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Family of Tom Thomas & Mary Diana Jones, Wales, UK
THOMAS (TWM) THOMAS was born in 1885 to Daniel Thomas and Maria Thomas [Williams]. Thomas died on 17 August 1965, aged about 80, and is burried in a cemetery near Gwaun Cae Gurwen, Neath Port Talbot, Wales, United Kingdom, but not sure what it's called.
MARY DIANA THOMAS [JONES] was born about 1884, parents unknown, but some family members think Mary Diana's maiden name was Jones. Mary died on 15 December 1967, aged about 83, and is burried together with her husband in a cemetery near Gwaun Cae Gurwen, Neath Port Talbot, Wales, United Kingdom, but not sure what it's called.
I don't know when Thomas (Twm) Thomas married Mary Diana Thomas [Jones]. They had three children:
John Eirwyn Thomas in 1908
Ivy Iona Pritchard [Thomas] in 1912
Daniel Islwyn Thomas in 1914
More information about this family, and maybe even picture(s) would be appreciated. Please note that information in this post might be inaccurate.
The photo shows their tombstone, with "Bu Got Annwyl Am Tom Thomas (Blaengarnant.) Bu Farw Ebrill 17, 1965 yn 80 Mlwydd Oed" inscripted on the left side, and "Hefyd Mary Diana, El Briod Bu Farw Rhagfyr 15, 1967 yn 83 Mlwydd Oed" on the right side.
Historic Picture Caused Debates - South Wales Guardian of 5th January 1967
Part of the text might be inaccurate as the source is badly faded and partly illegible from wear.
Transcripted text:
?Historic picture caused debates?
Controversy has been aroused in the Cwngors and Gwaun-cae-Gurwen area after the publication last week of the photo of the Cwmgors collery team which won the Sir Alfred Mond cup in season 1925-26.
They were fore-runners of the present Cwmgors R.F.C. formed in the 1927-28 season.
Mr. Dan Griffiths, of High-street, Cwmgors, named them all. For its interest value, the picture is reproduced again.
Back-row: John (Meth) Jones, Charles Richards (treasurer), David Bowen, Stanley Jones, Tommy George, Morgan A. Lewis, D.R. Evans, Tom M. (Gwen) Jones and Tom Pritchard.
Second row: David ? (unclear text)?, David Tom Jones, Trevor Arnold, Rhys Davies, Johnny Davies, Claude Davey, Handel John, Will Arnold and Morgan Timothy (first-aid).
Seated: Ewart Jones, Ben R. (Meth) Jones, Philip George, Morgan Jones (manager Cwmgors Collery), Will Davies (capt), D.P. Rees (group cashier and president), Tom (Meth) Jones, David Pritchard, M? (Meth) Jones, Will (Gwen) Jones and Dan Evans.
Records
Skipper Will Davies, who later played for Swansea was ?capped? against South Africa in 1931, and England, Scotland and Ireland in 1932.
He has two brothers Rhys and Johnny Davies behind him in the photograph.
John ?. (unclear text)
The three Arnold brothers are D.H. Trevor and Will Arnold.
J.M. Jones and Ewart Jones are brothers as are Tom M. (Gwen) Jones and Will (Gwen) Jones and Tommy and Phillip George.
D.R. Evans and Dan Evans are also brothers, while Tom Pritchard was the father of David Pritchard, who has been chairman of Cwmgors R.F.C for 38 years.
Claude Davey, who later played for Swansea, was ?capped? 23 times for Wales.
Everyone in the photograph lived in the village of Cwmgors, except D.P. Rees, president, who lived at G.C.G.
Of the 13 members of the committee and ?. (unclear text) only ?( unclear text)? Tommy George.
All members of the team are still alive.
Original source
Wanted: Better copy of this article is wanted.
Information wanted: Houses in Godrergraig, Wales, UK
My husband's great grandfather, Stanley George Stoneman, lived in Tawelfan, Owen's Lane, Godrergraig, Llanguicke, Pontardawe, West Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom accourding to 2 Apr 1911 Wales Census. So did his father John William Stoneman, with his second wife Amy Stoneman (Adams).
Stanley married Elizabeth Ann Jenkins 15 Apr 1911, and all their 8 children was born in Gate Terrace, Godrergraig, Llanguicke, Pontardawe, West Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom.
I want to know more about Tawelfan, Owen's Lane and Gate Terrace, and if anyone could provide med with photos that would be a big bonus.
