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From looking at the names in the records, I was astounded in the similarities in given names with my immigrant family. They were in America already when these children were born, but the family names are there. I think I may have found where my Ginty family originated from. The Sligo reference on Michael Guinty's military records was a clue. Then I searched the Sligo Tithes list, and found the parish with the Ginty names. Now the baptism records. I just have to find more proof. But I think my family came from Kilmacteige Parish, County Sligo, Ireland.
Baptized Date: 2/22/1857
Parents: Thomas Ginty and Margaret McGuinness
Sponsors: James McGuinness , Catherine Carty
Baptized Date: 4/14/1857
Parents: Owen Ginty and Bridget Kilroy
Sponsors: James Ginty , Honor Quinn
Baptized Date: 10/19/1857
Parents: Pat Ginty and Mary Cowley
Sponsors: Peter Ginty , Mary O'Hara
Baptized Date: 4/4/1858
Parents: Bryan Ginty and Bridget Brett
Sponsors: Michael Ginty , Anne Lavin
Baptized Date: 6/12/1858
Parents: James Ginty and Mary Marren
Sponsors: John Marren , Anne Ginty
Baptized Date: 6/17/1858
Parents: Pat Ginty and Mary O'Hara
Sponsors: Pat O'Hara , Kathy O'Hara
Baptized Date: 9/15/1858
Parents: Pat Ginty and Mary Ginty
Sponsors: Ned Quinn , Margaret Morgan
Baptized Date: 5/7/1859
Parents: Tom Ginty and Mary McGuinness
Sponsors: John McGuinness , Kathy Ginty
Baptized Date: 8/25/1858
Parents: Ned Ginty and Mary O'Hara
Sponsors: Pat Ginty , Anne Morgan
Baptized Date: 11/27/1859
Parents: James Ginty and Mary Ginty
Sponsors: Michael Ginty , Bridget Murphy
Baptized Date: 2/12/1860
Parents: James Ginty and Anne Grady
Sponsors: Mary Battle , Mary Stenson
Baptized Date: 6/26/1860
Parents: Pat Ginty and ?? O'Hara
Sponsors: Pat Ginty , Anne Ginty
Baptized Date: 6/30/1860
Parents: James Ginty and Mary Marren
Sponsors: Michael Marren , Bridget Stenson
Baptized Date: 7/15/1860
Parents: Michael Ginty and Kate Howley
Sponsors: Thomas Howley , Kate Howley
Baptized Date: 10/1/1860
Parents: Pat Ginty and Mary Connelly
Sponsors: Peter Connolly , Mary Neary
Baptized Date: 01/12/1861
Parents: Michael Ginty and O'Hara Ellsie
Sponsors: Pat Ginty , Margaret O'Hara
Baptized Date: 02/02/1861
Parents: Bryan Ginty and Brett Bridget
Sponsors: Pat Heneghan , Grace Devitt
Baptized Date: 05/04/1861
Parents: Pat Ginty and Quinn Mary
Sponsors: Edward Quinn , Bridget Quinn
Baptized Date: 05/22/1861
Parents: James Ginty and Ginty Mary
Sponsors: Anthony Ginty , Mary Ginty
Baptized Date: 08/20/1861
Parents: James Ginty and Marren Mary
Sponsors: James Marren , Anne Nicholson
Baptized Date: 09/22/1861
Parents: Denis Ginty and Gallagher Sarah
Sponsors: Michael Gallagher , Ellen Gallagher
Baptized Date: 02/19/1862
Parents: Pat Ginty and Grady Anne
Sponsors: Martin Grady , Mary ??
Baptized Date: 01/01/1863
Parents: Patrick Ginty and O'Hara Sarah
Sponsors: Denis ?? , Mary Howley
Baptized Date: 02/20/1863
Parents: Michael Ginty and O'Hara Atty
Sponsors: James McDonnell , Anne O'hara
Baptized Date: 04/05/1863
Parents: Denis Ginty and Gallagher Sarah
Sponsors: Michael Gallagher , Kate Kilbride
LDS Baptism Record 12792.
