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WAS JAMES HASSELL THE FIRST TO USE GREENVALE TO DESCRIBE THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PARISH OF YUROKE NEAR SOMERTON ROAD?
EDWARD ROW &t CO. have received instructions from James Hassell, Esq;, to sell by public auction, at his residence, GREENVALE, near Broadmeadows, adjoining the estate of Donald M’Kerchar, Esq, ON TUESDAY, the 16th MAY INSTANT, At 11 o’clock sharp, The entire Farming Stock, consisting of— (etc.) P.3, The Banner, 12-5-1854.)
This seems to be connected to the same James Hassell of whom I'd never seen mention before in regard to the parish of Yuroke, the first Broadmeadows rate record seen being that of 1863 and I'm sure he was not mentioned in GREENVALE: LINKS WITH THE PAST by Annette Davis (Ferguson.)
On the 10th inst., at the residence of Mr. Edwin Gill, Richmond, Mrs. Hassell, the beloved wife of Mr.Hassell, (late of Carshalton, Surrey, and mother of Mr. James Hassell of Moorrabbee Station, Heathcote,(late of Richmond), in her sixtieth year. (P.4, Argus, 11-2-1854.)
At Moorrabee, on Sunday morning, the 8th inst.,the wife of James Hassell, Esq. of a son.
(P.8,The Banner, 12-5-1854.)
THE PARISH OF YUROKE
extended from the top left corner of Melway 178 C11 east to Merri Creek and north to the parishes of Mickleham and Kalkallo at a line generally indicated by the bend in Mickleham Rd at bottom left of Melway 385H2.
Donald and John McKerchar were jointly granted c/a's 10Q and 9 P, the latter's property, 10Q, being named "Greenvale" and Donald's 9 P being named "Greenan". James Hassell would have been leasing one of the following properties which adjoined either "Greenvale" or Greenan": the eastern part of John Haslett's 10 R at Green Gully, a northern part of Machell's 2 C,(Providence Plains), all or part of"Springfield" (c/a 9 O)or Brodie's 11S or 12T to the north and part of the Dunhelen Estate.
John McKerchar's "Greenvale" was later leased to Robert Millar whose son, Alex, renamed it "The Elms".Donald McKerchar's first wife Colina died and he married Margaret Robertson, who was born at Greenan in Scotland.
Although the names of residences were not always written in inverted commas, it is presumed that Greenvale in the notice of the clearing sale means the locality , not the name of his residence. John McKerchar's biography on page 430 of Alexander Sutherland's VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS: PAST AND PRESENT (1888)indicates that he settled on "Greenvale" in 1851; although he may have leased 10Q to James Hassell, there is no way to prove that James Hassell was actually on "Greenvale".
It has been assumed that the use of Greenvale to describe the area near Somerton Rd arose when the Section Road school at the north west corner of Machell's subdivision was built and as it needed a name, John McKerchar suggested the name of his farm.
"Plans and specifications were drawn up allowing room for 60 pupils to be housed at School 890 and the
estimates for building costs amounted to Ł379. As the sum of Ł102.15.0d had already been collected
locally with a guarantee to raise additional money, work commenced and the school was officially
opened in March 1868. The appointment of Mr George R Hancock as first Head Teacher at the Green
Vale School (which took its name from the McKerchar property opposite) had also been made. "
While the following does not prove that James Hassell was on "Greenvale" (c/a 10Q), it certainly indicates that he could have been (in which case he did not name the locality.)
Cows and Horses, Implements, & c.
M. M'CAW and ANOTHER have received instructions from Mr Henry Norman (in consequence of expiration of lease), to sell by auction, at Greenvale Farm, near Broadmeadows on Friday, 4th inst., at twelve o'clock,
The whole of his dairy stock, horses, implements, &c., comprising — (ETC.) P.2, The Age, 4-4-1862.)
The next mention of Greenvale in the 1860's seems to indicate that the locality name was first used in March 1868 which raises the likelihood that James Hassell had been leasing c/a 10Q Yuroke, Greenvale farm.
APPLICATIONS will be received by the Committee of the Greenvale Common School for tho appointment of a first-class TEACHER (must be married), at noon on Saturday, the 7th prox. Applicants must attend personally.
For further particulars apply to the undersigned.
JOHN M'KERCHAR. Greenvale, Broadmeadows, 27th February, 1868.(P.1, Argus, 6-3-1868.)
PEOPLE WHO HELPED ME TO GROW TULLAMARINE'S WRITTEN HISTORY FROM THE 1.5 FOOLSCAP PAGES THAT EXISTED IN AUGUST 1988.
I knew nothing about trove and in fact nothing about computers or the pioneers of Tullamarine when Gordon Henwood told me to see John Fenton who gave me a list of a dozen names of descendants of those pioneers. Those people then referred me to others as well as supplying information and documents that would never have been found on trove. It was probably Olive Nash or Alma Koch who put me into contact with Gordon Connor. It was a rapidly expanding snowball of informants.
EventBirth Event registration number18326 Registration year1899
Family nameCONNOR Given namesGordon SexUnknown Father's nameJos Mother's nameAmelia (Nash) Place of birthESDON
Gordon's father was a bootmaker at Moonee Ponds and at Christmas would go to the Nash farm at Fairview to help with the hay harvest. Gordon remembered that Cam Taylor's farm (later the original section of Essendon Aerodrome) was green when all the surrounding pasture was as dry as a bone because of Essendon's nightsoil being dumped there, fields of golden hay as far as the eye could see, and George Mansfield building the Dalkeith homestead in about 1910 (which has since been confirmed on trove.)
A feature on the Bulla road that Gordon told me about was the Travellers' Rest Hotel which he described as being near the garage near the Airport West Shoppingtown. Whether the charred remains were still there three or so years after its destruction in the year of Gordon's birth when Gordon was old enough to ask what it had been, or his father just pointed out the site to him, I was able to confirm the site from titles information in my EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF DOUTTA GALLA*.
FIRE AT TULLAMARINE.
AN HOTEL DESTROYED
A fire broke out at 23 minutes past 3
a.m. on Sunday at the Travellers' Rest
Hotel Bulla road, Tullamarine of which
Mr E.J. Wilson is the licensee. The
building was a wood and iron structure,
one- storey, and contained nine rooms. A
firm hold was obtained by the flames, and
the efforts of four hose carts and 14 men
with hand pumps failed to save it from
total destruction. There was no insurance
on the building, which was the property of
Mr J Howse. The contents, however,
were insured for (£100?). (P.6, Argus, 4-12-1899.)
* This was the Travellers’ Rest Hotel, which was located on the block bounded by Dromana Ave, Louis St, Rodd St and Matthews Ave (from location described in Volume 29 folio 783). It was destroyed by fire on 3-12-1899.
The occupancy of 22c, which contains most of Westfield Shoppingtown, had not changed much in 1900; Sam. Mansfield had 68 acres, J.B.Howse, by now the owner of John Hall’s South Wait, had 40 acres and Edmund Tucker had the 9 acres on which the old pub had stood.
Olive was the daughter of Tullamarine's postmistress and the Nash family of Fairview was probably wondering why Harry was all of a sudden so keen to check if there was any mail at the post office.
EventMarriage Event registration number8699 Registration year1928
Family nameNASH Given namesHy Alexander SexUnknown Spouse's family nameSIMMONS Spouse's given namesOlive Ricketts
Like the original Mrs Nash of Fairview (nee Mary Gage of Broadmeadows Township), Olive was doomed to a long widowhood. Harry who had been a leader of the community, such as his truck carrying the fire-fighting tank, dying 26 years before I interviewed Olive and her old friend, Joyce Morgan, in 1989.
EventDeath Event registration number1524 Registration year1963
Family nameNASH Given namesHenry Alexander SexMale Father's nameNASH Charles Mother's nameEllen Eliza (Parr) Place of birthTullamarine Place of deathParkville Age61
Olive supplied many photos which were included in my 1989 and 1998 histories, unfortunately, as poor quality photo copies, but luckily I later scanned her photo of the Fairview homestead. See:
PHOTO OF "FAIRVIEW" HOMESTEAD.
It was Olive who led me to Alma Koch.
Alma was the grand daughter of Charles Nash Snr who had established Fairview in 1852 and married Mary Gage two years later. Her father was Mark Cooper, after whom part of Black St was renamed Coopers Hill Drive by the City of Broadmeadows, probably at the suggestion of Cr Ed. Hoctor who introduced me to Jack Hoctor. Alma told me about walking across Percy Judd's Chandos Park as a child to visit Grandma (Mary) Nash at Fairview and enabled me to draw a map of the portion of Broadmeadows Township in the parish of Tullamarine, between Forman St and the Moonee Ponds Creek, showing the land farmed by her father. She'd obviously been kept in the dark about her father's suicide. But it was her husband Fred who provided the greatest information that will never be found on the internet. After their marriage, Fred moved into their house in Forman St, part of the boundary between Broadmeadows Township and "Gladstone" which Stanley Korman bought from F.N.Levin as detailed in Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.
Korman went broke which resulted in many shareholders in his companies losing their life savings so I'd regarded him as a villain until Fred explained why he went broke. Korman's grand plan on page 197 of Lemon's book would have become a reality in the mid 1950's if the M.M.B.W. had not refused to extend the water mains to what became a decade later Costain and Jennings' GLADSTONE PARK. Fred learned this during a chat with Korman across the boundary fence and had the greatest admiration for Korman.
