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Tubbarubba, a gold mining area between Dromana and Bittern was called Tubbarubbarel by the Boon-wurrung. It was in trying to find a trove result about the Birch family where a third spelling of the name was used that I stumbled upon this fantastic information. I remember being confused when I had concluded that the Ault family of Red Hill had moved to Lakes Entrance and then discovered that they had actually moved to Cunningham. I eventually discovered that Lakes Entrance was originally called Cunningham. Way back in 1989, I found that an early shoemaker in Keilor Village had moved there from Warringal and spent ages finding out that this was the former name for Heidleberg; the very first paragraph of this article would have provided the solution in seconds.
Family historians will often come across names of places of birth which no longer exist. The following article could prove invaluable in such cases. The column is entitled MEMORIES AND MUSINGS BY "M" and this particular article about place names is on page 12 of the 23-3-1950 issue of the Advocate. Janilye sent me instructions on how to paste a link on family tree circles, which have gone missing over the years, but if you copy and paste the following into your search bar, you'll get one result only, the article.
LUCKY DROMANA KIDS IN THE 1890'S.
In my research for burials at Dromana cemetery, I am often tempted to open results that do not mention the cemetery. I'm glad I opened this one because Fred Mellor was a household name throughout Victoria and reports of his shows were so glowing that I had to don my sunnies. The Dromana kids in the 1890's would have learned more than the 3 R's taught to the tune of a hickory stick.
MELLOR.— On the 20th inst., at Women's Hospital (from shock following an operation), Lizzie, the dearly loved wife of Fred. Mellor, school teacher,Dromana, only daughter of John Forster, Bendigo,
and niece of Mrs. Gaff and G. Crawford, South Melbourne.
(P.1, Argus, 27-6-1895.)
This is why I needed my sunnies!
(From Our Own Correspondent.)
MR FRED MELLOR'S .DEPARTURE.
Lovers of music and drama will
learn with.regret that Mr Fed Mellor
is about to leave the district after a res
idence of 8 1/2 years. He has been ap
pointed by the Education Department
to the Mitcham S. School, where no
doubt his versatile talents will speedily
bring him before the public and ngra
tiate him with the musical and dramatic
members of that community. Those of
us who knew him intimately fully ap.
preciate his exacting and painstaking
manner of conducting a performance
and to this sterling quality may be as.
cribed the splendid reception all his per
formances undoubtedly received. Mr
Mellor's leading principle is to set a
high standard demanding excellent ren
dition. It is pleasing on the eve of his
departure to review his work in this dis
trict and note how thoroughly he iden
tified himself with worthy local objects
such as improvements to Recreation
Grounds, Mechanics' Institutes, Athletic
etc. He first came here in 1891 and
as director of both the Mornington and
Dromana Comedy Coy. staged such
comedies and drama as "Not such a
fool as he looks", "Blow for Blow'"
"Our Boys", "Our Regiment" at Mor
nington, Frankston, Dromana, Rye, Sor
rento and Flinders, to which must be
added numbers of one act comedies and
Mr Mellor makes a specialty of children's
concerts, and has staged some really de-.
Owing to his departure the performance
of Pinafore, which he intended staging
this year, must be abandoned, which is a
matter for sincere regret, when we remem
ber the success of Trial by Jury. The or
chestra, under Mr Mellor's baton, has de
lighted many audiences with its splendid
rendering of high class overtures, and the
manner in which it has supplied the inci
dental music and accompaniments has cal-
led forth high encomiums of praise from
competent judges. It is hoped that Mr
Mellor's removal will prove as advanta
geous to him as expected, and that his
surroundings will be congenial to his
many talents. (P.3, Mornington Standard, 29-3-1900.)
There's plenty more on trove, about Box Hill etc, concerning this wonderful man. How his pupils would have loved him! I wonder if Hector Crawford inherited Mellor genes.
There was not one mention of the Kidgells in Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA so why were William and Henrietta buried at Dromana? I wouldn't bother to ask this question on the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook page because the only reply from the so-called true locals would be "because they were dead."
For a local or family history to be published at a price that potential buyers can afford, it must be kept fairly short, so not every early resident is going to be mentioned. Another reason some pioneers are not mentioned is that oral history sources could not be expected to make reference to everyone they knew. Imagine how many families you could recall if you were asked for anecdotes about relatives and neighbours from your childhood days.
Parish maps, post office directories and rate records help greatly in finding some of the early pioneers and once an early family is identified in a particular area, trove can help to follow members of that family as they move away from the nest. Rarely is such migration mentioned in localised histories because few readers (apart from the person's family) would be greatly interested. But apart from many Victorian lads trying their luck in Western Australia during the 1890's depression, finding future wives during both world wars near training camps, and chasing employment opportunities such as Michael Cain of Rye and Edward Jones of Moorooduc at Adelaide,there were teachers such as Richard Gilsenan of Bulla and J.W.Hazledine of Picola and bank employees such as Gerald Richardson, (treasurer of the Mornington Bowling Club who helped to found the Rosebud club) who transferred from one place to another quite frequently.
With the assistance of Scott Jangro and family tree circles, itellya is able to follow these pioneers as they seek opportunities, without the limitations imposed by the need to publish an affordable book. THANKS, SCOTT!
I need to find my full Kidgell biography, which goes back to William Kidgell's father, a minister. However, my failure to find it so far has led to several new discoveries. As I know nothing personally about 99.99% of the pioneers I research, imagine my delight in finding the connection between these pioneers and my old mate,Mawler!
Extracts from my CHRONOLOGY OF BURIALS (WITH BIOGS) AT DROMANA, VIC., AUST.
29-8-1939. MR. WILLIAM KIDGELL.
MR. WILLIAM KIDGELL
Mr William Kidgell, of Dromana, died yesterday at a private hospital in Burwood. Mr Kidgell, who was aged 89 years, came to Australia in 1852, and first lived in Emerald Hill and Brighton. He carried on the business of Morley and Co., contractors, from 1877 to 1930. Mr Kidgell was one of the founders of the Melbourne Savage Club, of which he was honorary treasurer for 36 years, a vice-president, and later a life member. He was a member of the Employers Federation executive for many years, and also a president of the Master Carriers' Association, of which he was one of the founders.
