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"Not to know what happened before one was born is to remain a child." Cicero.

itellya wants everyone to have the opportunity to move out of childhood. My particular object is to encourage a love of PLACE such as Australia's first inhabitants had. It was so strong that they no longer wanted to produce offspring, or even live, when they were moved off their particular places to refuges, on Flinders Island for the Tasmanian aborigines and near Healesville for the remnants of the Wurundjeri and Boon-wurrung near Melbourne.

In my case,I spend much time at the beach at Rosebud, but if I was offered a free holiday on a Pacific island, it would seem like a gift from heaven.But if I was then prohibited from leaving the resort and snorkeling to see the colourful fish on the reef,my usual "way of life", I would feel just like those early aborigines. I'd soon return home and resume my traditional way of life but that was not an option for the first Australians.

I do have the love of PLACE and I want everybody to share it. When I visit a new place on holiday, such as Sale, one of my first things to do is to walk around it and find what makes it worthy of love. Every history board is read; the more I know about the place,the more I love it.At Rosebud,one thing I'd like to do is visit the museum and find out about the old days from long-time residents of the area at Rosebud Historical Society meetings.

Unfortunately there is neither a museum nor a historical society at Rosebud. There is a historical society and museum at Broadmeadows but maybe not for much longer if the bean counters at the City of Hume get their way.The local museum is important in enabling newcomers to appreciate and love their new place,by learning about its heritage. My journal WAKE UP AUSTRALIA shows that the Broadmeadows Historical Society was struggling back then and the city's plans for increased rental fees for the museum would surely make Elayne and Alan's small band of volunteers give up their dedication to preserve the area's history.

I received the following email today from Elayne.

Hello xxx,

Firstly, you have no idea whatsoever as to how much the Members, Member Volunteers, Volunteers appreciated your comments in the local paper this week. There was an enormous shout of joy when each read it.

Now - I received the email below* and wondered if you can throw some information on it. You can either answer them directly or send me the information and I will forward it on. I know I have read something of this somewhere, but trying to find it at the moment with the Hume City Council hanging over my head is not something I can do at the moment. I am trying to get everything prepared for next Wednesday.

The original meeting was to be held this Friday (March 6) but the Council came up with some small, belittling excuse to change it to the following Wednesday (March 11) - a date that was considered well out of reason when I suggested it. Funny how it was changed when Friday March 6 is the start of a long weekend.

Thanks again for your support.

Elayne Whatman
Hon. Secretary
Broadmedows Historical
Society Inc. and Museum

Ph: 03 9302 1456
Mob: 0487 371 543
From: Hine, Benjamin
Date: 3/03/2015 11:37:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Bennett, Rohan; Stojanovich, Natasha
Subject: Research on Mickleham Road Area [DLAP-AUMatters.FID591743]

Dear Elayne

I refer to your recent conversation with my colleague Emma Maguire.

As discussed, we are trying to obtain information about Mickleham Road in Mickleham. Specifically, we are looking for:

· Information about the:

o History of Mickleham Road, including its date of construction / historical uses.

o Trees in Mickleham Road, Mickleham (in particular between Bardwell Drive and Donnybrook Road), including details of the planting of the trees in this area, and those in the Avenue of Honour.

· Copies of any historical maps, surveys or photos of the road / the trees in the area.

Can you please let us know if your library holds any information about the matters described above?

We look forward to speaking with you.

Kind regards

Benjamin Hine
Natasha Stojanovich
Senior Associate

I don't just write journals. This is what brought the shouts of joy.

SO HUME Council wants to treat volunteers as businesses and charge them for providing a free service to the community. (Volunteers to pay more”, Hume Leader, February 17).
Alan and Elayne Whatman and their small group of enthusiastic members of the Broadmeadows Historical Society must wonder why they bother!
If we’re going to be so businesslike, I’ll charge the council $10 for every time my history is quoted and donate the proceeds to the BHS to cover the extra charges.
If the historical society lost council equipment, one would expect the council to demand compensation.
If an item was irreplaceable, the compensation demanded would be huge.
On the same basis, I could claim compensation for the many items provided to me by descendants of pioneers, the Federal Airports Corporation airport acquisitions map etc, that I donated to the Hume Library Service.

The letter to the Hume Leader left out my calculations of how much my charges for quotes and compensation would be and that when the proceeds were donated to the society it would be able to pay council's outrageous fees for many years to come.

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The nearest swamp to Melbourne was the West Melbourne Swamp and it was a great nuisance causing a huge detour for those wishing to reach the areas to the west of the infant settlement. They had to travel along Macedon road (Mt Alexander Rd) to Braybrook Rd (Buckley St, Essendon)and then,reaching the end of that track, follow a track which led to the present end of Rhonda St where in 1803 an aboriginal fish trap stopped Charles Grimes' progress upstream by boat. This was the original Solomon's Ford,used by settlers such as George Russell of Golf Hill and John Aitken of Mt Aitken,west of Sunbury.

Aitken bought section 8, Doutta Galla, between today's Cannes Avenue and Beatrice Avenue, as a depot where he could rest his stock before taking them to market in Melbourne. When a more direct route became available, this block was leased to such as Robert McDougall,formerly of Cona, Glenroy and later Arundel,Tullamarine.

Eventually the West Melbourne swamp was drained but Dynon Rd was known for many years thereafter as Swamp Road.

Moving towards the Mornington Peninsula, there was a huge swamp in the Carrum hinterland. Just as in the case of the Nile in Egypt,the soil was regularly inundated and top dressed with rich sediments, making the reclaimed swamp a renowned dairying area. James Young of Frankston fame was an early settler, as were the ancestors of Noel McMahen,the champion Melbourne footballer of the 1950's, and the Keys family which was related by marriage to the McMahens and the McMahons (whose hotel near the coast was on the same site and the forerunner of today's Riviera Hotel.)

The network of drains required to drain the run off from the Dandenong area that fed the swamp is best illustrated by the Lyndhurst parish map. (Google LYNDHURST, COUNTY OF MORNINGTON.) The humble Carrum Creek became the Patterson River taking much of the water that used to flow to the sea along Kananook Creek,making that stream the focus of numerous complaints about smell.

The Tootgarook Swamp,fed by run off from Arthurs Seat, stretched from Boneo to Port Phillip Bay where some of the water met breakers opposite the present hospital site. Ned Williams of "Eastbourne" dug the channel between today's Eastbourne Rd and the coast alongside which the Wong-Shing family established the market garden which gave Chinaman's Creek its name. The Crichtons of Glenlee had also made efforts to dispel water from the swamp, one member of the family occupying James Lovie's grants between Browns Rd and the southern part of the swamp.

The early pioneers' chief concern was making a living, ecology not even being on the shopping list. The limeburners cleared all the she-oaks and by disturbing the surface caused a huge ti tree and rabbit infestation in areas they had worked. The aboriginal fire farming had confined ti tree to the coastal fringe; a burn off at least every five years was required to stop the spread of ti tree and this had not been done.After the demand for lime slackened, Sullivan and Stenniken helped the locals, many former lime burners, make a crust by supplying Melbourne bakers with 2 foot 6 inch lengths of fiercely burning ti tree for their ovens.James Little Brown,after whom Browns Rd was named, reclaimed the devasted area in record time from about 1909.

Cameron Brown and his wife are modern-day pioneers, champions of the environment, which had been neglected for so many years. The Shire of Flinders' main concern had been to help ratepayers make a living so they could afford to pay their rates. The shire had so little money that all of Rosebud's public facilities were built on the precious foreshore, there being no such environmental safeguard as the Coastal Strategy which eventually stopped the construction of the Southern Peninsula Aquatic Centre there very recently. A swamp was seen as being of absolutely no value.

A majority of councillors wanted to financially destroy the Browns for having the audacity to oppose an illegally issued extension of a permit for St Elmos Close which intrudes into the Chinamans Creek Nature Reserve (Melway 169 H 6), but was forced to back down on their bid for court costs, denying that was ever their aim.

I'd never heard of the Balnarring wetlands and that's the reason I'm writing this journal, having just read a children's book about it called The Symphony.

The Balnarring Community Wetlands are about 65 km south of Melbourne.

They are reached from a turnoff at Civic Court at Balnarring Village on the Frankston-Flinders Rd.

15 years ago, parents, teachers and community members in Balnarring formed a sub-committee to develop and manage a wetlands site adjacent to the primary school. The Balbirooroo Community Wetlands Management Plan provides strategic direction for both the school and community in their on-going efforts to enhance and manage the wetlands.

Balbirooroo is a tribal language Koori name for Ibis.

Work at the wetlands has included construction and placement of nest boxes in trees, interpretive signage, and provision of habitat for fauna species, e.g. Growling Grass Frogs.

Regular school and community working bees at the wetlands continue the on-going and large scale revegetation efforts to enhance and develop the wetlands

I visited these beautiful Wetlands on Sunday September 27, 2009. My 3 km exploration included the Koorie Trail, the Ian Wisken Wetland Walk, and the Korra Bun-yan Wetland (Growling Grass Frog).

The Wetlands were originally inhabited by the Bunurong People.

The area is quite extensive, 12 hectares, and includes a large Lagoon, smaller lakes and ponds, intrepretative signs, boardwalks, footbridges, bird-hide, lookout, picnic tables, and viewing platforms.

