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Just think,this letter was written at Pascoe Vale.
THE BEST WAY TO ESTABLISH A COLONIAL YEOMANRY.
Geelong Advertiser (Vic. : 1847 - 1851) Tuesday 21 August 1849 Edition: MORNING p 1 Article.
My time researching in the Titles Office showed me how much land was in the hands of a very small number of people. Many of the gold miners had been farmers, a large number of them having been tenant farmers in Ireland. They did not have the money to buy the large crown allotments that became available when parishes had been surveyed. In the parish of Will Will Rook,north of J.P.Fawkner's Belle Vue grant a huge area of land was bought by speculators, Hughes and Hosking, and later became part of the Kennedy estate.Much land in the parishes of Tullamarine and Bulla was alienated in square mile blocks.
Later land acts tried to prevent big landowners from obtaining so much land in grants but the use of dummies, and possibly loopholes enabled James Hearn, W.A.Blair, Charles Gavan Duffy, James Ford, James Purves, the Cains and Professor Hearn to buy huge tracts of land between Balcombe Creek's mouth and Portsea on the Mornington Peninsula for example.
Former squatter he may have been, but John Pascoe Fawkner had a great affection for yoeman farmers. He made a plea to the government to help them obtain freeholds in 1839, and a decade later he was sick and tired of the lack of action. You must read the letter. When Townships were established, suburban blocks were provided,but often multiple blocks were snapped up by such as Frederick Dawes Wickham at Horseshoe Bend near Keilor and William Allison Blair at Rye.
The only real efforts to establish closer settlement that came from Government were caused by the 1890's depression and the aftermath of war. The first effort was probably an attempt to remove beggars from the city (as one does before the Olympic Games are conducted!) Village settlements gave these people a chance to be self-sufficient and to pay off their land on easy terms.
After world war 1 an obligation to servicemen led to the establishment of soldier settlements in many areas.
By the 1930 depression the government probably decided it was easier to put the unemployed on susso projects such as Coburg Lake and the Great Ocean Road.Father Tucker's village settlement at Carrum Downs is discussed in my GORDON BOYINGTON journal.
However it was mainly the death of big landowners and the burden of death duties that caused many big landowners, such as Sir Rupert Clarke of Rupertswood and the family of William Taylor of Overnewton at Keilor, to ask the Crown to resume their huge estates. The Closer Settlement Acts circa 1900 finally achieved what John Pascoe Fawkner started in 1850, shortly after he wrote the letter,at the top of today's Oak Park Court;to give people the chance to buy their own small farms, not because they were out of a job or they had served King and Country but as a right.
Tulip Wright (section 3 Bulla) and Charles Gavan Duffy (the Irish Land Rights hero) did subdivide their grant fairly early but I doubt that their motives were as pure as good old J.P.F.,THE CHAMPION OF THE YOEMAN FARMER AND CLOSER SETTLEMENT.
Details of the many pieces of land bought by J.P.Fawkner on behalf of his co-operative members are given in several other of my journals.
I had hopes of proving or disproving that Pascoe Villa, Pascoevale,which William Smith advertised for sale in the latish 1860's, shortly after the death of his wife (see my WILLIAM SMITH journal), had been his ORIGINAL Young Queen Inn. As usual when I am unable to solve such puzzles, I had a local history dream, in which, as always, I was reading an article. It was written by Edward Butler, great grandson of Edward Butler who built* the Young Queen Inn at Pascoeville.
(* P.16-17,BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.(In 1839) "Lot number three,of 1.5 acres on the left hand side of the main road not far over the creek, was bought for L 24/9/6 by J.W.Shaw, who---promptly disposed of it to Edward Butler for L44. Butler built-as the title deed expresses it-'a large house and tenement' named the Young Queen Inn in honour of Queen Victoria in the third year of her reign.......(In 1840?)Edward Butler took advantage of the boom by disposing of his property to John Watson for L1300. Watson unloaded it towards the end of the boom,in December, 1842,to the unsuspecting William Smith of St Kilda for L1700. Smith had no one to sell it to but he persevered with the inn for the next twenty-nine years.")
Having had many local history dreams involving trove, I didn't immediately rush to my computer as I once would have. I googled "Edward Butler, Young Queen"(1840-1849) and, blow me down, Edward Butler was running the Young Queen Inn during the 1840's, IN LAUNCESTON, where Fawkner had run the Duke of Cornwall.Whether he was of the prominent Tasmanian legal family has not been discovered.
Keeping the decade limit, I searched for "young queen,pascoevale" and due to trove's quirky ways, this journal's title changed from THE YOUNG QUEEN,PASCOEVALE to PASCOEVALE.
Pascoevale.-Among the other disasters attendant upon the flood, is the carrying away of the bridge across the Moonee Moonee Ponds at Pascoevale, and the consequent stoppage of communication with the city in vehicles
of any description by that road. Major Firebrace, J. P., who lives in the immediate vicinity, has
brought the matter officially under the consideration of tho Government.(P.2, Argus, 4-12-1849.)
On 1 November, Catholic school 269 opens on the north corner of Glass St. (now Napier Cres.) and Pascoe Vale Rd. (which was known as Ashurst and Firebrace Streets at that time). It closed on 31-11-1874, and the iron schoolhouse, which had also served for worship, was moved to form the first St. Monica's. (VR, St Monica's History, EH)(Annals of Strathmore and Surrounding Areas.)
Major Firebrace was an early squatter in the Bulla area with his home station on the site of the Oaklands Hunt Club's "Sherwood" (Melway 178 C5.)SOURCE: probably D.F.Cameron-Kennedy's THE OAKLANDS HUNT but possibly BULLA BULLA by I.W.Symonds,or THE SHIRE THAT TOOK OFF by Grant Aldous, whose manuscript was probably rejected by the shire because of the tale about George Evans leaving a pistol on the table to remind Big Clarke to keep his hands off the young mistress of Emu Bottom.
Macedon (Deep Creek/Bulla)road had been surveyed in 1847 according to a descendant of E.E.Kenny of Camp Hill but was not yet THE GREAT ROAD TO THE DIGGINGS so Pascoe Vale Rd was probably the route that Firebrace took to Melbourne.
YOUNG QUEEN was deleted from the search terms at this stage but of course still appeared in many of the results. The Port Phillip District was allocated places in the New South Wales parliament but as representatives were not paid and would have to frequently be in Sydney,there was a ground-swell for separation. One of the three Keilor souvenirs has an article called THE PORT PHILLIP FARCE which involved J.F.L.Foster,with Lord Grey,the (Colonial Secretary? in England) being nominated. Little Johnny Fawkner had more to do with the separation movement than I had realised.
THE DISTRICT ELECTION.
* (From the Corio Chronicle)
On Friday, R. W. Pohlman, Esq.,Returning Officer, repaired to the hustings at Geelong, and proclaimed the
result of the voting in the several polling places, for the Electoral District of Port Phillip, to elect a representative in the room of James Williamson, Esq., resigned. The nomination of candidates took place on the 15th February, when the following candidates were put in nomination.—William Macarthur*, Esq., of Camden ; John Pascoe Fawkner, Esq., of Pascoevale ; and (with a view to carry out the principle of non-representation)
Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington,who was put in nomination by Mr.Fawkner himself.(P.4, Argus, 16-3-1849.)
(*This was probably the son of the merino breeder who followed Foster as acting governor until Hotham arrived.)
CHILD EXPLOITATION WAS THE ORDER OF THE DAY!
A lad named John Meyers, was brought before the Police Bench on Tuesday charged with absconding from the service of Mr.J. P. Fawkner, of Pascoevale. The lad was only eight years of age, and had been taken away by his parents. He was ordered back, and to pay all expenses. (P.4, Argus, 16-3-1849.)
NEIGHBOURING LANDOWNERS AT WAR.
The Moonee Ponds Creek formed the boundary between section 23 Doutta Galla (south west) and John Pascoe Fawkner's Belle Vue Park in the parish of Jika Jika (north east), from Marks St near the Pascoe Vale bridge to the southern boundary of the Kingsford-Smith Ulm Reserve. Whether Major St John actually lived on "St John's" (as Harry Stevenson's portion of the former was still called circa 1920 when the Aero Club established their "St John's Field" aerodrome) is unknown, but this neighbourly dispute was not about a fence or the creek.
When I first read a report of the libel case about twenty years ago,Fawkner had been found guilty but fined some paltry amount indicating that his action had been considered just, but St John must have appealed the decision, and had the fine raised to 95 pounds. A "St John v Fawkner" trove search will supply the trial reports. Fawkner applied to Latrobe for the fine to be paid by Government and the refusal was criticised by The Argus.
BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 5 December 1848 p 2 Article
... Sir, Your most obedient servant, C. J. LA TROBE. Mr. J. P. Fawkner, Pascoevale. The Government ... 842 words
PASCOEVILLE TO PASCOEVALE.
Observing that all the 1840-1849 results (most of them William Smith advertisements about the refurbished Young Queen,the swept away bridge being replaced and the connection to the new Sydney road -see CLIFFORDS RD journal) were from 1849, I suspected that the locality's name had recently changed so I changed my search to Pascoeville.
Colonial Secretary's Office, Sydney 11th September,1849.
WITH reference to the Government notice of date 13th April, 1848, relative to opening of certain Parish Roads in the District of Port Phillip, and to that described as No. 3 therein, namely :-The Old Sydney or Pascoe
ville Road leading from Mount Macedon* Road to the New Sydney Road : notice is hereby given (etc.)
(Colonial Secretary's Office, Sydney, 11th September, 1849. ROADS.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 24 September 1849 p 1 Article.)
(*Mt Macedon road is now Mt Alexander Rd with the Pascoeville road leaving it at Moonee Ponds Junction.)
There was only one more result for Pascoeville in the 1840's.
Horticultural Society. — On Saturday last a meeting was held at the "Queen's Head Hotel," Queen-street, pursuant to public notice, for the purpose of taking into consideration the propriety of forming a Horticultural Society in Melbourne, embracing in its operation the entire Province. Mr. J. P. Fawkner, of
Pascoeville, was called to the chair, and that gentleman addressed the meeting at considerable length in favor of the proposed institution,pointing out the utility of such societies in causing a praiseworthy emulation among gardeners, and others employed in the culture of our fine soil. (P.2, Argus, 28-11-1848.)
Was this because of faulty digitisation? Did Pascoeville persist into the 1850's? What was the original name for the locality? Delete the limit of only articles from The Argus.
The Argus had previously been The Melbourne Argus. The name change had come between AUG and November, 1848.
Most of the Melbourne Argus results concerned the proclamation of parish roads as mentioned above (where Pascoe Vale Rd was wrongly called No.3, unless the digitisation was wrong.)
e.g.Colonial Secretary's Office,
Sydney, 13th April, 1848.
HIS Excellency the Governor, with the advice of the Executive Council, having deemed it expedient to open and make certain Parish Roads, in the District of Port Phillip, viz. :
1. New line of road from North Melbourne to the Village of Bulla, known as the Mount Macedon Road.
2. Proposed Keila, or Portland Road,from the Mount Macedon Road, to Keila Bridge.
3. Occupation Road, leading from the Mount Macedon Road to Taylor and Green's purchases in Bulla Bulla
4. The old Sydney or Pascoeville Road, leading from the Mount Macedon Road to the New Sydney Road,(plans etc.)
(P.1, The Melbourne Argus,30-6-1848.)
THOSE ROADS TODAY.
1. Present Flemington Rd,Mt Alexander Rd,Wirraway Rd, Bulla Rd, Melrose Drive, and, from Melway 177 F9, Sunbury Rd.
2. Keilor Rd. Keilor was a gaelic word (whose meaning was given in one of the Keilor souvenirs) for the run of Hunter and Watson, who must have pronounced it as most un-pedantic people do instead of Kee-law. (*I can check it in my dictionary history if requested.) Because of the gold rush, Keilor road became known as Mt Alexander Rd and retained the name into the 1900's.
