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GRACE ELLA PERRY
Born: 1908 Balwyn, Victoria, Australia
Parents: Edmund Henry Perry & Ellen Mahony
Married: Norman McCarthy or McCarthur or McArthur
MARY JONES nee Solden
Died 2nd May 1871 aged 46. Cause of death Phthisis? Buried 3rd May 1871
I cant find this burial. Hopefully buried with husband William
Edmond Howard Raymond Perry (Ray)
Born 1903, Carlton, Victoria to Edmund Henry Perry & Ellen Mahony
It was said that he never married and didnt have children
Where did he die?
Annie May Mahony
Born: 1894 Nirranda Victoria
Mother: Ellen Mahony
May have been using surname of Perry
Looking for the Marriage of Jane Jones and Unknown Brooks.
Jane was born England 1853 and died Jane Brooks, West Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 1925 (daughter of William Jones and Mary Solden)
Trying to find Army Records for English Army pre 1840
Census Records Pre 1840
Birth & Baptism Records Pre 1800
William Jones married Marry Solden at St Pancras, England in 1841
Any information on this Family would be much appreciated. I am uncertain what become of William Jones in Australia
I can not find a shipping record for this Family, who came to Victoria or South Australia between 1855-1859. It appears that some family members went to Tasmania after 1875. I was told as a child that members of the Solden Family had large land holdings in South Australia, including Kangaroo Island.
Desperate for shipping record and deaths of William. Their marriage certificate states that Mary Soldens Father as James Smith. I think that this is a mistake in Parish Records, as her adress was Smith Street. Ithink it should be James Solden.
Also trying to find information on William Solden's War Service pre 1840
William Jones born England 25th October 1796 (Occupation listed Pensioner, former Sergeant Army on sons birth cert. 1842)
Married Mary Solden (also known as Smith) 18th April 1841, St Pancras Chapel, England
Mary Solden born 21st October 1822
In 1842, family living at 9 Perry Street, Camden Town, Middlesex, England
Death of Mary Jones, 1871 Victoria Reg:3923
Mary Jones died 2nd May 1871 at Rosemary Lane, Geelong
Buried Geelong Cemetery 3rd May 1871
Cause of Death Phthisis
States she spent 3 years in South Australia and 6 years in Victoria
States Mary was born Somersetshire, England
William John Jones b.4th March 1842 England
Rose Hannah jones b. 8th June 1846 Amford? England
George Sidney b. 4th Nov 1848 died before 1871
Thomas Jones died before 1871
Mary Ann Jones b.31st January 1851 Leicestshire, England
Jane Jones b. 22nd June 1853
Elizabeth jones b.22 November 1854 England
Eve Jones b. 1859 East Collingwood, Victoria, Australia. Died Victoria 1860
Mary Ann Jones married Alexander Richard Dowd 11th November 1869, Fitzroy, Victoria
Elizabeth Jones married Halstein Johnson 9th November 1876, Bellarine, Geelong
Any information would be appreciated
McBefore European Settlement the Carrum Area was known as Karrum Karrum (the Aboriginal meaning for Boomerang).
It is believed that the area got this name as Aborigines rested at todays site of Olivers Hill, Frankston and looked in the distance at a sandy beach shaped like a Boomerang. Europeans would call this Long Beach or Nine Mile Beach. The area stretched from Frankston to Mordialloc.
CARRUM, also known as "Karum Karum", meaning "Boomerang". Also known to Europeans as "Garem Gam"
MORDIALLOC, known as "Moody Yalloak", meaning "Near the Little Sea" (Mordialloc Creek)
EARLYS SQUATTERS RUNS
The Long Beach or Nine Mile Beach Run was originally occupied by Joseph Stewart and transferred to James McMahon in 1852
Moody Yallock Run. In 1837 Michael Solomon had taken a Licence to Graze Sheep. The run was transferred to Benjamin & Willson 1842
The "Garem Gam" Run was taken over by Henry Jennings in 1853
BANYAN WATER HOLES, later named "Ballermerring" run at Carrum Downs.
