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thanks for the feedback to my original journal - Who married Abraham Jacka?, I'm responding in a new journal as my reply to your feedback is quite detailed and without formatting would be quite difficult to read.
I did look for all the children including a birth/christening after 1769 discovered that Thomas Jacka and Elizabeth Gilbert had the following children
1. Thomas JACKA the Younger. chr: 29 Dec 1760, St. Buryan, Cornwall married Anna Moyse in Wendron, Cornwall 1790, and died 13 Nov 1833, Lannor, Cornwall
2. William JACKA chr: 2 Jan 1763, St Sithney, Cornwall, married Margaret Wood in Germoe 1790, and died: 1820 Germoe, Cornwall
3. John JACKA chr: 7 Oct 1764, St Sithney, Cornwall, married Mary Lambrick in Helston 1800, and died 1854
4. Elizabeth JACKKA chr: 30 Nov 1766, St Sithney, Cornwall, married William Jelbart in St Erth and died: 11 Apr 1849, St. Buryan, Cornwall
5. Abraham JACKA chr: 4 May 1769, St Sithney, Cornwall, died: After 1796 (married ??)
6. Joseph JACKA chr: 29 Sep 1771, St Sithney, Cornwall, married Charity Berryman in St Erth, and died Jun 1852
7. James JACCKA chr: 12 Oct 1774, St Sithney, Cornwall, married Eleanor Hammill in St Erth 1800 and died ???
8. Ann JACKA 26 Oct 1777, St Sithney, Cornwall, married ??? (married ??) died: After 1796
Unfortunately as you can see there are still many gaps in my knowledge.
How did I arrive at marriage dates of 1795/96?
I did a search for all the marriages on the OPC site http://cornwall-opc.org/ and got the following results:-
1718 Buryan, St. Abraham JACKA Grace RICHARDS
1770 Buryan, St. Abraham JACKA Alice SHETFAR(Shutford?)
1795 Buryan, St. Abraham JACKA Eliz. GEORGE
1796 Hilary, St. Abraham JACKA Ann MILLDRUM
1796 Hilary, St. Abraham JACKA Ann MILLDRUM
1827 Paul Abraham JACKA Phillis PENTREATH
I choose the Eliza George in St. Buryan & the Anne Mildrum in St. Hillary marriages as I thought these the most likely of all those listed. However after looking at the original reigsers the marriage on
19 Dec 1795 in St Buryan have both parities being of the St Buryan parish
20 Nov. 1796, St Hilary has Abraham coming from St Erth and Ann coming from St Hiliary
I was unable to find a marriage between for Abraham Jacka & Margery Blewett in Paul but I did find one for them in St Leven
21 Jul 1810 by Licence, Abraham Jacka of Paul & Margery Blewett
Unfortunately none of them conveniently come from Sithney. I think I need to do a little more research and see if I can track down all of the parents for all three Abrahams to see if I can eliminate some of them.
Thank once again Pat, it helps to have another pair of eyes look at everything.
Abraham Jacka was baptised 4 May 1769, St Sithney, Cornwall, England son of Thomas Jacka and Elizabeth Gilbert.
I have assumed that Abraham didn't die as either a child or a bachelor (my direct ancestor is Abrahams older brother, Thomas). Abraham was also listed as one of the legatees in his fathers will in 1796
There are two possible marriages for Abraham:-
1795 to Eliza George in St. Buryan
1796 to Anne Mildrum in St. Hillary
Initially I favoured Eliza George as Abrahams parents had come from St. Buryan which would possible allow a connection for the young people to happen between the parishes allowing an opportunity for the couple to meet.
I am hoping that someone recognises one or more of the above marriages so that I can narrow down the possibilities to one marriage or discount them both.
