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by bluestonedreaming on 2012-02-04 22:02:25
just joined up family tree to tell ya thta i am enjoying your Tullamarine history notes very much! SInce moving to the corner of Melrose and Tadstan drive(Broombank I am so far gathering?) ten years ago , i felt a lot of history here that appearances did not indicate was so. Have looked sporadically for information on th e internet mainly, as being oft housebound, google has been the extent of "research". . So excited to be able to read your fascinating insights and wealth of knowledge, thankyou so much for sharing! You have inspired me to make the plan for the Public Records Office this year, although I may not need it as your findings are so thorough. Marvellous!
by bluestonedreaming on 2012-02-04 22:04:20
*make the plan for a visit to the PRO!
by itellya on 2012-02-05 00:58:03
Ben Kelly was one of the buyers in Ray Loft's subdivision of Broombank. He had a large block at the corner of Lancefield Rd (Melrose Drive) and Tadstan Drive.
Ben's eccentric ways are described by Leo Dineen in the following. Google "Ben Kelly, rowing" and you'll get an idea about how extraordinary this pioneer of the suburb of Tullamarine was.
THE SUBURB OF TULLAMARINE.
by me, 1998.
There were attempts to develop Tullamarine in the early 1890s and the mid 1920s. Speculator,G.W.Taylor, bought Gladstone and many farms along Bulla Rd.(Melrose Drive) because his politician mate, Tommy Bent, intended to build a branch railway line to Bulla, perhaps passing through Broadmeadows Township (Westmeadows). The depression of about 1892 put an end to the railway and Taylor lost his deposit and other payments to the farm owners who regained ownership.
Soon after moving to Tullamarine in the early 1920s, Tom Loft subdivided part of his farm, Dalkeith, with lots 1-16 being bounded by Dalkeith Ave., Broadmeadows Rd., Sharps Rd. and Eumarella St. Lots 17-32 were between Eumarella and Gordon Streets. As in 1890 the land boom was followed by a bust and the depression of the 1930s, followed by a shortage of building materials during and after the war meant that little new housing was seen in the area till the 1950s. It is unlikely, however, that Lofts Subdivision would have sold even without these impediments; people just didnt know where Tullamarine was!
Returned servicemen making up for lost time had caused a demand for housing in the 1920s and this situation was now repeated. Stanley Korman bought Gladstone, Palmers land and Gowanbrae, Denhams Land (Catherine Ave. and Trade Park Industrial Estate) and Strathconnan as well as Woodlands and other land to the north. His efforts to develop Gladstone Park were thwarted by the M.M.B.W.s inability to extend a water main to the estate. Thousands of small investors in Stanhill lost their life-savings but after a decade Korman sold Gladstone Park, which was in the name of a family trust, to Costains for an 8000% profit.
Joe Thomas of Carinya Park in Sharps Rd. was able to purchase Mansfields Triangle, Bill Parrs old Annandale farm at the west end of Sharps Rd. and land further west, but only the first of these became a housing estate. It was part of Carinya Park which started the first real burst of development in Tullamarine; Ray Loft had sold Broombank in the early 1950s to Ben Kelly and Walter Murphy but the people who settled here usually knew the area already. Established in March 1955, Caterpillar of Australia Pty. Ltd. purchased 110 acres and by November, the first steel had arrived for the 100 000 squ. ft. plant and before this was completed the construction of a second plant of the same size was authorised. The first grader was completed in January 1957 and by the time the factory was officially opened by the Governor, Sir Dallas Brooks, on 11-4-1960, the number of employees had risen from 55 to 650.
Another local landmark was commenced in about November 1955. This was the Village Drive-in, which occupied the site of Forum Dr., Paramount Ct. and Columbia Cl. houses. As no patrons were likely to travel to the unknown Tullamarine, it was called the Essendon drive-in to convey the impression that it was not far past the Essendon Aerodrome. Residents across Bulla or Lancefield Rd.(as it was later called) such as Alf Murray were not impressed by some patrons; not because they tested their suspensions inside the theatre but because they tried to beat the land-speed record as they took off on the gravelled exit.
No doubt many of the Triangular Estates first residents moved there because of the employment provided by Caterpillar. Many of them were migrants such as Ilko Romaniw who moved to the Triangle in 1949. Other migrants, such as Stella Collins in 1953, settled near Malvern Ave. on an estate sold by Bruce Small, manufacturer of the famed Malvern Star bicycles and later Mayor of the Gold Coast. The resulting increase in the number of children presented a twofold problem for Tom Dunne, the teacher at Tullamarine State School 2613 at the corner of Bulla Rd. and Conders Lane (the north corner of Melrose Dr. and Link Rd.) Many children could not be accommodated and many of the new enrolments could not speak a word of English.
One child in the overflow forced to attend Essendon North Primary School was Jan Hedger who now under the alias of Jan Hutchinson carries on her late fathers fine record of community service. However Jan was not always so virtuous!
Ceremonies lasting four days will give Caterpillar dealers, customers, officials of local,civic, trade and social organisations, employees family and friends, the opportunity to tour the manufacturing building and also see the display of equipment So said the newspaper. It is unlikely that Jan and her fellow educational exiles did much touring or inspecting but upon alighting from the bus they treated themselves to the sort of afternoon tea that dreams are made of, four days in a row!
By 1959, subdivisional plans had been drawn up for 20 000 homes, new schools near the west end of Catherine Ave and in Western Ave. and Gladstone Park, and a Shopping Centre near Phelan Crt. Crottys Broomfield and land further south to Spence St were included in this grand plan, which encompassed the area between Moonee Ponds Creek and the west end of Sharps Rd. Locals, who were worried about rumours of a gasometer being built, were staggered when surveyors told them that land was to be acquired for an airport.
This halted work on the Tullamarine hall whose foundations had just been poured on the Bulla Rd Recreation Reserve. It also spelt the end for farms such as Bayview, Sinleigh, The Elms, Ecclesfield, Gowrie Park, Glendewar, Seafield, Oakbank and Ristaro where hay-growing and dairying had been carried out for well over a century with some pig and poultry farming commencing in the 1920s. Perhaps it had been an omen when James Lanes Gowrie Park was used as a landing field even before Essendon Aerodrome opened; watching planes landing at Tullamarine, one is looking at the former Gowrie Park. A proposal to rename airport streets in 1989 was abandoned but my suggestion of Gowrie Park Dr., near the Liquor Locker, sneaked through somehow.
Walter Murphy led a committee of citizens opposing the Jetport with the backing of Korman and others but their suggestion that Avalon was a better site was not accepted. Walter was a great leader of the Tullamarine community who organised the relocation of the Tuulamarine and Broadmeadows Township war memorials and St Marys Church as well as heading the committee which had reached the foundations stage for the hall.
Stanley Korman was having trouble in getting a water supply but he was not on his own. Triangle residents and those near Malvern Ave. had to cart water from a standpipe which I believe was near the Carrick Dr. corner. Residents had lengthy waits before power could be connected as well. Other problems such as poor drainage and a lack of rubbish collections made our recent week of cold showers seem fairly insignificant. Sid Hedger was later to play a huge part in getting sewerage for residents at a reasonable cost.
Roads were a nightmare. The sealed middle section of Lancefield, Broadmeadows and Sharps Rds. was only wide enough for one car and drivers using the shoulders felt that they might roll over as the camber was so steep. It was not until the early 70s, when Cr. Leo Dineen persuaded the Commonwealth to give a substantial grant because Sharps Rd. provided access to the airport, that any of the main roads became more than goat tracks. In 1974, Cr. Gibb was riding his motor bike across the one-way bridge in Fosters Rd. on the way to a council meeting when a drunk driver sped onto the bridge, knocking him off the edge to fall several metres into the creek; bruised and soaked, he made it to the meeting but was carted off home to recover.
By 1957, Lofts Subdivision boasted six houses, occupied by the Lloyd brothers, H.J.Bond, Frank Place, K.M.Wilson, L.Greenaway (Broadmeadows Rd.), Joe Crotty (3 Eumarella St) and Alf Cock (2 Gordon St.). Percy Hurren, who owned Dalkeith, lived in the homestead on the north corner of Dalkeith Ave. By this time, Mrs. Watson who had run the post office attached to 318 Melrose Dr., had transferred to the General Store on the site of the present liquor store in the triangle. Later, the rest of Dalkeith was developed as the Broadwood Park Estate.
In the first couple of years in the 70s there was a huge sign on the Honda corner advertising Twentieth Century City. This was the old Crotty farm, Broomfield, which is now the Tullamarine Industrial Estate. A road directory of the time shows Moore Rd extended to Fosters Rd. with Erebus St. and Kingsford Smith Drive running between it and Sharps Rd. Keilor Council had been forced by planning protocol to grant permits for this area despite being aware of its unsuitability, because of lack of consultation between the Dept. of Civil Aviation and the M.M.B.W. (which was the only body with the authority to ban housing). Rezoned from rural to residential on September 1966, it was purchased by D.D.Schoenbergs Tullamarine Syndicate in October 1967 with the encouragement of the M.M.B.W. and the state government. However, after spending $630 000 for sewerage, water mains and other development by June 1968, the syndicate voluntarily refrained from selling house blocks, which they were legally entitled to do, because of a warning from D.C.A. in May 1968 to halt development.(Minutes of evidence to the Commonwealth Parliamentary Standing Committee on Public Works 1971 re proposed development of runways etc).
The Progress Association had ground to a halt in the early 1960 as families moved away, with their farms having been taken for the airport, or stalwarts, such as Alf Cock who had been an office bearer since its inception in 1924, just plain growing old. In the mid 1960s, the T.P.A. was given a new lease of life by triangle residents such as Leo Dineen, Ron Langtip and Sid Hedger.
The October 1965 Annual Meeting was attended by: Leo, Ron, Sid, H.Hutchinson, Ben Kelly, Ken Boots, Sid Wheller, K.Tyler, W.Walden, M.Kerschbaumer, David Axon, I.Romaniw, N.Royle, Ian McNab, D.L.Morgan, J.A.Paul, E.F.Bray, W.H.Ruszowski, C.McClusky, N.Potter, L.Heskes, Les McClusky, D. Garnar, P.&A.Murray.
Other early members, and the year of their first meeting, are:
1965. FREIBER, GOMORI, HORPINITCH, WARNE
1966. WENCZEL, LILLEY, WINNELL, SHEEHAN, LEES, TAYLOR, GUILLINE, HORMAN, WANNINGER, BECK, GETTOS, GARNAR, DENNIS, GALOS, MATUZEK, BOUCHER, LANDERYOU, KOKOJINKO, MARCHENKA, FROMKIEWICZ, PASSMORE, PAUL,
1967. DRESSLER, MURPHY, HUGHES, ERICSON, OSBORN, TEMPLETON
1968. GALACHO, CARTER
1969. MASON, WHELAN
1970. CATON, PRYSE, KENNEDY
1973. LARGE, OGIER, CHIVELL, McFARLANE, LOFTS
1974. HOWARD, CANNAVO, MILLER
1975. FARRUGIA, SCHWAB.
As can be seen, the greatest influx of members occurred in the mid-60s. At this time there were plans for three different halls in Tullamarine. The original committee consisted of members of the Heaps, Nash, Henderson, Morgan, Thorburn, Craig, Swartz, Eddy, Denham, Rhodes, Crotty, Thomas, Doyle and Cock families with Walter Murphy as Chairman. It had received Health Dept. approval and a Broadmeadows Shire permit in 1957 but as the foundations were being poured it was announced that a jetport was to be established in the area and that the recreation grounds were within the area required as Walter Murphy put it in a letter to Tullamarine Progress Association secretary, Leo Dineen, on 3-5- 1966.
Walter went on to say that when it became apparent in 1965 that the reserve would not be required, the committee again approached the council. In a previous reply to Leo on 20-7-65, Major Murphy, as he was commonly known,stated that the hall would cost 4000 pounds, that council assistance was likely and that a change of plans would further delay the work. The change of plans was probably a request for the hall to be built further south, as by this time the post office was on the triangle and the school on Dalkeith with the majority of Tullamarines population now living south of Greens Corner.
The letter of 3-5-66 mentions a T.P.A. request for the money raised to be used for building a hall ¾ mile away and the difficulty raised by the request because so many of the old people who donated money had died or moved away. An enclosed legal opinion from Messrs Podem, Blaski & Co. stated .. it would be illegal to utilise money raised for a hall on the Recreation Reserve for the purpose of erecting a Public Hall on another site, even on one only ¾ of a mile away.
On 28-6-66 the T.PA. set up a provisional hall committee comprised of Ken Boots, Len Garnar, Ben Kelly plus the secretary (Leo) and President (Sid Hedger?). It was realised that fund-raising would be difficult after many residents had contributed to two hall funds which have not been fruitful.
The second fund, raised to build a hall on the Carol Grove Reserve, had collapsed but proved to be the key to a solution. Leo and the President met Mrs Kelly (Ruth?) and the treasurer of the Triangle Committee, Mr Bray, on 28-2-1967 and suggested that their money be donated to Major Murphys committee to allow commencement of that hall; Mr Bray undertook to send a circular to residents to gauge their approval of this plan, which he clearly supported.
It was Len Garnars suggestion that residents be asked to support a 20c per week donation scheme and support it they did. The Tullamarine Community Hall in Spring St. was officially opened on Saturday, 15 August, 1970.
In 1971, these were some of the people keeping Tulla ticking:
PROGRESS ASS. - PRES.JOHN OSBORN, SEC.DAVE AXON
SCHOOL COMM. - PRES. KEITH RHODES, SEC. MRS. G.M.DAVIS
MOTHERS CLUB- PRES. MRS.J.ALLEN, SEC. MRS. DORIS RORKE.(who planted the garden around the school buildings.)
YOUTH CLUB- PRES. CR. CLIFF HARVEY, SEC. MR. I. ANDERSON
HALL COMMITTEE PRES. BRIAN LLOYD, SEC. MRS. RHONDA LILLY.
The position of secretary of the hall committee also involved being booking officer which is a great job if you enjoy talking to people- at all hours of the night. Bev Large took over this role for several years before moving to Romsey and was followed by Barbara Newland. The Hall Committee had representatives from all the groups which used it and it was because of this that Jan Hutchinson, a Brownie leader, became involved. She has served so long as booking officer that Im sure that even Caterpillar would now forgive her pigging-out indiscretion in 1960! Leo Caton was a wonderful worker in the early days of the hall, almost single- handedly transforming a mere shell into an attractive, well- equipped function centre.
JOHN PETERSON REMEMBERS (C.1989)
.Tullamarine has grown tremendously over the last twenty years Those of us who can remember that far back can also remember the open paddocks and the chatter of the Americans who were living in the area while the Airport was being built. (The Theresa St. area was developed to accommodate them. R. Gibb) The cows from the nearby Moonya dairy used to graze on the open paddocks which now are occupied by the houses in Micheline and Dawson Streets. It was not unusual to wake up in the morning with a cow peering in your window.
Many sporting teams were started by some of our energetic residents. One such club which came into being in the late 60s was the Tullamarine Little Athletics Club.. Some of those who played a major part in getting the Tulla club started were the Dineens, later to become the mayor and mayoress of Keilor, the Langtips, Petersens, Bennetts, and Bradleys. Later on there were the Masons Frys, Halls Aylmers, Allisons, Rentons, Gibbs and Kerschbaumers.
(John wrote much about the merit of every child in little aths. being rewarded and the long-lasting friendships which developed through the club as well as apologising to anyone hed left off his list of stalwarts.)
This popular community newsletter, published monthly by the Progress Association and the Youth Club was just one of the things the Dineens got off the ground. Leo and Shirley probably had purple fingers and unwanted highs after nights spent working on the old spirit duplicator which was used at first but they would have had little trouble compiling news from the various organisations; they were on most of them. When I took over as editor, a more advanced spirit duplicator was housed at the house of Youth Club stalwarts, Trev. And Val Mason. A year or so later, Peter Ogiers expertise gave the Sonic a more professional appearance with a fancy coloured letterhead. Some of the busy typists who helped in this valuable community links production were Pat Street, Kaye Caton, Val Mason, Bev. Large, Barbara Parker and Pam Dosser.
Yearly T.P.A. membership collections helped to finance the Sonic but advertisers helped too. They included:Chris & Venus Koutsovasilis (milk bar), Ross Scaffidi (greengrocer), John Osborn (chemist), Elaine Jones, G&C Camping Gear (17 Theresa St.), Moonya Farm Dairy, Tullamarine Plant Farm (Sid Wheller, 8 Sharps Rd.), Tulla Self Service, Chris & Helen Dzolis (milk bar on Spring St cnr.), Tulla Hardware, Joe & Ivan Kaytar (engineering), Ampol Service Station (Clarke, at cnr. of Sharps & Lancefield Rds.), Mobil Service Station (Peter Woods), Alan Kirby (T.V. repairs, 3 Fisher Gr.), Delicatessen & Milk Bar (next to butcher, Noel, Charlie &Marcel Zeidan), Electrician (5 Londrew), Removals (Noel Grist-the Kindergarten Associations first life member), Jeannies Driving School, Niddrie.
The November 1973 issue of the Sonic mentions:
Many lawns being overgrown. Leo Dineen, Cr Ernie Angel, Leo Caton and myself visiting the airport to discuss the aircraft noise problem with bush- basher, Leo Caton, getting bogged in Derby St on the way home. Vice Principal, Alan Hewitt, coming to the rescue when a house in Eumarella St. lost its tiles. The Kindergarten Associations Dinner Dance, Paper Drive and film festival, Gordon Henwoods civic spirited action, the eyesore north of the newsagency. Mrs Dianne Goodalls thanks for Sonic and applauding the many community activities. Convenor, Leo Dineens notice of a meeting on 14 November to form a tennis club with those unable to attend being asked to contact Leo or Jeff Chivell. And the Youth Clubs football, gymnastics, ballet, table tennis, guitar classes, cricket, and basketball. The Progress Association Committee consisted of C.Warne (P), R.Gibb (S), Cr. Dineen, R.Watts, I.Romoniw, K. Critchley, L.Garnar, L.Caton, and Bev. Large (A.S.). Thanks were extended to Ron Langtip for his long service as Treasurer and the retiring President, Leo Caton. Elected to the Hall Committee were: Bev Large, Ruth Kelly, Pat Street, Rhonda Lilly, Len Garnar, M.Rogan, G.Lofts, C. Warne, Reg Pryce, J.Young, Ray Cannon and L.Dineen. T.P.A. requests included vehicles not entering the proposed Derby St development (Ansair) via Derby St, the M.M.T.B. to extend their services to Gladstone Park and a sign and historical board to be placed at Greens Corner.