Mr Kidgell has left a widow, four daughters, two sons, eleven grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. Thefuneral will leave the chapel of W. G.Apps and Sons Pty. Ltd., High street, St.
Kilda, for the Dromana Cemetery at 10 a.m. to-day. (P.4, Argus, 29-8-1939.)
N.B. THE FAMILY DETAILS IN THE OBITUARY SEEM TO HAVE BEEN COMPILED FROM THE FIRST DEATH NOTICE BELOW. HETTIE’S DEATH NOTICE (SEE 29-2-1940) MENTIONS ONLY ONE SON (HENRY) MORLEY KIDGELL, THE DROMANA AND SOUTH MELBOURNE FOOTBALLER, AND THE DECEASED MRS DOUGLAS IS NAMED AS LENORA PHYLLIS.
KIDGELL - On the 28th August at private hospital, Burwood, William of Coolamai, Dromana, beloved husband of Hettle M and loving father of Marlon, Ruby (deceased), Morley, Ethel (Mrs A C Smith) Leonard?, Phyllis (Mrs Douglas deceased), Marjorie (Mrs G Rust) and Dorothy (Mrs R,Mcllroy) In his 90th year, a colonist of 86 years. (Private Interment at Dromana )
KIDGELL - On the 28th August William loving grandfather of Alleen (Mrs R J Clarke), Robert, Jack and Joan Kldgell, Harold Douglas, June Smith, William Kldgell, Gwen and Geoff Kldgell, Phyllis Mcllroy and John Rust, and great grandfather of Geoff and Janet Clarke and Robin Douglas. (Both P.8, Argus, 29-8-1939.)
William’s wife Henrietta Maria (nee Morley) was known as Hettie. Their diamond wedding notice has been posted in Hettie’s entry (29-2-1940.)
In 1919, William Kidgell was assessed on 1.5 acres and buildings , crown allotments 3-5, section 12 (Dromana Township.) These allotments fronted both Codrington and Verdon Sts 40 metres from Hodkinson St and extending 60 metres inland. Melbourne Brindle’s pre 1919 map of Dromana shows the Kidgell house (Coolamai) fronting the east side of Codrington St 40 metres from Hodgkinson St. The house was therefore on lot 3, granted to W.Withers. William had probably purchased lots 4 and 5 from descendants of R.D.Quinan, first teacher at Dromana Common School who committed suicide because of the shame of a book keeping error he’d made in his part time job for the Kangerong Road Board.
William and Hettie retired to Dromana but would have been visitors every summer and most likely every weekend during the footy season to see the lad play before and after his stint with South Melbourne. Morley might have been still playing for Dromana when his sister Dorothy married Richard McIlroy a descendant of an early pioneer at Red Hill who may also have been playing for Dromana like one of his Cleine relatives had in 1902; Red Hill didn’t have its own team until 1929.
Spouse's family name- MCILROY…. Spouse's given name-Richd
Reg. year-1924……Reg. no-70
Dorothy McIlroy died in 1985 (reg. no.13963.)
A lad named Kidgell shows promise of becoming a footballer. (Morley –surname-was another Dromana footballer mentioned in this 1902 match.) P.4, Mornington Standard, 6-9-1902.
Henry Morley Kidgell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Henry Morley Kidgell (27 March 1881 – 30 January 1948) was a former Australian rule
Henry married Doris Mackenzie of Caulfield in 1908.
A biography giving details of William’s father and containing many other articles such as the above footballer suggesting a bridge between Spencer and Clarendon Sts* has been written. It just has to be found!
* NEW BRIDGE OVER YARRA. Petition by Carriers.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 2 July 1921 p 16 Article
... ' Association of' Victoria, held on Thursday evening, the president (Mr. H. Morley Kidgell) said that the new ..
29-2-1940. MRS HENRIETTA MARIA (HETTIE) KIDGELL (nee Morley*.)
KIDGELL.— On February 28, at Dromana,Maria,widow of the late William Kidgell, loving
mother of Marion (Mrs. O. J. Kidgell), Ruby(deceased), Morley, Ethel (Mrs. A. C. Smith),
Lenora Phyllis (Mrs. H. G. Douglas, deceased), Marjorie (Mrs. G. Rush), and Dorothy (Mrs.
R. McIlroy), in her 85th year. Private interment at Dromana.
KIDGELL. — On February 28, Henrietta Maria, loving grandmother of Aileen (Mrs. R. J.
Clark), Robert, Jack and Jonn Kidgell, Marjorie (deceased) and Harold Douglas, June Smith,
William Kidgell, Gwen and Jeoff Kidgell, John Rush and Phyllis McIlroy, and great grandmother
of Geoff and Janet Clarke, Robin Douglas and Bruce Kidgell. (Both P.1, The Age, 29-2- 1940.)
* Mr. and Mrs, Kidgell. Mr. and Mrs. William Kidgell, who celebrated their diamond wedding at Dromana last week, were married in St.James' Cathedral sixty years ago by Rev. Canon Beecher. Mr. Kidgell is a son of the late Rev. and Mrs. H.Kidgell, and Mrs. Kidgell is the daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. W. Morley, who were among the earliest settlers in Sandridge. Mrs. Kidgell proudly boasts that she attended the ball at Government House, Melbourne, in 1868, in honour of the Duke of Edinburgh. Her father was one of the first mayors of Sandridge. A brother of Mr, Kidgell lived In St- Vincent's' Place, Albert Park, for many years. (P.7, Record, Emerald Hill, 25-4-1936.)
MY MATE MORLEY; WE CALLED HIM MAWLER!
