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I am looking for Samuel Long or possibly (John) Trent born circa 1778 in England. he would have had a son John born circa 1814 and a daughter Mary born circa 1808.

According to the 1841 census for Newington,Surrey, Samuel age 63 was no born in Surrey, Mary age 33 is entered below him, also not born in Surrey and below her name there is a John age 6 who was born in Surrey.
Above these names is a John age 27, not born in Surrey and Ann his wife age 25 along with a son Samuel, which should have read William Samuel, age 2 both are born in Surrey.
John and Ann married in 1835, their first child John was born in 1836, so I am wondering if the child John marked with Samuel and Mary is the same John. The age matches.
If this is correct, I would like to think that Samuel is John's father and Mary his sister.
I haven't been able to find any records of a Samuel Long, nor a Samuel John born in England. There are numerous Samuel Trent's but nothing that matches up with having a wife named Mary who would have been born in 1808.
Somerset and Dorset seem to be where most of the Trent families lived, with a few exceptions.
If there is anyone out there with the name Samuel in their Trent family Tree, your assistance would be greatly appreciated to solve this puzzle.

Trents from England to South Africa

My family of Trent's came out to South AFrica circa 1848.

They were John Trent and Ann Lawrence Trent born Cooper, they married in 1835 in St George the Martyr, Southwalk, Surrey in 1835.
I have pretty much covered finding who their children were that were born in England and those born in South Africa.
I am still trying to tie up the children from those children. To many same names, and not to perfect death notice entries. Sure makes researching complicated.
I am going to try concentrate on finding the parents for John then tackle Ann's, her one seems complicated.
So far all I know that on the 1841 census for Newington, Surrey, it stated that John was not born in the county of Surry.

Just below him is a Samuel Long (could possibly be John) Trent age 63 and a Mary Trent age 33, both also not born in Surrey. This leads me to think that "maybe" this is John's father and possibly his sister, as his son John born in 1836 is marked down under their names. Age 6. I have searched for all Samuel's born circa 1778 but am having no joy finding a marriage record or birth record for him or for John Trent who moved to Surrey.
Hopefully with the help of this site someone is connected and I will be able to fit together the missing pieces of the big family tree puzzle.