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ANY HISTORY BOARDS MADE WOULD CONTAIN BRIEF SUMMARIES OF THE INFORMATION THAT FOLLOWS, AS WELL AS MAPS (SUCH AS THE SUBDIVISION PLAN OF THE CLARKE ESTATE ON THE SURVEY AND DROMANA'S FIRST GOLF COURSE) AND PHOTOS.
Melway references are used.
1. 159 K5, Pt Nepean Rd footpath.
A. Safety Beach , CLARKE AND BRUCE (Maria Stenniken and Godfrey Wilson,)THE SEA LANE),PIER SITE, RHYMER, GOLF (CLUB HOUSE), SUBDIVISION SALES (Plan)AND SCORN, SPEED TRIALS(HOSPITAL, MR BEAN/Rev. H.W.Taylor)
Edward Hobson was the first pioneer on what became Jamieson's Special Survey (Safety Beach area and east to the line of Bulldog Creek Rd.) Like most settlers on the peninsula, he was a friend to the Boon-wurrung people.Marie Hansen Fels in I SUCCEEDED ONCE (available free on the internet)details the three camps in the area, one of which was by Edward's homestead. George Smith, a de facto relative of Edward-which Marie explains, was also a great mate to the aborigines and took one of them to America.Marie's book explains that Chief Protector Robinson's tardiness in allowing William Thomas to get the Boon-wurrung to Kangerong,away from Melbourne's vices, diseases introduced by early sealers and the boon-wurrung reluctance to produce babies when "no more home" were the causes of the demise of these friendly* people. (* When the ship carrying John Aitken's sheep was beached in Dromana Bay, they helped him carry them all to shore.)
Luckily Edward had moved, to what later was called Tootgarook by Peter Purves, before Hugh Jamieson bought his Special Survey. His new run may have been more attractive because of what was under the ground- lime! He built a kiln near Mark Avenue,just west of today's Rosebud Plaza. Before long, Edward was off to Tarwin River and then Traralgon to establish a run for his brother, Dr Edmund Hobson, which he gave a name meaning river of little fish (Traralgon.) While he was away, George Smith may have occupied that area (Tootgarook) and called it Wooloowoolooboolook; 4 year old Sarah Ann Cain was taken to Smith's homestead when she was found after being lost in the bush for four days.
Jamieson did not spend much time on his survey but enough to have social contact with other early settlers such as Captain Reid (on what became Balcolme's The Briars)and the McCraes on the Arthur's Seat Run. Somebody who did live there was Mrs Newby. On 15-2-1844, Captain Reid and his wife, Hugh Jamieson and Georgiana McCrae and hubby, Andrew, visited the Survey, meeting Mrs Newby and her two daughters. Mrs Newby complained of loneliness during Captain Newby's absences at sea. On 27-7-1845,Andrew told Georgiana about the three Newby children drowning. (P. 30 A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.) Was this true? Yes!
SHIPWRECKS. LOSS OF THE MARY. By the steamer Shamrock, which arrived here on Sunday, the distressing intelligence has been received of the total wreck of the barque Mary, Captain Newby, from this port to London in Bass's Straits; and we are sorry to add that no less than seventeen of her passengers have perished. The Mary left Sydney for London on the 19th of May, having on board 69 souls, including the crew, and a very valuable cargo. It was intended by the owners that she should proceed by the usual course round Cape Horn, and the Mary stood away to the southward for that purpose, but when she was off Cape Howe, the wind being at east south-east, with every appearance of a continuance from the same quarter, Captain Newby determined to attempt the westerly passage, notwithstanding the unpromising time of the year, and accordingly stood into Bass's Straits for that purpose. On the morning of the 24th May, the Mary was off Wilson's Promontory, when the wind suddenly died away, and at 10 A. M. a strong breeze sprung up from the northwest, and gradually increased to a gale with heavy rain. Thinking he had now got into a westerly wind, the captain determined to give up the westerly passage, and accordingly bore up and ran to the southward of Sir Roger Curtis' and Kent's Groups. At 6 P. M. he estimated the ship's position to be five miles south of the body of Kent's Group, fixed her course at east by north, and having been up the two previous nights, the captain went to bed, there being then a breeze from the north- west, which was sending the ship seven knots per hour. The chief mate had the watch from 8 to 12; about 11 he called the captain, saying he thought " land was handy ;" but upon the captain going upon deck, he could not see any land, and found that it was almost a calm. Broken water, however, was soon discovered off the lee beam,and a strong current was rapidly driving the ship towards it. There was no wind to make the ship answer her helm, she refused stays and drove broadside onto the rock. She first touched on the starboard bilge, then under the fore chains, and immediately parted abaft the foremast, the bows slipping off the rock into deep water; she then struck abaft, unshipped her rudder, and the topsides floated off the bottom,over the reef into smooth water. In seven minutes from the time she struck, the ship was in pieces. The most melancholy part remains to be told. Seventeen women and children were drowned and what is most extraordinary is, that not a mast was lost. Those drowned were-three of Captain Newby's daughters; six children of Mrs. Evans; Augusta and Catherine, daughters of Captain Collins, of Illawarra ; Mrs Heather, and two children, Mrs. Grey, Mrs. Turnbull, and Sarah Foulkes, servant to Mrs. Collins. How the remainder were saved we cannot understand. Captain Newby only remarks," we were saved in the long boat in the most wonderful manner." The above parties were lost in consequence of the upsetting of the whale boat, into which they had been lowered, but it has not been ascertained how this accident occurred. The reef upon which the Mary was lost lies to the north east of a rock described in the Australian Directory as Wright's rock, about three and a half miles, and is known to the sealers who visit Furneaux's Island as the north east or deep reef. etc.
(P.3, Mornington Chronicle, Sydney, 25-6-1845.)
Henry Dunn, after whom Dunns Rd (which runs from Mornington to Mt Martha) was named,leased the survey from 1846 until 1851. In the history of Osborne Primary School Leslie Moorhead stated that he also leased James Hearn's run concurrently with the survey with the two properties known as the Mt Martha Sheep Station; thus Henry had the survey, which near the coast had the same boundaries as Safety Beach, and the land north of Ellerina Rd to Balcombe Creek.
James Hearn was related in some way to William John Turner Clarke (Big Clarke)who eventually bought the survey; Big Clarke died at Hearn's house (near today's Salmon Avenue in Essendon.) Bruce,supposedly Clarke's son in law, was supposed to have received (AS A WEDDING PRESENT)the northern 1000 or so acres of the survey, between boundaries indicated by Martha Cove Waterway and Ellerina/Bruce/Foxey's Rd, as a wedding present according to A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA but I have not found evidence of the claimed relationship and LIME LAND LEISURE claims that Clarke,who bought the survey in parts, sold the northern portion to Bruce at a profit.
Bruce was John Vans Agnew Bruce, who, like Big Clarke and James Hearn, was personally involved in the area near Essendon. He was a partner in the big contracting firm of Cornish and Bruce, which built the Mt Alexander (Castlemaine) and Murray River Railway to (and some unknown distance past)Sunbury. A search, discussed in my journal about Bob Chalmers' HERITAGE WALK IN ASCOT VALE WEST, failed to find any direct relationship between John Vans Agnew Bruce and Big Clarke or Australia's Prime Minister Bruce.
Back to 1851. Henry Dunn's joint lease of the Mt Martha Sheep Station probably ended when the southern part of the parish of Moorooduc had been surveyed and the land south of Hearns Rd was sold in small portions. Agents were appointed by Jamieson to lease the survey. In 1851, according to a heritage study, Brown Lee and (Charles) Graves, in partnership, leased the (whole?) survey. They may have sub-let small portions to newly arrived settlers or the extent of their lease may have been misunderstood. The spelling of the name of Charles Graves' partner is debatable. Rosalind Peatey had it as Brownley in PINE TREES AND BOXTHORNS (probably on the page 20 map showing the route of the electric telegraph line.)
In an attempt to find something about William Brownlee, I stumbled upon one (BORN IN 1837) who was a pioneer in N.S.W.,OBVIOUSLY NOT OUR ONE, but I loved this quote on the end.
"Not to know what happened before one was born is to remain a child." Cicero.
William Brownlee's surname was a single word,not Brown-Lee as it has been written on occasions, and he and Charles Graves were on the Survey by early 1851.Graves did not indicate that he was in partnership with Brownlee but L.Wilding of Flinders possibly consulted Graves (of "Woodlands" in the parish of Flinders) about this when writing his 1905 history. Wilding did a good job with his history but did make some errors, such as saying John Cain's father was William Cain when the man who established "Tyrone" was actually Owen Cain.
FIVE POUNDS REWARD.
STOLEN, on Saturday evening, or Sunday morning lost, from off Jamieson's Survey,Western Port-A bay mare, a little white on hind legs, branded (something?*) over C right shoulder, and a circle cross-barred on off neck, and a switch tail.
To any person bringing the mare to the Globe Inn, Melbourne, Â£2 will be paid ; and Â£5 to whoever gives such information as will lead to the capture and conviction of the thief,who is well known.
WILLIAM BROWNLEE. April 26, 1851.(P.3, Argus, 1-5-1851.)
WHO IS THE OLDEST RESIDENT IN THE PENINSULA.
TO THE EDITOR.
SIR, - Re "New Chum's" inquiry in your last issue as to the oldest resident of the Peninsula, I think I am one of the few that are left. I left the Isle of Man in August, 1849, and arrived in Melbourne December the same year. After spending 12 months near Melbourne, I came to Dromana (then called Jamieson's Survey) on January
15th, 1851. I rented 4000 acres of land from the Bank of Australia for nine years, and in 1860 bought the
property I am now living on. You will therefore see that I am one of the old pioneers.
C. GRAVES. "Woodlands," Shoreham. (P.3, Mornington Standard, 22-3-1902.)
Extract from one of L.Wilding's articles on the history of the Mornington Peninsula. (See my journal:
Mr L.Wilding of Flinders,Early Mornington Peninsula Historian.)
Evidently the first purchase of land on the Peninsula was in 1841. The special survey system, previously confined to South Australia, was then resorted to in Port Phillip. A person paying Â£5120 into the Treasury had
the right of directing the authorities to make him a survey of eight square miles* of unreserved territory, subject to certain provisions relating to water frontages and other matters. Between March 17 and May 1 in that year eight special surveys had been applied for in Port Phillip.
One of the applicants was Mr. H. Jamieson, who chose his 5120* acres between Mount Martha and Arthur's Seat. His area included Hobson's Flats, and was bounded on the west by Port Phillip Bay. A very well-finished house, costing Â£500, which was put up on this survey, was at that time considered a very fine structure, and was probably as good a dwelling as any in the colony. The survey was occupied for some time by Jamieson Bros, and later on passed into the hands of the Bank of Australasia. In the middle of January, 1851,Mr Graves, now of Woodlands, Flinders, entered into a tenancy of 4120 acres of the area. The other portion, including the house, was rented by Connell Bros**. When Mr Graves and his partner, Mr Brown Lee (who at the start, went in extensively for wheat growing), had occupied the place for about five years, it was purchased by Mr Clark (***sic), the grandfather of Sir Rupert Clark, the present owner.
Five years after the sale Mr Clark, Mr Griffiths, and Mr Gibson, whose families are still in possession, became
the tenants of the property. The rental paid by Messrs Graves and Brown Lee in the early days was 10s per acre.(P.6, Mornington Standard,2-9-1905.)
*The traditional acre was a chain wide and 10 chains long(a furrow-long or furlong), or 10 square chains. Early grants usually were a mile by a mile (80 x 80 chains)making 6400 square chains or 640 acres. To give squatters the incentive to improve their runs, they had the assurance of a pre-emptive right,usually of 640 acres and the homestead block. As long as they paid their annual lease fee to the Crown, nobody else could buy it. Eight times 640 acres equals 5120 acres and the surveys cost a pound per acre.
** This,if true, and probably testified to by Charles Graves,makes it almost certain that Graves and Brownlee were partners,leasing the 4120 acres south of the Martha Cove Waterway (Tassell's or Brokil Creek). Connell Bros. would have had the 1000 acres(approximately) between that creek and Ellerina/Bruce/Foxey's Rd.
*** Mr Wilding can hardly be criticised for the spelling of the surname when Bulla Road Board/Shire rate collectors made the same mistake repeatedly. William John Turner Clarke,whose Special Survey displaced the Jackson Bros. and George Evans from their runs near Sunbury (Koorakooracup? and Emu Bottom) and Walter Clark of Glenara east of Bulla Township often were given the other's surname in rate books despite being very prominent residents.Big Clarke's son,William, was made a Baronet and built Rupertwood,the birthplace of the Ashes, naming it after his son,Rupert,who inherited the title and owned the southern (almost) 4120 acres of the Survey when it was subdivided. He was called Rupert Clarke,Bart.,in Flinders and Kangerong Shire ratebooks.
A heritage study states that Graves and his partner, Brownlee leased the survey in 1851.Charles bought Maryfield,had it fenced by Rymer, and then sold it to Mary McLear, who gave the farm its name. He then became a Shoreham store keeper and established a farm called Woodlands in the parish of Flinders. (2015 information.)
It was in about July, 2010 that I found a need to make Mornington Peninsula history more accessible. I saw little sense in repeating what others had written so, Canterbury Jetty Rd being at about the centre of my area of focus, I decided to write a book of verse and call it CANTERBURY TALES. I can't believe that within a month of starting my note-making, I was able to write about a dozen poems like this one about Charles Graves.
ALONG THE BACK TRACK C.1860 AUGUST 2010
Charles Graves (back from Melbourne with goods
To hawk to those further west near she-oak woods)
With Bill, the 22 year old son of his partner, Widow McLear,
Left Bill at The Willow; his helper now Godfrey in his tenth year.
The son of Henry Wingy Wilson, named for a crushed hand,
A bullocky living on the eastern end of Jamieson's Survey land.
To the north, over yankee Griffith's maize, Charles saw
Big Clarke's wedding present to his son-in-law*. (*p.s.No proof found.)
To the left, young Godfrey saw Cottier's hut coming nigh
Now housing a hotel which Cutter called the Rye.
Look, said Charles, Pidota and Rowley do it tough;
The bay at the moment is looking quite rough!
When they reached The Rocks, Graves headed back
To climb Arthurs Seat on the Cape Schanck track.
We'll never get through that surf alive
And I'll not wait asleep like Meyrick in 1845!
As they climbed with Gracefield on their left
Charles exclaimed, There's a vine up in the cleft!
Do you mean the Swamp Village's Fred the Greek?
Young Wilson asked with tongue in cheek.
So they climbed through Burrell's 12 500 acres,
Dragging logs on downhill slopes as brakers,
Past the back road to Purves' Tootgarook.
Soon, blonde Cairns on their right, left* Wooloowoolooboolook.
At the next crossroad right turn and then left;
Graves' handling of the drapery laden cart was deft.
Godfrey saw the smoke, sobbed Cometh my time!
Don't panic lad; they're just burning lime.
We started in Kangerong,
Through Wannaeue travelled along
Features and people of history seein'.
Now we stop as we reach Nepean.
As they turned back to Kangerong
A well-known man came riding strong,
(With five year old Maria), running late.
Godfrey wed Maria in 1878.
NOTES FOR ALONG THE BACK TRACK.
1 Henry Wilson's accident probably happened after Godfrey's marriage but I just had to use Wingy.
2.The well-known man in verse 9 was Stenniken who lived at Rye but had some land at Melway 151, D/10 near Wilson's 125 acres.
3.The Griffith and Eaton families came from America. W.J.T.Clarke gave the northern part of the Survey, including Wilson's 125 acre lease, to his son-in-law, Bruce*.(Bruce Rd.) Bruce's's land was south of that owned by the family of another son-in-law, Hearn*. Clarke's life ended at Hearn's Roseneath in Essendon which was later owned by William Salmon.(28, G/1) (*p.s. No proof of claimed relationships.)
4.Cottier took the name and the licence to the area near White Cliff where he and John Campbell built a hotel.
(POSTSCRIPT. This claim in LIME LAND LEISURE is disproved by newspaper extracts in my journal about William Cottier supposedly giving Rye its name.)
5.Peter Pidota was an early mariner, loading and unloading with the help of Rowley, near Sheepwash Creek.
6.THE ROCKS was an early name for Anthony's Nose. The Cape Schanck track started where Latrobe Pde does today. The name change to Bayview Rd was probably driven by developers wanting to promote the spectacular views.
7. Maurice Meyrick fell asleep while waiting for low tide as he made his way to Boneo in 1845.
8.William Grace planted grapes in a hollow in the mountain slope of Gracefield. One of the Sullivans married one of his daughters. He built the Gracefield Hotel which was demolished by the Hunts circa 1927 so they could build the present Rye Hotel. Cottier's hotel was further east.
9.Fred Vine, whose children were possibly sailed to the Dromana School until the Rosebud one opened much later.
10.The Burrells took over the Arthurs Seat Run following the McCraes' departure in 1851.
11.This method of making a safe descent was used well into the 1920's.
12.Hiscock Road, now closed, is shown between Colchester Rd and the street named after the successful butcher known to you as WINGY.
13.The break in Browns Rd at Truemans Rd.
14.Three parish names.
*This was based on young George McCrae's estimate of the location of the Wooloowoolooboolook homestead being calculated as being near Pattersons Rd, Fingal but I believe (based on Marie Fels' I SUCCEEDED ONCE)that Wooloowoolooboolook was on the Port Phillip Bay side of Old Cape Schanck Rd and that James Purves' grants (southern extension of Rosebud Country Club) between the Wannaeue Estate and the Cairns brothers' grant at the north east corner of Browns and Boneo Rds might have been the site of George Smith's homestead. In this case, having reached the junction of Old Cape Schanck and Browns Rds, the Cairns family would have been to the right and the Wooloowoolooboolook homestead farther right,not left. Young George was probably describing Boneo Rd as the Cape Schanck road when he gave the distance between his home (McCrae homestead) and George Smith's house.
THE SURVEY (CONTINUED.)
PIONEERS THAT STAYED INCLUDING THE UNTRAINED DOC. AND THE MIDWIFE. (Sarah Wilson's story and the Kiwi Gibson)
Colin McLear gives much background that led to the arrival of Widow McLear on the survey from page 93 of his A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA. Having emigrated in 1838 John and Mary lived on the property of explorer John Oxley in N.S.W. until moving to the Plenty River near Melbourne in 1846. Their fifth surviving child was born there in 1849 before six members of the family moved to Jamieson's Survey. Whether the move was arranged beforehand or as a result of John's death, it might have been suggested by William Brownlee who qualified for the vote in 1843 because he was a landholder on the Plenty. It seems quite a coincidence that Mary Ann and her family arrived in the same year as Brownlee.
Colin said the fight started at a race meeting near the Plough Inn on Boxing Day,1849, because John Holland had lost a bet with John McLear and refused to pay up. Mason probably got involved because he was anti protestant. John's groom, William Marshall had taken two sticks and a whip from Holland but while he was preoccupied with this disarming.Mason struck the coward's blow.
The inquest on the body of the unfortunate Mr. John McLear, of the River Plenty, who met with his death from the effects of a blow inflicted by a man named Thos. Mason, was held yesterday at the Plough Inn. The coroner did not return until late in the evening, and we can therefore only give a brief account of the investigation.
The particulars as elicited by the evidence, corresponds with the accounts given at the time of the fatal occurrence. An angry altercation took place between the deceased and some other man, during which Mason without any provocation deliberately went into the yard, brought out a piece of quartering which had been used for measuring the height of the horses entered for the races, and holding it in both hands, struck the deceased a
violent blow on the right side of the head. He fell instantly and was carried into the Inn.
William Butler, the landlord, was examined, and stated that he saw a man strike the blow ; other witnesses positively identified Mason as the man who struck the blow and Dr. Robertson, the first medical man who attended the deceased, described the frightful injuries which resulted in death.The skull was fractured and thirteen pieces of bone were removed by Dr. Robertson and Dr. Hunter who was afterwards called in to attend
Mr McLear never evinced the slightest symptom of consciousness after the blow. He recognised no one and lingered in a state of insensibility. The evidence did not show that the slightest provocation had been offered by the deceased, but a rumour is current that an animosity existed on the part of Mason against his victim. The jury returned a verdict of Wilful Murder against Thos. Mason, and a warrant has been issued by the Coroner for his apprehension on that charge. But Mason has disappeared anticipating the result, and it is known that what little he was possessed of is being sold. (P.2, Argus, 1-1-1850.)
Colin presumed that William Marshall was the aforementioned groom. Like Mary Ann,he might have been tipped off by William Brownlee that a small farm would soon be available on Jamieson's Survey at mate's rates. Alex Marshall,the first postmaster at Red Hill in 1871 might have been his son.
In 1864 William Marshall was assessed on a two roomed hut and 70 acres leased from Wm. Clark (sic)and in 1865 his property was described as 60 acres and a 2 roomed house leased from W.J.T.Clarke. If Colin's P.27 map is precise, William Marshall's homestead would have been near 59 Pickings Rd.
According to Colin's map, William Cottier's house on the Survey was near today's Balmoral Avenue. William signed the 1861 petition in support of Robert Quinan's school becoming Dromana's Common School (P.133 in Colin's book.) William Cottier (pronounced Cutter)received the grants for crown allotments 9 and 10 section 1, Kangerong and built the initial part of what became Walter Gibson's Glenholm homestead. C/a 9 is now the Dromana Industrial Estate and c/a 10 is the Monaco Estate including all Lombardy St house blocks.
What did surprise me is the following grant in the parish of Fingal, south of the Boniyong (Bono) pre-emptive right.
Lot 32. One hundred and twenty two acres three roods five perches, 22/- per acre.William Cottier.
(P.5, Argus, 19-2-1858.)
In another journal I have warned family historians about taking lot numbers to be crown allotment numbers. William Cottier's Fingal grant was crown allotment 13 of 122 acres 3 roods and twenty five perches.It was a triangular block fronting the west side of Truemans Rd south of the St Andrews Golf Club's Gunnamatta Course, indicated by Melway 252 B10 and C 10-11.
When I added Kangerong as a search term, to avoid millions of shipping intelligence articles in the 1850's (Captain William Cottier), I discovered that William had bought his grants between Collins Rd and (inclusively) Lombardy St in early 1857. Lot 5 is c/a 9 and lot 6 is c/a 10 (both section 1 Kangerong.)
Parish of Kangerong, County of Mornington. Upset price Â£1 per acre.
Lot 5,151a. Sr. 8p, William Cottier, Â£1 per acre.
Lot 6,116a. 2r., William Cottier, Â£1 5s. do. (P.6,Argus,26-3-1857.)
LIME LAND LEISURE has much detail about Cottier and John Campbell (who also signed the 1861 petition in support of Robert Quinan.) Charles Hollinshed relied on the memory of elderly descendants and called Dromana's pioneer James Cottier. Equally dubious is his claim that Cottier established the RYE hotel at Dromana and that the licence was later transferred to Tootgarook where he and John Campbell (who built Rye's first pier in 1860) built the RYE HOTEL east of Lyons St. (The present Rye Hotel is on the site of Patrick Sullivan's Gracefield Hotel, built about 15 years later, whose name came from the Dromana property that his father in law,William Grace, had sold in about 1871 before moving to Rye.)
So what's this?
FOUND, A quantity of SPARS. Owner can have a claim by applying to Mr. Cottier, Tootgarook Hotel, Tootgarook.
(P.1, Argus, 8-6-1869.)
NOTICE of APPLICATION for a PUBLICAN'S LICENCE.-To the Bench of Magistrates. atMornington.-I, WILLIAM COTTIER, farmer, now residing At Rye, in the colony of Victoria, do hereby give notice that it is my intention to APPLY to the justices, sitting at the Court of Petty Sessions to be holden at Mornington, In the said colony, on the 20th day of June next, for a CERTIFICATE authorising the issuing of a PUBLICAN'S LICENCE for a house situated at Rye aforesaid. The house is built of wood, consisting of two sitting rooms and six bedrooms exclusive of those required for the use of tho family; occupied and owned,by me. It is not licensed. To be known as the Tootgarook Hotel.
The 14th day of June, A.D. 1867.,
(Signed) . WILLIAM COTTIER. (P.8 Argus, 21-6-1867.)
NOTICE.-The PARTNERSHIP hitherto subsisting between WILLIAM COTTIER and JOHN CAMPBELL, trading as " Wm. Cottier and Campbell," at Tootgarook, has this day been DISSOLVED by mutual consent.All liabilities will be paid and all moneys received by William Cottier.
WM. COTTIER. ,
Melbourne 18th April, 1870. (P.3, Argus, 14-4-1870.)
William Cottier, of Rye, near Point Nepean,limeburner. Causes of insolvency-Long depression of trade and losses in business. Liabilities, Â£480 12s. 6d. ; assets, Â£30 ; deficiency, Â£150 12s. 6d, Mr. Goodman, official assignee. (P.5, Argus, 26-10-1870.)
A special examination was held in the estate of William Cottier, of Rye, labourer,late publican. The insolvent was brought in custody from gaol, where he was imprisoned on a charge of stealing meat, and was examined by Mr. F. Stephen in reference to his transactions as a publican at Rye, and also respecting a lime-burning business that he had been engaged in. (P.7, Argus,23-12-1870.)
Certificates of discharge from their debts were granted to the following insolvents :
....... ; John Blair, of Melbourne, surgeon*; ....... William Cottier, of Rye, limeburner ; F. W. Wilks, of Collingwood, commission agent. (P.6, Argus, 10-6-1871.)
*Blair,like Cottier,recovered and bought Villa Maria, naming it Blairgowrie, which eventually became the new name of Sorrento East.
In another journal, probably the SAFETY BEACH one, I have provided much evidence that the Paterson pioneers on the Survey were members of the same family which gave Pattersons Rd, Fingal its name. This family was linked with the Cairns and Russell families in that area and also the Stenniken family. Some of the Patterson family moved to Rosebud and Dromana, and importantly, onto the Survey,where, as Colin McLear states, Wallaces Rd was known to old timers as Patterson's Lane. (See Peter Wilson's THE CAIRNS FAMILY OF BONEO.)
James Clydesdale moved onto the Survey in about 1860 according to Colin McLear and if the map of early settlers on page 27 is accurate his home was on the north bank of Dunns Creek in the top left corner of Melway 160 G4. George and Sarah Peatey arrived on the Survey at the same time as James Clydesdale and wife Julia and lived between Dunns Creek and today's Lakeside Court. On 17-4-1864 when Julia was about to give birth to their tenth* child, Emma, James (then described as a mariner)might have been at work, but there was no need for Julia to panic; all she had to do in order to summon the midwife was open her door, face west and yell out, "Sarah."
(*Sarah Peatey's records mentioned that the five eldest children had all died.)
After many years working for George McLear(timber getting), Jonah Griffith (possibly the mariner era) and Walter Gibson(taking mail to Cape Schanck), James settled on 45 acres on the south side of Dunns Creek Rd between today's Dromana/Red Hill boundary and a line indicated by the north-south section of Gibb Rd (near Melway 161 B8.) He received the title (grant) on 7-5-1884.
This was close to the Tubbarubba diggings where two sons,James Jnr and Harry worked for gold miner, Bernard F.Eaton (brother of Watson Eaton) who found 7 ounces of gold in seven years. (P.45, THE RED HILL.) James Jnr married Charlie Dyson's daughter and lived in Pier St,Alec married Miss Cleine of Red Hill and lived on the corner of Heales and Hogkinson Sts but had no children, and it may have been Emma who became Mrs Davis of Red Hill.
A descendant indicated that the Clydesdales arrived on the Survey earlier than Colin McLear thought they had.
William James CLYDESDALE
Born 1 Nov 1817 Tradestown, Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location
Died 15 Aug 1902 Parish Of Kangerong, Victoria , Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Buried 18 Aug 1902 Dromana Cemetery, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
The following information on James ,Julia and their family was kindly provided by their Great Great Grandson Geoffrey Robert Doherty. Geoff has volumes of notes on most of this branch of the family, with only some of those notes added into these records.
Â«uÂ»James Clydesdale is an enigma. Â«/uÂ»
"James" Clydesdale came to Australia in 1849, first settling in Melbourne, then moving to Dromana, on the Mornington Peninsula a few years later. His wife's name was Julia Cahill, and possibly one of the hundreds of Irish Orphan girls brought to Australia as a result of the Irish famine. In 1902 James completed his pension application at the local Court House.In this pension application James listed his parents names, the name of the ship in which he came to Australia, the date he married Julia. James explicitly stated that his parents were William Clydesdale and Janet Muir, of Glasgow.The same is recorded in Julia's application although James actually filled out the forms.
Other documents(e.g his childrens Death Certificates etc) record his name as William James Clydesdale.
It is interesting that James Clydesdale and John Gibson both came from Lanarkshire and were both mariners. I wonder if they knew each other before they settled on the Survey. Sarah Peatey and Julia Clydesdale both did cleaning at William Dixon Scurfield hotel and tried to restore Father Nyall's reputation. (See Eaton entry.)
George Peatey,over 7 feet tall,had been in the Queen's Own Guard. He and his wife, Sarah left London on 31-7-1855 and sailed on the Royal George,arriving in November.Edward Norman was born at Tarraville, Gippsland before the end of the year and by April 1857 they were back in Melbourne where John Henry was born. Arriving on the Survey in 1858, George was one of many who supplied timber for George McLear.
Maria(1859) and Charlotte (1861) were born on Jamieson's Special Survey. Sarah, a midwife, delivered Emma Clydesdale, David Morgan and David Peter Thompson(1864), Margaret Watson and Rose Ann Bucher (first white child born in Rosebud) (1867), "Big Bill" Gibson (1868)and George Watson (1869). The birthplace of George and Sarah's next child,Alfred William,was described as Kangerong ,a fair indication that the Peateys were no longer on the Survey but had settled on 27A Kangerong, 51 acres on the west corner of Harrisons and Dunns Creek Rds, now occupied by three wineries. The grant was received on 11-7-1876 and an adjacent 50 acre block (27C) was granted on 2-12-1881. Run off from Arthurs Seat made the land too wet for cropping and they'd already bought 2 acres at the south corner of Jetty Rd and McDowell St, Rosebud, onto which they moved in 1888. Descendants later bought the block on the east side of today's Murray Anderson Rd foreshore car park through which a creek,known to all as Peatey's Creek, flowed to the bay. (PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS Rosalind Peatey.)
John Gibson was a mariner (possibly connected with Emu Bay in Tasmania) whose child, John,was born on the Survey in 1859 and later became a Kiwi. John Senior was Walter Gibson's brother and may have taken Walter's sheep to Dromana Bay where Walter swam them ashore in the mid 1850's according to Colin McLear.
Extract from my journal THE GIBSON OF DROMANA WHO BECAME A KIWI in which all sources are given.
John Gibson 1859 - 1932 Kangarong, Victoria, Australia
Cert reads: 3 August 1859, Jamiesons Survey, Kangerong, Victoria, John, not ... or nurse to certify, signatures of occupiers or other witnesses, Mrs Brownlee ... Registered 3 Oct 1859 at Schnapper Point by William Armstrong, Deputy Registrar ..
(The above was discovered when I was researching William Brownlee of the survey for my DROMANA HERITAGE TRAIL journal. My motto is USE IT OR LOSE IT. The witness to the birth would have been Mary Ann McLear, widow of John McLear who was killed at Plenty's Plough Inn during a race meeting on Boxing Day, 1849. Mary Ann may have met Mrs Brownlee in that area. Mrs McLear leased a property called The Willow, which was near the south-bound freeway off ramp and the drive-in. John Gibson, who married Emma P. Clinton, was possibly* a brother of Walter Gibson of the Survey and "Glenholm", Dromana. John Gibson's father was Adam Gibson and Walter's first-born was named Adam. William Brownlee may have also come from Lanarkshire.)
* I'm not a gambler but I reckon I could make good money betting on my guesses. John and Walter had the same father, Adam, who married a Purdie girl, so Walter may have married a cousin.
GIBSON-PURDIE.(Golden Wedding) On the 22nd November, 1849, at Kilbuchs-place, near Biggar, Scotland, by the Rev. Hamilton Paul, Walter Gibson, son of Adam Gibson, of Wiston, to Margaret Purdie, daughter of Alexander Purdie, of Peebles. (Present address, Glenholm, Dromana, Victoria.) Scotch papers please copy.
Born August 3, 1859 in Kangarong, Victoria, Australia
Son of John Gibson and Emma P. (Clinton) Gibson
Brother of Caroline E. (Austin) Rowe, James Gibson and William Henry Gibson
Husband of Edna (Dale) Gibson married December 27, 1882 in New Plymouth, TNK, NZ
Father of Iris E. (Gibson) Way, Elsie Edna Gibson, Ellen Elizabeth Gibson, Robert Gibson, William Henry Gibson, Mabel Irene Gibson, Jessie Hilda Catherine Gibson, John Harold Gibson, Sydney Eric Gibson, Norman Parau Gibson, Lance V. Gibson and Vivian Phyllis Gibson
Died October 16, 1932 in New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand
Date: 03 AUG 1859
Place: Kangarong, , Victoria, Australia
Note: Ref #18714, indexed as Jno Gibson s/o John, mother Emma Parkes (sic) Clinton ? in the parish of Kangerong, Co. Mornington. Cert reads: 3 August 1859, Jamiesons Survey, Kangerong, Victoria, John, not present, male, s/o John GIBSON, mariner, 34, born Wiston, Lanarkshire, Scotland, married Emerald Hill, Melbourne, Victoria to Emma Parker Gibson, formerly Clinton, 32, born London, England. Issue living and deceased: Emma (no age given), John, 61 days. Informant, John Gibson, father, residence: Jamieson Survey, Victoria. Witnesses: No medical attendant, or nurse to certify, signatures of occupiers or other witnesses, Mrs Brownlee and Mrs McLein (sic).
Registered 3 Oct 1859 at Schnapper Point by William Armstrong, Deputy Registrar
Date: 16 OCT 1932
Place: New Plymouth, , Taranaki, New Zealand
Note: Coronary stenosis, aorta atheroma
Date: 18 OCT 1932
Place: New Plymouth, , Taranaki, New Zealand
Date: 28 FEB 2007
Prior to import, this record was last changed 28 FEB 2007
Husband: John Gibson
Wife: Edna Dale
Child: Iris Emma Gibson
Child: Norman Parau Gibson
Child: Lance Vernon Gibson
Child: Vivian Phyllis Gibson
Child: Elsie Edna Gibson
Child: Robert Gibson
Child: Ellen Elizabeth Gibson
Child: William Henry Gibson
Child: Mabel Irene Gibson
Child: Jessie Hilda Catherine Gibson
Child: John Harold Gibson
Child: Sydney Eric Gibson
Date: 27 DEC 1882
Place: New Plymouth, , Taranaki, New Zealand
Note: exact date from ref 308. Folio #2758 John GIBSON to Edna DALE
Husband: John Gibson
Child: John Gibson
Date: 31 DEC 1855
Place: Melbourne, , Victoria, Australia
Note: cert. #3632 shows: John Gibson, 30, single, born Lanark, Scotland, Master Mariner, present and usual address: Brigantine 'Express', Melbourne, s/o Adam Gibson, contractor, Janet Purdie;
Bride Emma Parker Clinton, 28, single, born London, d/o William Clinton, currier, Jemima Parker, present and usu. address Melbourne. No children by former marriage, either living or dead for either party (ie Emma ignores her previous marriage and existing child, Caroline Emma Austin).
I John Gibson, do hereby declare that I am a member of the Presbyterian church, and that I was married in the Manse at Emerald Hill. Signed by both parties. Witnesses: Andrew Boyd, Elisabeth Boyd. Minister: D Macdonald.
It is likely that John and Walter Gibson shared the same leased portion of the Survey. A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA gives the time of Walter's arrival near the Survey as the mid 1850's and his master mariner brother,John, would have been away most of the time after his marriage in 1855,so it would have been logical for Emma to live with her in-laws for company and support. As Walter's mother was a Purdie girl,it is likely that Walter's wife, Margaret (nee Purdie) was Walter's cousin.There is extensive information about Walter and his descendants in Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA. Walter's GLENHOLM*, between Collins Rd and the west side of Lombardy St, is now occupied by the Dromana Industrial Estate and the Monaco Estate. After purchasing Glenholm from William Cottier,Walter still occupied a significant portion of the Survey and in 1910, he had lots 1,3-8 (528 acres),4, 9,9A,10 (400 acres),and 10 (130 acres.) I wonder if Walter realised that he paid rates on lots 4 and 10 twice!
(*Colin gave it as GLENHOLME but many family notices always used this spelling without the e.)
This account describes in detail the use of steam for many purposes on Glenholm,due to the expertise of Walter's brother,Thomas, and seems to claim an earlier arrival on the Survey than that given by Colin McLear.
Mr and Mrs Walter Gibson, of "Glenholm," celebrated their golden wedding on Wednesday. Nov. 22. A large number of friends and relations were present to commemorate the occasion. Mr and Mrs Gibson received hearty congratulations and best wishes from all, and the party broke up about 1 p.m. with ringing cheers, after a very
They were married at Kilbucho Place, near Biggar, Scotland, by the Rev. Hamilton Paul, on Nov. 25, 1849. The family number 5 sons and 5 daughters, and 28 grandchildren. Mr Gibson landed in Victoria in 1849 and commenced contracting and farming at Dromana. Of later years his attention has been turned mostly to farming, and he has now one of the best farms in the district. Being a mechanic, and with the assistance of his brother, Thos. Gibson, who is a thorough genius, he purchased a steam engine, which has proved a great labor-saving apparatus. Chaff cutting, threshing, bone-crushing, timber-sawing and brick-making is all worked on the premises by steam, and the farm is well worth a visit when work is in full swing. Mr and Mrs Gibson still enjoy good health, and from appearances will live to celebrate their diamond wedding.
(P.2,Mornington Standard, 30-11-1899.)
In the JOHN GIBSON entry I claimed that he and Walter were brothers. Here is confirmation but the genius, Thomas, is not mentioned.
Born September 23, 1829 in Lanarkshire, Scotland
Son of Adam Gibson and Janet Purdie
Brother of John Gibson
Husband of Margaret Purdie â married before 1851 [location unknown]
Father of John Gibson
Died December 5, 1916 in Dromana, Victoria, Australia
(Walter Gibson 1829 - 1916 Lanarkshire, Scotland - WikiTree
THOMAS GIBSON, WALTER'S OTHER BROTHER.
The many friends of Mr Thomas Gibson will regret to hear of his death,which occurred at his brother's residence " Glenholm " on Thursday morning last, at the age of 62. Mr Gibson had been ailing in health for some time past, and attended the Royal Agricultural Show, where he contracted a severe cold, which turned to pneumonia and resulted in his death.
Mr Gibson was born in Biggar, Scotland,in 1838, and migrated to Masterton,New Zealand, from whence he arrived
here 16 years ago. Since his residence in Dromana he won the respect of all that knew him, and it can be truthfully said that he never made a single enemy. His loss to the district will be severely felt, as, being a thorough mechanic, any work requiring skill was always taken to him, and he was ever willing and ready to impart his knowledge to others.
His remains were interred in the Dromana cemetery on Sunday afternoon, a large number from all parts of the district attending the funeral. Mr Buchan officiated at the grave. In the evening the Presbyterian Church, of which he was a member, was draped with mourning. Mr Buchan preached an impressive sermon, and made touching reference to the deceased. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 27-9-1900.)
Like Mary Ann McLear, Sarah arrived on the Survey as a widow.
Extract from my journal THE MYSTERIOUS SARAH WILSON.
Sarah Spence was born in County Tyrone,Ireland and at the age of 21, she married Oliver Wilson, a staunch Presbyterian and a shoemaker. Oliver, son of George and Martha,was born on County Donegal in 1791.His mother died in 1831 aged 80 and probably because he no longer had the responsibility of her care,he married in 1832 at the age of 40. Three children were to share the voyage to Australia: George b.1833,Jane b.1834 and Matilda b.1837.
Since 1835, there had been a bounty of 38 pounds paid for married couples under the age of 40 who went to the colony so Oliver,now 49, declared that he was 38 and that Sarah (actually 29) was 34. Having crossed the Irish Sea,they sailed from Liverpool on the Argyle,leaving on 7-11-1840 and landing at William's Town on 12-4-1841, glad to step ashore after the confined space in steerage.
Oliver continued his trade as a shoemaker and the family had a house in Flinders Lane where their fourth child,Robert, was born on 11-7-1843. Melbourne had been declared a Town in 1842 and by the birth was probably in the grip of a severe depression,but Oliver persevered and by 1847 was making a good living from his craft, with help from 14 year-old George. Oliver died on 12-1-1851 and soon rents became astronomical because of the gold rush, so 18 year-old George,now the head of the family suggested a move to cheaper housing on Jamieson's Special Survey near Arthur's Seat (the present Safety Beach, east to Bulldog Creek Rd.) This makes it likely that Sarah's family arrived on the Survey in 1851 or soon after,rather than 1855 as stated by Colin McLear and the pioneer pathway plaque. How could Jane and Matilda have married fellow Survey residents on 18-4-1855 if they had not spent some time getting to know each other?
The children of Oliver Wilson (1791-1851) and Sarah, nee Spence (1811-1870) were:
1. George (1830-1905),born Lifford, Ireland who married (1866)Mary Jane Connell (Ryder on birth certificate.);
2. Jane (1834-63), born Lifford, who married George Young (1855,see his journal) at Sarah's house on the Survey;
3. Matilda (1837-78), b. Lifford, who married William Johnson (b. Dublin,1832-75)in a joint ceremony with Jane;
4. Robert (1843-94), born Melbourne, who never married and would have been only about 18 when he signed the petition supporting Robert Denison Quinan's school at Dromana in 1861.
(Source: GIVING DESTINY A HAND,Petronella Wilson.)
CONNELL.(See the Sarah Wilson entry.)
Extract from the history of the Mornington Peninsula written by Mr L.Wilding of Flinders, with the information probably coming from Charles Graves of "Woodlands",(parish of)Flinders.
