Antonio Salvas at Sorrento Victoria
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Marriage Registration No.: 2558. The Number of the Marriage Register was 446. In the District of Emerald Hill in the Colony of Victoria. The parties as listed were Antonio Salves and Catharini Thompson. After Notice and Declaration duly made and published and with the written consent of 'Amilia Thompson, mother of Catharini' the marriage was by license according to the 'rites of the Church of England'. The marriage was celebrated by Rev Ross Beachcroft Dickinson, a minister. Witnesses were listed as Henry Foret and Emmie Thompson. At the time of his marriage he was 33 years old and his new bride was 16 years old. The occupation as listed on the marriage certificate was 'Mariner'.
Death Registration No.: 9790. Number 281 in the Register. Antonio Salvas (death certificate spells the surname as shown) died in the Town of Sorrento in the Shire of Flinders Kangerong in the County of Mornington, District of Point Nepean in the State of Victoria on 30th August 1907. Informant was Gordon Salvas, his son of Melbourne Road Sorrento. Cause of death - Bright's disease of the kidneys; a complaint that he had for 2 years. The medical practioner by whom death was certified was George Cuscadon and he last saw the 'deceased' on 29th July 1907. Rank or profession listed on the death certificate was 'Labourer'. The death was registered by W.H. Goss, Deputy Registrar, on 1st September 1907 in Portsea. The undertaker was Charles Harding and there was no minister listed at the burial. The witnesses listed were John Anderson and Walter Knight. The certificate states that Antonio had been a resident of Victoria for 37 years.
Buried in the Roman Catholic Section of the Sorrento Cemetery; Entry Number 68.
He sailed to Australia on a ship called the 'Dornakie' or 'Domakick' from the Port of New York (USA). He jumped ship as it came up through the heads with three other sailors; De Peana (John Grant), Moraes and De Mas (he later married Amelia Beck (Thompson)). May have been on 15 May 1874. Need to check ship passenger and crew logs. Louis George Anthony Salvas remembers visiting Mr Moraes when he was a young boy in the late 1920's. He considered him 'scary' for he was dark.
They swam ashore and settled on the Rye Peninsula.
Need to check the church records at St Mary's Sorrento to find when Louis and Godance (Gordon) were baptized and/or confirmed.
First applied to be naturalised on 29 Feb 1896. Finally took the 'Oath of Allegiance" to become a Victorian Citizen before a JP named John Cain on 1 Mar 1899. The naturalisation papers were issued and dated 20 Mar 1899; Certificate #7861 in the 'Record of NATURALIZATIONS', Book 44, Page 184. The original certificate is in the family paper book.
Work: Occupation listed on the birth certificate of Louis Antonio as a 'Quarryman'.
Mornington Standard, Saturday 24 August 1907, p.2.
SORRENTO
An old and respected resident Mr. Salvis, of Melbourne road is very ill.
Mornington Standard, Saturday 7 September 1907, p.2.
SORRENTO
An old and much respected identity Mr. A. Salvis passed away last Friday morning, Aug. 30th, at his residence, Melbourne road. His remains were buried in the local cemetery on Sunday afternoon, when a large number of' relatives and friends followed him to his last resting place. Mr. Salvis was greatly respected in the neighbourhood and has lived here a number of years. The service at the grave was performed by the Rev. Father O'Brien. Mr. Salvis has left a widow and two sons.
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SaintKidding on 2014-01-17 22:49:19Hello asalvas,
I found you journal very helpful. Firstly it strongly confirmed for me that Antonio Salvas and Antonio Albress (my Great, Great Grandfather) were not the same person. However, it was the info regarding A. Salvas's naturalisation that caught my attention.
Both Antonio's naturalisation documents are accessible at the National Archives website. Here Salvas is spelled Salves. The applications were filed only a few weeks apart on the 5th and 29th of February 1896. It looks to me as though the same person (handwriting) filled in both forms and they were signed by the respective Antonio's. Both men came from Cape Verde. Both men swore their "Oath of Memorialist" in Sorrento before John Cain J.P. Both applications include a declaration by John Cain that he has known the man for 15/20 years and that they are of good repute. Again the handwriting matches.
I have searched for further evidence of my Antonio's arrival on the "Queen of the South" and come up with nothing. Recently, however, I came across a recorded interview with Antonio's son Louis. Here he states that his father was one of about a dozen Portuguese sailors that deserted a military vessel. He say that they were helped by a man named DeFreitas who owned a pub on Bourke Street.
I looked into this and found that a man named Ascensio DeFreitas owned the Mechanics Hotel on Bourke Street. Ascensio DeFreitas was a philanthropist who was well known in his day for what was termed the "8 o'clock rush". At 8pm he would feed the poor and homeless, provided they were sober. He also bought land in Rye.
