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I THOUGHT THEY WERE ONE AND THE SAME. The original Greenvale State School was at Melway 178G4 near the east corner of Somerton and Section Rd. The modern suburb of Greenvale started on Hughie Williamson's "Dunvegan" on the south east corner of Somerton and Mickleham Rd and the modern school there retains the original school's number. Percy Hurren is recorded in the school's history as the teacher there from 1936-38.

Dalkeith was a 200 acre farm,(Melway 5F-J12 and south to Sharps Rd) now the residential area fronting the western side of Broadmeadows Road Tullamarine from Sharps Rd, extending north to the midline between Janus St and Catherine Avenue. Percy Hurren was the last owner of the farm, now consisting of 160 acres, as Loft's subdivision extending west to include Gordon St house blocks consisted of 40 acres.

When I had moved from Tullamarine to Rosebud, I was writing a history of Moorooduc and by the greatest stroke of good luck somebody suggested that I should speak to David Shepherd. David and his wife both knew Percy Hurren well as Percy was the postmaster at Jones Corner, Moorooduc (Melway 146 K 12.) Mrs Shepherd had known Percy since she was a youngster in a small town near Swan Hill and recalled Percy snoring at services in church. Although it was a long shot I asked if he knew where Percy had moved to. David told me that Percy had bought a farm up near where they built the airport.

As it's only about 10km from Tullamarine to Greenvale I thought that Percy was returning to his old stamping ground in c.1950. That's what I thought! The teacher was a completely different person. I'm writing this journal to prevent HURREN researchers from making the same mistake.

I stated in a recent post that Percy Hurren who used to snore in church near Swan Hill, and was the postmaster at Moorooduc in (1950?????see end of journal) before shortly afterwards moving to Tullamarine to become the last one to own and farm "Dalkeith", was the teacher at Greenvale State School 1936-8. There were only two deaths of a Percy Hurren on Victorian BDM, both in 1950, so neither of them was Percy Hurren of the Swan Hill area, Moorooduc and Tullamarine. One of them was Percy Vincent Hurren, the schoolteacher.
AFTER the expiration of fourteen clear days application will be made to the Supreme Court of Victoria In its Probate jurisdiction that PROBATE of the LAST WILL dated the eighteenth day of July 1942 of PERCY VINCENT HURREN late of 26 Eva street Malvern, school teacher, deceased, be granted to Edward Richard Hurren, of 4 Austin street, Hawthorn, clerk, a brother of deceased and the sole executor appointed by the said will.(P.19, Argus, 7-12-1950.)


Event:births Registration number6703 / 1901 Family name:HURREN Given name(s)Percy Vincent
Place of event:SOUTH YARRA, Australia Mother's name, Annie Julia nee BANNON Father's Name:Richd

HURREN Percy Vincent Death mother: Julia Ann nee BANNON father:HURREN Richard Michael
Places of birth and death:SOUTH YARRA, MALVERN age, year, reg. no. (49, 1950, 13274/1950)

Extract from: greenvale primary school 1868-2010
SM means sewing mistress/assistant. CSD probably means ceased. THT may mean temporary head teacher.

George H Hancock 1868 – 1878 Left to return overseas
Robert W Watts 1878 – 1889
Clara H Sargeant (Mrs Nielsen) 1889 – 1890
Alfred A Lewis 1891 – 1895
E. Waters 1895 – 1896 1st May until George Watkins took over 1896
George H Watkins 1896 – 1901
John E Hanigan 1901 – 1912 Retired to Wonthaggi - Died June 1914 William Ruth 1913 – 1914 Retired 1950
Alice A Worboise 1915 – 1921 Csd 1922
Alexander C Mills 1922 Retired 1927
Ernest R Malcolm 1923 – 1925 Csd 1951
Ellen J Boyes 1926 – 1929 Retired 1960
Kevin J Borrack & (Caroline Hocking S M) 1929 – 1934 Died 1958
Mary C Fahey (T.H.T) S M 1934 Resigned 1948
Rose J Barnett (T.H.T.) S M 1935 Retired 1974
Percy Hurren 1936 – 1938
Maxwell R Sprake 1939 – 1942 No further record available

In October 1938 P.V.Hurren received a promotion, obviously to another school.

Patrick Vincent Hurren was elevated to fourth class in 1949 but had little time to enjoy his achievement.

Tulla's Percy was actually George Percival the father of Leonard Percival Hurren who died at Red Cliffs in 1931.
Leonard Percival Death
mother, Lilian neeHALL
father, HURREN George Percival
place of death, RED CLIFFS
age, year, (12 Days,1931, 6864/1931)

Tullamarine's Percy's wife died in 1936.
HURREN (nee Hall). —On the 11th August, at Tasma private hospital, Red Cliffs, Lily, dearly beloved wife of Perc, eldest daughter of James Hall, Bentleigh, sister of Florrie (Mrs.Harold Besant, Heatherton), Annie (Mrs. C.Rochfort, Mildura), R. Hall (Bob, Bentleigh), and Effie (Mrs. K. Power, Malvern). (Interred Red Cliffs 12th August.) — At rest. (P.7, Argus, 15-8-1936.)

HURREN Lilian Death
mother: Margt nee SWANSEA
father: HALL James
Place of death:RED CLIFFS
Age, year, Reg. No. (41, 1936, 18087/1936)

These would seem to be the birth and death records of Tulla's Percy.
Event:births Registration number6920 / 1896
Family name:HURREN Given name(s)Geo Percival
Place of event: ST ARNAUD, Australia
Mother's name Charl Ellen
Mother's family name at birthDAVIS
Father's Name, Geo

HURREN Percival George Death,
mother: Charlotte nee DAVIES
father: HURREN George
place of birth: St Arnaud
place of death:Blackburn South
age, year, (76, 1972, 23212/1972)

Bad idea mate. He left in August 1947! He and Mrs Hurren and their juvenile daughters! Had George Percival Hurren remarried?

Event:marriages Registration number14541 / 1944
Family name:FARISH Given name(s) Doreen Mavis
Spouse's family name:HURREN
Spouse's given name(s)Percival George

Mr. P. G. Hurren said he would remember Moorooduc for there he obtained a son and heir. When he took over his business he realised that certain service would be required of him by customers. In the post office and store he and his wife had striven to give that service. From the remarks of previous speakers, he believed they considered such service had been given. That realisation was a source of gratification to him.
(P.5, Standard, Frankston, 28-8-1947.)

It is likely that the following deceased was the grandfather of Percival George Hurren's second wife. You will recall that Percy was born at St Arnaud, had a son* who died, only 12 days old, at Red Cliffs and that his first wife, Lilian, died at Red Cliffs where she was buried. (*No wonder Percy, almost 50, was so delighted to have had a son and heir born at Moorooduc!) The Hurren and Farish families may have ventured from St Arnaud to Red Cliffs together. There's a great chance that Peter's son,Will of Red Cliffs, was William Peter Farish** who with Doreen Mavis Farish is listed with other pioneers, such as Lilian Hurren, buried in the Red Cliffs cemetery***.

**MILDURA. At the police court William Peter Farish, of Red Cliffs, was fined £5 for aiding and abetting William Holden to drive an unregistered truck. Holden was fined £2.(P.11, The Age, 24-8-1932.)


FARISH.— On the 16th January, at 67 Pridham-street. East Prahran, Peter Farish, late of St. Arnaud, beloved husband of Louisa Farish, and loving father of Hellen Elizabeth (deceased) (Mrs. M. Peagam, Melbourne), Jim (Horsham), Mary(Mrs. Morton, Preston). Daisy (Mrs. J.Tarry, Green's Creek), Eva (Mrs. C. Hunt,Prahran), Violet (deceased), Ruby (Mrs. W.Spiby), Will (Red Cliffs), Pearl (Mrs, W.Amos, Sea Lake), Nell (Mrs, V. Horton,Bendigo). (P.1, THE AGE, 18-1-1937.)


Mr Wilding (who wrote the history of the Mornington Peninsula, published in the Mornington Standard in 1905) and Mr Mann (who wrote the Early History of Mount Eliza, published by the progress association, printed by the Standard, in 1926) were certainly worthy of praise but how could I quote their fabulous contributions (without raising chuckles and skepticism) if I could not identify which of the numerous Messrs. Wilding or Mann I was quoting. Journals have been written about each but here are their identities.

Regimental number1318
Place of birthBolton England
ReligionChurch of England
OccupationLand agent
AddressCoope Street, Cheltenham
Marital statusMarried
Age at embarkation37
Next of kinMother sic, Wife, Mrs C E* Wilding, Coope Street, Cheltenham
Enlistment date29 June 1915
Rank on enlistmentPrivate
Unit name29th Battalion, D Company
AWM Embarkation Roll number23/46/1
Embarkation detailsUnit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A11 Ascanius on 10 November 1915 Rank from Nominal RollPrivate
Unit from Nominal Roll29th Battalion
FateKilled in Action 26 October 1916
Place of burialCaterpillar Valley Cemetery (Plot II, Row B, Grave 7), Longueval, France
Panel number, Roll of Honour,Australian War Memorial 116
Miscellaneous information from cemetery records
Parents: Joseph and Anne WILDING.

Anne Wilding (1839-26/7/1914, spouse Joseph)and Robert Wilding (1865-2/12/1923, par Joseph & Anne) are buried in the Flinders cemetery. I have been unable to find Anne's maiden name. There are no details about Robert Wilding's parents in his death record but there are in the cemetery record.

WILDING.—On the 2nd December, 1923, at private hospital, Robert Wilding, of Flinders and Melbourne, aged 58 years.(p.1, Argus, 3-12-1923.)

WILDING—BEESTON.—On the 5th of April, at Christ Church, South Yarra, by the Rev. Canon Tucker,Leonard, youngest son of the late Joseph Wilding of Flinders, Victoria, to Constance Eva* , youngest daughter of Robert Beeston, of Hawthorn-road, Caulfield.
(P.1, Argus, 15-4-1907.)

MANN. — On November 27. In hospital, John Gilbert Mann, of Harbury. Frankston, beloved brother of Frederick Wollaston Mann, of Melbourne, and Charles Russell Mann, of West Australia - Privately cremated.
(P.17, The Age, 29-11-1952.)

MANN John Gilbert event: Death
mother:, Sophia Charlotte WALLASTON
father: MANN Gilbert Cheke
place of death:FRANKSTON
age:86 year:1952 register number:23159/1952

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I've often wondered this but refused to be sidetracked from the research in hand. The answer is no but they were brothers, Edwin at Sorrento and Richard Henry near Tullamarine, both sons of Nicholas Rodda and Jane, nee White. There may have been other brothers who were also Church of England ministers in Victoria, such as Rev. Benjamin Rodda (the co-celebrant at Edwin's wedding.)

