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WHO'D WANT TO BE A FAMILY HISTORIAN?
My great grandfather got a great write up in BROADMEADOWS A FORGOTTEN HISTORY but as I discovered while conducting rate research for my brother, a family historian, most pioneers rated nary a mention. That's why I have spent about half of my waking hours providing local history to family historians since 1988.
While doing a WHITE, MAIN RIDGE, DROMANA search on trove, I found some errors that could hide information sought by family historians. Charles Graves Jnr of Shoreham is on the list of burials at Flinders Cemetery as Charles CRAVES. Mrs Margaret Haddow's obituary calls her Mrs Margaret Haddon. She was buried at Flinders but is not on the burial list.
The former was the son of Charles Graves (died 1906) who was much involved with the McLear family. He and Brownlee leased 4000 acres of Jamieson's Special Survey in 1851 and obviously sub let a portion of it to Mary Ann McLear, who called her little farm (on the bank of Dunns Creek) The Willow. He and Mary Ann were partners in a hawking business and George McLear was with him at Little Scotland when one of the blonde Cairns youngsters complained ,"Ae cunnae crruck a whee whip yet." In the year before he left to establish a store at Shoreham, Charles Graves Snr. bought a property opposite the drive-in site, had it fenced by the Rymer brothers and sold it to Mary Ann.
Margaret Haddow's husband was the shepherd at Barragunda and obtained the grant for c/a 9 Fingal on the east side of Old Cape Schanck Rd north of the junction of that road with Patterson and Boneo Rds. The triangular block to the west, c/a 9A, was granted to Governor Latrobe's cousin, E.Latrobe Bateman who was involved in the design of the Barragunda homestead (probably internal.) This property was later occupied by Carrier Harry Cairns so it is no surprise that he married Margaret's daughter, Margaret.
Imagine how excited GRAVES and HADDOW family historians would be to discover the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook page. There they would discover that Charles Graves Jnr. and Margaret Haddow actually were buried at Flinders despite their names not appearing on the burial list, as well as details about where they lived etc.
This journal will take years to complete but here's a start.
This morning I needed to continue the grind of the CHRONOLOGY OF BURIALS AT DROMANA, by adding biography for Mary Ann Peatey's entry from PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS. But I wasn't up to starting while I sipped my first coffee of the day and I'd been thinking a chronology of the Mornington Peninsula would be a good project if I ever found the time. And I don't believe in rehashing what has already been written, by Leonard Wilding in 1907, countless articles in 1934 etc. Would you believe that the Yanks were sailing past the peninsula before the short-lived settlement at Sorrento was established or Port Phillip was even discovered? The 25-1-1802 entry resulted from a BASS'S STRAITS search on trove and I'll bet this information won't be found in any existing history.
The following is the Copy of a Letter from Capt. Eliphalet Smith, of the Brig Fanny, extracted from a New York Paper, dated at Sea, Jan. 25, 1802.
I am now on my passage from Port Jackson for Batavia, and am within a few days sail of that place; my route was thro' Bass's Straits which separate Vandieman's Land from New Holland. Mine is the first American ship that has ever made this passage and I flatter myself, from the observations I have made, that this passage (which has hitherto been considered impracticable by all seamen, owing principally to the Western winds prevalent in this lat.) will be rendered not only safe but expeditious, and of considerable advantage to the mercantile
(The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842) Sunday 27 November 1803 p 2 Article)
THE DISCOVERY OF PORT PHILLIP.
The following interesting letter by Mr P. G. King, of Sydney, grandson of Governor King, relative to the discovery of Port Phillip, appears in the Argus of the 4th inst :—
( The very long letter contains incredible detail about early surveying of coast lines. Extract only. Lieutenant Grant, a friend of Captain Schanck who had designed the Lady Nelson with its sliding keel, had not noticed the entrance while bringing the vessel out or during his extensive survey. )
In January, 1801, Grant was followed through the straits by a small brig commanded by a Mr Black, who in passing
discovered and named King Island. After a short refit Grant proceeded to Western Port, accompanied by Ensign
Barreillier, and made an extensive examination and survey, returning to Sydney on 14th May. Here Grant left his
vessel, and went back to England, being succeeded in the command by his officer,Murray, now appointed as an acting lieutenant.
It was then that Murray was directed to carry out the instructions of Governor King, and he proceeded at once to Western Port, as the basis of his operations. On the 5th January, 1802, Murray sailed out of Western Port, and ran along the coast, passing Cape Schanck with a strong breeze "dead on shore," but he kept on for about 12 miles, when he saw an opening in the land that had the appearance of a harbour. For this he then bore up,knowing well the good qualities of his vessel, and that she would work out of the difficulty if he were disappointed
in finding an entrance into it.
With Mr Bowen at the masthead looking out, he stood on till within a mile and a half of the eastern rocky point, and boldly approached what must have shown itself as broken water, for Mr Bowen presently reported "Rocks ahead!" doubtless mistaking the now well-known " Rip" for shallow dangers. The line of breakers appeared to reach all the way, or nearly all the way, across the entrance, and Murray was obliged — though he could
perceive inside the troubled sea on the bar a fine sheet of smooth water of great extent — to haul to the wind, and though anxious to know more of this promising place, with the true instinct of a seaman in a gale on a lee shore, made good his offing, and with strong winds and in "tumultuous" and "confused sea" passed outwards beyond Cape Otway, till at length on the 11th he sought refuge and rest under King Island, anchoring in Elephant Bay.
Finding himself so far to windward, he examined Three Hummock Island, but the weather continuing bad, " worse than he had ever experienced since he sailed the seas," he regained a quiet anchorage in Western Port, waiting his opportunity to revisit the bar-bound harbour he had so reluctantly turned away from.
He now adopted the prudent course of making a preliminary examination of the entrance in a boat, and accordingly despatched Mr Bowen in the launch with 14 days' provisions ; but in a much less time Bowen returned with a favourable account of there being a good channel into the harbour.
On the morning of the 15th February,1802, the Lady Nelson at noon found herself off the bar, and Murray, with all sail set stood proudly on, the ship's way accelerated by a strong flood tide — the first flood tide which, in that narrow channel, had ever borne along with it a living freight. (P.2, Launceston Examiner, 9-10-1880.)
In April 1802, a French expedition ship Naturaliste under Jacques Hamelin explored the area, as part of the Baudin expedition to Australia. He named the island Ile des Français, since Anglicised as French Island.
(Wilipedia entry for French Island.)
With Port Phillip (originally dubbed Port King) having been discovered there was no way the French could be allowed to nose around there too, hence the Collins settlement at Sullivans Bay.
7 and 8-11-1803.
On Thursday arrived the Patterson, Capt.Ahern, from Providence, bound to China, and the Ocean, Capt. Mertho. from England, but last from Port Philip in Bass Straits, whither she conveyed a cargo of stores and provisions
for the Establishment of an intended Settlement under the Command of His Honor Lieut. Governor DAVID COLLINS, who had arrived in His Majesty's ship Calcutta, Capt. D. WOODRIFFE, having on board a Military Establishment, with 2 free Settlers, 209 Male Convicts, 15 Women and children: 8 Convicts died on the passage.
The Calcutta and Ocean sailed from England the 24th of last April, touched at TeneRIFFE,Rio Janeiro, and the Cape of Good Hope: The Ocean arrived at Port Phillip the 7th, and the Calcutta the 8th. ult. The Lieut. Governor having communicated to His EXCELLENCY the same unfavorable circumstances respecting Port Phillip not being
calculated for an extensive Settlement as was reported by the Surveyor General, Mr. Grimes,who with other assistance surveyed it in January last, but whose report had not reached England before the Calcutta sailed: Lieut. GovernorCollins has therefore suspended his proceedings until he receives directions from His Excellency
the Governor in Chief, which he has requested by Mr. Collins, a Passenger, under the sanction of Government, who very handsomely volunteered his services to bring the Lieut. Governor's Letters in an open six oar'd boat, which there is every reason to believe he would have accomplished with great credit to himself altho he encountered much bad weather and heavy gales in the Straits and on the Coast, but being so fortunate as to fall in with the Ocean off Point Upright, Capt. Mertho, who appears to have had no intention of touching here,very humanely took Mr. Collins and his people on board, and brought them to this Port.
The following are the Names and Numbers of the Civil and Military Establishment of the intended Settlement now arrived in the Calcutta and Ocean at Port Phillip, viz.
His Honor DAVID COLLINS, Esq. Lieut. Gov.
Rev. Rich. Hopwood, Chaplain
Benj. Barbauld, Dep. Judge Advocate
Wm. l'Anson, Surg.
Matt. Bowden, 1st. Assist. Surg.
Wm. Hopley, 2d do.
Leonard Fosbrook, Dep. Commissary
G. P. Harris. Dep. Surveyor
A. W. U. Humphreys, Mineralogist
T. Clark, Superintendent
W. Paterson, ditto
J. Ingles and W. Parish, Overseers.
PRESENT MILITARY ESTABLISHMENT DETACHMENT FROM THE ROYAL MARINES.
Lieut. Col. DAVID COLLINS, Captain Commandant, W. Sladder, and ----- Johnson, 1st Lieuts. ----- Lord, 2d Lieut.
58 Rank and File, including Non-commissioned Officers.
From the uncertainty of Capt. Mertho's putting in here, and the risque attending Mr.Collins's efforts to reach this Port in the open boat, Lieut. Gov. Collins and Capt. Woodriffe declined sending the Government dispatches,
or any private letter by this conveyance.
His Majesty's Armed Tender Lady Nelson which was loaded for Norfolk Island, was immediately cleared, and on the GOVERNOR'S return from Parramatta on Friday made the the Signal for Sailing, and is expected to leave this on Monday morning with the Ocean for Port Phillip, to enable Lieut. Gov. Collins to comply with His Excellency's Instructions. (P.1, The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser, 27-11-1803.)
In previous journals, I have wrongly assumed that the Halfway House in which Lyndhurst Lizzie died was the one established by James McMahon on the site of the present Riviera Hotel (Melway 97 D11.) From previous experience, correcting these journals does not remove such false assumptions in Google search summaries, so a new journal is needed to point out this error. I have had a niggling doubt about this assumption since I saw a report of a Melbourne Hunt event which mentioned the Halfway Hotel and properties crossed by the riders which seemed to be nowhere near Long Island, and with no mention of the Kananook Creek which would have had to be crossed to reach them. Strangely, the northern boundary of the parish of Frankston is Seaford Rd except on Long Island (between the creek and the beach) where it went north to include James McMahon's grant (probably the pre-emptive right of his Long Beach run.) Relying on memory after too many late nights caused another mistake, my statement that McMahon's Half Way House (or Carrum Hotel) was in the parish of Lyndhurst. It was on the northernmost grant in the parish of Frankston.
At the time of writing, I was only aware of one HALF WAY HOTEL in Lyndhurst (McMahon's hotel likely to be so described despite my mistake, being only a short stroll from the parish of Lyndhurst.) However the death notices of Richard Taylor and his only surviving daughter, Mrs Cairns, led me to the discovery that there was a multitude of HALF WAY HOTELS and that the one with which they were connected was near Cranbourne.
Death of Mr. Richard Taylor.
Almost a Nonogenarian.
Early on Saturday morning Mr Richard Taylor, widely known as the licensee of the Half-way House hotel at Lyndhurst, on the main road between Dandenong and Cranbourne, departed this life. Deceased had reached the ripe old age of 87 years, and until quite recently had been in possession of good health. Till the end he retained his mental faculties clearly.By his death the district has lost one of its most familiar identities, one who was closely connected with the growth of the place from the old coaching days, and who was a highly respected citizen.