I WAS BORN IN 1943 AND MORLEY WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS YOUNGER SO THIS IS DEFINITELY HIM. John William Kidgell and Myrtle Gladys Meadows had married in 1942. Morley’s dad, son of the South Melbourne footballer and Doris Emma (McKenzie), died in 1975.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 23 August 1945 p 2 Family Notices
... ). KIDGELL.-On July 20, at Queen Victoria, to Myrtle and John-a son (John Morley)
I know nothing about any other people discussed in this chronology except what I have read but this one is personal. When I moved from Ascot Vale to Kensington circa 1950, one of my first friends in the new place was Morley Kidgell. When we had a game of end to end on the South Ken Flat south of Derby St and not far from his place in Tennyson St, he always wore his South Melbourne jumper and now I know why he was so proud of it. Morley and I opened the bowling for the Holy Trinity (C. of E.) Sunday School cricket team. Morley’s family had a T.V. and my brother and I spent many hours watching mainly Westerns. When they finished, Morley’s stepbrother, Normie Meadows, used to make us laugh by pretending to empty the drip tray to get rid of the blood. Morley’s dad was just about paralysed and if I remember correctly, an auntie Vi was helping his mum look after him. When I bought my first car, Normie, who soon after married Florence Hamilton of Market St Kensington, used to keep it running for me. Norm was a very popular leader of the church youth group (Y.A.F.) until he and Florence moved away to establish their own home. Morley was going out with Barbara Goatley of the Oak Park area whom he’d met at a Y.A.F. camp and as I was going out with a girl from Glenroy, I used to drive him home to his new home near the Syndal Station on Friday nights, play cards till 3 a.m. and then be woken by Morley’s mum at 7 a.m. with a hearty breakfast. After almost waking up, I’d drive him to work in the city, maybe first to Myer, his first place of employment, and Dunklings where he forged a successful career, eventually, after studying hard, becoming a valuer of jewellery, and consultant to Dunklings after establishing his own business, with his wife, Barbara. My wife and I enjoyed holidays in Morley’s caravan at Peninsula Gardens and later his holiday home at Rye.
His children displayed similar drive achieving the same sort of success in their careers as their father had. Morley also had success as a basketball coach and referee. The children lived for this sport and no doubt inherited the Henry Morley Kidgell genes regarding sporting ability and height, Melinda, the only daughter, was quite tall when I last saw the family when staying at their holiday home near Thompson St, Rye. Unfortunately, I have lost contact with my old friend as he seems to have left his home by the Yarra where I last visited after the freeway had led to his East Doncaster home being compulsorily acquired.
Morley’s given name came from the maiden name of William Kidgell’s widow. The South Melbourne footballer was named Henry Morley Kidgell, the first given name being the masculine version of his mother’s first given name and the second his mother’s maiden name. William Kidgell spent his working life working for Morley Brothers prior to retiring to Dromana and like his son,(Henry) Morley Kidgell, was president of the Carriers’ Association. H.M.Kidgell was responsible for suggesting that a bridge be built to link Spencer St., Melbourne and Clarendon St., South Melbourne and you’ll be surprised how recently the bridge was built. Details such as above, their location in Dromana etc. will be found in my extensive KIDGELL/MORLEY BIOGRAPHY; once I locate it, I will paste it here or provide a link. The biography came about when I stumbled on an obituary for William Kidgell before I started this chronology.
A "Kidgell, Dromana" search on trove illustrated just how limiting the quotation marks are, but also showed that apart from William retiring to Dromana, his descendants became permanent residents of Dromana.
Larry's given name was often given as Lawrence but I have decided to accept, as the correct version, the spelling inscribed on the two adjacent gravestones at Dromana Cemetery.
I have stated countless times that Laurence was a coach proprietor before running the Arthurs Seat Hotel (formerly Scurfield's) at Dromana and then the Dromana Hotel. I couldn't remember where this information came from, and when I discovered that it hadn't been mentioned in Victoria and Its Metropolis, I suspected that it must have been in an obituary. I was looking for confirmation that his first wife, Annie, was actually buried at Dromana, and although I haven't found it, it seems that she was. The memorial stones actually indicate the graves of Lawrence in 1911 and Annie in 1899. A memorial does not always indicate that a person was buried there as in the case of 7 year old Ronnie Hipwell and, probably, the son of Judge Henry Bournes Higgins who was killed in W.W.1; his memorial being far more grand than that of his famous father. It has taken me hours to find the obituary, during which time I have discovered that he had married again, his second wife's name being Ann. The death of Lawrence in 1911 does not appear in the Victora death index; perhaps his name was recorded as Larry! His second wife died in 1918 and I have been unable to confirm the maiden name of Larry's first or second wives. Perhaps LARRY might be the golden search term, as KIRKPATRICK'S was in finding the obituary.
The obituary was included in one of my journals years ago, but goodness knows which one. Larry deserves a journal of his own!
MORNINGTON'S GREAT LOSS.
SUDDEN DEATH OF MR L.MURPHY.
It is with profound regret we record the death of one of Mornington's most popular citizens, in the person of
Mr Larry Murphy. The sad event took place at his late residence, Kirkpatrick's Hotel, Mornington, on Friday
night, May 26th, after one day's illness,the cause of death being heart failure.His demise came as a great shock to the whole community, as Mr Murphy was about as usual the day before. As the sad news spread, great sorrow was
expressed everywhere, as his kind and genial manner had made him many friends,and he died as peacefully as he lived, at the age of 62 years.
The late Mr Murphy was born at Ballinatona, County of Wicklow, Ireland, and arrived in Australia 35 years ago. He took up farming at Benalla, and afterwards ran Cobb and Co's.coaches at Kilmore, and was then transferred to Mornington. In 1886 he went into partnership with Mr.Rooke, and ran vehicles from Mornington to Frankston and Dromana.
In 1892 he took over the Arthurs Seat Hotel at Dromana, and four and a half years later assumed possession of the Dromana Hotel, where he remained until 18 months ago, when he came to Kirkpatrick's Hotel, Mornington.
