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After ten attempts to post a comment on the DICTIONARY HISTORY OF BULLA journal (second prize essay on the history of Bulla),itellya has retired. The essay has been posted on Ray Gibb's Facebook page. It is quoted almost verbatim in I.W.Symonds' BULLA BULLA.

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Is it worth $40 million dollars (perhaps half as much again)to change the heart of a community? The Rosebud Fishing Village was Rosebud, the jetty being built roughly in the middle of it. The school was the first public building on the inland side of the beach road and of course,it was built in the HEART OF ROSEBUD. Today,Rosebud has two hearts,the second being Rosebud Plaza on the old Hindhope Estate.

On 16-5-1856, R.Glover and J.Wallace were granted crown allotment 17, parish of Wannaeue, consisting of 129 acres 2 roods and 28 perches. This was bounded by the beach road,Jetty Rd, Eastbourne and the line of Norm Clark walk (just east of Ninth Avenue.)

Parish of Wannaeue, Arthur's Seat. 129 Acres.
Four-roomed Cottage, Men's Huts, fronting Hobson's Bay, and within Thirty Miles from Melbourne by Water, and Forty-five Miles by Road.
H.A. COFFEY, for F. E. Beaver and Co., is instructed to sell by auction, at their rooms, 30 Collins-street west, on Tuesday, 10th inst., at eleven o'clock, 129 acres superior agricultural land, having a large
frontage to Hobson's Bay, and described in the Government plan as having water at a short distance from the surface ; together with a neat cottage containing four rooms and a garden ; fruit trees, fenced in. From the great rise in tho value of property in this locality, tho healthful air and the beautiful scenery, there can be no doubt but that this opportunity offers a fair chance for profitable investment to the small capitalist, or would be admirably adapted for a marine residence. The water is sufficiently deep in shore to admit the landing of provisions and goods close to the frontage. Terms Liberal.(P.2,Argus,5-3-1857.)

Near Arthur's Seat, and Close to the Village of Dromana. Fronting the Bay.
ALFRED BLISS has received instructions from the proprietor to SELL by PUBLIC AUCTION, at his rooms, 37 Queen-street, on Monday,May 2, at one o'clock,
Section No. 17, parish of Wannaene, containing 129 acres 2 roods 28 perches, bounded on three sides by
Government roads. For the convenience of intending purchasers the above property has been cut up into 5 and 10 acre allotments. (P.2,Argus, 20-4-1859.)

On 3-9-1864,R.Glover was assessed on 129 acres,unencumbered,with a nett annual value of 16 pounds 10 shillings. By the Kangerong Road Board assessment of 2-9-1865, Richard Robert Woolcott had become the owner. Assessment No. 103 gives his name as Woolcott and he paid rates on 129 acres, Wannaeue, with a nett annual value of 6 ponds 10 shillings. By 3-9-1870 the nett annual value had risen to 10 pounds and, although the rate collector gave his Christian names,his surname was written as Woollcote. In the 15-9-1876 assessment he seems not to have been assessed but he might have been assessed under O in the alphabetical listings. Where the occupant was not clear a property was assessed against "Owner" and if the owner's name was entered if it was discovered.

In the 14-9-1879 assessment the N.A.V.was 12 pounds and remained so on 24-7-1879 although -.Woolcote now owned only 112 acres; 17 or 18 acres had been sold. If they were all 2 acres like the block that George and Susan Peatey bought in 1878,that would mean that nine blocks had been sold. By 16-7-1888 Woolcote (written only in the OWNER column)was assessed on 20 allotments,Wannaeue with a nett annual value of only 8 pounds. The next year it was written VERY FAINTLY as 40 acres and the N.A.V. was 40 pounds. Perhaps the council had decided that all building blocks must have a N.A.V. OF 2 pounds,a value that persisted well into the 1920's for vacant blocks. A modest dwelling would raise this to, or by, 5 pounds.

By 1900, many purchasers seem to have forfeited their blocks to the Commercial Bank which was assessed on 84 acres in crown allotment 17. Those definitely assessed on land in THE HEART OF ROSEBUD (c/a 17) were:
George Henry Chapman (Dromana blacksmith) 4 lots, Charles James 3 acres, Marshall (Moonee Ponds real estate agent) 7 acres, Mrs Peatey 2 acres and house lot 76, John Roberts (the postmaster) 4 lots and house, Formbisher 2.5 acres lots 74 and 85. A few more may have had land on c/a 17 but as descriptions were so vague it is impossible to be sure.

In 1919, Henry Bucher of Brighton owned lots lots 73 and 78 (and perhaps lots 7-10);Mrs Mary Butler,c/o Mrs McDowell, a building on lot 49; Mrs Annie Eliza Cairns of "Fernvilla" (top of Cairn Rd) Rosebud, had lots 1,2,29 and 30; Mrs Elizabeth Cairns of Rosebud had lots 43-6; "Rosebud Ted" Cairns had lots 74 and 85; the Dromana blacksmith still had lots 19 and 20; A.C.Allingham*, the teacher who replaced Charles Perrin* was occupying "quarters,state school",the bill sent to the Education Department; John Fallon of Windsor had lot 80; (former?) Rye teacher Henry Horneman had lots 62,81 and 82;Mrs Hownslow had lot 23; Mrs Helen Salina Mitchell (probably from the present Woodlands Historic Park near Melbourne Airport)had lots 13-18 and buildings; Joseph Maconochie of Richmond lots 37-41 and buildings and his wife store and lot 42 occupied by P.Ditchburn*; Robert McDowell of Rosebud had lots 77 and 79 and part of lot 75 and a building; Alf and John Peatey,sons of George and Sarah the 2 acre lot 76 on the south corner of Jetty Rd and McDowell St bought in 1878 but minus the house which burnt down in 1912; Ernie Rudduck of Dromana, still alive thanks to Melbourne Brindle,William John Ferrier etc, land and store occupied by L.C.Leech; Mrs(sic) Mary B.Stone (see the Polly Vine chapter in Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD)LOTS 25,26,28; and Mrs Charlotte Walker of Benalla (possibly Robert McDowell's sister in law) part lot 75.

Crown allotment 18, between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd had been subdivided before c/a 17 but only one block was sold,lot 86 of two acres on its north west corner. Robert White (Blooming Bob White bought c/a 17 in 1875 and was unaware that Charles Blackey had sold lot 86 to Jack Jones. When Bob sold the property to the (Leak/Lake brothers circa 1890)the new owners assumed that they had bought the whole 152 acres and took Jones to court to have him kicked off. Jones, who had conducted a store on his fishing village block, proved that he owned the block and built Rosebud's first proper shop on the corner. The buyer in 1913 was probably Mrs Mitchell who conducted what Isobel Moresby and Rosalind Peatey remembered fondly as a lolly shop.

W.A. KORNER WILL SELL BY PUBLIC AUCTION on the above date, on the ground,
1.All deceased's right, title, and interest in that piece of land being part of Crown portion l8, parish of Wannaeue, having frontage to Government road of 57ft. by a depth of 329ft, more or less, together with store and other improvements thereon.
2. All that piece of land, being part of Crown portion 18, parish of Wannaeue, having frontage of 60ft. by a depth of 330, more or less.Terms at Sale.W. A. Korner, auctioneer. Mornington.
(P.4, Argus,6-12-1913.)

Although 150 acres of c/a 18 was a farm for nearly 40 years after R.R.Woolcott subdivided the heart of Rosebud (c/a 17)until suicide man, De Garis,launched his so-called HEART OF ROSEBUD ESTATE,lot 86 and Jack Jones' store certainly deserved to be included in the true heart of Rosebud.(See the chapter HENRY POTTON'S FARM in Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD.)

To Parties Looking for an Unrivalled Site for a Marine Residence or Farm.
C.J. and T. HAM have received Instructions from Mr. J. T. M'Kean, agent for owner, to SELL by PUBLIC AUCTION, at their rooms, on Thursday, 13th January next, at twelve o'clock, All that piece of land being Lot 17 in parish of Wannaeue, near to village reserve of Dromana, containing 130 acres, well and permanently watered by springs, and having large bay frontage. (P.2, Argus,7-1-1876.)

By 1879, -.Woolcote (sic) was assessed on an unknown number of acres with a nett annual value of 12 pounds.

That picturesque neighbourhood a little to the south west of Dromana, on the main road to Sorrento. The remaining unsold lots in the estate of R. R. Woolcott, Esq., being part of portion 17, parish of Wannaeue, each lot having an area of 1.5 acres and upwards. A new jetty, state school and other improvements have recently been added to the attractions of this place, which must ultimately become one of the most popular of our suburban watering-places.Solicitor, J. S. Woolcott, Esq., Chancery lane And SANDRINGHAM.
(P.2, Argus, 1-2-1888.)