The November, 73 issue continued a history of the early days of the youth club, which I will quote.
Well there we were,a totally inexperienced committee of ten people (Mr Stephen Wenczel had by then been introduced to and accepted onto the foundation committee.)
However, lack of experience was well compensated for by the enthusiasm shown by all.
SATURDAY, 21st JUNE, 1969.
The day started very early for some. Bread, donated by a Coburg bakery,had to be collected. Also a portable gas stove on loan from friends in Essendon, frankfurts from Flemington, drinks from Ascot Vale.
At 8:30 on the dot, Brian Bennett was loading his trailer with portable goal posts, footballs, basketballs, tug-o- war ropes etc.
Activities began at 9 a.m. Children! They were everywhere. Brian Bennett, Cr. Leo Dineen, Martin and Tom Allison and Stephen Wenczel volunteered their time to coach the boys at football. Christine Kennett, Dianne Tucker and Jenny Dinsdale led girls in basketball (netball). They were assisted by Mrs. Smith,a senior basketball coach.
The hot dog stand proved an outstanding success. By the time the last one was dispensed, the toilers, Mrs. Muscat and Mrs. Allison were in a state of collapse. The children also accounted for 12 dozen soft drinks. This is a quote from the Keilor Messenger which started early in June 1969, Editor, Cec. Rowlands was giving the club a much appreciated burst of publicity. Indeed he continued to do so for as long as we supplied him with material. Mr Keith Johnson M.H.R., a former Broadmeadows councillor, was in attendance and offered to help the club in any way possible. At this stage activities were free. The Clubs sole source of income being special efforts, the hot dog stand and donations. (If I remember correctly, Val Mason was writing this history; it is typical of Trev and Val that their names are missing!)
News and issues mentioned in other issues of the SONIC follow:
Children riding mini bikes on footpaths. Cyclists riding near shop doorways. Design of the Kindergarten was underway and steps were being taken to rezone the Dawson St. site.Council officers had been instructed to contact the C.R.B. re alignments to spreed up the commencement of construction of Fosters Rd. (Keilor Park Dr.). Work on Broadmeadows Rd. would start when Fosters Rd. was finished. People were asked not to park on the service road at the Melrose Dr. shops as it endangered children going from the (mud/ dustbowl ) car park to the shops.
T.P.A. 15-3-73 MEETING. R.LANGTIP, T.SCHWAB, K.JONES, B.LARGE, M. KERSCHBAUMER, P. OGIER, L.DINEEN, R.LILLY, T.MASON, L.CATON, MRS C. DUDLEY, R.GIBB, M.MOORE,& B.LARGE ATTENDED WITH THE LAST THREE FILLING THE VACANT POSITIONS OF SEC., ASS. SEC., AND HALL COMM. SEC.
The treasurer, Rhonda Kuflik and her husband, Richard, were thanked for putting up with a backyard full of bottles for so long; as they wanted a lawn, the bottle drive had now ended. (I seem to remember Bev Lindsey using her garage as a drop off place on nominated dates after this.)
Thanks to Monica and Frank Place and Faye and Ron McDonald for donations. Presentations were made to the children with the Sextons, Howes, Bants, Posts, McFarlanes, Eriksons, DAgatas and Lillys being among those not mentioned previously in connection with Little Aths.(Incidentally, Carey Hall who was a junior footy champ and handy at aths. became an international cyclist.)
Little Aths. was still part of the Youth Club at this stage.
Jenny Godber was to be the new ballet teacher and the committee was comprised of Mesdames Croce, Aikas, Taylor and Pereira. The T.Y.C. football committee consisted of John Pearson (P), Ray Lofts (VP), John Petersen (TR.), Marty Allison (Sec.), John Hall, John Amott, John McDonald and Wayne Whiting; retiring officials, Ken Boots, Don Tudor and Ken Davies were thanked for their efforts. Jenny Savill, Kerri Pearson, Billy Keegan and Anthony Armstrong represented the club at a Government House function. Local children who assisted in the Red Cross Doorknock were Pam Rossely, Debra Kovac, Ian Scown, Brendan Mason, Robert Pezeli, Grant Tudor, Colin and Randall Todd and Steven Collins.
In presenting cricket trophies to Anthony Armstrong, Phillip Briggs, David Jones, John Bennett, Stephen Davies, John Wenczel, Peter Daniel and Mark Pearson, Cr.Cliff Harvey spoke glowingly of the service given by the late Sid Hedger and Ivor Anderson after whom shields had been named. President, Ken Boots, thanked coaches and the committee.
Jenny Abdillas gymnastics classes were popular. Volleyball would be starting soon.
May, 73 SONIC.
A Personality of The Month article featured Leo Dineen. Grandson of the Tullamarine S.S. 2613 teacher in the 1920s (and an early Progress Association auditor and committee member), and son of a teacher, Leo settled in Tullamarine in 1961. Seven years later, he moved to Theresa St. Having joined the Progress Association in 1962, Leo started the SONIC in 1963 and served many years as T.P.A. Secretary in the 1960s.
Inaugural President of the Keilor Little Athletics Centre, trustee of the youth club and a member of just about every committee in Tulla, Leo conveys hosts of noisy young footballers to games in his station wagon as well. First elected to Keilor Council in 1967, Leo served as Mayor in 1970-1. His close co-operation with the Progress Association has led to better lighting, the service road in front of the shopping centre, the Triangular Estate drainage scheme, and the Spring St. drain being undergrounded. To come in the near future are a pavilion, sealed car park,a storeroom added to the hall and other sporting facilities.
His wife, Shirley, the proud mother of Mike 12, Tricia 10, Tony 8, and Kevin 5, is also very active in Little Athletics activities as well as coping with her young family while Leo spends nearly every night of the week at meetings.
For the second month in a row over 2 tons of newspapers has been collected. The Gala Day on Queens Birthday will feature a womens football match, again, a bike-a thon, and pony rides (provided by Peggy Ball).
Tullamarine Volleyball Club. Wednesdays 8:30- 10:30. Ph. 338 4148 for details.
BALLET. Mrs Barbara Potter, liason officer, has not been mentioned yet.
CONTACTS. Little Aths.-Shirley Dineen Cricket- George Armstrong
Football-Marty Allison Gym.- Mrs Pomroy
Badminton- Betty Davies Volleyball- Ray Gibb
Table Tennis- Steven Baric Ballet- Sandra Taylor
Prospective new activities- Trevor Mason
A teacher is wanted for guitar classes.
Thanks to Ian McFarlane, Wayne Martin, Cyril Milne, Frank Place, John Hall and Trevor Mason for assistance with the weekly special effort.
Basket Supper Dance 30th June. Ticket secretaries- Ian McFarlane, Val Taylor, George Armstrong, Barbara McColley, Ronnie Crawford.
First round of footy- best: U9. N.Allison &C. Hall. U11. M. Allison, J. DAgata, E.De Francesco
AROUND AND ABOUT. Milton Cooper (Boxer) and Paul Sproule (footballer) are two residents having success in sport. Greenvale reservoir opened on 18-4- 1973.
The last document of this era that I have found is the Kindergarten Association Annual Report of 19-3- 1973. It gives some insight into the activity taking place at the time, both to raise funds and make Tullamarine a community. It is unsigned but I am sure that Sandra Braun was the Secretary.
We are now about to enter our third year...This past year has been marked by many and varied functions.Ben Halls bazaar..was also affected by bad weatherThe early part of winter seemed to be the time for demonstration parties.
The highlight of the year was without doubt the Gala Day held on Queens Birthday weekend. All members of the committee co-operated very well to make this day the outstanding day it no doubt was, but special thanks are given to Mr. Ray Gibb who donated so much of his time towards making this day a function to be remembered. There were stalls set up inside the hall and afternoon tea was provided also; however during the morning the local children took part in a runathon which raised a considerable amount of money, then the parents and other interested people enjoyed a barbeque whilst the children queued eagerly for hot dogs and pony rides! In the afternoon much hilarity was seen at the ladies football game against the lady members of the local youth club, who took the field under the name of Masons Mashers.September was again a busy month for the committee with a baby show and a fashion parade. Thanks are extended to Mrs. Elaine Cardona for all the effort she put into making the baby show a success- and it only went to show how many babies there were in Tullamarine.and thanks are extended to Mrs. Lyn Milley who undertook the organising of the successful fashion parade. ..Early in November there was a luncheon showing of the Myer spring catalogue and all who attended expressed their enthusiasm. Two street stalls were held and thanks are given to those who man the stall and local residents who donate the wonderful cakes which are no small part of the success of such stalls. Cookery books were typed , run off and sold.
During the latter half of the year Mr. Ray Gibb and Mr John Storey organised several paper drives and bottle collections. Thanks are extended to both and especially to Ray, for the immense amount of work involved in the paper collections. Also we must thank the local husbands who assisted, and Mr. Noel Grist for the frequent use of his furniture van for removal of the papers to the depot.
As regards the bottle collections, thanks must be given to our President (Bev. Cassar) and Treasurer (Rhonda Kuflik) who have done most of the collecting alone and even risked a fracas with the garbage collectors to make a few extra dollars for the kindergarten. Toy parties were held shortly prior to ChristmasThe local chemist Mr.J.Osborn was nominated to pick the winner which turned out to be a committee member!
Everyone in Tullamarine will agree that the year was finished with a rousing send off at the Community Centre with our first ever cabaret ball. Socially this was about the most successful function ever held by the Association and the thanks for this must go to Mr. John Storey who not only worked to make the administrative arrangements a success, but also took time off work to assist in decorating the hall.
Financially this year has been extremely successful, but this is due in the main to the wonderful support received towards our weekly donation campaign, which is nearing its final stages now. Especial thanks are given to all our tireless workers who unfailingly give of their time and efforts each week, and we must also thank the local residents who have so willingly donated this money. It is thanks to these people that our bank balance now stands in excess of $3,500. (This amount would have bought a house block in Tulla in 1971!)
During the year we regretfully accepted the resignation of our inaugural President Mrs. Deanna Johnson, who due to family circumstances, moved back to Queensland. Rhonda Kuflik has been an able and energetic treasurer. I know I speak on behalf of all committee memberswhen I express our very sincere thanks to our President, Beverley Cassar, who stepped into Deannas shoes when she left and has unfailingly given of her best to make sure the various functions are a success.
(Three people who worked hard for the kindergarten were Alan Kirby, Carol Wright and Doug Fraser, especially in the paper drives. Maureen Leahy also gave great service, as did Bev. Lindsey who was also a prime mover with the scouts.)
MORE GREAT WORKERS.
As sure as women gossip, Ill leave somebody off the list but chats with Frank Thom, Maureen Leahy and Bev Lindsey today have oiled my rusty memory.
SCOUTS. Penny and Wayne Killen, Dora and Trevor Still, Cliff Staggard, Mick Dowell, Ivan Gellie, Molly and Eric Allen, Stan and Ellen Wright, Gary and Bev Lindsey, Ian McFarlane, Gordon Henwood*, Pat Pieroni, Bob Ratten, Bill and Audrey Walden, Frank Thom, Ross and Ron McDonald (unrelated), Mal Fry, Dawn Torode, Ivy Lilly.
KINDERGARTEN. Ian Goudie (who also gave the football club long service as a trainer and served it as secretary), Bill Collins, Roy Hollis, Ron and Anita Dawson, Prue Hicks, Ron Farrugia, Graeme Smith, Doug Fraser, Mike and Heather Keenan, Richard & Annette Benson, Mike & Dianne Leahy.
SONIC EDITOR. Ian Howard.
SCHOOL. Doug Fraser, Kevin Jones, Ray Lofts, Vivien Sutherland (canteen), Doris Rorke (garden), Reg Pryse, Peter Gordon, Ray Gibb, Frank Thom (sprinkler system).
GUIDES. Mrs Gregg. HALL COMMITTEE. Ray Cannon.
(*Without Gordon's help in 1988 I would not have been able to start my historical research!)
Tullamarine Progress Association.
The minutes book reveals some of the communitys concerns.
19-4-73. Airport noise, poor state of road shoulders near railway bridge.
17-5-73. Drains in Lancefield Rd. north of Greens Corner.
21-6-73. Police station needed.
19-7-73. Stop sign at Carrick Dr, flat policy and Tadstan Dr. sewerage requested. Residents asked for suggestions re renaming Lancefield Rd.
15-11-73. Council workers strike for eight weeks. With the approval of state union secretary, Neil Cole, Ray Gibb organises a collection of Tullas maggot- ridden garbage. With Dave Calders truck and collectors such as Carol Wright and Dieter Behrendt, after a threatening confrontation at Keilor tip, all of Tullas rubbish was disposed of.
21-2-74. Police asked to supervise traffic leaving drive-in. Lancefield Rd. beautification (mounds).
Railway station requested near Caterpillar.
21-3-74. Need to solve traffic problem near bridge before Cadbury Schweppes opens. (It opened in January 1975.)
18-4-74. Cleaning of Spring Creek needed.
20-6-74. Whistling noise from Frozen Foods is annoying residents.
18-8-74. Sewerage in the Malvern Avenue area.
31-10-74. Kindergarten Association asking for temporary use of hall.
4-12-74. Slowness in installing requested stop signs due to need for traffic counts say the councils. Fence needed for creek in Dawson St.
28-3-75. Lack of action by Keilor City Council re storage room for hall. Ron Langtip and Cr.Gibb attended the first meeting of the Keilor Park Progress Association.
26-5-75. T.P.A. presses for duplication of the railway bridge. Oval at Spring St. to be ready for next football season and the pavilion by Christmas. Youth Club Storage shed. (It was placed about where Tulla players enter their change rooms.)
28-8-75. A special meeting is held so that ward councillors Dineen, Tagell and Gibb can explain why they, with Crs. Hall, Free and Heinze, called for the sacking of Keilor Council. Municipal Administration Inspector, B.C.Kellehers report in September confirmed claims about council officers: attempting to discredit councillors and the Town Clerk, having suspicious land dealings, responding Bullshit to a statement in a meeting by the Town Clerk with the Mayor taking no action. He also stated that the Mayor had not exercised the degree of authority necessary to maintain even reasonable control over meetings. The guilty officers had sided with the City Engineer in a power struggle with the Town Clerk some years earlier, as had the councillors with whom they were conspiring.
THE LATER 70S.
By this time, Tullamarine was filling up and most of the facilities, such as the library in 1978, had been provided. This meant more time could be spent in the home and the frenetic hard yakka, which had developed Tulla so quickly, was no longer necessary. But those who shared this toil have fond memories of mates and achievements.
DO YOU REMEMBER?
The tyre service south of the K.F.C. site and the frequent black-smoke fires.
Social basketball on the outdoor court at Spring St. and then at Niddrie High.
Youth Club Basketball teams playing at the Showgrounds (teenagers such as Kevin Morrison playing open age) and later younger lads at Morgans factory in the creek valley.
Youth Club Coffee Nights every Friday night until mid 1978.
The first under 13 football team starting games at about 8:30 every Saturday morning with Jeff Chivell as Coach, Noel West and Ted Jennings as officials and Betty Davies providing 100 decibel support.
The houses that used to be where the Melrose Drive Shopping Centre is now.
The open drain that ran through the Spring St. Reserve; the children used to have great fun chasing rats.
Tullamarine- Ascot Vale, coached by Ken Newton and with a nippy young rover named Robbie McDonald, playing at the Melrose Dr. Reserve in about 1972 before moving to Fairbairn Park. This club merged with Essendon Baptists- St. Johns with the new club commencing at the newly- finished Spring St. oval and immediately setting about smashing Douttas E.D.F.L. consecutive A Grade premierships record. The oval was constructed by Frank Thom who served the scouts, School and Kindergarten well: his wife Carol was a member of the Kindergarten Association committee. Those who contributed to the five consecutive A Grade flags were: A.BENT 75-9; P.OWEN 75-9; T. HOPE 75,6,8,9; T.HERSBACH 75-9; A.FISCHER 75,6,7,9; J.GLEN 75-9; S.SPARK 75-9; G.OBRIEN 75-8; A.DELALANDE 76-9; R.McDONALD 75-8; B.PATERSON 75-6; A. PATERSON 76-8; G.PATERSON 76-8; J. ANDERSON 76-8; P.WHITE 77-9; P.MUTIMER 75,6,9; I.LUMSDEN 75,7,9; S.DAVIES 77-8; R. PARKER 76-8; G.HARRISON 75,8,9; B.TREGONING, S.BORDINGNON, C.SMITH, J.BORDIGNON(C.C.), C.FRASER IN 1975; J. FLETCHER, R.WOODS, R.JONES 1976; L.FROST, D.LOVECOTT, M.PEARCE, J.WELSH 1977; P.SMITH, G.LARKIN 1978; J.EDWARDS (COACH),M.CLARKSON,A.SIMIC,T.LAVERDE, J.POTTER, M.DUNCAN, K.ROBERTS 1979.
Peter Owens dazzling play for Tulla. For one who couldnt get a game in the under 17s, the level of skill and determination he displayed was amazing. He coached the last two premiership sides and coached Strathmore to the next years flag.
Tullas miraculous effort to come back from a seven goal deficit in the last five minutes and win the B Grade flag under Gary Cranes coaching in 1981. The clubs other B grade premiership was won with Graeme Harrison at the helm in 1993.
Of course I forgot some workers. Here are the ones Ive recalled already.
Alma Prest (Guides) and her husband, Gordon (school committee).
Linda Smith (Sonic typing and Guides)
Heather Keenan (Hall booking Officer between Bev Large and myself)
Frank Townsend ( Teenage Coffee nights )
Doug Troon (Teenage Coffee Nights) and Glenys (Brownies).
Colin and Grace Miller (Stalwarts of Neighbourhood Watch for ages.)
Ray Scicluna (Kindergarten committee)
Spouses such as my wife,Val Gibb, and Charlie Cassar etc. who gave much behind the scenes support.
SNIPPETS FROM THE PAST. By Leo Dineen.
(Unfortunately this had to be summarised due to limited space.)