BEILBY, John Wood married Catherine Ogilvy, Victoria 1850 (reg 2379). John died Beechworth, Victoria 1903, aged 86 years. Son of William Beilby & Maria Catherine Moller. The Beilby Station was called "Tirhatuan" the Aboriginal word for Land of the Flying Squirrel. This property was on the Dandenong Creek.
GEELONG ADVERTISER & SQUATTERS ADVOCATE
SUPREME COURT.(CONTINUED FROM OUR FIRST PAGE.) Thursday, July 29, 1847. John Wood Beilby was indicted for the murder of Charles Durrant, at the Glenelg, on the 21st May last. John Hughes deposed that Durrant had come to Beilby's station and taken away a filly, and that Beilby had enquired as to the direction in which Durrant went, and followed after him. Roderick Ercott deposed to having seen Beilby on the 21st May, he was riding very fast; he stopped and related how he had accidently shot Durrant, saying that the tether rope had got twisted round a stump, and the deceased tried to back the filly on him, at the time the pistol went off ; he was then riding for a doctor. Allen M'Donald, surgeon, described the wound on tlhe body of the deceased. Dr. Wilie, Mr M'Combie, Charles Lamb, Rev. Mr Forbes, Dr. Fletcher, Mr Bates. and Mr James Smith, gave evidence as to the good conduct of Ihe prisoner. The Jury retired, and after half an hours' de- liberation, returned a verdict of manslaughter. The prisoner was sentenced to pay a fine of one shilling, and be imprisoned till the fine be paid.
WEST GIPPSLAND GAZETTE 4th September 1900
AN OLD PIONEER. DISCOVERER OF CROSSOVER -GOLDFIELDS. In theLegislative Assembly recently Sir. John M'Intyre presented a peti tion from Mr. John Wood Beilby, of Beechworth, praying for consideration of his own and other pioneers' claims for aid towards the maintenance of themselves and their wives in the declining years of their life. Mr. Beilby states that he is almost the sole surviving pioneer of Victoria bush settlement in the early forties. He claims a share of the unpaid moiety of the vote of £1000 for the priority of information to the local Government on June 7, 1851, of a site of the discovery and working of Victorian gold, and also some consideration of the fact that he was the first to erect and work a sawmill in the colony, the traffic to and from which opened up Ferntree Gully. Another event in the ancient'history of the colony with which he was connected, and for which he cgnsiders he is entitled to some reward, is the discovery, in April, 1864, by himself and party, of the Crossover gold-fields. This, it is alleged, was the beginning of the settlement of Buln Buln and Gipps land by agriculturists. Parliament voted £10,000 for gold-fields dis coveiies in that year, but the peti tioner states that " owing to ill-feeling on the part of the then Secretary of Mines towards your petitioner his claim for self and party was per-. sistently ignored.
BESWICKE, Charles & James Lomax. Charles married Elizabeth Keys at Scots Church, Melbourne 10th February 1846. James Beswicke was killed in a Cart accident in 1844, aged 24 years. I believe that Charles was the Father of James Lomax and that Charle's marriage to Elizabeth Keys was his second
BROWN, Hugh born Stewartstown, Tyrone, Ireland 17th March 1830. Arrived Adeliade, South Australia 8th August 1855 and came to the Mordialloc District, Victoria in 1856.
FRASER, Major James
KEYS, George born Tyrone, Ireland C.1792. Died 8th October 1873 Keysborough, Victoria. Arrived Port phillip "Catherine Jamieson" 1841
The Argus 24th December 1881
A Mr. Macdonald, of Mordialloc, one of the first settlers there, was seen late on Monday night making his way home, and was subsequently missed. His hat was found the next morning floating on the creek, and it was at once surmised that he fell into the water, as he was supposed to be not quite sober . Mounted constable Strahan, assisted by the neighbours, spent several hours dragging the creek yesterday, and ultimately found the body in the creek at about 4 o'clock (Death reg.11425)
MCMAHON, James Born: 1806, Tyrone, Ireland
Married: MARIA KELLY (daughter of Robert Kelly & Isabella Carothers) in Tyrone
Died: 2nd October, 1872, Invercargill, South Island, New Zealand (Cancer of Liver and Stomach).