RODDA.—On the 12th August, Nicholas, the father of the Revs. E. and R. H. Rodda, at Research, near Eltham, aged 91 years. Colonist of 45 years, 1849. At rest in Jesus.
(P.1, Argus, 13-8-1896.)

RODDA-WILLIS.-On the 11th inst, at St Mark's
Church Kensington, Bellarine, by the Rev. B. S.
Walker, assisted by the Rev. B. Rodda (brother-ln
law and brother of the bridegroom) the Rev. Edwin
Rodda, son of Nicholas Rodda, Esq., of Trevella,
Cornwall to Elinor, daughter of Richard Willis,Esq.
of Moolap.(P.1, Argus, 15-5-1875.)


Event: deaths
Registration number 7637 / 1917
Family name: RODDA
Given name(s) Edwin
Place of event: Cwell, Australia
Mother's name , Jane
Mother's family name at birth WHITE
Father's Name: , Rodda Nicholas

Event: deaths
Registration number 8115 / 1926
Family name: RODDA
Given name(s) Richard Henry
Place of event: ASCOT VALE, Australia
Mother's name , Jane
Mother's family name at birth WHITE
Father's Name: , RODDA Nicholas

Event: deaths
Registration number 9116 / 1895
Family name: RODDA
Given name(s) Benj
Place of event: Echuca, Australia
Mother's name , Jane
Mother's family name at birth WHITE
Father's Name: , Nichs


These were dedicated by his widow to the memory of the namesake son of the Rev. Richard Henry Rodda who died four years after his father.

Memorial Windows Dedicated.
FRANKSTON, Friday.— Archbishop Head, in the presence of a large congregation, last night dedicated three beautiful memorial windows, the gift of Mrs. Rodda, in the eastern wall of the chapel at St. Paul's Church of England,Frankston.
The cost of the construction of the chapel of the historic church, which was opened In February, 1887, was also thegift of Mrs. Rodda. The windows were dedicated In memory of Richard Henry Rodda, who died on August 27, 1930,
(P.21, The Age, 14-8-1937.)

Event: deaths
Registration number 9525 / 1930
Family name: RODDA
Given name(s) Richard Henry
Place of event: FLEMINGTON, Australia
Mother's name , Louisa
Mother's family name at birth FOLEY
Father's Name: , RODDA Richard Henry

Many friends in the legal profession and in the northern suburbs of Melbourne, especially at Flemington and
at Broadmeadows, will regret to learn of the death of Mr. Richard Henry Rodda, solicitor, which occurred at his
home, in Wellington street, Flemington, on August 27. Mr. Rodda, who was aged 68 years, had not been in good health for some time, and he had not practised his profession for the last few months. For many years he was the senior partner in the legal firm of Rodda and Ballard. Mr. Rodda, who was born at Eltham, spent his youth at Broadmeadows, where his father had charge of the Anglican parish for many years, He was educated at the Melbourne Grammar School, and later at the Melbourne University. During the war he was actively associated with many relief committees. Mr. Rodda is survived by a widow. (P.8, The Australasian, 30-8-1930.)

RODDA -on the 8th October, at St Aubin s, Frankston, Edith Alice widow of the late Richard Henry Rodda (Privately interred ) P.10, ARGUS, 11-10-1938.

Event: deaths
Registration number 18156 / 1938
Family name: RODDA
Given name(s) Edith Alice
Place of event: FRANKSTON, Australia
Mother's name , Charlotte
Mother's family name at birth LE BROEQ
Father's Name: , COLLAS Edward Nelson

RODDA—COLLAS.—On the 12th August, at St.James's Old Cathedral, Melbourne, by the Venerable Archdeacon Hindley, Richard Henry, eldest son of the Rev. R.H.Rodda, of Ascot Vale, to Edith Alice,fourth daughter of the late Edw. N.Collas, Buninyong. At home, "Vaynor", 121 Wellington-street, Flemington, 21st and 22nd September.
(P.7, The Age, 9-9--1911.)



Henry James Randall (born in 1857 at Richmond*) who established "Hindhope" on 29 acres might have been related to Nora, the wife of Ramsay Couper who consolidated the land between Hindhope and Eastbourne Rd, known as "The Thicket". It is CERTAIN that Henry James Randall was the brother of Mary Elizabeth Randall who married the wandering boy, Fred Rudduck** in 1898,with her name being given as Dollie in the marriage notice and Mary Elizth in the marriage record.

*Event: births
Registration number 14092 / 1857
Family name: RANDALL
Given name(s) Henry James
Place of event: RICHMOND, Australia
Mother's name , Margaret Scott
Mother's family name at birth WEBSTER
Father's Name: , Charles Edward

**See page 64 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA and

Registration number 20591 / 1873
Family name: RANDALL
Given name(s) Mary Elizabeth
Place of event: TARNAGULLA, Australia
Mother's name , Margaret
Mother's family name at birth WEBSTER
Father's Name: , Chas Edw

The mother's maiden surname is wrong in Henry James Randall's death record; it should be WEBSTER, as in the death record of Oswald* who took over Hindhope.
and the parents' wedding notice**.

Event: deaths
Registration number 1397 / 1906
Family name: RANDALL
Given name(s) Hy Jas
Place of event: Esdn, Australia
Mother's name , Margt Scott
Mother's family name at birth RANDALL
Father's Name: , Randall Chas Edwd

* Event: births
Registration number 3254 / 1877
Family name: RANDALL
Given name(s) Oswald Markham
Place of event: HOTHAM, Australia
Mother's name , Margaret Scott
Mother's family name at birth WEBSTER
Father's Name: , Charles Edward

** On the 1st inst, at North Melbourne, by the Rev.
John Reid, Charles Edward Randall to Margaret Scott
Webster. (P.4, Argus, 3-1-1857.)

Charles Edward and his son, Henry James became municipal administrators.* Henry James may have suggested in 1904 to George Fountain, the last Mayor of North Melbourne, that Rosebud was a great spot for a holiday.**

Hindhope and The Thicket are the north and south halves of the land fronting Boneo Rd and indicated by Melway 170 B 2 and parts 1 and 3.

The Wannaeue Estate is indicated by Melway 170 B-E, 4-7.

Death Of Former Footballer
DEATH in a private hospital early today of Mr William Raper, 85. of Elizabeth Street, Elsternwlck, robbed Australian football of a notable Identity.
Mr Raper began as a player with Hotham about 1870 and transferred to the Essendon team that played in McCracken's Paddock, Ascot Vale, in 1870.
Following his retirement as a player, Mr Raper continued to take a great interest In Essendon when that team occupied the old East Melbourne ground. Eventually he became a vice-president, a position which he occupied for a number of years, before being appointed president.
When Essendon transferred to their present ground in 1922 Mr Raper continued in office, and was head of the club when the team won the 1923 and 1924 premlerships. He retired from the administrative side of football about 1930.
Mr Raper was connected with the firm of James Service and Co. for 58 years, and was chief accountant and manager. He was also president for many years of the Percy Walker Old Boys' Association, members of which had attended the Percy Walker College at Carlton.
Mr Raper, who was a native of West Melbourne, had been ill for several years, and his death was hastened by head injuries received in a fall at home a few days ago. He leaves a widow, two daughters and three sons.
The funeral will leave his home at 2.30 p.m. tomorrow for Melbourne General Cemetery. Arrangements are in the charge of A. A. Sleight Pty. Ltd. (P.48, The Herald, 8-6-1939.)

Billy was revered by his schoolboy opponents.

Lands Department, enquiring if council had any objections to the alienation of road* between Messrs John Cain and W.Raper, Wannaeue.-To be informed that this council.objects to alienation of same. (P.3, Mornington Standard, 2-8-1913.)

* The southern boundary of farms that became Woyna, Eastbourne and Wannaeue Station that only exists as Hiscock Rd near Truemans Rd and a dotted line on the swamp side of Boneo Rd. Raper's Wannaeue Estate consisted of c/a's 11-8 and John Cain had purchased James Purves' grants, c/a's 6 and 5 between the unmade road and Little Scotland. See:
Wannaeue, County of Mornington [cartographic material].…/simpleimages/…/2611207.html

I've speculated in the post about THE WANDERING BOY that Henry James Randall may have provoked George Fountain's interest in Rosebud (the former being the last Mayor and the latter being the Town Clerk of North Melbourne.) The same could be true in regard to the Raper purchase of the Wannaeue Estate. Henry James Randall and William Raper were sons of two trustees of C of E property in Jika Jika east (across the Moonee Ponds Creek) near Flemington.

Names of Trustees -Tho Right Reverend James
Moorhouse, Doctor of Divlnity, Bishop of Melbourne ;
Charles Edward Randall, Town Clerk, Hotham, John*
Raper, Brougham street, Hotham, gentleman, James
Curias, Hotham, carrier (P.7, Argus, 20-11-1879.)

*Event: births Registration number 91 / 1853*
Family name: RAPER Given name(s) William
Place of event: MELB, Australia
Mother's name , Albertine
Mother's family name at birth RODAWAY
Father's Name: , John *
(*Also 18216 / 1853)

Event: deaths
Registration number 6696 / 1939
Family name: RAPER
Given name(s) William
Place of event: MELBOURNE, Australia
Mother's name , Unknown
Mother's family name at birth UNKNOWN
Father's Name: , RAPER John*

William's son John was much involved in the betterment and social life of Rosebud, as were the Riggs of Hindhope who had taken over Henry James Randall's farm but since I have already published this information elsewhere (RUDE ROSEBUD SURNAMES*), I'll just give you a clue as to why Dromana West was not renamed WANNAEUE as suggested in 1939.

(* Raper was often pronounced as Roper by such as Ray Cairns and Bill Dryden who would have called Eastbourne Rd ROPER'S LANE. Charlie Coleman changed the spelling.)
Mr. and Mrs. Webster, of "Dunhelen,” Bulla, and Mr J. Raper of “Wanawer,” Rosebud, were the guests of Mr. and Mrs. H. Park, for the Dookie College Jubilee.
(P.4, Shepparton Advertiser, 15-10-1936.)

FROM PAGE 2 OF BOGIES AND BIRDIES (Charles Robinson Coleman.)
The land selected was part of a property bounded by Eastbourne Road, Jetty Road, Government Road (later Hiscock Road and now part of the Country Club), and Boneo Road. It was formerly owned by a Mr Jack Rapir and purchased by FORESTRY PULP AND PAPER COMPANY PTY. LTD. in 1938 for development as a pine plantation.
Shortly after Christmas, 1958, a fire swept through 500 acres of the pine forest, severely damaging the trees. (etc.)


RAMSAY COUPER really was a knight and really was a pioneer of Rosebud but he didn't really have the title SIR RAMSAY OF ROSEBUD. I just made that up, with very good reason; Box Hill didn't deserve the glory of association with Sir Ramsay because his son,Guy,who was living at 64 Station St, Box Hill with Ramsay at the time of his enlistment for W.W.1, was not listed on the Shire of Nunawading roll of honour. Guy WAS listed on the Rosebud State School roll of honour and even though his name was listed simply as G.Couper, I was able to compile a reasonable biography for him. Rosebud honours its shared heroes!

