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MATTHEW FLINDERS' BIOGRAPHY, WRITTEN BY A CHILD, EDITH TAINTON OF ASHBY STATE SCHOOL, IN 1928. (GEELONG, VIC., AUST.)
Some historians tend to be a bit pompous in their writing but this young girl's story was a delight to read.
LIFE OF FLINDERS
It was found by chance in a Newberry search on trove and I hope that you enjoy it as much as I did.
Wikipedia is very good at pinpointing the locations of old Victorian place names.
Geelong West, Victoria - Wikipedia
Ashby was once a suburb of Geelong located in the area of Geelong West, west of Latrobe Terrace, between Aberdeen Street and Church Street. By 1850 this area had become known as Little Scotland, and Kildare. At this point, Ashby referred to the area between Autumn Street and Waratah Street. In 1875, the entire ...
HISTORY OF ASHBY PRIMARY SCHOOL
HOW OLD WAS EDITH TAINTON WHEN SHE WROTE HER PRIZE-WINNING ESSAY?
I found the answer quick smart. If Edith was still at State School she was most likely in Grade 8, the last grade,and an absolute certainty to gain her merit certificate. She would be about fourteen years old but to be on the safe side, I searched for her birth record between 1913 and 1915.
EventBirth Event registration number22384 Registration year1914
Family nameTAINTON Given namesEdith Marianne SexUnknown Father's nameChas Albt Mother's nameUna Blanche (Thurrowgood) Place of birthGEELONG
A BIT OF EDUCATION HISTORY.
Little Athletics rewards every child for having a go and is mirrored today by almost automatic promotion from grade to grade at Primary Schools, on the basis that social and intellectual development is more likely if the child is with age peers. In the old days children had to earn their promotion from grade to grade with the result that there seem to be giants in old class photos. The greatest aim of most pupils was to gain the Merit Certificate before leaving school at 14 to work in a reasonably interesting job guaranteed by it. Those who missed out, still in grade 6 when they turned 14, became factory fodder. However some sympathy was shown in some decisions about awarding the certificate, and by the greatest coincidence this example features another Ashby State School pupil.
Another pupil of the Ashby State School, Fred Cowling, in addition to the nine who received their certificates on Monday last, has been successful in obtaining his card: - The youth, who is about to leave school had missed the certificate by half a- mark, but on fresh perusal of the examination papers these showed general proficiency; and when the attention of the inspector (Mr. A. B. Rowe) was drawn to the fact he immediately recognised the justice of the claim, and made the award. (P.3, Geelong Advertiser, 22-9-1911.)
By about 1911, several High Schools started as Higher Elementary Schools so that those who had gained their Merit could continue their education and thus the first intake was in form 3. Later grades 7 and 8 in State Schools were replaced by forms 1 and 2 in schools central to regions and thus called Central Schools.
Successful students at Ashby State School such as Enid might have gone to a private school but Enid had another option.
GEELONG HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY
In the early 1900's schooling was compulsory for children 6 - 14 years at State Primary Schools. For those who couldn't afford private education, there was nowhere they could continue their education until they were 17 and could attend the Gordon Technical College. In 1909 community concern grew for this gap to be filled and this saw the establishment of a Continuation School to provide an academic education for trainee teachers and a general education for those wishing to go on to the Gordon.
On February 8 1910, 79 students together with eight teachers and an Acting Headmaster, began classes in a couple of disused rooms at the Gordon. John William Gray was appointed Headmaster in April with an annual salary of £345 ($690.00). Twelve months later, enrolments has increased to 150 and 12 rooms were being used at the Gordon. The school was renamed the Geelong High School and so became Geelong's first State Secondary School.
Edith was only about seven years old when her mother died.
TAINTON. - On the 24th February, 1921, at private hospital, Geelong, Una Blanche,the dearly loved wife of Charles Albert Tainton, of 35 Clarence Street, Geelong West, and devoted mother of Stanley, Una and Edie, and loved sister of Minnie(Mrs. Nicholls), of Leopold, and Nellie(Mrs Cuddy) W.A. Aged 40 years.
(P.1, Geelong Advertiser, 25-2-1921.)
Una would have been born in about 1881. Her maiden name was Saunders but she may have been Mrs Thurrowgood when she married Charles in 1909*.
EventDeath Event registration number1787 Registration year1921
Family nameTAINTON Given namesUna Blanche SexFemale Father's nameSAUNDERS James Mother's nameMary Ann (Harrison) Place of birth Place of deathGEELONG Age40
*EventMarriage Event registration number2868 Registration year1909
Family nameTAINTON Given namesChas Albt SexUnknown Spouse's family nameTHURROWGOOD Spouse's given namesUna Blanche
Edith's father almost certainly died in 1928 leaving Edith an orphan. He drowned in Corio Bay. There was no death notice.Edith was only about 14.
EventDeath Event registration number14915 Registration year1928
Family nameTAINTON Given namesCharles Albert SexMale Father's nameTAINTON Richard Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathGEELONG Age60
CORIO BAY DROWNING
He was a widower and lived with his two children
A POETIC BENT.SHIPS
Her crossword puzzle at age 17. CROSSWORD
This is just a sample of Edith's contributions to newspapers, her address written as 17 Preston St., Geelong West. The big question is who was looking after her. Did she have to leave school after her father's death?
No wonder I saw no mention of the academic success I'd expected to find. How sad!
THEY STARTED THEIR MARRIED LIFE IN DROMANA!
EventDeath Event registration number14401 Registration year1911
Family nameROWLEY Given namesRobt SexUnknown Father's nameRowley Jas Mother's nameElizth (King) Place of birth Place of deathPt Nepean Age89
EventDeath Event registration number12094 Registration year1924
Family nameROWLEY Given namesChristina SexFemale Father's nameEDWARDS William Mother's nameElizth (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathSORRENTO Age88
By the Rev. J. Smithies, at the House of
Mr. Joseph Tongs, Illawarra, Christina Ed-
wards, the only daughter of Mr. William Ed-
wards of Newborough, Fife, Scotland, to Mr.
Robert Rowley, of Dromana, Victoria.
(P.2, Launceston Examiner, 1-1-1861.)
Distance from Illawarra, Tasmania to Longford, Tasmania?
4 min (4.0 km) via Illawarra Rd/B52 and B51
DROMANA- BORN CHILDREN.
EventBirth Event registration number5104 Registration year1862
Family nameROWLEY Given namesElizabeth SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristia (Edwards) Place of birthDROM
EventBirth Event registration number14380 Registration year1866
Family nameROWLEY Given namesMary Christina SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthDROMANA
(Robert Rowley was working at Dromana for Peter Pidoto who married Frances Taylor. Mary Christina married the brother of Frances, William Taylor Jnr., if I remember correctly.
EventMarriage Event registration number4442 Registration year1883
Family nameTAYLOR Given namesWilliam SexMale Spouse's family nameROWLEY Spouse's given namesMary Christina)
WHILE ON RYE FORESHORE OR ON SELECTION ON WEST SIDE OF TRUEMANS RD.
EventBirth Event registration number10773 Registration year1863
Family nameROWLEY Given namesFrank SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristian (Edwards) Place of birthVICT* (SEE DEATH RECORD)
(*EventDeath Event registration number21428 Registration year1948
Family nameROWLEY Given namesFrancis SexMale Father's nameROWLEY Robert Mother's nameChristina (Edward) Place of birthRYE Place of deathSALE Age85)
EventBirth Event registration number21465 Registration year1864
Family nameROWLEY Given namesWilliam SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthTOOT
EventBirth Event registration number5965 Registration year1868
Family nameROWLEY Given namesRichard SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthTOOTGAROOK
EventBirth Event registration number25484 Registration year1869
Family nameROWLEY Given namesRobenea SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthTOOTGAROOK
EventBirth Event registration number26808 Registration year1871
Family nameROWLEY Given namesMargaret SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthTOOT
EventBirth Event registration number27642 Registration year1873
Family nameROWLEY Given namesJames SexUnknown Father's nameRobt Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthTOOTGAROOK
EventBirth Event registration number19965 Registration year1875
Family nameROWLEY Given namesEmma SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthTOOT
EventBirth Event registration number5750 Registration year1877
Family nameROWLEY Given namesRobert SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthTOOTGAROOK
EventBirth Event registration number19645 Registration year1878
Family nameROWLEY Given namesJohn SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthTO OT
EventBirth Event registration number6049 Registration year1881
Family nameROWLEY Given namesMartha Rebekah SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristian (Edwards) Place of birthTOO
EventBirth Event registration number27002 Registration year1883
Family nameROWLEY Given namesAdeline Maude SexUnknown Father's nameRobert Mother's nameChristina (Edwards) Place of birthTOOT
ALFRED SILVESTER COULD NOT MAINTAIN THE ILLUSION OF BEING FAITHFUL SO LOUISA WAS A RESIDENT OF DROMANA, VIC., AUST. BY 1890.