Adjacent to the Wetlands is the old embankment of the disused Bittern-Red Hill Railway, which operated from 1921 until 1953.

For further details about the Wetlands, visit

The Symphony - Paul Dillon - Google Books
Rating: 5 - ‎1 review
Jun 13, 2014 - Wow, that story would make a great film" Yusuf {Cat Stevens} ... This is the profound message of The Symphony by Paul Dillon, a charming ...
The Symphony
Front Cover
Paul Dillon
Serenity Press, 13 Jun 2014 - 118 pages

Each day and night a magical musical symphony is performed under the stars, the sun, and the moon. Each of the animals in the Balbirooroo wetland has a different voice and sound to make in their mysterious orchestra. Every day Sticky Webster, the symphony conductor, weave's a spider's web for each animal in her old gum tree. In the morning the sparkling dew drops settle on each web, and they become the musical notes that each animal is to sing in their part of the symphony. But...... the symphony is suddenly silenced when the oldest frog in the wetland The Balbirooroo Guru informs all the creatures that their water has been poisoned and all of the Pobblebonk frogs have left. Can Five girls, a nosy blue dragonfly, a banjo playing cockatoo, and a young hero frog called Kobi save the Balbirooroo wetland and the symphony........... If not it could even reach you humans too!! '' Wow, that story would make a great film" Yusuf {Cat Stevens}

User Review
Reviewed by Emily-Jane Hills Orford for Readers' Favorite
Music is a metaphor for life and life exists only in harmony with all of nature. This is the profound message of The Symphony by Paul Dillon, a charming book that makes the wholeness of nature into a musical symphony, where all get along, sing along, play along well together, all in harmony. The book also educates the young reader about different living creatures that inhabit a wetland, which has a very delicate ecosystem, and it points out what happens when something careless happens or is done to the wetland, like dumping leftover paint into the water. It affects every living creature and it affects the musical harmony of nature's symphony.
Rose, Lily, Molly, Laila and Shanti are five young girls who value and care deeply for the wetland. They are the ones, the humans that is, who first notice that something is wrong with their precious wetland. When no adult will listen to their concerns, the girls set out on their own to solve the problem. And they do, experiencing countless adventures on their journey, just as the Pobblebonk frogs venture on their own journey to find a safe habitat. The girls' adventure, their attempt to save the wetland, is only taken seriously by the adults when they are missing overnight. When they are found, returning to the wetland with the rescued Pobblebonk frogs, the adults finally listen and share their concern. That is when the wetland's most notable symphony takes form and humans, children and adult, along with all of nature, join together to make beautiful music.
This is an excellent story about ecology and preserving our environment. Paul Dillon, the author, lives near the real Balbirooroo wetland, just outside of Melbourne, Australia, the wetland that makes the backdrop for this story. Combining a love of music with a love of nature, Paul has created a compelling story about the most beautiful music ever performed: the music of life all around us and, for Paul, the music of the wetland. Well done!

The only thing that has moved me as much as this book is DANCING WITH WOLVES. As a kid at Saturday arvo matinees,like all the others, I'd cheer the cowboys/cavalry and boo the injuns and although I'd developed a bit more tolerance, when I watched the said movie, I felt ashamed to be a paleface.

When Cameron Brown was waging his battle to protect the Tootgarook wetlands, I felt great sympathy for him but thought a frog or two didn't matter that much.Paul Dillon's book has certainly changed my tune (or should that be symphony.) Every school should have at least one copy in its library. What better way for children to learn to appreciate the environment and have a very enjoyable and humorous read at the same time.

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Charles Hollinshed had presented about a truckload of papers to the Victorian Historical Society and was selected by the Shire of Flinders to write its history:LIME LAND LEISURE. I had been researching Mornington Peninsula History for about a month or so when I read his book, rather made notes from it, and although I found a few boo boos, such as Ned Williams' biography appearing in the WHITE entry,I was quite prepared to accept everything in the book as Gospel. Boy, I was excited when I found out that the first Rye Hotel was in Dromana some time before 1859! The alarm bells tingled when Charles called William Cottier JAMES Cottier. The Kangerong parish map, which I had obtained from the Rye Historical Society,made it quite clear that William Cottier was the grantee of the land that became Walter Gibson's "Glenholm". It is doubtful that William Cottier's supposed hotel was on the foreshore (actually the Survey) opposite the Dromana Bush Nursing Hospital;it would more likely have been the squared-log core of the Glenholm homestead (bottom of 160 D5,under the freeway.) William had received the grants in 1857.

James (sic) Cottier (pronounced "Cutter")and his wife came to Dromana in 1850.They may have begun as tenants on the Survey but built on the foreshore where Dromana Hospital is now. James (sic) took up timber getting and presumably stayed in that trade because he is said to have had bullocks hauling piles from the back country when the Dromana pier was being built in the 1870's. However he or perhaps Mrs Cottier soon began to take in boarders.

SOME TIME BEFORE 1859 A LICENCE ISSUED AND THE COTTIER HOUSE BECAME THE RYE HOTEL. (Charles then mentioned Cottier's grants which became Walter Gibson's "Glenholme", sic, Glenholm.)

IN 1866,IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A MR. CAMPBELL, HE PUT UP A BUILDING SPECIFICALLY TO BE AN HOTEL,AND ON TRANSFER OF THE LICENCE,THIS BECAME THE RYE HOTEL. Eventually the new hotel deteriorated and Campbell, probably still in partnership with Cottier (unlikely,see below), built the White Cliffs Inn,presumably on a site next to Cliff House (which was) on the(east)corner of Napier St. THE COTTIERS WERE AMONG THE FIRST SETTLERS AT RYE AND IT IS SAID THAT THEY WERE THE FIRST TO USE THAT NAME INSTEAD OF TOOTGAROOK.

Pencilled in one of the four copies of LIME LAND LEISURE in the local history room at Rosebud library are the following comments written by somebody who was obviously a frustrated Cottier family historian.

Who is the William Cottier who married Margaret Owen and had two children born at Tootgarook, Emily in 1872 and Mary Jane in 1869. A William Cottier paid rates on 564 acres at Fingal in 1865. William leased land in Rye from W.A.Blair in 1874,1 acre 3 roomed house.

The following is copied from my HERITAGE WALK, DROMANA journal.

According to Colin's map, William Cottier's house on the Survey was near today's Balmoral Avenue. William signed the 1861 petition in support of Robert Quinan's school becoming Dromana's Common School (P.133 in Colin's book.) William Cottier (pronounced Cutter)received the grants for crown allotments 9 and 10 section 1, Kangerong and built the initial part of what became Walter Gibson's Glenholm homestead. C/a 9 is now the Dromana Industrial Estate and c/a 10 is the Monaco Estate including all Lombardy St house blocks.

What did surprise me is the following grant in the parish of Fingal, south of the Boniyong (Boneo) pre-emptive right.
Lot 32. One hundred and twenty two acres three roods five perches, 22/- per acre.William Cottier.
(P.5, Argus, 19-2-1858.)

In another journal I have warned family historians about taking lot numbers to be crown allotment numbers. William Cottier's Fingal grant was crown allotment 13 of 122 acres 3 roods and twenty five perches.It was a triangular block fronting the west side of Truemans Rd south of the St Andrews Golf Club's Gunnamatta Course, indicated by Melway 252 B10 and C 10-11.

When I added Kangerong as a search term, to avoid millions of shipping intelligence articles in the 1850's (Captain William Cottier), I discovered that William had bought his grants between Collins Rd and (inclusively) Lombardy St in early 1857. Lot 5 is c/a 9 and lot 6 is c/a 10 (both section 1 Kangerong.)

Parish of Kangerong, County of Mornington. Upset price £1 per acre.
Lot 5,151a. Sr. 8p, William Cottier, £1 per acre.
Lot 6,116a. 2r., William Cottier, £1 5s. do. (P.6,Argus,26-3-1857.)

LIME LAND LEISURE has much detail about Cottier and John Campbell (who also signed the 1861 petition in support of Robert Quinan.) Charles Hollinshed relied on the memory of elderly descendants and called Dromana's pioneer James Cottier. However he must have seen documents or articles to support his claim that Cottier established the RYE hotel at Dromana and that the licence was later transferred to Tootgarook where he and John Campbell (who built Rye's first pier in 1860) built the RYE HOTEL east of Napier St. (The present Rye Hotel is on the site of Patrick Sullivan's Gracefield Hotel, built about 15 years later, whose name came from the Dromana property that his father in law,William Grace, had sold in about 1871 before moving to Rye.)

Rye was known as Tootgarook, but as in the case of Rosebud, where people said that they were going to THE ROSEBUD,thirsty limeburners probably said ,"I'm going to THE RYE" and in each case THE was eventually deleted. Thus William Cottier is credited with giving Rye its name. So what's this?

FOUND, A quantity of SPARS. Owner can have a claim by applying to Mr. Cottier, Tootgarook Hotel, Tootgarook.
(P.1, Argus, 8-6-1869.)

