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Born Rachel CARR 21 May 1864. at Old Machar, Aberdeen,Scotland. Rachel's parents Margaret and John Carr had 6 children - a boy (who died of rheumatic fever at 10 yrs) followed by 5 girls. When the mother, Margaret, died (tuberculosis) in 1869, and the father, John, died (pleuritis) in 1870, Margaret Carr (John's sister who never married) looked after the girls until her death (tumour) in 1878. The two youngest girls were put into the Female Orphan Institute, 19 Albyn Place, Aberdeen, and in July 1883 the girls all migrated to Queensland, Australia; only one Sophia had married in Scotland and her husband came out too.
Rachel, nee CARR 1869-1939 and Carl Friedrich BEITZ 1872-1906 were married on the 12 August 1884 at St.Paul's Church of England, Roma, Queensland.all born in Queensland were:-
1.Minnie BEITZ 1889 - 1941 m Charles Herbert EATHER 1872-1942 in 1905 the son of Thomas EATHER 1843-1900 and Jane BARNETT 1845-1932.
The children of this marriage were:-
Isabel Victoria EATHER 1906 ? xxxx
Charles Herbert Leslie EATHER 1908 ? 1986 m. Laura May DALEY 1911-1974
Walter Barnett EATHER 1909 ? 1999 m. Alfreda Jean KENT 1911-2006
Warwick George EATHER 1913 ? 1914
2.Francis Frederick BEITZ 1891 -1926 m. Florence Joan HACKER 1888-1919 the daughter of Charles HACKER and Myra BYRD, in Roma, Queensland, in 1912 they had one child Doris Irene BEITZ 1919 ? 2003 Florence died 30 January 1919 in Brisbane. Francis Frederick next married Olive May KENNEDY 1893-xxxx at Brisbane in 1919 this couple had two children; Francis James Beitz 1921 ? 2007 and Leslie George Beitz 1929 ? 1929
3.Charles Frederick BEITZ 1893-1944 m. Norah BOWDEN 1892-1975 in Queensland in 1915.
The children (I have found) from this marriage were:-
Irene Cecilia Beitz 1916 ? 1982
William David Beitz 1917 ? 1975
Gordon Thomas Beitz 1921 ? 1942
Charles Bernard Beitz 1922 ? 1985
Harold John Beitz 1926 ? 1987
Joan Esme Beitz 1930 ? 1987
4.Rachel Ann BEITZ 1895-1985 m. William Munro HENDERSON 1889-1982
5.William Frederick BEITZ 1897-1917 Killed in Action 4 March 1917, France
6.Henry Frederick Carl BEITZ 1898-1951 m. Dorothy Margaret Louisa MURRAY 1901-1953 in Queensland in 1923. A son of this marriage was Mervyn Henry Norman Beitz 1925 ? 2002
7.Ernest Frederick Joseph BEITZ 1901-1926 m. Violet Emily GRIEVE 1900-xxxx in Queensland in 1921
8.Allan John Frederick BEITZ 1905-1944 m. Julia Mary KNOWLES in Queensland in 1924
In 1910 at Queensland the widow, Rachel BEITZ nee CARR next married Robert KIRBY, born in 1859 at Easington Yorkshire, England. The son of John Kirby 1818-1892 and Mary Ann DOBSON 1826-1895. This marriage ended when Robert died at Roma, Queensland in 1918.
The photograph from the Australian War Memorial is Private (Pte) Henry Frederick Beitz, 49th Battalion, of Brisbane, Qld, 379 Pte William Frederick Beitz, 41st Battalion, of Roma, Qld, and their mother Mrs Rachel Kirby. Henry and William were station hands prior to enlisting on 14 January 1916. Pte Henry Beitz embarked from Sydney with the 2nd Reinforcements on board SS Hawkes Bay on 20 April 1916. He was wounded in action in France on 4 April 1917 and returned to Australia in October 1919. Pte William Beitz embarked with the 41st Battalion from Sydney on board HMAT Demosthenes (A64) on 18 May 1916. He died, aged 20, on 4 March 1917 of wounds received in action in France.