The survey was occupied for some time by Jamieson Bros, and later on passed into the hands of the Bank of Australasia. In the middle of January, 1851,Mr Graves, now of Woodlands, Flinders, entered into a tenancy of 4120 acres of the area. The other portion, including the house, was rented by Connell Bros.
The Connells had the northern 1004 acres, later owned by John Vans Agnew Bruce and leased from him by Edwin Louis Tassell, north of the line of the Martha Cove Waterway to Ellerina/Bruce/Foxey's Rd. Their extensive grants in the parish of Moorooduc, the Mornington connections, the postie's death, Foxey's Hangout and many other details are discussed in Petronella Wilson's brilliant GIVING DESTINY A HAND.
Mr James Connell, of Tuerong, a pioneer of the peninsula, has died. He was a member of all sporting clubs on the penÃnsula. He was one of the leading stone contractors and owned 1000 acres. In recent years he disposed of about 700 acres at Kangerong and Hastings to Messrs Matthewsson and Haggen.
(P.14, Argus, 19-6-1926.)
YOUNG.(See the Sarah Wilson entry.)
From my journal GEORGE YOUNG THE MYSTERIOUS PIONEER OF DROMANA.
George's father, also George, was born in Birmingham and, convicted of stealing brushes at the age of 16 was transported to Van Dieman's Land in 1820. Having served his time, he married Charlotte, who had been convicted of highway robbery, in 1826 and George Junior was born in 1828. Charlotte was murdered by being pushed into a fire when the boy was about 7 and his father later married Elizabeth Jones (who had been transported for stealing a purse.)George's father and stepmother were recorded as passengers to the Port Phillip District (Victoria) in 1848. Petronella Wilson speculated that George (junior)worked his passage across and mentioned no siblings (which surely there were unless there was a reproduction problem.)
George Young junior married Jane Wilson at Sarah Wilson's house on the Survey on 18-4-1855. Jane had been born in 1834 to Oliver and Sarah Wilson and had been about 7 when the family arrived on 12-1-1841. George was now 25 and his occupation was given as carpenter. On the same day, possibly simultaneously, Jane's sister, Matilda, married William Johnson. The two couples later moved to Melway 255 H-J 1 with George Wilson, brother of the brides.George and Jane had five children:Jane Ann, George, Mary Jane, John and Sarah.
Jane died at 29 shortly after Sarah's birth on 12-8-1863 and the baby was taken in by Matilda and William. On 2-1-1866,George married Janet White, an orphaned 18 year old from Mt Martha. George Wilson and his fiancee, Mary Jane Connell were witnesses; Mary Jane's father, Anthony, had been granted a huge area of land across three chain road from the grants of Andrew White, who may have been Janet's father.
IN the SUPREME COURT of the COLONY of VICTORIA : Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction.-In the Will of ANDREW WHITE, late of Tubba Rubba, In the parish of Moorooduc; In tho County of Mornington, in the Colony of Victoria, Farmer, Deceased. -Notice Is hereby given, that, after the expiration of 14 days from the publication hereof, application will be made to tho Supreme Court of the colony of Victoria, in its Ecclesiastical jurisdiction, that PROBATE of tho LAST WILL and TESTAMENT of Andrew White, late of Tubba Rubba, in the parish of Moorooduc, in tho county of Mornington, in the colony of Victoria, farmer, deceased, may be granted to Archibald White, of Tubba Rubba aforesaid, farmer ; William White, of the same place, farmer ; and William Armstrong, of Mornington, in tho said colony, clerk of petty sessions, the trustees and executors named in and appointed by tho said will.
Dated this sixteenth day of January, A.D. 1865.
GEORGE JOHN SIMS, l8 Collins-street east, Melbourne, proctor for tho said Archibald White, William White, and William Armstrong, the above-named trustees and executors.(P.6, Argus, 17-1-1865.)
I have no way of knowing if the G.Young, grazier of Moorooduc, was our George, but I have a fair suspicion that he was. I also suspect that his unfortunate son was named after one of the executors of Andrew White.
A young man named William Young aged 26, a son of Mr G Young grazier of Moorooduc and considered to be one of the best horsemen in the district, met with a fatal accident whilst out riding on Sunday breaking in a young horse. It appears that the horse by some means got its tail entangled in the crupper of the saddle and commenced to buck, ultimately coming down and falling heavily upon the rider, who was severely injured about the head. The services of Dr. Reed were promptly called in, and on examination that gentleman pronounced the injury to be concussion of the brain of a serious nature, and in spite of all that could be done for the sufferer he remained in a partly unconscious state until Monday afternoon, when death put an end to his sufferings. An inquest or magisterial inquiry was not deemed necessary, Dr Reed having given a certificate that death resulted from concussion of the brain, &c.(P.6,Argus, 24-2-1892.)
In GIVING DESTINY A HAND, Petronella Wilson stated that, after his first wife died, George Young had married 18 year old orphan, Janet White of Mt Martha in 1866 and they lived on 16 acres in the parish of Balnarring. This description made me think of Andrew White, whose grants were across three chain road from those of Anthony Connell in the parish of Moorooduc. But first I had to find the 16 acres in Balnarring.
A snatch of the first Flinders Road Board assessment (8-6-1869) is reproduced below.
33. Thomas Bullock house and 59 acres; 34. Hamilton Allen 115 acres; 35. George Young house and 16 acres;
36. William Johnson house and 5 acres; George Wilson house and 32 acres; 37. Edward Grey house and 53acres.
On 7-6-1870,the following were assessed.
49. Thomas Bullock 59 acres; 50. George Wilson 48 acres; Edward Gray 54 acres. (George Young and William Johnson were no longer there! George Young's 16 acre block was obviously part of George Wilson's property.)
I checked every parish up to 1874 and the first Shire of Flinders and Kangerong assessment, and there was no sign of either. I had suspected that if Janet White was related to Andrew White, George and Janet would have been likely to settle in the parish of Moorooduc (which was in another Road District, being north of Ellerina Rd.
And about the grazier's son being named William: William White, executor for Andrew White (Law notice above in italics) was probably related to George Young's second wife, Janet. George had five children from his first marriage and added ten more with Janet including William Henry and Charles Albert.
George Young (1828-1916)b.Launceston married (1855) Jane Wilson (1834-63.) Their children were:
Jane Ann (1856-1938) who married (1880) James Connell. (See the Connell journal.)
George (1857-?) who married Jane Clout and had a son,George.
Mary Jane (1859-?)
John (1861-1947) who in 1888 married Martha Ellen Andrews and had seven children.(Names available.)
Sarah (1863-1943), raised by Aunt Matilda, who married Dromana carpenter, James Matthews, in 1882; no issue.
DEATH OF OLD MORNINGTON IDENTITY The Mornington district has lost one of its oldest pioneers in the person of Mr. Jack Young, who had resided in the locality for many years. The late Mr. Young was the son of the late Mr. George Young, who lived near Tuerong Creek in early days. Mr. Jack Young was born in the district, and can therefore be claimed as Mornington's oldest resident. The funeral took place at the Mornington Cemetery.
(P.1, Standard, Frankston,29-5-1947.)
Jack was probably John (above) born in 1861. I have seen the Andrews family described as an old Moorooduc family.
From E. Young, Tuerong, mentioning that the road between Messrs Pitt and Young's properties was impassable. -Referred to the engineer. (P.3, Mornington Standard, 19-9-1903.)
E.Young was most likely Edward Young, woodcutter, brother of Charles Young and brother-in-law of Jack Skillen.
(P.2, Mornington Standard 6-1-1906.) Charles and Edward would have been among the 10 children of George Young and Janet (nee White.)Charles was accused of stealing a slaughtered pig.
The following tenders were accepted : Street sweeping and lamp lighting Charles Young, 30s per week. Supplying 150 yards of metal (spalls) from Tuerong quarry-W. White, 5s 6d per yard. (P.5, Mornington Standard, 21-1-1905.) William White would have been related to Janet White, George Young's second wife. I presume Charles was performing his work in Mornington itself.
George Young's last child with Jane, nee Wilson, was Sarah. She was raised by her aunt, Matilda Johnson, and married James Matthews of Dromana. James was a carpenter and arranged funerals for Hector Gamble of Frankston. He also did the Dromana, Cape Schanck, Flinders mail run.
OBITUARY JAMES MATTHEWS Mr. James Matthews passed away at Bush Nursing Hospital, Mornington, on Monday, September 24 at the age of 85 years. He was born at Dromana, and lived there all his life. His parents were early settlers of Dromana. His wife predeceased him. The funeral was to the Dromana Cemetery. The coffin bearers were: Cr. Rudduck, Mr. J. F. Cross and Mr. A. H. Cross (nephews), Mr.F.Debney. Rev. E. Shackell read the burial service. Messrs. Hector Gamble and Son conducted the funeral arrangements.
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 4 October 1945 p 3 Article.
DROMANA Mr. J. Matthews, a well-known identity, died at Mornington Hospital recently. He is survived by a wife. The deceased had resided in Dromana for many years. (P.2 same paper and issue!) Sarah died in 1943 so the first report is right and the second is wrong! They had no children.
James Matthews served as President of the Dromana Sports Club, was a trustee of the recreation reserve and supplied materials for the maintenance of the mechanics' institute. Like many, he suffered from the 1939 fire at Dromana.
The local undertaker Mr. J. Matthews who is aged 79 years was almost trapped in his workshop. His home and workshop were destroyed and tools worth Â£300 and six coffins were lost.(P.2, Argus, 10-1-1939.)
ANOTHER 10 FOR GEORGE.
George and Jane's first child, Jane Ann married James Connell in 1880 at the age of 24, by which time her father would have provided her with a collection of half brothers, two of whom are mentioned below.
After marrying Janet White on 2-1-1866, George had ten more children including William Henry and Charles Albert who were working with Jane Ann's 14 year old son, Anthony Connell, in the Tuerong quarry when the lad was killed.
THAT'S THE YOUNG HORSE!
Mr. J. Oldfield had a narrow escape from a serious accident on Monday. A horse and trap belonging to Mr. Young, of the Three Chain road, bolted from Mornington with the winkers off and without a driver, and ran into Mr. Oldfield's jinker at Mr. Monk's corner, breaking the shaft, and doing other damage. The same day a horse belonging to Mr.Connell bolted in the main street, breaking the shafts also.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 12-1-1902.)
WAS THIS CHARLES ALBERT YOUNG'S HOUSE?
During a thunderstorm on Monday, a five roomed house owned by Mr C. Young at Tuerong, was burnt to the ground. The chimney was struck by lightning, and the whole place set on fire. The building was uninsured.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 24-8-1912.)
Colin McLear gave Tassell's arrival on the Survey as being in 1860. The following comes from my journal THE TASSELLS OF SAFETY BEACH,RED HILL AND SORRENTO. There is no proof that John Vans Agnew Bruce who died in 1863 was a son in law of Big Clarke and his namesake son who married in the late 1860's certainly wasn't.
Excerpt from my journal THE RED HILL by Sheila Skidmore.
P.41-3. The Village Settlement. The Dromana Historical Society decided to reprint Sheila's book without any alterations. Hopefully there is now an index. Sheila's description of living conditions is excellent and settlers are quoted without mentioning any names. As in the case of an original pioneer, Frances Windsor, these later settlers have not been mentioned. Therefore, they are detailed below.
H.TASSELL, 74a, 20 acres fronting main road west of Prossors Lane. The Tassells were no longer on the village settlement in 1902, apparently having been followed there by Tom Sandlants. Edwin Louis Tassell had leased the northern 1000 acres of Jamieson's Special Survey in the 1860's. This was between Ellerina Rd and Tassells Creek, extending east to the corner of Foxeys and Bulldog Creek Rds (Melway 151 K11-12) and became the Bruce Estate. Tassells Creek is now called the Martha Cove Waterway but Tassells Rd at Safety Beach recalls his seemingly brief tenure. Edward Luis Tassell was assessed on the 1000 acres, leased from W.J.T. "Big" Clarke in 1863 and in 1864 Louis Edward Tassell was similarly assessed (N.A.V. 45 pounds.) In 1865, he was called Edwin Louis Tassell. In view of the name changes, I assumed that the family had moved away after the death of the father. However, because of the brief tenure on the village settlement, I suspected that the Tassells were quitters. Out of respect for our pioneers, I could not harbour this suspicion without justification, so it was back to the rate records at the library this morning!
The Tassells were assessed last, on their 1000 acres leased from Big Clarke, in 1868. In the assessment of 4-9-1869, the name of Edwin Louis Tassell was crossed out and replaced with Robert Brown Riddler, leasing from Bruce, who had obviously just recently married Big Clarke's daughter and received, according to Colin McLear, his wedding present (sic.) The new occupant morphed into Robert Broome Riddler who was still there in 1873, his land being described as only 100 acres in 1871 despite having the same nett annual value as the 1000 acres in 1870 and 1872!
I tried Trove to find out where the Tassell family was between 1869 and the purchase of the village settlement block and found a nugget! The Argus, 7-5-1874, page 12. "MT MARTHA. Tenders are invited until 12 May, 1874 for a three year lease of Brokil Estate (lately occupied by R.B.Ridler, Esq. butcher, previously by the late E.L.Tassell, Esq.) containing 1024 acres of good pastoral land, well watered and subdivided, a large portion sheepproof. J.Vans Agnew Bruce, Fletcher St, Essendon."
I have not found a death notice for Edwin Louis Tassell but he had died before May 1874. Perhaps he had died at the Brokil Estate, leaving Clarke without a tenant, thus providing his son in law with the option of choosing a tenant to occupy his wedding present (sic.) I am sure that Bruce was the partner in Bruce and Cornish, the firm that built the Mt Alexander and Murray River Railway, which deviated miles from the direct course so it would pass through Big Clarke's estates recalled by Rupertswood and Clarkfield.(The upper part of Tassell's Creek is still called Brokil Creek.)
Another trove entry which might apply to the Safety Beach pioneers concerns Edward Tassell suing Matthew Ingle Brown of Greenhills, Diggers Rest for wrongful dismissal. He was employed as a boundary rider at 45 pounds a year but also had a right to rations,and to graze cattle and cultivate a small paddock. Big Clarke was not a spendthrift but had made his way in the world by shrewd practical knowledge resulting from hard work. Thus he had sympathy with strugglers and may have arranged a job for Edwin Louis Tassell's lad with a tenant on his huge Rockbank Estate, which was in the parishes of Maribyrnong and Holden. Brown had left an overseer called Allen in charge. Allen fed Edward rotten mutton which caused an argument and Edward's wrongful dismissal by Allen. (The Argus, 23-11-1872 page 4.)
As H.Tassell was the grantee of 74a in the village settlement, it is reasonable to assume that Henry Tassell of Sorrento was connected. S.Tassell was granted a wine licence at Sorrento (Mornington Standard 3-12-1896 page 3) not long after the wife of Henry Tassell of Sorrento had given birth to twin daughters on 23-5-1895 at Fitzroy (The Argus 24-9-1895 page 1.) The birth might have taken place at his mother in law's place or at St Vincent's Hospital which opened at about this time in a row of houses if my memory serves me correctly. Henry would not have been the only Red Hill resident connected to Sorrento. The Heads sold produce there and a descendant presently plays footy for the sharks; Thomas Appleyard who displeased Red Hill residents by closing a main road straddled by his huge property was a Sorrento resident.
There were parcels and goods waiting at Mornington Station for 22 recipients including Tassell.
(Mornington Standard 30-5-1908 page 3.)
One last trove entry shows that Edwin Louis Tassell was interested in municipal affairs. The candidates standing for three vacancies on the Kangerong District Road Board in August 1864 were William Grace (of Gracefield at Dromana and grantee of the block at Rye on which Sullivan, his son in law, built the Gracefield Hotel,replaced in 1927 by Mrs Hunt's Rye Hotel), James Purves (mainly absent owner of the Tootgarook Station, which was run by James, the son of his deceased brother, Peter),Edwin Louis Tassell, Richard Watkin (Dromana Hotel)and Francis Edward Windsor (grantee of about 176 acres between Margaret Davies' grants and McIlroys Rd on which L.Tassell was leasing 25 acres by 1919.) Unfortunately no results of the election or 1865 meetings appear on trove and Colin McLear does not mention the members, so we must wait to see if Edwin was successful.
Like many of the early Survey tenants, the Tassells moved towards the red hill. H.Tassell must have been daunted by the amount of clearing that was required on 74a. (An article entitled "Around Red Hill" on page 2 of the Mornington Standard of 30-8-1902 gives great detail of the village settlement pioneers but does not mention any members of the Tassell family. Tom Sandlant seems to have been on 74a, which had been heavily timbered but he had cleared it.)
However, the 1919-20 rates reveal that L.Tassell of Footscray was assessed on 25 acres, part 13A, Kangerong. This was roughly a third of the 77 acre allotment, granted to Frances Windsor fronting the south side of McIlroys Rd with an extension of Andrews and Nashs Lanes indicating the west and east boundaries.
In my trove research on the Tassells, I found many references to Dr Robert Tassell, a station master that spent four and a half years at Tooradin (South Bourke and Mornington Journal 22-8-1918) and families at Geelong, Orange Grove Nth Essendon and to the east of Melbourne but none that could be tied to the Safety Beach pioneers.I recall a death notice referring to Deer Park, which is not far from Footscray, so there may have been a connection there, given L.Tassell's address in 1919.
Watson Eaton is thought to have come from America with the Griffith family. They farmed together on the Survey while Watson's brother,Bernard F.Eaton, dug just as willingly at Creswick,constructing a "race". Bernard had returned to the Dromana area by 1888 and employed the sons of other Survey pioneers at the Tubbarubba diggings for seven years during which he found only seven ounces of gold, according to THE RED HILL. After Abraham Griffith's death, Watson probably cared for Abraham's widow, Rebecca (nee Hurley),and after Watson's death in 1877, Rebecca administered his will and, rather belatedly,Abraham's. Residents from miles around subscribed towards a marble memorial (now on display in the Dromana Historical Society museum) to acknowledge their appreciation of Watson's medical services after his death - despite the fact that he had admitted being an unregistered practitioner and had never attended university. (P.6, Argus, 3-2-1873. NYALL V SCURFIELD.)
Watson and the Griffith family must have been on the Survey by 1852.
THIS IS WHAT I'VE SPENT YEARS LOOKING FOR. I EVENTUALLY FOUND THE ARTICLE BY TRACING MY EARLY JOURNALS BACK TO WHERE I HAD GIVEN THE SOURCE FOR WATSON EATON'S ADMISSION AND IT WASN'T AT AN INQUEST AS I HAD THOUGHT.
THIS IS WHY I HADN'T FOUND IT ON TROVE.
A\ atson 1 aton a fauna neai rtnimna -
I have been pnetismg medicine foi the last
20 jems I mu not a icgistei.d pnctitionei
Neva was at a univasitj Iliac is no
dot toi ni the neighbourhood
AND IN ENGLISH!
Watson Eaton, a farmer near Dromana-
I have been practising medicine for the last 20 years. I am not a registered practitioner. Never was at a university. There is no doctor in the neighbourhood. (P.6,Argus,3-2-1873.)
EXTRACT FROM MY MANUSCRIPT "DRAMA (DROMANA,ROSEBUD AND MILES AROUND) ON TROVE" circa 2011.
The Scurfields were still in the hotel in 1869 and were witnesses in a trial. Patrick Nyall had been a Catholic Priest in Schnapper Point (Mornington) and Dromana since 1853. In those days Kangerong had a much larger population than Mornington (as Scurfield told the Governor in 1858- The Argus 29-10-1858 page 4.) Most of them lived on Jamiesons Special Survey, including the Peateys and Clydesdales who were later witnesses for Nyall.
A ship called the Hurricane had been wrecked near Dromana and its mate or chief officer, George Fairlem, had spent some time in charge of guarding the cargo or salvaging it. On the fateful night, George was staying at the hotel when Father Nyall arrived to stay the night on his way to The Heads. To cut a long story short the priest attempted to molest George, received a thrashing from him and was later charged and convicted on the evidence of the Scurfields and Constable William OâShannassy (The Argus 18-9-1869 page 5.)
In 1873, Nyall, defrocked by this time, tried to restore his reputation by charging the Scurfields and OâShannassy with perjury. He had probably enlisted Cecilia Murray, who pretended to be a nun, to convince the faithful to bend the truth a bit so that God could help poor Nyall. Although Clydesdale does not seem much like a Catholic surname, James Clydesdale had married Julia Cahill according to this familyâs genealogy which you will see later. Susan Peatey was probably living at the North east corner of Harrisons Rd with Julia Clydesdale 290 metres east of their 100 acre farm. Because of run off from Arthurs Seat, the Peateysâ land was too wet for farming (crops), forcing a move to Rosebud (behind the school) in 1888. No doubt the Clydesdales had the same problem and apparently both women did cleaning at the Scurfield to help put food on the table. Susan testified that Nyallâs snuff box was found in his own room, rather than Fairemâs, and Julia said that sheâd heard OâShannassy and Mrs Scurfield conspiring to hide this âfactâ. George Peatey said that a boy called Harry Watkins had been going outside during the original trial to tell OâShannassy what the witnesses were saying.
Watson Eaton was also a witness but a question to him intended to show that OâShannassy was a drunk was ruled out of order. It is of interest that Watson, who is discussed elsewhere in this book, stated that he had been practicing medicine in the district since 1853 because there was no doctor and that he had never been to university. Nyallâs lawyers accused the Scurfields and the constable of looting cargo from the Hurricane. The case was dismissed.(The Argus 3-2-1873 page 6.)
From my journal THE AMERICAN BACKGROUND GENEALOGY OF THE GRIFFITH FAMILY OF DROMANA.
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Esther Davis and William Griffith were witnesses at a wedding at Sadsbury. Monthly Meeting ...... Watson Eaton was a despondent at his inquest. He wrote: "The
Notes for JONAH GRIFFITH:
Abraham is the son of Jonah Griffith, grandson of Abraham & Elizabeth
This is the story of Abraham. He was born in Lancaster County, PA in the year
1816. He is reported as being "the captain of a whaling ship out of Philadelphia"
but I can find nothing to prove this. He met his wife Rebecca Hurley in PA and
they were married in Blair County. Sometime after this they went on the Oregon
Trail but apparently came back to PA. They had five children, but when they came
to Australia, they only had three with them so presumably the other two had died.
On the seventh day of March 1855 a small barque entered the heads and sailed
into Port Phillip Bay. She was the "Nimrod" out of New York. Her captain was G.C.
Whiting and she carried a cargo of wheels, lobsters, furniture, scales and seventy
passengers. The Nimrod weighed in at 450 tons, built in Maine in 1849. Aboard
the Nimrod was Abraham Griffith, his wife Rebecca and three children; Arthamece
aged 15, John Calvin aged 9 and Jonah aged 7. Abraham and Rebecca had two
other sons but as they did not come to Australia it is presumed they had died. The
two boys who presumably died were William Harris and Sylvester. Family lore has
it that Abraham was interested in gold and 1855 was the height of the Victoria
Gold rush. They are believed to have arrived with a "black servant" and a
With the sub-division of Crown Lands in 1854, more settlers were attracted to the
district, among them being Richard Watkins, an Englishman who is credited with
building the first house in the township. In 1857 he was joined by Abraham
Abraham grew a crop of maize that was the "wonder of the district." They lived on
rented land on Jamison's Survey until the Land Act of 1869 brought changes
allowing settlers to select tracts of less than 350 acres, and those who lived on
the Survey made their application. In 1879 Abraham had 150 acres. In censuses
and old books of the time he is variously described as a farmer, builder and
contractor. He and Rebecca had no children born in Australia. Unfortunately little
is known of Abraham in Victoria. In 1861 he is a patron of the National School,
whatever that was, perhaps a forerunner of the State Schools. In 1861, he signed
a document praising a schoolteacher. On this document is also the signature of his
friend and partner, Watson Eaton. Nothing more is heard of Abraham until March
1874 when he had an accident at Mt. Martha and was injured from which injuries
he died a few days later.
Watson Eaton was a despondent at his inquest. He wrote: "The deceased Abraham
Griffith about 58 years old was my partner. I saw him the day before he was
brought by Mr. Wiseman. His wife and I found him a good deal agitated. The next
three days he was going about and he was able to explain what had happened to
him. He said the horses ran away with him and that he kept them on the road but
could not keep them away from the saplings. He said the accident would not have
happened but for the saplings."
Abraham is buried in the cemetery at Dromana, as is Rebecca. In company with
about twenty other old graves they are kept tidy by the Dromana Historical
Society. Unfortunately no records have survived as to which grave is which and the
sea winds have worn the inscriptions from the headstones. Jonah is buried there
with his wife as is John Calvin and his wife and Abraham's great grandson Ves
(Sylvester) and his wife.
Child of JONAH (GRIFFITH)and ELIZABETH HARRIS is:
GRIFFITH, b. Abt. 1816; d. Australia; m. REBECCA HURLEY; d. Australia.
It would seem that Abraham and Rebecca were on the other side of the bay before settling on the survey in 1858.
The many friends of Mrs R. Griffith mother of Cr J. C. Griffith will regret to hear of her death which occurred at her residence on Tuesday 21st inst, although the deceased lady had been ailing for some time her death was not expected. Mrs Griffith was one of the oldest residents of the district, landing on these shores in a small boat from Geelong with her family in 1858.(P.3,Mornington Standard, 30-6-1898.)
A descendant of Sarah Wilson asked for some material I'd promised to provide so I consulted my journal HOW DID SARAH WILSON LEAD ME TO HENRY TUCK? which explains that John Calvin Griffith had married Mary Dowling. Jonah (Dohn) Griffith had married Sarah Sawyer who was the daughter of Isaac and Sarah Sawyer. Her mother, a daughter of Henry Prosser*, had been twice a widow before she died at Jonah and Sarah Griffith's house.
(*See my journal RENOUF ON THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA.)
The children of Arthamecy,Jonah and John are given on pages 69-70 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.
RENOUF.âOn the 15th July, at her daughter's residence, Dromana, Sarah, widow of the late Amice Renouf, Frankston, and dearly beloved mother of Mrs. Jonah Griffith (Dromana), Mrs.John Hopcroft (Caulfield), Mrs. H. Sawyer(Neerim South), Mr. H. Sawyer ("Sylvan," Neerim Junction, Gippsland), Mr. J. Sawyer(Moorooduc), Mr. F. Sawyer (Bittern); grandmother of Mr. Alex Henry and his sister, Mrs.W. Martin (Mt. Eliza), aged 93 years. A colonist of 68 years.(P.13,Argus, 29-7-1916.)
In A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, Colin McLear gave details of all the children of councillor John Calvin Griffith of Dromana and Mary. Mary Who?
Having all the details of Christie Johnstone's descent from Oliver and Sarah Wilson, I entered "Henry Tuck, obituary" and got what seemed at first hand to be a useless response. But it wasn't, despite the journalist's usual error of rendering Griffith as Griffiths. Mary must have been Mary Dowling!
OBITUARY. DEATH OF MRS. C. DOWLING, By the death of Mrs Catherine Dowling, as mentioned in our last issue, another very old resident of the Mornington Peninsula has been removed from our midst. Mrs Dowling had reached the ripe old age of 86 years at the time of death. Although she was not suffering from any painful illness, she had been gradually failing under the pressure of her advanced years for some considerable time, and her death was not unexpected. She was possessed of an exceedingly kindly, warm hearted disposition, and very many old residents of the district, as well as the younger generation, will remember her as a true friend who had always a kindly word, and was ready to do a kindly action for anyone with whom she came into contact. The deceased lady was born in County Wicklow, Ireland, and reached Melbourne with her husband-who predeceased her by some nineteen years-in the ship " Marco Pauls " on Christmas Day, 1852. She was thus a colonist of nearly 59 years. After spending eight years, in other parts of Victoria, the Dowlings came to Stony Creek, now known as Shoreham, in the year 1860, and they were the first settlers to actually reside on their own holding in this locality, which was a portion of Tuck's Old Manton's Creek run. The country was, at the time of their acquiring the land, in a very rough state, and Mrs Dowling had many interesting incidents of hardships to relate. Her quaint sense of quiet humor always made these reminiscences pleasant to listen to. Their first homestead, a slab erection on the banks of the Creek, was totally destroyed by the collapse of a giant gum tree one very stormy night. In this instance Mr and Mrs Dowling had a very narrow escape from death. A large fork of the tree came down on each side of the bed upon which they were sleeping. Upon another occasion Mr Dowling, when some little distance away from the homestead, was forced by the ferocity of the dingoes to take refuge and spend the night up in the branches of a tree. Of Mrs Dowling's family three daughters and one son, all of whom are well known throughout the Peninsula, are surviving. These are Mrs J. C. Griffiths of Dromana; Mr* Joseph Stanley. of Balnarring; Mrs West, and Mr Christy Dowling, who was living at "The Glen" with his mother at the time of her death. The recent demise of one daughter, Mrs Henry Tuck, of Flinders, is sadly re- membered by her friends, as is also that of another daughter, Mrs J. West. A son, Mr Thomas Dowling, died some years ago, and another son expired in infancy. The remains of the deceased lady were interred in the Flinders general cemetery, when a very large number of people attended the funeral to show their last respects.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 5-8-1911.)
The claim that Jamieson engaged agents to handle the Survey in 1851 seems groundless; the Bank of Australasia probably owned the survey even before Henry Dunn started his lease.
BY ORDER OF THE MORTGAGEE.
5,120 ACRES,PARISH OF KANGERONG, COUNTY UNNAMED. ( Mornington dummies)
A Grant by Purchase to Hugh Jamieson, and a Special Survey.
TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION BY Mr SAMUEL LYONS, at his Mart,George-street and Charlotte-place, on
THURSDAY, 8th February, 1844, at Twelve o'clock precisely.
As per Deed of Grant, under the hand and seal of his Excellency Sir George Gipps, dated 18th day of October, 1841.
All that piece or parcel of land, containing by admeasurement five thousand one hundred and twenty acres, be the same more or less, situated in the county (unnamed), and parish of Kangerong, near Mount Martha-
bounded on the west by Port Phillip Bay ; on the north by a line about ten chains south of Mount Martha,
bearing east three hundred and twenty-eight chains seventy-five links; on the east by a line bearing south one hundred and sixty chains; and on the south by a line bearing west three hundred and sixty-nine chains seventy-five links being the land advertised as Lot 6 in the Government Notice dated 8th June, 1841.
A Cottage has been erected on the estate, and other improvements have been made thereon.
Terms at sale. 758 (P.4, The Sydney Morning Herald,17-1-1844.)
WORD OF MOUTH?
Thereafter the agents don't seem to have advertised any portions of the survey for lease,the only mention of the survey being as a locator to describe crown land advertised for sale. In 1895 Worrell and Moody applied for a mining lease on the eastern part of Sir William Clarke's portion and land owned by Alfred Downward who was occupying both pieces of land. The action started after 1900.
The part of the survey north of the line of the Martha Cove Waterway was one of John Vans Agnew Bruce's many land purchases. He died in 1863 and in 1872, they were all advertised for sale, the survey land being lot 12.
It obviously did not sell, with both portions of the survey, the Clarke Estate and Bruce Estate, being advertised in subdivision lots from about 1905.The southern boundary of Bruce's portion (Brokil Creek)was of course called Bruce's Creek but the name that endured was that of Edwin Louis Tassell, tenant from about 1860 till his death.
Lot 12. The Mount Martha Estate 1004 acres. It is situate between Schnapper Point and Dromana, with a large frontage to the bay and the Schnapper Point road*. It cuts through the southern shoulder of the mount for its northern boundary, gradually sloping to the valley and bank of Bruce's Creek, all enclosed, capital soil,
well grassed, lightly timbered, and having now on it 700 sheep, 40 head cattle and horses, which might be quadrupled by the introduction of English grasses &c. (P.2,Argus,1-1-1872.) *Moorooduc Rd.
THE BRUCE ESTATE.
When I talked the nice fellas at the P.R.O.V.into supplying free copies of the subdivision plan of the Clarke Estate,I didn't want to push my luck. I will not be able to provide locations of any lots mentioned.
This advertisement (extracts only) gives some detail not included in the February 1902 advertisement.
7 MARINE RESIDENCE SITES, containing from 4 to 7 acres, fronting the (PROPOSED!)Esplanade or Foreshore-road, running from MORNINGTON TO DROMANA, on the southern slope of Mt. Martha, and commanding an uninterrupted view across the Bay, embracing the South Channel, the battery, Mud Island and the coast line, with its hamlets and towns, and ever varying objects to and through the Heads, as beautiful in detail as it is vast in extent, and presenting a never ending feast to the eye, while the grand ranges which divide Dromana from the ocean, and such a romantic character to the island scenery, temper the south-west gales.
Some of the lots actually go to the water's edge, thus giving the fortunate owner the EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO THE SHORE which in older countries would be deemed invaluable. Being close to the town of Dromana, there is during the summer months daily access to the city by steamer and at all times by tram (SIC, TRAIN) and coach, and as for rides and drives, no watering place compares in that respect with DROMANA,........
Also 42-ACRE HOMESTEAD BLOCK bounded on 3* sides by Government roads and securely fenced. It is beautifully situated, with clumps of trees thereon; in fact an IDEAL RESIDENCE SITE.(P.2, Mornington Standard, 26-1-1901.)
*This indicates that Ben Stenniken at one time occupied the homestead block (P.45 A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA), that the residence of the Bruce family during the "season" was probably the homestead built by Edward Hobson circa 1837,one of the grandest in the Port Phillip District at the time (I SUCCEEDED ONCE Marie Fels) and that Maria Stenniken didn't walk along the Sea Lane to go to work. The three Government roads would have been the unmade Ellerina Rd, and the Nepean Highway and Three Chain (Moorooduc) Road which merge at McKenzie's Junction (Melway 151 C7.) More detail in the MARIA STENNIKEN entry.
Friday, 14th February. At 2 o'Clock. On the Ground.
DROMANA. Near MT. MARTHA,BAY FRONTAGES.UNSURPASSED MARINE RESIDENCE SITES:
Also AGRICULTURAL AREAS,In Lots to suit the Small Farmer, the Market Gardener and Others Practising Intense culture. RICK ALLUVIAL FLAT,Part of Jamieson's Special Survey. Renowned for the Excellence and Productiveness of the toil, Especially that of the Well Watered Flats,
JOHN BUCHEN and Co,are instructed by the trustees of the late J. V. A.Bruce (i.e.Junior)to sell by public auction, on the ground, on 14th February, at 2 o'clock in the afternoon,
7 MARINE RESIDENCE SITES.from 5 to 7 acres fronting Esplanade, or Foreshore;
400 ACES RICH ALLUVIAL LAND,divided into 8 lots about 50 acres each;
84 ACRES ORCHARD LAND,in 2 lots, on the side of Mt Martha
426 ACRES GRAZING LAND divided into 5 blocks from 47 to 130 acres;
42 ACRE HOMESTEAD BLOCK. (P.2,Mornington Standard, 8-2-1902.)
Messrs John Buchan and Sons offered in Melbourne on the 18th 550 acres of the unsold portions of Bruce's Estate,Mt Martha. It was passed in.(P.4,Mornington Standard,3-1-1903.)
Messrs John Buchan and Co. have sold 220 acres, at Mt. Martha, the remainder of Bruce's estate, on behalf of the trustees, at the price of Â£1 10s per acre, the purchaser being Mr James Connell, of Tuerong.
(P.2 Mornington Standard, 1-7-1905.)
Mr. Callaghan, of Melbourne, who was a large buyer in Clarke's Estate at Dromana, has purchased a number of blocks at Mt. Martha, including 90 acres from the executors of Bruce's Estate.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 13-7-1907.)
THE CLARKE ESTATE.
LAND AT DROMANA.
MORNINGTON, Monday.-Sir Rupert Clarke's estate at Dromana, situated between Mount Martha and Red Hill, running
to within a quarter of a mile of the Dromana township, and containing 4000 acres of grazing and agricultural land, mostly black flats, is to be subdivided and offered for sale in 1907, at the conclusion of the present tenants' leases. (P.8,Argus,10-10-1906.)
Land Sale at Mornington
There was a good attendance at the subdivisional sale of 4,350 acres of agricultural and grazing land situated
near Dromana, held at the Mornington Mechanics' on Wednesday afternoon. The sale was conducted by Mr. Keast,
M.L.A., who acted in conjunction with John Buchan and Co., and J.W.Hazeldine, on behalf of the Executrix and Executor of the Estate of the late Sir W. J. Clarke. The land was offered in suitable blocks for closer settlement, but evidently it was considered to be unfit for that purpose by Melbourne buyers, as they were
conspicuous by their absence.
With the exception of a Melbourne speculator, Mr P. Callaghan, who secured 1,594 acres, mostly at low rates, the rest of the estate was purchased by local residents, of whom Messrs. Gibson (710 acres), and Downward
778 acres, were the largest purchasers. The highest price paid was Â£8 7s 6d per acre for 10 acres near Dromoana
township, the buyer being Mr.Rudduck. The Shire of Flinders and Kangerong failed to secure the 20 acres, containing a quarry reserve.
There was loud applause, when Mr. H.Griffiths' bid secured the homestead block, containing 205 acres, at Â£5 per
acre, and the action of a Dromana man in bidding against Mr. Griffiths, and running him from Â£3 to Â£5, was regarded as a most unneighbourly thing to do. The land was sold at a price,which considering the price of land in other parts of Victoria, must be regarded as very cheap, 4,076 acres were sold at an average price of Â£2 4s
per acre. Mr. Keast did not waste much time over the lots, and succeeded in disposing of the Estate, with the
exception of a number of frontage blocks, in under an hour. Mr. William Hewitt was present on behalf of Sir
Rupert Clarke, who had sailed to England the previous day.
The sales effected were as follows:
No. BLOCK Acre Rd Per Buyer Price per acre LOCATION
1. 56 .1.10 W. Gibson: Â£3.- Pickings Rd N, Tassell Rd houses E, Clyde Rd houses S, Dromana Pde. W.
2. 52.0.17 P. Callaghan Â£1 15 - Balmoral Ave houses N, Mary St E, Frank St houses S,Dromana Pde. W.
3. 25.o. 30 W. Gibson: .Â£5 -Fleming St houses N, George St houses E, Nepean Hwy S,Dromana Pde. W.
4. 25. 1. 3 W. Gibson Â£4 - Adjoins Frank St houses N, Village Life Ret. Vill. N.E. cnr., S.E.cnr opp. Dromana Garden Supplies, adjoins George St houses W.
5. 32.0.6 W. Gibson Â£4 5s -Fairway Dr houses N, S.E.cnr.opp.south bound on ramps,Nep. Hwy S, Mary St W.
6. 129. 3. 11 W. Gibson .Â£3- Pickings Rd N, Holiday Village/Drive in boundary E, Nep.Hwy S, Adjoins Tassell Rd houses W.
7. 129.3.30 W. Gibson Â£2/10 -Pickings Rd N, adjoins lot 6 contains all courts north of Lake View Dr.& drive in.
8. 121.4. 34 W. Gibson Â£3 - Pickings Rd N, contains 10th-14th holes,SE cnr opp.the l in Bald Hill.
9. 205.1.12 H. Griffiths .Â£5 - Adjoins 8.NW Bluestone cottage, NE end of Pickings Lane, Nep.Hwy east and south.
Lots 10-19 were on the east side of Moorooduc Rd,which,south of McKenzies Junction, was renamed the Nepean Highway. Lots 10 to 14 were south of Patterson's Lane (now Wallaces Rd) and lots 15-19 north from Wallaces Rd to the southern boundary of the Bruce Estate (which will be detailed before lot 15.)
10. 134.0.20 W, Gibson Â£3/17/ 6- sealed part of Wallaces Rd N, Nep.Hwy W, Mel.160 K4, parts 161 A3-4.
11. 130.1.18 N. Rudduck Â£2/15 -Nep. Hwy W, NE cnr at bottom of 161A4, Dunns Ck Rd S with SE cnr opp. No 665.
12. 270. 2. 11A. Downward L1/12/6-Adjoins 10 and 11. NW=u in unsealed, NE=Wallaces Rd bend in top right cnr of 161C3, SE cnr= C in C788, SW cnr=No. 665.
13. 307.1. 5 P. Callaghan Â£1 -NW Wallaces Rd bend in 161 C3,NE+ halfway across 161G3, SE=top left cnr of 161C7, SW=C in C788.
13A. 20 Qu'ry Site P. Callaghan Â£3- Square block at Sw cnr of 13 measuring 14cm x 14cm on Melway.
14. 532.1. 0 P. Callaghan Â£1 -East of lot 13 to line of Bulldog Creek Rd, Dromana boundary on East and South.
All but lot 19 have Wallaces Rd as a southern boundary and all but lot 18 adjoin Bruce's estate at the north. The boundary between Clarke's Estate and Bruce's Estate is a line joining the south end of the Marine Drive tunnel (Melway 150 E11)to Bulldog Creek Rd 1.5 mm below the bottom of 151 K12. McKenzies Junction (151 B12) is the north west corner of lot 19.
15. 354.2. 0 P. Callaghan Â£1-West from Bulldog Creek Rd to Turramurra Estate Vineyard at S and Bulldog Ck at N.
16. 260 .0.37 H Downward Â£1 5 -West of lot 15 to middle of 151 E12 at N,and opp. 200 Wallaces Rd at S.
17. 249. 1. 0 H. Downward Â£1/5/0 -West of lot 16 to middle of top of 151 C12 at N and Wallaces Rd bend between Nos 135 and 120.
The purchaser of lots 18 and 19 was probably Godfrey Patterson who would have been named after Godfrey Burdett Wilson. Colin McLear states that Wallaces Rd was known to all as Patterson's Lane. Both run west from lot 17 to the highway, the Hickinbotham of Dromana Winery (top of 160 B2) being in the north east corner of lot 18 and lot 19 extending north to McKenzies Junction.
18. 143.2.18 G. Patterson Â£2 10 -see italics above.
19. 143. 0.23 G. Patterson Â£2 10 -see italics above.