LICENCE.-To the Bench of Magistrates. at
Mornington.-I, WILLIAM COTTIER, farmer, now
residing !nt Ryo, in tho colony of Victoria, do hereby
give netico that it is my intention to APPLY to the
justices, sitting at the Court of Petty Sessions to bo
holden at Mornington, In tho said colony, on tho 20th
day of Juno noxt.'for n CERTIFICATE authorising
the issuing of a PUBLICAN'S LICENCE for a house
situated at Rye aforesaid. The houso Is built of wood,
consisting of two slttlngrooms and six bedrooms ex-
clusivo of thoso required for tbo use of tho family ;
occupied and owned,by mo. It is not licensed. To
bo know n as tbo Tootgarook Hotel. i
Tho 14th'day of Juno, A.D. 1807. ,
- I ' (Signed) . WILLIAM COTTIER. (P.8 Argus, 21-6-1867.)

NOTICE.-The PARTNERSHIP hitherto subsisting
BELL, trading as " Wm. Cottier and Campbell," at
Tootgarook, has this day been DISSOLVED by
mutual consent.
All liabilities will be paid and all moneys received
by William Cottier.
Melbourne 18th April, 1870. (P.3, Argus, 14-4-1870.)

William Cottier, of Rye, near Point Nepean,
limeburner. Causes of insolvency-Long de-
pression of trade and losses in business.
Liabilities, £480 12s. 6d. ; assets, £30 ; de-
ficiency, £150 12s. 6d, Mr. Goodman, official
assignee. (P.5, Argus, 26-10-1870.)

A special examination was held in the
estate of William Cottier, of Rye, labourer,
late publican. The insolvent was brought in
custody from gaol, where he was imprisoned
on a charge of stealing meat, and was ex-
amined by Mr. F. Stephen in reference to his
transactions as a publican at Rye, and also
respecting, a lime-burning business that he
had been engaged in. (P.7, Argus,23-12-1870.)

Certificate Meetings.
Certificates of discharge from their debts were granted to the following insolvents :
....... ; John Blair, of Melbourne, surgeon*; ....... William Cottier, of Rye, limeburner ; F. W. Wilks, of Collingwood, commission agent. (P.6, Argus, 10-6-1871.)
*Blair,like Cottier,recovered and bought Villa Maria, naming it Blairgowrie, which eventually became the new name of Sorrento East.

Until documentation of a licence being issued for William Cottier's house near Dromana under the name, Rye Hotel, is found, this claim must be treated as the type of myth that finds its way into family folklore, such as Rosebud's Captain Adams being the illegitimate son of Lord Vivian and receiving a grant of 750 acres. As William's application of 1867 shows, he intended to call the hotel the Tootgarook Hotel;he did not mention transferring a previous licence.

However,the fact that a "Tootgarook Hotel" had been operating earlier*(on part of the Tootgarook pre-emptive right, near the future Leonard St) might have required a different name to be used.
*Peter Purvis**, Tootgarook, Tootgarook Hotel.Granted.(P.5, Argus, 22-4-1857.) **Peter Purves d. 1860.

Since not one of the 170 results for "Tootgarook Hotel" in the 1860's mentioned a hotel of that name until William Cottier's application in 1867,the need for another name seems unlikely. It also means that Patrick Wee Wee and the four quarrymen who drowned on the way to the quarantine station in late 1869 had met in William Cottier's TOOTGAROOK HOTEL, which, by the way was probably built on John Campbell's grants, crown allotments 6 and 7 of section 1, extending from The Esplanade to Nelson St. They had a 40 metre frontage to both streets between points 60 metres east of Napier St and 100 metres west of Lyons St.

Was William Cottier ahead of his time in naming the area Rye? He used the name twice in his 1867 application. There was no mention of either Tootgarook or Rye Townships in The Argus in the 1860's,the only indication that a township was even in the pipeline being the following advertisement:

extension on mail road between Cheltenham and Tootgarook (in consequence of removal of post office, Tootgarook to another site), at contract rate per mile, from 1st of July to 31st of December, 1860, £8 6s. 6d,Henry Dunn ;
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 17 October 1860 p 7 Article)

In 1868 the school at Rye was still called the Tootgarook school when John Watt (whose house now stands next to the Sorrento Museum) was appointed to the committee.
Tootgarook, No. 623 -Robert H. Kelly, John Watt ;(P.7, Argus, 24-6-1868.)

RYE. County of Mornington, parish of Nepean, in the village of Rye, on Port Phillip Bay.Upset price, £8 per acre. Allotments 4, 6,7,8, Section 2 ; 7,10, Section 3. 2 roods each. (P.3, Argus, 21-4-1869.)

Now realising why I'd found no mention of either Tootgarook or Rye Townships,I entered VILLAGE OF RYE and the Cottier claim of giving Rye its name was shot down in flames.

COUNTRY LOT. NEPEAN. Situate on the southern shore of Port Phillip Bay, west of the village reserve of Rye, about seven miles east of the Sanatorium.Upset price, £1 per acre. Allotment 12. 163 acres.
)P.7, Argus,17-8-1865.)
(Crown allotment 12,parish of Nepean was on the north east corner of Melbourne and Canterbury Rds and became part of Owen Cain's Tyrone.)


It could be presumed that the people who signed the petition of 9-3-1861,scanned onto page 132 of Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, had children enrolled at Robert Quinan's school at Dromana. It was signed by both William Cottier and John Campbell. This would indicate that both families were still living at Dromana in 1861. It is possible that Master Mariner, John Gibson (whose son,John, born in 1859 on the Survey later became a Kiwi) had a vessel and took Campbell to Rye each day, or the pier was built later than 1860. (John Gibson also signed the petition!)

Did the village of Rye have that name while John Campbell and William Cottier were still living at Dromana? Yes, in early 1860!

Nepean, situate from 8 to 10 miles south-easterly from Point Nepean adjoining the village reserve of
Rye, and west of Mr. Purves's pre-emptive section :etc.
(Column 4 about a third of the way down in the second MELBOURNE sale after GISBORNE, P.7,Argus,23-4-1860.)

Jennifer Nixon's FAMILY, CONNECTIONS, SORRENTO AND PORTSEA probably has much information about the Cottiers but let's see if trove can add anything.


COTTIER.-In loving memory of our dear sister,Lily, who passed away on the 25th August, 1924,at Frankston; and our dear mother, who passed away on the 23rd August, 1913, at Sorrento; and our dear brother, Walter, who passed away on the 17th September, 1916, at Sorrento.(P.13,Argus,25-8-1928.)

Possibly related to William.
COTTIER.-On the 3rd inst., at Queenscliff, James Cottier*, aged thirty-one years. Gipps Land and
New Zealand papers please copy.(P.4, Argus,9-2-1867.)
*His son, James Edwin, was still at Queenscliff when he married in 1885.

COTTIER. -On the 11th Mar, at the Children's Hospital, Melbourne, Alan William, dearly loved grandson of Edwin John (deceased) and Josie Dark, Ophir, Sorrento, and William Cottier, Frankston* and the late Elizabeth Cottier, aged 9 years and 11 months. (P.1, Argus, 12-5-1925.) The boy's parents, John and Elizabeth, who placed the previous notice in the same issue,lived in Richmond.

*Possibly son of William in previous notice.
COTTIER, James.—On March 10,at his residence, Lewis street,Frankston, loving husband of Isabella (Queenie).
COTTIER. —The Funeral of the late Mr. JAMES COTTIER, of Lewis street, Frankston, will leave Cain street, Sorrento, THIS DAY (Thursday), after a service commencing at 2.45 p.m., for the Sorrento Cemetery.
(P.12, Argus,11-3-1954.)

Grandfather of Alan William.
COTTIER -On the 7th September at Charlescote, 23 Hope street Spotswood, William, the dearly beloved husband of the late Elizabeth Cottier and loving father of Jack and Ethel (Mrs W.R.Anderson), aged 77 years -Mother and
father reunited. (P.1, Argus, 8-9-1932.)

The late Elizabeth Cottier (nee Dark) above(Lily.)
COTTIER. –On the 20th[?] August, at Fndley? street,Frankston, Elizabeth Hester (Lily), dearly loved wife of William Cottier, loving mother of Jack and Ethel (Mrs. Anderson), loved sister of Ted(deceased), Walter (deceased), Charlie, Minnie (Mrs. White), Annie (Mrs. Skelton), Frances (Mrs.Johnstone), Effie (deceased), and Harry, aged 65 years.(P,.1,Argus, 26-8-1924.)

Edwin John Dark's grandson.
COTTIER.—On August 25, at Sydney, Edwin John dearly beloved son of Elizabeth and John, brother of Allan (deceased), Florence (Mrs.Gillson) and Charles aged 28 years. -Loved by all. (P.22, Argus, 1-9-1951.)

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John Gibson 1859 - 1932 Kangarong, Victoria, Australia
Cert reads: 3 August 1859, Jamiesons Survey, Kangerong, Victoria, John, not ... or nurse to certify, signatures of occupiers or other witnesses, Mrs Brownlee ... Registered 3 Oct 1859 at Schnapper Point by William Armstrong, Deputy Registrar ..