William Bassett and Jane Mathews were married on the 13 September 1783 in the Madron parish church, and had the following children christened in the same church:-
1. 4 Jan 1784 Anne d/o William Basset at Madron I am not sure what happened to Anne
2. 11 Sep 1785 Francis s/o William Bassett, pauper at Madron was working as a farmer until he became convicted of stealing and was transport to Australia. He was married to Ann Carbis who did not emigrate to Australia. Her husband along with her brother William and father were convicted of stealing and transported to Australia
3. 20 Jan 1788 William s/o William Bassett, pauper at Madron may have been buried on 27 October 1799 in Gulval, Cornwall the entry in the Gulval Church register reads:- October William Bassett of Penzance .. .. .. 27th
4. 5 Sep 1790 John s/o William Bassett, pauper at Madron migrated to Australia in 1852, who married Martha Carbis in in 1812, along with his wife and most of his married children
5. 8 Mar 1792 Mary d/o William Basset, pauper at Madron private baptism" was buried as an infant on 18 February 1793 as a pauper in Madron
6. 9 Mar 1794 Mary d/o William Basset, pauper at Madron
7. 13 Mar 1796 James s/o William Bassett, pauper at Madron was buried as an infant on 16 September 1797 as a pauper in Madron
8. 17 Feb 1798 Hanna d/o William Basset, pauper at Madron private baptism
9. 23 Mar 1800 Jane d/o William Basset at Madron private baptism was buried as a 12 year old on 12 Aug 1810 as a pauper in Madron
The male descendants have been a lot easier to follow up. In 1812 when Francis Bassett with others committed a crime and the scandal went on for about three years, off and on in the newspapers, I know my direct ancestor, John Bassett b.1790 moved out of the area with his wife which is what his surviving sisters may have done.
So at present I would like to discover what happened to
1. Anne Basset christened 1784
2. Mary Basset christened 1792
3. Hanna Bassett christened 1798
I also havent been able to trace the burials and/or deaths of either William Bassett or Jane Bassett nee Matthews who could have both possibly been born around 1762.
Any help would be much appreciated.
The Victoria Government Gazette
The first issue of the Victoria Government Gazette was published on 9 July 1851. Pre- July 1851 material about Victoria was published in the New South Wales Government Gazette, the Port Phillip Government Notices and the Port Phillip Government Gazette. .... Pasted from Victoria Government Gazette Early issues of the Victoria Government Gazette were published once a week. In the 1850s the frequency increased, and by the turn of the century the gazette was pressed almost daily. Pasted from State Library
The Gazette was the main tool of communication from the government to its employees and the general public. It contains information on everything from land transactions, bankruptcies, reward notices and new acts of parliament, to tenders, patent applications, unclaimed letters and monies, shipping and emigration notices, and more.
This resource can be accessed via
1. Findmypast.com.au which is a pay per view service
2. The Australasian Legal Information Institute (AUSTLII) website where you can search both the entire text and the index of all the Victorian Gazettes, however you cannot increase the size of the image to facilitate reading. This is a free site.
3. State Library of Victorias (SLV) website where you can search the index of the gazette but not the entire text, the pages can be enlarged and are much clearer than those accessed via AUSTLII. This is a free site.
My technique for investigating this resource
I use both the AUSTLII and the SLV website to ensure that I obtain as much data as possible and also obtain the clearest images for my personal record holdings.
First I search AUSTLII website. This will then give me a long list search results, in the case of my ebbott search it gave me a list of 390 documents to look at. For each document there were two listings: - one listing shows the page of the document where the term was found and the second listing is the first page of the edition in which this particular page is found. Of the 390 documents listed there were actually only 195 different results. The listing with the page number listed at the end of the result shows where in the gazette the term ebbott appears and is the link I always investigate of the two.
Once I have the result I then go to the advanced search page on the SLV website and perform a page search based on the information for year and page number given by the AUSTLII results listing so that I can either transcribe the page (and increase the size of the image if needed) or save and download it to my computer.
When I did my initial search on the name ebbott I didnt expect to find so many results. In order to manage the quantity of results I printed off entire listing of the research results and then I looked up each of the documents listed on the SLV website and ticked them off as I went through. This meant I could work in half an hour time increments far more manageable than trying to get through them all at once.
Recently I visited the Tresmeer cemetery, Cornwall in search of graves and came across the grave of Catherine Ebbott.
The headstone read
In Loving Memory of
of this Parish
who died 24th May 1902
Aged 85 years. Thy will be done
I was very excited when we located the grave, however I had to wait until I got home (to Australia) before I could figure out who Catherine Ebbott was she was the wife of my third great granduncle! It was the only grave in this parish church that I could find that had any connect to my family, there may have been others but after a while it becomes overwhelming trying to remember all the possible connections.
The mystery of Catherine Ebbott nee Mathew
Further Research revealed that Catherine was born in 1817 as Catherine Mathew and christened in 6 Apr 1817 in Tressmeer and lived there until she married Gregory Ebbot. Soon after the couple married they went to the USA. The following year after marriage they had their first child Caroline Ebbott, both mother and child returned possibly sometime in 1849 to England. Caroline may have been pregnant with her second child, Elizabeth Ann Ebbott (although I am unable to verify this) when she returned. It would appear that Gregory never returned to England.