While at Dromana the late gentleman always took a lively interest in sport and the advancement of the
place generally. He was the chief one in the erection of the Catholic Church, and gave half an acre of land,
upon which it is built. He was also a great supporter of the church at Mornington, and his loss there will be
On Sunday the body, which was encased in a massive oak coffin, was conveyed to the Dromana Church,where service was held previous to the funeral which took place at 2.30, the remains being interred in the Dromana cemetery. The cortege was a lengthy one, and representative of the whole of the district. Several drag loads came from Mornington, including representatives from the Mornington Football and Athletic Sports Clubs, of which
the deceased was vice-president, the Mornington Racing Club, of which he was a patron, and a large number of
The coffin-bearers were Mr Hazledine (Dromana), Messrs Austin,Cooper, and W. Hurley (Sorrento),and Messrs J. Conroy, M. Daley, E.Burne (Byrne?) (Mornington). The Rev. Father O'Hagan officiated at the grave, and the mortuary arrangements were carried out most satisfactorily by Mr Summerland, of Mornington.Amongst the floral tributes was a magnificent wreath, sent by the Mornington Football Club. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 3-6-1911.)
MURPHY.— On the 5th March, at the Dromana Hotel, Dromana, Annie, beloved wife of Laurence Murphy. R.I.P.
(P.1, The Age, 6-3-1899.) There was no funeral notice and an obituary does not name the cemetery in which she was interred.
MURPHY. -On the 28th August at private hospital,South Yarra, Ann relict of the late Lawrence Murphy, late of Mornington, the loved mother of Sister Lawrence and Jack and Henry (on active service), and the beloved sister of Mrs Eliza O'Brien 8 Crown street Richmond and loved aunt of Jack O'Brien,aged 70 years. R.I P.(No flowers.)P.1, Argus, 29-8-1918.
The above makes it possible that Ann was the widow of a Mornington storekeeper (The Railway Store)whose son, one of the many Mornington footballers to drown in the 1892 was, strangely, buried in the DROMANA cemetery.
(24-5-1892. ALFRED HERBERT LAWRENCE, AGED 19.) However attempts to find a Jack/John or Henry Lawrence born at Mornington in the A.I.F. Project have been unsuccessful.
Larry would have been born in County Wicklow about 1849 and arrived about 1876 when he would have been about 27 years old. His first wife Annie was born in about 1855 and would have been about 21 in 1876 so she might have been already married to Larry or perhaps met him near Benalla. Annie's death notice,and gravestone, make no mention of children but her obituary does.
Quite a gloom was cast over the district when it became known that Mrs.Murphy, wife of Mr. L. Murphy, of
Dromana Hotel, had died suddenly. Some months ago she underwent a severe operation successfully, but it
apparently left her in a very weak state of health. However, it was not anticipated that her end was so near.
Last Saturday, whilst she was out mushrooming with her little daughter, she was seized with a fit. Dr. Somers was quickly called in attendance, but he gave up all hope and she passed away early on Sunday morning, never having regained consciousness.
The deceased lady was popular with everyone throughout the district, and was always ever ready to assist in any movement without any consideration for class or creed. Her many acts of kindness will long be remembered, and her demise is looked upon as an irreparable loss to the district. Great sympathy is evinced for her husband and family.
A large number of residents representing the whole of the peninsula, attended the funeral and the cortege was one of the longest ever seen in the district. The Rev. Father O'Hagan officiated at the grave, and delivered a most impressive service. (P.3, Mornington Standard,9-3-1899.)
Larry's second wife, Ann,would have been born in about 1848 and would have been about 51 years old when Larry's first wife died. It is unlikely that she and Larry would have had any children together, so Sister Lawrence, Jack and Henry must have been offspring from a previous marriage.
I had to include Larry's death notice (English version) here because it seems certain now that Jack and Henry, on active service in 1918, were sons of Larry's first wife and that the little daughter who was picking mushrooms with Larry's first wife in 1899 became a nun (not a nurse as I had first supposed) named Sister Lawrence. The second wife regarded the three children as being her children. That's why Larry's gravestone is inscribed "Erected by his loving wife and children.) Perhaps Anne had known and loved Annie's children for ages!
And here’s Larry’s death notice translated into English!
MURPHY.— On the 26th May, at Kirkpatrick's Hotel. Mornington, Lawrence, the dearly beloved
husband of Anne Murphy, and father of John, Henry and Annie, aged 63 years.
(P.13, Argus, 27-5-1911.) It would seem that Larry’s second wife had borne no children before her marriage to Larry and that Annie was the little daughter who was mushrooming with Annie, the first wife, in 1899 and became Sister Lawrence by 1918.
One of Annie's two sons (on active service by 1918) regarded as her own by his stepmother, Anne, was:
3878 MURPHY, John Lawrence National Trustees Company, 113 Queen Street, Melbourne, Victoria 23rd Battalion, 9th Reinforcement (details below.)
Regimental number 3878
Place of birth Mornington Victoria
Religion Roman Catholic
Address National Trustees Company, 113 Queen Street, Melbourne, Victoria
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 28
Next of kin Step-Mother, Mrs A Murphy, 10* Crown Street, Richmond, Melbourne, Victoria
Enlistment date 14 July 1915
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 23rd Battalion, 9th Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/49/3
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A69 Warilda on 8 February 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll Private
Unit from Nominal Roll 23rd Battalion
Fate Returned to Australia 6 November 1918
Place of burial Tidworth Military Cemetery (Row A, Grave No. 66), North Tidworth, Wiltshire
Panel number, Roll of Honour,
Australian War Memorial 99
*Next door to her sister, Eliza (Mrs O'Brien)of 8 Crown St.
Henry might have been married, his wife given as next of kin.
ALF DOWNWARD, HIS SON-IN-LAW, WILFRED PITT, AND THOSE HISTORIC REDWOOD GUMS AT THE END OF DOWNWARD ST, MORNINGTON.
Wilfred Pitt probably grew up on Tuerong Park, as I’ve just discovered. When Joan Downward told me in 2010 about the bloke that Ivy Downward had married, I had probably not known about the Pitt tenure on Tuerong Park. Excellent articles by Joan about the Downward genealogy and land near Tubbarubba can be found in BALNARRING BYWAYS AND MEMORIES. The following results from Wilfred Pitt’s association with the Mornington Bowling Club which celebrates its centenary in 2017.
Mr. Walker moved a vote of
thanks to Messrs Pitt*, Scott,
Ward and Mills for the work
they had done as committeemen
during their term of office.