My great grandmother Theresa LOVELEE was born at 'Mollee', Wee Waa, on the banks of the Namoi in New South Wales in 1865 the eldest of nine children to Thomas LOVELEE 1840-1941 who also owned the Narrabri Meat Works and his wife Margaret, nee MCNAMARA 1842-1904 Margaret was a shcool teacher at the first school in Narrabri.
Alfred McAlpin EATHER,commonly known as 'Mack' a Stock and Station Agent from Narrabri,was instantly attracted to Theresa's sultry beauty and after a courtship of only two months he and Theresa LOVELEE married on the 25 December 1891.
Mack had been born at 'Henriendi' on the Namoi,the youngest son of ten children to Charles EATHER 1827-1891 and Eliza HOUGH 1825-1870, the daughter of Peter HOUGH 1776-1833 and Mary, nee WOOD the daughter of John WOOD 1765-1845
The children of the marriage Between Theresa and Mack were:-
1. Alfred Charles EATHER 1892 ? 1892
2. Colin Charles EATHER 1894 ? 1966 married Sarah Josephine MCKEE 1894-1937, the daughter of Edward William MCKEE 1855-1930 and Sarah Mary HALL 1862-1938 Daughter of Patrick William Hall1821-1900
3. Kenneth Thomas McAlpin EATHER 1896 ? 1898
4. Ernest Herbert Edward EATHER 1898 ? 1898
5. Infant twin Stillborn EATHER 1898 ? 1898
After the difficult birth of the twins Theresa died on the 1 April 1898. She is buried at the Narrabri Old General Cemetery.
After the funeral Mack walked away, that day, never to be heard of again.
My grandfather Colin Charles EATHER, the only surviving child was raised by his step grandmother, the second wife of Charles EATHER 1827-1891, Martha Mary RIDGE 1843-1920 the daughter of John Ridge 1850-1867 and Charlotte Margaret COBCROFT 1820-1906
This isn't genealogy but a little bit about our interesting history.
My aunt told me, owning an air-raid bag and doing the drills was a marvellous adventure which lasted about a week then it became a chore and many bags were left at home or on the bus.
Nah, children haven't changed
World War Two was a difficult time for children. Some children didn't see their father for long periods of time and others would never see their father again. Many children were evacuated from England to Australia or from cities to country towns. Some pets had to be put down because of the lack of food due to rationing. School children contributed to the war effort by collecting rubber, paper and saucepans. Our empty toothpaste tubes were taken to school for scrap metal collections. There were also strict rules about wasting paper.
Many teachers left their jobs to join up. The return to school at the beginning of 1942 was delayed by two weeks while trenches were being dug in all the school grounds. Pupils were taught the procedures for moving into the trenches. Air-raid drills were performed regularly and children had to take their own air-raid bag to school containing all the items they needed for emergency.
The photo below shows children at a Sydney kindergarten practicing their air-raid drill. The headgear was designed to muffle the sound of explosions, protect their teeth and prevent them from biting their tongues.
Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 Record for Mary Gale
*see photo below.married 1936 St.Pancras
In the 1851 England Census her Edward and children in March, Cambridgshire:-
Name: Mary Miller
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Spouse's Name: Edward Miller
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Hartford, Huntingdonshire, England
Civil parish: March
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Miller 40 born at March, Cambridgshire. occupation hard to read
looks like Brewer and ??
Mary Miller 38
Charles Miller 13 March, Cambridgshire
Fred Miller 10 "
Mary E Miller 3 "
Frances Mary Miller 1 "
Sarah Dacher 24 Servant
Mary Ann Sutton 18 Servant
1. The document containing evidence of the missing link in your research has been lost due to fire, flood or war.
2. The keeper of the vital records you need will just have had an argument with a previous genealogist.
3. Your great, great grandfather's obituary states that he died leaving no issue.
4. The town clerk you wrote in desperation, and finally convinced to give to you the information you need, can't write legibly, and doesn't have a copying machine.
