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The earliest we have been able to locate our Walter Todman in Australia is 1890 when he applies for a patent for shearing equipment which was duly reported in "The Sydney Mail and New South Wales Advertiser"(i) on the 27 December 1890 So I was very excited when I found an advertisement in a newspaper column for MISSING FRIENDS
"Willoughby, or Todman (James), left Millwall in 1884; last letter from Sydney, N.S.W., in 1888. Mother asks." (2)
Family legend states that Walter changed his name from Willoughby to Todman. The only marriage that my cousins and I have been able to fine between a Willoughby and a Todman occurred in 1854 when Charles Willoughby married Mary Ann Ramsey Todman in Gillingham Kent. They had a son James Lincoln Willoughby. On Walter's marriage certificate his mother was Mary Ann Willoughby, although the father was listed as Walter Todman(iii).
So now I am seeking to make contact with anyone who might be able to shed light on the mystery.
(i) "Patent Office Transactions" The Sydney Mail and New South Wales Advertiser, 27 December 1890, p. 1446, col. 3; digital images, TROVE (http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article163648327 : accessed 18 Oct 2015), The Sydney Mail and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1871 - 1912).
(ii) MISSING FRIENDS. (1901, April 13). Evening Journal (Adelaide, SA : 1869 - 1912), p. 6. Retrieved October 21, 2015, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article207944213
(lll) Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, "Certificate of Marriage Walter Todman & Martha Ellis 16 January 1892 Reference# 345" (Original certificate the in family papers of Myrtle Sharp.)
Information for Tonkin as promised.
Husband: Edwin Knight Jacka
Born: 18 Jan 1871 - Charcol Gully, Chewton, , Victoria, Australia (1)
Died: 4 Jun 1929 - Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia (2)
Buried: 6 Jun 1929 - Sandgate Cemetery, Newcastle, , New South Wales,
Father: Joshua Jacka (1840-1907) (3)
Mother: Rebecka Bennetts (Est 1849-1912)
Marriage: 27 May 1896 Place: Bendigo, , Victoria,
Wife: Elizabeth Ebbott
Born: 26 Jul 1872 - California Gully, Eaglehawk, , Victoria,
Died: 4 Jan 1955 - Chatswood, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
Buried: 5 Jan 1955 - Northern Suburbs Cemetery, North Sydney, , New
South Wales, Australia
Father: John Ebbott (1840-1920)
Mother: Margaret Thomas (1847-1906) (7)
1 M Cyril Knight Jacka
Born: 1896 - Fitzroy North, , Victoria, Australia (8)
Spouse: Edna "Doreen" Harvey ( - )
Marr. Date: 1923 - Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia (9)
2 M Edwin Stanley Jacka
Born: 1898 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (10)
Died: 1899 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (11)
Spouse: Did Not Marry
3 F Margaret Edith "Rita" Jacka
Born: 1900 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (12)
Died: 28 Jul 1984 - Boonah, , Queensland, Australia
Buried: 30 Jul 1984 - Kalbar Cemetery, Kalbar, , Queensland, Australia
Spouse: John "Jack" Aaron Palmer Williamson (1892-1982)
Marr. Date: 2 Sep 1922 - The Methodist Church, Hamilton, , New South Wales,
4 F Dorothy Annie "Dorrie" Jacka
Born: 31 Jan 1902 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (14)
Spouse: John "Jack" Dennis ( - )
Marr. Date: 1926 - Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia (15)
5 M John Lesley "Les" Jacka
Born: 15 Jul 1906 - North Fitzroy, Melbourne, , Victoria, Australia
Spouse: Sadie Mary Catherine Rath ( - )
Marr. Date: 1936 - Chatswood, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (17)
6 M Edwin "Eddie" Jacka
Born: 1 Feb 1909 - Bendigo, , Victoria, Australia (18)
Died: 1 Mar 1958 - Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (19)
Spouse: Maureen Newsom (1912-1996)
Marr. Date: 11 Oct 1940 - Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (20)
7 F Elizabeth Anne "Beth" Jacka
Born: 13 Aug 1915
Died: 31 Mar 1976
Spouse: Harold W. Robards (1911- )
Marr. Date: 1942 - Chatswood, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (21)
1. Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Birth
Certificate Edwin Knight Jacka (Year 1871, #1427 Original a certified
copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
2. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), 9559/1929 JACKA EDWIN K JOSHUA REBECCA
3. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical
Index(R) (Copyright,(c) 1980, 2002) downloaded 08 Sep 2006.
4. Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Marriage
Certificate Edwin Knight Jacka & Elizabeth Ebbott (Reference Details Year
1896, Reference #2319. Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession
of Sandra Williamson).
5. Birth Certificate Elizabeth Ebbott, 26 July 1872, Reference #15056, Registry
of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia (Original a certified
copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
6. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), 1560/1955 JACKA, ELIZABETH, Father JOHN,
Mother MARGARET, Place CHATSWOOD.
7. Inscription of Margaret Ebbott's grave head stone.
8. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Yr 1896 Reg# 27737.
9. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 15798/1923.
10. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Yr 1898 Reg# 16659.
11. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Yr 1899 Reg #765.
12. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Year: 1900 Reg.
13. NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, Marriage Certificate of John
Aaron Palmer Williamson & Margaret Edith Jacka (Original a Marriage
Transcription by Joy mUrrin (Transcription Agent NSW Births, Deaths and
Marriages) Certificate 11616 year 1922).
14. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 (Version 2.21 Produced by
Macbeth Geneological Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd),
Year: 1902; Reg. Number: 1170. Surname: JACKA; Given Names: Dorothy
Annie; Sex: F; Father: Edwin Knight; Mother: Elizth EBBOTT; Birth Place:
15. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 18053/1926. Groom's
Surname DENNIS; Groom's Given Name(s) JOHN ; Bride's Last Name at Time of
Marriage JACKA; Bride's Given Name(s) DOROTHY A; District HAMILTON.
16. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 (Version 2.21 Produced by
Macbeth Geneological Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd),
Year: 1906; Reg. Number: 18486. Surname: JACKA; Given Names: John Leslie;
Sex: M; Father: Edwin Knight; Mother: Elizth EBBOTT; Birth Place: FITZROY
17. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 6478/1936. Groom's
Surname JACKA; Groom's Given Name(s) JOHN LESLIE; Bride's Last Name at
Time of Marriage RATH; Bride's Given Name(s) SAIDEE MARY CATHERINE;
18. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 (Version 2.21 Produced by
Macbeth Geneological Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd),
Year: 1909; Reg. Number: 782. Surname: JACKA; Given Names: Jos Edwin;
Event: B; Sex: M; Father: Edwin Knight; Mother: Elizth EBBOTT; Birth
19. Personal Data Stuart Jacka.
20. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 22470/1940. Groom's
Surname JACKA; Groom's Given Name(s) EDWIN JOSEPH; Bride's Last Name at
Time of Marriage NEWSOM; Bride's Given Name(s) MAUREEN; District SYDNEY.
21. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), 21141/1942 ROBARDS HAROLD WILLIAM JACKA
ELIZABETH ALMA CHATSWOOD.
Recently I visited the Tresmeer cemetery, Cornwall in search of graves and came across the grave of Catherine Ebbott.
The headstone read
In Loving Memory of
of this Parish
who died 24th May 1902
Aged 85 years. Thy will be done
I was very excited when we located the grave, however I had to wait until I got home (to Australia) before I could figure out who Catherine Ebbott was she was the wife of my third great granduncle! It was the only grave in this parish church that I could find that had any connect to my family, there may have been others but after a while it becomes overwhelming trying to remember all the possible connections.
The mystery of Catherine Ebbott nee Mathew
Further Research revealed that Catherine was born in 1817 as Catherine Mathew and christened in 6 Apr 1817 in Tressmeer and lived there until she married Gregory Ebbot. Soon after the couple married they went to the USA. The following year after marriage they had their first child Caroline Ebbott, both mother and child returned possibly sometime in 1849 to England. Caroline may have been pregnant with her second child, Elizabeth Ann Ebbott (although I am unable to verify this) when she returned. It would appear that Gregory never returned to England.