Lots 20-24 were between the Nepean Highway and Dromana Parade with all but lot 20 fronting Pickings Rd/Lane in the south and all but lot 21 adjoining Bruce's estate at the line joining Martha Cove Waterway and McKenzies Junction.Lots 20 and 21 went west from the highway to a line joining points between Island Drive and the waterway in 150 J11 (N) and the west end of Pickings Lane.
20. 125.3.0 W. Kefford Â£2/5/0 -North of a line joining point just below Drain in 150 H12 and C787 just below 151 A12.
21. 121.0.6 P. Callaghan L2/15/0- South of the line described above to Pickings Lane.
22. 127.2.37 G. B. Wilson Â£3 10-West of 20 and 21 to and including Island Drive house lots to Brindabella Point roundabout.
23. 127. 0.19 G. B. Wilson Â£4 -West from lot 22 to and including Rymer St houses.
24 226.3.6 P. Callaghan Â£3 -West to Dromana Pde.
Lots 25 to 54 were all roughly 5 acres between Dromana Pde and the coast. They were all about 10 chains deep and there was no provision for Marine Drive. Thus it is possible that the original coast road from Mornington to Dromana was the Esplanade/Ellerina Rd/Mt Martha Rd and Dromana Pde.
53. 5 N.Rudduck Â£8/7/6 -Six chain (120 m)frontage to shore and 186 m Pt Nepean Rd frontage from shore.
54. 5 N. Rudduck Â£8/7/6- about 140 metre frontage to Pt Nepean Rd and 100 m frontage to Dromana Pde.
For block 55, containing 242 acres, Â£1 was offered by Mr. H. P. Davey, but was passed in for private sale, as were 26 blocks, containing 5 acres each, with a frontage to Port Phillip Bay. For these blocks Â£5 , was offered, the reserve being Â£6.(P.2,Mornington Standard, 27-4-1907.)
From my SAFETY BEACH AND THE SURVEY journal.
SURVEY OCCUPANTS FROM THE RATEBOOKS.
3-9-1864.W.J.T.(Big) Clarke 2760 acres (i.e. untenanted); Joseph Clark N.A.V. 2 pounds; Charles Dyson, house and garden, N.A.V. 6 pounds; Watson Eaton, 100 acres, 20 cultivated,large house and garden; Abraham Griffiths (sic) no details,N.AV. 35 pounds;Henry ?, house and 20 acres; Walter Gibson hut and 36 acres; John Gibson hut and 80 acres 20 cultivated; William Marshall 2 roomed hut and 70 cres; James Mitchell hut; Charles Ray house and 1000 acres, fenced; Louis Edward (sic) Tassell house and 1000 acres (leased from Big Clarke who had not yet sold the Brokil Estate to Bruce); Henry Wilson hut.
1865.Charles Dyson had a 2 roomed house and 59 acres but my notes do not specify the Survey.Watson Eaton 210 acres and 4 roomed house; Abraham Griffiths- no details; Thomas Farnby 14 acres, 1 roomed house (survey not specified); Walter Gibson 249 acres and 2 roomed house; William Marshall 60 acres, 2 roomed house;Charles Ray 1000 acres and 2 roomed house; Edwin Louis Tassell 1000 acres and 2 roomed house.
1879. W.J.Clarke (Big Clarke's son) 2128 acres; George Elliman 10 acres; Rebecca Griffiths(sic)947 acres; Jonah(Dohn)Griffiths (sic)50 acres; Walter Gibson 525 acres; Charles Ray 400 acres.
1900. Despite properties in the parish of Wannaeue being fairly well described the rate collector had no idea where properties in the parish of Kangerong were. Some of the following property would have been on the survey, and although I could determine how much was,I can't spare the weeks it would take.
Alf Downward 1100 acres; John Calvin Griffith 1650 acres. Sir William Clarke (or Rupert Clarke)does not seem to have been assessed on at least 1200 acres;no wonder the Shire was soon nearly broke!
1910.James Connell farmer Mornington 238 acres, lots 3-6 Bruce's; James Connell farmer Tuerong 230 acres 1, 2 Bruce's;Patrick Callaghan, Melbourne Agent, 242 acres Clarke's,12 acres 21 and 22 Bruce's, 152 acres 25 and 54 of Clarke's, 30 acres part 24 Clarke's,243 acres lot 55 Clarke's (and possibly another 593 acres with lot numbers but no mention of Clarke or Bruce); Alf Downward 270 acres lot 12 Clarke's, 120 acres Clarke's,508 acres lots 16, 17 Clarke's; John Calvin Griffith 205 acres lot 9 Clarke's; Walter Gibson 528 acres lots 1, 3-8 Clarke's, 400 acres 4, 9, 9A, 10 Clarke's, 130 acres 10 of Clarke's; O.A.Kefford, inspector,126 acres,lot 20 Clarke's; R.B. and S.F.Morrow 325 acres 21 and part 24 Clarke's;Ralph Godfrey Patterson 287 acres lots 18,19 Clarke's; Nelson and Jane Sophia Rudduck 130 acres lot 11 Clarke's; John E.Thompson 406 acres 13, part 14 Clarke's; Godfrey Burdett Wilson 255 acres 22,23 Clarke's.
Notice how the shire's possible bankruptcy could be avoided by rating both Griffith and Gibson on lot 9 and rating Gibson twice on his bull paddock ,lot 10! Don't let this happen to you!!
1920. Alf Downward 270 acres lot 12 special survey (henceforth s.s.);Herb Downward 509 acres 16,17 s.s.; William John McNabb replacing Patrick Fleming but both crossed out, 52 acres lot 2 s.s.; William Gibson 659 acres lots 1, 3-8, 10 s.s.; Bertram John Davey 446 acres lot 13,part 14 s.s.; Owen E. Kefford 125 acres lot 20 s.s.; Jennings Brothers, Rye (crossed out) 280 acres lots 18,19 s.s.; Perpetual Executors and Agency Co (Dutton owner) 318 acres lot 21, 24 s.s.;Cyril Smith, Mornington 468 acres lots 1, 2, 3, 6 s.s.; Mrs Maria Wilson (the former servant at Bruce's house and Godfrey's widow)254 acres lots 22, 23 s.s.;Ben Wilson (named after Ben Stenniken of course)150 acres lot 5 s.s.; Henry Burdett Coutts Wilson,Sorrento,100 acres part 5 s.s.;
Sam Wilson (named after Sam Sherlock, brother of the wife of Ben Stenniken) 180 acres part 5 s.s.
I thought I'd check how many acres were in lot 5, which was split among Ben, Henry and Sam Wilson.Guess what, lot 5 consisted of 32 acres!
MARIA STENNIKEN AND BULLOCKY WILSON'S SURVEY BLOCK.
Except in wartime and the 1890's depression,peninsula men married their neighbours. So how did Maria Stenniken of Rye come to marry Godfrey Burdett Wilson of Dromana?
PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QUOTE BOTTOM P.43 AND P. 45 OF A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.
"In the early 1860's,he(Henry William Wilson) moved to Dromana. He had a bullock dray and four bullocks and lived in a slab hut on what was later to become Walter Gibson's Number 10 paddock of 125 acres, then part of Jamieson's Special Survey." (Lot 10 is south of the Wallaces Rd corner,roughly Melway 160K4.)
"Godfrey (Burdett Wilson's) wife Maria was from a pioneering family on the Peninsula.The Stennikens had property at Rye but also at Dromana where they had a triangular block, the base of which was formed by Nepean Highway and the sides of Moorooduc Road and the higher reaches of Tassell's Creek."
In the advertisement for the 42 acre homestead block on the Bruce Estate,it is described as being surrounded by three Government roads. That meant the land had been reserved for the roads, not that they had been made. Moorooduc Rd was the original HIGHWAY to Dromana, its original name of three chain road indicating that this was so; travellers from Frankston would get to it via Olivers Hill, Old Mornington Rd, Mt Eliza Way and Wooralla Drive. Normal Government roads were only one chain (20 metres) wide. The parish of Moorooduc shows the Nepean Highway as a one chain road leading from Mt Eliza Way/Wooralla Dr to Melway 151 C5 and continuing south west as Forest Dr while two tracks are shown running much as the highway does through the Mt Martha pre-emptive right ("Dalkeith"). These were both gazetted in the early 1880's.
Colin McLear's description of the Stenniken triangular block (in bold type above)is rather misleading as to the base of the triangle. The base (most southerly part) of the triangle was actually the junction of the minor road that became the Nepean Highway and the three chain road (Moorooduc Rd),or in other words, McKenzies Junction (Melway 151 B12.)This was almost exactly a mile north of Wallace's Rd and Lot 10 of Clarke's Estate where Henry William Wilson had his hut as shown in the 1864 rates above.The northern boundary of Stenniken's triangular block was a road reserve that is now indicated by Ellerina/Bruce/Foxey's Rd across which the upper reaches of Tassell's Creek flowed at the north west corner of Stenniken's triangle. As the road existed only on parish maps,Colin could not name it as the northern boundary of Stenniken's triangle,hence the reference to Tassells Creek. (This broken road of many names is the boundary of the parishes of Kangerong and Moorooduc (to the north.)
Stenniken's triangle WAS Bruce's 42 acre Homestead Block,surrounded by Moorooduc Rd (E),Nepean Highway(W) and Ellerina Rd(N).Ben Stenniken may have fattened cattle there and his wife (nee Sherlock)may have been caretaker at the magnificent house erected by Jamieson sometime between 1841 and 1844 when the survey was lost to a mortgagee (or perhaps earlier by Edward Hobson when he was squatting there-see map in I SUCCEEDED ONCE.) Naturally the children,including Maria,would go with their parents and after a bit of cleaning, another trip to see Uncle Sam (Sherlock) at Green Island might be on the cards before heading back west. On the way home,they'd pass Henry Wilson's hut on lot 10 of the Clarke Estate. This would have happened before 1865 when Bullocky Henry Wilson became Butcher Henry Wilson and took over the McLears' slaughtering operations on Maryfield.
And that's how Godfrey Burdett Wilson and Maria Stenniken, who married in 1878, met each other!
Godfrey and Maria would have lived at Beauvoir (still standing at 8 McCulloch St, Dromana) which Godfrey had built in the 1880's. It was named after the Beauvoir Arms Hotel in London which Godfrey's father had run before they came to Australia. Godfrey died in 1919 and his widow, Maria, lived in Burdett Cottage in Heales St until her death in 1927. Burdett Cottage was used to house the bush nursing hospital until the hospital was built on Nelson Rudduck's donated 3 acres of Karadoc. (Henry William Wilson had married Thamer Burdett, hence Godfrey's second given name and the name of the cottage.)
SAFETY BEACH AFTER 1920. (From my journal SAFETY BEACH AND THE SURVEY.)
MR JAGGER AND BILLY.
Billy wasn't a person. When Mr Jagger,who lived and milked a few cows on a small Survey block of about 5 *acres delivered Dromana's milk,he put it into each customer's billy. (*Between Dromana Pde and the shore.)
EXCERPT FROM MY "THE FEMALE DROVER:A HISTORY OF MOOROODUC".
MILK FOR DROMANA.
In the early 1930s much of Dromana's milk was delivered by a Mr Jagger, who had a few acres in Safety Beach, probably near Link Drive. Jagger milked a few cows himself but the bulk of his milk came from the Bournes. He would pick up their milk churns from their front gate (at the east end of Range Rd,formerly White's Lane)and commence his round from there.
Between about 1935 and 1940, Mr Fenton took over the round. He had about 50 acres thought to be in the vicinity of Callas St. This was James Boag's old "Melrose"dairy/guest house by Palmerstone Ave opposite the head of Seacombe St which became the Turner Estate. (A Dreamtime of Dromana.) Once again the Bournes were his only supplier. The Fentons called their house Melrose.
Roy and Pearl Drew took over the 50 acres and the milk round in about 1940, relying on milk from the Bourne farm until the end of the war. Roy and Pearl must have had some energy left at bedtime because they had 17 children! It is likely that the Turner Estate was subdivided soon afterwards to accommodate the many young men returning from the war and making up for lost time by starting families.
Bill and Emily Bourne switched to cream production in 1945. They sold it to Mr Roberts who collected the cream cans from the front gate and took it to Moorooduc Station to be transported to Melbourne.
MR BEAN AND THE RACING CARS.
DROMANAS MR BEAN. Herbert Josiah Bean was the man on whose property the new golf course was constructed. The land also had some sort of a speedway with a gravel surface on it. The R.A.C.V. conducted speed challenges on it; by a strange coincidence our Mr Bean was the President of the club. (Argus 1-10-1931 page 8 and 3-12-1928 page 17 re the Safety Beach circuit; proceeds went to the Dromana Bush Nursing Hospital.) Herbert sold land to Mrs Guilfoyle and their dispute is reported on page 11 of the Argus of 21-7-1926. Herbert was a merchant of Flinders Lane. It would appear that the Lochley Chase Guest House would have occupied only a small portion of Beans original property.
Now we will look at an article on page 13 in The Argus of 27-11-1928, about nine years after the last assessment available on microfiche.
SPORTS AT DROMANA. Opening New Course. Safety Beach, Dromana has been chosen by the Royal Automobile Club of Victoria as the site for acceleration and speed tests on Saturday, December 1st. Safety Beach is the name which has been given to a level stretch of foreshore extending from the south side of Mt Martha for about two miles to the outskirts of Dromana Township. The tests will not be held on the beach but on level gravel roads which have been laid in a wide stretch of plain extending back from the sea to the Point Nepean road. This is an old grazing property that has been taken up recently for residential development. There are about 750 acres in the plain and the new roads which have been levelled, graded and coated with gravel, have a total length of about seven miles. The corners of the roads have been rounded and widened to allow for the swinging of the cars on the turns. The country is slightly undulating but the roads have no considerable gradients. There are some clumps of scrub on the land but a view of the whole course will be available from almost any position.
Alongside the portion of the estate where the tests will be held are areas reserved for a golf course and an aerodrome. The aerodrome will come into use on the day of the tests, for there is to be a race between an aeroplane and a car. Mr J.McLaren, an official of the Light Car Club, has arranged for a plane to be brought from the Coode Island Airport for the event. Mr McLaren has lately taken up flying and is having a plane constructed for his personal use at the Larkin Aircraft Works at Coode Island. He expects to make Safety Beach a regular rendezvous for motorists and golfers and is negotiating for daily calls to be made there by the Melbourne-Launceston aerial mail services, which is now being organised. The site is a basin of wide area in the gap between Mt Martha and Arthurs Seat.The beach road deviation which leads from Mornington Esplanade past the Mt Martha Hotel leads to the site.
THE GOLF CLUB.
Dromana's first golf course is shown on Melbourne Brindle's map of Dromana.
Apart from a few tournaments in 1913, the words golf and Dromana were not paired again until 1928.
A. 27-11-1928, page 13. An area was to be set aside for a golf course at Safety Beach. This article will be reproduced verbatim under the heading of SAFETY BEACH (after Dromamas Mr Bean.) A. 8-10-1929, page 13. The tower on the mountain is being repaired and a nine hole golf course is being laid out. Little did those concerned realize that the concrete tower (which the new lift company wants to demolish) was to replace the old lighthouse a little more than half a decade later. The golf course would not have been connected with the local club. It was probably another initiative of Spencer Jackson, who wrote a history of Dromana two years earlier and organized a road to the tower in this year (as the plaque he presented testifies.) While Spencer did many things to advance the town, his deeds usually also assisted sales of land in his Foreshore and Panoramic Estates. The course might have also been a project undertaken by Lawson who built The Garden of the Moon. This might be an appropriate time to mention Frank Alfred Gaylor and the hotel on Arthurs Seat. The notice of his application for a licence for the Hollywood Inn appeared on page14 of The Argus of 22-11-1937 and listed conditions.
A.5-9-1930, page 10. Nearly 70 acres have been set aside at Safety Beach for a golf course. Design is left to Mr A. Russell. It will open about the middle of December. It is possible that Mr Russell was an Essendon resident, the son of the grantee of 166 acres on the east side of Collins Rd that became part of Walter Gibsons Glenholme and the custodian of the Essendon (Moonee Ponds) Town Hall pictured on page 5 of The Argus of 9-1-1932. He had probably learned his golf on the McCrackens Mar Lodge Estate at Essendon on the west side of McCracken St. A.22-12-1930, page 3. New Links at Dromana. Dromana Country Golf Clubs course at the foot of Mt Martha is in a rough state. There are nine holes and all command beautiful views of Port Phillip Bay, Mt Martha and Arthurs Seat. A. 21-12-1933. The President, Dr A.McDonald said that the club had been through lean times and hoped that residents would support an undertaking which was a great asset to the town. A. 24-9-1937, page 25. Applications are invited for occupancy of Dromana course, including residence*, equipment, mowers etc. retention of green fees. Apply Southern Developments Pty Ltd or Secretary Dromana Golf Club, Shire Hall, Dromana. (*Mr Beans house?) A. 1-6-1938, page 6. The Southern Development Co., which has 200 acres at Safety Beach, has sunk a bore (details about depths and flow.) Provision has been made for the golf course to be extended to 18 holes. A. 26-11-1938, page 6. Annual Meeting. Pres.-Mr L.E.Barnes; Sec.- Mr J.Holland. Mr Barnes might have been from Rosebud as Peter Wilson mentions that a member of the Barnes Honey family had a holiday home there. John E.Holland was assessed on 25 acres at Red Hill near the Kindilan Society site in 1919-20.
WHERE WAS THE SAFETY BEACH GOLF COURSE THAT OPENED IN 1930?
Admittedly, the following evidence is far from first-hand. I had obtained the land plan for Clarkes Dromana Estate and knew that the course had been on the land of R.A.C.V. President, Mr Bean, but this did not help me to pinpoint the location of the course. In desperation I paid a visit to the present golf club at Safety Beach. I thought I had struck gold when one of the chaps started telling me in great detail about the original course. Then the penny dropped. Is this the circa 1930 course? I asked. Everyone was stunned and then I heard, Les knows! This was Les Belot. Les had never played on the course but we did have an enjoyable chat about the horse on the green at Jack Warnocks private course on the present Village Glen at Rosebud West.
This is the chain of evidence. Les has a mate, a member of the pioneering Red Hill Prossor family, who was clearing land with the help of a friend. This friends father had been a plumber and had worked at the club house of the golf course. It is possible that this fibro building, 67 Seaview Ave, had been Mr Beans holiday house and later Locksley Chase Guest House after World War 2. I inspected the house briefly and was able to observe that it had a huge lounge room, capable of being used for a meeting of over a hundred people or a dance. Through the same chain of information, Les learned that the course occupied the land which became, in about 1990, A.V.Jennings Horizon Estate. This was bounded by Victoria (possibly Patterson) St, Rhymer, Tonkins St and Seaview Ave. Many golf balls were discovered when the subdivision was being cleared.
It is of interest that the last mention of the club was the annual meeting at the end of 1938, Dr A.McDonald was the President in 1933, hoping that residents would support the club, J. McDonald and sons built the St Georges Course at Rye (Argus 7-6-1938 page12), a report of a tournament at Rye (Argus 27-6-1939 page 15) refers to R. Munro of Dromana winning an event there and G.W.Brown (the shire engineer according to A Dreamtime of Dromana p.171) winning an 18 hole competition at the Dromana Branch. Also that Roy W. McDonald, Dromana Real Estate Agent was advertising land at Safety Beach in 1950. The McDonalds course at Rye, bounded by Dundas St and Golf Pde was being sold by Bill Prentice in 1952 (Argus 10-4-1952 p.2) and Ossie Pickworths rival, Colin Campbell, used the opportunity to establish the Rye Public Links where we now see Hogan Dr., Thompson Tce, Sarazen St, Bacchli St etc. Did the McDonalds move their operation to Safety Beach. The Carriggs had included easy access golf in their 1939 advertisements; perhaps the McDonalds had taken up the offer of 1937 to lease the obviously under-patronised course and made it a branch of their Rye operation. After 1939, the hotel no longer advertised golf and searches have found no further mention of golf at Dromana or Rye but it is certain that the Rye course was still being used.
It is possible that the Rye and Safety Beach courses operated until about 1950 and their closure caused the formation of Rosebud Park in 1951. It is possible also that the guest house, about which no advertisement has been found, ran the course as a private facility.
PICKINGS FOR THE PHEASANTS AT THE FAUNA PARK.
EXPORT OF NATIVE GAME. COUNCILLOR ADVOCATES AMENDMENT OF LAW. ENTERPRISE TIED UP WITH RED TAPE. Cr. J. Unthank told last meeting of the. Shire Council that he had been much impressed when he paid a visit to Mr. D. Picking's fauna park at Dromana. Cr. Unthank said Mr. Picking told him that the law forbidding the export of native game prevented him from disposing of a lot of stock. If he was not so tied down with red tape he could have one of the finest zoological gardens in Australia. Cr. Unthank said he saw about 200 pheasants on Mr. Picking's farm coming to the homestead to be fed. There were peacocks, emus, kangaroos, wallabies and other game moving about the farm. He (Cr. Unthank) advocated an amendment of the game laws to permit the export of a limited number of specimens of native game. (P.1,Frankston and Somerville Standard, 14-4-1934.)
Rev.Taylor would have been one of the first to reside on the Survey for non-farming purposes. He had been in the area in 1917 and by 1928 had probably retired as a Methodist minister. As he was related to the Bean family,it is possible that he was living in Bean's house at the time of his death.
TAYLOR. On the 21st April, at Safety Beach, Dromana, Victoria, Rev. William H. Taylor, dearly loved husband of Esther, and loving father of Rev. F. W. Taylor (Numurkah),Will H. Taylor (450 Little Collins-street, Melbourne), Win (Mrs. W. G.Roberts, Main Ridge), Rene (Mrs.A. McCutcheon, Cavendish), and Doris (deceased). At rest.(P.1, Examiner, Launceston,3-5-1935.)
Now I'm wondering why this notice was in a Tassie newspaper and how Win Taylor came to meet W.G.Roberts of Main Ridge.
TAYLOR/ ROBERTS/ BEAN.
Reverend Taylor had probably been at Safety Beach for at least seven years and was involved with the Mornington Peninsula Development League, apparently handling the sale of badges to raise funds for improvements on Arthurs Seat.
PENINSULA DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE MEETING AT HASTINGS.
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 16 November 1928 p 2 Article.
BEAUTIFUL MARINE DRIVE.
Rev. Taylor said how favorably impressed Mr. Clapp was with Marine Drive when he visited Mornington recently. Mr. Clapp was most anxious to see the road trafficable: Rev. Taylor said the best thanks of the league were due to Mr. Jackson for his efforts in having Marine Drive attended to in Flinders shire portion.
I was thinking Rev. Taylor might have been the Presbyterian minister at Dromana in the 1890's until I found this.
News of the Churches. MORNINGTON AND DROMANA CIRCUIT
Spectator and Methodist Chronicle (Melbourne, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Wednesday 18 April 1917 p 439 Article
News of the Churches.
MORNINGTON AND DROMANA CIRCUIT (extract)
Mr Roberts was appointed the Sunday School visitor. Rev. W. H. Taylor reported that he had visited most of the Sunday Schools in the interest of the Young Australia Temperance League, and that nearly all the scholars had signed the pledge. The resignation of Mr.Trewin, the Junior Circuit Steward, on account of ill health, was accepted, and Mr. Counter was appointed in his place.
I wouldn't mind betting that the Rev.W.H.Taylor was living in the house on the north west corner of Seaview and Victoria St, Safety Beach at the time of his death in 1935. This house was the homestead of Mr Bean,one time president of the R.A.C.V., who organised the R.A.C.V.speed trials at Safety Beach, and was probably introduced to Spencer Jackson by Rev.W.H.Taylor himself. (See my journals about SAFETY BEACH and SPENCER JACKSON AND THE BUS BAN for sources.)
TAYLOR-BEAN-On the 2nd April, 1885, at the residence of the bride's parents "Sutton"
Haines street, North Melbourne, by the Rev J W Crisp, assisted by the Rev.W.H. Taylor, brother of the bridegroom Frank E Taylor, youngest son of Mr and Mrs.J.E. Taylor,North Melbourne to Louisa, eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs J.Bean. (Present Address, 20 Grace St, Moonee Ponds.)
(Family Notices,The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 2 April 1935 p 1.)
was known to oldtimers as Patterson's Lane. Godfrey Patterson bought lots 18 and 19 fronting the highway to McKenzie's Junction (Melway 151 B11)and Wallaces Rd to its first bend (160 B3.)The Jennings Bros.of Rye had a dairy on the east corner of Rosebud Pde in Rosebud (outside which is a statue and historical plaque) and the 1919 rates show that they had been occupying lots 18 and 19.
See BRUCE, TASSELL AND THE BROKIL ESTATE above. Ellerina Rd was known to the female drover, Shirley Bourne, and the Jacksons of "Dalkeith" as THE SEA LANE. It is the boundary between the parishes of Moorooduc and Kangerong.
Pickings Rd. Refer to the article about the Fauna Park.
Miss Shirley Ann Richards, the Australian film star, with a flying phalanger yesterday when she visited the Picking Fauna Park,Dromana. (Caption for photo,P.3, Argus,27-10-1937.)
The Pickings seem to have been on the Survey from about 1923 until at least the 1950's. The Pickings boys must have had artistic talent to rival that of another Dromana lad,Melbourne Brindle. They obviously got their talent from their father, Doug.
DROMANA YOUTHFUL ARTIST
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 30 March 1944 p 2 Article
... DROMANA YOUTHFUL ARTIST Bruce Picking, young son and Mrs. Douglas Picking, Dromana, has commenced study National Art Gallery. A future is predicted for this sma lad. ... 27 words
Douglas Picking must have used at least part of his property for normal farming practices, one of which was breeding sheep.
HIGH PRICE FOR RAM. Cr. David Boyd, of Berwick, who has one of the leading flocks of Rye- land sheep in the State, has, for the purpose of improving his flock, purchased from Mr. Douglas Picking, of Dromana, the stud Ryeland ram, Picking's R1880. The price paid was 30 guineas which, at the present time, is an exceptionally high price for a ram.
I believe that Thamer Burdett was distantly related to Countess Burdett-Coutts and that the use of Coutts as a given name was an example of name-dropping, as in the case of Henry Everest Adams of Rosebud who used Vivian as a given name for his offspring and Vivyan for his vineyard (leading his descendants to wrongly believe that he was the illegitimate son of Lord Vivian.) She married Henry William Wilson and two of their children, Godfrey and Thamer,were given Burdett as second given names.Godfrey's eldest son was called Henry William Burdett Coutts Wilson. Not long before leaving Dromana to manage the family's butcher shop, H.W.B.C's young son was saved by what was probably the first use of mouth to mouth resuscitation on the Mornington Peninsula.
(See the entry for Stan Evans in my MELBOURNE BRINDLE journal.)
In 1919, the Wilsons had 684 acres of the survey,William Gibson 659 acres, Alf Downward 270 acres, Herb Downward 509 acres, and the Pattersons 280 acres (lots18,19) on which the Jennings brothers had recently finished a lease. According to Colin McLear,the Wilsons later bought much land from the Gibsons,Downwards, and Pattersons. One of the Wilson lads was involved with selling subdivided land on the survey. Coutts St was most likely named after H.W.B.C.Wilson.
Evans St. Stan Evans was a toddler when H.W.B.C.Wilson's young son almost drowned in 1904. The two boys were at a waterhole near a new abbatoir Henry was helping the carpenter,an early Dromana pioneer, to build when the Wilson lad got into difficulties.Unable to rescue him, little Stan ran to the men to alert them. Henry dragged his son out. As he was not breathing, the carpenter successfully performed mouth to mouth. Stan was involved in a humorous incident regarding sausages and a horse as a lad and was a longtime employee of the Wilsons as a butcher, resulting in a serious injury decades later. The Wilsons obviously subdivided this area. The street could have been named after the sporty Bill Evans but I think Stan was most likely the person being honoured.
(See newspaper articles in the Stan Evans entry in the MELBOURNE BRINDLE journal.)
Mary Ann McLear was widowed near the end of 1849 on the Plenty River when her husband was thumped on the head with a length of timber by a friend of a man who refused to pay up on a bet at a race meeting. Probably accompanied by her late husband's groom, she settled on the survey in 1851. She commenced farming at The Willow (Melway 160 E4,east of freeway)and became a partner in Charle Graves' hawking business.On 10-5-1859, Graves bought crown allotment 13, section 2 Kangerong (across the road from the Drive-In)and had a three rail fence erected by Thomas and Charles Rymer. Graves sold it on 31-1-1860 to Mary Ann, who called it Maryfield,
and moved to Shoreham where he was a shopkeeper and farmed on 374 acres.
The Rymers "also worked for George McLear at times. In 1867,they were fencing Arthurs Seat Park. Thomas Rymer drew timber from Arthurs Seat for the building of the Dromana jetty in 1874." (All from A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
Thomas didn't take long to get this lucrative contract after the "Maryfield" job. He and Tim Sullivan would have been rolling in clover if they'd shared in the contract to fence the police paddock from White Cliff to the back beach which the Government proposed in 1859. (See Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD.)
stockyard at police paddock,Point Nepean-fencing, Â£1s.11s. 3 3/4d per rod; eight gates at Â£3.15s. each, Â£102. 0 s.4 1/2d., Thomas Rymer ; digging waterhole and fencing at police paddock, Point Nepean-waterhole, Is. per yard ; fencing, 6s. 6d. per rod, Â£85,T.Sullivan(Announcements in the Government Gazette, P.5, Argus, 28-8-1861.)
The Rymers may have moved to Frankston or Hastings, but it is possible that Charles Rymer moved to Geelong. Mrs Rymer made a donation to the Frankston Hospital in 1944.(P.1, Standard, Frankston 26-10-1944, FRANKSTON COMMUNITY HOSPITAL.) Laurie Rymer was one of the Hastings Football Club players to make in in the big time.
Name Laurence Rymer Born 1934-07-05 Height187 cm Weight 92 kg V/AFL Clubs Collingwood
V/AFL Games 25 V/AFL Career 1955-57 V/AFL Goals 10 Brownlow Votes 0 (AUSTRALIANFOOTBALL.COM)
RYMER.-Mr. Chas. Rymer wishes to THANK all kind friends for their expressions and tokens of sympathy during the illness of his dearly loved wife,(Doris), who passed away at Geelong on August 7, 1944. A long and patient sufferer at rest. (P.4,Standard, Frankston,17-8-1944.)P.S. Chas was Isaac Charles Rymer.
Walter St is on lot 4 of the subdivision of Clarke's Estate. As you can see above,lot 4 was purchased by Walter Gibson of "Glenholm" (which became the Monarco Estate and the Collins Rd Industrial Estate.)
Assuming this is the correct spelling, it is named after Judge Higgins (Chief Justice)of Heronswood whose "Harvester Judgement led to the basic wage for workers.Judge Higgins died in 1929 and lot 4 was probably subdivided for housing at about that time. George Higgens of Queen St Melbourne and Red Hill was a land agent who became a Flinders Shire councillor for the central riding which included the Survey. The intersection of Mornington-Flinders and Arthurs Seat Rds was known as Higgens Corner.George's surname was almost always given as Higgins, even in the newspaper articles and index in A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA. George may have been involved in the subdivision.
Edwin Louis Tassell leased the Brokil Estate from 1860 (according to Colin McLear)until his death. This was the northern 1000 or so acres of Jamieson's Special Survey, between Ellerina/Bruce/Foxey's Hangout Rds and the Martha Cove Waterway. The waterway is fed by the Brokil Creek which was named by an early surveyor and gave the estate itsname. locals, however, dubbed it Tassell's Creek for over a century and I have asked the council to put Tassells Creek signs at each end of the underpass. "Tassel" Rd was obviously sourced from rate records where Edwin was written as Edward etc. See my TASSELL journal.
The Osborne contribution to Dromana's sporting life as players and officials was tremendous. George Osborne served as a delegate to the League and the award to the best and fairest in the Nepean Football League is called the George Osborne Medal.
SECOND HISTORY BOARD ON SAME CORNER. KARADOC TRANSPOSED ON MELWAY,PHOTO OF BUSH NURSING HOSPITAL, TOWNSEND'S EARLY MOUTH TO MOUTH RESCUE UNDER PORTION OF MELBOURNE BRINDLE'S MAP SHOWING SLAUGHTERYARD SITE AND FRED VINE'S HUT OPPOSITE SEACOMBE ST.
B.Karadoc, Ruddy Rudduck, Fred Warren and his widow, Bush Nursing Hospital (Stenniken house),Cr Jack and the peninsula's first motorised ambulance (Wilson Trust.)
The Rudduck family is discussed extensively on pages 55 to 66 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.
"At a land sale held in Melbourne on June 4 1858 Samuel Rudduck bought from the Crown,103 acres 27 perches of land at Dromana-Portion 8 of Section 1, Parish of Kangerong and named the property Karadoc. This land stretched
along Point Nepean Rod from Gibson's "Glenholme*" to the sea (P.36.)(*The boundary now being Ponderosa Place and the freeway.)
Samuel Rudduck's grandparents lived in Somerset and it is likely that the recently (Feb.2015) dismissed Government Whip,Mr Ruddock, and "Crash" Craddock, a popular star in the infancy of rock 'n' roll, had ancestors who came from the same area. These names and Karadoc came from the same root, thought to be of Celtic origin,that means RED BREAST.
It's a wonder that Samuel's Christian name was not Nelson because he was born on 18-1-1806 when Admiral Nelson's body was being taken to Whitehall by river after lying in state.This coincidence was probably in his mind when he named our Dromana pioneer.Sam had entered the corset business started by his father, Joseph, and when the gold rush started he left to make the most of the opportunity to invest in the new colony of Victoria.In 1852 he came out with his eldest son,16 year old Sam,and James Hudson the betrothed of his daughter, Isabelle.
Sam made at least three trips to Australia,in 1852,1858 and, with his brother,Joseph, in 1861-2.In 1859,Sam Jnr had become a pioneer of Dandenong after marrying Nettie Chapman of Springvale. In 1868 Sam and Nettie went to Sandridge to collect Sam's younger brother, Nelson,now 19 but only three years old when Sam had come to Australia in 1852.Possibly because of his name,Nelson had hankered as a schoolboy to go to sea and became a midshipman (his commission probably bought with corset profits.)He'd served on the trading vessel on which he arrived and Sam,who knew the Captain,was able to secure Nelson's release from his obligations.
Young Nelson worked as a carrier hauling goods through Gippsland and inevitably met Nettie's younger sister, Jane Sophia Chapman at the Springvale hotel. They married at St Kilda on 17-10-1870 and six months after the birth of their first child, Jane, at Dandenong in 1871,they moved to Dromana.
There will be more said of Nelson and Jane Sophia Rudduck later in this heritage walk,but this site which was part of Karadoc, now occupied by the child minding centre and --------, was donated by generous Nelson Rudduck as a site for the Dromana Bush Nursing Hospital.
MOVEMENT AT DROMANA.
Three Acres of Land Given.
A proposal for the establishment of a bush nursing hospital at Dromana was investigated by the honorary secretary of the Bush Nursing Association (Sir James Barrett) on Saturday. It is proposed to rent a private hospital* until money has been obtained for a building on land in Point -Nepean Road, Dromana. Three acres of land, valued at about L1000 been given by Mr.N.Rudduck, of Dromana, for the purpose, and the district committee is seeking support from residents. The Dromana division of the Country Women's Association has promised to support the committee.(P.18, Argus, 1929.)
*Burdett Cottage in Heales St, where Maria (nee Stenniken, d.1927) lived after her husband,Godfrey Burdett Wilson died,was used until a hospital,officially opened in 1933, was built. Some of the cost of construction was probably paid from the proceeds of the R.A.C.V. speed and acceleration trial at Safety Beach.
BUSH NURSING HOSPITAL OPENED AT DROMANA. BEDS FOR NINE PATIENTS.
Dromana. Sunday. - The Dromana Bush Nursing Hospital was officially opened on Saturday afternoon bv Mrs J. S.
Fraser vice president of the Victorian Bush Nursing Association in the presence of a large assemblage from all parts of the Mornington Peninsula. The hospital will be available to residents in the shire of Flinders. It is built on three acres of land which was given by Mr Nelson Rudduck of Dromana and it is constructed of concrete and brick. Mr. K. F.Elliott architect supervised the work which was carried out by Messrs Hunt and Roberts, contractors, of Redhill. The hospital has accommodation for nine in patients. The building cost Â£1300 of which Â£700 was raised in the district and Â£600 was advanced by the Victorian Bush Nursing Association for 15 years at interest of 1 per cent.
The furniture and fittings were bought by the Dromana women's auxiliary of which Mrs.B.Wilson is president and Mrs.V.Allen honorary secretary. The sitting room was furnished by Mr Nelson Rudduck in memory of his wife.
Memorial gates are being erected by the people of Dromana and district in memory of the first president of the hospital, the late Mr. A. V. Shaw. Councillor G. Higgins*, president of the hospital, expressed the gratitude of the committee to the association for its assistance. (P.6, Argus,20-3-1933.)
(*Cr George Higgens was one of several pioneers whose surnames were often rendered wrongly in articles,hence my suspicion that Higgins St in Safety Beach could have been named after George rather than Judge Higgins.)
Getting patients to the hospital in a timely fashion was made possible by Cr Jack (of whom more will be heard when we reach the museum) and an early editor/ owner of The Argus, Edward Wilson. Having never married, Edward started losing his sight so he retired to "Arundel"at Tullamarine but eventually returned to England where he mixed in intellectual circles until his death.Some of his estate went to relatives and to pay for his burial in Melbourne but a large amount was placed in the Edward Wilson Trust which helped greatly in providing the Peninsula's first motorised ambulance.
Peninsula Motor Ambulance
PRESENTATION OF WAGON AT MORNINGTON
Cr. Jack's Efforts Reach Fruition
Cr. Barrett commenced proceedings by saying that the motor wagon would be a great thing for the Peninsula, and he was pleased to note that such a number were present to take an interest in the service. He then introduced Mr. Hansford, who was well received. This gentleman spoke of the establishment, of country ambulance services, which was only made practicable by the generosity of the Edward Wilson Trust, c/o "The Argus." Thirteen centres had been established. ......
Returning to the Peninsula wagon, he said that it was the consummation of Cr. J.Jack's wishes. Ever since he brought the matter up at the Bittern Progress Association, he had persevered in a very enthusiastic manner to bring the matter to a head. He congratulated Cr. Jack on his work in the matter.
(P.6, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 16-10-1925.)
TOWNSEND'S EARLY MOUTH TO MOUTH SAVIOUR.
FRED VINE'S HUT.
HISTORY BOARD WITH PHOTOS OF THE KANGERONG GUEST HOUSE AND SHAW'S BUS.
Mr. Archibald Vine Shaw, of Kangerong, Dromana, died on Tuesday, aged 63 years. Mr Shaw was one of the leading citizens of Dromana, and was a councillor of the Shire of Flinders for more than 20 years, during which he was president on two occasions. Mr. Shaw held office in almost every semi-public institution in Dromana for many years, and conducted the guest house Kangerong for nearly 46 years. (P.6,Argus,27-10-1932.)
Thanks to Tonkin for telling me that Benjamin Douglas Shaw married Elizabeth Vine in Victoria in 1862. That enabled me to find this marriage notice which also involved Elizabeth's sister as a bride.
SHAWâVINE.âOn the 16th inst., by licence at St. Paul's Church, by the Rev. S. L. Chase, Benjamin Douglas, youngest son of the late Robert Elgie Shaw, of the Grove, Hackney, London, to Elizabeth, sixth daughter of Mr. T. W. Vine, of Fitzroy, formerly of the City-road, London.
WARTONâVINE.âOn the 16th inst., by licence, at St Paul's Church, Melbourne, by the Rev. S. L. Chase, Henry Richard, eldest son of Mr. Demetrius Henry Warton, of London, to Isabella, youngest daughter of Mr. Thomas Walter Vine, of Fitzroy, and formerly of the City-road, London. (P.4, Argus,21-1-1862.)
Benjamin was known to some as Benjie Shaw. David Cairns (1842-1923),son of David Cairns and Janet (nee Thompson)drove a cart for Benjie Shaw in his teens,so Ben must have already been hawking his wares around the peninsula before his marriage in 1862. (THE CAIRNS FAMILY OF BONEO, Peter Wilson.)
Colin McLear stated in A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA that Ben started the Kangerong Guest House in the 1880's. "Benjamin's son,Archie,married Maud McKeown and they had five children Maurice, Ernest,Archibald, Betty (MrsWeir) and Jack. Maurie and Jack lived most of their lives in Dromana and were prominent citizens. Mauriewasthe long-term propritor of the Shell Service Station and his daughter Mrs Nancy Warfe and her children still live in the town." (P.88.)
On 30-7-1877 Benjamin Shaw was appointed a trustee of the proposed Union Church in Dromana to represent the Baptists. (P. 114.)
MR. J. M. SHAW, garage proprietor of Dromana, sent a letter to the Flinders Shire at its monthly meeting
stating that at a sitting of the Transport Board, on 16th August, an application was heard from Mr. C. Capp,
of "Kangerong," Dromana, to run a bus service betweenDromana and Arthur's Seat. As his license already covered the proposed route, the Board decided in his favor, and, on the face of the petition of Red Hill residents and evidence given, considered that he (Mr.Shaw) should give the service a trial to prove it was justified.
BL88DY RED TAPE!!!
RED HILL, MAIN RIDGE,ARTHUR'S SEAT TO DROMANA BUS SERVICE.
RUN DISCONTINUED FROM MARCH 29.
Quite a deal of disappointment has been caused through the discontinuance of the above service.Mr. L. M. Shaw, of Dromana, who has been conducting the above service, sent a letter to the Flinders Council, enclosing a letter he received from the Transport Regulation Board. Mr. Shaw stated that as this was the fourth occasion on
which the Board had written to him with reference to his co-ordination with the Portsea Passenger Buses,
he wished to advise that the service would be discontinued as from 29th March. ETC.
(P.3, Standard, 12-4-1945.)