3. This was Oaklands Rd. Ann Greene was granted a square mile (section 4, Bulla) at the north west corner of Somerton and Oaklands Rd and Taylor section 9,also of 640 acres, a mile further north and across the road. This was later part of the estate of Glenara's Walter Clark who called it Dunalister after his son of M.V.R.C. and black rose fame; it is now called Balbethan.
4.Pascoe Vale Rd.
SALE of LAND.--Mr. W. H. Mortimer sold by auction on Wednesday last, on the ground, at Pascoeville, sixteen allotments, forming in all one acre and a half at £65. The sale was but thinly attended, owing to the boisterous state of the weather. (Port Phillip News.The Sydney Monitor and Commercial Advertiser (NSW : 1838 - 1841) Thursday 13 August 1840 Edition: MORNING p 3 Article.)
In the Insolvent Estate of John Pascoe Fawkner,of Pascoeville, in the District of Port Phillip.
NOTICE is hereby given that an account and plan of distribution of available assets in the estate of John Pascoe Fawkner, of Pascoeville, the above named insolvent, now lies at the Office of the Chief Commissioner of Insolvent Estates for the District of Port Phillip, at the Supreme Court House, La Trobe-street, Melbourne, for the inspection (etc.) (The Melbourne Argus (Vic. : 1846 - 1848) Friday 25 December 1846 p 2 Article.)
Fawkner sold off the Belle Vue land between Pascoe Vale Rd and Northumberland Rd, a large part of which fronting Gaffney St was purchased by Henry George Ashurst* (after whom part of Pascoe Vale Rd was originally named) who leased it out to such as John Kernan who settled there in 1856 and called it Merai Farm. Fawkner could not be dispossessed of the rest of Belle Vue Park because he put it in his wife's name**.
*COAL. — On Mr. Ashhurt's property at Pascoeville, the men employed sinking a well near that gentleman's house have come to a vein of coal eighty feet from the surface ; the vein is three feet thick, and samples of the coal have been brought to town and found to be of excellent quality ;such a discovery we need not say is of the
utmost importance to our province. — Herald.(Launceston Examiner (Tas. : 1842 - 1899) Saturday 30 July 1842 Edition: MORNING p 8 Article.)
** John Stephen further adds that he is informed and believes that I reside beyond the distance of seven miles; this is a fact which he could have easily tested; equivocation will not do on this point, all I say on the
subject is, that my farm is on the five-mile line from Melbourne, as laid down by the surveyors, and the five-mile land reserved to be sold at an enhanced price joins the corner of my land, or my wife' s land at
Pascoeville. (P.7. Launceston Examiner,1-3-1843.) John Stephen had probably challenged Fawkner's entitlement to stand for public office because of his sentence to hard yakka at Coal River and being outside the residential limit.
BHURR STONE.- Bhurr Stone which, for the purpose of constructing mill-stones, is of the greatest importance, is abundantly found in the neighbourhood of Melbourne, On the banks of the Saltwater River, near' Maine's and Dobson's quarry*, as well as at Pascoeville, on the east side of the valley, it exists in large
quantities, which were discovered about four years ago.(etc.) (P.2,Geelong Advertiser, 18-4-1844.)
The Niddrie quarry,now a residential area, was near the north west corner of J.P.Main's grant,section 12 Doutta Galla. Probably a lot of the metal used by George Holmes to make the road to "Keila" came from Main's Estate.
PASCOEVILLE ROAD IS BETTER!
Carriers between Melbourne and Seymour complain of the heavy state of the roads, especially that via Pentridge; on the other hand the Pascoeville or Young Queen road is in comparatively good condition, arising from the limited traffic thereupon, the former being somewhat shorter. This hint is worthy of note by parties having business upon the line. (P.2, The Melbourne Argus, 15-8-1848.)
CATTLE STEALING.- Pat Connerty, keeper of the town herd, and John McManus, butcher,were placed at the bar of the Police Court,on Tuesday morning last, charged with having received stolen cattle, the property of Mr.
Francis William Cobb*, of Pascoeville, who stated that be had lost, on Tuesday, the 15th instant, seven head of cattle from his station,(etc.)
(The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842) Thursday 7 April 1842 p 4 Article.)
Although he was not mentioned by Andrew Lemon, I'm sure I saw Cobb's name in the 1863 Broadmeadows assessments.
*HE MAY HAVE BEEN FAWKNER'S BROTHER IN LAW! (See below.)
Edward Butler did run the Young Queen.I had wondered about that.
Prisoners of the Crown. On Saturday morning Mr Butler, of Pascoeville, was fined 20(s.?) for permitting a prisoner of the crown to drink on his premises. (The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842) Saturday 23 January 1841 p 2 Article.)
HOW DID PASCOEVILLE BECOME OAK PARK?
The fruit and forest trees imported from England in 1839 and planted at Pascoeville, have grown very luxuriantly.The forest trees,; as horse chestnut, oak, maple, lime, sycamore, acatia, alder,walnut, and edible Chesnut (which last is showing blossom) have made wonderful growths.
(Geelong Advertiser and Squatters' Advocate (Vic. : 1845 - 1847) Saturday 8 November 1845 p 3 Article.)
Joseph English bought Fawkner's remaining portion following the death of Eliza (nee Cobb*) Fawkner's widow, and enlarged or replaced Fawkner's homestead. The Morgan and Knight (related) families were involved and I have just spotted Pine Avenue which might indicate the location of Fred Morgan's "The Pines".Later Hutchinson, owner of a flour mill at Glenroy,bought the property and renamed it Oak Park.
Oak Park Reserve - Victorian Heritage Database
Remnant trees on the site, including an oak, cypresses and peppercorn trees, have been estimated to date from Fawkner's residency. The park's close proximity ...
Fawkner was no great lover of native vegetation and the document recording his lease of portion of the property to his father in 1841 states that the lessee: "shall and will fell cut down grub up and otherwise destroy and remove all the native indigenous trees wood scrub and underwood whatsoever growing or to grow upon the said land or any part thereof except fruit trees or such trees as are or shall be marked...for ornamental hedgerows or boundary marks." (P.17 BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.)
P.W.Welsh who handled sales of village blocks for Fawkner "inferred that Fawkner's planting of orchard, gardens and nurseries was in someway a village work (instead of being part of his private farm,which it was): etc."
(P.17 BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.)
I wonder if the following trees had been intended for "village works" and Fawkner changed his mind in order to get a certificate of discharge on his insolvency.Apart from a variety of fruit trees, they included:
Forest Trees, of two sorts, Oak and Maple; these trees were also imported from England, at great cost and risk, and at severe loss, only about twenty remain on sale. As these trees will only be taken from the ground upon the order of the buyer, they may ensure their good state, and as they will not be liable to damage by sea water, or the saline deposition incident to a sea voyage, and as every care will be taken to preserve the roots as perfect as possible, parties buying will find these cheaper even than those sold by auction, for there they
must pay for them, faulty or good.Orders will be received at my residence, in Flinders Lane by Mr E. Vernon, Grocer; or at the Orchard, Pascoevale, by Mr Wm. Martin. Trees ordered and paid for will be delivered in town (on Saturdays only ) free of expense to the purchaser.
(P.4, Geelong Advertiser and Squatters' Advocate, 16-5-1846.)
The earliest use of Pascoe Vale in family notices was in 1854 in the death notice of a pioneer who had settled in Victoria in 1803.
WHAT'S THAT ITELLYA, HAVE YOU GONE STARK RAVING MAD? DOES THE YEAR 1835 MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? EVEN THE HENTYS WERE WAY AFTER 1803. HANG ON,DO YOU MEAN THE SORRENTO SETTLEMENT?
On the 24th inst., at Pascoe Vale, John Fawkner, Esq., in his 84th year, father of J. P. Fawkner,Esq., M.L.C.
SEE COMMENTS RE HENRY, FRED AND WILLIAM GODFREY.
The two Purves brothers built bridges in Van Dieman's Land before coming to the Port Phillip District. James,an architect, came out first and his brother, Peter,who was a stone mason,joined him after a tragedy befell him.Each brother had a son named James, but James Jnr was usually referred by his full name (as below.) Purves Rd in Rosebud may have been granted to James the architect but Peter's descendants lived there.
Port Phillip Apostle No 6 James Purves, landowner
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James Purves was born at Berwick-on-Tweed on 25 May 1813 and arrived in Van Diemens Land in 1837, moving across to Phillip in 1839. He commenced practising as an architect and building surveyor that year with an office in Bourke Street opposite Mr Allan’s (whoever he was). He obtained an auctioneers license in the same year- possibly that’s where he met Welsh? A different address is given for his office- Little Collins Street, next to McLeans store; then another notice that he moved into McLeans store itself. Either way, he is located in the commercial centre of town. He sold the auctioneers business to H. H. Atkinson in 1841, and maintained another architect office in Collins Street from 1840. His private residence was in Newtown (now Fitzroy) in 1840, then Richmond in 1844 and 1845. He married Caroline, the daughter of Thomas Guillod of London in October 1842. His son, James Liddell Purves, who was a barrister, columnist, free trade parliamentarian and member of the Australian Natives Association, was born in Swanston Street in 1843.
There’s his son. A fine upstanding man he is too.
James Purves Snr. is listed as holding land with Chirnside at the Loddon River and Geelong in 1840, then took a license to run stock in the Portland Bay district with Chisholm in 1842-3 (but I doubt if it is John Moffat Chisholm, who seems to have always used all three names; there are other Chisholms in Port Phillip) . He also held land in Western Port with Dixon 1842-3; and with E. W. Hobson. He won a prize for a horse at the first show, held on 3 March 1842 at the cattlemarket on the corner of Elizabeth and Victoria streets- a “failure” of a show, according to Garryowen, where “the exhibits were a vast disappointment”.
There is no evidence of much connection with the other Twelve Apostles. He seems to be quite active in leasing or purchasing properties in the early 1840s, especially during 1842 when the depression was kicking in, but there does not seem to be any further action after cutting his partnerships in 1843. Unlike the other Twelve Apostles, he had a profession to fall back on- perhaps this saved him from the insolvency that engulfed the others. He joined with Fawkner and Chisholm in fighting the arrangements made to cover Rucker’s debt once it all went pear-shaped. In September 1846 he helped fight a fire in a coach factory. By 1850 he was purchasing land again. He had a licence at Tootgarook- or is it Toolgaroop?- between 1850-69 where he became an importer and racehorse breeder and also at Traralgon between June 1853 and 1855.
He obviously had the money to send his son ‘home’ to England for his education, his law degree and his Grand Tour. His son published the diary he wrote on the way home – A Young Australian’s Log. I wonder if that gives any more information?
This is all so disjointed. There’s a Thomas and Henry Purves in Port Phillip at the time, who DO come out very strongly in Judge Willis’ favour, but I don’t know if they’re connected to James Purves at all. There’s several mentions of Mr Purves in the newspaper, but I’m not sure which one it is. And how and why did James Purves get involved in the Rucker scheme? Search me.
Peter Wilson wrongly states in ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD that the Rosebudwas owned by Edward Hobson and was uninsured when she went aground inland of the foreshore bike path at Rosebud. (A plaque at the spot explains how the site of the stranding was determined.) James Purves had insured the vessel and there are many articles on trove about some of the insurers trying to avoid paying their share,claiming necessary documentation had not been provided and the stranding occurred on the EAST coast of the bay,which was not covered by the policy. Just prior to the stranding in 1855,James tried to sell the vessel and presumably he was the owner.
Extract from my journal about James Purves at Fingal.
WHICH JAMES PURVES?
The two men credited with having started the breeding of thoroughbreds in Victoria were James Purves and William Cross Yuille,the latter the author of the Stud Book. I was surprised to discover this as Hurtle Fisher and his brother, Charles B.Fisher (the father of the Australian Turf according to MARIBYRNONG:ACTION IN TRANQUILITY), had captured this distinction in my mind.
This James Purves died at Richmond on 12-6-1878. (P.1s, Launceston Examiner, 6-7-1878.) He owned Chinton, east of Mt Macedon and Tootgarook on the Mornington Peninsula. Neither is mentioned in this obituary but they were in other obituaries. James Purves had a brother named Peter but you'd never know it unless you read Hec Hanson's MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN. He was a mason and followed his architect brother to Van Diemans Land when his wife died shortly after giving birth to their first child, James. Leaving the baby in the care of a relative, the heartbroken Peter joined his brother and combining their skills they built many of Tasmania's early bridges.
