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Dear XXX, what do you know about the Five Mile Estate mentioned by Batey in his HISTORICAL RECORDS OF THE SUNBURY REGION? Where would this have been? Regards, John.

This is probably going to take some time but the one clue we have is that it was in the Sunbury area. I believe that the Five Mile Estate was named because of its proximity to a stream with the hardly unique name of Five Mile Creek. The creek of this name which flowed through Woodlands Park and Salmon Reserve at Hawstead (Melway 28 F-G1) to join the Moonee Ponds Creek at 28 K2, is geographically out of the question.

This could be a clue.

Witness said he would hold to his original bargain. About a week afterwards witness went up to Lancefield to see the cattle. Found them in Mr. Mooney's paddock, near Sunbury, about 13 miles from Lancefield.

Was in possession until the next Sunday, when he was given in charge of two constables, and the cattle taken away by Mr. Mooney's men. They were driven away to Mooney's paddock at Five Mile Creek.
(P.5, Argus, 30-10-1858, LAW REPORT,CLOUGH AND OTHERS v MOONEY.)

Mooney's paddock was about 13 miles from Lancefield. Therefore it was 7 miles north of the corner of Rae's Rd and Melbourne-Lancefield Rd, which is 32 km (20 miles)from Lancefield. Another way to locate Mooney's paddock is to covert 13 miles to 20.8 km and measure that distance south from Lancefield on Melway touring map 509. This would place Mooney's paddock 3 km south of the Bolinda roundabout near the corner of the road that goes west to Riddells Creek.

It is presently only a theory that the Five Mile Estate was near the Five Mile Creek but the location near Bolinda would have certainly been in Isaac's area of interest.

Hopefully I will find more tomorrow. Due to your query, I discovered how she oaks got their funny name; see my latest journal.

Another theory is that the Five Mile Estate was five miles in extent east-west or north-south. In my SHE OAK journal, I mentioned a feeling that Feehan was associated with the Five Mile Estate, a fairly accurate feeling because Feehan lived next to it.

Before the sale, John Ryan, with James Feehan, if not greatly in error, were located on the Deep Creek, close to what is the Five Mile Estate. I fancy P. Maher was there before 1854.
Sunbury News (Vic. : 1900 - 1910) Saturday 27 August 1910 p 2 Article.

It is likely that John Ryan was James Feehan's father in law.

This was a petition by Mrs. Mary Feehan,
praying for an inquiry by the master in equity
as to whether her husband, James Feehan,
was of sane mind and capable of managing
his affairs. The petition was presented
through Mr. J. Ryan, the father of Mrs.
Mr. A'Beckett appeared for the petitioner;
Mr. Lawes for Mr. Feehan.
James Feehan was a farmer at Berwick,
but he had freehold land also at Corop, and
leased land at Deep Creek, Bulla. It was
alleged that he had been in the Yarra Bend
Asylum some years ago as a lunatic; that he
afterwards obtained his release; that in
August last he was again placed in the
asylum by an order signed by Mr. F. Call,
police magistrate. etc. (P.9, Argus, 26-10-1880.)

It is highly likely that Feehans Rd (Melway key map 8 between Wildwood Rd and Konagaderra Springs) indicates the location of James Feehan's leased land and that the Five Mile Estate was north of it,near Fenton Hill. If the estate extended north for five miles,guess what,it would include Long John Mooney's paddock at Five Mile Creek.

And guess what! When William Samuel Cox was forced off the Kensington Park Racecourse in 1882, he moved his operations to Feehan's Farm. Feehan had bought Long John Mooney's grant on what is now part of the Moonee Valley Racecourse. The deal was discussed as they rode north to a property, which was possibly the Five Mile Estate!
(Don't ask me about the source of the Mooney/Feehan deal. It could be one of the Keilor souvenirs or a cutting about Moonee Valley Racecourse,neither of which I now have. The Kensington Park info is from titles documents.)

The following confirms that Fenton Hill, the Bolinda Estate and, presumably,the Five Mile Estate were in close proximity.

BUSH FIRE.--Dense volumes of smoke rising in the direction of Bulla on Tuesday told its own tale that a bush fire,and one of no mean proportions, was raging. The fire commenced at Fenton's Hill, on Sir Rupert Clarke's property, at about 11 o'clock, and in a very short space of time a large number of fire beaters were battling with the flames. But with an abundance of grass and a strong north wind their efforts were futile for some time, and it was not until dark that the fire was extinguished. The Deep Creek acted as a break, and it was there that the fire ceased. Sir Rupert Clarke was a heavy loser, part of the Bolinda Estate and the Five-Mile being burnt. Mr. James Feehan was the only other land owner who suffered, he estimating his loss at about 100 acres, besides fencing. Mr. Feehan was fortunate in saving the homestead and a quantity of hay stacked in close proximity,, both of which were in serious danger at one time of the fire.
(P.2, Sunbury News and Bulla and Melton Advertiser, 13-1-1900.)


I'd never seen a mention of the above two pioneers in a Broadmeadows history. That's just the reason that I embarked on a bicentennial project in August 1988, to acknowledge pioneers overlooked by professional historians who are more concerned with themes than people. My aim was to provides real detailed information for family historians, not just a name in a list. To me, they were just names in a list until Irene sent me a private message. This journal will consist of our conversation.

The location of Strathoer is still not proven and it may well have been Mornington Park, now Maygar Barracks and Northedge Industrial Park east of the Will Will Rook cemetery and adjoining GLENROY and Alexander Gibb's Meadowbank. Locations given were really vague in the 1850's, such as Moonee Ponds meaning anywhere near the Moonee Ponds, and if this farm (12 miles from Melbourne,just like Strathoer) was regarded as being "near Broadmeadows", Walter McFarlane may have been leasing all or part of it as STRATHOER. I had thought that Strathoer was the name of a house in Broadmeadows Township when Irene first contacted me.

2014-02-25 05:19:35
I have been searching for the hereabouts of 'Strathoer', so thank you for the information that it was situated at the end of Fawkner Street, Moonee Ponds. I thought it might have been further north because of the connection with Campbellfield.
Walter Macfarlane married Elizabeth Anderson - daughter of Joseph Anderson. Joseph Anderson, a builder arrived in Port Phillip with his wife Ann in 1838. Joseph also lived in Moonee Ponds at 'Burn Head'. His son Samuel Anderson died at his father's house and the funeral went to the Melbourne General Cemetery.
Walter Macfarlane was the Secretary of the Agricultural Society. I would appreciate to any more information you may have and am willing to exchange anything I do have on Walter MacFarlane.

2014-02-25 08:16:44
Fawkner St in Broadmeadows Township (now Westmeadows)is at Melway 5, K7. Moonee Ponds,in early days had nothing to do with the suburb and meant anywhere along the Moonee Ponds Creek (which bisected Broady Township.)
By coincidence,last night I was writing about John Anderson who became the baker at Broadmeadows township in the 1880's and discovered JOSEPH ANDERSON of Broadmeadows.

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 11 March 1868 p 4 Family Notices
... ANDERSON.-On the 9th inst., at Lal Lal, Annie Leslie, wife of Mr. Joseph Anderson, of Broadmeadows and

Did Joseph Anderson have any descendants named John (born at Keilor 1862), Peter or Alexander?

THE Friends of Mr. JOSEPH ANDERSON (late of Broadmeadows and Bacchus Marsh) are invited to follow the remains of his late wife to the place of interment, Melbourne General Cemetery. -
The funeral is appointed to move from the residence of his son, Mr. Adam Anderson, No. 2 Mackenzie street (near the Gaol*), at three o'clock on Saturday,the 14th instant.JOHN SLEIGHT, undertaker, No. 83 Collins street east. (P.8,Argus,13-3-1868.)
*Possibly Old Melb. Gaol or at Bacchus Marsh unless Mackenzie St at Pentridge has been renamed.

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 13 March 1868 p 4 Family Notices
... DEATHS. ANDERSON - On the 9th Inst, at Lal Lal, Annie Leslie, wife of Mr. Joseph Anderson, an old colonist, and late of Broadmeadows and Bacchus Marsh, aged sixty-five years. ..

I see where you got Moonee Ponds from. It would have been only one and a half miles from the present Moonee Ponds Junction miles to Flemington bridge and if Burn Head was in the suburb of Moonee Ponds, the procession would travel at the ridiculously
slow speed of 1.2 kilometres an hour. Broady Township is about 7.3 miles north of Moonee Ponds Junction,making it 8.8 miles to Flemington Bridge and giving a speed of 4.4 miles an hour, a very brisk walking pace. This, the Wally/Lizzie marriage and "late of Broadmeadows" (as above)would indicate that Burn Head was a house in Broadmeadows Township. Your assumption that Strathoer was farther north (on the same latitude as Campbellfield) was correct.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 20 August 1857 p 8 Family Notices
... Melbourne General Cemetery. The funeral pro- i cession to move from his residence, Burn Head, Moonee Ponds, at eleven, and pass the Flemington Bridge about one o'clock this

May I use your message and my reply in the journal?