5. The will you need is in the safe on board the "Titanic."
6. The spelling of your European ancestor's name bears no relationship to its current spelling or pronunciation.
7. Copies of old newspapers have holes which only occur on last names.
8. No one in your family tree ever did anything noteworthy, they always
rented property, never sued, never went to gaol or were never named in anyone's will.
9. You learned that great aunt Matilda's executor just sold her life's
collection of family genealogical materials to a flea market dealer.
10. Yours is the ONLY last name not found among the three billion in the world-famous Mormon archives in Salt Lake City.
11. Ink fades and paper deteriorates at a rate inversely proportional to the value of the data recorded.
12. The 37 volume, 16,000 page history of your county of origin isn't
13. The critical link in your family tree is named "Smith."
14. No matter how large the collection of special records, the one you are searching for is NEVER there!
15. You finally send away for that necessary certificate, and your aunt tells you she's had the original in a box under her bed for years.
16. The box of family photographs, you found in uncle Edgar's house after he died, have no names or dates on them
17. Your aunt can remember exactly how many times you missed sending her a birthday card, but not why her father went in gaol.
18. Everyone that shares your last name, but is not related is listed in great detail, your ancestor has nothing.
19. The family Bible that contains all the names you are researching was given to a person who doesn't care who any of his relatives are, and either misplaced, sold at a garage sale, or gave away the family Bible to his neighbor who is collecting Bibles to be sent to a mission in a non-English speaking nation.
20. The elderly great-aunt who could help you fill in the missing pieces says, "I don't believe in dredging up the past" and changes the subject - again.
Some of the above laws I found in The Hawkesbury Crier
of June 2006 (archived) author is unknown
The rest have been added by Family Tree Circle members
Charlotte Bond JOHNSON was born at Hamilton's Gully near Lavington, New South Wales. Her mother was Eliza NORRIS b:1843 in Frome,Somerset, England and died in 1922 at Albury New South Wales. Eliza was the 4th daughter of 7 children born to James NORRIS b:1813 in Somerset, England and died at Lavington NSW on the 3 August 1872 buried in Albury.
James NORRIS married in 1832 at Tellisford, Charlotte GEORGE, Charlotte was born in Tellisford on the 27 November 1808 and died at Lavington,nsw on 12 January 1885 she too is buried at Albury. Her parents were Thomas GEORGE and Mary ANDREWS.
The children of James NORRIS and Charlotte GEORGE were:-
Mary Ann NORRIS 1833 - 1920 Arthur NORRIS 1838 - 1898
Elizabeth Betsy NORRIS 1841 - 1923 Eliza NORRIS 1843 - 1922
Hannah NORRIS 1847 - Louisa NORRIS 1849 -
Sarah NORRIS 1851 - 1881
Eliza NORRIS married Frederick JOHNSON at Albury in 1864 they had 4 daughters ;-
Charlotte Bond JOHNSON 1864 -
NSW REG. 4544/1864 JOHNSON CHARLOTTE B FREDERICK ELIZA ALBURY
Charlotte married Charles Henry BRADY at Corowa, NSW in 1891
NSW Reg. 3571/1891 BRADY CHARLES JOHNSON CHARLOTTE COROWA
Eliza Bond JOHNSON 1868 -
NSW Reg. 5136/1868 JOHNSON ELIZA B FREDERICK ELIZA ALBURY
Eliza Bond JOHNSON married Arthur CLARK in Albury in 1892
NSW Reg. 1909/1892 CLARK ARTHUR JOHNSON ELIZA ALBURY
Hannah Bond JOHNSON 1870 - 1955
NSW Reg. 5554/1870 JOHNSON HANNAH B FREDERICK ELIZA ALBURY
Hanna Bond JOHNSON married Francisco (Frank) ROMERO 1888 in Albury
NSW Reg. 3581/1888 ROMERO FRANK JOHNSON HANNAH ALBURY
Mary Bond JOHNSON 1872 - 1964
NSW Reg. 5652/1872 JOHNSON MARY B FREDERICK ELIZA ALBURY
Mary Bond Johnson married James F WELLS in Albury in 1892
NSW Reg. 1939/1892 WELLS JAMES F JOHNSON MARY ALBURY
Frederick JOHNSON died in Albury in 1879.