THE ARCHITECT'S SON.
Where did "Liddle" come from? Perhaps here.
Purves, Margaret 59
Born: Abt 1757, Berwick
Marriage: Liddle, James 5 Jun 1773, Coldingham, , Berwick, Scotland 141
Purves, James Liddell (1843–1910)
by Marian Aveling
This article was published in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 5, (MUP), 1974
James Liddell Purves (1843-1910), lawyer and nationalist, was born on 23 August 1843 in Swanston Street, Melbourne, eldest son of James Purves and his wife Caroline. His father, an early Victorian colonist from Berwick-upon-Tweed, became an importer, race-horse breeder and owner of the station Toolgaroop near Western Port. Purves attended several Melbourne schools, including the Diocesan Grammar School, but his health was poor and he was sent to Europe in 1855 to complete his education. His diary of the voyage to London was later published as A Young Australian's Log (1856); it shows precocious powers of expression and observation. He continued his studies in Germany and Belgium, obtaining a good knowledge of German and French, and in King's College School, London. In 1861 he matriculated and entered Trinity College, Cambridge, to study medicine, but soon changed to law at Lincoln's Inn, London. For four years he studied, travelled widely on the Continent and at times supported himself by writing literary and documentary articles for several London journals and newspapers. In 1865 he was called to the Bar and, in December 1866 on his return to Melbourne, was admitted to the Victorian Bar.
This varied education produced quick intelligence, a fluent and often brilliant tongue, and great charm, his influence on colonial opinion and practice being based less on intellect than on personality and style. In the late 1860s he contributed a witty column, 'Talk of the Town', to the Melbourne Herald, and became co-editor of the Australian Jurist. His rapid rise in the legal profession showed a special flair for spectacular cases: in 1871 the defence of a client accused of stealing a fortune in gold coin; in the mid-1870s a gold-mining case involving suspected fraud; and in 1878 the defence of a respectable softgoods firm charged with smuggling by the protectionist Berry government. From the early 1880s he undertook a number of will and divorce cases, all closely reported in the press, and was briefed to appear in almost every important jury case. He was retained as standing counsel by a large number of public and private institutions, including the Victorian railways, in the defence of which he appeared in the long series of compensation cases arising out of the railway disasters of 1881 and of 1886, when he was appointed Q.C. and acknowledged as the leader of the Victorian Bar. A colleague later commented acidly that Purves was master of all trades and deficient only in law.
Certainly his success depended less on abstract legalities than on his ready grasp of technical skills such as surgery and mining, and on his ability to make disputed points clear to a jury by apt, homely and often humorous similes. His greatest contribution to forensic law in Victoria was the development of a unique style of cross-examination, a persistent and acute questioning by which a hostile witness could be led to prejudice his own case. Although privately a kindly man to whom many younger colleagues turned for assistance, Purves was notoriously brusque with witnesses, and when a doctor whose reputation he had impugned in court later knocked him into the gutter in Collins Street, public sympathy was not all with the lawyer.
Purves entered the Legislative Assembly in April 1872 as a free trader and constitutionalist for Mornington, and was soon known for his oratory. He was several times offered cabinet rank and regarded by some as a potential leader of the constitutionalists. A latent demagogue, Purves always admired Berry's powers of leadership. But his own talents inclined less to administration than to ideological debate; at the height of the constitutional crisis he once had to be forcibly rescued by friends from an attempt to sway a fiercely pro-Berry mob. In February 1880 he made an apparently quixotic decision to contest the working-class electorate of Footscray, was defeated and in July lost again in the Liberal stronghold of Maryborough and Talbot. He never stood for parliament again.
From the mid-1880s Purves's political talents were channelled through the Australian Natives' Association, which had been founded in 1871 as a friendly society and gradually extended its activities to include mutual improvement, debate and public demonstration on questions of national importance. Purves was not, as he and others often claimed, a founder of the association; he joined in 1872 but took no part in its affairs until 1884 when it began a series of protest meetings calling for British annexation in the Pacific. In his addresses to these meetings and later as president of the A.N.A., Purves developed a vague and ardent vision of Australia's future greatness which he placed sometimes within a renewed British empire, sometimes in glorious independence. During his presidency separatist elements within the A.N.A. pushed him and the association to the forefront of opposition to the Imperial Federation League in Victoria, but his attempt to establish a New South Wales A.N.A. failed when the republican movement in Sydney rejected his position as one of dual loyalty, to Australia and empire both. 'Emperor' Purves's two years as president of the A.N.A. in 1888-90 were marked more by oratorical fireworks than constructive leadership, but they confirmed the association's reputation within Victoria as a publicist organization with some political influence. Purves's oratory aroused in many of the younger generation a strong sense of responsibility for their country's development and a rather populist awareness of their own ability to direct it.
In the early 1890s Purves successfully defended the Age in two libel cases, of which the most famous and politically significant, Speight v. Syme, carried a great load of involved technical evidence; its hearing took 98 days and an appeal of 86 days was also lost. In this decade Purves was sporadically active in the long effort to persuade Victorians of the advantages of Federation, though pressure of business, sickness and his usual impatience with routine meetings kept him from the leadership. He failed to gain a place on the Victorian delegation to the Federal Convention of 1897 but was prominent in the dramatic crusading and canvassing in the last days before the first federal referendum.
Purves was also prominent in Victorian sporting circles as an owner of fine race-horses, a champion shot, and a keen lawn-tennis player and yachtsman. In 1875 he had married Annie Lavinia, daughter of R. Grice; she died in childbirth, and in 1879 he married Eliza Emma, daughter of W. A. Brodribb. He had one son by his first marriage and two sons and three daughters by the second. On his death on 24 November 1910 the Victorian Bar mourned a leader and inspiration, the A.N.A. its greatest prophet.
This rootsweb page states that James Liddle Purves (its subject) was born in CAMPBELLFIELD! The Australian Dictionary of Biography article states that the architect's first-born son was born in Swanston St., Melbourne.
Father: James PURVES c: 21 Jun 1814 in Coldingham,Berwickshire,Scotland
Mother: Caroline GUILLOD
Marriage 1 Eliza Emma BRODRIBB b: 1856 in Deniliquin,New South Wales,Australia
Married: 1879 in Paddington,New South Wales,Australia
Has No Children Eleanor Alison PURVES b: 1883 in Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children Philip Brodribb PURVES b: 1886 in Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children Eliza Mary PURVES b: 1880 in South Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children Godfrey Liddle PURVES b: 1881 in Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children Beatrice Annie Ethel PURVES b: 1890 in East Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children William Richard Walter PURVES b: 1894 in East Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Marriage 2 Annie Lavinia GRICE b: 1854 in Collingwood,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children James George PURVES b: 1876 in Collingwood,Victoria,Australia
THE BARRISTER'S HOUSE.
East Melbourne, Clarendon Street 036, Mosspennoch | East ...
Mosspennock was built in 1881 for James Liddell Purves, Q.C. and was designed by Charles Webb. It is unusual for the curved glass in its front bow windows.
MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN.
This is the life story of Hec Hanson,the great grandson of THE STONE MASON,PETER PURVES. I may one day write a journal about Hec's story but here I will confine myself to the genealogy provided in the book.
P.21. My maternal great-grandfather Peter Purves was born in 1802,in Berwick upon Tweed in Scotland. He was a mason,as is indicated on his tombstone at Point Nepean.(It's still there!) Peter married his sweetheart Barbara Scott,in March 1835,and on 29th September 1835,while living in Pilgrim Street, Newcastle-on-Tyne,England,she gave birth to a son-James. It was only one month later,that Barbara died. After this tragedy,Peter left his son in the care of an aunt,Mrs Russell,back across the border in Berwick upon Tyne, and followed his brother James,to Van Dieman's Land (Tasmania). On this island,he tried to overcome his sorrow by working with his brother, building bridges.
Young James was eager to get to know his father, so at the age of eighteen he set sail for Australia aboard the "Thomas Lowry". He arrived in 1852, and joined his father and uncle at Tootgarook Station,on the Mornington Peinsula. The brothers had been managing this run since 1850*,with Peter getting credit for giving it the name Tootgarook**, after an aboriginal word meaning "the croaking of frogs". Peter Purves died in March 1860,so his son managed to be with him for eight years.
(Peter's brother James went on to own Tootgarook Station and had a son called James Liddle Purves, who became a well-known barrister and politician.)
Two years after his father's death,young James married Emily Caroline Quinan***, who was born at Broken River (Benalla)in Victoria. They lived at Tootgarook,which is between Rosebud and Rye,and had ten children.My mother Frances Ada Elizabeth was the ninth child and was born at Tootgarook in 1883.
* Edward Hobson was supposed to have held the Tootgarook Run until 1850 but from about 1844 was managing a run for his brother,Dr. Edmund Hobson, which Edward named "River of Little Fish" (Traralgon.) Charles Hollinshed suggested in LIME LAND LEISURE that JAMES Purves might have been managing Tootgarook in the 1840's.
**I have seen several alternative names for the run.
***Emily's father, Robert Denison Quinan,assisted by his wife,Emma, established a private school at Dromana on 12-11-1860, catering for about 25 pupils and due to a petition signed by Robert Rowley and many other Dromana residents,his school became a National School on 1-6-1861. To supplement his income,he did book-keeping for the Kangerong Road Board but finding a discrepancy of five pounds he sought a loan from Richard Watkin of the Dromana Hotel. When the loan was refused, he committed suicide.(Pages 130-1,A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
N.B. He was from Dublin and was wrongly called Robert Dublin Quinan in the book. Many articles about the suicide,but not the cause, can be found on trove.
FAMILY TREE. (I can't use the usual lay-out.)
James Purves,son of Peter, married Emily Caroline Quinan in 1862 (15-6-1862 according to the wedding notice.)
James was born on 29-9-1835 at Newcastle-on-Tyne,England and died on 6-11-1913 at Rosebud. Emily wasborn at Broken River (Benalla)and died on 4-8-1910 at Rosebud. (Rosebud=Greenhills in Purves Rd.)
Their children, with birth, death,and marriage details, were:
1. James (Jim), Pt Nepean 1863, 1927, bachelor.
2. George LiddlePt Nepean 1865, 1892, ?
3. Emily b.1867 (3-11-1867 Trove), d. 1947 W.A., m.1899 Gustav Frederick Phillip Lenz.
4. Lily, 1870 Tootgarook, 1938, spinster.
5. Robert 1872 Toot., 1937,m.Emma Mason.
6. Walter, 1875 Toot., 1935, m.1904 Leila F.Cotton.
7. Barbara Scott, 1878 Toot., 1934 Dromana, m.1915 James Wilson*.
8. Peter, 1880 Toot., 1940 buried at Rye, m. Isabella Cairns.**
9. Frances Ada Elizabeth, 1883 Toot., 1951 Tawonga, Vic., m. 1906 Alfred George Hanson.
10. Ernest, 1885 Dromana, 1886.
*See my Sarah Wilson journal. See P.3,Mornington Standard 19-4-1902 for the Laurissen letter of thanks re Bobby Wilson split skull.
Born in Victoria, Australia in 1886 to James Thompson Cairns and Johanna Russell. Isabella married Peter Purves. She passed away on 1983 in Victoria, Australia. (See my CAIRNS GENEALOGY journal.)
ALEC. RASMUSSEN,TULLAMARINE, 1909- CIRCA 1929.
Alec Rasmussen transferred from Couangault, south of Gisborne,to Tullamarine S.S.2613 in 1909 and taught there for nearly twenty years. His picnics at Alexander McCracken's Cumberland(probably for his pupils but involving the whole community)were just a small part of his service to Tullamarine. Alec was spoken of in such glowing terms, at the 1989 and 1998 Tullamarine reunions, by every one of his former pupils, that I became infected. My attempts to have the Tullamarine Reserve in Melrose Drive, which the community gained because of Alec, has failed but I hope to have a playground on that reserve or nearby named after him.