EventMarriage Event registration number12347 Registration year1936
Family nameCOOPER Given namesAlma Flor SexUnknown Spouse's family nameKOCH Spouse's given namesFredk Jas
EventBirth Event registration number26158 Registration year1911
Family nameCOOPER Given namesAlma Flor SexUnknown Father's nameMark Mother's nameEllen (Nash) Place of birthBROADMEADOWS
EventDeath Event registration number23913 Registration year1972
Family nameCOOPER Given namesEllen SexFemale Father's nameNASH Charles Mother's nameMary (Gage) Place of birthTullamarine Place of deathGreenvale Age96
While reading page 45 of WHERE BIG BIRDS SOAR, I discovered that Colin had actually named his parents as Bill and Marion and that I had the wrong birth record for Colin. Why he was born at Maldon is unknown; perhaps his mother's family was there. (Marion Agnes was born at Majorca in 1867 and married in 1888, the year that they moved to Tullamarine. The distance from Majorca to Maldon is (39.2 km) via Baringhup Rd.)
EventBirth Event registration number21411 Registration year1896
Family nameWILLIAMS Given namesCollin Andrew SexMale Father's nameWm Thos Mother's nameMarion Agnes (Barr) Place of birthMALDON
I was told about Colin by Gordon Connor and I drove Gordon out to the Salvation Army Aged Care facility in the eastern suburbs where Colin resided so the two old mates could have a chin wag.Colin's parents followed my great grandfather, John Cock, on Broombank which occupied the Melrose Drive frontage from a point opposite the Catherine Avenue corner to the Derby St corner. My G.G.F. had warned them about ghosts in the house. Timothy Hoctor was employed by Colin's parents, (BILL AND MARION!*) and as farmers started and ended their working day in the dark they suggested that he could sleep in the barn rather than walk home to the township every night. He only lasted one night, a sleepless night due to the rats and refused their hospitality stating, "I'll not sleep here one more night or I'm likely to wake up and find myself dead entirely!" (P.45 WHERE BIG BIRDS SOAR.)
It was Colin who first made me aware of Alec Rasmussen, the first of the three men I have named as Tullamarine's three great leaders, and helped to inspire two poems.
TULLAMARINE SCHOOL 2613.
From school 632 near Nash's "Bayview",
To Seafield 546 which also had pupils few,
Rushed the teacher at lunchtime for half a year,
Till notice was taken of a common idea.
In June '84 the schools in Grants Lane and near the junction
Closed down and school 2613 took over their function;
For the new school John Blanche offered a site.
But because of the Beech Tree, Ware said,"It's not right."
A site farther north was eventually found,
At Conders Lane, on Love's, for thirty pounds,
And there the school stood for seventy six years,
Full of much happiness and occasional tears.
In nineteen o6 came the Mansfield demise;
Miss Rowe told her pupils with tears in her eyes.
Mr Rogers took over when she met "Mr Wright",
Then an accident happened that caused a real fright.
Colin Williams fainted after lunch at the school;
The teacher first thought he was playing the fool.
When 'twas found that he'd hit his head on a rock,
To the post office they flew to ring Essendon's doc.
Who in twenty minutes was tending the head
That almost rendered Colin Williams dead.
It took six whole months before the problem was licked;
Meanwhile Col. heard rumours of a teacher so strict!
Alec Rasmussen came in nineteen hundred and nine
And spared no effort bringing brats into line.
Colin was scared to go back to school
As a result of stories of the teacher's stern rule.
But Alec Rasmussen a tyrant was not
And all of his pupils admired him a lot.
He gave them all an education sound;
His picnics and community work were renowned.
Wally Mansfield and his mates emptied the pan
In a hole that they'd dug; then they teased and they ran,
Jumped over their disguised pit and those in pursuit
Fell into the mess; the smell wasn't so beaut!
Around 1930 another teacher was seen,
The grandfather of our Leo Dineen
Who did so much for Tulla forty years later;
No man's contribution could ever be greater.
So many families through its portals have passed
That many were sad when its end came at last.
In the 60's the jetport swallowed up its abode
But its pupils remember the school up the road.
TO WHOM WE LOOKED.
Although ours was a small population
On councils we had good representation:
Grant, Ritchie, Nash, Cock, Fox, Parr and son,
The McNabs and Lockhart were some who got things done.
But in the district around Tullamarine,
Such fine leaders ne'er were seen
As Rasmussen, Murphy and Dineen.
Alec Rasmussen much progress did inspire
When the T.P.A.met around an open fire
On the oval he suggested that they buy.
The saleyards bid was a well-planned try.
The Pioneers' Roll was presented in 1935
To keep the district's heritage alive.
The Major organised more suitable abodes
For a church and two monuments along the roads,
Planned preventative measures against dangers fiery,
Represented people at every enquiry.
He was honoured most highly for his work with the scouts
But removed from our presence at the hands of some louts.
Leo Dineen was a man with vision and skills
To make a fine oval from rat drains and hills.
With Hedger, Garnar, Boots, he worked hard for our hall;
He started each sport club that plays with a ball.
Yet where are the streets and ovals after them named?
Till something is done, we should all be ashamed.
POSTSCRIPT 2017. The Spring St Reserve is now officially named the Leo Dineen Reserve and a plaque installed on a boulder at the Melrose Drive Reserve honours Alec Rasmussen's earlier contribution to the community.
COLIN WILLIAMS DIED ON 15-10-1989*, ENDING AN ASSOCIATION WITH TULLAMARINE THAT HIS PARENTS BEGAN IN 1888.
(*P.24, WHERE BIG BIRD SOAR.)
EventBirth Event registration number901 Registration year1916
Family nameLLOYD Given namesSydney Evans SexUnknown Father's nameWm Morris Mother's nameSarah Elzth (Smith) Place of birthBERWICK
Syd took me for a road tour, allowed me to photocopy his slightly younger brother, George Morris Lloyd's MICKLEHAM ROAD 1920-1952, told me about Bill Stoney's house in Mickleham Rd and the Lloyd & Denham marital connection to Hughie Williamson's family of "Dunvegan", Greenvale, and introduced me to Bob Blackwell who was a fund of information about Bulla and Greenvale.
EventBirth Event registration number18335 Registration year1916
Family nameBLACKWELL Given namesRobt Arth SexUnknown Father's nameJoseph Jno Mother's nameElizth (Bedford) Place of birthBULLA
Bob took me on a road tour, including 5 foot 2 Gilbert Alston's house at Bulla with a very low doorway which was no problem for his maternal grandfather William Bedford who followed Gilbert as the owner and was also 5 foot 2, Felix Fitgerald's well dome built by William Bedford and Dunhelen where Bob's paternal grandfather,William Blackwell, who'd downed a few at Lavars' hotel on the way back from Melbourne despite being warned not to, stood up on the wagon as it approached the homestead and shouted, "Nobody can say I'm drunk!"* which had Dunhelen's owner in such a fit of laughter he forgot to fire William, after whom Blackwells Lane was named. Bob told me about Dunalister, where he was the manager until the new owner decided to rename the property as Balbethan** and allowed Bob to use the old name for a poll shorthorn stud he established in Elmore. He showed me the wrought iron surround which Gilbert Alston, Bulla's blacksmith, had made for his own grave. Bob's information alone could have filled a book and was used in many entries in my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND.
*GOOD ONE WILLIAM
**Place: Balbethan Stud Homestead - Hume City Council
Balbethan Stud, formerly Dunalister homestead, erected in about the late ... This homestead is located on Section 9 of the Parish of Bulla Bulla, which was first.
Jack's birth record does not seem to have been entered on Victorian BDM. He used to walk from Broadmeadows Township (Westmeadows south of Kenny St.) to the Broadmeadows Army Camp with goodies his mother had cooked for his older brother who had enlisted, so he'd probably been born in the first decade of the 1900's. I was introduced to him by Eddie Hoctor who had been president of the Doutta Stars Football Club when I played with them in the early 1970's and Mayor of the City of Broadmeadows. If I remember correctly, Jack's father was Timothy Hoctor, probably the same Timothy mentioned in Colin Williams' hilarious anecdote.
Timothy had been accused of pressuring a member of the pioneering Kingshott family to enlist.
The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Thursday 16 March 1916 p 3 Article
(To the Editor.)
Sir - Kindly allot me space in your columns to contradict the rumour current in this district to the effect that
I induced O. Kingshott to enlist. I would like to say here for the benefit of those who think they have an axe
to grind, that O. Kingshott enlisted of his own free will, and not through any inducement of mine. With all respect due to the man who has decided to fight for his country, I think it is time those others concerned, who make the balls in the dark, should come out in the light and fire them. It is hardly fair at this time that one of two knock kneed patriots, conscious of their shortcomings, should seek to side-step their own shufflings by holding their neighbour up to ridicule.--Yours, etc.
TIMOTHY P. HOCTOR.
Jack Hoctor informed me of the sale of the Dundonald Estate in 1929*, and told me about the Hoctor farm "Broomielaw" on Pascoe Vale Rd, his birth in the heritage listed coach house on the Broad St corner in the township and Nurse Mitchell who TOOK CHARGE at the birth of many township babies.
*Jack knew nothing about the detail of the sale in George Lloyd's history and thus independently confirmed it.