NSW Reg. 3831/1879 JOHNSON FRED JOHN DIED ALBURY ALBURY
Eliza in 1889 went on to marry Frederick FUGGER born 1859 somewhere around Canberra. He died at Albury He was the son of Christian Friedrich FUGGER 1829-1891 and Christine BENZ 1829-1891 both from Wurtemburg, Germany both buried in Albury,NSW
NSW Reg. 3564/1889 FUGGER FREDERICK JOHNSON ELIZA ALBURY
Eliza FUGGER nee NORRIS formerly JOHNSON died in 1922 in Albury, NSW
NSW Reg. 3501/1922 FUGGER ELIZA JAMES CHARLOTTE ALBURY
* note. On the 15 June 1909 Lavington a suburb north of Albury was officially named, having previously been known as Black Range.
** The Greville's postal list of 1872-Albury has Frederick Johnson listed as a farmer at Hamilton's Gully
The children of Edmund Amyes b:1812 Corely,Shropshire and baptised 20 March 1812 at Corely, Shropshire. Father Thomas Amyes. Mother Frances. Source-B&M&D at FamilySearch.Org. and Elizabeth ICK b:1820 at Stoke,Shropshire, England
Now found some trees that suggest Edmund's mother (Frances) maiden name also was ICK can find no documentary proof.
Now Edmund Amyes had two sons to a woman Mary Ann before he married Elizabeth ICK they were Charles AMYES b:1839 at Norely, Herefordshire. and Edmund b:1841 at Great Whitely, Worcestershire. Mary Ann born abt 1815 in Worcestershire, died in Martley, Worcestershire.
The first child of Robert Henry, was Clara AMYES was born in Hartley. I can't find a spouse for her.
The second child, Emily AMYES b:1847 in Shrawley, Worcestershire married Edmund Marriott DAWE on the 2 September 1878 at Canterbury, NZ. They had 2 children:- Laura Elizabeth Sophia Dawe 1879 ? Edgar Harold Selwyn Dawe 1881 ?
The third child Alice AMYES b:1847 at Wolverhampton, Staffordshire married Robert JOHNSTONE in NZ in 1870 The children of this marriage were:-
Robert Henery Johnstone 1873 ? Emily Jane Johnstone 1875 ?
Albert Edmund Johnstone 1876 ? Alice Johnstone 1878 ?
Louisa Johnstone 1879 ? Maude May Johnstone 1882 ?
Robert Alexander Johnstone 1884 ? William John Johnstone 1887 ?
4th child Robert Henry AMYES b:June 1850 at Enville, Staffordshire, married Cornelia DAWS 18 October 1878 the children of this marriage were:-
5th Child Alfred AMYES b:Dec.1851, Wolverhampton,Staffordshire married Elizabeth Ann HANCOCK 1853-1928 on the 26 April 1882 the children of this marriage were :-
Thomas Reginald Amyes 1883 ? Alfred Cuthbert Amyes 1884 ?
Arthur Edmund Amyes 1886 ? Mary Olive Gwendoline Amyes 1891 ? Constance Sylvia Amyes 1896 ?
Alfred died on 7 October 1941 and is buried at Timaru Cemetery, NZ
6th child, Edward Burton AMYES b:Sept 1853 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire . married Maria Oxley in 1881 in NZ. children of this marriage were:-
Henry Edward Amyes 1882 ? Ernest Oxley Amyes 1884 ?
Pearl Elizabeth Amyes 1887 ?
7th child Joseph Owen AMYES b:June 1855 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, married twice. firstly to Amy Florence White PARSONS 1876-1917 at Lyttleton, Canterbury NZ on the 9 September 1897. His second wife was Jessie Maria MCLAY whom he married at Canterbury NZ on 2 June 1921
8th Child Selina Eliza AMYES b:June 1856 at Bridgnorth, Shropshire. married Robert Kirtley OXLEY in NZ in 1876. The children of this marriage were:-
Hubert Kirtley Oxley 1877 ? Robert Antony Amyes Oxley 1878 ?