MR. HARDIMAN,GRADE 4, ASCOT VALE STATE SCHOOL, CIRCA 1951.
The old Social Studies course started with the family with horizons expanding every year,Grade 5 studying Australia. The Grade 4 focus was on the local community. Kidding Mr Hardiman didn't get me fired up with his stories about the past. If he hadn't, I wouldn't be writing my journals. I thought of him and decided to write this journal a few nights ago. Mr Hardiman explained that Bank St,in which the school is still situated,got its name from the bank on the Mount* Rd corner which was built during the gold rush. I vaguely remember seeing 1869 on the bank and naturally concluded that it was not the original bank building. What I found the other night was an article about the E.S.&A. bank being built on the site of a hay and corn store in (1869?) I've spent an hour trying to find it again,to no avail.
Without the resources available today, Mr Hardiman's mistake can be understood, and his slight debit on this account is completely outweighed by the love of history that he engendered in me.
MR (KEVIN?) GOOD, ASCOT VALE STATE SCHOOL,CIRCA 1952 and 1961.
Phrases, clauses, similes,etc. seemed strange stuff when Mr Good introduced them but I picked them up.He must have done a good job because, blow me down, he was the English lecturer at Melbourne Teachers' College when I arrived. And the first thing he did was to administer a Grammar test.Guess who blitzed the field.
MR WILLIAMS, KENSINGTON STATE SCHOOL, CIRCA 1952. Bagpipes.
After Dad died we moved to Kensington and attended school there from the start of third term (early September.)
If the class worked hard and behaved well,Mr Williams would perform his party trick,playing the bagpipes on his violin. I don't remember much else,but we were extremely industrious angels!
GEORGE MURRAY,UNI HIGH,1950'S. Umpiring,dedication.
By RON CARTER
Daryl Foster had the laugh on his University High
School teacher George Murray yesterday.
During school hours George is chief, but on the
cricket field it's everyone for himself.
Daryl plays district cricket with Essendon, and
Murray is Footscray pennant team's captain-coach.
For more than a season Daryl, a medium-pace
bowler, has been trying to get George's wicket in a
They met again yesterday in a U.H.S. firsts versus
the seconds and teachers, and Daryl got his wish . . .
he had'George caught at point.
Although it wasn't a pennant match it was still
a terrific "kick" for young Daryl.
, [In the picture above Daryl Foster (centre) smiles
as his teacher, George Murray (left walks back to the
pavilion after falling victim to his 16-year-old pupil.
George Karanichols (right), another University High
student, who is in St. Kilda's pennant team, also
thought it was a "great joke."] (P.18, Argus,3-11-1955.)
George K.(see below*) was just one of the Uni. High lads who benefited from George Murray's refinement of their natural talent. Tony Leigh,whom I brilliantly leg glanced for 4 in a house match (snicked with my eyes closed in absolute fear), played under George Murray at Footscray. Arthur K. also made the grade in cricket a few years later and I think he also played footy for North Melbourne.
*The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 16 February 1955 Section: SPORTING SECTION p 2 Article about George K. making the St Kilda 1sts aged 15 and some of the other Uni High teenagers also playing at the top level. Daryl Foster was later the W.A. state coach for many years.
MURRAY INWOOD (MELBOURNE TEACHERS' COLLEGE.)
The Commanding Officer-Faraday St. Donkey Serenade.
Murray didn't teach me, being a fellow student at teachers' college, but I would have loved to be in his class; it would have been fun! I knew him well, being in the same group and sitting next to him in the tenor section of the choir. A Korean War vet., Murray was well established (at Maribyrnong I think) and threw parties for the members of our group. At every one, Murray would be badgered until he sang The Donkey Serenade,which was just made for his superb voice.
At the start of our second year, the whisper went around to stay on the second floor and keep a lookout. The bell rang and the new students gathered in the assembly area outside. Suddenly a commanding voice started barking orders to straighten lines,improve posture and so on. Stifled sniggers from upstairs seemed about to give the game away but when the column was marched, to Murray's "left, right" across Swanston St to the old Faraday State School, we laughed our heads off.
PETER DUNLEAVEY, KENSINGTON STATE SCHOOL, CIRCA 1968. Aug. 22.
During the 1960's, Kensington changed considerably. The flats overlooking the South Ken. flat, now Holland Park, had brought more disadvantaged families into the area, many struggling to learn a new language. When Bryan Quirk of Carlton Football Club had his jaw broken in a game, I took over the coaching of the cricket team. The boys loved our after school practice sessions, the same later with footy, and it was then that I discovered how many of the children were latch-key children; they arrived home to an empty house because both parents were working.One of the boys, Kevin,was so disturbed that he took to one of his parents with an axe and he was just one of many troubled children. It was depressing so a bit of levity would not go astray.
We locked the deputy principal and the infant mistress in the tiny strongroom in the first production of the big brother house. But the funniest thing ever was Peter Dunleavey's classic impromptu one -liner.
The staff kitchen was separate from the staff room and if you had forgotten cutlery,you had to go back to get it. I think the sick bay was between the two rooms. One day I'd heated my lunch but had forgotten the cutlery. When I returned,my lunch was missing. My colleagues kindly showed me where it was,in my locked classroom! You guessed it,my key had also disappeared from the staff room table.
On the Friday before my wedding, I was looking after two grades (of 36 or more),Maureen Ginifer being away and relieving teachers unheard of, when Peter came down and said that Quirky needed to see me. He wasn't in his room (his grade being probably at Art and Craft)so Peter said that he was probably in the staff room. As we walked past the sick bay two figures emerged like lightning to assist Peter in his dastardly purpose. I breathed a sigh of relief when I found they were only going to tie me up; far better than the usual buck's night prank.
I'd almost untied myself when a check by my assailants found the bonds needed attention. That had just been done when a girl from Maureen's class asked Peter if I was in the sick bay. "Yes,but he's tied up at the moment!" Ya gotta laugh!
There will be a reunion, (on April 26, 2014?), of descendants of George "Dod" Jennings and his wife, Hannah (nee Wiffen)to mark the 100th anniversary of the family's arrival in Rye. Details from Linda Berndt (nee Jennings)on 5985 8187 or firstname.lastname@example.org(email.)(DESPERATELY SEEKING,P.77,Herald Sun, 27-10-2013.)
Anything added here will be information that will probably not be in the book to be launched at the reunion.If you don't know what was buried with Dod and why, you obviously need to buy the book! As the digitised text has been corrected,I assume that Paul Jennings' attempt to water ski across Bass Strait will be mentioned.
SEE COMMENT 1 RE A MISTAKE IN ONE OF MY JOURNALS ABOUT A JENNINGS-BRIGHT CONNECTION, (ACTUALLY JENNINGS-BLIGHT), WHICH I NEED TO FIND AND CORRECT.
Mr C. Jennings, the clever little rover of the Flinders football club, was married at Portsea on Wednesday, to Miss Tuck, second daughter of Mr John Tuck, of Portsea. (P.2,Mornington Standard, 3-6-1905, PERSONAL PARS.)
MR. J. TUCK.
The death occurred on July 4 of Mr. John Tuck, of Flinders, aged 86. Born at Rye, he was taken by his
parents to Flinders when six years of age, and lived there for the remainder of his life.Burial took place in the Flinders cemetery on July 5. The Rev. Father O'Sullivan read the burial service.The casket was carried by Messrs. M.Baxter, J. Jennings, J. Mackay, and L. Mannix (sons-in-law). Mr. James Wilson, of Mornington, conducted the funeral.
(Frankston & Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 17 July 1936 p 4 Article.)
TO BE HELD IN THE FLINDERS PARK ON FRIDAY, JANUARY I, 1904.
OFFICE-BEARERS: PATRONS:- F. S. Grimwade,M.L.C., A. Downward Esq., M.L,A.; C. T. Cooke, Esq., H. Sharp. Esq., Robt. Anderson. Esq., J.P., J. E. Guest, Esq., and Jas. Simmonds*, Esq.
PRESIDENT-Cr Nowlan; VICE-PRESIDENTS-Messrs. T. E.M Darley and C. H. M. Planck; COMMITTEE-Messrs E. Dowie,
A. Delaney, H. Boyd. H. Farr, W. Purves, M.Higgins- L. Wilding, J. Riley. J. Symonds*, H. Hopcraft, S. Willett, Geo.Jennings, W. M'Intosh, and H. James. (P.5, Mornington Standard, 19-12-1903.)
Hannah Jennings,widow, of Rye,who died on July 26?, left by will dated May 4, 1933?, property of a gross value of L.3363? to her sons.(P.22, Argus,15-9-1934.)
JENNINGS—HALL. — On 26th February, at St. Andrew's Church of England, Rye, by the Rev. Godfrey Hughes, Claude Ernest, eldest son of Mr and Mrs E. Jennings, Rye Park, Rye, to Myrtle Annie, eldest daughter of Mrs C. J. Hall and the late Mr John Hall, "Montrose," Boolarra.(P.2,Morwell Advertiser, 9-5-1935.)
WOMEN'S HIKING RECORD.
What appears to be a hiking record for women is the achievement of Miss K. Jennings, of Rye, and Miss H. Nelson, of Warragul, who reached Horsham on Wednesday. Leaving Melbourne on Friday morning,April 13, they took the Western Highway to Stawell. ,Then, desiring to avail themselves of the opportunity of seeing the beauty of the Grampians, they made a detour through Hall'sGap, staying over night. Next day,they hiked over the mountain track toWartook, thence to Horsham, thus completing about 205 miles in six days.
The hikers appeared to be little the worse for their long trek. They are warmly grateful for the many kindnesses offered them by wayside dwellers and are most enthusiastic over the wild grandeur of the Grampians
scenery. (P.4,The Horsham Times,20-4-1934.)
I've researched the history of Somerville's Gomm family quite extensively with the aid of trove and Murray Gomm. During a four hour session one day he showed me a medal,which has now been donated to the recently renamed M.P.N.F.L.(now P.C.N.) and is on display at its office. At the age of about 35, in about 1950,George Gomm, Murray's father,started a milk round from a dairy he built opposite the pub in Flinders*. George and his brother,Billy, have been made legends of the Somerville Football Club.George could not continue to play for Somerville, because of the demands of his dairy and distance. Murray recalls that George helped to reform the Flinders Football Club and played a few games with them before finally retiring. Players in those days socialised with the opposition after the game, and George lured two of the friends he'd made from Rye to Flinders, Clarrie Jennings and Bob Rowley who were also near the end of their careers. Murray believes that Clarrie coached Flinders fairly successfully, possibly having won a premiership.
(*See THE BUTCHER, THE BAKER THE by Bruce Bennett.)
Unfortunately details in trove regarding Flinders and football in the 1950's have been difficult to find,except for the next John Coleman,Flinders' John Watson, who in 1956 was averaging a higher average of goals per game than Coleman had with Hastings. Records on the M.P.N.F.L. website are currently unavailable,so the above anecdote cannot be verified.
The Hindhope Estate was between Boneo Rd and First Avenue in Rosebud , extending south from the highway to include 50 First Ave and the Hope St house blocks.
HINDHOPE ESTATE (PART 3, First Ave, Thomas St, Rosebrook St), ROSEBUD,VIC., AUST.
Journal by itellya
The land north of McCombe St and east of Rosebrook St was referred to as section A in the 1919 assessments. This was the second stage of the subdivision first advertised in 1914, the 70 "seaside" lots north of McCombe St being placed on sale in 1913 when the Hindhope Villa had 39 acres of grounds remaining. As Section A was the rest of Hindhope except for 14 acres west of Rosebrook St,it can be concluded that the land east of Rosebrook St consisted of 25 acres. Frederick Allan Quinton bought many blocks near the Hindhope Villa block (lot 95 and 96) but Alexander Mackie Younger's first wife bought the 14 acres of grounds, which might account for the absence of lots 19 to 32 on the subdivision plan,which makes no mention of section A.
Those assessed in 1919 on land in section A were:
A.L.Adcock, Red Hill, 6, 7, N.A.V. 2 POUNDS!; H.Cairns 14, c/o Mrs Papper, 433 George St.,Fitzroy; Mace, Wangaratta, 84, 85,86; W.R.Mullens 17, 18, c/o Jennings Rosebud; J.Patterson,Rosebud, 13; Mrs Emily June Ada Nethercote, Hawthorn, 12.