The Board would have thought it was perfect for Shaw's bus to arrive at Moat's Corner just after the Portsea Line bus had gone past so that Red Hill, Main Ridge etc. residents were stranded there for hours!
BUS SERVICE TO RED HILL AREA.
Mr. M. J. Shaw has advised Flinders Shire that his bus service to Red Hill area has been commenced with a
three day a week service. (P.7, Standard, 19-7-1945.)
c/a5 sect 1, holden's store (Francesnearly 102) john mclear, dromana hotel (watkin in 1858,built 1862,liardet,carrigg, racing-2courses-and footy, foreshore estate)
CROWN ALLOTMENT 5, SECTION 1, PARISH OF KANGERONG.
THE FOLLOWING COMES FROM MY JOURNAL "PIONEERING NEIGHBOURS NEAR CARRIGG ST,DROMANA."
......Mr Holden of Dromana was an early preacher at Frankston Methodist Church, and soon afterwards, that F.Holden was a true friend of John McLear. Then I found out that the true friend was Mrs Frances Holden who was, like Mrs Fred Warren*, a long-time widow in the township. I didn't find out that they were neighbours, Colin McLear had already told me that through his A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.
(* WARREN.-On the 20th October, at Dromana, Frederick Warren, the beloved husband of Janet Warren. (P.1, Argus, 4-11-1919.)
The Township of Dromana was west of McCulloch St,the part of present day Dromana to the east, and extending to Boundary Rd, being Section 1 of the parish of Kangerong. On the coast side of the freeway were crown allotments 1-8 of section 1. C/A 1, triangular with Arthur St as its eastern boundary, was granted to William Dixon Scurfield, who built the Scurfield Hotel(later the Arthurs Seat Hotel and burnt down in 1898) between Permien and Foote St in the Township. C/A 8, granted to Nelson Rudduck's father, Samuel,was almost triangular, except that its boundary was Ponderosa Place rather than the freeway near Pt Nepean Rd. All the other allotments were rectangular with a frontage of 200 metres, except the Dromana Hub site which went only 180 metres west from Pier St. William Grace, who received the grant for "Gracefield" in 1857, bought four of the six rectangular blocks.
The above mentioned William Grace was with James McCulloch a member of a deputation in 1863.Bateman, a prominent architect,and a grantee in the parish of Fingal, was a relative of Governor Latrobe, and the eastern boundary of Dromana Township was named after McCulloch.
A deputation from Dromana, consisting of the Hon. James M'Culloch, Mr Edward Latrobe Bateman, and Mr Grace, waited yesterday upon the Commissioner of Roads and Railways, to request that the new road district of Kangerong might be re-proclaimed, in consequence of some irregularity which had taken place in the constitution of the board. It appeared that the board was originally gazetted for two dates, and that one portion of the district, that belonging to Schnapper Point, was not freed until 3rd December, while the meeting, constituting the board was held on the 1st of that month. Mr Mitchell said the Board of Land and Works had, on the
opinion of the law officers, already stated its willingness to recognise the district. The deputation, however, desired that the district should be re- proclaimed, to prevent the possibility of law proceedings through the irregularity which had taken place, and Mr Mitchell agreed to submit the matter to the Minister of Justice, to ascertain if he had any objection to the district being re-proclaimed.(P.5,The Age,20-2-1863.)
Crown allotment 5, of 36 acres and 25 perches, commenced 200 metres north east of Pier St, its frontage being another 200 metres. (The Dromana hotel is right in the north west corner of Allotment 5.) It was granted to Alex P. Thompson,who had sold off two one acre frontage blocks by 1864, the year of the oldest available Kangerong Road Board assessment. Before I deal with the assessments,let's turn to page 79 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.
" HOLDEN (1864) had been a miner and came from the goldfields to build a store in Dromama. This stood approximately on the corner of what is now Carrigg St. The verandah in the fashion of this time was low and shoppers stooped to pass under it. He also had a slab hut hard by. Here Peter Pidota's men were quartered. At one time, Robert Rowley and his wife, later of Rye, lived there when he was working loading craft for Peter."
1.The name appeared in George McLear's account book in 1864.
2. I searched for Pidota on trove and found not one reference. Colin McLear and practically every rate collector gave the surname as Pidota. So did Isobel Moresby in ROSEBUD:FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA, with a twist.
'Among the craft which carried timber, firewood,wattle bark and so on to Little Dock in Melbourne was old Antonio Pidota's "Little Angelina".' Isobel was probably confusing his given name with that of Antonio Bosina, a fisherman, of Rosebud. But she made no mistake with the boat's name! A search for Pidoto revealed not only his correct surname but a maritime tradition and links with Williamstown.
THE DROMANA JETTY.
TO THE EDITOR OF THE ARGUS.
Sir,-I would wish through your columns to call the attention of the Government to tho urgent necessity that exists to deepen the water inside the breakwater at this jetty, as at present it is at great risk vessels lay there to load or discharge cargo. On Saturday last the Little Angelina, only drawing 5ft. of water, bumped heavily through the sea that was on.
Taking into consideration the growing importance of Dromana as a watering-place, it behoves the Government to give this matter their immediate attention, and thus enable the residents here to get their goods loaded and discharged at any time by any vessels of a moderate draught of water.
-Yours, &C.,PETER PIDOTO. Dromana, July 2.(P.5, Argus, 4-7-1883.)
A message from Flinders (Vic.) says.-The wrecked ketch Little Angelina on Phillip Island shore is still holding together. She is right up on the rocks, and at low tide can be discerned from Flinders, distant across the bay about five miles. There does not appear to be much hope of getting her afloat. It is not known here whether any steps are likely to be taken with this object. Tho Little Angelina belonged formerly to the late Mr. Pidoto, of Dromana, and was a regular trader between Dromana and Melbourne.
(P.10, Sydney Morning Herald, 17-6-1899.)
PIDOTO.-Mrs. Pidoto, Clifton Hill, has been informed that her son, Gunner J. Pidoto, who was mentioned in despatches, and was awarded the Military Medal for conspicuous bravery, has been wounded in the chest, and left arm, and is returning to Australia. Before enlisting Gunner Pidoto was a linesman in the post-office in South Australia. He has been on active service for two and a half years. (P.6, Argus, 7-2-1918.)
Has itellya gone completely mad (like Ken Bruce)? Clifton Hill, South Australia? Why not throw in Balmain too,to make the joke complete?
N.B. 3. Robert Rowley was not "later of Rye". He and Henry Cadby Wells were, with the exception of Robert's widowed mother and her second husband, Richard Kenyon (and possibly Captain Adams of Rosebud)the first permanent settlers on the Mornington Peninsula, lime-burning together in the Sorrento area in 1840 and crayfishing together from 1849. Robert married Christine Edwards from Longford in Tasmania in 1859 and probably went to Dromana soon after.He signed the petition of 1861 asking that Robert Dublin Quinan's school be chosen for the Common School. James Holden and Sarah, George and Robert Wilson were some others who signed.
AND NOW FOR THE RATE RECORDS.
In 1864, detail was scant but Richard Watkin had a 12 roomed house (the Dromana Hotel), Alex (Collop?)had an impressive 3 roomed house (nett annual value 30 pounds) and (stores?)and Peter Pidota(sic)had a house and store (N.A.V. 30 pounds.) In 1865, the details for Pidoto and Watkin were the same but Connop(or whatever!)was missing and Alex Haldan, who had not been assessed previously, had 1 acre and a 6 roomed house, N.A.V. 25 pounds.All of these properties were on crown allotment 5 of section 1, and almost certainly the 17 acres on which Edward Burgess was assessed in 1865, along with a hut. Connop and Haldan were probably leasing from James Holden. The hotel would have made the vicinity the ideal place for stores.
James Holden died in about 1874 so we would not expect him to appear in the 1879 rates re crown allotment 5. Peter Pidota (sic),mariner, had 17 acres,possibly bought from Burgess. The Dromana Hotel and its associated 17 acres seems to have been forgotten by the rate collector. John McLear, laborer, was assessed on 2 acres. It is likely John combined fishing with any work that was available. With Harry Copp,Fred Vine and Jonah Griffith,he was one of Dromana's four professional fishermen.
Forgetting the 25 perches, crown allotment 5 (and its 36 acres 25 perches) is fully accounted for (17 acres Pidoto, 17 acres pub, 2 acres McLear.)I believe that John was paying Francis Holden's rates for her. John had married Janet Cairns from Boneo in 1874.The 1900 assessment was the sort of effort that later had Cr Terry fuming. John McLear was assessed on one acre; no mention was made of the 17 acres associated with the Dromana hotel or the late Peter Pidoto's 17 acres.
The 1910 rates weren't much better. Still no mention of Frances Holden. Mrs Pidoto must have sold her 17 acres to G.S.Edwards who was running the Dromana Hotel (whose 17 acres weren't mentioned);the occupier was W.E.Thompson but Mrs Pidoto of Clifton Hill was paying the rates.
In 1919, Lou Carrigg was assessed on:
17 acres and hotel, part c/a 5, section 1, N.A.V.150 pounds;
16 acres, part c/a 5 section 1, N.A.V. 15 pounds.
If I remember correctly he bought the other 17 acres soon after arriving in about 1914.
Mrs Frances Holden paid rates on 1 acre and buildings, Esplanade, part c/a 5, section 1.
The 34 acres behind the hotel became one of Dromana's two racecourses, (the other being north of Dromana Secondary College) and also served as the footy ground until about 1927 when Spencer Jackson sold it as the Foreshore Estate. John McLear's son Nip lived in his father's house till the end of his life. It was demolished to make way for extensions to the Dromana Hotel.
And by the way,Mrs Pidoto's address was given as Balmain , N.S.W. in an assessment but I can't find it.
McLEAR. - On the 16th June, at his residence,Dromana, John, beloved husband of the late Janet McLear, and loving father of Mrs Wilson (Boneo), Mrs Pentecost (Mornington), George (Wagga), Jack, Mrs A. Griffiths, Mrs McDonald (Abbotsford), Lily, late Harry (A.I.F.), James (A.I.F., returned); true friend of F. Holden, Dromana, aged 72 years 11 months. Colonist 72 years. "Thy will be done." (P.1, Argus, 18-6-1918.)
(Mr Wilson was a cousin of Godfrey Wilson. The Pentecosts were Mornington pioneers and a family member was appointed to take care of the Schnapper Point jetty light in 1863.)
OBITUARY CENTENARIAN PASSES. The death of Mrs Frances Holden, probably the Peninsula's only centenarian, occurred at her residence at Dromana on Monday. Had she lived until October, Mrs Holden would have reached the age of 102 years. With her husband, she settled in Dromana 82 years ago and had lived there ever since. She came from Sussex, England, when a young girl. In her younger days she took an active part in movements for the advancement of the district. A good horsewoman, she used to join parties that went out hunting kangaroos. Burial took place in the Dromana cemetery where the remains were interred beside those of her husband who died about 60 years ago. The burial service was read by the Rev.A.F. Falconer. Mr Hector Gamble, of Frankston had charge of the funeral arrangements. (P.1, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 25-8-1934.)
Mrs. Frances Holden who was a widow, aged 101 years has died at Dromana. She had lived in a cottage near the Hotel Dromana for very many years and had a store of reminiscences of her experiences with the blacks in the early days. (P.8,Argus, 23-8-1934.)
Mrs Holden, the oldest resident of the Mornington Peninsula, has died aged 102 years. Mrs Holden arrived from England when aged 14 years. She was in Melbourne when it was a canvas town, and she went to Ballarat in the early gold mining days with her husband, who was a mining engineer. She remembered having ridden down Sturt street, Ballarat, with mud almost up to her horse's girth. Mrs Holden is said to have been the first white woman at Dromana. (P.20, Argus, 25-8-1934.)
AT LAST WE FIND MR HOLDEN'S GIVEN NAME!
HOLDEN.On the 30th August (passed peacefully away), at Dromana, Frances Isabell, widow of the late James Holden, aged 101 years. -At rest.(P.1, Argus, 21-8-1934.)
EARLY HISTORY. The pioneer and founder of the Methodist Church at Frankston was Mrs. Potts' father, the late Mr. John Carr. He arrived in Frankston. about 1856 or 7 and lived in the village for a time; later he started, farming. Early in 1860 he felt the necessity for a place of worship, such occasional services as were conducted, were held in the common school; so he set to work collected money, bought material and superintended the erection of a house of prayer; helping with his own labor. When finished he held services with the help of a few Christian people and a preacher named Mr Holden, who lived at Dromana. (P.8, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 19-9-1931.)
You may wonder how I have such detailed knowledge of crown allotment 5, section 1, Kangerong. When I felt that more information had to be made available about the peninsula and its pioneers in August 2010 and started my research, I was concerned mainly with Rosebud. When I found that Captain Adams gave William Edwards a loan of about 200 pounds with only a 2 acre block as security and that Edwards had a hotel in 1888 that seemed to be described as being in Dromana, I started researching the Dromana hotels in ratebooks.
It wasn't easy because hotels were described as houses and then as buildings. However I worked out that the Dromana Hotel was associated with 17 acres of land and Scurfield's hotel with 5 town lots. This information, combined with nett annual values helped me to confirm the transition of owners and occupiers.Once I saw Peter Pidoto's 17 acres specified as being in crown allotment 5 , the picture was complete because I had already suspected that the other two acres of c/a 5, section 1 were Holden's and John McLear's from reading A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.
I had spoken to Ray Stella about the Dromana Hotel before I started my examination of every year's assessment of the two hotels (from 1864 to 1898 for the Scurfield/Arthurs Seat and until 1919 for the Dromana) and he told me that John Coleman had died at the Dromana hotel after he had sold it and was about to move out.Ray showed me an internal brick wall, (probably an external wall in Watkin's original hotel) that was left intact when Lou Carrigg did his renovation circa 1927.
Ray was so interested in the hotel's history, I said I'd write a brief summary of what I discovered. When I gave it to him in late 2010, he said it would make a good place mat. Today (20-2-2013), I saw the laminated place mat for the first time and it looks great. It has a photo of the hotel in each corner: Watkin's, two from the Rose Series, and a present day shot. He left out "To be pedantic" at the start of "Watkin should have called it the Kangerong Hotel." but the meaning is made clear in the following sentence about the township's location.Ray has included my information about the Scurfield hotel and the racetrack (that Melbourne Brindle and his siblings were instructed to keep away from)and added his involvement from 1986 until today. As a clincher, he mentions that Prime Minister John Curtin lived at the hotel as a boy when his father managed it! My copy is going on the wall and I suspect that many customers will follow suit.
Richard Watkin was a busy man in 1858 but it had nothing to do with the Dromana Hotel, which he established in 1862, not 1857 as previously insinuated. In 1858, Richard was the licensee of Scurfield's hotel and, one would presume from the following, was engaged in the supply of Arthur's Seat's timber*. Note the original name for Dromana Bay. (*He was!)
TO CONTRACTORS or TIMBER MERCHANTS.
-PILES, Squared Beams, Posts and Rails, or any description of Hardwood SUPPLIED in Melbourne or Williamstown, at low rates. A large quantity prepared for delivery. Orders promptly attended to. Reference-Neil M'Lean, Esq , 11 Swanston-street; or Messrs. Musson and Co., Collins-street west. No connection with Mr. Watkins, Dromana,
Survey Bay. Post address, Dugald M'Queen, Dromana Post-office, Survey Bay, Arthur's Seat.
(P.7, Argus, 7-12-1858.)
* TO CONTRACTORS.âThe undersigned is prepared to supply any quantity of POSTS and RAILS,Sleepers, hewn and sawn Timber. Piles, and SquS,,Timber. RICHARD WATKINS, Scurfield Hotel,Dromana, Arthur's Seat.
(P.7, Argus, 30-11-1858.)
In between his running of Scurfield's Hotel and supplying of timber in 1858 and his establishment of the Dromana Hotel in 1862, Richard had run a store, but apparently not very successfully. The store may have been the one (Carnarvon) incorporating a post office later operated by Dawes near Scurfield's hotel or he could have been renting James Holden's store.
IN the Supreme Court of the Colony of Victoria. âInsolvency Jurisdiction.- In the Estate of William Kingwill and Richard Watkin, both of Dromana, in the county of Mornington, Storekeepers.
âNotice is hereby given that it is the intention of the above-named insolvent, Richard Watkin, to apply to
Wriothesley Baptist Notl, Esq., Chief Commissioner of Insolvent Estates at the Insolvent Court, Melbourne, on Monday, the 18th day of June next, at the hour of eleven o'clock in the forenoon, for a certificate of his discharge herein, pursuant to the Act of Council, in that case made and provided.
Dated the 16th day of May, 1860. (P.1,The Age,17-5-1860.)
THE CERTIFICATE OF DISCHARGE (TO RICHARD ONLY) WAS GRANTED. (P.6,Argus,21-4-1863.)
No mention of the Dromana Hotel has been found in 1862 and the only results for "hotel, Dromana" in 1863 involve Scurfield's hotel (meeting called by Robert Caldwell to form Road Board following a request from residents including Richard Watkin,householder;and sale of Scurfield's hotel later in the year.) As Richard Watkin was still an insolvent in 1862, and the following seems to indicate that construction of the Dromana Hotel had not been completed in August 1863* and Richard had a partner in the hotel (obviously a silent partner going by the 1864 Hunt article),the best explanation I can offer is that in 1862 Richard's partner, Robert Robson, owned the house shown on the west side of the old hotel and that Richard offered accommodation in it with drink supplied on the quiet to guests.At least we now know which architect designed the beautiful old Dromana Hotel. As Richard had received his certificate of discharge in March he was free to enter into contracts again but it seem unlikely that George Cox could have designed the hotel, engaged a workforce and had the building up to the stage of slating the roof,all in four months,so my theory would include Robson signing the contract with Cox as an alternative in 1862 as an alternative to Richard operating the hotel in 1862.
(*TENDERS REQUIRED, for SLATING hotel at Dromana. Specification to be seen at the office of Geo. R. Cox, architect, 41 Swanston street.(P.7,Argus,29-8-1863.)
DROMANA HOTEL, Established 1862 -First-class accommodation and sea bathing. Coach from Melbourne daily. Steamer Williams four times a week. The scenery around Dromana is unrivalled in the colony. Terms moderate. Horses and vehicles at very low rates. R Watkin, Proprietor.(P.8, Argus, 6-1-1880.)
Richard Watkin must have had a partner when he established the Dromana hotel. Hunting attracted guests to the hotel. The Kangerong Road Board had its meetings and office at the commodious hotel.
NOTICE is hereby given, that the PARTNERSHIP between Richard Watkin and Robert Robson, of the Dromana Hotel, Dromana, is this day DISSOLVED. September 19,1867. The business will be carried on by Richard Watkin as usual. Richard Watkin, Robert Robson. Witnessed by D. Nicholson. (P.3, Argus,27-9-1867.)
It is a general complaint among gentlemen attached to field sports that, during the months when game shooting is very properly prohibited, there is no employment for their guns. To refute this, we may mention that eight gentlemen reached the Royal Oak Hotel, Swanston street, yesterday, after a week's sojourn in the Dromana district, with no less than ninety-two kangaroos ; being, we believe, the largest number ever brought into
Melbourne at one time. The party speak highly of the manner in which their sport was promoted by Messrs. Watkins, of the Dromana Hotel, whence they were conducted to their shooting ground, on Messrs. Anderson and Howitt's run, by Messrs. McLear, Boag, and Burrell, who joined in the sport. Many of the kangaroo were of great size, some weighing as much as 150lb. to 160lb., and others being so large as to be left on the ground, from sheer inability of the party to take them to Dromana. (P.4,Argus,21-9-1864.)
KANGERONG ROAD DISTRICT.âNotice is hereby given, that an ELECTION will be held at the Dromana Hotel, on Thursday, the 9th of August, 1866, for two MEMBERS of the above Board, in room of Robert Anderson and Richard
Watkin, Esqs., who retire by rotation. Nomination papers, duly signed and in accordance with the provisions of the Local Government Act, will be received by Mr. Henry Watkin, of the Dromana Hotel, whom I hereby appoint to receive the same from the 29th of July until the 2nd of August.
JAMES PURVES, Returning Officer. Road Board office, Dromana Hotel,July 25, 1866.
? present pamphlet sites
PLACE INTO ORDER FROM HERE.
3. SITE OF DROMANA HALL.
4. SITE OF CHRISTIE'S DROMANA STORE.
5. PLAQUE ON ROCK-SHOEING FORGE.
6. SITE OF THE JETTY STORE.
7. SITE OF BELMONT GUEST HOUSE.
8. SITE OF MILPARINKA GUEST HOUSE.
9. ST MARK'S ANGLICAN CHURCH.
14.MURRAY,BOWEN,FLINDERS MONUMENT/HISTORY BOARD.
15.DROMANA SOLDIERS'MEMORIAL PARK.
16.MURAL ON DROMANA FORESHORE COMMITTEE DEPOT.
17.VIEW FROM FORESHORE OF THE BUTTERFLY HOUSE UP McCULLOCH ST.
18.BOATSHEDS AND VEGETATION ON THE FORESHORE RESERVE.
19.MEMORIAL HALL(1920) AND CONCRETE BOATSHED (No.43) BELONGING TO THE DROMANA PRIMARY SCHOOL.
chapmans forge, footy ground
temporary brindle home after sale of sunnyside and father's departure
jetty store* JSC>JSR 1871 TENT? ROSEBUD (SUNDAY SCHOOL-VIN) &RED HILL METHOS, BLUE RE PIANO HOSPITAL
Blackwood, you've got to be kidding!
At the quarterly meeting of the local
I.O.R. Tent, Bro. Nelson Rudduck,
P.D.C.R., of Dromana, occupied the
C.R. chair. (BLACKWOOD.
The Bacchus Marsh Express (Vic. : 1866 - 1918) Saturday 15 June 1912 p 3 Article)
HISTORY BOARD NEAR PIAWOLA. PIAWOLA, METHODIST CHURCH, DROMANA TOWNSHIP,BEAUVOIR, BUTTERFLY HOUSE, GRACEFIELD TRANSPOSED ON MELWAY/GRACEFIELD HOTEL AT RYE,PANORAMIC ESTATE TRANSPOSED ON MELWAY.
BEAUVOIR, 8 McCULLOCH ST.
Wow! The fantastic Muzza of McCrae has posted a beautiful photo of Beauvoir on the internet. The flats to the right may have been the butcher shop site.
Panoramio - Photo of Beauvoir (2010). This Victorian villa ...
Apr 29, 2010 - Beauvoir (2010). ... in the late 1800s and was named after a London hotel - the Beauvoir Arms ... Photo taken in Dromana VIC 3936, Australia.
Beauvoir means fine view and would be one of many French words introduced into the English language by William the Conqueror. Henry William Wilson,before moving to Australia had operated the Beauvoir Inn near London. When his son, Godfrey had the house built in about 1888, he recalled his father's early life by so-naming the house.Godfrey also had a shop in McCulloch St. Whether the Wilson shop shown on page 46 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA was that one or the later 1934 one on the beach road (Esplanade) is unclear.
CROWN ALLOTMENTS AND THE SHOPZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
WILSON-McDOWELL.-On the 29th September, 1913, at St. John's Church, Lonsdale street, Melbourne, by the Rev. Cadwalleder Thomas, Benjamin, elder son of Mr. and Mrs. G. B. Wilson,of Dromana, to Dorothy, youngest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. R. McDowell, of Moreland. (Present address, "De Beauvor Villa," Dromana.)
Robert McDowell was a resident of Rosebud by 1920 behind the present Rosebud Beach Woolworths store site and McDowell St is named after his family. It is more likely that the couple met near Dromana than in the city so the McDowells were probably in Rosebud shortly after the 1910 assessment. The McDowells were not the only Rosebud family to become relatives of Godfrey Burdett Wilson who had married Maria Stenniken. Lily Clemenger had married Jack Stenniken by about 1922 or perhaps earlier. Parkmore will be discussed in the Rosebud heritage trail. Ben and Dorothy lived in Beauvoir for a long time and of course their only daughter was given her mother's name.
Except in war time, or other extraordinary circumstances, such as depressions, people usually married their neighbours or someone often passing through the area. Nelson Rudduck had met his wife near Springvale while carting goods between Melbourne and Gippsland. Godfrey and Maria would have passed through Rosebud frequently on their way to visit Maria's family near today's Burdett St on the Stenniken grant at Tootgarook and young Ben might have caught a shy glance from young Dorothy as they drove past. Jack Stenniken would have passed through Rosebud in the opposite direction to visit Maria Wilson (nee Stenniken) at Burdett Cottage in Heales St, Dromana .It's no surprise that the beau of Dot junior of Beauvoir was a pilot.
CLEMENGER -On the 31st January at his residence Parkmore, Rosebud, Henry Mervyn, dearly loved and loving husband of Cecilia Emma, loving father of Ruby (Mrs Fautley) Mervyn, Lily (Mrs Stenniken) Alma (Mrs
Thompson) Harry, Celie (Mrs. Wheeler) and
Gwen. In his 71st year etc. (P.8, Argus, 1-2-1938.)
Dorothy Wilson, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. B. Wilson, Beauvoir, Dromana,to Sergeant-Pilot Douglas. Cliff Rogers,elder son of Mr. and Mrs. A. Rogers,Callantina rd., Hawthorn.(P.8, Argus, 14-3-1941.)
butterfly house, dromana hill/fairy vineyard,grace (gracefield-dromana and rye)
renovated guest house in clarendon st with bungalows;has owner applied for grant?
history boards near museum
THE OLD SHIRE HALL.
A book about ART DECO buildings on the peninsula claims that the construction of this building circa 1928 was supervised by Howard Lawson of Garden of the Moon fame. I don't know whether there is any evidence of this claim but there is a certain logic to it as the pleasure palace on the summit of Arthurs Seat was also an art deco building and presumably built at about the same time. Or so I thought!
In 1938â39, Ernest Henry and Alice Ellen Lawson purchased land at Arthurs Seat that had been previously owned by the National Permanent Building Society. Along with their son, Howard Ratcliff Lawson and his development firm the Beverly Hills Co. of South Yarra, they initiated an ambitious scheme. They aimed for a residential development along with entertainment facilities that would entice the holiday-maker. Lawson later provided the first bus service to the Garden of the Moon from Rosebud and Dromana.
P.37, MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE THEMATIC HISTORY July 2013 Prepared for Mornington Peninsula Shire
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I would have thought that the architect, would have supervised the construction. He was S.P.Calder,son of William Calder,the first chairman of the Country Roads Board. See my journal:
A CORRECTION : I MAY HAVE CALLED HIM SAM BUT HE WAS STUART PALMER CALDER (DROMANA,VIC, AUST.)
Cr Jack was the President of the Shire of Flinders when the Shire Offices were opened in 1928.(See plaque near the entrance.) A photograph of the councillors and the staff in 1928 is on display in the former council chamber that now houses part of the Dromana Historical Society museum.
More detail about the motorised ambulance, Cr Jack's efforts and the contribution of the Edward Wilson Trust can be found under the Karadoc entry after Safety Beach at the start of the heritage walk.
Peninsula Motor Ambulance ANNUAL MEETING. MORE SUPPORT NEEDED.
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 29 October 1926 p 8 Article
Cr. J. Jack, from Bittern, who was the organiser of the service, said that this was similar to a wedding break-
fast, when the bridegroom says: "This is the happiest day of my life." This day was his second happiest day.
When he set out on the great task of raising money to purchase the waggon four years ago he was confronted
with great difficulties, as Â£6000 ,a year was required. He travelled from Aspendale to Portsea asking for support. Only Â£57 was obtained. The best supporters he had were Messrs.Allingham (Rosebud) and Lyng (Dromana).
first chairman of c.r.b.
A RELIC OF EARLY AUSTRALIA. MUSKETS IN THE BUSH. ROMANTIC DISCOVERY NEAR DROMANA.
The picturesque discovery among the tangled undergrowth of green bush,near Dromana (Vic.), of three musket of old design, with their wood work charred and eaten by bush fires, apparently, recalls an interesting chapter
of Australian history. If the deductions that have been made are correct,they represent a spot upon which the explorer Matthew Flinders stood more than a century ago, when he first gazed upon the rippling blue expanse of
Port Phillip, and believed himself, incorrectly, to be the first white man who had seen the great harbor.
The discovery of the muskets was made recently by Mr George Freeman,of Rosebud, Dromana, while clearing the bush for roads upon a property on the famous King Arthurâs Seat. In the course of this work he came across
the three muskets, half hidden among the undergrowth, and âpiled,â as modern rifles are piled in camp lines,
tripod fashion. The wood work was charred and burnt, and it appeared that the spot must have been used as
a camping place. The muskets were of the âLancasterâ type such as the discoverer states were issued and used
by Flindersâ party, and a further search is to be conducted in the neighborhood in case other remains are to
It is now suggested that the cairn which was recently erected at Dromana in memory of Flinders has been wrongly placed. If the muskets represent a survival of the Flinders party, they must have been left there when the explorer made His second voyage of exploration to Australia in the âInvestigator.â This voyage was started on July 18, 1801, the object being the completion of the exploration of the coast of Australia and the discovery of any harbors. The vessel, a 334-ton sloop, was laden with glittering toys, beads, flannel and other trade articles, and Flinders was accompanied by an able staff of officers and scientists, including Robert Brown,
a young Scottish botanist; who subsequently received the highest commendation for his scientific work.
Australia was sighted on December 6, and a slow voyage was made alone the coast, charts being constructed and
harbors explored. After leaving Kangaroo Island, Flinders met the French explorer Baudin, in Encounter Bay;
and, finally, his ship rolling and plunging after a bout of stormy weather,he sighted the rocky gates of Port
Phillip, ringed with wHite spray, on April 26, 1802.He thought himself to be its discoverer, but he had been forestalled by a few weeks bY Lieutenant J. Murray. The Investigator passed into the port, and anchored near the site of Sorrento, and on the following day Flinders, accompanied by Brown and William Westall, a landscape draftsman, rowed from the ship, landing eventually on the beach of Dromana Bay. Thence he climbed the bluff ascent of King Arthurâs Seat, and from this post gazed in astonishment at the wide stretching blue of the harbor. It may be that the muskets that have been found mark a spot where the party thus halted.
Flinders on the following day crossed the Bay in his boat, and explored what is now Corio Bay, and the neighborhood of Geelong, climbing Station Peak there, and gazing from this eminence over a sunlit stretch of rolling bush and green pasture towards Mount Macedon. He had to leave shortly afterwards, however, for Sydney, and it was on May 8 that the Investigator shook her sails, dipped a courtesy to Port Phillip, and bore the explorer away.
(Zeehan and Dundas Herald (Tas. : 1890 â 1922) Tuesday 24 April 1917 p 4 Article)
SOLDIERS'MEMORIAL PARK. EXISTING HISTORY BOARD.
This land is shown on the Dromana Township map as having been gazetted in 1865 and 1890.It consisted of almost three acres but in 1910,the Crown intended to auction it (minus an eighth of an acre which had probably been reserved for a new court due to complaints in 1890 that are detailed in comments.) Alf Downward had obviously succeeded in preventing the auction.
scurfield's/ arthurs seat hotel 1857-1898 (PARTLY 363 PT. NEPEAN RD-HORSE TROUGH AND WELL DOME.)
WILLIAM DIXON SCURFIELD.
Scurfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following comes from the above source which evidently involved extensive genealogical research. The link given in references did not work but I managed to find the wife and descendants of John Barwise Scurfield whose first two children were named after his parents.
Early settlers to Australia
The earliest Scurfield settler to Australia appears to be William Dixon Scurfield (born 1811, Alnwick, Northumberland) who, in 1852, arrived in Melbourne, Australia with his wife, Catherine Hetherington Barwise, and children. His eldest son, John Barwise Scurfield (born 1844, Liverpool, Lancashire) married an English born woman named Charlotte Fox in 1866 in Melbourne. They had 12 children, nine of whom raised families in Australia.
John SCURFIELD - Genealogy.com
View Tree for John SCURFIELDJohn SCURFIELD (b. 09 Apr 1844, d. 1906)
John SCURFIELD was born 09 Apr 1844 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, and died 1906. He married Charlotte FOX on 27 Dec 1867 in East Collingwood, Australia, daughter of Thomas FOX and Mary PETTIGROVE.
More About John SCURFIELD and Charlotte FOX:
Marriage: 27 Dec 1867, East Collingwood, Australia.
Children of John SCURFIELD and Charlotte FOX are:
Catherine SCURFIELD, b. 1868, East Collingwood, Australia.
William SCURFIELD, b. 1870, Linton, Australia.
Rosina SCURFIELD, b. 1872, Elgin St, Carlton, Australia.
Walter SCURFIELD, b. 1874, Fortitude Valley, Australia.
Maud SCURFIELD, b. 1876, Fortitude Valley, Australia.
Alfred SCURFIELD, b. 1879, Bowen Hills, Australia.
May SCURFIELD, b. 1880, Fortitude Valley, Australia.
Charlotte SCURFIELD, b. 1883, Melbourne.
Frederick SCURFIELD, b. 1887, Mitchell, Australia.
Ernest SCURFIELD, b. 1889, Mitchell, Australia.
John SCURFIELD, b. 1892, Mitchell, Australia.
THE SCURFIELD HOTEL.
Richard Watkin may have built the Scurfield hotel and was operating it in 1858 and 1859 as well as supplying timber from Arthurs Seat to Melbourne builders. Richard claimed in 1880 that he established the Dromana Hotel in 1862 but the building was not completed in August 1863 when architect George R.Cox called for tenders for slating the roof. Where then was William Dixon Scurfield in 1859 and what was he doing to earn a crust? The same as described in the insolvency meeting of 1864.
OBTAINING MONEY UNDER FALSE PRETENCES. - George Jamieson, a sawyer, was placed in the dock on the above charge. William Dixon Scurfield, a tentmaker, said the prisoner came to his house on the previous day, about 4 o'clock, and said he wanted to purchase a new cart-cover. He said he lived at Mr. Bryant's, and that his waggon was there. He made an appointment with witness to go over to Mr. Bryant's in about an hour, to take the measure of the cart. He then asked witness to lend him a couple of pounds to pay a deposit on a horse he had purchased. Witness accordingly wrote him out a cheque for Â£3. In about an hour witness went over to Mr. Bryant's stable, and then found that the prisoner had no cart there at all. Witness subsequently meeting the prisoner, requested him to return the cheque, and took him to Mr. Bryant's, where, as soon as his back was turned, prisoner made off. Witness did not see him again until that morning, in custody. David Marks, a storekeeper in Elizabeth street, said the prisoner came to his shop on the previous day, between 3 and 4 o'clock, and purchased a silver watch and chain for Â£2 15s. He left the shop for a few minutes, and when he returned gave him the cheque now produced (for Â£3), and witness gave him back 5s, change. The prisoner was committed for trial.
IN the INSOLVENT ESTATE of WILLIAM DIXON SCURFIELD.
To Hotelkeepers and Others.
For SALE, by tender, subject to a mortgage of Â£300, the premises known as SCURFIELD'S HOTEL, Dromana, 47 miles from Melbourne. This property is most pleasantly situated, commanding a line view of the harbour, and consists of about two and a half acres of land, a portion of which is laid out as a garden, and buildings erected
thereon, consisting of an hotel, substantially built of pine, containing the following rooms : â bar, 20 ft.
by 13 ft.; two parlors, each 16 ft. by 15 ft.; four bedrooms, each 16 ft. by 15 ft.; two do., each 10 ft.by 10 ft. ; kitchen, fowl-house, stables, &c, ; also an attached three-roomed cottage, suitable for private families.
The whole of the furniture and stock is in good condition and is to be taken at a valuation.
Tenders, addressed to James Moore, Esq., official assignee, Eldon-chambers, endorsed' Tender for the Purchase of Scurfield Hotel,' will be received until twelve o'clock on Monday, the 30th inst. Further particulars, including a plan of the ground and buildings, together with an inventory of all stock and furniture, may be obtained at the office of the undersigned. J. AARONS, Trade Assignee, 6, Collins street,east.
N.B â Intending purchasers are respectfully informed that the mortgagee will allow Â£200 of the present mortgage to remain at current rates. 38 302 (P.7,The Age, 28-11-1863.)
WILLIAM DIXON SCURFIELD.
INSOLVENTS. THIRD MEETING.
In re W. D. Scurfield.â The insolvent, a tent maker, of Melbourne, did not appear, and, in the absences of any creditors, the meeting closed. The assignee, Mr Moore, filed his report, from which it appeared that the stock-in-trade of the insolvent had been sold by public auction, the net proceeds being Â£590 13s 10d. The Scurfield Hotel and freehold property at Dromana had been sold by tender for Â£347 4s 6d. The stock, furniture, &c., of the Scurfield Hotel realised Â£130, and was sold on the understanding that, should the insolvent be
voted any part of his furniture, tho value should be paid to him. Â£46 18s 4d had been collected on account of book debts, and Â£11 8s 9d had been received in cash from the insolvent. The mortgage on the Dromana property was paid off before the sale. Five small allotments of land at Broadmeadows and Footscray remain unsold, no
offer having been made for them. A dividend of about 6s in tho Â£1 would probably be paid to concurrent creditors. P.7, The Age,11-2-1864.)
The hotel was sold by the assignee but to whom? As the purchaser might never have been reported,I thought that the rate collectors might surprise me, but they didn't.
The first Kangerong Road Board assessment of 3-9-1864 rated William Dixon Scurfield on "house 9 rooms hotel,N.A.V. 60 pounds. The owner column was blank. On 2-9-1865, W.D.S.was assessed on three properties with assessment numbers recorded:66. 2 town lots; 67.9 room hotel,L.60.; 68. 43 acres of building land as agent for Ligar Elliot. This was crown allotment 1,section 1, Kangerong, bounded by McCulloch St, Arthur St and Palmerston Avenue.It had a frontage to The Esplanade that could be long jumped. It had been granted to William Dixon Scurfield according to the parish map but he may have bought it on Ligar's behalf. Somewhere in my special purpose rate transcriptions,Catherine Scurfield was recorded as leasing this land from Ligar Elliot, teamster.
The assessment remained the same until that of 4-9-1869 when under assessment 74, Mrs Dixon (sic)Scurfield was listed as the person to be rated on,and also as the OWNER of: "hotel, outbuildings and 5 town lots." The auditor had obviously criticised the absence of the owner's name for practically every property and few properties lacked this detail in 1869. By the assessment of 3-9-1870,owners' names no longer seemed important and William Dixon Scurfield was again rated on the property described in 1869 as well as the 43 acres that had apparently been completely missed in '69. The same assessment was recorded on 2-9-1871 but this time the rate collector had forgotten to list assessment numbers.
On 7-9-1872, Willie Scurfield, who had been back home in the pub from about 1867 (during which time Father Nyall had tried to interfere with Willie)was assessed on "town lot",while W.D.S. had the same assessment again.On 6-9-1873, W.D.S.was assessed on the pub and 5 town lots (A.No. 89)and the 43 acres (A.N.90)while Willie was rated again on town lot. In A.N.89 there was faint scribble above William Dixon Scurfield's surname and although it didn't look much like it should have,I knew exactly where to look when W.D.S. was not rated on the hotel and 5 town lots in the first Shire of Flinders and Kangerong assessment; he was only rated on the 43 acres and Willie's town lot was described as Young's land.
The scribble seemed to start with I and end with don,but sure enough, there was the 5-9-1874 assessment for Scurfield's hotel: Ass.No.4.Assender, George, hotel and 5 town lots, N.A.V. 60 Pounds.
William Dixon Scurfield was in financial trouble again although his assets were greater than his liabilities.
NEW INSOLVENTS......Wm. Dixon Scurfield, Dromana, licensed victualler. Liabilities, Â£479; assets, Â£650.
(P.14, Advocate,Melbourne, 25-4-1874.)
It was George Assender who renamed the pub as the Arthurs Seat Hotel. I wonder where George had been before he took over the Scurfield Hotel. Find out under the hotel's new name, THE ARTHURS SEAT HOTEL.
The following COURT REPORT shows that William Dixon Scurfield was running the Scurfield by 1864.
CRIMINAL CHARGE AGAINST THE REV. PATRICK NIALL.
At the police court at Mornington, on Saturday last, before Messrs. Templeton,P.M., Gillett, and Mairs, J.P.'s, Patrick Niall, a Roman Catholic priest, surrendered to his bail to answer a charge of committing a criminal assault upon George Fairlem. Superintendent Hare prosecuted. The prisoner was defended by Mr. R. D. Ireland,
Q.C., and Mr. Duigan, instructed by Mr. J,G. Morrison.
The first witness examined was George Fairlem, a mariner, late chief officer of the ship Hurricane, examined by Superintendent Hare.-'I recollect the 23rd of last month. I came ashore from the wreck to Scurfield's Hotel, at Dromana, about seven o'clock that evening. I saw the prisoner there. He arrived by the coach from Schnapper Point. I saw him once before, but did not speak to him. When I saw him on the 23rd ult., Mr.Scurfield introduced us. We sat beside the fire conversing. Mr. Scurfield was in the room at the time. Constable O'Shannassy came in after the prisoner had had his tea. About twelve o'clock the prisoner left the room, bid-
ding the company good night. I saw him about twenty minutes or half an hour after.He came to the parlour door, and apologised to Mrs. Scurfield for coming in his night-dress, saying he wished to speak to me. I said All right," and took no further notice. He shut the door, and went away. The prisoner was dressed in a night-shirt, a pair of pyjamas, and night-cap. In about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour he returned, and again said he wished to speak to me privately. Mrs. Scurfield and Constable O'Shannassy were in the room at the time. In reply to the prisoner I again said all right, and he shut the door. I then went out and saw him in the lobby ; he walked into his own room, and I returned to the parlour.
The same persons were still there. I think O'Shannassy then left the room. The prisoner again came to the door of the parlour, and said, ' Mr. Fairlem, I want to speak to you privately ; I will not detain you many minutes." I got up and went into the passage to see what he wanted.He did not speak, and walked to his room.
I followed, and stood at the threshold of the door. He caught hold of me by the hand,and tried to pull me in, and shut the door on me. He did not say anything at the time. I pushed him on one side, and returned to the parlour.