Arrival: “Strathfieldsaye”, Port Phillip, 30th August 1841
James McMahon obtained pre-emptive rights to a 2000 feet frontage where he built "Half Way House", also known as "Long Beach Hotel when a beer licence was obtained.
MCMAHEN,William Moore married Margaret Keys at The Scots Church, Melbourne 10th February 1846. Margaret was 14 years old and William 35 years. Died 13th October 1892. Buried cheltenham Pioneer Cemetery.
NEWTON, believed to be the first settler near Mordialloc Creek
SOLOMON, Michael. It appears that Michael Solomon arrived in the Port Phillip District. In 1837 he had taken out a licence to Graze Sheep in the Area Known as the "Moodie Yallo" or "Carrum Swamp" Run. By 1842 there was a slump in the price of Sheep and was declared insolvent. In 1846, Michael Solomon was convicted for a Jewel theft in Tasmania and sentenced to 15 years jail. He served 8 years and was released in 1854. By 1856, he was before the Court again accused of setting fire to his premisis to claim the insurance money. There was not enough evidence and the jury returned a verdict of Not Guilty.
WEDGE, Charles,Henry & John
WELLS, Henry born Hertordshire, England (no relation to Henry Cadby Wellls). Married Martha Elizabeth Cole. Wells Road is named after this Pioneer.
YOUNG, Mark came to the Melbourne in 1857 aboard "DAVID G FLEMING". After stints at the Victorian and New Zealand Goldfields he selected 187 acres in the Carrum Swamp. In 1887, the Young family moved to Frankston after his purchase of the Pier Hotel. President of Dandenong Shire Council
The Argus, 17th August 1876
THE CARRUM SWAMP SELECTORS.
The Minister of Lands dealt yesterday with a number of the cases of selectors who had taken up land in the Carrum Carrum Swamp, under the Lend Act of 1869, and who had partially failed to carry out the condition of residence. The cases came be- fore the Minister on applications for leases, the selectors appearing to nrge reasons why a strict compliance with the residence condi- tion should not be enforced. The first appli- cation was that of Peter Carrol, who had effected considerable improvements, having enclosed 20 acres of his selection, but to whom a lease had been refused for non-resi- dence. The applicant stated that for nine months of the year the land was overflowed with water, making residence vory undesir- able, and in addition to that, a considerable area of the selection was unfit for cultivation. It was now the intention of the selector to build a house and reside. It appeared that Carrol was a publican, and Mr. Gillies was doubtful whether the terms of his publican's licence would admit of residence ou his selection. Ho, however, expressed his will- ingness to order the issue of a fresh licence, Mark Young bad selected 170 acres, on which be had spent £709 in improvements ; 25 acres of the land had been cleared. The applicant bad resided on tbe land with his family from the 9th September, 1872, to July, 1874, con- tinuously, making 17 months' residence. He came to reside in Emerald-hill, to make money to support his family. He had never had any return from the land, not even sufficient to pay for the seed sown. It was also urged that Mr. Grant bad said that where the selector had proved his bona fides residence would not be insisted upon, Mr. Gillies admitted that the length of residence and the large amount of money spent on improvements made this a peculiarly hard case, but be could not see his way to relax the condition of residence in any case. He could only order that the land should be sold at £1 per acre, with a liberal valuation for improvements. The applicant said that the amount returned for improve- ments did not really represent all the outlay, as he had not charged for his own personal labour. Mr. Gillies recommended him to send in a fresh valuation for the improve- ments, which would be reported on by the Crown lands bailiff. J. D. Morris had selected 202 acres, and spent £391 on improvements. The applicant had applied for the issue of a grant, which had been re- fused on the ground of insufficient residence. Morris intimated that he bud not continually resided on the land himself, but that his family had done so. Mr. Gillies said he had not yet determined the question of family residence, and could not therefore decide the application, but expressed his intention of consulting the Crown law officers on the point. A similar application, made by a selector named Jos. Mason, received a like reply from the Minister. Malcolm M'Quean
made an application for his lease, stating that he had spent a considerable amount in improving his selection, but that it had been decided by the department that the residence condition was not fully complied with. Mr. Gillies said he could only order the land to be sold by auction, with a good valuation for the improvements. Joseph Clarke selected 140 acres, the improvements on which were valued at £84. The applicant resided at Carlton, and the decision of the Minister was