Not all of the above gained title. H.Cairns could have been Harry or Helen, neither of whom died for some time so the partly paid-off block may have been sold because of financial difficulties or an offer that couldn't be refused. The Mullens and Jennings family were related by marriage as shown in part 1*. L.Adcock of Red Hill was occupying 42 acres and buildings on crown allotment 20C Wannaeue (at Melway 190 D 11-12) in 1919. I can find no Cairns/Papper connection so perhaps the Fitzroy family was leasing the block. Mr Mace's full name is below. (*Pasted below.)
All lots below were transferred from the developer, Arthur A. Thomas to the buyer.
SOUTH SIDE OF McCOMBE ST.
LOT -- DATE--- TRANSFERRED TO.--- FRONTAGE--- NOW
1 --- 14-9-1923--- Elizabeth Lyng --- 100' 10"--6 First Ave.
2 --- 14-9-1923--- Elizabeth Lyng---- 50'------As above.
3 --- 27-3-1922--- Margaret Agnes Mott--50'------No.1 McCombe St.
4 --- 20-5-1924--- Arthur Nichols ----- 50'------No.3.
5 --- 8-7-1925--- Charles Nichols -----50'------No.5.
6 ---15-11-1916--- Leonard Frank Adcock-50'------No.7.
7 ---15-11-1916--- Leonard Frank Adcock-50'------No.9.
8--- 25-8-1924 --- William Alderson *1--50'------Unit 1 and 2, No.11 McCombe St
9 ---25-11-1937---Harold Thomas Devine--50-------No.13.
10-- 7-8-1921 --John Forrest Kilpatrick-50'------No.15 west to middle of drive.
11-- 7-8-1921 --John Forrest Kilpatrick- 50'-----No.17 and west half of drive.
12--16-4-1920-Emily Irene Ada Nethercote- 50'----No. 19.
13---27-4-1921--- James Kilgour Rae --- 50'------1/21 McCombe St (west to pillar between carports), and 5 and 6 of 1A Rosebrook St behind.
14---18-11-1921--Alfred Freeland Gibbs---50'-----2/21 McCombe St (east to pillar between carports),and 3 and 4 of 1A Rosebrook,fronting Rosebrook.
-------------ROSEBROOK STREET (THE NORTHERN 160 FEET TO THE BEND)-----------
15--- 9-3-1921 --Gladys Iris Jennings-50'-----Plaza Car Park to east kerb of entry/exit separator.
16--- 9-3-1921----Gladys Iris Jennings---50'-----to diagonal crack in footpath west of entry/exit.
17---19-12-1923---Edward Adolph Mattner--50'----west to pedestrian crossing sign.
18---19-12-1923---Edward Adolph Mattner--50'----west to double veranda pole outside post office.
*1. William Alderson lived on a Rosebud Fishing Village block, and being a Carlton supporter, was responsible for the colours of the Rosebud Footy Club jumper. It was changed to incorporate a light horizontal panel for one year because old Mr Dark had trouble spotting the players in the late afternoon but a return to the Alderson design was demanded.
*2.The Jennings family's background is discussed in my journal about connections between the Rosebud and Geelong areas.
JENNINGS CONNECTIONS (FROM HINDHOPE PART 1. which specifies the land bought north of McCombe St. by Gladys.)
ALWAY-JENNINGS.-The marriage ofBetty Irene, elder daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Alway, Hillside avenue, East
Malvern, to Frederick Rowland, youngest son of the late Mr. Walter Jennings and Mrs.G.Jennings, Rosebud, will be celebrated at St. John's Church, Finch street, East Malvern, on Monday, April 15, at 5.30 p.m. (P.10, Argus, 12-4-1946.)
Mr. G. E. Jennings, who conducts the dairy at Rosebud, and serves Rye area, contemplates carrying out extensions to his business premises in Rosebud, in the near future. When these alterations are made it will be the most modern dairy on the Peninsula. (P.6, Standard, Frankston,28-2-1946.)
Miss Ruth Ferris, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Ferris, was recently. married to Mr. Jack Jennings, youngest
son of Mr. and Mrs. Jennings, of Rosebud. The ceremony took place at the Church of England. The wedding breakfast was held at the home of the bride's grand-parents. The honeymoon is being spent at Healesville.
(P.3, Standard, Frankston, 5-10-1944.) It is Jack's statue that stands outside the former (most modern)dairy on the east corner of Rosebud Pde.
JENNINGS (nee Gladys Mullen). —On the 10th November, at Nurse McInne's private hospital,Box Hill, the wife of Walter Gordon Jennings,of "Dalgabeena," Blackburn —a son (Gordon Roberts).(P.11, Argus,12-12-1914.) So that's why the Mullen assessment was to be sent to Mrs Jennings in 1919!
MULLEN.-On March l8, at Hobart, Lt.-Col. L. M. Mullen, loving brother of Gladys (Mrs. W. G. Jennings. Rosebud,
Vic). -Duty nobly done.(P.2, Argus, 20-3-1943.)
WON'T SUBMIT. TRIED TO ADD AS COMMENTS ON EARLY SYDNEY RDS JOURNAL AND HERE, A TOTAL OF ABOUT 10 TRIES. SO FRUSTRATING! WILL TRY LATER.
By deleting William Smith's 1850 advertisement for the ORIGINAL Old Queen Inn at PASCOEVALE,which mentions the link to the new line of road near Somerton Inn,and some of my commentary, I was able to post the arguments for Cliffords Rd being the link in comments under my journal about EARLY ROADS TO SYDNEY. The whole, and a similar discussion about the early route to Geelong (fords, punts, bridges)has been posted on facebook,entitled EARLY ROADS OUT OF MELBOURNE.
I prefer to post my research on family tree circles, so it is more accessible to family historians, but instead of wasting days trying to submit, I might have to use the facebook option more often (when such frustration sets in.) Private message me if you would like to see my facebook posts, which are all about history.
Hey xxx, Tulla Primary are having a back to school day on the 1st November 9.30-11.30. Wasn't sure if you are aware of it. THAT'S NEXT FRIDAY!
How do you write thousands of pages of history in half a dozen pages? Well, I'll give it a try. Any pioneers mentioned can probably be found in itellya's journals on Family Tree circles by googling the surname and Tullamarine. e.g. Parr, Tullamarine.
THE PARRS OF "THE ELMS" AND "ANNANDALE" AT TULLAMARINE, VIC., AUST.
Journal by itellya
With the Nash and Wright families, the Parrs were mainstays of the Tullamarine Methodist Church. The family also gave great service to the Keilor Shire Council with James Henry serving as President six times and his son, Bill, four times. James and his wife were known by locals as Da and Ma Parr. James and later his son, Sam, farmed “The Elms” (5,F/10) and Bill lived n/w of the west end of Sharps Rd (15, D/1) on part of Annandale which was not absorbed into the Arundel Closer Settlement, keeping the name of grocer Annand’s grant for his farm. The Parrs left England in 1853, going to New Zealand before arriving in Australia with Ann Parr seeming to have lost her husband during that time. The family lived in Tullamarine until The Elms was bought for Airport Purposes in about 1960. More information in my “Before The Jetport”.
The success of the Back to Tullamarine reunions of 1989 and 1998 was chiefly due to Winnie Lewis, daughter of Sam Parr (the first beardless man one oldtimer ever saw.)
The first school in our area was supposed to have been running at Springs in 1850. This could have been near Tullamarine or Keilor Rd, because both areas were given the same locality name. Imagine going to the wrong one! Soon the area near Keilor Rd was called Springfield.
The 1850 school was most likely near the "Governor's house" on Spring Creek between Beverage Drive and the Western Ring Road. J.F.L.Foster owned the land between Keilor Park Drive (formerly Fosters Rd) and the river and his older brother William owned land on both sides of Sharps Rd as far east as Broadmeadows Rd. William went home and John became owner of the lot.
When Governor Latrobe became sick and retired early, John Foster and then the son of merino breeder,John Macarthur, acted as Governor until Governor Hotham arrived. The Fosters had been squatting near Tullamarine by 1840 when they were issued a lease for Leslie Park; John called his grant near the river "Leslie Banks."
The first school actually in Tullamarine , Wesleyan School 632, was on an acre obtained from John Foster near the bend in Cherie St. and started in 1855. Seafield School, on the south side of Grants Rd right where it would cross the north-south runway (if you could still drive to McNabs Rd),and the Tullamarine Island School (west side of Glenloeman Rd) were started in 1859.
The land between Broadmeadows Rd and the Moonee Ponds Creek became Camp Hill, owned by Eyre Evans Kenny after whom two streets were named in Broadmeadows Township (Westmeadows.) It went north to Camp Hill Park (across Mickleham Rd from the 711 service station.) Kenny sold the triangle west of Melrose Drive and soon Gretna Green was being advertised for sale in lots of about 20 acres (actually 26.) A little girl who grew upon Camp Hill in the 1860's was Pattie Brown who married Alfred Deakin, the father of Federation (with Parkes.) In about 1940, a fellow called Scott renamed the farm as Gowanbrae.
The land on both sides of Melrose Drive between the Derby St corner and Melbourne Airport was granted to John Pasoe Fawkner and John Carre Riddell. They swapped bits that crossed Melrose Drive (Macedon/Deep Creek/Bulla/Lancefield Rd over the years) so that Fawkner's land was on the Keilor side and Riddell's on the Broadmeadows side. Riddell and his partner,Hamilton, called their land,which went east to Mickleham Rd, the Camieston Estate which they divided into small farms and acre blocks in Hamilton Terrace, which was bounded by Derby St as far north as Greenhill St.
Just south of the Derby St. corner was the Lady of the Lake Hotel and a farm called Broombank (Millar Rd area.) Two little O'Nial girls watched Robert O'Hara Burke's expedition in 1860 through the Cape Broom hedge as it passed by. These were on the north east corner of John Foster's land and soon after, the Junction hotel was built; it was closed in about 1929 because of the antics of such as Squizzie Taylor and less criminal drunks, later becoming Cec .and Lily Green's Green's Corner shop and petrol station,the Mobil Service Station and now 711.
Two farms were north of Camp Hill,Viewpoint,to the Lackenheath Drive corner and Stewarton, to Foreman St,the southern boundary of Broadmeadows Township. Edmund Dunn of Viewpoint was a Wesleyan Trustee but felt no guilt about leaving his farm in different ways to avoid the toll gate, which had earlier been south of Gretna Green,near Sharps Rd.Edmund sued the Melbourne Hunt for trampling his crops and terrifying his ewes.
One of the first occupants of Stewarton was Peter McCracken,there 1846-1855 before moving to his Kensington Park dairy (later occupied by W.S.Cox until subdivision in 1882 until subdivision caused his move to Moonee Valley) and then Ardmillan at Moonee Ponds. It was renamed Gladstone circa 1892 and is now the northern 777 acres of Gladstone Park/Gardens.
Exact locations and extensive detail of the hotels near Tullamarine are given in itellya's journal about HOTELS NEAR TULLAMARINE. They were the Travellers' Rest,Lady of the Lake,Beach Tree and Inverness.
Early pioneers on our side of the Moonee Ponds Creek included James Sharp(1867) and Maurice Crotty (1860) south of Sharps Rd on The Springs, the Williamsons (Fairview, 400 acres of Foster land across Sharps Rd, Camp Hill, Arundel Closer Settlement block and the Keilor Park Recreation Reserve, ), Anderson,Parr, Wright, John Cock (my great grandfather) who arrived in 1864 as a servant indentured to John Hall (Southwaite i.e. Strathmore Heights) Spiers (Peter committed suicide), McNabs and Grants (of Oakbank and Seafield) of Ayrshire breeding fame, Macolm Ritchie of Aucholzie and Gowrie Park (I named Gowrie Park Drive in the airport, this farm was west of Payne's triangular pig farm "Scone" now occupied by the terminal building), the Mansfields near Mansfields Rd,Duncan and Thompson,grantees of Gowrie Park, James Lane,on Gowrie Park when it was first used as a landing field etc. On the west side of Mickleham Rd,were the Junction Estate (mainly owned circa 1970 by the family of horse fanatic Katie Butterworth, one of my Tulla students.)