(The above was discovered when I was researching William Brownlee of the survey for my DROMANA HERITAGE TRAIL journal. My motto is USE IT OR LOSE IT. The witness to the birth would have been Mary Ann McLear, widow of John McLear who was killed at Plenty's Plough Inn during a race meeting on Boxing Day, 1849. Mary Ann may have met Mrs Brownlee in that area. Mrs McLear leased a property called The Willow, which was near the south-bound freeway off ramp and the drive-in. John Gibson, who married Emma P. Clinton, was possibly* a brother of Walter Gibson of the Survey and "Glenholm", Dromana. John Gibson's father was Adam Gibson and Walter's first-born was named Adam. William Brownlee may have also come from Lanarkshire.)

* I'm not a gambler but I reckon I could make good money betting on my guesses. John and Walter had the same father, Adam, who married a Purdie girl, so Walter may have married a cousin.

GIBSON—PURDIE.—(Golden Wedding)—On the 22nd November, 1849, at Kilbuchs-place, near Biggar, Scotland, by the Rev. Hamilton Paul, Walter Gibson, son of Adam Gibson, of Wiston, to Margaret Purdie, daughter of Alexander Purdie, of Peebles. (Present address, Glenholm, Dromana, Victoria.) Scotch papers please copy.
(P.9,Argus, 9-12-1899.)

John Gibson
Born August 3, 1859 in Kangarong, Victoria, Australia
Son of John Gibson and Emma P. (Clinton) Gibson
Brother of Caroline E. (Austin) Rowe, James Gibson and William Henry Gibson
Husband of Edna (Dale) Gibson — married December 27, 1882 in New Plymouth, TNK, NZ
Father of Iris E. (Gibson) Way, Elsie Edna Gibson, Ellen Elizabeth Gibson, Robert Gibson, William Henry Gibson, Mabel Irene Gibson, Jessie Hilda Catherine Gibson, John Harold Gibson, Sydney Eric Gibson, Norman Parau Gibson, Lance V. Gibson and Vivian Phyllis Gibson
Died October 16, 1932 in New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand
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Name: John /Gibson/ [1]

Date: 03 AUG 1859
Place: Kangarong, , Victoria, Australia
Note: Ref #18714, indexed as Jno Gibson s/o John, mother Emma Parkes (sic) Clinton ? in the parish of Kangerong, Co. Mornington. Cert reads: 3 August 1859, Jamiesons Survey, Kangerong, Victoria, John, not present, male, s/o John GIBSON, mariner, 34, born Wiston, Lanarkshire, Scotland, married Emerald Hill, Melbourne, Victoria to Emma Parker Gibson, formerly Clinton, 32, born London, England. Issue living and deceased: Emma (no age given), John, 61 days. Informant, John Gibson, father, residence: Jamieson Survey, Victoria. Witnesses: No medical attendant, or nurse to certify, signatures of occupiers or other witnesses, Mrs Brownlee and Mrs McLein (sic).
Registered 3 Oct 1859 at Schnapper Point by William Armstrong, Deputy Registrar[2][3]

Date: 16 OCT 1932
Place: New Plymouth, , Taranaki, New Zealand
Note: Coronary stenosis, aorta atheroma[4]

Date: 18 OCT 1932
Place: New Plymouth, , Taranaki, New Zealand[5]

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Husband: John Gibson
Wife: Edna Dale
Child: Iris Emma Gibson
Child: Norman Parau Gibson
Child: Lance Vernon Gibson
Child: Vivian Phyllis Gibson
Child: Elsie Edna Gibson
Child: Robert Gibson
Child: Ellen Elizabeth Gibson
Child: William Henry Gibson
Child: Mabel Irene Gibson
Child: Jessie Hilda Catherine Gibson
Child: John Harold Gibson
Child: Sydney Eric Gibson
Date: 27 DEC 1882
Place: New Plymouth, , Taranaki, New Zealand
Note: exact date from ref 308. Folio #2758 John GIBSON to Edna DALE[6][7]
Husband: John Gibson
Child: John Gibson
Date: 31 DEC 1855
Place: Melbourne, , Victoria, Australia
Note: cert. #3632 shows: John Gibson, 30, single, born Lanark, Scotland, Master Mariner, present and usual address: Brigantine 'Express', Melbourne, s/o Adam Gibson, contractor, Janet Purdie;
Bride Emma Parker Clinton, 28, single, born London, d/o William Clinton, currier, Jemima Parker, present and usu. address Melbourne. No children by former marriage, either living or dead for either party (ie Emma ignores her previous marriage and existing child, Caroline Emma Austin).
I John Gibson, do hereby declare that I am a member of the Presbyterian church, and that I was married in the Manse at Emerald Hill. Signed by both parties. Witnesses: Andrew Boyd, Elisabeth Boyd. Minister: D Macdonald.[8][9]

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Source: S1314 Title: BDM: AUS Viital Records Index, Record Type: CD Roms, Subject: Australian birth death marriage Abbreviation: BDM: AUS Vitals Author: LDS Publication: 1998 Repository: #R21 Call Number: CD Roms
Repository: R21 Name: LDS library Address: State: Utah Country: USA Note: films and cd roms
Source: S191 Title: BC GIBSON, John; Kangerong, Victoria, Australia, Record Type: Birth cert, Name Of Person: John GIBSON (1648), File Number: VIC ref #18714 Abbreviation: GIBSON, John: BC 1859, Victoria, Australia Publication: 03 Aug 1859 Note: 3 August 1859, Jamiesons Survey, Kangerong, Victoria, John, not present, male, s/o John GIBSON, mariner, 34, born Wiston, Lanarkshire, Scotland, married Emerald Hill, Melbourne, Victoria to Emma Parker Gibson, formerly Clinton, 32, born London, England. Issue living and deceased: Emma (no age given), John, 61 days. Informant, John Gibson, father, residence: Jamieson Survey, Victoria. Witnesses: No medical attendant, or nurse to certify, signatures of occupiers or other witnesses, Mrs Brownlee and Mrs McLein (sic). CONT Registered 3 Oct 1859 at Schnapper Point by William Armstrong, Deputy Registrar Repository: #R158
Repository: R158 Name: VIC BDM Address: State: VIC Country: AUS Note: Victoria Govt BDM online certs:
Source: S372 Title: DCERT: GIBSON, John, New Plymouth 1932 Abbreviation: GIBSON, John: DCERT 1932 Publication: 16 Oct 1932 Note: Young St, New Plymouth, 16th Oct 1932, John GIBSON, farmer aged 73 years of coronary stenosis, aorta atheroma. Last seen by W R Wade, 6th Oct. Father John GIBSON, sea captain, mother Emma GIBSON. Buried 18 Oct, 1932, Te Henui cemetery, New Plymouth by G H Gavin, Anglican. Born Victoria Australia, in NZ 64 years. Married New Plymouth at age 23, to Edna Dale, now 72. 6 children still living: Males 40, 37, females, 47, 44, 42, 34.
Source: S58 Title: BDM: NZ fiche index- Birth Death Marriage, Record Type: NZ births deaths marriages (index on fiche) Abbreviation: BDM: NZ Fiche Indices Repository: #R70
Repository: R70 Name: Kapiti Genealogy Society Address: APFHC City: Paraparaumu Library State: WTN Country: NZ
↑ Source: #S191 Page: Inspection p/copy held, rcvd Oct 1993
↑ Source: #S191 Page: Inspection p/copy held, rcvd Oct 1993
↑ Source: #S1314 Page: GIBSON/PARKER births, searched Dec 2003
↑ Source: #S372
↑ Source: #S372
↑ Source: #S372
↑ Source: #S58 Page: GIBSON mar. 1882 extracted Mar 2002
↑ Source: #S193 Page: From Inspection p/copy held by L. McIntosh 1993
↑ Source: #S222 Page: Inspection p/copy held by L McIntosh Nov 1993, scanned Mar 2006

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At Frankston Court on Friday, Mr Pyvis, P.M., was occupied from 11.30 a.m. until 5.30 p.m. with the hearing
of a claim for £20 damages by Leeland Davey, of Boundary road, Mt.Eliza, orchardist, against Albert McIlroy, also of Boundary road, Mt.Eliza. Davey alleged that McIlroy's cows had trespassed in and damaged his orchard at Mt. Eliza on the night of 10th January and early morning of 11th January.
(Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 17 February 1939 p 7 Article.)

Mt. Eliza Public Hall Committee,with request for attention to ruts at corner of Boundary and Walker's roads, Mt. Eliza.-Engineer reported this had been done.
(Shire of Frankston & Hastings MONTHLY MEETING.
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Wednesday 16 April 1924 p 6 Article)

Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 31 May 1929 p 2 Article
... , Mt. Eliza, from Pt. Nepean road to the beach. Members of the council will attend a special Empire Day ... COUNCIL NOTES The Shire of Mornington has agreed to pay half the cost of regrading Boundary road ..

PRICE wanted grubbing about 6.5 acres land at Mt. Eliza. Apply H. Ansall, Boundary road, Mt. Eliza.
(Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Saturday 16 April 1932 p 5 Advertising)

Frankston, County of Mornington [cartographic material ... - Slv

Moorooduc, County of Mornington [cartographic material ...

