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Elizabeth Emma BARKWITH at Old Gorge Cemetery Woodville, New Zealand

Elizabeth Emma Barkwith was born in 1875

Elizabeth married
- Henry Walter Allan (1871-1948i) in 1898
- Henry was born in New Zealand but his parents names were not recorded

their (known) children were:
1899-1979 Ivan Campbell

1901-1971 Walter Drummond
- married Myrtle Emma Cave in 1924

15-3-1905-1980 - Colin Barkwith
- twin with Gwendoline
- married Rita Alice Fuller in 1928

15-3-1905-? - Gwendoline Mary
- twin with Colin
- married Thomas Allan Mack in 1928
- may have remarried

8-1-1909-1999 Dorothy Isabel
- didn't marry

Elizabeth died 5 years after Henry, not known at this time where Henry is buried

At the time of her death her details were provided by E. Morris jnr (on 28-1-1953) - can you help on who he was, if he was related to her

DAIRY WORKERS at the ARBITRATION COURT 1909 - Manawatu New Zealand

The following article was taken from PAPERS PAST
- additional explanations in brackets are mine -
DAIRY WORKERS at the ARBITRATION COURT

The Arbitration Court sat in Palmerston (North) yesterday in connection with the Dairy Workers' dispute

Mr Justice Sim presided, with Messrs Brown and McCullough. Mr Pryor acted for the employers and Mr Reardon for the Union

In opening the case for the Union, Mr Reardon dealt with its demands and specially emphasised the demand for preference to unionists
William Dick, first assistant cheese-maker at the Dried Milk Factory, Bunnythorpe, said he had worked at Levin as a butter-maker for 2 10s, accommodation and firing (given fire wood) and 80 hours per week, starting at 4am and working seven days a week. he was not now doing fifty hours a week and the work was as well done. No overtime was given at Levin while at Bunnythorpe he got off at 10am one day weekly with a fortnight off on full pay once a year. That was a general practice. To Mr Pryor: It was 6 years since he worked at Levin. He was quite satified with his present hours but his factory was an exception. It would pay the men if the employers
offered to pay overtime for what they worked over the statutory number of hours in the busy season and have a deduction for hours worked short in the slack season. He had received a letter from his company stating that as the working cost of the factory was too high he was to be dismissed. He supposed that was a reason for his dismisal, but another man was being put on in his place.

William John Neilson, (1835-1909) manager for Nathan & Co at Raumai, was getting 2 7s 6d per week with free house, firewood and milk. Had been three years managing for Nathan & Co at Whakaronga at 2 5s per week, free houe, firewood and milk with 10s a week allowance for carting. He worked for the Dairy Union in Wellington, getting 6 a month to start and rose to 9. He worked from 5am to 4.30pm and sometimes to 9pm. He got 6d an hour overtime. He worked for the Dairy Union at Palmerston North at from 8 to 9 per month. He was on standard wages for nine months but for 3 months was cut down to half pay. For holidays he got a fortnight on full pay or a month on half pay. The creamery manager got preference for the carting contract.

Ralph Thompson, creamery manager NZ Farmers Dairy Union, Otaki, got 10 per month, had worked for Fresh Food & Ice Company at Upper Hutt, Colyton and Tokomaru, wages from 2 2s to 2 5s with whare (house) and 2lb (907 grams) butter, firing and milk when "batching" (wife away) When the factory was closed he got a month on full pay and always a fortnights holiday on full pay. The men got better wages in Otago than in the North Island. To Mr Pryor: he pasteurised cream at Otaki. This was a common practice for creamery managers. To Mr Reardon: That took about an hour a day

Edward Henry Buckley, (1879-1933) creamery manager, NZ Dairy Union, Shannon got 10 per month. Had been 5 years with the Company as general worker at 2 5s per week with usual holiday allowances. To Mr Pryor: Had worked at Linton, 8 per month and usual accommodation allowances

W. Timms, head butter maker at Makino 3 5s per week. Had worked for the Company at various places for 8 or 9 years, wages averaging from 30s to 2 5s for about 12 hours a day. At Makino they worked about 8 hours

George Maston, creamery manager for Nathan & Co, Fitzherbert East, 9 15s per month for 9 months and 8 15s for 3 months with house, firewood and milk. He also had carting contract for 5 per month but had to find his own horse, cart and harness

Henry Ernest Harvey, (1877-1956) first assistant, NZ Federated Dairy Union. Worked with them for 7 years. Now got 2 15s per week without allowances except a fortnight holiday on full pay. Hours 8 Summer, 7 Winter

Michael P Reardon testified that at the conference between employers and employees, he taxed Mr Nathan with threatened dismissal. Mr Nathan denied this, saying that he merely told them "they could choose between the Union and himself but they couldn't serve both". To Mr Pryor: He had no evidence on that point as it would be difficult to get witnesses to give this evidence against their employer. Mr Pryor, commencing his case, pointed out the importance of the case as dealing with one of the largest industries in New Zealand. The hard and fast conditions laid down had proved unsuccessful in Taranaki and Canterbury. It was the farmers who would have to pay increaed working cost. The existence of the industry was at stake as an award might cause the closing down of a large number of factories, thus bringing ruin to the dairy farmers. The conditions might be possible in the larger factories but would not do for the small factories and if the small ones went the large ones must follow.

