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MORNINGTON. (From Our Own Correspondent.) Mr Vale had his Mt. Martha paddocks burnt off last week. About 1000 acres of grass and undergrowth were burnt. Mr T. Male had the contract.(P.2, Mornington Standard, 22-3-1902.)
Mr Vale's property was "Dalkeith" on the north side of Bruce Rd at Mt Martha. He had leased it out to such as Alf Head of Fern Valley (straddling Stony Creek Rd at Red Hill)but it later became the property of his daughter and her husband.
Dalkeith adjoined The Briars at Range Rd at the top of Jacksons Hill.
The executors of the late Robert Watson have sold the two farms, Dalkeith Park, and St. James Park, Mt. Martha of 1280 acres to Mr W. Vale, Auctioneer, Melbourne. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 1-8-1901.)
(Watson Rd in Mt Martha is named after Robert Watson.)
Extract from my THE FEMALE DROVER.
Most people driving though Mornington probably do not even notice the sign pointing to the street named after one of the areas most influential people. He opposed a proposed site for the towns school because it was a swampy wasteland; today it is Alexandra Park! He was a member of Parliament and a prominent auctioneer. W.F.Vale and Co. auctioned the Stenniken grant on the west corner of Truemans Rd at Tootgarook at their rooms (412 Collins St) on 4-2-1920.
A member of this wealthy family bought much land north of the Sea Lane (Bruce Rd.) It was his daughter Phyllis and her husband, Herbert A. Jackson who lived on the property, thus giving the name of Jacksons Hill to the steep climb starting near the homestead. The northern boundary of their land was Range Rd. The south boundary was Ellerina Rd (Bruce Rd), the boundary between Moorooduc and Kangerong parishes, which was known in those days as the sea lane.
Phyllis and Shirley had a common love of horses and competed all over in horse shows, travelling as far afield as Lilydale. As well as show horses, Phyllis owned racehorses, one of which was Helion, 2nd in the 1954 Melbourne Cup; no shame in being beaten by the great Rising Fast! One of her workers, Sue Knight, was placed in the Garryowen in 1950 on one of Phyliss horses.
In the Garryowen during the Royal Melbourne Show in 1941, Mrs Herbert Jackson was mounted on Devon. Another to be involved with the Moorooduc area, Mrs Ken Moore of Clover Cottage, Berwick, won several events; Ken, involved in the Two Bays Nursery, owned Tuerong Park for a time. (Argus 6-9-1941.)
On March 2nd 1950, at St Andrews Hospital, East Melbourne, William Frederick Vale of Ardoyne, 54 Sutherland Rd, Armadale passed away. He was the devoted husband of the late Eliza Margaret and loved father of Fred (deceased 1st A.I.F.) and Phyllis (Mrs Herbert A.Jackson of Dalkeith, Mt Martha.) (Argus 3-3-1950.)
The Argus of 23-9-1954 had a long article, with photos, about Phyllis introducing the European system of training horses and riders at Dalkeith. This involved tutelage by a Hungarian expert and a narrow lane leading to jumps to prevent the horses from baulking. Bill Bull, who trained and rode for Phyllis, could not believe the improvements although he was a leading show rider. (On 28-1-1948, the engagement of Bill Bull, son of George, to Kath Rollason of Eaglemont was announced in the Argus.)
The History of Dalkeith appears on page 275 of the Shire of Morningtons Heritage Study. The Moumt Martha Run was occupied by Dallymore and then Aitken before James Hearn took it up. Hearn acquired the pre-emptive right as well as over 1100 acres between Hearn and Bay Rds and 850 acres to the west, north and east of the P.R. The last of these allotments, 29A, encompassed the Tubbarubba diggings.
