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THREE UNRELATED GIBSON FAMILIES NEAR DROMANA.
1. Walter Gibson and Margaret (Purdie) of "Glenholm".
2.James W. Gibson, dairyman, North Melbourne/ Brunswick; and possibly L.M.Gibson, Coburg who had land on the east side of Purves Rd, James being the grantee of c/a 24, section B, Wannaeue. (1910, 1919 rates.)
3.W.Gibson, grantee of c/a 78A, Balnarring on 22-7-1874. Ethel Bailey's mother who became Mrs Staples was a descendant of this family.
This would possibly be the grantee.
GIBSON -On the 23rd December at St. Margaret's private hospital, Hampton, William Nicholas Gibson, late of Red Hills, Dromana and Montrose, in his 81st year. (Private interment )
P.1, Argus, 27-12-1919.)
Extract from my PIONEER PATHWAY, DROMANA journal, written in 2012, when I was trying to find links between the various Gibson families.
GIBSON William and John Thomas (Red Hill) 1871
As I have only transcribed parish of Balnarring rates in 1919, I can only presume that a grantee in that parish was William Gibson. W.Gibson was granted crown allotment 78A of 190 acres 1 rood and 14 perches on 22-7-1874. It had a 1116 metre frontage to the east side of Red Hill Rd and a 1018 metre frontage to the north side of Stanleys Rd (Melway 191 G-H 3-4 roughly.) Across Red Hill Rd was John Huntley's Hillside where William Joseph McIlroy worked from about 27-9-1877 until 19-10-1890. His diary entry for 16-6-1890 said that Mrs Gibson had died so it can be assumed that she was the grantee's wife. (Extracts from W.J.McIlroy's diary in Sheila Skidmore's THE RED HILL.)
ALBERT LUDLOW NASE, A COURSING LEGEND. A large proportion of the time spent on my chronology of burials involves finding whether people who died at Dromana were actually buried there, especially when the death notice was in The Age because funeral notices were practically never on the same page and the page on which family notices were continued was rarely indicated. This bloke was actually buried at Flinders.
NASE.— On June 11, at Dromana Hospital. Albert Ludlow, beloved husband of Catherine and loving father of Phil, Jack, Ruby, Bert, Allie, Kit and Mab, aged 80 years, In God's care.(P.2, The Age, 13-6-1949.)
NASE.-The Funeral of the late Mr.ALBERT LUDLOW NASE will leave St. John's Church of England, Flinders, THIS DAY, after a service commencing at 2.30 p.m.. for the Flinders Cemetery.(P.8, The Age, 13-6-1949.)
Passing of Albert Nase
Sporting Globe (Melbourne, Vic. : 1922 - 1954) Wednesday 15 June 1949 p 18 Article
OBITUARY MR H(sic). L. NASE
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 14 June 1949 p 10 Article
ALBERT LUDLOW NASE WAS SO-NAMED IN HIS BIRTH, MARRIAGE, AND DEATH RECORDS.
EventMarriage Event registration number134 Registration year1895
Family nameNASE Given namesAlbt Ludlow SexMale Spouse's family nameFAWCETT Spouse's given namesKate
From the HISTORY OF FLINDERS-CRIB POINT Facebook page.
Kim Barker. Nase is the name for the people that had a property in Flinders not far from the ST JOHN'S CHURCH . is this the same family ?
ME. It would appear so. Their place was called "Wilga" and Mabs (Mabel?) married Frederick Wallace Jarman of "Devonia" near Stony Creek Rd (Melway 190 parts 6,7 E-F.). Andrew's first name may have started with N with Andrew being his most used given name but Mabel's death record gives his first name as Albert, as do Albert's death and birth records.
EventDeath Event registration number27684 Registration year1973
Family nameJARMAN Given namesMabel Jane SexFemale Father's nameNASE Albert Ludlow Mother's nameCatherine Elizabeth (Fawcett) Place of birthBallarat Place of deathMornington Age65
The Wilga Estate was a mile from Flinders on the way to Cape Schanck, so near the C777 symbol in Melway 261 E9.
BY PUBLIC AUCTION ,FOR A TERM OF THREE YEARS
Portions of "Wilga" Estate, Flinders,
ACCOUNT MR. A. L. NASE,
To be Offered At Tanti Sale Yards, Mornlngton, MONDAY, 26th MARCH, at about 3 p.m. ,
IN LOTS OF-
58 Acres, .known; as "Pinnacle" paddock,
108 Acres, known. as "Grange" paddock.
71 Acres, known as "Clark's paddock.
66 Acres, known as "Triangle" paddock.
ALEX. SCOTT & CO: PTY. LTD. have received instructions from Mr.A. L. Nase, to offer as above, portions of his property, "'Wilga" Estate, which fronts the main Flinders-Cape Schanck Road, 1 mile from Flinders. etc. (P.5, Standard, Frankston, 15-3-1945.)
The only one of these properties that can be identified with any certainty is the Triangle paddock of 65 acres 1 rood 4 perches bounded by Punchbowl, Razorback and Boneo Rds at Melway 261 B10.
Albert was a Creswick Shire councillor as was C.Fawcett. Albert was shire president on at least one occasion.
With Albert's Wilga estate being on various crown allotments, no residence being on the four detailed above, and so close to Flinders Township, it is almost certain that his residence was in the Flinders Township itself. Thanks to Kim Barker of the HISTORY OF FLINDERS-CRIB POINT group for pointing out that "Wilga" was 28 King St, Flinders.
Information from a google search for this address.
"Wilga" c 1883
Originally a rural homestead, "Wilga" boasts a distinctive facade and the wonderful characteristics of its era with sensitive modifications to compliment today's family life.
The interior features ornate period detailing, chandeliers, high ceilings, wide arched hallway, formal sitting room with OFP, hydronic heating, 4 spacious bedrooms, ensuite with claw foot bath, family bathroom with double shower, country kitchen with casual dining and separate games room.
Traditional verandahs surround the house and a north facing sun deck. Delightfully private gardens of 7077sqm (1.7 acres) approx with a tennis court and swimming pool.
SEE ATTACHED PHOTO OF "WILGA".
Andrew was a life member of the Flinders Golf Club. He may have played on the course from its formation circa 1902, during summer holidays, but moved permanently to Flinders in 1928.
At a farewell social at Ullina Mr. A. L.Nase was presented with a hall clock, pedestal, and vase.Mrs. Nase and the Misses Nase also received presents. Mr. Nase and family are leaving to live at Flinders.
COUNTRY NEWS. BALLARAT AND DISTRICT.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 3 August 1928 p 16 Article
However Albert had quite some tradition to uphold and seems to have returned to Creswick for shire council meetings.
EVIDENTLY FAMILY AFFAIRS.
Cr. Nase is in the Creswick Shire Council, where his father sat for 25 years, and where his grandfather sat
three quarters of a century ago. (P.39, The Northern Herald, Cairns, 21-11-1928.)
