itellya on Family Tree Circles
Journals and Posts
Samuel Lazarus, who registered the death of Sidney Jim (buried in the Will Will Rook cemetery) was the second teacher, after John Cassidy, at the Seafield National School in Tullamarine,according to the Historic site assessment below,which quoted my journals extensively (although itellya did not exist until 2011) and has so many mistakes that I'll have to write a journal to correct them.
Historic Sites Assessment - Department of the Environment
May 2, 2014 - The Tullamarine area was settled early in Melbourne's history with ...... The first teacher was J. Cassidy followed by Samuel and Fanny Lazarus ...
One mistake that should not have happened was the continuation of the mistaken belief that the second Victoria Bank was in Mansfields Rd. The second Victoria Bank was established by Angus McNab on about 93 acres (part 13A, Tullamarine,previously occupied by Agnes?-Ritchie) fronting the north side of Barbiston Rd. Much later it was subdivided into blocks of about 10 acres, one of these amusingly called THISTLEDOME. This name had me baffled me for a while until I twigged that it meant-This will do me! When I interviewed Mrs Shaw at the homestead that Angus McNab had built,the house had been renamed ROSEBANK. The Mansfield homestead on the south side of Mansfields Rd has always been called ROSELEIGH so you'll see how confusion of ROSEBANK and ROSELEIGH caused the mistaken conclusion that the second Victoria Bank was in Mansfields Rd and owned by the Mansfields.
A history is only as good as its sources. Heritage studies are often used as sources. I have notified several councils of errors in their studies but I have been told that once a study has been accepted it can't be changed. Simon Lloyd, a great loss to Mornington Peninsula Shire, fortunately saw it differently and referred perpetuated errors re Edward Jones' Spring Farm at Moorooduc to the study's author,along with my evidence. Hume Council did not correct the error of calling Roseleigh the second Victoria Bank or notify Gary Vines, the author of the above study, which I will examine page by page. You will need to download the study.
Historic Sites Assessment - Department of the Environment
P.iii. Cultural Heritage Assessment Results.
A number of early farms date from the early 1850's including the McNab brothers' Seafield, Oak Bank and Victoria Bank should read:
..........from 1848,when they were settled (Victoria and its Metropolis,Keith McNab,Newspaper article about THE CLAN MCNAB circa 1960), including John Grant's "Seafield" and the McNab brothers' Victoria Bank and Oakbank to the south
P. iv. 2nd dot point should be Roseleigh,Mansfields Rd. (It is NOT the second Victoria Bank.)
P. 13. No error but it could be mentioned that the Ritchie's Ruin site on 12B is on a farm known to the late Bob Blackwell and Ed Fanning of Sunnyside as "Overpostle". It included some 11B land as well.(Bulla rates,title documents.)
Hermes No. 11985. To provide access to the recent Arundel Closer Settlement from Keilor Rd in 1906,a contract was let for the trestle bridge but a flood washed away the partly completed bridge, ruining the contractor. A new contractor finally built the bridge which opened early in 1907,too late for William John Mansfield and his 6 year old son, William John, who had drowned trying to cross Bertram's ford.
The construction of a bridge over the Saltwater River, which was to provide communication between the Arundel Estate and the township of Keilor, was in progress when the floods of last September came and washed away a considerable portion of the structure.After experiencing considerable difficulty,the Keilor Shire Council let
another contract, and this has now been satisfactorily settled etc. (P.18, Argus, 14-9-1907.)The bridge was about 20 metres east of Bertram's ford on Milburn land and was sometimes called Milburn's Bridge. (P.3, Sunbury News, 17-8-1907, Correspondence.)
Hermes No.8734. The location is vague but this could be the quarry from which Dewar's Metal was extracted in about 1863. (Source noted on trove and remembered because Grant's Lane was so-named so early. The newly formed Keilor Road Board had requested Broadmeadows Road Board to use Dewar's metal on Grant's Lane. Source not found, probably because of poor digitisation of key words.)
Hermes No. 8736. Delisted site 09/12/2009. Ford, with basalt floaters, across Moonee Ponds Creek between original Portion 15 and Portion 7 (Yuroke). Could date 1842- late 1860s, when these portions were purchased respectively. It should read "portion 7, Will Will Rook".
The ford would have been to get from one farm to another rather than a creek crossing on a road. The two farms would have been Glendewar on section 15 and Cumberland (the whole of section 7 WILL WILL ROOK . The only known connection between the two farms is the Johnson family of Glendewar which moved to Cumberland (obviously after the death of Alexander McCracken circa 1915)most likely in about 1920 and later returned to Glendewar, probably because the beautiful Cumberland homestead was burnt down (in 1927?) They built a new homestead on Glendewar. (Johnson descendant who wrote Seeds of Time and another book available for perusal at Woodlands Homestead;Keith Brown?)
D7822-0201 8841 Glen Alice Homestead
Concrete footings and slabs of outbuildings related to Glenalice homestead. Homestead itself appears to have
been destroyed during runway and service road construction.
Former Sect. 14. Perimeter Rd on Nth side of present E-W runway
Comment. This should be the southern (Fawkner) half of 13A.
D7822-0209 10403 Larundel Orchard Earth Mound
Small rectangular earth mound measuring 6.4 x 5.1 metres Overnewton Rd, Kingsbury
Comment. I presume Kingsbury was supposed to be Keilor. The only Overnewton Rd in my 1999 Melway is at Keilor. I could find no mention on trove of a Larundel Orchard at Keilor, nor an Arundel Orchard. William Taylor probably owned Arundel for about two decades before it was resumed for the Arundel Closer Settlement and may have had a ford to get across the river to Arundel. It is also possible that a heritage place card for the Kingsbury area,about an orchard associated with the Larundel Mental Institution just past Kingsbury, was accidentally filed under Keilor,but why would it have Overnewton Rd on it? A google search for "Overnewton Rd, Kingsbury" produced only one result,namely:
larundel orchard earth mound - Victorian Heritage Database
Location. OVERNEWTON ROAD KINGSBURY, DAREBIN CITY. Google Maps and Google Streetview. Heritage Inventory (HI) Number. D7922-0209. This states the location as DAREBIN, so the orchard obviously was associated with the mental institution near Kingsbury. What a tangled mess!
THIS IS WHAT I'D DO IF I WAS IN CHARGE OF HERITAGE VICTORIA. I WOULD REQUIRE A MELWAY REFERENCE FOR EVERY HERITAGE SITE,IF IT IS WITHIN THE AREA COVERED BY 8CM TO THE MILE MAPS. IF IT IS AN ENTIRE FARM WITHIN THAT MAP AREA OR OUTSIDE THAT AREA, IT IS TO BE SHOWN ON A PARISH MAP. IF IT IS A HOUSE BLOCK IN THE MELWAY AREA,A STREET ADDRESS IS TO BE GIVEN, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE CURRENT PRACTICE AND THIS COULD APPLY ALSO TO COUNTRY AREAS IF ADDRESSES EXIST. IF A MELWAY REFERENCE HAD BEEN GIVEN FOR THE LARUNDEL ORCHARD OR ITS POSITION HAD TO BE DESCRIBED AS, CROWN ALLOTMENT, PARISH, SUCH A CLANGER WOULD NEVER HAD HAPPENED!
TO INDICATE FAIRLY ACCURATELY SMALL OBJECTS IN A LARGE AREA(HOUSE,SCHOOL,DAM,ORCHARD, QUARRY,BRIDGE ON CLOSED ROAD ETC.) OR IN FARMING AREAS OUTSIDE THE MELWAY AREA, PARISH MAPS WOULD BE USED TO INDICATE LOCATIONS. THEY WOULD HAVE GRIDS SUPERIMPOSED ON THEM. I'D SUGGEST 400 METRES X 400 METRES IN ACTUAL MEASUREMENT OR IF THE SAME SCALE WAS USED AS IN MELWAY MAPS 3+, 2CM X 2CM. THE GRID LINES WOULD BE MAGNETIC NORTH SOUTH AND EAST-WEST (PARALLEL TO CROWN ALLOTMENT BOUNDARIES) NOT TRUE NORTH AS IN MELWAY.
A STANDARDISED POLICY FOR LOCATING THE GRID LINES WOULD HAVE TO BE DETERMINED. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY BE MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL ROADS FORMING CROWN ALLOTMENT BOUNDARIES THAT STILL EXIST AND RUN (MAGNETIC) NORTH-SOUTH OR EAST-WEST, FOR EXAMPLE IN THE PARISH OF TULLAMARINE, BROADMEADOWS/ MICKLEHAM RD AND SHARPS RD. THUS AT EVERY 400 METRES OF DISTANCE EAST AND WEST OF BROADMEADOWS RD,THERE WOULD BE A (NEAR) VERTICAL LINE AND EVERY 400 METRES OF DISTANCE NORTH OF SHARPS RD, THERE WOULD BE A HORIZONTAL LINE. WHERE CREEKS ARE PARISH BOUNDARIES, THERE WILL ONLY BE PARTIAL SQUARES ADJOINING THEM BUT THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM IF THE PARISH MAP IS SCALED AT 8CM TO THE MILE BECAUSE EVERY MILLIMETRE ON THE MAP INDICATES A CHAIN OR 20 METRES.
Naming of the grid squares would be as in Melway with the westernmost partial column of (probably partial) squares being labelled A, the next B and so on. The northernmost row of squares (or partial squares) would be labelled 1. In this way, a square mile would be divided into 16 small squares. Thus the Seafield National school site on Grants Rd could be (this is only an estimate) Section 8 Tullamarine, J 8. Each grid square could be divided into nine smaller squares named north west, north centre,north east;west centre,centre, east centre; south west,south centre and south west. Thus the school site could be described as (an estimate):
Section 8, Tullamarine, J8 n.w. Now the area in which to locate the heritage site measures only 132 x 132 metres instead of 400 x 400 metres ( whole grid squares.) Incidentally Mr Melway made his grids exactly the same size as I suggested but because Melway north is true north and parish maps use magnetic north,it is impossible to describe the location of a farm accurately with a Melway reference.
