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Alfred William CANTRILL + Elizabeth Florence TERRILL - Thames, Waikato

Journal by ngairedith

Alfred William CANTRILL (1861-1918) &
Elizabeth Florence TERRILL (1865-1934)
were married 25 Jan 1887, Madras St., central Christchurch

their children were:
... 1
1887 - 1888 Florence Eleanor Cantrill
- Florence died aged 5 months

... 2
1888 - 1918 Alfred John Cantrill
- Alfred died aged 57

... 3
1890 - 1890 Arthur William Cantrill
- Arthur died aged 2 months

... 4
1892 - 1892 Lida Gertrude Cantrill
- Lida died aged 7 months

... 5
1893 - 1893 Dora Cantrill
- Dora died aged 4 months

... 6
1896 - 1896 Joseph Cantrill
- Joseph died aged 3 weeks

... 7
1897 - 1898 John Phillip Cantrill
- John died 24 Feb 1898 aged 6 months
- he is buried with sister Annie
- PLOT 2581 - PUBL at Shortland cemetery, Thames

... 8
1898 - 1951 John Robert Willoughby Terrill Cantrill
- married Henrietta Elsie ?
- John died aged 52

... 9
1900 - Myrtle Cantrill
- Myrtle married Richard George Firth COCKROFT in 1922

... 10
1901 - 1941 Alfred Joseph Cantrill
- in 1917 Alfred and his mate Cecil Strange wnet missing (see timeline below)
- Corporal 23919 with the 24th Infantry Battalion WWII
- died at sea 9 December 1941 on the POW ship JANTZEN
... On the 8 December 1941, the 8000 ton Italian ship Jason (also known as the Jantzen) left Benghazi for Italy with 2100 Prisoners of War from the North African campaign. On the 9 December the Jason was struck by a torpedo from the British submarine Porpoise - around 500 prisoners were killed including 45 New Zealanders
- Alfred's memorial at Column 101 - El Alamein, Matruh, Egypt

... 11
1902 - 1903 Thomas Terrill Cantrill
- Thomas died aged 15 months
- he is buried in LOT 141 - BLOCK B at WAIHI Public Cemetery

... 12
1903 - Sarah Cantrill
- Sarah married Thomas MITCHELL in 1923

... 13
1905 - 1990 Ivy Cantrill
- born in Thames, Coromandel
- Ivy had a base born son in 1925. He was named James Gordon Cantrill & was adopted at the age of 15 months by George Henry (1881-1940) & Mabel (nee Jackson 1882-1969) Hadfield of Grey Lynn, Auckland. James died in Brisbane in 2010 aged 85
- Ivy had a base born daughter on 26 Aug 1927. She was named Florence 'Merle' Cantrill and was possibly adopted by Ivy's husband William Scott. Not yet known if she had the same father as James. Florence married Clarence Robert Athol STEPHENS (17 Nov 1924-14 April 2004)
- Ivy married William Ernest Walter Felix SCOTT in 1930
- in 1931 (at least), they were living in Richmond Block, Napier (in March 1928 the Harbour Board released three blocks: AWATOTO 540 acres; RICHMOND, 300 acres and McDONALD 540 acres) for rural settlement)
- they had 2 children: Marie & Lawrence Scott
- Ivy & William later divorced & she may have remarried
IVY CANTRILL died 30 June 1990 aged 85

... 14
1906 - 1906 Annie Cantrill
- Annie died 20 Oct 1906 aged 5 months
- she is buried with brother John Phillip
- PLOT 2581 - PUBL at Shortland cemetery, Thames

12 January 1899 DEATH
... TERRILL, On January 11th, at the granddaughter's residence (Mrs A. Cantrill) Davy street, Thames, Jane Terrill, aged 78 years .. (another reads Kirkwood street). Jane Terrill was born in Redruth, Cornwall about 1820. She is buried PUBL-PLOT-2581, Shortland cemetery, Thames with John Richard Terrill who was born 2 March 1844 also in Redruth, Cornwall & died 1 Oct 1907

... Vice-President: R. W. Wilson and A. Cantrill

2 March 1914 - LOST at THAMES
... On February 20th, Gold Guard (Kruger sovereign attached). ?1 reward - A. Cantrill, Irishtown