WILLIAM THOMAS HUNTLEY OF "ROSCOE", THOMAS STREET, BRIGHTON EAST, VIC., AUST., AND THE BENTLEIGH CLUB.
Today, I attended a Kensington Kids reunion at the Bentleigh Club (Melway 68 B11) at Brighton East. There was a painting of an old mansion in the foyer with no detail, including why it had pride of place. I assumed that it had formerly occupied the site. As we were leaving, I noticed that the end of the building nearest Huntley St may have been part of the mansion. I told one of my friends that the mansion might have belonged to a member of the Huntley family, pioneers of Brighton and Red Hill, of which Tommy Bent's second wife was a member. Tommy had married Elizabeth Huntley in 1864.
The Wikipedia history of Bentleigh of course mentions Tommy after whom Bentleigh was named but included little other information. A google search revealed no mention of "Roscoe". However a trove search revealed that William Thomas Huntley and Thomas Bent were the executors of Elizabeth Bent* and that William Thomas Huntley lived at "Roscoe", Thomas St.,Brighton.**
The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) Saturday 6 June 1903 p 12 Advertising
Brighton Southern Cross (Vic. : 1896 - 1918) Saturday 10 August 1918 p 3 Family Notices
If I recall correctly, the Bentleigh Club was formed in 1948 but there is no history of the club on the internet, a pity. Perhaps this might inspire the writing of one before those members who possess information about its early days pass away. The local council might also investigate the heritage value of the site and building.
ELIZABETH BENT'S DEATH NOTICE SHOWS THAT SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF JOHN HUNTLEY SENIOR.
(John Huntley Jnr. married Mary Hope.)
EventDeath Event registration number717 Registration year1903
Family nameBENT Given namesElizth SexUnknown Father's nameHuntly Jno Mother's nameCath Evelyn (Hegarttey) Place of birth Place of deathBrtn Age59
WILLIAM THOMAS HUNTLEY WAS ELIZABETH BENT'S BROTHER.
EventDeath Event registration number3887 Registration year1917
Family nameHUNTLEY Given namesWm Thomas SexUnknown Father's nameHuntley Jno Mother's nameCath Evelyn (Hegarty) Place of birth Place of deathBrighton Age71
Thomas St was probably named after Tommy Bent but Huntley St was probably named after his brother-in-law.
EDMONDS–CAIRNS.—On the 30th July, 1924,at the Presbyterian Church, Dromana, by the Rev. C. E. Hipwell, Edward John (Ned),
youngest son of Mrs. and the late John Edmonds, of Boneo, to Edna J. D., eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Walter Cairns, Quamby, Main Ridge. (P.11, Argus, 23-8-1924.)
MARRIAGE OF NED'S PARENTS.
EventMarriage Event registration number8092 Registration year1890
Family nameWILLIAMS Given namesMarion SexFemale Spouse's family nameEDMONDS Spouse's given namesJno
Marion was a daughter of Edward (Ned) Williams and Mary, nee Campbell, Her siblings were Carrie, who never married, Jimmy the squid who carried fish from the Rosebud area to the Mornington railhead, and Edward (Ted).These three are buried at Rye Cemetery opposite the grave of Sidney Smith Crispo, a great friend of the Williams family and grantee of "Eastbourne", Cassie's grave between those of James and Edwards' to prevent them quarreling in death as they had while living Ted's grave having no gravestone as he didn't deserve one in Cassie's opinion.
"Quamby" was on the west side of Purves Rd and was later occupied by another daughter of Walter Cairns, Ollie, and her husband, George Johnstone who hailed from Yering. Walter Cairns was a son of Alexander Cairns, grantee of "Menstrie Mains" on the north west corner of Browns and Boneo Rds.
In 1910, John and Marion Edmonds were leasing Ned Williams' grants which straddled Browns Rd just east of Truemans Rd and Caroline Williams was on Eastbourne. In 1919, Ned Edmonds was replaced as the occupant of Ned Williams' grants on the south side of Browns Rd east of Truemans Rd by James Woonton.
James had married Marion Edmonds, Ned Edmond's sister, who died in 1975. Before her death she sold land on "Henry Potton's Farm" east of Jetty Rd to the Parr brothers who established The Willows Caravan Park on it.(P.39, STORIES OF ROSEBUD WEST, Bettyanne Foster.) That's how Woonton Crescent got its name.
EventMarriage Event registration number11341 Registration year1915
Family nameWOONTON Given namesJas Hy SexUnknown Spouse's family nameEDMONDS Spouse's given namesMarion Adra (Alexandra!)
EventDeath Event registration number12983 Registration year1975
Family nameWOONTON Given namesMarion Alexandra SexFemale Father's nameEDMONDS John Mother's nameMarion (Williams) Place of birthCranbourne Place of deathFoster Age83
Ned died in 1985 so it must have been his father who was killed while leading a horse from the Tanti market.
EventDeath Event registration number17149 Registration year1985
Family nameEDMONDS Given namesEdward John SexMale Father's nameEDMONDS John Mother's nameMarion (Williams) Place of birthHamilton Place of deathMount Martha Age87
According to Ray Cairns, Ned later owned Menstrie Mains at Boneo.
WHO WAS KILLED? It WAS Ned's father, John, in 1923.
He was killed near the site of the McCrae Car Wash and was leading a horse. I thought my memory was playing tricks.
JOHN CALVIN GRIFFITH'S WIFE, MARY.
A photo of Christie Johnstone on the History of Flinders-Crib Point page reminded me that I had discovered Mary's ancestry by chance.
In A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, Colin McLear gave details of all the children of Cr. John Calvin Griffith of Dromana and Mary. Mary Who?
Having all the details of Christie Johnstone's descent from Oliver and Sarah Wilson, I entered "Henry Tuck, obituary" and got what seemed at first hand to be a useless response. But it wasn't, despite the journalist's usual error of rendering Griffith as Griffiths. Mary must have been Mary Dowling!