William John Ferrier was one such shared hero. He was applauded throughout Australia for his bravery and determination displayed in rescues at the La Bella wreck at Warrnambool in November 1905 and despite my efforts to engage Queenscliff and Warrnambool in a joint commemoration of his heroic deeds 110 years later only Rosebud did so, chiefly through the support of Rosebud Primary School teacher, Mal Boag.

Ramsay Couper arrived at Rosebud some time between the assessments of 30-7-1892 and 21-7-1894. (The 1893-4 rate records are not included on the microfiche.) On the latter date he was on a 20 acre block with a building. Subsequent rate records show that Nora Couper had another 20 acre block and later Ramsay was assessed on two 20 acre lots with building while Nora was assessed on 16 acres, earlier occupied by John Freeman.

The early rate collector might have known something because his occupation was described as GENTLEMAN. This was a term used by retired businessmen such as Richard Watkin, owner of the Dromana Hotel meaning they no longer needed to work (earn a living.) No doubt the new-rich industrialists in England would have been tempted to try the title on, but would have well-known that doing so would ruin any chance of the missus rising through the ranks to achieve the elevated social status she craved. They'd never get an invite from the gentry.

To cut a long story short the land consolidated by Ramsay and Nora eventually became known as The Thicket and was the south half of the land bounded by First Avenue,and Eastbourne, Boneo and Pt. Nepean Rds, Rosebud. In about 1915, the farm was sold to Alf Rawlings and in 1927 subdivided as the Rosebud Park Estate whose innovative planning included curved streets such as Warranilla Avenue.If Box Hill residents did not notice the arrival of the family that's their fault, not mine. The Box Hill Historical Society has confirmed that Guy's name is not on the Shire of Nunawading Roll of Honour so Sir Ramsay of Box Hill or Sir Ramsay of Nunawading just wouldn't seem right.

Now I knew nothing of Ramsay being a knight but when I thought Guy's biography was complete, service and birth record,his sisters Evelyn and Phyllis, Evelyn marrying young Jamieson of Rosebud, Guy being the Worshipful Master of a lodge at Box Hill in the late 1940's, his death in 1973 and so on, I wondered if anything would turn up in a google search for GUY COUPER. That was when I discovered that Ramsay Couper was not only a knight but also a PLANTAGENET descendant.

See top of page 106.
“Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt (U.K.), formerly Lieut., King’s Royal Rifle Corps, Afghan Medal with two clasps and Bronze Star, b. I Nov, 1855: m. 1884, Nora Emma S., daughter of Horatio Willson Scott of Hampstead ; and has issue 1f to 3f.
1f Guy Couper, b. 12 Mar. 1889.
2f. Sybil Couper.
3f. Evelyn Cooper

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How did I know that the name of this guy was GUY? Wait and see! The grantee of crown allotment 14 Wannaeue, bounded by today’s Eastbourne, Boneo and Pt Nepean Rds and First Avenue was Hugh Glass. By the first Kangerong Road District assessment of 1864, Hugh also owned c/a 16 between today’s Fifth Avenue and the line of Norm Clark Walk. Hugh was one of the wealthiest men in Victoria and had spent a fortune building his mansion at Flemington and surrounding it with gardens worthy of a king. He was a partner in the private railway to Essendon which failed at about this time and to add to his woes, scab in his HUGE flocks of sheep saw him heading for bankruptcy. After his overdose of medication, c/a 16 and 29 acres of c/a 14 fell into the ownership of creditors until about 1909.

Event: births Registration number 27100 / 1889
Family name: COUPER Given name(s) Guy
Place of event: WARBURTON, Australia
Parent 1's family name at birth SCOTT Parent 2's given name: Ramsay G H

Crown allotment 14 was divided into two lots of 29 acres which became Hindhope, extending south to include 50 First Avenue (Hindhope Villa) and lots of 20. 20 and 16 acres in the southern half fronting today’s Eastbourne Rd.

In 1900, Ramsey Couper was assessed on 20 acres and building, part c/a 14 Wannaeue and 20 acres, part c/a 14 Wannaeue, the latter being leased or recently bought from somebody whose name started with H. John Freeman had the 16 acre block, having recently bought it from somebody whose surname started with M. In 1910-11, Ramsey was assessed on 40 acres and Nora (his wife) on the 16 acre block. In about 1915, their southern half of c/a 14 was sold to Alf Rawlings and the Coupers moved to Box Hill which was a long way from Rosebud so William Jamieson’s son popped the question to his sweetheart, Evelyn Couper*. And that’s how I discovered the given name of G.Couper. The Couper farm acquired the name, “The Thicket” and in 1927 was subdivided as the Rosebud Park Estate, whose curved streets (such as Warranilla Avenue) were innovative at that time.

*- JAMIESON. — On November 16, at her father's residence, 350 Station-street. Box Hill, Evelyn, widow of George Edward Jamieson, dearly loved mother of William and Madge, loving sister-in-law of Margaret and Robert. Private Interment.
JAMIESON. — On November 16, At Box Hill, Evelyn, the dearly beloved second daughter of Ramsay and the late Nora Couper; loving sister of Sybil and Guy. (P.1, The Age, 17-11-1939.)

Peninsula pioneers such as the Jamiesons, Pidotos and Stennikens who plied the bay were often associated with Williamstown or Sandridge so it was no surprise that Evelyn and her beau had lived at Williamstown. Guy, who’d become a motor mechanic, was appointed as Evelyn’s executor. (P.12, The Age, 22-1-1940.)

Regimental number 11692
Place of birth Warburton Victoria
Religion Church of England
Occupation Motor mechanic
Address 64 Station Street, Box Hill, Victoria
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 27
Next of kin Father, R G H Couper, 64 Station Street, Box Hill, Victoria
Enlistment date 24 February 1916
Rank on enlistment Motor Transport Driver
Unit name Supply Column 3, Army Service Corps 26
AWM Embarkation Roll number 25/29/1
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A19 Afric on 5 June 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll Driver
Unit from Nominal Roll 3rd AAMTC
Fate Returned to Australia 9 July 1919

Guy dissolved his business partnership soon after enlisting. The witness was most likely his father, Ramsey Couper.

Notice is hereby given that the PARTNERSHIP heretofore subsisting between Gustaf Leonard Erickson and Guy Couper, carrying on business as speedometer, taximeter, motor accessories, watches and clock repairers, at 452 Bourke street, Melbourne under the style of firm of G.L.Erickson and Co . has been DISSOLVED as from the twenty first day of March, 1916. The said Gustaf Leonard Erickson will receive and pay all debts due to or owing by the said firm. The said Gustaf Leonard Erickson will carry on business at 452 Bourke street, Melbourne, in the name of G.L.Erickson and Co.
Dated this twenty first day of March 1916.
Witness to Signatures.-R Couper. (P.5, Argus, 22-3-1916.)

Guy died in 1973.
Event: deaths Registration number 29280 / 1973
Family name: COUPER Given name(s) Guy
Place of event: Donvale, Australia
Parent 1's family name at birth SCOTT Parent 2's given name: COUPER Ramsay George Henry

See top of page 106.
“Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt (U.K.), formerly Lieut., King’s Royal Rifle Corps, Afghan Medal with two clasps and Bronze Star, b. I Nov, 1855: m. 1884, Nora Emma S., daughter of Horatio Willson Scott of Hampstead ; and has issue 1f to 3f.
1f Guy Couper, b. 12 Mar. 1889.
2f. Sybil Couper.
3f. Evelyn Cooper (sic.)

POSTSCRIPT, 16-3-2019.
Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt.1
M, #278171, b. 1 November 1855, d. 20 March 1949

Last Edited=18 Feb 2011
Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt. was born on 1 November 1855.1 He was the son of George Ebenezer Wilson Couper, 2nd Bt. and Caroline PenelopeEvery.2 He married Nora Emma Scott, daughter of Horatio Willson Scott, on 22 January 1884.1 He died on 20 March 1949 at age 93.1
He fought in the Afghan War between 1878 and 1880.1 He gained the rank of Lieutenant in the 60th Foot ).1 He succeeded as the 3rd Baronet Couper [U.K., 1841] on 5 March 1908.1
Children of Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt. and Nora Emma Scott
1. Sybil Couper2
2. Evelyn Couper2 d. 16 Nov 1939
3. Sir Guy Couper, 4th Bt.2 b. 12 Mar 1889, d. 1975

Nora Emma Scott1
F, #278173, d. 1 January 1925

Last Edited=5 Apr 2008
Nora Emma Scott was the daughter of Horatio Willson Scott.2 She married Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt., son of George Ebenezer WilsonCouper, 2nd Bt. and Caroline Penelope Every, on 22 January 1884.1 She died on 1 January 1925.1
From 22 January 1884, her married name became Couper.
Children of Nora Emma Scott and Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt.
1. Sybil Couper2
2. Evelyn Couper2 d. 16 Nov 1939
3. Sir Guy Couper, 4th Bt.2 b. 12 Mar 1889, d. 1975

Sir Guy Couper, 4th Bt.1
M, #278174, b. 12 March 1889, d. 1975*
Last Edited=18 Feb 2011
Sir Guy Couper, 4th Bt. was born on 12 March 1889.1 He was the son of Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt. and Nora Emma Scott.2 He died in 1975.1
He fought in the First World War between 1916 and 1918, with the Australian Imperial Forces.1 He succeeded as the 4th Baronet Couper [U.K., 1841] on 20 March 1949.1
Victorian BDM states 1973 which could be a typo.
Event: deaths Registration number 29280 / 1973
Family name: COUPER Given name(s) Guy
Place of event: Donvale, Australia
Parent 1's family name at birth SCOTT Parent 2's given name: COUPER Ramsay George Henry

Evelyn Couper1
F, #278176, d. 16 November 1939
George Edward Jamieson1
M, #278177, d. 4 July 1923
Last Edited=5 Apr 2008
George Edward Jamieson married Evelyn Couper, daughter of Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt. and Nora Emma Scott, in 1915.1 He died on 4 July 1923.1
Last Edited=18 Feb 2011
Evelyn Couper was the daughter of Sir Ramsay George Henry Couper, 3rd Bt. and Nora Emma Scott.2 She married George Edward Jamieson in 1915.1 She died on 16 November 1939, leaving issue.1
From 1915, her married name became Jamieson.1
Like Sybil, Guy obviously did not marry and as he did not have an heir, his cousin (Ramsay’s nephew) became the 5th Baronet Couper by virtue of his descent from Ramsay’s father, the 3rd Baronet.
Sir George Robert Cecil Couper Bt
Born 15 Oct 1898 [location unknown]
Son of James Robert Couper and Jessie (Kissock) Couper
James Robert Couper
Born 24 Jun 1863 [location unknown] Died 7 Jun 1917 [location unknown]
Son of George Ebenezer Wilson Couper KCSI CB and Caroline Penelope (Every) Couper
Brother of Ramsay George Henry Couper Bt, (etc)