the same as in the last case. Donald M'Swain had selected 154 acres and spent £59 in improvements. As it was proved that he had not yet completed his improvements, he was allowed six months to do so, the Minister stating that nothing could be done
till the improvements were completed. Samuel Jeffray had selected 137 acres and effected improvements to the extent of £188. There was no cultivation on the land, and
the applicant admitted that he resided at Preston. Mr. Gillies said that the land should be sold at auction at £1
per acre, with a valuation for improve- ments. Henry Wells, a selector of 119 acres, stated that be resided for five months on the land, and had spent a large sum in improvements. The decision given was similar to that in the last case. D. Greaves, selector of 156 acres, with improvements valued at £185. The selector lived at Dande- nong, and had not complied with the resi- dence condition. The land was ordered to be sold on the same terms as in previous cases. Mark Foy, selector of 195 acres, with improvements valued at £600. The grant had been refused on the ground of non-residence. The appli- cant stated that his family had resided on the land for a considerable period, and that he had resided for 13 months himself, and frequently visited it. Mr. Gillies said he could do no more than in the previous cases —order the land to be sold by auction, with a fair valuation for improvements. J. W. Randell selected 200 acres, and spent £500 in improvements. Applicant stated that he had resided 200 days in each year on the land. Mr. Gillies did not think the condition had been fully complied with, and gave a deci- sion similar to the last. Several smaller holdings, in which the circumstances were the same, were dealt with in like manner.
HOW TO INCREASE, A SHIRE SUBSIDY. , The Age of Monday exposes what-it calls " The Carrum Swamp Ring,'" and shows how it manipulates shire revenues for its own advantage. The Carrum Swamp is a triangular shaped tract of land, having its base fronting the sea between Mordialloc and Frankston, a distance of ten miles. The rest of the swamp stretches back from the sea into the northward, and, gradually narrowing, terminates in a peak close up to the township of Dande- nong. The sides of the triangle measure approximately ten miles each; and the total amount of land within what is called the Carrum Swamp survey is about 12,000 acres. A family of the name of Keys, according to our contemporary, by themselves and by dummy selectors have managed to secure the central portion of the area, consisting of 5000 acres of the choicest soil in the centre of the survey. In addition to this they have the grazing monopoly of 700 acres Government land, known as the Sugar-beet reserve. Keys- borough is the name oft' their township, which occupies an elevated ridge nearly in the centre of the "Swamp," and the "dummy huts" of their selectors extend considerably beyond their present posses- sions. The powers of the Keys party at an election is estimated at 200 votes, and as the boundary line dividing the county of Mornington from South Bourke passes right through the centre of the Keys pos- sesssions their influence is a matter of in terest to Messrs G. P. Smith, J. B. Crews and Mr Purees. Running along the county boundary line, and consequently passing directly through the centre of the Keys estate, a drain has been constructed, which is thirty feet broad by two deep, and about six miles long, having its outlet to the sea at Mordialloc. The funds for the work have been contributed by a voluntary tax of one shilling per acre by the selectors interested, a large number, if not a majo- rity, of whom are the Keys family, and their attaches. This matter would be all legitimate enough, and very laudable, if conducted in a bona fide manner for the general benefit of a resident population; but, in addition to the fact that the drain- age works do not benefit much other land than that in which the Keys are interested, this matter has special features worthy of note. The Dandenong Shire Council is composed of three ridings-the south, the middle, and the north. The Carrum Swamp is in the south, and the township of Dandenong in the middle riding, the ratepayers in which latter state that Mr John Keys, who is the secretary and engi- neer for the shire council, has for the last four years, by means of the returns show- ing the rateable value of the south riding, obtained a larger portion of the Govern- ment subsidy than the council has been entitled to. The charge is that the secre- tary has made the 1s per acre contributed by one rriding, and by only a few in that locality for a special purpose beneficial only, to themselves, to appear on the rate books as '"general rates," on which basis the Local Government Act specifies the proportion of £2 to £1 annually granted by the Government only can be obtained. The middle riding ratepayers repudiate all connection with thiis matter, and state that the irregularity has been continually per- petrated by the means of packing the council with members of the ring interested in this special work of drainage, which does not concern or benefit the ratepayers in the other two ridings.
