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Nothing lasts forever! This is especially true regarding Rosebud which has lost so many of its historic buildings, and far-less so overseas where the Pyramids, Colloseum, Panthanon, quaint villages, ancient cathedrals etc. draw huge numbers of tourists. Aborigines had an incredible connection with "place" and family historians have caught the bug. In today's DESPERATELY SEEKING, one wanted to find out the sites of a hotel and a house in Bendigo. That is why I try to provide precise locations of farms etc, even if it makes for boring reading.
As well as acknowledging and providing details about pioneers, I also aim to raise public awareness of an area's heritage so that people can experience the feeling of "place". To this end, with the assistance of Frank Thom of Rosebud Plaza, I am producing a series of one-page histories of the Rosebud area. The first is about Hugh Glass, The Thicket and Hindhope farms and Hindhope Park, with a photo and newspaper article about Hindhope Park. It is on the noticeboard near Baker's Delight.
This morning while I continued the 1954 Mornington Peninsula souvenir journal, I received a phone call from Ray
Woolridge. This is what he told me.
Hindhope Park was managed by Bill Woodward and his wife, Marge,in 1955-7 and they were followed from 1957 into the 1960's by Fred Parker. Fred's son, Dick, married one of the girls who had holidayed at the Park. (Dick was one of the stars of the Rosebud Football Club and a very good cricketer for years at Boneo. He was the one who suggested that I interview the late Ray Cairns,the Boneo Bradman.)
Ray's family lived in the Preston area and there was a group of families from there that spent their summer holidays at Hindhope since the late 1940's. Ray knows the exact site occupied by Bert Deacon's 21 person "colony" on the foreshore that is mentioned in my 1954 Mornington Peninsula Souvenir journal. Bert, a Brownlow Medalist and Carlton great, was captain-coach of the Bullants and most of his colonists were Prestonites.
At Hindhope there were three good kitchens and eating areas and visitors could use the cabins or provide their own camping (as was the case with the Clemengers' Parkmore near McCrae many decades earlier.) Every summer there would be a golf tournament at Carrington Park (Rosebud Public Golf Course)and the "Hindhope Gift" on New Year's Day.
Later on Ray Woolridge spent his summers at Netherby, now full of home units with entries in McDowell St and Jetty Rd. This was a caravan park run by Don Miller which closed in the mid 1980's. It consisted (wholly or partly) of the 2 acre lot 76 of Woolcott's subdivision of crown allotment 17 Wannaeue,purchased in 1878 by George and Susan Peatey and occupied by them from 1888 when they had repaid Nelson Rudduck's loan.
The closure of Netherby resulted in Ray holidaying at Heather Lodge, situated where Kentucky and the mini golf
are now. It was run by Jack and Audrey Hetherington and closed down in the early 1990's.
Deserting trove, I did a google search for Hindhope Park and found this treasure.
Hindhope Caravan Park | Five Little Lady
Hindhope Caravan Park
On the first night we arrived at Hindhope,for a months long stay, I woke in the middle of the night with an urgent request from Yvette to take her to the toilet block.
We had arrived in the darkness not knowing what to expect. Home left behind in Melbourne for the Summer shores of camping at Rosebud. the cabin was tiny and airless but was adequate for our needs it was more or less a glorified tent.
An enamel sink in one corner and bunk beds, old drawers and a wardrobe. Unbearably hot during the day but we intended to spend all our time outside of it.
My husband had stayed back in Melbourne to work and we had fled a boring old house in Keysborough for the wilds of Rosebud. The traditional Aussie break coming to us at last, a summer holiday on the safe foreshore of the Bay.
I grabbed Yvette's hand and a torch and we walked out into the night sky. Once we reached the bright lights of the toilet block I could see why Yvette was agitated. She was covered from head to toe in Measles. And we were there amongst families for the entire month, no thought of going home entered my brain.
So the next day I told all the people in the communal kitchen at breakfast. we had our own table, a distressed timber construction with long bench seats on either side. The seats were given to be a bit rough and had to be carefully navigated to avoid lethal splinters to the unwary.
We had our own fridge with a tiny freezer and in the massive kitchen there were enough cookers to feed 24 families. I gave all the families the information about Yvette's condition and they all agreed it was fine for her to come in with their children.
She didn't leave the cabin for days and I had to nurse her sore eyes and bathe her head with water from the sink but she was fine again after a few days. Then Debbie went down with it and Alena and Lauren didn't as they had had the measles injection. It was a disastrous start to what would become a regular holiday for us, always just us. No hubby.
By the following week we were really into the swing of things. Fun coming from the other families and their kids and every night at dinner we met up and compared the days happenings.
I took out other kids my girls had befriended and other Mums and Dad took mine with them to Arthurs seat or the Carnival with its swinging Pirate Ship. Coming back hot and sticky with pink and green fairy floss.
From then on we did everything, exploring the foreshore, swimming in the warm water that was almost bath like in its temperature and it was always safe as it was mostly shallows with little ripples that could be body surfed by a 10, 9, 5 and 3 year old child.
We went to the hot concrete pool and the girls didn't like it and we left preferring the sea and sand and the parks with their swings and see saws. But the nights were the best when the kids were sent to faraway tables to play cards and the adults would play Trivial Pursuit or cards and get merrily drunk.
My drink de jour, Spritzers of white wine and soda and ice. I smoked then as did all the others and puffing away and drinking we would endeavour to answer the questions seriously. we would retire to the cabins we all had as late as possible and as tipsy as possible so we could sleep in the hot boxes.
The kids never had a problem sleeping, however, worn out from helter skelter during the day, wind, sun and sea burning their cheeks and then turning them mahogany brown. their Father having olive skin and the girls lucky enough to inherit it.
An Argus Souvenir of THE PENINSULA ARGUS FREE PHOTOS
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 7 January 1954 p 17 Article Illustrated
This continues on from the first journal that summarised details on pages 17-20.
ADV= Advertisements, ART= Article. Businesses will not be mentioned unless they include an address or name, except where extra detail can be supplied.
Sorrento Hotel, W.B.Roseman. J.G.Taylor, canvas worker, 1 Main St, Mornington.