Can the Clacton-on-Sea Estate ever become the heart of Rosebud? This estate was between Norm Clark Walk and First Avenue. There is much detail in LIME LAND LEISURE about the failure of the estate and how the shire and social agencies developed the forfeited land nearer Eastbourne Rd as a residential area for the elderly.

The Shire of Flinders through its Auctioneers Mr G. G .Austin of Frankston and Mr. S. L. Butler of Mornington as auctioneers in conjunction will sell by auction the following properties on Wednesday the 10th day of October 1951 at 10 a. m. in the Mechanics Hall, Rosebud under the provisions of the Local Government Acts
(Municipal Rates Recovery)
ALL THOSE pieces of land being Lots on Plan of Subdivision Number 6108 lodged in the Office of Titles (and which lots are more particularly set out hereunder)being part of Crown Allotments 15 and 16 at Rosebud, Parish of Wannaeue, County of Mornington.

N.B.Unless otherwise specified,all lot sizes are frontage 53 links and depth 181.8 links. A link is a hundredth of a chain (which close enough to 20 metres long) so each link equals 20 centimetres. Therefore the frontage is
53x20 cm or 10.60 metres and the depth is 36.36 metres. In (k)the depth is 219 links or 43.8 metres.

(a) Lots 46 48 54 56 58 and 62 Block A each lot having a frontage to Second Avenue.
(b) Lots 55 57 61 63 Block B each lot having a frontage to Second Avenue.
(c) Lots 50 52 54 60 62 and 72 Block B each lot having a frontage to Third Avenue.
(d) Lots 55 59 and 63 Block C each lot having a frontage to Third Avenue.
(e) Lots 56 58 60 64 66 72 and 74 Block C each lot having a frontage to Fourth Avenue.
(f) Lots 61 65 67 69 79 81 and 83 Block D each lot having a frontage to Fourth Avenue.
(g) Lots 72 84 86 and 88 Block E, each lot having a frontage to Sixth Avenue.
(h) Lots 63 69 71 73 75 93 and 95 Block F each lot having a frontage to Sixth Avenue.
(i) lots 66 68 84 94 and 96 Block F each lot having a frontage to Seventh Avenue.
(j) Lots 55 57 63 71 73 79 83 91 93 05 97 and 101 Block G each lot having a frontage to Seventh Avenue.
(k) Lots 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 and 13 Block 12 each lot having a frontage of 53 links to Ninth Avenue by a depth of 219 links* approximately. (*Presumably the east side.All the avenues seem to be 4.5 chains apart but Ninth and Rosebud Pde are 5 chains apart, an extra 10 metres.)
(l) Lots 12 16 l8 20 24 and 30 Block I. each lot having a frontage to Ninth Avenue.
(m) Lots 3 5 9 23 25 27 Block I. each lot having a frontage to Eighth Avenue.
(n) Lots l8 20 24 26 and 30 Block J each lot having a frontage to Eighth Avenue.
(0) Lots 1 3 5 7 13 15 25 27 Block J each lot having a frontage of 53 links to Seventh Avenue.
(p) Lots 2 4 14 16 l8 20 22 24 26 28 and 30 Block K each lot having a frontage to Seventh Avenue.
(q) Lots 1 9 11 15 19 and 21 Block K, each lot having a frontage to Sixth Avenue.
(r) Lots 8 10 12 14 16 l8 22 24 28 and 30 Block L each lot having a frontage to Sixth Avenue.
(s) Lots 9 13 17 25 and 27 Block L each lot having a frontage to Fifth Avenue.
(t) Lots 2 4 12 14 18 20 22 24 26 28 and 30 Block M each lot having a frontage to Fifth Avenue.
(U) Lots 1 3 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 and 20 Block M each lot having a frontage to Fourth Avenue.
(V) Lots 2 4 14 l8 20 22 24 26 and 30 Block N each lot having a frontage to Fourth Avenue.
(X) Lots 2 8 12 20 22 24 26 28 and 30 Block O each lot having a frontage to Third Avenue.
(y) Lots 1 3 7 10 21 23 27 and 29 Block O each lot having a frontage to Second Avenue.
(z) Lots 5 13 17 and 19 Block F, each lot having a frontage to First Avenue.
TERMS AT SALE etc. (P.24, Argus,6-10-1951.)

Not only the Clacton-on-Sea blocks were forfeited. The depressions of the 1890's and 1930's resulted in widespread unemployment and many purchasers were flat out putting food on the table. Paying rates on a holiday block would have been the lowest priority. But councils still needed to cope with road maintenance and drainage issues and were almost broke. There was a sell-off in 1946 as well, and it was suggested that returned servicemen should be given priority as purchasers. Here were the forfeited blocks near the end of the 1930's depression. 17= the heart of Rosebud (Rosebud Estate); 15 and 16= Clacton-on-Sea.

At Three O Clock At Mechanics Hall Dromana
LOT 5.-Thirty Lots Each Having a Frontage of 53 Links by a Depth of 181.8 Links and Being Lots on Plan of Subdivision No 5108 Lodged in the Office of Titles and Being Part of Crown Portions 15 and 16 at Rosebud, Parish of Wannaeue, County of Mornington.
(a) Fronting First Avenue Lots 45 47 103 Block P
(b) Fronting Third Avenue Lot 48 Block B
(c) Fronting Fifth Avenue Lot 07 Block F Lot 21 Block L Lot 16 Block M
(d) Fronting Sixth Avenue Lots 47 49 77 Block K Lot 32 Block E Lot 42 Block L
(e) Fronting Seventh Avenue Lot 50 Block F Lot 81 Block G Lot 11 Block J Lot 78 Block K
(f) Fronting Eighth Avenue Lots 70 100 102 Block G Lot 73 Block H Lots 95 07 Block I Lots 12 10 28 42 Block J
(g) Fronting Ninth Avenue Lots 04 100
LOT 6.-Lot 114 on Plan of Subdivision No. 5108 Lodged In the Office of Titles Being Part of Crown Portion 16 at Rosebud Parish and County Aforesaid frontage of 53 Links to Government Road by Depth of 277.9 Links.

LOT 7.-24 lots, Each Having a Frontage of 50 Feet by Varying Depths and Being Lots on Plan of Subdivision No. 5134 Lodged In the Office of Titles and Being Part of Crown Portion 17 at Rosebud Parish of Wannaeue County of Mornington
(a) Lots 6 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 l8 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 Block H Fronting Spray Street
(b) Lots 27 28 Block G Fronting Spray Street
(c) Lot 35 Block B Fronting Foam Street
(d) Lot 36 Block B Fronting Government Road
LOT 8-Lots 28 29 30 Block H on Plan of Subdivision No 5134 as Aforesaid Each Lot Having a Frontage of 22 Feet 6 Inches to a Government Road by a Depth of 150 Feet. (P.14, Argus, 10-2-1938.)


This journal was prompted by Bezza sending me the information in italics. Mr Fenwick was probably managing the farm for Helen Melville. Thomas Steuart Gladstone was cousin of the prime minister. Stewarton and a farm of the same name in the Western District were probably named after Gladstone's partner. Stewarton was renamed Gladstone in the second year of John Cock's lease.

The will of the late Mr Thomas Gladstone has been proved. The personalty in the estate amounts to £25=,000.Kilmore Press 23 May 1889 p3. This is Thomas Steuart Gladstone. There was also a Sir Thomas Gladstone that died in 1889.

Fenwick seem to have Gladstone park in 1917 when it was sold.
Essendon Gazette 22 Feb 1917
Gladstone Park Sale. Campbell and Sons and McCulloch Hancock will sell, on Wednesday,. Inst., at 1 p.m., at Gladstone Park, Broadmeadows. under instructions from A. G. and C E. Melville. the whole of pedigreed and farm mares, dairy breeding sows, sheep, machinery, farm implements and sundries. Particularly given in our advertising columns, and other details may be had from the auctioneers or from Mr. A. Fenwick. Gladstone Park, Broadmeadows.

Essendon Gazette 14 Sep 1916 p2
Clearing Sale at Broadmeadows. .Last Tuesday week, 5th September, a very successful clearing sale was held at Gladstone Park, Broadmeadows, by McPhail, Anderson and Co., in conjunction with McCulloch and Hancock. The proprietors having decided to relinquish dairying and to go in solely for sheep and cropping, instructed the above agents to hold a clearing sale of all the dairy stock, plant, etc. A large number of buyers attended and a good sale resulted. Cows. in milk some time, made to £11 10s; springers, to £14; 21-year-old heifers, in lines, £6 12s 6d;: 18 months to 2-year-olds, £4 12s Gd; 9 to 12 months olds, £3 2s 6d; bull,.to £10 2s 6d. The plant. etc.. also sold at good values.

Essendon Gazette 8 August 1918 p3
MR. A. E. HOADLEY Has secured the Imported Welsh Cob, GWALIA CAESAR Who will stand the Season at GLADSTONE PARK, BROADMEADOWS. Terms on Application.