Information wanted: Rhys (or Rees) Terrace, Gors Street (Heol-Y-Gors), Cwmgors
I'm looking for any information about Rhys (or Rees) Terrace, Gors Street (Heol-Y-Gors), Cwmgors, Wales, UK. Rhys Terrace and Rees Terrace might be 2 different properties, in which case I'm mostly interested in the Rees Terrace.
Thomas Pritchard and his family lived there in 1911, and I want to know more about the property and the history of the property.
Picture(s) would be nice to have as well.
Mystery of Stanley George Stoneman
STANLEY GEORGE STONEMAN (my husband's great-grandfather) was born on 22 June 1891, in 29 Dehli Street , Kings Kross, Islington, London, England, United Kingdom, to John William Stoneman and Eva Annie Stoneman [Lawrence].
I assume he was baptised as his 3 younger siblings was, but haven't been able to find any record of that. Would be nice if anyone could find that record for me, or let me know where to find it (I use ancestry.co.uk for a lot of my research).
On 1 October 1894, aged 3, he was admittet to Holy Trinity With St Paul's Infant School, in Westminster, London. At this time the family lived in 11 Harboro Street, London, England, United Kingdom.
On 28 August 1899, aged 8, he was admittet to Kenmont Gardens School , Hammersmith and Fulham, London. At this time the family lived in 23 College PK Yer, London, England, United Kingdom.
He was recorded in the 1901 England Census, aged about 10, in 23 College PK Yer, Hammersmith, London, England, United Kingdom, together with his parents and 3 younger siblings; Ethel Rosamond (7 Oct 1893), Arthur John (Jul 1895) and Harold William (27 Jun 1899).
I pretty sure it is Stanley George recorded in the census on 2 April 1911, aged 19, living in Tawelfan, Godrergraig, Llangiwg, Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom, together with his father John William Stoneman, his father?s new wife, Amy, younger brother Harold, half-sister Queenie and step-brother Harold Jones. At this time Stanley George was a coal miner/hewer.
On 15 April 1911, aged 19, he married Elizabeth Ann Jenkins in the registrar office in Pontardawe. On the marriage certificate it says he lived in Tawelfan, Owen's Lane, Godrergraig, Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom. Stanley George and Elizabeth Ann had 8 children:
Clarice Elizabeth in 1912
Daniel John in 1913
Arthur Robert in 1915
Lewis Samuel in 1917
Hannah Beryl in 1919
Annie Davies in 1921
Ronald in 1924 (stillborn)
Stanley in 1926 (lived only 1 day)
In 1913 when his son Daniel John was born, Stanley George was a behinder in tinplate works according to Daniel John?s birth certificate. When Daniel John married, on 28 August 1937, Stanley George, now aged 46, was recorded as a builder/carpenter on Daniel John?s marriage certificate.
The Stanley George Mystery:
Stanley George left his family behind in late 1930?s to unknown reason(s). He didn?t divorce his wife, as he is recorded as her husband on the death certificate of Elizabeth Ann (1949). He moved to London, but I don?t know where in London he lived or what he was doing there. One of his sons visited him (I believe around Elizabeth Ann?s death) in London. Rumor has it that Stanley George lived with a woman at the time. Nobody in the family has had any contact with Stanley George since then apparently.
Someone in the family believe he changed his name at some point, but nobody knows to what. And apparently he moved back to Wales at some point, living in Swansea at the time of his death, which is believed to be around 1960.
I would love to know what really happened to Stanley George, and get this mystery behind us. If anyone can provide me with any clue or even better, true facts about his last living years, I would be more than grateful.
Sources:
* Certified copy of Birth Stanley George Stoneman
* School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 - Westminster - Holy Trinity With St Paul?s School
* School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 - Hammersmith and Fulham - Kenmont Gardens School
* 1901 England Census, Islington, London
* 1911 Wales Census, Glamorgan
* 1911 - Certified Copy of Marriage Stanley George Stoneman & Elizabeth Ann Jenkins
* 1913 - Certified Copy of Birth Daniel John Stoneman
* 1937 - Certified Copy of Marriage Daniel John Stoneman & Maggie Anthony
* 1949 - Certified Copy of Death Elizabeth Ann Stoneman
Oxwich Castle, Gower Peninsula, Wales, United Kingdom
Oxwich Castle occupies a position on a wooded headland overlooking Oxwich Bay on the Gower Peninsula, Wales, United Kingdom (Google view).
Transcripted text from the plate by Oxwish Castle:
Oxwich Castle was built in the sixteenth century, probably on the site of an earlier building. It was erected by the Mansel family, who occupied a leading position among the Tudor gentry of Glamorgan.
With its courtyard plan and semi-fortified design, including this impressive, mock-military gateway, Oxwich recalls several other manor houses in south Wales designed for a powerful gentry class whose life-style resembled that of earlier feudal magnates.
