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Thomas MANDERSON was the child of Hannah YOUNG and Thomas MANDERSON. Thomas married one of my ancestors Lillian CRUMP and then seemed to disappear.
As my search for Thomas has not been successful so far I have decided to focus on his mother to see if I can find a lead through that,
Hannah YOUNG was born 6 Jul 1840 England and married Thomas MANDERSON(born 1840) in Easington Durham, England. Hannah and Thomas had the following children, only three survived past the age of two years.
1. Infant b & d England
2. infant b & d England
3. infant b & d England
4. infant b & d England
5. infant b & d England
Hannah and Thomas arrived in Australia on the “Palmtree” leaving Liverpool on the 12/4/1866
6. Mary Ann b. Sept 1867 (married Henry GANNAWAY b.1866 w/hills) and moved to WA
7. George b. 1870 d. 5/3/1870 Eaglehawk
8. Thomas b.1871 d, 14/8/1872
9. Peter b. 1873 Nerring d. June 1873 Eaglehawk
10. William b. 1875 Eaglehawk m.1896 to Christina WILLIAMS d. 4/7/1910 Broken Hill [William was still living there in 1911]
11. Thomas b. 1877 Eaglehawk d. unknown m. 1903 to Lillian Crump
12. Elizabeth Jane b.1883 Eaglehawk d.28/9/1880 Eaglehawk
13. Hannah b. 1883 Eaglehawk d.22/2/1885 Eaglehawk
Thomas MANDERSON b. 1840 d.16/8/1895. In the Argus on Friday 6 December 1895 it was announced that Letters of administration have been granted by the registrar to the estates for .... Thomas Manderson for 200 pounds. ... amongst other names.
It appears that Hannah also brought two lots of land 58/59F (Eaglehawk) on 22/10/1895, this still has to be verified (source:-Annette O'Donohue & Bev Hanson, Eaglehawk & District Pioneer Register Volume 3 J ~ M (Maiden Gully, Vic. : A.M. O'Donohue, 2003)) Eventually locating these land titles and finding out when they were sold might help to locate when Hannah moved out of the area.
Hannah remarried two years later in 1897 to John Laughton in Footscray 1897
We know that she was in Eaglehawk in
• 1903 where she and her husband were living in Caldwald St Eaglehawk
• 1909 where she appears to be living without her husband in Junction St Eaglehawk
But between 1910 until her death in 1919 we are not sure where she was living.
Hannah died 18 Oct 1919 at McDonald Street, Coolgardie, Western Australia, which is where her daughter (Mary Ann Gannaway nee Manderson) lived.
Published in the Western Argus (Kalgoorlie, WA Tuesday 28 October 1919
“ LAUGHTON.-On October 18, at i .McDonald-st., Coolgardie, Hannah (better known as "Grandma"), dearly beloved mother of Mary Ann and Henry Gannaway, and grandma of Tom and Maggie Gannaway (of Bunbury), and Henry and Emily (Wagin), and Lottie and Bede Chesher (Coolgardie), and great-grandma to Bonnie, Phyllis, Eva, Irene and May, and sister of M. A. McLean. Aged 79 years and 3 months. Deeply mourned. “
Anyone got any clues or pearls of wisdom that might help shed light of either Hannah YOUNG or her son Thomas MANDERSON?
After much searching I have now located Thomas Crump's first wife.
Thomas Crump died on the 13 Apr 1874 in Hawthorn, Victoria, Australia. On his death certificate it was stated that he was born in “Kent, England” and had been living for “32 year in Victoria” .
Based on time lived in Victoria he would have arrived around 1841/2. His death certificate also stated that he had been married twice although the name of his first wife was not listed, as particulars were not known at the time.
The only Thomas Crump arriving in Australia in 1841/2 was on the Marquis of Hasting on 4 February 1841, listed as being married and was accompanied by his wife Rebecca Crump. On Rebecca’s record it was listed that she was formerly known as Underhill presumably her maiden name as her father’s surname is also given as an Underhill.
According to the Maidstone church records there was a marriage between a Thomas Crump and a Rebecca Underhill on the 15 Nov 1834 .
Seven years later that couple were migrating to Australia, seven years after arriving Rebecca died on 28 Aug 1848 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. There appears to have been no English or Australian born children to the couple, according to Rebecca's migration papers her state of bodily health was “rather delicate”. Both were Wesleyan Methodists.
Two years later Thomas married Selina Wheeler on 30 Dec 1850 in the Weslyan Church, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Thomas CRUMP was born on 22nd November 1813 and baptised a month later on 2nd January 1814 Church of England, Goudhurst, Kent. He was the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Crump late a servant of Mr W. Mynn, the father was listed as William Mynn Jnr a farmer, both were from the parish.
William Mynn Jnr did not marry Elizabeth, when Thomas was christened Elizabeth was referred to as the “late a servant of W. Mynn” which indicates that she was no longer working for the family. It appears that William married Susannah Heath on 17 Dec 1825 Kensington and Chelsea, Middlesex, England
A few years after Thomas’ christening Ann Crump marries William Startup, according to the IGI William Startup and an Ann Crump on the 10 Feb 1816 in Tudeley, Kent, England.
Now the hunt is on to find out more about Thomas' mother and father. Any one have any helpful hints?
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