESDALE 4+8-1910, 27?-7-1927, 18?-7-1946, Mid Dec. 1937; COATES (17+)-1-1905; COBURN 8-12-1942, 11-9-1951; CONNELL Mid July, 1907; CONNELLY 10-6-1948; COOPER 23-1-1937; COPP 3+-4-1926, 19+-6-1941; CORNELL 8+-11-1897, 30-3-1953; CORNISH 31-3-1947; COUNSEL 18-6-1934, 24-10-1947; COWLISHAW (2nd Mrs H.W.Crichton 9+-4-1940), CRICHTON 21-1-1885, 12+-1-1926, 26-4-1934, 9+-4-1940, 18-2-1942; CRISTALL / CRYSTALL 28-6-1956; CROMWELL 30-4-1906; CUSSONS 14-5-1949; DAVIDSON 28?-7-1956; DAVIS (Janie 14+-10-1900?), 29-6-1953; DELAMORE 19+-7-1932; DEWAR 27-10-1944; DITTERICH 21-3-1947, 31-12-1956: DOWLING 11-10-1927; DUNHAM 19-1-1931; DYSON 16?-3-1908, 27?-9-1927, 22-10-1936, Mid Dec. 1937, 18-8-1943, 28-7-1944, (13+-12-1945?); EDWARDS 28?-7-1956; EVANS 23-10-1941, 31-3-1947; FAIRWEATHER 4-11-1922; FARRANT 21-4-1954; FARRELL 9-11-1938; FIELD 11-11-1917; FISHER 5-3-1951; FOX 8+-3-1909?, (6+)-9-1939; GADDES 24-9-1934; GADDES-BROWN 15-3-1947; GADSBY 10-11-1945; GAMBLE 16-7-1936; GEORGE 4-7-1906; GIBSON 23-9-1900, 1+-6-1901, 11-10-1911, 5+-12-1916, 23-1-1937, 26-6-1940, 22-8-1942, 23-2-1944, 4-4-1947, 27-5-1949; GRACE 23-1-1937; GRAY 12-11-1946, 4+-10-1951; GRIFFITH 11-10-1927, 24-7-1936; HADDOW 4-8-1937; HALDAN 16-11-1876; HARMER 6-12-1913 (not 1918); HAZLEDINE 13+11-1916, 11+-2-1934, 24-8-1935; HELYAR 30-3-1953; HENDERSON 16-11-1876; 20-1-1875, mid Jan., 1905, 28-7-1944; HENNESSY Rev. 2-8-1935; HIGGENS 13-5-1944; HIGGINS 15-1-1929; HILLIS mid Sept., 1895, 15-10-1900, 15-1-1935; HIPWELL (RONNIE'S ASHES (11+)-11-1956); HITCHINER 1970; HOLDEN 21?-8-1934; HOLLAND 16-7-1936; 19-1-1948 ; HOLMES 11-11-1917; HUDD 12-4-1952; INGLEFINGER 23-5-1940; JAMES (24?)-1-1907, 8-11-1921, 5-5-1941; JAMIESON 29/30-6-1888, 19-9-1919; (21+)-3-1893; JINNETTE 3-5-1944; JOHNSON 23-11-1929; JORDAN 27-4-1919, 22-4-1932, 12-4-1956; JOYES 23-10-1905; KEMP 6-3-1956; KIDGELL 29-8-1939, 29-2- 1940; KNIGHT 22-9-1952; LACCO 7-8-1934; LAWRENCE 24-5-1892 (Mornington Disaster); LINDSAY 29-7-1950; LOVELL 1-5-1954; McILROY 15-1-1935, 22-9-1926, 8-5-1937, 4-4-1942; McKEOWN (10+-3-1920, James, no death notice yet.); 7+-3-1928; 30-7-1930, 12-3-1932, 26-10-1932, 10-12-1936, 16-9-1945, 17-1-1950, 18-12-1950, 30-5-1953; McLEAR 16+-6-1918, 23-1-1937, 28-3-1950, 24-7-1950,(Salena (7+)-6-1966); 1970; MARTIN 18-2-1943; MATTHEWS 10-12-1943, 26-9-1945; MILLER (Flinders) 9-7-1956; MOAT 17+-12-1898, (8+)-3-1904, 25-1-1908, 11-6-1939, 6-7-1941; MORLET end Jan 1890; MURPHY 6?-3-1899, 28-5-1911; MYRING 12-4-1956; NASH May/June 1908,husband Frederick on 17-9-1940 (not 1910), daughter Frances Elizabeth on 28?-7-1956; NICHOL 23-11-1953; NICHOLS 3-7-1944; O'MALLEY 26-4-1949; PATTERSON 4-6-1943,(31-3-1947?) 8-8-1949; PAYNE 3-3-1950; PEATEY 24-7-1945, 16-1-1946, 24-10-1950, 22-8-1952, 19-6-1981; PEEBLES 23-11-1929; PERCIVAL 21-8-1940; PICKING 3-3-1950; PROSSER 24-7-1936; PURDIE 11-10-1911; PURVES 7-11-1913; RENOUF 24-7-1936; RICE 25/6-1-1933, 29-3-1937; ROBERTS mid Sept., 1895, 5-5-1941, 29-10-1953; ROSS 17-7-1915; RUDDUCK (17+)1-1905, 23-5-1930, 10-1-1935, (memorial only 1956); SAWYER 24-7-1936; SAXTON 13-8-1948; SELF 25-8-1937; SHAND (Mrs H.W.Crichton 9+-4-1940); SHAW 6-9-1905, 24-3-1912, 26-10-1932, 16-9-1945; SHEEHAN 6?