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His name was James and his wife was Elizabeth nee Dunlop. Their son, James Adam, was born at Tyabb in 1866 (reg. no.17967/1866.)
An earlier son, James*, was born in about 1863 and having died, aged 2 (presuming that meant years) on 19-9-1865, was probably one of the first buried at the historic Tyabb cemetery just north of Hastings.

* HALL James Death
mother: Elizabeth nee DUNLOP father: James
place of birth: VICT place of death: blank
2, 1865, 7659/1865

Poor little James had been born at Westernport, probably Tyabb, in 1863.
HALL James, Birth
mother: Elizabeth nee DUNLOP father: James
place of birth: WEST (obviously WESTERNPORT)
1863, 4733/1863

James was almost certainly the Mr J. Hall of Westernport who drew these two terrific views shown in an 1866 article.

If J.Hall, later the caretaker of the Tyabb cemetery, was James, his caretaking would have been a labour of love! His second son, born in 1866, died at Tyabb in 1886 at the age of 20 and was probably also buried in that cemetery.

It was the interest of Mr J.Hall of Hastings in social science chiefly concerning trees (potash from mangroves* and cultivation of lemon and orange trees**) which made me try a Tyabb search.

James Hall's wife died in 1914.
HALL Elizth Death
mother: Margt nee MCCREADY father: Dunlop Adam
place of death: Hastings, 84, 1914, 9955/1914

HALL. —On the 27th July, at her late residence, "Tecoma," Hastings, Elizabeth, relict of the late James Hall, of Hastings, and dearly loved mother of Mrs. J. M. Watt, of "Gowrie," Hastings, in her 85th year.
(P.1, Argus, 29-7-1914.)

James Hall had died in 1894.
HALL Jas Death
mother: Amelia PORDAGE father: Jas
place of death: Hastings, 73, 1894, 13418/1894

HALL.—On the 9th inst., at his late residence, Tecoma, Hastings, James Hall, master mariner, aged 73.
(P.1, Argus, 12-10-1894.)

James Adam Hall, born in 1866, whose second given name was the given name of Elizabeth's father, was not mentioned in Elizabeth's death notice because he had died at Tyabb in 1886.

HALL James Death
mother: Elizth nee DUNLOP father: Jas
place of death: TYABB, 20, 1886, 7703/1886

Found with a "Tecoma" Hastings search.
It is with regret that we have to announce the death of one of the oldest residents of Hastings, in the person of Mrs Hall, who passed away at her late residence, "Tecoma," after a very short illness, at the advanced age of 85. Mrs Hall was suffering from bronchial pneumonia and heart failure, which only caused the deceased lady to be confined to her bed since Thursday last. Much sympathy is felt for Mrs Watt, of Gowrie, daughter of the deceased lady.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, Frankston, 1-8-1914.)

WATT—HALL.—On the 3rd August, 1910, at Melbourne, by the Rev. T. Edwards, Presbyterian minister, James M. Watt, of Hastings, to Amy, only daughter of the late James Hall and Mrs. Hall of "Tecoma", Hastings. (P.13, Argus, 8-10-1910.)

No wonder I couldn't find Amy's birth record or marriage record. I was starting to think she'd been adopted. I looked for James Watts' marriage record.
HALL Amelia, Marriage, WATT James Morice 1910 6715/1910

Amelia's birth record.
HALL Amelia birth
mother:Elizabeth nee DUNLOP father: James
place of birth registration: SCHNAPPER (POINT)
1861, 19778/1861*
*1861 was the year Tyabb Township was proclaimed!

WATT Amelia Death
mother: Elizabeth nee DUNLOP father: HALL James
places of birth and death: QUEENSFERRY???, HASTINGS
80, 1941, 21559/1941

The place of birth given in a death record can't be trusted! It is possible that Elizabeth gave birth near Queen St in Melbourne just before her master mariner husband set sail and he registered the birth at Mornington. I wonder if James or Elizabeth was born at Queensferry and the informant misunderstood the registar's question.

Death record of Amelia's husband.
WATT James Morice Death
mother: Anne nee MORICE father: WATT John
place of death: FRANKSTON
67, 1932, 1619/1932

James Morice Watt provides yet another example of the many connections between the histories of the area near Tullamarine and the Mornington Peninsula. He was the son of John Watt, one of the ealiest settlers (grantee of Oakfield) at Somerton whose son John Oliver rang the bell at the historic Scots Church at Campbellfield for decades from 1875 to 1922.

After his first wife died in 1854 at 'Oakfield',[3] in 1857 John returned to Scotland with his children on 'Roxburgh Castle'. His eldest daughter, Anne, died at the age of 17 years on this voyage. [4]
John married again to Ann Morice on 3 June 1859 in Old Machar Aberdeen Scotland.

James Hall had married Elizabeth Dunlop in 1860 (register number 2079/1860.)



JONES.— On the 8th August, at his brother's residence*, Summerville, after a lingering illness, borne with Christian patience. Walter Edwin Jones, late of Dargo High Plains, in his 55th year. Deeply regretted. (P.1, The Age, 16-8-1881.)

Alfred's residence would have been the 500 acre property near the north end of the parish of Tyabb which he called Almond Bush Stud. See its location on the parish map.

By the start of 1883, Alf seems to have decided to retire from farming and to lease or sell his property on which Nurse Sage* spent her childhood days (source of this fact over 10 years ago was a descendant of pioneers whose identity I don't recall, but probably the late Leila Shaw.)

By 1921, J.E.Sage was on Alfred Jones' Almond Bush Stud, carrying on the horse breeding tradition.

To Stand this season at Somerville At "Almond Bush" Travel if Required. The Champion Pony Stallion MALDON BEAUTIFUL Dappl.rt " foaled 1910, with good, clean, flat bone and plenty of muscle, style and action and stands about 18.2 hands high. Maldon is by Boy out of Fannie. Roy is by Fauntleroy. Maldon's dam, Fannie, is by Silver Prince, grand sire Silver King (imp). Maldon gained the Society's Champion Ribbon at Frankston in 1914, and in 1919 at Royal Show, Melbourne, First in Class as Sire of Harness Ponies, and Champion for Best Pony. TERMS...... For further particulars apply to J. E. SAGE*, Somerville. Also at Stud the Pure Bred Berkshire Boar bred by Dookie College ...... FeI lOs Shorthorn Bull At Stud .... Fee 10l.
(P.1s,Frankston and Somerville Standard, 4-11-1921.)
*John Edward Sage, son of Edward Arthur Sage and May Ann, nee Murray, born in 1882, was Nurse Sage's much older brother.

At Twelve O'clock.
Six Miles from Frankston
GA. BYRNE has received instructions from Alfred Jones, Esq., to SELL by PUBLIC AUCTION, at his residence, as above,
The whole of the Almond Bush Stud,
Consisting of 60 useful well-bred carriage and light harness horses ; about 30 unbroken, three and four years old, by L. L. and Moonbeam ; also 50 fat crossbred sheep and a pure bred bull. Luncheon provided.
Terms Cash.
G. A. Byrne Main Street, Mornington.
N.B. Train leaves Prince's Bridge for Frankston 7.30 a.m.
(P.3, Argus, 23-1-1883.)

JONES Walt Edwd (sic) Death
mother: Sarah COOPER father: Thos
(place of birth probably London)
place of death registration SNAPPER PT
spouse at death: RUDDELL, Jane
55 1881 8917/1881

In response to your email concerning James Hodgins:
The James you refer to is my great grandfather, who came out to Australia with a cousin William. After a quick and fairly nonproductive visit to the goldfields, they teamed up with two sets of brothers - the Jones and McKerlie boys - to cut she-oak at Mt Eliza for shipment to Melbourne. Jones had been cutting on Davey's land, and by the time they joined forces they were cutting on JT Smith's property further around the coast - which subsequently was called "Canadian Bay".
The two Jones boys were British-born but had migrated to (Upper) Canada, from whence they came to Australia on the Scargo in 1853, along with the McKerlies.

The Jones boys stayed on in the Mornington/Somerville area - Alfred for much longer than his brother Walter (another story). From his property Alfred became a butcher and led a significant public life - witness Jones Road in Somerville. Walter became a grazier in the Dargo area.

JONES Alfd Death
mother: Unknown nee UNKNOWN father: Unknown
place of birth: London* death: Frankston, 84, 1906, 1617/1906
* As stated in his 1888 biography in Victoria and its Metropolis ; Past and Present, P 395.Summary.
Born in London,Alf went to Canada with his parents at the age of 12 in 1832. Arriving in Victoria in March 1853 he went to Bendigo with a party of 5 and found 15 ounces of gold in 5 weeks. He had no luck at McIvor's Diggings (Heathcote) and moving to FRANKSTON (Parish of!), supplied the town of Melbourne and the troop(er)s with firewood at three pounds ten shillings per load. After two years, competition had lowered profits so he rented Baxter's Flat for 5 years and in 1860 purchased 500 acres at Somerville, then called Tyabb (Parish of!).

Alfred's death record has no detail about his parents and having read Lance Hodgin's information above, I wondered if Walter's death record would supply the missing details, which it did.

Walter married Jane in 1873.
JONES Walter Edwin Marriage RUDDELL, Jane 1873 3870/1873

This is almost certainly Jane's death record and the name of the house at Hawthorn* where she died was probably Tuerong.
JONES Jane Death
mother: Isabella nee HALL father: Ruddell Ralph
place of death: Hawth, 59, 1890, 12112/1890
Auburn became Hawthorn East.

JONES—RUDDELL.—On the 26th inst., at Trinity Church, East Melbourne, by the Rev. H. N. Wollaston, Walter Edwin Jones, Esq., of High Plains station, North Gipps Land, to Jane, eldest daughter of Ralph Ruddell, Esq., late of Teurong, Mornington.
(P.1, Argus, 28-11-1873.)

Tuerong was occupied by George Bolton Eagle in 1843, and by William Dawson in 1845. Dawson transferred to John McKenzie and Joseph Hall* in July, 1849. Ralph Ruddell acquired the licence in 1852, and Vaughan and Wild ultimately in 1860.