One of the most remarkable community achievements resulted in the building of the Tullamarine Hall. Keilor Council agreed in 1967 to build a hall if the community raised $4000. The Progress Association hall committee, led by Len Garnar, asked each resident for 20c per week which was collected from the meter box every Sunday morning, mainly from the Triangle Estate and the area near Gordon St.
One of the identities of the era was Ben Kelly. Often seen working in his vegetable garden in the early hours of the morning and returning to his home at the Tadstan Dr. corner, in his uniform of blue overalls and army coat, with a wheelbarrow of purchases from the shopping centre, as Progress Association president, Ben demanded punctuality and at 8 p.m. a line would be ruled in the attendance book to indicate that any further signatures were of latecomers. (Much more on Ben in Before The Jetport.)
The early meetings of the Progress Association (formed at a meeting convened by Tom Loft in 1924) were held on the first Monday night of the month MOONLIGHT PERMITTING.
The organiser of the 22-11-1998 reunion was one of the hardest workers for the community but arrived at a council meeting one night appearing as though he had gone five rounds with a crocodile, having been forced off the narrow Fosters Rd. bridge by a speeding car.
Tullamarine in 1960.
A milk bar/ garage (Greens Corner) at the corner of Mickleham and Bulla Road.
Housing only as far west as Gordon St. and Christopher Crescent, with other houses past Tadstan Dr. and on the Triangle Estate.
Unmade streets on the Triangle with stagnant water in poorly drained gutters.
One small Infant Welfare Centre off Carol Grove.
No Broadmeadows Rd. School as the old school (S.S.2613) was in its last year of operation at the Conders Lane corner. (Nth. Corner of Link Rd. and Melrose Dr.)
NO hall, tennis courts,kindergarten,doctor, chemist, sporting teams, youth club or sewerage and only a couple of shops.
Did you know that the architect of the original pavilion building designed the Great Southern Stand at the Melbourne Cricket ground? His name. Darrel Jackson.
by bluestonedreaming on 2012-02-06 04:01:54
That is fascinating and fantastic amount of info! woow thanks!
I googled ben kelly quickly and found a trove piece that mentioned him. He sounds a character form your descriptionindeed! He must have been on t he land opposite me, as i am the east corner of melrose and tadstan(closest to broadmeadows Rd0. Units are popping up everywhere, i am a little sad all the houses are being purchased and demolished. looks like the house next to northedge units (next to 7-11,the old Greens corner i now know) has been sold in readyness for more units.So between my place and ht eocrner, i notice on my walks thta one house remains - obvioulsy quite strong to resisit the real estate harassment i imgine. i have had cold callings even at my unti form Agents tryign to entice to sell! Such is "progress" eh?
How interesting that some things have changed yet others not! there is still so much talk of a railway,now propsed behind my parents house in Churchill Ave, alhtogh many believe it won't eventuate. Reading about a station once asked for at Caterpillar factory is interesting, as my family an dI have often discussed some kind of action group to get a station there. Also there was talk of *if* the train line eventuted behind Churchill and onto th eairport (proposing underground station and tus,perhaps partly under the gorund through those paddocks..which are rapidly being eaten up by fatcories built ont he once designated land of clearance / no buildings by the airport), we would try to rally for a station for Tulla at the veyr least! it would make sense at Caterpillar now what with Westfield being right there and the gowanbrae estate flourishing.
Very sad on people losing life sacings on investments. My parents lost house deposit savings when first married to a man who "sold" thme land in lancefield thne fled with the cash back to ireland ! Grandparents led a life of poverty due to hard earned savings being lost in a similar fashiomn. Very sad those things happen.
i wonder what Walter Murphy would htink of melbourne's second airport finally eventuating at Avalon when he fought so hard for it to be THE Melbourne airport!
Sewerage probelms gosh!!! We have had small sewerage and drainage problems on this block of unit shere at Tadsrtan drvie ove rth elast decade, how curious.
WHat a shame your suggestion of aero names for local streets was not taken on board! however, I do appreciate the names along melrose knowing they come form history and the farms thta wer eonce there named accordingly. I ma curious as to what tadstan Drive is named after? everythign else seems to have a family name or property name as street name, so I am curious to know if you can enlightne me on Tadstan?? have mused if it was part of a reference to Stanhill?
by itellya on 2012-02-06 06:22:25
The house next door to North Edge was Major Murphy's. It should be preserved and I intend to write a letter to the Hume Leader about this.
You could be right in your theory about Tadstan Drive being linked to Stanley Korman. The maps on pages 196 and 197 show land purchased by Korman's companies between 1954 and 1959. The first shows that he bought land right up to Hughie Williamson's "Dunvegan", by then owned by Hill, and confirms that he indeed purchased Strathconnan and Denham's land (now Catherine Ave and Trade Park.) You will notice that Broombank and the 18 acre Junction Estate (to Londrew Court)are not included in either map.
Ray Loft had subdivided Broombank in 1952, most likely along Millar Rd (named after his wife's family) to start with. My reason for believing this is that, at this time, the centre of activity was still to the north with the school at the Conders Lane (Link Rd) corner and the post office on the site of Henderson Rd until, (perhaps late) 1959. Perhaps Korman purchased the Tadstan Drive portion in about 1960 to join onto "Strathconnan".
Incidentally, Strathconnan is shown as having been purchased from Kay but the owner's name was actually Kaye. He was probably a Pole (like Ilko Romaniw and others on the triangular estate)and when he first bought Strathconnan his name was recorded in rate books as Kowarzic. He was the manager of Australian National Airways until Reg Ansett took it over to form Ansett-A.N.A.
by itellya on 2012-02-06 06:30:44
I forgot to mention that there is not even one white pages entry for TADSTAN, residential or business! The only result on google for TADSTAN (apart from street names) is an entry in the Cairns Post which is so blurry that the surname might not even be Tadstan. There are streets in Clayton South and Donvale with the name.
by bluestonedreaming on 2012-02-08 07:02:34
i do hope Majot Murphy's house can be prserved! i do recall seeing a very small red placard asking for objuections to be submitted to the ocuncil ,maybe in december? All the trees along the fence shared with Northedge have been removed. I have laways liked that house,it's roses and concrete fornt fountain.
Interesting Tadstan missing from the white pages. I noticed as I checke dout many of your melway refernce shere on the net, tadstan drive is missign from the initial look at pg 5. Odd.
by itellya on 2012-02-18 03:54:14
I made a mistake about Bridget Madden being Maurice Crotty's daughter. She was his sister. This mistake will be corrected in bold type in the journal when I have time. I will also be adding information about the Maddens in this journal and the one about the Inverness Hotel. The Maddens were related by marriage to the Daniel family of Narbonne.
by jadethan on 2013-07-30 18:53:31
I have a photo of old Tullamarine taken around 1960 or perhaps earlier. It looks like it was taken from the top of the old drive in screen. I can send it to you if you can provide an email address.
My family lived at 76 Broadmeadows Rd from 1953 till the 80's or later. My mother Ruth Kelly was involved with the Tullamarine Progress Association for a long time. There was a thermometer in the window of Garner's newsagency for quite a while showing how much money had been raised to build the community hall.
My father, Frank Kelly, ran a welding shop behind the service station at the corner of Bulla and Mickleham Rd's in the 50's and early 60's. I believe the original service station was the same building that used to be the old pub which, legend has it, was once frequented by Squizzy Taylor.
I can remember picnicing by the creek when the western side of Broadmeadows Rd was largely farmland. There used to be a nice spot where it ran under Sharps Rd and there was a stand of large pine trees providing shade. It's just a dip in the road now.
My eldest sister could provide a lot of information on what Tulla was like back in the 50's and 60's.
by itellya on 2013-07-31 12:13:33
I knew Ruth and her mate, Rhonda Lilley well. They loved badminton and were heavily involved with the Hall Committee.Do you remember the putrid burning tyres in the yard near the shops? Cec and Lily Green ran a garage/shop in the old Junction Hotel and one day had a visit from a retired policeman who showed them a bullet that lodged in a door when the police tried to arrest Squizzy Taylor.
A NINETY ONE YEAR OLD REMEMBERS.
Mom worked briefly at the drive in canteen.. also at Dugans chicken farm... then at TAA in the technical library... her boss was Mr Harvey who also lived in Tulla. She was a teacher at Niddrie High School for many years too. And here is Alena Karazija's story in her own words.
Early days in Tullamarine
Early in the 1950s my father took me to Airport West, as far as the tram would go. We then walked to the bridge over the railway and my father said: "See those big trees over there? That's where I put a deposit for your block.
That block was in the Triangle Estate, part of a new subdivision of farmland, The address was Lot No. 9 , Bulla Rd.
Father also put deposits on several blocks for his friends, because in those days we tended to keep close to friends, like a substitute for our lost homeland. The full price of our block was 100 pounds. My brothers was a corner block, so it cost 120 pounds.
There was no water, no sewerage, no gas and no footpaths, so it was not surprising, that the others sold their blocks very soon.
We desperately wanted to build our home, but had no money. My husband went from Building Society to Building Society trying to join one, but you could only join, when a new one was being formed. Finally he found one, but was told the block had to be fully paid off first, so we borrowed the enormous sum of 100 pounds. With that out of the way, we were allowed to pay the 3 pounds fee to join the Society and that was the deposit for our home!
By the time we started building, there were still no amenities, so a watertank was part of the building contract .If you get water in the meantime, I will put in an electric stove of your choice instead of a watertank, said the builder.
The block at the time belonged to the shire of Keilor, and there we got our building permit. As the frame was being put up, a building inspector came and ordered us to pull it down, because the outer walls were only 8 feet high. The building regulations required all walls to be 9 feet. We had 10 feet middle walls and a sloping ceiling together with the roof , but that did not cut any ice with the inspector. Lucky for us, we found a by-law which permitted one 8 ft. wall, if the room was built into the roof. I went to the Council and argued that our whole house was built into the roof! After several trips and arguments, we were permitted to go on with the building. Some months later I noticed a few more buildings being built into the roof
One day my husband saw workmen digging trenches in the road. They were for the waterpipes for the new airport! And what about the residents?, asked my husband. All the residents will get water as well, was the answer. Hurrah! We shall have our stove!
We had to get to know the area. The first to make contact was our 4 year old son Algutis. In no time there were several boys running around; none spoke English, but all communicated perfectly in German, Dutch, Hungarian and Lithuanian. A Scottish boy introduced them to English.
There were no neighbours next door, but a few doors away was a milkbar (still in the same place!) and further on a greengrocer more like a market stall, than a shop. But at the end of the street , about where the hardware shop stands now) was a real corner shop. One could buy a newspaper and postal stamps, a jumper, fresh meat and groceries. The proprietess, Mrs. Garnar, was an institution : she knew the people, and who was looking for a job and who could offer one. She also knew what interesting activities were held in the neighbourhood and informed the people.
Going the other way towards Sharps Rd., was a house with a plaster stork in the front garden. The children enjoyed going for a walk to look at the stork.
There was a fairly large expanse between our house and the road, and in the mornings we often found cows grazing and looking in through the window. When we built fences, we sometimes saw families sitting outside our front fence having a picnic.
A short while later Don Williams started building a house next door to us, and moved in with his family. That was a lucky day for us, because they turned out to be the best neighbours imaginable.
Behind our block there was nothing no houses far and wide, just large paddocks and a very small creek running in the middle, providing us with flies and mosquitos. However, a perfect place for our older boy Vyt to build and fly model aeroplanes.
In front of our house, just beyond the road, was a little pond. Our boys would go there and catch yabbies. Little field mice used to come into the house, Algutis would catch them and let them run outside.
Once a year there used to be a Gymkhana at Thomas Barn. We did not know the people, but everybody was welcome and no introductions asked for. (Only a few years ago I was introduced to Mrs. Thomas. What a surprise for me! I always thought she was Mrs. Barn).
Once a year on Guy Fawkes day all the residents grabbed whatever spare wood they had and gathered at a big paddock for a bonfire. After the merriment at the bonfire,the very popular local celebrity Major Murphy would come and entertain everybody with his skilled display of fireworks, which we never wanted to end. Ah, Major Murphy! Not only was he a civic minded man, doing a lot for the community, but also not above helping kids with their model aeroplanes or inviting our Vyt to go fox hunting with him.
Every Friday we watched an old man with horse and buggy go past our house to Victoria market We only stopped seeing him when the Tullamarine freeway was built. I heard he was stopped on his way and not allowed to go that way.( Or it may have been just a rumor).
Tullamarine kept changing gradually. In 1972 I came back from a long holiday and could not believe my eyes: our street, from Broadmeadows Rd. to Sycamore Ave., was paved, the sewerage laid on (and we could build an indoor toilet!), footpaths and kerbs made. The changes came about because the shopkeepers complained about the dust in the food shops. There were no shops beyond Sycamore Ave., so the residents were told they had to pay for the paved road, if they wanted one. We were the lucky ones.
Tullamarine has changed even the main street name. Our address changed from Lot 9 , to Bulla Rd., then to Lancefield Rd., then finally after many aviators names were suggested, it became Melrose Dve, without us moving from the spot. A service road was built and a huge pile of rubbish piled between it and the main carriage way. It looked horrible, but very quickly the rubbish was covered with earth and planted with grass, shrubs and flowers. Now we had quite a nice street and did not live on the main road any more.
The garage on Greens corner is still there, but the chicken farm on Mickleham Rd. (opposite Gladston Park) is gone. The old school, of which our younger son was the 547th enrolled pupil in 1957, has been demolished and a new school was built a couple years later in Broadmeadows Rd., on the former paddock behind our house. The trees, planted around the new school by its students, are growing strong. The dairy farm, where we used to buy fresh, unpasturized milk every day, is gone. The drive-in theatre, opposite the Tullamarine shopping centre, (free entertainment for kids sitting outside) was built , used and demolished for housing. Little landmarks, like the Dutch windmill near the railway overpass, has disappeared. And now our family has left Tullamarine as well, but pleasant memories remain.
Im 91 now and life goes on.
WE WANT LAND!
Just think,this letter was written at Pascoe Vale.
THE BEST WAY TO ESTABLISH A COLONIAL YEOMANRY.
Geelong Advertiser (Vic. : 1847 - 1851) Tuesday 21 August 1849 Edition: MORNING p 1 Article.
My time researching in the Titles Office showed me how much land was in the hands of a very small number of people. Many of the gold miners had been farmers, a large number of them having been tenant farmers in Ireland. They did not have the money to buy the large crown allotments that became available when parishes had been surveyed. In the parish of Will Will Rook,north of J.P.Fawkner's Belle Vue grant a huge area of land was bought by speculators, Hughes and Hosking, and later became part of the Kennedy estate.Much land in the parishes of Tullamarine and Bulla was alienated in square mile blocks.
Later land acts tried to prevent big landowners from obtaining so much land in grants but the use of dummies, and possibly loopholes enabled James Hearn, W.A.Blair, Charles Gavan Duffy, James Ford, James Purves, the Cains and Professor Hearn to buy huge tracts of land between Balcombe Creek's mouth and Portsea on the Mornington Peninsula for example.
Former squatter he may have been, but John Pascoe Fawkner had a great affection for yoeman farmers. He made a plea to the government to help them obtain freeholds in 1839, and a decade later he was sick and tired of the lack of action. You must read the letter. When Townships were established, suburban blocks were provided,but often multiple blocks were snapped up by such as Frederick Dawes Wickham at Horseshoe Bend near Keilor and William Allison Blair at Rye.
The only real efforts to establish closer settlement that came from Government were caused by the 1890's depression and the aftermath of war. The first effort was probably an attempt to remove beggars from the city (as one does before the Olympic Games are conducted!) Village settlements gave these people a chance to be self-sufficient and to pay off their land on easy terms.
After world war 1 an obligation to servicemen led to the establishment of soldier settlements in many areas.
By the 1930 depression the government probably decided it was easier to put the unemployed on susso projects such as Coburg Lake and the Great Ocean Road.Father Tucker's village settlement at Carrum Downs is discussed in my GORDON BOYINGTON journal.
However it was mainly the death of big landowners and the burden of death duties that caused many big landowners, such as Sir Rupert Clarke of Rupertswood and the family of William Taylor of Overnewton at Keilor, to ask the Crown to resume their huge estates. The Closer Settlement Acts circa 1900 finally achieved what John Pascoe Fawkner started in 1850, shortly after he wrote the letter,at the top of today's Oak Park Court;to give people the chance to buy their own small farms, not because they were out of a job or they had served King and Country but as a right.
Tulip Wright (section 3 Bulla) and Charles Gavan Duffy (the Irish Land Rights hero) did subdivide their grant fairly early but I doubt that their motives were as pure as good old J.P.F.,THE CHAMPION OF THE YOEMAN FARMER AND CLOSER SETTLEMENT.
Details of the many pieces of land bought by J.P.Fawkner on behalf of his co-operative members are given in several other of my journals.
I had hopes of proving or disproving that Pascoe Villa, Pascoevale,which William Smith advertised for sale in the latish 1860's, shortly after the death of his wife (see my WILLIAM SMITH journal), had been his ORIGINAL Young Queen Inn. As usual when I am unable to solve such puzzles, I had a local history dream, in which, as always, I was reading an article. It was written by Edward Butler, great grandson of Edward Butler who built* the Young Queen Inn at Pascoeville.
(* P.16-17,BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.(In 1839) "Lot number three,of 1.5 acres on the left hand side of the main road not far over the creek, was bought for L 24/9/6 by J.W.Shaw, who---promptly disposed of it to Edward Butler for L44. Butler built-as the title deed expresses it-'a large house and tenement' named the Young Queen Inn in honour of Queen Victoria in the third year of her reign.......(In 1840?)Edward Butler took advantage of the boom by disposing of his property to John Watson for L1300. Watson unloaded it towards the end of the boom,in December, 1842,to the unsuspecting William Smith of St Kilda for L1700. Smith had no one to sell it to but he persevered with the inn for the next twenty-nine years.")
Having had many local history dreams involving trove, I didn't immediately rush to my computer as I once would have. I googled "Edward Butler, Young Queen"(1840-1849) and, blow me down, Edward Butler was running the Young Queen Inn during the 1840's, IN LAUNCESTON, where Fawkner had run the Duke of Cornwall.Whether he was of the prominent Tasmanian legal family has not been discovered.