Mrs. Scurfield and Constable O'Shannassy were there. I stayed in the parlour about ten minutes ; it was then about one o'clock. I asked Mr. Scurfield to wake me in time to go by the coach in the morning. I was sober when I went to bed. I had two or three glasses of grog during the day and evening. I went to bed in the room I always occupy. The prisoner's room was about ten or twelve feet from mine. The curtain at the window of my bedroom was drawn up. I went to bed, and fell asleep. I was awakened about four a.m. by the bedroom door being opened,and I saw the prisoner standing at the door,I recognised him by his white dress. He shut the door softly, and came into the room. He came to the side of the bed. (The witness here described the attempt to commit the offence.)
I jumped out of bed, and pulled him out by the hair of the head, and thumped him round the room, calling him a dirty old beast. He got into his room, and fastened the door. I called to him if he did not open it I would break it. Mr. Scurfield then came into the passage, and the prisoner opened the door, and I struck him again. Mr.Scurfield went away, saying he would bring Constable O'Shannassy. When the constable came into the passage, I was still striking the prisoner, who called to him for help. I told O'Shannassy what I was striking him for, and continued striking him until he said the prisoner had had enough.
The prisoner tried to make O'Shannassy and Scurfield believe that he had only gone into my room to wake me
and that I accused him wrongfully. Mr.Scurfield ordered the prisoner out of his house. At that time the prisoner was all covered with blood, and both eyes bunged up. The prisoner went into his room, and shortly
after came out dressed, with his portmanteau in his hand. He said to Scurfield, "I hope you will not turn me out at such a time in the morning." Mr. and Mrs. Scurfield,O'Shannassy, the prisoner, and myself then went into the parlour. Mr. Scurfield said the prisoner should be exposed. The prisoner said I might as well take his life as expose him. I said I would not do so, as I had punished him enough. I told O'Shannassy all that had occurred in my bedroom. The prisoner was present at the time. The prisoner was sitting in a low chair or kneeling,
I cannot say which, when he asked me not to expose him. I went up to town in the coach shortly after. I have not seen the prisoner since, until to-day.
Cross-examined by Mr. Ireland.-I was very much excited at the time. I was sober at the time. I do not think I had more than six glasses of grog during the day and night. I never stated to any one that the offence had
been committed, and that is why I put the letter in the papers.
To Mr. Templeton,-I asked Mr. Scurfield to wake me in the morning. The prisoner,Mr. and Mrs. Scurfield, and Constable O'Shannassy were present at the time. There was a bright moonlight that night.
William Dixon Scurfield, examined by Superintendent Hare.-I am a hotelkeeper residing at Dromana. I have known the prisoner about five years. During that time he has been in the habit of staying at my house. Mr. Fairlem was staying at my house on the night of the 23rd August. The prisoner also came to my house that night by the
Schnapper Point coach. He arrived a little after eight o'clock. I shut up the bar at ten o'clock, and joined the prisoner, Mr. Fairlem, and Constable O'Shannassy in the parlour. I went to bed about one o'clock. I left Mr.Fairlem, the prisoner and O'Shannassy in the parlour. I cannot say if Mrs. Scurfield was in the parlour when I went to bed. About an hour after I was awoke by a noise of scuffling,and Fairlem's voice calling on me. The voice came from Fairlem's room, or in the lobby adjoining. I partly dressed, and went into the passage, and saw Fairlem standing outside the prisoner's door, threatening to burst it in if he did not come out. The prisoner opened the door, and came into the passage,Fairlem seized him, and a scuffle ensued, in which Fairlem struck the prisoner, saying" I will learn you to try on such tricks with me."
I went over to the police station for Constable O'Shannassy. When I returned the prisoner was washing the blood off his face, and Fairlem was in the parlour. Fairlem did not strike the prisoner after I returned, I was called into the prisoner's room, and he asked me what he had better do under the circumstances. O'Shannassy was present at the time. I advised him to go back immediately to Brighton. He said he could not do that, as he must go on to Point Nepean. He said he must make some excuse for his appearance, and asked me to remain silent as to the occurrence.
I promised to keep silence on one condition-namely, that the affair should not be misrepresented. The prisoner said he would account for the condition of his face by saying that he had fallen over a heap of wood in my yard. Some hours afterwards he asked me for the loan of my snuffbox, as he had mislaid his own. The prisoner left my house about noon on the 24th for Point Nepean. I saw the prisoner again on the evening of the 27th. He stayed at my house. I do not recollect if he said anything about the affair when he returned on the 27th of
The distance between the door of the prisoner's room and that of Fairlem's room is at the outside 9ft. A boy named Gardiner slept in the room opposite Fairlem's and adjoining tho prisoner's bedroom. ;A person in one room can overhear what is said in the other. I know the snuff-box produced. I saw it in the prisoner's possession on the night of the 23rd August. Fairlem was sober when I went to bed and also when I got up. I cannot recollect
the words used by Fairlem when he was striking the prisoner. He accused him of taking liberties with him. I said the prisoner had tried it on with my son.
Cross-examined by Mr. Ireland.-I am certain that the prisoner did not leave the room to go to bed before I went to bed.
To Mr. Templeton.-At the time Fairlem was striking the prisoner, and accusing him the prisoner said he had gone into his room to wake him to go by the coach.
Catherine Hetherington Scurfield, wife of the last witness, examined by Mr. Hare. Iremember the prisoner and Mr. Fairlem being at our house on the night of the 23rd August. They were in the parlour with Constable O'Shannassy and my husband all the evening. Tho prisoner and my husband left the room to go to bed about the same time, as well as I can recollect it was near half-past two o'clock. The prisoner afterwards came to the parlour door ; he was then in his nightdress. He begged my pardon,' and said he thought I had retired. He then shut the door and went into my private sitting-room, put out the light, and peeped through the curtains into the room where we were sitting, afterwards heard him in the passage, and Fairlem took him a glass of whiskey to the bedroom.
It was about fifteen minutes to three o'clock when I went to bed. Fairlem went to bed and O Shannassy went home at the same time. I was awoke by a noise of fighting in the passage, but did not leave my room. I saw the prisoner the next day. He said he would excuse tho state of his face by saying he had fallen over a wheelbarrow in our yard. Cross-examined by Mr. Ireland.-I did not hear the prisoner say to Fairlem that he wanted to speak to him privately. The prisoner only opened the door once, but I heard him in the passage three times. I did not go out of my room when I heard the noise of fighting in the passage. I did not leave my room till nine o'clock in tho morning.
William O'shannassy sworn.-I am a mounted constable stationed at Dromana. I have known the prisoner for fifteen years. I belong to his church and he has been my clergyman during that time. On the evening of tho 23rd August, I went to Scurfield's Hotel in consequence of a message I received from the prisoner, who wished to see me.
We were sitting in the parlour, in company with Mrs. and Mr. Scurfield and Fairlem,until about half-past eleven o'clock, when Scurfield went to bed, and the prisoner shortly afterwards went to bed also. About ten minutes afterwards he came back and asked for his valise, which I carried to his bedroom. He then had his clothes on, but was wearing his night-cap. When I went to his room he told me to tell Mr. and Mrs. Scurfield and Fairlem that it was time to go to bed. I told them what he said, but we remained there,and shortly afterwards he came in his nightdress and asked if I had gone. I stooped under tho table so that he might not see me. He told the others that it was time to go to bed. He then returned to his bedroom. He came to the door again about twenty minutes afterwards, and said "I want to see you, Mr. Fairlem." Fairlem went into the passage, and after a few minutes returned to tho parlour much excited. He showed his excitement by grinding his teeth and putting up his sleeves. Left about half an hour afterwards, and Fairlem went to his bedroom. It was about ten minutes to two
when I left Scurfield's Hotel.
I was awoke by Scurfield about ten minutes to four o'clock. I followed him to the hotel as soon as I could put my clothes on. I heard the noise of a scuffle going on in the house, and Fairlem's voice.When I went into the house I saw Fairlem striking the prisoner, having hold of the hair of his bead. I ran up and pulled Fairlem
away. The prisoner's face was covered with blood. Ho asked Fairlem if he did anything more when he went into his room than endeavour to wake him to go by the coach. Fairlem called him a liar. We went into Fairlem's bedroom, and I asked him if he was going to give the prisoner in charge for assault. He replied "No, I have given him enough." I then asked the prisoner if ho was going to give Mr. Fairlem in charge for ill-using and
abusing him. He said, " Oh no ; how could I do such a thing?" Scurfield said that he (the prisoner) had behaved improperly to his son some time before, but he screened him. The prisoner said if Fairlem would apologise, there would be no more saidabout it. Fairlem said, in a loud voice, "Apologise to you; never." The prisoner saidÂ¡ "Well then, we will say no more about it." Fairlem said, "I will say no more about it," and then shook hands.
Fairlem then went by the coach to Melbourne. Tho prisoner said he would account for the marks on his face by saying that he had fallen over some timber. When he returned from Point Nepean the prisoner asked me if the affair had become public. I told him that every one in Dromana knew of it, and that I had heard that Fairlem had spoken of him in Melbourne. The prisoner said, "William, I can hardly believe that,for Fairlem has no grounds for making such an accusation." I then advised him to proceed against Fairlem for ill-treating him. He replied, "It would never do for a priest to do that.
Cross-examined by Mr. Ireland.-I saw Fairlem take a glass of whiskey into the priest's room. When Fairlem came into the parlour after seeing the prisoner he was grinding his teeth. He said, " That old beggar wants to do something to me."
To Mr. Hare.-I did not see Fairlem go into the prisoner's room. Fairlem was not drunk when he went to bed.
To the Bench. -Scurfield was in the passage when I came there, and stopped Fairlem from striking the prisoner.
Baker Fachell, examined by Mr. Hare -
I am a waiter at Scurfield's Hotel at Dromana. I was at the hotel on the night of the 23rd August. I slept in the room marked C in the plan now produced. I went to bed about one o'clock. I woke between three and four o'clock, hearing the kitchen-door open. I heard some person in the kitchen, and saw the figure of a man go past the window of my room, going towards the house.I thought at the time it was the prisoner. About ten minutes afterwards I heard a scuffle in tho room on the right hand side, and then heard Fairlem's voice threatening
to break the prisoner's door down unless he opened it.
Christopher Gardiner, examined by Mr.Hare.-I live at Richmond with my mother. I am fifteen years of age. I was at Dromana on tho 23rd of August. I slept that night at Scurfield's Hotel, in tho room next the one the prisoner slept in, and opposite Fairlem's room. I was awoke about four o'clock by a noise in the passage, and I
heard tho voices of Fairlem and the prisoner and the sound of blows. The prisoner cried out. I then heard Scurfield say, "Put him out the back way, Fairlem." Some time afterwards I got up and dressed. I saw the prisoner standing in the passage. He was half-dressed,with the rest of his clothes in his hands.
This closed the case for the prosecution.
Mr. Ireland said that in the case put before them that day there was not the slightest attempt even to prove that the crime with which his client was charged had been committed. Mr. Templeton said that so far the Bench
agreed with him, but that the evidence went to show that there was an attempt to commit the crime.
Mr. Ireland thought that, accepting the evidence given by the witnesses, it did not show that even an attempt had been made. At the worst construction, it would show a licentious turn of mind, but nothing more. At that late hour (life?) would not enter into the details of the evidence. If the Bench thought there was a sufficient case to send the prisoner to trial ho would not attempt to impose on them the functions of a jury. In justice to the prisoner he did not wish it to be supposed that he had not good grounds for addressing a jury because he did not state them then.
Mr. Templeton said that the case had been brought very fairly before the court. They were of opinion that the case must go before a higher court, and that it would be no benefit to the prisoner if they discharged him. The prisoner was then committed for trial at the next criminal sessions.
In answer to Mr. Ireland Mr. Templeton said there was a difference of opinion between the magistrates whether the charge should be an attempt to commit a criminal assault or a common assault. On the application of Mr. Ireland the Bench reduced the amount of bail one half.
The same sureties were accepted in Â£500 each, and the prisoner himself in Â£1,000. The sureties were present, and the necessary bonds being entered into, the prisoner left the court with his friends.
CRIMINAL CHARGE AGAINST THE REV. PATRICK NIALL.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 13 September 1869 p 6 Article.
NEVER MENTIONED IN TRIAL REPORTS.
In our fourth page will be found the statement of a very serious charge against the Rev.Patrick Niall of criminally assaulting the chief officer of the ship Hurricane, named Fairlem. A letter by Fairlem denying that this felonious assault had taken place appeared in the Melbourne Herald, but this journal subsequently
explained that this denial referred not to the attempt to commit the offence but to its actual perpetration. As it was supposed that Fairlem, who had shipped on board another vessel,was about to leave the colony he was arrested and bound over to appear at Dromana, on Saturday. A telegram from Melbourne states that the Rev. Mr. Niall has been committed for trial, bail allowed in Â£2000, with sureties of Â£1000 each. (The Gundagai Times and Tumut, Adelong and Murrumbidgee District Advertiser (NSW : 1868 - 1931) Saturday, 18 September 1869 p 2 )
THE ARTHURS SEAT HOTEL.
George Assender had taken over the Scurfield Hotel by September 1874 and ran it for over a decade but little mention was made of him in Dromana's current written history, except in connection with the Union Church.
George Assender was born on 17-10-1834 in Southwark,Surrey, England to James Joseph Assender (born at the same place in 1804) and Ruth (nee Everett) who died in 1841 aged 37.
(George Assender b. 17 Oct 1834 Southwark, Surrey ...
George Assender's death notices tally with a birth in 1834 and also supplies a link to the articles below. There is no mention of George's daughter Isabella whose piano was mentioned in George's insolvency meeting in 1885.
ASSENDER.âOn the 15th inst., at his daughter's residence, Blairmore, Gertrude-street, Windsor, George, the beloved husband of Grace Assender,late of Dromana, aged 60 years.
ASSENDER.âOn the 15th inst., at his daughters residence, Mrs Jones, Windsor, the loving father of Janie Ford, Lucy Hall, and Annie Assender, of Albert-park, at the age of 60, after a short illness. (P.1, Argus,16-3-1895.)
MESSAGES TO THE DIGGINGS, &c.
MR. J. ASSENDER, of Hindmarsh.
Your Wife is very anxious concerning you, only having had two letters from you, the last being dated the 4th September. All well at home. (P.4,Adelaide Observer, 10-12-1854.)
N.B. J.Assender had left Adelaide for Melbourne aboard the Asia on 24-1-1852. (P.2, South Australian Register,26-1-1852.)
A Second Charge.âThe same prisoner was then charged with stealing a prayer-book, value one shilling,the property of Joseph Assender, now at Melbourne.
(Adelaide Observer (SA : 1843 - 1904) Saturday 25 November 1854 p 7 Article)
WILLIAM SMITH, of Adelaide, lately engaged on the Argus newspaper, will oblige by writing to Mr. G. Assender, care of Lewis and Nickrison*(sic), Rushworth, as his mother and sister are anxious to hear of his whereabouts.
N.B. There was still an Assender presence in Rushworth in 1952,the birth being reported in a South Australian newspaper.
The correct spelling would seem to be Nickinson; James Nickinson and George Assender may have been cousins. NICKINSON.âOn the 19th November, 1892, at the residence of her son-in-law, Fernbank-villa, South Wimbledon, Surrey, England, Jane Assender, the dearly-beloved mother of James M. Nickinson, of Shepparton, Victoria, aged 80 years. A conscientious Christian woman, whose constant care was that her children should be brought up to fear the Lord. (P.1, Argus, 2-1-1893.)
On the 23rd September, at Whroo*, Victoria, by the Rev. Theodore Budd, George Assender, late of Adelaide, to Grace Menzies, of Perth, Scotland.(P.6,South Australian Register, 11-10-1858.)
(*Another notice,in The Argus, stated that George and Grace were both residents of Whroo,near Goulburn.)
Appointments to committees of Common Schools:......Kingstown : Frank Baker, Thomas Young, Emile Huide, Joseph
Emmott, James M. Nickenson, George Assender. (P.5, The Age, 27-5-1865.)
WANTED, a TEACHER, for Common School,Kingstown. Apply Geo. Assender, P.O., Kangaroo Ground.
(P.1, Argus, 18-2-1870.)
Mr. Candler held an inquest on the 11th inst. at Eltham, on the body of George Moore, aged 33 or 34 years, a horse dealer.
On Wednesday evening the deceased was at Kangaroo-ground, Nilumbik, Eltham, in company with a storekeeper named Assender,and, as both were going to Kingston, the latter, on meeting deceased advised him to drive his vehicle behind Assender's cart, and he would be all right. Assender started, but the night was so dark that he could not tell whether the other followed......(P.6, Argus, 14-8-1871.)
SCHOOL BOARDS OF ADVICE.
The election for the north riding of the shire of Eltham comprising Kangaroo ground and St Andrews came off on Thursday, and resulted in the return of Messrs Contie, E H Cameron, Robert Smith, Jas.Johnston, and George Assender. (P.5, Argus,7-7-1873.)
George was off to Dromana soon after he was re-elected to the Board of Advice. Within a few years of arriving,he was well-regarded enough to be appointed to the building committee of the proposed Union Church in 1877 and as a trustee of the church in 1878. (P.114-115 A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
However by 1885 George had become insolvent.His daughter Isabella is not mentioned in George's death notice. However Isabella had become Mrs Jones, and it was at her house that George died.
(Assender Isabella Grace Jones - Melbourne South
www.ancientfaces.com âº History âº Jones Family)
George's widow,Grace,also died at Isabella's home.
ASSENDER. â On the 22nd October, at the residence of her daughter, Gertrude-street, Windsor, Grace, relict
of the late George Assender, aged 76.(P.1,The Prahran Telegraph,30-10-1909.)
ASSENDER.-The Friends of the late Mrs.GRACE ASSENDER are respectfully informed that her remains will be interred in the St. Kilda Cemetery.The funeral will leave her residence, "Blairmore," Gertrude street, Windsor, THIS DAY (Saturday, 23rd inst.), at 11 a.m.(P.13, Argus,23-10-1909.)
N.B. George was also buried at St Kilda Cemetery. Grace is not on the late Gary Batt's index.Perhaps there was no inscription for Grace.
An adjourned examination was held in the estate of George Assender, of Dromana hotelkeeper, Mr Braham appearing for the trustee.
George Assender, the insolvent, was further examined in detail respecting the circumstances under which a quantity of furniture, a piano, and some household goods were removed from his hotel to Mrs, Kittle in South Melbourne, a few days before sequestration.
Isabella Assender, daughter of the insolvent, also examined, stated that she bought the piano which had been removed, and paid for it with her own money which she had obtained for wages andin gifts from visitors to the hotel. She was not at the hotel when any of the goods were removed, and knew nothing about the removal. Mrs Kittle had not told her that the goods had been seized by the assignee. The examination then closed. (P.3,Argus,15-5-1885.)
To cut a long story short,Catherine Wainwright's husband died after she and he took over the Arthur Seat Hotel (formerly Scurfield's) and Catherine became the licensee. The very next year Catherine Allinson was the licensee and my suspicion that blacksmith, William Allinson,had married Widow Wainwright was confirmed.
Mrs. Catherine Jane Wainwright,widow, applied to the Court for permission to carry on the business of her latehusband, at the Arthur's Seat hotel, Dromana, and on the license granted to him.In reply to the Bench she stated she had taken out letters of administration to the estate.-The Bench informed Mrs. Wainwright that the application was unnecessary and that as administratix she could conduct the business until the end of the
year, when she would require to apply to the Court for a license.-Mrs. Wainwright thanked the Bench and withdrew the present application.
(South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 16 June 1886 p 3 Article)
WAINWRIGHT.âOn 2nd August, at the residencc of his parents. 15 Horace-street,Quarry Hill, Bendigo. William, twin son of H. M. and A. R Wainwright. grandson of Mrs. B. T. Boag, Dromana, and Mrs. W.Allison, Footscray, aged 17 months.(P.6, Bendigo Advertiser, 5-8-1914.)
I was told that the Wainwights had lived at James Robertson Boag's Melrose dairy/guest house (c/a 11,section 1, Kangerong of 88 acres between the Panoramic Estate (bisected diagonally by Freida St) and the Monaco Estate (east, inclusive of Lombardy St.) The streets on Melrose are named after flowers and trees such as Canna and Fig. This is why Melrose became a Wainwright residence.Annette's second given name probably came from Commander Melville G.H.W. Ross,grantee of the Panoramic Estate and a navigator who charted the entrance of Port Phillip Bay and the route of the cable near Flinders.
WAINWRIGHTâBOAG.âOn the 21st March, at the Presbyterian Church, Dromana, by the Rev.J. Gibson, West Melbourne, Horatio M. Wainwright,of Perth (W.A.), to Annette Ross, eldest daughter of the late James R. Boag, of "Mel- rose", Dromana. (P.9, Argus,29-4-1905.)
The rate collector expected me to believe that Lawrence Murphy was running the Dromana Hotel and the Arthurs Seat Hotel at the same time in the 1897 assessment,just months before the latter was burnt to the ground. This would not make sense unless Murphy had the idea of ARSON AROUND. But Lawrence was one of the most respected citizens in Mornington (where he'd run a coach service and later ran the Royal Hotel on the Esplanade)and Dromana (where he was the prime mover in establishing the Catholic Church.) It just didn't make sense.
The following showed what a dill the rate collector as well as exposing the error in Spencer Jackson's BEAUTIFUL DROMANA,1927, that the fire had swept down the mountainside;it obviously started within the hotel.
The old-established Arthur's Seat Hotel, containing about 20 rooms, was demolished by fire on Sunday morning.
The licensee, Mr Charles Brown, was aroused from his slumbers by the screeching of a parrot caged in the
house. On proceeding to ascertain the cause he was met by volumes of dense smoke. He at once alarmed the inmates, but despite the strenuous efforts on the part of Mr Brown and several residents the building was burned to the ground. The Misses Brown showed commendable presence of mind in rescuing the horses from the stable. A piano, sewing-machine, several bedsteads and bedroom furniture were saved, also the conveyances ,and harness. The stabling and a detached building containing two rooms escaped the ravages of the fire. The building and furniture were purchased some four years ago by Miss Anketell of Melbourne, and were insured.
(DROMANA. Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Thursday 28 April 1898 p 3 Article)
horse trough, springs
Cr. Griffith drew attention to the spring below the Arthur's Seat Hotel, the cattle being allowed to wander over it and make it unfit for use. As the council had gone to the expense of a tank something should be done to keep the water pure. If it were fenced in the cattle could get water at the trough. The secretary was instructed to have it fenced. (P.3,Mornington Standard, 3-3-1898.)
HISTORY BOARD WITH PORTION OF DROMANA TOWNSHIP MAP BETWEEN FOOTE ST AND BURRELL ROAD,THE SHOWGROUNDS RESERVE, THE DEBNEYS, THE PROPOSED ROAD TO THE CEMETERY (PARK ST) AND HERONSWOOD. HENRY BOURNE HIGGINS' OBITUARY
THE POST OFFICE.
As stated previously,the Township was west of McCulloch St (to Burrell Rd, which despite the virtual cliff was supposed to connect the Esplanade and the north-south section of Latrobe Pde.)East of McCulloch St were crown allotments 1-8 of section 1 Kangerong.
In A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, Colin McLear stated that the original post office was in a granite building named Carnarvon,situated on the corner of Foote St and Latrobe Pde.
"In the 19th century prospecting days about Dromana miners could sell their findings to Dawes who ran a store on the corner of Foote St. and Latrobe Parade in the first Carnarvon which stood there then. On the counter stood his gold scales in what was the first Dromana Post Office. (P.54 with photo.)
Despite the majority of permanent residents being tenants on the survey in the mid 1850's when the township site was decided, the centre of population was probably farther west with many timber getters working on Arthurs Seat. The zig-zagging Tower Rd, which was used as a boundary between the township's suburban allotments, may have been created by bullock drivers bringing timber to the coast by the shortest possible route. Codrington St, which divides township streets to the west running at right angles to the coast and those such as Verdon St, which don't, may have been a continuation of this track.
Another early track may have been between McLear Rd near the summit and Caldwell Rd, which formed the boundary between suburban allotments and William Grace's "Gracefield",granted in 1857. This track would have continued along McCulloch St,the eastern boundary of the township.
Despite the township being proclaimed in 1861, the suburban blocks of mostly 2 roods (half an acre) were being sold in about 1858. Richard Watkins, who is stated wrongly as establishing the Dromana Hotel in 1857 (actually 1862 not counting the slate roof) was in 1858 running Scurfield's hotel as well as selling Arthurs Seat timber (in competition with another firm.)
Proclamation of the township meant that the Crown would provide a school and a post office. Shortly afterwards, Robert Quinan and Daniel Nicholson were scrambling to have their private schools chosen as the Common School. Interestingly, many of those who signed the 9-3-1861 petition (P.132 A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA)were Survey residents. The private school near Wallaces Rd on the Survey had apparently closed after the death of the teacher's wife. With the school also west of McCulloch St, Survey children could pickup the mail on their way home from school, so the location of the post office was not a great problem.
On page 138, Colin McLear wrote:
From its original premises,the post office moved into another granite building of the same period,this time in the main shopping centre. These premises were owned by Walter Gibson and also incorporated brick from the Glenholme (sic) clay pits. In later years these offices were replaced by a used car yard.
I have been trying since I started this journal to find the second article about the removal/argument re the post office first seen years ago. It was found by accident when I was trying to find out whether Pattersons Lane had been renamed Wallaces Rd after a Wallace family. The first article was found when I unsuccessfully searched for a request from Water Gibson to the Flinders and Kangerong to have the township boundary altered to take in the area near the pier. (Perhaps that was in 1885 when Peter Pidoto's parents-in-law died? No!*)
The Postmaster-General was waited upon on Friday by Mrs.(Alex.)Haldan, accompanied by Mr. Fergusson, M.L.A., the object being to draw his attention to the inconvenience caused to the residents of Dromana by the removal of the post and telegraph office from that place to some distance outside Dromana. Mrs. Haldan represented that her husband had held the office of postmaster in Dromana for many years till the office was removed,and if it were now re-transferred to Dromana she was willing to supply a building for the purpose free of cost to the department. Mr. Cuthbert replied that if it was the wish of the residents generally that the office should be re-transferred,he would take the matter into consideration.
Mr.Gibson, the lessor of the post-office building, afterwards waited upon the Postmaster-General, and represented that he was one of the guarantors to the department in regard to the post-office at Dromana, and he desired that they might not be called upon to pay the deficiency of L.105 in the revenue. In support of his request he quoted several precedents, and Mr. Cuthbert promised to take the matter intoconsideration.Telegraph.
(South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 5 June 1878 p 2 Article)
A strenuous effort is being made by one section of the community to have the post and telegraphic office removed to a site remote from the general traffic. The advocates of this movement argue that the post and tele-
graph office should be in the township, which is certainly right in the abstract, but the township of Dromana is anomalously situated, the jetty and principal places of business being some distances beyond its boundary.
The jetty, however, is naturally the convergent point, from all the traffic of the district. The other section of the inhabitants, therefore, argue that the post office is in the right place, being in close proximity to the centre of trade and feel that the proposed removal, if carried out, would, be injurious to the interests of the district at large. The Postmaster General has been interviewed by both sides, and a petition has been got
up for presentation by the removalists. The result remains to be seen.
(South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 12 June 1878 p 3 Article)
*PROOF OF THE SAYING:"YOU MAKE YOUR OWN LUCK."
If I had not decided to write a journal about Alex Haldan and suspected that Cr. George M.Henderson was a relative of Alexander's wife, I would never have discovered the article about Walter Gibson,actually George McLear, wanting to extend the township boundary toward the pier. I knew all the right key words apart from the petitioner's name, and was sure that the article was from 1878 but there was not one result on trove.
A petition was presented by Councillor McLear; praying that the boundary of the present township of Dromana might be so extended as to include the jetty and other places of business. The petition was signed by a number of owners of land in the township, and also by nearly all the owners of land sought to be incorporated. Notice of motion was given for the consideration of the matter at the next meeting of the Council.
(P.3, South Bourke and Mornington Journal, 3-7-1878.)
THE SHOWGROUNDS RESERVE.
In 1910, the Lands Department informed the Shire of Flinders and Kangerong that it had permanently reserved this reserve but this fact was not gazetted until 1929. Why the delay? I'm not going to tell you what prompted
such urgent action after such a lengthy delay. Read page 181 of Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA where the article, SALE OF PUBLIC RESERVE (Peninsula Post,September 13 1928) is reproduced.
N.B. The showgrounds reserve, bounded by McArthur St, Clarendon St, Stawell St and Latrobe Pde, and now occupied by the bowls club, consists of 3 acres 1 rood and 24 perches. In the Lands Department correspondence of 1910,which I reproduced in comments, I forgot to correct the faulty digitisation re the number of perches.
The Debneys were pioneers of Flemington,having established their tannery on today's Debney's Paddock just north of the Flemington bridge by 1874. As George Washington Debney had been a councillor,it was not surprising that he became involved in public affairs at Dromana. His retirement and move to Dromana was probably hastened by the destruction of the tannery by fire. Tanneries don't smell all that nice so George lived in Victoria St, Boundary Rd and finally Bagotville (near the Flemington racecourse and showgrounds) before moving to Dromana. His daughter married one of the Pattersons (after which family Pattersons Rd at Fingal was named, and Wallaces Rd on the Survey was originally named*) so the Debneys had obviously holidayed at Dromana for some time before their permanent residence there began.
*C'MON ITELLYA! HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT G.W.'S DAUGHTER DIDN'T MARRY A PATTERSON FELLA FROM THE ASCOT VALE OR FLEMINGTON AREA? Okay conscience,I'll check. You don't have to shout!
PATTERSON - DEBNEY. -On the 21st December, at Washington, Ascotvale,by the Rev. A.C.Caffin, of St.Paul's, Ascotvale, Godfrey Ralph, second son of Ralph Patterson, of Cape Schanck, to Jean Muirhead, only daughter of George Washington Debney, of Washington, Ascotvale. Pre(sent address, Pine Grove,Cape Schanck.
Unfortunately the marriage was cut short by Jean's death. Her mother had plenty of grief in a short time, with her husband and only daughter dying and then Norm's wife deserting him and nicking off to Perth. By the way, Norm had probably taken over lots 18 and 19 of the Clarke Estate from Ralph Godfrey (sic) Patterson by mid 1911. In 1910, Godfrey was rated on lots 18 and 19 on the south side of Patterson's Lane (Wallace's Rd)and Jane Smith* Debney was rated on section 7, Dromana (township).
Jan 18, 2011 - George Washington DEBNEY  was born in 1847 in Royston Hertfordshire England and died on 18 Feb 1917 in Dromana VIC Australia ..
George (W.)married Jane SMITH  [MRIN: 29625] on 29 Dec 1874 in Hotham Colony of Victoria. Jane was born in 1854 in Peterculter Aberdeen Scotland.
PATTERSON (nee Debney) In loving memory of my dear daughter, who died 14th December, 1916, loved daughter of the late G. W. Debney, only sister of James, Leslie, Albert, Norman.(Inserted by her loving mother and brothers-,J.Debney,- Dromana.)
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 15 May 1874 p 1 Advertising
... _ WANTED, an APPRENTICE, or Turnover, Currier Debney Tannery, Flemington Bank,
DESTRUCTIVE FIRE. TANNERY BURNT.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 19 July 1909 p 7 Article
... noticed flames in the boiler shed of Debney Brothers' Tannery, near Flemington Bridge at about ... Debney Brothers have carried on business in the tannery for over 30 years.
The New Hall-- On Monday evening last a public meeting was held to devise ways and means of raising the sum of Â£100, so that the Government offer of another Â£10O might be accepted. Owing to the inclement weather, the
attendance was not as large as it otherwise would have been, but it was fairly representative. Mr G.W. Debney occupied the chair, and briefly explained the object of the meeting. (P.2, Mornington Standard,18-5-1912.)
News has been received of the severe illness of Mr. George Debney, a few years back a well-known tanner and
resident of Bagotville. Mr. Debney, now a resident of Dromana, has been recently incapacitated by an apoplectic
affection, and, as troubles never come singly, his daughter (Mrs. Patterson, also of Dromana) was, a few days ago,compelled to become a patient in a private hospital at East Melbourne.
The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Thursday 16 September 1915 p 3 Article)
Now it is known as Debney's Park.
The Debney family was also active in local affairs, with George Washington Debney serving on the first council of the Flemington- Kensington Borough in 1883.
FLEMINGTON AND KENSINGTON COUNCIL.
Tuesday, 24th September
From Messrs Debney Bros, asking permission to erect a drying shed at their tannery.
(P.2,North Melbourne Advertiser,26-9-1890.)
Debney's to be play area
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 17 November 1953 p 7 Article
... Debney#s to be play area W M The future of Dcbney's Paddock, Flemington, has been settled at last
17 Latrobe Parade Dromana
The first time offered for sale in 5 generations this Victorian home is close to the beach with bay views and is positioned on land of just over a Â¼ acre. The four main rooms of the house were built about 1912. A large family room was added shortly thereafter to provide extra sleeping space, while a sunroom was added in more recent years. The original building works are of rendered granite rubble and were built by the well known local builders, the Jordan brothers. This form of construction was fairly localized to the Dromana area and the house is listed on the Heritage Buildings list as a building of local significance.
Of course I've read the heritage study but when I googled DEBNEY,DROMANA,HERITAGE, it was a real estate agent that provided the necessary information. There is also a beach house mentioned in the study in relation to the Debneys that I will need to find for inclusion in the return walk along the foreshore.
My rate transcriptions were mainly concerned with farms but luckily in the last assessment available on microfiche,that of 1919-1920,I transcribed Dromana Township (folios 102-103.) Mrs Jane S.Debney of Dromana was assessed on the eastern half of section 7 and buildings,nett annual value 30 pounds. The rate collector's handwriting was terrible and my guess at the house name was WASBERYSON.
The Dromana Township map shows that section 7 was bounded by Stawell St,Layard St, Pasley St and Latrobe Pde. There were only two crown allotments,the eastern half being c/a 1, consisting of 2 roods (half an acre) with frontages of 40 metres to Stawell St and 50 metres to Latrobe Pde.
Washington is the newer or better preserved of two houses on c/a 1, section 7. The one nearer to Stawell St has thick concrete pillars and was in a most dilapidated state when I parked in Stawell St to inspect the east half of section 7 a couple of years ago while on my campaign to identify heritage places before they were demolished.
DR. WILLIAM McCREA.
It is of interest that all of section 7 was granted to W.McCrea in 1856,five years before Dromana Township was proclaimed. The grantee was Dr McCrea who was assessed on 120 acres, Dromana, on 3-9-1864. In 1865,MCREA was assessed on 3 town lots,N.A.V.5 pounds. In 1879, Wm. McCrea, physician, was assessed on 12 town lots. Other blocks were granted early to Commander Melville G.H.W.Ross and M.Foley.
My earlier belief that Dr McCrea was related to Dr Farquhar McCrae and his brother, Andrew, of the Arthurs Seat Run was wrong and McCrea St opposite the Campbell's Creek Cemetery near Castlemaine was certainly named after this early Dromana Township grantee, the colony's chief medical officer.
See William McCrea's biography:
Anecdotal Photograph. Dr. William McCrea.
Table Talk (Melbourne, Vic. : 1885 - 1939) Friday 1 May 1896 p 3 Article.
GOVERNMENT LAND SALE.
A sale of Crown lands took place at Messrs. Tennent and Oo.'s auction rooms yesterday, the lots comprising 87 town, and 5 country lots. The bidding was generally tranquil, and the lots fell into the hands of only nine
person. The total amount realised was Â£1421 10s. 1d. Subjoined are the particulars :
County of Bourke, pariBh of South Melbourne.Upset price, Â£300 per aero.
Lot 1. Twelve perches, J. E. Crockford, Â£G0 the lot.
Lot 2. Twelvo perches, William Jones, Â£61 the lot.
At Arthur's Seat, on the eastern shore of Port Phillip Bay, county of Mornington, parish of Kangerong.
Upset price, Â£8 per acre.
Lot 3. Two roods, Williom Jones, Â£10 tho lot.
Lot 4. Two roods, James Blacklook, Â£12 the lot.
Lot 6. Two roods, W. D. Sourfield. Â£7 10J the lot.
Lot 6. Two Ã®oods, W. D. Scurfield, Â£1 IK' the lot.
Lot 7. Two roods, W. D. Scurfield, Â£1 the lot.
Lot 8. Two roods, W. D. Scurfield, Â£1 10s the lot.
Lot9. Two roods, W. M'Orca, Â£1 10s. thi lot.
Lot 10. Two roods, W. M'Orea, Â£6 5s. tho lot.
Lot 11. One rood thirty-one perches, W. D. Scurfield, Â£8 10s. the lot. '
Lot 12. Two roods, W. M'Orea, Â£4 10s. t o lot.
Lot l8. Two roodB, M. G. H. W. Ross, Â£10 the lot.
Lot 14, Two roods, M. G. H. W. Ross, Â£12 ICs. the lot.
Lot 16. One rood twenty-four perches, W. M'Orea, Â£6 16s. the lot.
Lot 16. One rood twenty-four perchos, W. M'Orea, Â£416s. the lot.
Lot 17. One rood twenty-four perohes, W. M'Orea, Â£3 15s. the lot.
Lot l8 One rood twenty-four porches, W.M'Crca,Â£3 4s.tholot.
Lot 19. One rood twenty-four perohes, W.M'Crea, Â£4Ã¶s. the lot.
Lot 20. Two roods, W. M'Orea, Â£5 6s. the lot.
Lot 21. Two roods, W. M'Orea, Â£10 tho lot.
Lot 22. Two roods, W. M'Orea, Â£10 63. tho lot.
Lot 23. Two roods, W. M'Orea, Â£10 15s. tha
Lot 24. Two loods, A. H. Bates, Â£916s. tho lot.
Lot 25. Two roods, A. H. Bates, Â£6 5s. tho
Lot 26, Two roods, Michael Foley, Â£5 10s.
Lot 27. Two roods, Michael Foley, SA 16s ti c lot.
Lot 28. Two roods, W. M'Orea, Â£5 the lot.
Iot 29. Two roods, W. M'Orea, Â£5 the lot.
Lot 30. Two roods, W. M'Crea, SA the lot.
Lot 31. Two roods, W. M'Orea, Â£5 6B. the lot.
Lot 82. Two roods, M, G. H. W. Bo3s, Â£18 the lot.
Lot 38. Two roods, M. G. H. W. Boss, Â£15 the lot.
Lot 34. Two roods, M. G. H. W. Ross, Â£18i th clot.
Lot 85. Two roods, M.kG. H. W. Ross, Â£12 the lot.
Lot 80. Two roods, John Towers, Â£22 10s. the lot.
Lot 37. Two roods, W. M'Crea, Â£30 the lot.
anthony's nose. DANGER, MELBOURNE BRINDLE'S DAD'S SIGN.
DEBNEY BEACH HOUSE.
FORESHORE COMMITTEE BEACH HOUSE DEPOT (MURAL)
pier and history board, george bishop (Domana Tech., valour)and ernie rudduck (ewart brindle/ferrier etc)
R. H. Adams, Rosebud, re regulation of cab traffic at Dromana pier and the placing of number of license in a conspicuous place on each licensed.-The President suggested that letter be handed to Constable Joyes with a request that he will take action to register the traffic at Dromana Jetty.-The recommendation was adopted. (Flinders and Kangerong Shire Council. SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 26TH.
Mornington and Dromana Standard (Vic. : 1908 - 1911) Saturday 10 December 1910 p 3 Article)
BISHOP George Arthur 1958-69
The reserve containing the playground near the Dromana Pier is called the George A.Bishop Reserve. It was so-named in 1972 after George Bishop, a Dromana resident since 1939, because of his tireless community service which included the period mentioned above as a councillor.
George Bishop's arrival in Dromana was due to his posting there as a policeman. A photo of First Constable G.Bishop (President Dromana Cricket Club), of relatively poor quality, can be seen on page 9 of the Standard of 28-2-1946. George's police work involved smart work to prevent burglars escaping and a search on the bay for three fishermen in 1944, a search for a 22 month old boy and a murder in 1948, bravely disarming an armed shooter in 1950 at Clondrisse Station, the discovery of human bones and battling a huge fire near Red Hill in 1951, and Shirley Collins' murder at Mt Martha in 1953. George and his colleague received the Police Valour Medal for the incident at Clondrisse. (P.3, Argus, 3-10-1951, with a much better photo of George!)
A record of his public service is available on trove. For example:
SHIRE OF FLINDERS' REPATRIATION COMMITTEE. At a public meeting, held in the Memorial Hall, Dromana for the purpose of forming the Dromana Advisory Committee, the following were elected:- Messrs. G. W. Brown, G.A. Bishop, C. C. Copp, A. Flockhart, C. Hickman, A. F. Johnson. (acting secretary),,W.Miller, J. Pettigrew, G. Osborne, W. Lardner; H. H. Strickland; E. Rudduck, and R. Moorehead. The committee will appoint four representatives nominated by the group committees. (P.3, Standard, Frankston, 14-9-1944.)
DROMANA DROMANA VICTORY CELEBRATIONS. Huge Success Likely. Mr. George Bishop, honorary organiser, reported on Tuesday that the stage was set for the holding of the monster celebrations and welcome home at Dromana on Friday.etc.(P.6, Standard, 28-3-1946.)
DROMANA DROMANA FORESHORE The secretary of the Flinders Shire (Mr. H. H. Strickland) presided over a public meeting held at Dromana for the purpose of electing a committee of management for the Dromana Foreshore Reserve. The president of the shire (Cr. W. G. Hiscock) was unable to preside because of illness. Many people attended the meeting, at which there was considerable discussion. A certain amount of criticism was levelled at the old committee by some people present. The election resulted in the following persons being chosen to represent the Trust for a period of three years: Messrs. Sam. Wilson, D. Shaw, B. Andrew, J. Ross, W. Lardner, H. Trivett, G. Bishop and B. Hewitt. (P.6, Standard, 1-8-1946.)
