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Looking for Thomas Dutton who died in 1858

Below is Mary Ann Dillon's second marriage, she was previously married to Thomas Dutton, who according to the 2 transcribed marriage certificates below he appears to have died in 1858.

I have not been able to find his death, according to the Victorian BDM site he did not die in Victoria, Australia

Would love to make contact with anyone who has any information on Thomas Dutton or his wife or only surviving child Catherine Dutton.

Transcription of Marriage Certificate for Mary Ann Dutton to John Edwards 1868
Citation:- Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, Marriage Certificate Mary Ann Dutton & John Edwards, Mary Ann Dutton & John Edwards, 4649 yr 1868

When & Where- Fifteenth October 1868 Registrars Office Geelong
Name and Surname of Parties Groom- John Edwards
Name and Surname of Parties Bride - Mary Ann Dutton
Condition of Parties Groom - Bachelor
Condition of Parties Bride - Widow 1858
Children by each former marriage Groom-
Children by each former marriage Bride - 1 living 3 dead
Birth Place Groom - Liverpool England
Birth Place Bride - London
Rank or Profession Groom - Fisherman
Rank or Profession Bride -
Age Groom - 42
Age Bride - 41
Residence Present Groom - Little Ryrie St Geelong
Residence Usual Groom - Little Ryrie St Geelong
Residence Present Bride - Little Ryrie St Geelong
Residence Usual Bride - Little Ryrie St Geelong
Parents Names Grooms Father - William Edwards
Parents Names Grooms Mother includes maiden name - Sarah Walker
Parents Names Bride Father - John Dillon
Parents Names Bride Mother includes maiden name - Catherine Kelly
Fathers Rank or Profession Groom - Joiner
Fathers Rank or Profession Bride - Sugar Baker
Married by - James Duncan
Married at Registrar of Marriages Office at Geelong
Marriage solemnised according to the rites of - Schedule B
Groom signature present - yes
Brides signature present - yes
Witness 1 - Mary Bowells
Witness 2 - unable to read

The First Marriage for Mary Ann Dillon was in England

Transcription of Marriage certificate of Mary Ann Dillon & Thomas Henry Dutton
Citation:- General Register Office, England, Marriage Certificate Thomas Henry Dutton & Mary Ann Dillon (Quarter 1 Year 1848 Vol 2 Page 173)

1848 Marriage solemnized at the Parish church in the Parish of St Giles with Cripplegate in the city of London
When Married - Feb 22
Name and Surname Groom - Thomas Henry Dutton
Name and Surname Bride - Mary Ann Dillon
Age Groom - Full
Age Bride - Full
Condition Groom - Drover
Condition Bride -
Residence at the Time of Marriage Groom - 17 Green Hills Rents
Residence at the Time of Marriage Bride - White Cross St
Father's name and surname Groom - William Dutton
Father's name and surname Bride - John Dillon
Rank or Profession Father Groom - White Smith
Rank or Profession Father Bride - Sugar Baker
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by banns by m? H.B. Foster
This Marriage was solemnized between us Thomas Henry Dutton X Mary A Dillon in the presence of us James Barttam X Mary Barttam

Post Edited and Updated 28/12/2015

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Lookup at Sandgate Cemetery, Newcastle, New South Wales,Australia

Edwin Knight JACKA
Death: 4 Jun 1929 - Hamilton, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: 6 Jun 1929 - Sandgate Cemetery, Newcastle, New South Wales,Australia

Is anyone able to visit or do a look up for Sandgate Cemetery for Edwin Knight JACKA and to find out if his grave as a headstone.
Any help would be great appreciated

Thanks, Sandra

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Martha Carbiss parents and her family of Origin

This article was originally published in Familytreecircles on 23 Oct 2007 and was updated on 13 Sept 2016.

Martha Carbis is my 3 x great grandmother, on her Australian death certificate it states that her father's name was Richard Carbis and her Mother was Ann unknown. Her father was a Mariner according to the death certificate. Martha married my 3 x great grandfather in 1812 in Paul, Cornwall.

As death certificates are not a reliable source of information, John Carbis (from the U.K) who runs the One Name Society Data for Carbis World Wide, was contacted as another possible source of information. He had in his possession the Marriage Banns entry for John Bassett and Martha Carbis of Paul Parish. On inspection of the Banns entry it was discovered that one of the witnesses on the Banns was a Daniel Drew.
Further research was then conducted to try and find a Carbis family whose mothers maiden name was Drew. When searching the IGI I used the First name of Ann married to a man with the surname Carbis to look for possible children. Eventually, I found a William Carbis who had married an Ann Drew who had amongst their children a Martha Carbis who had the same year of birth as my 3xgreatgrandmother.