Here's some detail that Jack and other sources, such as George Lloyd's MICKLEHAM ROAD 1920-1952, provided about Broadmeadows Township which inspired a poem.
John Kingshott and his (brother?) operated smithies over the road from each other. Ted Wright took over the one on the garage site (I'd better say the east corner of Coopers Hill Drive, formerly Black St, and Fawkner St because of the way that service stations are disappearing today)and operated as a wheelwright. (George?)Kingshott had his forge on the site of the fruit Mart across Fawkner St. Once when a customer had left a horse to be shod the next morning, George was taken aback to discover it had changed colour overnight, courtesy of some local rascals and their whitewash. John Kingshott was appointed to the school committee so that it would not consist entirely of Presbyterians.
The Broadmeadows Hotel was on the present site with the Victoria Hotel a few yards further up the Ardlie St hill. The latter burnt down in about 1870 and Henry Franklin, the baker, built the Franklins Hotel on the west corner of Fawkner and Bent Sts. Jack Hoctor mistakenly believed that this was named after Sir John Franklin. This hotel also burnt down and the bluestone was used to build the vestry at St Pauls. When town houses were being built on the Bent St corner, the owner discovered the bluestone blocks lining the hotel's cellar; they are still there!
Jack Hoctor was the township's lamplighter and delivered bread for Anderson's bakery between the Oddfellows' Hall and the historic (1869?) bluestone bridge. Anderson's bakery and the old Coach House on the Broad St corner (where Jack was born) remain as reminders of the quiet village. Bob Cargill was the son of one of the township's original butchers. He lived on the north side of Raleigh St near St Pauls and his Victorian house remains. Like all butchers, he had a gum branch to swish flies away from his cutting cart. The death of Bob's young son caused great sadness in the town but he was buried at Bulla! It was assumed in the early days that if you lived near Broadmeadows you were a Scot and as far as I know, the Will Will Rook cemetery (Melway 7 B9)had no sections for each denomination as was the norm. For this reason, many Catholics from Broadmeadows were buried at Keilor or Bulla. The boy was killed when another boy's gun discharged accidentally on a rabbit hunt. The other boy's family (Gra--) felt so uncomfortable that they moved to near the site of the E.J.Whitten bridge.
Boundy's store was where the milk bar operates near the bridge and bike track. As well as cash trade, they operated a barter system whereby a local could, for example, supply eggs to buy goods.(George?) later expanded to Keilor Rd.
Mark Cooper's pioneering endeavours are recalled by Coopers Hill Drive. He was a farmer and related to the family of Charles Nash of Fairview (Melway 5 F6.). Nurse Mitchell was one tough lady. Once she entered the house and rolled up her sleeves, the most domineering husband became a compliant assistant or quickly disappeared, whichever was required. Jim Ahearn was the old-fashioned type of policeman who saved the time of busy magistrates by applying his boot to the backside of any youths who were getting out of hand; and those same rascals loved him for putting them on the right path.
'Twas known as Broadmeadows till the days of the trains
In a picturesque valley cut through the plains.
The ancient St Pauls upon the hill
Looks down on the township which slumbers still.
Kingshott and Ted Wright made their anvils sing;
The Broady and Franklins for having a fling!
Jack Hoctor brought bread and Cargill the meat,
While Boundy's sold a range of goods very complete.
Mark Cooper had much land south of the creek.
When babies were due, Nurse Mitchell we'd seek.
Jim Ahearn was the man who kept peace in the town;
Albert Cook, Shire Secretary of well-won renown.
Up the hill going Greenvale way
Were the Orrs on Kia Ora growing hay:
The Campbells, Hatty, Attwood and Harry Swain
And Bob Jefferies' farm past Dench's Lane.
The monument stands where the windmill once stood.
Our boys went to war to prove their manhood
But grief came to parents, son or daughter;
At Gallipoli they were led like lambs to the slaughter.
On the tops of the hills, subdivisions grow fast,
But the township retains the charms of the past.
EventMarriage Event registration number19320 Registration year1942
Family nameHEAPS Given namesHarry SexUnknown Spouse's family nameROBINSON Spouse's given namesOlive Alice Emily
Harry Heaps came to Tullamarine in 1923 as a twelve year old,his family settling as pig farmers on Wallis Wright's old Sunnyside in Wright St near the Moonee Ponds Creek and east of Harry Nash's Fairview. Young Harry,a nuggety rover, helped to plant the pines around Noah Holland's old 6 acres south of Handlen's house,which The Tullamarine Progress Association acquired and donated to the Broadmeadows Shire at the suggestion of Alec Rasmussen, and is now the Tullamarine Reserve. When he married he moved to a block now occupied by Strathconnan Square (which Harry named for the farm across Derby St.) where he changed to poultry farming.
It's just as well that I had a video camera when I interviewed Harry because he had a story a minute. When a juicy one came up,he'd preface it with, "I shouldn't say this, but..." I remember giving the family a copy of the interview.They'd still be chuckling at the bit when Olive walked in and announced to the camera,"Would you like a cup of tea?" Good old Harry and Olive!
Dr Arun Chandu was writing a thesis about Melbourne Airport and I'd been helping him for some time. He asked:
Do you remember where you got this from?
'An aeroplane race from the Essendon Airport to the Inverness Hotel in the 1930's resulted in a huge fire when a plane crashed, bringing down power lines." Can't find anything about it on trove. I am assuming it was the aero club's race.
Of course it was just another of Harry's anecdotes. The locals probably assumed that it was another Victorian Aero Club race.
This photograph shows all that remained of the Moth aeroplane, in which Mr. Brian Rhodes and Mr. Alfred Heaton crashed near the Essendon aerodrome yesterday. The fabric of the machine had been completely burnt, and pieces of molten metal lay about the ground. On the left is the battered petrol tank; in the centre are the engine and one of the landing wheels, and on the right is the metal portion of one of the wings. P.8, Argus, 27-12-1928.)
The map on page 7 shows that although understanding of the location of the relatively new St. John's Field/ Essendon Aerodrome was fairly vague, the crash happened at the south east corner of Tommy Loft's "Dalkeith".
Walter George Mansfield b.30-7-1909 d. 29-7-1992. (P.588 THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY, Neil Hamilton Mansfield.)
Although Wally thought that the later Mansfield home was Allas instead of Glenalice, his anecdotes were so great that I was inspired to write them in verse, such as DEATH AT BERTRAM'S FORD, THE STUDEBAKER, THE WISDOM OF SOLOMON and this one about cunning David Mansfield.
A river frontage came up for sale
Near Aucholzie’s in Deep Creek’s vale.
Malcolm Ritchie determined this prize to win;
“I’ll outbid Mansfield!” he swore with a grin.
When the auction began, the bidding was keen
But David Mansfield was nowhere seen;
Soon Ritchie had all his opponents licked
Apart from a swagman most derelict.
Ritchie bid with cunning stealth.
“This ragged fool can’t have much wealth,”
He thought, “It won’t be long,
And I’ll snap this land up for a song!”
The question then came, “Are you all done?
Has Malcolm Ritchie this prize land won?”
But the stranger’s hand was raised again
And a hush came over the assembled men.
The swaggie’s bids, forever higher,
Saw Ritchie’s iron resolve expire;
From the stranger then, the last bid came.
“The property’s yours sir! Now what’s your name?”
All faces turned to this ill-clad bloke,
Waiting expectantly until he spoke.
Ritchie’s anger was scarce concealed,
His blood flow stopped, he almost keeled,
As a lift of the hat, the stranger’s face revealed
And everyone gasped, “It’s David Mansfield!”
According to Neil Mansfield's THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY, Winnie, born in 1918 and named Freda May Parr, was the daughter of Samuel Noah Parr and Florence Maria, nee Wright. She married Gordon Lewis and was living in Collins St, North Essendon in 1989. She supplied much information including that she'd grown up at The Elms outside which was the 10 mile post from Melbourne and the Oaklands Hunt used to ride through this property and her Uncle Bill Parr's property (Annandale) which adjoined it. Unfortunately her birth and marriage records have not been entered on Victorian BDM.
By far, Winnie's greatest contribution to the celebration of Tullamarine's fascinating history was her black book. She was responsible for contacting all of the pre-suburban Tullamarine residents who attended the 1989 and 1998 reunions at the Spring St hall while Leo Dineen contacted all the later residents before 1971 that I did not personally know.
No birth record can be found for Keith but the caption under the photo of him at the field day at Tullamarine in 1935 stated that he was three years old.
As Keith's place in May St was only 5 minutes walk from my place in Dorothy St, I probably pumped him for information more than any other of my informants. On my first visit, he produced the article about THE CLAN McNAB written in about 1960 when Oakbank was purchased for airport purposes. He was a wizard on names of properties in the area and could spin a yarn as well, like Harry Heaps and Wally Mansfield. One of the Fox boys didn't use a whip if his horses were a bit lazy when delivering milk to Hogan's dairy in Queen St at the south corner of Mt Alexander and Keilor Rds in Nth Essendon; he'd just fire a couple of mud balls that he'd scraped off his gumboots. Cornelius Peter Blom, a journalist who farmed the second Victoria Bank on the north side of Barbiston Rd used to arrive home from work in a chartered bus. When electricity became available, the McNab brothers didn't bother getting the Oakbank homestead wired and would listen to a radio which was powered by a car battery.
Keith supplied a thorough genealogy of the McNab Clan and information about their properties.