*Ralph Ruddell's wife Elizabeth was a daughter of Joseph Hall.

Tuerong was the name of a run which extended south from the line of Tuerong Rd to the Westernport shore and adjoined the eastern boundary of Jamieson's Social Survey. There was one more transfer of the occupation licence before it was cancelled, back to Ralph Ruddell who purchased the Tuerong pre-emptive right. Joseph McIlroy often wrote about Riddells Plain, not realising that the man after whom the area was named was Ralph Ruddell. Ralph lost Tuerong Station due to insolvency in about 1863 and the Wilsons (descended from Bonnie William of Dundee) took over the property for some time.

See the Tuerong pre-emptive right on the Moorooduc parish map.

Ralph's son, T.J.Ruddell, who married in 1877, obviously had fond memories of Tuerong as he named his houses in Oxley St Hawthorn and Cowper St Auburn (East Hawthorn) after the property.

On 2-7-1860, Jane's younger sister Margaret married John McMahon, second son of James McMahon, Esq., Long Beach Station, on the site of today's Riviera Hotel. Why was it then that her eldest sister did not marry until 1873? In 1855 Jane would have been about 14 year old and Walter Edwin Jones almost 30 years old. If she had seen the Canadian woodcutter and his brother Alfred at that time, its not too hard to imagine Jane developing a crush on the much older Walter.*


Mornington Cemetery is a cemetery serving the Mornington Peninsula area of Melbourne. It is located at 40 Craigie Rd, Mount Martha.[1]
The cemetery was first Surveyed in 1855, and was originally called the Mt. Martha Cemetery, then the Moorooduc Cemetery.
It contains a number of pioneer graves for the district.[2]

The above is from Wikipedia which is very keen on contributors providing sources for claims. Was [2] proof of the claim that the cemetery was originally called the MOUNT MARTHA Cemetery, a claim that certainly needs to be verified? No! It provides a link to Valerie Wilson's terrific articles about the pioneers buried there, a worthy service to readers. However the fact that it contains pioneer graves does not need to be verified; almost all early cemeteries would.
2. Wilson, Valerie. "A Guide to Pioneer Graves". Mornington & District Historical Society.
This map is a copy but it is dated 18 Decr, 1855, the year that the cemetery was surveyed. (Paste the bold type into your search bar.)
The cemetery measuring 1945 x 1000 links (389 x 200 metres) had an area of 29 acres 1 rood and 32 perches and it was originally called (drum roll -----) CEMETERY.

I've done my level best to verify that it WAS called the MOUNT MARTHA CEMETERY but it looks as if it never bore that name.

If it was, anyone who can provide proof, not just repeat somebody's undocumented claim, will become one of my history heroes!


From pages 136-7 of PUBS, PUNTS AND PASTURES by Joan Carstairs and Maureen Lane, available online. Paste the link, given in bold type, into your search bar to read the book.

MARIA MCINTYRE ---------------------JAMES CHERRY
Born: 1848, Melbourne married 1869 Born: 1838, County Down
Died: 12.7.1927 Richmond---------- Died: 1889, Footscray
----------------------------------Parents: William & Jane Cumming

WILLIAM CHERRY, aged 36, labourer, and his wife JANE CUMMINGS CHERRY, aged 31, housemaid, arrived in Port Phillip on the 'Marquis of Bute' on the 30th of November, 1841. They came from County Down, Ireland. The children who accompanied their parents were: Sarah Jane, 11 yrs.; Eliza, 9 yrs.; James, 6 yrs. and Robert, 4 yrs. At least one more child, William, was born after arrival as we know from later marriage and death records. There could have been other girls born here who married, changed their names and became very hard to find. James, William and Robert married Maria McIntyre, Louisa Doherty and Eliza Blair respectively, and were having children in the 1870s / 80s at Maidstone.

European settlers
William Cherry migrated from Belfast in 1841. Soon after arriving he began farming in the Keilor area*. By 1861, he owned 2,500 acres extending from Brooklyn down to Altona. Part of this landholding later passed to William’s son James. It is believed that
James’s home, Brooklyn Lodge, gave name to the suburb.

1842: William Cherry took out pasturage licences around the Kororoit Creek, Altona, calling the farm “Shandwick”*. By 1861, he had purchased 2,500 acres at Crown land sales fringing Kororoit Creek from Brooklyn to Altona.

* "Soon after arriving" is rather vague whereas the information about the pasturage licences is quite definite, so that would make it seem that William first lived near Kororoit Creek rather than Keilor. However, to cross the Saltwater River with stock, a very roundabout route was required. William would have had to head north from Melbourne, crossing the Moonee Moonee chain of Ponds on Main's bridge at Flemington and climbing steadily until he reached today's Buckley St West at Essendon, which for many decades was known as Braybrook Road. Then he would head west to today's Milleara Rd, turning left to head south to roughly Raglan St, Avondale Heights, then down to Grimes' Flat and westward along the north bank of the river to roughly the south end of today's Rhonda St, Avondale Heights where there was a ford. (He would have been wasting his time travelling west along today's Canning St to the river unless he was likely to die of thirst. There he would have found fresh water BUT NO FORD at Melway 27 B8!)

It was the ford at Melway 27 C9 that would allow him to cross from the parish of Doutta Galla to the parish of Cut Cut Paw.

It was at this point in 1803 that Charles Grimes' party had to continue their journey upstream on foot because of the rocks, and found that the water was still salty. This was the ford that John Aitken would have used to reach Mount Aitken west of Sunbury and Dr. Andrew Thompson to travel to Corio. The ford at 27B8 was built by Michael Clancy in the 1860's to link his Doutta Galla and Cut Cut Paw grants (and possibly to prevent the fresh water fronting his property being tainted by king tides and to make use of the rocks from his rock walls which Thomas Derham's henchmen had strewn over his crops in order to persuade him to leave. By that time the bridge at the bottom of Smithfield Rd had been built so to describe the ford at 27B8 as "SOLOMANS (sic) FORD, (Historic crossing to Ballarat goldfields)" is nonsense for several reasons.

James Reid's 1855 plan of Braybrook Township shows Grimes' Rocks, the original Solomons Ford, and an un-named road (between Duke St and the river) leading to the second Solomons Ford, providing access to North Rd, Avondale Heights with the ramp up the escarpment being the western boundary of Thompson Reserve.
* James Reid's 1855 map of Braybrook Township.

You will notice on Reid's map that the portion of Braybrook Township in Cut Cut Paw near the south bank of the river had not been alienated. That was probably why a new Solomons Ford was needed in 1855, so valuable land on the steep south bank could be subdivided and sold by the government.

After about 1855, the second Solomons Ford had become the direct route between Keilor and Altona. Another possible route was Sunshine Avenue, McIntyre Rd and Anderson Rd to Brooklyn, passing the McIntyre farm. This may be how James Cherry and Maria McIntyre first met each other. (See start of journal.)

William and Jane's son, Robert, arrived with his parents at the age of 4 as stated at the beginning of the journal. There was another Robert Cherry mentioned in the 1840's who was a poundkeeper and watchhouse keeper at Geelong in 1848. He was possibly the Robert Cherry who died at Mt Moriac (not far south west of Geelong) in 1882.

CHERRY Robert Death mother: Unknown father: Jno. place of death: MT.MORIAC
spouse at death: SPENCE, Ann 70, 1882, 2773/1882

There was no death notice, and to add to the confusion, probate of the will of Robert Cherry (Robert Cherry, £345, P.20, Advocate, 14-10-1882) was granted. Robert Cherry's widow Jane (of Duneed, a settlement near Mt Moriac) had applied for probate of his will in August 1882 (P.8, Argus, 16-8-1882.)

There are only 5 death records for ROBERT CHERRY between 1860 and 1900, the name of the spouse at death given in three cases, none named Jane, and the place of birth in the other two being Sale.


To avoid confusion with other people named Robert Cherry, most results for the son of William and Jane Cherry can be found by using his name and adding Seaford or Wyndham as search terms.

Some sources give the impression that Robert coined Seaford as a property name.
Robert Cherry 1838-1910 and his wife Elisabeth (Eliza) (nee Blair) 1841-1899. Robert is the son of William and Jane Cherry. Robert built Seaford Estate north of Cherry Lake. Seaford Estate was a large property that stood on an area of land bordered by Millers Road, Kororoit Creek Road and Kororoit Creek.

Robert served as a Werribee councillor and was elected as Shire President in 1881-1882 and again in 1896-1897. Robert spent his later years in Seaford House in Auburn Road, Hawthorn where his wife Eliza died in 1899.

Robert and Eliza are buried within Melbourne Cemetery near William and Jane Cherry (Presbyterian, Section G)

William Cherry may have coined Seaford as a name circa 1842 when crossing Kororoit Creek at a ford such as the one linking Racecourse Rd and Altona Rd at Melway 55 C8.

He used the name in the death notice for his wife, Jane, inserted in The Argus and The Age. The typesetter at the latter obviously needed glasses.

On the 10th inst., at Seaford House, near Williamstown, Jane, the beloved wife of Mr. William Cherry, aged 47 years, from near Spaw Well, county Down, Ireland. (P.4, Argus, 12-5-1857.)

I'll have to change the search term from Seaford to find the other death notice. Amazingly, Trove produced 90 results for ICEFORD, most due to poor digitisation. Luckily the death notice in The Age was the first result.
On the 10th inst., at Iceford House, near Williamstown, Jane the beloved wife of Mr. William Cherry, aged 47 years, from near Spaw Wall, County Down, Ireland.(P.4, The Age, 11-5-1857.)

Amazingly the funeral notice in the Argus of the 11th made the same mistake.
Funeral Notices.
THE Friends of Mr. WILLIAM CHERRY are most respectfully invited to follow the remains of his late wife from his residence, Iceford House, near Williamstown. The funeral to move from his house at ten o'clock on Tuesday next, and be at Flemington at half-past two, to the New Cemetery. THOMAS JENNINGS, Undertaker, 128 Queen-street, Melbourne.