From the County Sligo Tithe Applotment list for Kilmacteige Parish, Co. Sligo, 1824:
Kilmactigue 273 Thomas Mulvand
274 Martin Quinn & son
275 James OHara
276 Michael OHara
277 Anthony McIntire
278 Thomas Finn
279 Edward Evans
280 John Hegarty
281 Patrick Brett
282 Denis Ginty
283 Denis Ginty
284 Patrick Ginty & son
Could this Patrick Ginty & Son be my ggggrandfather and his father? There are a couple of Denis Ginty's there too. Michael Guinty's brother's name was Denis, and Irish families tended to name their children after relatives.
fromt he archives of the RI Argus/Moline Dispatch newspapers. The Guinty mentioned here is most likely Michael Guinty:
RUTHHART COLUMN WILLIAM JOBE
We must never forget the contributions these men, and men like them throughout history, made to their nation and their community.
Tale of Lt. Jobe is just
a small part of the story
Isn't history amazing?
Each time I pen something of a historical nature, I hear from people offering information that would have been helpful BEFORE I wrote the article if only I had known where to look. That was certainly the case with the recent series of articles of Lt. William Jobe, a Civil War soldier from Rock Island.
Lt. Jobe was a printer at The Argus who, when the Civil War broke out, was among the first to enlist to fight for his country. He survived some of the bloodiest battles of the war and sent The Argus detailed accounts of the fighting and life in the army. Stories featuring highlights from those accounts appeared in The Argus in September.
Following the series of articles, a special memorial service was held at Chippiannock Cemetery to dedicate a new government grave marker for Lt. Jobe. Rock Island native and amateur Civil War historian Benton McAdams helped not only to research the life of Lt. Jobe, but also to plan the memorial service.
I've heard from a number of people since that series ran. Several are worthy of further mention.
One of the incidents which Lt. Jobe wrote about was the hanging of a Confederate spy at Pulaski, Tenn. Samuel Doak of Rock Island wrote to let me know that the spy was Samuel Davis, ``who has become quite a hero in the state of Tennessee.'' Mr. Doak knew because his great-grandfather, John W. N. Doak, was in the same company as Lt. Jobe and also wrote home about the incident.
``The state of Tennessee regards Davis as the Nathan Hale of the Confederacy,'' said Samuel Doak.
In his letter home, Mr. Doak wrote: ``To those who are led astray in an unjust cause and are yet honest, true and faithful to the cause and their friends, I have respect for them. A young rebel spy of this description was executed 27th last month in this town.
``Some soldiers or citizens had given him information as to our strength and size and position and he was on his way south with that information but unfortunately for him he was caught, brought back, tried and found guilty.
``When informed of his fate, he did not seem to care much. The general offered to pardon him if he would tell who have him the information, but this he refused to do. Just before going onto the scaffold the chaplain asked him if he had not better tell. This seemed to insult him. Said he, `Do you think I would betray a friend. No, I would die a thousand deaths first.'
``I stood near by him as I could get for the guard. He died like a soldier, a brave boy he was though a spy. I almost hated to see him die. I guess he was 21 years of age, hair, eyes and complexion dark, five foot six inches and weighed about 150 pounds. Samuel Davis was his name. His relatives live in Nashville.''
Mr. Doak's great-grandfather was with Lt. Jobe at Fort Donelson, Shiloh, Corinth, Lookout Mountain and the Battle for Atlanta. He came home in the fall of 1864 and died Oct. 17, 1865 at the age of 26.
His letter reminded me that although my series of articles focused on Lt. Jobe, there were many other local boys who fought with Company D of the 12th Illinois Infantry as well as with other units. While Lt. Jobe apparently has no relatives remaining in the area, many of the other soldiers may still have descendents in the area -- many of the names remain familiar.