Richard Taylor was born in 1825 at Stockwell, near Oldham, Lancashire, and was a typical Englishman. In his native town he learnt the trade of carpenter, and after working at it for some years. emigrated to Australia in 1854 in the good ship Marco Polo. At that time there was keen demand for artisans in Melbourne and Mr Taylor had no difficulty in getting employment at 25/ per day. Like most others of a sturdy nature he drifted along with the gold fever to the diggings. Twelve months' experience taught him that all is not gold that glitters, and he returned to Melbourne and followed his trade with Messrs Bruman and Brooks, a leading firm at the time.
Here he continued for about 15 years, and then he took up the land at Lyndhurst, comprising 156 acres, upon which he has since resided, and on which stands the familiar house of call. Mr Taylor found good brick clay on his property, and by his own energy he excavated a clay hole, and after getting some little assistance in moulding bricks, he built with his own hands the Half-way House, and built it well and faithfully too, the
work taking him two years. This was in the early seventies, and Mr Taylor obtained a publican's licence which he retained until the time of his death.
Mr Taylor was twice married, but the only surviving child is Mrs. Cairns. He was known as a very straightforward man, and one of great individual character. The funeral took place on Sunday, when many old friends followed the remains to their last resting place the Cranbourne cemetery.
(P.3, South Bourke and Mornington Standard, 12-9-1912.)
DESPITE her many years, that grand old lady, Mrs Cairns, of the Half Way House, still leads a very active life and takes a keen interest in the things about her. On Thursday, accompanied by her nephew, Mr Harry Cairns, son of Mr Fred Cairns*, and Mrs W. Tucker jnr., she made the round trip to Rosebud and back. Mrs Cairns’ father conducted the Half Way Hotel many years ago, and Mrs Cairns herself can remember when the bullock teams from Gippsland stopped there on their way towards Melbourne.
(P.11, The Dandenong Journal, 11-6-1941.)
*FORGAN (Cairns). – On September 19,at Melbourne, Leslie, loving foster-son of the late Elizabeth and Alexander Cairns, and loved brother of Frederick Cairns, Maggie,Josephine, and Elsie Forgan, late of Lyndhurst, aged 35 years. (P.2, Argus, 21-9-1944.) Leslie must have been a newborn when adopted by Alexander Henry Cairns and Lyndhurst Lizzie because it's a fair bet that he was named after a child they'd lost at Wonthaggi, Christopher but referred to as LESLIE.
CAIRNS.— In sad but loving memory of our dear son, Christopher George Leslie Cairns (dear Little Leslie), who left us to dwell with the Master, Sunday, 21st June, 1896, at half-past 12, aged 6 years and 8 months.POEM,
Inserted by his loving, sorrowing parents, A.H. and E. Cairns, Wonthaggi Post Office,South Gippsland, late of Boneo, Dromana.(P.15, Weekly Times, 26-6-1897.)
AFTER a short illness lasting only three days Mrs Eliza Cairns, aged 96 years, one of Lyndhurst’s oldest and most highly respected residents, passed away peacefully at her home, “Lyndfield,” the picturesque old Half
Way House, on Saturday afternoon last. Deceased, who had led an active life right up to the time of her death, was a very keen gardener, and the spacious grounds of her home were always a picture.
She was born in England and came to Australia with her parents when she was very young. For some years she lived at Beechworth, and when older was employed at Dromana, where she met and married Mr Alexander Cairns**, of Boneo. Before coming to live at the Half Way House, which her father (Mr Taylor) conducted as a hotel, she lived at Powlett River* in South Gippsland.
The late Mrs Cairns had lived it Lyndhurst for nearly 30 years, and deepest sympathy is extended to her sorrowing relatives in the loss they have sustained. The funeral took place on Monday afternoon, when the remains were buried in the Church of Christ portion of the Dandenong Cemetery. Mr Marshall conducted the service at the home and at the graveside. J.Garnar & Sons had charge of the funeral arrangements. The many beautiful floral tributes received reflected the high esteem in which the late Mrs Cairns was held.
(P.3, The Dandenong Journal, 25-6-1941.)
(* i.e. Wonthaggi.
**Alexander Henry Cairns, 8th child of David Cairns and Janet, nee Thompson, born in 1856, probably at Boneo.
CAIRNS. -On the 19th January, at his residence,Cranbourne road Lyndhurst (late of Wonthaggi), Alexander Henry, the dearly loved husband of Elizabeth Cairns, aged 65 years.P.1, Argus, 20-1-1920.He was buried at Dandenong Cemetery.)
Pinpointing the location of THIS Halfway House has not been helped by the following.
Victorian Heritage Database Report. Halfway House. B1622 Halfway House Lyndhurst. Location. Cnr Cranbourne Road and Gippsland Highway LYNDHURST.
This report seems to have been prepared in 1963, three years before the old hotel was supposedly demolished. The location given is a pathetic effort from a heritage consultant if a Casey Cardinia website is correct. The location seems to be taken from a very old newspaper report when the South Gippland Highway seems to have been the original route to Gippsland. It was supposed to have been ABOUT four miles from Dandenong. The following gives another clue to the hotel's location, equally unhelpful.
BURGLARY AT TAYLOR'S WAY HOUSE HOTEL,
The Half-way house Hotel situate at the junction of the Cranbourne and Lyndhurst roads, and midway between
Dandenong and Cranbourne, was visited by two enterprising burglars early on the morning of Saturday last.(etc.)
(P.3, South Bourke and Mornington Journal, 21-8-1895.)
Casey Cardinia - links to our past: February 2008
Feb 4, 2008 - Richard Taylor arrived in Lyndhurst in 1869 and opened his hotel, Taylor's Half Way House (pictured below), in 1871. It was demolished in ...(1966)
The following blog is about High Street, Cranbourne, based on an aerial photograph and photos of places in High St taken in the 1960's, one of which is the HALF WAY HOUSE.
Casey Cardinia - links to our past: High Street Cranbourne in the 1960s.
Jan 19, 2011 - This is taken just a bit further up the street than the previous photograph. The car is thought to be a 1961 EK Holden. The Half Way House.
The east-west road at the top of the aerial photo is Camms Rd running west to Evans Rd, which then terminated at the same corner. Whether Cranbourne Road was Hall Rd or the Frankston-Cranbourne Rd, both lead to the South Gippsland Highway at Melway 133 J6. As the 1960's HALF WAY HOUSE was in High St, Richard Taylor's 156 acres must have been at the north west corner of Sladen St and High St-if the 1960's HALF WAY HOUSE was the original hotel, or at least, on the same site. All I have to do now is find the right parish map to confirm that there was a 156 acre grant at this location.
I have discarded what I had previously written about the parish of Eumemmering because it didn't make sense but left the following about another Taylor family.
I discovered Taylors Rd running between Abbotts Rd and Ballarto Rd undoubtedly named after Thomas Taylor who married a Ross girl from Keilor, and may have been related to Richard Taylor.
In view of her native place, Catherine may have been responsible for the location name of Skye, later changed to Lyndhurst South because of the stigma caused by a murder committed there and once again as Skye, postcode 3977.
Mrs. C. Taylor, of Cranbourne
CRANBOURNE, Sunday.-Mrs. Catherine Taylor, who attained her 100th birthday on May 25 this year, and who was
the oldest resident of Cranbourne, having lived in the district for 83 years, died at the home of Mrs. T. Bullock, Duff street, Cranbourne, this morning, after a brief illness.Mrs. Taylor, who was born in the Isle
of Skye, Scotland, in 1835, arrived in Victoria with her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Hugh Ross, when she was aged 15 years. The family lived for a time in the Keilor district, and afterward at Skye,now South Lyndhurst. Mrs. Taylor enjoyed good health up to a few days before her death.
She had vivid recollections of the early days, when Cranbourne was the marketing centre of South Gippsland, and blacks were as numerous as white people. For many years she and her husband used to walk eight miles every Sunday morning to the Cranbourne Presbyterian Church, during the ministry of the Rev. Alexander Duff, who was the first ordained clergyman in the district.
Mrs. Taylor's 100th birthday was celebrated at the home of Mrs. Bullock, where Mrs. Taylor lived after the death of a son,Mr. Richard Taylor, two years ago. On the occasion of her birthday greetings were received from His Excellency the Governor (Lord Huntingfield) and Parliamentary representatives.
Mrs. Taylor's husband, Mr. Thomas Taylor, died 17 years ago at the age of 81 years. Of her family of six children, two are living, Mr.George Taylor of Brisbane and Mr.Malcolm Taylor, of Melbourne. She has 23 grandchildren and 50 great-grandchildren living. The funeral will be at the Cranbourne Cemetery to-morrow afternoon.(P.3, Argus, 14-10-1935.)
LOCATION OF RICHARD TAYLOR'S HALF WAY HOUSE HOTEL.
Glasscocks Rd was the boundary between the parishes of Eumemmering to the north and Lyndhurst to the south as indicated by the curve in Frankston-Dandenong Rd and Perry Rd (Melway 128 B 2-3) which was a government road linking with the existing portion at Melway 94 H9.
As the result of this discovery, I abandoned the Eumemmering map, and discovered that the Lyndhurst map didn't suit either. High St. was the name of the part of the South Gippsland Highway running through the TOWNSHIP OF CRANBOURNE. The highway was probably called the Lyndhurst road in early days and the Cranbourne road, no matter whether it came from Wells Rd at Melway 99 J2 (via Lathams and Halls Rd) or from Frankston, met High St at 133 J6.
Discarding* claims that the hotel was ABOUT four miles from Dandenong and halfway between Dandenong and Cranbourne, I decided to check for a 156 acres property on the township map. (*It is 8 miles along the South Gippsland Highway from the Princes Highway to Sladen Street so both descriptions would place the hotel at Melway 129D1 where no junction of the Lyndhurst and Cranbourne roads would ever have been. Many city adventurers complained that country folk had no idea of estimating distances!)
Township of Cranbourne, Parish of Cranbourne, County of Mornington ...
The most likely location was west of High St as land on the east side of High St was divided into the usual half acre township blocks and south of Sladen St a total of about 39 acres, mainly granted to E.J.Tucker into whose family Lyndhurst Lizzie's companion on the long trip to Rosebud married. West of the GIPPLAND HIGHWAY (as it is labelled, confirming my belief that today's South Gippsland was the original route to Gippsland), 120 acres were reserved for the racecourse and cemetery with most of the rest not alienated till much later.
The north west corner of High and Sladen Street and High St, bounded by Fairbairn and Clarendon Sts contained suburban lots ranging from 7 to 33 acres but averaging about 18 acres each with a total area of 182 acres 2 roods and 34 perches. This was about 26 acres more than the 156 acres that David Taylor bought, perhaps not all in 1869. All 10 crown allotments had been sold by the crown in 1857. It is likely that many of the grantees had become insolvent over the next decade or so; Victoria's first manufacturer of bellows,Joseph Porta, and Ralph Ruddell of Tuerong had both suffered this fate in the early 1860's as well as many others I have noted. I presume that A.Duff was related to Cranbourne's first Presbyterian minister mentioned by Thomas Taylor's widow and sold his grants to David Taylor when the family moved away.
It is likely that David Taylor's 156 acres consisted of crown allotments 2-9. Crown allotments 10 and 1 of 18 acres 3 roods 16 perches and 7 a. 2 r. 11 p. (26 a. 1 r. 27 p. altogether) both fronted Clarendon St and when deducted from the total area of 182 acres 2 roods and 34 perches, leave 156 acres 0 roods and 23 perches. Deduction of no other grants or combinations thereof, produces the 156 acres associated with the hotel.