A NAME IN A LIST ISN'T MUCH GOOD FOR FAMILY HISTORIANS! YOU WON'T FIND ANY MENTION OF LOUISA SILVESTER IN ANY PUBLISHED MORNINGTON PENINSULA HISTORY.
In 1890, the Sorrento 3rd 20 travelled to Rosebud to play an AUSTRALIAN RULES football match against Rosebud Union, a team comprised of players who were probably too old or too young to get a game in Dromana's team. Rosebud was a sleepy little fishing village and probably didn't have enough males to form a football team of its own. It had a jetty but only small vessels could berth there while the big excursion steamers could do so at Dromana and the Queen of watering places, Coppin's Sorrento. Income derived from the lengthy "Season" sustained many guest houses and provided employment out of season for those who maintained the summer houses of the wealthy at Sorrento. Sorrento had several hotels and Dromana had two until the Arthurs Seat Hotel burnt down in early 1898. Many of the humble pioneering Sorrento locals earned money during the season as cab drivers, servants, working in stores, and even slumming it over summer or Easter so their houses could be let to holiday makers, deriving probably half their yearly income. Dromana residents such as Susan Peatey and Julia Clydesdale found employment at the town's hotels as early as the late 1860's but there were fewer SUMMER HOUSES there and the only documented case of employment at one is that of Godfrey Wilson's future wife, Maria Stenniken, (whose father,Ben of Rye, leased land on the Survey.) Maria worked at the summer house of John Vans Agnew Bruce on his Brokil Estate (between today's Mount Martha Waterway-Tassells Creek- and Bruce Rd.)
Thus it can be seen why Sorrento had three teams, Dromana one and Rosebud could not form a team of its own.
SORRENTO 3RDS V. ROSEBUD UNION
EXTRACT FROM THE MATCH REPORT.
The game terminated thus :Rosebud 5 goals 6 behinds, Sorrento nil. The goal. kickers were Rudduck 2, Lawrence; Souter and, Fred Salva 1 each. In addition to these :Peters,Silvester, Jamieson, Watson and Thomson played well, whilst Joe Cain,Sutton, Salva, Watson, Riley and Griffiths worked hard to avert disaster,
NOT MUCH FOR A SILVESTER FAMILY HISTORIAN TO GO ON IS IT?
As I had not seen the name in connection with Rosebud and could not find one on trove, I tried SILVESTER, DROMANA and with one result- and another search for LOUISA SILVESTER (with one result also) to determine roughly when the separation took place- WHAT A STORY EMERGED!
Rosebud Union's SYLVESTER was probably a teenager, son of Alfred and Louisa Silvester who had arrived in Melbourne in November 1874 and performed all over as illusionists, including at Geraldton, W.A. where Alfred fell into intemperate habits, apparently with a performer named Annie Sefton rather than alcohol, causing a separation and Louisa Sarah Anne Silvester, of Dromana, music teacher sued for divorce about a year after the football match. She was granted custody of the three children.
DETAILS OF ALFRED AND LOUISA'S NATIVE PLACES, DATE AND AGES WHEN MARRIED AND OTHER DETAILS NOT INCLUDED IN MY SUMMARY.
The visit to Geraldton and subsequent separation must have occurred during the 1880's because the couple had three children by 1891 and was still performing together in 1879*. Most female performers probably gave the illusion of being single so the male members of the audience would not feel guilty about ogling them. Louisa was almost certainly Alfred's wife because any daughter, if legitimate, would have been 5 years old or less. Nellie was probably Arthur's wife too.
*The Silvester and Vivian entertainment attracted a good house to the Fitzroy Town Hall on Saturday evening. Hadji Mahommed Sahib, an illusionist, made his first appearance, and created a favorable impression. A racy little comedy by Miss Nellie Vivian and Mr.Silvester's cabinet seance,Masks and Faces by Miss Louisa Silvester, and some comic characters by Arthur Vivian were very deservedly applauded. (Near end of P.3, The Age, 17-3-1879.)
1879 PERFORMANCE AT FITZROY
TROVE'S QUIRKY WAYS LED ME BACK TO MY FAVOURITE MORNINGTON PENINSULA PIONEER, S.S.CRISPO.
Trove serving me HOVER when I ordered HOVE led me to an article about the Rosebud Union footy team of 1890, which I had been trying to relocate for years. Ironically, I'd been trying to work out why the part of Eastbourne Rd., east of the Mornington Peninsula Freeway had been renamed as Hove Road.
Crispo was not only a terrific entertainer; being a bachelor, he had plenty of time to dream up his brainwaves, such as AMALGAMATE, DON'T FEDERATE and Rosebud West becoming Australia's capital named FEDERANIUM, and write countless letters to the editor detailing them. I thought I'd read every one of his letters until I was researching Silvester, one of the Rosebud Union players in 1890, and Mr Trove thought I'd ordered SILVER!
"IN MEMORIUM", probably written by Ned Williams, the new owner of "Eastbourne" at whose residence Crispo died in 1899,(or Ned's daughter, Cassie, whose grave at Rye is directly opposite Crispo's) might give you a clue why I call Crispo the Peninsula's Don Quixote.
Small space I crave from you kind sir,
A dead friend's worth to sing ;
Small tribute to his kindly deeds,
A kindly requiem.
God bless thee, Crispo, in thy bed,
With ti-tree blossoms strewn;
God rest the weary heart and head,
For me, all gone too soon.
What though thy brain with fancy teemed,
Fostered and led by fools;
What though thy airy castles gleamed,
Fashioned by dreamland's tools.
Beneath the haze of fancy's dreams,
A kindly heart and true;
An honest hand and steadfast will,
To fight life's battle through.
Take then thy well-earned rest, old friend,
Short space of time, and we
May meet thee on that brighter shore,
Au revoir S. S. C.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 19-10-1899.)
SILVER AS A LEGAL. TENDER.
TO THE EDITOR OF THE AGE.
SIR,— When.staying with Mr. Wm. Stephen,
acting chief inspector of stock, he advocated the
making of silver a legal tender in place of gold.
The effect of this would be the releasing from
the banks a large quantity of gold for circula-
tion and the deposit in the banks of an immense
quantity of silver. To meet the withdrawal
of the silver it would be necessary to coin
millions of pounds worth of silver, and as a
consequence the price of silver would rise in
value, At present silver is becoming a drug in
the market as compared to gold. The idea
broached by Mr. Stephen appears to be the only
one that will solve the difficulty. It would be
of great advantage to Australia if this should
happen. I would advocate the coining of a
large number of five and ten shilling ooins, and
also one pound coins, in silver. — Yours, &c.,
S. S. CRISPO,
Eastbourne, Rosebud, 10th May.
(P.6, The Age, 15-3-1893.)
Crispo's idea of conveying passengers up the bay, as described in LIME LAND LEISURE could be described as fanciful but others were ingenious, such as life rafts instead of lifeboats (which were often swamped), and AMALGAMATE DON'T FEDERATE (following the Canadian model) which would have eliminated the cost and bickering caused by having three levels of Government. Obviously the Governor, Lord Brassey, was as fascinated by Crispo as I am because he unsuccessfully tried to visit Eastbourne- an amusing tale!
A VICE REGAL STORY
I'd had no idea about how long it took for silver to become legal tender.
So thanks to Mr Trove for his little boo boo.
The details of this will were found by chance (in the second result for a trove search for "WILLIAM BENNETT WRIGHT", limited to Victoria.)W.B.Wright most likely farmed the part of today's Keilor Park, Melbourne, near Wright's Rd. (Melway 15 A 5-6.)
I have previously written journals about Henry Dunn of Mornington and Edmund Dunn of "Viewpoint", Tullamarine being brothers, and Edmund being an early pioneer of the Mornington Peninsula. John, William, Charles, Richard and George were also brothers of these two and have not been mentioned by researchers in connection with Henry and Edmund.