I suspect that my Antonio fibbed about arriving on the "Queen of the South". I hope to somehow find evidence of deserter from a Portuguese ship about this time. There is noticeably a lot of Portugese/Cape Verdeans on the peninsula and I wonder how so many came to be there.
Where did you hear of the story of the four men jumping ship? I'm interested in any clues. On with the puzzle?..
asalvas on 2014-01-20 05:17:00SaintKidding
Family folklore about the jumping from a ship but the names with whom he jumped are well known around Sorrento. Joaquin De Paena (his anglicised name was John Grant)became his brother-in-law (he married Emily Thompson who was my great grandmother's elder sister), Nicholas De Mas married his mother-in-law (Amelia Thompson) and Moreas was known to live in the hinterland. Don't forget that none of these people could write, so I would have thought that the assistant to John Cain (or Cain himself) would have completed all such forms - I have Antonio's and Amelia's orginals in the family papers. Antonio owned the limestone Victorian house at 871 Melbourne Road Sorrento which was built in 1885/86 for him (it is still standing opposite the Sorrento football ground - it is the house on a 5 acre block of land) and Peter Thompson (Amelia's son) also was one of the close neighbours, 875 Melbourne Road that he bought in 1905. My grandfather had 60 first cousins (all are from his mother's (Caroline Thompson) side who lived in and around Sorrento at that time. It is my understanding that Maria Albress married one of my granfather's cousins.
I cannot find any reference to the 'Domakick' but I will start to look under naval ships entering Port Phillip Bay
Enjoy - Tony
SaintKidding on 2014-01-21 04:06:04Thanks Tony for your reply,
It all comes together.
Antonio Albress's wife Maria (Bennett) remarried after his death to a man named Edward McIntyre. Their daughter, Maria, had two marriages. First, to Frank Le Brun, and then to Percival James.
The older Maria's sisters, Cecilia and Rachael, married two Thompson brothers, Louis and William. I believe that they were sons of Peter and Amelia Thompson. The families must have been close because Maria gave her children the names of her brothers-in-law as well as her sisters.
Good luck with your searches.
Kate
julieallen56 on 2015-02-11 02:24:00Hi asalvas
I am researching my family line and have been trying to find information about Joaquin De Pina who the family story goes jumped ship at Sorrento Vic Aust.
I had a copy of his marriage certificate to Emily Thompson, my great, great grandmother
I couldn't believe my luck when I simply put "jumped ship Sorrento" into Google and you came up.
The stories match and many of the names are also related to me.
Do you have a date or year that they jumped????????
I too could not find any reference to the ship 'Domakick' BUT i did find a ship the "Dominick Daly" that sailed into Port Phillip Bay in the mid 1800s.
Would love to hear from you
Julie
asalvas on 2015-02-12 04:25:04Julie
Dominick Daly was the Governor of SA in the 1860s.
Still no luck fing a sailing ship.
Cheers - Tony
MartinE7 on 2015-04-07 10:01:54Hi.
Could the ship be the Don Enrique? She was a large Pervian clipper, left New York 8 Feb 1874 and arrived in Port Phillip on 14 May. Antonio said the 15th on his naturalisation papers but the ship could have arrived at night and docked the following day.
Sydney Morning Herald, 15 May 1874.
Melbourne. Arrivals. May 14. Don Enrique, from New York.
The Argus, 16 May 1874.
A description of Don Enrique's voyage from New York.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5870160
From Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists, just 8 passengers/crew. The only one close to one of the names mentioned is Morales (Moraes) but, if they jumped ship at the Heads, their names may not be listed anyway.
http://tinyurl.com/Don-Enrique-May-1874
regards,
Martin
LynSilva on 2018-09-10 06:23:06asalvas
My name is Lyn Silva. I am also a member of Family circle, and it is there I saw and read your notes. If you are on Facebook, look me up and I can probably fix the problem that you have been searching for above. My Facebook name is
Lynette Dawn Silva-Budden.
If not my email address is crazy6girl@live.com.au
I hope I hear from you soon.
Cheers to you,
Lyn.
itellya on 2018-10-15 23:30:00asalvas, well done, finding the reason there wasn't a death record for Maria Albress!
Nobody has yet mentioned the Cape Verde Islander ancestry. There is a Facebook group* comprised mainly of descendants of such as Antonio Albress (about whom I wrote my first family tree circles journal many years ago.) It was the fact that C.N.Hollinshed said that Antonio Albas was probably Tony Salvas in LIME LAND LEISURE that made me realise that such stupid assumptions had to be corrected.
*THOMPSON FAMILY GENEALOGY