Section 5 in the parish of Tullamarine fronted the east side of today's Mickleham Rd from the Lackenheath Drive corner to Forman St where it adjoined Broadmeadows Township.The first bridge in the township joined the two parts of Ardlie St.

Today's suburb of Gladstone Park is separated from the rest of SECTION 5'S 777 acres (subdivided as the Gladstone Gardens Estate) by the freeway. It also includes most of "Viewpoint" which ran south to the junction. Marigold Crescent in Gowanbrae is also part of Viewpoint. About half of Camp Hill/ Gowanbrae is in Gladstone Park while the portion south east of the Ring Road carries the farm's second name.

George Russell of Golf Hill in the Western District who bought Section 5 Tullamarine is shown on the Parish map as the grantee. He bought it for Niel Black of Mt Noorat near Colac who arrived in 1839 as the representative of Niel Black & Co. The partners in this firm were A.Stewart,Thomas Steuart Gladstone, Alex Struthers Finlay and Niel Black. Section 5, Tullamarine was probably intended as a holding paddock or depot to rest sheep hoofing it to market in Melbourne and was owned by Neil Black until his death in 1880 and in 1881-2 by his estate.

In 1882-3 Gladstone became the owner and from 1888-1892, land speculator, G.W.Taylor, was recorded in rate books as the owner;he'd anticipated a killing because of the proposed railway to Bulla with a possible branch to Broadmeadows Township. Taylor fled the country leaving massive debts and the Gladstones regained title as well as pocketing the deposit and part payments.Andrew Lemon said the Gladstones owned the 777 acre farm "until the 1920's" but the rate collectors thought otherwise;the next owner was Frederick Newman Levin, from 1949 till 1952 when he sold to Stanley Korman.

Lessees were Peter McCracken 1846-1855 (McCracken Papers), J.Maconochie , 1863-4, Edmund Dunn of "Viewpoint",the next property south 1865-1873, John Taylor 1873-5, John Kerr of Kerrsland 1875-1892 (Kerr and sons 1881-2), John Cock my great grandfather 1892-1912, HELEN MELVILLE 1912-1917, A.E.Hoadley 1917-1920, L.Roxburgh 1920-1930, Jim Barrow 1930-1949. Owner/Occupiers from then were Levin 1949-52, Stanley Korman 1952-1964, Costain Development Pty. Ltd (Broadmeadows: A Forgotten History.) The last occupant of the second Gladstone Park Homestead (site known) was Ian Farrugia who was also the last occupant of the remaining house on THE LAST OF THE BROADY FARMS (Camp Hill/ Gowanbrae), the second farm south.


ZICHY-WOINARSKI seemed out of place. There were plenty of Cape Verde Islanders, Chinese and Maoris involved in the early history of the Southern Peninsula but no New Aussies with a name like Zichy-Woinarski. Then I saw the name mentioned in trove articles about Mornington and in a heritage study, HO239, regarding Woyna House in Rosebud West. After about two years,I finally twigged that there might be a connection between the names WOYNA and WOINARSKI. Little did I suspect that both names were connected with Polish nobility,that the Zichy part of the name has been traced back to Hungary in the 13th century or that the official Language of Hungary until 1848 was Latin (a world record!) The Zichy genealogy does not include the origin of the ZICHY-WOINARSKI name but the Table Talk article does. I have included the Zichy-Woinarski genealogy down to George Alexander,the owner of the Woyna farm at Rosebud West.

Realising Auction of a Peninsula Farm,
By order of G. A. Woinarski, Esq. We will Sell as above, Woyna Farm, 32o Acres,
SITUATED on main Melbourne-Sorrento road, 2 miles from Rye and Rosebud and 5 miles from Dromana, comprising about 140 acres of flat and 180 acres of undulating country.
THE FLATS are peat land of a rich alluvial character, with an abundance of lime, as rich and fertile as Carrum or Koo-wee-rup. The light land also has lime in it and is suitable for Hay, Rape, or Melilotus. THE HOMESTEAD comprises an 8roomed Villa, with Lawn and Garden, windmill, Water laid on, Bathing Box, Motor Garage with brick floor.
IMPORTANT.-Failing a Sale as a whole, the property will be offered in two lots.
Lot 1.--Homestead & about 166acres. Lot 2.-154 acres, 80 flats. Both with frontage to main road (etc.) (P.2, Mornington Standard, 27-5-1916.)

Dr. V. J. Woinarski Passes
Dr V. J. E. Zichy Woinarski died suddenly on Friday last, at his home in Mornington, as a result of a heart seizure which overcame him while he was returning from a sick call. Dr Woinarski, who was a brother to Judge Woinarski, gained his medical degree at Melbourne University after receiving his education at Melbourne Grammar School, and prior to the war he practiced for several years at North Melbourne. He served in the war as a captain in the Army Medical Corps, and on returning to Australia he conducted his practice at Mornington. He was 56 years of age, and he has left a widow, two sons and a daughter.
(P.3, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 3-6-1921.)

A COLONIST who well illustrates what was said some time ago in those columns as regards the importance of the foreign element in the foundation, progress and prosperity of Australia, passed away last Friday, January 30, Mr. George Gustave Zichy-Winarsrski was a Pole of high family, and came to Victoria soon after the gold discoveries. He was born at Teschen, Silisia, in 1824. His father, Count Zichy, had married the Countess Woinarski, of Woyna, and the second son of this marriage, the subject of this notice, took by agreement the conjoint name of Zichy- Woinarski. In the local gymnasium he was noted for his great abilities and he studied law with such success that, at the ago of 21 years he had reached the status of Magistrate, and proceeded then to the University of Lemberg. Fired with the universal desire for freedom which permeated Europe when ho was a young man, ho joined the PolishLegion which went to the relief of Hungary in her struggle with Austria in 1818, and became one of the commanding officers of that Legion, and at one time aide de camp to His Excellency, General Prince Woinarski. (etc.) (P.1, Table Talk, 6-2-1891.)

4. ZICHY genealogy 04.01 Overview All Zichy-s are one ...

The Zichy - Woinarski line table I
The point of the exact linkage of the Zichy-Woinarski line to the main Zichy trunk is yet to be found. Therefore the numbering of the Zichy-Woinarskis is provisional.
ZW-0 X.Y. the father of only son János below (possibly from the Zichy-Palota line), who emigrated from Hungary to Teschen (Silesia), probably in the 18th

ZW- 1 JÁNOS ( - ), x. 1st countess (?) Jane Susan Woynarski de Woyna
x. 2nd
[1:] ZW-11 JOHANN (-)

ZW-111 JOSEPH (CICHY) (-) x. Ella
ZW-1111 HANS (.)
ZW-1112 MAX (.)
ZW-1114 KURT (.)
ZW-112 PAUL (CICHY) (-) x.

ZW-12 PAUL (-)
ZW-13 GEORGE-GUSTAVE (Cieszyn/Teschen, 1825.01.23 Melbourne 1891.01.30), x. , 1856.06.28. Henriette Zukerman (1836.01.19 1906.02.27)
ZW-131 STANISLAUS Emil (Ballaarat, 1857.04.25 Wood Points 1920.04.05), x.Mortlake 1883.07.26, Flora Dundas Robertson (1860.11.30.-
Kew 1890)
ZW-1311 ALEXANDRINA (Ballaarat 1884.10.20-Eastwood 1965.03.27)
x.Mornington 1912.12.18 Henry Dundas Macartney (Waverley 1880.02.01-Toowong 1932.10.24)
ZW-1312 VALERIE Henrietta (Ballaarat 1886.06.24.-Kew 1959.09.21)
ZW-1313 ANIELLA (Ballaarat 1888.02-07-Southport 1968.08.18) x.Mornington, 1913.02.11., Arthur Youl Nankivell (Melbourne
1883.11.28.-Kerang 1936.10.21)
51 ZW-1314 GEORGE Alexander (1890.07.10.-1957.08.09)
x.1911. .... Héléne Turnball (1891-1943) (i)
x.1944 ......Joan Finney (...-1993) (ii)


The Dryden family pioneered the area near Hanging Rock before Tom Wills thought of the game that became known as Aussie Rules. When surveys had been completed, leases on squatting runs were cancelled, and as with most pioneering families, the next generation sought opportunities elsewhere.

Bill Dryden had been a champion footballer with the Kyneton Football Club. Unfortunately Rosalind Peatey did not explain how Bill came to meet Mary Peatey. Mary, born in 1890 in Gippsland, was the eldest daughter of Jack and Mary Peatey, who returned to Rosebud in 1894 and established their produce business on "Beachside" on the east side of Peatey's Creek.

When Bill was killed, the elder of his boys, Jim and Bill, was six years old so it can be assumed that they had married by 1926,
three years before the Rosebud Football Club played its first season.

Whatever job Bill had worked at probably disappeared soon after the 1930's depression started and he was probably offered a job at the Seaford sandpits if he played for Seaford. Another inducement may have been that his brother, E. (Edward?) Dryden,was living in the backblocks of Seaford and also starring for the team.