Rye Ice and Fuel Supply, Napier St, Rye. ( This was on the site of the R.S.L. car park. See Patricia Appleford's RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL 1667 which includes anecdotes from former pupils including a descendant of the supplies' owner.)
Rye Cake Kitchen, Nepean Hwy, next to jeweller.
Model Beach House at Mt Eliza(not involving locals.)
The Campers-Even the Kitchen sink.(Bert Deacon, Carlton F.C.great and his colony of 21 people from Preston; Mr.G.Armstrong, sec. of the Rosebud foreshore trust; Maslen, Riddell, Evans, Purcell,Spencer, Watkins, Stokes, Cairns, Walker, Charles, Sutherland.)
ADV. Johnston's Menswear of Mornington. Bayside Electrical Service, Nepean Hwy, Rosebud West.
Hilltop Estate, Hughes Rd, near Koonya Beach, Archer Real Estate.
F.E.Wood, Real Estate, opposite lighthouse, Nepean Hwy. ( Wood St, between Eighth and Ninth Avenue, Is named after Forrest Edmond (Joe) Wood, a Flinders Shire councillor, who was very active regarding the foreshore and the new hall at Rosebud,lived in the McCrae Homestead. He probably operated his business, which also involved a store, from one of the shops near the pedestrian lights.)
Max Searle, furniture maker, 9 Gordon St, Mornington.
Littleton Bros., General Store and Newsagent, Nepean Hwy, Dromana.
N.M.Bartley, chemist, Sorrento.
Lynwood Dairy, A.J.Parker and Son, 15 Vancouver St, Mornington. Possibly members of the pioneering Parker family of Parkdale. If I remember correctly, there was a big dairy in Lyndhurst that replaced many small dairies when pasteurisation became a requirement and Lynwood implies a connection.
Sage's Cottage has been in the news lately with the Menzies Foundation ending its connection as an economy measure. In 1954, the cottage, "Eurutta" was still occupied by Thomas Holden Sage 83, and his sister, Miss Ellen Amynta Sage 87, who had lived in the cottage for almost 80 years.Their uncle was surveyor, Robert Hoddle, and Benjamin Baxter, whose Carrup Carrup homestead was demolished in about 1951, was their grandfather. The article discusses the involvement in the infant settlement of Melbourne of Ben Baxter and his wife, and momentoes such as John Batman's rocking chair and Hoddle's survey chain. The photo of the pair is of poor quality.
Harry McComb,the 91 year old son of Frankston's founder, Thomas McComb, told how Thomas had been the mate on a windjammer that sailed to Tasmania in 1833 but deserted his ship and married Grace in 1844 before later being attracted to Victoria by the goldrush and settling at Frankston to work as a fisherman. Grace was the area's midwife and walked miles with her babe in arms to gather support for a government school.
John McComb of Carrum/Seaford, who was almost certainly a descendant of Thomas, was the last to farm Hindhope at Rosebud circa 1913 and it is a pity that McCombe St near Rosebud Plaza was given the wrong spelling in the subdivision plan.
Arthurs Seat-Superb View has an unclear photo of Dromana and surrounds and discusses the naming and history of the mountain and the panorama it provides.
Redman's Timber and Hardware, Sorrento. The Oriental Hotel, Main St, Sorrento, R.J.&G.Popple.
Mornington Sports and Electrical, 110 Main St, Mornington.
Molyneux, frocks and hats by Arlene, Nepean Hwy, Rosebud,just near the hotel.
Arthur Moore, builder,78 Dandenong Rd, Frankston, established 1933.
Smith's Hardware, J.& V.Nettleton, Nepean Hwy, Rosebud.
G.S.Frean &Ride, timber and hardware, Barkly St, Mornington.
Mornington Peninsula Agricultural Society Annual Show 9-1-1954.
Sorrento's 1803 settlement. Mr.H.J.Leggett of "The Oaks", a fine old home near the settlement site, had spent 25 years since buying his property preserving the graves and collecting relics such as a 1793 cognac bottle and portions of the wooden casks that collected fresh water beneath the beach sand.The first birth,divine service, marriage, business, and burials in the (future)state involved the THORN,KNOPWOOD,HARVEY,GARRETT BLINKWORTH and SKILLMORE surnames.
William Buckley,the wild white man. Photo of Mrs Dennis (Leggett's grand daughter) of "The Oaks" holding spears that had come from Buckley's tribe. Contains a claim that Buckley was sleeping when discovered by the aborigines near Queenscliff. Without realising it, he was sleeping on the grave of an honoured chief, which in combination with his white skin, made the aborigines revere him.
To be continued in 1954 MORNINGTON PENINSULA SOUVENIR (3.)
ROSEMAN, TAYLOR, DEACON, ARMSTRONG, MASLEN, RIDDELL, EVANS, PURCELL, SPENCER, WATKINS,STOKES, CAIRNS, WALKER,CHARLES, SUTHERLAND, JOHNSTON, ARCHER, WOOD, SEARLE, LITTLETON, BARTLEY, PARKER, SAGE, HODDLE, BAXTER, McCOMB,REDMAN,POPPLE,MOORE, NETTLETON, FREAN, RIDE, LEGGETT,THORN,KNOPWOOD, HARVEY, GARRETT, BLINKWORTH, SKILLMORE, BUCKLEY,
I couldn't remember the name of the timber business that operated on lot 1 of the Hindhope Estate on the west corner of Pt Nepean Rd and First Avenue at Rosebud. But I knew exactly where I could find out. The answer is on page 24 of the souvenir and although not painted green in 1954, the building looks much the same now as when H.and J.Hancock were running their timber and hardware store.
An Argus Souvenir of THE PENINSULA ARGUS FREE PHOTOS
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 7 January 1954 p 17 Article Illustrated
As I scrolled through the pages, I realised that a summary of the contents, including advertisements, might be of value to family historians and local historians, who might not be directed to the souvenir on trove when they enter the surname being researched. The digitisation of "bronzed Peter Logan" which I pasted below,illustrates why trove will produce NO RESULTS when there could actually be many.Photos will not be mentioned unless they include named people or buildings.
ADV. Colortone Brick Ltd., Cranbourne Rd, Frankston. Peninsula Bus Lines Ltd.