Beside the approach to the Dromana Pier are the George Bishop Reserve to the west and and Ernest Rudduck Square to the east. Colin McLear mentioned the latter in A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA and it was years before I discovered its location by pure chance. Both men were obviously great community contributors but apparently they were also both Shire of Flinders councillors although the LIME LAND LEISURE index on the internet does not mention this, and the heroic George Bishop was not in the index at all.
Therefore I was surprised to find that Dromana Secondary College exists because of George Bishop's persistence. As one of the aims of my research is to acknowledge our pioneers, I often google one of them just to check that I have succeeded. My internet research is usually done from trove (old newspapers)so I hadn't seen this before.
History and Tradition - Dromana Secondary College
Dromana Technical School 1967-1988
Dromana Secondary College 1988-2007
Dromana Technical School 1967-1988 Dromana Secondary College 1988-2007
Albeit minimal in numbers settlement commenced in the district as early as 1838. It would take until February 1861 before Dromana was proclaimed a township. Only thirteen years later in 1874 primary education began with the establishment of the Dromana State School No184, but it would take another 93 years before secondary education in Dromana commenced.
Cr George Bishop, a Flinders Shire Councillor and Policeman stationed at Dromana, having failed to get a Technical School in Mornington the year before, called a meeting at the Rosebud Memorial Hall in October 1966 for parents of prospective students. He reported to the large crowd in attendance that his tireless work had paid off and he had won the struggle to obtain a technical school at Dromana.
Cr Bishop believed that the time was right to open a technical school to compliment Rosebud High School, a co-educational secondary school that had commenced operation in 1954, and Red Hill Consolidated School which held classes from Prep to Form 4 (Year 10). Any boy however wanting a trade education had to catch a bus and those who resided on the Westernport side of the peninsula, a train to Frankston Technical School.
It was Cr Bishop's drive and enthusiasm and his no nonsense approach to the community that ensured the establishment of our school. At the time of the opening of the school (107 years after our town's humble beginnings) the population on the southern peninsula had reached a level where justification was in order for a permanent technical school for the district south of Frankston taking in the areas covered by the Shires of Flinders, Mornington, and Hastings.
FISHERMEN AND THEIR BOATS.
Here are some pioneers of Dromana that will never appear in any other history of Dromana. I was checking if George R.Cox had designed the original Dromana hotel when I found this grisly tale. I don't think Mary Cox was a relative of Commander Cox, surveyor,who bought 60 acres from the crown but somebody doing a COX family history might be wondering how she died at Dromana in 1867.
Shocking Death from Drink. â Mr Candler held an inquest at Dromana, on Friday, upon the body of a widow named Mary Cox, aged thirty-nine years. The deceased was living with a fisherman named James Martin, who left her at his hut last Monday morning when he went out to pursue his vocation. On his return, on the following day,he found her lying on tho floor drunk.Her dress, the bed-clothes and other things had caught fire and were smouldering. Assistance was procured, and the fire extinguished. She was found to be burnt on the arm and shoulders. Fisher procured a stretcher, and removed her to another house. She was then sensible and able to speak. On Wednesday she became violent and died during the day. Mr J. P. Lane made a post mortem examination, and found death to have resulted from congestion of the brain and other organs. There were no marks of violence upon the body, other than those described. Tho burns might have hastened her death, but it was very improbable that she would have lived had tho fire not occurred. The jury returned a verdict of death from congestion of the brain, brought on by excessive drinking. (P.5, The Age,20-5-1867.)
Dromana.-At this place there is a fine jetty, but no good shelter for boats. There are four men employed in the immediate vicinity as fishermen, who have two boats and one seine. The township is situated on a flat near an extensive sandy beach, but there are some fine sites in the neighbourhood of Arthur's Seat which will no doubt
attract the attention of the residents of Melbourne seeking a seaside residence.
(THE FISHERIES IN PORT PHILLIP BAY.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 19 February 1875 p 6 Article)
continue-pier (rails pic from adod) and guest houses,regulations etc on history board
You are replying to this message from gvines
hi Itellya, two things - are itellya and XXX XXXX one and the same? and do you know the origin of the Scots of Tullamarine? so far I have the following (including some non-Scots)
settler origin arrival farm
John, James and Malcolm Ritchie Aberdeenshire 1852 Aucholzie (later Gowrie Park)
John & David Mansfield Suffolk 1850 Roseleigh
John and Duncan McNab Inverness-shire 1848 Victoria Bank/Oakbank
John Grant Inverness-shire 1850 Seafield
Richard Gibson Ayrshire 1870? Barbiston
Donald Gray Ayrshire 1850 Bellno
Walter Clarke ? 1860 Glenara
David Duncan Inverness-shire 1853 Gowrie Park
Michael Loeman ? 1842 Glenloeman
any assistance geatly appreciated
Good guess, Gary.
(Postscript foreword if there's such a thing. I thought you meant arrival in Australia but I just twigged that you meant in Tullamarine.)
*=Check VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS PAST AND PRESENT by Alexander Sutherland.
1.Ritchie- *.The Ritchies also had Overpostle on Tullamarine Island, across Deep Creek from Aucholzie, for quite some time.
2.Mansfield.* Would you like to borrow my copy of Neil Mansfield's THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY?
Isaac and Ann Mansfield,natives of Suffolk, arrived 7-11-1849 with their sons Sam, Geo, Isaac, David and daughter Mary Ann,their second eldest,John having emigrated with his wife and family in 1848. Their original timber home, Roseleigh, on the south side of Mansfields Rd (wrongly called Victoria Bank)has apparently been recently demolished.In the land boom of the 1880's a speculator,possibly Marks Herman, bought the property from David, who had inherited it from his father Isaac. The speculator went bust so David regained the farm and used the forfeited deposit and part payments to build the duochrome brick Glenalice which,being right near the east-west runway was demolished during airport construction.
3.McNab* (I think the biogs do claim that they settled in 1848.)
The McNab biogs in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS for Angus and his brother mention their father moving away and that was why the first Victoria Bank )second most southern quarter of section 8 was absorbed into Oakbank, and on his return Angus established the second Victoria Bank on the 93 acre portion of 9A Tullamarine, fronting Barbiston Rd, on which (Agnes?) Richie (Malcolm's mother?) had previously been assessed.
The following describes the farm to which Duncan moved and why, as well as showing how the Grants and McNabs co-operated in their breeding efforts from the original Oakbank Annie. (The Tasmanian Ayrshire herd owed its origin to the McNab and later the Buchanan herds.)
MR. DUNCAN M'NAB'S STUD AYRSHIRES. (BY OUR OWN REPORTER.)
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 23 February 1883 p 9 Article
4.Grant* Do the vague Maths from Campbellfield etc. He was a co-grantee of section 8 Tulla with the McNab brothers so I always assumed that they would have settled at the same time.
5.Richard Gibson. It was obviously Richard who gave the farm this name.There was a
Barbiston farm in Ayrshire (from where he definitely came.) Unfortunately his obituary doesn't mention when he settled on Barbiston but Harry Peck might have in MEMOIRS OF A STOCKMAN.
DEATH OF MR. RICHARD GIBSON.
Traralgon Record (Traralgon, Vic. : 1886 - 1932) Tuesday 17 August 1886 p 3 Article
D.Robertson was assessed on Barbiston (NOT NAMED BUT IDENTIFIED BY ITS ACREAGE) in 1868 so Richard probably arrived no earlier than 1870.(P.13, TULLAMARINE BEFORE THE JETPORT.)
There are no trove entries for robertson, barbiston or gibson,barbiston in the 1870's so I'll try barbiston,tullamarine. No matches for that either. Try GIBSON,TULLAMARINE. No luck in the 1870's. Try 1880's.
The earliest result found for Richard Gibson in Tullamarine so far is 1882. What is interesting however, is that Charlotte Robertson, the wife of a David Gibson died near the M.C.G. in the 1870's. Was D.Robertson a relative of Richard's wife and managing Barbiston for him? There also was a 44000 acre estate in Gippsland called Barbiston,which might be why a Gippsland paper wrote his obituary. Every report of Richard Gibson in the 1870's concerned his pure stock-selling company and those of the 1880's concerned additions to and then the dispersal of his Barbiston (Tullamarine) herd.
Unfortunately I didn't even record the memorial details for Donald Gray on my Melway for section 13 Tullamarine although I transposed every one of Fawkner's subdivision lots allocated to the members. In my book I only mentioned some original purchasers. However the co-grantees of 13A, Fawkner and Coghill, did not partition the grant, each receiving 246 acres,until 28-9-1852 (volume U folio 187) so it is more likely that Donald did not settle on Bellno (funny name!) until late 1852 or early 1853.
7. Walter Clark (no e.) Walter Clark was supposed to have bought Alexander Kennedy's portion,including the Inverness Hotel or Coghill's Glencairne in 1856. His place of origin is given below.
Clark, Alister (1864â1949)
by H. E. Rundle
This article was published in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 8, (MUP), 1981
Alister Clark (1864-1949), rosarian and sportsman, was born on 26 January 1864 at Brighton, Victoria, second son of Walter Clark and his second wife Annie, nÃ©e Cooper. Walter Clark, born in Argyllshire, Scotland, in 1803, arrived in Sydney on 23 January 1838 in the Minerva, sponsored by Rev. J. D. Lang. He became a partner with Sir William Macleay in Kerarbury station on the Murrumbidgee River, and made money out of stock during the gold rush. He overlanded stock to Melbourne, took up land at Bulla and built Glenara in 1857.
I presume he'd settled on Gowrie Park by 1848. He was a builder and built Roseneath in Woodland St,Essendon where Big Clarke was nursed during the incapacitated last stage of his life. He bought out his co-grantee,Thompson quite early.
Would you like my EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF TULLAMARINE and EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA which have quite a bit of titles information,maps,photos etc?
9. Michael Loeman.* I think he went to Bulla in 1854. Do the maths re Moreland etc. I'll see what Isaac Batey says.Michael might have settled before he received the grant.
Sunbury South Post-Contact Heritage Assessment
Dec 18, 2014 - Isaac Batey, the son of Martin and Alice Batey of Redstone Hill, was one of .... A number of settlers purchased land in the area south of Sunbury in 1854, including A. and J. Guthrie, F. Harding, M. Loeman, W. Craig and J. O'Grady, and J ...... family - John, Michael Joseph, James, Margaret Anne, and Mary.
RYE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, MORNINGTON PENINSULA,VIC., AUST., MICHAEL CAIN AND THE ARTHURS SEAT HOTEL, DROMANA.
Bryan Ringrose,a gold miner who arrived in Australia in 1853, seems to have returned to England, perhaps to claim an inheritance that assisted his many later mining ventures. He returned aboard the Eagle from Liverpool in (1959 - oops, 1859!)
Prominent in public affairs at Smythesdale near Ballarat, he lost his nose in a mine explosion and disappeared from the scene. He died near Balranald,having lived in that area for 25 years (since about 1888.) So where was he between late 1863 and 1888? Probably at Red Hill for some of that time,on 60 acres about 400 metres south of the west end of McIlroys Rd.
What on earth does that have to do with the Rye Historical Society? Bryan Ringrose was obviously a steerage passenger on The Eagle in 1859 but one of the handful of cabin passengers was J.Burrell. I googled BURRELL,ARTHURS SEAT,THE EAGLE and one of the results was an issue of the society's newsletter.
Download File - Rye Historical Society - Weebly
14 The South Bourke and Mornington Journal 17th October 1877
A QUIET OUTING. The following has been furnished to us by a
gentleman who was one of the number who recently took a trip down the
peninsula between Western Port and Port Phillip Bay; and will, no doubt, be
interesting to many of our readers:
"Being inclined for a trip out, and moreover, being desirous of a glimpse of
the much-vaunted Sorrento, the Bella Vista of Sir C. G. Duffy, a friend and I
started from Dandenong, and in due time reached Frankston, whence, after
refreshing the inner man, not forgetting the cattle, (horses) we proceeded on
our journey by way of Mornington. The Tanti Hotel being the next place of
call, we pulled up and refreshed. After a few minutes' spell we again took the
road for Dromana, our destination for that night, and which we reached after
traversing a most abominable piece of road, over Mount Martha, early in the
evening. After paying due attention to our wearied animals, we found
ourselves snugly ensconced in the Arthur's Seat Hotel, a house beautifully
situated at the base of Arthur's Seat and within a stone's-throw of the sea
beach. Here we spent a very pleasant evening and succeeded in obtaining a
cicerone for our journey of the morrow to Sorrento.
The morning dawning bright and beautiful, we according to arrangement
started in good time along an excellent metal road, our guide pointing out, as
we proceeded, the beautifully situated seat of the late J. B. Burrell, Esq., J.P.,
and the South Channel Lighthouse, with the remarkably neat quarters of the
light keepers. Passing the tidy looking vineyard of Capt. Adams, we
suddenly came to the end of the metalled road and delved into pure sand at a
place which we were told was called the 'Rosebud' fishing village,
consisting, as most fishing villages do, of a number of straggling cottages
and huts, the fleet of boats, with their sails glistening under the sun in the
distance, accounting for the seeming want of life on shore. Passing this
village, our guide, finding that the tide was out, soon showed us a way on the
beach, along which we had a splendid spin for about six miles, which
brought us to Tootgarook, the well known station of James Purves, Esq. Here
we halted for a while, and proceeded thence to Rye, the next township, the
inhabitants of which are principally engaged in the lime trade.
Being directed by our companion to the house of Patrick Sullivan, we found
everything neat and snug, and determined to remain for the night. In the said
P. Sullivan we found an intelligent veteran of some standing, whom we
unanimously agreed must be a relative of the now celebrated Sulieman
Pasha, greatly to the amusement of his four attractive daughters. After a
stroll in the vicinity, our sharpened appetites, and the sun's chronological
indications warned us that it was tea time, we returned to the Pasha's and
enjoyed ourselves heartily until a late hour, when, finding the house was
overcrowded with visitors, two of us quietly took two opossum rugs from
the trap, and wrapping ourselves therein, had a sound and undisturbed
snooze until daylight under a clump of umbrageous tea- trees. After
witnessing one or two pugilistic encounters between some of the old
identities, we breakfasted, and putting the horses to again, took the bench
for Sorrento, where we arrived after passing the late Michael O'Grady's and
Dr. Blair's residences. Here we found three hotels, two very large ones, but
around those two reigned solemn silence, not a soul being visible; so our
guide suggested, its two of us at least patronised colonial industry in the
shape of beer, we had better go to the smaller house, where the greatest
traffic was in that particular commodity. So, accordingly, we paid a visit to
Mr. J. Clark, whose brew we found excellent.
After watering the horses, we again mounted, our guide telling us that he
would take us to Sands' End, meaning Portsea, and he did take us there,
after a slight detour from the proper road. Portsea we considered a prettier
place than Sorrento, the former having much less of the loose drifting sand
which prevails at the latter. Making a substantial dinner at Farnsworth's, in
very capacious and well-built hotel, with a fine lofty tower, we again took
our seats and retraced our way to Dromana, which we reached in the
evening, without anything wonderful happening. "Next morning, being in
no great hurry to start, we had a better view of Dromana, which is truly a
beautiful place, situated between Mount Martha and Arthur's Seat, the latter
forming a bold and majestic background to the township.
From the trigonometrical survey tower on Arthur's Seat, which has been
utilised by the inhabitants constructing a good stair, railings, &c., the most
magnificent panoramic view that can well be conceived is to be obtained,
having the whole stretch of Port Phillip and Western Port Bays, the outline
of the southern coast, the Dandenong Range and the Australian Alps in
Gippsland towering in all their grandeur in the distance, full in view. The
Dromana Hotel, kept by Mr. R. Watkin, is a large and handsome building, capable
of accommodating a large number of visitors, and is situated near the jetty. etc.
The newsletter also had an item about Nell Arnold, who like John G. Mann of (Mt Eliza), Mr Rogers (son of Dromana teacher), Colin McLear (Dromana), Vin Burnham and Peter Wilson(Burnham descendant who prompted me to achieve a heritage overlay for the Boyd Cottage at 62 Rosebud Pde), Rosalind Peatey, Isabel Moresby (Rosebud), Patricia Appleford (Rye), Jennifer Nixon and Elizabeth McMeikan,(both Skelton descendants) and Charles Hollinshed (Sorrento), Sheila Skidmore and Petronella Wilson (Red Hill),and L.Wilding (Flinders) did much to record the history of the Southern Peninsula. With many scanned documents,there is also a lengthy article about Michael Cain, e.g.
At Cairns house not long ago
A young man came to stay.
The sort we ladies like to strike
His name was Dan O Shea.
When first he threw eyes me
I gammoned to be blue.
But now I have got so
used to him
I will gladly give him to you.
Two of Michaelâs daughters,
Mary Agnes and Ethel married
Cairns sons. Was this poem
written be by one of them?
Rye Historical Society is fortunate to have dedicated researchers such as Linda Berndt (a Jennings descendant) and Phil Cain. The society was apparently formed to prevent the demolition of the old school building (now its museum)in the Rye Primary School grounds, which would have resulted from relocation of the school. Please visit the museum and soak up some of the history presented by the displays to reward the volunteers who open it to the public and devote countless hours to catalogue the material collected. Details of opening times will be posted on the society's website.
Because local history is LOCAL, misunderstandings often occur and a lot of background information about people is never explored. John Cain, correspondent of the Board of Advice (which acted for MANY schools) requested improvements to the Dromana school, and Colin McLear wrote on page 131 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA:
After much delay and complaints by Correspondent John Cain of Kangerong (and later of Boneo and Portsea) the Department etc.
If John Cain had been a resident of Kangerong in the late 1870's,he would have been assessed in the Central Riding in 1879 between John (Vans Agnew) Bruce,1000 acres Kangerong (Melway 150 E10 to 151 K 12)and Charles Clein (Cleine)unless Charles Cleine had just succeeded John Cain on what was probably a McIlroy grant, most unlikely. May Agnes Cain, who married Hill Harry Cairns of Fingal, was born in Adelaide while Michael Cain was working there. Her children were born at Grandma Neville's place in South Melbourne and stayed there until they were 10 days old when they returned to Dromana by steamer and were driven home to Maroolaba by Hill Harry.*; Michael had married a Neville girl and his brother, Joseph, had married a Murray girl,which accounts for the naming of two streets on Owen Cain's grant "Tyrone" between Rye and Canterbury Jetty Rd.
(*SOURCE. Their son, the Boneo Bradman, as in my journal TALKING HISTORY WITH RAY CAIRNS, the transcript of an interview conducted ten days after the late Ray Cairns made his last century.)
Robert Rowley Snr. was a pioneer (with Henry Cadby Wells, the later Frankston pioneer) of Sorrento in 1841 and Westernport in 1849 (Source: The Wells Story); Dromana, working for Peter Pidoto after marrying in Longford, Tasmania (source: Ron Doig) in 1861; and Arthurs Seat's summit at an advanced age (sources:Wannaeue parish map, LIME LAND LEISURE), as well as his documented involvement at Rye. The Rowleys provided much early history via interviews conducted by local papers. Robert Snr. was happy to chat about the old days and one of his tales (about NO GOOD DAMPER), told to James Little Brown, is pasted into my journal, SOME HISTORY OF DANDENONG.
I intend to write some details about some of the people and places mentioned above.
CAIN, ROWLEY,CAIRNS, BROWN, WATKIN, SCURFIELD, BURRELLN,RINGROSE, DUFFY, ADAMS,[SULLIVAN/ GRACE/ GRACEFIELD O'GRADY,BLAIR, CLARK, FARNSWORTH (NEPEAN HOTEL,FORD), NEVILLE, MURRAY, WELLS,DUFFYAND DROMANA(1862)HOTELS. TANTI HOTEL/TANTINE SHEEP STATION/ABORIGINE?
In order of appearance above.
In Ireland,tenant farmers were being turfed off their farms and their homes were being destroyed by landlords who wanted to graze sheep in order to take advantage of the increased demand for wool created by the industrial revolution*. Charles Duffy became the champion of the struggle to obtain security of tenure for tenants. On the way to Australia,he was enchanted by Sorrento in Italy, and seeing its resemblance to the AREA where, after being welcomed as a hero,he received many grants, he called it Sorrento. No township had been planned for the area, but when a dispute arose between Duffy and lime merchant, William Allison Blair of Essendon (Netheby or Netherlea? Definitely not Ngarveno)and later near the Medway golf course at Braybrook, Sidney Smith Crispo who had established (unsuccessfully)his own village of Manners-Sutton (named after the Governor, who during his tenure became Viscount Canterbury), suggested to his superior, James? Grant, that a village be created on the disputed land.The village sold like hot cakes and disappointed buyers turned to Canterbury where Crispo had built the first of two jetties. (Detail of the first, and the second jetty built for limeburners, is in another issue of the newsletter.)
[* Spinning and weaving had previously been a cottage industry and revenge was sought against the huge mills by such as James Sandle Ford who was convicted of machine breaking. He settled at the heads near the Sullivans, marrying one of Dennis and Honorah's daughters. The Sullivans had to move in 1852 when the quarantine station was established but James remained, supplying food to the quarantine station, and called the area Portsea. He and Peter Purves of Tootgarook organized a dodgy petition in 1859 to prevent fencing off of the police paddock,west of Tyrone, where they had been grazing their numerous bullocks. (See Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD or Jenny Nixon's FAMILY,CONNECTIONS, SORRENTO AND PORTSEA.) James Ford received grants east of Boneo Rd and with the addition of land between today's Eastbourne Rd and a southern boundary indicated by Besgrove St, the 660 acre Wannaeue Station was created.In about 1876, his son,Cr William Ford was living there according to a notice he wrote as the electoral officer. He had a cook (Salmon)who had taken part in a famous naval battle against America in 1812.Years later,in 1902, when one of the Cairns family wrote to the shire he called Eastbourne Rd Ford's Lane. James Ford Jnr. was assessed on 260 acres at Eaton Hill which was later granted to Professor Hearn of Heronswood at Dromana. Edward was apparently a blacksmith at Boneo.)
TANTI HOTEL/TANTINE SHEEP STATION/ABORIGINE?
In the local history room at Rosebud is a book written by a fictitious aboriginal boy, supposedly named Tanti. The name, pronounced with a long i at the end, probably came from the TANTINE SHEEP STATION, the name of which may or may not have been a corruption of a Boon-wurrung word. The earliest mention of the hotel discovered on trove under this name appeared in 1854 but,if I remember correctly,a history board outside the entrance of the Mornington museum (Old Post office) gives the year of its establishment as 1852.(See my journal about the hotel.)
ARTHUR'S SEAT HOTEL/ Dromana Hotel (1862).
TO THE COUPLE WHICH VISITED THE DROMANA MUSEUM TODAY (1-2-2015)WITH A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE ARTHURS SEAT HOTEL- SEE COMMENT 2 under the journal.
William Dixon Scurfield, an early purchaser of land in Broadmeadows Township (Westmeadows)was the owner of this hotel which was established in 1857, four years before Dromana Township (west of McCulloch St to the never- made Burrell St which was intended to link the Esplanade and Latrobe St) was proclaimed*. There were plenty of customers,however because Arthurs Seat was alive with the sound of the saw and the axe. Other men were engaged in carting the timber to the bay and loading it.
(*The township had been in the pipeline for some time and was probably responsible for the McCraes of "Arthur's Seat" relinquishing their run, to be replaced by the Burrell's.)
Loading the timber was a real trial and Robert Caldwell of Dromana Hill (later the Fairy Vineyard, now the Hillcrest quarry and residential area with streets named after counties and Spencer Jackson)and other prominent men were agitating for a pier but, without local government which would allow rates to be loaded, their request was refused* despite the population (due to Jamieson's Special Survey) being greater than that of Snapper Point (later Schnapper Point,then Mornington) which did get a pier.
*Only one of many articles and not the first, where officials had come to Dromana.
Messrs. Caldwell and Lyall, M.L.A.'s, waited
upon Mr. Francis, for the purpose of asking
him to cause to be placed on the Estimates the
sum of Â£2,000, for the construction of a jetty at
Mr. FRANCIS, in reply, said that as there was
no municipality at Dromana, the people of the
district should endeavour to subscribe a sum of
money, and then go to the Government to get it
supplemented. He thought the best plan for the
deputation to adopt would be to postpone the
application, as at present it was the intention of
the Government to stop many of the public
works, there not being sufficient money to carry
The deputation then withdrew.(P.5, Argus, 7-12-1859.)
Oddly, an early licensee of Scurfield's Hotel was Richard Watkin*,who established the Dromana Hotel IN 1862. After that William and his wife ran the hotel. It is likely that the name changed to the Arthur's Seat Hotel soon after steamers starting bringing tourists;I'd have to consult my rates transcriptions to determine the original year and this is off the top of the head stuff.It was certainly after 1869.
* The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 27 August 1858 p 8 Advertising
... Â»Bt._ SCURFIELD HOTEL, Arthur's Seat, kept by Richard Watkin. Abundance of game. Horses and dogs always .
CRIMINAL CHARGE AGAINST THE REV. PATRICK NIALL.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 13 September 1869 p 6 Article
By 1874 George Assender was assessed on the hotel and continued there until at least 1883,when he was leasing the hotel from Laurence and Co. Some time after that a Mr Wainwright (whose name is written elsewhere)ran the hotel until he died and his widow, Catherine took over . The very next year (1887?) the licensee was Mrs Catherine Allison and William Allison was assessed on the hotel.Yep, blacksmith, William Allison, had married widow Wainwright!
By 1894, Lawrence Murphy, formerly a coach proprietor based in Mornington, had taken over the Arthur's Seat Hotel. He was largely instrumental in getting Dromana a Catholic Church. He later took over the Dromana Hotel and ridiculously in 1897-8 he was assessed on both the Arthurs Seat Hotel(leased from Adams& Co.) and the Dromana Hotel (leased from Matthew Elliot, a partner of the prominent Melbourne Coach-building firm, Stevenson and Elliot, who also owned Robert Caldwell's old "Dromana Hill",renamed Fairy Vineyard.) When I read about the fire, I thought the Godly Lawrence Murphy was an arsonist! Anyone with half a brain would ponder why a publican would want to compete with himself-unless there was some devious plan! But Lawrence no longer had the Arthur's Seat and the fire did not sweep down the slope as Spencer Jackson claimed in his advertorial history of 1927 BEAUTIFUL DROMANA,although he had the year spot on; it started within the hotel. If I remember correctly, the licensee had the same name as Snoopy's mate and the cartoon strip.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Thursday 28 April 1898 p 3 Article
... . The old-established Arthur's Seat Hotel, containing about 20 rooms, was demolished by fire on Sunday ... morning. The licensee, Mr Charles Brown, was aroused from his slumbers by the screeching of a parrot caged ... 798 words
I forgot to mention that the hotel was situated between Levien and Foote St near the foreshore where William Dixon Scurfield received crown grants and his wife's name was Catherine.
ANTHONY'S NOSE (THE ROCKS.)
Strangely, no mention was made of this. Ned Williams had carved the first road around it so it no longer was necessary to travel on the beach sand, which required a wait for the tide to go out.
J.B.BURRELL.(Edward and Mary Williams.
Visit the McCrae Cottage for all the information you could require about the Burrells.
It was at the Burrell house that Edward Williams, arriving in a survey ship in 1855, met a servant named Mary Campbell who became his wife. After earning renown from the McLears and others as a harvester "who could scythe an acre of crop per day,quite a feat in the days of hand harvesting*", Edward, known as Ned,bought his grants straddling Browns Rd near Truemans Rd and opened a butchers shop in Sorrento. By 1899, Ned had taken over his mate, Sydney Smith Crispo's "Eastbourne" and he and Mary nursed the eccentric pioneer in his dying days as he spoke of the property becoming Australia's Capital, Federanium. Mary had come out with Robert Cairns and his wife in 1852.
1. Edward Williams built a new house on Eastbourne which is now 17 William Crescent. Who was the clown that decided to leave the s off Williams?
2. The Williams biography/genealogy in LIME LAND LEISURE is hidden in the WHITE entry. Check it out.
There were two lighthouses, coordinated to guide shipping, one at Dromana West (McCrae),referred to in the article as the South Channel Lighthouse and the South Channel Pile Lighthouse which was actually in the channel.The Light Keepers, (the correct occupation name according to Queenscliff's barefoot fisherman, Lew Ferrier, son of William,the hero of the La Bella wreck at Warrnambool in 1905, who tended both lights after starting in the service at Cape Schanck shortly after his heroic deed) rotated between each lighthouse with one week offshore and three onshore according to Isabel Moresby. The pile lighthouse was relocated out of the channel and can be clearly seen from the beach at Rye. The ship paintings done inside it by William John Ferrier are now displayed at the Polly Woodside in Melbourne.
Ned Williams and Bob White moved the original timber onshore lighthouse,replaced by the present structure, to the summit of Arthur's Seat where it served until about 1934 as a lookout tower.
CAPTAIN ADAMS,ISAAC WHITE, AND CLIMBING TELEGRAPH POLES.
One of the biggest mysteries in peninsula history is when exactly Captain Henry Everest Adams put down roots in Rosebud. The Dromana Pioneer pathway gives it as 1845, but a Dromana Historical Society report to the shire regarding the naming of a reserve gave it as 1841 (or maybe 1839.)
It was the lady hairdresser next to Henderson Real Estate who allowed my Peninsula research to move beyond parish maps, rate records and what was already written. She showed me a map of early Rosebud drawn by an oldtimer whose identity has never been confirmed but I suspect it was Rosalind Peatey (PINE TREES AND BOXTHORNS) or Isabel Moresby (ROSEBUD FLOWER OF THE PENINSULA.) She eventually remembered that the man who had given it to her was Harvey Marshall, a descendant of Captain Adams.
A rumour that the captain was the illegitimate son of Lord Vivian was replaced by the fact that the captain's ship-owning father had carried supplies to the aristocrat during a military campaign. Family folklore had it that the captain,having received a 750 acre grant to reward a service,beached his boat near the present Wattle Place (which became known to all oldtimers as Adams' Corner), and used its timbers to construct a cottage (near the rear of the present McCrae car wash.)
The captain did not receive a grant or his name would be recorded on a large slab of the Wannaeue parish map but it could have been a lease, although no record has been found of one. The lease might have instead been for 75 acres,part of section 20 Wannaeue between The Avenue (Adams Creek) and Parkmore Rd.Section 20 was not open for selection, was alienated as Wannaeue Village in about 1877 and the Adams family acquired a large slab of it,perhaps as a pre-emptive right. Strangely, the Captain entered into an indenture with Isaac White regarding a property in the parish of South Melbourne, in which Isaac expressed affection for the captain's wife. Isaac was the grantee of the 191 acre Crown allotment 19 which extended west to Adams Avenue and on which the Captain was assessed in 1864.
The captain and his son,Robert Henry, enlarged or replaced the cottage to establish a guest house, in which a frequent guest was the governor,Lord Hopetoun. The Gov., after whom the accommodation was named Hopetoun House, had a yacht if I remember correctly and I don't think he suffered from sea sickness or that he or the other guests were offered those biscuits you put cheese on. In fact the Adams women thought that the service offered was so UNSAVORY that they renamed the guest house as Merlyn Lodge.
But back to the era when this tour was reported. In 1873 Robert married Miss Mary Jane Hopcraft a "gentlewoman" from 159 F9 and she was so offended by Henry's "old salt" ways that she refused to live with him so Robert applied to lease crown land almost next to her father's farm. The captain infuriated her when he invited his grandchildren to sip the produce of his Vivian Vineyard of which you'll read more later.The captain moved to South Melbourne to live wit friends shortly after he gave Rosebud fisherman, Antonio Bosina, a loan of 50 pounds on 3-5-1880 with the latter's boat,Lilly as security, with Robert and Mary Jane moving back to Adams' Corner. (ADAMS CORNER. THE ADAMS FAMILY:PENINSULA PIONEERS, RFG, NOVEMBER, 2010.)
Dromana had at first had a Union Church, (built in 1879 by Henry William Ault who owned the 140 acre property south of Blakeley's at Red Hill and erected at least one public building there too), in which each protestant denomination held its services. In 1891, this church was sold because of disagreements between the various congregations. The Anglicans moved quickly to erect their own church . "George Noree* of Sorrento's tender was accepted for a slate-roofed limestone building to cost 531 pounds 1 shilling and fourpence." Ten thousand bricks had previously been donated by Robert Adams of McCrae and would have kept down costs; in those days every penny counted, as you can see with the quote. (Pages 113-120, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
(*George Morse, who built many of Sorrento's mansions and public buildings and Edward Williams' Eastbourne, now 17 William Crescent, Rosebud West; possibly also David Cairns' Eleanora in the Rosebud Hospital grounds, but as I've said,this is off the top of my head and I won't be checking here.)
The captain received grants for land in the parish of Nepean and 36 acres in the suburban area of the township of Dromana: 57 acres at 157 B11 south east of Diamond Bay Rd and 36 acres at 159E-F11. Robert Rowley,the Sorrento, Dromana, Rye pioneer would have known the old salt well and like most of the Rye men probably had practised well in the two early Rye sports of drinking and fighting (sometimes combined with horse racing at the turntable? or the beach.)Strong drink did not pose a problem to Robert until he tried the captain's wine. He said that after two glasses you'd be climbing telegraph poles.
ROSEBUD FISHING VILLAGE.
1879 ratepayers in ratebook (alphabetical) order: Antonio Bosina, Henry Bucher, William Gomm, William Devine, William Jamieson,John Jones, Antonio Latros,Andrew Nicholas, Joseph Silver (Silva)Frederick Vean (Vine).
I probably missed a few names, such as that of Fort(i) Lacco, in the transcription because of my lack of background knowledge at the time and the rate collector describing the above fishermen's properties as 1 lot and building,Wannaeue (rather than "Rosebud".)
The fishing village, occupying the same foreshore land as it does today, was alienated in 1872. One Rosebud fisherman that missed the chance to buy the block on which his hut was located was Patrick Wee Wee, whose grave in the Rye Cemetery is now indicated on a beautiful gravestone organised by- wait for it- DAH DUM the Rye Historical Society. He was conveying four quarrymen, who also perished, to the Quarantine Station at the Heads.
FATAL ACCIDENT IN THE BAY. SUPPOSED LOSS OF FIVE LIVES.
Williamstown Chronicle (Vic. : 1856 - 1954) Saturday 1 January 1870 p 3 Article
This had a variety of names before Peter Purves settled there. As pointed out in my Dromana Heritage Walk journal, George Smith's run,known as Wooloowoolboolook, may have been Tootgarook or part of it.
As my journal about the Purves brothers points out, it was James Purves' brother, Peter (the mason), who named the run Tootgarook and operated it until his death in 1860. Peter's architect brother was occupied with business (such as collecting the 700 pounds for which he had insured the Rosebud) and probably only visited his stations at Chinton (near Kilmore) and Tootgarook for a bit of recreation and to see how his horses were going. It was Peter who, with James Ford, organised the dodgy petition to prevent fencing off of the police paddock west of White Cliff and brother, James, didn't even sign it.
The Tootgarook pre-emptive right is shown on the Wannaeue parish map,available online. By then called Tootgarook Station, that is what the tourists of 1877 were talking about.
Joseph Henry Dunne, Toogarook Inn, Western Port,
Refused. (p.5,Argus, 22-3-1854.)
The Tootgarook hotel, at which Patrick Wee Wee met the quarrymen, was the tap room built on the station by James Trueman, that later served as a residence for the Bright family after which a street on the P.R. is named. Frank Bright was the Captain of the Tootgarook Rural Fire Brigade when it formed,if I remember correctly. Linda Bernt, that stalwart of the R.H.S., told me that the old tap room was situated in Leonard St, and to her disgust was demolished recently; another bit of history gone!
The pre-emptive right did not extend to Truemans Rd ,the Stenniken and Trueman grants being in between. The Stenniken grant was near the foreshore and included Burdett St (recalling the second given name of Godfrey Wilson who married Maria Stenniken and his mother Thamer's Wilson's maiden name) and Morris St houses. This was advertised for sale by Vale (no rhyme intended) in about 1920 and the building on the east corner of Carmichael St soon became a landmark. It was known as Birkdale House (Ron Doig.)
James Trueman's grants were divided longitudinally with each son getting half. Eventually the west half was acquired by hairdresser,Raymond Guest, who tended the hair of Panda, Graham Kennedy's barrel girl on In Melbourne Tonight. The half fronting Truemans Rd came into the possession of poultry farmer, Harry Doig, who on a visit from the Mallee to the Rowley farm (between Guest St and the freeway reserve) fell for Miss Rowley whom he later married.
Remember Birkdale House mentioned earlier? The Whittaker family started a tourist bus service to the peninsula. Despite, trove's dodgy digitisation, I think you'll be able to work out what they were calling Tootgarook.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 4 November 1938 p 16 Advertising
... ROMANA. Rosebud, Birkdale, Rye leave Whlght's, 110 Flinders st.,
The western half of James Trueman's grants was subdivided first by Alma and Ray Guest as the Almaray Estate with streets named after members of their family. Harry Doig subdivided his half later and it made sense to continue the Almaray streets to Truemans Rd, hence the many Guest street names on Alf's Oceanaires Estate, with only Doig Avenue and (I think) Ronald St, recalling the Doig family. Having married into the Rowley family,it would be inevitable that Harry came to love the history of the area and it was he who fought tooth and nail for the Shire of Flinders to call the area by its historic name, Tootgarook.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 15 March 1951 p 4 Article Illustrated
... the Almaray Estates at Tootagarook - just between Rosebud and Rye.
Many businesses are now pretending to have information from my journals on their websites to attract browsers. But I don't just write journals and have ensured that some wikipedia pages for localities have a bit more information than just when the post office opened. As I said before, I'm virtually writing this off the top of my head, so if you want more detailed information about Tootgarook, read this advertisement.
Suburb Description for Tootgarook - Apartments Australia ...
Tootgarook is located approximately 81 km from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. ... Harry's land was subdivided as the OCEANAIRES ESTATE in the mid 1950's.
SULLIVAN/ GRACE/ GRACEFIELD.
On 9-3-1857, William Grace was granted crown allotment 3, section 3, Kangerong, consisting of 249.5 acres roughly but always described as 250 acres. It was between the wedge-shaped town common and Caldwell Rd; east across the town common was Robert Caldwell's Dromana Hill. William called his property Gracefield for obvious reasons. Gracefield Avenue (Melway 159 H8) recalls the farm's name. After planting grapevines and effecting other improvements as described below, he sold his farm (which was later occupied by Red Hill pioneer,James McKeown, in about 1885 when James sold his grants there to the Sheehans), and moved to Rye,reportedly living in a house built by Berry, a very early limeburner.
FOR PRIVATE SALE,
VALUABLE FREEHOLD FARM,
To Capitalists, VIgnorons, Agriculturists, and Others.
GEMMELL, TUCKETT, and Co. have received Instructions from Mr. R. Kerr, as agent for the proprietor, to OFFER for PRIVATE SALE, at their rooms, 40 Collins street west,
All that valuable farm, Gracefield, Dromana, comprising 250 acres of superior land, on the north slope of Arthur's Seat Hill, well fenced, grassed, and abundantly watered, with six roomed brick house, slate roof,outbuildings, &c, with two roomed cottage, large cellar, &c. Seven acres planted with 1000 trees of the best descriptions of fruit ; eight to nine acres of the choicest vines in full bearing.The property is for positive sale, and any bona fide buyer will be liberally dealt with.
Full particulars of the auctioneers, or of Mr. R.Kerr, Collins-street west. (P.2, Argus, 23-2-1871.)
William was granted crown allotment 6, section 3 in the township of Rye. With a 20 metre frontage to The Esplanade and Nelson St commencing 60 metres from Dundas St, it would today contain part of the Rye Hotel. I bet you! On this block and perhaps adjoining ones, Patrick Sullivan built the Gracefield Hotel. What a coincidence that his hotel had the same name as that Dromana farm! No, not really because he married a daughter of William Grace. It's probably not coincidence that Rye's much-loved teacher, Miss Sullivan, who died after contracting Spanish Flu from soldiers returning from W.W.1, was named Grace; a change room on the foreshore for school children was dedicated to her memory.(Details are from my memory of "Rye Primary School 1667" so Linda, if I've got any details re Grace wrong please let me know. (I was going to say that Grace was nursing the soldiers but I wasn't 100% sure.)
At about the same time that Lou Carrigg was transforming the Beautiful Dromana Hotel into the Art Deco pub we see today, Mrs Hunt demolished the Gracefield and built the Art Deco Rye Hotel. Ever looked at the foundation stone?
The first "Rye Hotel", built by Cottier and Campbell was between Lyon and Napier St and according to Lime Land Leisure a licence held for a Rye Hotel at Dromana in 1859 was transferred to the new hotel in the area known as Tootgarook. William Cottier, early tenant on Jamieson's Special Survey, grantee of what became Walter Gibson's "Glenholm" and signatory of the petition* of 9-3-1861 (with John Campbell, who built the Rye pier,Robert Rowley and many others,recommending Robert Quinan as the teacher for Dromana Common School)is credited by some as giving Rye its name.(*P.132, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
Tootgarook had another early pub,the tap room at Tootgarook Station,said to have been built by James Trueman, where the four doomed quarrymen engaged the doomed Patrick Wee Wee, a Maori fisherman based near the Rosebudto take them to the Quarantine Station.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 31 December 1869 p 5 Article.
VILLA MARIA BECAME BLAIRGOWRIE.
Michael O'Grady was granted crown allotment 55B near Moonah Avenue and 54B, 51A and 51B on the north side of Melbourne Rd. He obviously bought R.Byrne's c/a 52 on which he built Villa Maria. No great intelligence is necessary to realise that O'Grady was an Irish Catholic and that his name for the house would not be to the liking of Dr John Blair, (See my journal THE BLAIRS OF ESSENDON AND DR JOHN BLAIR.)