-5-1945, 16-4-1956; SIMPSON 9-7-1956; SINCLAIR 23-8-1892;SINGLETON 22-10-1936, 28-7-1944, 27-11-1945; SMITH 20-5-1930; SPENCER 3-7-1935; STANLEY 11-10-1927; SUMBLER 9-1-1948; SYMONDS 27-7-1922; TALBOT 2+-5-1943; TAYLOR 31-5-1895, (21+)-4-1935, 13-2-1950; THORNTON 2-1-1952; TINKLER 19+-4-1917; TOMLINS 2-7-1937; TOWNSEND 23+-3-1904, (3-2-1936 contains all Townsend genealogy and biography found so far); TUCK 11-10-1927; TUDOR, 4-6-1946; TWISS 11-6-1948, 13-1-1951; TWYCROSS 14-12-1936, 26-11-1954; VINE 26-10-1932; WALTERS 5-9-1949; WAPLES May/June 1908; WARREN 26+-10-1919, 26-4-1948; WEBB 24+-8-1934, 18-10-1936); WELLING 30-4-1906; WHEELER 30-7-1948; WHITAKER 3-11-1947, 11-2-1948; WHITE 8-11-1921, 4?-7-1930, 20-12-1937, 5-5-1941, 28-1-1947, 3-11-1955; WILSHER 25-7-1956; WILSON 24-1-1919, (G.G. 18+-10-1933 right, 18+10-1934 wrong!), (nee McLEAR 17+-2-1936), Late Sept. 1945, 4-8-1948; WILSON (James, descendant of Sarah Wilson) 28-7-1954; WISEMAN 10+/12/1921, 5+/10/1923 , 10+-8-1942, etc.; WYSE 3-3-1939, 26-9-1945; WOOD (mother of Cr.F.E.Wood 24-12-1947); WRIGHT Late March 1945; YOUNG 10-12-1943, 17+-7-1944, 26-9-1945;
As burial entries, except for those already in the journal, will not be available on family tree circles, send me (itellya)a private message detailing the surname for which you'd like the burial entries) and you'll have these within days. When I have completed the journal, or done as much as I'm humanly able to do, I will provide the file to the Dromana and District Historical Society and any computer literate member should be able to supply the burial entries. As most burial entries contain death and funeral notices, you should be able to work out which ones concern your family. Some entries contain information supplied by members of the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook group and by joining this group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/251032988414470/) you will be able to send a private message to members who possess extensive information not given by me.
Many of those for whom entries are written are not listed in www.ozgenonline.com/~vic_cem/dromana/dromanaaf_data.htm
and I have not written entries for many of those who are in the ozgen list because my focus was on writing about pioneers, their descendants (when known or discovered), long-time early residents and slightly later residents whose contribution to the district could be demonstrated.
The group's Facebook page features old maps, newspaper articles, aerial photos, and photos of places such as the R.A.N.depot at Somerton, the water tower at the Greenvale Sanitorium etc.
If your family is known to have been involved in the area along Sydney and Mickleham Rds between Somerton Rd and Wallan, it's a fair bet that you'll find something about them in the body's publications on the internet. Say, for example, you've seen mention of your family member being at Kinlochewe, the only detail of this place in BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY being that there was a toll gate there. In the group's articles you'll find that the origin of the name was that Mt. Ridley, a landmark for those travelling west across the Merri Creek, was originally called Kinloch Hill. You'll read of the tragedy of Captain Pearson's first marriage, his second marriage to a Godfrey girl (Frederick Race Godfrey's cousin) and his renaming of Kinloch Hill as Mount Ridley because of a topographical feature near the Godfrey estate in the old country.