Robert Watson purchased 3000 acres in 1876 (stated elsewhere in the study as 1871) and set up a homestead block near Lempriere Ave, building a house called Melrose. (I think this is a mistake; it was probably Melville.) He sold 1300 acres in 1888 but retained Melrose and pastoral holdings around Dalkeith, which he leased to such as Thomas Appleyard and Alfred Head. (Both men were grantees in the parish of Balnarring and Appleyard in Kangerong too.) William Vale, a Mornington farmer and Real Estate Agent bought Dalkeith in about 1901. (Heritage Study, Balnarring and Kangerong maps.)
Watson, after whom Watson Rd in Mt Martha was named, probably did not do much farming, as the study said that his main reason for settling in the area concerned his health. The Argus of 28-4-1881 carried the following advertisement:
GRAZING MT MARTHA ESTATE, NEAR MORNINGTON.
Tenders are called for the grazing on the following parts of the Mt Martha Estate, either together or separately and for one or a term of years:
Clarendon Park (321 acres; St James and Waverly Parks (510 acres with station and stockyards); Dalkeith Park (about 760 acres).
For conditions or to view, apply to the proprietor, Robert Watson, Melville House, Mornington.
As Moorooduc was consistently referred to as being in Mornington, it is unclear whether Watson was actually living in the township of Mornington. If he was living on his estate at Mt Martha, Graeme Butler may have been wrong calling his house there Melrose, unless the Argus got it wrong.
Alfred Head was on Dalkeith Park at about the time that Vale bought it, as reports of fat sheep sales in the Argus of 21-3-1900 and 5-8-1903 show. Alfred was the returning officer for elections in the Shire of Flinders and Kangerong. A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA P. 111.
The Aitken who leased the Mt Martha run was probably John Aitken after whom Mt Aitken on the Calder Highway west of Sunbury was named. He was the first to have sheep on the Mornington Peninsula; when the Chile ran aground off Arthurs Seat in March, 1836 with 1600 of his sheep aboard. After such a traumatic experience for his sheep, he probably rested them nearby, perhaps on Dalkeith, before undertaking the long trip to Melbourne. It is highly likely that Mr Aitken of Kenyer Park, Moorooduc, who had married Miss Dyer, was a descendant of John Aitken; they celebrated their Ruby Wedding Anniversary on 19-4-1945. A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA P.12,24. BULLA BULLA I.W. Symonds.
As mentioned earlier, this was known by pioneers as Whites Rd. Shirley told me that the land across Three Chain Rd from the Bourne farm (Melway 151 G9) was a rifle range and the most direct route there from the Balcombe army camp (151 C1) was along this road. The soldiers used to take a short cut through the Bourne farm to the rifle range.
Was William F.Vale the chap who wrote the letter in 1855 extolling the virtues of the parish of Moorooduc,that led to my journal about the TANTI HOTEL? This is debatable. It was more likely to have been:
Vale, William Mountford Kinsey (18331895). (See Australian Dictionary of Biography.)
W.M.K.Vale settled in Castlemaine with his brother,Richard,and their parents. William moved to Ballarat, as Richard also did later and they were both prominent in public life. Richard remained in Ballarat but William moved to Melbourne in 1872 and might have been the father of William F.Vale.
This is the letter.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Thursday 27 December 1855 p 7 Article
... of coming progress in a Bri- tish colony-that is, according to Chateau- briand, a public house, has ... c Mahen, Liardet and Carr. The Bay frontage of Mount Eliza forms the pr ... 1098 words
W.M.K.Vale was a bookseller which makes his knowledge of statements made by the French author, Chateaubriand, easy to understand. W.M.K.Vale was also the grantee of land in the Township of Mornington. Allotment 7 of 32 acres 3 roods and 8 perches was bounded by Vale St, Tanti Rd, Elizabeth St and Main St. Allotment 31 of 21 acres 3 roods and 37 perches was directly across Main St to the line of Bull St.
Lot 11 consisted of 10 acres 2roods and 24 perches and was in the present heart of Mornington. The boundaries of lot 11 were Main St, the line of Franklin St (not including the Ross St frontage), the Gordon/Murray St midline, and a mirror image of Empire St on the south.