Instead of the above, G.P.S. co-ordinates could be given. Preferably both descriptions could be used as a fail-safe procedure so we know whether the heritage site under discussion is likely to become part of Melbourne Airport OR NEAR KINGSBURY!
Victoria Rd Homestead (H 7822-0352). Victoria Rd may have been so-named on a plan of John Carre Riddell's Camiestown Estate but appeared on every road directory I've ever seen as Victoria St until the freeway was built and the part south of it was called Greenhill St and the southern part of Wright St was called Springbank St. Tullamarine old timers called Victoria St NASH'S LANE because of Charles Nash's farm, FAIRVIEW, which fronted its eastern side. Part of Mercer Drive leading to the taxi holding area is on part of the closed Greenhill St. Victoria Rd homestead should properly be called FAIRVIEW HOMESTEAD.
Google "Victoria Road Homestead, Tardis". (They quoted itellya but didn't call him that.)
Wright St homestead ruins are most likely the remains of the "Sunnyside" homestead built by Wallis Wright and owned from 1923 by William Heaps. This farm is discussed in the Tardis archeological survey re the Victoria Rd homestead.
H7822-2308 185972 Oaklands Road paving
Area of paving beneath boxthorn bush, handmade bricks, surface scatter of ceramics and glass.
Cnr of Oaklands and Somerton Rds .
The fault here would lie with the heritage place card. I might be able to shed some light on the origin of the relics if I knew which corner they are on. Surely north west,south west,north east or south east could have been inserted in front of "corner". If it was the N.E. corner,the paving could be connected with implement manufacturer James Musgrove or later Percy Bockholt's shearing depot.
Page 16. Annandale Homestead ruins (H7822-2322.) The government resumed section 1 (Arundel) and part of section 2 (Annandale)in about 1906 to establish the Arundel Closer Settlement. George Annand was the grantee of section 2 and seemed to have sold it to William Taylor. It also seemed to be leased to local farmers*,probably for grazing and it is doubtful that a house was built on section 2 before 1906.
*TO LET, 640 acres of LAND, known as Annandale,parish of Tullamarine, near Keilor, and recently in the occupation of Edward Wilson, Esq., Arundel.(etc.)(P.8,Argus,15-7-1869.)
Cr Bill Parr bought the north eastern part of Annandale,retaining that name for his farm.He was living there by 1918 when his mother,known to all as Ma Parr, died.
PARR.-The Friends of Mr. JAMES H. PARR are respectfully invited to follow the remains of his dearly beloved wife, Emily, to the place of interment, the Bulla Cemetery.
The funeral will leave the residence of her son,William, Annandale road, Tullamarine, TO-DAY (Wednesday, 17th July), at 2 o'clock. (P. 1, Argus,17-7-1918.)
From what I remember the house was red brick with a walled verandah to about chest height and concrete pillars from there supporting the verandah roof. The homestead was located near the top right corner of Melway 15 D2. The Keilor rates of 1913 show that Bill Parr was assessed on 165 acres of section 2, and Thomas and Arthur Nash another 165 acres of section 2 east of the closer settlement,the boundary between their farms possibly being the future route of South Centre Rd, which could be confirmed on the airport acquisition map circa 1960. Bill's 165 acre farm adjoined his father's The Elms (originally Elm Farm)in Bulla Rd, through which the north-south section of Link Rd now runs, which Bill's brother,the whiskerless Sam, inherited.
Glenview homestead (H 7822-2323) has been demolished,probably because Johnny Fenton died. He bought Glenview from my great uncle, Alf Cock, and renamed it Dunnawalla. If it had not been for John supplying me with a list of ten Tullamarine oldtimers,there would never have been an itellya. After airport acquisition,John was allowed to lease all of Dunnawalla apart from the radio tower area.The homestead was only a few metres east of the long hill climb eastwards up Annandale Rd from the creek (Melway 15 A or B1.)
£19,000 FOR 252 ACRES
MELBOURNE. A 252-acre farm at Tullamarine, only 10 miles from Melbourne, has been sold for nearly £19,000.
The property, Glenview, was used by the vendor, Mr. A. Cocks (sic), for fattening lambs and wool growing, but he also won prizes at the Royal Melbourne Show with wheat and oats grown there.The purchaser, Mr.J. H. Fenton, will use it for grazing. (The Farmer and Settler (Sydney, NSW : 1906 - 1957) Friday 24 June 1955 p 34 Article)
Glenview consisted of lot 10 of the closer settlement,nearly 115 acres, and about 137 acres to the south in section 20 Doutta Galla.
PAGE 19. Historic Background.
Paragraph 3. OH DEAR!
The study states:
In 1834 John Batman, a grazier and businessmen, arrived in Port Phillip from Van Diemens Land.
The Australian Dictionary of Biography states:
On 1 May 1835 Batman gave Gellibrand a zero date for departure, and asked for the draft of a treaty with the Port Phillip natives. On 15 May the press published his intention; on 13 June it announced his triumphant return.
The study states:
With John Pascoe Fawkner, Batman formed the Port Philip Association to legitimise land claims in the district (Calder, 2002).
Calder needs to read C.P.Billot's THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JOHN PASCOE FAWKNER. The aims of Batman and Fawkner were completely opposed, the former aiming to establish a pastoral empire and the latter a settlement.
If Batman had said that snow was white,
Fawkner would have said, "No, black!" out of spite.
Fawkner was certainly not a member of the Port Phillip Association!
A source for Alexander Kennedy building the Inverness Hotel in the 1850's is I.W.Symonds' BULLA BULLA.
In case detail is required,this might be better:
THE INVERNESS HOTEL(1853-1964) AND ITS PENNY POLE, NEAR TULLAMARINE, VIC., AUST. (with background notes.) AND FRANKLINFORD.
Figure 2 is supposed to be a map of squatters' runs but is simply a composite map showing portions of the parishes of Maribyrnong, Tullamarine,Jika Jika(J.P.Fawkner), Will Will Rook, Bulla (Brodie,Wright, Greene*) and Yuroke. Those named on the map indicate their grants. The Brodies were squatters all right, until the parishes were surveyed, at which time they could buy as much of their former run as they liked (in competition with other buyers) and lease their pre-emptive right (usually a 640 acre homestead block) until they were ready to buy it(without competition) or failed to pay the yearly fee. None of the others named had been squatters in the area although Fawkner, the great opponent of the Squattocracy had leased the Monjetta? run, until the 1843 bust, which gave Monagetta its name. (Symonds or Richard Broome's BETWEEN TWO CREEKS?)
*Ann Greene's name is written on 2C Yuroke, subdivided by Machell in the early 1850's, and bounded by Section, Somerton and Mickleham Roads and Swain St on the south. It should be on section 2, Bulla, south of William (Tulip)Wright's section 3.
The study states, at the start of the last paragraph on page 20:
Section 1, south of the present study area, was known as Arundel when occupied by the Bertrams, and later
Glengyle Estate when the Guthries lived there.
Comment. Section 1 was originally called the Glengyle Estate. The Guthries called it Glengyle and Thomas Bertram later used this name for their portion near Bertram's Ford before changing it to Ellengowen. See the proof of this in newspaper articles in my journal:
HOW GLENGYLE, KEILOR (SECTION 1,TULLAMARINE) BECAME ARUNDEL, "TURNER'S" AND ELLENGOWAN. (VIC., AUST.)
The study states:
. Sections 6 and 15 (the latter overlaps the north-eastern extent of the present study area slightly, the former is east of the south-eastern corner) were granted to John Carre Riddell; the part which fronted present day Mickelham Road north of Londrew Court (probably Section 6) © Biosis2013 Leaders in Ecology and Heritage Consulting 21 became known as Chandos (later when owned by Wright it was known as Strathconnan, then Springburn when owned by Lockhart, and later Chandos when owned by Judd). Bamford built his timber house here. Riddell later swapped this land with Fawkner (Itellya, 1998)
Riddell sold "Chandos" to John Peter very early (Volume 170 folio 2). The Peter family (which also owned Overpostle on Tullamarine Island for some time)leased Chandos out to local farmers for many decades until early in the 20th century. It is possible that Peter had lived on the property for a while. The late Colin Williams told me that the Tullamarine kids used to swim at a waterhole called the bone mill which was at the north end of Wright St and owed its name to a bone mill (producing lime for mortar or to break up the clay soil of the area?)established by Charles and John Nash. The late Jack Hoctor told me that the Broadmeadows Township kids used to swim at Peterson's Hole on Chandos. As lengthy research find to find any connection between PETERSON and CHANDOS, I believe the name of the latter hole morphed from Peter's son's hole.
Chandos was bounded on the south by the boundary between sections 3 and 6 Tullamarine which is best seen as the northern boundary of Trade Park Industrial Estate (Melway 5 G-H 11) but near the road to Broadmeadows Township (Mickleham Rd)is the mid line between Londrew Court and Freight Rd. The south west boundary was the n.w.-s.e. part of Derby St to Wright St (the western boundary),the northern boundary was the Moonee Ponds Creek and the eastern boundary was the unmade Hackett St of Broadmeadows Township to Fawkner St and then Old Broadmeadows Rd.