ART. Happy memories of the bay with photos of camper surname signs at Rosebud, Diane Mahoney and Judith
Murray at Rosebud, and Maureen O'Sullivan and bronted Pater Logan at Mt Martha. (Maureen's companion was "bronzed Peter Logan"!)
ADV. Warner & Robertson, 66 Main St, Mornington (Real Estate). Rowley Bros, Rye and Flinders (Butchers.)
Penders Newsagency, Main St Mornington. F.Woodcock, watchmaker and jeweller, Nepean Hwy, Rye.
Patersons(electrical), 563-7 Bay St, Frankston, with pictures of fridge and washing machine models.
The Rye Pharmacy, S.S.Goble, between pier and post office, with Southern Peninsula Bookshop in the Pharmacy.
(Pauline Powell of the Rye Historical Society has written a detailed history of this shop and its proprietors.)
George E.Davies &Co. Real Estate, Nepean Hwy (next P.O.) Rosebud.
Rye Fruit Supply, S.& E.Gillies, Nepean Hwy, Rye. Wine at Ritchie's of Frankston.
ART. YACHTING. Need for safe anchorages-Frankston (Kananook)Creek the best but mouth silts up-clubs at Frankston (Fletcher, Steele, McConville), Mornington (Hall, Willey, Berry, Moorhead, Burriss), and Sorrento (Mrs E.Brabin).
ADV. E.H.Goss, builder, Sorrento and pictures of some of his buildings including Delgany and a Frankston church.
ART. Photos of Fletcher's yacht and scenes at Mornington pier with captions re fishing etc.
ADV. Sorrento Building Supply, Bowen Rd (no proprietors named.) Point Hardware and Joinery, 51 Main St, Mornington with picture of store (Prop. names possibly on sign.)
Powell motor body repairs, Phone Frankston 1709.
Hanton's Pharmacy of Frankston.
Bill Freeman's Saturday dances at The Phillip Ballroom, Pt Nepean Highway, Rosebud West.* ( This was on the site of the new service station on the west corner of Truemans Rd. It was later used as a roller skating rink. An excellent article about the ballroom and its proprietors appeared in the Rye Historical Society newsletter. It might have been the only ballroom on the peninsula at the time but Reg? Henderson operated a ballroom at some time in the Henderson Real Estate building on the west corner of Murray Anderson Rd at Rosebud.)
Norm Wood, shoe retailer, 104 Main St, Mornington. Mornington Ice and Cordial Works, 12 Garden St.
Harmsworth Stores (McCrae P.O., newsagency, drapery, hardware).
NU Peninsula Dry Cleaners, 111 Main St, Mornington.
Frankston Blind Co (manufacturers and retailers), 580 Bay St.
Come fishing (photo of Cynthia Bliss)with details and secrets about fishing. Old Ted McComb (photo), veteran fisherman who had rescued over 30 people on the bay, told of his rescues which involved Constable Stephenson, Gregory, Burton, Middleton, Grice.)
* RE "THE PHILLIP". The ballroom was not right on the Truemans Rd corner. The following, written by Dick Rowley who moved into 1839 Pt Nepean Rd, west of the ballroom,in 1955, was published in the July-September 2011 issue of the Rye Historical Society newsletter.
In 1946 John Ditchburn built a shop and residence for H.G.D.Maxwell at 1807 Point Nepean Road on the corner of Truemans Road, Tootgarook. The Maxwell family Gwynn and Blanche and children, Jeff, Merlin and Janice lived behind in the residence. The shop proved to be a success from the start with the locals, passing trade and campers. The shop was extended three times over the years. In 1951 the family moved and started a caravan park in Woyna Avenue. (Just across Truemans Rd.)
From 1951 to 1955 the Speakman family were the proprietors. Their daughter Jan worked in the shop and later married Chris Cairns. (No mention is made of who ran the store between 1955 and 1960.) The store was later run by Maurice and Shirley Joseph (1960-5)who had three children, and Merv and Shirley Drew (1865-73), whose children were Jeff, Janice, Annette, Jillian and Robyn. Later proprietors are detailed.
In 1960,a small shop was built between Max's Corner Store and the Phillip ballroom, and for two years it was operated as a cake shop by Mrs Garner and Mrs Foster.Keith and Gwen Found then ran it from 1963-5 as a fruit and vegetable shop, from there they moved to Rosebud where they opened Found's Furniture Shop.
Operating as a take-away food shop for the last ten years by Mark and Nina,it was demolished in 2010 revealing the Swallow's Biscuits and Medallion (lemonade)signs on the west wall of the original store.
I'm breaking this journal into parts to limit the number of surnames and prevent them disappearing from the surnames list. These are the surnames entered in the surname list:
MAHONEY,O'SULLIVAN,MURRAY,LOGAN,WARNER, ROBERTSON, ROWLEY,PENDER, WOODCOCK, PATERSON, GOBLE, POWELL, DAVIES, GILLIES, RITCHIE, FLETCHER, STEELE, McCONVILLE, HALL, WILLEY, BERRY, MOORHEAD, BURRISS, BRABIN, GOSS, HANTON,FREEMAN, HENDERSON,WOOD,HARMSWORTH, BLISS, McCOMB, STEPHENSON, GREGORY, BURTON,MIDDLETON,GRICE,
ROSEBUD AND GEELONG.
A connection between the two areas goes back to the first (brief) settlement of Victoria by the British Government near Sorrento in 1803. David Collins was in charge and used lack of fresh water as an excuse to relocate to Hobart where he would be less under the thumb of the Governor in Sydney.
One convict who was not relocated was William Buckley who had escaped and walked through Rosebud and around the Bay. The aborigines near Geelong thought he was a ghost, as their belief was that dead aborigines were white, and took him in as one of their own.
The next white men that Buckley saw, 32 years later, were lookouts posted at Indented Head near Portarlington by John Batman, including Jemmy Gumm (after whom Gumm's Corner at Keilor was named.) Some of the aborigines were plotting to murder them and Buckley's warning (in a language almost forgotten) saved their lives.
The next two connections involve the Cairns and Jennings families, original purchasers of Hindhope Estate lots.