OBITUARY. DEATH OF MRS. C. DOWLING, By the death of Mrs Catherine Dowling, as mentioned in our last issue, another very old resident of the Mornington Peninsula has been removed from our midst. Mrs Dowling had reached the ripe old age of 86 years at the time of death. Although she was not suffering from any painful illness, she had been gradually failing under the pressure of her advanced years for some considerable time, and her death was not unexpected. She was possessed of an exceedingly kindly, warm hearted disposition, and very many old residents of the district, as well as the younger generation, will remember her as a true friend who had always a kindly word, and was ready to do a kindly action for anyone with whom she came into contact. The deceased lady was born in County Wicklow, Ireland, and reached Melbourne with her husband-who predeceased her by some nineteen years-in the ship " Marco Pauls " on Christmas Day, 1852. She was thus a colonist of nearly 59 years. After spending eight years, in other parts of Victoria, the Dowlings came to Stony Creek, now known as Shoreham, in the year 1860, and they were the first settlers to actually reside on their own holding in this locality, which was a portion of Tuck's Old Manton's Creek run. The country was, at the time of their acquiring the land, in a very rough state, and Mrs Dowling had many interesting incidents of hardships to relate. Her quaint sense of quiet humor always made these reminiscences pleasant to listen to. Their first homestead, a slab erection on the banks of the Creek, was totally destroyed by the collapse of a giant gum tree one very stormy night. In this instance Mr and Mrs Dowling had a very narrow escape from death. A large fork of the tree came down on each side of the bed upon which they were sleeping. Upon another occasion Mr Dowling, when some little distance away from the homestead, was forced by the ferocity of the dingoes to take refuge and spend the night up in the branches of a tree. Of Mrs Dowling's family three daughters and one son, all of whom are well known throughout the Peninsula, are surviving. These are Mrs J. C. Griffiths (sic) of Dromana; Mrs.Joseph Stanley of Balnarring; Mrs West, and Mr Christy Dowling, who was living at "The Glen" with his mother at the time of her death. The recent demise of one daughter, Mrs Henry Tuck, of Flinders, is sadly re- membered by her friends, as is also that of another daughter, Mrs J. West. A son, Mr Thomas Dowling, died some years ago, and another son expired in infancy. The remains of the deceased lady were interred in the Flinders general cemetery, when a very large number of people attended the funeral to show their last respects.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 5-8-1911.)
Since I wrote my journal (type SARAH WILSON, HENRY TUCK in your search bar because the link doesn't work), I have discovered VICTORIAN BDM which helped me to realise that, according to page 70 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, John Calvin Griffith married Mary and sired 11 children AFTER HIS DEATH IN 1872!
EventMarriage Event registration number1672 Registration year1873
Family nameGRIFFITH Given namesJohn C SexMale Spouse's family nameDOWLING Spouse's given namesMary
JOHN CALVIN GRIFFITH DIED IN 1927!
EventDeath Event registration number14132 Registration year1927
Family nameGRIFFITH Given namesJohn Calvin SexMale Father's nameGRIFFITH Abraham Mother's nameRebecca (Hurley) Place of birth Place of deathDROMANA Age80
i COULDN'T FIND MARY GRIFFITH'S DEATH RECORD BUT THEN I REMEMBERED THE USUAL INCORRECT SPELLING OF THE SURNAME.
EventDeath Event registration number15605 Registration year1940
Family nameGRIFFITHS Given namesMary SexUnknown Father's nameDowling Thomas Mother's nameMary* (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathDromana Age87
(*Mary's mother's full maiden name may have been Mary Christine DAVIS.)
This was Mary's brother, not her father.
EventDeath Event registration number7427 Registration year1889
Family nameDOWLING Given namesThos SexMale Father's nameThos Mother's nameCath (David*) Place of birth Place of deathFlinders-balnarri Age28
(*Obviously a typo for Davis, the D and S keys being adjacent on keyboards.)
Mary's father, Thomas, died on 11/04/1892, aged 77 and is buried in the Flinders cemetery with many other family members.
John and Mary Griffith were buried at Dromana but as the gravestone has no details there are none on the ozgen list.
There are photos of John and Mary on page 71 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.
DEATH RECORDS OF MARY'S PARENTS.
EventDeath Event registration number6312 Registration year1892
Family nameDOWLING Given namesThos SexMale Father's nameThos Mother's nameMary (Bolger) Place of birth Place of deathFlinders Age77
EventDeath Event registration number8956 Registration year1911
Family nameDOWLING Given namesCath SexUnknown Father's nameDavis Thos Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathFlinders Age86
On 6-2-1884, Thomas Dowling was granted crown allotment 3, section A, parish of Flinders, consisting of 109 acres 2 roods 39 perches bounded by the top of Melway 255 G1, Main Creek, a closed road running south west from the creek in the middle of J2 to the middle of H3, and Tucks Rd. He'd selected this land in about 1860.
ANOTHER GIBSON LINK WITH N.Z.
Walter Gibson's brother, John became a Kiwi and recently it was discovered that Walter's son, Water James, (not even listed on page 82 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA) had died in N.Z. Tom is listed as the last child of Walter and Margaret and he had probably met his future bride during a visit to the N.Z. branch of the family.
EventBirth Event registration number8472 Registration year1872
Family nameGIBSON Given namesThomas William Balantine SexUnknown Father's nameWalter Mother's nameMargaret (Purdie) Place of birthDROM
GIBSON—PISTOLES.—On the 6th July, 1909, at "Falkirk," Clifton Hill, residence of the bride's uncle, by the Rev. T. Brown, Thomas W. B.,youngest son of Walter Gibson, Esq., "Glenholme*," Dromana, to Elizabeth, daughter of the late Charles Pistoles, of New Zealand. (P. 13, Argus, 14-8-1909.)
*Walter Gibson always called the farm Glenholm but descendants may have added the e at the end.
Tom's full name was Thomas William Ballantyne Gibson.
EventMarriage Event registration number6063 Registration year1909
Family nameGIBSON Given namesThos Wm Ballantyne SexUnknown Spouse's family namePISTOLES Spouse's given namesElizth
APPARENTLY TOM AND ELIZABETH'S ONLY CHILD.
Their first child was born in Victoria.
EventBirth Event registration number23291 Registration year1910
Family nameGIBSON Given namesJean Mcintyre SexFemale Father's nameThomas Wm Ballantyne Mother's nameElizth (Pistoles) Place of birthST KILDA
No more of their children are listed as being born in Victoria up to 1920.
Tom died in Victoria.
EventDeath Event registration number5847 Registration year1953
Family nameGIBSON Given namesThomas Ballantyne SexMale Father's nameGIBSON Walter Mother's nameMargaret (Unknown) Place of birthDROMANA Place of deathHUGHESDALE Age81
So did Elizabeth, in the same year and area; Hughesdale is just south of East Malvern.
EventDeath Event registration number12438 Registration year1953
Family nameGIBSON Given namesElizabeth SexFemale Father's namePIDOLES Unknown Mother's nameJean (Unknown) Place of birthNEW ZEALAND Place of deathMALVERN EAST Age72
Elizabeth's death notice seems to confirm my belief that Thomas and Elizabeth only had one child. As the funeral parlour was only a Billy Brownless torp from Hughesdale, this has to be Elizabeth, nee Pistoles.
GlBSON. — On October 14, at private hospital, Elizabeth, dearly
beloved wife of the late Thomas, loved mother of Jean,- mother-in-law of Bert, loving grandmother of Lorraine and Heather.
GIBSON. — The Funeral of the late Mrs. ELIZABETH GIBSON will leave T. Renton's funeral parlor. 23 Station Street, Oakleigh,THIS DAY, at 11 a.m., for the Spring Vale Crematorium,(Both P.11, The Age, 16-10-1953.)
Jean became Mrs Willmott.