The only results on trove for SEAFORD in Victoria before 1913 are in connection with William Cherry's family!

There is a reason that adjoining grants are included. Prices paid are "per acre". The numbers 131 to 141 refer to the order of auctions not crown allotment details, which follow the order of sale number.
Section 16.
Upset price £ 1 per acre.
131 375a 16p, allotment A. William Taylor, £ 1 2s. (This is the Taylors Lakes area between the old Calder Highway and Keilor Downs. The rest have a river frontage from Overnewton College to the bottom right corner of Melway 14 J5.)
132 179a 3r allotment B. William Taylor, £1 10s .
133, 121a 3r, allotment C. William Taylor, £3 5s .

Upset price £ 1 10s per acre
134 92 a 3r, allotment D. A. Russell, £1 10s
135 80a 3r 15p, allotment E. A. Russell, £2

Upset price £2 per acre,
136 19a 2r, allotment F, William Cherry, £5 2s.
137 22a 20p, allotment G .William Cherry, £6.
138 27a 3r 10p, allotment H, William Cherry, £3 18s.

Upset price £1 10s per acre.
139 45a 2r, allotmont I. Patrick Geraghty, £2 4s
140 40a 10p, allotment J. Isaiah Mills, £2
141 41a 12p, allotment K. Wm. Highett, £1 16s .

See the top right hand corner of the Maribyrnong parish map.

When I saw the following, I presumed that William was making use of crown land adjacent to his grants, not land near the Moonee Ponds, as stated. However all the land adjacent to his grants had ceased to be crown land by the end of June 1849.

OCCUPYING CROWN LANDS.—A man named William Cherry, residing near Keilor Inn, appeared at the Police Office, yesterday, to plead
to an information filed against him by District Chief Constable Brodie, for occupying Crown Lands without a license. Mr. Jennings, solicitor, appeared for defendant, and took several objections, which were answered by Mr. Brodie.
A long discussion took place as to the necessity for setting forth in the information that defendant did not hold the lands under lease, demise, license, etc., which Mr. Brodie contended was unnecessary. After some time the Chief Constable withdrew the
information with the intention of filing a fresh one. (P.2, Argus, 24 OCTOBER, 1849.)

Illegally Occupying Land. — William Cherry, who some time since had been proceeded against by Chief District Constable Brodie, fur occupying waste lands of the Crown without a license, situated near the Moonee Ponds, and who had been found guilty, and fined in a penalty of £10, subjected at the same time (at the suggestion of Mr. Henry Jennings, the Attorney, and by the permission of the bench) to an official reference to his Honor the Superintendent, on two grounds, viz : First— objecting to
the right of Mr. Brodie to lay the information without producing his authority from government to do so, and secondly of the same charge having been entertained on a prior occasion, and dismissed through an informality. These two objections were
severally put by his Honor to Mr. Croke, who overruled them both, considering the authority deputed in the Government Gazette
to Mr. Brodie, as sufficient to warrant his so acting, and further deciding that it required no extension of his authority for
him to resume the charge at any time or under any circumstances when individuals committed themselves under the Act. The
bench therefore decided that Mr Cherry should pay the fine originally inflicted of £10, and have 14 days to pay it in.
(P.4, Port Phillip Gazette and Settler's Journal, 20-12-1849.)

Mrs John F Hayes of Moonee Ponds was a grand-daughter of William Cherry and this article has photos of William and medals he'd won for his horses, all from the 1850's.

Mrs J.F.Hayes? Who was she?
We go back to the information from PUBS, PUNTS AND PASTURES at the start of the journal. Her father WHO MARRIED IN 1869 was James Cherry whose house was named BROOKLYN. Her given name was Lizzie or Elizabeth.

CHERRY (nee McIntyre).—On the 12th July, at her residence, 9 Muir street, West Richmond, Maria Theresa, relict of the late James
Cherry, of Brooklyn, Geelong road, Brooklyn, and loving mother of Lizzie (the late Mrs. J. F. Hayes), Annie (deceased), James, Hubert, Walter, Emmie (Mrs. Norman Job), Ossie, Willie, and Fred, in her 80th year. Born in Port Philip, 1847.
(P.1, Argus, 14-7-1927.)

1857. purchases (near Altona)
William's division of estate among sons.


Well, for a start, Lanty was a nickname. Here's somebody else with the nickname, thoughtfully provided free by when I Googled LANTY CHENEY.

Lanty Armstrong (Word)
Description: DAR description
LANCELOT "Lanty" THOMAS Armstrong (born 1740)
Both CHENEY and LANCELOT were names of French origin taken to England at the time of the Norman Conquest. Two meanings of the origin of Lanty are given, one concerned with early Irish Christian tradition, and not likely to be adopted by conquerors. The other one started near the Lakes District in England's north west, Lanty being short for Lancelot.
Two Lake District residents named Lancelot but known as Lanty were Lanty Dobson after whom Lanty's Tarn was named, and Lanty Slee, moonshiner and smuggler. Countless other examples emerged on genealogical forums of Lancelots called Lanty.

DEATH.-Cheney, George Cheney, beloved son of Lancelot Cheney of Williamstown, died at Woollong, New South Wales on the 17th of June, 1889, after a long and painful illness. Age 41 years. (P.2, Williamstown Chronicle, 22-6-1889.)

Here's George's birth record (Victorian BDM).
CHENEY George, Birth
mother: Jane nee UNKNOWN father: CHENEY Launcelot
place of birth: WILLIAMSTOWN, 1848, 15839/1848

Here's his parents' marriage record.
CHENEY Lancelot Marriage NARROWAY, Jane 1846 3829/1846

And the birth record of Lanty and Jane's only other child. The mother's family name at birth was required.
CHENEY Emma Jane Birth
mother: Jane nee SHEPHERD father:Lancelote Chris
place of birth: WILLIAMSTOWN, 1857, 5501/1857

People get information from Family tree Circles for free, so I get the greatest pleasure from getting free snippets from That was how I already knew the year of Emma Jane's birth but there were also details about her parents.

Lancelot Christopher Cheney 1813-1890 was born in Irvinestown, county Fermanagh, Ireland and Jane Shepherd (1817-1873) was born in Aston Rowant, Oxfordshire, England. In 1846 Lanty would have been about 33 and Jane about 29.

Jane Shepherd must have been married to a Mr Narroway before her marriage to Lanty. Narroway was a name associated with Williamstown, especially James Narroway. This might be his birth record and Jane nee Shepherd might have been his mother.

NARROWAY James Birth
mother: Jane UNKNOWN father: NARROWAY James
place of birth: MELBOURNE, 1844, 11660/1844

mother: Jane nee SHEPHERD father: Narroway Jas
place of death: Wmstn, 58, 1902, 16074/1902

I wonder why Jane's death notice doesn't mention her daughter Emma Jane.
CHENEY - On the 22nd December, at her residence,Twyford street, Williamstown, Jane, the beloved wife of Lancelot Christopher Cheney, and mother of G.Cheney, draper, Prahran, aged fifty-five years. Home papers please copy.
(P.8, Weekly Times, 27-12-1873.)

CHENEY Emma Jane Death
mother: Jane SHEPHERD father: Launcelot Ch
place of death: WILL, 17, 1874, 9445/1874

Lanty's obituary.
We regret to record the death of one of
the oldest pioneers of Victoria
, and one of
the oldest residents of Williamstown. The
deceased, Mr. L. C. Cheney, came to Port
Phillip in 1841, and worked amongst the
earliest settlers
; subsequently he settled in
Williamstown in 1847, since which date he
has hardly ever left the town. At the age
of 83 he passed peacefully away, and at his
request Capt. Luke and his happy band (the
Salvation Army), performed the last rites
and ceremonies of their practical religion,
the funeral being largely attended.
(P.3, Williamstown Chronicle, 19-4-1890.)

POSTSCRIPT, 8-6-2022.
I had not added LANTY'S death record to the journal at the time of writing, possibly because of Victorian BDM becoming unavailable due to maintenance or I had not found it due to the spelling of Lancelot.

CHENEY Launcellotte Christr Death
mother: father:, Wm
place of death:Wmstown
83, 1890 10160/1890

Lanty's Timeline.
1841. Arrives, as in the obituary.

1845. In the winter of 1845 Georgiana McCrae sent one of the men working for the McCraes to Mrs Smith to borrow some beef because the McCraes had run out, and the contract with their workers Henry Tuck and Lanty Cheney specified a ration of ten lbs of beef per week; Mrs Smith sent back not only the requested beef but a ham and greens as well.59
(P.13, I SUCCEEDED ONCE, Marie Hansen Fels.)

1846. Marries Jane nee Shepherd, widow of James Narroway.

1847. Settles in Williamstown.

1890. Dies having spent 43 years at Williamstown.

If somebody can prove that Lancelot Christopher Cheney was not Lanty Cheney, I will applaud such an achievement!


This work started as a post on the PIONEERS OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA Facebook page but was likely to run out of room before long. Links will work here if copied into your search bar.

To maintain my improved health, I have decided to cease further research except when it is specially requested.

The glossary, mainly STORYTELLING, mentions only what I have been able to add, with extensive documentation here and on family tree circles, to Peninsula history published by others. This will be my last extensive post but will continue until my memory fails, with documentation only provided in exceptional circumstances such as correction of published history and the name of the commissioner of trade and custom mentioned by Robert Rowley who approved expenditure for the construction of the Canterbury Jetty (for his own benefit.)

ANDERSON, Robert Murray. Murray River paddle-steamer captain, born near the mouth of the Murray River, this being the reason for his second given name. He was a close friend and supporter of Clement John De Garis, developer of The Heart of Rosebud Estate at Rosebud, between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd. Naming Murray Anderson Rd after him was the least that De Garis could do to thank the Mildura pioneer for lending him heaps of money and writing a glowing infomercial extolling the potential of the developer's failed estate in Western Australia. (See DE GARIS.)