Gary Vines contacted me in 2014. It turned out that he was doing an archeological survey of land along Mansfields and Barbiston roads which will become part of Melbourne Airport to allow construction of the second E-W runway. One of the sources that Gary emailed me was an ordnance map which had the original Mansfield residence, Roseleigh, wrongly labelled Victoria Bank (see attached map.) Information supplied by Keith and Neil Hamilton Mansfield enabled me to explain to Gary why this was wrong.
I have had your comments on the Tullamarine study passed on to me and they make fascinating reading, although I have to confess, I am still mightily confused as to the various owners of properties in the area. While there are references to the area around Tullamarine Township, I am presently most concerned about the remaining building ruins on blocks in Sections VIII, IX, XIII, XIV & XVII – i.e. the land between the runways and Maribyrnong River. I note your remarks about Rosebank/Roseleigh and the identification of the second Victoria Bank, but I wonder what your view is of the 1930s Army Ordnance Map that shows buildings on Mansfield Rd labelled 'Victoria Bank', which has possibly led David Moloney and myself astray.
I put Gary and Neil in touch with each other.
From: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, 23 June 2014 11:19
To: Neil Mansfield
Thanks for the information and pictures Neil.
Unfortunately the airport people demolished the house some time ago. We are only looking at the site for possible archaeological features now.
We are also looking at Glen Alice, the McNab's Victoria Bank, Seafield and Oakbank, Barbiston, Aucholzie, a stone ruin near the Glenara dam, and a stone ruin on the bend of the river at the west end of Mansfield Road, that --- ---- has suggested was Gray/Grey's farm.
This last one is interesting as it may be related to Fawkner's land company.
Would it be OK for us to use your photos in our report on the area (with proper acknowledgment of course) We hope to get the Airport management to at least do some interpretation of the history of the area.
All the best
You can't always believe what you read and Frank Wright's death notice is a prime example.
WRIGHT.—On the 22nd April, at private hospital, Darling, Frank Wright, of Strathavon, Tullamarine, husband of the late Jessie Wright, and loving father of Mary (Mrs. E.Barwick, Glen Iris), Harry (Landsborough West), and Alex, loving granddad of Judith and Peter Barwick, in his 78th year. (P.1, Argus,23-4-1936.)
WRIGHT.— On the 22nd April, Frank, second son of the late Wallis and Mary Wright, Tullamarine. (Interred Bulla Cemetery, April 23.) P.13, ARGUS, 25-4-1936.
The death notice illustrates why I had not find a death record for Frank in Victorian BDM. Frank had married Jessie Rowe not long after she had transferred from the Holden school to Tullamarine S.S. 2613. She had died in 1935 at the Alfred Hospital.
Miss Rowe, the new teacher, was tendered a complimentary social on leaving the Holden school for Tullamarine.--'Essendon Gazette.' (P.2, The Sunbury News, 25-4-1903.)
A very enjoyable. evening was spent in the Tullamarine State School on September 28th, when about eighty of the scholars and their friends assembled to say goodbye to Miss J. T.Rowe, the late head teacher, who has severed herconnection with the Education Department.------. He (James Henry Parr) also said that although sorry to lose such a good teacher they had the pleasure of knowing that Miss Rowe would not leave the district, but as Mrs
Frank Wright would still reside amongst them.(P.1, Independent, Footscray, 10-10-1908.)
JESSIE ROWE'S MARRIAGE NOTICE.
EventMarriage Event registration number5670 Registration year1908
Family nameROWE Given namesJessie Thomson SexUnknown Spouse's family nameWRIGHT Spouse's given namesFrank
EventDeath Event registration number6724 Registration year1935
Family nameWRIGHT Given namesJessie Thompson SexFemale Father's nameROWE John Henry Mother's nameCath (Mcivor) Place of birth Place of deathPRAHRAN Age63
Frank was one of the sons of Wallis and Mary Wright of "Sunnyside" (which from 1923 became the property of William Heaps and his 14 year old son, HARRY HEAPS.) In 1908, Mary died at Frank's farm, which is ALMOST correctly named in her death notice.
WRIGHT.—On the 17th September, at the residence of her son, "Strathconon," Broadmeadows-road, Tullamarine, Mary, relict of the late Wallis Wright,Surrey Sid.(Sunnyside), Tullamarine, aged 80 years. A colonist of 5 years.
HARRY HEAPS grew up on Sunnyside and when he married in 1942*, he moved to Bulla Rd onto two acre blocks(judging by his frontage of about 40 metres in 1989) now occupied by Strathconnan Square at Melway 5 G 9-10. His interest in Tullamarine's history was intense and many of his anecdotes are recorded in my WHERE BIG BIRDS SOAR (1989.)
EventMarriage Event registration number19320 Registration year1942
Family nameHEAPS Given namesHarry SexUnknown Spouse's family nameROBINSON Spouse's given namesOlive Alice Emily
His blocks backed onto Derby Street and the north west corner of Strathconan was just across Derby St, or the back lane as it was known. When he subdivided the land around his house, he named the subdivision street. Come to think of it, Harry might have been the person who told me that Frederic Ferdinand Kowarzik, manager of Australian National Airways and owner of Strathconan in the 1940's and 1950's till he sold it to Stanley Korman, was persuaded to change his surname to Kay.
The only thing that puzzled me was that Harry pronounced the farm name with a long O but the street name appeared in Melway as STRATHCONNAN; the DOUBLE N would have made the vowel short. Strathconnan is a place in Scotland but there was no such place in Victoria. Therefore I believe the following stock report refers to Frank Wright and his brother at Tullamarine and has the correct spelling of their farm name.
AGENTS' REPORTS FAT SHEEP.
Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954) Saturday 2 March 1918 p 34 Article
... . Parrls; Blairgowrie Estate, to £1/0/9; 59, Wright Bros., Strathconan,; at £1/2/,
However, as in the case of Clackmannon or Clackmannan, Strathconnan (in Scotland) also seems to be commonly written as Strathconon so the spelling in Mary Wright's death notice could be correct. The farm's name was definitely not STRATHAVON as written in Frank's death notice.
KOWARZIK —PALMER. —Lorraine, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. F. F. Kowarzik, Tullamarine, to Eric,only son of Mr. and Mrs. C. Palmer, Tullamarine.(ENGAGEMENTS. P.8, Argus, 7-2-1948.)
Both families were on Old Broadmeadows Rd, since renamed Mickleham Rd, probably when the road was constructed north of Forman St to cross the Moonee Ponds Creek because of the bottleneck caused near the Broadmeadows Hotel when cars had to turn left up the Ardlie St hill to reach Mickleham Rd.
The Palmers had John Mansfield's former "Grandview", the southern 169 acres of "Viewpoint" fronting the east side of the road with the north boundary near Finningley Drive and the south boundary adjoining Camp Hill Park in Melway 15 J1. Kowarzik had "Strathconan", 142 acres bounded by the Freight Rd/ Londrew Court midline (S), the line of Derby St (SW) and Mickleham Rd north to about the McDonalds site.
Having been acting manager of Australian National Airways, F.Kowarzik had become general manager by 1952.
The name of the owner of Strathconan in Broadmeadows rate records soon after changed to Kay. I can't recall who it was that told me he had been pressured to change his name, possibly Keith McNab. He'd become F.Kay by 1955!
Mr. F. Kay, A.N.A. general manager, said his company's tourist class service would operate from October 2
with DC-4 Skymasters seating 60 passengers. (P.5, Argus, 21-9-1955.)
FROM WIKIPEDIA (AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL AIRWAYS.)
Takeover by Ansett Transport Industries
After initially dismissing his offer, the ANA board began talking with Reginald Ansett, head of the much smaller Ansett Transport Industries; with its main interstate operation Ansett Airways. Finally, ANA was sold to Ansett, on 3 October 1957, for £3.3 million. The two airlines were merged to form Ansett-ANA on 21 October 1957 and the name was retained until 1 November 1968 when it was renamed Ansett Airlines of Australia.
Frederic Kowarzik's sister, Anne, married Ted Dalley, a descendant of Samuel Dalley a Hawthorn pioneer in 1852.
FROM ted dalley*s story - Hawthorn Historical Society
Charles married Sarah Power, the daughter of Thomas Power, another Hawthorn pioneer, at the family home Denmark Hill, Upper Hawthorn. They had six children; one of whom, Selina, married Albert Hatherley of Hatherley & Horsfield paint merchants of Burwood Road, Hawthorn. Charles & Sarah’s youngest son was Harry Power Dalley, the father of Ted, who married Anne Kowarzik . Anne’s brother Frederic became managing director of Australian National Airlines.
Frederic Ferdinand Kowarzik was on "Strathconan" by 1946.
JOHN WALLIS MURRAY. Late of 36 Waterdale Road,- Ivanhoe, Chief Steward, Deceased.-After fourteen clear days we, Charles Fairfax Telford, of Kyneton, contractor, and Frederic Ferdinand Kowarzik, of Broadmeadows road,
Tullamarine, the executors appointed by deceased's will (dated the 14th day of January, 1941) will APPLY to the
Supreme Court for grant of PROBATE of the said WILL.(P.22, Argus, 3-7-1946.)
HOBBS - KOWARZIK. - June, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Hobbs, of Douglas, to Ken, only son of Mr. and Mrs.F.F. Kowarzik, of Tullamarine. (ENGAGEMENTS, P.8, Argus, 9-11-1946.)