It is important in the telling of this story to state that the western boundary of the Township of Rye was from the south end of French Rd to Pt Nepean Rd between White Cliffs and Cain Rds. West from that line was Owen Cain's "Tyrone" consisting of crown allotments 7-12 of the parish of Nepean,bounded by Melbourne Rd, Canterbury Jetty Rd and Pt Nepean Rd. The advertisement for the sale of the Cain estate was the earliest use of Blairgowrie as a locality name that I have found on trove. When the Blairgowrie estate was sold,it was described as being at SORRENTO.(P.2,Argus, 31-3-1923.) A few days earlier a par in a local paper mentioned the connection between O'Grady and "Blairgowrie", which was once again described as being in Sorrento.
Michael O'Grady's Old Home
The famous Blairgowrie Estate at Sorrento is to be offered for sale shortly. The beautiful Blairgowrie homestead was built for the Hon. Michael O'Grady, M.P., one of the early Postmaster-Generals of the
State.(P.1,Frankston and Somerville Standard,28-3-1923.)
For further detail about Blairgowrie (the suburb), see Jack Ritchie's fantastic history:
Blairgowrie: Blairgowire History (Jack Ritchie)
*LUGGER JACK CLARK'S MORNINGTON HOTEL. CLARK'S COTTAGE (WELLS) DROMANA TOWNSHIP-WHY?
Brevity is now the name of the game for these last three entries marked with asterisks as I have the Back To, and heritage walk journals, to complete so I can start the Vin Jervis journal before I forget about it.
Two Skelton descendants, Elizabeth and Jennifer, have written books called,respectively,THOSE COURAGEOUS HARDY WOMEN and family, connections,Sorrento and Portsea. One of the Skelton girls married Jack Clark, who sailed limecraft and then established the Mornington Hotel at Sorrento. The seemingly strange name for the hotel is not so strange because the peninsula is part of the county of Mornington; the Mornington Standard was so named for the same reason. Jennifer Nixon states, having dismissed other theories, that Clark's Cottage,demolished after the hotel became the Koonya, was built by a Mr Wells in about 1850. That was when Henry Cadby Wells was at Sorrento for the second time,in partnership with Robert Rowley for the second time, crayfishing in Henry's boat. As Henry's child was born at the site of the Koonya in 1841, when he and Robert were lime burning,the cottage may have been built between 1841 and 1843 (a depression in the latter most likely ending their first venture.)
At first Lugger Jack operated his pub in part of the cottage, but being close to the pier,he would have attracted most of the tourists, whose holiday was a day trip on the steamers, while the well-heeled patronised the exclusive 'otels up the hill where they would stay for the lengthy "season". A dedicated pub was soon needed to meet the demand. Jack became a councillor in the Shire of Flinders of Kangerong. See my journal; THESHIRE OF FLINDERS.
*FARNSWORTH (FORD)-NEPEAN HOTEL.
John Farnsworth, if I remember correctly,came to the area to build the Nepean Hotel for James Sandle Ford, and married his daughter. See Jenny Nixon's book for extensive detail. The Farnsworth on the former quarantine/army land near the heads is named after him.The Nepean was across the road from the Portsea Hotel,which was run by the Watsons and Cains for many years.
*TRIG.TOWER OR ORIGINAL LIGHTHOUSE ON ARTHURS SEAT IN 1877?
In A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, Colin McLear wrote (P.76)that the wooden lighthouse at McCrae was replaced in 1874 and taken to the summit. It pays to check. The present lighthouse was built in 1874 but was not erected until 1883 so the 1877 tourists were looking at the trig tower. The first article below has a photo of the original lighthouse on the summit; it would not have been dismantled and moved until the steel one was operating. Perhaps Colin McLear meant 1884 instead of 1874.
Originally, the first trig station was built on this site in 1853. This was replaced at some time by the Eastern Shore Light. The Eastern Shore Light was a timber lookout originally built at McCrae, at the base of Arthur's Seat in 1854. It was considered an integral part of the Port Phililp Bay navigation system before being replaced and moved to Arthur's Seat.
(Arthurs Seat Tower - Discover Mornington Peninsula
The original McCrae Lighthouse was a timber structure built in 1854 and following years of service was dismantled in sections and transported by bullock wagon to the top of nearby Arthurs Seat to be used as a lookout.
The present day lighthouse, built in England in 1874 by Chance Brothers & Co of Birmingham, was transported to Australia by sea and erected on this site in 1883.
(McCrae Lighthouse (McCrae) - Vic
Extract from email aimed at finding a photo of the Arthurs Seat Hotel:
P.S. Please send a memo including this advertisement to Peter and anybody else likely to be involved with a reprint of any books (including Peter's ART DECO one) that perpetuate the myth that the Dromana Hotel was built in 1857.
DROMANA HOTEL, Established 1862 -First-class
accommodation and sea bathing. Coach from
Melbourne dally. Steamer Williams four times a
week. The scenery around Dromana is unrivalled in
the colony. Terms moderate Horses and vehicles at
very low rates. R.Watkin, Proprietor.
(P.8, Argus, 6-1-1880.)
NOSELESS BRYAN RINGROSE, AUSTRALIA, who "emigrated from Newark, Nottinghamshire, probably around 1853".
EMAIL TO WOADY YALOAK HISTORICAL SOCIETY.( [email protected]). A big thank you to janilye!
A couple of years ago Margaret Roberts, your research officer, replied to my email about Bryan Ringrose. His obituary was found by my family tree circles mate, janilye, who said that it proved that Bryan Ringrose of Smythesdale and Bryan Ringrose of Red Hill, near Dromana, were not one and the same.
However the 1865 reference to Mrs Ringrose of Red Hill, which initially seemed to disprove the connection, and rate records which correlate nicely with the time of Bryan's arrival in N.S.W., are discussed under the obituary, which shows the Ballarat/Wicania connection. Janilye has since added further detail.
Regards, XXX XXXX, Rosebud.
POSTSCRIPT. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT MRS RINGROSE, WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN BRYAN'S MOTHER RATHER THAN HIS WIFE, DIED CIRCA 1870 BECAUSE FROM ABOUT THIS TIME, BRYAN WAS ASSESSED ONLY AS THE OWNER, NOT THE OCCUPANT, OF THE RED HILL PROPERTY.
Death of Mr. Bryan Ringrose
Another old colonist in the person of
Mr. Bryan Ringrose passed away at
the Tibo0burra Hospital at 9 a.m on the
30th. inst. aged 7? years. Mr. Ringrose
arrived in Victoria in the stirring times
of the early 50's and was identified with
the mining interest at Ballarat, but sub-
sequently came to the western part of
this state and has resided in the Wilcan
nia and Milparinka districts for the last
25 years. Mr. Ringrose was a Justice of
the Peace and took a keen interest in
all that concerned the welfare of his
adopted country. In Politics he was
liberal to the point of prudence, but an
uncompromising opponent of class legis-
lation and the socialist spirit that per
vades the political atmosphere of the
day, but neverless his sympathies
were strongly in favor of [?ac?]ting the
condition of the toiler. He was a man of
sound judgement, of [??] demeanour,
courageous, of social habits, a staunch
friend and typical of the middle class
Englishman to which he belonged. So
far as is known, Mr. Ringrose was never married. (P.2, Western Grazier, 30-12-1903.)
by itellya on 2015-01-24 21:41:30
NOSELESS BRYAN RINGROSE, CROWN ALLOTMENT 18B,KANGERONG,(MELWAY 90 K1).
This comment was prompted by a search of my Red Hill dictionary history to see if there was a DITTERICH entry. There wasn't and there wasn't anything about the family under SHAND. Then I spotted the RINGROSE entry and thought I should explain why I called Bryan "noseless".
The Kangerong parish map can be accessed online by googling KANGERONG, COUNTY OF BOURKE. Crown allotment 18B, consisting of 59 acres 3 roods 15 acres, was granted to B.Ringrose but the date of issue is not given on the map. The block was south of Four Winds(18A,granted to Henry Dunn, at the corner of White Hill and McIlroys Rds) of almost the same size and to the east a much later grant (possibly closer or soldier settlement)of 22 acres obtained by S.P.Calder, who was possibly the architect who designed the 1928 Shire hall in Dromana and son of the first C.R.B. Chairman, William Calder, who was President of the Red Hill Show committee until his death; a show report stated that William's "Four Winds" could be seen from the showgrounds.
Crown allotment 18B had a 2243 link (451.219824 metre) frontage to the east side of the road from Moat's corner between a point opposite the Tumbywood Rd corner and 1879 links (377.994672 metres)south of McIlroys Rd and a point opposite the present Sheehans Rd corner. My practically illegible paper map shows that about half of the property later became two adjoining closer or soldier settlement blocks, one fronting White Hill Rd and neither adjoining Four Winds.
(Reference to Sam Loxton deleted.)
BACK TO NOSELESS BRYAN RINGROSE. (EXTRACT FROM RED HILL DICTIONARY HISTORY JOURNAL.)
RINGROSE 1865. The illegible writing in the 1865 assessments led to me transcribing this name as Ringrove. The pioneer had 60 acres. The name of Mrs Ringrose appeared in George McLear's account book in 1865.
The Ringrose family evidently settled on its 60 acre grant (whose location is described in the entry for Arthur E.HILL)in 1865 but the rate collector didn't know much about them and failed to provide an initial for the surname which I guessed was Ringrove. The assessment of 1868 records the occupant of the 60 acres (i.e. 18B Kangerong) as Brian Ringrose.
It seems that this pioneer had been much concerned in public affairs at Smythesdale before coming to Red Hill, that is if his given name was Briant! After finding that Mr Ringrose was forever moving and seconding this and that according to a Ballarat newspaper, The Star, I came across an article on page 3 of the 23-5-1863 issue, which stated that Mr Briant Ringrose was the manager of the Great Trend Co. An advertisement on page 4 of the 18-2-1862 issue of The Star shows that Bryan Ringrose was the manager of the Reliance Gold Mining Company whose operations were to be at Scarsdale; however, he was later taken to court for not paying calls on his shares. After the accident mentioned below, Ringrose was taken to Scarsdale.
Mr Ringrose had been one of 18 men proposed by a meeting in 1861 for the municipal election of seven members. Smythesdale had much interest in communal activity and an exhibition was planned. In an article about the planning committee, an interesting item found underground by Mr Bryan Ringrose was mentioned. (The Star 19-9-1861.) Mr Ringrose was a member of the local Turf Club (13-9-1862 page 1s),and on the committee of the cricket club (1-11-1860 page 2). He was a manager or shareholder at several gold mining companies such as the Great Trend, the Reliance, the Mount Bute (The Star 3-11-1862 page 4)and, one would think, finally, the Cape Clear, where Bryan found he no longer had a nose for business. (Sorry Bryan, I deserve punishment for that one!)
It would be fortunate if our Red Hill pioneer had spent his previous time at Ballarat rather than in Tasmania (as Trove demonstrates) but not so fortunate if our Briant/Bryan Ringrose had moved to another mining company by November 1863; if so,he no longer had a nose. (The Star 25-11-1863 page 2.) This explosion took place at
Sprindallah where Bryan Ringrose had applied for a mining lease in 1861 but then withdrawn his application (The Star 5-11-1861, page 3.)
It would seem that Bryan Ringrose decided that a quiet farming life was better suited to a man who had been disfigured and moved to Red Hill within a year of his accident. After the article of 25-11-1863, there was no more mention of Bryan Ringrose of Smythesdale!
There is not yet proof that the Smythedale pioneer was also the Red Hill pioneer. I have not even found a Brian/Bryan Ringrose in genealogy websites apart from one in New Zealand. I have asked the historical society which covers Smythesdale if they have any record of Bryan Ringrose being still in that area in 1865. (See end of RINGROSE entry!)
Today, I traced the Ringrose grant year by year and these are my findings.
All entries relate to 60 acres of land in Kangerong.
2-9-1865. 1-9-1866. 1-9-1867. Ringrose (surname only) was assessed on 60 acres, Kangerong, a house being first mentioned in 1867 but probably there all the time.
5-9-1868. The given name, Brian, is recorded for the first time . The house had one room.
4-9-1869. The given name was altered with a stroke (/) to turn i into y. The house is not mentioned.
3-9-1870. There are no assessment numbers but the person to be rated is recorded as Bryan Ringrose.
2-9-1871. No Ass. No. After Bryan Ringrose's name that of William Hillas (sic) is written in inverted commas, probably indicating that William Hillis was leasing the 60 acres. William Hillis was not assessed on any other land (P.S.IN THE PARISH OF KANGERONG.)
7-9-1872. No Ringrose. No assessment numbers. William Hillis was assessed on the 60 acres under H. One would assume that he had bought the land but with these rate collectors it is dangerous to assume anything.
6-9-1873. No Ass.No. Under H, William J.Hillis is crossed out and Francis Hirst is written above it. The owner's name, Ringrose, is not forgotten as it was in 1872.
5-9-1874, 2-10-1875, 15-9-1876. Under H, Francis Hirst was assessed each time with the owner being, respectively: Ringrose, Bryan Ringrose and Blank! Had it been sold this time?
14-9-1877. No listing under H (Hirst) or R (Ringrove). Look at every assessment in Centre Riding for 60 acres Kangerong or Ringrose in "Owner" column. Job Sherwood was leasing the 60 acres from B.Ringrose.
27-7-1878. Job Sherwood still leasing from B.Ringrose. N.A.V. was 14 pounds. (I hadn't checked it previously but I did notice it had been 10 pounds earlier on.)
24-7-1879. Nothing under S. Nothing under R. Look through all centre riding assessments. Under D, Charles Daniel was recorded as leasing from B.Ringrose.
31-7-1880, 30-7-1881. Nothing under D. Check whole of centre riding again for 60 ac K or Ringrose in owner column. The property had been forgotten (see ASSESSMENTS entry) and at the very end it was noted, without an assessment number, that what looked like John Gawin was leasing from B.Ringrose. The 1881 entry was clearly John Galvin and he was a labourer but the owner column was blank. Had Galvin bought 18B Kangerong?
29-7-1882, 21-7-1883.(A.N. 276 and 275/150, in shire, in riding.) Occupant column blank but Bryan Ringrose was listed as the owner in both years. The 83-4 rates were paid by Mr Ellis on 26-5-1884. I think we can assume that Ellis meant Hillis.
19-7-1884. (Nothing near previous assessment numbers.) Check whole riding for 60 acres K or Ringrose in owner column. (A.N. 110.) William Kemp, orchardist, was leasing from B.Ringrose.
20-7-1885. Not one Kangerong property of 60 acres was listed. No Ringrose in owner column. This looks like it!
17-7-1886. I wrote nothing so the result must have been the same as for 1885.
16-7-1887. Between Rudduck (157) and Segrave (158) but with no assessment number or occupier name, Ringrose was listed as the owner. The rates were paid by Hillas (sic.)
Blank July, 1888. A.N.28. Ringrose in owner column.
Blank July, 1889. No 60 acres Kangerong assessed. Had it been absorbed into a large landholding or had the rate collector forgotten the property again? Hardly any entries in the owner column and no sign of Ringrose.
Blank July 1990. No 60 acres Kangerong or Ringrose. A retrospective examination re William Hillis made sense of a baffling entry in 1891. In 1890, William Hillis was assessed on 273 acres in Wannaeue and Kangerong; to the left of this description, in tiny numerals, 60 was written above 213 (A.N. 98.) One would assume that this meant 60 acres in Wannaeue and 213 acres in Kangerong but as I said before, with these rate collectors don't assume anything.
William Hillis was granted 23A Wannaeue on 12-11-1888 and 23B Wannaeue on 10-12-1885. The first consisted of 59 acres 3 roods and 34 perches and is roughly indicated by Melway 171 H, part J-6. The second consisted of 153 acres o roods and 36 perches and is indicated by 171 pt.J, and K, 5-6. With 40 perches making a rood and 4 roods making an acre, the total of these two allotments is 213 acres and 30 perches. Therefore the 60 acre block was in Kangerong. Segrave's 60 acres were in Flinders and the only other 60 acre block, apart from Bryan Ringrose's 18B Kangerong, was Henry Dunn's "Four Winds" but this had become 233 acres years earlier.Therefore the land on which William Hillis was assessed in 1890 should read: 60 acres, 18B Kangerong and 213 acres, 23 AB Wannaeue.
Blank July, 1991. William Hillas (sic) was assessed on 60 acres Wannaeue and Kangerong. Perhaps William had mortgaged his grants or they may have been sequestered so he only had Bryan Ringrose's grant but because the rate collector wasn't sure whether the 60 or the 213 acre land was in Wannaeue, he kept the Wannaeue and Kangerong tag.
Blank July 1992. William Hillis could have had 60 acres Kangerong (preceded by an ink blot that looked a bit like a one or 160 acres.
If our Bryan Ringrose was disfigured and not often seen in public, it seems that William Hillis was one of his few friends. The following is being placed here rather than in the HILLIS entry so that it can be seen in context regarding the information from the rate books.
Bruce Bennett states on page 22 of THE BUTCHER THE BAKER THE:
William Hillas (sic) owned land on the corner of Wilsons and Main Creek Rd (i.e. 23 AB Wannaeue) and 27 acres on the top of White Hill including Watermill Farm. He was named as a butcher in the 1884 rates and appears to have been Red Hill's first butcher.
While reading an extract from Joseph McIlroy's diary on page 19 of Sheila Skidmore's THE RED HILL, where Joseph mentioned staying the night at Mr Hillis's place while bringing a steer back from Frankston on 9-3-1881, I was thinking of the Wannaeue land and presumed that for some reason he had travelled via Eaton's Cutting. Now it is pretty clear that he had travelled up White Hill Rd from Moat's Corner and stopped near the McIlroys Rd corner. William Hillis may have been leasing S.P.Calder's much later grant. He could not have been on Bryan's 18B because John Galvin seems to have been there from July 1880 to July 1882.
I received the following reply from Margaret Roberts, Research Officer of the Woady Yaloak Historical Society. Dear ---, I have searched through all our records and I have reached the same conclusion as you. The Brian Ringrose who was at Red Hill is most probably the same one who was at Smythesdale/Browns/Scarsdale in the early 1860's. Did you notice there was also a Joseph Ringrose here as well? A brother or father maybe as they were involved in many of the same mining ventures.
As you have surmised I have found no records of either of them after the accident. The two doctors who attended the victims, Drs Foster and Saengar were two of the best doctors in the area. Dr Foster was at Piggoreet and would have been the closest doctor to the accident whereas Dr Saengar was at Scarsdale and would have been the next closest. Poor Dr Saengar was murdered in September 1865 by a deranged man in Scarsdale. Please note that Smythesdale has an S in the middle. I noticed that in your article on him in the Red Hill article you omitted it. Good history though, congratulations.
Thanks Margaret for all your trouble. Sorry about the missing S which I have now remedied.
by itellya on 2015-01-24 22:21:57
iF YOU THINK THAT IT'S FAR-FETCHED TO PRESUME THAT BRYAN RINGROSE MOVED FROM NEAR BALLARAT TO (OUR) RED HILL, HERE'S ANOTHER BLOKE THAT DID PRACTICALLY THAT. ONE OF HIS SONS, THE CRACK RIFLEMAN I THINK, WHO TOURED THE LAND AS A SORT OF BUFFALO BILL TO SHOW THAT A CERTAIN RIFLE OR AMMUNITION WAS SUPERIOR, MARRIED A Red Hill HUNTLEY GIRL.(Bill Huntley.)
DAVID MAIRS OF THE PARISHES OF BLACKWOOD AND BITTERN, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2012-08-26 10:51:08. page views: 1112, comments: 5
by janilye on 2015-01-28 14:35:20
Bryan Ringrose with the mining interests at Ballarat died at the Tibooburra Hospital in NSW on the 30th. December 1903.
I'm attempting to correct the impossible copy now.
by janilye on 2015-01-28 15:06:03
So no! not your Red Hill Ringrose
Here's your proof
by itellya on 2015-01-28 16:59:55
Fantastic find janilye. I'll have to pass it on to the historical society lady who replied to my email about Bryan. It seems likely that Bryan had moved away by 1885 (see assessments on 18B Kangerong.) This would fit in well with him settling in N.S.W.in about 1888. As the farm was obviously unoccupied and the current owner could not be determined, there might have been an assessment under O (for owner) in 1885/6 and 1886/7. This was standard procedure when a farm was unoccupied and the rate collector was unsure of its ownership. The Mrs Ringrose in George McLear's account book of 1865 (P.91 of Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA)could have been Bryan's mother. It stands to reason that Bryan did not marry but my assumption that he would have shunned public appearances was way off the mark,given his continued political activity post 1888.
Given his arrival in his new abode in N.S.W. soon after ownership of 18B Kangerong became unclear and the possibility that Mrs Ringrose of 1865 was Bryan's mother, it cannot be concluded that Bryan Ringrose of the Ballarat area and N.S.W. was not also the Red Hill pioneer. Perhaps Bryan's mother died circa 1884-5 and he, having probably been caring for her for some years,was free to experience adventure again.
by janilye on 2015-01-28 17:02:58
For those researching Bryan RINGROSE Esq., J.P (miner) he emigrated from Newark, Nottinghamshire, probably around 1853 for he did mention in a speech, he had been in Ballarat since 1853. He was on the Bench in Balranald and Broken Hill from abt. 1890.
I believe he had a relationship with Joseph RINGROSE for they both bought shares in the same mines. Joseph, also a miner, lived in Scarsdale, Lal Lal, Elaine and Geelong
NSW.BDM 3374/1904 RINGROSE BRYAN 73 YRS TIBBOBURRA TIBOOBURRA
STATE RECORDS NSW. Intestate Estate Case Papers
RINGROSE Bryan - 0001
REMARKS Miner Died Tibooburra Hospital Native of England
LOCATION OF FILE[10/27662]
His Auriferous Leases in Milparinka began 29 June 1896 until 26 August 1899
by janilye on 2015-01-28 17:31:34
I mean't to add that in 1913 Bryan Ringrose Esq., J. P. (miner) appeared in this list in Adelaide.UNCLAIMED MONEY which is how I knew he was from Newark, Nott. and also unsure of his relationship with Joseph if any.
by janilye on 2015-01-28 17:45:35
And in this speech HERE he says he had been a miner since 1853.
I've tagged quite a few years in the life of Bryan in Trove and
I am not able to find any mention of Red Hill in the miner's life
When he was writing A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA (published after his death), Colin McLear had no TROVE to help him and unfortunately Miss Maude Eaton of Dromana had died in her 90's two or more decades earlier, in 1956. He probably assumed that Watson had received some medical training before leaving America with Abraham Griffith Snr. (and his gold mining brother, Mr Eaton.)
The index in Colin's book reads in part:
Eaton, Mr [gold miner] 54,68,69,72, 114, 156
Eaton, Watson 69,72,114,121,132
Eaton's Cutting 79.
FROM MY LONG-NEGLECTED D.R.A.M.A. ON TROVE.(HISTORY OF DROMANA,ROSEBUD AND MILES AROUND.)
EATON. Watson Eaton and his previously unidentified brother (whom Iâll call P.U. for the moment) came to Australia from Philadelphia with the Griffiths and they farmed together on Jamiesonâs Special Survey alongside settlers such as the McLears, Peateys and Clydesdales. Watson (had spent time studying medicine-WRONG) and was lauded for caring for the health of people far and wide before he died in 1877 following a fall while riding to a patient. He had settled on 150 acres on the west side of the south end of Eatons Cutting Rd and Rebecca Griffith, his executrix, received the grant. P. U. whose name was actually Bernard, had spent time on the gold fields, being at one stage a race* owner at Creswick. By the late 1880âs he was back in Dromana, operating a gold mine at the Tubbarubba diggings east of Moats Corner and employing the lads from the Moat, Peatey and Clydesdale families, which now lived near his mine. Bernardâs daughter, Maude, lived in Dromana until her death, her rates most likely being paid by Benjamin Eaton, a librarian who was possibly her brother. Harry Eaton must have been another brother. (*A race was a channel carrying water to mines for sluicing.)
The above was probably written in 2011 and I felt pretty smug. I don't like mysteries and after about six months I'd found the given name of Watson's gold mining brother. I did not expect an even more spectacular discovery. This is what I wrote on a "WANT TO EXPLORE DROMANA'S HISTORY?" sheet that I handed out to very appreciative families on the Dromana foreshore yesterday (Australia Day)in order to increase interest in the Dromana Historical Society museum.
"Watson Eaton,who served as the area's doctor for many years,never attended university or had any medical training but after his death in 1877 residents honoured his services with a marble memorial which can be seen in the museum."
The purpose of this journal is to provide a parking space for the article about an inquest etc. in which Watson testified that he'd never attended university or had any medical training. I have spent two fruitless hours trying to find it on trove, it is not in my Peninsula Dictionary,D.R.A.M.A. ON TROVE, or apparently in any of my journals. BUT I WILL NEVER GIVE UP.
POSTSCRIPT. Thursday, 19-2-2015.
I didn't give up my quest to find the article but eventually conceded that I would never find it using trove so last night I tried another tack. Extract from my comment at about 2 a.m. last night.
by itellya on 2015-02-18 09:11:44
THIS IS WHAT I'VE SPENT YEARS LOOKING FOR. I EVENTUALLY FOUND THE ARTICLE BY TRACING MY EARLY JOURNALS BACK TO WHERE I HAD GIVEN THE SOURCE FOR WATSON EATON'S ADMISSION AND IT WASN'T AT AN INQUEST AS I HAD THOUGHT.
THIS IS WHY I HADN'T FOUND IT ON TROVE.
A\ atson 1 aton a fauna neai rtnimna -
I have been pnetismg medicine foi the last
20 jems I mu not a icgistei.d pnctitionei
Neva was at a univasitj Iliac is no
dot toi ni the neighbourhood
AND IN ENGLISH!
Watson Eaton, a farmer near Dromana-
I have been practising medicine for the last 20 years. I am not a registered practitioner. Never was at a university. There is no doctor in the neighbourhood. (P.6,Argus,3-2-1873.) etc.
AN INVESTIGATION OF WHEN MAIN CREEK NEAR DROMANA, BECAME MAIN RIDGE, AND THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE DITTERICH FAMILY IN ITS METHODIST CHURCH.
FROM AN EMAIL.
Hopefully the articles below will help. If there is no mention of the Ditterich family in connection with the Main Ridge Methodist Church (none found on trove either), they might have been quiet "behind the scenes" adherents or had a Metho/Pressy mix like the McIlroys.
From my journal:
THE SHIRE OF FLINDERS, MORNINGTON PENINSULA ...
DITTERICH Arthur Ralph 1961-4
Extract from my journal, PIONEER PATHWAY, DROMANA.
WEDDING AT MAIN CREEK. Weddings are as a general rule interesting subjects, either to write or talk about, and the one at Main Creek on the 5th inst., was no exception to the rule. On that date, Miss Christiania Shand, (youngest daughter of Alexander and Charlotte Shand) of Main creek, was united in wedlock to Richard, (youngest son of Richard and Eliza Ditterich of Canterbury. The ceremony took place at noon, and was performed by the Rev R. Brown, of South Melbourne, assisted by the Rev E. Smith of Dromana. The marriage took place in a very picturesque part of the garden, underneath an arch of evergreens, nicely interwoven with flowers. The bride who was given away by her father, was most becomingly dressed in a cream fancy cashmere, trimmed with lace, white tulle veil, and wreath of orange blossoms. Mr J. Shand acted as best man, principal bridesmaid, Miss Ditterich dressed in white dress and blue sash. Miss A.Gunson in white dress and blue sash ; Miss A. Crichton white dress and pink ribbons ; Miss E. Barker, white dress and cream sash. At one o'clock about 50 guests sat down to the wedding breakfast. The tables fairly groaning beneath the weight of good things, which were provided. After the usual toasts had been proposed and responded to, and the Revs Brown and Smith had each made a short speech, the party adjourned to the lawn where the bride and bridegroom had their photographs taken by Mr Wright, of Flinders. Shortly after this the carriage was announced, which was to convey the newly wedded pair and a few of the friends to the railway station, and amid a shower of good wishes and rice the party drove off for Mornington. They will shortly proceed to St Arnaud, in which circuit Mr Ditterich is engaged. During the afternoon games were freely indulged in by the guests. The party breaking up shortly before 6 p.m., owing to the inclemency of the weather. Everybody thoroughly enjoying themselves. (P.3, Mornington Standard, 14-4-1892.)
They or their descendants obviously came back to Main Ridge. The Main Ridge Cricket Club, whose President, Jason Albress, is a descendant of a Rye pioneer, plays on the A.R. and F.Ditterich Reserve. Arthur Ralph Ditterich was a Flinders Shire councillor 1961-4. The Shand family was probably related to the Downward family of Mornington, Tubbarubba and Kangerong; Downward Shand 1915-17 and John Shand 1902-7 and 1916-23 were also councillors of the shire.
Bill Huntley told me that all the Shands had moved to Gippsland by 1920 and the Ditterich family may have taken over their property. The Shands may have had property near Warragul while still at Main Ridge; there was a Cr Ditterich in the Warragul Shire in the 1880's.
The Ditterich family was at Main Ridge by 1926 where F.Ditterich dominated with bat and ball for Main Ridge in their victory over Ray Cairns' Boneo, scoring 71 of 154 and taking 5 for 85 with the assistance of R.Ditterich who took 3 for 46.(P.18, Argus, 24-11-1926.) I now know why the Ditterich family returned to Main Creek and that the two cricketers were Frank and Ralph. You will remember that Rev. Richard Ditterich married Christiana Shand. Richard's preaching had taken him to Launceston where he died on 9-9-1928, dearly beloved husband of Christiana and loving father of Ralph, Frank, Howard and Keith*.(P.1, Argus, 10-9-1928.)
*P.S. Eric Keith Ditterich could possibly have been related to the Main ridge mob. David Ditterich of Dromana, might know.
1979 Birthday Honours - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Keith Owen Shipley, OBE, lately Special Adviser to the Chief Minister, Gilbert Islands. ..... The Reverend Eric Keith Ditterich, of Glen Iris, For service to the Uniting ...
Bill Huntley told me that John Shand had done a lot of surveying in Gippsland. That would explain how Alexander Jnr came to marry a Gippsland gal and one of his sisters married a Gippsland lad, Rev. Ditterich.
METHODIST CHURCH REV. DITTERICH FAREWELLED.
Daily Telegraph (Launceston, Tas. : 1883 - 1928) Friday 16 April 1926 p 5 Article
... METHODIST CHURCH REV. D1TTERICH PAREWELLED. MELBOURNE, Thursday. â Rev. R. Ditterich, chief ... take charge of the lead ing Methodist church in Launceston Tasmania, was farewelled at an! afternoon ... 118 words
DEATH OF THE REV. DR. DITTERICH. PROMINENT METHODIST CHURCHMAN. Launceston, September 9.
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1931) Monday 10 September 1928 p 19 Article
... DEATH OF THE REV. DR. DITTERICH. PROMINENT METHODISTCHURCHMAN. Launceston, September 9. The death ... the Methodist Church in the Victorian and Tasmanian conference. when he accepted an Invitation to come ... 174 words
It would seem that Main Creek became Main Ridge in local vernacular by 1926 but it is not proven that the name change was official*. Was it in 1927 that the cricket club changed its name?
* POSTSCRIPT. THE FOLLOWING SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT THE NAME CHANGE OF MAIN CREEK TO MAIN RIDGE HAD BEEN MADE OFFICIAL BY THE START OF 1925.
Mrs. Eden White, who was successful In her tender for carrying the mail, from Main Ridge to Red Hill,
has started her duties. Mr. M. Dalcom, of Main Ridge, was the former carrier.--"Post."
(RED HILL. Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Wednesday 21 January 1925 p 1 Article.)
Knowing that post office information was sometimes the ONLY historical information about places on Wikipedia, I tried the MAIN RIDGE page but while it mentioned the name change,there was apparently never a post office. There does not appear to be a wikipedia entry for Main Ridge under its former name but the search uncovered an indication of how the place name applied to anyone living along the length of the creek from Bullocky Bob White near Whites Rd to the Tucks near Flinders.
Elizabeth Tuck 1847 - 1917 Main Creek, Victoria, Australia
WikiTree - Free Wiki Family Tree Â· login | register. no image ... Born March 7, 1847 in Main Creek, Victoria, Australia map. Daughter of Henry Tuck and Catherine ...
ROBERTS, MAIN CREEK/RIDGE.
FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENTS. DROMANA.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Thursday 19 September 1895 p 2 Article
... , of Main Creek, another old resident, joined the great majority last Tuesday week. Deceased had been ... was interred in the DromanaCemetery. A large number of people attended the funeral. Mr. C. Roberts
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 6 February 1926 p 20 Article
John Edward Roberts, aged 52 years, of Main
Ridge, Red Hill, near Dromana, orchadist, was
granted a decree nisi for the dissolution of his
marriage with Louisa Roberts, of Heidelberg road, Clifton Hill, on the ground of desertion.
DITTERICH, MAIN CREEK/ RIDGE.
WEDDING AT MAIN CREEK.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Thursday 14 April 1892 p 3 Article
... WEDDING AT MAIN CREEK. Weddings are as a general rule interesting subjects, either to write or talk ... about, and the one at MainCreek on the 5th inst., was no exception to the rule. On that date, Miss ...335 words
Text last corrected on 27 October 2012 by anonymous
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In Memoriam. MRS. CHARLOTTE SHAND.
Spectator and Methodist Chronicle (Melbourne, Vic. : 1914 - 1918)Wednesday 25 July 1917 p 793 Article
... , of Main Creek, Dromana, entered into rest ori June 2nd, in her ninetieth year. Born in Tiverton ... , while 'her' youngest daughter is the. wife of the Rev. R. Ditterich. One other daughter -
COUNTRY CRICKET CONFERENCE.
The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) Thursday 10 December 1925 p 7 Detailed Lists, Results, Guides
... , Greaves 15, Beck IS; Radford six for II, Ditterlch two for 21) defeatedMain Creek 131 (F. Ditterich 01, R ... . Ditterich 10; Maine three for S3, Cleino two for 1, Hansford two for 31).
SHAND, MAIN CREEK /MAIN RIDGE.
In Memoriam. MRS. CHARLOTTE SHAND.
Spectator and Methodist Chronicle (Melbourne, Vic. : 1914 - 1918)Wednesday 25 July 1917 p 793 Article
... , of Main Creek, Dromana, entered into rest ori June 2nd, in her ninetieth year. Born in Tiverton ... In Memoriam. MRS. CHARLOTTESHAND. . ' . ) Charlotte^ Sliand, wido w of the late Alexander Shand ... 332 words
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Friday 23 April 1897 p 3 Article
... of I. Roberts E.q. Main Creek, Dromana Mrs Shand, Dromina 1 Mrsafohn D. CaUnea,.Bomaeo.. 2 Homie ... 3499 words
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 11 November 1939 p 4 Family Notices
... Alexander and Charlotte Shand, of Main Ridge. Dromana, dearly beloved uncle of Anne Milne, in his 81st yeur ... Interred Williams-town Cemetery ) WADSWORTH-On the 9th November nt Stawell Rowland Henry of Main street ... 6801 words
THE FIVE DIFFERENT FAMILIESWERE:
1.A Wilson family in Mornington from which one parent of Charles Bowman Wilson came.
2. Descendants of BONNIE WILLIAM OF DUNDEE, one of which, a "Tuerong Station" Wilson, was a parent of Charles Bowman Wilson.
3.Descendants of Sarah Wilson as detailed in Petronella Wilson's GIVING DESTINY A HAND.
4.Descendants of butcher turned bullocky turned butcher,Henry William Wilson, and Thamer (nee Burdett, both of whom are buried in Dromana Cemetery) as documented in A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA and LIME LAND LEISURE.
5.Descendants of G.M.Wilson who fought in the Boer War, married Jane,the daughter of Charles Graves Snr,(pioneer on Jamieson's Special Survey, Shoreham storekeeper and owner of "Woodlands" in the parish of Flinders.)
Re 1. I don't document families in places with historical societies but Val Wilson might have details on her excellent Mornington Cemetery website. I can't recall whether this family provided Charlie's mother or father.
Re 2. From Val Wilson's website.
John Bowman Wilson
John Bowman Wilson,John Bowman Wilson, William Sorell Wilson (photos.)
John Bowman Wilson was born in Tasmania on the 10th of October, 1830, and arrived in Victoria in 1857 with his wife Agnes and family, to try his luck on the Castlemaine goldfields.
John was also accompanied by his brother William Sorell Wilson and his family, who were on their way to manage âTruganinaâ, a property in Derrimut, Victoria.
By 1863, the family had moved to the Mornington Peninsula where, in 1869, John and William purchased âTuerongâ. John certainly did not have much luck farming because he became insolvent in 1880 and sold âTuerongâ back to his brother and his own son, Edwin.
The property is now largely subdivided into extensive vineyards, notably Red Hill Estate, Dromana Estate, Tuerong Estate and others. The freeway to Rosebud now passes through where the original property stood.
John Bowman died on the 13th of February, 1893, aged 62 and Agnes died a year later, aged 61. They are buried together in the Mornington cemetery.
With the exception of little Agnes Eliza Wilson, who is buried in the Castlemaine cemetery (died at age 2Â½ yrs), all of John Bowman and Agnes Elizaâs eleven children grew up and married and had their families, so that the Wilson family is today still well represented by the Victorian descendants of William Hartley Wilson and his wife Margaret (nee Bowman) - John and William's parents.
Johnâs ninth child, Chas, is also buried in Mornington Cemetery. John's grandson, Charles Bowman Wilson, who was born on 10 November 1903, became the Shire President of Mornington, and the C.B. Wilson Reserve on Wilsons Road in Mornington is named after him.
See much more in:
Stories 2 | Bonnie William - Bonnie William from Dundee
... Hastings farms of William Sorell Wilson & Family Â· Tuerong, Murder, Mystery, ... the Bonnie William clan to bring to our attention stories and documents about ...
Re 3. See my journals about Sarah (including how she led me to Henry Tuck),George Young and the Connells of Moorooduc as Petronella's book may not be borrowed. Names: LAURISSEN JOHNSON CHANGED TO JOHNSTONE, GOMM, CONNELL ETC.
Re 4. See sources quoted or google WILSON THAMER BURDETT GODFREY STENNIKEN to find a few of my journals about the family, and WILSON TOWNSEND MOUTH TO MOUTH for an extraordinary tale about the saving of a Wilson lad.
Re 5. Former councillor David Jarman started it all off when he suggested that I contact Peter Hemphill about the BACK TO RED HILL, adding that Peter was a "(grandson of Jerve Wilson) orchardist who served in the Boer war." Peter didn't know of any relationship to Sarah Wilson's descendants and Jean Rotherham told me to check with Bev Laurissen who was quite sure there wasn't one. I thought that Boer War records might give details about the soldier's parents but I couldn't find his service record.
That was when janilye came to the rescue.
And this is what I wrote to Peter.
Your grandfather may not have been a descendant of Sarah Wilson, pioneer on Jamieson's Special Survey, but your grandmother was the daughter of Charles Graves, who with a partner named Brown-Lee (according to a heritage study) leased the whole survey in 1851 when Henry Dunn's lease expired.
Charles was a hawker who travelled to Melbourne to buy goods that he would sell all over the peninsula, including the Cairns family's "Little Scotland" on the north east corner of Browns and Boneo Rds. His partner in the hawking business was Mary McLear whose husband had been killed near the Plenty River at the end of 1849; she arrived on the survey shortly after Charles Graves. Young George McLear helped by taking a change of horse to Frankston when Charles was coming back from Melbourne and his brother Bill accompanied Charles on one amusing visit to Little Scotland.(Pages 99,.34-5 A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
Charles bought and fenced the property at Dromana which became the McLear family's "Maryfield" before becoming a storekeeper at Shoreham and a landholder in the parish of Flinders. As soon as I saw janilye's statement that your grandfather married Jane Graves, I knew who would be her father. Two death notices for Jane's brother prove that it was Charles Graves senior, the former hawker.
by janilye on 2015-01-25 16:18:36
Good heavens all this chasing your tails when you should have asked me!!
His name was Gervaise Maison Wilson and his service number was 508.
You'll find him on the Nominal Roll page 248.
All information is held at the Australian War Memorial which is now all online or a phone-call away.
Happy Australia Day.
by janilye on 2015-01-25 16:28:37
NAME: Gervaise Mason Wilson
BIRTH YEAR: abt 1880
DEATH PLACE: Dromana, Victoria
FATHER'S NAME: Alfred
MOTHER'S NAME: Flora Hunt
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1965
REGISTRATION PLACE: Victoria
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 20045
SPOUSE: Christian Jane Graves married 1908
by janilye on 2015-01-25 16:50:32
I see he was listed in the electoral rolls as Gervase Mason, however on his enlistment into the 3rd. Contingent the spelling of his name was Gervaise Maison.
Private Wilson was invalided back to Australia om 2 May 1901
Off to War.
by itellya on 2015-01-25 17:46:46
Thanks janilye, you're a marvel!
GRAVES.- On the 19th September, 1929, at Corowa (N.S.W ), Charles, son of the late Charles and Jane Graves, brother of T.J. Graves, Mrs J Symonds (Flinders), and Mrs G M Wilson (Red Hill), formerly of Flinders and Mornington.
GRAVES.-On the 19th September at Barina, Corowa, Charles, beloved brother of Isabella (Mrs Symonds), Thomas, and Jane (Mrs Wilson), aged 58 years, late of Flinders, Victoria.
(P.1, Argus, 20-9-1929.)
Extract from my journal:
RED HILL NEAR DROMANA (VIC., AUST.) POST 1940 and proposed BACK TO RED HILL.
GRAVES' (c/a 15, section A,Flinders,s/w corner Punty Lane and Tucks Rd. Only 190 acres. Melway 255 J5, H6, fronting the north west side of Punty Lane with the western boundary being from the creek in the exact centre of G6 to a point almost opposite 425 Tucks Rd.In 1900, Charles Graves Snr and Jnr were assessed on 374 acres, Flinders. I cannot establish where the other 184 acres were. )
A little farther along the road toward the coast we come to "Woodlands," a property of nearly 400 acres, belonging to Mr Graves, a very old resident of the district. Besides having a large orchard and garden, the
owner of "Woodlands" goes in largely for poultry farming. Mr Graves also conducts one of the oldest storekeeping businesses in the southern part of the Mornington Peninsula. The property is in good order and crops of any sort should grow well in the rich chocolate soil.