In 1852, Boneo pioneer, Robert Cairns came out with his wife Mary (nee Drysdale) and her family. No prizes for guessing where the Drysdales settled. Some of Robert's relatives appear (from trove) to have also been involved on the west side of the bay. Two of Robert's relatives gained their nicknames because of their involvement at Rosebud, Back Road Bob of Fernvilla near Bayview Rd and Rosebud Ted.
George Jennings (Dod) was born at Drysdale in 1857 and playedfooty for Geelong in the 1870's. He married Hannah Wiffen in 1879 and they had seven children. Affected by the 1890's depression he lost his land as so many did and the family became nomads, farming at Flinders (where his son married Catherine Tuck), Cranbourne and Camperdown, before settling at Kariah in 1914. This 212 acre farm fronted Dundas St, Browns Rd and Weeroona St. After onion growing failed, the family changed to dairying, later expanding into Rosebud. The wooden statue on the east corner of Rosebud Pde (outside the former dairy) gives some extra detail mentioning the later dairy site at Jennings Court (Melway169 K7.)
Other connections between the two sides of the bay involve the wooden boat building Laccos, William Ferrier (hero of the La Bella tragedy at Warrnambool in 1905), both subjects of my journals, the east side fishermen dispatching their catches to Melbourne by rail from Queenscliff and several pioneer fishermen at Flinders coming from Queenscliff.
Joe Peters the black fiddler, a native of the Cape Verde Islands off the westernmost point of Africa also moved across the bay from Rosebud. Many natives of this Portugese territory were involved in lime burning on both sides of the bay.
Information about crown allotment 14, section A,Wannaeue, the farms (Hindhope, The Thicket) and the subdivision of Hindhope can be found in my EARLY ROSEBUD and HINDHOPE ESTATE (Part 1) journals.
The dates below come from title documents and addresses from the 1919 assessment.
Lots 36-39 fronted Boneo Rd,each having frontages just over 50 feet. They now comprise the car park over McCombe St from Red Rooster and Gloria Jeans. Much of Charlie Burnham's lot 39 has been taken for the left turn lane from Boneo Rd,obviously the reason Red Rooster relocated from that site.
Lots 36 and 37, adjoining the fishing gear and furniture/giftware shops, had a frontage of 107 feet 4 inches and the title was transferred from the developer,Arthur A.Thomas to Norman Pern of Fairfield, N.S.W. on 14-1-1915.
Norm also bought lots 30 and 31 (discussed in part 1) and was assessed on all four lots in 1919.
Lot 38 had a frontage of 53 feet 8 inches,practically to the McCombe St kerb where cars turn left. The title was transferred to William Thomas Charge (whose address in 1919 I forgot to record)on 16-5-1916.
Lot 39 had frontages of 53 feet 5 inches to Boneo Rd and 220 feet 10 inches to the north side of McCombe St. Charles Burnham gained title to this block on 31-3-1926. Charles and his brother, Walter, were fishermen who moved from Sorrento to Rosebud in about 1913. Walter built a house on the foreshore at the end of Boneo Rd and the brothers built a jetty from ti-tree nearby. This jetty appealed to a teenaged Arthur Boyd, who became a famed artist and the 1995 Australian of the Year. Arthur painted the jetty from the east and from the west. Photos of the jetty can be seen in Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD which is available for loan. One shows Arthur's painting and the other Lois Burnham (Walter's daughter and Peter's mother) sitting on the jetty as a youngster.
Steve Burnham's website contains Vin Burnham's recollections of Rosebud in the early days. Click on ABOUT THE FAMILY.
McCOMBE ST BLOCKS (North side.)
All blocks to First Avenue have frontages to McCombe St of 50 feet except for lot 70 which was only 32 feet 9 inches wide. Many blocks are now part of the car park so I will describe what they adjoin in lots 1-33, such as the Op Shop etc.
LOT DATE (TITLE) BUYER 1919 ADDRESS BUILDINGS/CHANGES IN 1919.
40 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick
41 7-9-1915 David Phillips Brunswick
42 9-1-1948 Jessie Elizabeth Lightfoot ---
43 9-1-1948 J.E.Lightfoot ---
44 Perhaps trans. to Denzal Clyde Victor Purser 3-7-1954 and sold 13-8-1958./ Chas Cairns,Boneo 29, 45.
45 1-3-1916 Robert Cairns the Younger / Forsyth and Sons lots 28,45,46.
46 8-2-1915. Annie Cath. Anderson / Forsyth and Sons
47 9-8-1923 Ethel May Short --- /Not assessed
48 3-7-1918 Mary Ann Peatey *1 /Not assessed
49 12-2-1937 Margaret Emma Price Stone*2 /Mrs S.R.Stone, Richmond,49,50
50 12-2-1937 M.E.P.Stone /As above.
51 18-6-1946 JENNINGS (Gladys Iris, Fred Rowland,Walt. Herb., Gord. Rob.) / Not assessed
52 10-8-1923 Lily McBean --- / Not assessed
53 10-8-1923 Lily McBean --- / Not assessed
54 11-5-1920 Charles Roger Marsh /J.N? Marsh,Pt Ormond>Brighton Nth, 54, 55, BDS.
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55 16-9-1920 William Dixon Marsh /As above
56 18-8-1941 Georgina Emma Saunders --- / Not assessed
57 Probably unsold and transferred to executors of A.A.Thomas on/after 5-2-1945.No.on plan but not on transfer details.
58 7-2-1922 Margaret Agnes Mott --- / Not assessed
59 27-7-1929 Benjamin John Forsyth --- / Not assessed
60 27-7-1929 Dorothy Pretoria McAlister --- / Not assessed A sis.of Ben and Norm?
61 27-7-1929 Norman Forsyth --- / Not assessed
62 6-6-1950 John Hector Beattie --- / Marg. Ethel Beattie,Brunswick.
63(& 10) 4-9-1915 Harriet Harvie --- / Margaret Harvey, Northcote, 10,63
64 18-12-1917 Annie Catherine Sampson --- / E.Martin*3, Coburg> Rosebud, 7, 8 &BDS, 64,65
Annie Catherine Sampson of St Kilda was assessed on 9 and 64!