Having been born at Traralgon in 1898, Frederic was of an age to enlist in W.W.1.
EventBirth Event registration number7089 Registration year1898
Family nameKOWARZIK Given namesFrederic Ferdinand SexMale Father's nameEdmund Mother's nameJanet (Wilson) Place of birthTRARALGON
Frederick Ferdinand KOWARZIK
Regimental number 1220
Place of birth Traralgon Victoria
Address Drouin, Victoria
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 18
Next of kin Father, E Kowarzik, Drouin, Victoria
Enlistment date 4 February 1916
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 37th Battalion, D Company
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/54/1
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A34 Persic on 3 June 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll Corporal
Unit from Nominal Roll 3rd Divisional Signal Company
Fate Effective abroad (still overseas)*
*PHOTO OF FREDERIC WITH FURTHER SERVICE RECORD DETAILS (but his father's name is wrongly given as Frederick.)
Ko-Kz - WWI Pictorial Honour Roll of Victorians
FREDERIC WAS MARRIED IN 1925.
EventMarriage Event registration number9313 Registration year1925
Family nameKOWARZIK Given namesFrederick Ferdinand SexUnknown Spouse's family nameTHYER Spouse's given namesNorma Elaine
Charles Palmer and Frederick sold their Tullamarine farms (as shown in the map on page 196 of Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS A FORGOTTEN HISTORY)to Stanley Korman in the 1950's and while Charles Palmer's widow was still living in the homestead of their farm in 1973, Frederick Kay had probably moved away in 1957 when Reg. Ansett bought Australian National Airways.
PHOTO OF BILL STONEY'S BRICK HOUSE AT TULLAMARINE THAT CAUSED A BREAK IN THE SERVICE ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE OF MICKLEHAM ROAD.
In the early 1950's Stanley Korman had purchased three farms on the east side of Old Broadmeadows Road between Forman St, the south boundary of Broadmeadows Township, and today's Camp Hill Park. The farms were "Gladstone" from Forman St south to the Lackenheath Drive corner purchased from F.N Levin in 1954, the northern 159 acres of Viewpoint south to about 40 metres north of the Scampton Crescent corner purchased from Bill Stoney and the southern 169 acres of Viewpoint purchased from Charles Palmer. These purchases and others are shown on page 196 and 197 of Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.
Korman's Bullseye plan of subdivision of his land between old Broadmeadows and the Albion-Jacana railway line fronted Old Broadmeadows Road but Korman's companies went broke and development of Gladstone Park did not start until Costains purchased Gladstone in 1964. By this time the construction of Tullamarine Airport had begun and land was reserved for the Tullamarine Freeway, thus isolating land on the three farms mentioned above, west of the freeway to Old Broadmeadows Rd, which was developed later as the Gladstone Gardens Estate. This estate may have included Strathconan whose main access roads were Freight Rd and Garden Drive because the service road on the east side of Old Broadmeadows Rd (now called Mickleham Rd)was directly linked with Garden Drive in Melway 5 J11.
When Bill Stoney and Charles Palmer, who obviously regained ownership of their farms due to Korman's insolvency, sold their farms again, they must have done so on the condition that their ADJOINING homestead blocks would be exempted from the Gladstone Gardens subdivision and with these two house blocks fronting the original chain wide road there was an 80 metre gap in the service road with access to the southern section of the service road provided just north of the Scampton Crescent corner.
Incidentally, Korman's original bullseye plan on page 197 of BROADMEADOWS A FORGOTTEN HISTORY (which Andrew Lemon vaguely describes as being from "a brochure issued during the campaign against siting a new jetport at Tullamarine") was actually from THE CASE AGAINST A JETPORT AT TULLAMARINE, published by Walter V. Murphy, a copy of which was provided to me by descendants of Tullamarine pioneers, was given to the Tullamarine Library and should be available at the Hume Global Learning Centre at Broadmeadows. No doubt Korman financed the brochure.
Charles Palmer had died by 1973 when I started the Tullamarine Kindergarten Association's paper drives. Dear old Mrs Palmer, who lived in the weatherboard house immediately south of Bill Stoney's brick house and part of the break in the service road, saved her papers for me and always insisted that I share a cuppa with her before I left. Her house was possibly built by John Mansfield when he bought the southern 169 acres of "Viewpoint" and called it "Grandview" but may have been Edmond Dunn's original homestead built in 1849 or even John Martin Ardlie's homestead of 1843.
THE LLOYDS OF TODAY'S ATTWOOD, MICKLEHAM AND TULLAMARINE AND THE WILLIAMSONS OF GREENVALE, VIC., UST.
THE LLOYDS OF TODAY'S ATTWOOD, MICKLEHAM AND TULLAMARINE AND THE WILLIAMSONS OF GREENVALE.
I owe a huge debt to Syd Lloyd and his brother, George, for contributing so much to my knowledge of a huge area around Tullamarine so hopefully this journal will be useful for anyone undertaking the writing of a Lloyd family history. George wrote his wonderful "MICKLEHAM ROAD FROM 1920 TO 1952" which inspired and greatly aided my dictionary history of Tullamarine and miles around (and has assisted heritage citations such as the one for KALKALLO PARK)while Sid's information and history road tour was supplemented when he introduced me to Bob Blackwell, who like Sid and George, knew every square inch of the area.
SID LLOYD’S FAMILY.
Event registration number10968
Given namesSarah Elizabeth
Father's nameSMITH Francis
Mother's nameMary (Doolan)
Place of birthDEVENISH
Place of deathMELBOURNE
Benalla Ensign (Vic. : 1938 - 1954) Friday 28 July 1939 p 2 Article
... . J. T. Martin of Devenish. * * Mrs. W. Lloyd, of Mickleham, is re-newing acquaintances in the Deven ...643 words
The DEATH has occurred of Mrs
'Lloyd, of , Mickleham, a sister of
Messrs 'Wallace and Hugh Smith, Car
dinia. (P.20, Dandenong Journal, 22-11-1939.)
SMITH.-On the 31st October, at his residence, St.
Mungo, Clyde*, Nicholas Charles, dearly loved
son of Mary and the late F. G. Smith, loved
brother of Jim (Geelong), George (Christchurch,
New Zealand), Wallace, Sarah (Mrs. Lloyd,
Broadmeadows*), Hugh, Bruce (Oakleigh), and
Mary (Mrs. H. McLean, Bellarine), aged 50
years. (P.1, Argus, 1-11-1928.)
* This was while William Lloyd was share farming with the Orrs near Broadmeadows Township and before the family moved to Mickleham as detailed in George Lloyd's history. I also recall that George stated that his father had come to Broadmeadows circa 1920 from Clyde.
SID’S PARENTS’ MARRIAGE.
From a LLOYD, MICKLEHAM search on trove, I discovered in a stock report that his father was W.M.Lloyd.
Event registration number1221
Given namesWm Morris
Spouse's family nameSMITH
Spouse's given namesSarah Elizth
SID’S FATHER’S DEATH.
Event registration number21398
Given namesWilliam Morris
Father's nameLLOYD William
Mother's nameMary Ann (Morris)
Place of birthWALES
Place of deathROMSEY
SID’S BIRTH? (YES!)
Event registration number901
Given namesSydney Evans
Father's nameWm Morris
Mother's nameSarah Elzth (Smith)
Place of birthBERWICK
EVIDENCE THAT THE COPY OF GEORGE LLOYD’S HISTORY THAT I PROVIDED IS AT THE HUME GLOBAL LEARNING CENTRE.
23 Tudehope, 'Kalkallo - A Link with the Past', in The Victorian Historical Magazine, November 1961, p.114; also George M Lloyd, 'Mickleham Road: From 1920 to 1952' (unpublished typescript, 1 September 1985), p 13.
Footnote on the second last page of:
NAMES ON MICKLEHAM WAR MEMORIAL.
Bruce 69Y 13/07/1925* 08/07/1994 00/07/1994 Presb. 6 19 Twin son of William Morris Lloyd & Sarah Elizabeth Smith.
(*There's no Victorian BDM birth record for Bruce.)
Glenys Elizabeth 6Y10M 00/00/1957 18/12/1963 23/12/1963 Presb. 6 13 Daughter of Sydney Evans Lloyd & Alice Pearl White. Died in Tullamarine, Victoria, Australia.
William Morris 75Y 00/00/1885 06/02/1960 10/02/1960 Presb. 6 19 Son of William Lloyd & Mary Ann Morris. Died in Romsey, Victoria, Australia.
IS THIS WHY SYD'S DAD DIED AT ROMSEY?
SERVICEMEN ON THE LAND
First Settlement at Romsey
First ex-servicemen to be allotted blocks under subdivisional settlement in Victoria, and to actually occupy their farms were Messrs. D. P. Jones and W. J.Lloyd, at Romsey. They were allotted blocks on March 21, 1947,and occupied them on May 1,1947.(P.3, The Age, 10-9-1947.)
W.J. Lloyd was probably the J.Lloyd on the Mickleham War Memorial. This could be his service record, and George's and Syd's follow.