19 December 1916 - CENTRAL SCHOOL, THAMES
The following is the prize list:-
not missed more than five half-days during the year:
... Standard Two:-
* Alan Brodie
* Ronnie Cameron
* Percy Dennerly
* Jack Wilton
* Ivy Cantrill
* Gwen Grant
* Edna Urwin
* Doris Wilkinson

... Swimming Sports - Girls events:-
RELAY RACE - Standard 6
* W. Grubb
* B. Baker
* J. McKinnon
* C. Houghton
* S. Cantrill - 1 (Sarah)

22 August 1917 - THAMES
... Two boys left the Thames on a pig hunting trip on Saturday, intending to return on Sunday, but have not yet returned. Their absence is causing considerable anxiety, and search parties have been out for the last two days. The missing lads, Cecil Strange and Alfred Cantrill, are 17 and 16 years of age respectively
... Two boys, named Strange and Cantrill, were brought home again after spending a night in the scrub. It appears that they lost the track and became "bushed", the thick scrub tearing their clothes and flesh. Finally they reached a settlement where they obtained food and rest. They had been without food for about thirty hours. The first search party from Thames brought them back

3 August 1918 - THANKS
... Mrs CANTRILL and Family desire to thank Dr. Walshe, the Matron, and Nurses of the Thames Hospital for their untiring attention to the late Mr A. W. Cantrill while under their care; also the Thames Old Boys' Association for their kind assistance and sympathy

27 September 1918 - THAMES OLD BOYS
... In the annual report of the Thames Old Boys' Association regret was expressed at the death of Brothers:
* T. Jackson (Thomas, aged 72)
* A. Hanlon
* A. Cantrill
* J. O'Brien
all highly esteemed members, whose death was a great loss to the Association

29 March 1920 - EDWIN FORD's DEATH
... EVIDENCE AT INQUEST - An inquest was held this morning at the Courtouse before Mr W. H. Lucas, J.P., into the circumstances surrounding the death of Edwin Ford whose body was found yesterday
... Sarah Cantrill, aged 17, living in Waiokaraka Road, stated that yesterday she and her sister went out to search for deceased up towards the Waiotahi ridge among the ti-trees. After an hour and a half witness and her sister found the body in the scrub in a little gully at the head of the Collarbone Creek

20 May 1943 - ROLL OF HONOUR
... CANTRILL, Alfred J., CORPORAL. Mrs Vera Cantrill (wife), 15 Day street, Newton, Auckland. Vera died 26 May 1983 aged 88 and is buried in Purewa, Auckland

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by francroc on 2012-08-30 04:21:38

Thank you for this interesting and informative journal. Elizabeth Terrill was my Great Aunt and I am trying to find out information on her mother Phillipa Terrill who was at the Napier Hotel for some years. Elizabeth and her mother signed the Suffragette petition. Thanks again. Fran Crocker

by ngairedith on 2014-04-01 06:03:55

thank you to cassan for her message:

Subject: RE: Terrill's and Cantrill's
To: ngairedith
From: cassan
Date: 2014-04-01 04:37:09

I have located some information on Phillipa Jane Terrill (born Austin). She was born in 1842 in Breage, Cornwall the daughter of William and Ann Austin. William was a Mine Manager, according to the 1851 Census which has them living in St Pinnock in Cornwall. Phillipa married John Richard Willoughby Terrill in the third quarter of 1862 in Truo in Cornwall before she, John and John's mother Jane Terrill (born Willoughby) left on-board the Chrysolite in August of 1865.They landed in Lyttelton in November of 1862. At some stage they worked in the mines in both South Australia and in Victoria as Florence Elizabeth (Ivy's mother) was born in Kapunda, South Australia and I have located a death record for another daughter who died in Victoria. They were resident in Christchurch when Florence Elizabeth married Alfred William Cantrill on 25th January 1887 - as the marriage took place in their home on Madras Street. John Terrill lists his occupation as musician and Papers Past has several references to a bandmaster in Christchurch at the time who is named as being John Terrill - I have yet to prove they are one and the same but I think they will be. By 7th March of 1890 Phillipa Jane is living in Napier and running a successful and profitable Boarding House on Hastings Street, Napier. We know this because Phillipa Jane set legal precedent in New Zealand when she successfully retained her property after her husband John, abandoned her and went to live in Ashburton. This was one of first successful defences under legislation brought in under the married womans property act. this link details the story and shows the document Protecting married women's property.