OBITUARY—The death of Mr Alfred Jones occurred at Somerville on Saturday. The deceased gentleman,who was in his eighty-fourth year,took up his residence in the district in the fifties. Until lately he took a prominent part in public affairs, was for many years a councillor, and also filled many other important offices.Deceased was universally respected.The funeral took place on Monday, the Rev. A. P. Macfarlane officiating at the grave.
(Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 3 February 1906 p 2 Article)

Read Alfred Jones' biography in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS: PAST AND PRESENT (1888), which is in the local history room at Rosebud library and hopefully most municipal libraries. I seem to remember that Peninsula pioneers were under WESTERNPORT, but there is an index. (For Frankston, read MT ELIZA.) Where did Alf go at the age of 12? See if you can find entries for Hodgins and McCurley.

One of the oldest and most highly respected residents of the district in Mrs. Charlotte Hodgins, sen., passed
quietly away on Saturday last at the residence of her son, Mr. Harry Hodgins, Grayden's road, Hastings. Until about a fortnight ago the deceased lady, who had reached the grand age of 90, was in her usual health, and took a keen interest in all matters pertaining to the welfare of the district, and was able to attend the last meeting of the Bush Hospital Women's Auxiliary held on June 7. She was confined to her room for about a fortnight, but was making a good recovery, when her heart failed suddenly and she expired peacefully.
To mourn their loss, she leaves a large family of sons and daughters as well as many grand-children and,

The burial took place in the Church of England portion of the Hastings cemetery and the service was conducted by the Rev. T. Gair, of Hastings. The funeral was a large one and a mass of beautiful floral tributes was
sent.The late Mrs. Hodgins was a very popular personality in the Hastings,Moorooduc, Somerville and Mornington districts where she was best known, and to her many friends she was regarded as the grand old lady of the Peninsula. Her capacity for interest in her numerous descendants was remarkable and her knitting needles were always busy making comforts for someone. Her cheery ways, kind face and clever hands will long be remembered. Only recently, she was the guest of honor at a Hastings social evening, when her 90th birthday was celebrated.

Arriving in Victoria in 1855 the late Mrs. Hodgins resided with her parents at Ferntree Gully and later settled on the Mornington Peninsula with her husband, the late Mr. James Hodgins, where she resided for the extended period of 72 years, braving, many troubles and sharing any joys. She was the mother of Mary (Mrs. Strachan, deceased), Susan(Mrs. Dobson), Thomas (deceased),John (deceased), James, Alexander,Henry, Charlotte (Mrs. Jones), Jean(Mrs. Doxey) and George .

The actual number of descendants of the late Mrs. Hodgins has been estimated at 10 children (three deceased), 45 grand-children; 30 great-grandchildren, 1 great great grandchild.Many records in the way of generations are heard of these times, but,it is not often five generations can be claimed. It is quite safe to say the Hodgins type is the kind needed in Australia, for they are all well, settied in occupations and delighting in a free life in the country. Virile,vigorous, honorable, and intelligent,they are people to be admired and respected. They may well be proud of "Grandma," as the late Mrs. Hodgins was known, and have received many messages of sympathy. (OBITUARY MRS. CHARLOTTE HODGINS.
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Saturday 2 July 1932 p 8 Article)



Grading works have been carried out on Davey's Bay Road, Watt's Parade and Canadian Bay road, and the old macadam section of Towerhill road had been scarified and graded.
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Friday 8 November 1940 p 7 Article)

The marriage of Elsie Vera, daughter of Mrs. A. Brain, of Middle Park,to Walter Arnold, eldest son of Mr.
and Mrs. J. Smethurst, of Canadian Bay road, Mt. Eliza, was celebrated at Christ Church, Ackland street, St.
Kilda, on May 11, by the Rev. Penicott.(Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Saturday 17 June 1933 p 1 Article)

SATURDAY. FEBRUARY 13. At 3.30 p.m.
Mount Eliza(Off Baden Powell Drive. Near Boundary Road. Which Is Off Nepean Highway. Op. Mt. Eliza Post
office.) (The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 6 February 1954 p 22 Advertising)

Come on mate. Get a new Broadbent's; your old road directory must be at least 20 years old. Use your (smethurst)BRAIN! You've got something else wrong too,so I'll give you a clue.

GILLARD. - On the 28th February, at Myrina, Point Nepean road, Mount Eliza, Louisa, the beloved wife of James Gillard, and loved mother of Mrs. Nellie Crowther, aged 73 years.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 2 March 1925 p 1 Family Notices)

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Well it was easy for me because I cut the outline of the pieces (A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, trove articles and the evidence of a foundation member of the Safety Beach Country Club) and knew how to fit them together. The following comes from comments under my RED HILL POST 1940 AND PROPOSED BACK TO RED HILL journal. Taylor, Bean and Roberts descendants would be unlikely to find them there,hence the new journal.

TAYLOR. On the 21st April, at Safety Beach, Dromana, Victoria, Rev. William H. Taylor, dearly loved husband of Esther, and loving father of Rev. F. W. Taylor (Numurkah),Will H. Taylor (450 Little Collins-street, Melbourne), Win (Mrs. W. G.Roberts, Main Ridge), Rene (Mrs.A. McCutcheon, Cavendish), and Doris (deceased). At rest.(P.1, Examiner, Launceston,3-5-1935.)

Now I'm wondering why this notice was in a Tassie newspaper and how Win Taylor came to meet W.G.Roberts of Main Ridge.
by itellya on 2015-02-11 07:59:59

Reverend Taylor (see previous comment) had probably been at Safety Beach for at least seven years and was involved with the Mornington Peninsula Development League, apparently handling the sale of badges to raise funds for improvements on Arthurs Seat.

Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 16 November 1928 p 2 Article.
Rev. Taylor said how favorably impressed Mr. Clapp was with Marine Drive when he visited Mornington recently. Mr. Clapp was most anxious to see the road trafficable: Rev. Taylor said the best thanks of the league were due to Mr. Jackson for his efforts in having Marine Drive attended to in Flinders shire portion.

I was thinking Rev. Taylor might have been the Presbyterian minister at Dromana in the 1890's until I found this.

Spectator and Methodist Chronicle (Melbourne, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Wednesday 18 April 1917 p 439 Article
News of the Churches.
Mr Roberts was appointed the Sunday School visitor. Rev. W. H. Taylor reported that he had visited most of the Sunday Schools in the interest of the Young Australia Temperance League, and that nearly all the scholars had signed the pledge. The resignation of Mr.Trewin, the Junior Circuit Steward, on account of ill health, was accepted, and Mr. Counter was appointed in his place.

IT'S A SMALL WORLD! You can say that again! Okay, IT'S A SMALL WORLD!
This has nothing to do with Red Hill but after all the Red Hill Lions Club does publish HILL 'N' RIDGE and the Roberts family pioneered Main Ridge decades before it had that name.

I wouldn't mind betting that the Rev.W.H.Taylor was living in the house on the SOUTH west corner of Seaview and Victoria St, Safety Beach at the time of his death in 1935. This house was the homestead of Mr Bean,one time president of the R.A.C.V., who organised the R.A.C.V.speed trials at Safety Beach, and was probably introduced to Spencer Jackson by Rev.W.H.Taylor himself. (See my journals about SAFETY BEACH and SPENCER JACKSON AND THE BUS BAN for sources.)

TAYLOR-BEAN-On the 2nd April, 1885, at the residence of the bride's parents "Sutton"
Haines street, North Melbourne, by the Rev J W Crisp, assisted by the Rev.W.H. Taylor, brother of the bridegroom Frank E Taylor, youngest son of Mr and Mrs.J.E. Taylor,North Melbourne to Louisa, eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs J.Bean. (Present Address, 20 Grace St, Moonee Ponds.)
(Family Notices,The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 2 April 1935 p 1.)

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I still haven't given up on the almost impossible task of trying to find the article in which Watson Eaton testified that he'd never attended university or had any medical training. Another go found the following. The extract is from page 21.

Family Tree Maker -
Esther Davis and William Griffith were witnesses at a wedding at Sadsbury. Monthly Meeting ...... Watson Eaton was a despondent at his inquest. He wrote: "The