I had assumed that Ramsay had sold his farm to Alf Rawlings and moved to Box Hill at about the time of Evelyn’s marriage but I needed to check. The last mention of Ramsay in the Shire of Flinders and Kangerong rate records was in the 1911-12 assessment. Ramsay (assessment number 902) was assessed on 40 acres and Nora (Ass. No. 903) on 16 acres but their names were crossed out and no rates had been paid. Alfred Rawlings was not assessed in that year or the next but in 1912 at assessment number 1138, John Johnson had been written and crossed out with Edward Dutton written as the person to be rated on ”The Thicket”, Rosebud , 57 acres, part c/a 14 Wannaeue. The assessment in the previous year was supposed to have been at 1168 but it wasn’t.
Ramsay was not aloof from his community at Rosebud or Box Hill, despite being a Baronet. This helped in getting a closer estimate of when the move took place. In March 1911, the retiring treasurer of the Mechanics’ Institute declined a nomination to the committee for the next year. “On being proposed for re-election, Mr Couper stated his inability to attend, and for that reason he wished not to stand.”
Ramsay had been on the vestry of St Peter’s Church of England at Box Hill in 1914 and had attended all 12 meetings.
It is not known whether Sir Ramsay or Edward Dutton coined the name of The Thicket. An indication of the type of farming in which Ramsay was engaged during his 16 or so years spent at Rosebud is given by the competition he won at the Dromana Show in April 1911. Twelve Cobs Maize, R Couper.

Buried in bh25/4852 are Guy 1973 age 84; Nora 1925 spouse of Ramsay C?H.; Ramsay C?.H. 1949, spouse Nora and SYBIL, DIED 1976 AGED 90.
Doris Couper, listed before them and buried in another plot, was born in 1911 and died in 2000. She was not a child of Ramsay and Nora.
Event: births Registration number 30136 / 1911
Family name:COUPER Given name(s) Doris
Place of event: MEENIYAN, VIC, Australia
Parent 1's family name at birth IRELAND Parent 2's given name: Wm Lockhart Carlyle

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W.W.1 ROLL OF HONOUR FOR QUEENSCLIFF DISTRICT, VIC., AUST. (Includes Drysdale, Marcus, Leopold, Moolap, Ocean Grove, Portarlington, and Wallington,)

Queenscliff Sentinel, Drysdale, Portarlington, Sorrento Advertiser (Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Sat 18 Mar 1916 Page 3 ROLL OF HONOR

Last night I was trying to read the names on a photo of the Shire of Nunawading Roll of Honour and it was a hopeless task. I had the same trouble last year trying to transcribe the names on the photo of the W.W.1 memorial seat at Flinders, Victoria so I decided to publish them in a journal, involving only a very pleasant drive from Rosebud. I'm sure that somebody is looking for these lists.

Unfortunately, I can't copy and paste the digitisation which just reads across columns, mixing up names from the various areas, so perhaps somebody is clever enough to take a screen shot of the actual page and attach it to a journal. There are too many names to fit into a surnames list.

I think Ocean Grove would have been struggling to field a footy team in those days!

If you google Marcus, Victoria, you'll get a map showing the locations of Marcus Hill and Wallington. The name Moolap comes from the aboriginal description of Point Henry. The area includes Point Henry and, extending south, straddles the Bellarine Highway. MAP OF MOOLAP
Leopold is east of Moolap and was originally known as Kensington before it was royally renamed.




This was a working farm in early days.
"129 acres superior agricultural land, having a large frontage to Hobson's Bay, and described in the Government plan as having water at a short distance from the surface , together with a neat cottage containing four rooms and a garden, fruit trees, fenced in. (P.2, Argus, 4-3-1857.)

By the second Kangerong Road Board assessment of 5-9-1865, "Woolcott" was assessed on 129 acres, Wannaeue. In 1879, Woolcote was assessed on squiggle acres! Despite such helpful detailed rate records, subsequent research indicates that the following was the man from whom George and Susan Peatey bought the 2 acre lot 76 of Woolcott's subdivision on the south corner of Jetty Rd and McDowell St in 1878, occupying it in 1888 when they had repaid Nelson Rudduck's loan. (PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS, Rosalind Peatey.)

EventDeath Event registration number2040 Registration year1904
Personal information
Family nameWOOLCOTT Given namesRichd Robt SexUnknown Father's nameWoolcott Wm Mother's nameElizth Ann Way (Spark) Place of birth Place of deathMvern Age68

At the height of the land boom when Jack Jones' store across Jetty Rd was probably still the only store on the inland side of the beach road west of Peatey's Creek, Woolcott made a determined effort to dispose of the many unsold blocks on his estate. Louis Anderson may have bought lot 41 at that time on which he ran Rosebud's first proper post office 1891-7.

That picturesque neighbourhood a little to the south of Dromana on the main road to Sorrento. The remaining unsold lots in the estate of R.R. Woolcott Esq, being part of portion 17 parish of Wannaeue each lot having an
area of 1 1/4 acre and upwards. A new Jetty, state school, and other Improvements have recently been added to the attractions of this place, which must ultimately become one of the most popular of our suburban watering
places." (P.2, Argus, 27-1-1888.)

He may have had more success if he'd promoted a Gumbuyah Park type of water-play park where children could row boats on the Rosebud Lagoon* without them getting out of their depth or being swept out through the heads!
(* Photo of the lagoon, which was drained in about 1950, is attached to the brief history journal.)

In 1910, "Vale", agent, Melbourne was assessed on 84+ 84 acres 17 Wannaeue. Something wrong there as c/a 17 only consisted of 129 acres. The other 84 acres may have been in the Clacton on Sea estate. In 34 years or so, Woolcott had only sold about 45 acres! W.F.Vale had divided the 84 acres remaining into 300 lots.

Extracts from the huge advertisement on P.21, Argus, 9-1-1909.
No reservation as to taking adjoining blocks. Adjoining part of Clacton-on-Sea, but being portion of the block closer to Dromana. 50ft. frontages.----- NOTE the nearness of our Lots to Post Office,Jetty, Beach, Mechanics' Institute, and the homes of the residents of the Township. Take a walk along Foreshore, and notice the particularly safe sandy Beach, beautiful clear water, perfect bathing, and play-ground for children.---- CALL AT ONCE FOR PLAN AT W. F. VALE & CO.,"


He didn't get a mention in THE STOPOVER THAT STAYED but Lenore Frost wrote about him in her STREET NAMES OF ESSENDON. He was a police magistrate and covered a huge area. Shuter St, between Puckle St and Gladstone St in Moonee Ponds was named after him but so was a street in Greendale, a small town between the western Highway and Blackwood. He was a grantee in the parish of Blackwood which extended almost to Ballan. I was surprised to read this in Margot Hitchcock's history column in the BLACKWOOD TIMES*.

" Still another victim, who,though not born on Blackwood, could almost be claimed as a native, as I believe he was born at his father’s residence near Greendale. I refer to Dr. Shuter, son of the well-known & respected Police Magistrate, Mr. C.Shuter, who died at his father’s residence Malvern, on Easter Monday. I have heard that the young Dr. was a man of great promise, & his death is deeply lamented by a wide circle of friends. The young man, I think, had only attained the age of about 30 years when he died. "
(Bacchus Marsh Express - Sat April 12, 1890)

EventDeath Event registration number8093 Registration year1890
Personal information
Family nameSHUTER Given namesChas Yalden SexMale Father's nameChas Mother's nameAmelia Elizth (Lord) Place of birth Place of deathMvern Age30

The birth was apparently registered at Collingwood but this may have been because there was no registrar yet at Ballan, or maybe because Amelia's mother lived there.
EventBirth Event registration number5715 Registration year1860
Personal information
Family nameSHUTER Given namesCharles Yalden SexUnknown Father's nameCharles Mother's nameAmelia Eliza (Lord) Place of birthCOLL

The birth DID take place at Collingwood.
On the 6th inst., at Victoria-parade, the wife of Charles Shuter, Esq., police magistrate, Ballan, of a
son.(P.4, Argus, 8-3-1860.)

It seems unlikely that Amelia's parents were living at Collingwood.
On the 10th inst., at Trinity Church, Bacchus Marsh, by the Rev. J. T. Schleicher, Charles Shuter, Esq., Police Magistrate, to Amelia Elizabeth, second daughter of John Lord, Esq., late of Sydney. (P.4, Argus, 14-8-1858.)

BUT John Lord was a labourer of Collingwood when he applied for discharge of his insolvency in 1849.
(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 15 May 1849 p 3 Article)

Charles Shuter's house at Moonee Ponds was called Newstead. The Puckles bought a fair piece of Peter McCracken's "Ardmillan Estate" west of the railway and if I remember correctly the bridegroom's Sydenham Villa was demolished for the construction of the Ardmillan House Reception Centre near the top of Ardmillan Rd. Charles certainly mixed with many prominent families judging by the guests at the wedding.


---. from my unpublished book ‘The History and Pioneers of Blackwood.” I have evidence Charles Shuter was in Blackwood in the 1850’s….– one as early as 1855. 32 references in all..!!! two as copied here.

“Assistant Commissioner Standish reports - Mr. Robert McKenzie was appointment the first Warden of the Mt. Blackwood Goldfield in 1855 and he together with a Magistrate and a Police Officer who had already been on the field for several months represent the law of the time. Robert McKenzie the first Warden was transferred to a larger field in 1856. In June 1855 the Warden was sharing the Police Officer's tent along with the Stipendiary Magistrate. The tent was also used as a Police Court, Wardens' Office and Mess Room. Tenders were put in and soon substantial buildings were erected up to replace the tent. Warden McKenzie was later replaced by Warden Charles Shuter. ”

Also - Saturday 25 June 1859. MOUNT BLACKWOOD - From our Correspondent.
“FATAL MINING ACCIDENT- One of those catastrophes that too often arise from the careless or venturesome manner in which miners conduct their operations, occurred at Kangaroo Flat on Tuesday last, 18th instant, whereby James Brown (generally known as Kentucky) lost his life. Brown was endeavouring to remove a single pillar that supported a large mass of earth; this he was doing cautiously, but without propping or slabbing; when suddenly the superincumbent mass fell
crushing and burying him beneath. He was immediately dug-out and conveyed to his tent, was perfectly sensible, and it was thought he would recover, but early the following morning he died.
An inquiry was held on Friday before Charles Shuter, Esq, J.P and an examination made by Dr. Kieser of Ballan, from whose evidence it was ascertained that death was cause by rupture of the bladder, occasioned by the earth falling on him.”


