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WILLIAM MUNSIE AND ALFRED DEAKIN, THE (CO-) FATHER OF FEDERATION, VIC., AUST. (and his West Bourke fans.)

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Should I include William Munsie in my Bulla or Broadmeadows journal? He was a pioneer of the north east side of Deep Creek road, having bought 28 acres 26 perches from John Carre Riddell in 1861; this land in the north east corner of section 7,Tullamarine, was transferred by the grantee,J.P.Fawkner,to Riddell as part of the exchange in which Fawkner became owner of the part of Riddell's section 6 cut off by the road. Being east of Victoria St (now indicated by the northern end of today's Mercer Drive) this was part of Bulla for about a century before becoming part of the Broadmeadows municipality.

Sir Henry Parkes and Alfred Deakin probably deserve equal recognition as the Father of Federation just as Ron Barrassi and Ted Whitten both carried the mantle of Mr Football. One of Fawkner's most ungenerous deeds was his attempt to deprive John Batman acknowledgement of being at least co-founder of Melbourne.

William Munsie didn't make it into the newspapers very often. The following 1887 article is a corker because it mentions many prominent citizens in the far-flung West Bourke electorate. Alfred Deakin had a connection with Tullamarine other than as a parliamentarian. His wife, Pattie (nee Browne), spent her early childhood on Camp Hill (now Gowanbrae)at about the same time that William Munsie settled in Tullamarine.

I'm not sure whether William Munsie's biography even made it into VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS but he is certainly mentioned in Fred Wright's 1888 biography. Let's check DHOTAMA. See COMMENT 1.



The digitisation of the following could not be corrected on trove because the FIX THIS TEXT box could not be seen. I will save it as is,in case the oh noes gremlins are lurking,and fix it later.
RETURN OF MR. DEAKIN. OVERLAND DEMONSTRATIONS.
The Bacchus Marsh Express (Vic. : 1866 - 1918) Saturday 25 June 1887 p 2 Article.
EXTRACT ONLY.

The following is a copy of the address:
To the Honourable Alfred Doakin, Barrister-at-.
Law, M.L A., Chief Secretiry ?od., Minister
of Water Supply of the Coloay of Victoria.
Dear Sir,-On behalf of your constituents in the
electorate of West Bourke, of which you are one of
the Parliamentary representatives, we have much.
pleasurein cordially welcoming you on returning to
your native land.
The lmperial Conference recently held in the
capital of the Empire, and of which body you wereo
oneof thedelegates representing the colony of Vic:
toria, will always live in history as the beginningof
a series of similar conferences which will most pro
bably achieve the federation of the Empire in a
manner entirely in consonance with the constitu
tional met hodsof the mother country, and yet leave
thecomponent self-governing cm munities owning_
allegianceto the British throne completelyin poss
ession of their present privileges and rights.
We rejoice to know that you took a very worthy
part in that conference, more especially in respect
to maintaining the inherent tight of Australasian
colonists to enjoy a paramount influence for. all,
time to come in the Southern Pacific and adjacent
territories. .
We have heard with gratification that Her Ma
jesty's advisers recommended that you shouldl be
offered a Knight Companionslip of the Order of St.
Michael nod St. George, wlhich distinction; however,
you wisely, in our opinion, declined to acceptat the
present stage of your career. .
We have also noticed with satisfaction your?
efforts to promote the success i-f theCentenuial
International Exhibition to be held in Melbourne
in 1888, and we feel assured that your visit -to
Europe, and interchange of ideas and courtesies
with most of the leading statesmen of the present
day cannot but be of mutual advantage to them
and the people they represent and to yourself and
the people of Victoria, in whose service as a legis
lator we trust you may for many years remain.
Wishing you, with Mrs. Deakin and family, long
life and happiness, we beg to subscribe ourselves
your admirers and well wishers.
MARK KYLE, Bacchus Marsh, chairman and
Hon. Secretary.
BAcclus MARsn.- Thos. Anderson, J. E. Crook,
Thos. Cain, J.lP., C. Crisp, G. Dickie, J.P., Thos.
Hleath.
BrLacKwooD.-Andrew Buchanan, R. Cameron,
J.P., Jas. Ferguson, J.P., Matthew Rogers. J.P.,
Wmn. Shaw, Benjamin Trewhella, J.P., David
Wightman.
CoIaADAnT.-J. Bourke, G. Burnip, W. Jeffrey,
W. By. MI'Farlane, J. Young.
DARRAWEIT Guosn.-W. J. Lobb, J.P.
ESSENDON AND FLEOIINGTON.--R. C. Barrett,
J.P., J. Connor, J. N. Danugerfield. A. Graham, T.
II. Jennings, J.P, (Mayor) A. I'Lean. J.P., A.
Swan, Jus. Taylor, J. Wilson, J.P. (Mayor). T.
Learmonth.
GIsBonNE.-R? . Cantwell, H. R. Dixon, J.
Gardiner, Edward Lansdowno, J.P., J. W. Webb,
J.P.
KEcL.on.-John Beale, Henry Delahay, Robert
G. Ely, David Milburn, J.P., Wm. Taylor, J.P.
LANCEFIELD.-W. Derrick, Francis Foy, J.P.,
H. L. Galbraith, J.P., R. S. Graham, J.P.,
R. Hemphill, James Lockwood, J.P.
MYRNIo?o.-G. Grant, J.P., R. Hornbuckle, W.
Lyle, J.P., It. Lidgett, T. Low.
MELTON.-A. Blackwood, A. Cameron, T. A.
Grant, W. S. Harkness, J.P., Jus. Kitson, A.
Shebler, jun.
MACEDoN.-Thos. Christian, Chas. Cogger,
George Nicholls, Alfred Turner, William Thomas
Willey.
No?rT BaLLAN..-Jobn Andrew, Edward Blake,
J.P., John Graham, J. H. Potter, Denis Ryan.
NEwosar.-John Adams, J. T. Anderson,
Richard Adams, Edward Gibbs, John Keating.
RIDDELL8s CREEK.-Robert Dodridge, George
Maxted, Archibald Notman, E. R. Priestly, J.P.
Winm. Somerville, J.P.
RoesEY.-G. Blackburn. W. T. Moffat, J.P., F.
O. Neal, William Wilson, J.P., H. C. White.
SuvN.uty.-John Eadie, J.P., Peter Eadie.
TULLAMARINE.-Wm. Dpwari, WVm. Munsie.