The above passage from the study gives the impression that the whole 466 or so acre Chandos was owned in turn by Wright,then Lockhart,then Judd. The reality is that Chandos became three farms occupied simultaneously by the three families for many years as shown by Broadmeadows Shire assessments and the following trove results in italics.
The northern 123 acre farm was Percy Judd's Chandos Park which went south to the south end of Pelican Court which indicates the boundary between section 15 and 6. For some unknown reason the boundary went west for 1668 links (about 334 metres) and, after a shot dogleg north west,the remaining 3384 links to Wright St.
Auctioneers etc.Phone: 202 Ascot. PERCY H. JUDD ESTATE SALESMAN- INSURANCE EXPERT UNION ROAD, ASCOT VALE
Opposite Post Office. And "Chandos Park,' BROADMEADOWS. (P.2,Flemington Spectator,28-2-1918)
JUDD. On the 24th October, 1933 (suddenly),at her residence, 40 Maribyrnong road, Moonee Ponds, Maria Ann, beloved wife of Charles Henry Judd, and loved mother of Percy and mother-in- law of Ruby, fond grandma of Bob, Allan, and Heather, of Challos* Park, Broadmeadows, aged 74 years. (P.1,Argus,25-10-1933.)
The middle portion,consisting of 198 acres,was bought by Cr.John Cock (my great grand daddy)who had earlier owned or leased the whole of Chandos from the Peter Estate. This later became Cr. William Lockhart's "Springburn". Its southern boundary is indicated by the end of International Drive. The eastern end of Western Avenue was known as Lockhart's Corner.(Keith McNab.)
LOCKHART (nee Rhodes) - On the 18th August, at Llandysil, Scott street, Essendon, to Mr and Mrs F. W. Lockhart, of Springburn, Broadmeadows -a son (Both well. )(P.7, Argus,22-8-1936.)
The southern portion,consisting of 140 acres, was Frank Wright's Strathconan. Frank married Jessie Rowe who had transferred from the Holden school to Tullamarine State School 2613 at the Conders Lane (now Link Rd) corner in 1903.When they married,Mr Rogers took over the school until Alec Rasmussen arrived in 1909(during which time Colin Williams split his head open and all the pupils disappeared one hot lunchtime for a swim at the Bone Mill The late Harry Heaps wanted the subdivision street on his Bulla Rd property named to recall his former neighbour but unfortunately Strathconnan Square does not have the same spelling as that seen on trove or match Harry's pronunciation (with the long o sound.)
.-A very enjoyable evening was spent in the Tullamarine State School on September. 28th, when about eighty of the scholars and their friends assembled to say goodbye to Miss J.T.Rowe, the late head teacher, who has severed her connection with the Education Department.----- During an interval, the correspondent of the local Board of Advice, Mr J.H.Parr, presented Miss Rowe, on behalf of the scholars and their friends,with ---- (and described Miss Rowe as a diligent,capable,and sympathetic teacher, who during the time she had been at the school-some five or six years-had won the hearts of the scholars as well as the esteem of the parents. He also
said that although sorry to lose such a good teacher they had the pleasure of knowing that Miss Rowe would
not leave the district, but as Mrs Frank Wright would still reside amongst them (Cheers). (KEILOR SHIRE NEWS
Independent (Footscray, Vic. : 1883 - 1922) Saturday 10 October 1908 p 1 Article)
WRIGHT. On the 22nd April, Frank, second son of the late Wallis and Mary Wright, Tullamarine. (Interred Bulla Cemetery, April 23.) (P.13,Argus,25-4-1936.)
The last sentence before the page 21 map states:
Bamford built his timber house here. Riddell later swapped this land with Fawkner (Itellya, 1998).
These two sentences are part of the study's discussion of Chandos so the first sentence is correct.My memory is pretty good but unfortunately my recollection of the source of the photo of William Bamford's timber house in Ashford Crescent was not correct. I thought it was in Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY but it must have been in Sue O'Callaghan's BROADMEADOWS HISTORY KIT which might be hard to locate. I may have accessed it at Gladstone Park High School when the most helpful Jenny Shugg was the council librarian in the shared library. (Without Jenny,Rosemary Davidson at Tullamarine and Bev Brocchi at Niddrie there would never have been an itellya.)
As I last saw the history kit a quarter of a century ago I have no idea where it is now located and will have to rely on a memory that William Bamford bought Percy Judd's Chandos Park in 1949. (I can check the Bamford entry in my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND if anybody wants this confirmed.)
Among those noticed lunching were Mr. and Mrs. Bill Bamford, of Chandos Park, Broadmeadows; their son, John;
Mrs. Lin Stewart, Mr. and Mrs. Jack Gallagher and Mrs. J. X. O'Driscoll.(P.10,Argus, 24-8-1954.)
However,the second sentence wrongly implies that Riddell swapped Chandos with Fawkner. The parish of Tullamarine was surveyed by 1842. A descendant of E.E.Kenny told me that Melrose Drive,then known as Macedon road was surveyed in 1847. Therefore it cut through crown allotments all the way from North Melbourne to Bulla, including sections 7 (Fawkner), 6 and 15 (Riddell). Fawkner sold the north east corner of section 7 (roughly Melway 5 E-F7)to Riddell and Riddell sold the south west corner of section 6 (roughly Melway 5 F 9-10)to Fawkner. Neither of these triangles included any part of Chandos (roughly Melway 5 H-J 6-10.
FANNING OF SUNNYSIDE.
White pages show the Fannings to be still living at Sunnyside.
Fanning E J Loemans Rd, Bulla VIC 3428.
The COGHILLS also purchased Cumberland, across the Moonee Ponds Creek from sections 15 and 16 Tullamarine in the parish of Will Will Rook,most likely from the grantee,Thomas Wills. Glencairne was purchased by Walter Clark in 1856. The Clarks of Glenara had no e in their surname!
The last 4 lines before table 4 read:
. In 1856, George Coghill mortgaged his property Glencairn (northern half of Section 13A,
17B and part of Section 16) to Henry Miller (Itellya, John Pascoe Fawkner's Co-operatives North-west of
Melbourne, Vic., Australia, 2013). George Coghill's half of Section of 13A and Fawkner's Section 13A Lots 1-14
later became Glenalice, owned by George's son Walter Coghill (Itellya, 2013).
Comments. It is possible that Walter Clark bought the northern half of 13A from Henry Miller. This land was part of Glenara,not Glenalice. The last sentence should read:
Fawkner's section 13A lots mainly became the Mansfield farm, "Glenalice". Some lots adjoining section 14 were occupied by Charles Farnes,leading to the corner of McNabs and Mansfields Rds being called Farnes' Corner.
P.24-6. TABLE 4 and TABLE 5.
I can supply Biosis with a map of the Fawkner subdivision lots transposed on Melway from descriptions in countless title documents.
Page 26. William and Kezia Trotman would have moved to SPRINGFIELD crown allotment 9 o of the parish of Yuroke,not Springvale. SPRINGFIELD was on the north east corner of Mickleham and Somerton Rds and was much later split into two halves; the northern half became the Gamble family's "Brocklands" (now Aitken College and a recent housing estate) and the southern half was owned by Wal French after whom French Rd was named.
The information about William and Kezia Trotman quoted by Moloney and Johnson in 1998 probably came from Annette Davis's GREENVALE : LINKS WITH THE PAST which discussed the Trotman connection with the Greenvale Primitive Methodist Church in some detail. Their mistake in calling it Springvale is yet another example of a mistake in heritage studies not being corrected and thus being perpetuated as gospel.
N.B.1. Annette Davis now has a new surname under which she has been quoted in relation to this history.
2. Annette wrongly showed John Lavars' Greenvale Hotel on the north east corner of Somerton and Mickleham Rds. It was actually on the south west corner,not on Springfield.
The next paragraph discussed GLENALICE and states:
The Glenalice homestead was constructed in bichrome brick and located west of the present east-west
runway; it was sold in 1939 for a poor price and is thought to have been demolished around 1965 (Itellya,
2013). The Roseleigh homestead owned by Ernest Coghill****, Walter's brother, was situated on the south side of
Mansfield Road in Section 13B.
Glenalice,like many new farm homesteads (such as the Crotty family's second Broomfield homestead on the site of the Honda riding school in Sharps Rd)was built with forfeited deposits and part payments from speculators. Glenalice was inherited by Walter Mansfield, son of David Mansfield. Roseleigh,on the south side of Mansfields Rd (which I will remind you was NOT the second Victoria Bank)was inherited by Ernest Mansfield brother of Walter Mansfield. Walter and Ernest are wrongly assumed to be members of the Coghill family in the passage quoted above. (Joe Crotty,Keilor Rates,THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY by Neil Hamilton Mansfield.)
PAGES 26-7. TABLE 6.
A map showing Fawkner's section 6 and 7 subdivision lots transposed onto Melway will be supplied if requested.
The study states:
The Mansfields went on to buy most of the blocks on either side of Mansfield Road, including most of Fawkner's subdivision lots and Coghills property, purchased by David Mansfield (Itellya, 1998) (Itellya, 2013).
Comment. The Coghill northern half of 13A was always part of Glenara and was never bought by the Mansfields!
The study states:
. In 1891, David Mansfield sold two properties of 343 and 320 acres to M. Herman, who was listed as the owner (nobody-else was listed as occupant, Error! Reference source not found.)
Another source states that the Roseleigh cottage (also known as the second Victoria Bank), on the south side of
Mansfield Road in Section 13B, was probably built 15 or more years after the property was settled by the
Mansfield family rather than by Ernest Coghill.
Neil Mansfield had wrongly assumed in THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY that David had owned Gowrie Park (section 14, parish of Tullamarine.) I sent him an email to convince him that this was not so containing much information from shire of Bulla rates. I most likely included this special year by year research in a new journal about David Mansfield and that was probably the reference source not found.