Mr Pryor likened the present conditions of the dairy industry to that of the flax industry since the award came into force. There were already reductions in the industry and to base an award on present conditions spelt disaster. There had been an increase in the wages earned by dairy factory hands witout an award. He asked that no award be made.
He called: Cyril Robert Beattie,Woodville, (1863-1945) who had been associated with dairy companies since 1895. Local factories would show no profits on the past 3 years, parly due to speculative buying on the part of outide firms, thus giving fictitious values to some factories. The factories who adopted the consignment policy had to pay out on their butter fat at the same basi as those selling to fictitious buyers. Future prospects showed a probable reduction in cheese and certainly in butter, because the experience of speculative firms would not encourage speculation. The failure of large London firms and one large NZ firm would have a serious effect on the industry and prospects for the coming winter were bad as the supply was so abundanct that the local market would be glutted. Up to now his company had always found work and kept their 25 to 30 employees on when the creamery was closed down but they had pointed out that if the award asked for by the Union came into force they would be no
longer able to do that. Any increase in the cost of labour at present would cause directors of small companies to consider closing down, which would be injurious to the industry. His latest advice showed butter at 104s or 10d f.o.b. NZ and it would probably go lower. To Mr Reardon: The price of butter had gone up 100% in the past 13 years and labour had not gone up accordingly
- Cyril married Ethel Bartlett in 1895
- they had Malcolm Barlett Beattie in 1896 & Cyril George Beattie in 1898

Walter Henry Duncan, (1859-1956) manager of the Glen Oroua Dairy Company, corroborated the previou witness. Welington price had dropped a farthing in the last ten days and last night he got information of a further drop form 10d to 9d. His company considered Siberia a most dangerous competitior. WHen the company first started in 1900 its first year's profit was 12 3s 9d after paying 8d per lb for butter fat. If the wages claimed by the award had been in force the company would have lost 152 or reduce the price of butter fat 1d per lb and would have ceased to exist. In the 4 months of the busy season his company worked 10 hours daily, the second 4 months 7 and the last 4 months 5 hours. Except in the winter the men worked every Sunday. In the slack time some some factories could only work 16 hour per week. The men got a fortnights holiday on full pay.
- Walter married Maria Neill in 1884
- they had a daughter Gladys
- possibly more

Anthony Edward O'Neale, (1845-1919) a supplier to the Featherston cheese factory said that in 1906-07 his receipts were 1258, including stock in hand at beginning of term, and his outgoings were 1079, including stock in hand, without any drawings by himelf or family. He allowed 177 at cost of living, leaving a margin of 1 7s 1d. In 1907 the revenue was 344 and outgoing 1198, leaving 146 for the maintenance of his family. He had 2 sons, 16 and 13 and 3 daughters partly or wholly employed on the farm.
- his children with wife Louisa were:
1880 - 1960 Ethel
... didn't marry
1881 - 1968 Harold Richard
... married Theresa Ann Hodder in 1915
- she was a sister to Francis John who married Hilda (below)
1882 - 1958 Hilda Frances
... married Francis John Hodder in 1920
- he was a brother to Theresa who married Harold (above)
1884 - ? Ettie
1886 - 1972 Lottie Kathleen
... married Alfred Cyrus Silverwood in 1913
1895 - 1950 Raymond Carrol
... married Dorothy Bona Dyson in 1921

Walter Elliott, Rongokokako, near Eketahuna, submitted balance sheets showing that in 1906-07 his income was 386 and expenditure 186 leaving a gross profit of 200. From this had to be deducted interest on capital, his own wages, loss on stock, etc leaving a loss of 55. In 1907-08 the recipts were 287, expenditure 200, leaving 87 balance. After deducting interest, wages of wife and self, loss of stock, there remained a net loss of 176. If his returns from the factory were reduced owing to increased wages he would have to close down. Two of his nieghbours had already given up dairying for sheep.
To Mr Reardon: He paid 5 15s p.a. for the farm and now valued the farm at 17 10s. He had not put all his time on the farm, having to work outside for parts of years to keep the farm going.