Oops, I've slipped into the 1970's so I might as well stay there after I get to the Westmeadows Footy Ground. The Junction Estate, traditionally linked with the Junction Hotel, now includes North Edge, and Andlon and Londrew Courts. The land from just south of Freight Rd to the creek was Chandos and in 1902 John Cock subdivided it into three parts, Wright's Strathconnan, Bill Lockhart's Springburn and Percy Judd's Chandos Park. Bamford later bought Judd's farm and built a timber house that is now surrounded by brick houses.
At Kensington, I used to ask my students observation questions such as where the nearest grass was. Most came up with a logical answer: Bellair Street. It was in the school spouting! There wasn't a blade on the ground and with so many students any grass with the strength to germinate in asphalt would have been soon been trampled.
Having bought a house and land package at Tulla for $13 000, I applied for transfer to the school there. I fell in love with the school at first sight; all that grass,with a tree-lined perimeter. In my first year I saw one of the LTC (Light timber Construction) clad with bricks and then the other. The LTC'S were probably installed at Conders Lane during the 1950's when many migrant families joined Leo Dineen, Ron Langtip , Ron Gregg and Sid Hedger on Mansfield's Triangle. School 2613 teachers, the last being Tom Dunne, had to deal with overcrowding as well as language difficulties. The old 1884 school house was obviously not considered to be worth transporting to Dalkeith Avenue in 1961.
Two activities regarding teaching at Tulla are fresh in my memory. One was team -teaching the grade 4's with Graeme Knott. I suggested the idea soon after Graeme arrived and we decided just before Easter to give it a go. It worked a treat with one supervising about two thirds of the double grade, and helping individuals as they did set work, while the other took small groups for, Spelling and Maths etc, where discussion was necessary. Our roles reversed frequently.
The other involved The Sun's 1034 road safety program. (Actually it might have been 1064, 1034 sounds a bit dangerous!) With stopwatches and intricate calculation by yours truly,groups could sit a certain distance apart outside the school, and as a car approached, a hand would be raised and then dropped swiftly as the car drew level at which point the stop watch would start at the other end (probably 176 yards away.) In this way we determined the speed of each car, did graphs, averages etc. The comments made by the children as they watched two bus drivers having a drag past us showed that the road safety message had got home. The only danger to the children was choking to death.
The width of the sealed middle of Lancefield, Sharps and Broadmeadows Roads was about as wide as a car, so if two cars approached each other one side of each car hit the shoulder,producing a massive cloud of dust. Sharps Road had shoulders so steep that the above action risked a roll-over. It would have taken decades for Keilor Council to construct these roads but smart operator,Cr Leo Dineen, ensured they were made at little cost to the council and in very quick time, airport workers having threatened to strike.
Sport was big for the children, Marty Allison and Graeme Pearson coaching footy,the Dineens and Petersens taking little Aths, all sporting groups starting via the youth Club where Ken Boots, Trev. and Val Mason and Dave Axon were prominent.
The Kindergarten Association was active raising funds to get the kinder built, with the Paper Drive, which would not have been so successful without Noel Grist and his truck, the Balls at the memorial hall and the Gala Days on the unmade oval (women's footy match,bike-a-thon on grass etc.)
The Thomas family had been on James Sharp's Hillside since about 1940,calling it Carinya Park,and their Tullamarine Pony Club attracted many students from our school such as Katie Butterworth and Pam Gregg,the latter however becoming a teacher rather than a jockey.
OTHER SOURCES RE SUBURBAN TULLAMARINE.
THE KELLY GANG AT TULLAMARINE. (VIC., AUST.
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GREEN'S CORNER, TULLAMARINE, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.
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TULLAMARINE, THE SUBURB, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.
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DALKEITH AND PERCY'S COWS.(LOFT DAWSON
The 400 acre Fairview fronted Sharps Rd on the north side,west of Broadmeadows Rd. James Harrick divided it into two farms of 200 acres, known as Dalkeith and Brightview. All the housing and the school are on Dalkeith whose owners were George Mansfield, Ernie Baker, Tommy Loft (who had the Junction Hotel closed), Leslie King Dawson (after whom Dawson St was named) and Percy Hurren who arrived in 1951 after a stint as storekeeper and postmaster at Jones Corner, Moorooduc.
Tommy Loft subdivided the Eumarella, Gordon St area quite early but mainly his relatives such as the Exels and Scoones were assessed on the blocks. Gordon St was named after Tommy's grandson.
Brightview was the farm of Michael Reddan, from an early Bulla family. When the Reddans moved to Seafield, the Doyles took it over.
Conders Lane ran east-west across Fawkner's subdivision. State School 2613 was on its north corner,which is exactly the same spot as the north corner of Link Rd which runs just inside the west boundary of Sam Parr's Elm Farm.
Most of Tullamarine's small-farmer pioneers were Methodists and theirs was the only church built in Tullamarine. It was just north of Trade Park Rd on land that Charles Nash bought from John Foster.
THE PIONEERS BOARD, THE WAR MEMORIAL AND HISTORY WEEK.
Any pioneers that I have forgotten will be on the pioneers board. Much of the work of compiling the list would have been done by Alec Rasmussen, teacher at S.S.2613 for 20 years and secretary of the Tullamarine Progress Association for 30 years.
The war memorial is at the Dalkeith Ave corner courtesy of W.V.Murphy, known as Major Murphy, who moved it from Conders Lane after the school was relocated. He also relocated the memorial at Westmeadows (which had become a traffic hazard) and St Mary's from "Woodlands" to Bulla Township. Only names of those who paid the supreme sacrifice were inscribed after World War 2. They were my great uncle, Alf Cock of Glenview and a Doyle lad from Ristaro (fronting Sharps Rd west of the Fisher Grove houses.)
With two history treasures such as these, it would be a good history week project for senior pupils to compile a short history about some of Tullamarine's pioneering families. The same could be done in relation to Anzac Day.
THE CITY OF KEILOR RATES FEW MENTIONS IN A GOOGLE SEARCH. IT WILL NOW.
"In July 1975, when Keilor Council was sacked, and an administrator appointed,it was the first council to get the axe in the 133 years of local government in Victoria. (COUNCIL SACKINGS MAY GAIN FAVOUR, P.9, The Age,23-3-1981.)
Keilor was first incorporated as a road district on 3 March 1863. It became a shire on 22 December 1871, and was proclaimed a city on 29 April 1961. Its boundaries were relatively stable throughout its existence.
On 15 December 1994, the City of Keilor was abolished, and its area divided by the Maribyrnong River and the Albion-Jacana freight railway line; its eastern section was merged with the City of Essendon, to form the newly created City of Moonee Valley, while its western section was merged with parts of the City of Sunshine, including St Albans, to form the newly created City of Brimbank. Melbourne Airport and a small section of Tullamarine, north of Sharps Road, were transferred to the City of Hume.
The City of Keilor was divided into three wards, each electing three councillors:
Doutta Galla-Tullamarine Ward
Melbourne Airport (shared with the Shire of Bulla)
St Albans (shared with the City of Sunshine)
* Suburb gazetted since the amalgamation. (Wikipedia.)
The Keilor district celebrated three milestones and souvenirs were published for each, relying on anecdotes from old residents in 1950, but if my memory is correct,most of the 1961 and 1963 content was compiled by Garnet Price,the City Engineer, who obviously had a love for the area's history. Garnet had moved to Sunshine,I think, before the sacking, with Bill Carlyle now the City Engineer.
The celebrations were:
1950-Centenary of the proclamation of the Village of Keilor;
1961-Proclamation of the City of Keilor;
1863-Centenary of the municipality's beginnings as a Road Board.
I will start with the years before the sacking because I know that I will find plenty of information up to the 1950's on trove. You will find the following nowhere else.
The city's accountant was Charlie Nicholls, who with Cr Leo Dineen had been on the V.F.L. umpiring list and was one of the first council officers to whom Leo introduced me upon my election in 1974. His son, Matthew, is now a senior A.F.L. umpire and officiated in the 2013 grand final.
The Tullamarine Progress Association had good support from Keilor councillors,Leo Dineen attending almost every meeting and Cliff Harvie many times but not as regularly because he was a stalwart of the Tullamarine Youth Club held in the same esteem as Ken Boots,Dave Axon, Trev. and Val Mason etc., in the mind of those who knew. A year or two before the sacking, the members of the municipal employees' union involved in collecting garbage went on strike.
Residents forced out of tip [coming soon]
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Monday 12 November 1973 p 3 Article
... hundreds of residents out of the Keilor tip yester day after locked gates were cut open by two councillors. The two councillors used bolt cutters to allow about 250 residents to dump rubbish on the tip. The striking men, mem bers of the Municipal Employees Union, made some people carry their rubbish ... 136 words
Bins were full to overflowing and full of maggots, surrounded by garbage bags torn open by dogs and also full of maggots. I rang the M.E.U. secretary,a Mr Cole,I think,and gained his permission to collect Tullamarine's rubbish and take it to the tip. With the support of Carol Wright and many other volunteers, and Dave Calder's truck,this was done. There was a situation when we arrived at the tip, but it was soon resolved and the stinky mess was dumped. Judging by the above article,other areas did not have the same luck. I would not know which councillors cut the chains. I hadn't read the article of course,not having the Canberra Times home-delivered!
(It would not surprise me if one of them was blind!)
My memory is slipping because I can only remember eleven of the councillors at the time of the sacking,it might have been JIM Allen. The Tullamarine ward was represented by Leo Dineen,Leo Tadgell and Ray Gibb, Doutta Galla Ward by Neil Heinze, Neville Free and Peter Horman, Niddrie Ward by Nancy and Peter Kirschner and Dom. Cavallo,the Mayor,and Maribyrnong by George Seitz,Eric Allen and ?. (That was the missing one, not Jim Allen, a former councillor after whom was named a reserve that still exists because I was not a wheeler-dealer despite Eric Allen's efforts to make me one. Politics!
TO BE CONTINUED when I finish farms near Tulla and William Smith.(KEILOR PARK REP., UNUSUAL SPLIT, KELLY V PRICE)
SEE COMMENT 1. WOULD NOT SUBMIT HERE AS AN EDIT. SEE THE OTHER JOURNAL RE THE PASCOE VILLA ADVERTISEMENT.
I suspect that the above Pascoe Villa, was the former Young Queen Inn, on a small block on the west side of Pascoe Vale Rd, just north of the Pascoe Vale bridge. It could also have been on a part of Brewster's grant, crown allotment 15 Doutta Galla. As Smith owned the Young Queen, he would have had no need to build a dwelling on his small farm which was in a different parish but only across the creek from the hotel.
EXTRACTS FROM "EARLY LANDOWNERS:PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA".
SIR JOHN FRANKLIN.
On 15-2- 1847, Sir John Franklin bought the northern 12 acres of section 15. From Brewster memorials it has been established that the northern boundary of section 15 is indicated by the intersection of Esmale, Lebanon and Amar Sts. From this line, Franklin’s land went 295 links south to the e-w section of Lebanon St (D 847).
The E.J.Brewster 1st and 2nd series do not refer to a memorial concerning the land extending the next 8 chains (roughly) south to Peck Ave. If Andrew Lemon was right, it was purchased by William Smith.
(Luckily Doutta Galla microfiche 85 gave the title application number 13 676. The Sketch of Title under this number contained the following information. The block’s western boundary started 295 links south from the north west corner of section 15 (see frontage of Sir John Franklin’s purchase) and went another 709 1/4 links further south. Its northern and southern boundaries went east 41 chains and 5425 links respectively to the Moonee Moonee Ponds. On 4-2-1848, the same day that McCord, Jackson, Dunn and Callaghan bought their blocks to the south, Brewster sold this block to William Smith, a farmer of Glenroy.