In the 1851 Census Catherine is living with her parents and eldest daughter, Carolene who was 5 years old. Carolene was listed in the census as being born in America. Although Catherine is listed as married her husband is not present. Between 1861 and 1881 Cartherine is always listed as married but there is never a husband mentioned.
On 01/19/1854 there is a record of divorce proceedings for a Gregory Ebbot and Catherine Ebbot in Jefferson County, Wisconsin it was Gregory Ebbot, the plaintiff, who filed for divorce. The outcome of this application has not yet been researched yet, I am still waiting for a reply from the Dodge/Jefferson Counties Genealogical Society, Watertown, WI
In 1861 Census Catherine appears to be living by herself in the house next to her parents.
In 1871 Census Catherine is still listed as married but is living by herself and listed as an annuitant
In 1881 Census - Catherine is living by herself next to the Bluett family still married but still no husband list and she is listed as retired.
In 1891 Census Catherine is 73 Living On Her Own Means
In 1901 Census Visiting John & Elizabeth Fryan and listed as single.
Unfortunatley I have not been able to locate Gregory her husband until 1870 when there are two posibile candidates one living with the Ottawa, Waukesha, Wisconsin, United States working as a farm labourer and living with the Bluett family. There is also a second Gregory Ebbott living in Sullivan, Jefferson, Wisconsin, United States who has become a citizen of the US and farms a large property and has children with a woman Mary who is 30 years his junior.
Then the question is who/where is Catherines husband, I am presuming he was still alive as she is never listed as a widow? Does anyone recongnise this family or have any suggestions on how to approach the problem? Then question is who/where is Catherines husband, I am presuming he was still alive as she is never listed as a widow? Does anyone recongnise this family or have any suggestions on how to approach the problem?
I often search for death notices and personal details in the Newspapers but have recently found two unexpected notices in the The London Gazzette.
You can imagine how delighted I was to find that my second cousin twice removed, Reginald Harry Ebbott had received an OBE.
I also found death notice of Jane Grylls Jacka in the same publication so its worth having a look at.
Recently I posted a request for help to find the Obituary of Caroline Williamson nee Munro.
I received response from janilye who had graciously taken the time to consult the Ryson Index (why hadn't I thought of that?). Caroline WILLIAMSON does have a notice in the Sydney Morning Herald on the 18th JULY 1968.
Having now located a reference for the obituary I am now trying to locate an actual copy of the wording from the newspaper.
The steps I have taken so far are as follows:-
1. I have consulted the Australia Online Historical Newspapers which shows where you can find free copies of digital copies of the newspapers unfortunately it shows that in TROVE The Sydney Morning Herald has only been digitized between 1842 and 1954.- no joy here
2. Next I consulted the Google News Archive site which showed that there were 38,755 issues of Sydney Morning Herald between Apr 3, 1830 - Dec 31, 1989 - I was very excited I thought I could smell victory but alas there were only 5 of the 24 issues held in the archive for July and for the 18 July the edition that has been archived is the late edition and unfortunately there is no listing for Caroline Munro which could mean one of 2 things either the Ryson Index is incorrect (possible but not likely) or more probable that the death notice appeared in an earlier edition. - so no joy here.
3. Then it struck me perhaps as State Library of Victoria member I could access the "Sydney Morning Herald" which it turns out that I can, including a lot more resources. A list of can be found here Free journals, databases and ebooks. So I rummaged around in my files and dusted off my library card only to find that it didn't work. I immediately contacted the library by email who responded and confirmed that the card had expired so that I'd need ot re-register. To register was very easy all I had to do was fill out an online form "You can tick the option to have the card posted to you. This will take between 3 and 5 business days."
So it shouldn't be long before I can actually read Caroline's missing death notice/obituary!
By the way there was another alternative to accessing The Sydney Morning Herald and The Sun-Herald as they do have their own private archives covering the period between 1955-1995 however payment is required for access.
The pennies I save by waiting to use the State Library I am hoping to put towards purchasing another death certificate for my research - something that can't be found for free!