BEACHDALE. Where the heck was that?
In 1912, Carrum farmer, John McComb leased the Hindhope Estate, the northern half of c/a 14 Wannaeue between First Avenue and Boneo Rd, from the beach road south to 50 First Avenue and Hope St blocks. In 1913 his name was crossed out and replaced by that of Arthur A.Thomas, a developer after whom Thomas St was named, but this time John was described as a Seaford farmer. Thomas had probably been asked to name the first street on the estate after John by the previous owners, Greg and Nora Rigg but the surveyor named the south border of block A , the one which fronts today's Rosebud Plaza, as McCombe St.

The area south of Seaford Rd was variously called Frankston or Carrum up to 1913 when a progress association was formed and decided to name the area BEACHDALE (much like pioneers west of Rosebud who formed a foreshore committee in 1926 decided to call that area Eastbourne.) However a station was built at Beachdale soon after and a poll of residents favoured Seaford for its name so the progress association amended its name a few months after its original decision, at the time that the occupancy of Hindhope at Rosebud was amended in the Flinders and Kangerong ratebook (with John McComb now described as a SEAFORD farmer and then being replaced by Thomas as the person to be rated.)
The suburb's name could not be more historical significant because Long Island was used by early travellers to avoid the Carrum swamp until reaching the site of Frankston's Mile Bridge where a ford near the sea was crossed, often up to their necks as in the case of William Thomas.

During my first visit to the Nepean Historical Society museum about a decade ago, I picked up a pamphlet about Blairgowrie which stated that it was named after the house of that name (formerly Villa Maria) and that the area's first name was Canterbury, but that was actually its second name.

Jack Ritchie's excellent history of Blairgowrie can ironically be most readily found by googling BLAIRGOWIRE. This will appear:
Showing results for blairgowrie
Search instead for blairgowire-
if you click on the latter, Jack's history will be the first result.

The original name for the area, Manners-Sutton, was coined by Sidney Smith Crispo to honour the Governor and his wife. Crispo established a private village of that name in the late 1860's and when Sir John Manners Sutton became Viscount Canterbury, Crispo renamed his village as Canterbury. There was no coastal road near the village, probably because of a steep rise near White Cliff; this ended at Rye and those travelling west from Rye had to use Melbourne Road. To provide access for potential buyers, Crispo built a boat jetty near the beach access track 400 metres west of Canterbury Rd shown in the top left corner of Melway 167H2.(probably similar to Walter and Charlie Burnham's much later jetty near Boneo Rd, an Arthur Boyd painting of which can be seen in ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD.)

The Village of Sorrento was only six months old when Crispo placed this advertisement.
From Frankston to
Schnapper Point,
Dromana, Tootgarook, Point Nepean,
Manners Sutton,
Schanck, Queenscliff,
Hastings, Flinders, and Sandy Point, for
Phillip Island.
County of Mornington, see to it. Thousands
of the people of Melbourne would doubtless
avail themselves of a railway to visit the sea coast
towns and places; but before again bringing the
subject under the notice of the Hobson's Bay and
Brighton Railway directors, it would be well to get a
list of the names of persons in the county of Morning-
ton who are likely to travel by the new line and if
the names and addresses are sent to
S. S. Crispo, Esq., Twynstead Cottage, Forster
street, Botanical-gardens, St. Kilda, he will attend to
this business. (P.4, Argus, 14-6-1870.)

BRYAN'S CUTTING. Just as Venice might have been been confused with Venus at Mornington, Sheila Skidmore called Bryan's Cutting O'BRIEN CUTTING when discussing the three cuttings connecting Boundary Rd Dromana with Red Hill and parts west over Arthurs Seat. Colin McLear thought that John Bryan's real name was Bryan Watson. After Mary Ann Adams moved from The Willow on the Survey at the start of the 1860's, John Bryan replaced her but when Susan Peatey, midwife,, delivered two of his children on 3-2- 1867 and 27-10-1869, the parents were named as Margaret and Peter Watson.

Peter had become insolvent before the second of these two births.
Peter Watson, commonly known as John Bryan, of Dromana, laborer. Causes of insolvency: losses on contracts and want of employment. Liabilities, £33 19s 9d ; assets, £I6_10s; deficiency, £47 9s 9. (P.3, The Herald, 6-8-1869.)

It is possible that he had created the cutting before he moved onto The Willow by dragging logs down the hill through the Town Common between Robert Caldwell's Dromana Hill and William Grace's Gracefield. The start of the cutting was today's Hillview Quarry Rd, continued along a fire access track shown in Melway 159 J10, H11. Melbourne Brindle was well aware of John Bryan's hut on the mountain and the cutting which he labelled TO BRYAN'S HUT on his pre-1919 map of Dromana. Peter's debt was possibly the rent on The Willow.

By October 1895, Peter Watson had done well enough to purchase c/a's 25 A and 24C, section B Wannaeue, about 172 acres near the summit between Purves and Main Creek Rds. He'd possibly bought these blocks to harvest their timber.

CAMPBELL, Archibald Colin, Mornington.
Mornington Peninsula Shire's digitisation officer until recently, Murray Adams, undertook a massive project to provide information after whom reserves in the shire were named. A.C.Campbell was the first reserve discussed.
Murray wrote:
A.C. Campbell Reserve, Seaton Rd, Mornington
Archibald Colin Campbell was a Mornington Shire Councillor in the South Riding from 1948-51, and again from 1966-71. He represented Mt Martha Riding from 1955-1966.
He lost his seat to Charles Wilson in 1951. He was reportedly not at all happy because he was on holiday in Central Australia with several mates and C.B. Wilson beat him in his absence. He made a comeback in Mt Martha in 1955, but he transferred to South Riding again after a redistribution, and he beat C.B. Wilson in 1966.He was Mornington Shire President in 1957, and again in 1965.
When the Shire sold off the former market and sale yards near the Tanti Hotel in 1966, Colin Campbell, who had established a B.P. oil depot there some time earlier, bought Lot 1. Lot 6 was sold to the Hotel and they used it for car parking.
He opened the Beleura Hill Pre-school Centre, Mornington as Shire President in 1966.

I posted the link to Murray's NAMING OF THE RESERVES article on the PIONEERS OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA Facebook page and Richard Baker posted a comment that he believed that A.C. Campbell was a former policeman. He was right.

Paste the links into your search bar to access the articles, both of which were published in 1946.
Mornington was represented in the State Swimming Championship by Douglas Campbell, son of Senior-constable A. C. Campbell, of Mornington.

Senior Constable A. C. Campbell has acquired the well-known business of Mornington Cafe, owned by Mrs. Ryan, who has retired from business. Senior Constable Campbell officially retires on 22nd April, after over 22 years of service in the Police Force. He has been stationed in many parts of the State-firstly at the Police Depot. From there his duties have confined him to Sea
Lake, Swan Hill, Benambra, Lakes Entrance, Cann River, Foster, and in the last two years at Mornington.

He is a former president of the Police Association, and is at present president of the Mornington Athletic Association and Football Club. He is also a member of the Australian Jersey Herd Society and is owner of Yanakie Jersey Stud, Foster.

CANTERBURY. See Blairgowrie.
1. Rosalind Peatey used the places of birth of George and Susan Peatey's children to trace their whereabouts after arrival. Edward Norman was born in Tarraville, Gippsland in 1855 and John Henry was born in Melbourne in April 1857. In my notes, I speculated this might have been in Melbourne's Canvas Town but it seemed to have been closed down by then.

2. "In 1880 William Froggart Walker, who was the Commissioner for Customs in Melbourne, went into partnership with Wischer and it was after Walker that Walkerville was named."
The above information will be relevant to Robert Rowley's letter of about the same time regarding the Rye Pier being neglected while money had been allocated by the minister of customs and trade to a limeburners' pier at Canterbury for his own benefit. The letter will appear in the RYE PIER entry, as it, as well as the notification of John Campbell's successful tender for the construction of the Rye Pier in December 1866 prove that it was not built in 1860 as claimed.

It is stated in LIME LAND LEISURE that the proprietors of this Canvas Town were Walker and Youll. It was situated on the corner of Tasman Avenue and Canterbury Jetty Rd. The Kiln would have been on the west corner where a timber wall braces the base of a hill which would allowed top loading and bottom extraction as illustrated by the replica lime kiln at White Hill near Rye. Canvas Town itself is shown on the east corner; this would be where the quarriers, knappers, burners and carriers lived. Knappers broke the limestone into small pieces so it would be more efficiently burned.
The lime was carried north along what became Canterbury Jetty Rd to the sandbanks where it was loaded onto propped up lime craft which arrived and departed at high tide. A pier would make the loading much easier. No doubt Owen Cain of Tyrone would have appreciated the limeburners' pier being built at the north west corner of Tyrone!

CRIPPS, William.
Patti Newton's ancestor.
From Warner Bros.

Feb 27, 2017, 9:50 AM
to me
Hi Ray,
I’m Helen who has been emailing you from Family Tree circles. As you can see by my email, I’m a researcher from the program ‘Who Do You Think You Are’. I’m just doing some initial research for a possible story link and William Cripps comes up.
I’d love to see the rates record, and any other document you may have found. I’m based in Sydney so popping into the SLV isn’t quite so easy.
I would also appreciate it if you keep it quiet that we’re looking into the area!
Thanks again for your help,
(Ancestry charges so Dromana Historical Society received $100 from Warner Bros. when I suggested a donation might be fitting.)

CRISPO Sidney Smith. See also Blairgowrie.
I had written quite some detail about Sidney's ideas and the Victorian Coastal Survey but lost this because I clicked outside the edit box. I just now did an unsuccessful google search for the Victorian Coastal Survey because I wasn't sure about the time it was established and ended but my luck changed when I added Sidney Smith Crispo. The Erbs family which could be described as newbies has already made a significant contribution to the Rye Historical Society.

As well as publishing all of Sidney's letters to newspaper and extensive information about the Victorian coastal survey (which a google search failed to reveal as I mentioned above), this lengthy work has maps showing Crispo's grants and his boat jetty mentioned in the BLAIRGOWRIE entry.