The memorial recording this conveyance (G 460) was not listed in the Brewer index so luckily it appeared in this document. It revealed that William Smith paid L114/0/6. William Smith finally sold it to William Henry Fletcher, yoeman of Yan Yean, on 1-2-1872. The memorial listed for this conveyance (217 310) was consulted. The description of the land was perfectly copied from G 460, which failed to specify the block’s area. Fletcher paid 940 pounds, 8.25 times the price Smith had paid 24 years earlier.)
Using notes from title documents, I transposed all the purchased blocks onto my Melway. This was fortunate because, thinking these scribbled notes,(also rates transcriptions etc) would be completely meaningless to anybody else, I threw them away. I used one sketch of title together to cross-check the next as in the case of Franklin's and Smith's above; see bold type.
Sir John Franklin bought a large area of land in section 23 north of his 12 acre block bought from Brewster. The 12 acre block was combined with some of St John's grant to the north as what became known as Dunn's Farm. Because of Sir John's absence and the lease ending,or various title transfers on St John's grant, the 12 acres in section 15 was not occupied. From about 1882 John Murray Peck fenced and paid rates on it.About 30 years later, John English claimed title on the 12 acre block because of Peck's adverse possession.
The Lands Department had no idea about this, so we can't be too critical of Andrew Lemon's map showing the subdivision of section 15 on page 21 of BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.His map does not show Franklin's purchase. Another error made is logical. One would assume that crown allotment boundaries in Doutta Galla and Jika Jika would line up but they don't. That's why there are dog legs at creek crossings at Woodland/Reynard, Albion, Ormond/Brunswick etc. Lemon has drawn the northern boundary of 15 Doutta Galla as being on the same line as Gaffney St, but it's actually the line of Spence St in Keilor Park, continued east to the Moonee Ponds Creek.
Andrew Lemon states on page 75 "..,in 1871, The Young Queen Inn had closed for good . William Smith,its owner had bought adjoining blocks in the abortive Pascoe Vale Village over the intervening years until he owned 21acres on the north side of the creek and a similar area on the south. William Jones, who had worked land in the Essendon district for 30 years bought Smith's properties in 1874...."
Maybe north of the creek Andrew, but Smith's land on 15, Doutta Galla was sold to William Fletcher as documented in bold type above. I have Peck Avenue as Smith's southern boundary, where it adjoined McCord's purchase and Peck Avenue was the Drive for Peck's Lebanon,so let's check on Fletcher and McCord.
Having done this check,I assume that PeckS Rd (being the boundary between the Smith and McCord purchases) was a driveway shared by the owners of each. Here's how Lebanon's 34 acres came into existence.
FRANKLIN’S 12 ACRES. This obviously became, with William Smith’s purchase, part of John Murray Peck’s “Lebanon”. The total of the two, which comprised lot 4 of Brewster’s post-partition subdivision, was about the 34 acres that Lebanon’s owners were assessed on over the years. Neither the 1st nor 2nd series index for Sir John Franklin mentions any sale of his 12 acres. I checked the index for Archibald McLachlan and Frederick Armand Powlett, who acted as his agents at various times. I checked the index for Dame Jane Franklin. There was no mention of this part of section 15, Doutta Galla! In desperation, I returned to the ground floor and consulted Doutta Galla microfiche 85 again.
There I saw 46645s and was partly rewarded when I raced up to the 6th floor to try application 46645. The search certificate referred to Sir John’s purchase of the northern 295 links of section 15 but there was no sketch of title. The search certificate referred to the land being fenced in 1882. This was probably done by John Murray Peck, who had bought William Smith’s original purchase and established “Lebanon”. I think Peck noticed that nobody used the land between his 22? acres and section 23, so he just started using it as if he owned it. Broadmeadows Shire was receiving rates on his whole 34 acres so there would have been no question of his right to use Franklin’s land. Indeed, in 1879-80, Hugh Peck may have been occupying Franklin and Smith’s purchases when he was assessed on 34 acres; names were listed alphabetically and Peck’s name appears where the name of W.H.Fletcher would be expected to be. J.M. Peck died on 19-11-1903 and he does not seem to have been listed in Broadmeadows’ 1899-1900 rate book. It was probably at this time that the Pecks realised that their lack of title to the 12 acre block would be discovered. Did they just abandon it?
In 1879, John Morgan English, had bought Belle Vue ( renamed Oak Park and separated from Franklin’s land only by the creek and Lebanon Reserve) after the death of Fawkner’s widow, Eliza, and (converted Fawkner’s single storey weatherboard house into the double storey mansion still standing at the top of Oak Park Court-YET TO BE PROVED TO MY KNOWLEDGE, 26-10-2013.) He leased out the farm to his relatives, the Morgans and Mrs Morgan’s mother, Mary Knight but was still involved in the area, purchasing the 200 acre eastern part of section 23, which adjoined Franklin’s 12 acres. He seems to have done the same as I suspect Peck did earlier and, in 1902, just squatted on the land and paid the rates. In 1926, J.M.English applied for the title to Franklin’s land.. (Application 46645, Broadmeadows Rates.)
In 1920-1, Louisa Ellen, the widow of J.M.Peck had 38 acres, which probably consisted of lot 4 (Franklin and Smith’s purchases from Brewster) plus about 4 acres of subdivision lots in the Byron Vale Estate or another estate nearby.
Why didn’t Franklin sell the 12 acres when the section 23 land was sold? My guess is that he and his heirs (and the titles office) forgot that this land was on a separate title to the St Johns Estate. If he’d left his land to his wife, Dame Jane Franklin, she might have been aware that the 12 acres existed. However he seems to have punished Jane for not bearing him a son. He left her only her clothes and gave the rest of his estate to a daughter from a previous marriage. This daughter had probably never been to Australia.
The confusion seems to have set in when a man named Dunn leased a 123 acre farm from Sir John. He was followed by Elizabeth Guest prior to 1862 but the 123 acre farm was still called “Dunn’s Farm”. As explained in bold type under section 23, Dunn’s Farm must have included the 12 acres (adjoining section 23) at the northern end of section 15. This lessee could have been Thomas Dunn of section 15 or Edmund Dunn of Viewpoint in Tullamarine.
When the 123 acre Dunn’s Farm was leased to Henry Mawbey for 5 years on 17-2-1862, it was wrongly described as being entirely in section 23. Significantly no boundaries of the farm were described in the memorial! (121 455).
I had intended to include a copy of Sketch of Title 46645 but the clerk’s scribble is so illegible that readers would not be able to make head or tail of it. Here’s what it says.
46645. John M.English.
Part allotment 15 Doutta Galla.
Claim by possession.
L.R.O. Sir John Franklin
(see D 847* set out on ??) also see 11578 from which it appears that his widow Jane Franklin is interested.
John Morgan English, the registered proprietor of abutting land in 9 T? Vol. 2209 Fol 441708 (records available only go to volume 999) from which the land applied for was with other land excised **thus necessitating this present application
(* D 847 records the sale of the 12 acres to Franklin by Brewster.)
(** Broadmeadows Rate books show that in 1900 Alex Robertson had just replaced dairyman, Robert G.Bryant as lessee of “200 acres Doutta Galla” owned by the Hodgson executors. It is known that this was Thomas Kelly’s former eastern portion of section 23, which was roughly between the Strathaird/Menarra St corner and Lebanon Reserve.
His application states (inter alia)
That Crown Grantee was Edward Jones Brewster- But he conveyed
That he has never acknowledged ownership or been called on to do so and no rent or payment has been made by or claimed from him except rent under lease from Land Investment Coy to whom he has sold under contract of sale dated 4 Dec 1923
He occupies under Co lease-
That from 1902 or sometime prior unto: up to 26 June 1918 land was occupied by himself and his brother (probably Joseph English) for grazing purposes and since that date by himself as owner? or lessee as ###? for same purposes:
All rates paid by him or his brother till 1918 and from 1918 to 1923 by him since then by Co. ?? Coy.
Since 1902 a fence has always stood on south boundary of land on south of land applied for- red on survey plan (survey plan not enclosed) and was erected on line upon which an old fence had stood for at least 15 years prior to 1902.
19 Dec 1925 Staty Decl of Harry Huntington Peck
456830 He well knows land in survey plan ???A
(Of course the future author of “Memoirs of a Stockman” should have known the land; his father had squatted on it for about 20 years.)
He is joint owner of land abutting (on portion of south side ) of red and blue and first became acquainted with (said?) land in 1882 when such land was enclosed by fences on south, west and north west sides shown on plan and land has been enclosed by fences from 1882 (to date?) except that about 1902 a new fence was erected on south on line on which original fence stood since 1882.
WILLIAM SMITH’S PURCHASE. (Lebanon).
Andrew Lemon states that, in 1874, William Jones bought William Smith’s properties, about 21 acres on the north of the creek and a similar area on the south. (P.75.) The 1879-80 Broadmeadows rate book lists William Jones as the owner and occupier of 20 acres at Pascoe Vale, but as this was in the Campbellfield riding it would have been north of the bridge. This was probably the land he bought from Mr Heron in about 1865, and on which he was harvesting 2 tons of hay per acre in 1888 (Victoria & Its Metropolis P.704). The rate collector made no mention of Jones having about 20 acres south of the creek, unless my transcription was faulty.
The owners of Smith’s purchase.
William Smith (not the man associated with Flemington and Moonee Ponds, P.697 Vic. & Its Metrop.) bought the Young Queen Inn from John Watson in December 1842. The inn, being on the most popular of the three routes to Sydney until the Broadmeadows Township bridge was built in 1854(Lemon P.17.) This was on lot 3 of Pascoeville, consisting of 1 acre 2 roods and 5 perches, on the s/w side of the government (Pascoe Vale) road. Lot 4 was s/e of it, probably fronting the creek and lot 2 was n/w of it. The south west boundary was a lane leading from Sparke St to the Moonee Moonee Ponds (Sydney 1523). This memorial, detailing the sale of lot 3 by the hotel’s builder, Edward Butler, to Watson on 29 and 31 May 1841, unfortunately gives no measurements but I think Sparke St would have been near Marks St if all blocks were about 1 ½ acres. Fate might have decreed that Smith would never purchase his block from Brewster in 1848. He was charged with the manslaughter of his servant, Joseph Plant, in 1847 but he was acquitted. (“Between Two Creeks” Richard Broome.)
William Henry Fletcher.
It is unknown whether this was the same man after whom Fletcher St in Essendon was named. The latter was granted land including the Target store at Highpoint (Maribyrnong: Action in Tranquility), 260 acres between Maribyrnong-Ormond Rd and a line indicated by Gladstone St- stretching from Scotia St to the Moonee Ponds Creek, and south of this the 320 acre triangle bounded by Epsom and Ascot Vale Rds. Surely he would describe himself as a gentleman rather than a yoeman.
John Murray Peck.
Arriving in 1854, at the age of 21, with three other young Yanks (Freeman Cobb etc.), Peck was the “action man” who could drive huge teams of horses on the Cobb & Co line that soon opened to Castlemaine. His powerful voice and commanding presence later established him as Australia’s foremost auctioneer of fat cattle. Before moving to section 15, Peck lived at “Mascoma” in Ascot Vale. (See volume 2.) His family pioneered the area in New Hampshire, U.S.A. near the Mascoma River where the town of Lebanon sprang up. Peck, his London-born wife and their son, Harry Huntinton Peck were buried at the Will Will Rook cemetery.
In the Essendon Conservation Study (Call No. 720.288099 BUT), Graeme Butler confirms some of the title information I have supplied, apart from calling William Smith “John”. In his entry for “Lebanon”, Butler states that Smith lost the property surrounding the house to William Fletcher via a series of mortgages in 1872. Fletcher converted the title to Torrens in 1881 and J,M.Peck bought 40 acres soon afterwards*.
John Murray Peck built Lebanon (still standing in Wendora St ) in about 1882.
*As Lebanon consisted of 34 acres, it must have included Sir John Franklin’s 12 acres between Smith’s land and section 23. The Broadmeadows rate book did not state that Peck was leasing the 12 acres so I can only assume that the co-founder of Cobb and Co had just squatted on it and paid the rates, as J.M.English did from 1902. (See details under “Franklin’s 12 Acres”.)