Sadly, she died not too many years later on 2nd January 1893 of peritonitis.

by ngairedith on 2014-04-01 06:22:36

added here for interest
from the Nelson Examiner and New Zealand Chronicle, 30 March 1861
Married Women's Property Protection Act, 1860

by francroc on 2014-06-26 01:13:05

Thank you for the above information. In the two years since first posting my request I have found some of these facts also and will add here a couple of other interesting notes. The first is found in the Salvation Army War Cry of 28 June 1890, and reads:
"AUSTIN, Wm., Rich., Thos., or Jos.: If anyone knows the whereabouts of either of these 4 br please let them know that their sis Phillipa wishes them to write to her. Address: Mrs Phillipa TERRILL, Napier Hotel, Napier."

I will copy and paste in here an Obituary Notice for Phillipa's husband (did they divorce?) John Richard Willoughby Terrill which my parents had from a newspaper, but didn't record which paper it came from and I can't find it in Papers Past. You will also see that they spelt the surname wrong - Tyrrell, rather than Terrill.

"Bandsmen in New Zealand will learn with regret of the death of Mr J. R. W. Tyrrell, which took place at the Thames Hospital on Monday last. The deceased gentleman, who was 63 years of age at the time of his death, was one of New Zealand?s oldest and most brilliant musicians, and his death will be deplored by bandsmen throughout the Dominion.
He was a native of Cornwall and arrived in New Zealand some 45 years ago. During his residence in Christchurch he conducted the Garrison Band for a number of years, and also the Christchurch Hibernian, Port Lyttelton, and Papanui bands. Besides being a first-class conductor, the late Mr Tyrrell was a splendid instrumentalist, having mastered the cornet, saxophone, bassoon, organ and piano, and was known from one end of the country to the other.

A few years later he joined an opera troupe and traveled through Australia playing in the orchestra. He gave that up and settled in Ballarat and was appointed conductor of a band there. When leaving Ballarat, he was presented with a magnificent baton. From Ballarat he went to Victoria and conducted the Clunes Garrison Band, and when leaving there he was presented with a bandmaster?s belt and pouch with silver chain and whistle attached.

He was also a composer of music, and many bands and bandmen in New Zealand at the present time have some of the pieces he has written and presented to them. He had been ailing for the past twelve months but kept on teaching to the last, thereby dying in harness.

Some years ago he had the misfortune to lose the middle finger of the right hand, and it was thought he would not be able to play the piano again. But his great love for music came to his aid, and he made a cork finger which enabled him to play as well as he did before losing it.

The late Mr Tyrrell leaves a grown-up family to mourn their loss, the male portion of which have followed in the father?s footsteps and became first-class intrumentalists.
The family, who are scattered about the Island, are:
Arthur Tyrrell, Taihape; Joe Tyrrell, Bulla; Tom Tyrrell, Thames; Jack Tyrrell, Thames; Dick Tyrrell, Palmerston North; Mrs Cantrall, Thames; Mrs W Smith, Palmerston North; Mrs Raffles, Dunedin. and Mrs Hodge, Dunedin.
On behalf of the bandsmen in the Dominion we extend to the sorrowing relatives the deepest sympathy with them in their sad bereavement."

by ngairedith on 2014-06-26 05:45:56

hi francroc,
great find

see comment #2 re your query: John Richard Willoughby Terril, Phillipa's husband (did they divorce?)
... By 7th March of 1890 Phillipa Jane is living in Napier and running a successful and profitable Boarding House on Hastings Street, Napier. We know this because Phillipa Jane set legal precedent in New Zealand when she successfully retained her property after her husband John, abandoned her and went to live in Ashburton ...

by francroc on 2014-07-01 06:51:10

As you know in the Shortland Cemetery in Thames the two young Cantrill children John Phillip (d.1898) and Annie (d. 1906) are buried in Public Lawn Division, Plot 258 - also buried in the same plot are their GGrandmother Jane Terrill (d. 11.1.1899) and their Grandfather John Richard Terrill (d. 2.10.1907).
I visited there a couple of years ago, but it is quite overgrown, and was told that headstones weren't put on public plots. This plot seems to have been first used for baby Fanny Glendinning in 1870, and then bought by the family 18 yrs later.

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