James Elliott, Mauriceville, farmed 129 acres freehold and 30 acres leasehold. In 1908-07 he received 215 and spent 98. When interest at 5%, loss on stock and depreciation were allowed for, the net profit was 31. In 1907-08 the receipts were 191, expenditure, wages, rent etc, 136, leaving a balance of 55. When interest etc was allowed there was a debit of 20

Peter Morensen, a Mauriceville supplier, in 1906-07 had 22 loss. In 1907-08 97 loss

William Alfred Mason, Nireaha, said that in 1906-07 he had a credit balance of 3 11s ... more at link

.. The employers also objected to the holidays on Christmas Day and Good Friday. Against the long hours of the busy season there were the short hours in the slack season and the 14 days holidays. He claimed that the union was not dissatisfied with the present conditions...

James Branch, (1881-1951) manager of the Mauriceville butter factory said the staff consisted of one assistant and himself. The assistant started at 2 and was now receiving 2 5s. He did not wish to come under an award. That was the general feeling. The hours were 10 a day for 3 months, 8 for 4 months and 6 for 2 months. The temperature affected the time taken to cool the cream and sometimes it was necessary to mark time till the proper temperature was reached. If the wages went up the factory would have to close down. To Mr Reardon: The men's claims would increase the wages bill 1 a week. He did not wish to come under an award. He was receiving quite enough. If directors sacked the assistant and put on a youth the factory could come under the award without increasing the wages bill.

C.H.J. Johnston, secretary and general manager Waverley Dairy Co, gave evidence that the hours at the butter factory varied from 35 per week up to 57 as at present

Arthur Cecil Perry, (1868-1942) director, Rongotea factory said last years output was 185 tons. The staff consisted of a manager, who was also the butter-maker, at 250 a year, first assistant 2 10s, third 2 and casual men at 1 15s.

James Adamson, manager on contract, Featherston cheese factory ... (more at link) as far as he knew there were no members of the union in the Wairarapa

Alexander McKenzie, manager Taratahi Dairy Co, Carterton .. (more at link)

OF INTEREST - 100 hundreds years later
2 a week in 1909 is the same in 2009 as $298
- for a 50 hour week (as they were doing in the slack times) that would be $5.98 an hour.

the SETTLERS cemetery - Dannevirke, New Zealand

The SETTLERS cemetery is also known as the Dannevirke Old Cemetery
It is in George St, Dannevirke in the Manawatu

Dannevirke meaning "Danish creation" or "Danes' work" is known for its Scandinavian heritage, which dates back to 1872 when 21 Danish and Norwegian families arrived at the port of Napier and built their initial settlement in a clearing of the Seventy Mile Bush.
Dannevirke for which the town was named is an extensive Viking-age fortification line which had a strong emotive symbolic role for 19th Century Danes, especially after the site had fallen into German hands in the German-Danish War of 1864 - a recent and very painful event for these settlers.

The settlement quickly earned the nickname of "sleeper town", as the town's purpose was to provide totara sleepers for the Napier - Wellington railway line. At one stage the area had 50 operating sawmills. After the native bush was cleared, the land was turned into pasture for grazing animals.

The town's cemeteries are of considerable importance historically, and the settlers' cemetery attracts many visitors

A list of all those buried in the Settlers Cemetery

The SETTLERS CEMETERY DATABASE
- includes
Alfredton Rd - Eketahuna
Alfredton Memorial
Herbertville
Kaitawa - Pahiatua
Kumeroa - Woodville
Mangaoranga - Eketahuna
Mangatianoka - Pahiatua
Mangatera - Dannevirke
Newman - Eketahuna
Norsewood
Old Gorge - Woodville
Ormondville

Pinfold Rd Lawn - Woodville
Pongaroa
RSA Woodville
Settlers - Dannevirke
Weber

John CHALMERS - from Linlithgow, Scotland to pioneer Woodville, New Zealand

John Chalmers was born 1819 in Linlithgow, Scotland
He was married to Anee Drew ? probably in Scotland
(maybe Drew is her surname)

All their children are not known
- can you help with info ?

John died in his garden in Woodville in 1900
his details were provided by his son in law
- Robert Elliot Beattie (1855-1945) on 30-3-1900
- (married Jane Chalmers in 1892)
- Jane was born 1859


From the HAWKES BAY HERALD
- 31st July 1884
MARRIAGE - McPherson-Chalmers - At the Manse, Waipukurau, on the 29th July, by the Rev. Alexander Grant, Presbyterian minister, James McPherson, Dannevirke (formerly of Strathspey, Scotland) to Agnes Drew, elder daughter of John Chlamers (formerly of Linithgowshire, Scotland)
- Agnes was born 1855

from the HAWKES BAY HERALD
- 3rd September 1887
Mr John Chalmers wrote claiming 1 damages for the use of a gravel pit - The Council declined to pay more than had been paid to Messrs Sainsbury and Logan and would be glad of further explanation in the Magistrate's Court
(by 2009 that 1 was worth $182)