Not all parish maps show grantees and one shows Gowrie Park as being owned by Marks Herman as well as many sections up Oaklands Rd being labelled GLENARA ESTATE (such as section 8, "Dunalister", named after young Alister Clark, which was renamed Balbethan and today is partly the Oaklands Junction quarry.)
The "other source" that wrongly called "Roseleigh" the second Victoria Bank was a heritage study for the City of Hume on the part of the municipality that was "the former shire of Bulla". To give credit to Gary Vines,he presented this as a theory rather than a fact and realised that there was something wrong about ERNEST COGHILL. See Ernest Coghill**** at start of page 27 in the journal.
The Roseleigh homestead was built in 1870 if my memory is correct.
OTHER TULLAMARINE SUBDIVISIONS AND LANDHOLDERS.
The study states:
Kaye, Chapman and Kaye, the original purchasers of Sections 11, 12 & 13, sold Section 12B in December 1852 to brothers John, James and Malcolm Ritchie, farmers of Merri Creek. Section 12B is bounded by Deep Creek to the east and Jacksons Creek to the south, on the eastern boundary of the study area. The Mitchells went on to purchase part of Section 11B, all of 12B, and east of Deep Creek parts of Section 13A and 13B; by 1883 they had formed the 1005 acre property Aucholzie (shown in 1931 map in Figure 8).
Comments. (See bold type above.)
Section 13 should be 18B,near Glenloeman. Mitchells should be Ritchies. 13A and 13B should be 13B and 9A.
The Aucholzie homestead was still standing but decaying and unoccupied in about 1989 when I videotaped it. I suspect that my 18 hours of videotape was given to the Sam Merrifield Library. My historic 1999 Melway shows that the homestead,at the end of a 1.2 kilometre long driveway was about halfway between dead centre and the south east corner of Melway 4 D5. The driveway left McNabs Rd 480 metres south of Tower Rd.
Figure 8. All the named house are correct apart from "Victoria Bank." This should be "Roseleigh" and led to mistakes in previous heritage studies and the heritage place card. With the first column of the grid called A and the top row being 1,the two homesteads on the SECOND VICTORIA BANK are shown close together in D4 on the north corner of McNabs and Barbiston Rds.
The western one was right on the southern boundary and was probably the original Aucholzie homestead. The eastern one was called "Rosebank" in 1989,facing McNabs Rd but set a fair way back from the road behind a delightful garden featuring a large pond with a bridge across a narrow part.
Much information about(the second) Victoria Bank and its owners,such as Cornelius Percival Blom, has been supplied to the study's author.For a time the property was named "Valvee" after a racehorse by Al. Birch. Ned Courtney who had earlier had a stud in the Avondale Heights area (near Rose Creek), renamed it the Rosebank Stud. Mrs Shaw,who escorted me through the property and told me about two elderly Misses Blom visiting, had married one of Ned's jockeys.
TO BE CONTINUED.
LAZARUS, COUSER, MCNAB,GRANT,RITCHIE,COGHILL, FAWKNER, BLACKWELL, FANNING, RIDDELL,NASH,WRIGHT, HEAPS, ANNAND, PARR, COCK, FENTON, BATMAN,FAWKNER, KENNEDY, BRODIE, WRIGHT, GREENE, FANNING,COGHILL,CLARK, MANSFIELD, FARNES, TROTMAN, LAVARS,
N.B. Sydney Jim is a real mystery. The name indicates that he was from Sydney but the lack of a surname indicates that he may have been aboriginal. Angela Evans said that he was a half caste but no proof has been found. If Angela was correct, how would a half caste who obviously came from Sydney have ended up in Victoria? My theory is that his father was one of John Batman's dusky friends that he took to Van Dieman's Land and later to the Port Phillip District to help in negotiating his well-meaning treaty.
I had earlier assumed that Sydney Jim was a mounted trooper but Bezza's suspicion that mounted constable 245 was George Couser proved to be correct.
State of Victoria Early Postal Cancels (and History) Illustrated
Post Office opened in June 1855.
When the village of Broadmeadows, on the banks of the Moonee Ponds Creek, was proclaimed in February 1850, the naming may have had a lot to do with the Scotsmen in the region - there is a Broadmeadows near Selkirk - and a large number of the original purchasers of land in the April and August sales were also Scots including J.H.Ardlie*, and one John Bryan who tried unsuccessfully for the next three years to get his pub licensed.
(*John Martin Ardlie)
Churches had more luck; by the time there was a licensed hotel in town there were three places of worship
- Anglican from 1850 (although attendances were generally poor), Catholic from 1851 (they did a bit better), and Free Presbyterian also in 1851 (which did a roaring trade).
"The settlers....complain much of the want of a bridge across the Moonee Ponds....At present no direct
communication can be effected....and much inconvenience is the consequence. There is a Flour Mill at Campbellfield, and there is an abundance of wheat at Broadmeadows, but the wheat can no more get to the
Mill than the Mill to the wheat, which entails on the former the cost of further cartage, and on the Mill-owner
the loss of custom." In 1852 a subscription was raised to build a bridge, and soon Messrs Barber & Low's Flour
Mill was getting plenty of custom.
The village picked up quite an amount of passing trade from travellers heading north in their quest for gold, and from at least the middle of 1854 there was a loose-bag mail service to the Broadmeadows Hotel from the
contractor who delivered to Bulla and beyond. As was shown with the Bulla Post Office, deliveries ceased
when the Mail Contractor was killed toward the end of 1854, and it took six months before the department
could find someone else to fill the position, when Thomas Chadwick, mine host of the Broadmeadows Hotel, and John Bethell, Esq., got their pockets together and employed a bloke on the twice-weekly run from the
beginning of June 1855.
The local surgeon, George Smith Harris, got the nod as Broadmeadow's first official postmaster a couple of
weeks later. He continued as both postmaster and Deputy Registrar until his finances went belly-up toward
the end of 1857, and he resigned both positions. Sarah Cullen took over the postal duties for 12 months before
John Bethell became Postmaster. Our Mr. Bethell was a busy lad; he was heavily involved in local politics and
took an active interest in the formation of the Broadmeadows Road District which was proclaimed at the end of November 1857.
John Bethell was Postmaster for only 12 months, and then it appears the post office wandered around the town, generally finding a home with whoever happened to be the Deputy Registrar at the time, until it landed at
George and Mary Couser's store in 1873. George had first turned up in Broadmeadows as a Mounted Constable about 1860, liking the area enough to raise a family there and become interested in the local politics of
The Post Office remained with the Couser family into the 20th century; not an exceptionally arduous job because
the Broadmeadows Shire was mostly small farm holdings until the 1950s. (etc)
Hi XXX, it has been said that there is an aboriginal buried in the (WILL WILL ROOK) cemetery, the nearest I have come to possibly being one is a Sydney Jim d 1864 Bulla b NSW informant is George Couser then it looks like underneath his name, "M.Cons 245 Broadmeadows" the death was registered in Bulla & Tullamarine by Samuel Lazarus, parents unknown consumption a few hours not certified or a medical attendant... Did you ever find that George was also a policeman??
No. George was the storekeeper/postmaster in Broady Township for yonks and was an electoral/ births and deaths registrar for Broadmeadows and Bulla for much of that time,but not in 1864 when the electoral registrars were William Bethell (Bulla), John Bethell (Broadmeadows) and James Hendry (Tullamarine.) John Bethell returned to England, possibly in 1864 and was obviously replaced by George Couser.
I Hereby notify that GENERAL LISTS for the Broadmeadows Division of East Bourke District and South Province are PRINTED, and ready for INSPECTION at my office up to the 18th October, 1865. George Couser, Electoral registrar, Broadmeadows. (P. 2s, Argus, 4-10-1865.)
Samuel Lazarus, who registered the death was the second teacher, after John Cassidy, at the Seafield National School in Tullamarine,according to the Historic site assessment below,which quoted my journals extensively (although itellya did not exist until 2011) and has so many mistakes that I'll have to write a journal to correct them. The school was at Melway 4 about halfway down the boundary between J6 and K6. Lazarus was at the Seafield school by 1859 until 1866 (at least) as shown by birth and death notices (below.) He resigned as registrar and was replaced in May 1868.
Samuel must have been teaching at Bulla in 1855 when he was appointed as a registrar because the Seafield and Tullamarine Island schools did not open until 1859.(P.10 Tullamarine Before The Jetport.)
APPOINTED AS DEPUTY REGISTRARS OF BIRTHS AND DEATHS.
Wm.Hastings, for the district of Bulla, vice (in the place of) S.Lazarus, resigned;
(P. 7, Argus, 9-5-1868.)
DEPUTY REGISTRAR OF BIRTHS AND DEATHS
-The Governor has appointed the undermentioned gentlemen to be deputy-registrars ,of births and deaths:-Dr. Andrew Plummer, for the district of Emerald Hill and Sandridge ; Mr. W. Latham, district of Yan Yean ; Mr. Samuel Lazaras, district of Bulla, vice Mr. Latham, resigned. (P.7, Argus, 24-10-1855.)
It is possible that Fanny,whom Lazarus had married, was John Cassidy's sister. (see marriage notice below.) If I remember correctly, a Bulla Shire Secretary ran off with Cassidy's wife (and a heap of money!) See the CASSIDY entry in my BULLA DICTIONARY HISTORY journal.
On the 25th ult., at the house of Mr Boreham,Campbellfield, by the Rev. P. Gunn, Samuel Lazarus,Esq., Master of the Deep Creek Schools, Bulla, son of J. G. Lazarus, Esq., of Liverpool, to Fanny, youngest daughter of the late Captain F. Cassidy, of H. M. 60th Regiment. Liverpool and Derby papers, please copy.
