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on 2012-01-17 05:51:24

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by janilye on 2012-01-17 23:25:47

There were a few
NSW.BD&M
DEATHS from 1800 TO 1930 of Charles RAE in NSW;
V186310938 122C/1863 RAE CHARLES J
9902/1912 RAE CHARLES SEATON CANTERBURY
5494/1881 RAE CHARLES UNKNOWN UNKNOWN BOURKE
6881/1881 RAE CHARLES H F JOHN JANE FORBES
3411/1857 RAE CHARLES ALEXANDER OLIVE MAITLAND
466/1863 RAE CHARLES J JOHN ELIZABETH SYDNEY

MARRIAGES from 1800 to 1930 of Charles RAE in NSW;

2682/1868 RAE CHARLES WRIGHT EMMA JANE FORBES
7858/1895 RAE CHARLES H P L MORRIS MARY A WALLSEND
7858/1895 RAE CHARLES H P L MORRIS MARY A WALLSEND
517/1897 RAE CHARLES FRUDGEN EMMA L ADELONG
9115/1899 RAE CHARLES H P N CLARKE LYDIA R WALLSEND
3240/1888 RAE CHARLES MOORE EVA REDFERN
1042/1921 RAE CHARLES W FENWICK MURIEL NEW LAMBTON
11556/1928 RAE CHARLES A J DANIELS PHYLISS WICKHAM
14625/1929 RAE CHARLES V HICKEY MARY J SYDNEY
14149/1924 RAE CHARLES H A BAINES HENRIETTA C R SYDNEY

by Bathurst on 2012-01-18 01:59:22

Hi Janilye
Thank you very much for your reply. 3240/1888
charles and Eva Rae are my paternal grandparents, Their grave is in Glenmore NSW cemetary.
I am having problems associating Charles and Emma Jane as the parents of Charles
so I may have to make a trip to Sydney bd&m to search.
Again thank you
Tom Rae

by janilye on 2012-01-18 04:48:54

I can understand what you mean, my grandfathe's death certificate gave his mother as Colin Malcolm Eather and Charlotte Lovell when in Fact it was Alfred McAlpin Eather and Theresa Lovelee. The informant was his second wife and her brother!
I have had it since corrected.

Is this the death below you're not sure about?
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Charles Rae
Name: Charles Rae
Death Date: 1940
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Jane
Registration Year: 1940
Registration Place: Camden, New South Wales
Registration number: 8443
nsw.bd&m 8443/1940 RAE CHARLES CHARLES JANE CAMDEN

Here are all the deaths registered for a Charles Rae from 1920 to 1981;

29320/1958 RAE FRANK CHARLES CHARLES MOOREHOUSE PHOEBE NEWTOWN
23933/1962 RAE CHARLES VICTOR CHARLES EILEEN PARRAMATTA
21574/1968 RAE CECIL CHARLES K CHARLES EVA NEWTOWN
8553/1947 RAE CHARLES HENRY P N HENRY HARRIETT WALLSEND
7925/1946 RAE CHARLES SQUAIR JAMES EDITH BANKSTOWN
10050/1941 RAE CHARLES 6O YRS BATHURST BATHURST
11055/1935 RAE CHARLES W WILLIAM ELIZABETH RYDE
23656/1935 RAE CHARLES J G WILLIAM KATHLEEN FORBES
9110/1937 RAE ALBERT CHARLES WILLIAM ELIZABETH NORTH SYDNEY
8443/1940 RAE CHARLES CHARLES JANE CAMDEN *
51277/1972 RAE CHARLES JOSEPH ARTHUR EDWARD G ANNIE NEWTOWN
70741/1972 RAE RONALD CHARLES CHARLES JARDAN MARY BANKSTOWN
22409/1975 RAE DENNIS CHARLES CHARLES EUNICE ALMA
105500/1976 RAE CHARLES WILLIAM CHARLES WILLIAM HENRY NE

16542/1978 RAE CHARLES ANDREW ETHEL MAY:-

Here are all the deaths registered for Eva Rae 1920 to 1981
31216/1957 RAE EVA MAY GEORGE MARY RYDE
10115/1946 RAE EVA GEORGE NOT KNOWN KATOOMBA
19833/1926 RAE EVA 61 YRS CAMDEN ELLEN CAMDEN *
39418/1970 RAE EVA MAY WALTER VALENTINE EMILY ST LEONARDS

Does it give an age at death on the grave?

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Chas Rae Name: Chas Rae
Spouse Name: Eva Moore
Marriage Date: 1888
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1888
Registration number: 3240

I think he and Eva were born in Melbourne.

by Bathurst on 2012-01-18 07:58:41

Confusing isn't it
I have...
Charles Rae
Born 1866? deducting his age (74) from date of death.
Married Eva Moore 1888 Redfern NSW
Death 12/06/1940 Camden NSW
Parents Charles and Jane.(possibly Emma Jane Wright but as yet I have no evidence of this.) they were married in Forbes NSW in 1868.Reg.No.2682.(clutching at straws??)
Eva Rae nee Moore was born in Camden NSW.Reg. No.7564
Her mother was named Ellen. No father is listed.
I will follow your lead that Charles may have been from Victoria.
Again thank you for your assistance. Tom Rae

by janilye on 2012-01-18 09:59:09

The Sydney Morning Herald, Monday 13 December 1926
RAE.-December 12 1026, at Camden District Hospital, Eva, beloved wife of Charles Rae, aged 61 years.
At rest. This ad appeared twice on the same page

The Sydney Morning Herald, Thursday 13 June 1940
RAE-June 12 1940 at Camden District Hospital
Charles Rae of Camden husband of the
late Eva Rae aged 75 years

Below is all I can find in the newspapers on Charles and Emma RAE ( late of Forbes)


The Sydney Morning Herald,Wednesday 4 September 1912
DEATHS
RAE. ?September 2, 1912, at his residence, Glenorie,
Dunsmore-street, Croydon, Charles, dearly loved husband of Emma Rae (late of Forbes), aged 81 years.
At rest.

