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on 2010-08-15 09:36:27

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by JBF911 on 2012-03-04 10:58:16

I am related to many of these people

by JBF911 on 2013-01-16 15:26:39

Hi
I have some information about Arthur Frederick FURNESS (1878-1951)
He is buried in Waikumete Cemetery, Auckland NZ (I dont have grave details)
He married twice - first to Lillian Healy, who had children Roy, Myrtle and Daphne
his second wife was Florence Irene PERCY of Parnell Auckland, NZ
They had three children: Frederick, John Percy (born 17 June 1923, died 21 December 2005) and Alexander James
John married Joan Rona THURSTON (born 1 May 1922, married 9 November 1949, died 26 April 2005). They were both cremated and interred at Purewa Cemetery, Auckland
John & Joan had 3 children. Barbara Joan b 6 Sept 1950, John Brian (me!) b 11 Sept 1953, and Adrienne Janet, b 21 Dec 1954.

by JBF911 on 2013-01-16 15:33:56

I have found many references to Smith FURNESS and other members of his family in New Zealand newspapers refer to www.paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

by JBF911 on 2014-06-18 04:59:17

I always find it interesting to see your new discoveries- thank you.
A few comments in relation to some of the early names in the Furness Tree.

William Furness (Halifax) - his marriage record notes he was a "cordswainer" (a maker of fine shoes). Various of his decendants also later involved in the boot/shoe trade. As far as I can tell it is erroneous to include "Cornswainer" as his second name - it is simply a mis-spelling of his occupation.

His son Smith Furness was not, as far as I can, tell ever known as John or James. Indeed he had a younger brother John. I did discover his baptism record - just plain Smith Furness.

To correct an error of mine in an earlier comment, I have discovered that my grandfather Arthur Frederick Furness had FOUR children by his first wife Lillian (not 3). The 4th child was Violet May - b 1908, married Leslie Charles Russell in 1934. A 43yo Mae Violet Russell died in 1952 which may be her.

by JBF911 on 2014-06-20 01:12:18

I have discovered a 5th son of John Furness (my great grandfather) and Helen/Ellen. Evening Post of 15 Feb 1896 notified the funeral of infant son John EW (Edward William?) Furness - to be buried in Karori. No other details known. The family moved to Auckland shortly thereafter - they lived in Hopetoun St at the time my grandfather Arthur Frederick was married in 1902.

Apparently John & Ellen moved to Australia some time later

by JBF911 on 2014-06-21 19:18:02

Noting the death of Ellen Furness (wife of John Furness) in Auckland in 1928, I now believe that the information in Furness on Peck of Taita - ie that they both moved to New South Wales - is likely to be incorrect.
I note a NZBDM death record of a John Furness in 1929 - needs more investigation.

John Furness had previously (1893) established the Furness Boot Mart trading from 75 Queen St, Auckland. Previously he had operated Boot/Shoe businesses in Wanganui (1880-81) and Wellington (1888-90).

Interesting side note: Ada Furness (daughter of Robert Cole Furness) married Alfred Franklin Holmes who was her "step-cousin". Alfred was the eldest son of John Holmes from his first marriage before he married Mary Woodhouse (nee Furness) who was Ada's aunt.

by ngairedith on 2014-06-21 19:32:07

as above:

New Zealand Herald, 19 December 1928
On December 17 (suddenly), Ellen Louisa, dearly-beloved wife of John Furness, 21 Maidstone Street (Grey Lynn). - For ever with the Lord. (Wellington papers please copy). Funeral 2 p.m. to-day (Wednesday), for Waikumete Cemetery
... The death has occurred of Mrs E. L. Furness, wife of Mr John Furness, land agent, Auckland. Mrs Furness was 74 years of age. She had an intimate knowledge of early Auckland and often recalled the time when the barracks were on the Albert park site in the time of the Maori war, when the gates used to be closed at sundown and sentries posted. Another memory was Fort Britomart with the long flight of steps to the water's edge. She took a keen interest in church and bazaar work, and was well known for her philanthropic efforts. Mrs Furness leaves four sons, Arthur, Bert, Jack and Norman, 12 grandchildren and two great grandchildren.