Genealogy makes my head spin; that's why I generally stick to local history. I still haven't got old Tom Wright and young Tom Wright, who lived across Old Broadmeadows Rd (now Mickleham Rd) at Tullamarine from each other, sorted out. Several families, such as Alston & Jenkins and possibly Harrap and Bennett, were pioneers in both areas- near Tullamarine and Mornington. Therefore I will just provide the link for the will which should be of benefit to family historians who have more understanding of the family trees of the families mentioned.
N.B. Moonee Ponds meant near the Moonee Ponds Creek and between today's Strathmore Heights and Westmeadows, Camp Hill (later Gowanbrae), Edmund Dunn's "Viewpoint" and my great grandfather, John Cock's leased "Gladstone" extended east to The Moonee Ponds Creek. Henry and Edmund Dunn had both died in 1891. As the print in the article was so clear, I didn't bother checking the digitisation.
On reading the article again, I notice that John was described as a resident of Mount Barber (digitised as Mt Barker.) In this case I believe that the digitisation is correct and the typesetter had made a mistake, based on so many family members living at Mt. Barker. A google search for Mt. Barber, South Australia produced no results. Believe is a word that should be avoided in history so I checked text corrections and discovered that Mt. Barber had been changed to Mt Barker by a descendant of John Dunn's daughter, Elizabeth Paltridge.
(2 years ago mpaltridge)
JOHN DUNN'S WILL
M'NAB--M'MILLAN -On the 31st October at the bride's uncle's residence, Hillside, Tullamarine by the Rev. T. Edwards, Angus, eldest son of Duncan McNab, Esq., Kinnell, Muir-street Hawthorn to Elizabeth, fourth daughter of Mr James McMillan,Nagambie. (P.1, Argus, 19-1-1895.)
Thanks to the endeavours of Neil Hamilton Mansfield we find why a McMillan marriage was conducted at Hillside.
1937 SHARP James 87Y 00/00/1829 08/12/1916 08/12/1916 Presb. 2 31 Son of James Sharp & Agnes McMillan. Died in Keilor, Victoria, Australia.
1939 SHARP (nee CLARK) Mary 93Y 00/00/1827 07/04/1920 07/04/1920 Presb. 2 31 Daughter of James Clark & Mary Langwill. Died in Keilor, Victoria, Australia.
In about 1860, Maurice Crotty married Miss McCormack after working for Thomas Brannigan at St Johns on the west side of the south end of Konagaderra Rd (see Melway map 385.) The McCormacks had a farm called "Chesterfield" south of the east end of Annandale Rd, extending west to Lambeck Court and the newlyweds leased "The Springs" across Fosters Rd (now Keilor Park Drive.) In 1867, Mrs Crotty wrote in a letter that someone had purchased part of their farm.(Information from Glenn Cotchen, a Crotty descendant and researcher.)
The purchaser was James Sharp who in 1863 had been leasing part of "Chandos", a 467 acre property fronting Broadmeadows Rd (now Mickleham Rd) from just south of Freight Rd to the Moonee Ponds Creek and extending west to Derby St and Wright St (now Springbank St south of the freeway.)
The portion of section 21 Doutta Galla that he'd bought was 133 acres fronting the south side of Sharps Rd from about 70 metres west of Allied Drive to a southern continuation of Broadmeadows Rd. (Volume 176, folio 786.) Hillside later became Carinya, owned by the Thomas family and it is thought that Thomas St, Airport West may have been its eastern boundary*. Barrie Road on Sharps' purchase was named after Barrie Thomas.
THOMAS.—On November 16 at his parents'residence, Sharpes road, Tullamarine, Barry Raymond, dearly loved youngest
child of Mr. and Mrs. Stan Thomas, and loved brother of Cecil, aged 4 years and 7 months.—A little sufferer, in God's care. (P.9, Argus, 18-11-1947.) OBITUARY-https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/74776584
* By 1917, Hillside consisted of about 336 acres and adjoined Spring Park, which had recently been sold. I believe that the DIAGONAL adjoining was at the south east corner of Hillside (and today's Etzel Reserve) and the north west corner of Spring Park (and today's Hansen Reserve.) Spring Park, bisected by McNamara Avenue, fronted the north side of Keilor Rd between "Niddrie" (Treadwell Rd west to Grange Rd) and "Springfield" (west from Mirriam Court to the Roberts Road corner. Hillside actually directly adjoined "Springfield" but this became part of the estate sold by E.Roberts in 1915.
The term SPRING PARK ESTATE changed in meaning between 1909 and 1917. Following the death of William Johnson in 1909, his Spring Park Estate, and Springfield, were consolidated by E.Roberts, developer, into the SPRING PARK ESTATE which was auctioned as 44 farmlets of 6-10 acres and 31 acres containing the Spring Park mansion. Roberts Rd would have provided access to most of the 45 farmlets.
By Order of Mr. E. Roberts.SPRING PARK ESTATE
HILLSIDE HAD BEEN LARGELY LEASED OUT FOR SOME TIME, WITH JAMES AND MARY SHARP OCCUPYING ONLY THE HOMESTEAD ON 8 ACRES. THE REDDANS WERE ON HILLSIDE WHEN THE ALBION-JACANA RAILWAY LINE WAS BEING BUILT CIRCA 1928 AND THE HAY HARVEST WAS SO GREAT, YOU COULD HARDLY DRIVE BETWEEN THE STOOKS ACCORDING TO THE CROTTYS. IN 1917, P.R.JOHNSON'S LONG LEASE HAD ENDED. P.R.JOHNSON
FARM to LET, for Three or Five Years.-By
order of the Union Trustees of Australia Ltd ,
that Splendid FARM, so long occupied by the late
James Sharp, at Tullamarine, comprising about
336 acres, good permanent water, situated about
9 miles from Melbourne, and adjoining Spring
Park Estate, which was recently sold by auction
at very high prices; good agricultural or sheep
fattening property, handy for market dealer. For
JOHN RAMSAY and SON,
317 Collins street (P.14, Argus, 3-2-1917.)
THE TWO VICTORIA BANKS.
Section 8 Tullamarine fronted the east side of McNabs Rd from the bottom of Melway 4 H9 north to Grants Lane at the bottom of 4 G5, extending east for a mile (8 cm on Melway.) John Grant was granted the northern 320 acres which he called Seafield and two McNab brothers shared the southern 320 acres, Duncan's Victoria Bank of 160 acres being between Seafield and Oakbank.
The 1888 biography of Angus McNab in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS: PAST AND PRESENT details how his father, Duncan, had moved away and Angus had returned to establish Victoria Bank. This was a 93 acre property once occupied by Agnes Ritchie between Barbiston Rd (the proposed future runway) and Aucholzie. An army ordnance map wrongly labelled David Mansfield's "Roseleigh" on the south side of Mansfield Rd as Victoria Bank but Neil Hamilton Mansfield and I helped Gary Vines to understand the mistake during his archealogical study.
The second Victoria Bank was later owned by journalist, C.P.Blom. By 1988 the farm had been subdivided into small farms, the homestead block, named Rosebank being owned by the Courtney-Shaws who had a beautiful garden which would have pleased Blom's daughters when they paid a visit to their old farm.
The joy of the arrival of their first child, a son,on 8-10-1895, was fleeting.
McNAB. -On the 10th inst., at Victoria Bank, Tullamarine, Duncan James, the dearly beloved son of Angus and Elizabeth McNab, aged 4 months.(P.1, Argus,13-2-1896.)
McNAB. —On September 26, Elizabeth, of 23 Keilor road, North Essendon, beloved wife of the late Angus McNab, and loving mother of Duncan (deceased), Victoria*,Jessie and Margaret. (P.11, Argus, 27-9-1956.)
McNAB.— The Funeral of the late Mrs. ELIZABETH McNAB will leave our parlors, cnr. Buckley street and Leslie road, Essendon, TOMORROW (Friday), after a service commencing at 1.45 p.m., for the Fawkner Crematorium.
(P.11, Argus, 27-9-1956.)
*John McNab died at Elizabeth's house, 23 Keilor Rd. His obituaries record his birth at the first Victoria Bank,his being the brother of Angus, and name his father's property near Lilydale. The notice of application to administer his estate gives Victoria's full name, recalling the SHARP-McNAB CONNECTION, which has never been previously mentioned.