Oxwich castle comprises two adjacent ranges of buildings. The smaller south range to your left is the earlier, built by Sir Rice Mansel (whose initials appear on the decorative plaque over the outer gateway). On an altogether larger scale, the east range behind you is the roof less shell of a "great house", probably built by Sir Rice's son, Sir Edward Mansel.
Sir Rice Mansel
Welsh Biography Online - Mansel Family
I took some pictures at this site in 2008, if anyone is interested in a copy.
Resources for researching the Pritchard family
Surname definition: See Family Crest below.
Surname origin: Medieval Welsh origin.
Derivation: Patronymic of the male given name Richard, formed from a fusion of the Welsh suffix 'ap' meaning 'son of' and the First name Richard.
Alternate surname spellings: Richardson Richards Prichard
Other Resources:
Pritchard Family Crest and Name Origin
The Pritchard Family History
Pritchard Family Genealogy Forum
GENUKI - UK and Ireland Genealogy
Help wanted:
Please let me know if you have any links to resources when it comes to researching the Pritchard family name.
Transcript from "South Wales Evening Post 20 Dec 1965 - Landslide flattens house"
The following text is a transcript from a "South Wales Evening Post 20 Dec 1965" clip-out that my mother-in-law Elizabeth Marlene Stoneman had at her home. Mr. Lewis Jenkins mentioned in the article below was a younger brother of Elizabeth Ann Stoneman [Jenkins]. The incident happened the day before it was mentioned in the newspaper.
LANDSLIDE FLATTENS HOUSE
Family of five persuaded to leave only a couple of hours earlier
ROAD GETS BLOCKED BY DEBRIS
A FAMILY of five at Godre'rgraig, Swansea Valley, fled from their home only a couple of hours before it was crushed by a landslide.
The debris blocked the Ynysmeudwy-Ystalyfera road and a lorry was buried in the fall.
The house at Graig-road, Godre'rgraig, was the home of Mr. Lewis Jenkins, aged 65, his wife, son Peter, his wife and a five-year-old daughter.
They were persuaded to leave their house because of landslide fears. They were taking their everyday belongings outside when the house collapsed.
House shook
The family stayed the night with Mr. and Mrs. Jenkins's daughter and son-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. W. T. Bevan, at Cwmllynfell.
The scene was described to an Evening Post reporter by an eye witness, Mr. H. Wynne Jones, a public health inspector of Pontardawe Rural Conceil.
"The whole building started shaking, lights flickered and dust came from it and then it all crumbled on to the road followed by the mountain. I have never seen anything like it in all my life" said Mr. Jones.
Several electricity cables were brought down by the landslide. A pylon carrying a cable of 11,000 volts was in danger of collapsing and police officers guarded either side of the blocked road to prevent people from walking there.
The scene is about 150 yards from the part of the road which is known as the Godre'rgraig landslip area where the mountain has been moving for several years and has caused a by-pass road to be constructed in the bed of the Valley.
Over the weekend at a point about half-a-mile south of the house collapse, householders were alarmed by a movement of the same mountain.
Eight houses in Tareni-terrace in Graig-road were affected as well as a house occupied by Mr. and Mrs Tom Ford.
They felt a "crunch" against the backs of the houses and found that the mountain behind had moved on to the out-buildings. There were deep fissures in the side of the mountain.
Although they are owner-occupiers, most of them informed officers of Ponterdawe Rural Council that they wished to be found other accommodation.
Mr. Griffiths' visit
The Secretary of State for Wales, Mr. James Griffiths, MP arranged to visit a number of the flood-damaged areas in South Wales this afternoon.
He met this morning in Cardiff, Mr. Richard John, clerk to Glamorgan County Councill, who gave him an assessment of how the emergency service operated over the weekend.
Mr. Griffiths visited at lunch time today a partly washed away bridge which cut off the village of Abercanaid, near Merthyr.
Later he was visiting Merthyr Borough Counciel offices, for discussions with officials, then the Neath Valley where a landslip is expected to block the main road for a week, followed by a visit to the offices of Rhondda Urban District council offices in Pentre.
(Landslide fears - see page five).
Picture 1 text:
MRS. P. MAY, of Graig-road, Godre'rgraig, and her son and daughter look down to the landslide which completely blocked the road to Ystalyfera. They slept last night within 50 yards of the affected area.
Picture 2 text:
...UR PICTURE SHOWS the main road between Godre'rgraig and Ystalyfera after yesterday's landslide, which covered a house and a lorry. No one was hurt.