( The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 5 January 1859 p 4 Family Notices)
On the 10th inst., at Seafield National School, Tullamarine, the wife of Mr. S. Lazarus, of a daughter. (P.5 Argus, 14-11-1859.)
LAZARUS. -On the 6th inst., at Seafield, Tullamarine,the wife of Mr. S. Lazarus of a daughter.
(P. 4, Argus, 11-6-1866.)
ADDEY-WILSON--LAZARUS. -On the 13th ult., at All Saints Church of England, Northcote, by the Rev. C. P. Thomas, George, second son of G. Addey-Wilson, Esq. of Gippsland, late of Moonee Ponds, to Elizabeth Henrietta, younger daughter of Samuel Lazarus, Esq., of Hatherlie, Clifton Hill, and granddaughter of the late Captain Frank Duff Cassidy, of H. M. 60th Rifles, formerly private secretary, Castlereagh Ministry. (P.1 Argus,3-2-1891.)
Historic Sites Assessment - Department of the Environment
May 2, 2014 - The Tullamarine area was settled early in Melbourne's history with ...... The first teacher was J. Cassidy followed by Samuel and Fanny Lazarus ...
Mornington Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1911 - 1920) Saturday 2 November 1912 p 2 Advertising
GOLD MINING (Column 4, item 4.)
BLAIR'S (Column 3, item 2.)
Sometimes when I'm looking for something on trove,I happen to notice another item on the same page. I read it out of curiosity but not wanting to be sidetracked, especially when a massive amount of time will be required to correct digitisation, I get back onto the original search. Unfortunately,my memory is so good that I will remember this chanced-upon item years later, and wishing to post it in reference to the subject currently under discussion, spend countless hours trying to find it again.
One such item, LAKE V JONES, that I have been looking for during the past two years, was found by chance again last night and posted as a comment regarding 858 Pt Nepean Rd, Rosebud in my FERRIER, HUTCHINS journal. In that comment I mentioned another case, JAMIESON V LAKE/LEAK/LEAKE, that I had discovered by chance and had never been able to find again. My latest attempt involved a JAMIESON,WANNAEUE search on trove.
I have included such chance finds in "Notes" journals re the Tullamarine,Blackwood,Mornington Peninsula etc. areas but I thought it best to make this morning's finds the subject of a new journal. The digitisation is not corrected but the print on the actual newspaper is easy enough to read.
Much has been written about the Tubbarubba diggings in LIME LAND LEISURE, THE GOLDEN PLAINS OF TUBBARUBBEREL and so on. They were in James Hearn's easternmost grant in the parish of Moorooduc and to the south at the eastern end of Jamieson's Special Survey in the parish of Kangerong. There were rushes circa 1860 and again during the 1890's depression when the mysterious Mr Eaton (BERNARD Eaton) was a major operator and the Moat boys found a watch that had been a missing clue in the Schnapper Point murder case about two decades earlier. Not much success had been found at these diggings although Mr Barnes was apparently an exception.
Jamieson's Special Survey's western end is indicated exactly by the north and south boundaries of Safety Beach and it extended east to the line of Bulldog Creek Rd. The northern 1000 acres,north of the line of the Martha Cove Waterway (formerly Tassell's Creek) was by 1864 owned by John Vans Agnew Bruce (after whom Bruce Rd was named)and leased by Edwin Louis Tassell until his death and then others. Bruce, who with Cornish built the Murray River and Mt Alexander railway to Sunbury and beyond, and lived in Essendon, spent the summer "season" there and employed Maria Stenniken,who married Godfrey Wilson,as a servant.
The southern and major part of the 5280 acre survey was owned by William John Turner (Big)Clarke and was leased by many pioneers of the Dromana area, as detailed in Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA. Luckily the workers in the Titles Office caught my infection of enthusiasm and provided me with free copies of the subdivision of Clarke's Estate, and all the lot boundaries are transposed on my Superpages. Lot 14 has the eastern end of Wallaces Rd as its northern boundary and the eastern boundary is the line of Bulldog Creek Rd south to the northern end of Junction Rd. The western boundary runs north from the top left corner of Melway 161 G7 to meet Wallaces Rd about 40 metres east of the barrier in 161 G3. As you will notice, Bulldog Creek runs diagonally through lot 14 and the 40 acres that O'Connor applied for would have been along this approximately 70 chains (1400 metres) portion of Bulldog Creek.
As mentioned before,much has been written about the Tubbarabba diggings circa 1860 and in the 1890's (although names of the diggers are not much mentioned) but little has been seen about later mining there.
William Allison Blair bought most of his Mornington Peninsula land because of what was under it. It is wrongly stated by Charles Hollinshed in LIME LAND LEISURE that Blair settled at Ngarveno near the (future) Moonee Valley but it was actually (Netherly?-See Blairs of Essendon journal.) This was the site of the former Essendon Technical School at Melway 28 D4.
The Mornington Peninsula west of Boneo Rd was in the early days the preserve of lime burners.William Allison Blair,a lime merchant bought as much land as he could at West Rosebud and mainly south of Rye Township to displace these pioneers, getting their kilns and creating a near monopoly. Irish tenants' rights hero, Charles Gavan Duffy,bought much land west of Owen Cain's Tyrone to subdivide. It was inevitable that the two would clash as Blair sought land further west. There was a huge court case with each accusing the other of employing dummies. One parcel of land in dispute between the two could not be decided so Sidney Smith Crispo suggested that it be proclaimed a village and it was. It was named after Sorrento in Italy which had so impressed Duffy during his voyage to Australia.
Blair, whose son married a daughter of John Murray Peck of Lebanon and lived at "Wannaeue" (now Red Rooster, Melway 16 J9), later moved to a farm at Braybrook. When the Lilydale quarries opened,peninsula lime lost its value and this probably convinced Blair that buying land for subdivision rather than what was under it was a better prospect.However with so much land on his hands that had lost much value because of the 1890's depression, it was noted in the 1900 rates as "In lig." which I presume meant insolvency. The lime burners had loosened the topsoil providing a suitable habitat for ti-tree and rabbits. The former Blair "Lime" land along Browns Rd was bought from the banks for a song by James Little Brown who transformed the devastated area into the beautiful pasture we see today.
Blair's as mentioned in the advertisement was certainly not bought for its lime deposits.
TALK ON CHANGE. "I will buy with you, sell with you, talk with you." SHAKSPEARE. "Quamquam ridentem dicere verum, Quid vetat?"HORACE.
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 5 January 1884 p 17 Article
And the talk is of Dusky Joe, who owns the pleasure boat from Rosebud, and who plays seven musical instruments.
I recently wrote about Cr William Ford's nautical cook on Wannaeue Station. This was bounded by Eastbourne Rd (still known as Ford's Lane in about 1903),Jetty/Old Cape Schanck Rds, Hiscock Rd and Boneo Rd. When I mentioned the old house that was demolished in the last decade on the east side of the entry to Rosebud's footy ground from Eastbourne Rd, that Bill Dryden remembered being the only house on Eastbourne Rd, the late Ray Cairns said, "That's right,Jack Roper's place." Jim Dryden had told me that Eastbourne Rd was nothing but a track,named as Roper's Lane. Was it Raper or Roper?
Rosebud Patriotic Fund Concert.
Mornington Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1911 - 1920) Saturday 10 April 1915 p 2 Article
The following donations were inadvertently omitted from list published last week :-Mr G. Z. Woinarski*, 2
bags of potatoes; Mr J. Roper, 2 bags of potatoes and 1 bag of onions. (*"Woyna" in Rusebud West.)
J. W. Raper, hon.. sec. Rosebud Progress Association, re water supply at Rosebud and request providing of pump and piping for well.-On the motion of Cr Marsden the sum of 25s was donated towards cost.
(P.3, Mornington Standard,2-8-1913.)
660 ACRES AT ROSEBUD, MORNINGTON.
Under Instructions from William Roper to
rp li n MORTON and SON, per J. L. Parkes,
-f-. one of tltetr auctioneers, will SELL, ai
.bote. Hie well-known ,
WANNAEUE ESTATE, 660 ACRES,
on Cape Schanck road, 3/4 mile from the Beach road,
at ROSEBUD, being Crown Allotments 8, 9, 10,
and 11, parish of Wannaeue.(etc.) (P.3, Argus,8-9-1917.)
I reckon that the owner of the above estate was a former Essendon footballer and that Rosebud people could not bring themselves to speak such a rude surname.
MR. WILLIAM RAPER
The funeral of the late Mr William Raper left his home Elizabeth street,Elsternwick yesterday afternoon after a
Service conducted by the Rev. A.Penry Evans for the Melbourne Cemetery, Carlton. Among those present were
members of the committee and former players of the Essendon Football Club of which the late Mr Raper was formerly a player and president up till 1924. The chief mourners were his sons - Messrs.J.R.* W.R. and E.A.Raper - and grandsons - Dr Ian Cuming, and Mr Derek Cuming (etc.) (P.12,Argus, 10-6-1939.)
*In 1919, John R.Raper was assessed on the 660 acre estate. It was later sold to a paper manufacturing firm which planted the pine plantation through which the freeway extension runs to Boneo Rd. It is now the Rosebud Country Club and associated housing subdivisions. BIRDIES AND BOGIES,the history of the country club,available in the local history room at Rosebud library, describes how the land had been the dairy farm of Mr John Rapir. Was this another socially-correct way of avoiding embarrassment?
