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JOHN WRIGHT PRESTON (of New South Wales)

Journal by nikkigg

I haven't delved that far as yet, but here goes...

John Wright Preston was transported to Australia from England in 1837 - have info on ticket of leave, etc if anyone interested... He married an Aboriginal woman Mahrahkah (or Molly Walcotte) and had at least one child, Charlotte (1829 - 1871), who married James Hyde 1817 - 1899). They had 9 children, one of whom is William (1860 - 1903), my great great grandfather. He married Mary Anne Ada Hughes (? - 1919) in 1886 and they had at least 5 children, one of whom was Charlotte Katherine Elizabeth Hyde (1884 - 1913). Charlotte married Frederick Burns (? - 1955) and had at least 4 children - Jemima (1911 - 1970) being my Grandmother. She had at least 7 children, with her husband, William John Watson (1900 - 1977). My dad is the youngest of these and is still very much with us...

If you can fill any blanks I'd appreciate it - I do have some additional info, but would like to go back earlier if possible...

Surnames: BURNS HYDE PRESTON WATSON
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on 2009-05-16 23:59:34

nikkigg , from A small town in Queensland, Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since May 2009. is researching the following names: WATSON, PRESTON, HYDE and 1 other(s).

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by shackjan on 2009-08-22 22:47:31

Hi there just checking your info and wondering if you had any info on charlottes other children as my great great grandmother was mary ann hyde and I have been told she was very aboriginal and her mother was charlotte and her mother was walcotte cheers Jan

by gjmunro on 2009-08-25 03:28:26

Hi Jan, my great great great grandmother was Amelia HYDE who was 1 of Charlotte children. Yes she was aboriginal.

by shackjan on 2009-09-01 21:04:04

by shackjan on 2009-09-21 17:59:37

Charlotte had a daughter to james hyde and her name was mary ann and she married my gt gt grandfather george smith.if you have any info,photos etc on molly walcotte or charlotte and their families about where they came from etc I would really appreciate it enormously.cheers jan

by christinalydiard on 2011-05-09 20:28:06

HI there , my name is christina Lydiard. Im trying to research my family history as I was never brought up in my fathers family.What i do know is limited- second hand information from my sister.My sister has told me that we are decendents of the Awabakal tribe, that our relative is indigenous.I have been in contact with some organisations and the only response I have managed to get is what follows:
Convict(Prince of Orange1821) jOHN wRIGHT Preston had a relationship with an awabakal woman named (Mahrahkah). John and Mahrahkah had a daughter names Charlotte(1839) and when baptised her parents names were said to be John and Maria. Charlotte Preston had a relationship with a convict named James Hyde and had at least 10 children. Charlotte died in 1871. ...My grandmothers name is Lyla Joy Frost- it is said to be that the indigenous origin in our family is on my grandmothers side.I believe that one of my Frost ancestors married a decendent of James and Charlotte. Does any one have any information on any FROST marriages or children that married or had children into this family tree, as im trying to reseaarch my family tree and would like to know if Im a decendent of the awabakal tribe.

by christinalydiard on 2011-05-09 20:33:47

Also my sister told me that john married a woman with the name mary mcgee, mcghee, magee( dont know which spelling) and that she became baptised and they changed her name to Maria?...that they had 1 child. Ive been told by my sister that she is our great great great grandmother. I dont know how true this is?....Does anyone know if John and her marriage was a well recorded aboriginal / english marriage.

by Cassywag on 2012-08-23 08:11:13

This information has been taken from the Newcastle Morning herald Sat June9 2012, under the heading of Public Notice Authorisation Heading
Listed in The Awabakal Peoples
-Mahrahkah (known as Molly/ Molly Morgan/ Maria Morgan)
-Charlotte Preston (Daughter of Molly/ Molly morgan/ Maria Morgan)
An application for Charlotte and James Hyde to marry was refused on Eccesiastical grounds. This information is available in James Hyde's convict records. As far as I am aware John preston did not marry Mahrahkah (Molly Morgan) Hope this Helps.

by kathpreece on 2012-10-19 01:28:51

by eliseadh on 2012-11-30 03:53:43

Hey, thanks everyone. I stumbled across this site while searching for John Wright Preston and was gobsmacked at the entries above.

My great grandmother is Annie Jennings (nee Moses) who is a daughter of Susan Hyde and Thomas Moses. My mother, who remembers Annie well is a wealth of info about Annie when my mother was growing up. It was only when we discovered the aboriginal ancestry that my mother was able to put a lot of pieces together.

Please do not rush me for information, as I have been concentrating more on my mother's father's side for the last couple of years, so have lost a bit of touch with her mother's side.

Please contact me by all means, but please don't expect immediate replies. I still work full time and have a lot of data with another side of the family tree to collate and gather (oh....the downside of 'well to do' settlers'!

What I do have is newspaper articles for James Hyde and John Wright Preston if anyone wants them. I haven't gone back on their lineage, so thankyou very much kathpreece, for the extra info on John Wright Preston.

The oldest photo I have is of Sarah Hyde and some of her daughters, but nothing further back than that, but that could be before cameras became available...not sure.

Looking forward to replies, and would dearly love to proceed further with this line.

