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1. The document containing evidence of the missing link in your research has been lost due to fire, flood or war.
2. The keeper of the vital records you need will just have had an argument with a previous genealogist.
3. Your great, great grandfather's obituary states that he died leaving no issue.
4. The town clerk you wrote in desperation, and finally convinced to give to you the information you need, can't write legibly, and doesn't have a copying machine.
5. The will you need is in the safe on board the "Titanic."
6. The spelling of your European ancestor's name bears no relationship to its current spelling or pronunciation.
7. Copies of old newspapers have holes which only occur on last names.
8. No one in your family tree ever did anything noteworthy, they always
rented property, never sued, never went to gaol or were never named in anyone's will.
9. You learned that great aunt Matilda's executor just sold her life's
collection of family genealogical materials to a flea market dealer.
10. Yours is the ONLY last name not found among the three billion in the world-famous Mormon archives in Salt Lake City.
11. Ink fades and paper deteriorates at a rate inversely proportional to the value of the data recorded.
12. The 37 volume, 16,000 page history of your county of origin isn't
13. The critical link in your family tree is named "Smith."
14. No matter how large the collection of special records, the one you are searching for is NEVER there!
15. You finally send away for that necessary certificate, and your aunt tells you she's had the original in a box under her bed for years.
16. The box of family photographs, you found in uncle Edgar's house after he died, have no names or dates on them
17. Your aunt can remember exactly how many times you missed sending her a birthday card, but not why her father went in gaol.
18. Everyone that shares your last name, but is not related is listed in great detail, your ancestor has nothing.
19. The family Bible that contains all the names you are researching was given to a person who doesn't care who any of his relatives are, and either misplaced, sold at a garage sale, or gave away the family Bible to his neighbor who is collecting Bibles to be sent to a mission in a non-English speaking nation.
20. The elderly great-aunt who could help you fill in the missing pieces says, "I don't believe in dredging up the past" and changes the subject - again.
Some of the above laws I found in The Hawkesbury Crier
of June 2006 (archived) author is unknown
The rest have been added by Family Tree Circle members
Up until last year, the majority of Eather family research claimed Amy E GUEST who was born on the 6 February 1862 at Muswellbrook, New South Wales married Somerset John VON STURMER. Using this marriage Registration as reference:-
5274/1900 STURMER SOMERSET J V GUEST AMY E SYDNEY
5274/1900 STURMER SOMERSET J VON GUEST AMY E SYDNEY
5274/1900 VON STURMER SOMERSET J GUEST AMY E SYDNEY
5274/1900 VONSTURMER SOMERSET J GUEST AMY E SYDNEY
It wasn't until last year that my research proved conclusively that in fact Somerset John VON STURMER married Amy Elvina GUEST the daughter of the late Henry George GUEST on 25 July 1900 at St Andrews Cathedral. I researched this family thoroughly and there is no doubt whatsoever.
Amy Elvina GUEST died 1901 in Paddington.
Then on the 11 December 1907 at All Saints Petersham Somerset VON STURMER married Bertha Amelia PODMORE, the youngest daughter of A S PODMORE of Narranderra. This marriage being performed by the bride's uncle J H MULLINS.
Once again 4 AMY Von STURMER death registrations-due to spelling differences:
10663/1901 STURMER AMY E VON HENRY C ELVINA PADDINGTON
10663/1901 STURMER (VON) AMY E HENRY G ELVINA PADDINGTON
10663/1901 (VON) AMY E STURMER HENRY G ELVINA PADDINGTON
10663/1901 STURMER(VON) AMY E HENRY G ELVINA PADDINGTON
My evidence is solid and conclusive with many many newspaper articles, certificates and hours of VON STURMER research to back it up.
Having proven the error, and alerted other researchers, I am still faced with the task of finding out exactly what happened to Amy E GUEST the daughter of Laban Thomas GUEST and Charlotte nee EATHER 1836-1888.
Many documents show her as Amy E GUEST. Family history research says the E was for EATHER.
So, Familytreecircles I need a death for Amy E GUEST and /or a marriage if there was one. Her father Laban Thomas GUEST 1835-1903 dropped the Laban and usually went by the name Thomas GUEST.
This is her birth registration:-
10707/1862 GUEST AMY E THOMAS CHARLOTTE MUSWELLBROOK
Below is a photograph of her, You can't see it here but there is a ring on the third finger of her left hand. My 1st cousin 3x removed.
Charlotte EATHER, the eighth child and fourth daughter of Thomas EATHER 1800-1886 and Sarah, nee McALPIN 1805-1884, was born at Richmond in the Hawkesbury district of New South Wales on 12 October 1836. She was baptised at Richmond on 18 December 1836. At that time her parents were residing in the "Union Inn" in Windsor Street, Richmond and her father was the publican there. Charlotte EATHER spent her childhood and teenage years at Richmond amongst her many sisters and brothers and their numerous relatives and friends. She undoubtedly had formal schooling and on Sundays attended church services in St Peter's Church with other members of her family. When she was twenty Charlotte EATHER was married to Laban Thomas GUEST on 3 December 1856. The groom, who was usually known as Thomas, had been born at Richmond on 18 July 1835, the eldest son in the family of fourteen children of George GUEST 1811-1893 and his wife, Jane,nee WHITE 1817-1865.