Crown allotments 1 and 10 both extended south for 650 links (6.5 chains or 130 metres) from Clarendon St, so if my assumption of the composition of David Taylor's land is correct, its northern boundary was the midline of Dearing Avenue and Cochrane St.
Therefore it is likely that the HALFWAY HOUSE (store?) shown on the Casey Cardinia blog was on or near the site of the hotel and may have been the hotel itself before its demolition in 1966. As mentioned earlier, a photo of the hotel is also shown on the blog. I would like to look at it again to see if the bricks moulded by David "with a little assistance" are visible and if there are any similarities with the HAL WAY HOUSE in the 1960's photo. But I'm too weary and have other research commitments of great importance so I'll leave these tasks to others. I'm reasonably sure that I've confirmed the location of Lyndhurst Lizzie's last residence and her father's 156 acres but remember that I've discarded some clues to their location so I could be wrong. At least my conclusion MAKES SENSE.
Having been unable to insert new entries in the original CHRONOLOGY journal for some months, I have decided to attempt to break it up into parts so that researchers don't need to go to my Facebook posts.
ALPHABETICAL SURNAMES INDEX AS AT 22-7-2016.
ADAMS 1-11-1946; AUST 1970, 1979; BAKER 23-11-1938; BARKER 17-1-1948; BARNETT Late April, 1884; BENSON 7/8-4-1931; BRADY 11-10-1887; 13-1-1888, 1891; BLACKER 6-2-1952; BREAR 16-7-1936, 19-1-1948; BROWN 23-6-1956; BRYAN Mid July 1907; BUCHER 4?-7-1930, 4-6-1943; 3-7-1944; BUCIRDE 28-2-1938; BURCHETT Late March 1945; BURNHAM 4-4-1919, 11-4-1951, 12-6-1951; BURRELL 24-5-1892; CAIRNS 27-7-1922, 4-8-1937, 29-12-1943; CARRIGG 15-1-1941, 27-10-1944; CHADWICK 14-1-1943, 21-9-1956; CHAPMAN 24-6-1940, 26-6-1940, 4-4-1947, 7-3-1953; CLARK 27-9-1937; CLAPHAM 28-2-1952; CLARKE 25-1-1924; CLYDESDALE 27?-7-1927, Mid Dec. 1937; COATES (17+)-1-1905; COBURN 8-12-1942; CONNELL Mid July, 1907; CONNELLY 10-6-1948; COOPER 23-1-1937; CORNISH 31-3-1947; COUNSEL 24-10-1947; CRICHTON 21-1-1885, 26-4-1934, 18-2-1942; CROMWELL 30-4-1906; DAVIDSON 1948 first entry for year, 28?-7-1956, 1958; DEWAR 27-10-1944; DITTERICH 21-3-1947, 31-12-1956: DOWLING 11-10-1927; DUNHAM 19-1-1931; DYSON 16?-3-1908, 27?-9-1927, 22-10-1936, Mid Dec. 1937, 28-7-1944; EDWARDS 28?-7-1956; EVANS 31-3-1947; FARRELL 9-11-1938; FIELD 11-11-1917; FOX (6+)-9-1939; GADDES 24-9-1934; GADSBY 10-11-1945; GAMBLE 16-7-1936; GEORGE 4-7-1906; GIBSON 23-9-1900, 11-10-1911, 23-1-1937, 26-6-1940, 22-8-1942, 23-2-1944, 4-4-1947, 27-5-1949; GRACE 23-1-1937; GRAY 12-11-1946; GRIFFITH 11-10-1927, 24-7-1936; HADDOW 4-8-1937; HALDAN 16-11-1876; HAZLEDINE 24-8-1935; HENDERSON 16-11-1876; 20-1-1875, mid Jan., 1905, 28-7-1944; HENNESSY Rev. 2-8-1935; HIGGENS 13-5-1944; HIGGINS 15-1-1929; HILLIS mid Sept., 1895, 15-1-1935; HIPWELL (RONNIE'S ASHES (11+)-11-1956); HITCHINER 1970, HOLDEN 21?-8-1934; HOLLAND 16-7-1936, 19-1-1948 ; HOLMES 11-11-1917; INGLEFINGER 23-5-1940; JAMES (24?)-1-1907, 8-11-1921, 5-5-1941; JAMIESON 29/30-6-1888, 19-9-1919; (21+)-3-1893; JINNETTE 3-5-1944; JOHNSON 23-11-1929; JORDAN 12-4-1956; JOYES 23-10-1905; KEMP 6-3-1956; LAWRENCE 24-5-1892 (Mornington Disaster); LINDSAY 29-7-1950; McILROY 15-1-1935, 8-5-1937, 4-4-1942; McKEOWN 26-10-1932, 10-12-1936, 16-9-1945, 17-1-1950; McLEAR 23-1-1937, 28-3-1950, 24-7-1950,(Salena (7+)-6-1966); 1970; MARTIN 18-2-1943; MATTHEWS 10-12-1943, 26-91945; MOAT (8+)-3-1904, 25-1-1908, 11-6-1939, 6-7-1941; MORLET end Jan 1890; MYRING 12-4-1956; NASH May/June 1908,husband Frederick on 17-9-1940 (not 1910), daughter Frances Elizabeth on 28?-7-1956; NICHOLS 3-7-1944; O'MALLEY 26-4-1949; PATTERSON 4-6-1943,(31-3-1947?); PAYNE 3-3-1950; PEATEY 24-10-1950, 22-8-1952, 19-6-1881; PEEBLES 23-11-1929; PERCIVAL 21-8-1940; PICKING 3-3-1950; PROSSER 24-7-1936; PURDIE 11-10-1911; PURVES 7-11-1913; RENOUF 24-7-1936; ROBERTS mid Sept., 1895, 5-5-1941; ROSS 17-7-1915; RUDDUCK (17+)1-1905, 10-1-1935, (memorial only 1956); SAWYER 24-7-1936; SELF 25-8-1937; SHAW 6-9-1905, 24-3-1912, 26-10-1932, 16-9-1945; SHEEHAN 16-4-1956; SINCLAIR 23-8-1892;SINGLETON 22-10-1936, 28-7-1944; SMITH 20-5-1930; SPENCER 3-7-1935; STANLEY 11-10-1927; SYMONDS 27-7-1922; TOMLINS 2-7-1937; TOWNSEND 3-2-1936; TUCK 11-10-1927; TWISS 11-6-1948, 13-1-1951; TWYCROSS 14-12-1936, 26-11-1954; VINE 26-10-1932; WAPLES May/June 1908; WELLING 30-4-1906; WHEELER 30-7-1948; WHITAKER 3-11-1947, 11-2-1948; WHITE 8-11-1921, 4?-7-1930, 5-5-1941, 3-5-1955; WILSON 24-1-1919, Late Sept. 1945; WILSON (James, descendant of Sarah Wilson) 28-7-1954; WISE 3-3-1939, 26-9-1945; WOOD (mother of Cr.F.E.Wood 24-12-1947); WRIGHT Late March 1945; YOUNG 10-12-1943, 26-9-1945;
It's just as well that I decided to submit when I'd pasted the pre 1900 entries already in the journal and didn't wait until I had inserted new entries from my ITELLYA'S HISTORY STORAGE BOX Facebook page because this is the result of clicking submit.
The page you've requested is not here.
I've deleted the pre 1900 entries so I can let you know that I'm still trying to put my information on family tree circles.
The entries indexed above are in the original journal or in two posts whose links are below.
From my CHRONOLOGY OF BURIALS AT DROMANA (on ITELLYA'S HISTORY STORAGE BOX Facebook page due to difficulties submitting in the journal.)
24-10-1947. MISS CATHERINE COUNSEL.
COUNSEL.-Requiem Mass for the repose of the soul of the late Miss CATHERINE COUNSEL will be celebrated at the Church of the Immaculate Conception,corner Glenferrie and Burwood roads. Haw-thorn. TOMORROW (Friday) at 9 a.m.The Funeral will leave the church at the conclusion of Mass for the Dromana Cemetery, arriving there at 11.30 a.m.
COUNSEL. — On October 21. At 6 Wattle-road. Hawthorn, Catherine, only daughter of the late Frank and Anne Counsel,loved sister of France (deceased). Late of Dromana. Requiescat In pace. (Both, P.9, The Age, 23-10-1947.)
"In the 1860's, William Grace grew grapes for the manufacture of wine (on "Gracefield.) Several members of the Counsel family tended his vines, which, it was said, were ruined by phyllooxera.(P. 39, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
Joseph Lawrence Counsel and his wife, Mary Cecilia, were certainly residents of the area before 1878. (Source not quoted for a reason.) In 1879, (and probably till 1884*) Richard Councel was assessed on 250 acres which was certainly "Gracefield" and Charles B.Counsel on 454 acres and buildings, Kangerong. Charles had received the grant for crown allotment 21A, Kangerong of 121 acres 1 rood 27 perches on 27-6-1876. It was north of Mclroys Rd and east of Bowrings Rd with Melway 161 D10 indicating its northern portion. Charles was probably leasing land to the west later granted to Thomas Appleyard.
FROM MY GRACEFIELD JOURNAL.
Gracefield, crown allotment 5, section 3, of 249 acres 1 rood and 34 perches (249.4625 acres) was granted to William Grace.It was bounded by Boundary Rd, with 291 Boundary Rd indicating its south east corner, Arthurs Seat Rd and Caldwell Rd.
In 1872, Richard Counsel was assessed on 250 acres and a 5 roomed house. His assessment in the previous year had been on 121 acres, almost certainly crown allotment 21A, Kangerong of 121 acres 1 rood and 27 perches, granted to C.Counsel on 27-6-1876, and fronting the north side of McIlroys Rd (No. 146) and including Melway 161 D10.
In 1884 James McKeown was assessed on 215 acres,Balnarring (i.e. 73 A and B, later known as Glenbower,the name of McKeown's house, and Wildwood.) *In 1885, he was assessed on 250 acres, Kangerong (Gracefield) having sold his Balnarring land to the Sheehan family.
Charles B.Counsel was Richard's son and the sister of Catherine who died in 1839 (according to http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/…/…/2004-04/1081991509) after whom Frank's daughter was probably named. Had the Counsels come from Tasmania? Obviously.
Richard Counsel married Catherine Doyle in Hobart - 1834.*
The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954) Thursday 10 May 1883 p 1 Family Notices
... Montana " COUNSEL-MORRIS -April 9, 1883, at Hawthorn, Victoria, by the Rev. E. Nolan, S.J., Charles B. Counsel, Dromana, youngest son of Richard Counsel, Emerald Hill (late chief draughtsman Crown Lands), to Kate Louise, youngest daughter of the late Captain James Morris, of Hobart,
Their fifth child "John Francis Counsel 1847 - 1930 married Ann Counsel 1875*" was certainly the late Miss Catherine Counsel's father (see death notice.)
* From the same rootsweb thread.
At the age of about 48 Frank Counsel's chess war with Joseph William Hazledine (retired Rosebud teacher and now Dromana's Registrar) began, and continued for years on the chessboard and in the Mornington Standard.
Mr. Frank Counsel, of Dromana, who issued through these columns, a challenge to play any lady or gentleman in the Shire of Flinders and Kangerong, best three out of five games, for the "chess championship" of the
shire, had not to wait long for an accepted (sic, acceptance) of his challenge. Mr. J. W.Hazledine of the same town expressed his desire to meet Mr. Counsel, and the contest took place last week at Arthur's Seat Hotel, one game being played each evening. The result was that Mr.Hazledine succeeded in winning the first, fourth, and fifth games, whilst the other two were won by Mr.. Counsel.
'Mr. Hazledine was adjudged the winner by Mr. L. Murphy, who acted as referee.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 28-11-1895.)