Name - World War Two Nominal Roll
Name LLOYD, WILLIAM JOHN
Service Australian Army
Service Number V52151
Date of Birth 22 Oct 1919
Place of Birth BERWICK, VIC
Date of Enlistment 17 Aug 1940
Locality on Enlistment ESSENDON, VIC
Place of Enlistment MOONEE PONDS, VIC
Next of Kin LLOYD, WILLIAM
Date of Discharge 9 May 1941
Posting at Discharge 2 Medium Regiment
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No
Name LLOYD, GEORGE MORRIS
Service Australian Army
Service Number VX57551
Date of Birth 25 Mar 1917
Place of Birth BERWICK, VIC
Date of Enlistment 11 Jun 1941
Locality on Enlistment MICKLEHAM, VIC
Place of Enlistment ROYAL PARK, VIC
Next of Kin LLOYD, WILLIAM
Date of Discharge 1 Mar 1946
Posting at Discharge 2/12 FIELD REGIMENT
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No
Name LLOYD, SYDNEY EVANS
Service Australian Army
Service Number VX57550
Date of Birth 8 Feb 1916
Place of Birth BERWICK, VIC
Date of Enlistment 11 Jun 1941
Locality on Enlistment MICKLEHAM, VIC
Place of Enlistment ROYAL PARK, VIC
Next of Kin LLOYD, W
Date of Discharge Unknown
Posting at Discharge 2/12 FIELD REGIMENT
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No
Thank goodness for this roll because Victorian BDM only had a birth record for Sid.
GREENVALE PRIMARY SCHOOL – ROLL CALL 1933
RUTH Nancy Margaret
RUTH Veronica Joan
GILLIES Donald Cameron
TILLEY Charles William
Mr Lloyd moved and Mr Hatty seconded – that in view of the fact that the money which had been collected for breakup day was destroyed when the school was burned, the Committee agrees to make a further effort to arrange for a function to celebrate the opening of the new school when completed (the building having be removed from Sunshine and re-erected at Greenvale).
FROM THE SAME HISTORY.
Extracts of “Going to school yester year” by Gordon Williamson.
The Williamson family represented 3 generations or 50 years connection with the school. I spent 18 years as a committee member, my father spent 29 years. I remember starting school in 1936 by walking to school 1 mile with my brother and sister, rain, hail or shine. Some families walked up to 5 miles “as the crow flies” to get to school. When I started school there were horse yards to tether horses while at school. The older boys at school were let out 5 minutes before so they could saddle up the horses for the children.
My teachers were Mr Sprake and Mr Swan who used to push a bike from Broadmeadows railway station everyday, morning and night, 7 mile each way. At school there were 24 students from grade 1 to grade 8, one teacher, and a sewing mistress just in the afternoons.In those days at school we had no electricity or telephone, but we did have open fires to warm the school. For lighting arrangements we had kerosene lamps to see when it was a little dark. The school had board floors, no carpets. School was used as a social meeting place such as dances, concerts, card nights, kitchen teas, and farewell parties because there were no other halls or buildings to have these functions in. Next door to the school (CORNER OF SOMERTON AND SECTION RDS) there was a post office, store and a telephone exchange.
We started the week at school with the flag raising, saluting the flag and singing “God save the Queen”. Each morning following we would do the “weather chart”. Some of our classes consisted of arithmetic, tables off by heart, spelling, reading, writing plus geography, history, nature study (walks) composition.If we were naughty we were either given the strap or lines to write at home, same in small grade 1 where I sat in the corner when naughty.
Some of our sporting material was a football stuffed with paper, cricket was with an old tennis ball with a bat made out of a piece of wood by one of the children’s dads. as it was war time and it was hard to buy any sporting equipment.
Our roads to the school were gravel and muddy in the winter time. Mickleham road was cobblestone. Mickleham road was known then as Old Sydney road. 2 mile north was stop 1 for Cobb & Co coaches, for the changing of horses and drivers. The Blue stone stable house is still there today (1993).
In 1956 Mickleham Road, Somerton Road and Pascoe Vale Roads were used as the Olympic bike track. The roads were sealed as bitumen roads for that event. Before this they were very rough dirt roads. It was a long way to go shopping as people went by horse and buggy to North Essendon or Puckle Street once a fortnight or month. Men folk would drop families to shop and they would travel on toNewmarket yards to see and buy stock (cattle, sheep, and horses). Newmarket saleyards were one of the largest cattle markets in the world.
Greenvale area was farming, dairy, sheep, pigs and beef. I myself came off a dairy farm on which this school is now situated (current Greenvale primary school in Bradford Avenue). We milked cows, grew crops etc. The farm was workedwith draught horses. I left school in grade 8 and went home to work on the farm with my dad. I drew a 6 horse team ploughing paddocks to grow crops to feed the stock. As time went on we had the power (electricity) put on in Greenvale plus telephones to homes. This all happened around 1950. Instead of manual, the Telephone Exchange became automatic.
As the years went by the school bus started to take children into Essendon to high school and tech school. Then there were buses to take workers into Melbourne. Prior to this people worked at home or boarded in Melbourne. I then married and lived in Greenvale and my children started to go to Greenvale State School. 2 members were dux of the school. That was Gayle in 1970 and Lynda in 1976. My son Craig holds records in the combined school sports for running and jumping. These sports were held between West Meadows, Tullamarine, Bulla, Mickleham, Craigieburn, Kalkallo and Greenvale. They were held once a year at different locations. The last member of the Williamson family left Greenvale School in 1976.
Gordon Williamson apparently married John Denham's daughter.
DENHAM-WILLIAMSON.—Mr.and Mrs. J. Denham. Bulla road, Tullamarine, have pleasure in announcing the engagement of their only daughter, Ivy Joan to Gordon Keith, younger son of Mrs. H.Williamson and the late Mr. H.Williamson. Greenvale.(P.8, Argus, 12-1-1954.)
WILLIAMSON (Derham).-Joan and Gordon happily announce the arrival of Gayle Lynn on December 5, at Sacred Heart, Moreland. (Both well.)(P.12 , Argus, 10-12-1956.)
AT LAST, PROOF THAT OLIVE WILLIAMSON MARRIED GEORGE MORRIS LLOYD. HUGH WILLIAMSON HAD DIED IN 1953.
EventDeath Event registration number8722 Registration year1953
Family nameWILLIAMSON Given namesHugh SexMale Father's nameWILLIAMSON James Mother's nameRebecca (Watkins) Place of birthWARRAGUL Place of deathPARKVILLE Age55
WILLIAMSON, Hugh. —On August 7 (suddenly), at Royal Melbourne Hospital, beloved husband of Bertha, of Dunvegan, Green Vale, loved father of Ollie (Mrs.Lloyd), Jim, Marj (Mrs. H. Bradley), Joan, Joyce (Mrs. N. Taylor),Gordon, Vera, Thelma, Jessie, and Pam.—One day we will all be reunited. (Interred August 10.)
(P.11, Argus, 11-8-1953.)
WAS THIS HUGH'S WIDOW? (YES!)
EventDeath Event registration number5669 Registration year1956
Family nameWILLIAMSON Given namesBertha Annie SexFemale Father's nameZERBE August Johann Mother's nameBertha (Fuhrman) Place of birthDONCASTER EAST Place of deathFITZROY Age56
BERTHA AND HUGH'S MARRIAGE RECORD.
EventMarriage Event registration number3747 Registration year1921
Family nameZERBE Given namesBertha Annie SexUnknown Spouse's family nameWILLIAMSON Spouse's given namesHugh
Hugh led the search for Hetty, the last of the McKerchars in Greenvale.
Woman, 80, .Trapped By Mud In Dam
TRAPPED in a dam for more than five hours when she sank in mud on Saturday morning, Miss Henrietta McKerchar, 80, of Greenvale, near Broadmeadows,was rescued by searchers led by Mr Hugh Williamson, of Greenvale, near Broadmeadows, She died later in Royal Melbourne Hospital from bronchial pneumonia and effects of exposure. The dam was on Miss McKerchar's property, where she lived alone. She was worried because the pool was drying up and carp in it were dying. (P.27, WeeklyTimes, 23-2-1944.)
Although I made my notes (since discarded) from Greenvale:Links with the Past about 27 years ago, I remember the story told by Annette Davis (now Ferguson) well. Hetty was living on Springfield North, the northern 180 acres of the crown allotment across Somerton Rd from Dunvegan and about half a mile from Hugh's farm. Hetty's farm was later bought by the Gambles who named it Brocklands after John Brock a pioneer north of Bulla and then at Janefield near Bundoora. This farm is now occupied by Aitken College. The farm between Brocklands and Dunvegan was a dairy farm owned by Wal French, (as mentioned in George Lloyd's history and recalled by the name of French Rd.)
Like many of my journals about the Tullamarine area, this journal started from a post in the WE REMEMBER TULLAMARINE Facebook group page. I had two entries still to write in my FIELD DAY AT TULLAMARINE IN 1935, about the DENHAM and STONEY families, and realised that I wouldn't have known anything about them but for George's mention of Bill Stoney being, as I recall, "down Dench's Lane*" in his MICKLEHAM ROAD history and Syd telling me about John Denham owning the land north of Percy Hurren's Dalkeith and Bill Stoney having built the brick house which separated the two sections of the service road on the east side of Mickleham Rd between the freeway and the intersection with Melrose Drive. Having added the Denham and Stoney information in the Field Day journal and lost it due to internet problems, it occurred to me that while George and Sid had provided me with so much information, I had provided nothing about their family that could be accessed on the internet.