In the 1851 Census Catherine is living with her parents and eldest daughter, Carolene who was 5 years old. Carolene was listed in the census as being born in America. Although Catherine is listed as married her husband is not present. Between 1861 and 1881 Cartherine is always listed as married but there is never a husband mentioned.
On 01/19/1854 there is a record of divorce proceedings for a Gregory Ebbot and Catherine Ebbot in Jefferson County, Wisconsin it was Gregory Ebbot, the plaintiff, who filed for divorce. The outcome of this application has not yet been researched yet, I am still waiting for a reply from the Dodge/Jefferson Counties Genealogical Society, Watertown, WI
In 1861 Census Catherine appears to be living by herself in the house next to her parents.
In 1871 Census Catherine is still listed as married but is living by herself and listed as an annuitant
In 1881 Census - Catherine is living by herself next to the Bluett family still married but still no husband list and she is listed as retired.
In 1891 Census Catherine is 73 Living On Her Own Means
In 1901 Census Visiting John & Elizabeth Fryan and listed as single.
Unfortunatley I have not been able to locate Gregory her husband until 1870 when there are two posibile candidates one living with the Ottawa, Waukesha, Wisconsin, United States working as a farm labourer and living with the Bluett family. There is also a second Gregory Ebbott living in Sullivan, Jefferson, Wisconsin, United States who has become a citizen of the US and farms a large property and has children with a woman Mary who is 30 years his junior.
Then the question is who/where is Catherines husband, I am presuming he was still alive as she is never listed as a widow? Does anyone recongnise this family or have any suggestions on how to approach the problem? Then question is who/where is Catherines husband, I am presuming he was still alive as she is never listed as a widow? Does anyone recongnise this family or have any suggestions on how to approach the problem?
Mary Ferrett is my fourth great-grandmother she married Philip Upton Ebbott in 1804, in Trenglos, Cornwall thus becoming Mary Ebbott.
As explained in a previous post entitled Two Mary Ebbotts help need to disentangle them I have been trying to distinguish which of the two Mary Ebbotts that appeared in the 1841 was my ancestor.
To recap- In the 1841 Census in Cornwall, there are two Mary Ebbotts born about 1786 in the county of Cornwall. When searching on the web, I noticed that these two Marys are often interchangeable and both often assigned to my ancestor Mary Ebbott (nee Ferrett).
This is further complicated by both of these Marys staying with families who are directly related to my ancestors.
In household 1 Philip Ebbott is the eldest male in the household. Mary in this household would be Philips wife, and therefore my ancestor. This is corroborated by the 1851 census, where both are listed as husband and wife.
In household 2 John Bone is the eldest male of the household. John is the father-in-law of Sarah Ebbott, Mary Ebbott (nee Ferrett)s daughter. It is possible that Mary could have been visiting Sarahs in-laws on the night of the census. John Bones wife Grace died two days before the census and this could have been the reason for the visit. I can find no further record of this second Mary Ebbott in the 1851 census or death between 1841 and 1851.
Both Mary Ebbotts in the 1841 census are the same person who was registered in two places. She may have been staying the night of the census with relatives (John Bone), and was included on the household census. And at the same time Marys husband, Philip Ebbott, not following instructions to the letter, may have included her in the household as this is where she lived.
If the head of household was literate then they would fill out the census for the family. This could mean that husband, Philip Ebbott filled the census out as soon as he got it and/or it sat around waiting to be picked up, in the meantime his wife may have gone visiting to John Bone's either for the day or overnight and as a consequence was recorded as being at the Bone's residence as well. The residences being only 3 miles apart this would be have been quite plausible.
I would be interested in hearing other researchers thoughts on my conclusion either in agreement or disagreement, I would be particularly interested in anyone who can claim or recognise the Mary Ebbott of household 2 thus disproving my theory of a double up.
The background to my conclusion
The first step was to trace and confirm the identity of Mary in household 1, beyond the 1841 census. In the 1851 she is confirmed as the wife of Philip. Marys husband Philip passes away a two months after the 1851 census, and soon after in 1854 Mary with her youngest son William migrate from Tresmere to Palumyra, Wisconsin, USA via Quebec.
The second step then was to establish or eliminate the Mary in household 2. I looked for a death of a Mary Ebbott between 1841 and 1852 to see if she had died between the censuses. I found only one Mary Ebbott dying during this period. The death registration was for a Mary Jane EBBOTT. This Mary Jane Ebbott was the granddaughter of Mary Ebbott (nee Ferrett) and only 3 years of age. The result being the Mary Ebbott in household 2 remains a mystery.