The Purves name has long been associated with the area, possibly managing Tootgarook from the mid 1840's when Edward Hobson went to the river of little fish (Traralgon);it was Peter Purves who coined the name, Tootgarook.And so it was written in ratebooks. Why then was the name of the original Peter's grandson written as Peter Purvis in the 1919 assessment of his 283 acres of land on Purves Rd,on the southern slope of Arthurs Seat? Before this time,there is no doubt that young men were seen,in the words of the song STANDING ON THE CORNER,WATCHING ALL THE GIRLS GO BY, but there was probably not a name for those indulging in this activity.It is possible that the name had always been pronounced as Purvis but I had not seen it written in this way before the 1919 assessment. Purvis is an English adaptation of Purves.
An introduction to Purves Family History / Genealogy
The name has an occupational, or role, origin stemming from the the collection or requisition of provisions for a sovereign Purveyance (purvea(u)nce, purvya(u)nce in middle English and purveance in old French).
Hi XXX I am still working on this (WILL WILL ROOK) cemetery list. The family Howse, have the name of the hotel as Travellers Home Hotel Deep Creek Road Tullamarine. It is listed family circles from that Gordon Conner book as Travellers Rest Hotel ..
Trust you are keeping warm at Rosebud
I was hoping to copy a page or two of my EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA which has rate and title information but my son changed my word 97 to the 2010 version which is not activated and I could lose my whole file. I'll do my best however.
Firstly, using the description of the property from title documents, I plotted the Travellers' Rest paddock,on which the hotel sat, onto my 1999 Melway. Volume 29 folio 783 shows that it consisted of 9 acres and was bounded by Dromana Pde, Matthews Avenue, and Louis St and that the southern boundary was that of building blocks on the south side of Rood St. (Melway 16, A5.) The name in the document could be J.B.Howse (if I interpret my scribble correctly.) Volume 29 probably equates to mid to late 1850's so I presume the document would record transfer of that portion of 22C from the grantee, John Pascoe Fawkner to Howse.
Gordon Connor told me that the hotel was on the site of a garage (which was and probably still is on a corner on the east side of Louis St). He wouldn't have seen the hotel as he was driven to Grandma Nash's "Fairview" but his father, a Moonee Ponds bootmaker, probably pointed out the charred remains as they drove past on Bulla Rd.
John Hall was granted 22D of Doutta Galla of 42 acres 3 roods 24 perches on 17-7-1866 and as he was rated on 100 acres,he probably bought most of J.Purnell's grant, 22D, north to the parish boundary and consisting of 65 acres 3 roods 15 perches. The boundaries of the combined crown allotments were extensions of the line of Wirraway Rd to Melrose Drive (the old Bulla Rd), and Nomad Rd (the old Treadwell Rd) to the east end of Caravelle Crescent (Melway 16 B 4-5.)
Doutta Galla, County of Bourke - Slv (1st map.)
John Hall most likely leased 22D from the crown for a couple of years at least before buying it in 1866 and would have been required to live on the property and make improvements such as a dwelling,fencing and cultivation. My great grandfather, John Cock,recently married, came to Australia in 1864 as a labourer indentured to John Hall of Deep Creek. (In his biography in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS, G.G.F. sought to hide his documented humble beginnings by claiming that he arrived in 1867 and soon after rented "Broombank".)
Location descriptions were fairly loose in the early days, and as Deep Creek possibly referred to Deep Creek Rd,G.G.F. was probably working on John Hall's 100 acre farm. This would account for one of John Cock's later marriages.
Family Group Sheet for John Cock/Elizabeth Alice Howse ...
Father | Male
Born 30 Jan 1843 Spalding, Lincolnshire Find all individuals with events at this location
Died 29 Dec 1911 Broadmeadows, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Buried Dec 1911 Broadmeadows, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Married 8 Nov 1877 [1,2] Victoria, Australia [1, 2] Find all individuals with events at this location
Mother | Female
Elizabeth Alice Howse
Born 1857 Flemington, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Died 1881 Keilor, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Father Thomas Berridge Howse | F17849 Group Sheet
Mother Catherine Forsythe | F17849 Group Sheet
Child 1 | Male
> William Henry Cock
Born 28 Aug 1878 Broadmeadows, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Died 1962 Wycheproof, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Spouse Alice Sarah Drain | F17846
Married 1910 Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Child 2 | Male
Born 1 Mar 1880 Broadmeadows, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Died 2 Mar 1880 Broadmeadows, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Child 3 | Female
> Catherine Eliza Cock
Born 2 Apr 1881 Keilor, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Died 1950 Strathmore, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Spouse Thomas Henry Wright | F17832
Married 1913 Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
Victoria 3838 1877
[S9] ancestry.com tree.
[S961] Australia Marriage Index, www.ancestry.com.
The earliest mention of John Hall on trove was in 1874, and his farm was known as"Southwaite".The farm was across Bulla Rd from the Travellers' Rest and the Howse family later owned or leased the farm. Jack Howse had a slaughteryard on Southwaite according to Gordon Connor but I never thought to ask him when, assuming it was circa 1920. The slaughteryard in 1866 could have been on Southwaite but there's no way to be sure. If across the road, it would have made a drink quite a smelly experience.
The Oaklands Hunt often started their meets at the Travellers' Rest but on this occasion, it would have been about a mile to the south near the intersection of Wirraway and Perimeter Roads within Essendon Aerodrome. East of Southwaite was St John's (not St John's Hill which was the Brannigan farm west of Harpsdale, north of Warlaby and north west of Oaklands) and to the north was Camp Hill, Viewpoint and John Cock's Gladstone (formerly Stewarton). Chandos was west of today's Gladstone Park. I'll give Melway references so you can follow the hunters.
THE OAKLANDS HOUNDS.
The meet at tho seventh mile-post on the
Bulla-road (16 C7) on Saturday was graced by an average attendance of straight-goers. Hounds found in St. John's Hill (sic) (16 C6) and raced north through Mr.Howse's (Southwaite, 16 B4) and Camp Hill farm (16 A1.). Following a headland, Mr. Wright's growing crop was skirted (Viewpoint, 6 B11), and the field got to Gladstone-park farm, (6 B9) where a short halt was allowed. Moving away, Mr. J.Cock's homestead (6 A8) was passed, and the field turned across the Broadmeadows common and main road,after which "Chandos" Estate (5 H8) was hunted over. Wheeling over a creek the hunt passed on to Mr. F. Wright's (top of 5 D-E 7), and swinging lefthanded, "Cumberland" (5 C1) was entered, where hounds killed their prey. Moving through the timber, a search for another hare ensued, and on reaching Woodlands (177 K9), one was put up, which ran west, and was lost, after a couple of miles had been traversed, in the grounds of the Scotch Church (177 G9.)
Honour Board Unveiled
Organised by the Tullamarine Progress
Association, a "Back to Tullamarine" and
reunion of old scholars and teachers of
the three schools which have existed in
the district was held at Tullamarine on
Saturday afternoon. Two of these schools
-Seafield and the old Tullamarine school
-were closed 51 years ago. Three hun-
dred people were present, some coming
from other States. The oldest of those
returning for the celebrations were Messrs.
C. W. Howse, aged 84 years, and C. Evans,
aged 82 years. (P.6,Argus,1-4-1935.)
IN the SUPREME COURT of tho COLONY of
VICTORIA: Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction. - In the Will of THOMAS BERRIDGE HOWSE, late
of Doutta Galla, Deep Creek-road, near Melbourne, in the Colony of Victoria, Gentleman, Deceased.
Notice is hereby given, that, after the expiration offourteen days from the publication of this notice, an application will be made to the Supreme Court of the colony of Victoria, in Its Ecclesiastical jurisdiction, that PROBATE of the WILL of the above named Thomas Berridge Howse may be granted to
Catherine Howse, of Doutta Galla, aforesaid, widow of the said Thomas Berridge Howse, and William Berridge Howse, of the Ovens, in the said colony, the executrix and executor named and appointed by the last will and testament of the said Thomas BerridgeHowse, deceased.
Dated this seventh day of August, 1860.
CHARLES SHAW, proctor for the said Catherine
Howse and William Berridge Howse, 118
Stephan-street. Melbourne. (P.3, Argus, 8-8-1860.)
Keilor. - At the police court on Tues-
day Toohey and Harlen, contractors, were
ordered to pay Owen Calligy £6 15s., and
Samuel Bell, £1 12s. 6d., together with costs,
for work and labour done. Slaughtering
licences were granted to the following persons,
viz.:- Mr. W. .O'Neil, of Keilor; Mr. Howse,
Doutta Galla; and Mr. Love, of Broadmea-
dows. (P.7, Argus, 17-5-1866.)
THE Friends of the late Mrs CATHERINE HOWSE.
are informed that her remains will be interred
in the Will-Will-Rook Cemetery.
The funeral is appointed to move from her late re
sidence, Travellers' Rest, Deep Creek Road, THIS
DAY (Thursday, the 30th inst.) at 2 o'clock
ALF. AUG. SLEIGHT, undertaker, 182 Collins
street. (P. 1,Argus,30-1-1890.)
HOWSE.--On the 16th inst., at his residence, Travellers' Rest Hotel, Tullamarine, James beloved son of the late Thomas Berridge and Catherine Howse, aged 45 years.
(P.1, Argus, 18-8-1890.)
HOWSE.In loving memory of our dear mother
Ellen Howse who died on the 18th November,
1909 at " Southwaite " Tullamarine.
Thou art not forgotten mother dear.