65 8-6-1924 John McGregor Dawson --- / E.Martin above
66 8-6-1924 J.McG. Dawson --- Due to the duplication re 64,E.Martin probably had 65 & 66.
67 10-12-1919 Susannah Hansford Canterbury (Could mean in Melb. but possibly Blairgowrie.)
68 23-2-1921 Gladys Ethel Morton --- / Not assessed
69 23-2-1921 Gladys Ethel Morton --- /Not assessed
70 1-9-1916 James Dunstan Page Armadale Frontage of only 32 feet 9 inches.
The distance between Pt Nepean Rd and McCombe St was 400 feet so the depth of blocks fronting each was 200 feet. Some Pt Nepean Rd lots seem to have been re-subdivided with some buildings straddling allotment boundaries. As many of the McCombe St lots are now car parking, I will describe what I can see 200 feet away at the back of the Pt Nepean Rd blocks in order to describe their locations. I will start from Rose St and work west and east to determine the 50 foot frontage blocks, the eastern end of Charlie Burnham's lot 39 and the western boundary of lot 70. Apart from those at each end, the lots have 50 foot frontages (roughly 17 paces); this might help if you have difficulty finding some of the boundaries, such as wall joins in the Safeway building.
LOCATIONS OF LOTS.
Lots 36 to 39, each with a frontage to Boneo Rd of about 53 foot, had side boundaries from 142 feet 11 inches (at the boundary with Total Tackle, Jepara and Panini) to 220 feet 10 inches (the McCombe St frontage of lot
39.)The increase in depths was due to the differing angles of the lot boundaries and Boneo Rd. Lot 39 is now the left turn lane (W) and the east-west section to the bend near the car park entry (E). The eastern boundary of lots 36-9 backs onto the Panini building 10 feet west of its eastern corner.
40. Backs onto the car parking outside the chemist etc and goes west 10 feet past the Panini corner.
41. Backs onto car park two way road (W)and plantation east to no entry sign (E).
42. Backs onto western 2m of Safeway building and entry drive from Pt Nepean Rd, to the NO ENTRY sign.
43. Backs onto Safeway wall from redundant air conditioner downpipe (W) to wall join under floodlight(E).
44. Backs onto Safeway building between two wall joins under floodlight (W)and 24 feet (8 paces)west of loading dock yellow pole (E).
45. Backs onto Safeway loading dock ramp (E) and the dock building to bend in wall (E).
46. Backs onto loading dock building from wall bend/join (W) to east end of Safeway.
47. Backs onto Op Shop (W)and the (Nepean) arcade (E).
48. Backs onto Rosebud Discounts (W) and shop 2, 1395 Pt Nepean Rd (presently vacant) (E).
49. Backs onto Rosebud Homemakers and entry drive to east kerb.
50. Backs onto east kerb of entry drive (W) and Paint Place yard (E).
51. Backs onto yard with David Short signs on fence.
52. Backs onto Roller door (W) and Founds shop front. (E). The roller door part was formerly a separate shop.
53. Backs onto yard full of containers and mattresses, obviously the part of Founds rendered at the front.
54. West corner Rose St, backs onto Cash Deal.
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55. East corner Rose St, contains Bermuda Bar, and Rose St shops (all vacant.)
56. Barry Plant and car park.
57. Sportspower and car parking.
58. Aldi loading dock.
59. Rest of Aldi building east to line of spouting.
60. East to drain pit cover in nature strip 2m west of Aldi entry/Exit drive.
61. The eastern quarter of the Aldi property to the boundary with First Choice.
62. Adjoins back of western part of First Choice.
63. 14 McCombe St (Rosebud Chiropractic Centre.)
64. West half of vacant land behind Rosebud Square.
65. East half of vacant land behind Rosebud Square.
66. 8 McCombe St to middle of driveway between it and a line of 4 flats.
67. The four flats.
68. Barkies entry drive and the western 3 parking bays.
69. The next six parking bays,perhaps another half bay.Contains telecommunication tower and enclosure.
70. First Avenue corner. Roughly the 4 eastern parking spaces, Nepean Autos and Hotline Electrics.
*1. Mary Ann Peatey married Jack Peatey on 4-11-1884. Their children, John Edward,William Henry,Susan and George were all born in Gippsland and shortly after they returned to Rosebud to live on the beachfront in 1894, twins Mary and Ann were born. They called their house Beachside; it was on the east side of Peatey's Creek which is now a drain running under Murray Anderson Rd. As Jack was almost an invalid,using a walking stick carved for him by Fred Vine, it was mainly Mary Ann who established Rosebud's first produce supply on the Rosebud Fishing Village block. Jack's health improved and he took out fishing parties in his huge coutta boat, one of his best customers being Edward Campbell a Melbourne City Councillor who served as Lord Mayor and had a holiday house on former Lacco land where the Banksia Point development is proposed. Jack and Mr Wong perpetrated a hoax on the Rosebud folk according to Jim Dryden. He pretended his eyes were turned and Mr Wong of the Chinaman's Creek market-gardening family made a hood with slits where his eyes should focus, effecting a miraculous cure.
Jack's parents, George and Susan Peatey, had been settlers on the Survey (Safety Beach area)by 1858 and later bought 100 acres at the east corner of Harrisons Rd (Melway 160 K6) now occupied by wineries. It proved too wet for farming and with a loan from Nelson Rudduck they purchased lot 76 of Woolcott's subdivision,just over 2 acres at the south corner of Jetty Rd and McDowell St. Here they grew onions and spuds from 1888 after repaying the loan.The house burnt down in 1912 and Susan moved to Beachside where she died in 1914.Susan was involved as a midwife in what was thought to be the first birth of a white child in Rosebud, delivering Henry and Ann Bucher's Rose Ann on 8-9-1867. ("Pine Trees and Box Thorns" Rosalind Peatey; Jim Dryden.)
Mary Ann would have bought the Hindhope Block as the best way of utilising the profits from Beachside about which an unknown pioneer (possibly Isabelle Moresby)has noted on the map "Peatys, cows:dairy,poultry slept in trees". Now that's what I call free-range!