From the HAWKES BAY HERALD
- 30th March 1900
DEATH OF A PIONEER - Woodville, Thursday
John Chalmers, a pioneer settler, was found dead in hs garden. He was over 80 years of age. His wife predeceased him by a couple of months
- (she actually died 14 months before him)

From the HAWKES BAY HERALD
- 10th April 1900
CHALMERS - At Hopeton Farm, Napier-road, Woodville, suddenly, on March 28th ult., John Chalmers, aged 80 years. Much respected and deeply regretted

Also buried in Old Gorge is his wife Ann, a son John, (1859-1908)
his daughter Jane (1859-1945) and members of her family, his daughter Agnes Drew McPherson (1855-1925) is buried at the Settlers Cemetery in Dannevirke with members of her family

Peder (Peter) CHRISTIANSEN (1848-1929) - buried Woodville New Zealand

Peder Christiansen was born 1848, unknown where at this time

He married Elise Marie Berkhan (1864-1943)
- Elise was born in Denmark, 1 of 12 children to Franz Frederick Heinrich Berkahn and Inga Maria Poulsen
- emigrated from Denmark to Norsewood, Danneivirke etc

Peder & Elise's (known) children were:
1884-1958 Christian Archibald
- married Olena Redersen in 1913

1886-1967 Anna Maria Vena
- married Martin Olaf Nielsen in 1900
- they had:
1900 - Verna Mavis Nielsen
1905 - Ulvas Royal Nielsen

1889-? Harold Adolf
- born in Norsewood

1891-1918 George William Frantz
- born in Hawkes Bay
Private 10/2548
George William Frantz Christiansen was killed in action on the Somme, France on the 23rd May 1918
He served with the Wellington Infantry Battalion, 6th Reinforcements
His first known rank was Lance Corporal
His next of kin was listed as:
Son of Mrs P. Christiansen, of Woodville, New Zealand
He is buried in: Plot: I. AA. 15.
SUCRERIE MILITARY CEMETERY, COLINCAMPS

1895-1973 Nellie Hertel Dagmar
- married William Gribner in 1916
- buried in Manunui, King Country

1898-? Sylia Margaret

Peder is buried in the Old Gorge Cemetery in Woodville

A granddaughter, Phyllis Merla Christiansen was a daughter of Christian Archibald Christiansen (1884-1958) and Olena Redersen (1897-1960)
- she died aged 4 and is also buried at Old Gorge Cemetery, Woodville

Margaret Josephine COSGROVE Woodville NZ

Margaret Josephine HUNTER (1845-1926)
was born in Auckland, a daughter of George Edward Hunter, a printer of Auckland & of Margaret McDonald
- she married Patrick McIlroy COSGROVE (1840-1904) in Napier 2 December 1865
Patrick was born in Enniskellen, County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland to Bernard Cosgrove & Ellen McIlroy

* in 1869 Patrick Cosgrove was a saddler at Napier in partnership with Thomas Bowes, the partnership was dissolved and Patrick continued on with the busines
* in 1870 Patrick was serving on the jury at Hawkes Bay

the known children of Patrick & Margaret:
... 1
1866 - 1926 Bernard Joseph Cosgrove
- born in Napier
- Bernard married Louisa BURKIN (1869-1928) 23 May 1893 in Waipawa
- their known children:
(attended Waipawa Convent School)
* 1893 - 1967 Benjamin Bernard Joseph Cosgrove
* 1895 - 1975 John Angus Cosgrove
* 1896 - 1952 Louisa Margaret Cosgrove
* 1898 - 1971 Patrick Thomas McLeroy Cosgrove
* 1900 - 1982 George Egbert Cosgrove
* 1902 - 1969 James Cosgrove
* 1905 - 1983 Stephen Desmond Cosgrove
* 1906 - 1980 Joseph Francis Cosgrove
* 1908 - 1909 Allan Victor Cosgrove (8 months)
* 1911 - 1988 Michael Henry Cosgrove
Evening Post, 8 April 1926 Benjamin Joseph Cosgrove, aged about 60 years, a retired saddler and conductor of the Waipawa Municipal Band, was killed by a train at the Waipawa railway station this evening. Ten minutes after a train went out the body was found on the line. It is assumed that Cosgrove attempted either to board or to alight from the train while it was moving and fell between two carriages. Deceased suffered severe injuries to the head and arm

... 2
1868 - 1868 Edward George Cosgrove
- Edward died aged 12 days

... 3
1870 - 1942 Patrick John Cosgrove
- Patrick married Ida Mary Elizabeth WHITE (1876-) in 1896