EventMarriage Event registration number13007 Registration year1940
Family nameGIBSON Given namesJean Mcintyre SexUnknown Spouse's family nameWILMOTT Spouse's given namesBert Leslie
JAMES WAS BURIED AT DROMANA CEMETERY. ENTRY FROM MY CHRONOLOGY OF BURIALS AT DROMANA.
4+-10-1951. JAMES GRAY, DROMANA.
GRAY. — On October 4, at Dromana, James, beloved husband of the late Alice Gray, loving father of Alice (Mrs. Hallowell). Ruth (Mrs. Mehegan). Katie and Wallace; aged 93 years. Formerly of Macarthur and Warrnambool. Victoria.(P.2, The Age, 6-10-1951.)
The age was digitised as 98 years but close examination of the page revealed that it was actually 93 as on the “marble on granite” gravestone at Dromana cemetery shown on the ozgen list.
There was no funeral notice.
The death record gave his age as 92, perhaps a typo.
EventDeath Event registration number23297 Registration year1951
Family nameGRAY Given namesJames
Father's nameGREY James Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown)*
Place of birthPORTLAND Place of deathDROMANA Age92
*See birth record at end of entry.
I suspected that the maiden name of the late wife of James was Neild and their daughter Alice’s death record did not provide her mother’s maiden name so I tried Ruth’s which confirmed my suspicion. Interestingly Ruth, born at Warrnambool, died at Dromana. Her sister Alice Hallowell (who, like her father, died at the age of 93) had probably married near her death place of Warrnambool.
RUTH’S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number4832 Registration year1965
Personal information Family nameMEHEGAN Given namesRuth
Father's nameGRAY James Mother's nameAlice (Nield)
Place of birthWarrnambool Place of deathDromana Age74
Ruth’s name is not on the ozgen list for Dromana but I wonder if she was buried with her father.
James and Alice were married in 1885.
EventMarriage Event registration number6141 Registration year1885
Personal information Family nameGRAY Given namesJames
Spouse's family nameNEILD Spouse's given namesAlice
A trove search revealed the Hallowell family as early and long-time Warrnambool residents and the NIELDS ditto at Macarthur.
JAMES GRAY’S BIRTH RECORD.
EventBirth Event registration number20242 Registration year1859*
Personal information Family nameGRAY Given namesJames
Father's nameJas Mother's nameCatherine (Black)
Place of birthP'LAND
*The age of 92 on the death record could be right and the age of 93 in the death notice and gravestone inscription wrong.
RUTH’S SECOND MARRIAGE.
She’’d married Alfred Greenwood in 1916 (reg. no.687.)
EventMarriage Event registration number2271 Registration year1941
Personal information Family nameMEHEGAN Given namesJas
Spouse's family nameGREENWOOD Spouse's given namesRuth
James had been a widower for 30 years when he died. He may have been living with Ruth at Dromana.
HIS LATE WIFE’S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number12321 Registration year1921
Personal information Family nameGRAY Given namesAlice
Father's nameNeild (SIC)James Mother's nameSarah (Mitchell)
Place of deathWARRNAMBOOL Age64
"Teenie" Gibson (No details on page 82 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
O'SHANNASSY -On the 31st March at the residence of her son T P O'Shannassy, Manangatang, Christina, relict of the late William O'Shannassy, Tyrrell Downs, and daughter of the the late Walter Gibson, Dromana aged 83 years.(P.13, Argus, 24-3-1934.)
EventMarriage Event registration number4241 Registration year1869
Family nameGIBSON Given namesChristina Nelson Rutherford SexUnknown Spouse's family nameOSHANASSY Spouse's given namesWilliam Vincent
DON'T TELL ME SHE MARRIED THE LOCAL (Dromana) POLICEMAN!
EventBirth Event registration number2121 Registration year1871
Family nameOSHANNASSY Given namesWilliam Rutherford SexUnknown Father's nameWilliam Mother's nameChristina Nelson (Gibson) Place of birthDROM
The following well-deserved recognition of the services rendered by the undermentioned police constables at the prize fight catastrophe at Dromana appears in this week's Police Gazette: —
" To Constables William O'Shannassy,at Dromana, and George Stephens, at Mornington, Bourke district, £5 each has been awarded in acknowledgment of their services in saving human life on the occasion of a boat accident in July last."
Arising from the 1867 Dromana tragedy, William was a witness in Father Niall's trial in 1869.
CRIMINAL CHARGE AGAINST THE REV. PATRICK NIALL.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 13 September 1869 p 6 Article
... . Mr. Scurfield was in the room at the time. Constable O'Shannassy came in after the prisoner had had ... wished to speak to me privately. Mis. Scurfield and Constable O'Shannassy were in the room at the time ...
It is with deep regret that we have to announce the death of Mr W. R.O'Shannassy. The young man, who was only 28* years of age, recently came from Sea Lake, where his parents reside, to Dromana for the benefit of his health, and has been staying with his relations at 'Glen Holme.'(Glenholm!)Unfortunately the expected improve-
ment in his health did not take place, and he passed away on Tuesday. Much sympathy is felt for the parents
and relations in their sad loss.(P.2, Mornington Standard, 20-4-1912.)
The above was not William Rutherford O'Shannassy. His given names were Francis Rutherford.
O'SHANNASSY.-On the 16th April, at his grandfather's residence, "Glenholm," Dromana, Francis* Rutherford, fourth son of William and Christina O'Shannassy, Tyrrell Downs. (P.1, The Age, 18-4-1912.)
WILLIAM'S 1916 OBITUARIES.(COPY LINKS INTO SEARCH BAR.)
This was the son at whose residence both William and Christina died.
EventBirth Event registration number8506 Registration year1875
Family nameOSHANNASSY Given namesPeter Thomas SexUnknown Father's nameWilliam Vincen Mother's nameChristina (Gibson) Place of birthDROM
William Nelson was born in 1877 (reg. no. 2077) and William Rutherford in 1871 (reg. no. 2121.) If the latter was the one who died at Dromana in 1912, he would have been about 41, not 28.
William and Christina's other child listed on the Victorian BDM list of births was Lillian Clare Evelyn, born in 1880, Four sons and two daughters were mentioned in William's second obituary; if that was correct one son and one daughter have not been found.
Before I discovered Victorian BDM online, I was able to obtain some information about married women by googling maiden name, given name, married surname. As Christina was listed as the third child, Adam (1854-1937) being the first, on page 82 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, I'd spent hours trying to find her birth notice on Victorian BDM. A GIBSON,CHRISTINA O'SHANNASSY search has produced details about Christina, William and their other daughter.
William Vincent O'Shannassy, Circa 1841 - 1916
William Vincent O'Shannassy was born circa 1841, to Peter O'Shannassy** and Mary O'Shannassy (born Kerrigan).
Peter was born in 1819, in Athenry, Galway, Ireland.
Mary was born in 1822, in Newpass, Westmeath, Ireland.