The Sydney Morning Herald, Tuesday 13 August 1929
IN MEMORIUM
RAE-A tribute of love to the memory of our dear mother Emma Rae who passed away August 13, 1916, also our dear father Charles Rae. who passed away September 2 1912
Sweet remembrance of two of the best
Inserted bv their loving daughter and granddaughter. S and Neil Morrison and son. Sydney Rae.
and this one in 1913
IN MEMORIUM
RAE.-In loving memory of our dear father Charles Rae
who departed this life on September 2, 1912.
Inserted by his daughter and son-in-law, Lily and Sydney Keating.

Below is the funeral of the above charles of Charles and Emma a good reference for names and addresses and even if it is not your Charles' parents it rules one out;

The Sydney Morning Herald,Wednesday 4 September 1912
FUNERAL NOTICE
RAE.-The Friends of the late Mr. CHARLES RAE
are respectfully invited to attend his Funeral; to leave his late residence, Glenorie, Dunsmore-street, Croydon, THIS (Wednesday) MORNING, at 8.30, for the Presbyterian Cemetery, Rookwood, via Croydon Station.)
F. W. HARTLEY. Undertaker,
'Sydney and Suburbs,
JOSEPH FREDERICK COFFILL, Manager.

The Sydney Morning Herald, Monday 14 August 1916
FUNERAL NOTICE
RAE. ? The Friends of Mr. and Mrs. SYDNEY RAE, of
North Sydney, Mrs. D. CHESHER, of Petersham, and Mrs. H. SCOTT, of Petersham, Mr. and Mrs. H. HART, of Bondi, Mrs. MORRISSON, of Croydon, and Mr. and Mrs. S. KEATING, of Balmain, are invited to attend the Funeral of their late beloved MOTHER, Emma Jane Rae ; to leave Glenorie, Dunsmore-street, Croydon Park, THIS DAY, at 1.15 p.m., for Presbyterian Cemetery, Rookwood, via Ashfield station.
F. W. HARTLEY, Undertaker,
'Phone, L1184. 208 King-street, Newtown.

RAE. ? The Friends of Miss A. SLY, of Croydon, and
Miss N. MORRISSON, of Croydon, are invited to attend the
Funeral of their late beloved GRANDMOTHER, Emma Jane Rae ; to leave Glenorie, Dunsmore-street, Croydon Park, THIS DAY, at 1.15 p.m., for Presbyterian Cemetery, Rookwood, via Ashfield station.
F. W. HARTLEY, Undertaker.

I see no mention of your Charles and Eva in any of these notices (wrong straws).

by janilye on 2012-01-18 10:09:57

I found this curious notice which probably has nothing to do with anything. It was just the two names Moore and Rae linked, which gave me reason to pause. Just passing it on to you.
Western Argus (Kalgoorlie, WA : 1916 - 1938) Tuesday 23 March 1926
IN MEMORIUM
Moore. RAE.--In loving memory of Eva May, who departed this life March 22, 1910; also Robert Bruce, who died February 6, .1915. R.I.P.
A tender chord of memory Is gently touched to-day.
--Inserted by their loving mother, sisters and brothers.

by chapmas on 2016-02-05 00:27:22

Dear Tom Rae
I have just come across this website and read your enquiries.

I am a great granddaughter of Charles and Eva Rae by their daughter Alice Maude (married Charles Napier). I have a fair bit of information on the Raes which might answer most of your questions.

1. Charles Seaton Rae was born 1830 in Pitmedden Scotland to Charles and Helen (Forrest). He married Jane Duncan 02/11/1851 in Udny Scotland.
2. They migrated to Melbourne in 1855 on the Gambia. Occupation Blacksmith and Coachbuilder.
3. Charles born 1861 in Melbourne. Family moved to Forbes NSW in 1864
4. Jane Duncan died in childbirth 11/01/1868
So Jane and Charles are our ancestors.
5. Charles Seaton Rae married Mrs. Emma Wright, nee Bradford in June 1868.
6. In 1886 Emma and Charles retired to Sydney where he died 02/09/1912 and she on 13/08/1916, both in Croydon Park.
7. Charles jnr married Eva Moore14/06/1888 in Redfern.

8. Eva's history very interesting. She was the daughter of Ellen Moore (Joseph and Matilda Drake (both children of convicts)). A married National School teacher William Carvasso Wearne was appointed 1/1864 to the new Glenmore school and boarded with Joseph and Matilda, Ellen's parents. He was dismissed 1/1865 on the petition of Joseph Moore. Eva was born 09/1865. Family lore has Wearne as Eva's father. Ellen and Eva stayed within the family on the Camden Glenmore property until Ellen married a Roberts in 1878. There is no mention Of Eva as one of Ellen's children on her obelisk in the Glenmore family cemetery.

Hope all this info is not too late and is of interest. Have lots more and photos and have visited all the Scottish and English ancestral villages and cemeteries.

Stephanie Chapman

by bauple on 2016-09-21 00:19:00

Dear Stephanie Chapman
My apologies for not contacting you sooner .....The dreaded big C..
I wonder if I could contact you after Christmas?. as I will be Visiting friends in Portland
in December.I would really love to learn more of our heritage
My email hirev277@gmail.com.
Tom Rae.

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