(P.14, Standard, 23-9-1948.)
*On the south side of Wilson Rd was a property named Redwood which adjoined a property, granted to A.B.Balcombe, and fronting Strachans Rd named Redgum Flat. Both properties were named because of the ancient river red gums at the end of Downward St. Redwood, granted to T.W.Birmingham and F.Prickman (did I hear somebody laugh?) was bought by Alf Downward. Pitt St was named after Alf Downward's daughter, Ivy. (Source: Joan Downward.)
PITT (nee Ivy Downward).—On the 18th May at Santa Rosa private hospital, to Mr. and Mrs. W. Pitt, Redwood, Mornington—a son (Alfred Downward Leonard—prematurely). (P.1, Argus, 25-5-1947.)
WILFRED PITT WAS FROM DEVON IN ENGLAND. His best man, Arthur Pitt, was probably his brother.
Alf Downward had much property near Tubbarubba, (near the junction of the parishes of Moorooduc,Balnarring and Kangerong) and Ivy possibly met Wilfred during a trip to visit her brother, Herbert, at that locality as there was a Pitt property, Tuerong Park, on Three Chain (Moorooduc) road, by 1906. H.G.Pitt was probably Wilfred's father and would have been Alf's colleague on Mornington council.
Pitt St on the homestead block of "Redwood" was named after Ivy and Downward St was named after her unmarried sister, Elsie May*, who lived in the homestead with Ivy following Wilfred's death.
After the sisters had died, developers wanted to remove the Redwood Gums but a storm of protest saved them. (Cutting provided by Joan Downward and included in my THE FEMALE DROVER: A HISTORY OF MOOROODUC, 2010, provided to the Mornington Historical Society.)
GERALD HOUGHTON RICHARDSON, FIRST MANAGER OF ROSEBUD'S NATIONAL BANK IN 1946.
Did he stay long enough for anyone to remember him and Mona?
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 22 October 1955 p 8 Family Notices
... -GRAY. - The engagement ls announced of Mary Yvonne, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. G. H. Richardson, National ... Bank, Healesville, to Maurice Peter, youngest son of Mr. andi Mrs. A. .Gray, Donnellys Weir road .
The opening of the 1947-8 season revealed for the first time the name of the SMART greenkeeper and links with other clubs that were soon to form the peninsula association. Was a former Mornington treasurer involved in the formation of the Rosebud club?
CLUB'S OFFICIAL OPENING.
Before a record number of play
ers and spectators, the Morning
ton bowling green was oflicially
opened by Cr. B. I. Watson (Mornl
ington Shire president) last Satur
The greens looked a picture, and
the attractive appearance was
most favorably commented upon
by the large assemblage: The new
pavilion is an added attraction,
and a delightful afternoon tea was
The president of the Club (Cr.
A. J. Kirton) welcomed the visi
tors, among .whom were bowlers
and their wives from Frankston,
Sorrento, and Rosebud. Mr Ger
ald Richardson*, who was treasurer
of the Mornington Club prior to
removing to Rosebud, took part
in the day's enjoyment.(etc.)
(P.6, Standard, 16-10-1947.)
* NATIONAL BANK AT ROSEBUD.
The National Bank of Australasia
Ltd; will open a new branch at
Rosebud on Monday, June 3. This
establishment represents a conver
sion of the receiving office services
which the Mornington Branch has
conducted at Rosebud since 1927.
The new branch will be under the
management of Mr. G. H. Richard
son, formerly accountant, Morning
ton Branch, with Mr. A. B. Evans,teller.
(P.6, Standard, 30-5-1946.)
Unfortunately the Rosebud Bowls club history on the internet
does not mention the original committee but it's a fair bet that Gerald was involved. Gerald was working for the National Bank at Yarrawonga in 1934 when his wife (nee Mona Severin) gave birth to a daughter on 12 March. The birth was announced in a South Australian newspaper because Mona Mary Severin had been born at Eudunda, S.A. on 8-10-1899 and married Gerald Houghton Richardson in 1925, also in South Australia. Mona's parents were most likely descendants of early German pioneers.
RICHARDSON, Gerald Houghton & SEVERIN, Mona Mary
BOTTLE MESSAGE FROM THE SEA How Pirie Housewife Received It After 22½ Years
Recorder (Port Pirie, SA : 1919 - 1954) Thursday 26 May 1938 p 2 Article
In 1938 Gerald and Mona were in Swan Hill, according to the above article, so they obviously moved from one branch of the bank to another fairly regularly. This is a fascinating story about the husband of Mona's sister, Gladys.
RED HILL REUNION OCTOBER 2017.
The last reunion in March 2015 was well-attended despite many people having prior commitments, the Prossor clan being rather reunioned-out and the Rosebud High School and Hilli reunions being on the same weekend.
Another Red Hill reunion is planned for OCTOBER 2017. Could anybody planning another event which would clash with it ring or text me on 0490 253 134 so it can be arranged that those interested aren't forced to choose which one to support.
Readers will be able to alert distant relatives and friends about the "back to" and tell them about the wonderful histories that have recently been written, with details about pioneers such as Hill Hillis, the Daveys of Forest Lodge, the McKeowns, McIlroys, Blooming Bob White, the Blakeleys and Edward Barker, H.B.Simon, Watson Eaton, Thomas Chapman, the scalped Arkwell lad, George Cussons, the postmaster and his wonderful paintings of James Wiseman's homestead and the original Red Hill school, Barry Wright's family of Wildwood- with a huge collection of photos,and informative maps etc. Helen Blakeley's marvellous book will be launched at the reunion.
As soon as the possibility of a clash of local events has been prevented, I will provide updates (IN COMMENTS) regarding date and venue, If readers and the former residents with whom they're in contact know of a planned wedding etc it would help if they can let me know the date so a clash can be prevented if possible.
P.S. I don't know how many of the longtime residents have computers, so can readers who live near any of them please let them know if they don't read HILL 'N' RIDGE.