Auckland Star, 8 January 1938
FURNESS - On January 7, at Sydney, John, beloved father of Arthur, Jack, Norman and the late Albert Furness; aged 81 years. (By cable)

The above journal has been updated recently - PECK of Taita has not yet caught up !

by JBF911 on 2014-06-21 19:36:59

re Arthur Edward Furness (noted as a salesman):
Based on trawl of papers-past, I can report he was a partner with his brother John in the Poneke Boot Mart, Wellington (1888-90) which failed after a major fire and the pair were declared bankrupt. The bankrupcies were discharged in 1891. The Evening Post 14 July 1896 reports the recent burning down of the (insured) boot shop and attached cottage in Ashurst of a Mr Furness - probably Arthur. Arthur and Margaret moved to Palmerston North about 1897, and became very involved in the Cuba St Wesleyan Church. His mother Mary Furness (nee Patterson) lived with them for her last 5 years until her death in 1902. In 1903 they moved to Fielding, and in 1904 set up the Furness Shoe Store in Palmerston North. He filed a patent application for an "instep support device"in 1905. I think he may have been a shoe maker like his brother/grandfather not just a salesman.

by JBF911 on 2014-06-21 19:41:50

re Mary Furness (nee Patterson) wife of Smith Furness.
She died in Palmerston North on 7 July 1902. She is reported to have been living with her youngest son Arthur for her final 5 years. She is buried in the Terrace End Cemetery in Palmerston North, Block 056 plot 035

by JBF911 on 2014-06-21 23:07:31

Comments on headstones included on Peck of Taita site:
One headstone has Robert C(ole) Furness, Sophie (Sophia) and others. Among the "others" is Charles (their son?)

Another headstone has Smith James Furness (d 1921) The "others" are Smith's sister Mary and her second husband John Holmes

by JBF911 on 2014-06-21 23:24:30

Further info about Arthur Edward Furness:
The bankrupcy in 1890 was in association with his brother John (Poneke Boot Mart)

It is probably Arthur who is recorded as having his boot-making premises in Ashurst burn down in July 1896 (Evening Post of 14 July 1896).
Arthur also ran Furness Shoe Store in Palmerston North around 1904-5. (various advertisments in Manawatu Standard etc)

by ngairedith on 2014-06-21 23:37:27

In 1891 he was also the Manager of PEARCE'S Boots & Shoes
Boot Importer and Manufacturer, Opposite Club Hotel, Masterton.

by ngairedith on 2014-06-21 23:39:33
by JBF911 on 2014-06-22 00:43:39

furher to comment above re headstones: Another of the "others" on the Robert Furness headstone is Frederick Kendall, infant son of Edith Kendall (nee Furness), daughter of Robert.

by ngairedith on 2014-06-22 01:29:06

the other is Edith Mary Coate (1921-1921) aged 3 days, infant daughter of Nora Maud Furness & Cecil Theobold Coate
so all those buried in Plot 3C, PUBLIC section at Karori are:

Robert Cole Furness (1848 - 1894)
Sophia Jane Furness (1849 - 1932), nee Bills his wife
Charles Robert Furness (1873 - 1953), their son
Kendall, Frederick Charles (1908 - 1909), their grandson
Edith Mary Coate (1921 - 1921), their granddaughter

HEADSTONE READS:
IN LOVING MEMORY OF
ROBERT C. FURNESS
beloved husband of
SOPHIA
Their beloved son
CHARLES
and their grand children
FREDERICK G. KENDALL
EDITH MARY COATE
AT REST

by JBF911 on 2014-06-22 02:21:48

Re John Furness dob 1853. The marriage record names his wife as Eleanor Louisa Grey. There is no NZBDM birth record by this name (or Gray).
The birth records of their children name her as Helen for the first 3 and Ellen for the 4th.

by ngairedith on 2014-06-22 02:32:03

her name was Eleanor Louisa (known as Ellen) Grey
New Zealand Herald, 19 December 1928 - On December 17 (suddenly), Ellen Louisa, dearly-beloved wife of John Furness, 21 Maidstone Street (Grey Lynn, Auckland) - For ever with the Lord. (Wellington papers please copy). Funeral 2 p.m. to-day (Wednesday), for Waikumete Cemetery
... The death has occurred of Mrs E. L. Furness, wife of Mr John Furness, land agent, Auckland. Mrs Furness was 74 years of age. She had an intimate knowledge of early Auckland and often recalled the time when the barracks were on the Albert park site in the time of the Maori war, when the gates used to be closed at sundown and sentries posted. Another memory was Fort Britomart with the long flight of steps to the water's edge. She took a keen interest in church and bazaar work, and was well known for her philanthropic efforts. Mrs Furness leaves four sons, Arthur, Bert, Jack and Norman, 12 grandchildren and two great grandchildren.
Ellen is buried WESLEY DIVISION C Row 4, Plot 13A at Waikumete, Auckland