The boundaries of the TOWN OF MORNINGTONseem to have been Canterbury St, Queen St-Ross St-Franklin St,and Cook St. The Town may have been originally called GRAVESEND.
THIS DAY.land, Land, Land, In the new township of Gravesend, Snapper Point,near Mount Eliza.
R BYRNE will sell by public auction, at his rooms, Bay street, Sandridge, on Friday, 24th inst, at twelve o'clock,203 quarter acre allotments in the new township of Gravesend.(P.3, Argus, 24-11-1854.)
W.M.K.Vale might also have bought land in the TOWN of Mornington at about the time he wrote the letter.The Moorooduc parish map does not give details of purchasers in the TOWN of Mornington or dates re grants in the larger TOWNSHIP.
P.S. Shirley Walter(nee Bourne) of Frankston was a female drover and inspired my THE FEMALE DROVER:A HISTORY OF MOOROODUC which started with her oral history and was completed courtesy of trove,David Shepherd, Murray Gomm, Leila Shaw,the Mornington Heritage Study, Joan Downward, THE BUTCHER, THE BAKER THE etc.
Section 10 of the parish of Tullamarine has been mentioned in my journal about J.P.Fawkner's land co-operatives in Melbourne's north west. It was the western part of the southern half of Tullamarine Island.
Tullamarine Island is generally held to be the land enclosed by Jacksons and Deep Creek, south of the Bulla _Diggers Rest Rd but Ed. Fanning of Sunnyside had a theory that the northern boundary was Emu Creek.Ed's family has been on the Island since the earliest days (see Kathleen Fanning's FANNING FAMILY website)and that would give his theory credibility but I will stick with the generally accepted northern boundary until I find proof in the form of a farm north of Sunnyside being described as being on Tullamarine Island.
When I was checking in my TULLAMARINE PARISH: EARLY LANDOWNERS(not a journal)to see whether William Bedford had the north or south half of lot 34 in Fawkner's break-up of Section 10, I was amazed at how much titles, occupancy and genealogical detail I had collected about the rest of Tullamarine Island.
As the maps showing farms cannot be included here and there is no hope of including all the surnames in this journal's surname list,I will list farm names and all surnames within this journal. The surnames list will only include surnames whose researchers are less likely to know of an association with Tullamarine Island.There is no need for me to list names such as Fanning and Bedford. Information given re section 10 Tullamarine can be found in the journal about Fawkner's Co-operatives mentioned previously and will not be repeated here unless it refers to connection with other farms or families. Farm names or surnames marked * were not on the Island but are connected in various ways.
If diggers researching surnames listed recall mention of Tullamarine Island or any of the farm names,send me a private message specifying the surname or farm name that is of interest, I will be happy to supply any information that is contained in my book.
I must thank Ed Fanning, Bob Blackwell, Henry Bedford, Judy Sloggett, and Alice Pryor (nee Wood)for supplementing my rates and titles research. Judy's genealogical information, centred on the Faithfulls, involved many of the members of Fawkner's Co-operatives or later owners of those blocks.
FANNING,BEDFORD, TATE, RANDALL,LOEMAN,JUNOR, GRANT, SKEWS/SKUSE, STEWART,PETER, DALY, CLARKE, CROSBIE, POWELL, McLEOD,GILBERTSON,FAITHFULL,HODGKINSON,MILDENHALL,SHARP, SMITH,BYRNE,MANSFIELD*, NICHOLLS, McARTHUR*, ROBB*, CROKER,WHITING,ANDERSON,THORNTON,HEAGNEY,RITCHIE, McCRAE (McRAE), McKENZIE, JOHNSON*,SHERRIT,HUNTER*, DOWNIE*, HALL*,O'BRIEN,BROADFOOT,CLARK*,KERNAN*, PAPWORTH,CLYMO,BASSETT,MASHFORD, DALE,GALLEA, EWART, MOORE*,PATULLO, SPEARY,FERRIER, REDDAN*.