2014-02-26 20:24:21
For some reason my reasoning for Strathoer's location is not submitting here. Send your email address or just email me on (deleted). Regards, xxxxxxxxx, Rosebud.

2014-02-26 23:11:50
My email address is (deleted).
Thanks for all your info. I am enjoying all your information. Today I received 'Broadmeadows - A forgotten History by Andrew Lemon. As you refer to it all the time I thought it was a 'must have book' in my library.
My head is spinning about this area as we have Walter Macfarlane, Alexander Cruickshank and Joseph Anderson (Walter & Alexander S-I-L of Joseph) living in the area at one time or other. Next week I am going to SLV to search through directories to see if I can trace them that way. Our Joseph Anderson arrived Port Phillip 1838. He was a builder. insolvent, farmer. He lived in Elizabeth St etc, Moonee Ponds, Craigieburn, Lal Lal, Bacchus Marsh and finally Avenel (Monea South) Unfortunately Joseph Anderson Patton that as far as I know is not related was in the same areas.
At the moment, I am researching Carron Timber Yards, Flinders Street that Joseph's son Adam Anderson was a partner, so I was pleased to find info from you re the Cairns family. Thank you very much! Hope to be my first journal in FTC.


Informing her that I would not be writing any more about her family so I wouldn't spoil her journal and letting her know about my comment under my SOME FARMSIN THE SHIRE OF BROADMEADOWS journal,i.e.
Yet another link has been found between the Mornington Peninsula and Broady.I don't know whether any of the pioneering Cairns family of Boneo were directly linked with the Carron timber mill in Melbourne but their stepbrothers were. Joseph Anderson had a place called Burn Head at Moonee Ponds (probably Broadmeadows Township) in the 1850's; his son, Adam, became a partner in the Carron Timber mill and his daughter married Walter MacFarlane of Strathoer, near Broadmeadows and adjoining Glenroy. Because millyhettie and camcairns sent me private messages, they will now be able to share their information. The former's first post is on the way.

Once again,thanks to Scott Jangro who makes all of this connection between researchers possible.

Known facts about Strathoer. 1. Grazing paddock.* 2 Near Broadmeadows (Township.)**
3. Adjoined Glenroy.* 4.12 miles from Melbourne.*
(*Grazing for horses advertisement. **Family notices.)

Route chosen. From G.P.O. along Elizabeth St, Flemington and Mt Alexander Rd to Moonee Ponds and then Pascoe Vale Rd. Why Pascoe Vale Rd rather than Deep Creek Road to Broadmeadows(now Mickleham)road, crossing the creek at Broadmeadows Township?

The first bridge in the township, a timber one linking the two ends of Ardlie St, was built in 1854, after the grazing advertisement appeared. The creek banks are very steep so it would be a great feat to cross without a bridge on horseback and absolutely impossible with a wheeled vehicle. Therefore the original route to Sydney would be used to reach Strathoer until 1854, that is past the (original)Young Queen Inn at Pascoeville.

Measurement. On all Melway maps mentioned, 8cm equals a mile. Any inaccuracy in distance is caused by the original surveyors (the boundary, fronting Sharps Rd, Tullamarine of crown sections 21 Doutta Galla and 3 Tullamarine not being EXACTLY 8000 links (a mile) as shown on both parish maps),or by the Melway map makers.

1 MILE. Cnr. Blackwood St and Flemington Rd (43 F4.)
2 MILES. Cnr. Melrose St and Flemington Rd (43 C2.)
3 MILES. North Cnr. Ailsa St and Mt Alexander Rd (28 K11.)
4 MILES. North corner of Alexandra Ave and Pascoe Vale Rd (28 J7.)
5 MILES. Sth. cnr. of Brewster St. and Pascoe Vale Rd. (28 J3.)
6 MILES. Progress St corner (16 K12.)
7 MILES. Adelaide St corner (16 H8.)
8 MILES. Chapman Ave corner 16 G4.)
9 MILES. Where Rowan St would met Pascoe Vale Rd (6 G12.)
10 MILES. Just north east or west of the Johnstone St/Camp Rd overpass.

MILE POSTS. I know for a fact that there was a 10 mile post outside the Parr property at Tullamarine but my measurement shows that the ten mile point is outside Thomas Anderson's early farm and about a furlong (200 metres) before the location of the 10 mile post. I believe that the three mile post was located at Moonee Ponds Junction but my measurement shows that the actual junction was just short of 4 miles. The post office may have been closer to the Yarra in those days but I also think there was more estimation than measurement in the placement of the mile posts as well.

Exact measurement would not determine the location of Strathoer, so I tried another approach. I did a trove search for BROADMEADOWS, 12 MILES and found:
Warrnambool Standard (Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Friday 7 August 1914 Edition: COUNTRY EDITION p 1 Article The site for the mobilisation or all troops of all arms in Victoria has been selected at Broadmeadows, 12 miles north of Melbourne.

Joseph Anderson,by that time living at Bacchus Marsh, was involved as a witness in a dispute over the will of Thomas Graham in 1871. (See P.7, Argus,16-8-1871, column 6,Law Report,Graham v Graham.)

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Found this while chasing Bulla/Broady and Mornington connections.

Messrs. A. E. Gibson and Co. report having sold by private contract, on behalf of Messrs. James Harrick and Son, 200 acres at Tullamarine, being the eastern portion of part of Crown portion 3, to Mr. George Mansfield.
(P.21, Argus,5-3-1910.)

Gordon Connor told me that George had built the Dalkeith homestead in 1910. Spot on!

Section 3 Tullamarine, granted to William Foster and consisting of 640 acres, fronted the north side of Sharps Rd, Tullamarine west of Broadmeadows Rd. The northern boundary,Post Office Lane,is indicated by the north boundary of Trade Park industrial estate. It also fronted the road to Broadmeadows Township (now Mickleham Rd) to the Londrew Court/Freight Rd midline. William inherited and returned home with his younger brother,John adding William's 1280 acres to his own "Leslie Banks" between Fosters Rd (now Keilor Park Drive)and the river.

In 1847 a road was declared between North Melbourne and Bulla. Land north east of it was leased in portions and soon David William O'Niall had established the Lady of The Lake Hotel just a triangular 1.5 acre block* south of the Derby St corner.(*This still exists,with a Melrose Drive frontage the width of a fence post, and was part of section 6.)Broombank (Millar Rd, Tadstan Drive) and the Junction Hotel and associated land (Northedge and Andlon/Londrew Courts)took up the rest of the triangle.

What is now Trade Park was sold to Methodists such as Charles Nash and Ann Parr and the Methodist Church was built on the north corner of the present Trade Park Drive in 1870. Before that the Wesleyans had bought a one acresite on the bend in Cherie St and established a Wesleyan School in 1855 that operated until 1884 when the Conders Lane school opened on the present Link Rd north corner,also replacing the "Seafield" school.

South of the Catherine Avenue/Janus St Midline,the remaining 400 acres were bought by the Kilburns who called it"Fairfield". David Milburn,Victoria's first irrigator, seemed to be leasing it in 1868 and it was later leased by the Williamsons for many years. James Harrick,whose homestead is now the museum of the Keilor Historical Society later bought the property and split it into two 200 acre farms. The farm west of the Fisher Grove houses became Michael Reddan's "Brightview" (later Doyle's "Ristaro") while the eastern half was Dalkeith. This was owned by George Mansfield, T.and Ernie Baker (who had a bad accident), Tommy Loft* (who subdivided 40 acres for the Dalkeith Ave, Eumarella St and Gordon St housing), Leslie King Dawson and Moorooduc's former postmaster, Percy Hurren, who'd earlier snored during sermons while near Red Cliffs, according to Mrs David Shepherd.
(*Tommy Loft called a meeting to form the progress association in 1924 and in 1929 had Squizzy Taylor's haunt,the Junction Hotel closed, much to the displeasure of the local drinkers.His son,Ray, married Maggie Millar,lived at 3 Eumarella St,leased and then owned "Broombank",hence Millar Rd,and had a son named Gordon,after whom Gordon St was named.)


Text wouldn't submit but was luckily saved and will be submitted when the OH NOES gremlins buzz off.
If you still have yesterday's Sunday Herald Sun (9-2-2014) have a look at "Packenham it in" on page 57.