... 4
1872 - 1934 John Joseph 'Jack' Cosgrove
- 1893 John Cosgrove had a perpetual lease on section 12 & 14 at Woodville, V.H.S.D.
- possible John lived in Masterton about 1903
- John married Rhoda HOBBS in 1902
- their known children:
* 1904 - 1976 Alice Margaret Cosgrove
* 1905 - 1985 Patrick William Cosgrove
* 1907 - Rhoda Mary Cosgrove
* 1909 - Emily Francis Cosgrove
* 1911 - 1958 Joseph George Cosgrove
- in 1918 John Joseph Cosgrove married Margaret MANNING
Auckland Star, 14 November 1934 OBITUARY - A well-known bandmaster and choir conductor, Mr John Joseph Cosgrove, died at the Auckland Hospital at the age of 62 years. He was a bandmaster of Waipawa Brass band for seven years, and at various times held similar positions at Gisborne, Masterton and Palmerston North. He was also choirmaster at thee Catholic Churches of Waipawa, Palmerston North and Devonport. Mr Cosgrove held no less than 13 medals for euphonium and baritone solo championships, won in New Zealand band contests. He is survived by Mrs Cosgrove and the following children:
* Mrs J. C. Lynch, Auckland (Alice Margaret)
* Mrs C. Kernott, Papakura
* Mrs J. Broughton, Auckland
* Mrs V. Gaughan, Auckland
* Miss Mary Cosgrove, Auckland
* Miss Teresa Cosgrove, Auckland (1920-2012?)
* Patrick William Cosgrove, Palmerston North
* Joseph George Cosgrove, Auckland
Archdeacon Holbrook conducted the service at the graveside

... 5
1875 - 1949 James Anthony Goutenoire Cosgrove
- married Maud Christina Nicholson in 1909
- their known children:
* 1911 - Kathleen Margaret Philomena Cosgrove
... see comments below
* 1918 - 1987 James Patrick John Cosgrove

... 6
1876 - 1905 George Edward Cosgrove
- George became Marist Brother Cormac
Wairarapa Daily Times, 31 January 1905 A cable message received at Waipawa last Thursday conveyed the intelligence of the death of Brother Cormac, better known throughout Hawke's Bay as George Edward Cosgrove. Deceased, who was the sixth son of the late Mr Patrick Cosgrove, of Waipawa, had been stationed at Suva for some time, and it was there he died of consumption. He was in his twenty-ninth year
New Zealand Herald, 7 February 1905 Brother Cormac, of the Marist Brothers Schools, Suva, who had been in delicate health for some months past, died on January 27. The flags in the town were lowered to half-mast out of respect to the deceased. The funeral took place on January 28, the Brothers and Sisters and pupils attending. The Rev Father Nicolas officiated. The deceased Brother arrived from Napier (New Zealand) about 10 years ago, and was highly esteemed by the Marist Brothers, and by the children attending the school

... 7
1878 - 1967 Ellen Mary Cosgrove
- Ellen married Francis MURRAY at Waipawa in June 1902. The after wedding social and dance was held in Mr Goldfinch's woolshed in Maharahara
- their known children:
* 1912 - 1951 John Erwin McElroy Murray

... 8
1880 - 1950 Josephine Margaret Cosgrove
- married David Galloway in 1903
- their known children:
* 1903 - 1994 Phyllis Alice Galloway
* 1904 - 1993 Lionel Gordon Galloway
* 1908 - 1999 Margaret Josephine Galloway

... 9
1881 - 1882 Mary Cosgrove
Daily Telegraph, 20 September 1882 COSGROVE - On 16th September, at Waipawa, Mary, infant daughter of Patrick Cosgrove, aged 17 months

... 10
1883 - 1964 Joseph Cosgrove
- nothing known at this time

... 11
1886 - 1963 Margaret Mary Cosgrove
- Margaret may not have married


Patrick McIlroy Cosgrove died 10 March 1904 in Waipawa
Margaret Josephine Cosgrove died 13 August 1926 in Woodville
- she is buried Grave 52, Block 17 at Old Gorge Cemetery, Woodville
NOTES from the database ... Her childhood was spent in Auckland, was the first teacher at a school in Newton. Married and moved to Napier. After, moved to Waipawa in 1878 before residing in Woodville


PHOTO
child #3 - Patrick John Cosgrove


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William Charles Thomas CLINGBERG - 1891-1953 Woodville New Zealand

William Charles Clingberg was a son of:
William Clingberg (1859-1919) and
Elizabeth Jane Lamb (1869-1956)
they married in 1888 in Wellington
- William Charles Clingberg (Klingberg) was born in Sweden in 1860, emigrated to NZ in 1873, died in Wellington. He worked for the Harbour Board. Both he and Elizabeth are buried in Karori

their children were:
1889-1920 Alice Christina Clingberg
- married Robert Marshall Rimmer in 1915

1890-1953 William Charles Clingberg
- married Helen Ismay Daphne Firmstone 1922

1893- Arthur Clingberg
- served in WWI
Serial Number - 2/2385
First Known Rank - Gunner
Next of Kin - Mrs E.J. Clingberg (mother) 21 Turnbull Street, Wellington
Marital Status - Single
Enlistment Address - 21 Turnbull Street, Wellington
Military District - Wellington
Body on Embarkation - 8th Reinforcements
Embarkation Unit - Field Artillery
Embarkation Date - 13 November 1915
Place of Embarkation - Wellington
Transport - HMNZT 35 OR 36
Vessel - Willochra or Tofua
Destination - Suez, Egypt
- nothing else known about Arthur after this ...