I am often asked to recommend a history which will contain information about a certain pioneer and in many cases, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF TEACHERS, there isn't one. T.P.Durack is not mentioned in A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA so he therefore is included under my 1988 bicentennial pledge to acknowledge pioneers who have escaped the attention of municipal or local historians.

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I couldn't find the birth record of the child born during their time in Dromana because I'd searched from 1907 to 1910, not expecting the birth to have taken place so soon before their departure. Luckily the birth was mentioned by the child herself soon after her 10th birthday in 1921.


EventBirth Event registration number2787 Registration year1911
Personal information
Family nameDURACK Given namesDoreen Julia SexFemale Father's nameThos Patk Mother's nameAnnie Agnes (Bourke) Place of birthDROMANA

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(Type WANNAEUE, COUNTY OF MORNINGTON into your search bar to see the parish map.
To see the map of the Rosebud/ Boneo area in 1855, copy Part of the Parish of Wannaeue near the Village Reserve of Dromana ... into your search bar.)

Apart from a brief bit about Rosebud's name, I've put the cart before the horse and dealt first with the area inland of the beach road now known as Rosebud (and a tad beyond) to get across the message that this area was either working farms (with a bit of lime quarrying from Boneo Rd to the west) or vacant land lost through mortgages that became wasteland suitable only for grazing whose occupancy can not be determined because properties were not described properly. By the time TERRY E.W. was elected to council in 1910, the Shire of Flinders and Kangerong was almost bankrupt and he tried to have properties described accurately so that changes of ownership (usually to financial institutions because of unpaid mortgages)could be tracked and rate notices sent out. His colleagues would not support him so he resigned in protest. It was not until about 1914 that rate collectors started trying to describe all properties. Much of the wasteland in Wannaeue and Fingal, south of Limestone Road, was bought for a song from the financial institutions by James Little Brown who soaked up some wonderful stories told by Robert Rowley, such as NO GOOD DAMPER

Some working farms' homesteads in today's Rosebud, that could indicate that the original Rosebud was the fishing village, have been demolished. REMAINING are John Cain's "Midway" just south of Bunnings. Wahgunyah, atop Menstry's Hill in Mitchell St, Eastbourne in William Crescent in Rosebud West, Woyna House in Terry St, and Eleanora* in the Rosebud Hospital grounds. (Apart from the Wong-Shing Market between Johnson St and Eastbourne Rd, the only agriculture recorded on David Cairn's property is Bob Parr's statement that the 3-4 acre Eleanora grounds had a big orchard at the back. P.168, STORIES OF ROSEBUD WEST.)

DEMOLISHED with the blessing of council are:
Hindhope Villa, 50 First Avenue. History is our story and boy there are some great stories about this house but they'd lose their flavour if told in front of the massive apartments for which this 110+ year old house was demolished in 2017.
Jack Raper's Wannaeue Estate homestead on the east side of the Driveway into Olympic Park from Eastbourne Rd which Bart Rogers occupied when he managed the pine plantation where we now see the freeway extension and the northern part of the Rosebud Country Club. This was about the same age as Hindhope Village and was demolished in about 2010.

I've decided to leave the fishing village to last because I need to refute the Wikipedia entry about THE ROSEBUD which claims that the Rosebud's life did not end near Rosebud (Mt Martha and Mt Eliza being mentioned as its location!) and supply details about some of the fishermen and use of Rosebud regarding location BEFORE the Rosebud Fishing Village was alienated. (1870 re wannaeue village, 1867 hurricane-jack and elizabeth jones, bucher,1869 boxing match tragedy, registration of bucher births, fred vine by 1866, william johnston, Miss Hazledine's 1897 letter about the picnic at Cape Schanck etc.)

It has been said that Rosebud was originally known as Banksia Point but when the schooner, Rosebud, was stranded in 1855, the location of the wreck was given as “between the White Cliff and Arthur's Seat, near the Heads, in May last.”(P.6, Argus, 29-11-1855.)
The coast between these two POINTS is a gradual curve, there is no mention of Banksia Point as an official name and any early fishermen would have referred to the coastal banksias as Honeysuckles.
The Rosebud had been owned by Edward Hobson but had been purchased by James Purves in about March 1855 and insured with 12 brokers for a total of 700 pounds.

Rosebud is within the parish of Wannaeue which included parts of three squatting runs: Arthurs Seat, Tootgarook and Boniyong.
Edward William Hobson originally occupied land on the north side of Arthurs Seat in 1837, calling it Canjeerung but in 1838 sent the Desailley boys to build some huts on the other side of the mountain. In 1841, Jamieson’s Special Survey, four square miles of the parish of Kangerong, had been sold by the Crown and by 1843 the Arthurs Seat Run was made available and taken up by Andrew McCrae.

Hobson is believed to have moved to the Tootgarook run before the Survey was purchased but only remained until 1843 when he and Maurice Meyrick of Boniyong moved to Gippsland, being replaced as lessees by George Smith (partner of Hobson’s mother) and John Barker, respectively. Smith left for California in about 1849, taking a young Boon-wurrung lad, Johnnie, with him. Before leaving, Smith transferred the coastal part of Tootgarook near McCrae to the Arthurs Seat run and the rest to Hobson who then transferred the lease to James Purves whose brother Peter ran Tootgarook Station until his death in 1860. Smith obviously returned because Johnnie died in 1851 and was buried by George McCrae near the lighthouse site not long before the Arthurs Seat Run was transferred to the Burrells.

The parish of Wannaeue extended east to Mornington-Flinders Rd near the Red Hill Consolidated School, south to Limestone Rd and west to Weeroona St Rye but the following information pertains only to the part of the parish between Anthony’s Nose and Truemans Rd, south to Browns Rd.

The Arthurs Seat Run was poor grazing country and the Burrells were looking to sell it before long. They probably made as much money from timber as they did from cattle. The pre-emptive right was bought in two parts. The part of crown allotment 1, section B, Wannaeue between the Cape Schanck Road and the foreshore was retained by the Burrells and the related Coburn family of “Springbank” with the Bartels and Cornell families also being early residents of what became known as Dromana West until CONFUSION OF NAMES caused the area to be named McCrae.

Crown allotment 2 section B south of the junction of The Avenue and Cape Schanck Rd, was leased or sold to such as George Burston of Fitzroy who was the occupant of 368 acres of the P.R. by 1919.

The Burrell wing of the McCrae Homestead has much information about the Burrells and their relatives, including John Twycross, grantee of c/a 12, Rosebud Fishing Village, whose beautiful watercolour paintings and pioneering photography can be inspected. It is because of an environmentally conscious member of the Burrell family that the McCrae section of the foreshore remains so beautiful today.

Apart from its poor grazing capacity, Georgiana’s McCrae’s fear that her homestead block would be swallowed by the proposed Dromana Township with a two mile frontage to the Bay was responsible for Andrew’s decision to sell the lease to the Burrells. The 185 chain (3.7 km) frontage between McCulloch St, Dromana and The Avenue, McCrae, did not interfere with the homestead block and included the P.R. between Dromana Township and the Wannaeue Village Reserve.

As the Government wanted to ensure demand for township blocks exceeded supply, in order to get the best price possible for them, they decided to reserve the Wannaeue Village site where the water was too shallow for a pier, until the demand became apparent, and so that it earned money for the Government coffers until such time, they apparently leased the village site to Captain Henry Everest Adams.

In much the same way that the story about Rosebud being originally called Banksia Point originated, Captain Adams’ lease became a 750 acre grant in the family folklore (as well as his being the illegitimate son of Lord Vivian and marrying Miss May in England!)

Wannaeue Village, between The Avenue and the line of Parkmore Rd, was not alienated until the 1870’s, with the Adams family snapping up all the land on the west side of Wattle Rd (now Wattle Place),being the grounds of Hopetoun House, and all the land between South Rd and the Cape Schanck Road.

This 191 acre allotment was withdrawn after it had been included in an advertisement of crown land available for selection.(P. 6,The Age, 22-9-1855.) Nothing has been discovered about the grantee, Isaac White, except for an indenture between Captain Adams and Isaac concerning a property in the parish of South Melbourne in which Isaac expressed his affection for the Captain's wife. I believe that because he was already leasing the Wannaeue Village reserve, he would not have been allowed to select c/a 19 and Isaac did so acting as a dummy for him. By the first assessment in 1864, Henry Everest Adams was rated on the property, extending his occupancy east to the line of Adams Avenue. it was used for the Vivyan Vinyard and orchards. The Captain was retiring in 1877 after 20 years residency in the area and was selling properties near the Arthurs Seat summit as well as c/a 19 Wannaeue. The comfortable house was near Wattle Rd on c/a 20; the frontage of c/a 19 was only 32 chains or 640 metres so the stated frontage of nearly half a mile included the frontage east of Parkmore Rd to Wattle Rd.

"That valuable farm, containing 191 acres, subdivided into seven paddocks, partly laid down in English grasses, substantially fenced with post, rail, and wire, and having a bay frontage of nearly half a mile ; orchard*, garden, and vine-yard containing 2000 vines all in full bearing, with a comfortable weatherboard house containing 10 rooms, outhouses, &c..; brick tank holding 4000 gallons. Crops to be removed or taken
at a valuation." (P.3, Argus, 10-3-1877.)
* 600 fruit trees as specified by Henry's widow, Eliza, in 1881.(P.4, The Age, 15-12-1881.)

Such farming requires good drainage and the 191 acre property was flooded during the HOBSON FLAT DRAINAGE dispute of 1904, causing much animosity between Back Road Bob Cairns and Robert Henry Adams.
(P.5, Mornington Standard, 6-8-1904.)

Granted to G.H.Warren, this land of 152.6 acres was between the line of Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd, backing onto the government (Eastbourne) road east to its junction with the Cape Schanck road. Warren still owned the land in 1865 and had apparently leased the 152 acres to a Mr Parr in 1864. It was later sold to Charles Blakey, poundkeeper of Somerton, some time before 1871 when Blakey had sold lot 86, 2 acres on its north west corner to Jack Jones who was obviously a local fisherman and bought crown allotment 6 of the Rosebud Fishing Village on 16-8-1872.

Blakey had died by 1874 when his executors advertised the sale of land at Broadford and Wannaeue, noting that lot 86 (as revealed in a memorial in Harvey Marshall's scrapbook recording a loan that Captain Henry Everest Adams had given to William Edwards) had been sold. Blakey had made no improvements to the land and obviously the grantee hadn't either.

"Lot 2.-Portion l8, parish of Wannaeue, county of Mornington, containing 152a. 2r. 16p. No improvements.
Both these properties are moderately timbered. The Broadford land is on Sunday-creek, near the township and railway station. The Wannaeue land fronts the bay, and is sold subject to a piece 60 x 330, fronting the beach-road, being taken out of it, having been previously sold." (P.3, Argus, 18-2-1874.)