FATHER HORACE TUCKER, VICAR OF CHRIST CHURCH, SOUTH YARRA. It's a bit of a stretch to say that Father Tucker was a pioneer of the Mornington Peninsula but he was the reason that the Boyington lad plays footy for Rosebud. My former neighbour at Rosebud, Gordon, spent much of his childhood at the Tucker Village Settlement at Carrum during the 1930's depression, and then Frankston, where he lived until his wife died. As a teenager, Gordon Boyington roamed the the area near Frankston, including Mt. Eliza.
When I was researching the Red Hill Village Settlement, I was puzzled by an article about a Government party inspecting the Village Settlement at Red Hill and then being driven a few miles to the railway station. It turned out that this was not the settlement to which Prossors Lane provided access but was near Longwarry.
Helen Blakeley's family history supplies much information about OUR Red Hill but also adds greatly to Michael Cannon's description of the misery caused by the 1890's depression. The Government set up Village Settlements so the starving families could grow their own food but Father Tucker probably did this first.
THE TUCKER VILLAGE SETTLEMENTS. FIRST ANNIVERSARY AT WONWONDAH.
The Horsham Times (Vic. : 1882 - 1954) Friday 26 May 1893 p 4 Article
I'd never heard of Father Tucker until Gordon Boyington told me his life story which I have retold in my journal:
If I had not been asked for information about Ne Mourna at the Sisters near Sorrento, I would never have fluked discovering Father Tucker's details or the fact that his compassion dated from the earlier depression.
Biography - Horace Finn Tucker - Australian Dictionary of Biography
YET ANOTHER CONNECTION BETWEEN TULLAMARINE AND THE PENINSULA. When I was writing my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND (pages D 86-7) in about 1990, I had no idea where Jamieson's Survey was and I'd never heard of Henry Dunn.
Henry leased Jamieson's Special Survey (Safety Beach area, east to Bulldog Creek Rd) from 1846 to 1851 according to Colin McLear.Henry later received the grants in Moorooduc which led to the naming of Dunns Rd and "Four Winds" in Kangerong on the south corner of White Hill and McIlroys Rds at Red Hill. Edmund Dunn of Viewpoint at Tullamarine might have been Henry's brother.
As the 3000 plus pages of DHOTAMA are handwritten, I can't copy and paste but I'll transcribe the start of his biography on page 424 of VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS: PAST AND PRESENT. According to Edmond, he leased land on Jamieson's Survey for FIVE years before buying Viewpoint in 1849. The year of purchase could be right because the two grants comprising the farm were issued in 1843 and 1846 (one of the grantees being Andrew Baxter who was related to Ben Baxter of Carrup Carrup/ Mornington Junction/ Baxter according to a Baxter descendant.) The details of Edmund's native place, voyage and arrival might apply to Henry.
DUNN, Edmond, Broadmeadows, is a native of Devonshire, England who arrived on the WESTMINSTER in 1841 after a voyage of 100 days. He resided in the metropolis for a few years, working for other and doing a little farming on his own account, growing oats on a small patch of land on which Coburg now stands. After leasing some land on Jamieson's Survey for five years, in 1849 he purchased Viewpoint Farm at Brodmeadows and commenced growing wheat. The area of his farm is 325 acres and he also owns 3000 acres and leases 5000 acres on the Loddon. He was married in 1847 to Miss George, a native of Somersetshire, who came out on the same ship with him etc.
As expected, Valerie Wilson O.A.M., has written about Henry Dunn on her excellent Mornington Cemetery pioneers website.
The Dunn Family
Henry Dunn was born in 1808, the son of Charles and Thomasina (Hooper) Dunn.
He was a farmer and grazier, and a very early pioneer of the Mornington area.
From 1846 until 1851 he leased the land known as Jamieson’s Special Survey at Safety Beach, south of Mt Martha.
William Dunn was born to Henry and his wife Catherine in Moorooduc, in 1865.
Henry Dunn died in 1891 and he and Catherine are buried in the Mornington cemetery.
Oak Hill, Mornington – Tyabb Rd.
It is believed they are in the same grave as their son and his wife, but the headstone only acknowledges the presence of William Henry and wife, Betsy.
William Dunn purchased the property known as Park Hill in 1890, to run as a pastoral lease.
The property stretched from Mornington-Tyabb Road along Dunns Rd, to Bentons Rd, to Moorooduc Highway, and passed through three generations before being subdivided.
The homestead built on the property by William in 1892, is now the Oak Hill Gallery.
This is on part of the property which became the Mornington Peninsula Shire Civic Reserve in 1999.
William Dunn married Betsy Harrap in 1894, and together with his son Howard, later ran a dairy and a milk run from the property. The Dairy run was sold to James Sawyer in 1920.
William was also the local Pound Keeper.
William died in 1934 and Betsy in 1943.
Henry Dunn's biography was not in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS. It is significant that the Harraps had lived a few miles north of Tullamarine before moving to Mornington. The source for this is Neil Hamilton Mansfield's 700+ page THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY. As Harrap is not in the index, it will take many hours to find the reference. Henry Harrap's wife (nee Bennett, I believe) was born at Kilmore and buried at the Keilor Cemetery. In a roundabout way, she was related to me.
Edmond Dunn died in 1891, the same year as Henry.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 22 May 1891 p 1)
In 1868 the Melbourne Hunt whose master was Samuel Waldock caused much destruction as they rode through Viewpoint and Edmond's testimony at the trial in which he sued Waldock for damages shows that he retained links with the peninsula.
"Edmund Dunn, who stated,-I am a farmer at Tullamarine, in the neighbourhood of Broadmeadows." (He described the damage.)
"Cross-examined by Mr. FELLOWS.-I paid 6s. each for the sheep.
Mr. FELLOWS.-They were scabby, were they not?
Witness.-They were not. I bought them at Cape Schanck, from Mr. Anderson. I don't know why they were so cheap. I got them at 6s., because I suppose Anderson could not get more. They never had scab, and were never treated for it." (http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5831477…|||l-state=Victoria|||l-year=1868)
Edmund's brave stand against the prominent gentlemen of the Melbourne Hunt led to the formation of an organisation with a strange name but plenty of clout.