George GUEST had been born at Sevenoaks in Kent in 1811 and had arrived in New South Wales in 1832. He was a saddler by trade and had set himself up in business, firstly at Windsor and later at Richmond, where he was the proprietor of a tannery. In 1834 he married Jane WHITE, daughter of Laban WHITE, a prominent business man in the Hawkesbury district. George GUEST had shown enthusiastic support for St Peter's Church at Richmond when it was being established in the 1840's and had been generous in making financial donations towards the cost of timber for the building. Although a well respected businessman, George GUEST is probably best remembered as a sportsman, particularly for his prowess as a cricketer and a rifle shot.
During his teenage years Laban Thomas GUEST had served an apprenticeship as a saddler with his father.
Charlotte and Thomas GUEST didn't remain in the Richmond district for very long after their marriage. They moved to the Hunter Valley and were residing in the Maitland district when their first child was born in 1857. They were still there in July 1858, but by the time their second child was born in January 1859 they were at Muswellbrook. In 1863 Laban Thomas GUEST became publican of The Starof The North at Chain of Ponds, in the Muswellbrook district.
At that time Charlotte's sister Sarah was living at Muswellbrook, where her husband, William EATON, was the proprietor of the "White Hart" Inn, so there they were amongst relatives. They remained in the Muswellbrook district for about eight years. Their fifth child was born at Liddell in April 1867.
Between then and September 1869 they moved further up the valley to Murrurundi and lived there for at least the next eight years. The births of their last four children were all registered at Murrurundi.
Charlotte and Thomas Guest had nine children: It would appear that at some date between 1876 and 1885 Tom and Charlotte GUEST moved from Murrurundi to Gunnedah on the Namoi River. It was at Gunnedah that their third daughter, Sarah Jane, died on 25 August 1885 at the age of fifteen. Soon after this sad event the family moved to Tamworth.
Thomas was always one step ahead of the railway. There was a saying around for years, that if you saw Thomas building an hotel in town you could bet the railway was on it's way. Hence the many moves.
Charlotte died in Peel Street, Tamworth on 17 March 1888. She was only 51 years of age, and Tom was left with a family of seven, three of whom were still teenagers. Soon after the death of his wife, Tom and his family moved to Greta in the Hunter Valley about halfway between Singleton and Maitland. Son Lawson Charles married there in 1893, as did eldest daughter Ada Grace in 1899. Tom saw out his old age at Greta and died there on 5 September 1903.
The children of Laban Thomas GUESTand Charlotte nee EATHER :-
Thomas George Guest 1857 ? 1858
Ada Grace Guest 1859 ? 1922 m. Charles Francis PRUDAMES 1831-1909
Amy Eather Guest 1862 ? 1932
Lawson Charles Guest 1864 ? 1958 m. Sarah Thyra PHILLIPS 1872-1961
Walter Richmond Guest 1867 ? 1956 m. Sarah Amelia BOYCE 1865-1946
Sarah Jane Guest 1869 ? 1885
Edith Maud Guest 1871 ? 1948 m. William Julian FORBES
Lancelot Arthur Guest 1873 ? 1955 m. Delia Sarah YOUNGMAN
Kenneth Hilton Guest 1876 ? 1953 m.Amelia Christina FORBES 1882-1946
note Kenneth Hilton Guest was the father of Kenneth Leslie DAY 1897-1973 but mother Phoebe Elizabeth May DAY 1879-1966 refused to marry him prior to Kenneth's birth. Kenneth was then reared as the Youngest Son of Phoebe's mother. Phoebe was always referred to as Aunty May.
The photograph below is Charlotte
There's very little I can say about this shocking 1907 telegram which was sent by a Charles MORGAN from the Broome Station to Henry PRINCEP, who at the time was, Chief Protector of Aborigines for Western Australia, and based in Perth.
I do not know who Charles MORGAN was. I suppose I could find out, but then I don't really want to know.
Henry PRINCEP, recieved many such requests. What his replies were, I don't know. But he did file them away, perhaps for us to reflect and be ashamed.
For those who have trouble reading the telegram, it reads:-
COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA
POSTMASTER-GENERAL'S DEPARTMENT, WESTERN AUSTRALIA
20 JUL 07
TELEGRAM from Broome Station
Addressed to H. Princep Esq,
prot. of aborigines
Send cask arsenic exterminate aborigines letter will follow
Just reading about Sue Graham's post regarding the whoppers families
tell brought to mind a whopper in our family.
I really can't mention names, because I am sworn to secrecy.
But a certain person's great grandmother was so secretive about her age that
she went so far as to cut up her marriage certificate and hide the pieces
inside her handbag, never ever leaving the bag out of her sight.
No ammount of pleading or trickery would loosen her lips as to her age.
Then on the 7 September in 1989, with all the family and friends gathered,
preparing the house and food for her birthday celebrations,
(we still only knew the date and not the age) the doorbell rang,
"Will somebody get the door?" she called.
Can you imagine our surprise when we saw it was a telegram from the Queen;
congratulating her on reaching 100 years of age!
God love her, she died the next year on the 14 April 1990
You see! she had never wanted anyone to know that she was 7 years older than her husband - It was like that back then.