Here are the families mentioned on the Facebook page.
1900'S: BOYD, CASSON, WARBURTON, SORRAGHAM, EDWARDS, MAHONEY,KERNAN, SIMMIE, WILLIAMS,HARVEY, COLLINS, FERGUSON,
HOWAT, McCALLUM, ANDERSON, POOLE, WALLBRIDGE, WILSON,BROOKER, GRAY, REVELL,
1800'S: PEARSON, GODFREY, McKENZIE, CROWE, JOHNSTON, CRINNION, BRODIE, DYSON-HOLLAND,KELLY (Ned), PARNELL,
The many articles are extensively researched, contain fantastic genealogical information and photos and are very easy to read. The list of articles can be found with a http://www.chig.asn.au/Photogallery.htm search.
Some of the pioneers are not the subject of an article but can be found by searching for a surname/ place,and the name of the group: e.g.1. SINCLAIR, CRAIGIEBURN HISTORICAL INTEREST GROUP.
RESULT: Mother Teresa School - Mt Ridley - Olrig Homestead
Olrig is of local historical significance for its association with James Malcolm, ... Malcolm was an associate of John Sinclair, of the Port Phillip Association ... the Craigieburn Historical Interest Group's website http://www.chig.asn.au/Olrig.htm ...
e.g.2. donnybrook, craigieburn historical interest group
RESULT: Fellows of Oakland Mickleham - WikiNorthia
Jul 27, 2014 - The Fellows' family grave is at the Donnybrook Cemetery. ...  Craigieburn Historical Interest Group, 'A list of Mickleham land owners in 1863”, ...
Sometimes the group's articles are published under its abbreviation: CHIG,such as the following one. I'd never seen any mention of the train being delayed by crashing through the gates at Craigieburn. If it hadn't the Kelly gang would not have been defeated. http://www.chig.asn.au/ned_kelly's_page.htm
FROM AN EMAIL TO VALERIE WILSON O.A.M.
Just in case a Yewers descendant asks what you know about John Yewers at (the original) Donnybrook, renamed as Kalkallo Township after a new Donnybrook sprang up near the north eastern railway in about 1872. Donnybrook Rd was the southern boundary of Kalkallo Township (a 1954 map of which is available online.)
EXTRACT FROM MY JOURNAL:
John Yewers was granted crown allotment 5 Moorooduc, consisting of 159 acres 3 roods and 9 perches. It was between Sunnyside Rd and Manmangur Creek (the eastern boundary of the Mornington Golf Club.) This property became known as "Sunnyside".
It is uncertain at the moment whether John had much to do with crown allotment 5. His purchase may have been for speculative purposes like the house blocks he bought at Donnybrook in 1855. His hotel would have kept him busy.
December 25th, on board the Yarra Yarra steamer, on her passage to Launceston, Emily Hayson Yewers, youngest daughter of Mr. John Yewers, late of the Albion Hotel, Bourke street.(P.4, Argus, 5-1-1853.)
Was Henry's presence at Somerville in 1859 linked with John's application for a licence for the Yewers' Family Hotel being refused? (P.6, Argus, 2-3-1859.)
Not deterred, John was running the bridge Hotel at Echuca in 1865 when he became insolvent.
(P.6, Argus, 6-2-1865.)
John was not the father of Henry, so they might have been brothers.
On page 17 of THE BUTCHER THE BAKER THE, Bruce Bennett provides the following information about the Yewers family.
Henry Yewers was among the first subscribers to the Somerville school in 1859. Henry had a butcher's shop in Main St, Mornington by 1869.In about 1873, Robert Lawson Yewers was a butcher at Mornington while Henry at Somerville and Alf at Yarraville carried on the same trade. Robert also owned the Somerville shop and had slaughteryards and land at** Moorooduc.
* Probably on c/a 5. Bruce several times failed to distinguish between the parish of Moorooduc and the locality of Moorooduc (based on Jones Corner.)
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Wednesday 13 March 1878 p 1 Family Notices
... YEWERS-GROVER.-On the 7th inst, at the residence of the bride's parents, by the Rev Jas Caldwell, Robert Lawson Yewers, of Footscray, to Mary Ann, second daughter of Mr W Grover, of Mornington ...
(William Grover was a builder and built Beleura for James Butchart.)
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Saturday 23 March 1878 p 1 Family Notices
... months. YEWERS.-On the 22nd inst, at his son's residence, Nicholson-street, Footscray, Henry Hayson Yewers, late of Mornington, in the 69th year of his age. ... 422 words
MORNINGTON. - Councillors Jones* and Yewers were proposed, and the voting being equal, the decision by lot fell to Councillor Henry Yewers. (P.10,Argus, 19-11-1874.) Henry became the Shire President.