By 1910, Frank was waging another war- against Mt Cooke's fervent support of Mr Irvine in the seat of Flinders in the pages of the Mornington Standard. Frank seems to have been very well educated and it shows in his many letters to the editor concerning politics.
Miss Catherine's namesake aunt was one of Richard Counsel's two daughters who became nuns (according to the rootsweb information.)
The habit was assumed by Miss Catherine Counsel and Miss Margaret Doogan, both also natives of Victoria. Miss Counsel is third daughter of Richard Counsel, Esq., late chief draughtsman in the Crown Lands Offices; she is cousin to L.Counsel, Esq., Collector of Inland Revenues for Ireland, and also to P.Sarsfield Counsel, Esq., B.A., barrister-at-law, Trinity College, Dublin. She takes in religion the name of Sister Mary of St. Ignatius,(P.14, Advocate, 28-8-1875.)
Sister Mary did die in 1939 as claimed on the rootsweb page.
Recent Death SISTER MARY OF ST. IGNATIUS
Advocate (Melbourne, Vic. : 1868 - 1954) Thursday 1 June 1939 p 34 Article
... Recent Death SISTER MARY OF ST. IGNATIUS The Good Shepherd Convent, Abbotsford, lost one of the ... oldest members of the Community on May 23, when Sister Mary of St. Ignatius Counsel was called to her .
Richard Counsel probably lived at Emerald Hill while working at the Crown Lands Department but his fondness for a drink led to his dismissal in 1878. The obituary of Charles Bede Counsel gives interesting information about Charles and his father.
MR. CHARLES BEDE COUNSEL
On Wednesday, June 21, the funeral took place at the Springvale Cemetery of Mr. Charles Bede Counsel, the last surviving son of the late Richard Counsel, who was brought from Ireland by the Government to survey the greater part of South Australia.
Born in Adelaide, Mr. Counsel came to Victoria at the age of five years and remained here up to the time of his death. Mr. Counsel was very successful as an auctioneer and estate agent, and, later, was a most popular representative of some of the leading firms of Melbourne, and was a member of the Commercial Travellers' Association for about forty years.
His popularity as a lecturer and elocutionist was very great. At the age of fifteen years he was chosen from all scholars of the public schools to recite the ode of welcome to the Duke of Edinburgh in the year 1867, as recorded in the "Argus" of that date. The late Mr. Counsel was educated at St. Patrick's College, East Melbourne, and his last public appearance was at the dinner tendered to Cardinal MacRory, when,being the oldest member of the college,he was called upon to present his Eminence with a souvenir of his visit to Victoria.
Owing to severe reverses in the land boom, the latter part of his life was spent in retirement. He is survived by his widow and grown-up family. His remains were borne from St. Joseph's Church, Malvern, by his son and grandsons at the end of the Requiem Mass, which was served by his youngest grandson, John Walsh. His sister, the late Sister Ignatius, who was 65 years in the Abbotsford Convent,predeceased him three weeks ago.
R.I.P. (P.26, Advocate, 6-7-1939.)
THE COUNSELS OF SOMERVILLE.
The Counsel mystery deepened when I found that a Richard Counsel had died at Somerville, an Edward Counsel of the same place was a composer and that the bones of a Miss Catherine Counsel had been stolen from Trafalgar cemetery.
I went back to the rootsweb post and confirmed that the Somerville Counsels were related to the Dromana family.
"Researching the descendants of Laurence Counsel & Mary Tierney married circa 1790 - Louth? - Ireland.
Children: Richard, Peter, Ann, Judith & Lawrence arrived Tasmania "Norval" 1832. Another son Loughlin arrived Victoria mid 1800's with I believe, 2 of his children plus some nieces/nephews."
Next I googled EDWARD COUNSEL, SOMERVILLE and the fragments fell into place.
The Sad Life (and Death) of Kitty Counsel | Gippsland| Odd Australian ...
"Miss Catherine Mary Counsel was a tiny, sweet natured and deeply religious woman who spent most of her life as a housekeeper for wealthy families in and around Melbourne. Known as Kitty by her friends, her life was inconspicuous, she is never mentioned in newspapers, difficult to find in electoral rolls and barely rates a mention in death notices. Her life may have not have been noteworthy but it was the bizarre happenings after her death that caused me to research this diminutive lady.
Little Kitty came from a well respected family.* Although of Irish stock her grandfather, Loughlin Counsel was a surveyor and civil engineer in Southampton. His father and siblings had emigrated to Australia in the early 1800s, settling mainly in Tasmania but Loughlin and his family but didn’t arrive until the mid 1850’s. Kitty’s cousin was Edward Albert Counsel who became a surveyor, civil engineer and administrator in the Apple Isle.
Kitty’s father, Edward Counsel, was difficult to track at first, but eventually I discovered that he was a writer and musician. In 1875 at the age of 42, he married a relation of his stepsister’s, a musician by the name of Mary Josephine Gannon at Ballarat. In 1880 they had their first child, Edward Loughlin who sadly died at 4 months old. In 1882 they were graced with their second and only child to reach maturity, Kitty.
MaximsToday, Edward is considered a philosophical genius and his book which he published in 1889 called, Maxims: Political, Philosophical and Moral is considered a masterpiece. Some of his famous quotes include: “We live as we die, and die as we live”, “Reason often overturns experience” and “Success is a hidden jewel, and is found but by a few.” With his wife Mary, he also wrote numerous musical scores, including The Melodies of Erin. Although brilliant, his work was never fully recognised during his lifetime and it seems that his daughter never received any royalties or payment during her lifetime.
Edward’s father (Kitty’s grandfather) was Loughlin Counsel who had extensive land holdings in the Somerville area of the Mornington Peninsula. Loughlin passed away in 1875 and left more than 1000 acres to his children and stepchildren. Edward was the beneficiary of 213 acres plus a large number of shares in The Colonial Bank of Australasia.
After Edward and Mary’s wedding, they moved to Somerville and it was there that little Kitty was born. When Kitty was 12 years old her mother died and Edward seemed to become unhinged, writing rambling letters to local councils and newspapers. Shortly afterwards he simply stopped writing altogether. Edward passed away in 1909 in Somerville and his death was barely noted in the newspapers. I can’t find a will for Edward so I have no idea what became of his land or property but by 1909 Kitty was working as a housekeeper in Surrey Hills.
From this moment on, Kitty’s life was one of predictability. She worked as a housekeeper in Surrey Hills until 1924. In 1931 she is on the electoral roll in Kew and her occupation is listed as household duties. In 1949 she was working for a family in the Hampton/ Brighton area. In 1954, she was housekeeping for a young parish priest by the name of Father Daly at Orbost in eastern Victoria. In 1955 when Father Daly was transferred to Trafalgar, Kitty went with him. In February of 1955, at the age of 73, she was admitted to the West Gippsland Hospital in Warragul having suffered a stroke. A few days later she died and was buried at the Trafalgar Cemetery.
It was after Kitty’s death that her story becomes rather strange. " etc.
One interesting point was that Frank and Ann Counsel, whose daughter's burial started this voyage of discovery, were wrongly recorded as Kitty's parents.
Hi ---. Can you tell me where Main's quarry was? was there one? Where was Main's Bridge?
"Kerr's Almanac for 1841 lists Moonee Ponds* occupiers. They were ......., Patrick Main who built Main's bridge (later known as Flemington bridge) over Moonee Ponds Creek, ...... (P. 4, Andrew Lemon's THE STOPOVER THAT STAYED.)
*Moonee Ponds in early days meant anywhere near the creek but two historians have not understood this. In the same book, Lemon includes a lengthy passage about John Cochrane's Glenroy Farm (which was never in the City of Essendon area). In THE GOLD THE BLUE, a history of the Lowther Hall school, A.D.Pyke assumed that Peter McCracken's Stewarton was in the Moonee Ponds area but it was section 5, parish of Tullamarine, later renamed as Gladstone Park.
14-12-1849. Mains Bridge (Flemington) washed away. (Sam Merrifield notes.)
(From Bob Chalmers' THE ANNALS OF ESSENDON VOLUME 1, which Bob gave me in response to the donation of my EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA.)
The following comes from my EARLY LANDOWNERS. Section 12 Doutta Galla was bounded by Buckley Street west, then known as Braybrook road because it led to Solomon's Ford, from the Hoffmans Rd corner to the Rachelle Rd corner and a northern boundary indicated by an eastern extension of Clarks Rd, East Keilor including Farrell St in Melway 15 K11.
"SECTION 12 (East Keilor west of Rachelle Rd, Niddrie south of Farrell St.)
SECTION 12, MAIN’S ESTATE.
Bounded by Rachelle Rd., Buckley St., Hoffmans Rd. and the latitude of the north side of Farrell St., this was granted to James Patrick Main in 1846. He was probably Patrick who built the first bridge over the Moonee Ponds Creek at Flemington, still known as Main’s bridge after it had been swept away by floodwaters and rebuilt.
James P.Main, “ builder and settler, Moonee Ponds” in 1841 and 1847, may have been living on Main’s Estate. At the latter date, Thomas Anderson, dairyman, was on “Main’s Estate, Moonee Ponds”. I wonder if Thomas was related to James Anderson (a later occupant of Main’s Estate.)
SECTION 12 TITLE INFORMATION.
A COPY OF THE GRANT FOR SECTION 12 WAS FOUND IN SKETCH OF TITLE 15377, CONCERNING C.B. FISHER’S APPLICATION FOR TITLE OF McPHAIL’S “ROSE HILL”. IT STARTS:
PORT PHILLIP DISTRICT
L A N D P U R C H A S E
GRANTEE James Patrick Main VICTORIA, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland,Defender of the Faith and so forth:
TO ALL to whom these presents shall come,
WHEREAS in conformity with the laws now in force for the sale of Crown Lands in our Territory of New South Wales, and our Royal Instructions under Our Signet and Sign Manual issued in pursuance thereof JAMES PATRICK MAIN of Melbourne has become the purchaser of the Land hereinafter described for the Sum of Eight hundred and thirty two pounds Sterling….
DATE 30 October 1846
The 832 pounds did not include the yearly quit rent of one peppercorn (if demanded) and Her Majesty reserved such parts and so much of the said land as may hereafter be required for making Public Ways, Canals, or Railroads… AND ALSO All Sand, Clay, Stone, Gravel and Indigenous Timber….
....... In an anti- clockwise direction from the north east corner, we can then account for most of Main’s Estate:
i.e. Springbank (J.Wilson), Blair’s purchase, Rosehill Rd, and Rose Hill east of the creek, then heading north, Sinclair’s Farm, Rosehill Rd, lot 6 (1848 Laverty, McPhail, 1868 Hoffman) and lot 8 (1848 Roberts, 1865 Beale). The only area yet to be detailed is that occupied by the Niddrie Quarry.
LOT 10, COX’S FARM.
On 12-11-1850, Thomas Cox bought lot 10 from the Bears for 96 pounds. Consisting of 50 acres 1 rood 22 perches, this land started about 40 metres north of Noga Ave and included the southern 1/3 of the quarry site (K 876). It is likely that this was the 50 acre farm accessed from North Pole Rd, which James Anderson was leasing in 1900-1 and had occupied before moving onto Springbank, but it is also possible that Anderson’s “North Pole Road” farm was lot 8.
Other memorials concerning this land are:
1st series index- none.
307 359. 29-1-1883. Lease to John Beale for 10 years at a rent of 25 pounds p.a.