The funeral of Mr. John McNab, one
of the founders of the Yarra Glen and
Lilydale Hunt Club, and a member of
the well-known family of breeders of Ayr-
shire cattle in Victoria, took place last
week at the Campbellfield Cemetery.
His death occurred on Wednesday,
February 5, at the home of his
sister-in-law, Mrs. E. McNab, Keilor,
Essendon. Mr. McNab was the second
son of the late Mr. Duncan McNab,
who came to Victoria from Scotland-in
1839, and of the late Mrs. Margaret McNab*.
He was born at Victoria Bank, Tulla-
marine, in 1858, and was educated at
Scotch College. For many years he lived
on the property of his father, Green Point,
Yarra Glen. He farmed also at Tulla-
marine, and owned a property at Yanna-
than, Gippsland. In the days when he
hunted with the Yarra Glen and Lilydale
Hunt Club he was a fearless rider. (P.10, The Australasian, 15-2-1936.)
(* Nee Grant.)
MR. JOHN McNAB.
The death occurred at the home of his sister-in-law yesterday of Mr.John McNab, one of the best known Ayrshire cattle breeders in the State. Mr. McNab and his brother Angus conducted Greenpoint Estate, Lilydale, and also Victorian Bank, Tullamarine. Mr. John McNab who has been living in retirement for 16 years was not married.
(P.4, Shepparton Advertiser, 6-2-1936.)
AFTER the expiration of fourteen days from
publication hereof application will be made to
the Supreme Court of Victoria In Its Probate Juris
diction that PROBATE of the WILL (dated the
14th day of June 1928) and a Codicil thereto
(dated the 5th day of April 1935) of JOHN McNAB
late of Keilor road North Essendon In the State
of Victoria Gentleman deceased may be granted
to Elizabeth McNab widow Jessie Williamena
McNab (in the said will called Jessie Wilhelmina
McNab) and Mary Victoria Sharp McNab (In the
sald codicil called Mary Victoria McNab) spinsters
all of Keilor road North Essendon aforesaid the
exécutrices appointed by the said will and codicil
Dated the 29th day of February 1936
McNAB &. MCNAB of 454 Collins street
Melbourne, and at Kilmore.(P.1, Argus, 2-3-1936.)
THE FARM THAT MADE ME A LOCAL HISTORIAN IN 1988.
Messrs. A.E.Gibson and Co. report having sold,on behalf of Mr.G.E.Woods (sic, Wood), his farm at Overnewton, Tullamarine, containing 114 acres, to Mr Alfred Cock, of Broadmeadows. (P. 5, Argus, 17-10-1912.)
See: Parish of Tullamarine, County of Bourke [cartographic material ...
It is apt that the cover photo shows my great uncle's farm on Melway map 15 which is coloured yellow south of Annandale Road and contains the road to the radio masts in 15 A2.
Sharps Rd was the boundary between the parishes of Doutta Galla (south) and Tullamarine (north.) This boundary extended west to the Maribyrnong River just south of the historic Arundel bridge with the river to the west continuing as the boundary between the parishes of Tullamarine and Maribyrnong, enclosing the part of the ARUNDEL closer settlement accessed via Browns Road.
The yellow frontage on the south side of Annandale NORTH of the line of Sharps Rd was that of the 114 acre 2 roods 31 perches of lot 10 of the ARUNDEL Closer Settlement which was mainly in section 2 Tullamarine (Annandale) but also included the quarry as the Arundel Creek was the boundary between lots 10 and 11. The boundary between section 1 (Arundel) and Annandale is indicated by the Annandale Rd bend at the right hand side of Melway 14 K1.
William Taylor of Overnewton, (homestead, Melway !4 A4) was granted much land to the west, such as today's Taylors Lakes, but also later purchased Arundel and Annandale. After his death much of his estate was resumed by the Crown with his land west of the river becoming the Overnewton Closer Settlement and that in the parish of Tullamarine becoming the Arundel Closer Settlement.
The eastern 330 acres of Annandale were not part of the closer settlement and became two 165 acre farms east of the start of Steeles Creek occupied by Thomas Nash and Bill Parr.
The part of Alf Cock's Glenview shaded yellow in Melway 15 A2 (bottom half) and A3 was part of section 20 Doutta Galla. Section 20 was between Keilor Park Drive (formerly Fosters Rd) and the river between the lines of Sharps Rd and Gymkhana Place (15 B6.) This may have been bought from Thomas Nash, (son of Charles Nash Snr. of Fairview), who also owned land in this section.
My maternal grandfather, Frederick William Cock, had moved to Bunyip and ran the New Bunyip Hotel on the three chain road (Princes Highway.) Longwarry was only 5 km away from the Bunyip Township and it is possible that in the course of visiting Fred, Alf had become acquainted with the Wood family and that it was not just a coincidence that G.E.Woods was the original selector of lot 10, Arundel Closer Settlement from the crown. The acquaintance eventually resulted in matrimony.*
We take the following from the Sunbury
News :-As a result of the special land
board, held at the Lands office, the whole
of the Arundel and Annandale portions of
the Overnewton estate were allotted to
settlers, and not one-half of the applicants
for blocks could be supplied. The land
was subdivided into 22 holdings of areas
ranging from seven to 122 acres, with
values ranging from £185 to £1,175, and
in the case of the homestead, £3,100, the
total value being about £16,000. - Altoge-
ther 50 applicants appeared before the
board, and these, it was shown by their
applications, were worth, on an average,
about £300 each, in a number of cases
being persons worth over £1,000. Evi-
dence of the applicants was taken, and
great difficulty was experienced in deter-
mining between the claims in many cases.
The following were successful: Block 1,
66a., Patrick Fox, Keilor; block 2, 61a.,
T. L. Anderson, Bacchus Marsh; block 3,
52a., J. Angus, Moonee Ponds; block 4,
59a., E. Angus, Moonee Ponds; block 5,
70a., A. Wallace, Cranbourne; block 6,
80a., J. Buchanan, Launching-place;
block 7, 86a., A. Williamson, Moonee
Ponds; block 8, 113a., Elizabeth William
son, Moonee Ponds; block 9, 120a., M.
Geraghty, Keilor; block 10, 114a., G.
Woods, Longwarry; block 11, 32a., C.
Youren, Albert Park; block 12, lla., J.
M'Farlane, South Yarra; block 13, 9a.,
R. Griffiths, Keilor; block 14, 12a., J.
Wallace, Clyde; block 15, 7a., A. Birch,
Ascotvale; block 16,7a., J. Barr, Arundel ;
Block 17,9a., Mary Angus, Moonee Ponds;
block 18, 7a., T. Birch, Keilor; block 19,
8a., Ellen Hassed, Keilor; block 20, 8a.,
Edward Hassed, Keilor; block 21, (home
stead), 122a., Alec. Cobden, St. Kilda;
block 22, 57a., Emma Cobden, St. Kilda.
Two allotments of the adjoining Over
newton estate were also selected, leaving
17 still to be taken up.(P.3, The Bacchus Marsh Express, 16-12-1905.)
* COCK-WOOD. — The engagement is announced of Jean, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Alfred Cock, Glenview, Tullamarine, to Kenneth C., son of the late Mr. and Mrs. E. B.Wood, of Minyip. (P.12, Argus, 8-6-1938.)
HOW GLENVIEW MADE ME A LOCAL HISTORIAN.
I was researching rate records at Broadmeadows for Ken Gibb.
Imminent elections meant I would not have access to the strongroom for a while so the rates officer gave me a Tullamarine/ Will Will Rook map which showed A.COCK as the grantee of c/a 10 of the Arundel Closer Settlement.
The published history of Tullamarine contained 1.5 foolscap pages and nothing about Alf Cock.
I immediately made a bicentennial commitment to acknowledge thousands of pioneers such as Alf who had never rated a mention.
Gordon Henwood, who grew up on the Arundel Closer Settlement, told me that I should see Johnny Fenton who gave me a list of contacts which rapidly snowballed.
Because of difficulties recently in submitting journals, this journal was composed on the WE REMEMBER TULLAMARINE Facebook page, as several recent journals about the area's pioneers have been. The cover photo referred to is on this page.
FRUSTRATION! (From my PIONEERS OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA Facebook post.)