1895-1965 Ivy May Clingberg
- married Charles Henry Tollan 1922
- he was a son of John Tollan & Sarah Ann Roberts

1896-1984 Hilda Victoria Clingberg
- married Alfred Cecil Kellett 1921

1897-1977 Beatrice Estell Clingberg
- in 1913 Beatrice was taking Shorhand & Typing at Evening classes at Wellington Tech College
- married Gordon Reid Troup 1920

1899- Ruby Augusta Clingberg
- in 1912 Ruby was at Model School in Thorndon, Wellington
- married David McCubben Findlay (1867-1938) in 1928
- believe Ruby remarried after 1938
- David was first married to
- Ada Constance Rachel Smith in 1895


William served in WWI

Serial Number - 16509
First Known Rank - Gunner
Occupation before Enlistment - Clerk
Next of Kin - (father) 22 Turnbull Street, Wellington
Body on Embarkation - New Zealand Expeditionary Force
Embarkation Unit - 15th Reinforcements Specialist Machine-Gun Section
Embarkation Date - 26 July 1916
Place of Embarkation - Wellington
Transport - HMNZT 59 OR 60
Vessel - Waitemata or Ulimaroa
Destination - Devonport, England

He was wounded in May 1917

Julia Jane BEGG married William Warrand CARLILE settled Woodville NZ

Julia Jane Begg was the 4th daughter of 9 children of Agnes Warrand Wilson 1824 of Ireland and Samuel Begg 1812 of West Indies who arrived in New Zealand in 1860 and settled in Napier

She was privately educated
- a brother Samuel Begg (1854-1919) was born in London, studied art in Paris and joined the staff of the Illustrated London News. He was one of the best known black and white artists in London. He accompanied the Prince and Princess of Wales during their tour through India in 1905-06, was present at the wedding of Queen Victoria Eugenie in Madrid in 1906 and at the funeral of King Carlos in Lisbon in 1908. He married Ada Nelson of London
- a brother, Thomas Wilson Begg was born in London 1855 and moved to Sydney, NSW and married Rennee Wakeford (nee Fremlin). Renee had been married to Thomas Sydney Wakeford
- a brother John William Begg was born in Napier 1860, became articled to James Wren Carlile, to whom he owed his legal education. He was admitted a Barrister and Solicitor of New Zealand in 1886, and later with one of the leading firms of Solicitors in Melbourne, Australia. He married Caroline Crocker Honeysuckle, Violet Town, Victoria


In 1877, aged 21, Julia married her cousin William Warrand Carlile
- they did not have children

From the HAWKES BAY HERALD - Feb 1877
CARLILE-BEGG: At Napier, on 30 Jan, by the Rev David SIDEY, William W. CARLILE Esq to Julia Jane, fourth daugther of Samuel BEGG Esq.

William was, among other things:
- a member of the Hawke's Bay Education Board
- a member of the Woodville Road Board
- a Justice of the court
- President of the Woodville A & P Society
- Editor of the Hawkes Bay Herald until 1878
- in 1878 his interest was dissolved in the firm between him, Peter Dinwiddie and Thomas Morrison, "Stationers, Newspaper Proprietors, Printers and Publishers" of Napier

Julia drowned in Woodville aged 34 in 1891

From the BUSH ADVOCATE - 31st Jan 1891
DROWNING of Mrs W. W. CARLILE
We regret greatly to have to record the death by drowning of Mrs W. W. Carlile of Woodville. The deceased lady was bathing in the Manawatu yesterday and it is supposed got out of her depth. No particulars are yet to hand

From the EVENING POST - 31st Jan 1891
Mrs Carlile, the wife of Mr W. Carlile, settler of Woodville, was drowned this afternoon while bathing in the Mangaatua Creek. She was a lady very much esteemed here and also in Napier, in which place her parents were among the earliest settlers. Great sympathy is felt for Mr Carlile in his bereavement
- At the inquest on Mrs Carlile to-day, the jury returned a verdict of Accidental Death by drowning. The evidence showed that deceased, who was a good swimmer, had fainted in the water and though the boys bathing with her tried to rescue her they failed, owing to her helplessness. (A telegram received by Inspector Thomson respecting the sad occurrence, states that Mrs Carlile was bathing with her children. (nephews) An inquest will be held)