350 207. 8-5-1888. Contract and conditions of sale to speculator, G.W.Taylor, who also contracted to buy 18 C and D at about this time. (See the reasons why and the outcome in the section 18 entry.) Taylor agreed to pay L5542/12/6, which would have been equivalent to nearly 222 years rent under the terms of John Beale’s lease. C.B.Fisher’s purchase price of 3000 pounds for the 112 5/8 acre Rose Hill in January 1882 showed that the land boom was starting but Taylor showed, by paying almost twice as much for less than half as much land, that the Boom was flying along in top gear! Obviously Taylor forfeited part payments and the land, as he did with so many other farms.
385 168. Mortgage of the share and interest of Elizabeth Julia Whelan in 50 acres, Doutta Galla to John Butler Besley and Henry Besley of Bruthen for L 154/16/8. Elizabeth was the daughter of Thomas Cox and had inherited the land in the will of Thomas Cock (known as Cox), of which Ellen and William James Cock (known as Cox) were the exectrix and executor.
This memorial is the only entry in the E.J.Whelan index and no memorial concerning lot 10 is in the J.B. and H.Besley index so it is impossible to tell whether lot 10 was regained or forfeited.
LOT 12? COLLIER’S FARM.
James Collier bought the remaining 45* acres 2 roods 3 perches from the Bears on 14-2-1849 for 87 pounds cash. (*Called 55 acres in the Bear index but the memorial, which must have been written with poor quality ink, does say forty five.) I’d be willing to bet my last dollar that this was lot 12. It was north of Cox’s land and covered the rest of the quarry site (to a latitude indicated by the northern boundary of the Peter Kirchner Reserve east of the creek). Collier’s index reveals that he also had land on 6C (bisected by Puckle St/Holmes Rd). Another memorial concerns 39 acres in Doutta Galla (perhaps the land on 6C). Other memorials are:
K 750. 14-10-1850. Equitable Mortgage of 45 acres 2 roods 3 perches commencing 67 chains from the s/w corner of section 12 and extending 1406 links to the northern boundary of section 12. Charles Payne paid 35 pounds to James Collier.
236 954. 27-8-1860. Equitable Mortgage of the same land to secure to Margaret Harriss the repayment of 160 pounds she had lent to James Collier. I have been unable to determine whether Collier was able to repay the money or forfeited the land. However, this mortgage has helped to locate a farm mentioned by Angela Evans in “Keilor Pioneers: Dead Men Do Tell Tales”. Lawrence Kelly seems to have settled in Keilor by 1861. (Keilor’s ratebook of 1868 shows that he was leasing 18C of 163 acres from J.P.Bear.) By 1875, according to the above book, he was also renting 48 acres at Spring Gully from Margaret Harris. This would seem to indicate that Collier did lose his block if Margaret Harris still had ownership 15 years later.
The acreage of Collier’s Farm does seem to have been 45 83/160 acres. It is likely that Patrick Joseph Corcoran was leasing it in 1900-1 (part lot 0 section 12, 46 acres). Collier’s Farm was described as 46 acres when the late Alexander Smith’s land west of Spring Gully was advertised for sale on 13-3-1916.
N.B. The entry for Collier’s Farm in “Sam Merrifield’s House Names Index” edited by Lenore Frost, is wrong. The farm described is actually Smith’s Norwood. (See section 9.)
376 185. James Collier’s will of 26-1-1866 left all his (unspecified) estate to his daughter Mary, subject to an annual payment to James Collier’s wife Margaret. James died on 15-12-1868. These details were recorded much later on 13-8-1892 (376 185) and Mary was Mrs Amiss. The arrangements resulted from a marriage settlement between Mary and John Haines Amiss (soon to marry Mary) and the executors, James Jenning and John Cunningham, on 28-7-1879."
As J.P.Main was a resident NEAR the Moonee Ponds Creek in 1841, he may have had a depasturing licence south of the Foster brothers' Leslie Park" (Tullamarine/Keilor Park area) for which they obtained the lease in 1840 according to Sam Merrrifield's Annals. In this case, Mains quarry might have been the forerunner of the Niddrie Quarry on Main's Estate or on land a chain north east from Collier's Farm, i.e.
"ALLOTMENT C OF SECTION 18.
Bounded by Milleara Rd., Clarks Rd. and Spring St. and consisting of 162 ¾ acres, 18C was granted to D.T.Kilburn. He had also received the grant for lot 13 of section 4. Lawrence Kelly was leasing this property by 1868 and by 1875 was also leasing Collier’s Farm (at the n/w corner of section 12), which adjoined the s/e corner of 18C.
The Geological Survey map of 1860 shows a quarry used for road metal on 18C near Keilor Rd. This quarry and the ones near the s/w corner of the Essendon Aerodrome site may have been operating since, or before 1842, when Denis Larry was listed in the directory as a quarryman of Doutta Galla. The one on Kelly’s farm may, however, have been opened by Samuel Charles Brees*, who stated, on 20-1-1853, “Quarries are likewise opened at several parts of the line for the bottoming and levelling of the road.”
(*Brees was in charge of the construction of Mt Alexander Rd to the diggings and built the first substantial bridge at Keilor in 1854. A street in East Keilor was named after him by Garnet Price.)"
Unfortunately the two references from the 1840's give no indication of where the quarry might have been. Alexander Kennedy, in the second article, who not long afterwards built the Inverness Hotel at Melway 177 H11, could have been returning to Melbourne from his station near Guildford via Keilor, given that there was no great road to the diggings through Tullamarine in early 1847. I have referred previously to the vagueness of Moonee Ponds as a description of location in early days.
"SERIOUS ACCIDENT.—On Wednesday evening, as Mr. Alexander Kennedy, a settler
upon the Loddon, was proceeding with his son,servants, and drays into town, he found it necessary to encamp in the vicinity of the Moonee Ponds. This was about sundown, and Mr.Kennedy having business in town of a pressing
nature, departed on horseback, leaving his son in charge of the encampment. (He wasn't in Melbourne when his son arrived next day.)
However, about 11 o'clock yesterday morning,as Mr. Hogbin, brother-in-law of Mr. Evans, of the Duke of Kent, Lonsdale-street, was passing Maine's Quarries, on his way to town, he saw a party lying in the bush upon his back,...."
Port Philip Gazette and Settler's Journal (Vic. : 1845 - 1850) Saturday 16 May 1846 p 2 Article
... that the prisoner and another man were dodging him, and on passing Main's quarry, on his road home, be ...
The Melbourne Argus (Vic. : 1846 - 1848) Friday 22 January 1847 p 2 Article
... Kent, Lonsdale-street, was passing Maine's Quarries, on his way to town, he saw a party lying in the ... which he was riding stumbled, in the vicinity of Maine's Quarries, and the Rev. gentleman was thrown ... 4332 words
As there were no results for Main's quarry in the 1850's and the results in the 1860's weren't relevant, I tried quarry keilor and found:
WANTED, strong HORSES with drays to cart stone. Apply at Dick's Quarry, Keilor road. John Finlay.(P.8, Argus, 25-2-1860.)
Early quarries were almost always on the banks of creeks where there was plenty of freestone, so Dick's quarry was probably near Spring Creek which gives the name to Spring St, the northern end of the government road, followed largely by Rachelle Rd,which separated John Pascoe Fawkner's 11B Doutta Galla from Mains Estate. It is possible that 17CD which separated Mains Estate from Keilor Rd contained another quarry utilised by Samuel Brees in 1854. JOHN DICK was much involved with these two crown allotments.
Back to my EARLY LANDOWNERS. Had Main's quarry become Dick's quarry?
"17 C and D.
W.Nicholson was granted lots D and C, a total of 188 ¾ acres. A grocer who became premier, he was obviously a speculator. He received the grants for Ardmillan/Trinifour, Fairview and Springfield, all handily located on the route to Mount Alexander, which in a bit over a year would carry throngs of diggers. Land Plan 10509 shows that the western boundary of this land was about 140 feet west of Spring St and L.P. 10508 shows that the southern boundary was about 144 feet south of Grandview Rd.
The land was owned in 1868 by Joseph Nicholson, who had 195 acres; the extra 6 or 7 acres possibly being on lot B of section 11, south of Clarks Rd. Joseph does not seem to have been related to William Nicholson and did not inherit the property; he purchased the “Fairview Farm of 200 acres” in 1863. Joseph died in about 1879 but his widow, Sarah, aged over 60,was still using the farm for grazing purposes in 1888.
17C and 17D TITLE INFORMATION.
On 15-3-1854, W.Nicholson sold his grant to John Dick for 10000 pounds (Y 217). On the next day, Dick mortgaged 17 C and D to John Nicholson for 5000 pounds (9 140).
Confusingly, three transactions, concerning 17 C and D, were memorialised between John Dick and John Nicholson on 23-5-1859. They were:
79 402. Reconveyance of 17 C and D to John Dick.
79 404. John Dick mortgages 17 C and D for 3000 pounds.
134 296. Reconveyance by Endorsement to John Dick.
On 22-7-1861, John Dick conveyed an Equity of Redemption of 17 C and D to William Nicholson for 100 pounds (108 666). The index for John Dick has no further mention of 17 C and D. Neither is the land further mentioned in William Nicholson’s index. His will of 20-12-1864 (158 687) and the following memorial, dated 24-3-1866, mention a city hotel and county of Evelyn land but not the 188 ¾ acres of 17 C and D. When Dick bought 17 C and D, he was described as a farmer of The Merri Creek.
Sketch of Title 25560, resulting from Sarah Nicholson’s application for title in 1889, shows that William Nicholson regained ownership on 22-7-1861 (registered on 23-7-1861) and that on 29-10-1863, he sold 17 C and D to Joseph Nicholson for 1500 pounds. Joseph Nicholson died intestate on 24-7-1878.
Joseph Nicholson's extra 6 or 7 acres in 1868 may have been Dick's quarry and part of Collier's Farm.Was it earlier called MAIN'S QUARRY?
IN ADDITION TO MY PREVIOUS REPLY.
It seems that James Patrick Main (1802-1876) had been transported to Van Dieman's Land for life. Family researchers have not yet found records of his conditional pardon. His wife's name is possibly wrongly given as Isabella in one source; it appears to have been Mary.Her name might have been Mary Isabella. (I've forgotten her maiden surname.)Isabella was one of their daughters. It seems most of their children were born in Tassie, the last born in Melbourne in 1840 which indicates that the convict was indeed our James Patrick Main. In most convict records he is named as Patrick Main and he may have been still using this name (as recorded by Andrew Lemon) when he built Main's bridge at Flemington in 1839.
I speculated that Main might have had a depasturing licence covering a bigger area, including section 12 Doutta Galla, and his quarry might have been on the parts of sections 18 or 17 adjoining Main's Estate.
The following strongly suggests that section 12 Doutta Galla was the pre-emptive right of Main's Station for which the lease was cancelled in about 1847. Main's quarry must have been well-known by 1843 and was probably established by the time he built the bridge at Flemington. He built (or supplied the material for-forget which)the original Princes Bridge, probably using the stone from his Estate/station. All I have to establish now is five miles from Melbourne.
TO STAND THIS SEASON,
AT Mr Main's station, Stone Quarries, the Entire Horse, SAMPSON,
Five years old, sired by the Van Diemen's Land Company, from the imported horse, Duncan Gray,out of a Suffolk mare, is a dark chestnut horse of great power and fine action, stands sixteen hands high, rising six years old, has an excellent temper, and is well known as one of the best draught horses
in this part of the colony.
Sampson may be seen at the Horse Bazaar regularly on each Monday and Friday, where any information relative to him can be obtained.
Good Paddocks, within five miles of Melbourne,and every care taken, but without responsibility, and an allowance of one mare in five to bona fide owners. Terms — etc. (P.4, Melbourne Times, 8-8-1843.)