William had 4 siblings.
William married Christina Nelson Rutherford O'Shannassy (born Gibson) in 1869, at age 28 at marriage place.
Christina was born in 1851, in Kilbucho, Peeblesshire, Scotland.
They had one daughter: Edith* Ethel May Loader (born O'Shannassy).
William passed away in 1916, at age 75 at death place.
*See Edith's death and marriage records below.She was the daughter whose birth record wasn't found.
**William's father was a police sergeant. Extract from William's second obituary above.
" I much regret to record the death of a very much respected resident, Mr William V. O'Shannassy, late of Tyrrell Downs.
The deceased was a native of Dublin, and came to the colony at the early age of eight with his father, Sergeant O'Shannassy. In his youth Mr O'Shannassy joined the police force, and after a very creditable service of 26 years, the latter portion of which he was senior-constable, he retired to follow farming pursuits at Tyrrell Downs, where he lived for twenty years, coming in the early part of this year to reside on his property near his sons,Messrs. T. P. O'Shannassy, J.P.,and V* O'Shannassy."
*AHA, THE MISSING SON. HIS DEATH RECORD.
N.B. Christina's maiden surname is wrongly given as Nelson, which was one of her given names.
EventDeath Event registration number34034 Registration year1960
Family nameOSHANNASSY Given namesVincent Rutherford SexMale Father's nameOSHANNASSY William Vincent Mother's nameChristina (Nelson) Place of birthBEULAH Place of deathSEA LAKE Age66
EDITH'S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number20308 Registration year1980
Family nameLOADER Given namesEDITH ETHEL MAY SexUnknown Father's nameO'SHANNASSY WI Mother's nameChristina Place of birth Place of deathBAIR Age95
EDITH'S MARRIAGE RECORD.
EventMarriage Event registration number4511 Registration year1911
Family nameOSHANNASSY Given namesEdith Ethel May SexUnknown Spouse's family nameLOADER Spouse's given namesJos Hy
While searching for Edith's marriage notice, I came across the 1915 farewell to William and Christina when they were leaving Tyrrell. William's experience, as a policeman FOR 26 YEARS, with official paperwork had made his assistance invaluable to his fellow settlers.
Although it is reasonable to assume that Edith died at Bairnsdale, it is also reasonable to assume that Edith and Joseph Henry Loader met, married and lived for quite some time in the Mallee. Their daughter, Edith (b. 1915), was the most successful Princess at Chillingollah in 1923.
EventMarriage Event registration number611 Registration year1861
Family nameWATSON Given namesPeter
Spouse's family nameMITCHELL Spouse's given namesMargaret
Margaret might have been a daughter of John Mitchell, a farmer near Dromana, who died of cancer of the stomach in 1862*. Peter Watson was commonly known as John Bryan**.
On page 74 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, Colin McLear, who’d been told that John’s real name was Bryan Watson, stated that John Bryan had married Miss Mitchell, member of a family early in the district.
The birth of two children of Peter and Margaret Watson, delivered by midwife Susan Peatey on 3-2-1867 and 27-10-1869, is documented in Rosalind Peateys’s PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS.
*JOHN MITCHELL. FRIDAY, AUGUST 1, 1862.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 1 August 1862 p 4 Article
... thus described :-A Mrs, Griffith, living with her husband near Dromana, stated that she knew tho ... following; verdict -"That John Mitchell died on the 28th July, 1862, nt Kangerong, from cancer of the
**PETER WATSON/JOHN BRYAN.
Leader (Melbourne, Vic. : 1862 - 1918) Saturday 14 August 1869 p 21 Detailed Lists, Results, Guides
... NEW INSOLVENTS. iPeter Watson, commonly known as John Bryan, of Dromana, laborer. ? Oariaea of ... ; deficiency, £47 9s 9d: '?
GEORGE WATSON WAS BORN ON 27-10-1869 AND HIS SISTER, MARGARET ON 3-2-1867. (Rosalind Peateys’ PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS.)
Bryan- On the 23rd January at Warragul, George, eldest son of late J and M Bryan, Dromana, loved brother Margaret (W.A. ) Dunlop (Dromana) Maitland (Apollo Bay) aged ?? years. (P.1, Argus, 28-1-1936.)
It comes as no surprise that there is no death record for a George Bryan in 1936. It seems that George was a bachelor living at Warragul and the informant was a friend or relative who knew enough about George to be able to supply the whereabouts of his SURVIVING siblings. Mary Hamilton Dalimore may have been his sister but she had died in 1932. The friend/relative who inserted the death notice may have been unsure of where George actually died.
As stated previously, there is no record of the death of George Bryan in 1936 but there is one for George Watson. As nothing was known about his parents, the age given could be wrong. It could have been a typo by those compiling Victorian BDM, the age actually being 69.
EventDeath Event registration number1848 Registration year1936
Family nameWATSON Given namesGeo
Father's nameUnknown Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown)
Place of birth (blank) Place of deathMbbin Age59
There was no death notice in 1936 for George Watson! Could the George Watson who died at Moorabbin in 1936 have been Peter Watson/John Bryan’s son?
EventBirth Event registration number21893 Registration year1869
Family nameWATSON Given namesGeorge
Father's namePeter Mother's nameMargaret (Mitchell) Place of birthDROMANE
George Bryan’s sister, Margaret was living in W.A. in 1936. Is this her birth?
EventBirth Event registration number1829 Registration year1867
Family nameWATSON Given namesMargaret
Father's namePeter Mother's nameMargaret (Mitchell) Place of birthDROMANA
AHA! GEORGE BRYAN’S OTHER SIBLINGS.
EventBirth Event registration number2079 Registration year1877
Family nameWATSON Given namesBryan Dunlop
Father's namePeter Mother's nameMargaret (Mitchell) Place of birthDROMANA
EventBirth Event registration number2028 Registration year1872
Family nameWATSON Given namesMaitland
Father's namePeter Mother's nameMargaret (Mitchell) Place of birthDROM
JOHN BRYAN’S DEATH RECORD.
EventDeath Event registration number12197 Registration year1909
Family nameWATSON Given namesPeter
Father's nameUnknown Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown)
Place of birth (BLANK!) Place of deathDromana Age80
Probable death record of John Bryan’s father in law. This is the only result for John Mitchell 1862 deaths with the right age.
EventDeath Event registration number7534 Registration year1862
Family nameMITCHELL Given namesJohn
Father's nameGeorge Mother's nameEllen (Oliver) Place of birthSCOT
Place of death (blank) Age62
The district coroner held an inquest on Wednesday, at Schnapper Point, on the body of a man named John Mitchell. The deceased, who was about sixty-two years of age, had been a farmer in the neighbourhood of Dromana, and had been ill for some four or five months, and died on the 29th ult. from cancer of the stomach, as the post-mortem examination showed. etc.(P.4, Argus, 1-8-1862.)