*2. The Stones of Richmond may have been related to Fred Vine's wife and daughter. Fred's loyal missus was obviously a widow with a young daughter when Fred married her. After her death Fred moved to a fisherman's hut on the foreshore at Dromana, roughly opposite Seacombe St. The stepdaughter answered to Mary Stone or Mary Vine and Peter Wilson devoted a chapter of ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD to "Polly" Vine, including an excellent photo of her. Fred's move and Mary using Mary B.Stone as her official name probably both arose from the same cause, which is better left unsaid but can be discovered on trove. Some wonderful photos of Dromana fishermen in Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA include Fred.
*3. E.Martin was probably the proprietor of a shop on the west corner of Boneo Rd (which became known as Martin's Corner.) He probably bought the 5 acre site which now includes the Blue Mini Cafe,a couple of shops to the west and possibly south to the Super Clinic. He may have sold the Hindhope blocks soon after the 1919 assessment to buy the Martin's Corner Land and build his shop which was established in about 1920 according to the late Ray Cairns.
The photo from Steve Burnham's website was taken from the west side of Boneo Rd, probably from near the site of the present Super Clinic. It shows Charlie Burnham's house fronting Boneo Rd and the fish shop behind it on the north side of McCombe St. Red Rooster later occupied the site but was moved to the present location so the left turn lane could be built. On the right hand side of McCombe St is a Hindhope sign.
WHEN JOHNNY, THE ABORIGINAL BOY, DIED NEAR THE McCRAE HOMESTEAD SOME TIME BEFORE 1851, THE LAD'S FATHER TRIED TO BRING HIM BACK TO LIFE BY BLOWING INTO HIS MOUTH. (I SUCCEEDED ONCE, Marie Hansen Fels.) THE BOON-WURRUNG OBVIOUSLY USED MOUTH TO MOUTH!
In 1954, James Elam was the first to demonstrate experimentally that cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) was a sound technique and, with Dr. Peter Safar, he demonstrated its superiority to previous methods. Peter Safar wrote the book ABC of resuscitation in 1957. In the United States, it was first promoted as a technique for the public to learn in the 1970s.
John Townsend(or perhaps his father) may have been one of the first people in Victoria to save a life using mouth to mouth resuscitation about 70 years before the technique was introduced in Australia.
In A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, Colin McLear wrote the following about John Townsend.
P. 74. John Townsend (1840-1918) seems to have been a jack-of-all-trades. At one time he farmed where a Rosebud golf course is now situated on the slopes of Arthurs Seat. He also built houses and ran an early store in Dromana,in what had been George McLear's butchers shop. He lived on the (south)corner of Ligar and McCulloch Street opposite the State School,in what old-timers call Townsend's. The old house still stands. John is believed to have shot the last dingo on the Peninsula on the Anderson property (Barragunda)at Boneo (Cape Schanck).
John helped Simon,commonly called "Simon the Belgian" fence his land on the side of Arthurs Seat.
P.84.Charlie Dyson married a daughter of John Singleton and one of their children became Mrs John Townsend.(Does this tie in?)
P.120. John Townsend was one of the bondsmen for a loan of 300 pounds to build St Mark's Church of England in Dromana.
P. 126. An entry in George McLear's notebooks in 1880 advises that Townsend paid 35 pounds for the church....John Townsend was a man of many parts, among them a sometime builder. Perhaps he had a contract to re-erect the church...
(The above relates to the relocation of the Methodist Church from a site in Heales St to the Esplanade.)
MOUTH TO MOUTH.
Harold Wilson, eldest son of Mr and Mrs H. W. Wilson. of M'Culloch street, Dromana, had a very narrow escape from drowning last Saturday week. It appears the little fellow, in company with a small lad named Stanley Evans, was playing on the banks of a waterhole close to where Mr. Wilson is erecting his new slaughter house, and in some way he slipped into the hole, which had at least 5 feet of water in it. The other boy being un- able to render his unfortunate play mate any assistance, had the presence of mind to run down to where Mr Townsend and the Messrs Wilsons were at work, and informed them what had happened. They immediately hurried to the hole. Seeing no trace of the child, the father plunged in, and succeeded in bringing to the surface what he considered was the lifeless body of his son. However, Mr Townsend,who acted with judgment,was quickly at work, vigorously blowing his warm breath into the little fellow's lungs, until he slowly began to regain consciousness. Mr.G.M'Lear, who lives close to where the accident happened, was sent for, and rendered valuable assistance, but had it not been for the artificial respiration resorted to by Mr Townsend, it is doubtful whether the boy would have recovered.(P.5, Mornington Standard,10-12-1904.)
The wikipedia entry for Mouth to mouth resuscitation describes how it was developed in 1957 and was promoted in the U.S.A in the 1970's.
John Townsend's grants near Rosebud were crown allotments 31D and 31C,section B in the parish of Wannaeue. The former, consisting of 37 acres 1 rood 15 perches is bounded by Bayview/Old Cape Schank Rd,roughly the north-south part of Leura Crescent and Waterfall Gully Rd. The latter, of 100 acres and 2 perches adjoined it on the east and extended to the full length of Rosebud Avenue.(Melway 170 G 4-5.)
Early Horton Tasmania Settlers
and family from around the world
Birth: 1865 Dromana, Vic, Australia (More...)
Death: 1923 Melbourne, Vic, Australia (More...)
Father: John Townsend
Mother: Allison Mitchell
Partner: Susannah Caroline Hanson (1864-1906)
Marriage: 1887 Dromana, Vic, Australia (More...)
Elsie Townsend (1890-)
Jessie Allison Townsend (1892-)
Ellen Carolina Townsend (1893-)
John Leonard Townsend (1894-1951)
Arthur Gould Townsend (1899-)
It is possible that Susannah Caroline Hanson was a niece of Christian Hanson,who in 1887 was first assessed on one of William Hopcraft's grants in the parish of Balnarring on the east side of Tucks Rd at its northern end.
Hec Hanson's MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN makes it clear that she was not Christian's daughter. Her father or brother was possibly Charles Hanson,who with John Townsend was a member of an early dramatic company in Dromana, the Black Gulls. (Harry Wilson,probably the father of the boy saved by John Townsend, and George Townsend were also member.) The Townsends of Mornington may be related.
FLINDERS AND KANGERONG
[Present, Crs Downward, (president), Baldry, Brown, Griffiths, Hurley, Wilson and Stanley.