As I had very little hope, based on no response from true locals in the past, that any useful information about the Chatfield family, pioneers of Rosebud West by 1919, would be forthcoming on the other page, I decided to write a journal on family tree circles but my 567th journal is UNDER REVIEW while stupid comments from Russians etc.slip through unnoticed. These usually get deleted but here's one example.
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WILLIAM THOMAS CHATFIELD AND HIS FAMILY, PIONEERS BY 1926 OF ROSEBUD WEST, VIC., AUST. WHEN LOCALS CALLED THE AREA EASTBOURNE.
William Chatfield, William Trueman, David Cairns and Co. would have laughed if anybody at the 1926 meeting had suggested that the area between Rosebud and Rye should be called Capel Sound. I refuse to call the area Capel Sound (now the official name of the suburb) lest people think I'm talking about the deep water anchorage stretching from the Sorrento and Rye channels near Blairgowrie to Mount Martha Point and about a mile offshore from Rosebud West. At least the people who proposed the stupid new name didn't want to change the names of Eastbourne Road and Eastbourne Primary School. "Eastbourne" on the south side of Eastbourne Rd between house blocks on the west side of Balaka St and Elizabeth Avenue, largely occupied today by the Village Glen, was only 1000 links (200 metres) from the beach at its north west corner.
On the beach side of Eastbourne Rd directly opposite "Eastbourne" was crown allotment 53 Wannaeue granted to lime merchant, William Allison Blair. He became insolvent and moved from Melway 28 J4 to a farm on the site of the Medway Golf Course (27 F9.) Blair's grants between Elizabeth Avenue and Truemans Rd were bought by the Zichy-Woinarski family which built the heritage-listed Woyna House at 9-11 Terry St and operated the 419 acres as a dairy farm. The land was later subdivided as the Woyna Estate.
Crown allotment 53 was sold in allotments, probably by Blair's assignee. "Two of these parcels were purchased and consolidated in 1923-4 by Mrs Alice Fielding (who is believed to have been a descendant of William Blair) and in 1941 she subdivided the land as it is today."
"Fielding Rd became (a rat run to avoid the congestion that still exists today, so) Fielding Rd was closed at the Eastbourne Rd end, gazetted on 2-11-1983, and the Woodthorpe Bushland Reserve there was gazetted in 2003."
(P. 192-4, STORIES OF ROSEBUD WEST, Bettyanne Foster, November 2016.)
Also on C/A 53, east of the Woodthorpe Estate to Chinamans Creek, are Chatfield Avenue and Capel Avenue. The latter was named by James Sloss whose name does not appear in the index of Bettyanne's book but he is discussed under Leisureland on pages 33-4. In the 1950's Leisureland was subdivided with Capel Avenue providing access to the blocks. Sloss provided land for the bowling club so it is fitting that when it was relocated to the Vern Wright Reserve, a green was named in his honour. After retiring as operator of Leisureland, James Sloss continued to run the post office at Rosebud West, which according to page 55 of Bettyanne's book was today's SOUND BAR (formerly the Capel Sound.) N.B.AS POINTED OUT BY BETTYANNE, PETER WILSON'S "ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD" HAS EXTENSIVE INFORMATION ABOUT JAMES SLOSS AND LEISURELAND. I BELIEVE THAT PETER RAN THE POST OFFICE FOR SLOSS.
The following was written by me yesterday as a post on the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook group page.
A HOLE IN ROSEBUD WEST'S HISTORY: THE CHATFIELDS.
Lime , Land, Leisure* states that Chatfield of Rosebud West was one of the earlyish fishermen and may have stated that his fishing right and cottage on the foreshore was taken over by (a Swede named Alex Vincent?) Vin Burnham mentioned Alex in one of his anecdotes but couldn't remember his surname. I can think of nobody else but C.N.Hollinshed who would have supplied the surname and I think that Vin (Owen) must have mentioned his place of origin.
*POSTSCRIPT. A CHECK ONLINE OF DON JORDAN'S INDEX FOR "LIME LAND LEISURE" REVEALS NO MENTION OF WILLIAM CHATFIELD. IT WAS PETER WILSON WHO MENTIONED WILLIAM CHATFIELD ON PAGE 40 OF "ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD" AND AXEL VINCENT ON PAGE 42. PETER SAID THAT CHATFIELD WAS A FISHERMAN AT "WEST ROSEBUD" AND AS HE RAN THE ROSEBUD WEST NEWSAGENCY AT SOME STAGE, THIS INFORMATION MAY HAVE COME DIRECTLY FROM WILLIAM CHATFIELD WHO DIED THERE IN 1961, OR STELLA CHATFIELD WHO WAS STILL LIVING THERE IN THE 1970'S. PETER'S WIDOW, LOIS, IS A GRAND DAUGHTER OF WALTER BURNHAM WHO WAS PROBABLY THE NEAREST FISHERMAN TO WILLIAM CHATFIELD. HIS COTTAGE ON THE FORESHORE NEAR BONEO RD. BEING ONLY 50 CHAINS (1 KM) EAST OF CHINAMANS CREEK.
I had never mentioned Chatfield to Bettyanne Foster so it is not surprising that there is no mention of the Chatfields in her STORIES OF ROSEBUD WEST.
I must have mentioned something about Chatfield having been a fisherman at Rosebud West on this page soon after I joined the group and this was disputed by a member who remembered him as a storekeeper and stated that he built the tattoo parlour which is on the same block of land as the house shown in the photo posted on 28-1-2017 by Bruce Jones (and now back to the top of the page due to comments.)
Mr Chatfield was most likely William Chatfield and he could well have been a fisherman in his younger days before the aforesaid member moved to Rosebud West. While Bettyanne Foster had much detail about the Woodthorpe Estate and James Sloss of Leisureland, very little has been published about the Chatfields so hopefully some of the true locals can provide some information.
Here's a start.
CHATFIELD, Nellie Phoebe. -On June 29, at her residence,Chatfield avenue, West Rosebud, beloved wife of William, and loving mother of Stella, aged 71 years.
(P.11, Argus, 30-6-1953.)
This could well be the house shown in Bruce's photo but it could also be the Chatfield residence in Chatfield Avenue. Was William moving away to live with his daughter, Stella?
Stella was still at Rosebud West in 1950 if she was the S.Chatfield listed in the 1950 directory and no marriage notice has been found for her.
TO LET. — Furnished, accom. 7, close beach, West Rosebud, sew.,,H.W.S. Vacant from Jan. 9. Chatfield. West Rosebud.(P.54, The Age, 5-12-1953.)
And that's all that Trove has for "Chatfield, West Rosebud."
It came as a shock to find that Rosebud West was known by that name BEFORE it was referred to as West Rosebud!
HOUSE to Let, furn.,, accom. 9 persons. Chatfield, Rosebud West. (P.10, The Age, 3-2-1940.)
LOST Friday bet St Kilda Rosebud Black Pom answers Ponto Reward Chatfield, Rosebud West. (P.10, Argus, 16-10-1940.)
It came as no surprise that when William Chatfield and other pioneers of the area between Rosebud and Rye had to come up with a name for that area in 1926 they did a lot better than to name it after a deep water anchorage at least a mile away in the Bay and extending from Blairgowrie to Mt. Martha Point (Capel Sound).
As I'd run out of results for the Chatfields, there being no death notice re William and only a suspicion that his daughter, Stella, was named after a Mrs H.Chatfield of St Kilda whose maiden name was GIACOMETTI), the naming of Eastbourne in 1926 remained my only hope of finding more information about the Chatfields.
At a public meeting held at Eastbourne a committee of management, consisting of Messrs D Cairns, W. Chatfield, F Luscombe, and W.Truman, was formed to take over control of portion of the foreshore between Rye and Rosebud. It was decided to name the locality Eastbourne.(P.15, Argus, 23-6-1926.)
The Sands and McDougall directory of 1950 lists W.T. and S. Chatfield as storekeepers of Rosebud West.
Victorian BDM is still offline for maintenance but I've managed to find a few details.