SUNNYSIDE, GLENLOEMAN,CRAIGLLACHIE/DEEP VALLEY, OVERPOSTLE,FLEETBANK,STARR GROVE, EAST END FARM*,BULLA PARK,GLENARTHUR*, GLENDEWAR*, AUCHOLZIE*,GOWRIE PARK*, LOCHTON*, GLENARA*, COLDINGHAM LODGE*,HOLDEN VIEW.
Steve 74 sent me a query about the Chateau-briand Hotel with an accompanying article,which will form the basis of three other journals (William Vale and Mornington; Early Landholders in the parish of Moorooduc including J.P.Fawkner's Co-op.; and The Tanti Hotel established 1855.)
My reply was followed by another query.
Where is Mount McMahon?
I know McMahons Road Frankston is named after this Family. They Had land on McMahons Road Skye.
Apparently they owned the Long Beach Hotel (Carrum) and had 1000 acres of land in the Carrum Swamp, with son in law Keys (of Keysborough)
I cannot find any record of this Long Beach Run or the Hotel.
I will have to check the family tree on old man Mcmahon (Ithink he died in N.Z). His wife was Maria Kelly, Aunt to the Kelly family of Frankston & Harkaway
Hollinshed had mentioned the AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT OF MT McMAHON in LIME LAND LEISURE, and although I wondered how the name came about I had not yet been told about trove by the family historian and I was far too busy to be sidetracked.
I immediately entered McMahon,Kangerong on trove and up popped this article!
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Friday 12 May 1876 p 7 Article
... INQUESTS. Mr. Candler held an inquest on the 8th inst, at Dromana, on the body of Lawrence Wadeson, aged 62 years, a gardener at Kangerong, gerong, on Mount McMahon. On the even even- ing of Saturday, the 6th inst, at 7 o'clock, John Thomas Gibson, splitter and fencer at Balnarring, found ... 607 words
WHERE IS MT McMAHON?
Judging by the sources of creeks,because I do not have a clear mental image of the topography, I would say that Mt McMahon would be the area on Melway map 191 in A-K 1-4.
The article mentions Lawrence Wadeson and John Thomas Gibson. Lawrence Wadeson was the grantee,with John Holmes, of crown allotment 15B, Kangerong (Melway 191E2, F 2-3), the north boundary of which was the south boundary of the Kangerong Nature Conservation Reserve; its south east corner being the bend directly opposite 247 Red Hill Rd. If I remember correctly, John Thomas Gibson of BALNARRING!!!! would have lived directly across Red Hill Rd from Wadeson on 78A, Balnarring, (191 G 3-4)fronting Red Hill Rd to about No 251 and Stanleys Rd nearly to the Wildcroft Estate Winery.
(Red Hill Rd is the boundary between the parishes of Kangerong and Balnarring. William Gibson was the grantee of 78A Balnarring and after his death,the farm was split in two with J.T.Gibson getting a half.(I've written this somewhere,either PIONEER PATHWAY or RED HILL DICTIONARY HISTORY.)
The names in the surnames list are the members of John Pascoe Fawkner's co-operative which purchased land in the part of sections 6 and 7 on the south west side of Bulla Rd (now Melrose Drive)in the parish of Tullamarine.
Section 5 was "Stewarton" (renamed Gladstone in about 1892 after the Engllsh Prime Minister's cousin. Its south west corner was the present corner of Lackenheath Drive and Mickleham Rd (Melway 5 J11.) Its boundary with the Township of Broadmeadows was Forman St (5 K7.) The eastern boundary was the Moonee Ponds Creek.
By drawing a line between Forman St and the west end of Grants Rd, the northern boundary of section 6 and all but about 180 metres of section 7 can be seen. If you continue the line of Lackenheath Drive 16 centimetres to the west on your Melway,you will find the exact south west corner of section 7 (just 5mm on the map north of gate 22 on Operations Rd.) The boundary between sections 5 and 6 was Broadmeadows Rd (now Mickleham Rd.)