The Council sat as a Revision Court for the purpose of revising the voters' lists. The applications of T. M.
Dorley. and John A. Crichton were entertained. Those of Alfred P.Beecher and Charles Hanson, were disallowed.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 4-8-1892.)
EXCERPT FROM "Old Peninsula Days, Plays and Players"
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 21 February 1946 p 9 Article.
Mr. Harry Wilson. As a ? to these items was "Uncle Tom's Cabin in Five Minutes," the parts? in which were played by Mr. John Townsend (Simon Legree),Mr Chas. Hanson (Uncle Tom), and Mr Fred. Mellor (Little Eva).
Can you help, do you have any idea where the Shoreham creamery was, I believe it worked in conjunction with the Mornington butter factory?
AROUND SHOREHAM. SOME PROPERTIES DESCRIBED.
(By Our Special Reporter.)
On the road from Flinders to the Bittern railway station, which is so much travelled by holiday makers in the summer season, the peaceful little valley on the banks of Stony Creek always attract considerable attention. For natural advantages this spot would be hard to beat, and the owners of the trim homesteads and rich well grassed farms in the vicinity have every reason to congratulate themselves. Here, in the vicinity of creeks which have never failed to provide a plentiful water supply throughout the longest drought on record, it is difficult to imagine the desolation and havoc which has existed in many parts of the State during the past season.
On the southern bank of the creek, and on the opposite side of the main road to the Shoreham creamery,
MR MICHAEL BYRNE
has about 151 acres of land. The thick sward of good grass which, on this and the adjoining properties, was little effected by the late spell of dry weather, would certainly be a feast to the eyes of a farmer from the northern parts of the State. Dairying occupies Mr Byrne's attention, and beyond growing the usual fodder crops he does not engage extensively in cultivation. A small paddock of rich deep chocolate soil some distance from the homestead yielded (on the estimate of several local farmers) nearly 3 tons of hay to the acre, which considering that the past season was counted one of the worst ever known in the district, can certainly be said to be a good crop.
Mr Byrne has also 136 acres detached from the homestead block.
MRS JAMES BYRNES.
On the other side of Stony Creek, Mrs James Byrne has about 310 acres (etc.) (P.4, Mornington Standard, 23-5-1903.)
Stony Creek is the boundary between the parishes of Balnarring (east) and Flinders (west.) The Merricks Station was at Melway 192 F9, so the road between Flinders and the station was that known as the Frankston-Flinders Rd which crosses Stony Creek at Melway 256 E8.
The Byrnes were granted much land east of Stony Creek but no grants consisted of, or totalled, nearly 151 acres, or could have been over the road from anything south of the creek.
The Flinders parish map shows that James Byrne was granted crown allotment 22 of section A, consisting of 151 acres 2 roods and 18 perches. Having a 581 metre frontage to Tucks Rd and extending east to Stony Creek it was at Melway 256 B-D, 6, and the top half of 7. The northern boundary went from the Tucks Rd bend in 256 B6 to the south west corner of the Guides' "Iluka" Camp.
Between this grant and Higgins Lane (the northern boundary of Martin Higgins' c/a 24) was Edmond Riley's c/a 23 with the "road to the station" in Melway 256 C 9 (part) and 8 (to the creek) being the southern two thirds of its eastern boundary and Stony Creek the northern third (to where the creek intersects the left side of E7.)
The correspondent was slightly out in his description because James Byrne's grant fell about 100 metres short of fronting the road to the station; he probably thought the fence divided paddocks rather than properties.
Bounded by the road to the station on the west (and thus across the road "to the station" from what the correspondent took to be Michael Byrne's land), Stony Creek on the north east (enabling the creamery to be correctly described as being south of the creek) and Higgins Lane east of the main road were crown allotments 8 and 9 (of the township of Balnarring.)
Crown allotment 8 of 2 acres 3 roods and 7 perches fronting the creek crossing was granted to E.Riley and c/a 9 of 4.3.30 fronting the north side of Higgins Lane was granted to M.Higgins,both grants being issued on 9-7-1869.
Thank goodness I used a magnifying glass to read the dates! The southern boundary of c/a 9 was not Higgins Lane but a line bearing e/n/e from the corner with c/a 9A between this and the lane, consisting of 1.3.10 and granted to J.Bayne on 19-9-1871. The Baynes had much land near Joseph Simpson's Seaview and when Shoreham Rd was realigned the old course was named after the family (Melway 191 A 6-8.)
The creamery operated from about 1898.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 14 May 1904 Edition: MORNING. p 2 Article
... the genial manager of the Shoreham creamery, afforded his friends in the district an opportunity of ... happy pair,- Mr M. Higgins, on behalf the suppliers of the creamery and other friends of M'r ... presentation, Mr Higgins remarked that about six -years ago, when the creamery was opened, the company could ... 421 words
The manager of the creamery, Joseph Turner, was the son of James Turner, a councillor of the Frankston and Hastings Shire, who is mentioned in my SARAH WILSON or GEORGE YOUNG journals (information from Petronella Wilson's GIVING DESTINY A HAND.) James was granted c/a 51 and 48 of the parish of Bittern (MELWAY 153 E-H 9-10) and his father c/a 29, 28AB and 27B on the part of Loders Rd now covered by the Devil Bend Reservoir.
In accordance with the description, it can be stated with fair certainty that the Shoreham Creamery was at the intersection of Melway 256, E8, E9, F8 and F9, on all or part of the land bounded by the Frankston -Flinders Rd, Stony Creek and Higgins Lane. This location is:
(a) (almost) across the road from Michael Byrne's grant of 151 acres;
(b) on the south bank of Stony Creek;
(c) across (west of) the creek from Mrs James Byrne's " about" 310 acres. Her land probably consisted of c/a 62, Balnarring granted to James Byrne, c/a 60 granted to Martin Byrne and 61A granted to J.Byrne, which, consisting of 134.3.8, 129.2.33 and 50.2.38, total 313 acres 0 roods 39 perches (about 310.)