I still tended to make wild assumptions when I wrote my journal in 2011, about a year after starting my Peninsula research. Sidney Smith Crispo did not arrive on the same survey ship as Edward Williams.

DE GARIS C.J. Developer of the Heart of Rosebud Estate.

There were three cutting hearing south, uphill from Boundary Rd, Dromana to the heights of Arthurs Seat, Bryan's cutting starting near Hillview Quarry Rd, Simon's cutting probably starting at Hillview Community Reserve opposite the present Boundary Rd shops and Eaton's cutting at Melway 160 E.10. The first two were created by the person after whom they were named: Bryan, alias Peter Watson was a woodgetter and travelled through the Dromana town common to and from the Arthurs Seat summit while Henry Bernard Simon bought from the Crown two parcels of land in Melway 160 A 9,10 and 171J10 to 190 A1 and created a track travelling from one to the other. Eaton's cutting was so named because it ended at Watson Eaton's 150 acre selection, c/a 7B of section 3, Kangerong, fronting Arthurs Seat Rd and roughly indicated by Melway 190 C-E 1.

The Kangerong parish map shows two tracks, the one not far west of Eatons Cutting Rd as shown on Melway having many zig-zags and ending at the north boundary of Eaton's 150 acre selection. This would not have been suitable as a route between the Red Hill area and Dromana for two reasons. If continued to Arthurs Seat Rd it would have divided the 150 acres into parcels of roughly 100 and 50 acres making the selection far less useful and secondly, the twists and turns would have hampered logging drays and perhaps been exceedingly dangerous for carriages. The shire had obviously decided to construct the road as shown on Melway so it would avoid as many bends as possible and end at the eastern boundary of Watson's selection.
That would mean buying 2916 x 20 links of the selection or 29.16 x 1 chains (almost 3 acres plus curves in Melway 190 E1 and E2 with the inside of each curve, which I estimate as a further 10 acres) being hacked off the selection and requiring compensation. The players in this drama were Rebecca Griffiths, Watson Eaton's executrix, and Cr John Calvin Griffith, her son.

From Mrs. R. Griffith, re arrears due for purchase of land required for road deviation purposes at Eaton's cutting. This letter was read at last meeting, and the secretary who was requested to look over the books, read an extract from the minutes of the council under date, 2th October 1890, from which it appeared that it was agreed to accept the offer of the late Mr. Eaton, which was that if not more than 5 acres be taken £10 would be accepted as full payment--on reference to a minute under date, October 1887, it was found that £16 13s 7d had been paid to Mrs.Griffith, and that 6 acres 2 roods 16 perches had been taken. Cr. Griffith said Mrs. Griffith had been paid for 5 acres at the rate of £3 per acre, leaving a balance unplaced for 1 acre 2 roods 16 perches. The President-5 acres had been offered for £10 ; therefore (for) the 1 acre 2 roods 16 perches, £5 13s 7d had been paid which was more than £9 per acre. Cr. Griffith, the late Mr.Eaton may have agreed to accept £10 for the 5 acres, but Mrs Griffith had been no party of this offer. The delay was very vexatious. It was decided to again postpone the matter, the secretary in the meantime to ascertain if there were any documents in existence in which the offer was made. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 7-12-1893.)

Abraham Griffith from Philadelphia and Watson Eaton were reputed to have come from the same part of America together but Griffith researchers have found no evidence of this or of Abraham being the captain of a whaler. Check Abraham's biography in Victoria and Its Metropolis. Colin McLear claimed on page 35 of A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA that Alexander Sutherland had reported (in Victoria and Its Metropolis) that Abraham had arrived in 1854.It's actually Jonah Griffith's biography on P.394 which I did not transcribe. DO IT!!!
Watson Eaton's brother Benjamin Franklin Eaton was supposed to have farmed on Jamieson's Special Survey with Watson and Abraham and his wife Rebecca for some time but IT IS POSSIBLE that Benjamin and Watson Eaton had gone to the diggings and first met Abraham and his wife there. There is no record of Benjamin Frankin Eaton being near Dromana until about 1890; he was probably at the diggings for over three decades being very prominent at Creswick as a race owner and providing the town's water supply.

LOVIE, John.
A surname not easy to forget. Grantee of much of the land that comprised the Tootgarook swamp, as can be seen on the Wannaeue parish map*.
*The link provided by Janilye in a comment under my journal no longer works so use this one.

At the time I wrote the journal in 2015, I was not aware of Victorian BDM. The birth records of the children of John and Susan give an indication of where they might have been living, depending on the availability of registrars and medical help if needed.
1863 Collingwood; 1865, 1866 Ballarat; 1867, 1868 Snapper Point;
1870, 1872 Tootgarook ; 1875, 1877, 1879, 1881, 1884, 1885, 1887 Collingwood.

MANNERS SUTTON. See Blairgowrie.

MANTON'S CREEK RUN. This was the eastern portion of the parish of Flinders, the western part being John and Edward Barker's Cape Schanck run. The only information gleaned from local histories was that Manton was only in that area when his other properties were affected by drought. A newspaper account* of a huge battle between Goulburn and Yarra Yarra aborigines revealed that Manton actually had a given name, Charles*.
A pitched battle between the Upper
and Lower Goulburn blacks on the one side, and
the Yarra Yarra and Barrabool blacks on the
other, was fought on Thursday last, in
Mr. Ryrie's suburban allotment on the outskirts
of Collingwood. The fight continued, without
intermission for several hours, and several of the
combatants were wounded, four severely, without
any attempt being made on the part of the autho-
rities to put a stop to the affray. Ultimately a
reconciliation was effected through the interven-
tion of the townsfolk and all traces of hostilities
were drowned in a jollification terminating after
nightfall in a corroboree. The wounded war-
riors were removed to the hospital, where they
still remain in considerable danger. The cause of
the quarrel, we understand, was the atrocious
murder of a young Goulburn black, by some of
the Yarra Yarra tribe, at Mr. Charles Manton's
station, near Western Port*
, some months since.
(P.3, The Melbourne Weekly Courier, 10-2-1844.

*This could have meant the Manton's Creek run or another station near Tooradin mentioned in the Manton family article.

His given name enabled me to find this Port Phillip Pioneers article about the Manton family. (Paste this into your search bar to get the article.)

The Boonwurrung word for some feature of Mantons Creek was Merimendiewokewoke. Henry Tuck must have told his children about this word some time after he settled on the run in 1846 but such a long word must have been difficult to recall decades later and led to this mistake in the Flinders Wikipedia article.
"Flinders was once believed to have previously been known as Mendi-Moke, but this has subsequently been denied.[3]"
(3. Flinders, Victoria, Australia, was never called Mendi-Moke familytreecircles Retrieved 30 January 2021.)

MURRAY ANDERSON RD, ROSEBUD. This was an early subdivisional road in crown allotment 18 Wannaeue between Adams Avenue and Jetty Rd. This 152 acre block had been subdivided by Charles Blakey circa 1871 when Jack Jones bought the 2 acre lot 86; he built a tiny store on the Jetty Rd corner in 1884-5. The remaining land became a 150 acre farm bought from the Blakey executors in 1874 by Robert White who died in 1881 and ownership passed to his son, Blooming Bob White. There is later detail of the farm's ownership in the HENRY POTTON'S FARM chapter of Peter Wilson's ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD. De Garis, a developer, created the HEART OF ROSEBUD ESTATE and under a plan of the estate, Peter Wilson wondered who Murray Anderson was. I had no luck in solving the puzzle circa 2010 but when one of our members asked about the origin of the road's name, I correctly assumed that De Garis and Mildura might lead to the answer. Robert Murray Anderson was born near the mouth of the Murray and became a prominent river boat captain and Mildura pioneer. Have fun scrolling down to my post on this page where the documentation of my greatest discovery is provided, but not this article which outlines the tumultuous career of De Garis, ending in suicide.
EXTRACT. Captain Robert Murray Anderson, the Mildura Scot, and his wlfe, who had already lent the Mildura laddie a few thousands, lent him more.

NAXOS. Sidney Smith Crispo initially gave this strange name to his grant "Eastbourne" (crown allotments 52 and 44 Wannaeue) at Rosebud West. The farm fronted Eastbourne Rd from a line indicated by the northern part of the east boundary of Village Glen west to Elizabeth Avenue, extending south to Hiscock Rd (a road which was reserved from Jetty Rd to Truemans Rd through the Tootgarook swamp and sensibly never constructed.) The Crispos originated in Venice and comprised a dynasty which ruled over a group of islands near Greece which the Venetians had colonised.

RYE PIER. It has been often claimed that John Campbell built the first pier at Rye in 1860 but the announcement of his successful tender in December 1866 and Robert Rowley's letter in 1887 stating that the pier had been built 20 years before prove conclusively that John finished his contact in 1867.

Article - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957)Wednesday 5 December 1866 - Page 6
... ; constructing jetty at Rye, £550, John Campbell

P. 15, THE AGE, 25-6-1867.
Sir,— Forty-five years ago I helped to ship
lime from Tootgarook, near Rye, and also
wattle bark; and since then vast quantities of
lime, wood and bark have been shipped; and this
has continued to the present day. Over 20 years
since application was made to the Government
for a jetty, and after some delay it was com
menced, and from time to time added to ; but
now, after 20 years, the jetty remains unfi-
nished, so that the Sorrento steamers object to
call on account of the danger of making fast
in its unfinished state. Considering the vast
benefit the inhabitants of Melbourne have
derived from the lime shipped at Rye, the lime-
burners consider they have been most unfairly
treated in time past, and it has been like draw-
ing blood out of a stone to get the Govern-
ment to carry on this important work.
A contract is now being carried out,
but it will not complete the jetty. When the
Commissioner of Trade and Customs was down
here he would not promise to have it com-
pleted, and the poverty of funds is pleaded for
its non-completion, and yet he has proposed a
jetty at Canterbury, where he ships lime. The
Rye people consider they have been shamefully
treated, and hold that before Canterbury jetty
is commenced Rye jetty should be finished.
Should the poverty of the Government
be so great that this work cannot at once be
completed, it is proposed by a gentleman to
solicit subscriptions from the other Australian
colonies towards this work, and he intends
applying to the various Governments. I think
it would be as well not to make the colony the
laughing stock of the other colonies, and there-
fore trust you will use your powerful interest to
get a vote for Rye jetty.— Yours. &c..
Rye, 18th Jun. R. ROWLEY.