When my twin brother and I were about five we were driven to Grandma Cock's at Bunyip for Christmas dinner. As it was over 100 degrees and dinner was cooked on a slow combustion stove, we were glad to escape to the relative coolness of the blazing sun after our meal. After dad died,my brother and I would be taken to platform 1 at Spencer St Station to catch the train to Bunyip. We loved the train, because, both having ants in the pants, we could spend most of our journey wandering the aisle that ran the length of one side of the carriage. We either stayed with mum's sister, Grace (Mrs Hinson) or Les and Jess Roberts at the top of the hill.

As mum had to work to support us we were later allowed to travel on our own,just like big people, to stay with Auntie Grace or Jess Roberts, who was a life-long friend of mum (nee Edna Cock.) Although we had driven through Pakenham at the age of five, the place had not yet become part of my being. Later, as a typical smutty teenager the name of Pakenham Upper burned its way into the part of my brain that manufactures corny jokes.

When I got a car and a licence, Pakenham became very much part of the romance of the drive to Bunyip, along with places like Officer, Tynong, Nar Nar Goon etc and John Towner's pub. (After John Coleman's career-ending injury, John Towner looked likely to become the next Coleman until he was crudely propelled into the fence and was never the same afterwards.)

Thus when I read page 57 of the Sunday Herald Sun of 9-2-2014, I felt compelled to write a journal about a part of my past,just as I had about Campbells Creek. The headline was "Packenham it in." I would have used "Packenham up"! Daryl Timms' article is presented virtually verbatim with some re-ordering to give genealogy and track information separately. Don't be too hard on Timmsy about his south west gaffe; I have to be on constant guard not to make the same blue.

Gavan and Hughie Bourke (pictured)have vivid memories of growing up in the family home located on what was later to be named Racecourse Rd.There were seven Bourke siblings and their backyard was the racetrack which was founded in 1875. The Bourke link with the racetrack goes back to Ireland in 1838 when Michael Bourke married Catherine Kelly in County Limerick,leaving for Australia on their wedding day and arriving in Melbourne on St. Patrick's Day,March 17, 1839. After five years they gained a squatter's licence and selected land in the Pakenham district. They had 15 children, but two died in infancy and it was their youngest son,David Joseph Bourke, who farmed land on the current racetrack site and allowed races on his paddock.

After the death of David it was sons Hugh and Michael who played the crucial role of keeping the club alive. Despite pressure for the site to become Crown land,the Bourkes agreed to sell the track to the racing club for 25 000 pounds ($50 000)in a deal finalised in 1957. "It was about a quarter of what it was worth,but back then our family wanted it to stay a racetrack forever and we always thought it would, " Hughie said this week.

Brother Gavan agrees that it's sad that the track,on a 27 hectare site and sold for redevelopment for $30 million,will be part of the massive suburbia explosion in the heart of Pakenham. The first races had been annual amateur picnic meetings,the only meetings between 1896 and 1909 being on New Year's Day,but in December 1926 the club moved to regular,professional meetings with the inaugural Pakenham Cup after 4000 pounds (raised with the help of locals) was spent to upgrade and remodel the track as demanded by the government. The Bourkes leased the track to the club for free on the condition that profits benefited public amenities.

It will be an emotional time today (9-2-2014)for the Bourke clan when the track hosts its final meeting-featuring the Pakenham Cup- as the club prepares to move to a new track and multmillion dollar development on 246 hectares of farmland at Tynong , 10 km east of Pakenham and 65 km south west (sic; southeast) of Melbourne.

I don't know whether anyone is writing a Bourke family history. Perhaps it might be a descendant living far
(see comment 2.)

P.183, MEMOIRS OF A STOCKMAN, Harry Huntington Peck.
Old Mrs. Bourke who was the landlady of the Pakenham hotel at
the bridge over the Toomuc creek for so many years was an
institution of the district. She was most popular with the Gippsland
travellers and drovers as she took pains to make all visitors
comfortable. Her fine sons David and Daniel prospered as graziers
and bought good properties, the one Llowalong originally part of
Iiushy Park on the Avon near Stratford, and the other Old
Monomeith, where the next generation Hughie and Michael, trading
as Bourke Bros., are to-day the largest regular suppliers of baby beef
to Newmarket, are well known as the owners of show teams of
first-class hunters and hacks, and of late years have been very
successful in principal hurdle and steeplechase races.

BUNYIP.-Messrs. E. Dawes, J. Cock, A. Holgate, J. Gibb, and W. Head have been appointed trustees of the soldiers' war memorial. (P. 10,Argus,10-8-1939.)

On Sunday night Mr. J. Binney, a visitor from Glenferrie, accompanied by Mr.F.W.Cock, of the New Bunyip Hotel, caught a fine blackfish in the Bunyip River. The fish, which measured 23 3/4 inches in length and
13 inches in girth, turned the scale at 4 3/4 lbs. This was the only fish which
the two anglers captured, but it is reported that Mr. Cock caught a cold.

Potato crops at North Bunyip are even better than those on Kooweerup Swamp, but digging has temporarily
ceased owing to the bottom having dropped out of the market. Mr. P. McIvor's crop is estimated to yield
from 10 to 12 tons to the acre, as also will Mr. F. W. Cock's Carmens. Messrs T. Devenay and Geo. Norman
are also digging crops that are giving splendid returns. (Bunyip Free Press and Berwick Shire Guardian (Vic. : 1914 - 1915) Thursday 4 February 1915 p 3 Article.)

Bunyip Rifle Club. The annual meeting of members of the Bunyip Rifle Club took place at the Mechanics' Hall this (Thursday)evening, when Mr. E. Head occupied the chair. The balance-sheet showed a credit of £22 for the year, which was considered satisfactory. It was decided to hold a banquet, to befollowed by a dance, on the evening of Tuesday, 31st August. Office bearers for the ensuing year were elected as follows Captain, Mr. T.
Slattery; vice-captain, Mr. H. Simpson ; hon. secretary, Mr. J. Cock; treasurer, Mr. E. Head. Votes of thanks were passed to those who donated trophies last year. (Bunyip Free Press and Berwick Shire Guardian (Vic. : 1914 - 1915) Thursday 19 August 1915 p 2 Article)

My maternal grandfather, Frederick William Cock,son of John Cock,probably spent most of his childhood and youth on Stewarton/ Gladstone (the northern 777 acres of today's Gladstone Park) which John occupied from 1892 till his death at the very end of 1911. As Fred's father got into trouble for tax avoidance, perhaps they could make an UNDERBELLY episode about my family!

A Technical Charge.
Inspector Allen, of Public Health Department proceeded against Fredk.Cock for having rum under proof in a bottle for sale. Mr. Hamilton, who appeared for defendant, explained that his client was the victim of another
person's fault. The wholesale people in Melbourne did the breaking down, Mr. Cock having nothing whatever to do with it. Even then the liquor was only one fraction under proof. The Inspector agreed to a small fine being imposed with the lowest possible costs. Fined 10/- with 21/- costs. (Bunyip Free Press and Berwick Shire Guardian (Vic. : 1914 - 1915) Thursday 12 November 1914 p 3 Article)

I never met Fred who died before I started my Bunyip holidays but I certainly remember my first Christmas Dinner on what I presume was his Closer Settlement block (down the road from the footy ground.) It was about 100 degrees farenheit and the dinner was cooked on the slow combustion stove. The house was like an oven! It had two rooms, all socialising done in the kitchen, while the bedroom was partitioned with material,one part being Grandma Cock's and the other shared by Uncles Jack, Stan and Ray.

Fred's younger brother, Alf, who remained in the Tullamarine area (Glenview in Annadale Rd), must have visited Fred often because he married a Wood girl whose family lived in Longwarry.

I will attempt to find some of the information that I emailed to someone who was researching Alf's Glenview at Tullamarine. Alf's daughter married a Wood lad from Minyip(1) but if I remember correctly his family was related to the Wood family near Bunyip(2). Alf received the grant for his Arundel Closer Settlement block but the name of the person who was originally allocated the block was WOOD.(3)
(1)ENGAGEMENTS.Jean, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs.Alfred Cock, of Glenview, Tullamarine,to Kenneth C., son of the late Mr. and Mrs. E. B. Wood, of Minyip.(The Argus, Tuesday 7 June 1938 p 5 Family Notices.)
(2) Could take years to find the link.
(3)We take the following from the Sunbury News :-As a result of the special land board, held at the Lands office, the whole of the Arundel and Annandale portions of the Overnewton estate were allotted to settlers, and not one-half of the applicants for blocks could be supplied. The land was subdivided into 22 holdings of areas
ranging from seven to 122 acres, with values ranging from £185 to £1,175, and in the case of the homestead, £3,100, the total value being about £16,000. - Altogether 50 applicants appeared before the board, and these, it was shown by their applications, were worth, on an average, about £300 each, in a number of cases being persons worth over £1,000. Evidence of the applicants was taken, and great difficulty was experienced in determining between the claims in many cases.
The following were successful: Block 1,66a., Patrick Fox, Keilor; block 2, 61a.,T. L. Andeason, Bacchus Marsh; block 3, 52a., J. Angus, Moonee Ponds; block 4, 59a., E. Angus, Moonee Ponds; block 5,70a., A. Wallace, Cranbourne; block 6,80a., J. Buchanan, Launching-place; block 7, 86a., A. Williamson, Moonee Ponds; block 8, 113a., Elizabeth Williamson, Moonee Ponds; block 9, 120a., M.Geraghty, Keilor; block 10, 114a., G.Woods, Longwarry; block 11, 32a., C.Youren, Albert Park; block 12, lla., J.M'Farlane, South Yarra; etc.
(P.3, The Bacchus Marsh Express, 16-12-1905.)