To save a lot of time and measurement I looked at Melway key map 5. The 10 km (6.21371 miles)radius from Melbourne passes through the midpoint of the Buckley St frontage of Main's Estate. Therefore the south east corner of the estate (Buckley St-Hoffmans Rd corner) would have been one sixth of 5km less, about 5.4 miles from Melbourne. There is no way that the parts of sections 17 and 18 south of Keilor Rd could be described as being five miles from Melbourne so Main's quarry must have been on MAIN'S ESTATE, the nearest part of which was 5.4 miles from Melbourne as the crow flies.Collier's Farm may indeed have been the site on which it was established. In 1843, Main's homestead was probably near the south east corner* of the estate and it might have later become Dugald McPhail's Rose Hill homestead. (*Nobody in their right mind would build a homestead near a quarry.)
I referred in my last message to Spring St (the northern end of the government road between c/a 11b and Mains Estate getting its name from the nearby creek. It is officially named Steeles Creek but one of its tributaries was Spring Creek in Tullamarine which gave the name to the Fosters' "Springs" and several farms to the south such as Spring Park, Springfield, James Wilson's Spring Farm on Main's Estate and James Robertson's Spring Hill (later renamed Aberfeldie after his mansion.) The areas near the creek in Tullamarine (e.g. David O'Niall's Lady of the Lake Hotel) and Mains Estate were both called Springs or The Springs circa 1850 but this caused confusion so the latter area was then referred to as Springfield. South of Buckley St, the creek was/is referred to as Rose Creek, hence the name of Dugald McPhail's "Rosehill" farm and the name of the eastern continuation of Dinah Pde.
The creek bisects Main's Estate and as stated earlier, most early quarrying was done on the banks of creeks. (I really should have written streams. George Spottiswoode, after whom Spotswood is named, took stone quarried near the Saltwater River along that river to Melbourne. I wouldn't mind betting that John Dick had earlier been quarrying on the Merri (Rocky) Creek before he established or took over the quarry on (near) Keilor road.)
GEORGE ROBERT DAWS, A PIONEER OF DROMANA, VIC., AUST.
One of the pay to view scavengers let slip that G.R. died in 1899 so I was able to find his death notice.
DAWS.— On the 7th April, at Spencer-crescent,Camberwell. George Robert, dearly beloved husband of Elizabeth Daws. late of Kingston and Dromana, aged 71 years and 11 months. (P.5, The Age, 8-4-1899.)
DAWS. - On the 30th July, at her son's residence, George road, East Doncaster, Elizabeth, relict of the late G. R. Daws, loved mother of R. H.,Mrs. Stevens (Point Lonsdale), E., H.A**. , A.C*.(Privately interred.) (P.13, Argus, 1-8-1925.)
DAWS.—On the 30th July, at her son's residence, East Doncaster, Elizabeth, relict of the late G. R. Daws, dear grandma of F. W.*** (Brisbane),Ruby, and Harald Stevens. Passed peacefully away.
(P.11, Argus, 8-8-1925.
*Daws George Robert Daws married Elizabeth Smith Daws and they gave birth to Albert Charles Daws.(Daws George Robert Daws - Melbourne East - Ancient Faces www.ancientfaces.com › Daws Family › Daws Daws)
**George Robert Daws - Kingston - AncientFaces.com
www.ancientfaces.com › Daws Family › George Daws
This is a bio of George Robert Daws with George's genealogy and photos. ... George Robert Daws married Elizabeth Smith and they gave birth to Harry Arthur ...
** F.W. Daws was probably a son of Frank, who was obviously born at Kingston some time between 1867 and 1874.
Frank Daws-King, Victoria, Australia; date of birth-Unknown
Parents-George Robert Daws Smith Elizabeth Daws
(Frank Daws Birth Records
As I have accidentally lost my findings, it may be best to present this journal as a chronology.
When George Robert Daws moved to Kingston in 1867, he appears to have followed a relative to that place. William Allison who became a coach driver and then a Dromana blacksmith, and married widow, Catherine Wainwright, publican of the Arthurs Seat Hotel, in about 1887, may have been a descendant of Daws' business partner.
Allison & Daws District Road Board Kingston 22-Jun-60 3
(Creswick & Clunes Advertiser 1860 - Freepages - Ancestry.com
There is no known connection between this George Robert Dawes and the one mentioned in 1867 unless there was a Deep Creek at Bullarook*. The digitisation has not been corrected in order to illustrate why this result was not found with a George Robert or G.R.Daws search but a George Daws search.
A publican's license, for a house at Subaatopol Hiil, Bullarook, was granted to George Ilobert Dawes, (P.1, The Ballarat Star, 24-10-1866.)
*POSTSCRIPT. There is a Deep Creek Road at Werona and a map search revealed that the Kingston-Werona road ran parallel to an unnamed creek which may have been Deep Creek. However there is no need to prove that the above hotel was the Deep Creek hotel because the Mr Boyd (owner of the hotel) who opposed the transfer of the licence in 1867 was probably W.Boyd of Bullarook and the Boyd family presence at Bullarook continued with M.Boyd of Bullarook gaining a soldier settlement farm in 1919. (BOYD, BULLAROOK search on trove.)
Most mentions of W.Boyd were in connection with the agricultural show.
"The Smeaton, Spring Hill and Bullarook agricultural society (dating from 1859) ran one of Victoria's most successful annual shows."
Why would George Robert Daws want to move to Kingston about seven months later?
Firstly "It is on the main road between Ballarat and Castlemaine" not on the south end of Black Swamp** Road which leads only to Bullarook. Secondly Kingston was probably the food bowl for the diggings near Ballarat. Thirdly, fortunes fluctuated on the diggings; when all the alluvial gold had been found, many diggers moved on to a new strike and even after mechanised mining (such as the William Tell at Bullarook) started, success was not immediate, and hampered by flooding etc. The only secure income was derived by carters (who certainly earned their money)and those who satisfied the diggers' hunger and thirst.
"Kingston is a rural township 7 km north-east of Creswick and 100 km north-west of Melbourne.
Kingston was beyond the alluvial gold mining in the Creswick district during the 1850s-60s, and just to the east of the deep lead mining which started with the Spring Hill lead in the 1870s. It was like Smeaton, providing agricultural land for cereals and grazing. A flourmill was built in Kingston in the early 1860s. A school was opened in the mechanics' institute at about the same time. (In nearby Spring Hill an Anglican school was opened in 1857.) Kingston was also the administrative centre of Creswick Shire until about 1948, 14 years after Creswick borough had been united with the shire.
Kingston was fortunately situated, with good agricultural land which suffered little disturbance from mining except to its west. The railway line from Creswick to Daylesford, via Kingston, opened in 1887 and ran until 1976." (Quotes from:
Kingston Township | Victorian Places
**Incidentally the name of Bullarook is almost certainly an aboriginal description of a swamp near a hill. As pointed out above, Bullarook is at the end of Black Swamp Rd. Tootgarook, named because of a swamp, means the growling of frogs and Bulla, according to I.W.Symonds in his "Bulla Bulla", means hill.
But the following shows that the Bullarook publican was definitely the Dromana pioneer unless the Advertiser's journalist was only guessing that the proud father was the former Bullarook publican.
DAWS Mrs George Birth of Son 12-Apr-67 On the 8th instatn, at her residence, Kingston, the wife of George Daws, of a son, both doing well.
Creswick & Clunes newspaperBirth Death and Marriage extractions ...
The journalist was right! When 9 month old Emma died at Kingston she was buried at the New Creswick Cemetery. There was a definite Smith presence at Bullarook so George Robert Daws may have become acquainted with Elizabeth there. Emma was not necessarily their daughter. (See 1860.)
Daws Emma 9 mths residence-Kingston
(New Cemetery - Creswick Cemetery
Bullarook is not on the main road to Ballarat (or anywhere) so why would there be a hotel there in 1866?
Bullarook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bullarook is a locality in the Central Highlands in Victoria, near Ballarat. Bullarook was home to the William Tell Quartz Mining Co., a gold mining company which ...
The application of George Robert Dawes, for a transfer of the publican's license from the Deep Creek hotel to the Beehive hotel, Kingston, .was opposed by Mr Burton on behalf of Mr Boyd, the owner of the house at Deep Creek, and postponed till Friday next, (P.4, The Ballarat Star, 15-5-1867.)
A removal of licence from Deep Creek to the Beehive hotel, Kingston, was granted to George Robert Daws. (P.4, The Ballarat Star, 18-5-1867.)
Deep Creek would seem to have been near Bullarook. I originally thought that Kingston was in the area near the current bayside City of Kingston but it was near Ballarat.
"Kingston is a small town in rural Shire of Hepburn in Victoria, Australia. Kingston is located about 15 km from Creswick, just off the Midland Highway and is about 20 km from Daylesford. Kingston's post code is 3364.
Kingston was once a thriving gold mining town during the Victorian Gold Rush and became the administrative centre of the Creswick Shire. Kingston Post Office opened on 11 October 1858. "(Wikipedia.)
In the last Finders Road District assessment of 13-6-1874, G.R.Daws was rated on a two roomed house on 322 acres in the parish of Balnarring that he was leasing from the Crown. Because ratepayers were listed in geographical order, it is almost certain that George was leasing crown allotments 90 and 91 Balnarring, fronting Shoreham Rd south of Oceanview Avenue, consisting of 322 acres 0 roods 19 perches, and granted to J.&J. Bayne on 4-7-1879.
1875. The Flinders and Kangerong Road Districts had merged to form the Flinders and Kangerong Shire. In its first assessment of 2-10-1875, George was rated on the same property although it was wrongly called 323 acres.
1876.George was joined by Edward Daws who may have been a brother. George was now rated on 34 acres and a building with a high net annual value of 35 pounds; this assessment being repeated in 1877. Edward was rated on 12 acres and 95 acres, Flinders and Kangerong and in 1877 just the 12 acres.
Alexander Haldan was operating Dromana's first post office by 1858. When he died, Walter Gibson gained appointment as postmaster and built a new post office (just west of Nelson Rudduck's Jetty Store which was on the west corner of Pier St.) SEE APPENDIX.RE POST OFFICE. Thus Mary Haldan's old post office became a mere store, as it remained during George Robert Daws' tenure. There was stern opposition to Gibson's site for the new post office and Mary unsuccessfully offered the old P.O. free to the government. She later moved to "Belmont" in Carlton, where her daughter was married. See my journal:
ALEXANDER HALDAN,PIONEER OF DROMANA,VIC., AUST. (& JAMES AND ...
IN the SUPREME COURT of the COLONY of VICTORIA :
Probate Jurisdiction.-In the Will of ALEXANDER HALDAN, late of Dromana, in the Colony of Victoria, Storekeeper, Deceased.-Notice is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof application will be made to the Supreme Court of the colony of Victoria, in Its Probate Jurisdiction, that PROBATE of the LAST WILL and TESTAMENT of the said Alexander Haldan, deceased, may be granted to Margaret Balmanno Haldan, of Dromana aforesaid, the widow and sole executrix named in and appointed by the said
Dated this first day of December, 1876.
JOHN HOPKINS, 8 Market-buildings, ColIins
Street west, Melbourne, proctor for the executrix.
(P.3, Argus, 1-12-1876.)
TO SEASIDE VISITORS.-Mrs Haldan has pleasure in intimating the continuance of her BOARDING ESTABLISHMENT, Dromana-villa, Dromana,where every comfort and attention are offered to her patrons upon strictly moderate charges.(P.8, Argus, 18-12-1876.)
CHECK HOW LONG EDWARD STAYED.
Edward was assessed on 13 acres Kangerong (N.A V. 10 pounds) in 1877 and in 1878, no mention of George, nor Edward could be found. Typical! In 1879, both reappeared with Edward's 13 acres proving to be 12 acres Kangerong and one allotment west of McCulloch St in the township, the N.A.V. now being 14 pounds. In 1880, the township allotment was forgotten but in his last assessment, Edward's property still had the same value.