gREMLIN INSURANCE!
MUNSIE, DEAKIN,PARKES, BROWNE,KYLE, ANDERSON,CROOK, CAIN, CRISP, DICKIE, HEATH?, BUCHANAN, CAMERON,FERGUSON, ROGERS, SHAW, TREWHELLA, WIGHTMAN, BOURKE,BURNIP,JEFFREY,MCFARLANE,YOUNG, BARRETT,CONNOR, DANGERFIELD, LOBB,GRAHAM,JENNINGS,MCLEAN, CANTWELL,DIXON, GARDINER, LANSDOWNE, WEBB, BEALE,DELAHEY, ELY, MILBURN,TAYLOR, DERRICK,FOY,GALBRAITH,GRAHAM, HEMPHILL, LOCKWOOD, GRANT, HORNBUCKLE,LYLE, LIDGETT, LOW, BLACKWOOD,HARKNESS, KITSON, SHEBLER, CHRISTIAN, COGGER, NICHOLLS, TURNER, WILLEY,ANDREW, BLAKE, GRAHAM,POTTER,RYAN,ADAMS, ANDERSON,GIBBS,KEATING, DODRIDGE, MAXTED, NOTMAN, PRIESTLY, SOMERVILLE,BLACKBURN, MOFFAT, O'NEAL, WILSON,WHITE, EADIE, DEWAR,

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by itellya on 2014-02-01 20:26:33

WILLIAM MUNSIE (DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND.)
DHOTAMA was written to acknowledge thousands of pioneers not given prominence elsewhere. The article about Alfred Deakin was William's only mention in the only likely sources on trove.

M.2. William Munsie and others of his family were buried in row 2 of the Methodist section in the Bulla cemetery. William died at the age of 74 on 6-8-1894. (Neil Mansfield's BULLA CEMETERY INDEX will probably give further details.)

M.92. Frederick Wright's 1888 biography (Victoria and its Metropolis)states that he served his apprenticeship to the trade of blacksmith and wheelwright with Mr Munsie,owner of the premises he now leased,Mr Munsie having retired in 1883 when Fred bought the goodwill of the business.

William Munsie's biography on page 431 of Alexander Sutherland's book states:
"MUNSIE, William, Bulla,is a native of Dumfries,Scotland, who landed in Melbourne in September,1850 and resided there for 18 months following his trade of blacksmith."

In summary,he then carried on his trade at Swan Hill (8 months)and went to the diggings at Ballarat and Castlemaine for 18 months,doing very well,before settling at Bulla (Melway 5, part D-E7 (north east of today's Melrose Drive.)This indicates that he leased his portion of Riddell's Camieston Estate before buying it in 1861.

He had married twice but had no children living in 1888. As he was buried next to Wallis Wright (father of Fred), he was most likely a Methodist and Fred might have been his nephew.

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