Dad, Jim Gibb, was a full forward who played for Bunyip and was only displaced as full forward in the pre 1940 team by the great Wally Toy (who I presume was Barry's dad.) Dad also played for Longwarry so I could not be accused of favouritism when I umpired a Bunyip v Longwarry game. My older brother,Ken, who attended Bunyip State School and has contributed much to Bunyip's historical record, wasn't a bad footballer but after dad moved to Melbourne to work at Krafts,he was one of several Essendon High School students faced with the impossible task of stopping University High's full forward who was to create history as Hasting's Deadshot Jack (John Coleman.)

It would be hard to imagine Bunyip's modern teams being competitive against the river of little fish (Traralgon), even in the Ablett era (yes,I follow the Ellinbank results), but an un-named Gibb was a prominent member of a team that did give them a run for their money,after a sluggish start.

The final result was-Traralgon, 8 goals 12 behinds ; Bunyip, 5 goals 5 behinds.
For Traralgon J. Wright played a splendid game. Bermingham, Abbott, Peart, M'Lean, Doorty, Groves and Thomas also did splendidly. Bunyip have splendid footballers in Roffer, Gibb, Hansen*, Rowen, M'Namara and Goyder. Warner umpired the game impartially, but he allowed the players too much liberty.(Traralgon Record (Traralgon, Vic. : 1886 - 1932) Friday 3 August 1906 p 3 Article)
*See VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS: PAST AND PRESENT re the 1888 pioneer of Bunyip.

ENCOUNTERED A BULL. Bunyip, 3rd February.
Mr. W. Gibb,butcher, had an experience of an exciting nature on Wednesday. He was driving a bull, and in jumping from his horse to turn the animal it rushed at him, compelling him to take refuge in a tree. There be was kept for an hour and a half, until assistance came, and the animal was driven off.(Bendigo Advertiser (Vic. : 1855 - 1918) Monday 6 February 1905 p 5 Article)
Extracts only.
Unsold Portion of that fine Property Known as GIBB'S PADDOCK, containing abou108 Acres, Fronting the GARFIELD ROAD, Within-3 Minutes' Walk of BUNYIP RAILWAY STATION. Rich Soil, Suitable of CULTIVATION, GRAZING, FRUITGROWING, MARKET GARDENING &c.
Splendid crops of potatoes and all other vegetables Grown on This Year by Messrs.WALKER and MORRISON.
TITLE, Crown Grant.
BERNARD MICHAEL,Is instructed hy Mr. A. J. GIBB, who has disposed of his business, and Is leaving the district, to SELL by PUBLIC AUCTION, practically without reserve, his choice property, as above.(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 24 April 1915 p 3 Advertising)

By the time my holidays at Bunyip started there was no more a Gibb presence in the area but the family was still associated with the Wycheproof area. My brother and I had great fun making sparks on the trip home from Wyche in the dark with the quartz that lined the railway line that ran up the middle of its main street. Another notice gives Charnwood road as the location of Jessie's St Kilda residence in 1928.

GIBB-In sad and loving memory of our dear Jessie, who departed this life at St. Kilda, on the 23rd October, l928. Lovingly remembered. -(Inserted by her mother, sisters, and brothers,Wycheproof, Sealake, Bunyip, Garfield, and St. Kilda.)
GIBB-In loving thought and memory of our dear sister and aunt, Jessie, formerly of Wycheproof, who passed away at Coongy, St. Kilda, on the 23rd October, 1928. (P.1, Argus, 23-10-1929.)

Another excursion when we were very young was a walk from 63 North St to the end of Epsom Rd to see Polly Stagg, who was related on the Gibb side*, at the Waterloo Cup Hotel. Polly was a nickname of course. As in her framed photo, Polly wore her hair in a bun on her crown.

STAGG. — On December 13, at her residence, Waterloo Cup Hotel, Moonee Ponds, Mary Catherine, loved mother of Bill and Alex, grandmother of Bob and Ken, great-grandmother of Sue and Colin. —A wonderful mate.
(P.14, Argus, 14-12-1949.)

*RANKIN. –On the 17th September, at the residence of her daughter (Mrs. M. C. Stagg),Waterloo Hotel, Moonee Ponds, Margaret,widow of the late A. D. Rankin, of Bunyip, loving mother of Sarah (Mrs. Gibb, Bunyip),Maggie (Mrs. Davies, Adelaide), Pollie (Mrs.M. C. Stagg), Will Greig (Albert Park), and Yarrie (Mrs. Tanswell, Moonee Ponds), loving grandmother of Will and Alex Stagg, Zeneta Davies, James Gibb, and Russell Tanswell, aged 74 years.(P.1, Argus,18-9-1924.)

* Dad was named after this pioneer whose name indicates an earlier connection with the Rankins. Dad's mother, Sarah (Guy's wife)was born a Rankin as shown in the Rankin notice above.
GIBB.--On the 28th February, at his residence,Wycheproof, James Rankin, beloved husband of Christina Gibb, aged 72 years, A native of Auchinlick, Scotland. A colonist of 54 years. Home papers please copy.

The unfortunate fatal accident causing the death of Mrs. Maisey of Longwarry,has cast quite a gloom over the township,and much sympathy is expressed for the bereaved father and family.
(South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 24 December 1902 p 2 Article)

MAISEY. - On the 10th October, at Ouyen, Bertha, beloved daughter of T. W. Maisey, of Longwarry, sister Mrs. Lewis (Ouyen), brother W.Maisey (Bunyip)*, brother T. Maisey (West Australia**), sister V. Maisey (Ouyen). West Australian papers please copy. (P.1,Argus,21-10-1921.)

Bill Maisey was named on a wing in Bunyip's team of 1902-40.

*See the Roberts entry re Bill Maisey's slaughterhouse.
**It is amazing how many young men from the Mornington Peninsula moved to Western Australia during the depression of the 1890's whose effects were hardly felt in the midst of that colony's gold rush. I wonder how many Bunyip residents had joined the exodus.




Another of Mum's friends was Mrs Nash.

NASH .-- on October 6. at her residence, Nash road, Bunyip, Annie Maud, loved wife of the late Reuben Francis, loving mother of Daphne (Mrs Gooding), Stella, Les and Jack, mother-in-law of Eunice (Nip)and Jack, fond grandma of Lynette, Keith, Beverly. Kay, Peter, and John. (P.19,Argus,7-10-1955.)

Les and Jess Roberts had four boys, Jack, Don, Colin and Billy. Don was a champion footballer and is pictured in a 1955 photo of the team that beat Drouin.
This is the Bunyip team which defeated Drouin last week.
Back (L. to H.): K.Goldie, C. Hales, G.O'Donnell, N. Heatley, M.Phillips, T. O'Dea, K.Russell.
Middle Row: R.Ledger, G. Hoskins, D.Roberts, R. Horley (c.),C. Vanderbist, K. McGhee, R. Manson.
Front Row: B. Smith, J. McGhee, I. McDonald, J.Kavanagh. (P.12, Argus, 8-7-1955.)

The Argus showed Bunyip's vice-captain,Don Roberts, celebrating the victory over Drouin with his wife and young son Geoffrey in an article that explains how Bunyip became giant killers. There are other photos that might be of interest.(BUNYIP, SLING IN HAND, SLAYS THE FOOTBALL GIANTS
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 4 July 1955 p 8 Article Illustrated)

Don later moved to Diamond Creek and with creative landscaping made his above ground poll look like an inground pool. Colin was a ball of laughs. Jack married Molly and lived next door to his parents in Princess St, separated by a vacant allotment in which Billy kept his horse.