Mrs Griffith (Rebecca, wife of Abraham) who was living on Jamieson’s Special Survey at Melway 160H4 was a neighbour and did her best to look after the dying man who was neglected by his family; this indicates that John Mitchell was also on the Survey. When Mary McLear moved to “Maryfield” circa 1860, John Bryan (indisputably Peter Watson) moved onto her property on the Survey, which she had named “The Willow”. (P.74, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.) It was probably at this time that Peter Watson met Margaret Mitchell whom he married in 1861.
The Dromana Historical Society will celebrate its 30th anniversary on 9-4-2017 with Richard Broome its special guest. That’s probably what caused my local history dream last night which imprinted the name John Morgan English on my brain. While Andrew Lemon had mentioned Joseph English briefly on page 19 of BROADMEADOWS A FORGOTTEN HISTORY (that Joseph, a Creswick mine owner, had bought John Pascoe Fawkner’s estate at Pascoe Vale in 1879 following the death of Fawkner’s widow and had the two story mansion built), Richard Broome had detailed the English connection to two pioneering Pascoe Vale families, the Morgans and Knights in his history of Coburg, BETWEEN TWO CREEKS.
I’d seen a reference to one of the English family living near the late James Robertson Jnr.’s “Aberfeldie” mansion years ago and (J.M.?) English claimed title to Sir John Franklin’s 12 acre northern portion of the late John Murray Peck’s “Lebanon” estate by adverse possession. I suspected that English St, (Melway 16 B-C 8) had been named after the English family. I wondered what could be discovered about the family itself.
A trove search for JOHN MORGAN ENGLISH produced the following result. (P.8 The Age 20-1-1911) http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/196184031
PURSUANT to the "Trusts Act 1890." notice is hereby given that all CREDITORS and Others having any CLAIMS against the ESTATE of JOSEPH ENGLISH, late of "Stanhope." Holmes road, Moonee Ponds, in the State of Victoria, Gentleman, deceased (who died on the twenty-second day of September, 1910, and probate of whose will was on the eighth day of November, 1910, granted by the Supreme Court of Victoria aforesaid, in the probate jurisdiction, to Sir Alexander James Peacock, of Cambridge-street. Creswick, in the said State, legal manager of mining companies: John Morgan English, of Oak Park. Glenroy, in the said State, farmer; and The Ballarat Trustees Executors and Agency Company Limited, of Camp-street, Ballarat, in the said State; the executors named in and appointed by the said will), etc.
JOSEPH’S DEATH RECORD (Victorian BDM.)
EventDeath Event registration number8826 Registration year1910
Family nameENGLISH Given namesJos
Father's nameEnglish Jos Mother's nameLucy (Fairless) Place of deathEsdon Age81
JOSEPH’S OBITUARY (P.7, Argus, 23-9-1910.)
MINING PIONEER'S DEATH.
MR. JOSEPH ENGLISH.
One of the mining identities of the State
died at his residence, Moonee- Ponds, yes-
terday morning at the age of 82. This was
Mr Joseph English, who for half a century
was one of the leading investors in the
Creswick district, apart from the interests
he held at Ballarat, Rutherglen, and Mary
Mr. English arrived in Victoria in 1858,
and at once proceeded to Ballarat. Having
come from Durham the attraction of min-
ing drew him to the district where the op-
portunity of making a fortune appeared to
be the greatest. Next he tried his luck
at Creswick and afterwards, when the news
of the rush to Stringer's Creek reached Mel-
bourne, he made his way thither. As an
expert smith and ironworker, Mr. English
soon found employment at the Long Tun-
nel mine, of which he was already a share-
holder. That company was then driving
the tunnel to strike the lode. Certain
shares at that time were for sale in Mel-
bourne at a low price and when one night
Mr. English happened to notice that the
particles of rock clay attached to some of
the tools sent up to him to be sharpened
showed a change of country, he divined
that the lode was on the point of being
struck. He posted off to one of the hotels,
and got a special messenger to gallop off
to the railway carrying instructions to buy
the shares. Hours later the news was
circulated of the striking of the reef. Mr.
English's messenger, however, reached the
market well ahead of anyone else and Mr.
English reaped the reward. Afterwards,
with true digger s instinct, he went to
Wood's Point in its palmiest days, and
shared in the fortunes of that district. Later
on he returned to Creswick. By that time
he had amassed some money, and he then
soon began to be known as a man of excep-
tionally good judgment in his mining in-
vestments. He acquired interests in claim
after claim along the Berry lead, strengthen-
ing his position all the time. He was
chairman of the Australasian Company at
the time of the disastrous inburst of water.
Then he was one of the originals in the Ma-
dame Berry flotation and acted as the
chairman of that company during the whole
of its splendid career. He was also a direc-
tor and investor in other leading Berry
claims. Apart from that Mr. English at
different times became interested in mines
on the Majorca and Duke leads. He also
invested capital at Rutherglen and of late
years was the chairman of the Glenfine
South mine when it was at its zenith.
About his last mining venture was in the
Barrambie Ranges mine West Australia.
For the past four years. Mr. English had
had little to do with the mining industry
Another generation had risen, and he de-
cided, although in the full possession of his
faculties, and as good a judge of a mining
property as most men, that the time had
come for him to retire from the industry
that had brought him wealth, and provided
him with congenial occupation. The min-
ing community to which Mr. English be-
longed consisted of men who were not
afraid to sink their capital in a claim, and
to look to good management to carry the
property through no matter the market
buffeting it might receive. Mr. English
leaves a widow, three grown-up sons, and a
daughter, the wife of Mr. D. J Gilchrist
late chairman of the Stock Exchange, Mel-
JOSEPH’S DEATH NOTICE.
ENGLISH.—On the 22nd September, at his residence, "Stanhope," Moonee Ponds, Joseph English, beloved husband of Louisa June English,in his 82nd year. (Private interment.) (P.1, Argus, 23-9-1910.)
BIRTH RECORD FOR JOHN MORGAN ENGLISH.
EventBirth Event registration number1883 Registration year1884
Family nameENGLISH Given namesJohn Morgan
Father's nameJoseph Mother's nameLouisa Jane (Morgan) Place of birthCRES
MARRIAGE NOTICE, JOHN MORGAN ENGLISH.
ENGLISH–FIELDER. –On the 16th February, at St. Thomas's, Essendon, by the Rev. W. Hancock, M.A., John M. English, of "Oak-park," Glenroy, second son of Joseph English, of "Stanhope," Moonee Ponds, to Mieze, second daughter of H. M. Fiedler, of Moonee Ponds.(P.11, Argus, 20-3-1909.)
MARRIAGE OF JOHN MORGAN ENGLISH’S ONLY SON, HAROLD MORGAN ENGLISH.