Abraham is the son of Jonah Griffith, grandson of Abraham & Elizabeth
This is the story of Abraham. He was born in Lancaster County, PA in the year
1816. He is reported as being "the captain of a whaling ship out of Philadelphia"
but I can find nothing to prove this. He met his wife Rebecca Hurley in PA and
they were married in Blair County. Sometime after this they went on the Oregon
Trail but apparently came back to PA. They had five children, but when they came
to Australia, they only had three with them so presumably the other two had died.
On the seventh day of March 1855 a small barque entered the heads and sailed
into Pot Phillip Bay. She was the "Nimrod" out of New York. Her captain was G.C.
Whiting and she carried a cargo of wheels, lobsters, furniture, scales and seventy
passengers. The Nimrod weighed in at 450 tons, built in Maine in 1849. Aboard
the Nimrod was Abraham Griffith, his wife Rebecca and three children; Arthamece
aged 15, John Calvin aged 9 and Jonah aged 7. Abraham and Rebecca had two
other sons but as they did not come to Australia it is presumed they had died. The
two boys who presumably died were William Harris and Sylvester. Family lore has
it that Abraham was interested in gold and 1855 was the height of the Victoria
Gold rush. They are believed to have arrived with a "black servant" and a
Conestoga wagon.
With the sub-division of Crown Lands in 1854, more settlers were attracted to the
district, among them being Richard Watkins, an Englishman who is credited with
building the first house in the township. In 1857 he was joined by Abraham
Abraham grew a crop of maize that was the "wonder of the district." They lived on
rented land on Jamison's Survey until the Land Act of 1869 brought changes
allowing settlers to select tracts of less than 350 acres, and those who lived on
the Survey made their application. In 1879 Abraham had 150 acres. In censuses
and old books of the time he is variously described as a farmer, builder and
contractor. He and Rebecca had no children born in Australia. Unfortunately little
is known of Abraham in Victoria. In 1861 he is a patron of the National School,
whatever that was, perhaps a forerunner of the State Schools. In 1861, he signed
a document praising a schoolteacher. On this document is also the signature of his
friend and partner, Watson Eaton. Nothing more is heard of Abraham until March
1874 when he had an accident at Mt. Martha and was injured from which injuries
he died a few days later.
Watson Eaton was a despondent at his inquest. He wrote: "The deceased Abraham
Griffith about 58 years old was my partner. I saw him the day before he was
brought by Mr. Wiseman. His wife and I found him a good deal agitated. The next
three days he was going about and he was able to explain what had happened to
him. He said the horses ran away with him and that he kept them on the road but
could not keep them away from the saplings. He said the accident would not have
happened but for the saplings."
Abraham is buried in the cemetery at Dromana, as is Rebecca. In company with
about twenty other old graves they are kept tidy by the Dromana Historical
Society. Unfortunately no records have survived as to which grave is which and the
sea winds have worn the inscriptions from the headstones. Jonah is buried there
with his wife as is John Calvin and his wife and Abraham's great grandson Ves
(Sylvester) and his wife.
GRIFFITH, b. Abt. 1816; d. Australia; m. REBECCA HURLEY; d. Australia.

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Spencer Jackson was Dromana's dynamo and his fellow members of members of the Mornington Peninsula Development League used a similar term to describe him: LIVE WIRE!

Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 16 November 1928 p 2 Article (EXTRACTS.)
Mr.. Spencer Jackson forwarded
cheque for subscription, and £2/2/ as
his annual donation. He hoped that
members would use their best endea
vors to increase the membership. He
also offered the use of his Melbourne
office to the league if it was required
at any time. A vote "of thanks was
passed to Mr. Jackson for the great
interest he was taking in the. league.

Mr Jackson reported that he had
had a visit from Mr H. J. Bean and
that the R.AC.V was holding speed
and acceleration tests on Safety
Beach, Dromana, on December 1. One
thousand motor cars were expected.
If the meeting was successful the club
would hold another in January. The
Dromana Progress Assdciation had
been asked to co -operate in organis
ing. Volunteers were, also required
to control the traffic.He suggested
that the league render assistance.
The profits would be donated to any
public charity that Dromana Progress
consents to give them to. He moved
that the league support.

I thought his BEAUTIFUL DROMANA of 1927 nothing more than an advertorial and that his incredible achievements of running the huge fundraising ball of 1928 that enabled construction of the road to the summit of Arthurs Seat, and being a prime mover in finally getting the coast road from Mornington to Dromana built and getting the bus ban lifted were motivated by his business interests.

DYSON. On July 27, at Dromana, George Robert Dyson, a truly noble character, much-esteemed friend of Spencer Jackson. (P.2, Argus,28-7-1944.)

What Will Railways Gain?
Residents of the Mornington Peninsula
who had enjoyed in recent years a period
of remarkable progress and prosperity, have
suffered a severe blow through the with-
drawal of private motor-omnibus services,
which has virtually thrown them back to
the unenviable stage when they had no
direct transport service to Melbourne. Lead-
ing residents of Dromana and Rosebud
yesterday said that the astonishing develop-
ment of the buside resorts in that district
was due entirely to motor transport, and
condemned the sweeping provisions of the
Motor-'bus (Urban and Country) Act which
have forced private motor-'buses off the
road and left the district without adequate
transport facilities. Investigation of the
business affairs of many traders suggests
that the falling off in passenger traffic
already (allowing for the diminution due
to the winter season) has seriously affected
Back to the "Rabbit Express."
It is impossible to find logic in the reason-
ing of the authorities who have brought
the Mornington Peninsula within the scope
of the ban. It is poorly served by the rail-
way, and the most absurd part of the pre-
sent prohibition is that the Railways de-
partment has nothing satisfactory to sub-
stitute for the 'buses. Nor can it hope to
add more than a paltry few pounds a week
to its revenue by inducing a few visitors
to submit to the annoyance and inconveni-
encee of changing from the electric train
at Frankston to motor-'buses travelling to
Sorrento and Portsea. Ten years ago the
residents of Sorrento, Rosebud, or Dro-
mana who desired to travel to Melbourne
by train in the morning began the jour-
ney before daylight in a horse-drawn
vehicle which conveyed fish and rabbits
to Mornington. This conveyance is now
historic. It was known in the district as the
"rabbit express." It deposited its weary
passengers at the Mornington railway sta-
tion in time for the morning train. Several
residents of the district invested their capi-
tal in the purchase of motor-'buses, and
completely changed the outlook for the
peninsula. Not only were residents enabled
to go to and from Melbourne in an hour or
two, but the service attracted Melbourne
people to bayside resorts which hitherto
had boen inaccessible to the majority of
wage-earners. The direct result of these
'bus services was reflected in the erection
of new shops and dwellings. Land values
rapidly increased, and Dromana, Rosebud,
Rye, and other places experienced a pros-
perity undreamed of a year or two pre-
viously. Residents of townships inland on
the peninsula also enjoyed the privilege
of speedy motor transport. It would be
an exaggeration, of course, to suggest that
the district has been crippled by the 'bus
ban, but there has been severe retrogres-
sion. The population of the peninsula is
exceedingly loyal to the private bus owners,
and has been since the inception of the
services, and the obligation under the new
law to break the journey at Frankston has
increased the hostility which the district
has shown towards the Railways depart-
ment. This attitude began when the Rail-
ways Commissioners instituted a motor-'bus
service in opposition to private enterprise.
Residents objected strongly to that en-
croachment upon a field pioneered by
private enterprise, and in which, they
claimed, there was not sufficient competi-
tion with the railways to justify the step.
The exasperating delays, inconvenience,
and difficulty in reaching Dromana by the
"official" route (for several five-passenger
motor cars licensed by the hackney car-
riage committee of the Melbourne City
Council, still ply between Melbourne and
Sorrento) was shown yesterday. Inquiry
made at the Tourist Bureau elicited the in-
formation that the only train for passengers
to Dromana left Flinders street at 9.20 a.m.
A return ticket to Frankston was neces-
sary. Upon arrival at Frankston the pas-
senger walked along a ramp a distance of
about 400 yards to a motor- bus stand. The
walk suggested the difficulties which would
befall elderly persons with luggage or
mothers with infants and small children.
The passenger had boarded the train at
Caulfield, and it was not until he reached
Frankston that he was told that at Flinders
street he could have purchased a combined
train and 'bus ticket from Melbourne to
Dromana and return, although that infor-
mation could easily have been supplied by
the Tourist Bureau. At Dromana it was
leamed that the bus did not leave Dromana
for Frankston until 5 o'clock. The pas-
senger decided to return to Melbourne
earlier in the afternoon in one of the hire
cars, which cover the distance in little
more than an hour, or about half the time
occupied by the train and 'bus by way of
Frankston. The opinion was freely ex-
pressed at several bayside resorts visited
yesterday that the only persons whom the
Railways department could expect to travel
by the train and 'bus route would be
strangers. Residents of the district having
business in the city invariably patronise
the hire cars, and it was predicted that
Melbourne residents who have gone regu-
larly to the peninsula for holidays will also
adopt that method, or forego their visits.
Hardships of 'Bus Owners.
Apart from the widespread discomfort
to the travelling public, the ban has been
disastrous to those who invested their capi-
tal in motor-'buses. At Rosebud a limb-
less soldier, who has a wife and three chil-
dren, and is a skilful driver in spite of an
artificial leg, has six motor-'buses idle in
his garage. They represent all his capital.
His position is so acute that he has been
forced to dismiss his three assistants (all
former soldiers) and is now himself en-
gaged in carting wood. Before the ban
he used 500 gallons of petrol weekly; now
he sells about 12 gallons a week to motor-
ists and uses a gallon or two himself.
That is a typical instance of the strangling
of private enterprise which was performing
an essential public service. At Dromana
one of the most respected families in the
district is in similar straits. All of its capi-
tal is represented by splendid motor-'buses
idle in the garage, and for which no buyers
can be found. One private service has
undertaken the Frankston-Sorrento route,
and co-operates with the Railways depart-
ment. The other private 'bus owners de-
cline to apply for licences for this route
(although they state that they have been
urged by the Country Roads Board to do
so) because they are certain that the pas-
senger traffic would not enable them to
pay expenses. Several of them, however,
maintain a daily five-passenger service be-
tween Melbourne and Sorrento, because
they believe that the present ban cannot
continue. Although there are 24 trains
daily to Frankston in the winter, the Sor-
rento-Portsea 'bus meets only three. To
adapt Punchs' famous advice to those
about to marry, wise counsel to passengers
intending to travel on one of the 21 trains
which are not met by a 'bus is "Don't."
"Public Rights Infringed "
Indignation was expressed yesterday by
several leading towspeople of Dromana
and Rosebud over what was called "an
iniquitous position" and "an unwarrant-
able infringement of public rights." Mr.
W. J. Chadwick, of Dromana, said that it
was outrageous to penalise the private 'bus
owners who had served the public so well.
"What does this district contribute to the
railways?" asked Mr. Chadwick. "Little
or nothing. The ban is a most distressing
setback to the district. People had an
easy and cheap way of moving about the
peninsula. Many Melbourne residents have
come here for years because of the 'bus
service, and have become property-owners.
Many week-end residents have been built
solely because of the 'buses. The Railways
department will not benefit through their
withdrawal. Some people will stay away
from the district, and others who can afford
it will buy motor-cars. People will not
submit to the inconvenience of changing
from train to 'bus, when under the old
system the 'bus picked them up at their
doors and set them down at their destina-
Councillor Shaw, of the Flinders Shire
Council, said that the recent progress of the
district was due entirely to motor-'bus faci-
lities. The Frankston service, he predicted
would be a failure. People would not bother
to change. The ban would harm the dis-
trict considerably. He estimated that 96
per cent. of the residents of the bayside
from Portsea to Dromana would decline to
travel by train. He trusted that the leader
of the Opposition (Sir William McPher-
son) would lose no time in urging Parlia-
ment to amend the law to exempt certain
districts from the provisions of the act.
Similar views were espressed by Coun-
cillor T. W. Chadwick, of Rosebud. Land
values had increased greatly since the
'buses ran through to Melbourne, he said.
Land which six years ago was sold at £1
a foot had recently been sold at £10 a foot.
Storekeepers in the district had been hard hit.(P. 16, Argus, 29-6-1928.)