My first ride on a horse and Billy's apprenticeship in North St, Ascot Vale.
Billy Roberts,then about 16, owned a thoroughbred horse which grazed on a vacant block between the Princess Street houses of his parents (Les and Jess)and his older brother,Jack Roberts.It had a stable on what was a vacant block to the north of his parents' house,sheltered by a row of pine trees which had probably lines the boundary of an early large township estate. Billy was determined to become a jockey and was eventually apprenticed to trainer Bill Bones whose stables were on the south side of North St,Ascot Vale near East St.
He was proud of his horse and wanted me to enjoy my first ever ride. Against my better judgement, I accepted the invitation, and following his instructions, managed to mount the beast. Despite Billy's instructions,the horse refused to move but a slap on the rump got him moving- at a million miles an hour. In a few blurred seconds he'd covered the length of the paddock despite me almost breaking his neck with the force I generated through the reins, and stopped with his breast almost touching the fence, his head on the other side calmly surveying the grass on offer there while I realised that I was still alive. My second ride was a bareback ride on one of Ben Hall's huge horses that pulled his Cobb and Co. coach in the 1970's.

I know exactly how Mulga Bill felt. Pedal backwards they said!
The Roberts House now seems to be a vacant block on the Google Earth satellite view. It was on the east side of 13 Princess St. I remember thinking how much fun it would be running around number 13 under the veranda,which fully surrounded the house- and still does.Behind Les and Jess's house was an old wooden shed which held as many wonders as a trash and treasure market,including a once-loved bike. I'd never ridden a bike but I reckoned that if I could stand on the pedals,I'd be able to sort it out. Les and Jess mustn't have owned a car because there was no driveway or wide gate,just a narrow path winding to the front gate. I opened the gate and surveyed the culvert (over the ditch that serves as a gutter in West Gippsland),both of which lined up very nicely with Parsons St. Back to the bicycle which I'd previously leaned against the outside of the shed! My pre-flight check complete,it was up,up (down,down actually) and away. A pity I hadn't noticed the absence of brakes! All too easy,thought I as I skilfully negotiated the winding path,the narrow gateway and the culvert.I don't think I saw a single vehicle before I hit the West Gippsland gutter at the bottom of Parsons St and flew over the railway fence. This was probably about 1951 when I was about 8 years old and luckily for me,petrol was probably still in short supply after the war; traffic in Bunyip at that time was far from bumper to bumper. As the bike approached the speed of sound,I spied Wrecker and his fellow louts walking up Parsons St. Sensing my terror (perhaps the scream was a telltale sign) they advised me to pedal backwards,presuming the bike had a foot brake. Unfortunately it didn't;it was a fixed wheel and even slowing the rotation of the pedals was impossible.

Bill Maisey's Slaughteryard. It is possible that the blocks on the north side of Princess St were typical acre blocks 20x 200 metres but township blocks were usually half acres (20x 100 metres)and I think that was the situation. We'd (Johnny "Wrecker" Roberts,my brother and me,perhaps another one or two)walk up the paddock where Billy grazed his horse and then a similar block behind that and perhaps through a Maisey Paddock. The slaughteryard would probably be about 200 metres due north of Jack and Molly Robert's place. I wonder if it's heritage-listed.


John Wrecker Roberts.

Ally Rodgers was a regular visitor to Jess Robert's house. His surname was probably actually Rodger.

From my holidays at Bunyip as a youngster, I seem to recall a Pearson Street or Road.

An accident of a very serious nature occurred to Mr John Pearsson (sic), of Bunyip, on Wednesday last at North Bunyip. It appears that Mr Pearson, who is in the employ of the Shire Council, was engaged with several others in clearing the Tonimbuk-Bunyip road, at Telegraph Hill, and was assisting with a forest devil,which was anchored to a stump, when the cable broke, causing the handle to fly back with terrific force and strike the unfortunate man across the abdomen. He was rendered unconscious for the time being, and later regaining consciousness suffered great pain. Mr W. Browne conveyed the sufferer home, and Dr. Lee, of Warragul was sent for. On arrival the doctor ordered the patient's removal to the Warragul Hospital where he was conveyed by
train the same evening.-"Express." (Kooweerup Sun, Lang Lang Guardian and Cranbourne Shire Record (Vic. : 1918) Wednesday 25 September 1918 p 3 Article)

During our visits to Bunyip, mum used to attend Crazy Whist nights in a hall on the west side of Parsons St and about halfway up the hill. I was only a boy but I remember that two of her friends were Nell Kraft and Mrs McNamara who was very old. I knew nothing about the Kraft family at the time but trove is full of references to the Kraft hall and hotel. As dad had moved from Bunyip, after working at the Longwarry (Butter?) Factory, to work at Kraft near the Flinders St station, my childish imagination led me to believe that the Bunyip family had started Kraft Foods but the Wikipedia entry for the firm makes it clear that this was not so.

A successful fancy dress ????ing carnival was held on Wednesday night, 17th inst., when prizes were won by
the following :—Best fancy costume-Miss Nellie Kraft ; (etc.) (Dandenong Advertiser and Cranbourne, Berwick and Oakleigh Advocate (Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Thursday 25 June 1914 p 2 Article)

My memories of the delightful Church of England involve mum's great friend, Jess Roberts, and Hughie Pound,both stalwarts of the church.

St. Thomas' Church, Bunyip, which is to be opened by the Bishop of Gippsland on Sunday. 28th inst., is indeed a building which the town has every reason to feel proud of. The ceremony will commence at three o'clock, after which a baptismal service will be held. On the same evening a service will also be held.
(South Bourke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic. : 1872 - 1920) Wednesday 24 December 1902 p 2 Article)


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Drowned at Broadmeadows, on the 18th instant,William, aged 3 years and 3 months, third son of Peter M'Cracken, of Stewarton. (P.4, Argus, 20-10-1852.)

It was nearly twenty five years ago that I discovered in Broadmeadows' rate records that my great grandfather, John Cock, started leasing Stewarton in about 1892 and that in the next year or two the name of the farm changed to Gladstone. Stewarton was section 5 in the parish of Tullamarine and consisted of 785 acres according to the parish map which records George Russell as the grantee. The oldest available ratebook was that of 1863 and Maconochie was assessed on 777 acres. This shows that Broadmeadows Rd (now called Mickleham Rd)had been made along the 8000 link frontage between the Lackenheath Drive and Forman St corners and was one chain wide,exactly accounting for the loss of 8 acres from the property.

It was a few months before my discovery about the name change that I read A.D.Pyke's THE GOLD THE BLUE,a history of the Lowther Hall school in Leslie St. in Essendon. Ealsbrae, the historic house in which the school started was built by Peter McCracken's son, Coiler (named after Peter's father in law, Coiler Robertson of La Rose.) Mr Pyke,a teacher at the school, mentioned that Peter had a farm in Moonee Ponds called Stewarton. I racked my brain for ages trying to work out where in the parish of Doutta Galla it might have been. So you can imagine my Eureka moment when I discovered that my great grandfather's farm,bounded on the east and partly on the north by THE MOONEE PONDS (named after an aborigine,which I discovered only days ago)had been Peter McCracken's farm.

Coiler McCracken had married Margaret, daughter of James Robertson. Peter's brother-in-law was James Robertson, (son of Coiler of La Rose) who had arrived as a 17 year old brewer and may have been partly responsible for the success of the McCracken brewery. Another James Robertson owned Gowrie Park at Campbellfield (north of today's Hadfield.) This was getting ridiculous!

My second (very long) eureka moment was provided by Deidre Farfor of Malvern. I think Deidre was referred to me by the Broadmeadows Historical Society's Jim Hume but any help I managed to give her was a drop in the bucket to the help that Deidre provided to me. Genealogical details about the Gibbs and Robertsons of Campbellfield (and the Coupar link), about the family of Peter McCracken's wife (La Rose/ Trinfour),and Deidre's own Robertson family (Upper Keilor/Mar Lodge/Aberfeldie.) But most of all, countless pages of photocopies of THE MCCRACKEN LETTERS.

There were three McCracken brothers, Robert (on whose Ailsa paddock,on the north side of Kent St,Ascot Vale,the Essendon Football Club played its first seasons), Peter,and Alexander Earle McCracken,who leased William Hoffman's Butzbach (east of Hoffmans Rd and halfway to Lincoln Rd) for most of the 1850's and was at the forefront of what became the Royal Agricultural Society until his wife's ill health forced a return home.

Many of the letters were to Alexander Earle McCracken and sent from Peter's Ardmillan in the SUBURB of Moonee Ponds. However there were earlier letters, about the sorrow caused by the drowning of young William (and how the infant had walked part of the way to the school in Broadmeadows Township with his older siblings),Peter quitting Stewarton in 1855 (after nine years there) because Neil Black (the real grantee)had not got back to Peter about extending the lease,and the dairy at Kensington being unprofitable.

I recently made a comment about itellya actually being a team and Deidre was one of my first team mates!