Keeping the decade limit, I searched for "young queen,pascoevale" and due to trove's quirky ways, this journal's title changed from THE YOUNG QUEEN,PASCOEVALE to PASCOEVALE.
Pascoevale.-Among the other disasters attendant upon the flood, is the carrying away of the bridge across the Moonee Moonee Ponds at Pascoevale, and the consequent stoppage of communication with the city in vehicles
of any description by that road. Major Firebrace, J. P., who lives in the immediate vicinity, has
brought the matter officially under the consideration of tho Government.(P.2, Argus, 4-12-1849.)
On 1 November, Catholic school 269 opens on the north corner of Glass St. (now Napier Cres.) and Pascoe Vale Rd. (which was known as Ashurst and Firebrace Streets at that time). It closed on 31-11-1874, and the iron schoolhouse, which had also served for worship, was moved to form the first St. Monica's. (VR, St Monica's History, EH)(Annals of Strathmore and Surrounding Areas.)
Major Firebrace was an early squatter in the Bulla area with his home station on the site of the Oaklands Hunt Club's "Sherwood" (Melway 178 C5.)SOURCE: probably D.F.Cameron-Kennedy's THE OAKLANDS HUNT but possibly BULLA BULLA by I.W.Symonds,or THE SHIRE THAT TOOK OFF by Grant Aldous, whose manuscript was probably rejected by the shire because of the tale about George Evans leaving a pistol on the table to remind Big Clarke to keep his hands off the young mistress of Emu Bottom.
Macedon (Deep Creek/Bulla)road had been surveyed in 1847 according to a descendant of E.E.Kenny of Camp Hill but was not yet THE GREAT ROAD TO THE DIGGINGS so Pascoe Vale Rd was probably the route that Firebrace took to Melbourne.
YOUNG QUEEN was deleted from the search terms at this stage but of course still appeared in many of the results. The Port Phillip District was allocated places in the New South Wales parliament but as representatives were not paid and would have to frequently be in Sydney,there was a ground-swell for separation. One of the three Keilor souvenirs has an article called THE PORT PHILLIP FARCE which involved J.F.L.Foster,with Lord Grey,the (Colonial Secretary? in England) being nominated. Little Johnny Fawkner had more to do with the separation movement than I had realised.
THE DISTRICT ELECTION.
* (From the Corio Chronicle)
On Friday, R. W. Pohlman, Esq.,Returning Officer, repaired to the hustings at Geelong, and proclaimed the
result of the voting in the several polling places, for the Electoral District of Port Phillip, to elect a representative in the room of James Williamson, Esq., resigned. The nomination of candidates took place on the 15th February, when the following candidates were put in nomination.William Macarthur*, Esq., of Camden ; John Pascoe Fawkner, Esq., of Pascoevale ; and (with a view to carry out the principle of non-representation)
Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington,who was put in nomination by Mr.Fawkner himself.(P.4, Argus, 16-3-1849.)
(*This was probably the son of the merino breeder who followed Foster as acting governor until Hotham arrived.)
CHILD EXPLOITATION WAS THE ORDER OF THE DAY!
A lad named John Meyers, was brought before the Police Bench on Tuesday charged with absconding from the service of Mr.J. P. Fawkner, of Pascoevale. The lad was only eight years of age, and had been taken away by his parents. He was ordered back, and to pay all expenses. (P.4, Argus, 16-3-1849.)
NEIGHBOURING LANDOWNERS AT WAR.
The Moonee Ponds Creek formed the boundary between section 23 Doutta Galla (south west) and John Pascoe Fawkner's Belle Vue Park in the parish of Jika Jika (north east), from Marks St near the Pascoe Vale bridge to the southern boundary of the Kingsford-Smith Ulm Reserve. Whether Major St John actually lived on "St John's" (as Harry Stevenson's portion of the former was still called circa 1920 when the Aero Club established their "St John's Field" aerodrome) is unknown, but this neighbourly dispute was not about a fence or the creek.
When I first read a report of the libel case about twenty years ago,Fawkner had been found guilty but fined some paltry amount indicating that his action had been considered just, but St John must have appealed the decision, and had the fine raised to 95 pounds. A "St John v Fawkner" trove search will supply the trial reports. Fawkner applied to Latrobe for the fine to be paid by Government and the refusal was criticised by The Argus.
BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 5 December 1848 p 2 Article
... Sir, Your most obedient servant, C. J. LA TROBE. Mr. J. P. Fawkner, Pascoevale. The Government ... 842 words
PASCOEVILLE TO PASCOEVALE.
Observing that all the 1840-1849 results (most of them William Smith advertisements about the refurbished Young Queen,the swept away bridge being replaced and the connection to the new Sydney road -see CLIFFORDS RD journal) were from 1849, I suspected that the locality's name had recently changed so I changed my search to Pascoeville.
Colonial Secretary's Office, Sydney 11th September,1849.
WITH reference to the Government notice of date 13th April, 1848, relative to opening of certain Parish Roads in the District of Port Phillip, and to that described as No. 3 therein, namely :-The Old Sydney or Pascoe
ville Road leading from Mount Macedon* Road to the New Sydney Road : notice is hereby given (etc.)
(Colonial Secretary's Office, Sydney, 11th September, 1849. ROADS.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 24 September 1849 p 1 Article.)
(*Mt Macedon road is now Mt Alexander Rd with the Pascoeville road leaving it at Moonee Ponds Junction.)
There was only one more result for Pascoeville in the 1840's.
Horticultural Society. On Saturday last a meeting was held at the "Queen's Head Hotel," Queen-street, pursuant to public notice, for the purpose of taking into consideration the propriety of forming a Horticultural Society in Melbourne, embracing in its operation the entire Province. Mr. J. P. Fawkner, of
Pascoeville, was called to the chair, and that gentleman addressed the meeting at considerable length in favor of the proposed institution,pointing out the utility of such societies in causing a praiseworthy emulation among gardeners, and others employed in the culture of our fine soil. (P.2, Argus, 28-11-1848.)
Was this because of faulty digitisation? Did Pascoeville persist into the 1850's? What was the original name for the locality? Delete the limit of only articles from The Argus.
The Argus had previously been The Melbourne Argus. The name change had come between AUG and November, 1848.
Most of the Melbourne Argus results concerned the proclamation of parish roads as mentioned above (where Pascoe Vale Rd was wrongly called No.3, unless the digitisation was wrong.)
e.g.Colonial Secretary's Office,
Sydney, 13th April, 1848.
HIS Excellency the Governor, with the advice of the Executive Council, having deemed it expedient to open and make certain Parish Roads, in the District of Port Phillip, viz. :
1. New line of road from North Melbourne to the Village of Bulla, known as the Mount Macedon Road.
2. Proposed Keila, or Portland Road,from the Mount Macedon Road, to Keila Bridge.
3. Occupation Road, leading from the Mount Macedon Road to Taylor and Green's purchases in Bulla Bulla
4. The old Sydney or Pascoeville Road, leading from the Mount Macedon Road to the New Sydney Road,(plans etc.)
(P.1, The Melbourne Argus,30-6-1848.)
THOSE ROADS TODAY.
1. Present Flemington Rd,Mt Alexander Rd,Wirraway Rd, Bulla Rd, Melrose Drive, and, from Melway 177 F9, Sunbury Rd.
2. Keilor Rd. Keilor was a gaelic word (whose meaning was given in one of the Keilor souvenirs) for the run of Hunter and Watson, who must have pronounced it as most un-pedantic people do instead of Kee-law. (*I can check it in my dictionary history if requested.) Because of the gold rush, Keilor road became known as Mt Alexander Rd and retained the name into the 1900's.
3. This was Oaklands Rd. Ann Greene was granted a square mile (section 4, Bulla) at the north west corner of Somerton and Oaklands Rd and Taylor section 9,also of 640 acres, a mile further north and across the road. This was later part of the estate of Glenara's Walter Clark who called it Dunalister after his son of M.V.R.C. and black rose fame; it is now called Balbethan.
4.Pascoe Vale Rd.
SALE of LAND.--Mr. W. H. Mortimer sold by auction on Wednesday last, on the ground, at Pascoeville, sixteen allotments, forming in all one acre and a half at £65. The sale was but thinly attended, owing to the boisterous state of the weather. (Port Phillip News.The Sydney Monitor and Commercial Advertiser (NSW : 1838 - 1841) Thursday 13 August 1840 Edition: MORNING p 3 Article.)
In the Insolvent Estate of John Pascoe Fawkner,of Pascoeville, in the District of Port Phillip.
NOTICE is hereby given that an account and plan of distribution of available assets in the estate of John Pascoe Fawkner, of Pascoeville, the above named insolvent, now lies at the Office of the Chief Commissioner of Insolvent Estates for the District of Port Phillip, at the Supreme Court House, La Trobe-street, Melbourne, for the inspection (etc.) (The Melbourne Argus (Vic. : 1846 - 1848) Friday 25 December 1846 p 2 Article.)
Fawkner sold off the Belle Vue land between Pascoe Vale Rd and Northumberland Rd, a large part of which fronting Gaffney St was purchased by Henry George Ashurst* (after whom part of Pascoe Vale Rd was originally named) who leased it out to such as John Kernan who settled there in 1856 and called it Merai Farm. Fawkner could not be dispossessed of the rest of Belle Vue Park because he put it in his wife's name**.
*COAL. On Mr. Ashhurt's property at Pascoeville, the men employed sinking a well near that gentleman's house have come to a vein of coal eighty feet from the surface ; the vein is three feet thick, and samples of the coal have been brought to town and found to be of excellent quality ;such a discovery we need not say is of the
utmost importance to our province. Herald.(Launceston Examiner (Tas. : 1842 - 1899) Saturday 30 July 1842 Edition: MORNING p 8 Article.)
** John Stephen further adds that he is informed and believes that I reside beyond the distance of seven miles; this is a fact which he could have easily tested; equivocation will not do on this point, all I say on the
subject is, that my farm is on the five-mile line from Melbourne, as laid down by the surveyors, and the five-mile land reserved to be sold at an enhanced price joins the corner of my land, or my wife' s land at
Pascoeville. (P.7. Launceston Examiner,1-3-1843.) John Stephen had probably challenged Fawkner's entitlement to stand for public office because of his sentence to hard yakka at Coal River and being outside the residential limit.
BHURR STONE.- Bhurr Stone which, for the purpose of constructing mill-stones, is of the greatest importance, is abundantly found in the neighbourhood of Melbourne, On the banks of the Saltwater River, near' Maine's and Dobson's quarry*, as well as at Pascoeville, on the east side of the valley, it exists in large
quantities, which were discovered about four years ago.(etc.) (P.2,Geelong Advertiser, 18-4-1844.)
The Niddrie quarry,now a residential area, was near the north west corner of J.P.Main's grant,section 12 Doutta Galla. Probably a lot of the metal used by George Holmes to make the road to "Keila" came from Main's Estate.
PASCOEVILLE ROAD IS BETTER!
Carriers between Melbourne and Seymour complain of the heavy state of the roads, especially that via Pentridge; on the other hand the Pascoeville or Young Queen road is in comparatively good condition, arising from the limited traffic thereupon, the former being somewhat shorter. This hint is worthy of note by parties having business upon the line. (P.2, The Melbourne Argus, 15-8-1848.)
CATTLE STEALING.- Pat Connerty, keeper of the town herd, and John McManus, butcher,were placed at the bar of the Police Court,on Tuesday morning last, charged with having received stolen cattle, the property of Mr.
Francis William Cobb*, of Pascoeville, who stated that be had lost, on Tuesday, the 15th instant, seven head of cattle from his station,(etc.)
(The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842) Thursday 7 April 1842 p 4 Article.)
Although he was not mentioned by Andrew Lemon, I'm sure I saw Cobb's name in the 1863 Broadmeadows assessments.
*HE MAY HAVE BEEN FAWKNER'S BROTHER IN LAW! (See below.)
Edward Butler did run the Young Queen.I had wondered about that.
Prisoners of the Crown. On Saturday morning Mr Butler, of Pascoeville, was fined 20(s.?) for permitting a prisoner of the crown to drink on his premises. (The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842) Saturday 23 January 1841 p 2 Article.)
HOW DID PASCOEVILLE BECOME OAK PARK?
The fruit and forest trees imported from England in 1839 and planted at Pascoeville, have grown very luxuriantly.The forest trees,; as horse chestnut, oak, maple, lime, sycamore, acatia, alder,walnut, and edible Chesnut (which last is showing blossom) have made wonderful growths.
(Geelong Advertiser and Squatters' Advocate (Vic. : 1845 - 1847) Saturday 8 November 1845 p 3 Article.)
Joseph English bought Fawkner's remaining portion following the death of Eliza (nee Cobb*) Fawkner's widow, and enlarged or replaced Fawkner's homestead. The Morgan and Knight (related) families were involved and I have just spotted Pine Avenue which might indicate the location of Fred Morgan's "The Pines".Later Hutchinson, owner of a flour mill at Glenroy,bought the property and renamed it Oak Park.
Oak Park Reserve - Victorian Heritage Database
Remnant trees on the site, including an oak, cypresses and peppercorn trees, have been estimated to date from Fawkner's residency. The park's close proximity ...
Fawkner was no great lover of native vegetation and the document recording his lease of portion of the property to his father in 1841 states that the lessee: "shall and will fell cut down grub up and otherwise destroy and remove all the native indigenous trees wood scrub and underwood whatsoever growing or to grow upon the said land or any part thereof except fruit trees or such trees as are or shall be marked...for ornamental hedgerows or boundary marks." (P.17 BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.)
P.W.Welsh who handled sales of village blocks for Fawkner "inferred that Fawkner's planting of orchard, gardens and nurseries was in someway a village work (instead of being part of his private farm,which it was): etc."
(P.17 BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.)
I wonder if the following trees had been intended for "village works" and Fawkner changed his mind in order to get a certificate of discharge on his insolvency.Apart from a variety of fruit trees, they included:
Forest Trees, of two sorts, Oak and Maple; these trees were also imported from England, at great cost and risk, and at severe loss, only about twenty remain on sale. As these trees will only be taken from the ground upon the order of the buyer, they may ensure their good state, and as they will not be liable to damage by sea water, or the saline deposition incident to a sea voyage, and as every care will be taken to preserve the roots as perfect as possible, parties buying will find these cheaper even than those sold by auction, for there they
must pay for them, faulty or good.Orders will be received at my residence, in Flinders Lane by Mr E. Vernon, Grocer; or at the Orchard, Pascoevale, by Mr Wm. Martin. Trees ordered and paid for will be delivered in town (on Saturdays only ) free of expense to the purchaser.
(P.4, Geelong Advertiser and Squatters' Advocate, 16-5-1846.)
The earliest use of Pascoe Vale in family notices was in 1854 in the death notice of a pioneer who had settled in Victoria in 1803.
WHAT'S THAT ITELLYA, HAVE YOU GONE STARK RAVING MAD? DOES THE YEAR 1835 MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? EVEN THE HENTYS WERE WAY AFTER 1803. HANG ON,DO YOU MEAN THE SORRENTO SETTLEMENT?
On the 24th inst., at Pascoe Vale, John Fawkner, Esq., in his 84th year, father of J. P. Fawkner,Esq., M.L.C.
SEE COMMENTS RE HENRY, FRED AND WILLIAM GODFREY.
The two Purves brothers built bridges in Van Dieman's Land before coming to the Port Phillip District. James,an architect, came out first and his brother, Peter,who was a stone mason,joined him after a tragedy befell him.Each brother had a son named James, but James Jnr was usually referred by his full name (as below.) Purves Rd in Rosebud may have been granted to James the architect but Peter's descendants lived there.
Port Phillip Apostle No 6 James Purves, landowner
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James Purves was born at Berwick-on-Tweed on 25 May 1813 and arrived in Van Diemens Land in 1837, moving across to Phillip in 1839. He commenced practising as an architect and building surveyor that year with an office in Bourke Street opposite Mr Allans (whoever he was). He obtained an auctioneers license in the same year- possibly thats where he met Welsh? A different address is given for his office- Little Collins Street, next to McLeans store; then another notice that he moved into McLeans store itself. Either way, he is located in the commercial centre of town. He sold the auctioneers business to H. H. Atkinson in 1841, and maintained another architect office in Collins Street from 1840. His private residence was in Newtown (now Fitzroy) in 1840, then Richmond in 1844 and 1845. He married Caroline, the daughter of Thomas Guillod of London in October 1842. His son, James Liddell Purves, who was a barrister, columnist, free trade parliamentarian and member of the Australian Natives Association, was born in Swanston Street in 1843.
Theres his son. A fine upstanding man he is too.
James Purves Snr. is listed as holding land with Chirnside at the Loddon River and Geelong in 1840, then took a license to run stock in the Portland Bay district with Chisholm in 1842-3 (but I doubt if it is John Moffat Chisholm, who seems to have always used all three names; there are other Chisholms in Port Phillip) . He also held land in Western Port with Dixon 1842-3; and with E. W. Hobson. He won a prize for a horse at the first show, held on 3 March 1842 at the cattlemarket on the corner of Elizabeth and Victoria streets- a failure of a show, according to Garryowen, where the exhibits were a vast disappointment.
There is no evidence of much connection with the other Twelve Apostles. He seems to be quite active in leasing or purchasing properties in the early 1840s, especially during 1842 when the depression was kicking in, but there does not seem to be any further action after cutting his partnerships in 1843. Unlike the other Twelve Apostles, he had a profession to fall back on- perhaps this saved him from the insolvency that engulfed the others. He joined with Fawkner and Chisholm in fighting the arrangements made to cover Ruckers debt once it all went pear-shaped. In September 1846 he helped fight a fire in a coach factory. By 1850 he was purchasing land again. He had a licence at Tootgarook- or is it Toolgaroop?- between 1850-69 where he became an importer and racehorse breeder and also at Traralgon between June 1853 and 1855.
He obviously had the money to send his son home to England for his education, his law degree and his Grand Tour. His son published the diary he wrote on the way home A Young Australians Log. I wonder if that gives any more information?
This is all so disjointed. Theres a Thomas and Henry Purves in Port Phillip at the time, who DO come out very strongly in Judge Willis favour, but I dont know if theyre connected to James Purves at all. Theres several mentions of Mr Purves in the newspaper, but Im not sure which one it is. And how and why did James Purves get involved in the Rucker scheme? Search me.