I often search for death notices and personal details in the Newspapers but have recently found two unexpected notices in the The London Gazzette.
You can imagine how delighted I was to find that my second cousin twice removed, Reginald Harry Ebbott had received an OBE.
I also found death notice of Jane Grylls Jacka in the same publication so its worth having a look at.
Information for Tonkin as promised.
Husband: Edwin Knight Jacka
Born: 18 Jan 1871 - Charcol Gully, Chewton, , Victoria, Australia (1)
Died: 4 Jun 1929 - Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia (2)
Buried: 6 Jun 1929 - Sandgate Cemetery, Newcastle, , New South Wales,
Father: Joshua Jacka (1840-1907) (3)
Mother: Rebecka Bennetts (Est 1849-1912)
Marriage: 27 May 1896 Place: Bendigo, , Victoria,
Wife: Elizabeth Ebbott
Born: 26 Jul 1872 - California Gully, Eaglehawk, , Victoria,
Died: 4 Jan 1955 - Chatswood, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
Buried: 5 Jan 1955 - Northern Suburbs Cemetery, North Sydney, , New
South Wales, Australia
Father: John Ebbott (1840-1920)
Mother: Margaret Thomas (1847-1906) (7)
1 M Cyril Knight Jacka
Born: 1896 - Fitzroy North, , Victoria, Australia (8)
Spouse: Edna "Doreen" Harvey ( - )
Marr. Date: 1923 - Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia (9)
2 M Edwin Stanley Jacka
Born: 1898 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (10)
Died: 1899 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (11)
Spouse: Did Not Marry
3 F Margaret Edith "Rita" Jacka
Born: 1900 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (12)
Died: 28 Jul 1984 - Boonah, , Queensland, Australia
Buried: 30 Jul 1984 - Kalbar Cemetery, Kalbar, , Queensland, Australia
Spouse: John "Jack" Aaron Palmer Williamson (1892-1982)
Marr. Date: 2 Sep 1922 - The Methodist Church, Hamilton, , New South Wales,
4 F Dorothy Annie "Dorrie" Jacka
Born: 31 Jan 1902 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (14)
Spouse: John "Jack" Dennis ( - )
Marr. Date: 1926 - Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia (15)
5 M John Lesley "Les" Jacka
Born: 15 Jul 1906 - North Fitzroy, Melbourne, , Victoria, Australia
Spouse: Sadie Mary Catherine Rath ( - )
Marr. Date: 1936 - Chatswood, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (17)
6 M Edwin "Eddie" Jacka
Born: 1 Feb 1909 - Bendigo, , Victoria, Australia (18)
Died: 1 Mar 1958 - Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (19)
Spouse: Maureen Newsom (1912-1996)
Marr. Date: 11 Oct 1940 - Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (20)
7 F Elizabeth Anne "Beth" Jacka
Born: 13 Aug 1915
Died: 31 Mar 1976
Spouse: Harold W. Robards (1911- )
Marr. Date: 1942 - Chatswood, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (21)
1. Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Birth
Certificate Edwin Knight Jacka (Year 1871, #1427 Original a certified
copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
2. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), 9559/1929 JACKA EDWIN K JOSHUA REBECCA
3. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical
Index(R) (Copyright,(c) 1980, 2002) downloaded 08 Sep 2006.
4. Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Marriage
Certificate Edwin Knight Jacka & Elizabeth Ebbott (Reference Details Year
1896, Reference #2319. Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession
of Sandra Williamson).
5. Birth Certificate Elizabeth Ebbott, 26 July 1872, Reference #15056, Registry
of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia (Original a certified
copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
6. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), 1560/1955 JACKA, ELIZABETH, Father JOHN,
Mother MARGARET, Place CHATSWOOD.
7. Inscription of Margaret Ebbott's grave head stone.
8. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Yr 1896 Reg# 27737.
9. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 15798/1923.
10. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Yr 1898 Reg# 16659.
11. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Yr 1899 Reg #765.
12. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Year: 1900 Reg.
13. NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, Marriage Certificate of John
Aaron Palmer Williamson & Margaret Edith Jacka (Original a Marriage
Transcription by Joy mUrrin (Transcription Agent NSW Births, Deaths and
Marriages) Certificate 11616 year 1922).
14. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 (Version 2.21 Produced by
Macbeth Geneological Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd),
Year: 1902; Reg. Number: 1170. Surname: JACKA; Given Names: Dorothy
Annie; Sex: F; Father: Edwin Knight; Mother: Elizth EBBOTT; Birth Place:
15. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 18053/1926. Groom's
Surname DENNIS; Groom's Given Name(s) JOHN ; Bride's Last Name at Time of
Marriage JACKA; Bride's Given Name(s) DOROTHY A; District HAMILTON.
16. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 (Version 2.21 Produced by
Macbeth Geneological Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd),
Year: 1906; Reg. Number: 18486. Surname: JACKA; Given Names: John Leslie;
Sex: M; Father: Edwin Knight; Mother: Elizth EBBOTT; Birth Place: FITZROY
17. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 6478/1936. Groom's
Surname JACKA; Groom's Given Name(s) JOHN LESLIE; Bride's Last Name at
Time of Marriage RATH; Bride's Given Name(s) SAIDEE MARY CATHERINE;
18. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 (Version 2.21 Produced by
Macbeth Geneological Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd),
Year: 1909; Reg. Number: 782. Surname: JACKA; Given Names: Jos Edwin;
Event: B; Sex: M; Father: Edwin Knight; Mother: Elizth EBBOTT; Birth
19. Personal Data Stuart Jacka.
20. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 22470/1940. Groom's
Surname JACKA; Groom's Given Name(s) EDWIN JOSEPH; Bride's Last Name at
Time of Marriage NEWSOM; Bride's Given Name(s) MAUREEN; District SYDNEY.
21. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), 21141/1942 ROBARDS HAROLD WILLIAM JACKA
ELIZABETH ALMA CHATSWOOD.
There are two Mary Ebbotts in the 1841 Census, and both are living with relations. I have managed to solve the identity of one of them but the other who must somehow be related is a complete mystery to me, Im sure shes related but I cant work out how, I am presuming that Ebbott is her married but that leaves me none the wiser. Anyone know who Mary Ebbott who is living in the with the Bone family below is? Fro further detail see below:-
The mystery Mary
Name: Mary Ebbott, Age: 55, Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Street Address: Treludick, Egloskerry, Cornwall
1. John Bone, 60, Farmer, Cornwall (father of Sarah Bone who married John Ebbott born 1808)
2. William Bone, 20, Cornwall
3. Julias Bone, 20, Cornwall
4. Jane Bone, 25,Cornwall
5. John Coram, 15,Cornwall
6. Ann Congdon, 15, Female Servant, Cornwall
7. Henry Coram 3, Cornwall
8. Elizabeth Woof, 35, Cornwall
9. Fanny Woof, 4 Mo, Cornwall
10. Richard Woof, 10, Ag Labourer, Cornwall
11. Walter Pearse, 10, Ag Labourer, Cornwall
12. Mary Ebbott, 55, Cornwall (not sure who this Mary Ebbott)
13. Sarah Pearse, 30, Female Servant, Cornwall
(Piece: HO107/134/1 )
My Ancestor Mary Ebbott nee Ferrett
The Ebbott family living in Trerimince, Tresmeer, Cornwall
1. Philip Ebbott,65, Farmer, Cornwall
2. Mary Ebbott, 55, Cornwall, (presumably Phillips wife)
3. Wilmit Ebbott, 85, Independent, Cornwall (Philipss mother)
4. Henry Ebbott, 20, Tailor, Cornwall
5. Gregory Ebbott, 20, Cornwall
6. William Ebbott, 11, Cornwall
7. William Congdon, 20, M.S, Cornwall
8. William Cory, 15, M.S, Cornwall
9. John Reed, 11, M.S, Cornwall
10. Elisabeth French, 15, F.S, Cornwall
11. Mary A Rundle, 20, F.S, Cornwall
12. Henry Harris, 7, M.S, Cornwall
Place: Alternon Tresmeer
1. Philip EBBOTT, Head, M, 76, Retired Farmer, Cornwall - Tresmeer
2. Mary EBBOTT, Wife, 68, Cornwall - Treneglos
3. William EBBOTT, Son , 21, Farm Servant, Cornwall - Tresmeer
I have just discovered the digital images of parish registers on line "England, Cornwall Parish Registers, 1538-2010 on line."
In paritcular I was interested in the Cornish Parish listed by Name of the Town (with parish) Parish Registers
It was amazing to look at copies of the Tremaine register on line and turn the page and blow up the image if I couldn't make out the writing - all in the comfort of my own home. If you haven't discovered this resourse yet you should give it a go - I was able to push my Hambly/Baker back one more generation!