When I was writing the McCracken entry in JOHN THOMAS SMITH AND HIS ELECTORS over two years ago, I had been reminded about the drowning when I discovered that Peter Young of Nairn in Bulla had taken the chair in 1852 at a meeting (to honour David Duncan, grantee of the central,major part of Melbourne Airport) because of a domestic tragedy in Peter McCracken's family. I don't know how but I actually found the death notice that starts this journal. As my aim that night (morning!) was to finish the Young entry, I filed it in my memory bank for the next day. I did not find the notice. In the last week,I tried again, once more without success.

Tonight, while half-watching TV, I decided I'd check family notices of the 1850's re Broadmeadows to make sure I hadn't forgotten any township pioneers. I saw this.
Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 20 October 1852 p 4 Family Notices
... MARRIED. At Melbourne, Port Phillip, by special license, on the 16th instant, by the Rev Irving Hetherington, minister of the Scots' Church, Agnes Bell to Mal- Mal colm Troubridge. DIED, Drowned at Broadmeadows, on the 18th instant, William, aged 3 years and 3 months, ... 63 words

Why had McCracken, Stewarton and McCracken, Broadmeadows produced absolutely no results? ANSWER. M'Cracken! Using this spelling of the name, the contents of the letters can be confirmed on trove and correct my faulty recollection of the time of the haystack stack fire on the dairy at Kensington; the fire had occurred after Peter's move to Ardmillan. James Hyslop (Victoria and its Metropolis biography) may have been looking after the dairy at the time.

CRIMINAL SITTINGS. TUESDAY, APRIL 15. (Before his Honour the Chief Justice.)
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 16 April 1862 p 6 Article
...wis was found " Guilty" of having set fire to a haystack, the property of Mr. Peter M'Cracken, at Kensington, on the 9th March. The facts of the case were fully reported recently in our columns, in connexion with the burning of a wooden bridge across the Essendon Railway, near Kensington station.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 26 June 1857 p 5 Article
...RES OF CULTIVATED LAND. We award the prize in this class to Mr. Peter M'Cracken, for his farm of Kensington, Mains, containing about 130 acres. We found this farm very well and regularly ploughed,

Poor Peter had no more luck with his fourth son.
On the 15th instant, of croup, John, aged two years and seven months, fourth son of Peter M'Cracken, of
Ardmillan, near Essendon.(P.4, Argus, 16-4-1860.)

I wondered about the location of Peter's dairy at Kensington and this curiosity led to my EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA. I had supposed that it would have been near McCracken St but it was actually bounded by Footscray Rd,the road to Raleigh's Punt, the private Essendon Railway to the south east end of Bellair St and Swamp road (known today as Kensington Rd,Macaulay Rd, Bellair St and Dynon Rd.)Peter's lease would have ended soon after the haystack fire and as he had no desire to renew it, the Cox family started its 20 year lease from J.R.Murphy of the former dairy and the rest of the Kensington Park estate extending to Lloyd St.

(Extract from SECTION 2.)
This land, bounded by Macaulay Rd, Dynon Rd, and the lines of Lloyd St and Hampden Rd, was granted to John Robert Murphy at about the time he was granted a 2 acre block at the south east corner of Stubbs and Parsons St in 1949.
Allotment 17 was leased by Anah Lewis for 14 years. Allotments 18 and 19 were leased to A.E.Brodribb for 14 years but it is known that by 1855 the 132 acres comprised all or part of McCracken?s dairy. (McCracken may have been leasing the crown land west of Rankins Rd too.)
In 1855, Peter McCracken quit his lease on ?Stewarton? (Gladstone Park) and lived on the dairy while his mansion was built on ?Ardmillan? in Moonee Ponds. In 1861 a fire burnt all the haystacks and by the end of 1862, Peter was thinking of giving up the dairy because the grass was poor and it was costing more for hay than the milk was worth. Soon after, James Hyslop, who had worked for Peter since 1858, was out of a job (P.233 Victoria and Its Metropolis).
When Anah?s lease finished, and McCracken quit his dairy, the whole 198 acres was leased by cattle salesman Samuel Cox. He probably fattened cattle and sheep on it. Pigs might have been kept there too by pork butcher, William Samuel Cox. Three years later, in 1867, W.S.Cox took over the lease, and in 1872, he extended it for five years with an option of another five years. In 1871, he?d moved from Abbotsford St to ?Kensington Park?. The KENSINGTON PARK RACECOURSE commenced operation in 1874. The racecourse was situated partly on E.B.Wight?s portion of allotment 20 as shown by the map on the next page. When it closed at the end of 1882, Cox took out a lease on, and then bought, Feehan?s farm (now called Moonee Valley Racecourse).

(Maps can be emailed to M'Cracken and Cox researchers. Send me a private message.)


While I was looking for William's death notice, I noticed other area pioneers such as poor McFarlane and decided to write a journal about non-township residents.


BRYANT. (Possibly Bryan.)
CONTRACTS ACCEPTED. Isaac Bryant, 44 pounds for eradicating thistles at Broadmeadows. (P.5,Argus,19-12-1857.)

John Crowe died fairly early in the district's history and although Mt Yuroke (like Mt Gellibrand) was downgraded from a mountain to a mere hill, the locals honoured his memory by calling it Crowe's Hill and this became the name of a farm on the hill. Rate collectors, obviously thinking the hill was named for big glossy black birds that made rude Graham Kennedy-like calls, invented their own version,Crow's Hill.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 19 January 1857 p 8 Family Notices
... Funeral Notices. THE Friends of the late JOHN CROWE, Esq., are respectfully invited to follow his remains to the place of interment, this day, Monday, the 19th instant. The Funeral procession to move from his late residence, Mount Yuroke, at ten, passing Broadmeadows etc.

Richard Gage of Broadmeadows was granted a carrier's licence. (P.6, Argus,26-5-1859.) See my journal SOME FARMS IN BROADMEADOWS SHIRE etc.
James and Daniel Milne of Broadmeadows were also granted carrier's licences. Was Darren Milne,a pupil at Tullamarine in the 1970's, descended from one of these pioneers?

"Greenvale" has always been associated with John McKerchar who is discussed extensively in Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY and GREENVALE :LINKS WITH THE PAST by Annette Davis. It was crown allotment Q of section 10,consisting of 328 acres on the north side of today's Somerton Rd,which was 748 metres west of Mickleham Rd and extended 810 metres farther west and 1.62 kilometres to the north.The property between Greenvale and Mickleham Rd,crown allotment 9P, was called Greenan and was associated with John McKerchar's brother,Donald. John and Donald McKerchar were co-grantees of both 10Q and 9P but there is no date on the parish map.(google "Yuroke,county of Bourke.)

Edwin Gill's property was most likely 10Q. Trove seems to be useless in determining when John McKerchar settled on Greenvale,so let's consult DHOTAMA. My suspicion is that John and Donald McKerchar had received their grants
by 1854 when Edwin and Greenvale were first mentioned in tandem and were jointly developing Greenan while leasing Greenvale to Edwin.

DHOTAMA, page Mc.55.
McKERCHAR, John, Broadmeadows, is a native of Perthshire, Scotland,who landed in Melbourne in January, 1840. He acted as a shepherd at Moorabool and on the Wimmera for seven years with Austin, McPherson and Taylor and was afterwards for 15 months with Dr. Drummond on the Merri Creek. Then in partnership with his brother,he opened the Crown Hotel on the corner of Queen and Lonsdale Streets,Melbourne; and conducted it for three years at the end of which time he purchased land and settled in his present home of 365* acres at Broadmeadows ...etc.

(Jan. 1840 + 7 years +15 months+ 3 years=Jan. 1851+ 3 months=April 1851 if the above description is correct.)
This would allow three years for John to erect a Greenvale homestead before Edward occupied it. Was Edwin just a lessee or perhaps a relative of the McKerchars? Was Edwin related to Dr.W.R.Gill?
*Broadmeadows rate records show that Greenvale consisted of 328 acres (10Q exactly) in 1879-80 and 300 acres in 1900 and when Alex. Millar,who renamed it "The Elms",was leasing it in 1920.

On Sunday morning, 27th inst., in Melbourne, at the residence of D. R. Long, Esq., Arthur Edwin, the only
and beloved child of Edwin Gill, Esq., of Green Vale, near Broadmeadows, and late of Richmond.
( The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 29 August 1854 p 4 Family Notices.)

EAST BOURKE.?A meeting was held at the Broadmeadows Hotel, Broadmeadows, on Wednesday evening, Donald Kennedy, Esq., was unanimously voted into the chair, and briefly introduced Mr. Cooper to a numerous assemblage. The candidate went into the leading subjects now occupying public attention, and at the close of his address answered satisfactorily numerous questions touching the impolicy of devoting large sums of money for railways, until the roads of the colony were rendered passable; reserved to himself the right to form his own judgment
on the expediency of appointing a minister for agriculture as a separate department of Government; was in favor of local road boards.