Just before the tragedy, he'd been offered a job at Tom Maw's sand pit at Rosebud. Bill stepped onto a wheel to get off the tray of the truck just as it started reversing and was crushed by the truck.

ROSEBUD v. RED HILL. Red Hill turned out in full force last Saturday when their team visited Rosebud and were rewarded by a win. Both sides were very anxious to win this match, particularly Rosebud, who had their previous beating by Red Hill to repay. However, after quite the best game that has been played in Rosebud this season, Red Hill won by two points - a very unfortunate state of affairs for Rosebud. A large crowd of Rosebud supporters watched the match and the excitement was intense.
Dryden, Anderson and Wong Bros. showed up well for Rosebud; H.Liversidge was handicapped by his fingers being still tied and not yet right.The final scores were Red Hill 9.5; Rosebud 7.14. Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Saturday 27 July 1929 p 7 Article

SEAFORD OBITUARY . Regret was expressed on the Peninsula, last Saturday when it was learned that Mr. W. Dryden had met his death by accident at Rosebud. The deceased was a well-known footballer around the district, having played with the Rosebud team a year or two ago, and last year captained the Seaford club. He had just recently left Seaford to accept employment at Rosebud. He leaves a widow and two young children. Deepest sympathy is extended to his parents, widow and children. SEAFORD OBITUARY
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Saturday 25 November 1933 p 4 Article.


Gowrie or Gowrie Park was the southern half (320 acres) of section 5,Will Will Rook.

It fronted Hilton St, a government road,which the Oaklands Hunt apparently called Glenroy road.* The Morley St house blocks are just within the western boundary and the house blocks in Andrew and John Streets just within the northern boundary. Fairleigh St houses indicate the eastern boundary of section 5 and Gowrie Park. (Melway 17 B1 and F2, north to 7 B11 and the midpoint of the western boundary of the Melbourne Water Retarding Basin in 7 F12.)

(* Being set going again the pack continued north over the Glenroy-lane into Mr Robertson's, thence through Mr A Gibb's property on to the Broadmeadows-road**. Sunbury News and Bulla and Melton Advertiser (Vic. : 1892 - 1900) Saturday 1 September 1894 p 2 Article.) **If in Broadmeadows, today's Camp Rd was called Campbellfield road but if in Campbellfield,it would be called the Broadmeadows road.

63-65 Gowrie Street Glenroy

A precious piece of Glenroys history awaits the buyer of Gowrie House, one of oldest surviving homes in the district.Built in 1855, the property with a heritage overlay is closely related to the earlier constructed Meadowbank, now known as the manner(SIC) house in Campbellfield. Standing tall behind a circular driveway on a large 1495sqm block approx, the house makes an eye-catching statement in this suburban street of late 20th century homes. Impressive,it would not look out of place in Scotlands lowlands because its architecture is based on the traditional house of a Scottish laird (landowner).

The solid blue stone house features a slate roof, tall chimneys, prominent gable dormer windows and dressed stonework quoins and copings. It was constructed for Scottish migrant and noted pastoralist James Robertson on one of two homestead lots that were part of a Crown pre-emptive right acquired in 1848 by Robertson and his cousin Alexander Gibb. Gowrie House is on the northern section of the divided allotment.

The exterior is in the original condition and comes complete with a foundation stone inscribed with the date of its formation. Over the years, the stables and outbuildings have been demolished while the interior has been extensively renovated to meet modern lifestyle needs.(etc.)

Circa 1841.
James Gibb and James Robertson,both of whom had married Coupar sisters set up a coach building/blacksmith business and at about the time leased 640 acres from the Crown. Although prizes were won with Gibb and Robertson ploughs in 1850, James Robertson seemed to have had another Campbellfield blacksmith by the name of Myers as a business partner by 1845. It is presumed that the land leased in 1841 (of which nothing has been found on trove)was crown allotment 5, which was sold to Gibb and Robertson in 1848 for a pound per acre*. Nothing more was heard of James Gibb (the blacksmith)and the co-grantee was his brother,Alexander.

*The article about crown land sales (P.2, The Melbourne Argus, 3-3-1848) states that Gibb and Robertson had paid a pound per acre for lot 32, 640 acres, which was wrongly described as portion 12,Will Will Rook. Section 12 of 1189 acres (today's Northcorp Industry Park and east to Merri Creek) was granted to Neil Campbell.The Will Will Rook parish map (google WILL WILL ROOK, COUNTY OF BOURKE)names AndrewGibb as the co-grantee with J.Robertson,not James Gibb.

1863. James Robertson,320 acres, "Gowrie Park", net annual value 144 pounds- as for Gibb's. (Broady rates.)

ROBERTSON.-On the 17th inst., at Gowrie-park, Campbellfield, Ann, the beloved wife of James Robertson,
aged 58 years.(P.4, Argus,18-12-1872.)

THE Friends of JAMES ROBERTSON, of Gowrie Park, Campbellfield, are respectfully requested to follow the remains of his late wife to the Campbellfield* General Cemetery on Thursday, the 10th inst., at 2 o'clock p.m. The funeral to move from his residence, Gowrie Park.(P.8, Argus, 18-12-1872.) *Will Will Rook Cemetery.

ROBERTSONKIRKLAND.On the 17th January, at the residence of Robt. Kelly, Coburg, brother-in-law
of the bride, by the Rev. John Cooper, John Robertson, Superintendent Jika Reformatory, and eldest son
of James Robertson, Gowrie Park, Campbellfield, to Kate, fifth daughter of A. Kirkland, late Sub-inspector
of Constabulary, Lisbellaw, Fermanagh, Ireland. (Illustrated Australian News (Melbourne, Vic. : 1876 - 1889) Wednesday 21 February 1877 p 30 Family Notices.)

No 320 acre property at Campbellfield but a James Robertson had 217 acres at Somerton. (Broady rates.)

ROBERTSON. On the 28th inst., at Sunnyside, Waggarandall, the residence of his son-in-law, Mr.James Moodie, James Robertson, late of Gowrie-park, Campbellfield, and No. 6 Bridport-street, Albert-park, aged 80 years. A colonist of 47 years.(P.1, Argus,30-7-1888.)

The Gibb in-laws, the descendants of James Robertson,were supposed to have moved away from Gowrie Park in 1872, so who was the J.R.Robertson,of Gowrie Park, Campbellfield whose very fine cow sold for 11 pounds two decades later? (P.30, Argus,24-12-1892.)-digitisation near bottom but actual portion of newspaper can't be found.First-class milkers, 7 to 11,the latter price being given for a veiy fine cow. the property of Mr. J. R. Robertson, Gowrie park, Campbellfield.

Thomas B.C.Robinson* leasing 317 acres, "Gowrie" at Campbellfield from James Robertson.(P.S.Perhaps the farm was leased in two parts,the house on 3 acres and the remaining 317 acres for grazing.) James Robertson of Somerton had two parcels,of 44 and 180 acres at SOMERTON. (Broady rates.)

ROBISON.-On the 27th May, Henry, eldest son of *T. B. C. Robison, "Laurieston," Church-square, St.Kilda. Interred St. Kilda Cemetery,Tuesday, 28th inst. (P.1, Argus,29-5-1901.)

P.S.ROBISON (nee Pye)-On the 5th January, at Brunswick, the wife of T. C. Robison, 'Gowrie,'Campbellfield- a son. (P.1, Argus,8-1-1908.)

Robert Lewis**,trainer,owns the 317 acre "Gowrie."
**It seems that,like Jim Pike (see KILTS AND COW DUNG FLATS), Robert Lewis combined riding and training.
Lewis and the Derby.
R. Lewis has a remarkable riding record in the Victorian Derby, having piloted seven winners. He won on Maltster in 1900, Hautvilliers in 1901, Sylvanite in 1904,Alawa in 1908, Wolowa in 1912, Carlita in 1914, and Furious last year. (P.6, Argus,3-11-1922.)

CAR ILLEGALLY USED. Charged with having illegally used a motorcar, Alexander Leslie Brothers, farm assistant of Gowrie Park Campbellfield appeared at the Essendon Court on Monday. (P.8, Argus, 8-4-1930.)

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N.B. Gibb family genealogy (plentiful on trove) is only included here where it affects the occupancy of Meadowbank.

P.2,The Melbourne Argus, 3-3-1848. At a sale of crown land on Wednesday 1st, Gibb and Robertson bought lot 32, portion 12* (sic) Will Will Rook of 640 acres at one pound per acre. (*Actually crown allotment 5.)