Spencer Jackson's letter.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 11 February 1929 p 17 Article)

Railways Commissioners' Defence.
A letter waS published on Monday from
the secretary of the Dromana Progress
Association (Mr. Spencer H. Jackson), in
which complaint was made of the Railways
motor-bus services on the Mornington
peninsula, which were described as shock-
ingly inadequate, and such as to retard
the development of holiday resorts on the
peninsula. At the same time, Mr. Jack-
son wrote to the Railways Commissioners,
expressing keen disappointment at the
manner in which the department was re
tarding the district.
In reply Mr. Jackson has received a let-
ter from the secretary of the department
(Mr. E.C.Eyers), pointing, out that at
the time of the introduction of the Motor
Omnibus (Urban and Country) Act five
commercial road motor passenger services
(including the service operated by the de-
partment) were running. When portion
of the route between Melbourne and
Frankston was prohibited the department
withdrew its road service, as did one of
the other operators (Dyson's Motors), who
applied for and obtained a licence to oper-
ate over the authoriscd route between
Frankston and the peninsula. All other
operators, Mr. Eyers states, in defiance of
the law, have continued to run to and
from Melbourne practically as formerly,
sometimes with large omnibuses and fre
qucntly with more than five passengers.
Dyson's Motors, who are the only author-
ised operators, and who are carrying pas
sengers between Frankston and the penin-
sula under contract with the department.
have so far obtained only a negligible por-
tion of the business they were entitled to
expect, because of the continued operations
of the unauthorised services to and from
Melbourne. The commissioners are op-
posed to the through running from Mel-
bourne in contravention of the law, but
they have no voice in the administration
of the act, and are therefore powerless in
the matter. In their opinion there is no
reason why the combined rail and road
facilities should not meet fully the require
ments of the district. The journey, they
consider, can be made in the same time
as by the through road services, and large
expenditure has been incurred at Frank-
ston to make the change at that point easy
and comfortable.
-"During the current holiday season," con-
tinued Mr. Eyers, both the department
and Dyson's Motors made elaborate ar-
rangements, at considerable cost, to handle
expeditiously an anticipated large volume
of traffiic to and from the peninsula. The
arrangements, however, proved to bo quite
unnecessary, and the expenditure was
money lost, because the business did not
go by rail, but was secured by the un-
authorised 'through' services. While
these unauthorised services are permitted
to continue it would be quite unreason-
able' to expect Dyson's Motors to incur
further losses by increasing a service which
is already greater than is necessary on the
basis of the patronage accorded it. At the
present time three trains are met by
Dyson's Motors in each direction daily
(except on Sundays, when two trains are
met), and on only a very negligible num-
ber of occasions have the train connections
been missed. With the exception of these
occasions, the time-table has been closely
adhered to.
In reply to Mr. Eyers' letter, Mr. Jack-
son- contends that the department
has proved beyond doubt that it cannot
offer inducements to the travelling public
to use its means of transport. He con-
siders the railway fare to Frankston and
the 'bus charge of 5/- for an 18-mile jour-
ney excessive when, compared with the
"unauthorised" motors' charge of only 7/0
for a 44-mile journey. The small amount
of money received by the department for
the actual use of its railroad does not, he
thinks, justify tho continuance of the re-
strictions on the motor services of the
peninsula. Mr. Jackson states that the
buses miss the connecting trains more
often than they meet them, and that they
have proved that they cannot consistently
do the journey in an hour and a half, as
the "unauthorised" motors do regularly.
(P.15,Argus, 14-2-1929.)

The president of the Dromana Progress
Association (Mr.S.Jackson) said that he
could produce the dates of 33 occasions in
February on which Dyson's bus had missed
the connecting train at Mornington.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 27 March 1929 p 7 Article
... * deputation from the Mornington peninsula)

Things weren't looking so promising at the end of 1929 so I tried the next decade only to find one article. The Shire of Flinders had protested against the bus ban, this article hidden among countless articles about football.
'BUS BAN PROTEST. Flinders Council Takes Action.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 6 February 1930 p 10 Article

How could I confirm that through buses had been allowed to compete with the railways? Rosebud, Birkdale???
It worked.(Birkdale was the name that Whitaker's busline used for the suburb we now call Tootgarook because of Birkdale guest house on the east corner of Carmichael St.) This seemed to indicate that Whitaker's through service started in 1937 but out of curiosity I switched to the 1920's and found these two advertisements under MOTOR SERVICES TO EVERYWHERE.

Return Fares, Sorrento, 17/3 1st Class, 16/, 2nd Class, Return Fares, Dromana, 12/3 1st class,11/ 2nd class. Book Govt. Tourist Bureau or Flinders st. station.

DROMANA, Rosebud-Whitaker's service leaves Batman av., 9:30 a.m., 5 p.m. Book Pioneer 15 Queen's Walk. C. 5224.
(Classified Advertising
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 9 November 1929 p 34 Advertising)

The first involved a combined rail/bus ticket but the numerous private bus operators such as Whitaker of Rosebud must have sensed that they would not be prosecuted.

"Fred Whitaker Senior established his garage in Dromana in the early 1920's and ran a bus to Rosebud.Later his sons amalgamated with Johnson and Metcher to form Portsea Passenger Service......Spencer Jackson organised a deputation of 200 to the Minister of Transport with the result that buses were permitted to run to Melbourne until W.W.11 necessitated economies.*" (*Petrol rationing.) P.53, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.


This journal resulted from a quest to confirm a theory that a building,the remains of which are shown in an aerial photo of portion of Dromana taken after the bushfires of December 1939, was the Kangerong guest house. My motto is USE IT OR LOSE IT now because I have often failed to find articles on trove that I have read in the past such as Watson Eaton's testimony that he'd never attended university or received any medical training, or my current problem of finding when Dromana was split over the proposal to relocate the post office from the Foote St corner.

Like George Smith's Wooloowoollboolook,Desailly's run on the peninsula has often been mentioned and I think I have seen a reference in a heritage study to it being on the southern side of Arthurs Seat's summit. The only actual place whose location I've been able to determine is Desailly's waterhole near which Victoria's second duel took place between Meyrick and Dr Barker. This was near the bend in Maxwell Rd in Melway 252 J6. (Location based on a map in Charles Hollinshed's LIME LAND LEISURE.)

This extract pertains to the family of Dr Desailly (who was on the staff of Sydney's hospital in 1832 and whose descendants married into the Dr Godfrey Howitt family and were valued members of the Camperdown community- none of which was mentioned in Billot and Kenyon's article.)

The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 7 December 1935 p 4 Article

No. 103
SOMETHING of the Desaillys has already been told in this series of articles, but there is much more. Dr.Francis Desailly, who was born in London in 1772, came over from Van Dieman's Land after having been in partnership
with Captain Harrison at Jerico. With him were his sons, Francis and George.

They arrived in the ill-fated Britannia on April 1, 1839. As agent for Sir John Owen, Dr. Desailly took up Fulham, on the Glenelg, in 1841, but legal troubles supervened, and the run was transferred to George Fairbairn, who represented the Simeon Lord estate. Subsequently Fulham fell into the hands of George Armytage, of Bagdad.

Meanwhile Dr. Francis Desailly went to Gippsland and acquired a run a few miles from Sale, then in the possession of a Sydney firm John King and Co. The Gippsland run was also named Fulham,and was held by Desailly till 1853.