Numerous other questions being disposed of, Edwin Gill, Esq., moved, and Donald M'Kerchar, Esq., seconded, a motion to the effect, "That Mr, Cooper is a fit and proper person to represent East Bourke in the Legislative Assembly," which was carried unanimously. A vote of thanks, passed by acclamation to the chairman terminated the meeting. (P.5, Argus, 30-8-1856.)
Dr.Patterson of Flemington claimed that Dr. Gill was responsible for the death of a woman and despite Dr Barker
(who was perhaps the most prominent doctor in early Melbourne and a pioneer at Cape Schanck, who fought with Maurice Meyrick of Boniyong (Boneo)in Victoria's second duel)vindicating Gill in the post-mortem report, Chandler suggested that a charge of manslaughter might be in order. Dr. Gill's complaint against Chandler gives an indication of how distance, circumstances and the inability to be in two places at once might lead to charges being laid against the most dedicated and skilled medical practitioner.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 5 January 1859 p 5 Article
INQUEST.-Yesterday, Dr. Candler held an inquest, at Broadmeadows, ... desired olfeot, was repeated on Monday. She still continued ill, and on tho 80th December Dr. Gill, of Broadmeadows, was sent for. He came and prescribed for her.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 13 January 1859 p 6 Article
... CORONERS AND THEIR PROPER FUNCTIONS. TO THE EDITOR OF THE ARGUS. GILL, beg to lay before you as ... obedient servant. W. R. GILL, Member of the Royal College of Surgeons of England, Licentiate of the Victorian Medical Board. Broadmeadows, January 9.

At St. Kilda, by the Rev. Wm. Miller, Thomas Fairbairn, Farmer, Pentland Hills, third son of Andrew Fairbairn, Primside, Roxburgshire, Scotland, to Margaret Grant, second daughter of Lachlaine Grant, Broadmeadows.
(P. , Argus, 31-10-1856.)

The western boundary of Broadmeadows Township was named Hackett St. It was never made because traffic using Tullamarine's Lady of the Lake as a landmark would travel to the north west boundary of Stewarton, turn right (Forman St), and immediately veer left into Turner St taking them to Ardlie St where the 1854 timber bridge connected to the portion of the street in the parish of Will Will Rook. Near the Broadmeadows Hotel they would join travellers using the original route to Sydney (passing Pascoeville's Young Queen Inn) for the "steep pinch" up the Ardlie St hill to where it met Mickleham Rd.

From 1869, those approaching the township from the parish of Tullamarine had a new stone bridge accessed via
Fawkner St and after crossing the creek,they would turn left to climb the Ardlie St hill. From shortly after W.W.1. they would turn left at THE WAR MEMORIAL. This and the lamp lit by young Jack Hoctor were in the middle of the road. As motorised traffic became more powerful, the memorial was a hazard and caused congestion so it was moved by Major Murphy of Tullamarine to the town's old windmill site where it stands today.

Eventually, after a century,with Hughie Williamson's old Dunvegan being developed as the heart of the new Greenvale (the new school retaining the number of the former school at the north end of Section Rd, i.e. 890)and traffic increasing dramatically, Hackett St was made and with Broadmeadows Rd (from Tullamarine Junction) was renamed as Mickleham Rd.
(Sources: the late Jack Hoctor and Harry Heaps; George Lloyd's MICKLEHAM ROAD 1920-1952;
Township of Broadmeadows, Parish of Will-WIll-Rook, County ... - Slv‎)

Hackett St was named after the presiding magistrate of the District Court. See STABBING AT BROADMEADOWS,
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 16 November 1855 p 5 Article.

The original route to Mickleham Rd through the township and bypassing the unmade Hackett St can be seen in the Keymap of the first edition of Melway.

On the 26th inst., at Lonsdale-street Congregational Church, by the Rev. Thomas Odell, Mr. Alexander Prain, of Campbellfield, to Miss Mary Hendry, of Broadmeadows. (P.4,Argus,28-3-1857.)

(John?) Hendry was the post master at Tullamarine in 1864 but the rate collector did not seem to know this until 1867. Because assessments were listed geographically,it is highly probable that the post office was on or near the site of the present 711 service station (formerly Mobil.)

Some Hendry boys later appeared in court for misbehaviour at the local pub. (I can't remember if it was the Beech Tree or the Junction,the latter on the 711 site.)Here it is.
North Melbourne Advertiser (Vic. : 1873 - 1894) Friday 5 October 1883 p 3 Article
... and Filson, J's.P.) Alexander Hendry, James Hendry Joseph Jackson were charged with using obscene language on the 30th September at Tullamarine. RIichard Glazer, licensee of the Bench Tree Hotel and Richard Craven of the Junction Hotel stated the prisoners canme to their respective houses at one ..

Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 4 July 1855 p 4 Family Notices
... special license, by the Rev. Thomas Odell, James Purvis*, of Tullamarine, to Christina Hendry, youngest daughter of Mr. James Hendry, of Perth, Scotland. ... 94 words

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 23 April 1864 p 6 Article
... Gap - James Baring, the Gap. Tullamarine - James Hendry, postmaster. Tullamarine. Wyndham - Thom ... 459 words

*Thomas Purvis bought lots 14, 27 and 28 of John Carre Riddell's Camieston Estate (Melway 5,partsF-G 8) with frontages to the west side of Wright's/Heaps' Lane (today's Springbank St) and the now-closed continuation of Derby St. Thomas also bought about 10 acres* of today's Trade Park Industrial Estate (Melway 5 parts F-G8), very close to the Hendry residence,which would explain how James met Christina. (*Volume 30 folio 772.)

Michael Paul Henessy, Victoria Hotel, Broadmeadows. Granted. (P.6, Argus, 16-4-1856.) Hennessy didn't last long. PUBLICANS' TRANSFERS. Michael Paul Hennessy, Victoria Hotel,Broadmeadows, to John Bryant : granted.
(P.6, Argus, 5-12-1856.) Bryan(t)may have pulled a swifty because he had twice been refused a licence for his Tanners/Farmers Arms.

Philip Ryan, for an aggravated assault on Police Constable King, at Broadmeadows, was sentenced to one month's imprisonment with hard labor.(P.4,Argus,28-1-1858.)

Andrew Lemon's prologue to his BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY, set in 1857, involves a severe falling out between Constable King and his superior,Senior Constable McCarthy. Dr Weston,attending the latter's sick child, witnessed King's "You be damned and go to hell.You know as much about a horse as I do.Go and clean him yourself!"


On the 15th inst., at her brother's residence, Stewarton, Broadmeadows, Margaret, daughter of the late
Alexander McConochie, farmer, Buteshire, Scotland, aged 30 years.(P.5, Argus, 16-9-1858.)
Peter McCracken was on Stewarton from 1846 to 1855 and it is likely that John McConochie, who was assessed (as Maconochie) in the oldest available ratebook (of 1863) was the next tenant.

Death and funeral notices for the six year old son and 21 year old daughter are the only results for the family or the property, Strathoer. Can you find two reasons that the following letter was not one of the results?
To the Editor of the Argus,
Sir,-I think it my duty to inform the public, through the medium of your journal, that no census-paper has ever been left with me or my adjoining neighbour, and I have no doubt that many are in the same position.
I am, dear Sir, yours, etc.,JUSTICE. - Strathore, near Broadmeadows, 4th May, 1857. (P.5, Argus, 5-5-1857.)

THE Friends of Mr. WALTER MACFARLANE, of Strathoer, near Broadmeadows, are respectfully invited to Follow
the Remains of his late Daughter to the place of interment in the New Cemetery. The funeral to move from Bignell's Family Hotel, Cardigan-street, North Melbourne, this day, Monday, the 29th inst., at eleven o'clock.
JOHN SLEIGHT, undertaker, 71 Collins-street east ._126 (P.8,Argus, 29-9-1856.)

On the 17th inst., at St. Kilda, of congestion of the brain, Dugald, eldest son of Walter Macfarlane, of
Strathoer, near Broadmeadows, aged six years and one month.(P.4, Argus,18-10-1856.)

Although Strathoer ,being described as "near Broadmeadows" was most likely a farm, a member of the clan (with scribbly initials)received the grant for a crown allotment at the top of Fawkner St. (See township map.)

William Mackintosh, of Broadmeadows, clerk. Cause of insolvency-The pressure of a creditor who has caused the insolvent to be arrested. Liabilities, ?122 ; assets, ?6 ; deficiency, ?117. Mr. Laing, Official Assignee.
(P.6, Argus, 29-10-1859.)