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 27 May 1850 p 2 Article
... . 5 2itd do to David Anderson, servant to Messrs Gibb and Robertson, Campbellfield . 3 3rd do to ... to Mr. John Cameron, Tober-mony, Deep Creek. 2 2nd do Messrs Gibb and Robertson, Campbellfield.
(EXTRACT: I was also informed that the ploughs by which the prizes were taken had been made by Messrs. Gibb and Robertson, Campbellfield, and Mr. Cook, Melbourne;)

Mr Gibb was James Gibb, blacksmith,who like James Robertson had married a Coupar girl. It was James Gibb who took out the crown lease of section 5, Will Will Rook with James Robertson circa 1841. Unlike his namesake nephew and his brother,Andrew, James Gibb had no taste for farming and -just disappeared from the scene, so that his brother and James Robertson were the co-grantees of section 5.

The following might account for the later marriage of Alexander Coupar Gibb and Margaret Ferguson Inglis (nee Dods.) The Dods family pioneered the Woodstock district which is west of Donnybrook and presumably near Upper Plenty. Did Alexander Gibb own "Glenvale*? Alexander was obviously adept at all branches of horticulture!

*The answer to the above question is NO! The owner of Glenvale was Henry Gibbs who married Margaret, the widow of Irishman,John Harlin,who with James Bowie Kirk (founder of Kirk's Bazaar)had pioneered the area in 1838.(Early Whittlesea HOW IT WAS SETTLED DETAILS OF THE PIONEERS
Advertiser (Hurstbridge, Vic. : 1922 - 1939) Friday 12 November 1937 p 1 Article and other trove results.)

On Friday week next, the 18th, the Whittlesea branch of tho Victoria Society purpose holding their annual ploughing match on Mr. Gibb's farm, Glenvale, Upper Plenty. ......

There was some doubt last year whether the pear grown by Mr. Gibb, at Campbellfield, was the largest produced that season or not, but this year, we imagine, there can be no doubt on the subject, unless the fruit of the colony generally has taken to growing much beyond its accustomed size. (P.1s, Argus, 11-5-1860.)

The Gazette.
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 20 October 1866 p 23 Article
... roll of magistrates for the colony of Victoria, viz., David Laidlaw, Esq., Hamilton; Alexander Gibb, Esq., Campbellfield ; (etc.)

Alexander Gibb was the Campbellfield correspondent for The Australasian with his articles mainly concerned with farming details.One piece of information on 26-4-1873 (see below), that there were few sheep in the Campbellfield area is of interest. The coming of the north eastern railway in 1872 provided easy access to Melbourne markets and dairy farms became more common. I would presume that the milk was "carted" to the Broadmeadows Station, not all the way to Melbourne.

EXTRACT ONLY. Jaii/%ming-Tfts% cai^e^tTa gS£t (OOPS!)Dairy Farming- This is carried on to a great extent, in fact, it is increasing year by year, and numbers who have not got sufficient pasture of their own purchase milk from their neighbours; the whole of this is carted to Melbourne, and they come and go twice a day. A few, who do not dispose of their milk in this way, make butter and cheese the greater portion of which is disposed of in Melbourne. Sheep Farming-No sheep kept in this district.
(The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 26 April 1873 p 1 Article)

Gibb. On the 23rd ult. at his residence, Meadowbank, Campbellfield, Alexander Gibb, aged 71 years,a colonist of 41 years. ( The Australasian Sketcher with Pen and Pencil (Melbourne, Vic. : 1873 - 1889) Saturday 8 April 1882 p 111 Family Notices)

GIBB.On the 3rd inst., at Meadowbank, Campbellfield, John Coupar, second son of the late Alexander Gibb, aged 37. (P.1, Argus,4-2-1886.)

I have written about the contrasting fates of Alex Coupar Gibb,who is supposed to have had a windfall of two thousand pounds (most likely a forfeited deposit or part-payment from a speculator) and John Coupar Robertson.The following indicates that but for the bust, circa 1892, that followed the land boom of the late 1880's, Meadowbank would have ceased to be a farm. It is probable that the company had taken possession of the farm and leased it to George Crinnion.

Mr. PURVES.-The draft is dated-1888,and it shows an agreement between Mr. J. E.Gourlay, Mr. James Mirams, and Mr. William Doherty. It recites that whereas the said J.E. Gourlay has entered into a contract, bearing date January 18, with Elizabeth Gibb, for the purchase of all that portion of land in the parish of Will Will-Rook, in the county of Bourke, being the northern moiety of Section No. 5 mentioned in a certain conveyance made between Alexander Gibb and the said Elizabeth Gibb, for the sum of £42,515, of which sum £9,110 has been paid, and the balance is to be paid by three bills of £10,628 4s., £11 134 7s., and £11,640 9s. 6d.; and whereas the sum of £6,075, being part of the said sum of £9,110,was paid by the said J. E. Gourlay, and was
in fact money belonging to the said James Mirams and William Doherty, and the purchase was made by the said J. E. Gourlay as a trustee for and on behalf of the said James Mirams and Win. Doherty,subject to the payment by them of two thirds of the sum falling due, it is hereby declared that they shall hold the land in partnership.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 1 July 1890 p 10 Article)

1892. The Gibb in-laws, the descendants of James Robertson,were supposed to have moved away from Gowrie Park in 1872, so who was the J.R.Robertson,of Gowrie Park, Campbellfield whose very fine cow sold for 11 pounds two decades later? (P.30, Argus,24-12-1892.)-digitisation near bottom but actual portion of newspaper can't be found.First-class milkers, £7 to £11,the latter price being given for a veiy fine cow. the property of Mr. J. R. Robertson, Gowrie park, Campbellfield.

Clearing Sale - We held a successful clearing sale for Mr Geo Crinnion,Gibb's Farm, Campbellfield, when the whole of his cattle, horses, implements, hay and sundries were disposed of at very satisfactory prices.
(P.10, Argus, 30-3-1893.) George's lease had not expired; he had sold the lease.
(The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 18 March 1893 p 31 Advertising)
The Crinnions were prominent in Broadmeadows Shire at Crowe's Hill,formerly John Crowe's Mt Yuroke, (Melway 385 G5) and leased James Hearn's Thorn Grove until 1887. Family members took over William Eastwood's Hay and Corn Store on the north side of South St, Ascot Vale,east of East St. I think they also get a mention in my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF BULLA journal re Brannigan's "St Johns".

Alexander Coupar Gibb was back on Meadowbank but was not dairy farming yet. It takes time to build up a herd so he was fattening lambs on what the Oaklands Hunt referred to as the Meadowbank "sward".

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 8 May 1895 p 3 Article
... ., Raven stone, (I, Ss to fss. Od , J T Kindellan, Bav Flat, Gippsland, 0 bonnidowns, at los ed, A C Gibb, Meadow Bank, Campbellfield.

Alexander may have been back on Meadowbank by August 1894 when he stood for council.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 11 August 1894 p 9 Article
... Shire of Broadmeadows -DAVIS, JAMES; GIBB, ALEXANDER COUPAR.

VANDERZEE ( Alexander). - On the 20th August,George, the beloved husband of Annie A. Vanderzee, aged 36, late of Victoria parade, East Melbourne. Interred privately, 1st September. (P.1, Argus, 3-9-1906.)

GIBB - INGLIS -On the 16th March, at the E.S. and A. Bank House, Malvern, by the Rev. W. G. Maconochie, M.A., Alex. H.Gibb, Meadow Bank, Campbellfield, to Margaret Ferguson Inglis, William street, Hawthorn. At home at the E.S. and A. Bank House, Malvern (Armadale station), Friday, April 30th. ( P.13, Argus, 24-4-1909.)

The above obviously has a misprint,the groom being Alex.C.Gibb. If so Alex. was about 49 years old.