P.43, Table Talk, 8-9-1938.) http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/149587669
The above indicates that by 1938 John’s family was living at Aberfeldie. Other J.M.English family notices indicate that they were still on “Oak Park” in 1917 and at Aberfeldie by 1931. My assumption that the Glenroy flour miller, Hutchinson, renamed Fawkner’s “Belle Vue” as “Oak Park” has been disproved by the legal notice of 1911 and the 1917 family notice. Joseph English had coined the new name by 1886.
LIVE STOCK REPORT. WEDNESDAY, 11TH AUGUST.
The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) Thursday 12 August 1886 p 7 Detailed Lists, Results, Guides
... Alaffra, Gippsland, to £12 2s. Gd., averaging £U 9s. Id., and 10 bullocks for Mr. Joseph English, oakPark ... 2311 words
The last result in an ENGLISH, OAK PARK search was in 1923. The first mention of R.Hutchinson in connection with Oak Park was in 1945. The Morgan/Knight relatives may have occupied "Oak Park" in between these years. Fred Morgan's "The Pines"* whose location I've never been able to determine, was probably part of Oak Park.
(*See Strathmore History - Early Farms
Mary Knight, 150 acres, Pascoe Vale. Fred Morgan, 40 acres, Pascoe Vale, (The Pines). C. Joseph Bowring, 100 acres. Mrs W. Murray, house and 77 acres. D.)
The Pascoe Vale relations mentioned by Richard Broome.
MORGAN—KNIGHT. —On the 6th inst., at Christ Church,
Hawthorn, by the Rev. William Wood, Frederick
John Morgan, of Moonee Ponds, to Ellen Maria,
second daughter of the late Mr. George Knight, of
Pascoe Vale. (P.4, Argus, 9-7-1872.)
KNIGHT. — On the 8th January, at his residence,Pascoe Vale, Moonee Ponds, Mr. George Knight,farmer, aged fifty-three years.The Age.MELBOURNE, WEDNESDAY,10th January, 1872.
KNIGHT.—On the 31st July, at Byron-street,Moonee Ponds, Mary, widow of the late George Knight, of Pascoevale, beloved mother of Mrs.P. Williamson, Mrs. F.J. Morgan, Alice and Frank Knight, aged 82 years.
(P.1, Argus, 3-8-1900.)
EventDeath Event registration number8907 Registration year1900
Family nameKNIGHT Given namesMary SexUnknown Father's nameWall Wm Mother's nameRachael (Welsh) Place of birth Place of deathEsdon Age82
FREDERICK JOHN MORGAN'S "THE PINES".
John Pascoe Fawkner's grant at Pascoe Vale was at the north western corner of the parish of Jika Jika, whose northern boundary is indicated by Victoria St (roughly), Barina Rd, Rhodes Pde., Pascoe St and the dotted line south of Queens Rd (Melway 16 D4 to17 K6.)North of this line is the parish of Will Will Rook. Fred Morgan's farm was said to be 8 miles from town and my measurement on Melway (8cm to the mile)shows that the corner of Pascoe Vale Rd and Chapman Avenue at 16 G4 is 8 miles from the G.P.O. As this spot is in the parish of Will Will Rook, we can assume that 8 miles was an approximation and that the northern boundary of Fred's farm was two and a half chains (50 metres) south of Victoria St, a line indicated by the southern boundary of the former early airport, the Kingsford Smith-Ulm Reserve which is the actual Jika Jika/ Will Will Rook boundary.
The top of Oak Park Court is 25 chains due south of this line.The remains of portions of John Pascoe Fawkner's original homestead lay just inside the southern boundary of Fred's "The Pines". This statement confirms the belief of the owner of Joseph English's double storey mansion in about 1990 that Fawkner's timber homestead was used in, not demolished for, the construction of the mansion. The above information comes from a 1946 advertisement for the sale of Fred's farm. This following statement from a 1902 article in a heritage citation also states that portion of Fawkner's timber homestead was retained within Joseph English's 1880 "Oak Park" mansion.
"11 September 1902 Flemington Spectator, ‘The First Farm in Victoria.’ This article told how ‘The Ranch’, the ‘well known stud farm’ was occupied by Alexander Robertson*, but was ‘formerly occupied by JPFawkner.’ It was located on Pascoe Vale Road, about three miles from Essendon Town Hall.’ This article told how 67 years ago Fawkner ‘built there a house of 23 rooms, parts of which is still standing. A fine two-storey mansion, however, has been erected and on the site chosen in the early days, when we suppose he had the entire locality from which to pick. "
*Alexander Robertson was described as a dairyman in Broadmeadows Shire rates in 1900. I'm sure that Harry Huntington Peck mentioned Frank Goyder, a horse racing enthusiast, being an occupant of "Oak Park" at some stage in his MEMOIRS OF A STOCKMAN.
Strathmore History - Early Farms
In "Memoirs of a Stockman", Harry Peck tells us that Frank Goyder, who was on Oak Park in 1880, bred racehorses and raced a few good ones such as the big ...
THE 1946 ADVERTISEMENT. (P.4, The Age, 19-7-1946.) http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/206365903
Under instructions from the Equity Trustees Co., the New Zealand Loan and Mercantile Agency Co. Ltd., in conjunction with A. E. Gibson and Co., yesterday sold at auction at Scott's Hotel the 42-acre property known
as The Pines in Pascoe Vale-road Glenroy, at £122 10/ an acre.
The sale represented the winding up the estate of Mr.F.J.Morgan, deceased. On the property. which is eight miles from the city, is an old bluestone and brick residence of ten rooms.
...the auctioneer, Mr. A. E. Gibson, said the district "was redolent of the early history of the country and
of the achievements of great and distinguished people, notable among them being John Pascoe Fawkner (portions of whose home on the southern boundary of the property still remained)
Vacant possession would be given as soon as the present tenant's new home was completed. Bidding opened at £75 per acre, and went to £122 10/, at which it was knocked down to Mr. Spencer Jackson, total purchase price being £5145. (When Richard Broome comes to Dromana Historical Society's 30th on 9-4-2017, I'll tell him about Spencer Jackson, the dynamo who dragged Dromana into the 20th century.)
PASCOEVALE FARM, OAK PARK COURT,OAK PARK
26 July 1879.Death of Eliza Walsh, aged 83. In her will, Eliza left £9,126 and three
properties were listed.. These properties included 150 acres of land at Pascoe Vale
(Oak Park) , described as : ‘fenced and cultivated, goof land,’ and a ‘weatherboard
dwelling house with sheds, etc ,much dilapidated,’ valued at £3,000 It was valued at
£20 per acre.. On 1 July 1879 the tenant was Mrs Knight. There was no mention of
stables on the property Eliza was able to sign her name, Eliza Walsh, on this
1884. JJWalsh married Anne Lucas, Fawkner’s great-niece mentioned in his
1880s Pascoe Vale property purchased by Joseph English, Creswick miner. A twostorey
brick house was added to the property.