Nellie Phoebe Boxshall Chatfield
BIRTH 30 Oct 1882 Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
DEATH 29 Jun 1953 Rosebud, Mornington Peninsula Shire, Victoria, Australia
BURIAL* Rye Cemetery and Memorial Gardens Rye, Mornington Peninsula Shire, Victoria, Australia (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/125557401)
* There is no record of any Chatfield burials on http://www.australiancemeteries.com.au/…/morn…/ryeafdata.htm
CHATFIELD, Stella Louisa
Female 1901 - 1991 (90 years)
Name CHATFIELD, Stella Louisa
Born 1901 Carlton, Victoria, Australia
Died 31 May 1991 Frankston, Victoria, Australia
Person ID P991 Sullivan Genealogy
Last Modified 15 Oct 2017
Father CHATFIELD, William Thomas, b. 9 Dec 1881, Albury, NSW, Australia, d. 24 Jun 1961, Rosebud West, Victoria, Australia (Age 79 years)
Mother BOXSHALL, Nellie Phoebe, b. 30 Oct 1882, Carlton, Victoria, Australia d. 29 Jun 1953, Victoria, Australia (Age 70 years)
Married 27 Apr 1901 Victoria, Australia
Family ID F191 Group Sheet | Family Chart
NOW, OVER TO THE TRUE LOCALS!
Useful comments posted so far.
Mal Boag No Chatfields enrolled at Rosebud State School between 1884-1970. Presumably any children attended Rye.
ME. Thanks Mal Boag. The first documentary evidence of William Thomas Chatfield being at Rosebud West was in 1926 and he had probably been there for a few years. However, Stella, apparently his only child, was born in 1901 so her education was probably well in the past before the family's arrival in the area. William's wife was buried at Rye but there is no record of it on <http://www.australiancemeteries.com.au/.../ryeafdata.htm>.
ADD TO JOURNAL WHEN AND IF POSSIBLE.
The earliest previous documentation of William Chatfield being at Rosebud West was the 1926 meeting. It now seems that he had moved from the Balaclava electorate to the Flinders electorate between 1917 and 1919.
William Thomas Chatfield
gender 1917 Victoria Balaclava
William Thomas Chatfield
gender 1919 Victoria Flinders
(William Wallace Chatfield - Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 ...
There was more than one Boxshall-Chadfield marriage. Nellie Phoebie's brother, William Boxshall, married Louisa Mary Chatfield.
Louisa Mary Chatfield Boxshall
BIRTH 18 Jun 1878 Carlton, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
DEATH 1 Sep 1948 St Kilda, Port Phillip City, Victoria, Australia
BURIAL Springvale Botanical Cemetery Springvale, Greater Dandenong City, Victoria, Australia
William Thomas Boxshall, 1875 - 1963
William Thomas Boxshall was born on month day 1875, at birth place, to Thomas Boxshall and Elizabeth Boxshall (born Mills).
Thomas was born on September 3 1828, in Dorking, Surrey, England.
Elizabeth was born on February 2 1846, in Finchley, Middlesex, England.
William had 3 siblings: Nellie Phoebe Chatfield (born Boxshall) and 2 other siblings.
William married Louisa Mary Boxshall (born Chatfield) in 1900, at age 24 at marriage place.
Louisa was born on June 18 1878, in Tungamah, Victoria, Australia.
They had 3 children: Leonard Roy Boxshall and 2 other children.
William passed away on month day 1963, at age 87 at death place.
He was buried on month day 1963, at burial place.
WAS LOUISA A SISTER OF THE ROSEBUD WEST PIONEER?
CHATFIELD.—On the 2nd February, at 5 Inkerman grove, St. Kilda, Hannah Chatfield, the dearly beloved wife of George, and loving mother of Louisa (Mrs. Boxshall), Jack, William, Henry, George, Ada (Mrs. Lee), Annie (Mrs. Pummeroy), and Ernest, aged 83 years.—A loving mother at rest.
(P.15, Argus, 3-2-1934.)
THE YOUNGEST OF THE ABOVE CHILDREN WAS ERNEST WALTER CHATFIELD.
Ernest Walter CHATFIELD
Regimental number 328
Religion Church of England
Address 5 Inkerman Grove, St Kilda, Victoria
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 20
Next of kin Mother, Mrs Anna Chatfield, 5 Inkerman Grove, St Kilda, Victoria
Enlistment date 17 August 1914
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 5th Battalion, E Company
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/22/1
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board Transport A3 Orvieto on 21 October 1914
Rank from Nominal Roll Driver
Unit from Nominal Roll 1st Division Headquarters
Fate Returned to Australia 8 October 1918
Miscellaneous information from
cemetery records Photo: Kent Fedorowich
Discharge date 31 January 1919
War service: Egypt, Gallipoli, Western Front
Medals: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal
Date of death 24 May 1943
Age at death 61
Place of burial Corowa Old Cemetery, New South Wales*
*The gravestone quaintly describes him as a veteran of the Boar War (AND THE 1914-18 WAR.). He must have been very young when he was fighting the PIGS unless his age at embarkation (20) is wrong. The grave photo is wrong! The deceased* was just plain Walter who must have been born in about 1882 as he died in 1943 aged 61. There is no record of his W.W, 1 service in the A.I.F. PROJECT.
* WALTER CHATFIELD, Late of Corowa, New South Wales, Laborer, Deceased, Intestate.-After 14 days Public Trustee, duly authorised by Florence Mary Ann Chatfield, widow of the deceased. Intends to FILE in the Supreme Court- an ELECTION to ADMINISTER the estate of the deceased.(P.11, Argus, 23-9-1943.)
As Louisa Mary and William Thomas Chatfield* were both born at Tungamah, it is extremely likely that the Rosebud West pioneer of circa 1919 was the William listed as one of the children of George and Hannah of 5 Inkerman Grove St Kilda in Hannah's death notice above.
* RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: Chatfield Family History - 1446 ...
CHATFIELD, William Henry b: 1844 in Worthing, Sussex West, England d: 1855 in Worthing, Sussex West, England CHATFIELD .... CHATFIELD, William Thomas b: 9 Dec 1881 in Tungamah, Moira Shire, Victoria, Australia d: 24 Jun 1961 in Rosebud West, Mornington Peninsula Shire, Victoria, Australia
William Thomas Chatfield was also probably the W. Chatfield who was a prominent member of the St Kilda Angling Club, winning many of its competitions in the years before his move to Rosebud West. This makes it likely that he did indeed turn "Pro", and obtain a fishing right near Chinamans Creek. I had trouble locating results for "St Kilda Angling Club, Chatfield" which I'd read last night and this uncorrected report will explain why.
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The above club's angling competition for M--. Gardiner's trophy took place
on December 6th: and resulted *r follows : —1st, \V. Chatfield. 17 lbs. mixed
fish; 2nd, C. Edwards, 3 lbs. mixed fisli.
When was this Rosebud West street first mentioned? Who had subdivided the land and what was the name of the estate?
Chatfield Avenue was mentioned in Nellie's death notice in 1953 so that parcel of c/a 53 had obviously been subdivided by then. Another resident of Chatfield Avenue in 1953 was Vic Guy who wanted to buy a 1937-8 Willy's sedan or ute (P.37, The Age, 14-2-1953.) He obviously liked fishing but in 1955 he was trying to sell a dingy and mooring. (P. 46, Argus, 3-12-1955.)
A search for Chatfield Av. or Avenue produced no new information (with a suburb name). "Chatfield Avenue" alone produced 96 results, all but one being about the Balwyn street.
PRAHRAN HODGES was most likely the name of a real estate agency (or agent) which had snapped up blocks in three different estates near the beach south of the government road NOW called Eastbourne Road.
Ocean St was on c/a 17 Wannaeue between Jetty Rd and the line of Norm Clark Walk, first subdivided in the latish 1870's by R.R.Woolcott with W.F.Vale taking over his efforts in 1913.*
(*See under Rosebud in column https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/196245254)
Arthur Alfred Thomas had bought "Hindhope" from Eleanor Rigg at 2:21 p.m. on 23-10-1914. This roughly 57 acre farm fronted Pt Nepean Rd from First Avenue to Boneo Rd and extended south to include Hindhope Villa (50 First Avenue, RECENTLY DEMOLISHED BECAUSE OF INADEQUATE HERITAGE STUDIES) and Hope St house blocks. The first street in the subdivision was supposed to be named after the last to farm Hindhope (on a one year lease), a member of the famed Frankston pioneering McCOMB family but the surveyor labelled it McCombe St on the plan of Block A. Thomas St was named after the developer.
PRAHRAN HODGES. - Ocean and Thomas streets and Chatfield avenue, Rosebud, 3-Building sites and cottage.(P.2, Argus, 26-12-1928.) See below:TITLES INFORMATION FOR LOT 3 SOLD IN 1928 BY PRAHRAN HODGES.