Peter Wilson wrongly states in ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD that the Rosebudwas owned by Edward Hobson and was uninsured when she went aground inland of the foreshore bike path at Rosebud. (A plaque at the spot explains how the site of the stranding was determined.) James Purves had insured the vessel and there are many articles on trove about some of the insurers trying to avoid paying their share,claiming necessary documentation had not been provided and the stranding occurred on the EAST coast of the bay,which was not covered by the policy. Just prior to the stranding in 1855,James tried to sell the vessel and presumably he was the owner.
Extract from my journal about James Purves at Fingal.
WHICH JAMES PURVES?
The two men credited with having started the breeding of thoroughbreds in Victoria were James Purves and William Cross Yuille,the latter the author of the Stud Book. I was surprised to discover this as Hurtle Fisher and his brother, Charles B.Fisher (the father of the Australian Turf according to MARIBYRNONG:ACTION IN TRANQUILITY), had captured this distinction in my mind.
This James Purves died at Richmond on 12-6-1878. (P.1s, Launceston Examiner, 6-7-1878.) He owned Chinton, east of Mt Macedon and Tootgarook on the Mornington Peninsula. Neither is mentioned in this obituary but they were in other obituaries. James Purves had a brother named Peter but you'd never know it unless you read Hec Hanson's MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN. He was a mason and followed his architect brother to Van Diemans Land when his wife died shortly after giving birth to their first child, James. Leaving the baby in the care of a relative, the heartbroken Peter joined his brother and combining their skills they built many of Tasmania's early bridges.
THE ARCHITECT'S SON.
Where did "Liddle" come from? Perhaps here.
Purves, Margaret 59
Born: Abt 1757, Berwick
Marriage: Liddle, James 5 Jun 1773, Coldingham, , Berwick, Scotland 141
Purves, James Liddell (18431910)
by Marian Aveling
This article was published in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 5, (MUP), 1974
James Liddell Purves (1843-1910), lawyer and nationalist, was born on 23 August 1843 in Swanston Street, Melbourne, eldest son of James Purves and his wife Caroline. His father, an early Victorian colonist from Berwick-upon-Tweed, became an importer, race-horse breeder and owner of the station Toolgaroop near Western Port. Purves attended several Melbourne schools, including the Diocesan Grammar School, but his health was poor and he was sent to Europe in 1855 to complete his education. His diary of the voyage to London was later published as A Young Australian's Log (1856); it shows precocious powers of expression and observation. He continued his studies in Germany and Belgium, obtaining a good knowledge of German and French, and in King's College School, London. In 1861 he matriculated and entered Trinity College, Cambridge, to study medicine, but soon changed to law at Lincoln's Inn, London. For four years he studied, travelled widely on the Continent and at times supported himself by writing literary and documentary articles for several London journals and newspapers. In 1865 he was called to the Bar and, in December 1866 on his return to Melbourne, was admitted to the Victorian Bar.
This varied education produced quick intelligence, a fluent and often brilliant tongue, and great charm, his influence on colonial opinion and practice being based less on intellect than on personality and style. In the late 1860s he contributed a witty column, 'Talk of the Town', to the Melbourne Herald, and became co-editor of the Australian Jurist. His rapid rise in the legal profession showed a special flair for spectacular cases: in 1871 the defence of a client accused of stealing a fortune in gold coin; in the mid-1870s a gold-mining case involving suspected fraud; and in 1878 the defence of a respectable softgoods firm charged with smuggling by the protectionist Berry government. From the early 1880s he undertook a number of will and divorce cases, all closely reported in the press, and was briefed to appear in almost every important jury case. He was retained as standing counsel by a large number of public and private institutions, including the Victorian railways, in the defence of which he appeared in the long series of compensation cases arising out of the railway disasters of 1881 and of 1886, when he was appointed Q.C. and acknowledged as the leader of the Victorian Bar. A colleague later commented acidly that Purves was master of all trades and deficient only in law.
Certainly his success depended less on abstract legalities than on his ready grasp of technical skills such as surgery and mining, and on his ability to make disputed points clear to a jury by apt, homely and often humorous similes. His greatest contribution to forensic law in Victoria was the development of a unique style of cross-examination, a persistent and acute questioning by which a hostile witness could be led to prejudice his own case. Although privately a kindly man to whom many younger colleagues turned for assistance, Purves was notoriously brusque with witnesses, and when a doctor whose reputation he had impugned in court later knocked him into the gutter in Collins Street, public sympathy was not all with the lawyer.
Purves entered the Legislative Assembly in April 1872 as a free trader and constitutionalist for Mornington, and was soon known for his oratory. He was several times offered cabinet rank and regarded by some as a potential leader of the constitutionalists. A latent demagogue, Purves always admired Berry's powers of leadership. But his own talents inclined less to administration than to ideological debate; at the height of the constitutional crisis he once had to be forcibly rescued by friends from an attempt to sway a fiercely pro-Berry mob. In February 1880 he made an apparently quixotic decision to contest the working-class electorate of Footscray, was defeated and in July lost again in the Liberal stronghold of Maryborough and Talbot. He never stood for parliament again.
From the mid-1880s Purves's political talents were channelled through the Australian Natives' Association, which had been founded in 1871 as a friendly society and gradually extended its activities to include mutual improvement, debate and public demonstration on questions of national importance. Purves was not, as he and others often claimed, a founder of the association; he joined in 1872 but took no part in its affairs until 1884 when it began a series of protest meetings calling for British annexation in the Pacific. In his addresses to these meetings and later as president of the A.N.A., Purves developed a vague and ardent vision of Australia's future greatness which he placed sometimes within a renewed British empire, sometimes in glorious independence. During his presidency separatist elements within the A.N.A. pushed him and the association to the forefront of opposition to the Imperial Federation League in Victoria, but his attempt to establish a New South Wales A.N.A. failed when the republican movement in Sydney rejected his position as one of dual loyalty, to Australia and empire both. 'Emperor' Purves's two years as president of the A.N.A. in 1888-90 were marked more by oratorical fireworks than constructive leadership, but they confirmed the association's reputation within Victoria as a publicist organization with some political influence. Purves's oratory aroused in many of the younger generation a strong sense of responsibility for their country's development and a rather populist awareness of their own ability to direct it.
In the early 1890s Purves successfully defended the Age in two libel cases, of which the most famous and politically significant, Speight v. Syme, carried a great load of involved technical evidence; its hearing took 98 days and an appeal of 86 days was also lost. In this decade Purves was sporadically active in the long effort to persuade Victorians of the advantages of Federation, though pressure of business, sickness and his usual impatience with routine meetings kept him from the leadership. He failed to gain a place on the Victorian delegation to the Federal Convention of 1897 but was prominent in the dramatic crusading and canvassing in the last days before the first federal referendum.
Purves was also prominent in Victorian sporting circles as an owner of fine race-horses, a champion shot, and a keen lawn-tennis player and yachtsman. In 1875 he had married Annie Lavinia, daughter of R. Grice; she died in childbirth, and in 1879 he married Eliza Emma, daughter of W. A. Brodribb. He had one son by his first marriage and two sons and three daughters by the second. On his death on 24 November 1910 the Victorian Bar mourned a leader and inspiration, the A.N.A. its greatest prophet.
This rootsweb page states that James Liddle Purves (its subject) was born in CAMPBELLFIELD! The Australian Dictionary of Biography article states that the architect's first-born son was born in Swanston St., Melbourne.
Father: James PURVES c: 21 Jun 1814 in Coldingham,Berwickshire,Scotland
Mother: Caroline GUILLOD
Marriage 1 Eliza Emma BRODRIBB b: 1856 in Deniliquin,New South Wales,Australia
Married: 1879 in Paddington,New South Wales,Australia
Has No Children Eleanor Alison PURVES b: 1883 in Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children Philip Brodribb PURVES b: 1886 in Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children Eliza Mary PURVES b: 1880 in South Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children Godfrey Liddle PURVES b: 1881 in Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children Beatrice Annie Ethel PURVES b: 1890 in East Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children William Richard Walter PURVES b: 1894 in East Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
Marriage 2 Annie Lavinia GRICE b: 1854 in Collingwood,Victoria,Australia
Has No Children James George PURVES b: 1876 in Collingwood,Victoria,Australia
THE BARRISTER'S HOUSE.
East Melbourne, Clarendon Street 036, Mosspennoch | East ...
Mosspennock was built in 1881 for James Liddell Purves, Q.C. and was designed by Charles Webb. It is unusual for the curved glass in its front bow windows.
MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN.
This is the life story of Hec Hanson,the great grandson of THE STONE MASON,PETER PURVES. I may one day write a journal about Hec's story but here I will confine myself to the genealogy provided in the book.
P.21. My maternal great-grandfather Peter Purves was born in 1802,in Berwick upon Tweed in Scotland. He was a mason,as is indicated on his tombstone at Point Nepean.(It's still there!) Peter married his sweetheart Barbara Scott,in March 1835,and on 29th September 1835,while living in Pilgrim Street, Newcastle-on-Tyne,England,she gave birth to a son-James. It was only one month later,that Barbara died. After this tragedy,Peter left his son in the care of an aunt,Mrs Russell,back across the border in Berwick upon Tyne, and followed his brother James,to Van Dieman's Land (Tasmania). On this island,he tried to overcome his sorrow by working with his brother, building bridges.
Young James was eager to get to know his father, so at the age of eighteen he set sail for Australia aboard the "Thomas Lowry". He arrived in 1852, and joined his father and uncle at Tootgarook Station,on the Mornington Peinsula. The brothers had been managing this run since 1850*,with Peter getting credit for giving it the name Tootgarook**, after an aboriginal word meaning "the croaking of frogs". Peter Purves died in March 1860,so his son managed to be with him for eight years.
(Peter's brother James went on to own Tootgarook Station and had a son called James Liddle Purves, who became a well-known barrister and politician.)
Two years after his father's death,young James married Emily Caroline Quinan***, who was born at Broken River (Benalla)in Victoria. They lived at Tootgarook,which is between Rosebud and Rye,and had ten children.My mother Frances Ada Elizabeth was the ninth child and was born at Tootgarook in 1883.
* Edward Hobson was supposed to have held the Tootgarook Run until 1850 but from about 1844 was managing a run for his brother,Dr. Edmund Hobson, which Edward named "River of Little Fish" (Traralgon.) Charles Hollinshed suggested in LIME LAND LEISURE that JAMES Purves might have been managing Tootgarook in the 1840's.
**I have seen several alternative names for the run.
***Emily's father, Robert Denison Quinan,assisted by his wife,Emma, established a private school at Dromana on 12-11-1860, catering for about 25 pupils and due to a petition signed by Robert Rowley and many other Dromana residents,his school became a National School on 1-6-1861. To supplement his income,he did book-keeping for the Kangerong Road Board but finding a discrepancy of five pounds he sought a loan from Richard Watkin of the Dromana Hotel. When the loan was refused, he committed suicide.(Pages 130-1,A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
N.B. He was from Dublin and was wrongly called Robert Dublin Quinan in the book. Many articles about the suicide,but not the cause, can be found on trove.
FAMILY TREE. (I can't use the usual lay-out.)
James Purves,son of Peter, married Emily Caroline Quinan in 1862 (15-6-1862 according to the wedding notice.)
James was born on 29-9-1835 at Newcastle-on-Tyne,England and died on 6-11-1913 at Rosebud. Emily wasborn at Broken River (Benalla)and died on 4-8-1910 at Rosebud. (Rosebud=Greenhills in Purves Rd.)
Their children, with birth, death,and marriage details, were:
1. James (Jim), Pt Nepean 1863, 1927, bachelor.
2. George LiddlePt Nepean 1865, 1892, ?
3. Emily b.1867 (3-11-1867 Trove), d. 1947 W.A., m.1899 Gustav Frederick Phillip Lenz.
4. Lily, 1870 Tootgarook, 1938, spinster.
5. Robert 1872 Toot., 1937,m.Emma Mason.
6. Walter, 1875 Toot., 1935, m.1904 Leila F.Cotton.
7. Barbara Scott, 1878 Toot., 1934 Dromana, m.1915 James Wilson*.
8. Peter, 1880 Toot., 1940 buried at Rye, m. Isabella Cairns.**
9. Frances Ada Elizabeth, 1883 Toot., 1951 Tawonga, Vic., m. 1906 Alfred George Hanson.
10. Ernest, 1885 Dromana, 1886.
*See my Sarah Wilson journal. See P.3,Mornington Standard 19-4-1902 for the Laurissen letter of thanks re Bobby Wilson split skull.
Born in Victoria, Australia in 1886 to James Thompson Cairns and Johanna Russell. Isabella married Peter Purves. She passed away on 1983 in Victoria, Australia. (See my CAIRNS GENEALOGY journal.)
ALEC. RASMUSSEN,TULLAMARINE, 1909- CIRCA 1929.
Alec Rasmussen transferred from Couangault, south of Gisborne,to Tullamarine S.S.2613 in 1909 and taught there for nearly twenty years. His picnics at Alexander McCracken's Cumberland(probably for his pupils but involving the whole community)were just a small part of his service to Tullamarine. Alec was spoken of in such glowing terms, at the 1989 and 1998 Tullamarine reunions, by every one of his former pupils, that I became infected. My attempts to have the Tullamarine Reserve in Melrose Drive, which the community gained because of Alec, has failed but I hope to have a playground on that reserve or nearby named after him.
MR. HARDIMAN,GRADE 4, ASCOT VALE STATE SCHOOL, CIRCA 1951.
The old Social Studies course started with the family with horizons expanding every year,Grade 5 studying Australia. The Grade 4 focus was on the local community. Kidding Mr Hardiman didn't get me fired up with his stories about the past. If he hadn't, I wouldn't be writing my journals. I thought of him and decided to write this journal a few nights ago. Mr Hardiman explained that Bank St,in which the school is still situated,got its name from the bank on the Mount* Rd corner which was built during the gold rush. I vaguely remember seeing 1869 on the bank and naturally concluded that it was not the original bank building. What I found the other night was an article about the E.S.&A. bank being built on the site of a hay and corn store in (1869?) I've spent an hour trying to find it again,to no avail.
Without the resources available today, Mr Hardiman's mistake can be understood, and his slight debit on this account is completely outweighed by the love of history that he engendered in me.
MR (KEVIN?) GOOD, ASCOT VALE STATE SCHOOL,CIRCA 1952 and 1961.
Phrases, clauses, similes,etc. seemed strange stuff when Mr Good introduced them but I picked them up.He must have done a good job because, blow me down, he was the English lecturer at Melbourne Teachers' College when I arrived. And the first thing he did was to administer a Grammar test.Guess who blitzed the field.
MR WILLIAMS, KENSINGTON STATE SCHOOL, CIRCA 1952. Bagpipes.
After Dad died we moved to Kensington and attended school there from the start of third term (early September.)
If the class worked hard and behaved well,Mr Williams would perform his party trick,playing the bagpipes on his violin. I don't remember much else,but we were extremely industrious angels!
GEORGE MURRAY,UNI HIGH,1950'S. Umpiring,dedication.
By RON CARTER
Daryl Foster had the laugh on his University High
School teacher George Murray yesterday.
During school hours George is chief, but on the
cricket field it's everyone for himself.
Daryl plays district cricket with Essendon, and
Murray is Footscray pennant team's captain-coach.
For more than a season Daryl, a medium-pace
bowler, has been trying to get George's wicket in a
They met again yesterday in a U.H.S. firsts versus
the seconds and teachers, and Daryl got his wish . . .
he had'George caught at point.
Although it wasn't a pennant match it was still
a terrific "kick" for young Daryl.
, [In the picture above Daryl Foster (centre) smiles
as his teacher, George Murray (left walks back to the
pavilion after falling victim to his 16-year-old pupil.
George Karanichols (right), another University High
student, who is in St. Kilda's pennant team, also
thought it was a "great joke."] (P.18, Argus,3-11-1955.)
George K.(see below*) was just one of the Uni. High lads who benefited from George Murray's refinement of their natural talent. Tony Leigh,whom I brilliantly leg glanced for 4 in a house match (snicked with my eyes closed in absolute fear), played under George Murray at Footscray. Arthur K. also made the grade in cricket a few years later and I think he also played footy for North Melbourne.
*The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 16 February 1955 Section: SPORTING SECTION p 2 Article about George K. making the St Kilda 1sts aged 15 and some of the other Uni High teenagers also playing at the top level. Daryl Foster was later the W.A. state coach for many years.
MURRAY INWOOD (MELBOURNE TEACHERS' COLLEGE.)
The Commanding Officer-Faraday St. Donkey Serenade.
Murray didn't teach me, being a fellow student at teachers' college, but I would have loved to be in his class; it would have been fun! I knew him well, being in the same group and sitting next to him in the tenor section of the choir. A Korean War vet., Murray was well established (at Maribyrnong I think) and threw parties for the members of our group. At every one, Murray would be badgered until he sang The Donkey Serenade,which was just made for his superb voice.
At the start of our second year, the whisper went around to stay on the second floor and keep a lookout. The bell rang and the new students gathered in the assembly area outside. Suddenly a commanding voice started barking orders to straighten lines,improve posture and so on. Stifled sniggers from upstairs seemed about to give the game away but when the column was marched, to Murray's "left, right" across Swanston St to the old Faraday State School, we laughed our heads off.
PETER DUNLEAVEY, KENSINGTON STATE SCHOOL, CIRCA 1968. Aug. 22.
During the 1960's, Kensington changed considerably. The flats overlooking the South Ken. flat, now Holland Park, had brought more disadvantaged families into the area, many struggling to learn a new language. When Bryan Quirk of Carlton Football Club had his jaw broken in a game, I took over the coaching of the cricket team. The boys loved our after school practice sessions, the same later with footy, and it was then that I discovered how many of the children were latch-key children; they arrived home to an empty house because both parents were working.One of the boys, Kevin,was so disturbed that he took to one of his parents with an axe and he was just one of many troubled children. It was depressing so a bit of levity would not go astray.
We locked the deputy principal and the infant mistress in the tiny strongroom in the first production of the big brother house. But the funniest thing ever was Peter Dunleavey's classic impromptu one -liner.