In 1875, Robert White (1804-1881), grantee of c/a 11 Rosebud Fishing Village in 1873, was assessed on the land. The only child of Henry White and Margaret, nee Cairns, he was the father of Henry Bucher's wife Ann. It has been noted that Ann was from Clackmannan, Scotland as were the Cairns brothers of Boneo. Robert came out on the John Linn in 1859, nearly a decade after the death of his wife, with his three surviving children, Janet b.1839, Ann B. 1842 and Robert b.1849. They may have gone straight to Little Scotland at Boneo where he was recorded as renting a hut from the Cairns brothers in the first assessment, of 1864. On 26-7-1877, Robert Junior married Margaret Hillis and in the same year he took over the ownership of the 150 acre farm. On 25-4-1881, his father died, his place of death in Rosebud given as Menstry Hill after the small Scottish village (near Clackmannan) where he was born. (All details from PIONEERS OF THE PENINSULA by Stephen Lynch.)

On 4-7-1888 Robert Jnr's wife Margaret, suffering from melancholia, was committed to the Kew Asylum where she died before the end of the year and Robert sold the property in September, moving to the 27 acre "Glenferrie" on the north corner of White Hill and McIlroys Rds at Red Hill where Robert acquired the nickname of Blooming Bob White to distinguish him from his sister Janet's son Robert. Here his children could be cared for by Hadassah Hillis who married Blooming Bob in 1899. Robert had forgotten to mention lot 86 when he sold the 150 acre farm to the Lake Brothers in September and in 1889, the buyers tried unsuccessfully to evict Jack Jones (who had built a store on the FJ's site in about 1884-5.)
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 18 September 1889 p 11 Article

The sale fell through and the 150 acre farm was owned by woolclasser Thomas Bamford and then the Pottons. The rest of the story of this farm can be read in the HENRY POTTON'S FARM chapter of Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD. De Garis, who bought the farm to subdivide it as the Heart of Rosebud Estate, lived at 19 Mitchell St (located on a sudden rise which probably made Robert White senior think of Menstry Hill for a name) which he called Wahgunyah. De Garis committed suicide twice!

This was a working farm in early days.
"129 acres superior agricultural land, having a large frontage to Hobson's Bay, and described in the Government plan as having water at a short distance from the surface , together with a neat cottage containing four rooms and a garden, fruit trees, fenced in. (P.2, Argus, 4-3-1857.)

By the second Kangerong Road Board assessment of 5-9-1865, "Woolcott" was assessed on 129 acres, Wannaeue. In 1879, Woolcote was assessed on squiggle acres! Despite such helpful detailed rate records, subsequent research indicates that the following was the man from whom George and Susan Peatey bought the 2 acre lot 76 of Woolcott's subdivision on the south corner of Jetty Rd and McDowell St in 1878, occupying it in 1888 when they had repaid Nelson Rudduck's loan. (PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS, Rosalind Peatey.)

EventDeath Event registration number2040 Registration year1904
Personal information
Family nameWOOLCOTT Given namesRichd Robt SexUnknown Father's nameWoolcott Wm Mother's nameElizth Ann Way (Spark) Place of birth Place of deathMvern Age68

At the height of the land boom when Jack Jones' store across Jetty Rd was probably still the only store on the inland side of the beach road west of Peatey's Creek, Woolcott made a determined effort to dispose of the many unsold blocks on his estate. Louis Anderson may have bought lot 41 at that time on which he ran Rosebud's first proper post office 1891-7.

That picturesque neighbourhood a little to the south of Dromana on the main road to Sorrento. The remaining unsold lots in the estate of R.R. Woolcott Esq, being part of portion 17 parish of Wannaeue each lot having an
area of 1 1/4 acre and upwards. A new Jetty, state school, and other Improvements have recently been added to the attractions of this place, which must ultimately become one of the most popular of our suburban watering
places." (P.2, Argus, 27-1-1888.)

He may have had more success if he'd promoted a Gumbuyah Park type of water-play park where children could row boats on the Rosebud Lagoon without them getting out of their depth or being swept out through the heads!

In 1910, "Vale", agent, Melbourne was assessed on 84+ 84 acres 17 Wannaeue. Something wrong there as c/a 17 only consisted of 129 acres. The other 84 acres may have been in the Clacton on Sea estate. In 34 years or so, Woolcott had only sold about 45 acres! W.F.Vale had divided the 84 acres remaining into 300 lots.

Extracts from the huge advertisement on P.21, Argus, 9-1-1909.
No reservation as to taking adjoining blocks. Adjoining part of Clacton-on-Sea, but being portion of the block closer to Dromana. 50ft. frontages.----- NOTE the nearness of our Lots to Post Office,Jetty, Beach, Mechanics' Institute, and the homes of the residents of the Township. Take a walk along Foreshore, and notice the particularly safe sandy Beach, beautiful clear water, perfect bathing, and play-ground for children.---- CALL AT ONCE FOR PLAN AT W. F. VALE & CO.,"

By 1864, Hugh Glass owned 231 acres without encumbrance according to the Kangerong Road District’s first assessment. This land could only have consisted of his grant, c/a 14, and c/a 16 of 115 acres granted to H. Stratford and J. Ridgway in mid 1856. The beach road frontage of c/a 16 was 2040 links which confirms my conclusion made in 2010 based only on its acreage. Most likely the grantees were speculators and had become insolvent. It was probably at this auction in 1859 that Hugh Glass had bought c/a 16 from the mortgagees.
“All that piece or parcel of land, in the colony of Victoria, containing by admeasurement 115 Acres, be the same more or less, situated in the County of Mornington, Parish of Wannaeue, Portion 16,” The northern boundary was 20 chains 40 links (405 metres), 2040 links as stated on the parish map and the southern boundary (on today’s Eastbourne Rd) was 18 chains 90 links or 1890 links as on the parish map. (P.2, Argus, 24-10-1859, column 5, item 6.)
By 1871, Glass had become insolvent because of scab in his numerous flocks and the huge expense of building the palatial Flemington House west of Kent St Ascot Vale. His grant, c/a 14, was split up into lots of 29, 29, 20, 20 and 16 acres and because properties were never described properly in rate records until about 1914, c/a’s 16 and 15 as well as one 29 acre lot that became part of Hindhope would have been owned by financial institutions who occasionally managed to find a tenant, such as Ned Williams who in one year was assessed on 1500 acres, Wannaeue.
No doubt the promoters of the Clacton-on-Sea Estate in 1909 had picked up c/a’s 15 and 16 dirt cheap and despite their prizes for jingles on the radio and lucky steamer tickets the subdivision was not a raging success; in fact there was much criticism. Many buyers forfeited their blocks due to unpaid rates and the southern part of the estate was virtually a ti tree tangle until the Shire acted in the 1980’s as described in PETER Wilson’s ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD.

Consisting of 116 acres 3 roods 38 perches (116.9875 acres)and bounded by the Beach road, First Avenue, Eastbourne Rd and Boneo Rd, this was granted to Hugh Glass who became insolvent as discussed under c/a 16. Crown allotment 14 was divided into northern portions of 29 acres,one of which became Randall's HINDHOPE, the other having been forfeited to an investment company, being added to Hindhope by Eleanor Rigg on 4-9-1909; the southern half was divided into portion of 20, 20 and 16 acres which were eventually consolidated by Ramsey and Nora Couper, to form a farm called The Thicket. Their daughter married a son of William Jamieson, grantee of crown allotment 14 Rosebud fishing village not long before the Coupers moved to Box Hill and were replaced by Alf Rawlings. Alf, who died in 1922 aged 81, was the last owner of The Thicket which Keith McGregor leased for a year or two while he established a motor passenger service in about 1920 before Keith and his brother moved to the Stawell area to take up wheat growing. Keith sold the licence for his passenger service to his brother in law Billy Adams, a descendant of Captain Adams.

Hindhope was bought on 23-10-1914 by developer Arthur Alfred Thomas who had instructed his surveyor to name the northern boundary of section A after John McComb a Carrum/Seaford farmer who was the last man to farm Hindhope but he labelled it McCombe St. At least he got the spelling of Thomas St right! A huge portion of Hindhope, 14 acres including the Rosebud Plaza site was purchased by Alexander Mackie Younger's first wife, an expert riflewoman who managed to shoot herself just after doing so, according to the only witness, her husband!

The subdivision of The Thicket commenced in 1927, the Rosebud Park Estate being praised for its innovative curved streets such as Warranilla Avenue. Both farms were certainly working farms.

This 128 acres included a 5 acre block at what became known as Martin's Corner and was bounded by Eastbourne, Boneo and Point Nepean roads, extending west almost to the Chinaman's Creek drain. Edward Hobson established a kiln there when he moved from Kangerong and it might have been the one on the corner of Braidwood Rd and Whitehead Grove mentioned by the late Bob Parr. Limeburning seems to have continued on the property until David and William Cairns sons of Alex Cairns and Janet , nee DALGLEISH, bought the property from the MARKS estate in 1906. Mal Cairns discovered a buried limeburner's crowbar when he and other shire workers were making Mirriam Avenue. David Cairns built and later donated, Eleanora, the heritage-listed house within the hospital grounds.The Wong market garden, which gave Chinamans Creek its name, eventually extended the length of Johnson St, named after the man who subdivided it as the BEACH GARDEN ESTATE.
See much more detail in Bettyanne Foster's STORIES OF ROSEBUD WEST.

This was granted to William Allison Blair but little detail of its use has been found. Mrs Alice Fielding, who subdivided the Woodthorpe estate, part of c/a 53, is believed to have been a descendant of Blair. As lime was being quarried on c/a 13 east across Chinaman's Creek, there may have been deposits here too.
See much detail in Bettyanne Foster's STORIES OF ROSEBUD WEST.

CROWN ALLOTMENTS 51, 49, 45 between Elizabeth Avenue and Truemans Rd. THE WOYNA ESTATE.
This 419 acre property was granted to lime merchant, William Allison Blair, who presumably had the intention of extracting lime. John Lovie's grants south across Hiscock Rd were used for agriculture, with 89 acres ploughed when his mortgagee put that property up for sale but it was said to have inexhaustible supplies of lime, and I have seen no reference to lime quarrying on Eastbourne (although the lime for the Eastbourne homestead might have been quarried on site.) Blair also received the grant for c/a 7 between Boneo Rd and the southern half of Eastbourne which might have had lime deposits. The lime merchant also bought land on the southern slopes of Arthurs Seat*, an area noted for its GREEN HILLS, this descriptive term being used as a farm name by Professor Hearn of Heronswood and James Purves, son of Peter. This land was definitely bought for speculative purposes.

* Saturday, 9th November,
At Two o'clock.
At the Hotel, DROMANA,
T. R. B. MORTON and SON (throughJ. L. Parkes, one of their auctioneers) will SELL as above,
All those portions of Land being Crown Allotments 12 a and b and 11 a and b, parish of Wannaeue,county of Mornington, containing 611 acres I rood 8 perches, situated about 4 miles from Dromana, 4 1/2 miles from Rosebud, and 12 miles from Bittern and the new Naval Base. This property, which is known locally as "Blair's," has extensive frontages to go the Splitter's Creek and Purves roads.etc. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 2-11-1912.)