PAGE 3, ARGUS,4-8-1869.
The FENCE, HELD, and CHATTEL PRESERVATION LEAGUE.
A genealogical website indicates that Henry arrived on the same ship as Edmond (http://australiansurnamesgroup.yuku.com/topic/3696…)
her arrival in victoria in 1841 on ship Westminster - assisted immigrants victoria PROV
DUNN EDMUND 22 JUL 1841 WESTMINSTER 1 60
DUNN ELIZABETH 26 JUL 1841 WESTMINSTER 1 62
DUNN HENRY 28 JUL 1841 WESTMINSTER 1 56
DUNN MARY 38 JUL 1841 WESTMINSTER 1 56
Another genealogy website stated:
An Elizabeth and Edmund DUNN (brother and sister) arrive in Victoria 30 July 1841 aboard the WESTMINSTER Elizabeth aged 26 a housemaid living with her brother, Edmund aged 22 a lab. Both were protestants who could read and write. Also aboard the ship were a couple Henry 28 and Mary 38 also from Devon - can't say if they were connected as they are all listed separately. Edmund was to go to work for Dr THOMPSON. Henry was not engaged. (He was protestant who could read and write also)
It seems Henry died in Sn Point, Vic 1891 #17893 aged 83 parents Charles DUNN and Thomasina HOOPER (so born about 1808)
I checked and now I have found
Edmund DUNN baptised 17 Oct 1819 Sampford Courtney parents Charles and Thomasin (farmer) making Thomasin 48.
Henry and Edmund had the same parents, so I guess that made them brothers!
LAW REPORT. - SUPREME COURT. SITTINGS IN EQUITY. NEW COURT-HOUSE.—MONDAY, Nov. 2. (Before His Honour Mr. Justice Molesworth.) COLLINS V. ROB[?]INS. - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 4 Nov 1868
Having been unable to insert new information (stored in three Facebook posts in ITELLYA'S HISTORY STORAGE BOX) into the existing journal or break this journal into parts (pre 1900 etc.), I have decided to copy the existing journal into a word document. The existing journal (probably half of what has been written) occupies 125 pages (text only, 12 points.)On the word document, the surnames index will be placed at the start so that burial entries can be located quickly and the burial entries currently in the Facebook posts will be inserted.
The current SURNAMES INDEX will also be copied into this journal and regularly updated from the word document.
CURRENT (at 17-2-2017) ALPHABETICAL SURNAME INDEX.
ADAMS 1-4-1937, 1-11-1946; AUST 1970, 1979; ARKWELL 6-8-1951; BAKER 23-11-1938; BALDRY 5+-10-1932, 29-2-1936; BARKER 17-1-1948; BARNETT Late April, 1884; BARTHOLOMEW 25-7-1956, 1966; BENSON 7/8-4-1931; BERTUCH 14-9-1953; BEST 8-8-1950; BIRCH 11-6-1953; BRADY 11-10-1887; 13-1-1888, 1891; BLACKER 6-2-1952; BLAKELEY 14-5-1949; BOAG 18+-8-1903; BOWRING 21+-8-1908; BRADY 29-10-1953; BREAR 16-7-1936, 19-1-1948; BROWN 15-3-1947, 23-6-1956; BRYAN Mid July 1907; BUCHER 17-5-1928, (4?-7-1930-extensive genealogy re Henry and Ann’s offspring), 4-6-1943; 3-7-1944; BUCIRDE 28-2-1938; BURCHETT Late March 1945; BURNHAM 4-4-1919, 11-4-1951, 12-6-1951; BURRELL 24-5-1892, 27+-11-1906, 11+-4-1910, 30-3-1953; BUSH 24-7-1946; CAIRNS 27-7-1922, 23-3-1935,1-8-1937, 4-8-1937, 29-12-1943; CARRIGG 15-1-1941, 27-10-1944, 29-12-1944; CHADWICK 14-1-1943, 21-9-1956; CHAPMAN 3+-2-1898, 24-6-1940, 26-6-1940, 4-4-1947, 7-7-1950, 7-3-1953, 28-6-1956; CLARK 27-9-1937; CLAPHAM 28-2-1952; CLARKE 25-1-1924; CLYDESDALE 4+8-1910, 27?-7-1927, Mid Dec. 1937; COATES (17+)-1-1905; COBURN 8-12-1942, 11-9-1951; CONNELL Mid July, 1907; CONNELLY 10-6-1948; COOPER 23-1-1937; COPP 3+-4-1926, 19+-6-1941; CORNELL 8+-11-1897, 30-3-1953; CORNISH 31-3-1947; COUNSEL 18-6-1934, 24-10-1947; COWLISHAW (2nd Mrs H.W.Crichton 9+-4-1940), CRICHTON 21-1-1885, 26-4-1934, 9+-4-1940, 18-2-1942; CRISTALL / CRYSTALL 28-6-1956; CROMWELL 30-4-1906; CUSSONS 14-5-1949; DAVIDSON 28?-7-1956; DAVIS 29-6-1953; DEWAR 27-10-1944; DITTERICH 21-3-1947, 31-12-1956: DOWLING 11-10-1927; DUNHAM 19-1-1931; DYSON 16?-3-1908, 27?-9-1927, 22-10-1936, Mid Dec. 1937, 18-8-1943, 28-7-1944, (13+-12-1945?); EDWARDS 28?-7-1956; EVANS 31-3-1947; FAIRWEATHER 4-11-1922; FARRANT 21-4-1954; FARRELL 9-11-1938; FIELD 11-11-1917; FISHER 5-3-1951; FOX 8+-3-1909?, (6+)-9-1939; GADDES 24-9-1934; GADDES-BROWN 15-3-1947; GADSBY 10-11-1945; GAMBLE 16-7-1936; GEORGE 4-7-1906; GIBSON 23-9-1900, !