This land includes the Red Rooster site, where stood the illegally demolished “Cook’s Homestead”. This name was bestowed on the house by Pascoe Vale kids of the 1930’s, such as the late Jim McKenzie and his future wife Peggy, because it was owned by Broadmeadows Shire Secretary Albert Cook. (See Kilts and Cow Dung Flats by R.Gibb.) Its name was actually Wanganui (IT WAS WANNAEUE- GOOGLE "WANNAEUE, PASCOE VALE"), and it was said to have been built by J.M.Peck of Lebanon. (Sam Merrifield’s House Names Index P.37.) Peggy McKenzie told me that a Miss Roberts owned the Wanganui land (south to the garage site); she was probably related to J.M.Peck, whose wife, born in Bond St, London on 6-6-1840, was Louisa Ellen Roberts. (Gravestone, Will Will Rook cemetery.)
Now back to PASCOE VILLA, but first we'll look for William Smith's trial. "smith, plant, manslaughter" Refine to 1847. Make a cup of coffee at this point; it's a longy! (I'm having a coffee before I adjust the layout!)
MANSLAUGHTER.(N.B. Paragraphing is mine.)
William Smith was charged with the manslaughter, by committing a violent assault, of one Joseph Plant, on the 26th June last. The prisoner pleaded not guilty, and was defended by Messrs. Stephen and Stawell.
The first witness examined was Shadrach Williams, in the employ of the defendant, who gave precisely the same
evidence as that which was adduced at the Coroner's Inquest, and which has already appeared at length in this journal ; his evidence was in effect that the deceased, who was also in the employ of Mr, Smith, came home very drunk on the 26th June last, and commenced quarrelling with his wife ; Mr. Smith desired him to be quiet, when the deceased applied some insolent language, when Mr.Smith proceeded to turn him out of the kitchen ; in doing which they both fell, deceased having hold of his master's waistcoat, and breaking the guard-chain of Mr. Smith's watch ; he did not see Plant receive any blows or kicks, and had such been given he must have seen
them ; he was aware that Plant had for some time suffered from a hurt which he had frequently seen Mrs. Plant poultice ; the arm was so bad that upon the day on which the alleged assault occurred, deceased was unable to load his dray whenhe was going into town in the morning.
(The conversation which the witness had had with the deceased subsequent to the alleged assault, shewing the animus of Plant, and which was given at the Coroner's Inquest, his Honor would not permit to be given.)
Sarah Plant, widow of the deceased,being sworn, also gave similar testimony to that which she gave at the inquest, and swearing positively that Mr. Smith came into the kitchen, seized the deceased by the throat, threw him down on the verandah, and kicked him on the right wrist, which until this occurrence was uninjured ; she also swore that Mr. Smith threw himself upon the deceased whilst he was upon the ground, and placed his knee upon his right side ; that subsequently the deceased got up, when Mr.Smith again knocked him down, upon which Mrs. Smith came out with a rake, with which she was about to strike deceased when witness prevented her.
On cross-examination this woman ad-mitted she had been transported for manslaughter, but rigidly adhered to her former statement so far as it implicated Mr.Smith, strenuously alleging that her husband had not the slightest injury on either of his arms until this occurrence ; she also denied that any provocation was given by the deceased to Mr. Smith.
Arthur O'Mullane, M. D., sworn-I knew Joseph Plant ; he was a patient of mine; I first saw him on the 1st July;I saw him in a shop at Collins-street; he brought me a note from Mr. Belcher, requesting me to examine his arm and give him a certificate of the state of his health ; I attended the deceased, Plant, until the period of his death, on the 20th July ; deceased was a man of remarkably weak and feeble constitution. I should say his constitution was at least ten years older than himself; he told me he was fifty-nine years of age ; he had
suffered from epilepsy for years, and when attacked had several times fallen in the fire ; he had a wound or bruise on his right wrist, about three inches in length, and about two inches wide ; he died of gangrene ; I treated the deceased according to the most approved mode of surgical practice ; his death resulted from a bruise on his right fore arm, destroying the vitality of the soft parts so far as the bruise extended ; this bruise would not have affected any man but one of a very bad constitution ; treatment such as the female witness has sworn deceased received from Mr. Smith, would have a tendency to accelerate his death; amputation was performed upon the deceased's right arm on the Friday previous to his death ; he lived till the morning succeeding that on which the operation was performed.
By his Honor-If the operation had been performed the day after the injury had taken place, the same result would have attended the operation.
By Mr. Stawell-The deceased had a very shattered constitution, the result of epilepsy, intemperance, and old age; he told me he had been a hard drinker ; the bruise I speak of was between the bones of the right fore arm.
By his Honor-Ordinarily speaking, a kick on that part would not cause death.
Examination continued-The wound was about three inches in depth, and about half the width, when I first saw
him ; nature had not set up the process for the removal of the dead flesh ; had the deceased fallen down and broken his leg, it is probable, from the general state of his health, he would not have recovered ; the skin of
the arm was not broken; if the arm were not fixed, a violent blow or kick might have been given without breaking the skin.
By, his Honor-I don't think this bruise upon the arm could have been caused by anything but a kick with a
narrow blunt instrument.
Examination continued-On examining deceased there was an old mark on his hip, but no appearance of a recent
wound there ; there were also some marks on his left wrist, which deceased said he got in the bush ; I was a fellow passenger of Mr. Smith's to this colony, and a more respectable orderly quiet man was not on board.
Henry Moor - (Deceased's affidavit produced) the signature attached to this is mine ; this is merely the deposition made upon which to ground the application for a summons against Mr. Smith.
William Hull, Esq., J. P., sworn (Deceased's dying deposition produced)I knew Joseph Plant ; this is his dying
deposition, which was taken down by Mr. Belcher in my presence ; at the time this was taken Plant was sinking fast, and he was conscious that he was about to submit to an operation which might cause his death ; deceased was at a lodging house in Collins-street ; I said to deceased, " you're now about to have your arm taken off, it will probably cause your death : I tell you this, that you may regard what you now say as your dying declaration, and I hope you'll speak the truth ;" he wept, and said " it's hard to be murdered at my age."
I said, " how old are you ?" he said "59;" deceased then said, "I owe my death to Mr. Smith ," I said, " I hope you're at peace with all mankind, and particularly with Mr. Smith?" he then repeated his observation that Mr. Smith had murdered him ; I then said, " I'll send you a clergyman ;" and I believe the Rev. Mr. Thomson visited him.
His Honor-Is that all that passed ? Mr. Hull-It is, your Honor. His Honor-Then that won't do : in dying declarations, there must be evidence that the party making it was conscious that he was past all hope.
The counsel for the prisoner stated they had no objection to the deposition being read.
His Honor-That may be, but I have a duty to perform ; and, so far as the evidence goes, that deposition is clearly not admissible.
Examined by Mr. Stephen.-I have known the defendant some years and always considered him a highly respectable man ; I never heard a report to his prejudice till this unfortunate case.
W. R. Belcher, clerk of the Bench,sworn.-I recollect going to where Plant was, with Mr. Hull ; I went there by
order of the magistrates, in consequence of information received from Dr. O'Mullane ; deceased appeared in a very feeble state, and said he thought he had not long to live, and accordingly his deposition was taken.
His Honor.-Is that all ?
Mr. Belcher.-Yes, your Honor.
His Honor, having read the deposition, said that he thought more injustice would be done to the prisoner by withholding the deposition than by allowing it to be put in in evidence, and the counsel for the defendant having consented, the deposition was put in and read, in which the deceased attributed the injuries he had received on the right arm to an attack made upon him by Mr. Smith, the defendant.
Mr. Croke here referred to the evidence of the man Williams, and Sarah Plant, upon which His Honor remarked, that there could be no doubt one or the other of them was perjured.
W, B. Wilmot, Esq., coroner, sworn. -(Deposition of Sarah Plant read, as taken at the inquest.) This was read
over to her before she signed it ; this is the substance of what I considered to be material at the time. His Honor questioned the coroner as to whether Mrs. Plant said anything more than what was contained in the
deposition read. The Coroner had some recollection of her having said something about a second assault, but she gave her evidence so extremely loose that he had great difficulty in collecting the substance.
His Honor remarked that it was especially desirable, for the future, that in cases of this nature the verbatim testimony of witnesses should be taken, as what might be deemed unimportant at the time might ultimately turn out to bemost important.
By Mr. Stephen.-When I read the deposition over to Mrs. Plant she did not object to it, nor did she say that
anything was omitted.
(Deposition made at the police-office by Joseph Plant read, the groundwork of an application for a summons for an assault against Mr. Smith, in which the deponent swore that Mr. Smith, at thetime of the assault, made use of theexpression-"I'll kill the old b-." This closed the case for the prosecution.
Mr. Stephen, at the commencement of his address to the jury, remarked upon the discrepancy in the witness' statements.
His Honor.-Where two witnesses for the crown are called and contradict each other, I shall certainly desire the jury to acquit the prisoner.
After some few observations from Mr.Croke, His Honor said, there were no circumstances to enable the jury to prefer one evidence to another. Mr. Stephen said, he would at once place a witness in the box who would
settle the matter.
Stephen Bunistead, a fellow servant of the deceased, sworn.-The night before the deceased went into town on the
Saturday he complained to me of his right arm being very bad, having hurt it in the bush ; on Saturday the deceased was unable to load his dray ; for three weeks before this I have seen the deceased with his right wrist bandaged up, and deceased once asked me to bring out some ointment for his arm, but I have forgotten the name.
His Honor, in summing up, said, that the evidence of the last witness tended in a great measure to confirm Williams' statement. The woman Plant's statement was contradictory and unsatisfactory in many points, and differed materially in some parts from what the deceased had himself stated ; the jury he thoughtwould have no difficulty in acquitting the prisoner.
The jury retired for a few minutes and then returned a verdict of not guilty, accompanied with a remark, in which his Honor the Judge coincided, that there was not the slightest imputation upon the character of Mr. Smith, who was immediately discharged.
His Honor, addressing himself to the jury, said, that he presumed they discredited the testimony of the woman
Plant, and on being informed that they did, his Honor directed her to be recalled and after telling her that neither he nor the jury, and he should imagine but very few in court, believed her, committed her for perjury, telling the Crown Prosecutor that he could act as he pleased in the matter.
Mr. Croke.-From a circumstance which has been communicated to me since the jury retired I am disposed to
think that what the woman stated was the truth.
His Honor.-Well, I have done my duty in committing her, you must use your own discretion whether you indict
her or not. ((P.4, The Melbourne Argus, 3-8-1847.)
One of the people involved in this case had a connection with CUMBERLAND and SPRING FARM.But before I get onto that, I've just realised that I've made a mistake, and as I think it's in comments, I can't fix it there.The wife of William Pomeroy was Anne, not Mary. There's a clue!
This person married, if I've got my facts right, a daughter of William and Anne Greene and wrote a book, which can be perused at the historic Woodlands Homestead; I think the title is Lady --a-e--'s Memoirs. The Cumberland Estate included a fair bit of Woodlands.This person became the Chief Justice and with his cousin "Alphabetical" Foster,the Colonial Secretary, wrote Victoria's (very conservative) constitution.
NO THINK MUSIC,JUST A FEW WOODLANDS FACTS AND ONE OF MY CORNY JOKES AND THEN TIME'S UP.
Two Bulla township streets were named after the Greenes, the diagonal part of Somerton Rd that led to the east-west section and Lochton, and Rawdon St, named after William and Ann's son. It made my blood boil every time I saw GREEN ST in Melway; such historical ignorance!
Some of the pioneers retained the speech traits of their native countries. This fellow wanted his young farmhand to put the horse into the stable and as he was a nice chap,he said,"Take horse to stall,please." There was concern when the lad didn't join them for the evening meal and when they heard thundering hooves at night.
Rushing out, they saw the lad on the horse he was supposed to have put away, and on the other horse that they had frequently seen in the Oaklands point to point- the Chief Justice.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 11 January 1856 p 4 Family Notices
... William Foster Stawell, barrister-at-law, to Mary Frances Elizabeth, only daughter of the late William Pomeroy Greene, of Woodlands, Esq.
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