*Cr Jones was probably Alfred Jones of the Almond Bush Stud at Somerville,English-born but resident in Canada from the age of about 10, and one of the three Canadians who gave Canadian Bay its name.
WHICH JOHN YEWERS?
Publican, confectioner, government geologist? The geologist best shows a connection with Mornington and Donnybrook, having found gold near the Plenty in 1851 and coal near Schnapper Point in 1856, (the year after OUR John was granted his land nearby. Were they all the same man? The one who married Emily and whose daughter, Ada, married Fred Thiele was John Haysom Yewers.
John Haysom Yewers
Born in Hampshire, England on 24 Mar 1816 to Henry Haysom and Elizabeth Emm. John Haysom married Emily Moss and had 9 children. He passed away on 26 Jul 1879 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Parents: Henry Haysom 1781-1827 Elizabeth Emm 1789-1867
Spouse(s) Emily Moss 1822-1895
Henry Edward Yewers 1851-1886 Mary Elizabeth Yewers 1845-1917 Amelia Yewers 1848-1885 Alfred Haysom Yewers 1849-1934
Makalia Haysom Yewers 1849-1951 Emily Haydon Yewers 1852-1853 John Haysom Yewers 1854-1916* Ada Haysom Yewers 1857-1942 Harriet Yewers 1859-1892
Another connection between John Yewers' family and the peninsula was his daughter, Ada's marriage to a member of one of Doncaster's earliest pioneers. Doncaster isn't on the peninsula but Charles Thiele, one of the pioneers of the Red Hill Village Settlement, was killed on the Eaton's Cutting road between Red Hill and Dromana in the early 1900's and about 50 years later one of the family still living at Doncaster tempted fate by falling off a ladder at his holiday home at (Rosebud?)
THIELE—YEWERS - On the 20th June, ot St. Jude's Church, Carlton, by the Rev. Julius Lewis, Ambrose Frederick, third son of John Gottlieb Thiele, of Doncaster, to Ada, third daughter of the late John Yewers, late or Carlton. No. cards. (P.42, Leader, 3-8-1889.)
This marriage notice helped me to fill the gaps in the death notice of Ada's mother.
(YEWE)RS.-0n the 11th October, at the residence of her (daughte)r, (Ada*), Mrs F. Thiele, Doncaster, Emily Yewers (relict of) the late John Yewers, in her 73rd year. Interred (1)3 th. inst..(*Marriage notice , Leader, 19-10-1895.) Leader (Melbourne, Vic. : 1862 - 1918) Saturday 19 October 1895 p 35 Family Notices
The notice of 15-10-1895 on P. 1 of the Argus is almost identical .
YEWERS.—On the 11th inst., at the residence of her son-in-law (Mr. Fred. Thiele), at Doncaster, Emily, relict of the late John Yewers, in her 73rd year. A colonist of 48 years' duration. Interment on 13th
The following shows that John Haysom Yewers was the peninsula pioneer. Henry Haysom Yewers was obviously his brother. Robert Lawson Yewers' death at Footscray in 1914 meshes with Bruce Bennett's statement that the family later moved to Footscray.
Henry Haysom Yewers
Born in Hampshire, England on 1814 to Henry Haysom and Elizabeth Emm. Henry Haysom married Mary Lawson and had 8 children. He passed away on 1878.
Parents: Henry Haysom 1781-1827 Elizabeth Emm 1789-1867
Spouse(s) Mary Lawson 1818-1883
Children: Robert Lawson Yewers 1839-1914 John Henry Yewers
1842-1898 Walter Alfred Yewers 1844-1934 Hannah Amelia Yewers 1845-1914 Kate Ellen Yewers 1850-1934 Mary Jane Yewers 1852-1914 Otto William Yewers 1854-1854 George Thomas Yewers 1855-1921
YEWERS.— On tho 26th July, at Melbourne, John Haysom Yewers, a colonist of thirty-six years' duration, in .the sixty-fourth year of his age. (P.142, Illustrated Australian News, 30-8-1879.)
*The above was one of only two results on trove for John Haysom Yewers. Both were family notices although I did not impose this limit. Let's try J.H.Yewers. All results concerned the butcher in the second (and later) death notice, who was the son of the colonist of 36 years. The son was on the staff of the Lands Department in 1912 and is pictured with his colleagues. Perhaps the father was a government employee too!
OFFICERS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF CROWN LANDS AND SURVEY.