+-6-1901, 11-10-1911, 5+-12-1916, 23-1-1937, 26-6-1940, 22-8-1942, 23-2-1944, 4-4-1947, 27-5-1949; GRACE 23-1-1937; GRAY 12-11-1946; GRIFFITH 11-10-1927, 24-7-1936; HADDOW 4-8-1937; HALDAN 16-11-1876; HARMER 6-12-1913 (not 1918); HAZLEDINE 13+11-1916, 24-8-1935; HELYAR 30-3-1953; HENDERSON 16-11-1876; 20-1-1875, mid Jan., 1905, 28-7-1944; HENNESSY Rev. 2-8-1935; HIGGENS 13-5-1944; HIGGINS 15-1-1929; HILLIS mid Sept., 1895, 15-10-1900, 15-1-1935; HIPWELL (RONNIE'S ASHES (11+)-11-1956); HITCHINER 1970; HOLDEN 21?-8-1934; HOLLAND 16-7-1936; 19-1-1948 ; HOLMES 11-11-1917; HUDD 12-4-1952; INGLEFINGER 23-5-1940; JAMES (24?)-1-1907, 8-11-1921, 5-5-1941; JAMIESON 29/30-6-1888, 19-9-1919; (21+)-3-1893; JINNETTE 3-5-1944; JOHNSON 23-11-1929; JORDAN 27-4-1919, 22-4-1932, 12-4-1956; JOYES 23-10-1905; KEMP 6-3-1956; KIDGELL 29-8-1939, 29-2- 1940; KNIGHT 22-9-1952; LACCO 7-8-1934; LAWRENCE 24-5-1892 (Mornington Disaster); LINDSAY 29-7-1950; LOVELL 1-5-1954; McILROY 15-1-1935, 22-9-1926, 8-5-1937, 4-4-1942; McKEOWN (10+-3-1920, James, no death notice yet.); 7+-3-1928; 30-7-1930, 12-3-1932, 26-10-1932, 10-12-1936, 16-9-1945, 17-1-1950, 18-12-1950, 30-5-1953; McLEAR 16+-6-1918, 23-1-1937, 28-3-1950, 24-7-1950,(Salena (7+)-6-1966); 1970; MARTIN 18-2-1943; MATTHEWS 10-12-1943, 26-9-1945; MILLER (Flinders) 9-7-1956; MOAT 17+-12-1898, (8+)-3-1904, 25-1-1908, 11-6-1939, 6-7-1941; MORLET end Jan 1890; MURPHY 6?-3-1899, 28-5-1911; MYRING 12-4-1956; NASH May/June 1908,husband Frederick on 17-9-1940 (not 1910), daughter Frances Elizabeth on 28?-7-1956; NICHOL 23-11-1953; NICHOLS 3-7-1944; O'MALLEY 26-4-1949; PATTERSON 4-6-1943,(31-3-1947?) 8-8-1949; PAYNE 3-3-1950; PEATEY 24-7-1945, 16-1-1946, 24-10-1950, 22-8-1952, 19-6-1981; PEEBLES 23-11-1929; PERCIVAL 21-8-1940; PICKING 3-3-1950; PROSSER 24-7-1936; PURDIE 11-10-1911; PURVES 7-11-1913; RENOUF 24-7-1936; RICE 25/6-1-1933, 29-3-1937; ROBERTS mid Sept., 1895, 5-5-1941, 29-10-1953; ROSS 17-7-1915; RUDDUCK (17+)1-1905, 23-5-1930, 10-1-1935, (memorial only 1956); SAWYER 24-7-1936; SAXTON 13-8-1948; SELF 25-8-1937; SHAND (Mrs H.W.Crichton 9+-4-1940); SHAW 6-9-1905, 24-3-1912, 26-10-1932, 16-9-1945; SHEEHAN 6?-5-1945, 16-4-1956; SIMPSON 9-7-1956; SINCLAIR 23-8-1892;SINGLETON 22-10-1936, 28-7-1944, 27-11-1945; SMITH 20-5-1930; SPENCER 3-7-1935; STANLEY 11-10-1927; SUMBLER 9-1-1948; SYMONDS 27-7-1922; TAYLOR 31-5-1895, (21+)-4-1935, 13-2-1950; TINKLER 10+-4-1917; TOMLINS 2-7-1937; TOWNSEND (3-2-1936 contains all Townsend genealogy and biography found so far); TUCK 11-10-1927; TUDOR, 4-6-1946; TWISS 11-6-1948, 13-1-1951; TWYCROSS 14-12-1936, 26-11-1954; VINE 26-10-1932; WALTERS 5-9-1949; WAPLES May/June 1908; WARREN 26+-10-1919, 26-4-1948; WEBB 24+-8-1934, 18-10-1936); WELLING 30-4-1906; WHEELER 30-7-1948; WHITAKER 3-11-1947, 11-2-1948; WHITE 8-11-1921, 4?-7-1930, 20-12-1937, 5-5-1941, 28-1-1947, 3-5-1955; WILSHER 25-7-1956; WILSON 24-1-1919, Late Sept. 1945, 4-8-1948; WILSON (James, descendant of Sarah Wilson) 28-7-1954; WYSE 3-3-1939, 26-9-1945; WOOD (mother of Cr.F.E.Wood 24-12-1947); WRIGHT Late March 1945; YOUNG 10-12-1943, 17+-7-1944, 26-9-1945;
As burial entries, except for those already in the journal, will not be available on family tree circles, send me (itellya)a private message detailing the surname for which you'd like the burial entries) and you'll have these within days. When I have completed the journal, or done as much as I'm humanly able to do, I will provide the file to the Dromana and District Historical Society and any computer literate member should be able to supply the burial entries. As most burial entries contain death and funeral notices, you should be able to work out which ones concern your family. Some entries contain information supplied by members of the HISTORY OF DROMANA TO PORTSEA Facebook group and by joining this group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/251032988414470/) you will be able to send a private message to members who possess extensive information not given by me.
Many of those for whom entries are written are not listed in www.ozgenonline.com/~vic_cem/dromana/dromanaaf_data.htm
and I have not written entries for many of those who are in the ozgen list because my focus was on writing about pioneers, their descendants (when known or discovered), long-time early residents and slightly later residents whose contribution to the district could be demonstrated.