SIMON'S CUTTING. This was the middle one of the three cuttings which climbed southwards from Boundary Rd, Dromana, namely, from the west: Bryan's, Simon's and Eaton's. I have not seen any reference to where it was but it stands to reason that it would have left Boundary Rd opposite the present Boundary Rd shops, in the Hillview Community Reserve. Colin McLear referred to the man who created the cutting as Simon the Belgian but some called him a Frenchman. Rate records reveal that he was Henry Bernard Simon and trove reveals that he was indeed a Belgian.

H.B.Simon bought c/a's 3A and 3B of section 3 Kangerong from the crown,a total of about 68 acres which extended halfway to the LINE OF Pindara Rd continued as the southern boundary of Robert Caldwell's Dromana Hill (the quarry boundary in Melway 158JK 12) to the blue line in Melway190 A1, The 82 acres purchased by George McLear, c/a 3, section 3 Kangerong, continued south to the line described.

Between the aforesaid line and Arthurs Seat Rd which bends to the south east from the south west corner of the quarry at 159 J 12 were crown allotments 6A, 6 and 6B of section 3 Kangerong, all granted to H.B.Simon, which extended east to a point opposite the present Main Creek Rd corner where the east boundary of Arthurs Seat Park is shown in Melway A 1 and part A 2.

Seaforth Vineyard occupies part of c/a 6 whose west boundary at 190 A1 adjoins a path marked OT dam 1 km. The dam is at 160 B 12. I once walked from the car park to the Arthurs Seat summit (via the OT dam which came as a great surprise) and I reckon that I was walking in the footsteps of Henry Bernard Simon.

The Belgian's homestead, 230 yards (210 metres or ten and a half chains) from Boundary Rd would have been where the word RESERVE is written in Hillview Community Reserve and the walking path at the top of 160 A 10 might have been the start of Simon's Cutting.
VENICE PARK OR VENUS PARK. See the first entry under WILSON.


WELLS. Henry Cadby Wells was a Frankston pioneer but was living in the Sorrento area by 1841 when his daughter was born, having arrived to burn lime with Robert Rowley. When the 1843 depression stopped demand for lime he returned to Melbourne and resumed his bootmaking trade that provided the means to buy a boat circa 1849 and partner Robert Robert Rowley in a new venture, crayfishing, which was lucrative but short-lived when the boat came down on its anchor in Westernport due to tidal variation and was holed. Henry also leased Thomas Smith's "Nyora" (now the Ranelagh Estate) for a few years from 1859. Steve Johnson, a Wells Kelly descendant, contacted itellya on 15-12-2011, informing me that Decimus and Richard Wells were born at "Nyora" in 1861 and 1864 and later referred me to:

The Irish White family was among the earliest pioneers of the Sorrento area. Pam Colvin is a descendant of this family. Pam was convinced that Robert White, renting a hut from the Cairns brothers at Boneo and grantee of c/a 11, Rosebud Fishing Village, was a person with that name in her family tree, and so was I until a family tree circles member called toolaroo contacted itellya. He was a descendant of the Scottish White family. I put them in touch with each other to sort this out.
Most of these entries in Don Jordan's index for LIME LAND LEISURE would be relevant.
White brothers (lime burners) 54, 57, 149
kilns and huts on McDonald’s Nepean map xvi
White, George (brother of Richard and Robert), as
pastoral pioneer and lime burner 157
White George (carrier)
buys William’s butcher shop for residence 158*
marries Nellie Dark 115
works as carrier at Butchers Hill 115
White, Georgiana (daughter of Richard), marries
Mr Meaden 157
White, Gregor W., as deputy shire secretary (1976)
White, Richard (brother of George and Robert)
as lime burner and supplier 157
marries Eliza Taylor 157
White, Robert (brother of George and Richard)
as pastoral pioneer and lime burner 157
boundaries of pastoral run (1848) 70
*Don Jordan has done an extraordinary job sorting out Ned Williams' story because it was hidden in the WHITE story on page 158; I was wondering whom Edward White was!
William, Edward (lime burner and contractor)
builds “Yardee” and “Eastbourne” 158
marries and has family 157
opens butcher shop at Sorrento 43
sinks wells in Queensland with others 158
William, Edward Jnr (butcher at Sorrento) 158

William, Edward (lime burner and contractor)
builds “Yardee” and “Eastbourne” 158
marries and has family 157
opens butcher shop at Sorrento 43
sinks wells in Queensland with others 158
William, Edward Jnr (butcher at Sorrento) 158

James and Laurence White, Balnarring.

Robert White (1804-1881), a shoemaker, son of Henry White and Margaret nee Cairns, from Menstrie in Scotland, and his youngest children Janet, born 1839, Ann, born 1842, and Blooming Bob White, born 1849, came to Victoria aboard the JOHN LINN, leaving Liverpool on 28-2-1859 and arriving at Melbourne on 25-6-1859. Ann married Henry Bucher and Janet who married Charles James was referred to by Isobel Moresby as Granny James.

Whites Rd at Melway 171 G-K 4 was named after Janet White's son Bullocky Bob White, who was raised as Robert James and under that name was granted c/a 27 A1 of 160 acres 1 rood and 39 perches at Melway 190A-C 7,8 on 6-4-1897. He married Mary Hannah Roberts who was unrelated to Rosebud's early postmaster, John Roberts, rather Christopher Roberts an early grantee near Roberts Rd at Melway 255 B1.

Through the Hillis connection Robert White's offspring were related to many Red Hill pioneering families which is why Stephen Lynch (toolaroo) named his book PENINSULA PIONEERS.
I wrote this journal in 2013, just after the identity of Blooming Bob White had been confirmed.

There were many pioneers with this surname near Mornington and Arthurs Seat. There were probably more near Sorrento and Portsea but I have not extensively researched that area.
1. I believe that Wilson Rd, Mornington is named after Professor W. P. Wilson and that Venice Park should actually be Venus Park. His feat would have passed into the area's folklore by word of mouth and the park was probably not named until the Wolfdene estate was subdivided by which time the enthusiastic astronomer had been forgotten.

And five more.


There is no proof that Dr Bartley's mother, Elizabeth nee Revell was related to Harold Revell who retired to Blairgowrie (not far from Rosebud), but that would be a possibility to explore. Links have not been formatted, as there are so many of them, but articles can be accessed by pasting them into your search bar.

I'd assumed that DOON was the name of a boat when I saw this caption under a photo on page 317 of Suzanne Spunner's LIME IN THE BLOOD: "317. Rosebud foreshore where "Doon" was."
Doon was a house near the Rosebud foreshore formerly owned by a doctor.
BARTLEY Joseph Francis, Death
mother: Elizabeth nee REVELL, father: BARTLEY John
places of birth and death: BENDIGO, MALVERN
89, 1953, 13710/1953

Although his birth and death occurred in Victoria, an application for probate of his will in 1954 indicates that he had been living at 54 Park Terrace, Parkside Adelaide, possibly his son Jack's address, shortly before his death.

Dr Bartley had come to Rosebud some time before the start of 1928* when his daughter Mollie, formerly of Broken Hill, now staying with her father at Doon, Rosebud, was off to the Malay states.
*He was living at Rosebud at least a year earlier.

Why would Dr Bartley have chosen the Peninsula for his retirement? Perhaps for the same reason as Harold Revell who might have been related to his mother.
(Source: Steve Watson, who is not related to the pioneering fishermen.)
This street is named after Harold Revell, who moved to the area in his retirement in 1948. When he was a young man, Harold lived in Poowong and was delivering mail on horseback for his parents who were running the post office there in 1903. Later the family moved to Port Fairy where his mother was the Mayor and Harold worked, until his retirement, as an accountant. The Watson family lived in the area and supplied Harold’s daughter, Ilo Beth, with a husband and Steve was their child. Upon his retirement, Harold moved to Northcote where he served for some years as President of the V.F.A. club, Northcote, at whose ground the champion aboriginal footballer, Doug Nicholls, was the secretary and administrator; he was later knighted and became Governor of South Australia.
Steve Watson recalls rabbiting along St Johns Wood Rd during his holidays on Harold’s property. Harold bought a 1948 M.G. saloon at about the time he settled in Blairgowrie. Its registration number was PF1948 and Harold used to say that PF stood for Port Fairy. He had a mongrel dog called Tiger that would move into the driver’s seat as soon as Harold got out of the car. He was a regular at the Rye and Koonya hotels and Dorothy Houghton, who ran the latter, claimed that the dog used to drive him home.

Dr. J. F. Bartley, of Rosebud, who died in a Melbourne private hospital last night, aged 89, was chief medical officer at Broken Hill for many years and was well known to members of the 1st AIF as medical officer on transports between Australia and Egypt.
A keen turf patron. Dr.Bartley was several times president of Broken Hill Jockey Club, and raced horses successfully also in Adelaide and Melbourne.
He was a member of Melbourne Cricket Club since 1890.
After Requiem Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral at 10 a.m. tomorrow, he will be burled In Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton.
Dr. Bartley is survived by his wife, a son. Mr Jack Bartley. of Adelaide, and a daughter. Mrs C. A. Ryan, of Molo, Kenya.
(P.5, The Herald, 3-12-1953.)

OBITUARY OF THE DOCTOR'S MOTHER. She and her husband were early teachers.
How had I never absorbed the fact that Dr.Bartley and his mother in law had presented a flag to Rosebud State School in 1915? Molly, the doctor's only daughter, had danced a Highland Fling at the Patriotic Concert at about the same time.


