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Where did they go? MORAN, VEAL, Yorkshire, Durham.

Query by Shortstuff

Trying to find out how & when the HILTON name came into the family line, I made a sudden discovery that Hilton was not as a surname, but a given name - Hilton Mary VEAL, who married Edward MORAN, a paper maker, in 1846. She is in the 1841 Census (indexed as Peal) working as a servant in Richmond, Yorkshire. After their marriage, they remain in Richmond, and are in the 1851 Census (as MORNE), 1861 & 1871 (both as MORAN) - and then they vanish. They had only 2 daughters (going by the Censuses): Elizabeth (b.1850) and Sarah (b.1857). When their daughter Elizabeth gets married in 1885, she uses the spelling MORN. There seem to be hundreds (well, dozens)of Edward Morans up in the North of England (although this Edward was born in Dublin).

No doubt the name Hilton was a surname further back in time. It is possible that Edward died & she remarried to a man who preferred her to be called Mary, so that is the name she would have in the 1881 Census. Or she died & Edward remarried. Or maybe they retired back to Dublin.

Do these family names fit into anybody else's research?

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on 2012-12-28 21:56:11

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by asheppard on 2012-12-29 17:33:26

This is possibly Hilton's death, found on Freebmd.org.uk

Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%)
Moran Hilton 50 Richmond Y 9d 366

Do you have a copy of the marriage for daughter Elizabeth in 1885 it may give more clues, it will tell you if Edward was deceased at time of her marriage.

by asheppard on 2012-12-29 18:11:41

This could be Edward's death also found on freebmd

Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%)
Moran Edward 62 Richmond, Y. 9d 407

possibles for children in 1881 Census

Elizabeth Morne b1853 Richmond Machinist at Tower Street Richmond

Sarah Morn b1858 Richmond Night Nurse at Durham County Asylum Sedgefield Durham

Elizabeth's marriage will confirm if her father was deceased.

Do you have a copy of Hilton & Edwards Marriage it should give you Hilton's some details on her father.

by Shortstuff on 2012-12-30 05:19:50

Embarrassed thanks - when I was searching through FreeBMD, I was still looking for the Morn(e) spelling. Yes, Edward was noted as deceased in Elizabeth's marriage cert. Interesting that you picked up Sarah at Sedgefield - there is a family legend about someone having been "in" there or having "died there".
We have sent away for the marriage cert for Ed & Hilton - still waiting - it will probably be delayed in the Xmas/New Year closures.
Thanks again.

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