Nor ever wilt thou be
As long as life and memory last
We will remember thee
-(Inserted bv her loving sons and daughters )
HOWSE.In loving memory of my dear aunt Ellen,
who died at '"Southwaite" Tullamarine on No-
vember 18 1909. (Inserted by her loving niece,
Katie Cock. )
HOWSE.-On November 9. at Sister
Williamson's nursing home, Glenroy,
Ellen Elizabeth, oí 29 Spencer street,
Essendon, dearly loved daughter of
the late Thomas and Ellen Howse
(late of Tullamarine), loving sister
oí Thomas (deceased). James (de-
ceased), John (deceased). Catherine
(deceased), and William (deceased),
loving cousin of Mrs. C. E. Wright,
of Tullamarine, aged 78 vears. (Pri-
vately interred Will Will Rook Cemetery on November 11.)
FIRE AT TULLAMARINE.
AN HOTEL DESTROYED
A fire broke out at 23 minutes past 3
a.m. on Sunday at the Travellers' Rest
Hotel Bulla road, Tullamarine of which
Mr E.J. Wilson is the licensee. The
building was a wood and iron structure,
one- storey, and contained nine rooms. A
firm hold was obtained by the flames, and
the efforts of four hose carts and 14 men
with hand pumps failed to save it from
total destruction. There was no insurance
on the building, which was the property of
Mr J Howse. The contents, however,
were insured for (£100?).
It can take hours to find something on trove that I know perfectly well is there. Rosebud now has a great little community paper called ROSEBUD RIPPLE and I was about to write an article about Thomas Salmon. Despite entering the right key words,I couldn't find the article. This has happened several times before andI decided that the easiest way to find it in future was to make it the subject of a journal.
PASTED FROM THE WILLIAM FORD ENTRY IN MY JOURNAL ABOUT THE SHIRE OF FLINDERS.
At this time (circa 1880) William owned and resided on the Wannaeue Estate between Rosebud and Boneo, consisting of 661 acres 1 rood and 22 perches, being crown allotments 8-11, section A, Wannaeue. As a returning officer for the West Riding he was to be contacted there (advertisements.) The estate was bounded by Eastbourne Rd, Jetty Rd (and 400 metres of Old Cape Schanck Rd), an unmade government road which ran between the south end of the Rosebud Country Club's frontages to Boneo and Old Cape Schanck Rds(jokingly called Hiscock Rd west of Boneo Rd), and Boneo Rd on the west. The 167 acres (nearly) between Eastbourne Rd and Besgrove St was granted to Henry Reynolds and the rest to James Ford. (See Melway map 171.)
While a councillor and living on Wannaeue Station, William Ford had a famous cook! I was reminded of this while watching "High Tide", a history of the British navy.
It is not generally known says the Argus, Melbourne, of the 19th, that one of those who took part in the celebrated naval duel in 1813 between the English frigate Shannon, 36 guns, and the American frigate Chesapeake, 50 guns, is living in the colony in hale and hearty health. His name is Thomas Salmon, and he will be 8O years of age next month. He is employed as cook on the station of Mr. Ford, at Wannaeue, between Rye and Dromana. He appears to be likely to do a good day's work for several years to come, and is only too willing to relate the particulars of the naval confliction in which he was concerned. He narrates with great gusto the fact that it only took them in the Shannon 30 minutes to polish off the Chesapeake ; and speaks with some pride of the circumstance that Captain Broke, of the Shannon, and his first lieutenant, were the first to cut their way through the boarding nettings on to the Chesapeake's deck, when the boatswain piped "boarders away." The old man has a most thorough contempt for the present style of ironclad men-of-war, which he refers to as
"iron pots." The old salt is a "character," and is always ready to spin a yarn relative to his adventures afloat or in the bush. (P.11, The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser,24-2-1877.)
This is the first time I've written about something that never existed (as far as I know.)I have suggested that coastal town historical societies and like bodies compile a roll of honour of maritime heroes who performed rescues at their towns and that an annual MARINE HEROES DAY could be held on November 10-11 when William John Ferrier performed his heroic rescues at Warrnambool in 1905.
City of Kingston historian,Graham Whitehead,thinks it is a good idea and suggested that the late Jack Pompei of Mordialloc would be a good nomination. It should be fairly simple to compile a roll of honour for each town. A trove search "rescue, name of town" should produce plenty of results. This is the case for my Mordialloc search but there is a snag. Whether it was lazy reporting or modesty on the part of the rescuers, the saviours in some cases were identified only as lifesavers.
POSTSCRIPT.3-6-2014.My aim was to show the sterling role of fishermen such as William John Ferrier in saving crews of wrecked vessels. However there were few examples of this in regard to Mordialloc because "watering places",as they were called,past Rosebud from where the shipping channel headed straight to Melbourne, were well away from the route of most vessels. In fact, James Purves had great trouble getting his insurance paid on the "Rosebud" following its stranding in 1855,because insurers claimed that the area was on the east coast of the bay (not covered by the policy) rather than the south. See: " The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 29 November 1855 p 6 Article... the wreck was lying most decidedly on the southern coast, and not on the eastern. The captain of the ... considered the spot where the vessel was wrecked to be the eastern coast. The south coast, if tiny part could "
What the results for Mordialloc do show is social change. The sea was only thought of in regard to transport. Then the affluent citizens of Marvellous Smellbourne escaped the heat, dust, smell,smoke and rat-race lifestyle to relax by the seaside for the lengthy SEASON. Due to prudish regulations,this mainly meant rolling up the trousers enough to paddle in shallow water. The sea views and cool breezes were the main attraction.
Those not so well off could later enjoy a day visit by steamer to Sorrento and other far flung watering places thanks to such as Richmond's George Coppin (whose son was one of our heroes.)They too would enjoy a paddle,the cooler weather,sea views and the fresh air.
As regulations were relaxed regarding bathing costumes, swimming became possible and of course many non-swimmers or weaker swimmers, as well as boat owners, were getting into trouble. Lifesaving Clubs were formed to deal with this problem, some quite early but most when increasing ownership of cars made seaside visits easier. Where there was no lifesaving club, onlookers had the choice of tut-tutting when they saw someone in trouble or following the tradition of William John Ferrier.
I thought I'd get the ball rolling. Here we go! l/s=Lifesaver; *=previously mentioned.
The Royal Humane Society used to consider the degree of risk in determining awards but I'm sure that if I was being rescued my gratitude would be just as great no matter the circumstances. Agree?
LAW OF THE SEA IGNORED
TO THE EDITOR OP THE ARGUS
Sir: During the sudden squall in the Bay on Sunday last, which capsized a large number of yachts along the eastern shores, many rescues were made. This rescue work among watermen is an unwritten law.A unique case to the contrary happened off the Aspendale beach on Sunday. I would like to hear from persons who witnessed this incident of a motorboat passing a capsized crew without making any attempt at rescue, or even a word of encouragement.
-W. TEMPLETON, Hon Sec, Mord 12 Sq Metre Sailing Club (26 William st, Mordialloc).P.3,Argus,28-1-1947.
HARRY NEAL(Mordialloc),MR H.MYERS (Melbourne). News (Adelaide, SA : 1923 - 1954) Tuesday 17 March 1936 p 6; The Courier-Mail (Brisbane, Qld. : 1933 - 1954) Tuesday 17 March 1936 p 13 Article.
Townsville Daily Bulletin (Qld. : 1885 - 1954) Wednesday 18 March 1936 p 6 Article
ROBERT JOHNSON, aged 28, fisherman, who rescued a father and child from drowning at the Brighton pier on December 26a bronze clasp to a medal previously awarded. P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
PATRICIA RILEY,13, SGT.D.PLAISTER(l/s). P.3,Argus,28-12-1943.
Alice Mallard, aged 19, who saved a girl from drowning at Geelong on March 1a bronze medal.P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
MR.G.T.GARDNER (Mordialloc), GEORGE ROBBINS (North Fitzroy), JAMES WATSON (Lakes?) Daily Herald (Adelaide, SA : 1910 - 1924) Wednesday 15 January 1919 p 7 Article.
SYLVESTER JACK POMPEI, Mordialloc. Vic, for service to marine search and rescue activities in Port Phillip Bay.
Australia Day Honours,P.6,The Canberra Times, 26-1-1987. Order of Australia Medal.
PATRICK O'DEA, 14, Malvern. Bairnsdale Advertiser and Tambo and Omeo Chronicle, Saturday 7 January 1888 p 3.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 20 April 1888 p 5 Article (Bronze Medallion,Aspendale.)
MISS JEAN McLAREN. The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954) Monday 31 January 1949 p 1 Article.
GORDON GRIEVES l/s. P.6,Argus,2-1-1945.
CLAUDE QUIST. l/s. P.6,Argus, 2-1-1945.
Claude Quist, of the Mordialloc Lifesaving Club, ran more than half a mile toward Parkdale at lunchtime
yesterday and then swam 150 yards to the rescue of three girls.etc. P.3,Argus,22-3-1948.
The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879 - 1954) Monday 27 February 1950 p 1 Article.
MESSRS. E.ALICA, A.SINGLETON, J.MILLAR, T.BALL l/s. P.16,Argus,7-12-1944.
JAMES THOMAS MURRAY (Newport Workshops).P.10,Argus,4-1-1926.
WILLIAM HALKERSON,71, East Brunswick. P.8, Barrier Miner,4-1-1945; The Argus, Friday 5 January 1945 p 5.
HARRY NEAL (at Apollo Bay). News (Adelaide, SA : 1923 - 1954) Tuesday 17 March 1936 p 6 Article
ERNEST MITCHELL (Fitzroy), LEMS HENN. P.6,Argus, 14-2-1916.
MISS MARIE AGNES CONROY (Mordialloc). Barrier Daily Truth (Broken Hill, Tuesday 7 January 1941 p 4 Article.
G.T.GARDNER (Mordialloc). See Lakes Entrance.
