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Clifton NorthIsland. NZ

Query by janet123nz

Does anyone know if there was a special place in Clifton North Island in New Zealand where maybe unwed mothers had their babies in the later 1800's. Any help at all much appreciated.

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on 2013-11-16 01:00:30

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by ngairedith on 2013-11-16 01:13:40

hello janet,
the only Clifton I know of in the NORTH Island is on the coast, east of Hastings. Is this the correct location do you think?

by ngairedith on 2013-11-16 01:19:16

OR there was 'Clifton Station' at Cape Kidnappers (13,314 acres, originally owned by Captain GORDON)
Do you have a name you are looking for?

by janet123nz on 2013-11-16 01:19:41

I think that is correct. On my grandmother's marriage certificate it shows she was born in Clifton N I. But I have been unable to find her birth certificate

by ngairedith on 2013-11-16 01:29:57

what was her name and I will see what I can do
also give me any other names you might have concerning her please, like parents or husband etc

by janet123nz on 2013-11-16 01:30:08

Her name was Alice Jane McGinty or McGinity her mother was Sarah, who's married name was Larcombe, I understand Larcombe went to Australia and she married John McGinty in Kumara West Coast, but Alice was born before this marriage took place. There is another younger sister for Alice and I have some details for her. the McGinty marriage only lasted a couple off years and Sarah then married John MacFie. However it is the birth details of Alice that I need to complete my records. As a note of interest on the McGinty marriage certificate it shows a person by the name of Garland as a witness with an address of Clifton, I am assuming she must have been her friend.

by ngairedith on 2013-11-16 01:36:49

ok, will have a look
however, the was a County Clifton in New Plymouth as well
The New Plymouth Harbour Board consisted of six wards:
New Plymouth borough, Clifton, Stratford, Hawera, Egmont & Taranaki counties

by ngairedith on 2013-11-16 01:44:26

what year was Alice Jane born?
what was her sister's name?
did Sarah also have 2 sons to Larcombe (Benjamin Larcombe)?
cannot find her marrying him, just having the boys

Sarah married John McFie in 1880 (just trying to date events)

by ngairedith on 2013-11-16 02:02:01

so far...
* Sarah Larcombe married John McGinity 4 June 1872
- they had Mary Ann McGinity 10 Dec 1871 (6 months prior to marriage)

* Sarah McGinity married John McFie 15 July 1880
- they had Ellen Ethel McFie 26 Oct 1880

so... was Larcombe her maiden name?
could she have had Alice Jane under Larcombe and then given her the name McGinity once she married?
Trouble is, those days, they could make up any name and give birth
what is the name of the witness Garland? could she? have been related? maybe she was just the nurse

What date of birth do you have for Alice Jane

by ngairedith on 2013-11-16 02:07:04

oh, just re-read that and Garland was the witness at the Marriage :)

by janet123nz on 2013-11-16 15:18:10

Hi - Thank you for taking an interest in this case
Sarah Larcombe was originally Sarah Webb - she married Benjamin Larcombe in Bristol England on 28.11.1858 (She was born 23.4.1840). They arrived in Lyttelton NZ in 1964 with 3/4 children and I think 3 more were born in NZ. He seems to have disappeared from NZ in the late 1860's (actually remarried in Australia).
Alice Jane McGinity was born on 21 June 1870 (according to a family bible I have,Sarah's marriage to John McGinity was on 4.6.1872 in which she is shown as a widow - so 2 children Alice Jane McGinity b 1870; Mary Ann McGinity b 1972 (McGinity also seems to have disappeared )- she then married John MacFie -and had Ethel Ellen b 1880 and John born and died 1882.
Hope you can understand this. Alice married David Alexander Heenan on 9.4.1894 and died 23 June 1936.

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