William Carbis and Ann Drew had five children, all were baptised in the Paul Parish Church

i. Ann Drew CARBIS (1784- )
ii.William CARBIS (1789- )
iii. Martha CARBENCE (1792- )
iv. Martha CARBIS (Cir 1793-1882) (my 3xgreatgrandmother)
v. Richard CARBIS (1797- )

The idea that my 3xgreatgrandmother Marthas father was William Carbis rather than Richard Carbis is supported by the following 3 points:

1.The change of her father's Christian name was an attempt to hide family Convict connections.
A family story through the generations was that one of the early Bassett brothers (which generation this concerned was not clear) was charged for horse stealing in Cornwall but managed to escape to France/America and was never caught. Following this lead led us to look for some evidence of criminal activity.

The real story turned out to be much more interesting than the family legend after all.

In an article that appeared in The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser and another article on the 7th April 1815 in the Royal Gazette on the 22nd April 1815 it appears that William Carbis Marthas father was involved in sheep stealing in 1813.
William Carbis, sen. William Carbis jun. and Francis Bassett, a father, son and son-in-law, were indicted for stealing two ewe sheep belonging to Miss Borlase, of Madron, in December 1812
"The bill" was found by the Grand Jury in the Crown Bar during the Lent Assizes in 1813. However, the proceedings were suspended as the all the accused had absconded. According to a report in the "West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser", when the constables went to arrest them they were unable to execute their warrants, as all three men had gone to sea.

Based on the newspaper story we were able to link Martha with her family as demonstrated below through their connections with William Carbis (in the newspaper referred as William Carbis sen.) and his five children with his wife Ann Drew the 3 connections are confirmed.

It is hard to know if this was her father’s first foray into criminal activity. Martha was married 9 months before this event took place and perhaps the shame was so great for Martha that she changed her father’s name, using her youngest brother’s first name to conceal her relationship? The white lie helped to distance hers from her father’s misdeeds (?). Once in Australia people were unaware of the families criminal and convict connections and only a vague tale of horse theft remained attributed to no-one in particular as a small reminder of what had been left behind.

2. Naming Patterns of the times as explained below were common practice between 1700 and 1875. Both the Carbis and Bassett families seem to have used them as evidenced by certain names recurring down through the generations. Using these patterns working back from the children of John Bassett and Martha Carbis it is quite possible that Martha's fathers name is William Bassett.

Naming Patterns 1700-1875
The first Son was named after the fathers father (Marthas oldest son is John)
Second son named after mothers father (Marthas second son is William)
Third son named after the father
Fourth son named after fathers eldest brother
First daughter named after mothers mother
Second daughter named after fathers mother
Third daughter named after mother
Fourth daughter named after mothers eldest sister
Exceptions to the pattern occur when the naming system produced a duplication of names.
In that case ,the name was taken from the next on the list.
Another break in the pattern could be caused by a death.
If a child died in infancy, then the parents would name the subsequent new born the same name

Taken from: Tracing your Origins. By Angus Baxter.

3. The informant for the death certificate was not a family member, and would not have knowledge of the background of Martha Bassett nee Carbis.

Based on the above evidence I have come to the conclusion that Martha's parents were most likely William Carbis and Ann Drew of the Paul Parish, Cornwall.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has anything to add to my conclusions or wishes to dispute them. It would be great to add something more. Establishing connections between families and generations is very challenging, its very easy to make jumps in logic before I've realised what I'm doing.

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Martha Todman vs Walter Todman - a marital maintenance case.

Walter and Martha married on 16 Jan 1892 in All Saints Church, Saint Kilda, no address was given for Martha at the time, but Walter was living in Hawthorn according to the marriage certificate. From the time of his marriage, and for the birth of his first two children Walter worked as a blacksmith. Their eldest daughter, Martha Todman (later known as Ruby) arrived on 24th December in 1894 at the Women's hospital.

On the 14th September 1895 Walter Todman and his wife welcomed Ivy Florence Todman into the world. Life must have changed dramatically for the family by 1895, with 2 small children life must have been busy for the Todman household. The family had been living at 27 Arthur St, South Yarra, Victoria when Ruby was born. During the intervening 18 months between their first and second child the family had shifted to 3 Palmero Place, South Yarra , They may have also resided at Hancock St, South Melbourne for a short time as well.