Punch (Melbourne, Vic. : 1900 - 1918; 1925) Thursday 27 June 1912 p 21 Detailed Lists, Results, Guides Illustrated
WAS JOHN HAYSOM YEWERS THE GOVERNMENT GEOLOGIST WHO DISCOVERED COAL NEAR SCHNAPPER POINT IN 1856 AND DID HE FIND IT ON C/A 5, MOOROODUC, THE FUTURE SUNNYSIDE?
I measured the distance along the highway from Main Street to Sunnyside Rd. It was exactly 16 cm. On Melway maps 3+, each mm. represents one chain (and 160 chains is exactly TWO MILES.)
The discovery of coal at Snapper Point,
which we lately noticed, has now been
confirmed. Last week Mr. Norton, from
•Melbourne, visited "the place, in one of his
small steamers, accompanied by a party
of gentlemen from Melbourne, and about
TWO MILES north of the point, they found
Mr. Yewers and half a dozen men busy
excavating a soft clay shale that " cropped
out" behind the granite so common in that
part. The coal was in thin irregular laminae
from a film to an inch in thickness.
The seams were irregular in thickness, and
not in one continuous bed; but the coal
looked pure, and was said to burn well.
(P.1, Gippsland Guardian, 22-8-1856.)
WHAT A STORY THIS HAS TURNED OUT TO BE, ALL BECAUSE OF A HOUSE IN KALKALLO TOWNSHIP.
The following confirms that John Haysom Yewers (or should we say John Haysom?) was the pioneer of Donnybrook (renamed Kalkallo). His namesake son was born there in 1854. He didn't keep c/a 5 Moorooduc for long.
FOR SALE, at Schnapper Point, that splendid FARM belonging to Mr. John Yewers, fronting the Bay, containing 100 acres fenced in, and 50 acres under cultivation, adjoining Mr. Cobb's farm, bounded by two Government roads 3 chains wide. Apply to Mr. John Yewers, Tennyson-street, St. Kilda. (P.8, Argus, 1-11-1858.)
Name: John HAYSOM
Given Name: John
Name: John YEWERS
Given Name: John
Birth: 24 Mar 1816 in Hampshire, England
Death: 26 Jul 1879 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 1
Change Date: 16 Jan 2013 at 09:13
John was convicted of house breaking and burglary in July 1834 and sentenced at Southampton to 14 years in Tasmania. It is not known why he added the name YEWERS but a genealogist on an online discussion re convicts said that it was not uncommon for convicts to do that especially before birth certificates came in - and not only convicts but others too.
John arrived on the "Waterloo" on 2nd March 1835 and was assigned to the wharves to work. His convict history makes very interesting reading including being on bread and water, in solitary and also at one stage hard labour in chains. So he was a very cheeky boy. Anyway he settled down and was given a ticket of leave in 1843. Shortly before this he had applied to be married which was granted and he married Emily Moss daughter of a convict, but herself free.
He left Tasmania and moved to Victoria and became a publican and obviously made money in the gold rush era as he went back to see the family in England and probably encouraged them all to emigrate. The "Mississippi" was mainly filled with Haysoms of one sort or another. He was also on the "Mississippi" passenger list with his son. (Source: D. McDonald & V. Maine)
Father: Henry HAYSOME c: 22 Jul 1781 in Burghclere, Hampshire, England
Mother: Elizabeth EMM b: Abt 1789 in Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Marriage 1 Emily MOSS b: Abt 1822
Married: 13 Mar 1843 in Hobart, Tasmania, Australia 2
Change Date: 12 Jan 2011
Has Children Henry Edward YEWERS b: 22 Dec 1843 in Hobartown, Tasmania, Australia
Has Children Mary Elizabeth Haysom YEWERS b: 29 Sep 1845 in Hobartown, Tasmania, Australia
Has Children Amelia Haysom YEWERS b: 1848 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Has Children Alfred Haysom YEWERS b: 1849 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Has No Children Makalia Haysom YEWERS b: 1849 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Has No Children Emily Haysom YEWERS b: 25 Dec 1852 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Has Children John Haysom YEWERS b: 1854 in Merri Creek, Victoria, Australia !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has Children Ada Haysom YEWERS b: 1857 in Collingwood, Victoria, Australia
Has No Children Harriet YEWERS b: 1859 in St Kilda, Victoria, Australia
Has No Children YEWERS b: 1859 in St Kilda, Victoria, Australia
Abbrev: BDM Victoria, Australia
Title: BDM Victoria
Page: 1879/ 8433
Abbrev: BDM Tasmania, Australia
Title: BDM Tasmania, Australia
Page: 383/ 1843 RGD 37