The sons, Francis and George, went to Edward Hobson's Kangerong and Tootgarook stations, on the eastern shores of Port Phillip Bay, where now Dromana stands. Hobson, a grandson of Dr. Luttrell, surgeon at Hobart Town, and a friend of another Desailly (Dr. T. A.), who was assistant surgeon at the Colonial Hospital, Hobart Town, was the first to settle in that locality.

Robert Jamieson, who for a time held all the country from Arthur's Seat to Point Nepean, persuaded Hobson and the Desaillys to accompany him upon an expedition to explore Westernport Bay.They took three blackfellows with them. They carried a whaleboat across the peninsula, and in it visited all parts of the Westernport Bay. The result of the expedition was that Jamieson sold out most of his holdings,including Cape Schanck, to Willoughby and Thomson, and they in turn sold to John Barker, who later was for 40 years clerk of Parliament.Jamieson then moved to the head of Westernport, and he called his new province Torbinurruck, now Tobin Yallock.
Francis (jun.) and George Desailly remained at Arthur's Seat for some time.

Meyrick(a member of the family after whom the area known as Merricks is named)talks of Edward Hobson at Kangerong in his book Life in the Bush...
Before the close of June 1837,he (Hobson) moved down the bay past Arthurs Seat and took up the country between the present day townships and Rye*.His run, known to Henry Meyrick as PACKOMEDURRAWARRA became best known as Kangerong or Tootgarook." (P.25 of Colin Mclear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
*It is not certain whether Edward Hobson's run comprised all the land between Ellerina/ Bruce/Foxey's Hangout Rd and Government Rd, Rye at the same time, but he had moved past Arthurs Seat before Hugh Jamieson purchased his special Survey in 1841. The purpose of the above is to explain that "Henry's friend at PACKEMEDURRAWARRA" in the following article was Edward Hobson.

"And Some on—the Wallaby Track" BOOKS OF THE DAY
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 16 March 1940 p 34 Article Illustrated
... , the two boys, in order to be near Maurice, took up some land on Westernport, about half-way between ... . Finally they decided it was hopeless to stay at Westernport. Henry, on the recommendation of a friend ... 2520 words

Narre Gullen was probably Coolart. The Desaillys probably sat on the fence when two versions of the duel at Desailly's waterhole appeared, given that one version was written by Howitt, who received many grants in the parishes of Fingal (west of Boneo Rd and the Cape Schanck turn off road) and Flinders(fronting Boyds Rd.)

This extract from the above mentioned book of the day details how Henry Meyrick's life ended in the Thompson River in 1847 in an attempt to get medical attention for Mrs Desailly.

In May, 1847, Alfred and Henry were invited to stay at the station of Mr.Desailly, on the Thomson River. Mrs.
Desailly, whose confinement was expected, became suddenly ill. Desailly dared not leave his wife, and asked Henry to ride to Alberton for a doctor. The Thomson River was flooded at the time.To save time Henry insisted on swimming the river on horseback, despite Desailly's protests. Horse and man were sweptdown stream. By some means Henry lost his hold on the horse, and was drowned in midstream. Desailly witnessed the tragedy, powerless to give any assistance.

Next day Mrs. Desailly and her child both died. Henry's body was not found until a fortnight later.That is the story of one man who helped to make Australia. The final tragedy of the death of Henry and the mother and child must be typical of many such that have never been recorded.
"LIFE IN THE BUSH 11840-1847)," by F. J.Meyrick (London: Thomas Nelson); 10/.

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The Shire of Flinders and Kangerong wasformed by amalgamating the Flinders and Kangerong Road Districts. The former had listed ratepayers geographically which had made propertieseasy to identify,by looking at parish maps and the latter had listed ratepayers alphabetically,which made it easy to locate their assessments. When the shire was formed the Kangerong alphbetical listing was continued.


Mornington Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1911 - 1920) Saturday 2 September 1911 p 3 Article.

"Helpless and Hopeless
State of Affairs."
The Flinders and Kangerong shire
will soon have to alter its name. A
wag has suggested "Shindies-and
Hanged-if-we'll go on.' Certainly it is
in a continual state of unrest, and the
peculiarities of its management would
perplex anyone. Some of the coun
cillors are shrewd, level-headed busi
ness men, fit and able to grapple with
any ticklish municipal problem, but
others think their whole and sole duty
is to slang-whang each other, and to
fill in their spare time slap-banging
the printer who asks for their adver
tising and doesn't want their cheap
and nasty printing. The shire coun
cil's doings during the past 12 months
would give matter for an interesting
book. Their secretaries come and
holiday as long as they can by the
seaside, and when things get too un
comfortable off they go in search of
more congenial company.
*-At the last meeting` Cr Terry form
mally handed in his resignation, ac
companied by a letter which all through
said "Enough! enough!" Cr Terry
wrote :-"After due consideration I
resolved to tender you my resignation
as a councillor of the west riding of
the shire. There are several reasons
which have led up to my action, and
after having thoroughly considered my
duties to the ratepayers, to my fellow
councillors and to myself, I can see
no other alternative but to vacate my
seat at the council table. The reasons
are several. 1. The appalling state of
the main road from Dromana to Sor
rento, the starvation amount spent on
same road as compared with the large
amounts spent on the making of a new
road-a benefit to a few cabmen and
visitors during three months of the
year on which road rates collected are
a mere bagatelle, also the conditions
on which this, the London Bridge road,
was constructed being, in my opinion,
a disgrace to any municipality which
would for one moment entertain the
matter. 2. The financial position of
he counicil is far from right, and I con
sider the revaluation of the whole
Shire is an absolute necessity, and
when I moved to that effect my motion
was defeated by a large majority. The
council by throwing out this motion
showed that they were satisfied with
the present state of financial muddle.
3. The reports from the Public Works
Department from time to time have
proved up to the hiltthat the council
as a body are totally unable and in
capable of extricating the affairs of the
ratepayers from this chaotic stale 4.
The endorsement of the ratepayers on
August 24th, 1911, proved that the
majority were in favor of the present
helpless and hopeless state of the affairs
of the council, which must before very
long reach a critical stage, the result
if which will be no credit or honor to
those in office. It will no doubt be
laid at my door by some 'honest' men
that I am deserting my post when the
ship is in danger. I have thought of
this, and after having made attempts
to alter the course pursued by the
council I have been defeated. I reco
gnise that it is useless to stem the
drift that is going on, for things are
worse than they were twelve months
ago. I thank the councillors of the
east and centre ridings for their good
fellowship and courtesy since being a
member of the council ; as to the other
nembers of the west riding, I have no
thing to thank them for but opposition
to my best endeavors to serve the rate
payers, which, if they had stood to me
as men who wished to alter the hor
rible muddle we, as a body, are in, I
think things might have been different.
Asa protest, therefore, Sir, I tender
you my resignation, for I consider my
good name and reputation would be
at stake, being unable to alter the
chaotic state of the council's affairs."
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 2-9-1911.)

To the Editor of "The Standard."
Sir,--Ratepayers at Sorrento,
now feel the loss of Ex-Councillor
Terry, for when he was in the
council he kept things in order,
and saw that every officer did his
duty: But since he resigned his
seat, things are drifting back at
Sorrento to the same groove as they
were 20 years ago. Boxthorn is
growing on the sides of the roads
and in private properties, and
apparently that by-law is now
deadl; cattle and horses are per
mitted to wander at their leisure
about the roads and streets all day
and night, and even closet pans are
allowed to flow over, and nobody
seems to care. People are continu
ally complaining, but without re
dress, so now several people are
emptying their own pans. No
wonder our finances in the shire
are in such a deplorable state, as
the outstanding rates and pan
rates in Sorrento alone, are enor
mous, and run into over three
figures. There are several who
have not paid their pan rates for
the last four years. "'Why"?.
Yours, etc.
SORRYENTO. (P.3,Mornington Standard, 16-12-1911.)

EMBARRASSMENT is a mighty powerful weapon against any government or beaurocracy in a democracy.


1910. Robert Henry Adams,200 acres, Wannaeue; 60 acres and buildings Wannaeue.
1919. Robert Adams,200 acres and buildings, part crown allotment 19, Wannaeue and 6A Wannaeue.

Crown allotment 20 Wannaeue (between The Avenue and Parkmore Rd)had been reserved as Wannaeue Village and was alienated in about 1877, about five years after the Rosebud Fishing Village was declared. Section 19 (191 acres) was sold by Robert Adams to a developer who subdivided the area bounded by Pt Nepean Rd, Parkmore Rd,South Rd and Adams Ave. The rest of c/a 19 reverted to Robert's ownership as well as several of the subdivision blocks. The 200 acres would have been much of c/a 19, and c/a 6A of c/a 20 (19 acres and 4 perches.) The 60 acres on c/a 20 was actually 5A of c/a 20 consisting of 59 acres and 12 perches.

While the difference to you might not seem great, and the description in 1919 is by no means perfect,Cr Terry's resignation had made ratepayers aware of the reason their potholed roads and crumbling bridges could not be repaired. The shire had nearly become bankrupt because over the years knowledge of the ownership of many properties had been lost and therefore no rates had been paid on them. If an owner or occupier of a property was discovered,the assessment would be found in the alphabetical listing under O (for owner) or even in a supplementary assessment after the councillor signatures confirming that the original projected revenue and expenditure had been accepted.