Thomas Crump lived in Victoria, Australia for 32 years before he died of a Disease connected with the heart and an Inquest was held on the 14 April 1874. He married Selina Wheeler in 1850, at that time there was no mention of Thomas having a previous marriage. On his death certificate however there is mention of a previous marriage partiuclars of first marriage unknown.
It is still unclear when Thomas came to Australia although it does appear that he was born in 1815 in Kent England, although we have been unable to find proof of this, and there has been some mention that he may have imigrated to Australia on MARQUIS OF HASTINGS arriving 04 02 1841 in Botany Bay, (SR NSW Film AL 2134) which has yet to be verified. [the AL code indicates that his name may have been found on an Agent's Immigration Lists, (lists of immigrants in private ships))
Thomas was a brickmaker, he lived and worked in an around Melbourne.
If anyone can offer any further information or suggestions as to where to head next in my quest for information I would most greatful.
Thomas CRUMP was born on 22nd November 1813 and baptised a month later on 2nd January 1814 Church of England, Goudhurst, Kent. He was the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Crump late a servant of Mr W. Mynn, the father was listed as William Mynn Jnr a farmer, both were from the parish.
William Mynn Jnr did not marry Elizabeth, when Thomas was christened Elizabeth was referred to as the late a servant of W. Mynn which indicates that she was no longer working for the family. It appears that William married Susannah Heath on 17 Dec 1825 Kensington and Chelsea, Middlesex, England
A few years after Thomas christening Ann Crump marries William Startup, according to the IGI William Startup and an Ann Crump on the 10 Feb 1816 in Tudeley, Kent, England.
Now the hunt is on to find out more about Thomas' mother and father. Any one have any helpful hints?
After much searching I have now located Thomas Crump's first wife.
Thomas Crump died on the 13 Apr 1874 in Hawthorn, Victoria, Australia. On his death certificate it was stated that he was born in Kent, England and had been living for 32 year in Victoria .
Based on time lived in Victoria he would have arrived around 1841/2. His death certificate also stated that he had been married twice although the name of his first wife was not listed, as particulars were not known at the time.
The only Thomas Crump arriving in Australia in 1841/2 was on the Marquis of Hasting on 4 February 1841, listed as being married and was accompanied by his wife Rebecca Crump. On Rebeccas record it was listed that she was formerly known as Underhill presumably her maiden name as her fathers surname is also given as an Underhill.
According to the Maidstone church records there was a marriage between a Thomas Crump and a Rebecca Underhill on the 15 Nov 1834 .
Seven years later that couple were migrating to Australia, seven years after arriving Rebecca died on 28 Aug 1848 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. There appears to have been no English or Australian born children to the couple, according to Rebecca's migration papers her state of bodily health was rather delicate. Both were Wesleyan Methodists.
Two years later Thomas married Selina Wheeler on 30 Dec 1850 in the Weslyan Church, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Thomas JACKA and Elizabeth GILBERT orignally from St Buryan, & then relocated to St Sithney, Cornwall
Thomas Jacka and Elizabeth Gilbert are my 5 x great grandparents
Thomas Jacka was christened on 15 Aug 1733 and married in 1760 to Elizabeth Gilbert, both events took place.in St Buryan.
Elizabeth Gilbert was born 9 July 1732 in St Buryan (sources: IGI, collaborated by The Jelbert Society in Thomas Gilbart (Morvah & St Buryan), this assertion is support by the custom of the day that marriages took place in the brides's church.
Thomas and Elizabeth are both buried in St Erth (source: Dees St Erth, Cornwall, UK Genealogy Page)). It is thought that Thomass father, John Jacka, originally came from St Erth so perhaps this is why Thomas returned there, before he died, perhaps there was some family connection there that drew him back.