The quaintness and charm which characterise many old-world farmsteads, and at which the so-called Queen Anne villaaims, but seldom reaches, may occasionally be found in the homes raised by thepioneers in Victoria, and more often in the older State of Tasmania, whose temperate climate makes this style of house suitable to every part of the State. To the observersuch a house as Meadowbank carries the feeling of "'home" in contradistinction to"dwelling," and this is emphasised with closer inspection. Built in 1856, of stone quarried in the neighbourhood, with walls two feet thick, chimneys and cupboards contained in the thickness of the walls, high eaves, a steeply-pitched slate roof, from which project quaint dormer-windows, and surrounded by stately plantation trees with garden and lawns in front, it stands a fitting monument of a family which has earned such high respect among the landed proprietors of Victoria. Mr. A. C. Gibb, the present owner and occupier of the house built by his father, can look with pride around him, as the trees surrounding his old home were planted by himself when a schoolboy, and he has watched them grow from slender plants into forest monarchs. Nor need he fear the reproach that the "big house,"-for so it was called by the country-side in the early days- is not as it was. The neatness of surroundings, convenience of arrangements, and the abundance of shelter for animals and implements, all indicate farming on sound lines.
The stables, and milking-shed are of stone, with thick walls and stone-paved floors, well drained, and substantially built throughout. The partitions in the former are of thick, wide planking, laid horizontally, high at the head, and curving down to the rear post, and are as sound as the day they were built, nearly sixty years ago. The stalls-eight, and a loose box-are 6ft. 3in.wide, which gives ample room for grooming and harnessing the biggest draught horses. A 10ft. passage gives room for backing out and turning round, while lattice work along the rear wall provides the ventilation. Several of the draught horses were in the stable, and showed not only activity and strength, but careful feeding and grooming. A gelding, 25 years of age, but sound as a bell through good treatment, is capable of working for many years. The milking-shed was formerly an old type threshing-barn,the machinery being installed on the upperfloor and driven by horse-works below, with exits above for the various products from the thresher. In the creek was a mill, where the grain was converted into flour for the diggings. The place is well equipped with implements, an oil engine heading the list; and for every implement shed room is provided. A carpenter's shop and a tool-house, furnished with shelves and racks for implements, are in keeping with their surroundings. When it is remembered that stonemasons were paid £1 per day in those days, and other workmen in proportion, the cheap sneer that the holdings cost the pioneers nothing can be passed over with contempt. Detached from the milking-shed is the milkroom, a pattern of cleanliness. The water for the cooler is raised by a windmill, close by, and afterwards runs to a brick-in cement trough, of 1,200gals. capacity, which waters two paddocks. The well is 40ft.deep, and inexhaustible.
Milk is supplied wholesale for the Melbourne market, so that there is no offseason, but about 65 cows are in milk all the year round. The herd is kept up by picked calves from the best milkers and by purchases of in-calf heifers from outside, a business requiring keen judgment. The sloping shoulders, fine withers, and light forequarters, broad, straight hind-quarters,
deep, broad thighs, capacious udders, well developed teats and milk veins, give the whole
herd a family likeness, which is further accentuated by the brown and white colouring of many of them. .Constitution is not forgotten, if one may judge from the depth of chest, while the clear eyes and bright coats indicate that pitch of health only obtained by liberal and judicious, feeding. The rule is never to let the cow get down in condition, so they are hand-fed at least nine months in the year. A milker is employed for every twenty cows milked, and this leaves them time to get in green maize or other fodder, the cows being bailed up and fed for them.
The pasture is usually the mainstay of the stock, but here so liberal is the feeding that one is almost tempted to take the fodder crops first. However, considerable care is shown in sowing various grasses, and these must be considered, when studying the ration. After a paddock has been cropped in a certain rotation for about six years, it is sown down, as a rule, with a mixture of rye grass, cocksfoot, and clover. The proportion used is about three parts rye grass to one part cocksfoot and clover. Two bushels to the acre of the mixture are sown, of which the rye grass responds at once, and affords good pasture, while the cocksfoot does not show up till the following season. Both Alsike and white clover are used. Timothy and paspalum dilatatum
have been tried, but have not proved a success so far. The clovers do remarkably well, and spread naturally, especially where artificial manures have been used with the preceding crops. From 30 to 40 acres are sown with wheat and oats mixed for hay. Mr. Gibb reckons that the wheat and oats mixed "make" better in the sheaf. The oats when alone go yellow in wet weather. The wheat not only helps it to cure better but holds it up. Algerian oats and Frampton wheat or College Purple Straw are the varieties employed, the proportion being 2 bushels oats to 1.5 wheat, and sowing in at the rate of 1.25 bushels per acre. A hayshed saves thatching, and the sample onhand under cover is well coloured, sweet smelling, and with a good proportion of grain. Maize is relied on for a great bulk of the fodder, the variety mentioned previously under "Farm and Dairy" {a variety of Red Horse Tooth, known locally as Sydney 120-day) having been proved to give the best returns. Sowings are made in October, November, December, and sometimes as late as January, if December has, been unfavourable. Sowing through every second hoe of the drill, 1 bushel to the acre of seed is used; and, on ground that has been cropped for several years from 70lb. to 80lb. of superphosphate.
In preparing the ground for cropping, it is usually ploughed early, worked up well with the disc cultivator, or spring-tooth and given two strokes of the harrows before sowing. If the ground is lumpy, and in a wet season, the spring-tooth cultivator is used again before sowing. The roller comes into play after sowing before the crop is up. Both cultivators do good work. As a rule two crops of hay are taken off, and then two or three of maize on rich ground; but on medium soil, one crop of hay only. The horse hoe is used between the rows of maize, and with good results for every working. After the hay is off, some of the stubble ground is turned under and sown with peas, which comes in for feed in the winter. A maize crop following the peas always makes great growth. The cost of putting in a crop of maize figures out at about £1 per acre. The yield of green stuff or ensilage is seldom under 10 tons per acre, so that the cost of raising this fodder crop per ton is very small. The ration for the cows just now is 30lb. maize, 10 lb. chaff and 4 lb. bran. When this is added to the grass they can eat in grazing, and this mainly clover, those interested will find that a well-balanced ration is provided, and at a low cost. Straw is used in poor seasons to supplement the feed, and with this in view the grain is threshed slightly on the green side. Oaten straw cut at this stage is found to give particularly good feed. The difference between town and country life is well exemplified in the household. In town the average family knows little and takes less interest in the breadwinner's occupation; but at Meadowbank farm operations and results are keenly followed.( P.8, The Australasian, 28-6-1913.)

A number of gentlemen, including Cr.McLean, Ex-Cr. Robertson, Messrs. Porter,Pearson, Hawkins, Maltzahn and Gibson, presented a numerously signed petition to Cr. Gibb, at that gentleman's residence,on Monday evening, praying that he would submit himself for re-election as the representative for the Campbellfield Riding in
the Broadmeadows Council.

Mr. Gibson, in formally presenting the petition, said he was not familiar with the practice of presenting petitions, but he felt honoured in being asked to present and support the one in question, and hoped that his feeble efforts would result satisfactorily. There was no desire to disparage the attainments or qualifications
of other aspirants for the seat, but it was felt that the proposed retirement of Cr, Gibb, at a period when a number of very important matters affecting the welfare of the district, as also the finances of the Council, were shortly to be dealt with, would be most unfortunate. The ratepayers could not afford to lose the services of Cr. Gibb, whoso ripe experience and intimate acquaintance with the entire affairs of the Council rendered his retention of the seat almost imperative.The petition would, under any circumstances, prove very gratifying to Cr. Gibb inasmuch as it contained the names and the signatures of a very large number of ratepayers in the riding so ably represented by Cr. Gibb, and also exhibited genuine appreciation of his conduct as a councillor.

The preparation and completion of the petition was due entirely to the enthusiastic efforts of Cr. McLean, whose native modesty alone prevented him from formally presenting it.In conclusion, Mr. Gibson said that as
the mouthpiece of the gentlemen present as also of the signatories, he sincerely hoped that Cr. Gibb would accede to the request of its humble petitioners. Ex-Cr. Robertson supplemented the former speaker's remarks, and referred to Cr.Gibb's untarnished career, and felt that it would be a calamity to lose his services at the present juncture.

Cr. Gibb spoke feelingly in reply, and acknowledged the honour in being so generously requisitioned. He had made a resolution not to seek re-election not because of the work involved-indeed, he liked the wholesome side of municipal work, and felt dignified in performing it but, as he had stated 3 years ago he would retire at end of his term, and felt, under the circumstances, he had to adhere to his statement. However, in view of the
handsome manner in which he had been approached, he felt it very difficult to refuse, and would yield to the wishes of the deputation.(P.6, Flemington Spectator, 6-8-1914.)

Campbellfield Riding Election. Cr. Alexander C. Gibb, who has represented the Campbellfield Riding of the Shire of Broadmeadows for many years past with distinction, notifies that in response to a largely signed petition
he has decided to stand for re-election.(The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Thursday 13 August 1914 p 2 Article)

Miss Inglis, daughter of Mrs. A. C. Gibb,"Meadow Bank," Campbellfield, writes of her safe arrival in England from Switzerland. After visiting the Isle of Wight and Devonshire, she proposed leaving for Scotland.
(P.29, Table Talk,12-11-1914.)

Mr. and Mrs. A. C. Gibb, of Meadowbank, Campbellfield, are spending a holiday in Sydney.
(The Essendon Gazette and Keilor, Bulla and Broadmeadows Reporter (Moonee Ponds, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Thursday 8 April 1915 p 3 Article)

Meadow Bank, the old picturesque bluestone residence of Mr. and Mrs. A. G. Gibb,of Campbellfield, was the scene of a Red Cross fete on Saturday, April 20. Some few months ago Mrs. Gibb inaugurated a Red Cross branch in this part of the countryone of the earliest settlements in Victoriaand as funds are now required for the purchase of material to work upon, she, as president of the branch, arranged to hold this fete with a view to raising the money and bringing together the residents of this scattered farming district.Meadow Bank was built over 60 years ago for Mr. Gibbs's father, and the grounds surrounding the house are ideally laid out for the purpose of a fete.........Among those who had charge of the stalls,&c., were Mesdames R. Jones, Percy Oliver,and John Coldwell (produce). Miss Shepherd (flowers), Mrs.F.Olsen (sweets andice cream), Mesdames E.A.Porter,A.Austin, and F. Sheahan (work), Miss Oliver(cakes), Miss Kitty Ingles, Miss Dodds, and Mr. Wilshire (spinning tables), and Mr.Pearson (motor rides). (P.32, The Australasian, 27-4-1918.)