J.C.Riddell, after whom Riddell's Creek was named,purchased section 6 and as the south west corner was across the road (a triangle roughly enclosed by Link Rd, Trade Park and Melrose Drive, he sold it to Fawkner. In return, Fawkner sold to Riddell the north east corner of section 7, a triangle south of the Cleanaway waste facility mainly comprised of Melway 5 E7.
The Melway reference and lot number of each purchaser's block(s)will be given in the journal: JOHN PASCOE FAWKNER AND HIS CO-OPERATIVES.
In comments, garyboy alerted me to the issue in which George Scarlett's land was advertised for sale. The location of the land and lot numbers are given in my comment following his. The map showing subdivision lots has been sent to garyboy and is available to descendants of the other pioneers named in the surname list.The digitisation needed correction,which I have done, so that garyboy can copy and paste from here (there are still a few errors on trove.) The Lady of the Lake hotel was built on section 3 by David William O'Niall,subject of one of my journals, on land leased from William Foster by about 1847 and was a well-known landmark.It was just south of the Derby St corner and adjoined Broombank (Millar Rd area), leased by my great grandfather, John Cock, from 1867 until 1882. The 10 acre lot adjoined lots 31 and 32 and the reason it needed to be fenced separately is that a lane ran between it and the double block. (See my comment under garyboy's.)
MONDAY, 4th SEPTEMBER.
By Order of the Executors of the late Mr. George Scarlett.
Farms on the Deep Creek Road, Ten Miles from Melbourne.
A BLISS and CO. have received Instructions from the executors of the late Mr. George Scarlett to submit to public auction, at the Lady of the Lake, on the Deep Creek road, on Monday, 4th September, at two o'clock,
20 acres of beautiful agricultural land, having erected there a very substantially built four-roomed wooden
house, panelled doors, spouted, with a tank capable of holding water for the year; all fenced in, clear
and ready for the plough.
Also, 10 acres of splendid land adjoining, partially fenced in. To be sold in one lot or separately.
This being the property of a trust estate it must be sold without reserve, for the benefit of those interested
under the will.
Terms-Half cash, the remainder to remain (at the option of the purchaser) for two years at 8 per cent, on mortgage. 101. (Item 8,column 2,page 7, Argus, 26-8-1854.)
And as always when I help a family historian,I receive as much information as I give.
Thanks xxx for your well researched information relating to the location and sale of George Scarlett's land holdings in 1856. Interesting about the nearby Lady of the Lake Hotel and a very good chance George and sons patronized the establishment at some time. Interesting that George sought to acquire a rural acreage as after arriving in Melbourne in March 1841 with his wife and six children he established a jewelry business in Collins street however sales could not have been as brisk as expected and by 1843 he appeared on the Port Phillip Insolvency list. I'm uncertain as to when he applied for and was granted his land at Tullamarine but I know he was living there in early 1854 as his grandson also named George was born there in February of that year. I discovered this fact quite recently when I viewed a copy of George's 1878 (Ballarat) wedding certificate. Young George'e father James who was also residing at the Tullarmarine farm listed his occupation as gardener. Perhaps James and his other two brothers were farming the block however on the 14th June 1854 George (snr) passed away at the Watermans Arms Hotel in Little Collins street of a stroke, aged 52. I was never aware until a few months back whilst conducting a family history that the second son James Scarlett married an Irish Famine orphan girl, Lilly Ann Barber (Barbour) in 1853. They died in 1901 and 1903 and are buried in the Ballarat Cemetery. Lilly Ann was my grandfathers grandmother but I never heard him ever mention his Irish ancestry, Also my father who lived to 95 never mentioned Lilly Barber, George's Bankruptcy or of him dying in the Waterman's Arms. Possibly they never knew or it was things best forgotten. Thanks to Google it's not. Getting back to the Tullarmarine block.... I notice that a large portion of the 20 acres is outside the Airport restricted area so hopefully there isn't a problem with access as much of the area appears to unfenced open grassland. Aspirations to locate the site of the original dwelling which presumably would be on the northern section adjoining Andersons? lane. We'll see how I go and will keep you posted if I'm fortunate enough to stumble upon any relics of the era.. Apologies for straying into my ancestors closet but without your diligent and painstaking research I would have been facing an arduous task researching the Tullamarine connection. Kind Regards, Gary.