Wannaeue pioneers had long memories and although they'd probably only seen William Allison Blair a couple of times, they remembered this had been his land before he became insolvent before his death at Maidstone,the site of the Medway Golf Course Netherlea in Buckley St,Essendon probably having been sequestered. Although most of Blair's involvement was in the parish of Nepean, WANNAEUE, A MYSTERY TO MOST PEOPLE, had special significance to William Allison Blair's son, William Allison Blair. That's why almost every result on trove for "BLAIR, WANNAEUE concerns a house in Pascoe Vale. It stood on the site of the Red Rooster in Melway 16 G9 until it was illegally demolished without a permit. Heritage studies wrongly claim that John Murray Peck built this house before he owned the Lebanon Estate. I believe it was built in about 1887 as a wedding present for Peck's daughter, Minnie Waters Peck.

BLAIR— PECK.— On the 12th inst., at St John's Church, Essendon, by the Rev. Alexander Stewart,M. A., William Allison, elder son of W. A. Blair, of NETHERLEA, Essendon, to Minnie Waters, younger daughter of. J.M. Peck, of Lebanon, Pascoevale. (P.2, The Herald, 26-4-1888.)

As I have no evidence regarding land use west of Chinamans Creek drain, I'll tell you why I need my Rat Run. As c/a's 13, and 53 on the beach side of Eastbourne Rd and c/a's 12 and 52 do not provide any other through road, I have to ride my bike west on Eastbourne Rd, which banks up at Elizabeth Avenue. However, a left turn into Terry St takes me away from the traffic so I can appreciate Woyna House and recall the workman who died there, it having the only telephone in Rosebud for quite some time, and how it was used as a boarding house for G.W.Hiscock's Cicada Fertiliser workers in the 1920. A left and right into Woyna Avenue takes me to the now demolished Caravan Park, which with the motel site were probably the grounds of the fertiliser factory to which a tramway (shown in old editions of Broadbent's directory) carried peat along the east side of Truemans Rd from the swamp. Hiscock also had plans to erect a tramway along the foreshore to the Rosebud jetty.. I don't think the pioneers who decided to call the area west of Rosebud EASTBOURNE in 1926* would have supported that proposal!

At a public meeting held at Eastbourne a committee of management, consisting of Messrs D Cairns, W. Chatfield, F Luscombe, and W.Truman, was formed to take over control of portion of the foreshore between Rye and Rosebud. It was decided to name the locality Eastbourne.(P.15, Argus, 23-6-1926.)
These pioneers had a sense of history (and geography!)and would have laughed at any suggestion of calling that area of LAND after a deep hole in Port Phillip, and may have had in mind the ailing 90 year old Ned Williams of Eastbourne, a colonist of over 70 years who died less than five months later on November 12th. He married Mary Campbell, who'd come out in 1852 with Robert Cairns and was working as a servant for the Burrells at Arthurs Seat.
EventMarriage Event registration number1263 Registration year1855
Personal information
Family nameWILLIAMS Given namesEdward SexMale Spouse's family nameCAMPBELL Spouse's given namesMary

With a left into Truemans Rd and a left into Wilkinson, I recall that Vale, who'd taken over most of Woolcott's subdivision on c/a 17, had auctioned Stenniken's c/a 48 in about 1920. As in every other subdivision, blocks opposite the foreshore would have sold first and one of the early buildings was Birkdale House which almost resulted in today's Tootgarook being named Birkdale. This was one of the stops for Whitaker's tourist buses from the city.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Friday 4 November 1938 p 16 Advertising
... DROMANA Rosebud, Birkdale, Rye leave Whlght's, 110 Flinders st.

Ron Doig's father bought the eastern half of James Trueman's grants just south of c/a 48 and having married a Rowley girl could not avoid immersion in the area's history. He was responsible in having the historic name, Tootgarook used as the suburb name.

I knew that Burdett St was named after Godfrey Burdett Wilson (or his mother Thamer, nee Burdett) but hadn't given a thought to the origin of the name of my rat run through c/a 48 until I stumbled on this. I'll probably think of it as Annie Wilkinson St, next time I ride along it. Her husband* had probably snapped up the land behind the seaside blocks for a song.

Sec 79 - The Commissioner of Titles having so directed it is intended after fourteen clear days from this publication in The Argus to ISSUE to THE PERPETUAL EXECUTORS AND TRUSTEES ASSOCIATION OF AUSTRALIA LIMITED (executor of the will of ANNIE WILKINSON deceased) a NEW CERTIFICATE of TITLE to all that piece of land being the part of Crown Allot 48, Sec. A Parish of Wannaeue,County of Mornington described in Certificate of Title Vol 5778 Fol.1115414 in lieu of that certificate the duplicate of such having, as is alleged, been lost.
(P.13, Argus, 31-10-1952.)

Annie died in 1952, and her husband, named as William in the obituary of the former nurse*,died in 1954.
Residents of Sale learned with deep regret on Monday that Mr. William A. Wilkinson had passed away suddenly at his residence, 13 Macarthur street. The deceased, who was aged 63 years, had been employed for many years
by the Victorian Railway Department and he gradulated from a fireman to an engine driver. His pleasant manner
and his interest in affairs in Sale made him many friends. His wife predeceased him not long ago, and there is one son, Billy, to whom deep sympathy is extended. He was a member of the 1st A.I.F. and at his funeral the Returned Soldiers conducted a service after Dean Alexander had performed the burial service.
(P.1, The Gippsland Times, 25-11-1954.)
* EventDeath Event registration number23890 Registration year1952
Personal information
Family nameWILKINSON Given namesAnnie Mabel SexFemale Father's nameJEFFRIES Robert Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birthBAIRNSDALE Place of deathSALE Age51

SEE MY JOURNAL re the Woyna name:

In 1859, James Sandle Ford of Portsea and Peter Purves organised a dodgy petition opposing the building of a fence from White Cliff to the Back Beach. The fence was proposed to stop bullocks grazing on the police paddock, the offending owners being these two gentlemen. James Ford looked to Boneo Rd and beyond to extend his grazing opportunities. Peter Purves wealthy (brother?) James also bought land between Wannaeue Station and Little Scotland as well as c/a's 12 and 4 on the west side of Boneo Rd but whether this was for grazing or lime is uncertain.

Henry Reynold's bought c/a 11, the northernmost 166 a 3 r. 10 p. of Wannaeue Station, in June 1856 This fronted today's Eastbourne Rd from Boneo Rd to Jetty Rd, and extended south 2025 links to a line indicated precisely by the Besgrove St corner. James Ford received the grants for c/a's 10 (166 a 2 r. 34 p), 9 (166 a 2 r 18 p) and 8 (161a 1r 0p.) The southern boundary was a never-made eastern extension (to the Tudor Caravan Park Site) of a government road called Hiscock Rd near Truemans Rd. This road, the southern boundary of the original part of the Rosebud Country Club, was just south of the Drum Drum Alloc Creek. In the first assessment of 1864, James Ford Junior was assessed on 720 acres and house in the Wannaeue Division. In 1879, William Ford was assessed on 780 acres. It will never be determined whether the rate collectors were bad adders (no not snakes!)or some other parcel of land was bundled with the 661 acres 1 rood 22 perches of the Wannaeue Estate. In 1900 this farm of more than a square mile had apparently disappeared from the face of the earth. In 1910-11 John L.Fulton, farmer, Rosebud was assessed on 650 acres and building, 8 & 11, Wannaeue.

In 1919-20, John R. Raper was assessed on 660 acres and buildings, c/a's 8,9,10, 11, section A. Wannaeue.

In about 1900 the eastern end of Eastbourne Rd was still known as Ford's Lane. In the 1940's it was officially called Government Road but to locals such as Bill Dryden, it was Roper's Lane.

William Ford's death was not caused by a disease and according to the death notice, he was 38, not 48.

FORD.— On the 20th August, at his residence, William B., second son of James Ford, of Portsea, aged 38 years.
(P.2, The Herald, 27-8-1884.)

By Electric Telegraph,
SORRENTO, Thursday.
Inquiries made respecting the death on Wednesday evening of Mr. William B. Ford,landlord of the Nepean Hotel, Portsea, and councillor of the shire of Flinders, have elicited the fact that the deceased committed
suicide by cutting his throat. He was missed from his room by his wife, and, upon search being made, she found him lying face downwards on the floor, with his throat cut, and quite dead. The police immediately took charge, and a magisterial inquiry will be held tomorrow. The sad event has cast quite a gloom over the district. Troubles of a pecuniary nature are supposed to have been the cause of the rash act.(P.5, The Age, 22-8-1884.)

Extracts from my Shire of Flinders journal.
FORD William B. 1875-83.
William was born in 1846, the eldest son of James Sandle Ford and Hannah, the daughter of Dennis Sullivan.
William was the first chairman of the Kangerong Road Board so his involvement in municipal affairs was much longer than it seemed, if Charles Hollinshed has not made a mistake*. As he died at about 48, he might have had a disease that caused retirement as a councillor.(NO!) He was buried at Quarantine where his mother's family had its lime kiln and house until 1852.(LLL 121.)

*There is little information about the members of the first Kangerong Road board. Charles Hollinshed could only presume that the board was elected at the first meeting to form it at Peter Nowlan's house. No member of the Ford family was among the six who stood for the three seats at the election. As I try to make sense of what I write, I had doubts about William Ford not only being elected at the age of about 17, but being elected chairman of the road board. It seems that the board took a while to get into action, as happened earlier with the Mt Eliza and later with Flinders. So a notice was inserted by Robert Anderson of Barragunda in December, 1864.
KANGERONG ROAD BOARD.-Notice Is hereby given, that an ELECTION for two MEMBERS of tho Kangerong Road Board will take place on Saturday,-December 3, at tho office of tho Board, Dromana, and that the following gentlemen have been duly nominated in accordance with tho provisions of tho Local Government Act:-Robert Caldwell, John Creighton, (sic, Crichton) and James Ford, Jun. ,Esqrs. Poll to open at 8 a.m., and close at 4 p.m.
ROBERT ANDERSON, Returning Officer. Road Board Office, Dromana, Nov. 26,1864. (P.8, Argus, 1-12-1864.)

The Ford genealogy in LIME LAND LEISURE does not mention James Sandle Ford having a son named James, only William and Alfred. Is this wrong or did Anderson make a blue? The 1864 rates list Edward Ford, leasing a house and 6 acres,and a shop (at Boneo) from John Barker,James Ford a 5 roomed house and 720 acres (the Wannaeue Estate), James Ford Jnr 260 acres at Eaton Hill**, and Joseph Ford a hut and 272 acres, all in the Wannaeue Division(east of Government Rd, Rye.) It looks as if the memory of Charles Hollinshed's informants slipped a gear!