(P.2, Mornington Standard,20-9-1902.AROUND FLINDERS.)
See A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA re Charles Graves and his business partnership with Mary McLear before moving to Shoreham.
It is very difficult to ascertain the first use of present names of streets and roads in the shire on trove. There would be no record of why streets were so named, so assumptions need to be made. Unfortunately,it is very highly unlikely that Joseph Banks' botanist mate, who climbed Arthurs Seat with Flinders, was the person being honoured.
I believe that the Rye end of the road, where James Little Brown turned burrows and scrub into beautiful pasture was first named, with perhaps other names applied east of Weeroona St. Later it would have made sense to apply one name to the whole length of the road as seems to have happened between Truemans Rd and Rye where Guest St, named after the family of Ray and Alma Guest,extends outside the Almaray Estate into the pre-emptive right and east into Alf Doig's Oceanaire Estate.
When Flinders (and Kangerong till 1914)Shire let contracts for roadworks they would state how many chains and the names of residents at each end of the stretch of road BECAUSE VERY FEW ROADS HAD NAMES.
As late as 1943, some roads still had different names than they bear today and they were probably not official. See George Hill's death notice below. Rye Rd was most likely today's Melbourne Rd.
HILL.-On April 28, at his residence, Rye road, Sorrento. George, dearly beloved husband of Elizabeth, loving father of Lucy(Mrs. Waldon) Ethel (Mrs. Cain), William, Charles, Arthur, Bob, Mary (Mrs. Aslin), Eric, Len, aged 77.(P.2, Argus, 29-4-1943.)
Eastbourne Rd in Rosebud was called Ford's Lane in about 1902 because Cr William Ford had owned the 660 acre Wannaeue Station on its south side from Jetty Rd(the road near the state school) to Boneo Rd (which was known as the Flinders road) a couple of decades earlier. By 1920 Jack Raper, a former Essendon Football Club player and official, whose embarrassing surname was pronounced by Rosebud oldtimers as Roper, owned the Wannaeue Estate and the road was called Roper's Lane. It is now named after S.S.Crispo's grants, which he named Eastbourne and where he wanted the new nation's capital to be sited and named Federanium. Edward Williams, whose new homestead (17 WILLIAM Crescent- how stupid!) was built a few years after his mate's death,retain Crispo's name for the property.
In about 1904 when Robert Henry Adams and Back Road Bob Cairns were having a huge drainage dispute, today's Bayview Rd was called Hobson's Flat road by Robert Anderson of Barragunda, Cape Schanck (to which the road led, meeting today's Boneo Rd at Melway 253 C 9-10.) (P.2, Mornington Standard, 29-10-1904.)
Weeroona St, Rye was called Jennings Road, after the family went to Rye from Camperdown and bought land rehabilitated by James Little Brown to establish "Kariah". It was between Weeroona Rd and Dundas St (which was originally known as Browns Rd.)
It is unknown when Dundas St became known as Browns Road but one would suspect that it was after the c.1909 arrival of JAMES LITTLE BROWN.
FROM MY SHIRE OF FLINDERS JOURNAL.(Councillor entries.)
BROWN James Little J.P. 1915-22
(Postscript. Despite being called John in a long succession of assessments, the man after whom Browns Rd was named was James Little Brown.)
ROSEBUD. Mr J. L. Brown, who is opposing Mr Marsden in the West riding of the Flinders and Kangerong Shire, addressed the ratepayers on Tuesday evening. (P.3, Mornington Standard, 29-8-1914.)
At the last meeting of the Shire Council Councillor A.D.Forbes of the East Riding and Councillor J.L.Brown of the West Riding announced their intention of not seeking re election. The president (Councillor Macfarlan) and other councillors expressed regret at the announcements. In the Central Riding Councillor Wettenhall is opposed by Mr Holland of "The Rest" Flinders,and the contest is likely to be very keen.
(P.14, Argus, 17-8-1923, BALNARRING.)
LIME LAND LEISURE discusses at great length how James Little Brown arrived in Rye in 1909 on a pushbike, having previously been in the Mallee. He noted how similar the ti tree and rabbit infested area south of Rye was to King Island and bought much land that had passed into the hands of creditors. Patricia Appleford's RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL 1667, gives the same information but adds more detail.
Jim stayed for 18 days with Robert Rowley on the west side of Truemans Rd, south of Trueman's grant.Then he went to Melbourne and bought 1500 acres from banks and trust companies. In very short time, land was cleared, burned, fenced and sown with grass. The wire netting fences kept rabbits out and those trapped inside could not escape the inevitable.Overseen by James Cain and Robert Myers, well were dug and windmills installed to pump water into concrete troughs.
Within 12 months, Jim was selling fattened beef cattle. The rate collector may have made a mistake in 1910, unless Jim had a son called John. John H.Little Brown was assessed on:
245 acres (33AB, 35), 164 acres (29A), 102 acres (28A), 95 acres (26A) all in Wannaeue, and a total of 853 acres in the parish of Nepean (west of Weeroona Rd.)The strange thing is that there was no member of the Brown family assessed in the Wannaeue parish part of West Riding in 1919, with one exception! The location of each piece of Wannaeue land, with the name of the grantee, follows.
35, 173 acres, P.Sullivan, Melway 168 H-J11-12, 251H-J1,adjoining The Dunes.
33A, 148 acres, P.Sullivan, 251 J 2-3, K3.
33B, 40 acres, J.B.Davies, 251, K2.
29, 164.5 acres, J.Spunner, 252 D1-3.
26A, 21.5 acres, W.A.Blair Jnr, bottom third of 252 F-G 1 with a 228 metre frontage to the west side of Truemans Rd and extending to the east boundary of the Eagle Ridge Golf Course. The rate collector had it wrong; Crown allotment 26, granted to Edward Ford, consisted of 95 acres 2 roods and 20 perches and was obviously the land being assessed..
26, 95 acres, E.Ford, 252 G2-3, with frontages of 784 metres to Truemans Rd and 334 metres to Limestone Rd.
The rate collector took the easy way out by writing only "853 acres Nepean".
It is stated in LIME LAND LEISURE that the first land that James Little Brown improved was south of Rye Township between Dundas St and Weeroona Rd. Whether this included suburban lots 10,11 and 12 of the township (roughly 200 acres) which became the Ryelands Estate (McDonald's former golf course) is unclear, but a map in the book seems to indicate that it adjoined the cemetery. South of the Golf Pde corner were crown allotments 4, 20 and 21 of the parish of Nepean, a total of 374 acres,212 acres of which became Dod Jennings' Kariah in 1914. (See below for clarification.)
This SEEMS tobe blatantly incorrect, as does the claim that it was James Little Brown doing all the reclamation. There is only one mention of James Brown in the rates and that was in 1919, a decade after the reclamation commenced! John L.Brown was written as the ratepayer to be assessed on crown allotments 1, 2, 3 and buildings section 5 (under the heading of RYE, FOLIO 95, ASSESSMENT NUMBER 1882.) John is crossed out and James written above it. (I assumed that James was either the father or son of John Little Brown. If John was a rate collector's error, it is hard to imagine it being repeated for ten years. It was! See below.)
To confirm the claim that Brown arrived and bought land in 1909, I checked the 1909-10 assessments and found the Wannaeue details as in 1910 but also details of the land in the parish of Nepean; there were no entries for 1908-9. The Nepean details were:
24, granted to J.Purves, 99 acres, Melway 251 E1, fronting Dundas St, adjoining The Dunes.
17, 18, James Purves, 282 acres, Melway 168 B-D11,fronting Browns Rd, adjoining Ocean Reserve.
25, J.Purves, 82 acres, Melway 251E1, fronting Dundas St.
26, J.Purves, 111 acres, Melway 251 F2, fronting Dundas St.
32, John Cain, 176 acres(actually about 27 acres), Melway 167 F5, Miller, Topaz and Bath Sts to Harleian St.(See correction below.)
10, 11, Owen Cain, 103 acres (actually 177 acres), Melway 167, J-K 3-4, south to Fern St playground.
Section 5 of Rye Township is that area bounded by Collingwood St, Napier St, Ballabil St (and the south boundary of Kanasta Caravan Park) and Dundas St. James Brown was occupying the whole of section 5's 13 acres in 1919, after his name had replaced John's, and it may well have been the first area restored by James Little Brown but every other piece of land was supposedly turned into beautiful pasture by John Little Brown. Danny Jennings thinks that the Brown homestead on section 5, which is still standing, is 1 May Ave.
I have followed the progress of John Little Brown in 1909, 1914, 1917 and 1919 as he transformed rabbit and ti tree wastelands into this beautiful pasture. By 1914, he only had 202 of the 853 acres on which he had been assessed in the parish of Nepean, part of Owen Cain's Tyrone. He still had it in 1917 but not in 1919.By 1914, he had added land, south of Limestone Rd in the parish of Fingal. This land consisted of crown allotments:
5B, granted to E.Ford, 63 acres, Melway 252 H-J4, bounded by Limestone and Sandy Rds; a maze ing!
8B, granted to J.L.Brown on 1-12-1916, Melway 252 G7, fronting Maxwells Rd from No.131 to about a third of the way between No.180 and No.239. The Fingal land was retained in 1917 but sold by 1919.
By 1916, 28 AB and 29 Wannaeue were occupied by James and John Orr of "Kia Ora", Broadmeadows (Melway 5 H4.) By 1919 the 323 acres were occupied by Tommy Loft who had land at Greenvale, moving shortly afterwards to "Dalkeith" at Tullamarine (Melway 15 G-H 1-2.) Tommy started the Tullamarine Progress Association and was the Methodist Sunday School Superintendent for umpteen years; the late Ray Cairns remembered Tommy fondly.
JUSTICES OF THE PEACE MELBOURNE , Monday. The following were appointed justices of the peace at the meeting of the State Executive Council today: J. L. Brown of Rye, T. Falls, Caulfield. Central Bailiwick; II. S. &Ã¯Â¿Â½~btnoo etc.(P.4, The Ballarat Courier, 10-10-1916.)
SWAN HILL HOSPITAL MONTHLY MEETING. The monthly meeting of the committee of management of the Swan Hill District Hospital was held on Friday night. Present-Messrs. Chas. t M'Donald (in the chair), ,W? Moore, J.. a Wright, T. M. Ghisholm, P.-Real and F.' arris. Correspondence. From J. L. Brown, Rye, in relation to septic tanks, and stating that tanks at certain hotels and other places at Sorrento were given satisfaction. -Mr. Brown to be thanked for the information supplied. (P.2,Swan Hill Guardian and Lake Boga Advocate, 16-8-1915.)
This seems to indicate that Brown had retained links with the Mallee town. I'm sure the journalist was responsible for the use of given instead of giving.
FLINDERS AND KANGERONG SHIRE. Mr Brown, Rye, applying for wire netting.-To be attended to.(P.4, Mornington Standard, 11-3-1911.)
Railways Standing Committee at Flinders. The members of the above committee-Messrs Cameron (chair man), Hicks, Melville, Billson, Ward and Hutchinson-visited Flinders on the sth inst, to take evidence on the question of railway extension on the Peninsula. Though the notice was short the residents submitted a splendid exhibition of all varieties. The fodder, root crops, and vegetables were remarkable ; and if anything, superior to those forward at any local show. The general and comprehensive exhibits of Messrs Barger and Buchanan were conclusive proof of the suitability of the district for a wide variety of products of the highest quality. Messrs Higgins, Kennedy and Davies submitted fine samples, and Mr D. Cairns showed one stool of wheat showing 64 stalks. Mr Brown's mellilotis grown on the hitherto useless sand drives at Rye was much admired.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 15-2-1915.)
I rang Linda Berndt to check on the ancestry of Cr Graeme Jennings and as an afterthought, asked if she knew anything about John/James Little Brown. She did!
James Brown's father was James L.Brown (c. 1821-Nov.1895)and his mother was Jane (nee McGuffie, c.1825-March 1911.) James was their first child, born in 1866 at Glenlyon, but was virtually an only child because Robert (c.1868-5-9-1869) died in infancy. The Rye pioneer's parents and brother were buried at Glenlyon.
In 1903,James was enrolled as a voter at both Bunyip South and Swan Hill; Jane Brown, possibly his mother, also being enrolled at Swan Hill. In 1909 he was described as a grazier and enrolled at Bunyip South and Bendigo, his address at the latter being Bayne St, as it was for Jane Brown.
James Little Brown married Margaret Annie Short in 1911. She was the sister of Rye identity, Tommy Short, who used to drive all the Rye youngsters to dances at Boneo etc. See pioneers' recollections in RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL 1667. This year also saw the death of James' mother, Jane. His wife's name was recorded as Anne Margaret or Annie Margaret on electoral rolls in 1911 (Rye), 1919 (Rye), 1924 ("Inverleigh", Thomas St, Dandenong),
1931, 1936, 1937 (5 Trentham St, Sandringham, 1936, 1937, and 1942 (88 Bay Rd, Sandringham.) In 1954, James was still living at 88 Bay Rd but Margaret's name was not on the electoral roll.
Thank you Linda!
Further rate research revealed the following.
J.L.Brown must have told the rate collector in 1911 that his name was actually JAMES because John was crossed out and James written very faintly above it (Assessment No.823.) Too faintly it seems because when he was preparing the next assessment, he must have missed the alteration and perpetuated the "John" myth. It seems that James was sick of this nonsense by 1919 when John was again crossed out and replaced with James. You'd think the rate collector would know the councillors' names, wouldn't you?
The 1911-12 rates also demonstrated the new occupants of the many properties that Jim Brown had remediated. My notemaking is unclear about William Dawson but he seemed to have had part of 35 Wannaeue. George Ball had 245 acres(33a,b and 35 Wannaeue), and 176 acres(32 Wannaeue-see below.) Jim Woonton had 164 acres (29), 102 acres (28A), and 95 acres (26A), all in Wannaeue. In 1912-13, George Ball had 245 acres, Andrew Leonard Ball* 214 acres, and Andrew, George and Hector Ball 261 acres.
Crown allotment 32 Wannaeue was not mentioned previously because the rate collector called it 32 Nepean in 1909 (assessment number 714.) This land consisted of 176 acres as the rate collector stated; he just had the parish wrong!Granted to J.A.Jenner in 1877, it fronts the east side of Springs Lane and the north side of Limestone Rd, its northern boundary adjoining The Cups Vineyard and Winery and its east boundary indicated by the west end of Kingston Heath. (Melway 252 B 1-3.)
When James Little Brown first arrived in Rye, he stayed with Robert Rowley for a while. The connection between the Doigs and Rowleys took place in the Mallee, and also the Shaws and Rowleys but I had assumed that was post world war 1. James obviously knew Robert before he arrived. It is possible that the family of J.L.Brown had previously lived on the Peninsula. James was obviously as keen to hear Robert Rowley's stories as Robert was to tell them. Thank you to Steve Johnson for another gem.
9th September 1924
"NO GOOD DAMPER INN."
TO THE EDITOR OF THE ARGUS.
Sir,-In the interesting article, "The Gippsland Mystery," on Saturday, by Ernest McCaughan, it is stated that a party of five whites and ten blacks were sent out under the leaderhip of De Villiers, an ex police officer who kept the extraordinary named No Good Damper Inn. Apropos of this, a story was related to me by the late Robert Rowley, then of Rye (a very old colonist who had known Buckley, the wild white man). The story, which may be of interest, is that about the year 1840 lime was being burnt about Sorrento and Rye. A layer of sheoak logs was laid on the ground, then a layer of limestone. Another layer of logs, then again stone, and so on, until there was a considerable stack. Fire was next applied. By this rough and ready, though wasteful, system, lime used in the building of early Melbourne was then burned. The lime was then "slacked", afterwards sieved through a fine sieve, and forwarded to Melbourne by ketch. One of these old windjammers had the misfortune to go aground near the site of Frankston. The lime was taken off undamaged, stacked, and care- fully covered a little way from the shore. A number of blacks were in the vicinity.
They had had some little experience of the white fellow's flour. When they found the lime, sieved and done up in small bags under a tarpaulin, they were sure they had got the genuine article in plenty. So they mustered in force, took away all they possibly could, and, fearing pursuit, did not stop running till they put about 12 miles between them and the stack of lime. The blacks then mixed their flour with water upon their 'possum rugs and put the dough in the ashes to bake, the result being spoiled rugs and bad damper. In the words of Mr. Rowley, "they called that place Dandenong," which means "no good damper.
-Yours, &c., J. L. BROWN, Sandringham, Sept. 8.
TO KNOW, KNOW, KNOW YOU
IS TO LOVE, LOVE, LOVE YOU.
So go the lyrics of a well-remembered song from my youth.
I know Dandenong,firstly as a place I passed through on my way to Bunyip holidays as a child. Secondly,in the 1980's when, as a 40 year old, I had the pleasure of boundary umpiring V.F.A. at Shepley Reserve and was captivated by the play of numbers 11, 21 and 31, one of whom was the great Darren Millane's brother.
Unfortunately Wikipedia's well-documented articles about places such as Dande do not inspire love.
Prior to the European settlement of Australia, the flat to undulating land was densely forested with red gum and was inhabited by the Woiwurrung Indigenous Australian tribe.
The name is generally thought to be derived from the Woiwurrung word "Tanjenong" meaning "lofty mountains" possibly referring to the nearby Dandenong ranges.
Another popular theory is that the name comes from 'bad flour', or 'no good damper'. A local tale revolves around local aboriginals obtaining a bag of lime and mistakenly using it to make damper. An old local hotel was the 'No Good Damper Inn'.
A third version has the name Dandenong coming from 'a burning' and 'the past' reflecting bushfires on the Dandenongs.
Joseph Hawdon established a pastoral run on Narra Narrawong in 1837, bringing cattle from Sydney by land. Soon a few timber cutters and a police camp were also located there. Dandenong Post Office opened on 1 July 1848.
By 1850, the whole area had been taken up for grazing. Dandenong Creek was first bridged in 1840. A road was made from Melbourne, making Dandenong, by the late 1850s, an important staging post for travellers into Gippsland. It became known as the 'gateway to Gippsland'. A township was surveyed in 1852. Milling of the red gum timber became an important industry, and charcoal burning, tanning, quarrying and brick making also flourished. A livestock market was established in 1866.
The Western Port Aboriginal Protectorate Station was located north-east of Dandenong from 1840 to 1844. This area had been an important meeting and ceremonial site for Aboriginal tribes. The Native Police Corps established its headquarters there until its disbandment in 1852. The Police Paddocks were then used for breeding and resting police horses.
By 1861, there were 40 houses in the township housing 193 people. Dandenong Shire was proclaimed in 1873. The Australian Handbook records the progress of the town by 1875.
The Dandenong Town Hall, Lonsdale Street, was built in Free Classical style in 1890 as the combined Shire Hall, Courthouse and Mechanics Institute, at a cost of about 12,000 pounds. The architects were Beswicke and Hutchins and the contractor McCullogh and McAlpine. The two-storey, stucco rendered brick building, on a bluestone base course, features a lofty, Mansard-roofed, corner clock tower and projecting end wings with serlian motif windows and capped by pedimented niches.
LET'S SEE WHAT I CAN DO ABOUT THE ROMANCE OF DANDENONG'S HISTORY.
DROMANA AND NELSON RUDDUCK.
One would hardly expect a history of Dromana to provide details about Dandenong pioneers,but Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA does. It tells of Samuel Rudduck's arrival and land purchases in various areas; the later arrival of his son,Nelson,who was carting between Dandenong and Gippsland when he met Jane Sophia, daughter of a Mr Chapman who had been a pioneer on Tullamarine Island until a disastrous hay stack fire occurred, and was running a pub at Springvale; the move of Jane and Nelson to Dromana in about 1871; and the artistic talent of Fred Warren whose work graced Methodist churches in Dande and Dromana.
ROBERT ROWLEY AND NO GOOD DAMPER.
By the early 1900's the backblocks of Rye were rabbit and ti-tree infested. James Little Brown, whose family I believe had earlier lived in the area, transformed the disaster area in quick time into the beautiful pasture one sees during a drive along Browns Rd. Upon arrival at Rye, he stayed for about a fortnight with Robert Rowley who had burnt lime near the Heads with Henry Cadby Wells, renowned later as a Frankston pioneer. Imagine the two men chatting by the fire-side about the old days.
"NO GOOD DAMPER INN."
TO THE EDITOR OF THE ARGUS.
Sir,âIn the interesting article, "The Gippsland Mystery," on Saturday, by Ernest McCaughan, it is stated that a
party of five whites and ten blacks were sent out under the leadership of De Villiers, an ex-police officer who kept the extra-ordinary named No Good Damper Inn.
Apropos of this, a story was related to me by the late Robert Rowley, then of Rye (a very old colonist who had known Buckley, the wild white man). The story, which may be of interest, is that about the year 1840 lime was being burnt about Sorrento and Rye. A layer of sheoak logs was laid on the ground, then a layer of limestone. Another layer of logs, then again stone, and so on, until there was a considerable stack. Fire was next applied. By this rough and ready, though wasteful,system, lime used in the building of early Melbourne was then burned. The lime was then "slacked", afterwards sieved through a fine sieve, and forwarded to Melbourne by ketch.
One of these old wind-jammers had the misfortune to go aground near the site of Frankston. The lime was
taken off undamaged, stacked, and carefully covered a little way from the shore. A number of blacks were in the vicinity. They had had some little experience of the white fellow's flour. When they found the lime, sieved and done up in small bags under a tarpaulin, they were sure they had got the genuine article in plenty. So they
mustered in force, took away all they possibly could, and, fearing pursuit, did not stop running till they put about 12 miles between them and the stack of lime.
The blacks then mixed their flour with water upon their 'possum rugs and put the dough in the ashes to bake, the result being spoiled rugs and bad damper. In the words of Mr. Rowley, "they called that place Dandenong," which means "no good damper. âYours, &c., J. L. BROWN
Sandringham, Sept. 8. (P.4, Argus,9-9-1924.)
DR FARQUHAR McCRAE'S HASTY EXIT.
Two of Dandenong's streets are named after Dr Farquhar McCrae and John Fitgerald Leslie (Alphabetical)Foster. That is because the latter bought the Eumemmering run from the former. The deal did not go smoothly because the doctor had dudded Foster in some way. Foster challenged the doc to a duel and he fled to Sydney. Foster and his older brother William had another run called Leslie Park from 1840 in the parishes of Doutta Galla and Tullamarine. In 1843, William bought pre-emptive rights in both parishes straddling Sharps Rd and called his property "Springs". John bought land between Fosters Rd (now called Keilor Park Drive) and the Saltwater River which he called Leslie Banks.
Dr McCrae was an early grantee in the parish of Jika Jika, naming his property (bisected by today's Moreland Rd)after a family plantation in the West Indies called Moreland. However, the Doc had this farm managed by future Bulla pioneer, Michael Loeman, and bought "La Rose" on which he built the core of the historic bluestone WENTWORTH HOUSE on the north corner of Mitchell Pde and Le Cateau St(Melway 29 B1.) But then came the challenge from Alphabetical and Coiler Robertson bought La Rose.
The story of the challenge came from a history (possibly Richard Broome's BETWEEN TWO CREEKS, a history of Coburg), not trove, and I may never find an article about it. But the cause of it is easy to believe because Farquhar even reneged on repaying a loan that his brother, Andrew had given him,probably the reason Andrew was forced to become a squatter on Arthurs Seat circa 1843. The story described the doc's hasty departure for Sydney; is there any evidence of this? I did a "Dr Farquhar McCrae,Sydney" search on trove refined to the 1840's.
"McCrae Farquhar, M. D. Melbourne" was on a list of those qualified to give medical evidence at coroners" inquests.(The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842) Saturday 22 January 1842 p 4.) However he must have departed Melbourne soon afterwards because he landed a job as surgeon at the Sydney infirmary and dispensary when it opened in 1845*(SYDNEY DISPENSARY AND INFIRMARY.
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Thursday 29 January 1846 p 2 Article.)
Election of medical officers to the Sydney Infirmary and ...
Announcement of Dr. McCrae's candidature for the office of Surgeon to the Sydney Infirmary, about to be established, including his testimonials.)
*If I remember the Wentworth House heritage citation, Coiler Robertson was associated with "La Rose'from 1845.)
Did I remember the duel story correctly? I did read it nearly a quarter of a century ago!
Casey Cardinia - links to our past: Eumemmerring Run
Oct 29, 2012 - Foster also, in 1843, challenged Dr McCrae to a pistol duel over a land ... acres (747 hectares) in the Parish of Eumemmerring when he died.
The above website states that Foster held the run till 1842 when the lease was transferred to Edward Wilson (later owner, with the same partner, and editor, of The Argus, who retired because of blindness,to part of the Glengyle estate at Tullamarine which he named Arundel, and established a trust which helped Cr Jack of Flinders Shire to provide the Mornington Peninsula's first motorised ambulance) and James Stewart Johnston (later a prominent politician who established a vineyard on Craiglee at Sunbury.)
It also mentions that Alphabetical's cousin, William Stawell, drafted Victoria's(very squatter-centric) constitution, the author apparently being unaware that Alphabetical was involved as Colonial Secretary, and served as Acting Governor for a year after the ailing Latrobe's resignation.(William Stawell married a daughter of William Pomeroy Greene of Woodlands and Lady Stawell's memoirs can be seen at its historic homestead near Melbourne Airport.)
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I haven't read that much about Dandenong's history, but on this group's website, I thought I'd see if they know CLOW. This is what came up.
Local Family Histories Index
Corner Corrigan Clow Crichton Criddle Crook Cruickshank Crump DDDD Dallimore Dana Dawson De George â¦
LETTERS FROM VICTORIAN PIONEERS.
Mr. James Clow writes:
In the beginning of August 1838,Rev. Mr. Clow took possession of the cattle run, Corhanwarrabul, which was so named after the mountain that formed its north-eastern boundary, but his home-station was at Tirhatuan, that part of the run which is adjacent to the junction of the Narrewong with the Dandenong. Before that period the more eligible portion of the country beyond him had been taken up. Mr. John Highett, he has been informed, was the first settler that crossed the Dandenong with stock, and that he was followed by O'Connor and the Ruffys, and that next after them came Mr. Joseph Hawdon, who may be considered the first that settled on the Dandenong, as those that had preceded him had gone about eight or ten miles to the east of it. He transferred his right to the Dandenong run to Captain Lonsdale, who had Mr. Alfred Langhorne for his overseer at the time Mr. Clow settled at Tirhatuan. Their head station was at the bridge over the creek, where the present township of Dandenong is situated. They had one out-station, Eumemmering, and both of these were transferred to Dr. McCrae in 1839; and shortly afterwards Eumemmering was transferred by him to the Fosters, and by them to Johnston and Wilson, and by them to Mr. Power, by whom it is still held. The Dandenong station was retained by Dr. McCrae
for several years, and then became the property of its present occupant, Mr. R. C. Walker. The run, which
belongs at present to Mr. Charles Wedge, and which is generally known by the name of the Waterholes, was a part of country originally occupied by Mr. Hawdon, and has been since then in the possession of various owners.
Along the Dandenong, on the east side, towards the mountain, and adjacent to Eumemmering, was the Corhanwarrabul run, which was occupied twelve years by Mr. Clow, and transferred by him to Mr. Beilby, its present owner. In 1840 he formed an out-station close to the base of Corhanwarrabul, on one of three rivulets, which fall into a swamp, and which, on issuing from it, at its south-west extremity, compose the Narrewong creek.etc. (P.3, Bacchus Marsh Express,1-8-1903.)
Mr. JAMES CLOW writes:
At the time the Tirhatuan Station was formed, some of the natives expressed a determination to be revenged on one of the servant men. As soon as they saw him there, they recognised him as one whose conduct towards some of their women, before he came into Mr. Clow's service, had given them great offence. He confessed that he had been to blame, and asked for his discharge, which was immediately given him,and he was safely returned to Melbourne. It is probable that, had they had an opportunity, they would have murdered him; but in doing so would they have done more than has been done by many Europeans, though in a more refined way?
Like other savages, they are naturally revengeful, but it is to be fearedthat on too many occasions their
atrocities have not been committed without grievous provocation.
The next settler on the Dandenong was Mr. Thomas Napier, who now resides in the parish of Doutta Galla*. His run, which he took up about October 1839, lay along the western side of the creek, and extended from the Tirhatuan bridge to Scott's bridge.
(*Google STRATHMORE, RAY GIBB, NAPIER for details.)
About a year afterwards he sold it to Mr. Scott, who died in Melbourne before he went to live there; but it was occupied by Mrs. Scott and family for two or three years, when they formed a small station on the other side of the creek, and sold the other to a family of the name of Drew.
It was afterwards subdivided and occupied by a number of small settlers, who were principally employed
in taking timber from that neighbourhood to Melbourne and other places for the purpose of building and the enclosing of purchased land.
Two brothers of the name of Rourke, who were, in the first instance, sawyers on Mrs. Scott's original run, formed the station, which the elder brother still holds near the sources of the Dandenong.
The aboriginal station of Narre Narre Warren was formed by Mr.Assistant Protector Thomas, and is so well known, that it is unnecessary for me to give you any account of it.
(See I SUCCEEDED ONCE by Marie Hansen Fels.)
The first settlers below the Dandenong bridge, and beyond the run belonging to Messrs. Lonsdale and Langhorne, were Mr. Solomon and Major Frazer. The former had his station above the swamp through which the Dandenong passes, and the latter below it on the bay, of Port Phillip.
About six miles in a north-easterly direction from Tirhatuan, on the south side of the principal stream
which descends from the mountain of Corhanwarrabul, and which mainly contributes to form the Narrewong Creek below the swamp, is the sheep station of Monbolloc, which was first occupied by Messrs. Kerr and Dobie. It is small and scrubby,and has passed through many hands since its formation.
On the east of Monbolloc is the small station of Will-Will-Rook,originally formed and still possessed by Mr. Varcoe and his family.
About the month of January 1850,during one night and a part of the succeeding day, an unusual noise,somewhat resembling that of a bush fire at a distance, was heard at Tirhatuan, and at an out-station about three miles off, situated near the Gap in the ranges behind Narre Narre Warren. At the former place it was heard by Mrs. Clow and others living there. She rose in the night time, and looked out to see if any of the huts was on fire; and during the day she went repeatedly into the verandah in front of the house to listen; and as the noise seemed to come from the rises on the west side of the creek, she sent two per(sic) as far as the bridge with a view to ascertain what it was. On their return they said they could not tell, but that when they were at the bridge the noise seemed to be at the house. The overseer happened to come, and she spoke of it to him, but he said that he had not noticed any unusual sound; neither did he then perceive any. He was in a hurry and went off immediately; but, happening to go to the outstation at the Mountain Gap, he was asked by the two men there,
both of whom had resided in the colony only a short time, and were therefore perhaps more liable to be
easily alarmed, whether the fire was coming that way. He said he did not know of any fire. They told him that they had not slept during the night, for they had heard a noise as of a great fire at a distance, and were afraid it was coming in that direction, and that they could still discern it. He was thus forcibly reminded of what he had just before heard, and on going a little way to a rise, he listened, and acknowledged that he could distinctly hear a noise similar to that which had been described, but could not tell what occasioned it.
As heard by Mrs. Clow, the noise was not always the same, but rose and fell, and after dying away for a little would begin again and gradually increase. To some it seemed to be in the air, but the prevailing impression
on her mind at the time, and that to which she is still inclined, is, that it was subterranean. It will perhaps be considered corroborative of this opinion that, on two previous occasions, an earthquake had been distinctly heard and felt there. The first was experienced in February or March 1843. It occurred at midnight, when the moon was full, the sky cloudless, and the wind still. To me and others who heard it at Tirhatuan, the sound was as if a light conveyance, making a sharp rattling noise, had passed rapidly between the house and the kitchen-these buildings being about eight yards apart.
The tremor, though distinctly felt, was not great; but at the outstation, near the base of the mountain, both the shock and the noise were very considerable. The two men sleeping in the hut were instantly roused, and ran out to ascertain what was the matter; but neither seeing nor hearing anything unusual, they conjectured what had happened; and as the shock was experienced in the same manner at Rourke's station, about five miles off, it would appear that it was severest along the base of the mountain.
To be continued.(P.3, Bacchus Marsh Express, 24-10-1903.)
Mr. James Clow writes:
The aborigines of this island consider that when they can compass the death of a friend or foe by stratagem instead of in open warfare it enhances their standing as skilful warriors according to their notions of one. Previously to the country which lies on the Western side of the bay of Western Port (between what was at one time Manton's and Allan's run) being occupied by squatters in the year 1835, the Gippsland blacks attackedsome five-and-twenty of the Western Port tribe in the gray(sic) of the morning, and cut off every one of them. Their tombs consist of many cairns plainly visible to this day.
When I went to reside at Dandenong in 1838, the blacks told me of the occurrence, and that they never had been able to avenge the wrong. Shortly after I settled amongst them I gave "Jack Weatherly," one of the tribe, a double-barrelled gun to procure for me the lyre-bird. He was employed occasionally in this way when opportunity offered, and with practice became a very good shot. One day, without my expressing a wish for any more of the
birds, he applied for a much larger supply of powder and shot than I had formerly given him at one time,
stating that a large party of his tribe were going to procure lyrebirds, and promising me, after four or five days, no end of curiosities in the shape of birds of the air and denizens of the forest. As he had always satisfactorily accounted for what he had before, I gave him it without reluctance. The days lapsed into weeks,when he stalked up to the station, evidently elated with some success, which he was not long in telling me.
After getting the powder, he went to council of war which was being held to take into consideration the glorious opportunity now presented to the tribe of avenging the onslaught I have alluded to above. The old men, who always shut their eyes and stopped their ears when they saw a gun being fired off, decreed that the powder and shot which had just been received from the various squatters on the ostensible plea of procuring lyre-birds, &c., should,by Jack Weatherly (who was appointed leader of the expedition) and those of his compeers who were proficient in the use of their guns, be buried in the skins of the wild blackfellows as they termed them
(to show them the new mode of warfare they had adopted, and thus to prevent a recurrence of their visits)-wild in contradistinction to the life of amity they themselves led with the white men.
After four days' march through the barren mountains which separate Western Port District from Gippsland, they on the fifth day sighted the smoke of some blacks' fires on the skirts of the beautiful pastoral district there. On the following day, about mid-day, they surprised the camp, making prisoners of all in it, which consisted only of some old men and some children. They then went in search of the able-bodied men, whom they espied very busily engaged in fishing on the banks of a large river not far off. They managed to sneak upon them within ten or twenty yards, and then blazed into them, killing or severely wounding every one of them, seven in number. Those who escaped the first volley jumped into the river and swam across, but the second volley brought them all down.
After cutting out their kidney fat, they took as much of the carcases as they could well carry on their return route, and having mustered their forces at the camp where they had captured the old men and children, they despatched them also, and then commenced their retreat. When they reached the first station on the Western Port side of the mountains, they still had portions of the legs and thighs of their enemies, which they had not consumed, but reserved for those of the tribe who were not present. Many maintain that the aborigines are not cannibals. They are not cannibals for the love of human flesh, but there are occasions when they do eat their enemies, as in the present instance, where they did it to render, according to their notions, the deed of retaliation more complete, and under an impression that partaking of the flesh of an enemy tended to confirm hatredand foster a passion for fresh deeds of vengeance. (P.4, Bacchus Marsh Express, 26-3-1904.)
To be completed as time allows.
CAN PARISH MAPS BE WRONG? OH YES THEY CAN.
Anyone can make a mistake and copyists in the Lands Department could be excused for accidentally writing 297 instead of 279 when there is so much,often microscopic, detail to copy. That's what seems to have happened to crown allotment 4,section 3, parish of Kangerong, Robert Caldwell's "Dromana Hill",later known as Fairy Vineyard.
POSTSCRIPT. Boundary dimensions were given in links(hundredths of a chain or 20.1168 centimetres) and were written in almost microscopic numerals.These would have been clear enough on original paper maps unless a copyist had slightly smudged them, but in a photocopy of a photocopy the number of links seems to be different every time you look at it or change the angle of the magnifying glass. I have stated below that the southern boundary of crown allotment 4, section 3, Kangerong was 2258 links,but the online map showed that it was 3500 links. As a result the area of this allotment is probably correct.
The following was originally written in an email about Tar Barrel Corner but is deemed to warrant a journal.
I called in on Keith Holmes while I was at Bentons Square and in the short time available before he headed off to get laser treatment on his eyes, I showed him the comments under my post 1940 and Back To journal re the date and venue because he had not yet been contacted about it. Seems very keen and was looking forward to reading the three Cleine comments with his newly lasered eyes after his appointment.
I thought I had read that Keith's wife, Shirley,was a McIlroy*,so I checked and found that she was a Burston. Keith answered in the affirmative when I asked if she was related to George Burston and added that George had a house in Dromana.
*I had read it, not in a dream or Hill 'n' Ridge as I had thought but in an email about the location of some former hill and ridge residents and I quote:
Back again xxx,
Just a few thoughts that I hope may be helpful. I think that Keith Holmes wife Shirley may have been a McIlroy, but not sure.
I am sure that Hec Hanson mentioned the Burstons in MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN. (There's an index at the end.)
In the Shire of Flinders rate record of 1919- 1920, George Burston of Fitzroy was assessed on land in the central riding as follows:
189 acres part c/a 4, s(section) 3K (Kangerong); 80 acres c/a 25 c W (Wannaeue); 440 acres c/a 28A and 28B.
In the West Riding, George was assessed on:
268 acres part c/a 1, 2, section B,W. and 100 acres part c/a 2, section B, W.
Description of George Burston's land.
In 1919-20,George had apparently not yet bought his house in Dromana. In 1875, the rate record of the newly formed shire of Flinders and Kangerong consisted of about 10 pages at the most but by 1919 many farms had been subdivided and Dromana (town) residents were listed on pages 102 to 112 with the Kangerong Estate on page 113 and central riding farms from page 114 to 134 where the Dromana Estate started.
CROWN ALLOTMENT 4, SECTION 3, KANGERONG (Melway 159 J-K 9-12.189 acres part c/a 4, s(section)3 K.)
Consisting of 297 acres 2 roods and 29 perches, this was granted to Robert Caldwell (after whom Caldwell Rd was named) who also received the grant to crown allotment 10B.
Crown allotment 4 was bounded on the west by the wedge shaped town common, cum gravel reserve, (which ran from a spot over Boundary Rd from Jetty Rd to Arthurs Seat Rd. The remaining vestige of the wedge shape of this reserved land, now part of Arthurs Seat State Park, can be seen in Melway 159 H-J 11-12 . The width and southern extent of c/a 4 was exactly that of the quarry property shaded grey. The c/a 6 grants of "Simon the Belgian" as Colin McLear put it,(H.B.Simon, after whom Simon's Cutting was named) fronted the road reserve south of the quarry land.
Crown allotment 4 also contained the streets east of Hillview Quarry Rd to about 205 Boundary Rd. This estate was possibly subdivided by Dromana's whirlwind Progress Association president, Spencer Jackson, ,judging by the name of Jacksons Way, after his sales of the Foreshore Estate (on Lou Carrigg's former Racecourse and footy ground land behind the Dromana Hotel) and the Panorama Estate (where streets names indicated a view of Mt Macedon and the You Yangs) in 1927.
Which portion of c/a 4 did George own or occupy. Its Boundary Rd frontage was 4000 links(half a mile or 800 metres but because of the wedge shape of the gravel reserve,the southern boundary was 2258 links*.The depth of c/a 4 was 8100 links. The depth of the estate is 35 chains (3500 links) and the boundary between the estate and the grey quarry land is 39 chains. The depth of the estate (3500 links) multiplied by its mean width (3950 links) gives a result of 136.5 acres.
(*As stated in the POSTSCRIPT above, the southern boundary was 3500 links, not 2258 so the surveyor's very complicated calculation of crown allotment 3 is probably very close to the mark. Alterationsin thecalculation are in bold type.
The quarry land has a mean depth of 4650 links (half of the sum of 4500 links and 4800 links) and a mean width of 3700 links (half of the sum of 3900+ 3500). Length by width gives a result of 172 acres. If we add these two calculated areas, there is a total of 308 acres, about 10 acres MORE than stated on the parish map..*
However it is clear that George had land in both present portions of crown allotment 4. Were the streets named after counties and Anne named because of George Burston, Spencer Jackson or some later owner?
* It is possible that the surveyor wrongly calculated the area of crown allotment 4 (called Dromana Hill by Robert Caldwell and Fairy Vineyard by coachbuilders Elliot and Stevenson). The town common and c/a 4 form a rectangle adjoining the east boundary of "Gracefield" (Bryan's Cutting.) The northern boundary was 6 chains (the common) plus 40 chains ("Dromana Hill") making a total of 46 chains. The depth was fairly constant at 81 chains. This gives an area of 372.6 acres.
As stated, the combined calculated area of the town common and Dromana Hill was 372.6 acres. The online map describes the town common as crown allotment 4A but does not give its acreage. Relying on my paper map is risky but it does seem to describe the gravel reserve as consisting of 91 acres and two roods. If we deduct this from the combined 372.6 acres, the acreage of Dromana Hill would seem to be 281.1 acres, fairly close to the total of the housing estate and Hillview Quarry land (279.7 acres) and far short of the 297 acres on the parish map.
CROWN ALLOTMENT 25c WANNAEUE.(80 acres c/a 25 c W .)
This (sort of)triangular allotment, consisting of 79a. 2r. 16p, was granted to the Freehold, Investment and Banking Company of Aust. on 25-6-1905. Across Purves Rd from Seawinds and fronting Arthurs Seat Rd.,it is indicated by Melway 171 F-G1 and some of F2.
CROWN ALLOTMENTS 28a AND 28b, WANNAEUE. (440 acres c/a 28A and 28B.)
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