From the EVENING POST - 4th Feb 1891
OUR WOODVILLE LETTER
Two sad fatalities, one of a child and the other of a respected lady, have occurred here during the past week. The latter, in the person of Mrs Julia Jane Carlile, the wife of Mr Wm W Carlile, was a very painful event. Full of her usual spirit and vivacity, she had been seeing her sister off by the afternoon train to Napier, had gone from there to the post office and then shopping and speaking here and there to people she knew, until about 5 o'clock. She drove home to Broomfields and finding the children had gone to bathe, followed them and plunged into the water and swam out with them to a log in the middle of the stream. The children plunged into the stream to return. When about half way back one of the little boys noticed her throwing her arms in the air. He called out, "Quick, quick; let us help Auntie." They bravely returned and one getting hold of her hair and the other hold of her arm, tried to land her, but in vain. She appears to have been quite unable to make any effort and they were compelled, through exhaustion, to abandon her, when she sank and rose to the surface again and finally sank. There is something very painful about this kind and much-respected woman dying in the midst of these joyful children whilst sharing in their glee and there is something noble in the brave attempt those two little boys made to rescue her from death. Thre could be no surer proof of the deep affection in whih she was held and so well deserved. All Woodville is very sorry that they will miss her familiar face and her kind and cheering words, but they are more sorry for the bereavement of those who knew her worth in the home circle and are left to grieve her sad fate. Mrs Carlile had taken a very active part in the Benevolent Socity, of which she was practically the founder and for a long time the President and in every way she had been ready to assist in ameliorating the condition of the needy

Not yet known what happened to William, although he did remarry the following year, 29th April 1892, in Featherston to Mabel Martin Monckton who was born about 1866, one of 17 children of Frederick K Monckton and Ann Martin
William died aged 76 on the 11th January 1942 in Havelock North, Hawkes Bay (was living in Te Mata Road)

Percy Frederick CARLYON - Mevagissey Cornwall to Police Sergeant Otago to Dargaville, New Zealand

Percy Frederick Carlyon 1846-1920
was from Mevagissey, Cornwall, England
- he was a Police Officer
- became a Police Sergeant in Woodville for a time
- married Margaret (Maggie) Fitzsimmons 1853-1924
- Margaret was born in Helston, Cornwall, the 8th of 12 children toJames Fitzsimmons and Jane Strongman, a district nurse of Helston. They emigrated on the ADAMANT leaving London on the 8th July 1873, arriving in Lyttelton 17th October 1873 with 151 immigrants. They then caught the MAORI to Timaru
- Margaret had arrived with an illegitimate son

They had 8 (known) children in various places of New Zealand from Otago up to Dargaville (about 1200km qute a distance in early 1900s)
As Percy was a Police Sergeant they moved frequently because of his job.

Leonard Percy Carlyon 1879 - 1887
- born in Temuka
- died aged 8 in Woodville
- he is buried in the same plot here as brother Arthur who died 4 days previously aged 8

Clement John Carlyon 1881 - 1952
- born in Temuka
- married Annie Scott Cundy in 1909
- she was born 1884 in Greytown
- Clement died in Wellington
- buried Karori

Frederick Harold Carlyon 1883
- born in Otago
- moved to Australia
- There was a Harold Frederick Carlyon on the 1937 Electoral Roll of Wide Bay, Queensland

Lucy Alice Minna Carlyon 1884 - 1956
- born in Hawkes Bay
- married George Clifford Allis in 1913

Arthur Edmond Carlyon 1886 -
- born in Woodville
- died aged 14 months, 4 days after Leonard, buried together - died 4 days prior to brother Arthur who was 14 months old
- no reason yet found ...
- buried Old Gorge Woodville

Samuel Carlyon 1888-1915
- born in Woodville
- served in WWI, serial number 4/911A, Otago Infantry Battalion, New Zealand Engineers, lived in Otira, West Coast, embarked at Port Chalmers on the Ruapehu or Hawkes Bay
- Samuel was mentioned in Despatchers: London Gazette, 5 August 1915, p7668: Mentioned in General Ian Hamilton's despatch of 20th May 1915. (Commander Meditteranean Expeditionary Force)
- died of wounds in Gallipoli aged 26 on 1st June 1915
- buried Shrapnel Valley - Grave Reference: II. E. 6.
- his parents were then living back at Henley Street, Westport

Ada Carlyon born 1890 - 1965
- born in Gisborne
- never married
- buried with her parents at Orowaiti cemetery, Westport