** The 260 acres at Eaton Hill(13A and B, Wannaeue) was at Melway 171 B-F 9 and the top half of B-F 10, with Davos St indicating the north east corner and Gardens Rd the western boundary.The name of Eaton Hill came about because of Watson Eaton's 150 acre selection at 190 D1; the untrained doctor would have made many trips up and down the hill to attend patients living to the south before his death resulting from a fall in 1877.

James Ford Jnr lost the above election but gained a seat anyhow. It seems certain that the teenaged William Ford was not the first Chairman of the Kangerong Road Board but it seems that an older brother was a member.

I horeby declare Messrs. R. WATKIN and G. M'LEAR elected members of this board without opposition; and I further declare Mr.JAMES FORD, Jun.*, ELECTED a member of this board without opposition, to fill the extraordinary vacancy caused by the forfeiture of Mr. Caldwell's seat from non-attendance.
JAMES PURVES, Returning Officer. Road Board Office, Dromana, August 9,1866.
(P.8, Argus, 11-8-1866.)

* This would be the birth record of James Ford Junior.
EventBirth Event registration number36370 Registration year1842
Personal information
Family nameFORD Given namesJames SexMale Father's nameFORD James Mother's nameHonora (Sullivan) Place of birthMERRI CREEK

William Ford was 38, not 48, when he died.
EventBirth Event registration number39423 Registration year1846
Personal information
Family nameFORD Given namesWilliam SexMale Father's nameFORD James Mother's nameHannah (Sullivan) Place of birthPOINT NEPEAN

At this time (circa 1880) William owned and resided on the Wannaeue Estate between Rosebud and Boneo, consisting of 661 acres 1 rood and 22 perches, being crown allotments 8-11, section A, Wannaeue. As a returning officer for the West Riding he was to be contacted there (advertisements.) The estate was bounded by Eastbourne Rd, Jetty Rd (and 400 metres of Old Cape Schanck Rd), an unmade government road which ran between the south end of the Rosebud Country Club's frontages to Boneo and Old Cape Schanck Rds(jokingly called Hiscock Rd west of Boneo Rd), and Boneo Rd on the west. The 167 acres (nearly) between Eastbourne Rd and Besgrove St was granted to Henry Reynolds and the rest to James Ford. (See Melway map 171.) See RAPER for more details of the Wannaeue Estate.

While a councillor and living on Wannaeue Station, William Ford had a famous cook! I was reminded of this while watching "High Tide", a history of the British navy.
It is not generally known says the Argus, Melbourne, of the 19th, that one of those who took part in the celebrated naval duel in 1813 between the English frigate Shannon, 36 guns, and the American frigate Chesapeake, 50 guns, is living in the colony in hale and heartv health. His name is Thomas Salmon, and he will be 8O years of age next month. He is employed as cook on the station of Mr. Ford, at Wannaeue, between Rye and Dromana. He appears to be likely to do a good day's work for several years to come, and is only too willing to relate the particulars of the naval confliction in which he was concerned. He narrates with great gusto the fact that it only took them in the Shannon 30 minutes to polish off the Chesapeake ; and speaks with some pride of the circumstance that Captain Broke, of the Shannon, and his first lieutenant, were the first to cut their way through the boarding nettings on to the Chesapeake's deck, when the boatswain piped "boarders away." The old man has a most thorough contempt for the present style of ironclad men-of-war, which he refers to as
"iron pots." The old salt is a "character," and is always ready to spin a yarn relative to his adventures afloat or in the bush. (P.11, The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser,24-2-1877.)

RAPER John. 1933-38. John Raper owned the Wannaeue Estate, whose location is described in detail in the entry for William Ford. Eastbourne Rd (which would have been Federanium Rd if S.S.Crispo's plans for the Federal capital had been accepted)was known to oldtimers as Raper's Lane. The strange thing is that the late Ray Cairns pronounced the surname as Roper; perhaps this was an attempt, like Purves being pronounced as Purvis, to deflect corny jokes about the name.

The history of the Rosebud Country Club, Birdies and Bogies, available in the local history room of the Rosebud library, seems to indicate why John R.Raper (as he is called in the 1919-20 rate records) finished his term in 1938. At a committee meeting on 9-0-1961, T.W.Maw (i.e. Maw Civil)and C.R.Coleman (after whom a street and park near Boneo Rd were named)were appointed to (make a decision on which of the three sites to choose.) They recommended the present site. The site selected was part of a property bounded by (as in the Ford entry.) "It was formerly owned by a Mr Jack Rapir (sic) and purchased by Forestry, Pulp and Paper in 1938 for development as a pine plantation.Shortly after Christmas 1958, a fire swept through 300 acres of the pine forest etc. The land was zoned as "Rural" with the residential zoning ending at Eastbourne Rd.
There were plans to develop a residential area on 30 acres if the land could be rezoned with the 120-150 blocks selling at about 500 pounds each. Try buying them for $1000 today!

DROMANA-A deputation of women to the Flinders Shire Council resulted in a decision to establish a Baby Health Centre for the shire. The work will be proceeded with as soon as permission is granted by the health authorities-Councillor Raper has tendered his resignation from the Flinders Shire Council.
(P.12,Argus, 10-8-1938.)

Sidney Smith Crispo was granted this 282 acre property in 1871 and until I discovered the following amazing article, I had assumed that he had always called it Eastbourne.
Supposed Earthquake at Dromana.
Mr. S. S. Crispe, of Nasce's farm, Mount Rosebud, West Dromana, writes under date 19th November : — "On Saturday night last, about half-past 11 o'clock. I felt what I believe to have been an earthquake ; the motion was from N.E. to S.W., and it was accompanied by a low, rumbling sound. I fancy the motion was along the hills known as Mount Eliza, Martha, and Arthur's Seat,
which are all of a volcanic nature." (P.7, Weekly Times, 24-11-1883.)

Sidney Smith Crispo called his farm, crown allotments 52 and 44 Wannaeue, "Naxos" between 1879 and 1884 and the first time he referred to it as "Eastbourne" was in 1888. The original name might have been used after 1884 but reported with incorrect spelling such as when it was described as being on Mt Rosebud in regard to an earthquake which Sidney had experienced.

As the surname would suggest, Crispo had Italian ancestry- way back. The island of Naxos, Greece was conquered by the Venetians and the Crispo dynasty lasted for 12 generations, so Sidney's choice of name would have been connected to that chain of islands rather than the colony of Naxos in Sicily.
The family later had three generations of tradition in the British Navy, with Sidney growing up in Canada where his father took a job as an administrator when reduced to half pay because peace had been declared. Sidney's campaign to have the Canadian model, (of amalgamating instead of federating), followed to form our nation led to his poem AMALGAMATE THE COLONIES.

Crispo’s frequent letters to the editor left no doubt that Eastbourne was a working farm and it continued so after his death in 1899 despite his desire to see it become the Federal capital.

Mr S.S. Crispo, Eastbourne Rosebud writes to the President of the Shire of Flinders and Kangerong as follows:
Sir, I have the honor to request that the council will give bonuses for the destruction of foxes, and also request that the council will hand me a cheque for £1 5s 0d to repay me for the foxes among my fowls. Should the council decline to get the foxes destroyed I must appeal to the premier on the matter. I would call to the quantity of rubbish and sand left under the bridge near Eastbourne or Federanium as I have named the future federal city. I would congratulate the council on the excellent work done with the bridge, it is better than it was when first made.

I would mention that I wrote to the president of the convention advocating only one Parliament for all the Australian colonies, as besides many other advantages about half the combined incomes of the colonies could
be saved to make railways. I also suggested that as the jealousy was so great between the colonies as to the seat of Government a small place should be chosen as it was in Canada. They could not agree and the Queen was asked to decide. She chose the village of Bytown I believe then smaller than Dromana, it was renamed Ottowa and it answered admirably.

Finding my letter was not read aloud at the convention I wrote to Sir George Turner to ask Mr Kingston to do so. I received a letter to say Sir George Turner had asked Mr Kingston, but that he did not see his way to having it read aloud at the convention, perhaps my remark that I went in for one large iron pot to boil the potatoes and not a lot of tin pot parliaments. Had my letter been read aloud they may have feared the local parliaments would go by the name of Tin pot parliaments. On the 19th inst. I wrote to Sir George Turner and sent him a plan of a city for the federal Government and Parliament houses two miles long by one mile wide with low lands all round and gardens on every side. Streets 4 chains wide, to have trees and flower gardens in every street and tramways in every second street.

I chose this place (Eastbourne) as it has so much Water and much more could be obtained. It is also much cooler than Melbourne or Ballarat and is near to the summer resorts of Dromana, Rosebud, Rye, Sorrento, Portsea and Queenscliff, good fresh air and nice sea water etc. It also has plenty of room between Rye and Rosebud and towards Cape Schank. I have named the future capital of Australia 'Federanium.' The streets a mile and two miles long.
S. S. CRISPO (P.2, Mornington Standard, 5-5-1898.)

Fred Vine was first mentioned in the area in 1866* as I remember, he having discovered a body on the beach. I've recorded the article somewhere very recently but can't find where and it will be difficult to rediscover the article because yet another spelling of his surname is used.

My mistake, it was 1867.
The Fatal Boat accident off Dromana — Mr. Candler held an inquest on Monday, at Dromana, on the body of Henry
Williams, one of the passengers in the steamtug Sophia. Frederick Varen , a fisherman, living at Rosebud,deposed to finding the body of deceased on Thursday, the 11th inst., between 8 and 2 a.m.?? The body was about a mile and a half below Rosebud, in the water, and partly covered with seaweed. He drew the body above high water mark, and gave information to Senior-constable O'Shannassy, who conveyed it to Dromana.(P.4, The Herald, 17-7-1867.)

Fred's death record.
EventDeath Event registration number9201 Registration year1925
Personal information
Family nameVEAN Given namesFrederick SexMale Father's nameUNKNOWN Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathDromana Age100

Death notice of Fred's wife.
VINE.—On the 23rd April, 1920 (suddenly, in Mornington train. Mrs. Julia Josephine Vine, of Rosebud, beloved mother of Mary B. Stone(Rosebud) and George Robert Stone (Templemore, Ireland), faithful wife of Fred Vine (Rosebud), relict of late Timothy Robert Cormic Stone, of Loughmore, Tipperary; youngest daughter of Patrick and Mary Concannon. Mylelough Galway, aged 84 years. A colonist of 57 years. American, Irish, Indian, and Scotch papers please copy. Buried Dromana Cemetery, 25th April.(P.1, Argus, 29-4-1920.)

Fred's stepdaughter.
EventDeath Event registration number9200 Registration year1925
Personal information
Family nameSTONE Given namesMary Bridget SexFemale Father's nameSTONE Robert Mother's nameJulia (Concannon) Place of birth Place of deathDROMANA Age64


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