*The boundary between the parishes of Will Will Rook (south) and Yuroke (north) is a line indicated by Swain St (Melway 178 H11) forming the southern boundary of Providence Plains and the former timber reserve to the west. Dench's Lane, never a declared road, continued the parish boundary on the east side of Mickleham Rd between Bob Jefferies' farm to the north and Springbank to the south and was named after the butchering family which had land, possibly near Mossgeil Avenue.
As Facebook posts were still submitting, albeit slowly, I wrote a post on WE REMEMBER TULLAMARINE in an effort to make contact with the late Syd Lloyd's daughter, adding some information about the family, the genesis of this journal, and the following comments were posted.
Brenda Kittelty Hi ---, I'm Syd Lloyd's daughter 😁 I'm seeing Mum later today so I'll double check with her. Watch this space.
Caroline Field Went to state school with Eric Denham
Bessie Peart Apparently a lot of the documents & publications that were in the local History section of the library were given to the Broadmeadows historical society. Several years ago.
Brenda Kittelty Ok, according to Mum, Hughie Williamson had a daughter Olive, who married Dad’s next youngest brother George. Dad (Syd) was the eldest of 6 and George was about 15 months younger than him. Hope this helps.
ME. Thanks Brenda Kittelty. I'd thought George was older that your dad and realised that must be wrong when I saw Syd's birth year. I had suspected that it was George who'd married a Williamson girl. Hopefully I can find the marriage record because the quest for a marriage notice looks like a fizzer.
ME. Brenda Kittelty, I hope the information I have provided will prove useful for anyone who undertakes the writing of a family history. If I find anything else, I'll include it in the post.
Brenda Kittelty Thanks ---. All this work you do is quite inspiring! William John Lloyd was known as Jack (my Uncle Jack) and I think you'll find another military service record for him. He, Dad and Uncle George all enlisted together and all served in the 2/12th Field Regiment for the duration of WWII. I believe Uncle Jack's rank upon discharge was Sergeant and he may also have been awarded a medal for bravery, but that wasn't something he liked to talk about.
They're all gone now, and Mum at 98 is the only one of her generation left. She is Alice Lloyd (née White) and she and Dad married on 1 March, 1947. Her older brother, Alan White, had an interesting war story. He was captured by the Germans on Crete and spent the war as a POW in a number of German prisoner-of-war camps. He and his wife Gwen (née Cocking) had a poultry farm in Mickleham despite Uncle Alan's terribly poor health.
BECAUSE OF GEORGE'S HISTORY,TO ME, WHITE AND COCKING ARE NAMES LINKED IMMEDIATELY WITH MICKLEHAM.
Alfred White was discussed in the aforementioned citation for the Kalkallo Park homestead and Whites Lane at Melway 386 A4-7 recalls the family. I'd meant to ask Brenda if Syd had met Alice at Mickleham.
The Cockings may have been on Donnybrook Rd but George's history would state EXACTLY where it was, because he listed the latter pioneers on EVERY road.
CHRIS McLENNAN, The Weekly Times
June 10, 2016 12:00am
VICTORIA’S most expensive farm has been sold and will be chopped up for housing.
The 214ha cattle farm at Mickleham, on the northern outskirts of Melbourne, was sold to a developer for an undisclosed price, believed to be more than $60 million.
The land had been owned by the pioneering Cocking family for more than a century.
RUDDUCK MEANS RED DUCK.
"The fourth of the Rudduck family who came to Australia, the Rev. Joseph Rudduck, had married James Hudson's sister, Hannah, and they brought their five children to Melbourne. It was his son Harold, who, having graduated from the Melbourne Science College, was a pioneer in the manufacture of veterinary medicines in Victoria. The trademark was a red duck and the factory was near Nepean Highway in Moorabbin." (P. 62, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA".)
I have an impressive collection of local histories, most of the books tokens of appreciation from the Broadmeadows, Keilor and Essendon Historical Societies, Friends of the Will Will Rook Cemetery, Neil Mansfield, and Stephen, Helen, Barry and Bettyanne, who first knew me as itellya, in regard to Peninsula history. Janilye, a fellow member of family tree circles has also given me two histories, and the one I received two days ago courtesy of her daughter who teaches at Mornington Park Primary School, is BATTLERS TAMED A SANDBELT, Tom Sheehy's book about the first 50 years of the City of Moorabbin.
The day after I received the book, my mate was attending the funeral of a lady, Elsie Ruby Lilian Wishart, nee White, who died at the remarkable age of 105, having been born in 1912 and wed to William James Wishart in 1940. Her parents and those of her husband had been competitors in the same trade at Moorabbin in its early days. It was Cr. Wishart who suggested a Back to Moorabbin in 1934 when Moorabbin was becoming a city!
When I came to page 39, I was blown away by the actual site of the Rudduck Veterinarian facility at Moorabbin and what was proposed to be built next door. Nelson Rudduck would probably have been involved in the protest apart from one minor detail . But before I get onto that, here's how the press regarded the veterinary station.
P. 39, BATTLERS TAMED A SANDBELT.
"Rudducks bought land at the corner of Nepean Highway and Dane Road in 1935 for the purpose of moving their veterinary hospital from Flinders Lane to that site but protests were made regarding their close proximity to the Worthing Road State School 1111, and almost a year passed by the time they were given the green light for the project. Next door to Rudducks and just as the veterinarian hospital was being prepared for its opening date in May 1936, surveyors began to lay pegs* in connection with the establishment of the English firm of W. and A. Gilbey Limited's first Australian distillery.
(* Council had approved Gilbeys plans on June 1 1935. P. 40 of above book.)
"Now the Gilbey's project came under fire from nearby residents" (and various organisations such as the Independent Order of Rechabites.)
The strange thing was that there was no similar protest when the Moorabbin Hotel opened in 1934. Was Harold Rudduck a fervent fighter for temperance like Dromana's Nelson Rudduck* who would have been rallying the Moorabbin I.O.R. members, had he not died in 1935.
* RECHABITES' CENTENARY.
The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) Saturday 23 March 1935 p 5
Almost lifelong service was rendered to tho organisation by Mr. Nelson Rudduck, of Dromana, who died a few weeks ago.
The protests had no effect and the 1-6-1935 resolution was confirmed by council on 9-7-1935.
Graham Whitehead, the City of Kingston's historian, who used my research in THE MYSTERIOUS HENRY GOMM to write an article entitled TWO DISTINCT GOMM FAMILIES, has written an excellent article about the Gilbey's Gin plant and pinpoints its location being north of Rudducks land (fronting the highway and Dane Rd) as Gilbey's fronted Exley Rd.
GILBEYS AT MOORABBIN
It would appear that Tom Sheehy had the wrong year regarding the original approval and confirmation thereof being in 1935, based on the following paragraph in Graham's article. The official opening was on Wednesday, 3-11-1937.
"The Moorabbin Shire Council was interested in attracting industry to the municipality because industry provided employment opportunities for a growing population and strengthened the financial basis of the Council through the rates it paid. At the meeting of Council on May 18, 1936, F. N. Collins, the solicitor representing Gilbey’s, explained that the company had obtained an option to purchase land on the corner of Point Nepean Road and Exley Road and it was there the company intended to build a modern distillery. However, before committing themselves to the project they required the Council to rezone the land from its classification of residential to industrial."
It would appear from the photos in the article that the Gilbey's chimney has been demolished but every time I'm driving through Melway 77 E6, Dane Rd. will remind me of Harold Rudduck and Exley Rd of Gilbey's Gin.
THE BRILLANT SUGGESTION IN 1953 BY GEORGE ADAMS OF NORTH COBURG, MELBOURNE, VIC., AUST. & TULLAMARINE HISTORY.
In the last decade or so, the sand at Portsea's beautiful beach has completely disappeared because Jenny Warfe and her Blue Wedge coalition were ignored by both sides of politics which gave bipartisan support for lowering the rock shelf at the heads. Just after the effects of the dredging began to be noticed, a Portsea oldtimer wrote to a local paper, possibly a member of the famed Watson fishing family which had established the famed Portsea Hotel, stating that sand loss caused by the resultant swells had never been experienced before to such an extent and suggested that an artificial reef should be built. Stephen Bradford, C.E.O. of the Melbourne Port Authority could have saved Portsea's sand if he'd followed this advice but kept on trotting out the same old mantra about the sand movement being natural and having nothing to do with the dredging.
I wonder too whether George Adams was ignored. Possibly not, because the plan of the residential development planned at Tullamarine in 1958 when the jetport at Tullamarine was proposed, shows PROPOSED HIGHWAY through "Gowanbrae" (formerly Camp Hill) and Viewpoint (now owned by Stoney and Palmer.) If I remember correctly the name of the pamphlet containing this and another plan of the area was called THE CASE AGAINST A JETPORT AT TULLAMARINE. It was published by Walter V.(Major) Murphy, president of the Tullamarine Progress Association,and no doubt financed by Stanley Korman whose development stretched from Forman Street Westmeadows south to the Albion-Jacana railway line. The pamphlet was among the material I donated to the Tullamarine Library and should now be at the Hume Global Learning Centre at Broadmeadows.
However the plans of Korman's development on "Gladstone", "Viewpoint" and "Gowanbrae" and other land purchased by him such as Ernie Campbell's land north of Dalkeith, Keith Campbell's Willowbank north of Broadmeadows Township and Strathconan purchased from R.Kay, (manager of Australia National Airways until Ansett bought it whose surname was originally Kowarzic) can be seen on pages 197 and 196, respectively of Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY.