WAS IT WILLIAM THOMAS CHATFIELD WHO SUGGESTED EASTBOURNE AS THE NAME FOR THE LOCALITY BETWEEN ROSEBUD AND RYE IN 1926?
A trove search for "ESTATE, ROSEBUD" in the 1920's failed to reveal how Chatfield Avenue at Rosebud West acquired its name by 1928. I was about to try "chatfield, rosebud" in the same decade when an impulse led to me substituting Eastbourne for Rosebud. William seemed to be keen to see Eastbourne established as the locality's name so perhaps it was his suggestion in the first place. Dromana was a well-known place and, in advertisements for estates and holiday accommodation, was usually tacked onto Rosebud with which most Melbourne residents would not have been acquainted.
To Let, Furn, House, accom. 9, on main road, vacant Xmas onwards. W. Chatfield,Eastbourne, Dromana.
(P.20, The Age, 4-12-1929.)
Chatfield Avenue was obviously a subdivisional street (at least on paper!) by Easter 1927. The three roomed villa may have been William Chatfield's original dwelling, but perhaps not*. It was to be sold on the 18th, Easter Monday.
KNIGHT and HARWOOD..-Cor. Pt. Nepean road and Chatfield street, Rosebud, 3- Villa.(P.2, Argus, 16-4-1927.)
*It is starting to look likely that William Chatfield had purchased one or more portions of c/a 53, which like the Woodthorpe Estate, stretched from Pt Nepean Rd to Eastbourne Rd,and that he had lodged the subdivision plan himself and was building houses on beachfront lots which were most likely to sell quickly.This was quite a deep block.
ROSEBUD. — For Sale, House, 6 r., land 50 x 250 ft. on Nepean-rd.; £450, cash or terms. W. Chatfield.
(P.5, The Age, 5-2-1927.)
TITLES INFORMATION FOR LOT 3 SOLD IN 1928 BY PRAHRAN HODGES.
LOT 3.-Under Instructions from the Mortgagee-All That Piece of Land being LOT 3 on plan of Subdivision 10,160, Being Part of Crown Allotment 50, Section A, Parish Wannaeue, and Being the Land More Particularly Described in
Certificate of Title, Volume 5028. Folio 1,005,549, Having a Frontage of 70ft. to Chatfield Av., by Depths of 117ft 9 in. on One Side and 110ft. 4 in. on Other Side, Upon Which is Erected a W.B. Cottage of 6 Rooms and Convs. The Property is Distant About 200 feet from the Main Pt. Nepean Road, Rosebud.
TERMS FOR LOTS:-
Lot 1, L. 10 Deposit: Lot 2, L.10 Deposit: Lot 3- L.50 Deposit. Balance, Three Years, with Interest at 7 Per Cent.
PRAHRAN HODGES, 367 Chapel st., South Yarra.(P.2, Argus, 19-12-1928.)
A Lands Department clerk has obviously made an error regarding the crown allotment number. No copies of the Wannaeue parish map show crown allotment 50 section A (part of the former Tootgarook run; section B having been the Arthurs Seat Run.) The boundary between c/a 13 and 53 was just east of the Boneo drain and David Cairns must have purchased the part of c/a 53 between Mirram Ave. and Chinamans Creek, leased, and later sold to, the Wong family, from the Blair Estate or assignee. Chatfield Avenue, Leisureland (Capel Avenue) and the Woodthorpe Estate were all on c/a 53 which went west to Elizabeth Avenue. Eastbourne, across Eastbourne Rd, consisted of c/a's 52 and 44, the Woyna Estate between Elizabeth Ave. and Truemans Rd was on c/a's 51, 49 and 45 and the Stenniken, Truemans and Rowley grants across Truemans Rd were on c/a's 48, 47 and 46, 46A.
The Mortgagee of lot 3 was most likely William Thomas Chatfield and the memorial (v.5028 f.1005549) should detail the transfer of the land from the developer to the purchaser, a sketch of title tracing the land back to c/a 53 being granted to Blair, transferred to an assignee, sold in portions such as that containing Chatfield Avenue,transfer of this part (To Chatfield?), sale of lot 3 to the unknown purchaser, this block being mortgaged to the seller (or a financial body) etc. There may also be plans showing the Chatfield Avenue portion on c/a 53 and lot 3 on this portion coloured red.
With the title details given, the above information mentioned can be provided at a cost.
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Death record of William Thomas Chatfield (1961 aged 79) re parents' names. STILL OFFLINE.
SHEPPARTON'S SARAH WRIGHT, NEE COUSINS, AND A CONNECTION WITH TULLAMARINE, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA TO BE DISCOVERED.
I can't sip a coffee without something to read so I was checking out trove results for Tullamarine in the 1930's when I discovered Sarah's obituary. As soon as I saw Sarah's maiden name, I suspected that her father's name was James and when I found that Sarah's mother had died within two years of their arrival, I suspected that I'd found the reason that James Cousins had become the stepfather of George Hendrie (sic, Hendry):
GEORGE HENDRIE IMPALATION
Was Mrs Parr the widowed Ann Parr or the wife of James Henry Parr?
Although there were many questions to be answered, I just had to use Sarah's obituary. Although Victorian BDM was working briefly last night when I managed to find Gordon Connor's 1899 birth record, it is again offline for scheduled maintenance. Neil Mansfield's THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY (P.47) has answered at least one question. James Henry Parr did not marry Emily Mansfield until 1876 so Sarah Cousins was obviously looked after by Ann Parr (whose maiden name has not yet been discovered.) The widowed Ann (d. 1879 aged 72) and her son, James Henry, then about 5 years old, arrived in Victoria in 1853, apparently via New Zealand where Ann's husband had died. Sarah's obituary indicates that the Cousins family arrived circa 1862 and that Mrs Cousins died circa 1864. Sarah was probably the youngest daughter but it will be interesting to see if there were any Cousins children born here.
There were so many Thomas Wrights in Tullamarine's history that my head spins so Herbert Wright's death record will be of value when it becomes available again.
PASSING OF OLD PIONEER
In the passing away of Mrs Sarah Wright, one of the few remaining pioneers of the district has gone to her eternal rest. The late Mrs Wright's father, Mr. Cousins, came from Leicestershire, England, aboard the “King of Algeria" some 73 years ago, bringing with him his wife and family of five daughters and one son. Only one of the family survives, Mrs. Elizabeth Smith, of Essendon.
Mrs. Wright’s mother died within two years of their arrival in Melbourne and Mrs. Wright was taken by Mrs. Parr, of Tullamarine, where she lived for a few years, later residing with Dr. Dare and family at Camberwell where he was the minister. After his death she was with Rev. Usher's family until she married Mr. Herbert Wright, of Pine-Lodge, where she resided until a few years ago, when she and her husband came to take a well earned rest in Shepparton residing here until her death.
Although Mrs. Wright reared a family of 12 (one, Ralph, deceased) she found time to help wherever she could in sickness and trouble and her kindness and unselfishness in those early days of the district, when doctors and nurses were scarce and roads so bad, made her many friends by whom she was generally loved. She was an energetic church worker, and had unbounded spiritual wealth, and to the last was always trying to help the cause of Christianity. She was a lover of her church and the Home League and gave great assistance in her quiet way.
The cortege which followed the remains to the Shepparton cemetery on the 24th showed the respect and esteem in which the late Mrs Wright was held. Casket bearers were her three sons-in-law, Messrs P. Colliver, A. Laws, R. McCormack; Mr. Fred Smith (Essendon), a nephew, Mr. D.Wright, nephew, and Mr. C. J. Laws, an old friend of the family, Pall bearers were her eight sons, Walter, Edward, Arthur, Bert. Robert, Alic, Harrie and Fred.
Much sympathy is extended to Mr.Wright and family in their sad bereavement.
(P.4, Shepparton Advertiser, 2-8-1935.)
Mr Herbert Alfred Wright
The death of Mr. Herbert Alfred Wright. 94 years, of 54 Corio Street. Shepparton, occurred on July 31, at his residence. The funeral took place from Wesley Church for the Shepparton cemetery on the following Thursday,the Rev. H. B. Freeman conducting the services.