The officers were respected men in the community, with names like Williams, Benson, McNeil, Beardsley, Lackey, Scheible, Gregg, Dimick, Hakes, Koehler, Hartley, Wagner and Daley.
The soldiers represented a variety of nationalities. Robert Koehler was from Rybrick, Prussia; George Applehaus from Amthof, Germany; Hugh Boyle from Darrah, Ireland; and Moses Bell from Scarsborough, England. There was John Bowen from Morganshire, N. Wales and Harrison Baker from Italy, Germany; John Godfrey from Lerncoveny, Sweden, and John H. Phillips from Cardigan, Wales. George Tomlinson was from York, Canada, and Michael Waddock from Wasford, Ireland. They came from all corners of the globe to settle in this country and this spot in the wilderness along the Mississippi; they all enlisted in the Union army right here in Rock Island.
Many were wounded. Men with names like Blodgett, Harrington, Denning, Durand, Bell, Gardner, Hollister, Specht, Brewer, Mayer, Newton, Fitzpatrick, Guinty, Gaston, Beardsley. But they were the lucky ones who survived some of the bloodiest battles fought on the face of this earth.
Others, like Russell Philleo of Port Byron, Lewellyn Williams of Coaltown, and Levi Greer and Thomas Miller of Rock Island, died on the field of battle in places like Shiloh and Corinth.
There were others, too, who served just as bravely in units other than Company D of the 12th Illinois. Their heroics are less available because they did not have an Argus printer and war correspondent like Lt. Jobe serving in their ranks.
I've also found since the Jobe series ran, that Company D lived on in ways other than just the writings of its lieutenant. During the 1960s and 1970s it was ``reactivated'' as a Civil War Reenactment unit headed by Richard Hamer of Moline.
The group itself, which had 27 members at its peak, collected detailed historical information on the 12th Illinois. Members of the reenacters group visited the battlefield sites and retraced the steps that local Illinois infantrymen walked more than a century ago.
Among the many pages of history in a fading scrapbook, Mr. Hamer produced a photo copy of a photo of a young Army lieutenant of the era. Mr. Hamer could not recall where the photo was copied, but was sure if it was among the memorabilia he must have been an officer of Company D.
It's likely that the photo is of either William Jobe or Robert Koehler, Mr. Hamer said. The two men, while contemporaries, did not always see eye to eye.
Lt. Koehler returned home from the war to run a tavern and serve as city clerk in Rock Island. Following the war he was often dispondent, lived what he complained was a miserable life, and had constant headaches. In 1893, after losing a political race, Mr. Hamer recalled, Mr. Koehler tried to commit suicide by cutting his wrists, but failed.
Until we can track down additional information on the photo of the young man who appears on this page, we can't be sure of his identity. We do know that Lt. Jobe wrote The Argus that he had his photo taken while stationed near Corinth, Miss., so this may be that photo. He also wrote that a photo had been taken of Company D as well.
Perhaps the story of William Jobe will continue to unfold. There may be others out there like Mr. Hamer and Mr. Doak with pieces of information to contribute. But regardless of how this story ends, we must never forget the contributions these men, and men like them throughout history, made to their nation and their community.
The Civil War and other conflicts, faded with time, seem more like tales from a story book than real-life trials that affected mens' lives, preserved this nation, and changed the lives of everyone who lives in it. The achievements of these men must never be forgotten.
Roger Ruthhart is managing editor of The Rock Island Argus."
I found this under a site called "Peabody, Ks families that arrived before 1920:
MANNING, Thomas b. 1820 and Mary HITT b. 1823. Arrived 1874 from Indiana. Farmer.
Children: William b. 1846 m. Margaret, Frank b. 1859, Emily b. 1862.
This sounds like William's family. But I looked these people on Rootsweb, and they don't have the same children.