I would appreciate any information regarding The Frankston Fishermen
Long before the Settlement of Frankston, Fishermen were visting the Frankston area and setting up temporary Camps near Kananook Creek.
Besides Grazing and the Timber Industry, Fishing would become the Primary industry.
THE FRANKSTON FISH COMPANY
John Dixon Box
James Crosskell died Frankston 1916
OTHER FRANKSTON FISHERMEN
William, Edward, Roger & Alfred Burton
George Laudher died 1867 (Heart Attack while Fishing)
By A. L. EARL
One can travel the round of Port
Phillip Bay without finding an older and more experienced team of fisherman than the seaoned, sun-tanned professionals of Frankston. Numbering eight all told, they follow their calling with varying fortune. They declare that they have known, and still know, very lean times in the netting business, when "two shots" gave them not even a scale, let alone a "fish", but against this theyhave their "rosy days,"
as they term them, and many are the truths, not mere fish yarns, told of the
"hefty bunts", of pike, salmon,schnapper, yellow tail, mullet, and garfish which the sea gives up to them. These men are wonderful "beach-combers ", by which is meant inshore fisherman, using a seine net, which is hauled from the beaches. They rarely make a false "shot" in the day time, for the simple reason that they do not "shoot" the net unless they discover a shoal of fish. To the fishermen of Frankston this is easy, for they are able to stand on Oliver"s Hill, or on the pier and owing to the clearness of the water, "spot" a shoal fully half a mile away.
Each man of the present team will declare that he has had a "longer experi- ence at the "game"than the rest. The Burton boys will go back as far as the time when the "Kannanook Creek had a depth of 16ft at the mouth. That was 40 years ago". "Frank" as he is known,
"remembers the time when Frankston had a fish-curing industry run by Chinese". If one should ask him how many years ago that wa,s he will say, "Before the Burtons".
Until about a year ago there was old "Mac", who daily sold fresh fish outside one of the leading hotels of the town. He was a canny old Scot and "butter fish" was invariably the variety of fish he had to offer. Whether it happened to be parrotfish, gummy shark or skate, it was all one to "Mac", who used to tell me that the "public will swaller anything".
"Ted" McComb,the "colt" of the band is the conspicuous figure. He is something more than a fisherman, for he has on very many occasions saved lives from being lost by drowning. Many thrilling rescues are of times recalled, but not by the man him- self. "Ted" has his own ideas about fish, but I never could believe in his theory that schnapper kept longer when cleansed in sea water than when cleansed in fresh, or that whiting became blind in winter, and therefore were not hooked in that season. But whaterever differences of opinion these fisherman have about fish and fishing, they are a fine lot of men, and every way a credit to the district wherein they resign.
11 July 1892, The Argus
RECOVERY OF A MISSING
To day whilst one of the Rosebud fishermen named Patrick Victor was pursuing his avocation in the south channel he observed a large boat floating bottom up. He sailed alongside and made fast to it, and at- tempted to tow it to the shore. Owing to the wind being off the land and his boat being a small one he, after beating about for some time, was obliged to cast off the wreck, which then floated away in the tide. Subsequently an employe of the dredge John Nimmo named Peter was sailing towards the shore when he observed the floating boat. He made fast to it and took it in tow, but after vainly beating about for three hours he was constrained to let it go, but before doing so he took the anchor from his own boat, and fastening it to the other boat anchored it and came to the shore. The local police were communicated with, and will tow the boat ashore. The name "Swanson"is painted on it, and consequently it is supposed to be the lost one which was capsized on Wednesday last with two Frankston fishermen, Swanson and Nilson, on board.