Walter was still pursuing his inventions and continued to register new patents. In April 1894 he made an application for a patent for "an improved machine for saving gold" In October 1895 Walter was granted a patent for "An improved automatic check for venetian blinds." . He appears to have left his occupation as a Blacksmith and is working as a casual waiter perhaps to allow more time to focus on his inventions. But October 1895 saw the last of his applications for patents, earlier in that year in January he had even abandoned one.

Things appear to have hit boiling point for Martha as we next find the couple in the Prahran Police Court . Martha alleges that her husband Walter Todman left "her without any means of support at South Yarra on the 3rd inst." December, 1895. She had two children and "her husband was a job waiter and earned about 11 pound a month. Her parents were in England." The couple had a violent domestic argument, resulting in Walter being struck with a poker . It was resolved by the court an order being issued "for a I pound a week maintenance, and one surety of 25 pounds to be found for a due observance" She has been quoted as saying "her husband, who was a waiter, was in the habit of handing her his earnings each week, but on Sunday week be refused to give her any money, and since then she could not live with him on account of his temper and disgusting language."

After all this angst and excitement things appear to settle at least for the next few years until 1901.

For sources see Originally published at Link: Sandra's Ancestral Research Journal on the 4 October 2015

Mary NANCE Born Perranzubla, Cornwall, England Died Chewton, Victoria, Australia

Does anyone recognize the family of Mary Nance?
Parents Thomas Nance & Rebecca
Birth: 1805 - Perranzubla, Cornwall, England, UK
Death: 15 Aug 1878 - Chewton, , Victoria, Australia
Burial: 18 Aug 1878 - Chewton Cemetery, Chewton, , Victoria, Australia
1. She appeared on the census in 1841 in Wheal Hope, Perranzabuloe,England, United Kingdom.
1. Hezekiah Bennets, aged 20
2. Mary Bennets, aged 25
3. Mary Bennets, aged 1

2. She appeared on the census in 1851.
1. Hezekiah Bennets, aged 33, miner
2. Mary Bennets, aged 39
3. Nancey Bennets, aged 8
4. Rebecka Bennets, aged 2

3. Immigrated: 22 Jan 1856. the ship Australia leaving from Plymouth October 14th.arriving in South Australia on the 22 Jan 1856. (The South Australian Government Gazette 1866 p. 91 )
Listed under families
Bennets / Bennetts
Hezekiah 36 Miner 114/1 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall with family
Mary (George) 45
Rebecca 5
Mary 1
Listed under Single Women
Bennets / Bennetts Nancy 14 Servant 114/1 Perranzabuloe, Cornwall with parents

1. First marriage - Henry George 19 Dec 1836 - Kenwyn, Cornwall, England

2. Second marriage Hezekiah Bennetts (1818 - 26 Jan 1900) 1839 - Perranzabube, Cornwall, England, UK
1. Mary Bennetts (Cal 1840- )
2. Unknown Bennetts ( - )
3. Mary Jane Bennetts (Est 1842-Bef 1878)
4. Nancy Bennetts (Est 1842-Bef 1900)
5. Rebecka Bennetts (Est 1849-1912)
6. Mary Anne Bennetts (Est 1852-Bef 1878)

My Irish Williamsons

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My Lovell family were from Acton, Middlesex, and not from Compton Martin, Somerset, England as I had originally thought

When I began my research I had the parents of my Francis Lovell - William Lovell and Mary.
With nothing much more to go on I did a search in the census' and found a William and Mary Lovell in Compton Martin, Somerset, England. I decided to follow through on this line and in doing so found a whole clan of Lovell's living in the area but as I was to find out soon enough they weren't mine. Francis Lovell my direct connection to the family was nowhere to be found and far more elusive. Later I discovered that this was because I had unfortunately chosen the wrong family. The William and Mary I was looking for can be found in the Middlesex area of England(See below).

So now I am posting this new journal as a response to my own previous jounral about the Lovell family in Crompton Martin as way of correction. I'm still Interested in talking to anyone who might be related or want to share information.