The staff kitchen was separate from the staff room and if you had forgotten cutlery,you had to go back to get it. I think the sick bay was between the two rooms. One day I'd heated my lunch but had forgotten the cutlery. When I returned,my lunch was missing. My colleagues kindly showed me where it was,in my locked classroom! You guessed it,my key had also disappeared from the staff room table.
On the Friday before my wedding, I was looking after two grades (of 36 or more),Maureen Ginifer being away and relieving teachers unheard of, when Peter came down and said that Quirky needed to see me. He wasn't in his room (his grade being probably at Art and Craft)so Peter said that he was probably in the staff room. As we walked past the sick bay two figures emerged like lightning to assist Peter in his dastardly purpose. I breathed a sigh of relief when I found they were only going to tie me up; far better than the usual buck's night prank.
I'd almost untied myself when a check by my assailants found the bonds needed attention. That had just been done when a girl from Maureen's class asked Peter if I was in the sick bay. "Yes,but he's tied up at the moment!" Ya gotta laugh!
There will be a reunion, (on April 26, 2014?), of descendants of George "Dod" Jennings and his wife, Hannah (nee Wiffen)to mark the 100th anniversary of the family's arrival in Rye. Details from Linda Berndt (nee Jennings)on 5985 8187 or firstname.lastname@example.org(email.)(DESPERATELY SEEKING,P.77,Herald Sun, 27-10-2013.)
Anything added here will be information that will probably not be in the book to be launched at the reunion.If you don't know what was buried with Dod and why, you obviously need to buy the book! As the digitised text has been corrected,I assume that Paul Jennings' attempt to water ski across Bass Strait will be mentioned.
SEE COMMENT 1 RE A MISTAKE IN ONE OF MY JOURNALS ABOUT A JENNINGS-BRIGHT CONNECTION, (ACTUALLY JENNINGS-BLIGHT), WHICH I NEED TO FIND AND CORRECT.
Mr C. Jennings, the clever little rover of the Flinders football club, was married at Portsea on Wednesday, to Miss Tuck, second daughter of Mr John Tuck, of Portsea. (P.2,Mornington Standard, 3-6-1905, PERSONAL PARS.)
MR. J. TUCK.
The death occurred on July 4 of Mr. John Tuck, of Flinders, aged 86. Born at Rye, he was taken by his
parents to Flinders when six years of age, and lived there for the remainder of his life.Burial took place in the Flinders cemetery on July 5. The Rev. Father O'Sullivan read the burial service.The casket was carried by Messrs. M.Baxter, J. Jennings, J. Mackay, and L. Mannix (sons-in-law). Mr. James Wilson, of Mornington, conducted the funeral.
(Frankston & Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 17 July 1936 p 4 Article.)
TO BE HELD IN THE FLINDERS PARK ON FRIDAY, JANUARY I, 1904.
OFFICE-BEARERS: PATRONS:- F. S. Grimwade,M.L.C., A. Downward Esq., M.L,A.; C. T. Cooke, Esq., H. Sharp. Esq., Robt. Anderson. Esq., J.P., J. E. Guest, Esq., and Jas. Simmonds*, Esq.
PRESIDENT-Cr Nowlan; VICE-PRESIDENTS-Messrs. T. E.M Darley and C. H. M. Planck; COMMITTEE-Messrs E. Dowie,
A. Delaney, H. Boyd. H. Farr, W. Purves, M.Higgins- L. Wilding, J. Riley. J. Symonds*, H. Hopcraft, S. Willett, Geo.Jennings, W. M'Intosh, and H. James. (P.5, Mornington Standard, 19-12-1903.)
Hannah Jennings,widow, of Rye,who died on July 26?, left by will dated May 4, 1933?, property of a gross value of L.3363? to her sons.(P.22, Argus,15-9-1934.)
JENNINGSHALL. On 26th February, at St. Andrew's Church of England, Rye, by the Rev. Godfrey Hughes, Claude Ernest, eldest son of Mr and Mrs E. Jennings, Rye Park, Rye, to Myrtle Annie, eldest daughter of Mrs C. J. Hall and the late Mr John Hall, "Montrose," Boolarra.(P.2,Morwell Advertiser, 9-5-1935.)
WOMEN'S HIKING RECORD.
What appears to be a hiking record for women is the achievement of Miss K. Jennings, of Rye, and Miss H. Nelson, of Warragul, who reached Horsham on Wednesday. Leaving Melbourne on Friday morning,April 13, they took the Western Highway to Stawell. ,Then, desiring to avail themselves of the opportunity of seeing the beauty of the Grampians, they made a detour through Hall'sGap, staying over night. Next day,they hiked over the mountain track toWartook, thence to Horsham, thus completing about 205 miles in six days.
The hikers appeared to be little the worse for their long trek. They are warmly grateful for the many kindnesses offered them by wayside dwellers and are most enthusiastic over the wild grandeur of the Grampians
scenery. (P.4,The Horsham Times,20-4-1934.)
I've researched the history of Somerville's Gomm family quite extensively with the aid of trove and Murray Gomm. During a four hour session one day he showed me a medal,which has now been donated to the recently renamed M.P.N.F.L.(now P.C.N.) and is on display at its office. At the age of about 35, in about 1950,George Gomm, Murray's father,started a milk round from a dairy he built opposite the pub in Flinders*. George and his brother,Billy, have been made legends of the Somerville Football Club.George could not continue to play for Somerville, because of the demands of his dairy and distance. Murray recalls that George helped to reform the Flinders Football Club and played a few games with them before finally retiring. Players in those days socialised with the opposition after the game, and George lured two of the friends he'd made from Rye to Flinders, Clarrie Jennings and Bob Rowley who were also near the end of their careers. Murray believes that Clarrie coached Flinders fairly successfully, possibly having won a premiership.
(*See THE BUTCHER, THE BAKER THE by Bruce Bennett.)
Unfortunately details in trove regarding Flinders and football in the 1950's have been difficult to find,except for the next John Coleman,Flinders' John Watson, who in 1956 was averaging a higher average of goals per game than Coleman had with Hastings. Records on the M.P.N.F.L. website are currently unavailable,so the above anecdote cannot be verified.
The Hindhope Estate was between Boneo Rd and First Avenue in Rosebud , extending south from the highway to include 50 First Ave and the Hope St house blocks.
HINDHOPE ESTATE (PART 3, First Ave, Thomas St, Rosebrook St), ROSEBUD,VIC., AUST.
Journal by itellya
The land north of McCombe St and east of Rosebrook St was referred to as section A in the 1919 assessments. This was the second stage of the subdivision first advertised in 1914, the 70 "seaside" lots north of McCombe St being placed on sale in 1913 when the Hindhope Villa had 39 acres of grounds remaining. As Section A was the rest of Hindhope except for 14 acres west of Rosebrook St,it can be concluded that the land east of Rosebrook St consisted of 25 acres. Frederick Allan Quinton bought many blocks near the Hindhope Villa block (lot 95 and 96) but Alexander Mackie Younger's first wife bought the 14 acres of grounds, which might account for the absence of lots 19 to 32 on the subdivision plan,which makes no mention of section A.
Those assessed in 1919 on land in section A were:
A.L.Adcock, Red Hill, 6, 7, N.A.V. 2 POUNDS!; H.Cairns 14, c/o Mrs Papper, 433 George St.,Fitzroy; Mace, Wangaratta, 84, 85,86; W.R.Mullens 17, 18, c/o Jennings Rosebud; J.Patterson,Rosebud, 13; Mrs Emily June Ada Nethercote, Hawthorn, 12.
Not all of the above gained title. H.Cairns could have been Harry or Helen, neither of whom died for some time so the partly paid-off block may have been sold because of financial difficulties or an offer that couldn't be refused. The Mullens and Jennings family were related by marriage as shown in part 1*. L.Adcock of Red Hill was occupying 42 acres and buildings on crown allotment 20C Wannaeue (at Melway 190 D 11-12) in 1919. I can find no Cairns/Papper connection so perhaps the Fitzroy family was leasing the block. Mr Mace's full name is below. (*Pasted below.)
All lots below were transferred from the developer, Arthur A. Thomas to the buyer.
SOUTH SIDE OF McCOMBE ST.
LOT -- DATE--- TRANSFERRED TO.--- FRONTAGE--- NOW
1 --- 14-9-1923--- Elizabeth Lyng --- 100' 10"--6 First Ave.
2 --- 14-9-1923--- Elizabeth Lyng---- 50'------As above.
3 --- 27-3-1922--- Margaret Agnes Mott--50'------No.1 McCombe St.
4 --- 20-5-1924--- Arthur Nichols ----- 50'------No.3.
5 --- 8-7-1925--- Charles Nichols -----50'------No.5.
6 ---15-11-1916--- Leonard Frank Adcock-50'------No.7.
7 ---15-11-1916--- Leonard Frank Adcock-50'------No.9.
8--- 25-8-1924 --- William Alderson *1--50'------Unit 1 and 2, No.11 McCombe St
9 ---25-11-1937---Harold Thomas Devine--50-------No.13.
10-- 7-8-1921 --John Forrest Kilpatrick-50'------No.15 west to middle of drive.
11-- 7-8-1921 --John Forrest Kilpatrick- 50'-----No.17 and west half of drive.
12--16-4-1920-Emily Irene Ada Nethercote- 50'----No. 19.
13---27-4-1921--- James Kilgour Rae --- 50'------1/21 McCombe St (west to pillar between carports), and 5 and 6 of 1A Rosebrook St behind.
14---18-11-1921--Alfred Freeland Gibbs---50'-----2/21 McCombe St (east to pillar between carports),and 3 and 4 of 1A Rosebrook,fronting Rosebrook.
-------------ROSEBROOK STREET (THE NORTHERN 160 FEET TO THE BEND)-----------
15--- 9-3-1921 --Gladys Iris Jennings-50'-----Plaza Car Park to east kerb of entry/exit separator.
16--- 9-3-1921----Gladys Iris Jennings---50'-----to diagonal crack in footpath west of entry/exit.
17---19-12-1923---Edward Adolph Mattner--50'----west to pedestrian crossing sign.
18---19-12-1923---Edward Adolph Mattner--50'----west to double veranda pole outside post office.
*1. William Alderson lived on a Rosebud Fishing Village block, and being a Carlton supporter, was responsible for the colours of the Rosebud Footy Club jumper. It was changed to incorporate a light horizontal panel for one year because old Mr Dark had trouble spotting the players in the late afternoon but a return to the Alderson design was demanded.
*2.The Jennings family's background is discussed in my journal about connections between the Rosebud and Geelong areas.
JENNINGS CONNECTIONS (FROM HINDHOPE PART 1. which specifies the land bought north of McCombe St. by Gladys.)
ALWAY-JENNINGS.-The marriage ofBetty Irene, elder daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Alway, Hillside avenue, East
Malvern, to Frederick Rowland, youngest son of the late Mr. Walter Jennings and Mrs.G.Jennings, Rosebud, will be celebrated at St. John's Church, Finch street, East Malvern, on Monday, April 15, at 5.30 p.m. (P.10, Argus, 12-4-1946.)
Mr. G. E. Jennings, who conducts the dairy at Rosebud, and serves Rye area, contemplates carrying out extensions to his business premises in Rosebud, in the near future. When these alterations are made it will be the most modern dairy on the Peninsula. (P.6, Standard, Frankston,28-2-1946.)
Miss Ruth Ferris, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Ferris, was recently. married to Mr. Jack Jennings, youngest
son of Mr. and Mrs. Jennings, of Rosebud. The ceremony took place at the Church of England. The wedding breakfast was held at the home of the bride's grand-parents. The honeymoon is being spent at Healesville.
(P.3, Standard, Frankston, 5-10-1944.) It is Jack's statue that stands outside the former (most modern)dairy on the east corner of Rosebud Pde.
JENNINGS (nee Gladys Mullen). On the 10th November, at Nurse McInne's private hospital,Box Hill, the wife of Walter Gordon Jennings,of "Dalgabeena," Blackburn a son (Gordon Roberts).(P.11, Argus,12-12-1914.) So that's why the Mullen assessment was to be sent to Mrs Jennings in 1919!
MULLEN.-On March l8, at Hobart, Lt.-Col. L. M. Mullen, loving brother of Gladys (Mrs. W. G. Jennings. Rosebud,
Vic). -Duty nobly done.(P.2, Argus, 20-3-1943.)
WON'T SUBMIT. TRIED TO ADD AS COMMENTS ON EARLY SYDNEY RDS JOURNAL AND HERE, A TOTAL OF ABOUT 10 TRIES. SO FRUSTRATING! WILL TRY LATER.
By deleting William Smith's 1850 advertisement for the ORIGINAL Old Queen Inn at PASCOEVALE,which mentions the link to the new line of road near Somerton Inn,and some of my commentary, I was able to post the arguments for Cliffords Rd being the link in comments under my journal about EARLY ROADS TO SYDNEY. The whole, and a similar discussion about the early route to Geelong (fords, punts, bridges)has been posted on facebook,entitled EARLY ROADS OUT OF MELBOURNE.
I prefer to post my research on family tree circles, so it is more accessible to family historians, but instead of wasting days trying to submit, I might have to use the facebook option more often (when such frustration sets in.) Private message me if you would like to see my facebook posts, which are all about history.
Hey xxx, Tulla Primary are having a back to school day on the 1st November 9.30-11.30. Wasn't sure if you are aware of it. THAT'S NEXT FRIDAY!
How do you write thousands of pages of history in half a dozen pages? Well, I'll give it a try. Any pioneers mentioned can probably be found in itellya's journals on Family Tree circles by googling the surname and Tullamarine. e.g. Parr, Tullamarine.
THE PARRS OF "THE ELMS" AND "ANNANDALE" AT TULLAMARINE, VIC., AUST.
Journal by itellya
With the Nash and Wright families, the Parrs were mainstays of the Tullamarine Methodist Church. The family also gave great service to the Keilor Shire Council with James Henry serving as President six times and his son, Bill, four times. James and his wife were known by locals as Da and Ma Parr. James and later his son, Sam, farmed The Elms (5,F/10) and Bill lived n/w of the west end of Sharps Rd (15, D/1) on part of Annandale which was not absorbed into the Arundel Closer Settlement, keeping the name of grocer Annands grant for his farm. The Parrs left England in 1853, going to New Zealand before arriving in Australia with Ann Parr seeming to have lost her husband during that time. The family lived in Tullamarine until The Elms was bought for Airport Purposes in about 1960. More information in my Before The Jetport.
The success of the Back to Tullamarine reunions of 1989 and 1998 was chiefly due to Winnie Lewis, daughter of Sam Parr (the first beardless man one oldtimer ever saw.)
The first school in our area was supposed to have been running at Springs in 1850. This could have been near Tullamarine or Keilor Rd, because both areas were given the same locality name. Imagine going to the wrong one! Soon the area near Keilor Rd was called Springfield.
The 1850 school was most likely near the "Governor's house" on Spring Creek between Beverage Drive and the Western Ring Road. J.F.L.Foster owned the land between Keilor Park Drive (formerly Fosters Rd) and the river and his older brother William owned land on both sides of Sharps Rd as far east as Broadmeadows Rd. William went home and John became owner of the lot.
When Governor Latrobe became sick and retired early, John Foster and then the son of merino breeder,John Macarthur, acted as Governor until Governor Hotham arrived. The Fosters had been squatting near Tullamarine by 1840 when they were issued a lease for Leslie Park; John called his grant near the river "Leslie Banks."
The first school actually in Tullamarine , Wesleyan School 632, was on an acre obtained from John Foster near the bend in Cherie St. and started in 1855. Seafield School, on the south side of Grants Rd right where it would cross the north-south runway (if you could still drive to McNabs Rd),and the Tullamarine Island School (west side of Glenloeman Rd) were started in 1859.
The land between Broadmeadows Rd and the Moonee Ponds Creek became Camp Hill, owned by Eyre Evans Kenny after whom two streets were named in Broadmeadows Township (Westmeadows.) It went north to Camp Hill Park (across Mickleham Rd from the 711 service station.) Kenny sold the triangle west of Melrose Drive and soon Gretna Green was being advertised for sale in lots of about 20 acres (actually 26.) A little girl who grew upon Camp Hill in the 1860's was Pattie Brown who married Alfred Deakin, the father of Federation (with Parkes.) In about 1940, a fellow called Scott renamed the farm as Gowanbrae.
The land on both sides of Melrose Drive between the Derby St corner and Melbourne Airport was granted to John Pasoe Fawkner and John Carre Riddell. They swapped bits that crossed Melrose Drive (Macedon/Deep Creek/Bulla/Lancefield Rd over the years) so that Fawkner's land was on the Keilor side and Riddell's on the Broadmeadows side. Riddell and his partner,Hamilton, called their land,which went east to Mickleham Rd, the Camieston Estate which they divided into small farms and acre blocks in Hamilton Terrace, which was bounded by Derby St as far north as Greenhill St.
Just south of the Derby St. corner was the Lady of the Lake Hotel and a farm called Broombank (Millar Rd area.) Two little O'Nial girls watched Robert O'Hara Burke's expedition in 1860 through the Cape Broom hedge as it passed by. These were on the north east corner of John Foster's land and soon after, the Junction hotel was built; it was closed in about 1929 because of the antics of such as Squizzie Taylor and less criminal drunks, later becoming Cec .and Lily Green's Green's Corner shop and petrol station,the Mobil Service Station and now 711.
Two farms were north of Camp Hill,Viewpoint,to the Lackenheath Drive corner and Stewarton, to Foreman St,the southern boundary of Broadmeadows Township. Edmund Dunn of Viewpoint was a Wesleyan Trustee but felt no guilt about leaving his farm in different ways to avoid the toll gate, which had earlier been south of Gretna Green,near Sharps Rd.Edmund sued the Melbourne Hunt for trampling his crops and terrifying his ewes.
One of the first occupants of Stewarton was Peter McCracken,there 1846-1855 before moving to his Kensington Park dairy (later occupied by W.S.Cox until subdivision in 1882 until subdivision caused his move to Moonee Valley) and then Ardmillan at Moonee Ponds. It was renamed Gladstone circa 1892 and is now the northern 777 acres of Gladstone Park/Gardens.
Exact locations and extensive detail of the hotels near Tullamarine are given in itellya's journal about HOTELS NEAR TULLAMARINE. They were the Travellers' Rest,Lady of the Lake,Beach Tree and Inverness.