by JBF911 on 2014-06-24 01:39:00

A little more on Albert George Furness.
The Marlborough Express 21 Aug 1895 reports the death of Minnie, wife of AGF aged 32 at Moonee Ponds, Melbourne.

Being owned by SJ Furness, the Marlb Express reports deaths of remote Furness relatives

Arthur Edward cont... After the tragic death of his dauhghter Miriam in 1916, the family moved back to Wellington area. Electoral Rolls show them living at various Lower Hutt & Petone addresses up to 1946. In 1949 E/Roll Margaret (wife) and Howard (son) are listed in Auckland, but AEF is absent.

by tonkin on 2014-06-24 03:31:19

This appears to be the Birth, Marriage and Death for Minnie, wife of Albert George FURNESS.

BIRTH.

Name: Amelia Mahalah GRANDIN.
Born: 1868 Emerald Hill, Victoria.
Father: Andrew GRANDIN.
Mother: Amelia Jane BATES.
Ref: VBI Reg #9184.

MARRIAGE.

Groom: Albert George FURNESS.
Birth place: Wellington, New Zealand.

Bride: Amelia Mahala GRANDIN.
Birth place: South Melbourne.

Year married: 1894.
Place: Victoria, Australia.
Ref: VMI Reg #3951.

DEATH.

Name: Amelia FURNESS.
Died: 1895 Essendon, Victoria.
Age: 27 years.
Father: Andrew GRANDIN.
Mother: Amelia Jane BATES.
Ref: VDI Reg #9153.

Age and place of death for Amelia (or Minnie) appearing in the Marlborough Express does not tally with the Victorian Death Register. It just goes to show how two different sources can confuse people, and why family trees sometimes contain the wrong information.

Hope this helps.

by tonkin on 2014-06-24 04:10:33

Second Marriage and Death for Albert George FURNESS.

MARRIAGE.

Groom: Albert George FURNESS.
Birth place: New Zealand.

Bride: Emma GEORGE.
Birth place: AV. (Ascot Vale)

Year married: 1899.
Place: Victoria, Australia.
Ref: VMI Reg #6681.

DEATH.

Name: Albert George FURNESS.
Died: 1945 Blackburn, Victoria.
Age: 81 years.
Father: Smith FURNESS.
Mother: Mary PATTERSON.
Ref: VDI Reg #928.

Every little bit helps.

by tonkin on 2014-06-24 04:41:36

Birth and Death for Emma GEORGE, Albert's second wife.

BIRTH.

Name: Emma GEORGE.
Born: 1871 Flemington, Victoria.
Father: Thomas GEORGE.
Mother: Mary PAUL.
Ref: VBI Reg #23246.

Note.
Emma's mother was recorded wrong and should have been Mary Paul LARCOMBE.
Index or informant error.

DEATH.

Name: Emma FURNESS.
Died: 1955 Caulfield, Victoria.
Age: 83 years.
Father: Thomas GEORGE.
Mother: Mary Paul LARCOMBE.
Ref: VDI Reg #4945.

Cheers.

by ngairedith on 2014-06-24 05:30:05

that's awesome Tonkin, thank you very much

by rose8 on 2014-08-17 23:54:25

HI My Grand mother, Enith Mary Hardy, I believe her birth name was Elsie Ellen Furness born 1st November 1894 at Mingelo near Peak Hill Her mother was Ellen Furner also born at Mingelo near Peak Hill. Enith was given/taken in by the hardy's at age 4.Does any one have any information about her Please. Mum died 2 years ago and that is when I found out Enith was of Aboriginal decent. Thanks you for any help. Regards June turner

by JBF911 on 2015-04-16 18:09:20

To complete a small detail under Arthur Frederick Furness.

Frederick George Furness eldest son of Arthur Frederick and Florence Irene Furness is buried in Thames (died 1993)

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