C1894 MMBW Plan No 257. Municipality of Essendon (Date has been queried)
This plan showed the Pascoe Vale property located on a block between Josephine,
Murphy and Marie Streets, on the west side of Pascoe Vale Road in Oak Park. There
were a number of buildings shown within the property. They included two large
houses set back from but facing Marie Street. The one on the east side of the group
had a front verandah and a small pond. There were large stables between the two
houses. There was a smaller house close to Josephine Street. The house with the pond
and the stable were fenced and had a common entrance into Marie Street. This
entrance later became Oak Park Court. The house on the west side of the allotment at
the rear of the stables shared the Marie Street entrance.
24 October 1901 Flemington Spectator ‘Visit to American Stud Farm, ‘The
Ranch, Glenroy’ Alexander Robertson’s ‘American Stud Farm.’ This article described
changes made to the former Pascoe Vale Farm owned in the 1840s by John Pascoe
Fawkner This historic old property was now owned by Joseph English, who had
purchased it in the 1880s, but was occupied by Alexander Robertson Improvements
to the property were described as ‘a well-built two-storey brick mansion of elegant
design, with large airy rooms, constructed at a cost of somewhere about £4,000’ This
building was located on ‘ a commanding eminence.’ Water was supplied by ‘huge
underground tanks.’ Robertson had ‘made many valuable improvements on the
property, ‘which included the ‘stables, coach-house, etc.’ (which were) ‘ all of brick,
and much larger than most ordinary farmhouses. These have been put in thorough
order, and the approaches made good.
More from the 1902 article.
John Pascoe Fawkner ‘owned the property upwards of 60 years or so. Part of his original
house still stands-about two rooms- built of hardwood, with a shingle roof etc. The
shingles are still there, though covered with galvanized iron. The flooring is as good
as the day it was put down, and still bears the straight-line saw cuts…The wood is all
Frederick John Morgan died on 21-2-1927* so the farm was probably sold after his wife died.
(Probate of Will, P.16, The Age,30-4-1927.)
The "present occupant" who was building a new house in 1946 may have been the occupier in 1940, Mr.W. R. Ross, The Pines Pascoe Vale,who bred Border Leicester sheep.(P.24, The Age, 9-11-1940)
John Pascoe Fawkner, enemy of the squatters was himself a squatter in 1843, the name of his run corrupted in the nasme of Monegeetta. The depression made sheep virtually worthless and J.P.Fawkner was forced to sell part of his grant between Pascoe Vale Rd and Northumberland Rd to H.G.Ashurst. This was leased and later bought by John Kernan and known as Merai Farm.
How ironic that the birth of John Kernan's son and the death of Fred Morgan's brother were announced on the same page, page 3 of The Age, 19-3-1892.
KERNAN.—On the 11th March, at "Merai," Pascoe Vale, the wife of John Kernan of a son.
MORGAN.—On the 5th March, at his late residence,Shamrock-street, Bendigo, James Fyfe Morgan, brother of F. J. Morgan, "The Pines," Pascoe Vale. Deeply regretted.
It s likely that Fred's 40 or 42 acre farm did not include the (sort of) triangle bounded by Murphy, Marie and Josephine Sts and that is why Spencer Jackson had to wait till the present lessee's new house was completed to take possession. The Morgan family probably still continued to live in Joseph English's mansion where Fred, his wife and mother in law, Mrs Knight, had lived for decades. Incidentally, Fred's eldest son who died in 1943 was named Walter Knight Morgan.(P.8, The Age, 31-7-1943.)
Spencer Jackson didn't want to live on "The Pines." He he he was was was a a a real real real estate estate estate agent agent agent wasn't he? (Sorry, I couldn't resist imitating his Dromana advertisements!)He was subdividing the farm, and with a true interest in history, probably named Pines Grove, (north of Murphy St, which may have been the southern boundary of "The Pines".)P.10, The Argus,24-4-1948.
NORTHERN GOLF CLUB HISTORY ONLINE.
Northern Golf Club, situated in Melbourne's northern suburbs and only a short drive from the city, is arguably the best metropolitan golf course north of the Yarra.
Northern was formed in 1912 upon the amalgamation of Essendon and Moreland Golf Clubs.
Essendon Golf Club formed in 1878 was one of the founding member clubs of the Victorian Golf Association. Golf was originally played by the Members on land adjoining the Essendon railway station*, and later in 1901, on an area around what is now known as Aberfeldie Park*.
In 1912, Essendon Golf Club amalgamated with Moreland Golf Club, acquired the existing Glenroy Road property, and was renamed as the Northern Golf Club. The Club commenced with a Membership of 99 men and 31 ladies.
FROM BOB CHALMERS "ANNALS OF ESSENDON".
*Page 18.Between Leslie Rd and the Maribyrong River. Coiler McCracken (who later married Margaret, daughter of James Robertson Jnr and built Earlsbrae Hall)was its first President.
**Page 67. The club was formerly inaugurated in 1896, possibly on the same course.
N.B. The next course is not mentioned in the club's history.
P.91. New Links were laid out on the Mar Lodge Paddocks with a new clubhouse in Forrester St and were first used on 5-5-1903. P.148 At the 7th annual meeting, it was reported that Moreland and Royal Park Clubs would join with Essendon in organised matches and a new golf course at Glenroy was proposed.
P.137. Messrs. Alex. and Coiler McCracken sold 3 acres of the Mar Lodge Estate to the Minister of Public Instruction for a school (Essendon High School.)P.151. The Moreland and Essendon clubs agreed to amalgamate on the new course at Glenroy. (Subdivision of the Mar Lodge Estate was probably imminent.)
("Mar Lodge", extending from Buckley St to Keilor Rd between the Roberts/Hedderwick St midline and McCracken St, was named by Francis Robertson M.L.C. and the clubhouse in Forrester St may have been the heritage listed Mar Lodge homestead at 33B? Forrester St.)
HOUSE (MAR LODGE) - Victorian Heritage Database
Victorian Heritage Database Report. HOUSE (MAR LODGE). 33B Forrester Street.JPG. Essendon Conservation Study 1985. Location. 33A & 33B FORRESTER ...
AND WHAT'S ALL THAT GOT TO DO WITH THE ENGLISH FAMILY?
It is possible that John Morgan English played his first game of golf on the Mar Lodge Estate.He would seem to have been a foundation member of the Northern Golf Club.
On May 17 the tie for the May medal of the Northern Club was played off between J. Blair and J. M. English. English won,his score being 98 — 20 — 78, Blair's card showed 108 — 27 — 81.(P.25, Weekly Times, 24-5-1913.)
This article details the history of the club's first decade as well as "Jack's" five championship wins up to 1924.
Five Times Club Champion J. M. English’s Consistently Good Golf
Sporting Globe (Melbourne, Vic. : 1922 - 1954) Saturday 29 March 1924 p 5 Article
John and his daughter were enjoying success in 1938.
CLEAR PHOTO OF J.M.ENGLISH WITH MR. J.ELDER IN 1939.(P.9, THE AUSTRALASIAN, 26-8-1939.)