To save me sending a further email to Gary,having already told him about the 1858 advertisements, the partly fenced 10 acre block must have sold in 1854 but not lots 31 and 32. There is no doubt that Gary will be able to make a close inspection of the East Collingwood corner block (if he can find out which corner.) The Park/Stafford St intersection is at Melway 2C J8.The house block at Tullamarine (36 x 26 feet, about 10 x 8 metres) occupied only a small part of the 20 acres (140 x 280 metres) so the majority of the land was used for farming.
As stated earlier,each 10 acre block (on map 5 in my 1999 Melway) measures roughly 7 millimetres (frontage) by 14 millimetres (depth), the boundary dimensions having been roughly 700 links X 1400 links (140 metres X 280 metres.) As it would have been ridiculous to try to measure fractions of amillimetreI had to divide up the space filled with 10 acre blocks so that the space was filled and all blocks had the same dimensions (as demonstrated by title documents.) Using the dimensions of 700 X 1400 links,the product is 9.8 acres,fairly close to 10 acres.Gary will find that the total frontage of lots 31 and 32 on the map that I sent him is actually 14.5 millimetres so that the width of each 10 acre block is 7.25 millimetres (obtained by dividing the total space as described above.) As you can see,the Maths I learnt at school was not entirely useless and any subdivision maps I have produced were done with such care that I have actually found mistakes in parish maps as a result,such as the spot where Arundel Creek flows into the Maribyrnong River in Foote's Doutta Galla map.
To Speculators,Persons Seeking Investments, and Others
Unreserved Sale of Valuable Freehold Property.
By Order of tho Executor and Trustee of the late George Scarlett
SYMONS and PERRY have received instructions from the executor and trustee of the late George Scarlett to SELL by AUCTION, at their new rooms, Collins-street, on Monday, 8th inst, at 12 o'clock,
2O acres, a little more or less, part of section 7, parish of Tullamarine, county of Bourke, 10 miles from
Melbourne, on the Deep Creek-road, and near the Beech Tree Hotel, on which is erected a good substantial weatherboard house standing on a frontage of 36 feet, by a depth of 26 feet. There is also a splendid
tank, well built of stone, with a good supply of water. The land is all fenced in.
All that piece or parcel of land situate in East Collingwood, having a frontage of 108 feet 6? inches to
Park street, by a depth along Stafford street of 75 feet. The above is a splendid corner allotment, and is
worthy the attention of persons seeking investments.
Terms liberal, declared at sale.
The auctioneers wish to call the attention of capitalists and speculators to the above really choice pro-
perties as being of sterling quality, and are to be sold to the highest bidder. 1970
(P.2,Argus, 8-2-1858,near bottom of column 2.)
The above is,I think,the earliest reference to the Beech Tree Hotel that I have seen. The earliest reference to it in the Cole Collection of Hotel records was a ball held there in 1864. It is possible that the Lady of the Lake Hotel had been burnt down by this time and the Junction Hotel did not exist for some time, giving John Beech an opportunity to establish his hotel without competition. The Travellers' Rest near the site of Airport West Shoppingtown probably hadn't been built and the Inverness at Oaklands Junction was far enough away.
As shown in advertisements for the Beech Tree,it also had a huge underground tank.It is likely that it was lined with stone as George Scarlett's was.
The names in the surnames list are the members of John Pascoe Fawkner's co-operative which purchased land in section 13 of the parish of Tullamarine, north and south of Mansfields Rd, Tullamarine (Melway 4 A1 and 4 to G3-5).
The Melway reference and lot number of each purchaser's block(s)will be given in the journal: JOHN PASCOE FAWKNER AND HIS CO-OPERATIVES.