Establishing the links between different family members
Transcription of the Probate/Death Duty Register entry for Thomas Jacka
(Source Citation: IR 26/339, EXETER: Cornwall Archdeaconry, Repository The National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 4DU)
(Note this is not the original will, but instead a copy made by the clerk.(source:CORNISH PROBATE RECORDS))
Date of the Probate or Admin & Sum Sworn
- 1796, May 4th, Under £300
Name and description of Testator or Intestate
-Thomas Jacka of St Erth, Yeoman
Names & places of Abode of the Exeors or Administrators
John, Joseph & James Jacka, Residuary Legatees, sons of John Jacka, The remainder of his goods
Auxiliary Legatees -
- Abraham Jacka, son, One hundred Pounds
- Elizabeth Jacka, Daughter, Fifty Pounds
- Ann Jacka, Daughter, Fifty Pounds
(Note - A 'yeoman' described as such in a nineteenth century census or directory was someone who owned his own land. This could be a big or a small landowner, especially when the term is used in a directory, but the census might more usually describe a big landowner as a 'landed proprietor'. A yeoman might in other contexts be described as a 'gentleman'source:- Index of Old Occupations)
All the children (see list below) except the two eldest sons, Thomas and William, are included in the Will. Both sons had already married so perhaps their father had already given them their inheritance while he was still alive?
Cornish Will Abstract for Thomas Jacka, St Erth yeoman
written - 04-Apr 1796
proved - 04-May 1796
pages - 421/422
son - Abraham
daughters - Elizth, Ann Jacka
3 sons - John, Joseph, James
witnesses - Thomas Ellis, James Otey
(Source:- Cornish Will Abstracts 1793 1797, Microfilm #0090202, Barons Morishe Reference found on.Dees St Erth, Cornwall, UK Genealogy Page))
Note yet to be sighted, may contain further information that maybe of interest
Thomas Jacka and Elizabeth Gilberts children:
1. Thos (Thomas) JACKA 1760-1833) who married Anna Moyse in 1790
2. William JACKA (1763- ?) who married Margaret Wood in 1790
3. John JACKA (1764- ?) who married Mary Lambrick in 1800
4. Elizabeth JACKKA 1766-1849) who married William Jelbart in 1800
5. Abraham JACKA 1769- ?)married ?
6. Joseph JACKA (1771- ?) who married Charity Berryman in 1798
7. James JACCKA (1774- ?) who married Eleanor Hammill in 1800
8. Ann JACKA (1777- ?)
Interested in making contact with anyone also researching the Jacka and/or Gilbert names in Cornwall.
On John Bassetts death certificate (died in Eaglehawk, Victoria, Australia) in 1868 his age was 80 and his parents were William Bassett and Mary Unknown. Therefore we deducted that he must have been born in circa 1788.
Research turned up a John Bassett christened 27 March 1788, St Izzey, Cornwall his parents were William Bassett and Mary Symons. At this point we felt very excited that we had found our John. However, after further research a descendant was found in Roma, Queensland, Australia who refuted our claim of kinship in the nicest way possible.
The following information was forwarded for us to digest:-
John Bassett [son of William Bassett (1761-1831) & Mary Symons (1767-1832)] Christened 27 Mar 1788 in St Izzy, Cornwall who died 7th Oct 1851 in Fairwater House, Taunton Somerset.John was a lunatic confined to Fairwater House Lunatic Asylum for many years admitted July 1828 having previously been a patient at a similar establishment near Tauton, Fivehead House since 25 Oct 1822.This was a wholesale move and transfer of license from the one to the other asylum by the same surgeon/owner. Private patient. Cause of death peritonitis and effusion in the chest (Somerset RO 1/5/87).
This therefore couldn't be the John Bassett who married Martha Carbis as he died in England in 1851 whereas our John died in Eaglehawk, Victoria, Australia in 1868
So it was back to the drawing board, until a second promising John Bassett was unearthed, who was also born in Madron
John Bassett christened 5 September 1790, Madron, Cornwall Unfortunately only one parent is given, the father, in the Madron Parish records see below
"5 Sep 1790 John s/o William Bassett, pauper at Madron"
On John Bassett's death certificate1 in 1868 his father is listed as William, a farmer, and his mother is listed as Mary unknown, a farmers wife.
Another conundrum perhaps John's parents had in the past been farmer but had become paupers just before John was born?
It would seem highly likely that the descendants in Australia had no clear memory of who John's parents were, or what their occupations were. Australia is a long way away and death certificates are not the most reliable source of information.
So until someone comes along to prove something different I've decided to lay claim to this John, at least for the momment.