No assessment of Charles Barnett on his 36 acre triangular grant.
George's occupation was given as miner, as was Edward's. George was still rated on 34 acres, which I believe was still Charles Barnett's triangle west of today's Jetty Rd. It still, and till 1887, had a N.A.V. of 35 pounds.
Margaret B.Haldan, whose occupation was given as private lodging, was rated on one allotment and building, Dromana, the former post office, now Dromana Villa, which had a net annual value of 50 pounds.
(TRUSTEE, DAVEY'S GULLY)
I accidentally lost information when transferring the post I'd started on the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook page and DELETED!. Changing tacks every quarter of an hour, I'd fluked finding a trove article on a pay to view ancestry site that listed trustees whose appointments had been notified in the government gazette. At that time, I suspected that George was associated with Castlemaine and I think I was doing a GEORGE ROBERT DAWS, CASTLEMAINE google search. After "Castlemaine:" were listed some trustees who, no doubt, were appointed as trustees of some public property at Dromana. HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE SOURCE IS THERE; I JUST CAN'T FIND IT AGAIN.
The trustees were, from memory: Walter Gibbon (Gibson), Peter Pidoto, George Robert Daws, Robert Caldwell, Daniel Nicholson and Charles Barnett. The others were all respected members of the community and the fact that in about four years George had been placed on a similar pedestal says a lot about him.
Walter Gibson built a Presbyterian Manse at his own expense, Peter played a prominent part in Dromana's trade with Melbourne, Robert Caldwell played a prominent part in Dromana getting a pier and Caldwell Rd is named after him, Daniel Nicholson was one of Dromana's two pre 1861 schoolteachers and became the registrar, Charles Barnett* was the grantee of the triangular 36 acre block west of Jetty Rd that I believe was George's 34 acres.
(*See the second item in the appendix.)
George nearly didn't survive in order to enjoy the respect he had earned.
A serious accident happened on Friday night last to the Schnapper Point coach on a decline leading into Davis' (sic) Gully* beyond Frankston. The brake unfortunately broke, and at the bottom of the decline two of the passengers were thrown off, but escaped with a few bruises. The horses then .ran up the incline on the other side, and the driver, known as "Dick," was next thrown off, and received some fractures of the ribs.
The greatest sufferer was Mr. Dawes (sic), of Dromana, who was thrown down the side of the gully, receiving some very severe fractures of the ribs, which impede the action of the lungs. The horses were brought to a stand-still by Mr. John Everard, who had occupied a seat beside the driver, and managed to keep his place. (P.2, South Bourke and Mornington Journal, 22-8-1877.)
* The Davey pre-emptive right of the Davey Kannanuke Run was between Old Mornington Rd and Port Phillip Bay, extending from the said gully (bottom left corner of Melway 101 J8) to Boundary (now Canadian Bay) Road. As the present highway did not exist, the coach would travel to Dromana via Old Mornington Rd, Mt Eliza Way- Wooralla Rd, and the three chain road (Moorooduc Rd.)
I learn that Mr. Dawes, of Dromana, who was so seriously injured in the frightful coach accident that occurred near Frankston eight days ago, is still lying in a precarious condition, very little hopes being entertained of his recovering.(Bendigo Advertiser (Vic. : 1855 - 1918) Monday 27 August 1877 p 2 Article)
George and Edward were still called miners. George still had the 34 acres (net annual value 35 pounds) but now had one allotment and building, Dromana, with the incredibly high N.A.V. of 50 pounds. This was the former post office.
DROMANA -Comfort and Economy -Dromana Villa is now ready for visitors.
G R Daws, proprietor, (late Mrs Haldan) (P.8, Argus, 30-1-1879.)
The 34 acre block and the old post office were combined in one assessment (net annual value 85 pounds.)
George's details were unchanged except that he was now a yoeman. In 1882 and 1883 he was a carpenter.
DAWS George Robert was now a boarding house keeper. He was rated only on 30 acres with a net annual value of 65 pounds. How could the rate collector describe him as a boarding house keeper without thinking it necessary to include the house he was keeping in the property description?
This was George Robert Daws' last assessment.
The Daws family which occupied "Carnarvon" many decades after the death of George Robert Daws, was not descended from G.R.Daws. This family was descended from Charles Pearson Daws, who may have been one of G.R.'s brothers.
COPY COMMENTS UNDER THE FLEMING STORE PHOTO ON THE DROMANA TO PORTSEA FACEBOOK PAGE.
ME.The Flemings lived on the west corner of Foote St and discovered ink wells from Alexander Haldan's post office, established by 1858 and used by the Haldans as a guest house called Dromana Villa when Walter Gibson established the new granite P.O. just west of Rudduck's store in about 1876. The Flemings lived in "Carnarvon" (photo, P.54, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.) It has been extended but one of the stone walls remains under the carport, as the current owners kindly showed me.
Andrew Davis After Grahame and Rosemary Daws left (the store near the site of the Arthurs Sest Hotel-itellya) around 1976 the next owners were the McIntosh family and then it was Andy Griffith. After the milk bar Grahame and Rosemary lived up the road in Codrington St (at Albey Brasser the concreters old house). Mum and Dad moved from Codrington St to McCrae in 1995 and they're still there today. Rod Daws Sue Stone
ME. Rod Daws. How nice to find another descendant of one of our pioneers (whose surname has been written countless times as DAWES in ratebooks, newspapers and, thus, in Colin McLear's history.) If Andrew had not posted the comment and mentioned Rod, I would never have twigged. I promise to spell it correctly in future. George Robert DAWS retained the Haldans' name of Dromana Villa for the house. I wonder who called it Carnarvon, the Flemings? Did you ever hear of George's brush with death in 1877?
Deborah Hiskins R__ G___ The Dawes (pretty sure with an "e") had the store after the Fleming's were not from Dromana. M;y parents Margaret (jnr) and Mike Fleming had the shop for 2 years and my grandparents Margaret (snr)and Arthur owned Carnarvon. After the shop was sold we moved into Carnarvon. Dad dug up several clay ink wells and broken clay pipes in the garden here. The original Carnarvon was originally purchased by my great grandparents Howard and Gertie SALTER in the 1920's as well as the next house in the street. Howard named the house but not sure where the name came from.(Margaret Fleming Snr was their daughter)
Margaret Fleming Deb, actually I spelt Daws with an e, but now I remember it didn't! Also regarding Carnarvon, several of the granite walls are still standing in the house, even though it's been renovated. This granite came from Dromana quarry and when the old house was pulled down, Mike (Fleming), remembers all the roof slate being dumped down the well at the rear of the house!
Andrew Davis I can confirm its Daws with no "e" and we are not descendants of George Robert Daws. Dads side of the family dating back to 1874 descended from Charles Pearson Daws of Llanelly* in Central Vic.
(*Postscript. This name was associated with Robert Smith of Bullarook who was NOT the father of Elizabeth Smith, who became George Robert Daws' wife, but may have been related to her. I can't remember whether Llanelly was the name of Robert's farm or birthplace.)
ME. Andrew Davis. Charles Pearson Daws might have been a brother of George Robert Dawes. The father of C.P. Daws was named George and the given name Robert was bestowed on one of C.P.'s descendants. Bertie Charles, a son of George Robert and Elizabeth Daws, may have been named after Charles Pearson Daws.(Bertie Charles Daws Dromana, Victoria, Australia
Birth date -Unknown, Parents-George Robert Daws Smith Elizabeth Daws)
Unfortunately George Robert's siblings are not mentioned in his death notice.
(My comment included George's death notice, see start of journal, and the following genealogy.)
FROM:Giles Daniel, Charles Pearson Daws, Fernanda Dennis, John Dennis ...
Charles Pearson Daws was present at the Eureka Stockade Revolt, appears to have been aged 17 years 9 months. His presence is reported by at least 3 books about the event.
Jane Geary wed to Dec 1842 to Thomas Pollen in Lambeth which spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London, London and Surrey
Thomas Pollen came and was joined Jul 1857 via the Essex by Jane 34 with Jane 11 and Henry 7
Charles Pearson Dawes 07 Jan 1837 - 5 May 1919 aged 82, son of Mary Pearson and George Dawes born at Greasley, Nottingham, England, (detail from IGI submitted entry) wed 13 Dec 1863 #3328 to Jane Dorothy Pollen 1845 - 9 July 1928 aged 83, and lived at Inglewood, Tarnagulla
7 Children 1. George Pearson Daws 1864 - 11 Oct 1950 aged 84 - original birth record 1864 #15785
2. Jane Daws 1866 #8805
3. Mary Jane Daws 1867 #15518
4. Charles Henry Daws 1869 #16181
5. Thomas Pollen Daws 1874 #19654
6. Elizabeth Ann Daws 1877 #5655
1. George Pearson Daws 1864 #21484 - 1950 born and died in Inglewood, wed 1896 to Emily Theresa Keefe 1872 - 1856 children born in Tarnagulla
8 Children 1. Ada Etta Daws 1897 - 1951 wed 1929 to William Stanley Notman
2. Thomas Ashley Daws 1898 - 1972 wed 1924 to Thelma Minnie Taylor
3. Vera Jane Daws 1899 - 1983 wed 1918 to Stanley James Murrowood
4. Ivy May Daws 1901 - 1955 wed 1919 to Clifford Henry Pollard
5. Mary Evelyn Daws 1904 - 1975 wed 1927 to Walter Robert Arnfield
6. Florence Elizabeth Daws born 1906 #22630 wed 1932 to Lionel Percy Stevenson at Llanelly, Vic, Aust
7. George Henry Daws 1908 - 1969 was born in Parkville, Vic, Australia.
8. Linda Elsie Daws born 1910 #15173 wed 1929 to John Edgar Davies
7. George Henry Daws born 1908 at Tarnagulla (Reg No. 23128/1908 Births) and died at Parkville (Reg No. 23830/1969 Deaths). Married Florence Bloodworth in 1939 (Reg No. 9804/1939 Marriages)
From my HERITAGE WALK, DROMANA journal.
THE POST OFFICE.
As stated previously,the Township was west of McCulloch St (to Burrell Rd, which despite the virtual cliff was supposed to connect the Esplanade and the north-south section of Latrobe Pde.) East of McCulloch St were crown allotments 1-8 of section 1 Kangerong.
In A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, Colin McLear stated that the original post office was in a granite building named Carnarvon,situated on the corner of Foote St and Latrobe Pde.
"In the 19th century prospecting days about Dromana miners could sell their findings to Dawes who ran a store on the corner of Foote St. and Latrobe Parade in the first Carnarvon which stood there then. On the counter stood his gold scales in what was the first Dromana Post Office. (P.54 with photo.)
Despite the majority of permanent residents being tenants on the survey in the mid 1850's when the township site was decided, the centre of population was probably farther west with many timber getters working on Arthurs Seat. The zig-zagging Tower Rd, which was used as a boundary between the township's suburban allotments, may have been created by bullock drivers bringing timber to the coast by the shortest possible route. Codrington St, which divides township streets to the west running at right angles to the coast and those such as Verdon St, which don't, may have been a continuation of this track.
Another early track may have been between McLear Rd near the summit and Caldwell Rd, which formed the boundary between suburban allotments and William Grace's "Gracefield",granted in 1857. This track would have continued along McCulloch St,the eastern boundary of the township.
Despite the township being proclaimed in 1861, the suburban blocks of mostly 2 roods (half an acre) were being sold in about 1858. Richard Watkins, who is stated wrongly as establishing the Dromana Hotel in 1857 (actually 1862 not counting the slate roof) was in 1858 running Scurfield's hotel as well as selling Arthurs Seat timber (in competition with another firm.)