Mr. and Mrs. A. C. Gibb are staying at the George Hotel for a while, having leased their property, Meadowbank, Campbellfield, for a year, to Captain and Mrs.Donald Mackinnon. Mrs. Gibb's only son,,Lieut. Jack Ingles,
returned this week from active service. He was away for nearly five years. He also is staying at the George
Hotel.(P.44, The Australasian, 20-12-1919.)

1920-1. Broadmeadows rates. In about August 1920, John Ingles was assessed on 264 acres of Meadowbank and A.C.Gibb the house and 30 acres.

Mr. and Mrs. A. C. Gibb return this week to their property, Meadow Bank,Campbellfield, after having spent 12 months at St. Kilda. Captain and Mrs, D.Mackinnon have been renting Meadow Bank, and have taken an active part in hunting.(P.47,The Australasian,4-12-1920.)

The marriage of Miss Rene Alexander Vanderzee, younger daughter of Mrs. A. Alexander Vanderzee, of Vanda House, Chelsea, and Mr. Frank S. Treadwell of Fairby, York street, St.Kilda, will take place at All Saints Church, Chapel street,East St Kilda, on Thursday, March 11, at 1.30 p.m. (P.39, The Australasian,6-3-1920.)


At a meeting of the council of the Royal Agricultural Society of Victoria yesterday, Mr. A. C. Gibb, of Meadowbank, Campbellfield, was granted leave of absence for 12 months. Mr. Gibb proposes making a holiday trip to Britain.(P.18, Argus, 13-5-1925.)

I, Robert Strachan Farrell, being the holder of a victualler's licence for the Imperial Hotel,Bourke and Spring streets, Melbourne in the Melbourne Licensing District, and I, Annie Alexander, of Meadowbank, Campbellfield hereby give notice, that we will APPLY to the Licensing Court at Melbourne on Monday, the thirty first day of May, one thousand nine hundred and twenty six for the TRANSFER of the LICENCE to the said Annie Alexander.
Dated this 21st day of May, 1926.R.S.FARRELL. A ALEXANDER.Leach and Thomson, solicitors, 191 Queen street.
Melbourne. (P.19, Argus, 22-5-1926.) SEE 1949.

From Meadowbank Pty Co. re water on Camp road. The secretary said the Council's solicitor advised they would be quite safe in taking over the guarantee of a company named. (P.2, Kilmore Free Press, 2-2-1928.)

Writing extensively in upper case is regarded as shouting,so please cover your ears while you read the following!
(By Private Treaty.)
Will Be Held on Delightful
(Please Note the Date.)
Take Electric Tram in SWANSTON STREET to NORTH COBURG Terminus in SYDNEY ROAD,
Will Take Prospective Buyers from the NORTH COBURG TRAM TERMINUS (at Baker's Road,
in Sydney Road), to MEADOWBANK ESTATE. The Motor-cars will Run Between the Tram
Terminus and MEADOWBANK ESTATE During the Hours from 2.15 p.m. to 6 p.m.
WITHIN A FEW WEEKS, the Railway line to Campbellfield Will Be Opened for PASSENGER
Views of the Citv, the Bay, and the Surrounding Country. It is Only Eight Miles from
Melbourne. There Are Shops and Hotels Quite Close to the Estate. Within a Few Weeks
L80 000 Has Been Spent in Water Supply System for Campbellfield and District. All Round
MEADOWBANK are the Signs of That Awakening Which Precedes the Establishment of a
SPLENDID NEW SUBURB. Now is the Time to BUY.
We INVITE YOU to Come Along to MEADOWBANK ESTATE on Saturday, February 25; Walk
Around, and Inspect the Land for Yourself, And If You Like It (Which We Know You
Will). Buy a Block or Two in This DELIGHTFUL NEW SUBURB.
RING, XXKITE, or CALL lor Illustrated ramphlcts and riana ol MEADOWBANK ESTATE.
The Solicitors to the Estate are Mesar«. RIGBY and FIELDING, CO Market Slreet, Melbourne.
Sole Selling Agents. (P.2, Argus, 16-2-1928.)

Did Annie buy a tractor?
DRAUGHT HORSE and DRAY. Harness, suitable any work, good order, reasonable. Meadowbank, Campbellfield.
(P.3, Argus, 29-5-1937.)

Cup Stories
This story of a schoolboy's fondness for Flemington and its unpleasant consequences wins a prize of 5/ for Mr.
George Alexander, of Meadowbank, Campbellfield. This happened the year Poseidon won the Melbourne Cup carrying the colours "all purple." As I witnessed the race, contrary to the orders of my head master, the late Mr.L.A. Adamson, of Wesley, I decided to wear my purple school cap inside out to make myself less conspicuous to any master who might be enjoying the "sport of kings." But the ruse failed. I was on the mat next morning, and was taxed with the offence, which I admitted. Punishment-confined to barracks next week-end for "wearing wrong colours." The punishment was not as great as I feared, as "Dicky" was in his prime in those days with the birch, and Pure Gold would have swooned on the spot had he received a couple of his cuts where they hurt.
(P.9, Argus,27-9-1939.)

ALEXANDER. On June 18, at his residence, Campbellfield, Robert Walter (late 1st A.I.F. and Anzac), loving second son of Mrs. A. Alexander and late George Alexander, and brother of George, Gilbee, Eric, and
the late Mrs. Rene Treadwell.Sadly missed. An old soldier faded away. (P.2, Argus,21-6-1948.)#
#Also submitted under the surname VANDERZEE on page 8.

ALEXANDER - On August 31 at her residence Meadowbank, Camp road,Campbellfield, Anne, beloved wife of the late George Alexander and loved mother of George Robert (deceased*),Elizabeth (Mrs. Crocker-Smith), Irene
(Mrs Frank Treadwell deceased*) and Eric, and darling grandmother of Neville (deceased*), Verna, Valda, Ray,
Howard (deceased*), Valerie, Elizabeth and Alan -At rest. (P.12,Argus,1-9-1949.) *How sad!

ALEXANDER. - On August 31. at her residence, Meadowbank, Campbellfield, loving mother of Gil, and grandmother of Verna. -At rest. (P.12, Argus, 2-9-1949.)

ANNIE VANDERZEE (Otherwise Annie Alexander), Late of "Meadowbank," Campbellfield, Widow, Deceased. -
After 14 clear days. Eric Gordon Alexander Vanderzee, of 375 Barkers road, Kew, shopkeeper, and NATIONAL TRUSTEES EXECUTORS AND AGENCY COMPANY OF AUSTRALASIA LIMITED, whose registered office is situate at 95 Queen street. Melbourne, the executors appointed by deceased's will, dated 25th January, 1949,will APPLY to the Supreme Court for a grant of PROBATE of the said will.LEACH AND THOMSON, solicitors, 472 Bourke street. Melbourne. (P.17, Argus, 9-9-1949.)

ALEXANDER-VANDERZEE. - In loving memory of my son, Rob, passed away June l8, 1948, late 2nd Mobile Section. First A.I.F. -Sadly missed.(Mother.)
ALEXANDER-VANDERZEE. - In loving memory of my brother, passed away June l8. 1948, late 2nd Mobile Section, First A.I.F. -Sadly missed.(Gill and Verna.)(P.15, Argus, 18-6-1949.#

I presume somebody submitted Annie's notice for her!!! So who was Gil? Has to be Elizabeth!
# in 1948 shows that Gil was Elizabeth but her married name should have been in brackets to make this clear in the VANDERZEE death notice.


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Mrs Kate Robertson widow of the late Mr John Coupar Robertson formerly of Gowrie Park Campbellfield who died at her home in Coburg on January 3 had a long association with the Coburg and Campbellfield districts. Arriving in Australia from Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland in 1875 as Miss Kate Kirkland, she was for some years organist of the first Coburg Presbyterian Church and at the time of her death was the oldest living member of the congregation. (P.5, Argus,7-1-1941.)

James and Ann Robertson had eight children; their son, John C.Robertson was born in a tent in 1845. The sons of Alexander Gibb and James Robertson experienced contrasting levels of prosperity. Alexander Coupar Gibb received a 2000 pound deposit during the land boom (circa 1890) but John Coupar Robertson struggled financially and was employed at Pentridge before becoming a coke merchant in Albert St.,Melbourne. (Deidre Farfor's genealogical and biographical notes.)

ROBERTSON. -On the 4th November at "Athol," Kendall street, Coburg, John Coupar, dearly loved husband of Kate Robertson, eldest son of the late James Robertson, of "Gowrie Park," Campbellfield, in his 79th year. (Interred privately Coburg Cemetery, Monday, November 5.) P.1, Argus,6-11-1923.