Elizabeth

by paulholmesy on 2013-11-05 01:00:23

Iam also a grand child of Annie Jennings (nee Moses) who is a daughter of Susan Hyde and Thomas Moses. Annie married William Jennings who lived at Dudley rd charlestown

by paulholmesy on 2013-11-05 18:04:31

I forgot my email [email protected] for all those Susan Hyde Moses people

by opus on 2014-06-11 09:03:11

I am lead to believe that my great grand mother was Mary Hughes from Newcastle N .S .W whom had a daughter Molly Hughes my grand mother and several other children ... I'm not sure if this fits within this geneogram but hoping it does...Molly had three daughters ...two lived with Mary and the third lived with the Johnson family...can you please help me...the men's names that keep coming up are Thomas Hughes and some Man Anderson
thank you Charlene

by opus on 2014-06-11 09:12:02

Sorry I forgot my email if you can help [email protected]

by Ness57 on 2014-07-18 07:15:11

It was so interesting to read all about the Hyde family & the info that people have.
I am also lead to believe I am a descendant of Thomas Hyde & Martha Jane Rodgers who had 8 or 9 children.
This is the info I have so far on the children.
Thomas Hyde
B-1852
D-1894 Wallsend (shot)
M-1881 Wallsend
Martha Jane Rodgers
B-1859
D-1915 Raymond Terrace
Martha Jane Hyde
M-George Bennett
1896 West Maitland.
1 Alfred Thomas Percival Hyde. (known as Percy)
B-1882 Wallsend
D-1950 Newcastle.
2 Albert E V Hyde
B-1883 Wallsend.
3 Martha ARCLM? Hyde
B-1884 Wallsend
D-1885 Wallsend.
My Great Grandfather
4 Cecil Joseph James Hyde
B-1886 Wallsend
D-1967 Newcastle
M-1911 Ida(Ada) E M Sheen
Hamilton
M-1944 Minnie Clair Craig
Redfern.
5 Maud A R Hyde
B-1888 Minmi.
6 George Hyde
B-1890 Wallsend
D-1890 Wallsend.
7 Ivy E Hyde
B-1893 Wallsend
D-1893 Wallsend.
8 Rose Hyde
D-1930 Wallsend???
If anyone knows of some other descendants or info of Thomas & Martha I would love to hear from them.
My email is [email protected]
Thanks to all for the info you have shared, it is much appreciated.

by nicolerenee on 2014-10-16 02:21:32

I am related to Molly Morgan (Mahrahkah) too...this is what I know....

Molly MOrgan and John Preston had one child- Charlotte Preston, who married James Hyde.
They had 7 children, Susan Hyde being the 2nd of 7 children married Thomas Moses. They had 10 children, the 9th being Charlotte Moses, who married William Clarke. They had 1 child, Elizabeth Ann Moses, who married Thomas Rush. They had 13 children, the 2nd being my grandfather Edward George Rush.

Any further information or photographs of this family would be really highly appreciated. Especially information on Mahrahkah.

by Juliejez on 2015-11-11 00:27:20

I am a decendant of Annie Hyde and William Hincks. Annie is my Gx2 grandmother, Charlotte Preston (Hyde) my Gx3 grandmother and Mahrahkah / Molly / Maria my Gx4 grandmother.
I am interested in any and all information on the Hyde's, Preston's and Mahrahkah.

Many thanks!
Julie
[email protected]

by Rogers777 on 2017-12-31 12:50:24

I am Julies cousin - comment above.
Mahrahkah is my Grandmother x4
I also am a descendant of:
Annie Hyde & William Hincks
We all look forward to hearing from you!
Catherine
[email protected]

by Al_Fol on 2019-04-22 10:20:13

Hi there!

I live in the UK and have just joined Family Tree Circles. My mother is Kathleen Preece (mentioned above) which makes me a descendant of the Prestons/Hydes. My mother's hasn't been doing much with the family history over the past few years, so I've now decided to delve into a few chosen areas.

In particular, I'd like to dig deeper into the stories of John Wright Preston & James Hyde (and related families). I'm keen to know more about their lives, and in particular about Mahrahkah - aka Molly Morgan.

FYI, my family line descends from Amelia Hyde (daughter of Charlotte Preston), who married a Foley.

If anyone feels they want to reach out and share any incites about the particular part of the family I'm researching, that would be great. I also have some of my mother's research, so I can check that Mum is happy for me to share that, if you're interested.

Reading one of the comments above was a good reminder of just how much time & effort it takes to collate this info, let alone get it across to someone else succinctly. In fact, it's taken me quite a while just to arrange my mother's paperwork into some semblance of order and wrap my head around it (and I'm still doing so). So I totally understand that you may be a busy bod who hasn't got time to while many hours away at the keyboard sharing this stuff. Hopefully others will understand that I'm a busy gal, too. The spirit is willing and infinite, but human life has its limitations, I'm afraid!

Meantime, I thought I'd share a couple of PDFs which I found online. I still have to finish reading these, but if you're interested, you can download them for yourself at the following addresses. They mention the John Wright Preston, James Hyde and Mahrahkah, offering some interesting background...

SACRIFICE ET SAGESSE: Truth Telling from Eastern Australia, 1788-1842
https://cdn.csu.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/3101199/Awabakal-Eastern-Australia-Truth-telling..pdf

RECOVERING LIVES - 15 CONVICTS IN NSW
https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/bitstream/1885/110682/2/b37328207-Taylor_L_W.pdf

Righto, I'll leave my email address below and see what, if anything, blows in on the next wind.

All the best!

Alannah

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