Minnie Victoria May Oxley 1880 ? Kenderdine Owen Sidney Oxley 1887 ?Juanita Violet Ann Oxley 1889 ?
Waikouaiti Collins Preece Oxley 1893 ? Lulu Moss Myrtle Oxley 1895 ? Alma Gwendoline Hidderington Oxley 1898 ?
9th Child Sidney Herbert AMYES b:Sept 1857 at Bridgnorth, Shropshire married Maria SMART b:1861, On the 26 March 1890 at Irwell, Canterbury NZ. Children of this marriage were:-
Harold Cyril Amyes 1891 ? Herbert Westby Amyes 1894 ? Clarence Gordon Amyes 1897 ? Mabel Eileen Vesta Amyes 1900 ?
10th Child, Edmund Philemore Ick AMYES b:March 1859 at Bridgnorth, Shropshire. married Annie Jane GIBB 1866-1910 at Christchurch on the 13 April 1898. Children from this marriage were:-
Stanley Leslie Edmund Amyes 1899 ? 1957
Albert Ernest Amyes 1904 ? 1904
Edmund died 9 February 1943 and is buried at Bromley Cemetery,Christchurch, NZ
11th child Precilla b:January 1861 at Bridgnorth Shropshire died around the end of 1862
Edmund AMYES died on the 30 November 1900 at Irwell, Canterbury, New Zealand
His wife Elizabeth died 12 March 1892 at Hornby, Canterbury, New Zealand. Both had arrived in New Zealand with their children in 1862.
Up until last year, the majority of Eather family research claimed Amy E GUEST who was born on the 6 February 1862 at Muswellbrook, New South Wales married Somerset John VON STURMER. Using this marriage Registration as reference:-
5274/1900 STURMER SOMERSET J V GUEST AMY E SYDNEY
5274/1900 STURMER SOMERSET J VON GUEST AMY E SYDNEY
5274/1900 VON STURMER SOMERSET J GUEST AMY E SYDNEY
5274/1900 VONSTURMER SOMERSET J GUEST AMY E SYDNEY
It wasn't until last year that my research proved conclusively that in fact Somerset John VON STURMER married Amy Elvina GUEST the daughter of the late Henry George GUEST on 25 July 1900 at St Andrews Cathedral. I researched this family thoroughly and there is no doubt whatsoever.
Amy Elvina GUEST died 1901 in Paddington.
Then on the 11 December 1907 at All Saints Petersham Somerset VON STURMER married Bertha Amelia PODMORE, the youngest daughter of A S PODMORE of Narranderra. This marriage being performed by the bride's uncle J H MULLINS.
Once again 4 AMY Von STURMER death registrations-due to spelling differences:
10663/1901 STURMER AMY E VON HENRY C ELVINA PADDINGTON
10663/1901 STURMER (VON) AMY E HENRY G ELVINA PADDINGTON
10663/1901 (VON) AMY E STURMER HENRY G ELVINA PADDINGTON
10663/1901 STURMER(VON) AMY E HENRY G ELVINA PADDINGTON
My evidence is solid and conclusive with many many newspaper articles, certificates and hours of VON STURMER research to back it up.
Having proven the error, and alerted other researchers, I am still faced with the task of finding out exactly what happened to Amy E GUEST the daughter of Laban Thomas GUEST and Charlotte nee EATHER 1836-1888.
Many documents show her as Amy E GUEST. Family history research says the E was for EATHER.
So, Familytreecircles I need a death for Amy E GUEST and /or a marriage if there was one. Her father Laban Thomas GUEST 1835-1903 dropped the Laban and usually went by the name Thomas GUEST.
This is her birth registration:-
10707/1862 GUEST AMY E THOMAS CHARLOTTE MUSWELLBROOK
Below is a photograph of her, You can't see it here but there is a ring on the third finger of her left hand. My 1st cousin 3x removed.