TEDDY SWORDS,14, Dandenong. Daily Herald (Adelaide, SA : 1910 - 1924) Saturday 8 December 1923 p 7 Article.
ALFRED DIXON (Carlton). Cairns Post (Qld. : 1909 - 1954) Monday 13 April 1936 p 7 Article (Alfred's name.)
Chronicle (Adelaide, SA : 1895 - 1954) Thursday 16 April 1936 p 3 Article. (Mordialloc pier.)
FREDERICK HILSDEN COPPIN (Richmond, George's second son.) P.6,Argus,4-8-1881; P.11,Argus,17-9-1881 (certificate from Victorian Humane Society.)
ALBERT ALEX. STEPHENS, aged 12, who saved a boy from drowning in Mordialloc Creek on March 6, a bronze medal. P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
GEORGE COOTE. -One of Victoria's most outstanding life savers, George Coote, of Mordialloc, 25 miles from Melbourne, carried an unconscious man on his back in a mile swim to shore at Mordialloc today.etc.
Morning Bulletin (Rockhampton, Qld. : 1878 - 1954) Monday 27 February 1950 p 4 Article.
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954) Tuesday 28 February 1950 p 1 Article.
ALEX.FERGUSSON (at Mentone.) The Mail (Adelaide, SA : 1912 - 1954) Saturday 17 April 1943 p 3 Article.
P.3, Army News,Darwin,21-4-1943.
MR.F.WALKER (Korumburra). P.6,Argus,27-2-1900.
R.GARRARD (Olympic wrestler), J.BAILEY, R.JOHNSON,E.ALLICA*, l/s. P.2,Argus,21-3-1939.
MR.A.BOWDEN,KEITH GLENISTER,JACK RICHARDS (pictured.)P.1, Argus,6-2-1956.
JEAN McEACHERN, young l/s. P.3,Argus,28-12-1943.
CLAUDE QUIST*,JOHN CARTER l/s. P.5,The Mercury,Hobart,12-3-1951.
DOUGLAS NORMAN,14,Malvern. P.9,Argus,18-2-1916.
MISS MARY HOWARD.P.4, Argus,15-12-1908.
EDWIN HARRY,Mordialloc scout (at Mentone). P.9,Argus,14-3-1927. (silver cross.)
MR. LESLIE WATKINS,L/S Pres., at Mentone. P.15,Argus,13-1-1947.
MISS CONNIE HASTINGS,JAMES LENNON,L/S.P.3,Argus,31-1-1949.
MARGARET CAREY,16. P.3, Argus,15-11-1951 (photo.)
JOHN ARIES,14, P.4,The Canberra Times, 30-12-1939.(Saved 13 stone woman.)
FIRST CONSTABLE HODGSON,HARVEY (KLAUER?), WILLIAM,JOHN AND EDWARD?,CYRIL HARDY,FRANK (RICHARDSON?)
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 1 May 1936 p 1 Article.
AND THAT'S ONLY A START!
MR H.FURZE, Leongatha. P.8,Argus,8-7-1913.
MR.H.AVERY,FITZ. WRECK IN THE PORT ALBERT HARBOUR.
Gippsland Times (Vic. : 1861 - 1954) Wednesday 15 June 1887 p 3 Article
LOUISA RIPKEY, aged 15, who rescued a boy from drowning at Point Nepean on January 19a silver medal and
JAMES MOORE, aged 28, mounted constable, for assisting Miss Ripkey in the previous casea bronze medal.
both P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
MESSRS. W.BREEN, G.MARABELLA (MIRABELLA?), W.MOUCHEMORE (at Torquay.) P.7,Argus,11-11-1936.
MR.C.P.GARTSIDE M.L.C. P.5,Argus, 6-2-1951.
EDWARD GLOVER 3rd mate of dredge.P.11 Argus, 11-2-1926.
MESSRS. W.BREEN, Q.MARABELLA (MIRABELLA?), W.MOUCHEMORE (Queenscliff.) P.7,Argus,11-11-1936.
Charles Dingle, aged 25, mate of the steamer Investigator, who saved a man from drowning at Warr- nambool on March 1a bronze medal. P.6, Argus,5-7-1887.
WILLIAM DUNN,12. [ re-find source!!!!!!!]
Having discovered that descendants of Mornington (Osborne) pioneer,George Hutchins, had moved to the Williamstown area, I recalled that descendants of Ben Stenniken (Rye,Tootgarook)and William Jamieson (Rosebud) had done the same.
William Jamieson was the grantee on 16-8-1872 of crown allotment 14 of the Rosebud Fishing Village, between the Jetty's Cafe site and the Mechanics' Institute (formerly the Rosebud library.) It is probable that William held his 20 metre wide block on lease from the crown because of a fishing licence and that he and the other purchasers on that date, all known to be fishermen, were given the opportunity to buy the blocks on which their huts stood before they were included in auction lists. Some other fishermen, such as Fred Vine (Vean) probably retained their blocks on lease from the crown as a type of pre-emptive right; Vine's title (grant) being issued on 30-8-1873 and that of Joe Peters (the black fiddler from BALTIMORE) on 5-3-1873.
JAMIESON. On the 4th July, at his residence,26 Osborne street, Williamstown, George Edward, dearly loved husband of Evelyn Jamieson,loving father of William and baby Madge, beloved son of the late William and Adelaide Jamieson, of Rosebud, loved brother of Margaret (Williamstown), Robert (N.S.W.), and James (South Africa), aged 37 years. (P.1,Argus,6-7-1923.)
COUPER.-On the 1st January, 1925, at her residence, 64 Station street. Box Hill, Nora,the dearly beloved wife of Ramsay Couper, and fondly loved mother of Sybil, Evelyn(Mrs.Jamieson*), and Guy late of Rosebud, Dromana.
(P.1, Argus,2-1-1925.) (*Wife of George Edward Jamieson of Williamstown.)
Ramsay and Nora Couper bought "The Thicket",the southern half of crown allotment 14, Wannaeue as detailed in my journal about the Hindhope Estate at Rosebud. Crown allotment 14 of 114 acres (between First Avenue and Boneo Rd from the beach road to Eastbourne Rd) was granted to Hugh Glass,a huge landholder who became insolvent. The land was subdivided into portions of 29, 29, 20,20 and 16 acres, the first two becoming Hindhope (Randall,then Rigg) and the rest Ramsay and Nora's "The Thicket" now indicated by the curving streets,such as Warranilla Avenue,between Hope St houses and Eastbourne Rd.
JAMIESON-On the 10th January, at Melbourne, Adelaide dearly loved youngest daughter of the late William and Adelaide Jamieson of Rosebud,and loved sister of Robert, Margaret, James, and George.
(P.1, Argus, 31-1-1921.)
JAMIESON.-On February 19 (suddenly),at Sydney, William Robert Jamieson (late of Rosebud), loved brother of Margaret L.(Ringwood), and loved uncle of William R. and Madge (Box Hill). (P.2,Argus,24-2-1945.)
I found William Jamieson's grave in the Dromana Cemetery soon after I started my Mornington Peninsula research in 2010.I didn't expect to find any record of it,but I did thanks to Family Tree Circles champ,ngairedith.
* JAMIESON, William - 1919
* JAMIESON, Adelaide - 1893 ( burials at DROMONA, Mornington Journal by ngairedith ).
The ceremony was again wonderfully attended and the guest speaker,Chief Petty Officer Natasha McRoe R.A.N., HMAS Cerberus mentioned three lads born in Rosebud who served in W.W.2. Two of them were from the Allen and Waddleton families but it was Frank Ferrier whose name caught my attention. His father William John Ferrier was probably Australia's best known hero in 1905 and after leaving the lighthouse service (this job probably a reward for his heroism at Warrnambool), he moved from Rosebud to Queenscliff and gave the name "Rosebud" to his house in Beach St. Later,his son,Lew, named his fishing boat "Rosebud". See:
AUSTRALIA-WIDE HERO IN 1905: William John Ferrier of Warrnambool, Queenscliff and Rosebud.
At the ceremony there was one thing missing, whose existence most people who attended would not know about. It was the Rosebud Roll of Honour which is proudly displayed outside the office at Rosebud Primary School. It had been hoped that the school captains would carry the honour board at today's ceremony but the task of getting it off the wall was too difficult. However, the school was presented with 30 pages of text about those named on the roll and an explanation of why they constituted a considerable proportion of Rosebud's population at the time of the first world war.
Next year is the 100th anniversary of the Gallipoli landing and much money is being granted to research those who served in that bloodbath. The Dromana Historical Society and R.S.L. have received a grant to commemorate the Dromana lads (photographs of all of whom can be seen in the Dromana Museum.) Unfortunately,those from Rosebud will not be included so I decided to research those named on the Rosebud Roll of Honour.
I am hoping to obtain family lore information (such as Billy Adams'lost foot) and photographs of those named on the Roll (see below) so that a book can be sold next Anzac Day to raise money for Legacy and the school. Please private message me if you can help.
Those who want a sneak peek at the history can google
ROLL OF HONOUR 1914-1918, ROSEBUD, VICTORIA, AUS
ROLL OF HONOUR 1914-1918.(*= SUPREME SACRIFICE.)
ADAMS R.W,; BAKER E.; CAIRNS G.B., C; CARLETON G; CONNOP J.E.; COUPER G.; CORNELL P., JAMES, JOHN; DUNK L.A.; HOBLEY R., G.,J; JAMES E.; McCORMICK K.; McGILLVRAY JAMES*,JOHN, ARCH.,ALF.,ANDREW; PEATEY J.E.*,G.; PERRIN C.R.*; PETERS S.; POTTON S.; RIGG N.,C; WICKHAM G.,W., H.