P.S.1. There are no 136 acre crown allotments nearby in the parishes of Flinders and Balnarring so it is possible that Edmund Riley had subdivided c/a 23 and Edmund had bought part of it near the Stony Creek crossing which would explain the reporter's apparent error. It is also possible that he had bought some of Henry Tuck's Manton's Creek pre-emptive right.
2. It is possible that the reporter was not saying that the creamery was on the south bank of the creek but in this case he should have said that Michael Byrne's 151 acres were on the other side of the roadand the creek from the creamery.If that was what he meant,the creamery would have been on c/a 1-3 and 5-7 of the Balnarring Township granted to the Baynes and c/a 4 granted to William Allison Blair, a lime merchant who owned much land in the parishes of Wannaeue and Nepean. This part of the township was bounded by Byrne Rd on the north west, Prout Webb Rd and the creek.
An hour transcribing assessments for the Hindhope Estate (1919-20) has resulted in the need for three new journals about this estate, Keith McGregor and Thomas Waldron of the parish of Moorooduc.
I have stated in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal that Keith McGregor married Mabel Adams of Hopetoun House (Wattle Place near the McCrae Car Wash site)(1), that he had a farm at Fingal near Hill Harry Cairns' Maroolaba (2), and that he lived for a time on The Thicket at Rosebud (2). I also mentioned that he sold his carrier business, which he had bought from Carrier Harry Cairns, to Mabel's brother, Billy.(3)
1. Harvey Marshall's scrapbook-Adams genealogy.
2. The late Ray Cairns. 3. The Cairns Family of Boneo, written by Peter Wilson using Ray's information.
When I interviewed Ray Cairns ten days after he turned 100, I gained only a general idea where Keith farmed at Fingal. I was slightly puzzled when Ray said that Keith did not have much land at The Thicket. Now everything is clear due to a check that I did after transcribing the Hindhope rates.
When I was transcribing the Shire of Flinders rates from August 2010 to the end of that year, Keith McGregor meant nothing to me, and I was confining myself to assessments in the parishes of Wannaeue and Kangerong. Therefore, I did not notice the following:
286. Malcolm and Keith McGregor of Cape Schanck (crossed out and replaced by somebody whose name might have been Ham (of Coolart) and a whole lot of indecipherable scribble that was supposed to describe his land. This was obviously the time that Keith moved to The Thicket,but the most immediate need was to find which land the McGregor Bros. farmed at Fingal.
1918-19. 2515. Malcolm and Keith McGregor, Cape Schanck 995 acres and buildings,crown allotments 11, 14, 15, Fingal.
These crown allotments comprised 320 acres, 355.0.33 and 320.3.32, a total of 996 acres 0 roods and 25 perches so that was as accurate as a rate collector was likely to be. Melway references for these crown allotments are:
c/a 11, fronting the east side of Truemans Rd directly opposite the St Andrews Club Gunnamatta course (same northern and southern extent)and east to include the left half of 252 J 8-9;
c/a 14, fronting the east side of Truemans Rd, 252,D-J (left half)10-11, south of c/a 11;
c/a 15, includes the right half of 252 J 10-11, the northern boundary (south boundary of Ace Hi) ending at the junction of Boneo and Old Cape Schanck Rds and the southern boundary an extension of c/a 14's to Boneo Rd.
And now to The Thicket. Crown allotment 14, Wannaeue of just over 114 acres is bounded by Eastbourne , Boneo,
and Pt Nepean Rds and First Avenue (Melway 170 B2.) The grantee, Hugh Glass of Flemington, acquired c/a 16 as well by 1964 but scab among his millions of sheep and losses on the private Essendon railway caused his Wannaeue holding to fall from 231 to 100 acres by the time of his "accidental" overdose. The property seems to have been subdivided by Hugh's creditors into farms of 29+29+20+20+16 acres. The first two were consolidated as Hindhope by Eleanore and Gregory Brennan Rigg and included all Hope St house blocks and 50 First Avenue. The last three became Ramsay and Nora Couper's The Thicket, now occupied by The Drive, Warranilla, Woombi,Koorong etc.
As mentioned previously, Keith McGregor had left Fingal by the time of the 1919 assessment. But how could he have lived in the homestead of the Thicket when Alf Rawlings was rated on the farm and buildings in 1919? Alf Rawlings (death notice in my EARLY ROSEBUD journal)had moved away. In view of Ray Cairns' belief that Keith only had the homestead (and probably a homestead block, the garden and the garage for the T Model van that he used to convey passengers to the Mornington railhead),Alf was still visiting occasionally to tend to his farm.
But where would Alf stay? The answer is provided in the 1919 rates. A note scribbled, but not in the column where land was described,saying lots 95,96 A. I did not transcribe it in 2010 because it made no sense. I now know exactly where that land was. It was at the south east corner of Hindhope, its southern boundary being that of 50 First Avenue with, its northern boundary extending 20 feet along the south side of Hope St. And why would Alf want another 1 acre 1 rood and 39 perches of land when he had 57 acres(the Thicket)one step to the south?
The house of course!
Keith McGregor was renting the Thicket homestead from Alf and Alf was renting the Hindhope homestead from Alexander Mackie Younger. When Keith and his brother left about a year later to try wheat growing (see my EARLY ROSEBUD journal), Keith did not stay away long. It may be that he and Mabel went with Malcolm to get him established, or perhaps Mabel pined for her family and friends at Rosebud.Annie Cameron of 167 Gipps St, who'd bought lots 95 and 96 on 9-1-1923, sold it to Keith McGregor of Rosebud on 12-3-1926. Keith mortgaged it to Alexander mackieYounger on 30-12-1926 and the mortgage was discharged on 31-3-1927,on which day Keith must have sold the property to Gilbert Livingstone Culliford, Gentleman, of Ivanhoe.
THIS JOURNAL WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE RED CROSS!
Well, sort of, anyway. If I hadn't collected for Red Cross,I wouldn't have asked the owner of 50 First Avenue about the house and been invited inside to see its period features, or carried out my investigations to get the old homestead heritage listed.The entry (lots95, 96)for Alf Rawlings still wouldn't have made sense, I still wouldn't have known exactly when Keith McGregor lived in the Thicket homestead and I wouldn't have known that Keith Mcgregor owned Lots 95 and 96 (the homestead block for the Hindhope Villa, 50 First Avenue.)