William Mitchell, charged with fighting at Broadmeadows, was fined 10s., and 10S. costs.
(P.1s,Argus, 25-11-1858.) William was probably related to Peter Mitchell who received grants for many blocks in roadmeadows Township. See my journal SOME FARMS IN THE SHIRE OF BROADMEADOWS etc.



STONEMASONS.-TENDERS WANTED, for BUILDING a stone OUT-HOUSE, Apply Robert Shankland, Euroke, Broadmeadows.
(P.7,Argus, 8-10-1859.)

Yuroke was often rendered as Euroke. Robert's farm, Waltham,will be discussed in my journal, SOME FARMS IN THE SHIRE OF BROADMEADOWS. I don't think it was a stone dunny! Robert's 1888 biography in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS claimed that in 1852 he built the original portion of Dean's Hotel at Moonee Ponds (today's Moonee Ponds Tavern on the south corner of Dean St near the racecourse.) My EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA
(not a journal)contains title information about his purchase of the hotel's site.

THIS powerful cart stallion will stand the season at Mr. Samuel Thorpe's farm, near Broadmeadows, on the Moonee Ponds, ten miles from Melbourne. This horse gained the prize at the Midland Agricultural show in Van Diemen's Land, as the best stallion in the Island. Brilliant was got by that celebrated imported horse Lincoln, out of an imported Lincolnshire mare, is now rising five years old, and allowed to be the best cart horse ever imported to this colony.(P.1, Argus, 6-11-1850.)

To Farmers, Stockbreeders, Carriers, and Others. Important Sale of Stock and Farm Produce.
LILBURNE, ANSLOW, and Co. will sell by auction, in consequence of the expiration of the Lease, on the farm of Samuel Thorpe, Esq., at Broadmeadows, formerly known as M'Nall's farm, ten miles from town, on Friday, 8th February, at twelve o'clock sharp,
All the produce, consisting of 3 stacks hay, horses, cattle, poultry, implements, &c, as under :
200 tons hay, in 3 stacks 100 bushels wheat 100 do barley 1 entire draught horse by Blythe, warranted 9 first-class draught horses 15 well-bred milch cows 8 young cattle 1 winnowing machine Ploughs Harrows Carts Bullock-dray Roller, together with the whole of his farming implements, not enumerated. (P.2, Argus,31-1-1856.)

I have found no mention of McCall prior to 1850 but 10 miles is a clue to the location of Thorpe's farm. Due to the yield of hay, I would presume that the farm was part of the Glenroy Estate. Samuel might also have been leasing part of Riddell and Hamilton's Camieston Estate. (See the Camieston Estate journal re its location.)

J.Weston Esq. had been appointed public vaccinator for Broadmeadows.(P.4,Argus,31-10-1857.) See KING.



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Should I include William Munsie in my Bulla or Broadmeadows journal? He was a pioneer of the north east side of Deep Creek road, having bought 28 acres 26 perches from John Carre Riddell in 1861; this land in the north east corner of section 7,Tullamarine, was transferred by the grantee,J.P.Fawkner,to Riddell as part of the exchange in which Fawkner became owner of the part of Riddell's section 6 cut off by the road. Being east of Victoria St (now indicated by the northern end of today's Mercer Drive) this was part of Bulla for about a century before becoming part of the Broadmeadows municipality.

Sir Henry Parkes and Alfred Deakin probably deserve equal recognition as the Father of Federation just as Ron Barrassi and Ted Whitten both carried the mantle of Mr Football. One of Fawkner's most ungenerous deeds was his attempt to deprive John Batman acknowledgement of being at least co-founder of Melbourne.

William Munsie didn't make it into the newspapers very often. The following 1887 article is a corker because it mentions many prominent citizens in the far-flung West Bourke electorate. Alfred Deakin had a connection with Tullamarine other than as a parliamentarian. His wife, Pattie (nee Browne), spent her early childhood on Camp Hill (now Gowanbrae)at about the same time that William Munsie settled in Tullamarine.

I'm not sure whether William Munsie's biography even made it into VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS but he is certainly mentioned in Fred Wright's 1888 biography. Let's check DHOTAMA. See COMMENT 1.

The digitisation of the following could not be corrected on trove because the FIX THIS TEXT box could not be seen. I will save it as is,in case the oh noes gremlins are lurking,and fix it later.
The Bacchus Marsh Express (Vic. : 1866 - 1918) Saturday 25 June 1887 p 2 Article.

The following is a copy of the address:
To the Honourable Alfred Doakin, Barrister-at-.
Law, M.L A., Chief Secretiry ?od., Minister
of Water Supply of the Coloay of Victoria.
Dear Sir,-On behalf of your constituents in the
electorate of West Bourke, of which you are one of
the Parliamentary representatives, we have much.
pleasurein cordially welcoming you on returning to
your native land.
The lmperial Conference recently held in the
capital of the Empire, and of which body you wereo
oneof thedelegates representing the colony of Vic:
toria, will always live in history as the beginningof
a series of similar conferences which will most pro
bably achieve the federation of the Empire in a
manner entirely in consonance with the constitu
tional met hodsof the mother country, and yet leave
thecomponent self-governing cm munities owning_
allegianceto the British throne completelyin poss
ession of their present privileges and rights.
We rejoice to know that you took a very worthy
part in that conference, more especially in respect
to maintaining the inherent tight of Australasian
colonists to enjoy a paramount influence for. all,
time to come in the Southern Pacific and adjacent
territories. .
We have heard with gratification that Her Ma
jesty's advisers recommended that you shouldl be
offered a Knight Companionslip of the Order of St.
Michael nod St. George, wlhich distinction; however,
you wisely, in our opinion, declined to acceptat the
present stage of your career. .
We have also noticed with satisfaction your?
efforts to promote the success i-f theCentenuial
International Exhibition to be held in Melbourne
in 1888, and we feel assured that your visit -to
Europe, and interchange of ideas and courtesies
with most of the leading statesmen of the present
day cannot but be of mutual advantage to them
and the people they represent and to yourself and
the people of Victoria, in whose service as a legis
lator we trust you may for many years remain.
Wishing you, with Mrs. Deakin and family, long
life and happiness, we beg to subscribe ourselves
your admirers and well wishers.
MARK KYLE, Bacchus Marsh, chairman and
Hon. Secretary.
BAcclus MARsn.- Thos. Anderson, J. E. Crook,
Thos. Cain, J.lP., C. Crisp, G. Dickie, J.P., Thos.
BrLacKwooD.-Andrew Buchanan, R. Cameron,
J.P., Jas. Ferguson, J.P., Matthew Rogers. J.P.,
Wmn. Shaw, Benjamin Trewhella, J.P., David
CoIaADAnT.-J. Bourke, G. Burnip, W. Jeffrey,
W. By. MI'Farlane, J. Young.
DARRAWEIT Guosn.-W. J. Lobb, J.P.
J.P., J. Connor, J. N. Danugerfield. A. Graham, T.
II. Jennings, J.P, (Mayor) A. I'Lean. J.P., A.
Swan, Jus. Taylor, J. Wilson, J.P. (Mayor). T.
GIsBonNE.-R? . Cantwell, H. R. Dixon, J.
Gardiner, Edward Lansdowno, J.P., J. W. Webb,
KEcL.on.-John Beale, Henry Delahay, Robert
G. Ely, David Milburn, J.P., Wm. Taylor, J.P.
LANCEFIELD.-W. Derrick, Francis Foy, J.P.,
H. L. Galbraith, J.P., R. S. Graham, J.P.,
R. Hemphill, James Lockwood, J.P.
MYRNIo?o.-G. Grant, J.P., R. Hornbuckle, W.
Lyle, J.P., It. Lidgett, T. Low.
MELTON.-A. Blackwood, A. Cameron, T. A.
Grant, W. S. Harkness, J.P., Jus. Kitson, A.
Shebler, jun.
MACEDoN.-Thos. Christian, Chas. Cogger,
George Nicholls, Alfred Turner, William Thomas
No?rT BaLLAN..-Jobn Andrew, Edward Blake,
J.P., John Graham, J. H. Potter, Denis Ryan.
NEwosar.-John Adams, J. T. Anderson,
Richard Adams, Edward Gibbs, John Keating.
RIDDELL8s CREEK.-Robert Dodridge, George
Maxted, Archibald Notman, E. R. Priestly, J.P.
Winm. Somerville, J.P.
RoesEY.-G. Blackburn. W. T. Moffat, J.P., F.
O. Neal, William Wilson, J.P., H. C. White.
SuvN.uty.-John Eadie, J.P., Peter Eadie.
TULLAMARINE.-Wm. Dpwari, WVm. Munsie.


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