The casket was borne by one son (Frederick) and five grandsons ( Messrs. Mervyn McCormack,Alvin, Kenneth, Ronald and Leonard Wright), while the pall bearers were Messrs, Arthur, Herbert, Harrie and Alic Wright(sons), Cliff and Leslie Hamilton (nephews). He also has two surviving sisters, Mrs. Agar and Mrs. Hamilton, of Melbourne.
The funeral arrangements were in the hands of Messrs. Kittle Bros., which was largely attended showing the widespread respect held for an old pioneer of the Goulburn Valley district.
The late Mr. Wright, who celebrated his 94th birthday on July 17 last, was born at Mickleham, old Sydney road, 20 miles from Melbourne, his parents being the late Thomas and Mary Ann Wright. Possessed of a powerfulphysique, his good health and mental alertness continued throughout his long life, the last 27 years of which were spent in retirement in Shepparton. His wife, who was formerly Miss Sarah Cousins, predeceased him in 1935.
He was the father of Alice(Mrs. R. McCormack), Walter, Mary (Mrs. Colliver), Arthur,Edward (dec.), Herbert, Lillian(Mrs. Albert Laws), Ralph (dec.), Robert, Harry, Alex and Frederick. He leaves also 2? grandchildren and 14 great grand children. Mr. Wright was a member of the Pine Lodge Methodist church and also a trustee and treasurer until he retired from his farm to live in Shepparton. He was a man of many ideal qualities and always ready to serve the interests of others. He is translated into a greater life and a wider sphere of service. If our eyes could only see what eternal life means we would rejoice with great joy.
(P.9, Shepparton Advertiser, 17-8-1951.)
A WRIGHT, MICKLEHAM search on trove found a report of Herbert's 90th birthday that gives additional details,such as the year of his marriage, and confirms my suspicion that his parents had selected land at Pine Lodge.
Mr. Herbert Wright Celebrates
To celebrate the 90th birthday of Mr. Herbert Wright of Corio street, Shepparton, 35 members of his family and relatives met at his home on Thursday afternoon last, for the occasion. Mrs. Ager(sic) and Mrs. Hamilton, his two sisters, travelled from Melbourne to be present. Many telegrams and letters conveying birthday greetings and good wishes were read by his eldest nephew, Mr. J. Albert Wright, which had been sent from New South Wales,
Western Australia and other parts of the State.
Mr. Wright was born at Mickleham in 1857 and came with his parents to Pine Lodge in 1873, where he
afterwards bought land and followed farming pursuits. In 1880 he married Miss Sarah Cousin (sic), of Melbourne. Relinquishing his land twenty-five years ago, he came to reside at Corio Street, Shepparton. His wife, after a short illness, passed away twelve years ago.
His niece, Mrs. W. Hillier, baked the birthday cake and decorated it and his sister, Mrs. Agar, lit the candles while his other sister, Mrs.Hamilton, extinguished them. (P.9 Shepparton Advertiser, 22-7-1947.)
HERBERT WRIGHT'S PARENTS.
Euroke or Yuroke was the parish between Will Will Rook and Mickleham extending north from the line of Swain St (just south of the Providence Rd/ Mickleham Rd corner) to about a mile north of Craigieburn Rd and generally east to Merri Creek. The Machell grant, between Mickleham Rd and Section Rd,subdivided in the early 1850's and largely occupied by Methodists who built the heritage-listed Primitive Methodist Church and called the area Providence Plains, was probably their abode in "Euroke".
A METHODIST NONAGENARIAN
THE NONAGENERIAN'S DEATH NOTICE.
WRIGHT. –On the 3rd November, at the residence of her daughter, Mrs. T. Agar, Coburg, Mary Ann, relict of the late Thomas Wright, of Pine Lodge, loved mother of James, Herbert, Mrs. Hounslow (Sarah)*, Mrs. Agar (Rose), Mrs. Hamilton (Jennie), the surviving sons and daughters, aged 96 years. A colonist of 71 years.
A beautiful life, a peaceful end; She lived as she died, with God her friend. (P.1, Argus, 4-11-1919.)
See THE HOUNSLOWS.
HERBERT'S MUCH OLDER SISTER, ANN?
STRANKS— WRIGHT.— On the 10th inst.,at the Primitive Methodist Chapel, Campbellfield, by the Rev. M.Clarke, George Stranks, of Pascoe Vale, to Ann Wright, of Mickleham.(P.4, The Age, 13-3-1868.)
I was unclear whether Pine Lodge was the name of the Wright farm or a locality; it was the latter! As in Tullamarine, and the earliest subdivision in Greenvale, many residents were Methodists.
Pine Lodge is a rural district in north central Victoria, 12 km east of Shepparton.
In 1839 the Arcadia pastoral run, enclosing all of the Shepparton district, was occupied, and in 1858 it was divided into two. The second part was named Pine Lodge, possibly because of the prevalence of the Callitris tree, known as Murray Pine. The timber is resistant to white ant infestation and was found in the original homestead when it was replaced in 1913.
In the 1870s the Pine Lodge property was subdivided for farm selections. Between 1878 and 1882 four schools were opened in the Pine Lodge district, indicating the extent of the place name, particularly eastwards to what is now Cosgrove. Pine Lodge’s school (1878) was opened in a Methodist Free Church, and the Methodist denomination continued to be the main one, building a new and substantial brick building in 1924. The original Pine Lodge village was westwards, near today’s Orrvale.
Why I am mentioning the Hounslows?
THE NONAGENERIAN'S DEATH NOTICE.
WRIGHT. –On the 3rd November, at the residence of her daughter, Mrs. T. Agar, Coburg, Mary Ann, relict of the late Thomas Wright, of Pine Lodge, loved mother of James, Herbert, Mrs. Hounslow (Sarah)*, Mrs. Agar (Rose), Mrs. Hamilton (Jennie), the surviving sons and daughters, aged 96 years. A colonist of 71 years.
A beautiful life, a peaceful end; She lived as she died, with God her friend. (P.1, Argus, 4-11-1919.)
Thomas Wright's daughter, Sarah, married Albert Hounslow but there is no mention of Moorabool Flat in the article about her nonagenerian mother Mary Anne. The article states that Thomas went to Ballarat between their tenures at Mickleham and in the Golburn Valley but Albert and Sarah's wedding notice states that the wedding took place at Moorabool Flat. Their son, Alfred, later settled on 41 acres AT TULLAMARINE immediately south of the Parr property, The Elms, (where Sarah Cousins had probably lived for some years following the death of her mother circa 1864.)
HOUNSLOW—WRIGHT.—On the 12th May, at the residence of the bride's father, Albert Hounslow, of Campbellfield, to Sarah, third daughter of Mr. Thomas Wright, Moorabool Flat.
(P. 95, ILLUSTRATED AUSTRALIAN NEWS FOR HOME READERS, 14-6-1875.)
HOUNSLOW.—At his son's residence,Mooroopna, Albert Hounslow., dearly beloved husband of the late Sarah Hounslow and father of Clara (Mrs. George Knight, Mooroopna), Alfred(Tullamarine), Ada (Mrs. J. Killerberrin,. W.A.);
Frank (Shepparton); Mary (Mr.B. Smith, Shepparton); Fred (Mooroopna). At rest.
Funeral will leave Methodist Church for Shepparton cemetery at 2.30 o’clock tomorrow.
(P.4, Shepparton Advertiser, 18-9-1932.)
FROM THE HOUNSLOW ENTRY ON PAGE H 139 OF MY DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND.
FROM "The Story and Burial Listing of the Will Will Rook Pioneers Cemetery (October 2014.)
HERITAGE CONSULTANTS THINK THAT THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH SLOPPINESS BUT itellya WILL FIND THEM OUT. (VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.)
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An advertisement that appeared in 1888 for land at Redstone Hill, promoted it as ‘A beautiful
stretch of undulating country … lightly timbered, fenced, and subdivided into convenient
paddocks, with rich alluvial flats admirably adapted for Fruit Growing, and easily irrigated.29
An article of 1937 claimed that the first fruit tree planted in Victoria was possibly planted by
Martin Batey at Redstone Hill.30 In the 1870s it was noted that there were many orchards in
the Sunbury area.31
30 Source has not been identified, but was taken from a search in Ancestry.com
LET ME HELP YOU CONTEXT.
The source was an article about THE OLDEST FRUIT TREE IN VICTORIA which I should be able to locate on trove with this subject and the words FLINTOFF and BATEY. The tree was planted at Greensborough!
OLDEST FRUIT TREE