Robert Tredenham Carlyon 1892-1960
- born in Dargaville
- married Margaret Shepard Stonebanks (1896-1974) in 1923
- He lived for a time at Opoutama, Hawkes Bay.
- His daughter Phyllis Gwavas Carlyon married in 1922 to:
- Malcolm William O'Callaghan Brodie
- died in Wellington
- buried Karori

Percy died aged 74 in Buller West Coast
Maggie died aged 71 in Westport, West Coast
- they are borth buried at the Orowaiti Middle cemetery Westport

From the TIMARU HERALD - 23rd May 1879
... Percy F Carlyon: I am Sergeant of Police stationed at Temuka. On the 28th instant I visited the scene of a fire outside the Winchester railway station ... etc

From the TIMARU HERALD - 1st April 1880
... Percy F. Carlyon: I am Sergeant of Police stationed at Temuka. On Saturday nith, 27th inst., I met accused ... etc

From the GREY RIVER ANGUS - 22nd June 1885
... CHRISTCHURCH, June 21 - At 2.30 this morning three men, W. Morr, A.F. Douglas and P. Douglas stuck up a foreigner named George Trugesen on the Madras street railway, violently assaulted him and robbed him of a parcel containing a suit of clothes. Sergeant Carlyon soon after arrested two of the, and shortly afterwards got the third man and recovered the property at Douglas's house

Fom the POVERTY BAY HERALD - 29th Jan 1886
... Sergeant Carlyon, a much esteemed officer of the police force, who has been transferred to Napier, has been entertained by his comrades in the force at a farewell supper

From the EVENING POST - 19th Feb 1886
... Sergeant Percy F. Carlyon to be Police Gaoler at Woodville

From the POVERTY BAY HERALD - 19th April 1886
... At Woodville Sergeant Carlyon was reprimanded by th R.N. for the too free use of his baton. This is hard to understand as o the occasion in question ten drunken navvies attacked the only policeman in the place so as to "know where to kick the coppers"

From the BUSH ADVOCATE - 26th Sep 1889
... Referring to the appointment of Sergt. Carlyon to the clerkship of the Court at Dannevirke the Woodville paper says:- "We do not see how Sergeant Carlyone is going to fulfil the duties for that court as well as the police and court duties at Woodville". We can only add that the appointment has given a great deal of dissatisfaction in Danevirke, for although the Sergt is admitted to be a courteous and obliging officer the fact of him residing so far away is a great objection and will give rise to difficulties in Court work both in Danevirke and Woodville.

From the POVERTY BAY HERALD - 4th June 1890
... Sergeant Bullen, who had been in charge of this district for the past nine years, has resigned his position in the police force. He retires on compensation, which is a month's pay for each year of service. The news of his retirement will be received with regret and surprise
... Sergt. Percy Carlyon from Woodville, Sergt Bullen's successor, arrived here (Gisborne) on Sunday morning

From the EVENING POST - 7th June 1890
... Sergeant Carlyon was presented last night with a purse of sovereigns on leaving for Gisborne. Sergeant Carlyon has been in charge of the police station here for about five years

From the EVENING POST - 11th Feb 1899
There is an interesting read about an escaped fugitvie that CONSTABLE Carlyon and his 2 sons, one being Clement, managed to capture. It says that Constable Carlyon of Featherston and his son brought in the prisoner. In 1899 Frederick was not a constable ... but read and if you can work it out please let me know HOW THE CAPTURE WAS MADE

From the NELSON EVENING MAIL - 23 Sep 1908
... Percy Carlyon, gaoler at Westport, in the course of his evidence said ... etc


A large CARLYON family tree

Michael Bell Travers 1857-1928 - Woodville New Zealand

Michael Bell Travers married Marion Christie Hulme in 1883

their children were:
1884-1947 Marion Christie Travers
- married William Hughes in 1906

1886-1887 Andrew Bell Travers
- died aged 7 months

1887 - Ann Bell Travers

1890 - Catherine Ellen Travers

1892-1971 Charles Eric Travers
- married Mabel Bridget Cavanagh in 1913
- she was a daughter of John Cavanagh & Bridget Ryan

1896-1977 Egmont Travers
- married Elizabeth Ann Monaghan in 1919

1898-1990 Ellen Travers
- married John Searle in 1924

4-6-1900-1900 Walter Alexander Huia Travers
- twin with Margaret
- died aged 2 months, buried Old Gorge Cemetery Woodville

4-6-1900-1997 Margaret Kathleen Irene Travers
- twin with Walter
- married Horace Edward Arnold in 1924
- he was a son of William Henry Arnold & Christina Robertson

1902 - unnamed baby Travers
- died aged 15 hours, buried Old Gorge Cemetery


Marion died at the birth of the unnamed child and they are buried in the same coffin - she was 36

Michael remarried in 1905 to
Margaret Hood Kennedy (1868-1942)