NEWTON: I am looking for any information on Arthur John b.1886 and Elizabeth b. 1887, children of Sarah (nee Hook) and Obediah NEWTON of Heacham, Norfolk, England. They descend from my 2xgreat grandmother Elizabeth HOOK (nee JARVIS). <script src="https :: FamilyTreeCircles.com Genealogy
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NEWTON: I am looking for any information on Arthur John b.1886 and Elizabeth b. 1887, children of Sarah (nee Hook) and Obediah NEWTON of Heacham, Norfolk, England. They descend from my 2xgreat grandmother Elizabeth HOOK (nee JARVIS).

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by markav on 2015-05-01 11:41:08

do you have any info on him at all, did he marry

by JanetW on 2015-05-01 12:11:17

I have no info since 1901 census. Their mother Sarah dies 1906.

by asheppard on 2015-05-01 20:54:58

For reference

1901 England Census

Name: Arthur John Newton
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Mother: Sarah Newton
Birth Place: Heacham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Heacham
Ecclesiastical parish: Heacham St Mary
Town: Heacham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Newton 35,head, widow, Beerhouse Keeper, born Wymondham Norfolk
Arthur John Newton 14, son, born Heacham Norfolk
Elizabeth Newton 13, daught, born Heacham Norfolk
Mary Newton 87, Grandmother, born Ringstead Norfolk

by asheppard on 2015-05-01 21:00:06

1891 England Census

Name: Arthur J Newton
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son (Child)
Mother's name: Sarah Newton
Gender: Male
Where born: Heacham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Heacham
County/Island: Norfolk
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Newton 25, head, widow, Beerhouse Keeper, Born Wymonham Norfolk
Arthur J Newton 4, son, born Heacham Norfolk
Elizabeth Newton 3, daug, born Heacham
Mary Newton 78, grand mother, born Ringstead
William Curry 56, border
William Curry 56

by asheppard on 2015-05-01 21:05:25

baptism

Name: Arthur John Newton
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 7 Oct 1886
Baptism Date: 5 Dec 1886
Baptism Place: Heacham, Norfolk, England
Father: Obadiah Newton
Mother: Sarah Newton
FHL Film Number: 1526705
Reference ID: item 1 p 37

Name: Elizabeth Newton
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1887
Baptism Date: 14 Aug 1887
Baptism Place: Heacham, Norfolk, England
Father: Obadiah Newton
Mother: Sarah Newton
FHL Film Number: 1526705
Reference ID: item 2 p 38

by asheppard on 2015-05-01 21:33:42

It looks like Sarah would have been quite safe in 1901 at the Greyhound Inn as her father was listed next on the Census at 1 Rolfes Cottage

Name: Robert Hook
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Susannah Hook
Birth Place: West Acre, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Heacham
Ecclesiastical parish: Heacham St Mary
Town: Heacham
County/Island: Norfolk
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Hook 64, Head,born Westacre, Police pensioner
Susannah Hook 64, wife,born Heacham
John Hook 23, son, born Castleacre, Carpenter
Henrietta Hook 22,daughter in law , Born France-(British subject)


This is interesting Robert in 1911 Census


Name: Robert Hook
Age in 1911: 74
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Westacre, Norfolk
Civil Parish: Heacham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: Grey Hound Inn, High Street, Heacham, Norfolk
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Ex Police Constable Pensioner
Household Members:
Name Age
George Newton 46,Head Beer house Keeper, born Heacham
Emily Newton 45, wife, born Maldon Essex, Married 6yrs no children
Robert Hook 74, Boarder?

by asheppard on 2015-05-01 23:38:39

Do you know any details for Obadiah, his parents etc. Arthur & Elizabeth could have gone to relatives after death of their mother in 1906.


I found Obadiah with his grandparents Mary & John Newton in 1881 Census but nothing before.

1881 England Census
Name: Obadiah Newton
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Heacham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Heacham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Occupation: Wheelwright
Registration district: Docking
Household Members:
Name Age
Obadiah Newton 23
John Newton 66 grandmother
Mary Newton 67 grandfather

I can find John & Mary in 1841 onward on Census, born Heacham

1841 child Susan 2,
1851 children, Susannah 12, William 9, Robert 3, George 11 months
1861 children, William 19, Robert J 14, George 10
1871 no children
1881 with Obadiah
1891 Mary is with Sarah, Arthur and Elizabeth

by asheppard on 2015-05-02 00:03:43

Just found this baptism

Name: Obadiah Minns Newton
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 May 1859
Baptism Place: Heacham Parish, Norfolk, England
Mother: Susannah Newton
FHL Film Number: 1526685
Reference ID: item 5

so Obadiah was Susannah's son, possible father Robert Minns

found them on Census

1861 Census
Robert Minns 50, Head
Charlott Minns 21, daugh
Emily Minns 9, daugh
Susanna Newton 21, servant - housekeeper
Obadia Newton 3, son

1871 Census
Robert Mimes 60, head
Emily Mimes 18, daugh
Obadiah Mimes 13, son
Susan Newton 32, servant - housekeeper

by JanetW on 2015-05-02 07:00:01

Thank you all for the above info. I do have most of this. Robert HOOK, on the death of his wife Elizabeth, married Susannah NEWTON, who I have taken to be Obediah's mother!! What a mix! What I am really looking for is more info on Arthur and Elizabeth after the 1901 census and the death of their mother Sarah in 1906. Are there any descendants out there; it would fill some gaps in my tree. Thanks to anyone who can help on this.

by asheppard on 2015-05-02 20:23:53

Okay,

Robert Hook Policeman is father of Sarah Hook

Susannah Newton is mother of Obadiah Minns Newton housekeeper for Robert Minns who may or may not be Obadiahs father.

Robert & Sussanah married 1878 Marylebone

Name: Robert Hook
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 39
Spouse: Susannah Newton
Spouse Age: 39
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Feb 1878
Parish: St Mary, Bryanston Square
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Hook
Spouse Father: John Newton
Register Type: Parish Register

Robert - 39 widower, lives Castleacre,Norfolk, Police Constable, Father John
Susannah - 39, spinster, lives 79 Seymour Place, father John

Obadiah and Sarah are now step brother & sister.

Do you have a copy of Obadiah's birth register or an original of the baptism?? It would be worth getting those. Also a copy of the marriage for Sarah & Obadiah to check parents listed.

Obadiah with grandparents Mary & John in 1881 Census

This is a possibility for Elizabeth

1911 Census
Name: Bessie Newton
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Heacham, Norfolk
Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: 36 Buckingham Place Brighton
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Attendant
Registration district: Brighton

Occupation: Attendant in Refreshment Rooms

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