Proclamation of the township meant that the Crown would provide a school and a post office. Shortly afterwards, Robert Quinan and Daniel Nicholson were scrambling to have their private schools chosen as the Common School. Interestingly, many of those who signed the 9-3-1861 petition (P.132 A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA) were Survey residents. The private school near Wallaces Rd on the Survey had apparently closed after the death of the teacher's wife. With the school also west of McCulloch St, Survey children could pick up the mail on their way home from school, so the location of the post office was not a great problem.
On page 138, Colin McLear wrote:
From its original premises,the post office moved into another granite building of the same period,this time in the main shopping centre. These premises were owned by Walter Gibson and also incorporated brick from the Glenholme (sic) clay pits. In later years these offices were replaced by a used car yard.
I have been trying since I started this journal to find the second article about the removal/argument re the post office first seen years ago. It was found by accident when I was trying to find out whether Pattersons Lane had been renamed Wallaces Rd after a Wallace family. The first article was found when I unsuccessfully searched for a request from Water Gibson to the Flinders and Kangerong to have the township boundary altered to take in the area near the pier. (Perhaps that was in 1885 when Peter Pidoto's parents-in-law died? No!*)
The Postmaster-General was waited upon on Friday by Mrs.(Alex.)Haldan, accompanied by Mr. Fergusson, M.L.A., the object being to draw his attention to the inconvenience caused to the residents of Dromana by the removal of the post and telegraph office from that place to some distance outside Dromana. Mrs. Haldan represented that her husband had held the office of postmaster in Dromana for many years till the office was removed,and if it were now re-transferred to Dromana she was willing to supply a building for the purpose free of cost to the department. Mr. Cuthbert replied that if it was the wish of the residents generally that the office should be re-transferred,he would take the matter into consideration.
Mr.Gibson, the lessor of the post-office building, afterwards waited upon the Postmaster-General, and represented that he was one of the guarantors to the department in regard to the post-office at Dromana, and he desired that they might not be called upon to pay the deficiency of L.105 in the revenue. In support of his request he quoted several precedents, and Mr. Cuthbert promised to take the matter into consideration.Telegraph.
(South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 5 June 1878 p 2 Article)
A strenuous effort is being made by one section of the community to have the post and telegraphic office removed to a site remote from the general traffic. The advocates of this movement argue that the post and tele-
graph office should be in the township, which is certainly right in the abstract, but the township of Dromana is anomalously situated, the jetty and principal places of business being some distances beyond its boundary.
The jetty, however, is naturally the convergent point, from all the traffic of the district. The other section of the inhabitants, therefore, argue that the post office is in the right place, being in close proximity to the centre of trade and feel that the proposed removal, if carried out, would, be injurious to the interests of the district at large. The Postmaster General has been interviewed by both sides, and a petition has been got
up for presentation by the removalists. The result remains to be seen.
(South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 12 June 1878 p 3 Article)
*PROOF OF THE SAYING:"YOU MAKE YOUR OWN LUCK."
If I had not decided to write a journal about Alex Haldan and hadn't suspected that Cr. George M.Henderson was a relative of Alexander's wife, I would never have discovered the article about Walter Gibson,actually George McLear, wanting to extend the township boundary toward the pier. I knew all the right key words apart from the petitioner's name, and was sure that the article was from 1878 but there was not one result on trove.
A petition was presented by Councillor McLear; praying that the boundary of the present township of Dromana might be so extended as to include the jetty and other places of business. The petition was signed by a number of owners of land in the township, and also by nearly all the owners of land sought to be incorporated*. Notice of motion was given for the consideration of the matter at the next meeting of the Council.
(P.3, South Bourke and Mornington Journal, 3-7-1878.)
(*Land east of McCulloch St, in section 1, Kangerong, whose owners wanted incorporated or included in the township.)
CHARLES BARNETT. (See separate journal.)
Google KANGERONG, COUNTY OF MORNINGTON to access the Kangerong parish map and you will see that Charles Barnett was granted crown allotment 13 section 1, the triangular block bounded by today's freeway (Palmerston road), Jetty Rd and Boundary Rd that later became Dromana's Railway Estate.
One of the daughters of Charles Barnett and Elizabeth must have married Joseph or William Story, other Dromana pioneers, who were also associated with Flemington if I remember correctly, but I have no idea where I have written such information.
Charles Bennett Story who served in W.W.2, was born at Dromana in 1883, possibly on Charles Barnett's grant the year before Charles died.
STORY, CHARLES BARNETT DROMANA, VIC Honouring Veterans
From my information about a fellow pioneer, George Robert Daws.
I accidentally lost information when transferring the post I'd started on the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook page and DELETED!. Changing tacks every quarter of an hour, I'd fluked finding a trove article on a pay to view ancestry site that listed trustees whose appointments had been notified in the government gazette. At that time, I suspected that George was associated with Castlemaine and I think I was doing a GEORGE ROBERT DAWS, CASTLEMAINE google search. After "Castlemaine;" were listed some trustees who, no doubt, were appointed as trustees of some public property at Dromana. HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE SOURCE IS THERE; I JUST CAN'T FIND IT AGAIN.
The trustees were, from memory: Walter Gibbon (Gibson), Peter Pidoto, George Robert Daws, Robert Caldwell, Daniel Nicholson and Charles Barnett. The others were all respected members of the community and the fact that in about four years George had been placed on a similar pedestal says a lot about him.
Walter Gibson built a Presbyterian Manse at his own expense, Peter played a prominent part in Dromana's trade with Melbourne, Robert Caldwell played a prominent part in Dromana getting a pier and Caldwell Rd is named after him, Daniel Nicholson was one of Dromana's two pre 1861 schoolteachers and became the registrar, Charles Barnett* was the grantee of the triangular 36 acre block west of Jetty Rd that I believe was George's 34 acres.
(*See the second item in the appendix.)
The trustees for whatever public property in 1877 would have been decided at a public meeting and sent to the authorities for approval. I have a feeling that Richard Watkin may have nominated Charles Barnett.
WATKIN—BANNER.—On the 20th inst., at Mornington,by the Rev. Mr. Abrahams, Henry Watkin, only son of Richard Watkin, of the Dromana Hotel, to Sarah Anne Banner, the adopted daughter of Charles Barnett, Esq. Home papers please copy. (P.4, Argus, 24-6-1872.)
Henry Watkin died about eight years later, aged 32, and his widow married Thomas McLear. (P.72, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
BARNETT.—On the 23rd inst., at his residence, Dromana, Charles Barnett, of Tottenham, Middlesex, England, aged 72, after long and painful illness. Home papers please copy. (P.1, Argus, 28-4-1884.)
WATKIN— BARNETT.— On the 22nd March, by the Rev.W. I. Brown, Wesleyan Parsonage, North Melbourne, Richard Watkin to Elizabeth Barnett, relict of the late Charles Barnett, both of Dromana.(P.1, The Age, 25-3-1890.)
Of course I checked the ozgen list for Dromana Cemetery but there was no Barnett burial recorded. Luckily Janet had photographed his gravestone at Dromana. See:
Charles Barnett (-1884) Grave Site Cemetery: Dromana | BillionGraves
Charles Barnett BillionGraves Headstone Record
As I have been unable to submit journals and edits for a week (and many times in the past), I have started a new Facebook group with the above title so that this information can be viewed by family tree circles members until it successfully submits. The link is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1594310247565466/
THE ENTRY HEADINGS IN THE CHRONOLOGY POST ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE AS OF NOON, WEDNESDAY, 15-6-2016 ARE LISTED BELOW. THEY HAVE BEEN NOTED IN THE ALPHABETICAL INDEX BUT WILL NEED TO BE INSERTED IN THE CHRONOLOGY OF BURIALS AT DROMANA JOURNAL.
CHRONOLOGY OF BURIALS AT DROMANA WITH BIOGS.
16-11-1876. ALEXANDER HALDAN.
Late April, 1884. CHARLES BARNETT, DROMANA.
28-5-1892. ALFRED HERBERT LAWRENCE, AGED 19. Mornington Disaster.
(May/June 1908. MRS FRANCES ELIZABETH NASH, nee WAPLES.
Currently in progress.
(6+)-9-1939. MRS ELIZABETH FOX.
FOX� Elizabeth photo 6/9/1933 89
23-5-1940. TED INGLEFINGER, WICKETKEEPER FOR THE PREMIERS.
12-11-1946. KATHERINE SUSAN GRAY.
24-12-1947. MOTHER OF CR.FOREST EDMUND (JOE) WOOD.
12-6-1951. CHARLES ROBERT BURNHAM.
7-3-1953. JAMES GEORGE CHAPMAN.
28?-7-1956. MRS FRANCES ELIZABETH EDWARDS.
Daughter of Frederick and Elizabeth Nash and formerly Mrs William Davidson.
(See: (May/June 1908. MRS FRANCES ELIZABETH NASH, nee WAPLES.
23-8-1956. MRS MARY LOUISA BROWN.
(11+)-11-1956. RONALD JAMES HIPWELL AGED 4 YEARS 10 MONTHS. Ashes interred.
JUNE, 1996. MRS SELINA McLEAR.
Selina was the widow of George McLear (see burial entry, 28-3-1950.)
PARENTS AND SIBLINGS OF GODFREY GLARE WILSON, FATHER OF CR. THOMAS WILLIAM CHADWICK'S WIFE, PEARL. (MORN. PEN.,VIC., AUST.)
As Keryn McLear of the PIONEERS OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA Facebook group revealed after I submitted this journal, Godfrey Glare Wilson was not Pearl's biological father. (see below.)
descendants of convict James GLARE and pioneer woman Eliza ...
Feb 27, 2016 - Brief list of descendants of James GLARE and Eliza Sophia MILLS: John GLARE ..... Godfrey Glare WILSON (1875-1933). James Frederick ...
Isabella GLARE (1845-1909)
m. Henry John WILSON (1845-) in 1868
Emily Burdett WILSON (1869-1939)
m. Cornelius George CLARK (1862-) in 1890
Henry George CLARK (1891-)
James Gordon CLARK (1893-)
Elliott John CLARK (1896-1952)
Godfrey CLARK (1897-)
Albert Edward CLARK (1899-)
Thomas Wilson CLARK (1901-)
Isobel Mary CLARK (1904-)
Cornelius William CLARK (1906-)
Eleanor Jane WILSON (1870-?)
Henry William WILSON (1871-1939)
Godfrey Glare WILSON (1875-1933)
James Frederick WILSON (1879-1956)
Olive Isabella WILSON (1881-1909)
Keryn McLear: Janet ('Jessie') Cairns gave birth to Pearl in 1895, and there is no father named. Jessie married Augustus Engstrom (b Sweden) in 1900, and had a son, George Albert, in 1901. Augustus tragically drowned. In 1903, Jessie married Godfrey Glare Wilson (1875-1933) and had Rose Muriel (1906), Edith Jean Isabella (1911) and Doris Brown (1912).
Keryn also reveals that Pearl was Tom's second wife.
Selina Peters (b 1876, NZ to Richard Peters and Mary Ann Dutton) married Thomas William Chadwick when they were both about 23, in 1899, Victoria. They divorced in February 1917, when they were about 40, in Melbourne. Thomas went on to marry Pearl Cairns (b.1895, Dromana) in 1917, in Victoria when she was 22 and he was 41. They had eight children: Mavis Pearl, Thomas George, Emilie, Henry William, Leslie John, Elaine, Molly and Ruby. One of Leslie's sons married into the Griffith family, bringing in more McLear lines!