Early pioneers on our side of the Moonee Ponds Creek included James Sharp(1867) and Maurice Crotty (1860) south of Sharps Rd on The Springs, the Williamsons (Fairview, 400 acres of Foster land across Sharps Rd, Camp Hill, Arundel Closer Settlement block and the Keilor Park Recreation Reserve, ), Anderson,Parr, Wright, John Cock (my great grandfather) who arrived in 1864 as a servant indentured to John Hall (Southwaite i.e. Strathmore Heights) Spiers (Peter committed suicide), McNabs and Grants (of Oakbank and Seafield) of Ayrshire breeding fame, Macolm Ritchie of Aucholzie and Gowrie Park (I named Gowrie Park Drive in the airport, this farm was west of Payne's triangular pig farm "Scone" now occupied by the terminal building), the Mansfields near Mansfields Rd,Duncan and Thompson,grantees of Gowrie Park, James Lane,on Gowrie Park when it was first used as a landing field etc. On the west side of Mickleham Rd,were the Junction Estate (mainly owned circa 1970 by the family of horse fanatic Katie Butterworth, one of my Tulla students.)
Oops, I've slipped into the 1970's so I might as well stay there after I get to the Westmeadows Footy Ground. The Junction Estate, traditionally linked with the Junction Hotel, now includes North Edge, and Andlon and Londrew Courts. The land from just south of Freight Rd to the creek was Chandos and in 1902 John Cock subdivided it into three parts, Wright's Strathconnan, Bill Lockhart's Springburn and Percy Judd's Chandos Park. Bamford later bought Judd's farm and built a timber house that is now surrounded by brick houses.
At Kensington, I used to ask my students observation questions such as where the nearest grass was. Most came up with a logical answer: Bellair Street. It was in the school spouting! There wasn't a blade on the ground and with so many students any grass with the strength to germinate in asphalt would have been soon been trampled.
Having bought a house and land package at Tulla for $13 000, I applied for transfer to the school there. I fell in love with the school at first sight; all that grass,with a tree-lined perimeter. In my first year I saw one of the LTC (Light timber Construction) clad with bricks and then the other. The LTC'S were probably installed at Conders Lane during the 1950's when many migrant families joined Leo Dineen, Ron Langtip , Ron Gregg and Sid Hedger on Mansfield's Triangle. School 2613 teachers, the last being Tom Dunne, had to deal with overcrowding as well as language difficulties. The old 1884 school house was obviously not considered to be worth transporting to Dalkeith Avenue in 1961.
Two activities regarding teaching at Tulla are fresh in my memory. One was team -teaching the grade 4's with Graeme Knott. I suggested the idea soon after Graeme arrived and we decided just before Easter to give it a go. It worked a treat with one supervising about two thirds of the double grade, and helping individuals as they did set work, while the other took small groups for, Spelling and Maths etc, where discussion was necessary. Our roles reversed frequently.
The other involved The Sun's 1034 road safety program. (Actually it might have been 1064, 1034 sounds a bit dangerous!) With stopwatches and intricate calculation by yours truly,groups could sit a certain distance apart outside the school, and as a car approached, a hand would be raised and then dropped swiftly as the car drew level at which point the stop watch would start at the other end (probably 176 yards away.) In this way we determined the speed of each car, did graphs, averages etc. The comments made by the children as they watched two bus drivers having a drag past us showed that the road safety message had got home. The only danger to the children was choking to death.
The width of the sealed middle of Lancefield, Sharps and Broadmeadows Roads was about as wide as a car, so if two cars approached each other one side of each car hit the shoulder,producing a massive cloud of dust. Sharps Road had shoulders so steep that the above action risked a roll-over. It would have taken decades for Keilor Council to construct these roads but smart operator,Cr Leo Dineen, ensured they were made at little cost to the council and in very quick time, airport workers having threatened to strike.
Sport was big for the children, Marty Allison and Graeme Pearson coaching footy,the Dineens and Petersens taking little Aths, all sporting groups starting via the youth Club where Ken Boots, Trev. and Val Mason and Dave Axon were prominent.
The Kindergarten Association was active raising funds to get the kinder built, with the Paper Drive, which would not have been so successful without Noel Grist and his truck, the Balls at the memorial hall and the Gala Days on the unmade oval (women's footy match,bike-a-thon on grass etc.)
The Thomas family had been on James Sharp's Hillside since about 1940,calling it Carinya Park,and their Tullamarine Pony Club attracted many students from our school such as Katie Butterworth and Pam Gregg,the latter however becoming a teacher rather than a jockey.
OTHER SOURCES RE SUBURBAN TULLAMARINE.
THE KELLY GANG AT TULLAMARINE. (VIC., AUST.
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GREEN'S CORNER, TULLAMARINE, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.
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TULLAMARINE, THE SUBURB, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.
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DALKEITH AND PERCY'S COWS.(LOFT DAWSON
The 400 acre Fairview fronted Sharps Rd on the north side,west of Broadmeadows Rd. James Harrick divided it into two farms of 200 acres, known as Dalkeith and Brightview. All the housing and the school are on Dalkeith whose owners were George Mansfield, Ernie Baker, Tommy Loft (who had the Junction Hotel closed), Leslie King Dawson (after whom Dawson St was named) and Percy Hurren who arrived in 1951 after a stint as storekeeper and postmaster at Jones Corner, Moorooduc.
Tommy Loft subdivided the Eumarella, Gordon St area quite early but mainly his relatives such as the Exels and Scoones were assessed on the blocks. Gordon St was named after Tommy's grandson.
Brightview was the farm of Michael Reddan, from an early Bulla family. When the Reddans moved to Seafield, the Doyles took it over.
Conders Lane ran east-west across Fawkner's subdivision. State School 2613 was on its north corner,which is exactly the same spot as the north corner of Link Rd which runs just inside the west boundary of Sam Parr's Elm Farm.
Most of Tullamarine's small-farmer pioneers were Methodists and theirs was the only church built in Tullamarine. It was just north of Trade Park Rd on land that Charles Nash bought from John Foster.
THE PIONEERS BOARD, THE WAR MEMORIAL AND HISTORY WEEK.
Any pioneers that I have forgotten will be on the pioneers board. Much of the work of compiling the list would have been done by Alec Rasmussen, teacher at S.S.2613 for 20 years and secretary of the Tullamarine Progress Association for 30 years.
The war memorial is at the Dalkeith Ave corner courtesy of W.V.Murphy, known as Major Murphy, who moved it from Conders Lane after the school was relocated. He also relocated the memorial at Westmeadows (which had become a traffic hazard) and St Mary's from "Woodlands" to Bulla Township. Only names of those who paid the supreme sacrifice were inscribed after World War 2. They were my great uncle, Alf Cock of Glenview and a Doyle lad from Ristaro (fronting Sharps Rd west of the Fisher Grove houses.)
With two history treasures such as these, it would be a good history week project for senior pupils to compile a short history about some of Tullamarine's pioneering families. The same could be done in relation to Anzac Day.
THE CITY OF KEILOR RATES FEW MENTIONS IN A GOOGLE SEARCH. IT WILL NOW.
"In July 1975, when Keilor Council was sacked, and an administrator appointed,it was the first council to get the axe in the 133 years of local government in Victoria. (COUNCIL SACKINGS MAY GAIN FAVOUR, P.9, The Age,23-3-1981.)
Keilor was first incorporated as a road district on 3 March 1863. It became a shire on 22 December 1871, and was proclaimed a city on 29 April 1961. Its boundaries were relatively stable throughout its existence.
On 15 December 1994, the City of Keilor was abolished, and its area divided by the Maribyrnong River and the Albion-Jacana freight railway line; its eastern section was merged with the City of Essendon, to form the newly created City of Moonee Valley, while its western section was merged with parts of the City of Sunshine, including St Albans, to form the newly created City of Brimbank. Melbourne Airport and a small section of Tullamarine, north of Sharps Road, were transferred to the City of Hume.
The City of Keilor was divided into three wards, each electing three councillors:
Doutta Galla-Tullamarine Ward
Melbourne Airport (shared with the Shire of Bulla)
St Albans (shared with the City of Sunshine)
* Suburb gazetted since the amalgamation. (Wikipedia.)
The Keilor district celebrated three milestones and souvenirs were published for each, relying on anecdotes from old residents in 1950, but if my memory is correct,most of the 1961 and 1963 content was compiled by Garnet Price,the City Engineer, who obviously had a love for the area's history. Garnet had moved to Sunshine,I think, before the sacking, with Bill Carlyle now the City Engineer.
The celebrations were:
1950-Centenary of the proclamation of the Village of Keilor;
1961-Proclamation of the City of Keilor;
1863-Centenary of the municipality's beginnings as a Road Board.
I will start with the years before the sacking because I know that I will find plenty of information up to the 1950's on trove. You will find the following nowhere else.
The city's accountant was Charlie Nicholls, who with Cr Leo Dineen had been on the V.F.L. umpiring list and was one of the first council officers to whom Leo introduced me upon my election in 1974. His son, Matthew, is now a senior A.F.L. umpire and officiated in the 2013 grand final.
The Tullamarine Progress Association had good support from Keilor councillors,Leo Dineen attending almost every meeting and Cliff Harvie many times but not as regularly because he was a stalwart of the Tullamarine Youth Club held in the same esteem as Ken Boots,Dave Axon, Trev. and Val Mason etc., in the mind of those who knew. A year or two before the sacking, the members of the municipal employees' union involved in collecting garbage went on strike.
Residents forced out of tip [coming soon]
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Monday 12 November 1973 p 3 Article
... hundreds of residents out of the Keilor tip yester day after locked gates were cut open by two councillors. The two councillors used bolt cutters to allow about 250 residents to dump rubbish on the tip. The striking men, mem bers of the Municipal Employees Union, made some people carry their rubbish ... 136 words
Bins were full to overflowing and full of maggots, surrounded by garbage bags torn open by dogs and also full of maggots. I rang the M.E.U. secretary,a Mr Cole,I think,and gained his permission to collect Tullamarine's rubbish and take it to the tip. With the support of Carol Wright and many other volunteers, and Dave Calder's truck,this was done. There was a situation when we arrived at the tip, but it was soon resolved and the stinky mess was dumped. Judging by the above article,other areas did not have the same luck. I would not know which councillors cut the chains. I hadn't read the article of course,not having the Canberra Times home-delivered!
(It would not surprise me if one of them was blind!)
My memory is slipping because I can only remember eleven of the councillors at the time of the sacking,it might have been JIM Allen. The Tullamarine ward was represented by Leo Dineen,Leo Tadgell and Ray Gibb, Doutta Galla Ward by Neil Heinze, Neville Free and Peter Horman, Niddrie Ward by Nancy and Peter Kirschner and Dom. Cavallo,the Mayor,and Maribyrnong by George Seitz,Eric Allen and ?. (That was the missing one, not Jim Allen, a former councillor after whom was named a reserve that still exists because I was not a wheeler-dealer despite Eric Allen's efforts to make me one. Politics!
TO BE CONTINUED when I finish farms near Tulla and William Smith.(KEILOR PARK REP., UNUSUAL SPLIT, KELLY V PRICE)
SEE COMMENT 1. WOULD NOT SUBMIT HERE AS AN EDIT. SEE THE OTHER JOURNAL RE THE PASCOE VILLA ADVERTISEMENT.
I suspect that the above Pascoe Villa, was the former Young Queen Inn, on a small block on the west side of Pascoe Vale Rd, just north of the Pascoe Vale bridge. It could also have been on a part of Brewster's grant, crown allotment 15 Doutta Galla. As Smith owned the Young Queen, he would have had no need to build a dwelling on his small farm which was in a different parish but only across the creek from the hotel.
EXTRACTS FROM "EARLY LANDOWNERS:PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA".
SIR JOHN FRANKLIN.
On 15-2- 1847, Sir John Franklin bought the northern 12 acres of section 15. From Brewster memorials it has been established that the northern boundary of section 15 is indicated by the intersection of Esmale, Lebanon and Amar Sts. From this line, Franklins land went 295 links south to the e-w section of Lebanon St (D 847).
The E.J.Brewster 1st and 2nd series do not refer to a memorial concerning the land extending the next 8 chains (roughly) south to Peck Ave. If Andrew Lemon was right, it was purchased by William Smith.
(Luckily Doutta Galla microfiche 85 gave the title application number 13 676. The Sketch of Title under this number contained the following information. The blocks western boundary started 295 links south from the north west corner of section 15 (see frontage of Sir John Franklins purchase) and went another 709 1/4 links further south. Its northern and southern boundaries went east 41 chains and 5425 links respectively to the Moonee Moonee Ponds. On 4-2-1848, the same day that McCord, Jackson, Dunn and Callaghan bought their blocks to the south, Brewster sold this block to William Smith, a farmer of Glenroy.
The memorial recording this conveyance (G 460) was not listed in the Brewer index so luckily it appeared in this document. It revealed that William Smith paid L114/0/6. William Smith finally sold it to William Henry Fletcher, yoeman of Yan Yean, on 1-2-1872. The memorial listed for this conveyance (217 310) was consulted. The description of the land was perfectly copied from G 460, which failed to specify the blocks area. Fletcher paid 940 pounds, 8.25 times the price Smith had paid 24 years earlier.)
Using notes from title documents, I transposed all the purchased blocks onto my Melway. This was fortunate because, thinking these scribbled notes,(also rates transcriptions etc) would be completely meaningless to anybody else, I threw them away. I used one sketch of title together to cross-check the next as in the case of Franklin's and Smith's above; see bold type.
Sir John Franklin bought a large area of land in section 23 north of his 12 acre block bought from Brewster. The 12 acre block was combined with some of St John's grant to the north as what became known as Dunn's Farm. Because of Sir John's absence and the lease ending,or various title transfers on St John's grant, the 12 acres in section 15 was not occupied. From about 1882 John Murray Peck fenced and paid rates on it.About 30 years later, John English claimed title on the 12 acre block because of Peck's adverse possession.
The Lands Department had no idea about this, so we can't be too critical of Andrew Lemon's map showing the subdivision of section 15 on page 21 of BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.His map does not show Franklin's purchase. Another error made is logical. One would assume that crown allotment boundaries in Doutta Galla and Jika Jika would line up but they don't. That's why there are dog legs at creek crossings at Woodland/Reynard, Albion, Ormond/Brunswick etc. Lemon has drawn the northern boundary of 15 Doutta Galla as being on the same line as Gaffney St, but it's actually the line of Spence St in Keilor Park, continued east to the Moonee Ponds Creek.
Andrew Lemon states on page 75 "..,in 1871, The Young Queen Inn had closed for good . William Smith,its owner had bought adjoining blocks in the abortive Pascoe Vale Village over the intervening years until he owned 21acres on the north side of the creek and a similar area on the south. William Jones, who had worked land in the Essendon district for 30 years bought Smith's properties in 1874...."
Maybe north of the creek Andrew, but Smith's land on 15, Doutta Galla was sold to William Fletcher as documented in bold type above. I have Peck Avenue as Smith's southern boundary, where it adjoined McCord's purchase and Peck Avenue was the Drive for Peck's Lebanon,so let's check on Fletcher and McCord.
Having done this check,I assume that PeckS Rd (being the boundary between the Smith and McCord purchases) was a driveway shared by the owners of each. Here's how Lebanon's 34 acres came into existence.
FRANKLINS 12 ACRES. This obviously became, with William Smiths purchase, part of John Murray Pecks Lebanon. The total of the two, which comprised lot 4 of Brewsters post-partition subdivision, was about the 34 acres that Lebanons owners were assessed on over the years. Neither the 1st nor 2nd series index for Sir John Franklin mentions any sale of his 12 acres. I checked the index for Archibald McLachlan and Frederick Armand Powlett, who acted as his agents at various times. I checked the index for Dame Jane Franklin. There was no mention of this part of section 15, Doutta Galla! In desperation, I returned to the ground floor and consulted Doutta Galla microfiche 85 again.
There I saw 46645s and was partly rewarded when I raced up to the 6th floor to try application 46645. The search certificate referred to Sir Johns purchase of the northern 295 links of section 15 but there was no sketch of title. The search certificate referred to the land being fenced in 1882. This was probably done by John Murray Peck, who had bought William Smiths original purchase and established Lebanon. I think Peck noticed that nobody used the land between his 22? acres and section 23, so he just started using it as if he owned it. Broadmeadows Shire was receiving rates on his whole 34 acres so there would have been no question of his right to use Franklins land. Indeed, in 1879-80, Hugh Peck may have been occupying Franklin and Smiths purchases when he was assessed on 34 acres; names were listed alphabetically and Pecks name appears where the name of W.H.Fletcher would be expected to be. J.M. Peck died on 19-11-1903 and he does not seem to have been listed in Broadmeadows 1899-1900 rate book. It was probably at this time that the Pecks realised that their lack of title to the 12 acre block would be discovered. Did they just abandon it?
In 1879, John Morgan English, had bought Belle Vue ( renamed Oak Park and separated from Franklins land only by the creek and Lebanon Reserve) after the death of Fawkners widow, Eliza, and (converted Fawkners single storey weatherboard house into the double storey mansion still standing at the top of Oak Park Court-YET TO BE PROVED TO MY KNOWLEDGE, 26-10-2013.) He leased out the farm to his relatives, the Morgans and Mrs Morgans mother, Mary Knight but was still involved in the area, purchasing the 200 acre eastern part of section 23, which adjoined Franklins 12 acres. He seems to have done the same as I suspect Peck did earlier and, in 1902, just squatted on the land and paid the rates. In 1926, J.M.English applied for the title to Franklins land.. (Application 46645, Broadmeadows Rates.)
In 1920-1, Louisa Ellen, the widow of J.M.Peck had 38 acres, which probably consisted of lot 4 (Franklin and Smiths purchases from Brewster) plus about 4 acres of subdivision lots in the Byron Vale Estate or another estate nearby.
Why didnt Franklin sell the 12 acres when the section 23 land was sold? My guess is that he and his heirs (and the titles office) forgot that this land was on a separate title to the St Johns Estate. If hed left his land to his wife, Dame Jane Franklin, she might have been aware that the 12 acres existed. However he seems to have punished Jane for not bearing him a son. He left her only her clothes and gave the rest of his estate to a daughter from a previous marriage. This daughter had probably never been to Australia.