Name: Thomas MANNING 1
Change Date: 28 AUG 2004
Birth: ABT 1819 in Indiana
Note: The 1850 Federal Census, Martin County, Indiana, Perry Twp, enumerated 9 August 1850, lists: Thomas Manning age 30, farmer; wife Mary age 26; dau. Sarah age 3; son Walter age 1; all born in Indiana. Listed with the family: Malcom Henry age 19, farmer, born in Indiana.
Marriage 1 Mary HITT b: ABT 1813 in Fauquier County, Virginia
Married: 05 JUN 1845 in Martin County, Indiana
Sarah MANNING b: ABT 1846 in Martin County, Indiana
Walter MANNING b: ABT 1848 in Martin County, Indiana
Her name was Sarah Elizabeth PIPER, she was born in 1882 in St Clair Co, Missouri. She was first married to a man named Haggar, they had a child, then she was widowed. She then married my ggrandfather Andrew Sherman Snodgrass. My grandmother, Maude Belle, was born in 1909.
The obituary for Margaret Beere Manning:
Peabody Gazette, Thursday, Feb. 14, 1901, page 5 col. 5
Obituary; Mrs. Margaret Manning was born Sep. 15, 1842 in the city of New York. Removed to Iowa in the year 1846, thence to the state of Kansas, Sep. 4, 1873. She was united in marriage the same year to William Manning. Eight children were born unto them, three sons and five daughters, all of whom survive their father and mother.
Death has visited the family the second time, the father having a a few years ago.
His widow, Margaret Manning, departed this life Feb. 7, 1801, at her home southeast of Peabody, in Butler county, Kansas, at the age of 58 years, 4 months and 22 day. Her death was sudden and a great surprise to the entire community, that dread disease, lagrippe being the cause. There were six children at her bedside when death came: Mrs. Maggie Bentz, Mrs. Jessie Guinty, Esther, Mamie, Edith and Willie.
Edward being in Iowa and Harry at school in Saline, did not arrive until after the mother's death.
The children were all present at the funeral services held at Fairplay M.P. Church, except little Edith who was very sick and not able to be present. One sister and a brother of deceased were also in attendance from Iowa.
Five of the children are members of the Fairplay Church and seven of them are members of the Sabbath school.
How sadly bereft are these dear children of a kind, patient and noble mother. The entire community mourn and sympathize with them. These children will ever revere the memory of a mother's love, who showed us all by her daily example what it is to be noble and good.
A large concourse of sympathizing friends attended the funeral, which was preached in the church from Psalms 39th chapter and 4th verse by Rev. W.H. Manary. Her remains were laid to rest beside those of her husband in Whitewater cemetery. May our Heavenly Father comfort all who mourn.
What is lagrippe?
This is the obituary for William Manning, father of Edith Manning:
Peabody Gazette-Herald, Peabody, Kansas, dated Sep. 19, 1895, page 5, col. 4
Obituary; Wm. Manning, one of the early settlers of this vicinity, died at his farm home, southeast of Peabody, on Thursday, the 12th inst., aged 50 years, 27 days. The deceased was born in St. Louis, and lived for many years in southeastern Iowa, from whence he moved here in 1873 and located on the farm. He was prominently and favorably known, and a large number of friends gathered to attend the last sad rites. The funeral was held at the Fairplay Church, Friday afternoon, Rev. J.L. McKay officiating, and the body was interred at the Stone Church Cemetery, in Summit township. The deceased leaves wife and eight children; three boys and five girls, who have the sympathy of all in their bereavement.
someone turned me on to this site, and it's a great source: RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project
I found my Manning/Beere family on this website.
1900 census Kansas Butler County
Manning, Margaret head fw Sept 1842 57 wd 26 8,8 NY Eng Scottland farmer
, Willis son mw Oct 1879 20 s KS MO NY
, Harry B. son mw May 1882 18 s KS MO NY
, Easter dau fw Sept 1884 15 s KS MO NY
, Mamie dau fw March 1886 14 s KS MO NY
, Edith dau fw Nov 1888 11 s KS MO NY
The birth year and month match, but there is no listing in this for William Manning. Did he die between 1888 and 1900?