William Lovell born about 1806 in Chalfont, Buckinghamshire, England and died: Jan Q 1870 - Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom

1841 Census
East Acton, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom.
( HO107; Piece 687; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Acton; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 22; Page: 11)
1. William Lovell, 40, Carman
2. Mary Lovell, 40
3. Ann Lovell, 15
4. William Lovell, 15
5. Francis Lovell, 13
6. Mary Lovell, 7
7. Sarah Borall 70
1851 Census
( HO107; Piece: 1699; Folio: 637; Page: 19)
East Acton, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom.
1. William Lovell, head, married, 56, A??ing Laundry
2. Mary Lovell, wife, mar, 54, Laundress
3. Frank Lovell, son U, 23, Apresting lab
4. Mary Lovell, daughter, U, 17, Laundress
3. He appeared on the census in 1871 in Kensington Workhouse, Kensington,
London, England, United Kingdom. (6) William was an inmate, his occupation
was labourer.

William Lovell married Mary Field (Abt 1797 - Jul Q 1874) in 1823 - Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England, United Kingdom and they had four children that I know of:-
1. Ann Lovell (Abt 1826- )
2. William Lovell (Abt 1826- )
3. Francis Lovell (Abt 1829- )
4. Mary Lovell (Abt 1834- )

Narrowing on in on Walter Todman born 1866

I have looked at the census between 1871 and 1881 to find my man. Since he may have changed his name I have attempted to research the following combinations – Walter Todman, Walter Willoughby, James Todman & James Willoughby.

These names were chosen for the following reasons:-
* Walter Todman - he was known from 1890(i) when he applied for his patent using this name, and for the rest of his life including when he married Martha Sarah Ellis in 1892(ii) in Australia.
* Walter Willoughby & James Todman - based on information contained in a advertisement in a newspaper column for MISSING FRIENDS "Willoughby, or Todman (James), left Millwall in 1884; last letter from Sydney, N.S.W., in 1888. Mother asks."(iii)
* James Willoughby- the final permutation of the possible first and last names.

I have calculated his year of birth as 1866 +/2 yrs based on his children’s Australian birth certificates which gives the father’s age and birth place:-
* 1894(iv) on his daughter's Martha certificate his birth place was given as Essex, England
* 1895(v) on his daughter's Ivy Florence certificate his birth place was given as Stepheney, London
* 1897(vi) on his son's Walter Victor certificate his birth place was given as Surrey, England
* 1903(vii) on his daughter's Hazel May certificate his birth place was given as Essex, England
* 1906(viii) on his son's Lincoln James certificate his birth place was given as Essex, England
* 1908(ix) on his daughter's Charlotte Mary certificate his birth place was given as Norfolk, England
* 1910(x) on his daughter's Alma Dudley certificate his birth place was given as Norfolk, England
On all birth certificates the informant was Martha Todman, mother and Walter’s wife; although the place of birth is always different his age is always consistent with being born in 1866.

The date range for search has been confined to 1871 and 1881 as the 1871 census is the first census taken after his birth in 1866 +/- 2 years, and by 1891 as he was in Australia.
The outcome of my research at this stage has resulted in two likely candidates:-
* Walter Todman son of William Todman & Emily abt 1866 born in Milford, Surrey, England
* James L T Willoughby son of Charles Willoughby & Mary Ann born Surrey, England

Now to check that neither of them died before 1891.....

(i) "Patent Office Transactions," The Sydney Mail and New South Wales Advertiser, 27 December 1890, p. 1446, col. 3; digital images, TROVE ( : accessed 18 Oct 2015), The Sydney Mail and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1871 - 1912).
(ii) Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, "Certificate of Marriage Walter Todman & Martha Ellis 16 January 1892 Reference# 345" (Original in family papers of Myrtle Sharp)
(iii) MISSING FRIENDS. (1901, April 13). Evening Journal (Adelaide, SA : 1869 - 1912), p. 6. Retrieved October 21, 2015, from
(iv) Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Birth Certificate Martha Todman (Year 1894, #1801, Original a certified copy)
(v) Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Birth Certificate Ivy Florence Todman (1895, Reference# 32737 Original a certified copy)
(vi) Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Birth Certificate Walter Victor Todman (Year 1897, Reference# 31247 Original a certified copy)
(vii) Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Birth Certificate Hazel May Todman (1903, #13749, Original a certified copy)
(viii) Birth Certificate Lincoln James Todman, 20 July 1906, Reference# 298, Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia (Original a certified copy)
(ix) Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Birth Certificate Charlotte Mary Todman (Year 1908, # 22796, Original a certified copy)
(x) Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Birth Certificate Alma Dudley Todman (Year 1909, Reference# 6626 Original a certified copy)

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