The confusion seems to have set in when a man named Dunn leased a 123 acre farm from Sir John. He was followed by Elizabeth Guest prior to 1862 but the 123 acre farm was still called Dunns Farm. As explained in bold type under section 23, Dunns Farm must have included the 12 acres (adjoining section 23) at the northern end of section 15. This lessee could have been Thomas Dunn of section 15 or Edmund Dunn of Viewpoint in Tullamarine.
When the 123 acre Dunns Farm was leased to Henry Mawbey for 5 years on 17-2-1862, it was wrongly described as being entirely in section 23. Significantly no boundaries of the farm were described in the memorial! (121 455).
I had intended to include a copy of Sketch of Title 46645 but the clerks scribble is so illegible that readers would not be able to make head or tail of it. Heres what it says.
46645. John M.English.
Part allotment 15 Doutta Galla.
Claim by possession.
L.R.O. Sir John Franklin
(see D 847* set out on ??) also see 11578 from which it appears that his widow Jane Franklin is interested.
John Morgan English, the registered proprietor of abutting land in 9 T? Vol. 2209 Fol 441708 (records available only go to volume 999) from which the land applied for was with other land excised **thus necessitating this present application
(* D 847 records the sale of the 12 acres to Franklin by Brewster.)
(** Broadmeadows Rate books show that in 1900 Alex Robertson had just replaced dairyman, Robert G.Bryant as lessee of 200 acres Doutta Galla owned by the Hodgson executors. It is known that this was Thomas Kellys former eastern portion of section 23, which was roughly between the Strathaird/Menarra St corner and Lebanon Reserve.
His application states (inter alia)
That Crown Grantee was Edward Jones Brewster- But he conveyed
That he has never acknowledged ownership or been called on to do so and no rent or payment has been made by or claimed from him except rent under lease from Land Investment Coy to whom he has sold under contract of sale dated 4 Dec 1923
He occupies under Co lease-
That from 1902 or sometime prior unto: up to 26 June 1918 land was occupied by himself and his brother (probably Joseph English) for grazing purposes and since that date by himself as owner? or lessee as ###? for same purposes:
All rates paid by him or his brother till 1918 and from 1918 to 1923 by him since then by Co. ?? Coy.
Since 1902 a fence has always stood on south boundary of land on south of land applied for- red on survey plan (survey plan not enclosed) and was erected on line upon which an old fence had stood for at least 15 years prior to 1902.
19 Dec 1925 Staty Decl of Harry Huntington Peck
456830 He well knows land in survey plan ???A
(Of course the future author of Memoirs of a Stockman should have known the land; his father had squatted on it for about 20 years.)
He is joint owner of land abutting (on portion of south side ) of red and blue and first became acquainted with (said?) land in 1882 when such land was enclosed by fences on south, west and north west sides shown on plan and land has been enclosed by fences from 1882 (to date?) except that about 1902 a new fence was erected on south on line on which original fence stood since 1882.
WILLIAM SMITHS PURCHASE. (Lebanon).
Andrew Lemon states that, in 1874, William Jones bought William Smiths properties, about 21 acres on the north of the creek and a similar area on the south. (P.75.) The 1879-80 Broadmeadows rate book lists William Jones as the owner and occupier of 20 acres at Pascoe Vale, but as this was in the Campbellfield riding it would have been north of the bridge. This was probably the land he bought from Mr Heron in about 1865, and on which he was harvesting 2 tons of hay per acre in 1888 (Victoria & Its Metropolis P.704). The rate collector made no mention of Jones having about 20 acres south of the creek, unless my transcription was faulty.
The owners of Smiths purchase.
William Smith (not the man associated with Flemington and Moonee Ponds, P.697 Vic. & Its Metrop.) bought the Young Queen Inn from John Watson in December 1842. The inn, being on the most popular of the three routes to Sydney until the Broadmeadows Township bridge was built in 1854(Lemon P.17.) This was on lot 3 of Pascoeville, consisting of 1 acre 2 roods and 5 perches, on the s/w side of the government (Pascoe Vale) road. Lot 4 was s/e of it, probably fronting the creek and lot 2 was n/w of it. The south west boundary was a lane leading from Sparke St to the Moonee Moonee Ponds (Sydney 1523). This memorial, detailing the sale of lot 3 by the hotels builder, Edward Butler, to Watson on 29 and 31 May 1841, unfortunately gives no measurements but I think Sparke St would have been near Marks St if all blocks were about 1 ½ acres. Fate might have decreed that Smith would never purchase his block from Brewster in 1848. He was charged with the manslaughter of his servant, Joseph Plant, in 1847 but he was acquitted. (Between Two Creeks Richard Broome.)
William Henry Fletcher.
It is unknown whether this was the same man after whom Fletcher St in Essendon was named. The latter was granted land including the Target store at Highpoint (Maribyrnong: Action in Tranquility), 260 acres between Maribyrnong-Ormond Rd and a line indicated by Gladstone St- stretching from Scotia St to the Moonee Ponds Creek, and south of this the 320 acre triangle bounded by Epsom and Ascot Vale Rds. Surely he would describe himself as a gentleman rather than a yoeman.
John Murray Peck.
Arriving in 1854, at the age of 21, with three other young Yanks (Freeman Cobb etc.), Peck was the action man who could drive huge teams of horses on the Cobb & Co line that soon opened to Castlemaine. His powerful voice and commanding presence later established him as Australias foremost auctioneer of fat cattle. Before moving to section 15, Peck lived at Mascoma in Ascot Vale. (See volume 2.) His family pioneered the area in New Hampshire, U.S.A. near the Mascoma River where the town of Lebanon sprang up. Peck, his London-born wife and their son, Harry Huntinton Peck were buried at the Will Will Rook cemetery.
In the Essendon Conservation Study (Call No. 720.288099 BUT), Graeme Butler confirms some of the title information I have supplied, apart from calling William Smith John. In his entry for Lebanon, Butler states that Smith lost the property surrounding the house to William Fletcher via a series of mortgages in 1872. Fletcher converted the title to Torrens in 1881 and J,M.Peck bought 40 acres soon afterwards*.
John Murray Peck built Lebanon (still standing in Wendora St ) in about 1882.
*As Lebanon consisted of 34 acres, it must have included Sir John Franklins 12 acres between Smiths land and section 23. The Broadmeadows rate book did not state that Peck was leasing the 12 acres so I can only assume that the co-founder of Cobb and Co had just squatted on it and paid the rates, as J.M.English did from 1902. (See details under Franklins 12 Acres.)
This land includes the Red Rooster site, where stood the illegally demolished Cooks Homestead. This name was bestowed on the house by Pascoe Vale kids of the 1930s, such as the late Jim McKenzie and his future wife Peggy, because it was owned by Broadmeadows Shire Secretary Albert Cook. (See Kilts and Cow Dung Flats by R.Gibb.) Its name was actually Wanganui (IT WAS WANNAEUE- GOOGLE "WANNAEUE, PASCOE VALE"), and it was said to have been built by J.M.Peck of Lebanon. (Sam Merrifields House Names Index P.37.) Peggy McKenzie told me that a Miss Roberts owned the Wanganui land (south to the garage site); she was probably related to J.M.Peck, whose wife, born in Bond St, London on 6-6-1840, was Louisa Ellen Roberts. (Gravestone, Will Will Rook cemetery.)
Now back to PASCOE VILLA, but first we'll look for William Smith's trial. "smith, plant, manslaughter" Refine to 1847. Make a cup of coffee at this point; it's a longy! (I'm having a coffee before I adjust the layout!)
MANSLAUGHTER.(N.B. Paragraphing is mine.)
William Smith was charged with the manslaughter, by committing a violent assault, of one Joseph Plant, on the 26th June last. The prisoner pleaded not guilty, and was defended by Messrs. Stephen and Stawell.
The first witness examined was Shadrach Williams, in the employ of the defendant, who gave precisely the same
evidence as that which was adduced at the Coroner's Inquest, and which has already appeared at length in this journal ; his evidence was in effect that the deceased, who was also in the employ of Mr, Smith, came home very drunk on the 26th June last, and commenced quarrelling with his wife ; Mr. Smith desired him to be quiet, when the deceased applied some insolent language, when Mr.Smith proceeded to turn him out of the kitchen ; in doing which they both fell, deceased having hold of his master's waistcoat, and breaking the guard-chain of Mr. Smith's watch ; he did not see Plant receive any blows or kicks, and had such been given he must have seen
them ; he was aware that Plant had for some time suffered from a hurt which he had frequently seen Mrs. Plant poultice ; the arm was so bad that upon the day on which the alleged assault occurred, deceased was unable to load his dray whenhe was going into town in the morning.
(The conversation which the witness had had with the deceased subsequent to the alleged assault, shewing the animus of Plant, and which was given at the Coroner's Inquest, his Honor would not permit to be given.)
Sarah Plant, widow of the deceased,being sworn, also gave similar testimony to that which she gave at the inquest, and swearing positively that Mr. Smith came into the kitchen, seized the deceased by the throat, threw him down on the verandah, and kicked him on the right wrist, which until this occurrence was uninjured ; she also swore that Mr. Smith threw himself upon the deceased whilst he was upon the ground, and placed his knee upon his right side ; that subsequently the deceased got up, when Mr.Smith again knocked him down, upon which Mrs. Smith came out with a rake, with which she was about to strike deceased when witness prevented her.
On cross-examination this woman ad-mitted she had been transported for manslaughter, but rigidly adhered to her former statement so far as it implicated Mr.Smith, strenuously alleging that her husband had not the slightest injury on either of his arms until this occurrence ; she also denied that any provocation was given by the deceased to Mr. Smith.
Arthur O'Mullane, M. D., sworn-I knew Joseph Plant ; he was a patient of mine; I first saw him on the 1st July;I saw him in a shop at Collins-street; he brought me a note from Mr. Belcher, requesting me to examine his arm and give him a certificate of the state of his health ; I attended the deceased, Plant, until the period of his death, on the 20th July ; deceased was a man of remarkably weak and feeble constitution. I should say his constitution was at least ten years older than himself; he told me he was fifty-nine years of age ; he had
suffered from epilepsy for years, and when attacked had several times fallen in the fire ; he had a wound or bruise on his right wrist, about three inches in length, and about two inches wide ; he died of gangrene ; I treated the deceased according to the most approved mode of surgical practice ; his death resulted from a bruise on his right fore arm, destroying the vitality of the soft parts so far as the bruise extended ; this bruise would not have affected any man but one of a very bad constitution ; treatment such as the female witness has sworn deceased received from Mr. Smith, would have a tendency to accelerate his death; amputation was performed upon the deceased's right arm on the Friday previous to his death ; he lived till the morning succeeding that on which the operation was performed.
By his Honor-If the operation had been performed the day after the injury had taken place, the same result would have attended the operation.
By Mr. Stawell-The deceased had a very shattered constitution, the result of epilepsy, intemperance, and old age; he told me he had been a hard drinker ; the bruise I speak of was between the bones of the right fore arm.
By his Honor-Ordinarily speaking, a kick on that part would not cause death.
Examination continued-The wound was about three inches in depth, and about half the width, when I first saw
him ; nature had not set up the process for the removal of the dead flesh ; had the deceased fallen down and broken his leg, it is probable, from the general state of his health, he would not have recovered ; the skin of
the arm was not broken; if the arm were not fixed, a violent blow or kick might have been given without breaking the skin.
By, his Honor-I don't think this bruise upon the arm could have been caused by anything but a kick with a
narrow blunt instrument.
Examination continued-On examining deceased there was an old mark on his hip, but no appearance of a recent
wound there ; there were also some marks on his left wrist, which deceased said he got in the bush ; I was a fellow passenger of Mr. Smith's to this colony, and a more respectable orderly quiet man was not on board.
Henry Moor - (Deceased's affidavit produced) the signature attached to this is mine ; this is merely the deposition made upon which to ground the application for a summons against Mr. Smith.
William Hull, Esq., J. P., sworn (Deceased's dying deposition produced)I knew Joseph Plant ; this is his dying
deposition, which was taken down by Mr. Belcher in my presence ; at the time this was taken Plant was sinking fast, and he was conscious that he was about to submit to an operation which might cause his death ; deceased was at a lodging house in Collins-street ; I said to deceased, " you're now about to have your arm taken off, it will probably cause your death : I tell you this, that you may regard what you now say as your dying declaration, and I hope you'll speak the truth ;" he wept, and said " it's hard to be murdered at my age."
I said, " how old are you ?" he said "59;" deceased then said, "I owe my death to Mr. Smith ," I said, " I hope you're at peace with all mankind, and particularly with Mr. Smith?" he then repeated his observation that Mr. Smith had murdered him ; I then said, " I'll send you a clergyman ;" and I believe the Rev. Mr. Thomson visited him.
His Honor-Is that all that passed ? Mr. Hull-It is, your Honor. His Honor-Then that won't do : in dying declarations, there must be evidence that the party making it was conscious that he was past all hope.
The counsel for the prisoner stated they had no objection to the deposition being read.
His Honor-That may be, but I have a duty to perform ; and, so far as the evidence goes, that deposition is clearly not admissible.
Examined by Mr. Stephen.-I have known the defendant some years and always considered him a highly respectable man ; I never heard a report to his prejudice till this unfortunate case.
W. R. Belcher, clerk of the Bench,sworn.-I recollect going to where Plant was, with Mr. Hull ; I went there by
order of the magistrates, in consequence of information received from Dr. O'Mullane ; deceased appeared in a very feeble state, and said he thought he had not long to live, and accordingly his deposition was taken.
His Honor.-Is that all ?
Mr. Belcher.-Yes, your Honor.
His Honor, having read the deposition, said that he thought more injustice would be done to the prisoner by withholding the deposition than by allowing it to be put in in evidence, and the counsel for the defendant having consented, the deposition was put in and read, in which the deceased attributed the injuries he had received on the right arm to an attack made upon him by Mr. Smith, the defendant.
Mr. Croke here referred to the evidence of the man Williams, and Sarah Plant, upon which His Honor remarked, that there could be no doubt one or the other of them was perjured.
W, B. Wilmot, Esq., coroner, sworn. -(Deposition of Sarah Plant read, as taken at the inquest.) This was read
over to her before she signed it ; this is the substance of what I considered to be material at the time. His Honor questioned the coroner as to whether Mrs. Plant said anything more than what was contained in the
deposition read. The Coroner had some recollection of her having said something about a second assault, but she gave her evidence so extremely loose that he had great difficulty in collecting the substance.
His Honor remarked that it was especially desirable, for the future, that in cases of this nature the verbatim testimony of witnesses should be taken, as what might be deemed unimportant at the time might ultimately turn out to bemost important.
By Mr. Stephen.-When I read the deposition over to Mrs. Plant she did not object to it, nor did she say that
anything was omitted.
(Deposition made at the police-office by Joseph Plant read, the groundwork of an application for a summons for an assault against Mr. Smith, in which the deponent swore that Mr. Smith, at thetime of the assault, made use of theexpression-"I'll kill the old b-." This closed the case for the prosecution.
Mr. Stephen, at the commencement of his address to the jury, remarked upon the discrepancy in the witness' statements.
His Honor.-Where two witnesses for the crown are called and contradict each other, I shall certainly desire the jury to acquit the prisoner.
After some few observations from Mr.Croke, His Honor said, there were no circumstances to enable the jury to prefer one evidence to another. Mr. Stephen said, he would at once place a witness in the box who would
settle the matter.
Stephen Bunistead, a fellow servant of the deceased, sworn.-The night before the deceased went into town on the
Saturday he complained to me of his right arm being very bad, having hurt it in the bush ; on Saturday the deceased was unable to load his dray ; for three weeks before this I have seen the deceased with his right wrist bandaged up, and deceased once asked me to bring out some ointment for his arm, but I have forgotten the name.
His Honor, in summing up, said, that the evidence of the last witness tended in a great measure to confirm Williams' statement. The woman Plant's statement was contradictory and unsatisfactory in many points, and differed materially in some parts from what the deceased had himself stated ; the jury he thoughtwould have no difficulty in acquitting the prisoner.
The jury retired for a few minutes and then returned a verdict of not guilty, accompanied with a remark, in which his Honor the Judge coincided, that there was not the slightest imputation upon the character of Mr. Smith, who was immediately discharged.
His Honor, addressing himself to the jury, said, that he presumed they discredited the testimony of the woman
Plant, and on being informed that they did, his Honor directed her to be recalled and after telling her that neither he nor the jury, and he should imagine but very few in court, believed her, committed her for perjury, telling the Crown Prosecutor that he could act as he pleased in the matter.
Mr. Croke.-From a circumstance which has been communicated to me since the jury retired I am disposed to
think that what the woman stated was the truth.
His Honor.-Well, I have done my duty in committing her, you must use your own discretion whether you indict
her or not. ((P.4, The Melbourne Argus, 3-8-1847.)
One of the people involved in this case had a connection with CUMBERLAND and SPRING FARM.But before I get onto that, I've just realised that I've made a mistake, and as I think it's in comments, I can't fix it there.The wife of William Pomeroy was Anne, not Mary. There's a clue!
This person married, if I've got my facts right, a daughter of William and Anne Greene and wrote a book, which can be perused at the historic Woodlands Homestead; I think the title is Lady --a-e--'s Memoirs. The Cumberland Estate included a fair bit of Woodlands.This person became the Chief Justice and with his cousin "Alphabetical" Foster,the Colonial Secretary, wrote Victoria's (very conservative) constitution.
NO THINK MUSIC,JUST A FEW WOODLANDS FACTS AND ONE OF MY CORNY JOKES AND THEN TIME'S UP.
Two Bulla township streets were named after the Greenes, the diagonal part of Somerton Rd that led to the east-west section and Lochton, and Rawdon St, named after William and Ann's son. It made my blood boil every time I saw GREEN ST in Melway; such historical ignorance!
Some of the pioneers retained the speech traits of their native countries. This fellow wanted his young farmhand to put the horse into the stable and as he was a nice chap,he said,"Take horse to stall,please." There was concern when the lad didn't join them for the evening meal and when they heard thundering hooves at night.
Rushing out, they saw the lad on the horse he was supposed to have put away, and on the other horse that they had frequently seen in the Oaklands point to point- the Chief Justice.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 11 January 1856 p 4 Family Notices
... William Foster Stawell, barrister-at-law, to Mary Frances Elizabeth, only daughter of the late William Pomeroy Greene, of Woodlands, Esq.