The PROPOSED HIGHWAY follows the exact course of the Western Ring Road and there was no land reserved for the Tullamarine Freeway so it is possible that some politician or public servant had actually taken notice of George Adams' suggestion five years earlier. See George's letter WITH HIS PLAN OF THE RING ROAD ROUTE:
WHY NOT TRY RING ROAD?
The ironic thing is that I would never have found this article if I had not been looking for VIEWPOINT, BROADMEADOWS in relation to Bill Stoney who'd bought the northern half of "Viewpoint".
The photo was provided to me by Olive Nash, nee Simmons, daughter of Tullamarine's postmistress in the latter 1920's. Harry Nash's parents were probably wondering why he was so keen to check for mail at the post office so regularly. Unlike the photos that Olive provided for WHERE BIG BIRDS SOAR in 1989, which were photocopied, this photo, included in EARLY LANDOWNERS:PARISH OF TULLAMARINE (CIRCA 2000) was scanned.
OLIVE'S MARRIAGE RECORD.
EventMarriage Event registration number8699 Registration year1928
Family nameSIMMONS Given namesOlive Ricketts SexUnknown Spouse's family nameNASH Spouse's given namesHenry Alexander
Like Mary Nash, nee Gage, who married Charles Nash Snr. two years after he purchased the land on J.C.Riddell's Camieston Estate which became Fairview in 1852, Olive was doomed to a long widowhood. She was eventually forced to leave the farm by the noise and dust when the Bayview Quarry across Nash's lane opened. This quarry later became the Cleanaway Waste Treatment facility at Melway 5 D-F 5,6.
From my EARLY LANDOWNERS: PARISH OF TULLAMARINE.
Riddell called his land the Cameiston Estate. The land between Victoria and Wright Sts was called Block A and was purchased in 5 acre lots by Charles Nash (about 77 acres plus about 20 acres near the creek), George Goodwin (about 40 acres), James and John Anderson (27 acres) and Thomas Purvis (13 ½ acres). Charles Nash called his farm Fairview. On 29-4-1859, Nash sold about 20 acres east of his homestead and fronting Riddell St to fellow Wesleyan, Wallis Wright, who established Sunnyside.
Charles Nash called his farm Fairview and the family lived here for over a century until after Harry Nash’s death, when Harry’s widow, Olive, could no longer stand the dust caused by the nearby Bayview Quarry. Charles also established Bayview on section 3 and had a block near the Mansfields Rd corner for spelling dry cows. Descendants of Charles and Mary (nee Gage) occupied land on Sharps Rd and Fosters Rd as well. (See Doutta Galla volume.)
The Fairview homestead is labelled 40 in the photo attached to my journal about the field day at Tullamarine in 1935, which includes more detail about the Nash family. Wallis Wright's "Sunnyside" homestead is labelled 41.
PORTION OF THE MAP SHOWING ACQUISITIONS FOR TULLAMARINE AIRPORT CIRCA 1960, AND LOCATIONS OF NOW-CLOSED LANES.
I often refer to this map. When I left Tullamarine for Rosebud, along with several parish maps and documents such as the Tullamarine Methodist Church centenary souvenir of 1970 and the Tullamarine Progress Association proposal of 1926 to relocate the Newmarket Saleyards to Tullamarine, it was left in the custody of the Hume Global Learning Centre at Broadmeadows. When Dr. Arun Chandu was writing his thesis on the planning of the airport he was not able to access much of my material so I hope the library has now lifted its game.
The attached map is valuable in explaining the lanes frequently mentioned by me in relation to locations of properties in Tullamarine. At the bottom right hand corner of the map is the Tullamarine Reserve at the north corner of today's Melrose Drive and Derby St. Derby St, known to locals as the back lane was part of Riddell and Hamilton's Camieston Estate, which being east of Melrose Drive, was in the Shire of Broadmeadows. The other subdivisional streets in the Camieston Estate were Nash's Lane (Victoria Rd on the plan) and Wright's Lane (Riddell Rd on the plan.) West of Nash's Lane (the southern end of which now Mercers Drive on the airport side of the freeway)was a wedge-shaped block sold to William Love Senior and tapering from wide on Bulla Rd (the Paul Ellis block) to almost a point at Moonee Ponds Creek. Next was "Glendewar", established by William Dewar, whose Bulla Rd frontage extended to the middle of Melway 5B4.
Nash's Lane met Bulla Rd at a right angle. This 200 metre portion of Nash's Lane was the north west boundary of Hamilton Terrace (between Bulla Rd and Derby St)which was divided into one acre blocks (20m x 200 metre depth) except for a triangular block on the south side of the Derby St/Melrose Drive corner which was owned in latter pre-suburban days by Andy Craig. The acre blocks were consolidated by a small number of people such as Noah Holland. After his death, no rates were being paid on his six blocks on the other side of the Derby St corner and Alec Rasmussen, secretary of the Tullamarine Progress Association suggested the body should gain title through adverse possession by paying the rates on them. It did so, and presented what is now the Melrose Drive reserve to Broadmeadows Shire in 1929.
Derby St separated Hamilton Terrace blocks from farmlet blocks and Chandos of 467 acres purchased by John Peter. Chandos fronted Broadmeadows Rd (later Old Broadmeadows Rd and now Mickleham Rd)from just south of the Freight Rd corner to the Moonee Ponds Creek. Derby St formed its south west boundary and Wright St its west boundary to the creek. The land between Wrights Lane and Nashs Lane north of Derby St was divided into 31 blocks of roughly 10 acres each with many of these being consolidated as Charles Nash's Fairview and Wallis Wright's Sunnyside.
On the acquisitions map, Nash's Lane is the south east boundary of the PAUL ELLIS block. It then heads north to the Moonee Ponds Creek just to the right of the crease in the map.
The land on the southwest side of Bulla Rd. north to Grants Lane, became part of the Shire of Keilor. The border with Bulla Shire was Grants Lane while Nash's Lane separated Bulla and Broadmeadows Shires.
The three subdivision lanes heading west to give access to farmlets on the Keilor side of Bulla Rd were, from south to north, Post Office Lane, Anderson's Lane and Conders Lane. (POSTSCRIPT. The map reveals a fourth lane heading west to form the south boundary of Bill Ellis's Ecclesfield before turning south to become the east boundary of the other portion of the L shaped (rotated 90 degrees clockwise) property, number 22 on the map. My memory is fairly good but not at 5:30 in the morning when I wrote the paragraph at the end about Ecclesfield. It wasn't Farnes' Lane that had been mentioned by Keith McNab about 29 years ago but SPIERS' LANE. See end of journal.)
Post Office Lane was the boundary between section 3 Tullamarine and J.P.Fawkner's subdivision of the parts of section 6/7 on the Keilor side of Bulla Rd. It is now the northern boundary of the Trade park industrial estate, heading west from a point directly opposite the Melrose Drive/ Derby St corner.
Anderson's Lane was just south of opposite the Wright's Lane corner. The reason for the name can be seen by the land owned by the Andersons when purchased circa 1961.
Conders Lane was the south boundary of the Tullamarine State School 2613 site and Mrs Carter's block surrounding it. The 57 acre Parr property, The Elms,extended from Andersons Lane to Conders Lane.
Grants Lane was a Government road and ran west from Bulla Rd to McNabs Rd. The eastern portion from Ellis's Corner has been renamed Melrose Drive to prevent confusion to motorists. Bill Ellis was unrelated to the Greek Paul Ellis who'd married a Chambers girl of Glendewar.
Bill owned Ecclesfield at the south corner of Grants Rd and on the east side of a lane heading south. Bill Ellis also owned part of Gowrie Park (north of Grants Rd) which is now the operational area of the airport. Bill's daughters, Vivian Sutherland and Jean Schwartz remained in Tullamarine, living opposite the now-demolished Tullamarine Methodist Church (north corner of Trade Park Drive.)
THE FOURTH SUBDIVISIONAL LANE HEADING WEST FROM BULLA RD. MUST HAVE BEEN SPIERS' LANE.
From the first (1868) available Keilor ratebook in the strongroom at Keilor to which I was given access by the rates officer, Adrian Dodoro, since a long-time recruiting officer of the Essendon Football Club, there was a 101 acre property owned by James Spiers, Peter Spiers and then Bill Ellis, the only property in the Tullamarine Riding of that size. It was Keith McNab who mentioned Spiers Lane 29 years ago and because he retired early at night, I never got around to specifying its location, having forgotten to do so in a subsequent interview.
James Spiers was trampled to death in 1869 by a dray pulled by a team of horses he was leading along.
Peter Spiers committed suicide in 1911. (Countless sources.)
The 101 acre property was an L shaped (rotated 90 degrees clockwise) farm fronting the north (Grants Rd)and west boundaries of J.P.Fawkner's section 6 and 7 subdivision. It was lot 22 on the acquisitions map. The Grants Rd portion was bounded on the south by a lane heading west from Bulla Rd and the portion adjoining section 8 Tullamarine (McNab's Oakbank and Grant's Seafield)was bounded on the east by the same lane which turned south.
As this lane formed two boundaries of the Spiers/ Ellis farm, there is little doubt that it was SPIERS LANE.
Names of other north-south lanes on Fawkner's have never been discovered although Harry Heaps told me that Anderson's Lane turned north.