FITZGERALD Eleanor Mary, Birth
mother: Margaret nee JEVERS (ievers), father: Edmund Puis (pius)
place of birth: CARL, 1876, 21484/1876

The names of the winners are: Terry Ryan, "Doon." Rosebud, who recently arrived in Australia from Kenya Colony, East Africa (home of lions);


Extract, Mrs. Ryan has brought her sons, Thaddeus and Terence, to leave them at a boarding school in Melbourne..
Kind Kenya Hostess.

Page 318, LIME IN THE BLOOD, Suzanne Spunner.
As a child during the 1950's Ian ( Ian Gray, the author's husband) spent his summer holidays at Rosebud staying in his grandfather's house on the foreshore close to the jetty. The house, the former doctor's residence, was of dark oiled weatherboard, shrouded in even darker Cypress trees, and appropriately , Ian thought, called 'Doon'.

And here comes a possible connection between the SPUNNER and BARTLEY stories. Suzanne and Ian's son is a DOCTOR at Geelong and told me at the LIME IN THE BLOOD book launch today that one of his colleagues is DR BARTLEY. Another person at the launch, who is going to contact me, has some Bartley information written by a Catholic priest living in New South Wales; all of Dr Bartley's brothers were Catholic priests-Rev. J. C. Bartley, O.F.M. (Sydney), the. Rev. P. S. Bartley, S.M.(New Zealand), the Rev. Gerald
Bartley (New South Wales) as in the doctor's mother's obituary above- and Gerald would very likely be the author of that information.



The Cape Schanck run was cut in three;
The western part being called Burrabong
After the creek in Fingal flowing south
Into Bushrangers Bay, just west of Main Creek's mouth.
Robert Anderson had managed the run for Barker
Where the waves broke with a noise like thunder
On the cliffs along the cape.
Such humble employment he's soon escape
And build Barragunda
Overlooking Bass Strait water,
Having married his new boss's daughter.

I remember an article about a son of Robert Anderson enlisting straight from Geelong Grammar /College but I can't find it.
Godfrey, son of Robert and Edith Mary, nee Howitt was born on 24-1-1869 at 198 Collins street east* but the birth was obviously registered at South Melbourne.
His full name was Godfrey Howitt Anderson and he married Margaret Maude Howitt (youngest daughter of Alfred W.
Howitt, Heanor, East Malvern) on 15-11-1898 but died aged only 33 on 18-5-1902 at "Eastwood", Bairnsdale.
(Edith, their first daughter was born in 1867, Dromana given as the place of birth. On 20-3-1897 she married Stephen P. Thompson , lawyer of Beechworth).
Robert Gray Anderson, the second son was born at Caulfield in 1873. He was married to Edith Margaret Tuthill on 4-5-1904.
Another son was born at Domain Rd, Sth Yarra on 21-1-1875 according to a birth notice but no name was provided.
Ethel Rose, their third daughter, was born in 1877 and on 3-3-1906 married William Egerton Bailey who'd grown up in Ballarat.
Frank Young Anderson was born in 1878. SEE END.

ANDERSON—KING.—On the 12th inst., by the Rev. Mr.
Murdock, West Melbourne, Robert Anderson, of
Barragunda, Cape Schanck, to Isabel Newton King,
daughter of Henry Newton King, Loma Loma,
Fiji. (P.1, Argus, 26-3-1887.)
A "Robert Anderson, Cape Schanck" trove search had failed to find his death notice in 1923 because Cape was digitised as {ape (now corrected), but the death notice of a daughter of the second marriage was found.
ANDERSON.—On the 19th September at Toorak Court, Robert Anderson, late of Barragunda, Cape Schanck, aged 88. (Private interment at Flinders.)
OXLADE.—On the 16th March, Isobel Newton, the dearly loved daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Robert Anderson, late of Cape Schanck.
She was born in 1890, the birth (reg. no. 18065 / 1890) being registered at Tootgarook (Rye). Her first given name was recorded as Isabel, the same as her mother's, but as Isobel on her marriage record.
ANDERSON Isobel Newton, Marriage, OXLADE, Benj Harry
1914, 11027/1914

The wedding report mentions the bride's brother and sister (Mrs W.E.Bailey) but they were probably children of the first marriage, Frank certainly was. The sister was Ethel Rose, born 1877 as above.

Frank Young Anderson was born in 1878.
ANDERSON Frank Young, Birth
mother: Edith Mary nee HOWET(Howitt)
father: Robert
place of birth registration):TO OT(Rye)
1878, 19641/1878


This journal is written out of respect to the original inhabitants of the area, the Boon Wurrung, and those such as Carolyn Briggs and Auntie Faye who are striving to reconstruct the Boon Wurrung language.

Today I was looking online for a parish of Flinders map and as happened several years ago did not find one, (the reason I had to go to the P.R.O.V. to obtain my paper map.) Instead I found several business websites and articles about Flinders, claiming that Flinders was originally called MENDI-MOKE. I turned to Wikipedia as they demand citations for information provided. The article contained the same claim (almost certainly the source for every other one) but no source was named. I tried a Trove search for mendi-moke and found not one result in any category.

There are plenty of creeks near Flinders, as shown by my paper map, but the only one whose name gives any credence to mendi-moke (or a variation) is Manton's Creek which discharges at Melway 262 G 2, about a mile north of Flinders Township, its western tributaries being named by Melway as Cotton Tree and Musk Creeks. On my paper map the tributaries are unnamed and the creek originating at the top of Melway190 E10 and named Mantons Creek south of Shands Rd (255F1) is named Mantons or MERRIMENDIEWOKEWOKE Creek.

All the painstaking work that people such as Auntie Faye and Carolyne are doing to revive the Boon Wurrung language will be for nought if two versions of the language are allowed to develop and nonsense such as YAWA= SWIM and FLINDERS WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED MENDI-MOKE become accepted as fact.

It is possible that the Flinders area was described by the Boon Wurrung as MERRIMENDIEWOKEWOKE. It will be wonderful if we eventually find its meaning.



Something strange had happened to TROVE, the main source for my research. I could only read articles one line at a time, needing to scroll down to the next line each time, and I could not correct the digitisation (about Langwarrin, John Cain's death in 1920 etc.) Such frustration had brought me to the conclusion that I was wasting my time. However, Eric Rundle (of Bulla and Balnarring) had been a loose end since I wrote my SHIRE OF FLINDERS journal, and I decided to have one last try before giving up my quest of 32 years to acknowledge our pioneers. It was not until I found a photo, with caption, of Eric Rundle (of "Glenara", Bulla) and Keith Campbell of "Willowbank" (north of Kenny St, Westmeadows, now the Alanbrae Estate), and could not view the photo and caption at the same time that I noticed that my mischievous cursor (completely without my permission) had changed the zoom in my search bar to 170%!

RUNDLE Herbt Eric, Birth
mother: Helena Jeans nee ANDERSON, father: Herbt Booth
place of birth:BRUNSWICK, 1916, 27239/1916

RUNDLE, Herbert Eric, Death
mother: Helena Jeana nee ANDERSON
father: RUNDLE Herbert Booth
places of birth and death: Melbourne, Parkville
66, 1983, 20825/1983

No Victorian BDM marriage record has been found.

Eric Raymond Rundle apparently came to Victoria from New South Wales and died interstate, as there is no Victorian BDM record of his birth, marriage or death. This Eric was living in Melbourne's eastern suburbs by 1936 when Herbert Eric Rundle made his name as a cyclist, winning the Colac road race while a resident of Essendon. Herb became a lawyer and later devised a constitution for the peak Australian cycling body at about the same time that Eric Raymond Rundle was settling at Balnarring and becoming a member of the Country Party for which he unsuccessfully contested the seat of Mornington.

It was in D.F.Cameron-Kennedy's THE OAKLAND HUNT, written in 1988 (the year I became a local historian) to celebrate the club's centenary, that I discovered that Eric (Herbert Eric) had become the Master but passed away before the history was written. (I visited his widow at Glenara as part of my research.)

Some Documentation of the above.

RUNDLE Eric Raymond 1946-54.
POSTSCRIPT 9-4-2020. Eric Raymond Rundle was not the owner of Glenara, although it seemed possible when I wrote the journal, because the Rundle family would not have occupied Glenara until after the majority of the property had been purchased for the jetport circa 1960 and as indicated by the acquisitions map (which should now be in the Hume Global Learning Centre library at Broadmeadows), not from the Rundles. If I remember correctly, A.Lord* had owned Glenara at that time.
POSTSCRIPT,16-11-2020. My memory was correct. See the first item in this article.

However if I had not theorised that Cr. Rundle had moved to Tullamarine, I would not now be adding this Postscript. Therefore I will not delete the speculation because theories are necessary to get anywhere in an investigation.

The owner of Glenara was Herbert Eric Rundle (not Rundie as in this obituary,found miraculously in a Google search for Eric Rundle, Glenara, despite the spelling mistake.

Herbert Eric Rundie
The Friends of the La Trobe Library note with great regret the death on 16 June, 1983, of Herbert Eric Rundie, who had served continuously as their honorary solicitor since the Friends' formation in 1966. He had drawn up the original constitution of the Friends and from time to time provided advice on its revision. He also generously and promptly helped the Committee in all of its legal problems. Eric Rundie was also the Honorary Legal Officer of the Royal Historical Society of Victoria and had served on its Council since 1962. One of his particular interests was the preservation of legal records.
Mr. Rundie was the owner of “Glenara” estate at Bulla, a district which owes much to his historical researches. But besides his professional and scholarly interests, he was a dashing and successful horseman. In the equestrian field his many offices included the Vice-Presidency of the Equestrian Federation of Australia and the Mastership of the Oak-lands Hunt Club. It was while leading the field that he suffered the injuries which led to his death.
The Friends extend their sympathy to Mr. Rundle's family and records with gratitude his many years of service.
THE LATROBE JOURNAL, No 32 December 1983

Eric Rundle owned "Glenara" of about 1030 acres at Melway 177 C-H 10-12 roughly. He was the Master of Hounds of the Oakland Hunt and died as a result of falling from a horse. His widow retained the property for about half a century after his death. See THE OAKLANDS HUNT by D.F.Cameron-Kennedy.