John Coupar Robertson
Found 10 Records, 10 Photos and 2,852,755 Family Trees
Born in Campbellfield, Victoria, Australia on 1845 to Ann Coupar. John Coupar married Kate Kirkland and had 6* children. He passed away on 1923.
Family Members Parents Unavailable Ann Coupar 1814-1872
Spouse(s) Kate Kirkland 1855-1940
James Archibald Robertson 1878-Unknown
John Kirkland Robertson 1880-Unknown
Alfred Ernest Robertson 1881-Unknown
Douglas Errol Robertson 1884-Unknown
Amy Caroline Robertson 1886-Unknown
Kate Kirkland Robertson 1887-1973

*As I have already found a notice about their THIRD DAUGHTER (Muriel, see below)and only two daughters are listed above, I believe that Deidre Farfor (who supplied her information to me about a quarter of a century ago) was right about 8 children.

ROBERTSON. In loving memory of Muriel Jessie, the dearly beloved third daughter of
Kate and the late John Coupar Robertson, who passed away on 22nd of February, 1924.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death,
neither sorrow, nor crying; neither shall there be any more pain.
(Inserted by her loving mother and family, Athol, Coburg.) P.1, Argus, 24-2-1925.


There is plenty of information about the relationship between the Gibbs of Meadowbank and Robertsons of Gowrie Park. Alexander Coupar Gibb's uncle,James Gibb, a blacksmith, and James Robertson had both married Coupar girls.
There is plenty of information on trove about Alexander Coupar Gibb's siblings. Several websites mention that Alexander Coupar Gibb married Margaret Ferguson Inglis but do not give even a year for the marriage or any information about her parents.

Another black hole concerns James Gibb. All that has been written about him is that he married the sister of James Robertson's wife,set up a coach building/ blacksmith business with James Robertson in Sydney Rd in 1841 and that they jointly leased from the Crown crown allotment 5, Will Will Rook at about that time, and that as James Gibb was not interested in farming, the 640 acre block was purchased by his brother,Alexander Gibb, a builder,who is believed to have built both the Meadowbank and Gowrie houses. (Interestingly this claim is not confirmed by the RED CROSS article which follows.)

Meadow Bank, the old picturesque bluestone residence of Mr. and Mrs. A. G. Gibb,of Campbellfield, was the scene of a Red Cross fete on Saturday, April 20. Some few months ago Mrs. Gibb inaugurated a Red Cross branch in this part of the countryone of the earliest settlements in Victoriaand as funds are now required for the purchase of material to work upon, she, as president of the branch, arranged to hold this fete with a view to raising the money and bringing together the residents of this scattered farming district.Meadow Bank was built over 60 years ago for Mr. Gibbs's father, and the grounds surrounding the house are ideally laid out for the purpose of a fete.........Among those who had charge of the stalls,&c., were Mesdames R. Jones, Percy Oliver,and John Coldwell (produce). Miss Shepherd (flowers), Mrs.F.Olsen (sweets andice cream), Mesdames E.A.Porter,A.Austin, and F. Sheahan (work), Miss Oliver(cakes), Miss Kitty Ingles, Miss Dodds, and Mr. Wilshire (spinning tables), and Mr.Pearson (motor rides). (P.32, The Australasian, 27-4-1918.)

As I was having trouble submitting information from my DHOTAMA about the Gibbs and Robertsons in my DON'T YOU DARE MELBOURNE HUNT journal, I did a hunt of my own-for James Gibb, the disappearing blacksmith. In the process, I discovered the siblings of Margaret Ferguson Inglis who married Alexander Coupar Gibb. I also found why I had been unable to find Alexander Coupar Gibb's marriage notice; his name was given as Alex.H.Gibb!

The following has been pasted from a comment under the DON'T YOU DARE MELBOURNE HUNT journal. I thought a separate journal was warranted for previously unpublished information. The J.Ingles (sic)who was leasing most of Meadowbank in 1920 was the only son of Daniel Inglis and his widow, Mrs A.C.Gibb; John INGLIS died suddenly at Port Adelaide in 1923. I'll let you work out the maiden name of Mrs Daniel Inglis/ Mrs A.C.Gibb! It would be fascinating to work out why M.F.Inglis and A.C.Gibb were married in the E.S.&A. Bank house!

James Gibb and James Robertson selected 640 acres at Campbellfield and set up in business as coachbuilders and blacksmiths in Sydney Rd, living in a tent.
In 1920-1 Alexander Coupar Gibb was assessed on the Meadowbank house and 30 acres while J. Ingles (actually Inglis) was leasing 264 acres of the property from him. They were related (apparently twice!)

I discovered the Gibb/Inglis connection while I was trying to find what had happened to James Gibb, the blacksmith who selected section 5 Will Will Rook with James Robertson and had married the sister of Robertsons wife (nee Coupar.) I suspect that James Gibb moved to Ballarat where there would have been much demand for blacksmiths and later died in Richmond.

I suspect that Margaret Ferguson Inglis, whom Alexander Coupar Gibb married, was the widow of Daniel Inglis Jnr, who died in Queensland. It is almost certain that Margarets maiden name was Dods. Several websites state that both Alex. C. and Margaret died at Woodstock. Perhaps that was their last place of residence.

INGLIS.-On the 24th ult., at Hughenden, Queensland, Daniel Inglis, son of the late Daniel Inglis, Williamstown. P.1, Argus, 19-1-1893.)

DODS.-On the 10th July, at the residence of her cousin, Miss D. Dods 208 Sydney-road, Brunswick, Catherine Agnes (Cissie), youngest daughter of the late Alexander and Catherine Dods, of'Droushiel," Woodstock; loved sister of Mrs. A. C.Gibb, Mrs. C. S. Mummery and Jean B. Dods.
Leader (Melbourne, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Saturday 27 July 1918 p 55 Family Notices.

(This website has photos of the Meadowbank homestead (2009) and Gibb graves in the Will Will Rook Cemetery.

GIBB - INGLIS -On the 16th March, at the E.S. and A. Bank House, Malvern, by the Rev. W. G. Maconochie, M.A., Alex. H.Gibb, Meadow Bank, Campbellfield, to Margaret Ferguson Inglis, William street, Hawthorn. At home at the E.S. and A. Bank House, Malvern (Armadale station), Friday, April 30th. ( P.13, Argus, 24-4-1909.)

The above obviously has a misprint,the groom being Alex.C.Gibb. If so Alex. was about 49 years old.

INGLIS-On the 24th April, 1923, at Port Adelaide (suddenly), John, only son of Mrs. A. C. Gibb, Meadow Bank, Campbellfield, and the late Daniel Inglis, of Williamstown and Shepparton. (P.1, Argus, 26-4-1923.)

PRAAGST--INGLIS. -On the 5th September, 1923, at Scots Church Melbourne, by the Moderator General (the Right Rev.J.Mathew), Howard Francis, only son of Mrs Lionel Praagst of St. Kilda and the late Dr Lionel Praagst of Brighton to Kitty only daughter of Mrs Alex Gibb, of Campbellfield, and the late Dan Inglis of Shepparton. (P.17, Argus, 20-10-1923.)

GIBB. On September 11, at private hospital, Malvern, Alexander Coupar Gibb, late of Meadow Bank, Campbellfield, aged 88 years.
GIBB. On September 11, at private hospital, Malvern, Alexander Coupar Gibb, loved stepfather of Kitty Prangst. (P.2, Argus, 13-9-1948.)

Alexander Coupar Gibb
Born in Cambellfield, Victoria, Australia on 1860 to Alexander Gibb and Elizabeth Coupar. Alexander Coupar married Margaret Ferguson Inglis. He passed away on 1948.

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WISEMANWISEMAN. On the 24th August, 1910,at St. Matthew's Church of England, Glenroy, by the Rev. E. V. Wade, Arthur Ernest, youngest son of the late Albert Wiseman, of Glenroy, to Alice, youngest daughter of the late Arthur Wiseman, of Glenroy. At home, Ashworth (*SIC?), Glenroy, Friday, 2nd December.(P.1, Argus,29-11-1910.)

*I have found no other mention of Ashworth,Glenroy,in family notices or advertisements so I presume this is meant to be Ashleigh.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 23 September 1892 p 1 Family Notices
WISEMAN - On the 21st inst., at his late residence, 'Sawbridgeworth,' Glenroy, Arthur

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 30 August 1920 p 1 Family Notices
... . WISEMAN. On the 28th August, at "Ashleigh," Glenroy. Hannah, widow of the late Albert Wiseman.

The principals of the firm (Glenroy Land Co.) were Frank Stuart, John McCutcheon,and Arthur and Albert Wiseman, dividing half the shares between them.Arthur and Albert and a third brother,William had been enjoying the land boom thoroughly.