Thomas Kelly was born circa 1822 in Tyrone Ireland. His Parents were Robert Kelly and Ann Greer
Thomas arrived in Victoria on the 30th August 1841 aboard the Ship “Strathfieldsay”, aged 18 years. He was the first of his Family to arrive in Australia. I think he may have come out with his Aunty Maria McMahon
Thomas married Bridgett Bourke at St Francis Catholic Church, Melbourne, Victoria in 1844. Thomas Kelly died in Northcote, Victoria in 1908.
Bridgett's Parents were John Bourke & Margaret Meaney
Kilmore Free Press 5th May 1887
A fire occurred on Sunday evening at half past eight o'clock, upon the premises of Mr Thomas Kelly, New Township, and were it not for the prompt assistance rendered, the tenement, a brick one, would have been completely destroyed and we would most likely have to record the tragic end of one or more persons as it was two little girls were badly burned about the legs, and nearly everything in their room they slept in was destroyed. It appears that three girls, slept in the front of the house and in the room at the north end, and the fire originated through the candle they were using in going to bed being left lighting and communicating with some in flammable material. About the first persons outside to notice the flames were Constable Bernussi and Mr. P. Skehan. They ran to the scene of the conflagration, where the Con stable displayed pluck and activity by diving straight through the window, but by this time Mrs Kelly had, in a most plucky manner, and in the midst of the suffocating flames and smoke, rescued the children from the room, and if it were not for her promptness some of I the occupants would doubtless have fallen 1 victims to the flames, which were raging furiously. By this time a number appeared on the scene, foremost amongst whom was Mr. Ryan and his men, the gentleman named on his arrival entered the passage and burst the bed room door open, and rescued Mrs Douglas, who was in a semi-unconscious state from the smoke, from her perilous position. As all the souls were now out of the building attention was turned to the subduing of the flames, which were speedily got under. We understand that the damage caused by the fire is estimated at about £35.
Kilmore Free Press 9th July 1908
Mr. Thomas Kelly, who died in Melbourne during the week, was an old colonist and a kindly man. He was one of the earliest settlers in the Whittlesea district, about 60 years ago, and was then in a good position, but subsequently met with reverses. He had been long resident in this district and prior to leaving for Melbourne was located in the New Township. Many old friends will bear him in kindly recollection.
Kilmore Free Press 3rd September 1908
Mrs B. Kelly, relict of the late Mr Thomas Kelly, whose death at Melbourne we an- nounced a few months ago, died last week. Deceased, who was a kindly, estimable lady, was a very old colonist, and most of her time was spent in the Kilmore district, being resident in the New Township prior to her moving to Melbourne some little time back. She was of a very genial, kindly nature, and made many friends. She was sister to the late Mr Lawrence Bourke, who represented Kilmore for six years anterior to 1874. The remains were brought to Kilmore for interment, which took place in the Catholic Cemetery, Father O'Dwyer reading the burial service. Mr James Beegan had charge of the funeral arrangements.
Children of Thomas Kelly and Bridget Bourke:
1.Catherine Kelly died 1849
2.Mary Ann Kelly
3.Margaret Kelly born 1847 at plenty River, Victoria
4.Thomas Kelly died in Victoria in 1853
5.John Kelly died Moranding Victoria 1862
FATAL ACCIDENT. A boy named Kelly was killed on Saturday last, in consequence of being thrown from his horse, and dragged on the ground while one of his feet was entangled in the stirrup. His parents reside at Moranding, and he was on his way home at the time of the accident. Kilmore Examiner, Aug. 21
6.Catherine Kelly born 1852, Victoria
7.Thomas Kelly born 1853 died 1853
8.Patrick Kelly born 1855, Cambellfield, Victoria
9.Lawrence Kelly born 1856
10.Agnes Kelly born 1857, Kilmore, Victoria. Died 1864 in Victoria (Drowned)
12.John Edmund Cornelius Kelly born 1866 Kilmore, Victoria. Died 1951, Camberwell, Victoria.