HUNTING.Oaklands Hounds.Among those riding were J Attwood, K Campbell, J Gallagher,D.Ryan,F Chapman M Macrae, L. Dowling, H.H.Daniel jun., G. Hutt, and Master E. Rundle. (P.12, Argus, 14-7-1932.) The Attwoods owned Dundonald at Melway 5 H1 but sold the southern 200 acres for the remount which is now Victoria Police property.Keith Campbell owned Willowbank, Melway 6 A5, which became the Alanbrae Estate on which I managed to get streets named after pioneers:Lavars, McKay, Chadwick, Johnson, Corrigan, Mitchell, Gilmore and a farm, "Chandos" between Bamford Ave and the creek. McRae would have been a descendant of Farquhar who organised the first run in 1888 and was probably in St Albans. The Daniel family of Narbonne (177 K4)was heavily involved in the hunt for ages and two of the men became Bulla Shire Secretaries. Gil Hutt also died prematurely as the result of a riding accident.

RUNDLE.-On tho 24th April 1934 at Jessie Mcpherson Community Hospital to Mr and Mrs Eric R Rundle-a daughter.

(P.1, Argus, 26-9-1934.) There is no proof yet of a link between the Eric of Glenara and Eric Raymond of Milton Park but for a long time there was no proof that Percy Hurren, storekeeper and postmaster at Moorooduc in 1950 was the farmer on Dalkeith at Tullamarine who attended his first Tullamarine Progress Association meeting in 1951.

MUTTON AND LAMB SUPPLIES ADEQUATE. LAMBS-THIS SEASON : E R Rundle Merricks 19/ (P.2, Argus, 20-8-1941.)
Hector Waldron's parents came to Balnarring in 1925 and bought "Milton Park" on the corner of Warawee Rd and Stanleys Rd.Many years later, Hector's father sold most of Milton Park to Mr Dane who grazed stud sheep on it and still later he sold the rest, containing the house and outbuildings, to Mr Eric* Rundle.
*Eric Raymond

LEGGATT, William Watt, Herbert st. Mornington, barrister (Lib).
MASLEN, Bertram James. Somerville,orchardist (Lab).
RUNDLE, Eric Raymond, Balnarring,farmer (CP).
Mr Kirton (CP) did not seek re-election.
(P.7, Argus, 25-10-1947, 148 STATE ELECTION CANDIDATES.)

Photos of Eric, Keith Campbell and Harry Daniel(1st), and Keith and Eric (2nd), at "Sherwood", (Melway 178 C6) in 1954.

N.B. As mentioned in my journal, both Eric and Gill Hutt died after falls from horses. The land near Tullamarine becomes rock-hard in the summer when falls, inevitable in hunting, would most likely result in death so other forms of recreation were enjoyed in the hotter months. Melbourne City councillor, Edward Campbell, bought Pier Cottage (c/a's 11 and 12, Rosebud, now occupied by the Banksia Point cafe/ apartment complex) and his family spent the summers there. The cottage was destroyed by fire* and replaced by the double storey dwelling which was demolished to make room for the complex.
The family spent much time fishing in the Peatey boat and there is a photo of Edward, young Keith etc. in the late Rosalind Peatey's PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS. Edward's daughter, Nancy, taught many children to swim near the Rosebud Jetty.

Eric was born at Brunswick and was fortunate that Alexander Sutherland had founded Carlton College not far away. Sutherland had been the owner of Heronswood at Dromana in between Professor Hearn and Judge Higgins. He suggested Piawola as the name for the mansion that Nelson Rudduck built just east of the Dromana Methodist Church. His VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS:PAST AND PRESENT (1888) provides details about many of Victoria's pioneers. In 1904, the prize for Bookkeeping, Writing, and Dictation was won by Eric Rundle.
The HEALING was a popular brand of bicycle and sponsored the Healing Peninsula tour. The amended route for the race in 1935 may have been the course over which Eric raced in 1937.
The complete route will now be from Oakleigh to Dandenong. Frankston, Mornington, Somerville, Cranbourne, Tooradin,
Koo-wee-rup. Pakenham and returning on the Prince's Highway to the starting point.
Eric's fall near the end of the Healing tour in 1937 was by no meaning his last (which was from a hunter) or his first. It probably occurred between Dandenong and Oakleigh.
A few miles from the finish, Eric Rundle, who won the Colac to Melbourne race last year, was involved in a nasty smash. After being treated for abrasions to face and arms he was allowed to go home.

Colac Race Winner Hit By Car
Eric Rundle, 19-year-old law clerk, who won the 92-mile Colac-Melbourne on Saturday, was knocked from his bicycle by a motor-car today while he was riding to work. He was not seriously hurt.
Rundle was riding near the Haymarket* with Eddie Waterford (holder of the Adelaide- Melbourne cycling record) at the time of the collision. He sustained only minor abrasions, and although his machine was slightly damaged he was able to ride on to his office.
(P.1, The Herald, 26-10-1936.)

* The haymarket, replaced by the Dental Hospital, was bounded by Flemington Rd, Royal Pde and Grattan St (Melway 2B, B8.) It was a miracle to get around the roundabout without a major scare in the 1960's and the problem has only intensified.
'Roundabout of death' gets $100,000 to plan a safety upgrade …

One Win For Victoria
In the Australian road championships in Tasmania on Saturday, Webb won the senior title and Freeney the junior, but the greatest winner there was Victorian barrister Eric Rundle, who successfully presented to the ACAA a redrafted constitution.
Some delegates to this committee meeting were openly hostile at the projected constitution amendments and it looked as though Rundle wouldn't be permitted to table his draft.
However, after the initial tension. Rundle got his way, read the re-drafted constitution and eventually had all State delegates satisfied that, in this particular case, Victoria wasn't trying to "cook up" something to suit itself. Rundle's quiet, unassuming manner and obvious sincerity won the day. He was a good bike rider too, as he won the Colac in 1936. (P.16, Sporting Globe, 30-8-1950.)

The Equestrian Federation of Australia is delighted that, during the recent FEI (Federation Equestre Internationale) General Assembly in Tokyo, Michael Trenerry was appointed to the FEI's Finance Committee.
Mr Treneijy a past president of the EFA and currently its treasurer, is the first person to hold an FEI office since the late Eric Rundle was the Group VIII representative on the FEI Bureau.

He was obviously in Balnarring before 1946 when he was elected as a Flinders Shire councillor. In 1933 and 1934, his wife had given birth to two children in Melbourne's eastern suburbs but there are no Victorian BDM birth records to ascertain his wife's name.

By 1947, Cr Kirton, a Mornington Shire councillor and the sitting member for Mornington had decided to retire from parliament. He did everything in his power to help Eric to become his successor.

Cr Kirton* had been elected as a United Australia Party candidate in 1932 but retained the seat despite his defection to the Country Party in 1939. This was probably because of his personal popularity which became obvious to me a few years ago when I was helping the author of the Mornington Bowls Club centenary history with research. Eric would have been unknown to most of the electorate and another factor that may have contributed to his lack of success may have been the reduced proportion of electors making their living off the land.

*- Alfred James Kirton (14 April 1877 – 20 April 1960) was an Australian politician.
He was born in Ballarat to bookmaker Emanuel Kirton and Jane Milburn. He left school at the age of twelve to work for a draper, and from the age of fifteen worked in a Melbourne warehouse. Around 1901 he married Edith Augusta Pope, with whom he had two daughters; he would remarry in 1911, to Alice Emily Rouvray, with whom he had a further three children. He ran a bakery in Brunswick from 1913 until 1921, when he retired to Mornington. He served on Mornington Shire Council from 1926 to 1952 and was twice president (1927–28, 1947–48). In 1932 he was elected to the Victorian Legislative Assembly as the United Australia Party member for Mornington. He defected to the Country Party in 1939, and served until his retirement in 1947. His brother Joseph also served in the Assembly. Kirton died in Mornington in 1960.[1]

William Leggatt, who convincingly defeated Eric, had moved to Mornington in 1926 and was a hero of both world wars. Eric had no hope!

This information from the above* indicates that (despite no death notice for Eric Raymond being found) the bride and groom who married in 1889** were the parents of Eric Raymond Rundle who was born in Waverley, Sydney (where the bride was a resident. It is also likely that Eric Rundle, in the 1915 photo**** of those attending a tennis day at Government House, Darwin, in 1915 to raise funds for Red Cross was Eric Raymond who would have been about 25 years old at the time. Sydney H. Rundle, a pioneer of Beechworth, was his paternal grandfather, father of Henry(the bridegroom in 1889)and brother of Charles Rundle***, chemist of Wangaratta, or maybe his son (who has appeared previously in my research, possibly in connection with the Dromana area and so long ago that I had forgotten about it.)
* Eric Raymond Rundle
Birth 1890
Waverley, Waverley Council, New South Wales, Australia
Death 1995 (aged 104–105)
Victoria, Australia
Beechworth Cemetery
Beechworth, Indigo Shire, Victoria, Australia
Memorial ID 133246682 · View Source

RUNDLE—STEVENS.—On October 10th,at St. Mary's, Waverley, by the Rev.Robert McKeown, Henry Alfred George Rundle, of Port Darwin, to Mary Edney Stevens, of Waverley,Sydney. No cards.
(P.2, The North Australian and Northern Territory Gazette, 1-11-1889.)

EXTRACTS. brother of Mr. Sydney H: Rundle, of Beechworth.
Mr. Charles Alfred Bundle was a son of the late Henry Bundle, collector of Inland Revenue,Waterford, Ireland. He was born at Kilkenny, Ireland, in the year 1836, and was educated at Totterness for the position of chemist, and came out to this colony in 1857. He remained a few months in Melbourne, afterwards taking a position as assistant to Mr. W. Witt,chemist, of Beechworth.

(His wife and his son Arthur were also qualified chemists.